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Speaker 3: I am your winning up.

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Speaker 1: Played for the Denver Broncos into Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 3: My team won today. That is my partner in co hosts.

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Speaker 1: His team did not win today or the day before

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Speaker 3: But nevertheless, here we are. You're feeling good. You're feeling good.

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Speaker 3: Huh jut, y'all love it with a plan? Come together?

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Speaker 3: Forty two points, won't yoe? Forty two?

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Speaker 4: Wait minute, I told you that was a problem. I

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Speaker 4: mean I explained that the problem.

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Speaker 1: You played for the Bengals. That's the problem. The only

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Speaker 4: Hold on, wait a minute, like, calm down, come that listen.

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Speaker 4: We when I played, we had a decent defense. We

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Speaker 3: And we scored the pack offense too.

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Speaker 4: No, no, off no, no, no, don't do that. That

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Speaker 4: two thousand and five, that two thousand and five seasons, we

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Speaker 3: Don't do that. Oh Joe, you played elevel years. Did

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Speaker 3: you pick out one year?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all that mattered you. You play, you played

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Speaker 4: fourteen years.

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Speaker 3: You only what you I did.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you had you had maybe as a team, and

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Speaker 4: y'all had maybe three good years.

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Speaker 1: That was it.

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Speaker 1: Let's see ninety one, ninety three, ninety six, ninety seven,

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Speaker 1: ninety eight, O two. Then I went two years ago.

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Speaker 1: I went to play out about seven eight times. Okay, okay, listen, listen.

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Speaker 4: The dealer gave you a good deck. Wait, let me

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Speaker 4: You did the most for the deck.

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Speaker 3: That link is pinned into the chat. The game that

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Speaker 1: The Seahawks beat the breaks Other Commanders by the score

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Speaker 1: of thirty eight to fourteen. Sam Darnold with damn near

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Speaker 4: C oh yeah, absolutely, absolutely, with the way he's with

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Speaker 3: You know, you.

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Speaker 4: Notice all the players, all the players that came on

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Speaker 4: you notice they having one hell of a season.

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Speaker 3: They got damn Jessen cut up the day.

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Speaker 4: He ate for one to twenty nine, six consecutive games

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Speaker 1: If this game would have been close, yeah, oh he

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: The Seahawks moved to six and two, Washington balls to

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Speaker 1: But I got one question that I want to ask

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Speaker 1: Daniels in the game. You're down thirty eight to seven.

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Speaker 1: This is why you remove your starter, especially you can't

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Speaker 1: you actually think you're gonna score thirty one points.

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Speaker 3: In eight and a half minutes. Absolutely, that was not

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Speaker 3: a That was not a hip drop tackle.

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Speaker 1: He was getting fun down and he tried to brace himself,

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Speaker 1: remember the Heat Celtics game, Rondo tried to brace himself

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Speaker 1: Just because someone gets injured, that doesn't mean the play

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Speaker 1: was illegal. That was not a hip drop tackle. But

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Speaker 1: I just got one question. I just need to know

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Speaker 1: why in the hell was he in the game? Down

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Speaker 1: thirty one with eight minutes to go in the ball game.

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Speaker 1: That's all I need to do. But the Seahawks look

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Speaker 1: damn good. That's gonna be a very tough division. The

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Speaker 1: Rams look good. The Rams look good, damn there every week.

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Speaker 1: The forty nine ers look good today on the road

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Speaker 1: with Matt Jones filling in again for Rock Purdy, and

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Speaker 1: you and Sam Donald is dealing right now. Man, that's

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals notwithstanding, but as a division, not bad.

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Speaker 3: They look good. That division is tough.

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Speaker 1: Whoever comes out of that division, right, they will be

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Speaker 1: battle tested. Yeah, and you don't want to play them

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs going there watching this game. What we're

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Speaker 4: And listen, the Seahawks look good. They look good. They

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Speaker 4: He's surprised me this year. Sam Donald's god damn did

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Speaker 4: And again I've said it time and time again. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: Seattle? They unloaded off everybody.

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Speaker 4: They let Gino Smith go, they let Tyler Locket go,

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Speaker 3: A player of his caliber, a player of.

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Speaker 4: top ten in the NFL. At that, Well, okay, but

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Speaker 4: damn'n confused? Well who do they got to lean on?

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Speaker 4: Who do they have to lean on? And Lord have mercy?

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Speaker 4: Js and been cutting up since week one. I'm talking

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Speaker 3: He's playing crazy work man.

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Speaker 1: He's so quick. I mean he's sudden. Yes, I mean

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Speaker 1: you see him catch out, you catch out. He called

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Speaker 3: He's not. He's not a Tybreek fast. He's not not like.

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Speaker 4: A Jamar Chase. Get the ball in his hands and

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Speaker 3: He's more quick than fast.

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Speaker 4: That's why Sam Donald trust him so much. Anytime they

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Speaker 4: Then this is the problem. Let me tell you why.

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Speaker 4: They scared to actually play football like we used to play.

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Speaker 4: They scared to hit people. Everything, everything is everything is

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Speaker 4: Oh this is target. I mean, it's like, I feel you,

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Speaker 4: With out wrapping up, you know what they do most

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Speaker 3: Now? Aw man?

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Speaker 1: I mean think about how many Think about how many

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Speaker 3: From your action.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, because without consequences, there there are no lessons

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Speaker 1: to be learned. Right that being said, Washington three and six,

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Speaker 3: Twenty eight one, twenty eight, twenty one. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you see. You don't play Madden. Uh, you don't

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Speaker 4: Once you score twenty one twenty one points, the game

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Speaker 3: The game is over.

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Speaker 4: Even in the NFL we have a good defense, like

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Speaker 3: It was a wrap.

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Speaker 4: I know at some point they were gonna take their

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Speaker 4: Coaches have some kind of goddamn pack where you're not

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Speaker 4: gonna run the goddamn score up. Hell, you had twenty eight,

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Speaker 4: Well it was twenty at the half, right if I'm

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Speaker 4: not mistaking, right, Yeah, well twenty to half and they

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Speaker 4: ended the game with thirty eight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Only man, listen, they came off the pedal, they started

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Speaker 1: What happens is is that you get ahead and then

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Speaker 3: So it's so.

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Speaker 1: Easy, and it's like, well damn. And then they just

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Speaker 1: off and excuse me, and the Seahawks offense was rolling,

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Speaker 1: Oh Joe, I mean they scored touchdown, they kick off,

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Speaker 1: The game, for all intents and purposes, was over. I know, Look,

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Speaker 1: Get him some cheap stats? Nah? Hey, Marioda, you're up.

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Speaker 1: That's what should have happened. They guy, he hold on,

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Speaker 1: he missed a couple of weeks. Did he miss Las?

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Speaker 3: Hold On? Did he miss last week's game? Jaden? He

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Speaker 3: missed last week's game. He just got back. Yeh, hey,

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Speaker 3: what what's what? What do you think happened to him?

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Speaker 3: It looked like he dislocated his elbow.

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Speaker 1: Shit, because he's oh Joe, he's going down and he's

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Speaker 1: I do believe he'll come back. He can come back

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Speaker 1: The question is how much pain can they endure and

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Speaker 4: Right and and also also when you getting tackled like that,

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Speaker 4: I know when the hip tackle.

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Speaker 3: I mean players have to learn to.

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Speaker 4: Be able to fall, learn how to fall with the pressure.

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Speaker 4: You go with it, you don't fight against it. You know,

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Speaker 4: there's no need to brace in that instance.

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Speaker 3: Just let you let your body go, limp, Just let

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Speaker 4: Relaxed state and you're not ten stuff, you will be fine.

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Speaker 3: It's it's it's there's.

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Speaker 4: Somewhat of an art to it. It's someat of an

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Speaker 3: Stature, I never got hurt.

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Speaker 4: I understood how to fall and how to how to

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Speaker 4: And I appli was like gumby, I got hit, I

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Speaker 1: That thing old Joe, he didn't want to get thrown

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Speaker 1: about it because they want fluidity. They're throwing motion, so

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Speaker 3: But that's not what a quarterback does. A quarterbacks won't

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Speaker 1: Fluidity, So you can't be all can't all be all

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Speaker 1: no, no hour, give it. Give me somebody got shaped like

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Speaker 3: Look at quarter look at quarterback and pictures.

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Speaker 1: Now you see who a golf when they go to

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Speaker 1: celebrity golf tournament, you see who win. Pictures and quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: But most I'm shocked that they left.

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Speaker 1: Jadon and Daniels in the game down thirty one points

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Speaker 1: you know he missed last week and no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, bro, you gotta get him some reps in practice,

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Speaker 3: They still trying to tear the damn head head off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in a in a game and a practice, you

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Speaker 1: could control it. They get close, you blow the whistle.

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Speaker 1: He got a red jersey or black jersey on, meaning

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Speaker 1: he's off limits to be touched. But in actually a game,

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Speaker 1: they still going full speed, don't yoe and most coaches,

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Speaker 1: most coaches in that situation would have removed jayde Daniels.

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Speaker 3: From the game.

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Speaker 1: He should have been removed from the game. There was nothing.

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Speaker 1: There was absolutely nothing, nothing except what you got to

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Speaker 1: that's what you got. But Seattle, look, good man, that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a Seattle with Seattle and the Rams them

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Speaker 1: Pooka got ding two he got he got slam on

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Speaker 1: Davante had I think another two touchdown game today that

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Speaker 1: Oh choe, oh choe, Oh chows her rare her rare

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Speaker 4: Up, yeah, taking time now, I know, I know you're

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Speaker 3: I feel Tony the Tiger great. Now, where were we now?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know y'all gonna put that on the defense. Whoa, whoa, well,

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Speaker 3: who are you wait? Wait, wait you stop right here.

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Speaker 3: Who are you gonna put it on? Please explain?

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Speaker 2: Put it on?

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Speaker 3: Did y'all have any turnovers? Okay? Yeah? How many turnovers?

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Speaker 3: Did you have uh two over three? Okay? Okay, well

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Speaker 3: and ask your question.

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Speaker 1: Those turnovers help or hinder your ability to win this game?

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Speaker 3: Did that help or hinder? It hindered?

437
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Speaker 1: So let's just say, for the sake of argument, talk

438
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Speaker 1: to me, instead of having three turnovers, you have one

439
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,680
Speaker 1: and you score a field goal or you score a touchdown.

440
00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 3: Could this have been different?

441
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, we won the game, but you know it's a

442
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 4: game of football, unk, there were three turnovers.

443
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 3: We still put ourselves in a position to win the game.

444
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 4: We were in position to win the game. And you

445
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,399
Speaker 4: know what happened. You know what happened. Our defense let

446
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 4: us down again. Our defense let us down again. Even

447
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,640
Speaker 4: even with those turnovers, we were in position to win

448
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 4: the game. The Bengals are the first team since nineteen

449
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 4: sixty to score thirty eight points and back to back

450
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 4: games and lose. God damn Joe Flacco one hundred and

451
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 4: seventy years old and through for four hundred and seventy yards,

452
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 4: and we still lost the game. Defense again, which has

453
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 4: always been our Achilles heel, over and over and over again,

454
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,400
Speaker 4: time and time and time again, year after year after year.

455
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 4: I understand that the offense is our identity. It's always

456
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 4: been our identity, even back to when I was playing.

457
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 4: We have always been an offensive team, an offensive unit.

458
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,880
Speaker 4: But at some point, got you gotta compete, you gotta play,

459
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 4: you gotta want, you gotta want to.

460
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Speaker 1: All your money is on the offense, where you have

461
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Speaker 1: to win the game. Hello, hello themess question?

462
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 3: We scoed thirty eight?

463
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 1: How many mess your question? How many twenty million dollar

464
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 1: defensive players do you?

465
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Speaker 3: Guys? Have one?

466
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Speaker 1: You got three thirty million dollars, you got two thirty

467
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 1: million dollars that played the same position, just opposite to

468
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Speaker 1: each other, and you got a fifty million dollar quarterback.

469
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Speaker 3: So where is all your money tied up on offense?

470
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Speaker 3: I mean, hey, hold on, wait a minute.

471
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Speaker 4: That's our identity, though, I mean every every team is

472
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 4: like that. There's no team that's that's damn near even

473
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,679
Speaker 4: like that. Look at the Cleveland Browns. Where is all

474
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 4: that money tied up on the defensive end? Yes, Cincinnati,

475
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 4: So guess what you're gonna have to do? So guess

476
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 4: where you have to win the games?

477
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Speaker 3: At offense? The scoring thirty eight, it's the NFL. We

478
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 3: scored thirty eight too. You gotta score forty eight.

479
00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,679
Speaker 1: Huh, you scored forty two with three turns. If you

480
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 1: don't turn the ball over, how many of you score?

481
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Speaker 4: Oh, Joe, she was by the fifty ball and some change.

482
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 3: Exactly fifty ball wins you the ball game. But listen,

483
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Speaker 3: check is that right?

484
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 4: Listen to a chat y'all stopped laughing to I know

485
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 4: y'all probably laughing, Tom. This ain't no laughing matter, because

486
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 4: I'm pissed off the day. Hey, listen, we kicked off,

487
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,719
Speaker 4: we had a kickoff return for a TV. We had

488
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 4: a block field goal on site kicking recovery. We had

489
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 4: fire under yards of offense, two wide receivers one hundred

490
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Speaker 4: plus yards. Fifteen points. We scored fifteen points in less

491
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Speaker 4: than a goddamn minute. Forty forty two total points, scored

492
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Speaker 4: forty two for the point if you were if you

493
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Speaker 4: were the readoff what I just said to somebody who

494
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 4: didn't watch the bangup game, the first thing gonna say, Oh, well,

495
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 4: goddamn all that I know y'all won forty two points

496
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Speaker 4: and we still lost. Yes, despite the turnovers, despite the turnover.

497
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 4: But this is the game of football. You want to

498
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 4: minimize the errors as much as possible. That's why we practice.

499
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 4: We practiced to minimize the errors as much as possible,

500
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Speaker 4: but they happened.

501
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Speaker 3: On they happened.

502
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Speaker 4: It's all as much as you practice, you want to

503
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 4: be as perfect as possible.

504
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 3: But shit happens, and it happened today.

505
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, close anyway, because oh boy picked that

506
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: ball up. Y'all got to touch that man down that

507
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: should have been a touchdown to.

508
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Speaker 4: The house as a Honestly, I'm numb to it.

509
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 3: I'm numb to it. Hey, I'm I'm so numb to it.

510
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 4: I'm numb to it, like like like like like you

511
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 4: know how you go through something so much in life

512
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 4: and and it happened to you so much often it's like,

513
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 4: you know what, at this point, I don't even care

514
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 4: no more like I don't even I don't even care

515
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 4: no more like I care.

516
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Speaker 3: I care to an extent. But I mean, this is

517
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Speaker 3: back to.

518
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Speaker 4: Back the Jets, the Jets lastly, and then on top

519
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 4: of that, and then on top of that the Bears,

520
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 4: like come on, man and listen. But the Bears ain't

521
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 4: no joke because he unc he talk to me real

522
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 4: quick before the season started. Who of the two teams

523
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 4: I said, everybody needs to watch out for this years. Okay,

524
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 4: so again I'm not talking trash about the Bears because

525
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 4: I already said I knew what they were gonna look like.

526
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 3: I knew what they were probably going to do with.

527
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 4: The addition to Ben Johnson as the officer of the

528
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Speaker 4: coordinator and head coach called those players with Caleb Williams

529
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 4: and the talent that he has. But come on, man,

530
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 4: two weeks in a row scored over thirty eight points

531
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Speaker 4: and lost both games, and come on my defense. As listen,

532
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 4: they just said they just had a defensive meeting. They

533
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 4: just had a players only defensive meeting. This past they

534
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 4: was doing the Bengals.

535
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: They were they were talking about what costume, they was

536
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 1: talking about their outfits. They they gonna to the game, They discussed.

537
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 4: No games player and then man, listen, man, at some

538
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 4: point when they're.

539
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 3: Talking about the Halloween party, and then what you're going.

540
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Speaker 4: Ass Hey, when it comes to tackling, sometimes it's just

541
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 4: about want to. It's about want to. It's about want to.

542
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 4: It's about wanting to get the individual putting the hat

543
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 4: on the path. You're wearing pass for a reason, put

544
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 4: you out there and pass on somebody, wrap up.

545
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 3: If you ain't gonna wrap.

546
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 4: Up, make sure it's clean. Keep your eyes open before

547
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 4: you make contact. Everybody close your eyes. Do your best

548
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 4: Mike Singletary job as possible. Open your eyes wide open,

549
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 4: make the tackle, ensure it.

550
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 3: God damn.

551
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: The Bengals scored two touchdowns in the span of forty

552
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: nine seconds to erase a fourteen point lead the Bears,

553
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: but the Bearers pull their fifth win of the season

554
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: when Williams delivered a fifty eight yard touchdown. The rookie

555
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: tied End Coast to Loveland with seventeen seconds remaining. The

556
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: Bengals are the first team in the Super Bowl era

557
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 1: to allow five hundred plus yards and thirty eight plus

558
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 1: points and have zero takeaways in consecutive games. Oh jo,

559
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: let's take a listen to what Chase Brown had to

560
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: say after this game.

561
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Speaker 5: We just gotta play complimentary football, like we put the

562
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 5: ball on the end zone and go up a point

563
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 5: at the end. Finish the game like this ended like that,

564
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 5: Like that's that's like that's what we need to do.

565
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 5: Just end the game, like make them, make them get

566
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 5: us the ball back. Let us go to twenty two

567
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 5: victory and let's end the game. That's how that's like,

568
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 5: that's how I feel.

569
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: If he said that, Because then let me tell you

570
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: how how we are athlete. When you're frustrated, what you

571
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 1: say publicly is not nearly as bad as what you

572
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: say behind clothing.

573
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 3: Absolutely bad. It's when you're in the shower or when

574
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 3: you walk in the locker room.

575
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 1: You ay, you saw Chase walking off the field in

576
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 1: the tunnel saying what effing stopped?

577
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 3: But he said that. I can't say too much because

578
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 3: don't want to. Yeah, yeah, I don't do it. Don't

579
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 3: do it, don't do it, don't do it.

580
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 1: But look, you're talking to a guy that can speak

581
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: from experience, Yes, sir, because I was on that two

582
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: thousand Ravens team. We went five weeks and then score

583
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Let that say, care for a second chance.

584
00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: We went five weeks five, one, two, three, four or five.

585
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: We didn't score a touchdown and it could have splitted

586
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: the team. But at the time, myself, Rod and Ray

587
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: we did everything together. And I told man, I said, Ray,

588
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: y'all have been outstanding. But the things that I love

589
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: about football, they don't take units to the Super Bowl.

590
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: They take teams So now what you can do is

591
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: be supported publicly. Yes, we're gonna get our things fixed.

592
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: We're not gonna be We're not gonna be the Minnesota

593
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: Vikings of nineteen eighty ninety eight. We're not gonna score

594
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: thirty five. That's not what we are. But we can

595
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: do a better job of taking care of the football.

596
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: Give y'all, we a y'all will have to make fourteen

597
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: or seventeen stick because we're not gonna be putting up

598
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: no thirties. I'm just gonna tell you right now. So

599
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: if you're looking for a thirty something, that issu ain't happening.

600
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: So get your mind and says, hey, they gonna give

601
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: us a ten point lead and we might have to

602
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: make ten stick. But complaining and publicly stak to stick together, Yeah,

603
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: stick together. I know it's frustrated. Hell, I'm frustrated because

604
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: we're coming out the field and the fans bull it.

605
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: But they don't know. I'm bully too. You hear him, bully, Yeah,

606
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: I hear him. I'm bulled right along with him.

607
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, listen, we sucked, you know because we did.

608
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I mean with offensive players have

609
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 4: to understand, you got to be careful what you say,

610
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 4: especially you know, as an offensive player, you gotta be

611
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,959
Speaker 4: careful what you say because listen, it's gonna come games.

612
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 4: We still got a long we got a head, we

613
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 4: got a long season together. Hey, we got a long

614
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 4: season ago, and you don't want to be making mistakes.

615
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 4: And you have defensive defensive players calling out the offense

616
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 4: as well, so it can get it can get real petty.

617
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 3: Work out like that.

618
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: We got the ball, they throw it to it, what happened?

619
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 3: Drop it? Yep? I mean think a thing can get

620
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 3: real petty in that locker room. They don't need to splinter.

621
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 3: I think Chase Brown and you know, Jamar, you got

622
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 3: to be careful with some of the things you say.

623
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 4: Be supportive of your defense, even though you are losing.

624
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 4: Some of the things you really want.

625
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 3: To say, don't say it, you know, keep it in

626
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 3: your head.

627
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 4: Just be supportive as much as possible because things are

628
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 4: gonna turn around, maybe not for the better, but they're

629
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 4: gonna be games with the defense play as well and

630
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 4: then offensive ship.

631
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: You remember when y'all went to the Super Bowl, Joe

632
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: Burrow got sacked nine times at Tennessee defense took the

633
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: ball away. Look at what they did in Kansas City,

634
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: took the ball away. Look now, the way you guys

635
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: are set up, you guys are set up you basically

636
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: it's hard to play like that.

637
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 3: I told you this last year.

638
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: I said, Joe knows that if I leave anything on

639
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: my plate, they're gonna eat it.

640
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 3: So I've got oh, Joe, I got.

641
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: To clean the plate, which means every possession he got

642
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: a damn near score, he got a damn near score

643
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: because his defense they can't. They don't take the ball away,

644
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: they don't generate pressure. I mean, I'm looking at this game.

645
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, y'all are just y'all just bad. D I mean,

646
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: they're just bad.

647
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 4: Now this nigga, I'm oh, oh, shoot, my bad, I'm

648
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 4: tripping this dude. Flacco was thirty one for forty seven,

649
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 4: four tds and four hundred and seventy yards four hundred

650
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 4: and seventy yards at forty something years old. T Higgins

651
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 4: had seven for one the TD I don't I don't

652
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 4: even I don't even know what chasing two TVs don't.

653
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 4: I don't even know what chase numbers was earlier six for.

654
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 3: One, eleven six.

655
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: Brown had eight for seventy five, Iso had five for

656
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: sixty six. Hudson had two for forty two. No A

657
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: Fan had two twenty eight. I'm a tub and uh

658
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: Tinsley had one for twenty seven.

659
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,719
Speaker 4: Hey, they got aany man that Flacco is dealing, bro,

660
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 4: Like it's like, I mean, for us to play the way,

661
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 4: for us to play as well as we are offensively,

662
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 4: despite the woes, despite the turnovers, you want to do

663
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 4: everything you can to minimim because you understand that our

664
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 4: defense is not that good. We're not that good on

665
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 4: any level, whether it be the back end, hell, the

666
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 4: second level, hell, the front level for that matter. You know, no,

667
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,239
Speaker 4: no disrespecting them boys, but I mean it just is

668
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 4: what it is.

669
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 3: Offensive. Go ahead, such I'm not I'm gonna say offense.

670
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,719
Speaker 3: They got as well as they play today. You just

671
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 3: can't turn the ball over because we can't. You can't

672
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 3: make up for.

673
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: It knowing what you know, how how poor your defense is. Yeah,

674
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: what's the last thing that you want to do? Turn

675
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: the ball over?

676
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 3: Look?

677
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: Sorry, ass, back out there, because think about it, oh Joe,

678
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: if they're driving the field, if they're driving seventy five

679
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: eighty yards, what's gonna happen if you give them a

680
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: short feel. If you can't stop it from going seventy

681
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: five eighty, what makes you gonna stop making? What makes

682
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: you think you can stop it from going thirty?

683
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: Yeah you're not, you're not. I mean, they run it, man,

684
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 3: they run it. They run it. Ay, it's the first time.

685
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 3: How long are I for got?

686
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: How long they said it's been a quarterback called two

687
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: passes in a game. That's what they're doing to y'all.

688
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: They throwing passes to the quarterback, not one.

689
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 3: Two, I understand. You know that's that. That's that Ben

690
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 3: Johnson creativity. That's what I do for y'all because I

691
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 3: know y'all can't stop nothing. We do well nothing.

692
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: Who would who would even subject their quarterback to possibly getting.

693
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 3: Hello?

694
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: Remember RG three try to catch your pass against the Steelers.

695
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: RG three laid him out on.

696
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 3: The side, got hit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what you do.

697
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 3: They say, No, they ran a spree.

698
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, I get it on the gold line, you

699
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: lose saying, I mean they handed to the guy and

700
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: he had talked to the DJ Moore.

701
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 3: J Moore threw a touchdown. They ran a screen with

702
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 3: a quarterback.

703
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 4: You understand the point of that play is a confused

704
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 4: the defense. You get him going one way and you

705
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 4: get him going another way, and whoop. The quarterback always

706
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 4: steaks out the back end because eyes I discipline. I discipline.

707
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 4: You put your eyes in the wrong place. All of

708
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 4: a sudden, you lose the man you're supposed to have.

709
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 4: Most of the time, when you see reverse and it

710
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 4: go one way and then the ball come back to

711
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 4: the other, you lose the quarterback.

712
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 3: You lose a quarterback. And where he is. That's why

713
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 3: he was wide open like that. That's why it's called

714
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 3: a trick play. I think it might have worked.

715
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 4: It might have worked on any team, especially down there

716
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:20,959
Speaker 4: at that time.

717
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question.

718
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 1: Somebody is already responsible for the quarterback when you run

719
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:26,919
Speaker 1: the boot leg as the defensive minion.

720
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 3: Or if somebody has the quarterback, he got sucked in,

721
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 3: Well he done crashed down on the goddamn sweet the toss.

722
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 1: Now, I ain't hear responsibility. You see what you see

723
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: what happens if you try to look here. If I

724
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: do my job, if something goes awry, I did my job,

725
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: because the last thing I want to do is do

726
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: somebody else job and then all of a sudden, my

727
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 1: job go attended unattended. Who they're gonna blame moyo exactly.

728
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: That's not your responsible ability. Damn do your responsibility, Oh Joe,

729
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: Today y'all gave up. Y'all y'all gave up. Damn the

730
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: three hundred yards rushing and three hundred yards pass it.

731
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 3: Hey, that wasn't necessary. We know that part that the year.

732
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 3: You didn't have to bring that up.

733
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 1: We know that we were thirty seven for two eighty three.

734
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: Did y'all pinch them? Did y'all trip? So I tripped somebody.

735
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,479
Speaker 4: I know, I know, and I'm gonaup say two.

736
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: Stop all that running in the hall they got hall.

737
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: They don't even getting no hall pass. You didn't have

738
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: a hall pass. You know you have to get a

739
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: pass to be in the hall, y'all. Didn't They in

740
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: y'all house and it ain't got no hall pass.

741
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:36,479
Speaker 3: The just run it. Y'all.

742
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: Ain't trip them, y'all, ain't pinch them, y'all ain't do nothing.

743
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 3: We're gonna be all right, though.

744
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: No you're not. I kept I told you this, I say.

745
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: By the time Joe Burr is healthy enough to come back.

746
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: Y'all mind as well leave it? Yeah, your minds wasn't

747
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: leaving where he is?

748
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 3: Hey, you know were on the back week, hun, y'all

749
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 3: probably give up forty on that one. I bet y'all

750
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 3: give up forty points in the back. Hey, Hey where that? Hey?

751
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 4: That Hurtell? Hey, young that were watching that game today?

752
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,919
Speaker 3: Where that hurt? To be able to to be able

753
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 3: to come back like that?

754
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 4: The squatermount of points you did, the squarter amount of

755
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 4: points we did in a short time span.

756
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 3: Down fourteen come back? Oh you know what?

757
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 4: We got? This one sealed up and here we go

758
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 4: three people, three people surrounding the rookie tight end and

759
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 4: nobody brings him down.

760
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: Car He tried to go for the big hit, get

761
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: him on the ground. Hey, the rule of thumb is thought.

762
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: Joe live to see another day? Yeah that's all? Yeah,

763
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: see another day?

764
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 3: Hey, well that's that's I don't even know what to say.

765
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 3: I mean, tired about best? Yet he completed the past.

766
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 3: DJ Moore completed the past.

767
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: I mean even Cold Kombat tried to throw one. I mean,

768
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: how many people that I mean think about that chat

769
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: for just a second. They allow four people to attempt

770
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: to pass in an NFL game, not.

771
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 3: Pop Warner, not college, not not height, not in a

772
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 3: mural in college, in an NFL game.

773
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, with the NFL logo, they allowed tight ends and

774
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 1: receivers to throw a pass against the Bengals.

775
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 3: It's embarrassing. Well, listen, it's embarrassing.

776
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: It is it is.

777
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 4: It is that there's not much I can do it.

778
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 4: I've done all I can to try to nothing I know,

779
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 4: and I've done all I can to try to defend it.

780
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 3: I can't even defend it at this point, like it's trash.

781
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 4: It's trash with what we're dis playing, what we're putting

782
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 4: out there is the players aren't playing well, and it

783
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 4: make exact tator look bad. It makes it defense, the

784
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 4: coaches look bad because there's no way in here. Well

785
00:37:55,520 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 4: did you practice all week? Well did you do anything defense? Offensively?

786
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 4: They showing up every guy.

787
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 3: Damn we I mean see your guard to Johnson, get

788
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 3: off his couch and come get a sack. The man

789
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 3: he got it. He came in and just off the couch. Sack.

790
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: Damn.

791
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 4: It's I'm number to it at this point. Man last

792
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 4: year list last year around his time, last year around

793
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 4: his time. Two back to back losses like this, I

794
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 4: would have been on the show and tears. Man, I

795
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 4: can't even cry no more. I'm I'm hey, listen, I'm

796
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 4: all cried out.

797
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't cry. I can't even cry no more.

798
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: I can't jam all cried out. I am, I am

799
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 3: what you nobody that what he what? You know?

800
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 4: Nobody in cold jam but no back.

801
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 3: That that's my era. Yeah what I do, that's what

802
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 3: that's that's that. That's that jam man, I'll be oh yo.

803
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: The fact of the matter is, and I know, look defensively,

804
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 1: you had the situation, but you know your defense is poorous.

805
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: You can't turn the ball over. You still turned the

806
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: ball over three times. How many points did they score

807
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: on those turnovers?

808
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 3: Let's see.

809
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: They were eight to fifteen? Or third down? There was

810
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: two or two on fourth down they had six. They

811
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: had five hundred and seventy six total yards and eleven drives.

812
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: Y'all had three turnovers, two interceptions, y'all have a special

813
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 1: teams touchdown. How many three? They're only scoring three points?

814
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: So your defense did do something. They only held them

815
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: to three points after the turnovers.

816
00:39:55,000 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, mister, I mean a, oh yeah, yeah, that that.

817
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 3: We don't count that. That pick. That pick, so they

818
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 3: had two turn over. So we ain't gonna we ain't gonna.

819
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 3: We're gonna. We ain't gonna even count that last interception. Okay,

820
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 3: all right, appreciate that. So we had to. But still

821
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,479
Speaker 3: you don't. You don't want them. You can't. You can't

822
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 3: in the red zone they were four or six. You

823
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 3: were two for four.

824
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: Damn kicking field goals in the red zone. Get your beat,

825
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: get your ass kicked, go and touchdowns in the red zone.

826
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: You kick somebody else's ass.

827
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 3: Damn. Mm hmm. Don't cuss. Call gus. I feel good.

828
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 3: I mean I feel good. I know you do. I

829
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 3: know you do.

830
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: I know you.

831
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 3: I know you feel good. And listen, there's not much

832
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 3: I can do. Yeah they're not so good. So good,

833
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 3: I got you. Yeah, he ain't. It is what it

834
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 3: is that it's been, and it wouldn't be nothing. The

835
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 3: Biggles didn't suck.

836
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 4: It's all good. It's our offense is better than y'alls.

837
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's what we're doing now. Yeah,

838
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm just saying our record, Oh look, I know our

839
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 1: record is seventy two. What's your record?

840
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 3: Should we three and six? Now? Three and six? Wow,

841
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 3: it's all good. It ain't looking good for y'all. I know,

842
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 3: I know, I know it's not I know. No good,

843
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 3: it's all good. It's all good. We'll be ready next year. Yeah,

844
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 3: I told you I'm going. I'm preparing for next year.

845
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: I told you, I say the being I said, y'all

846
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: will lose to the Jets, and y'all gonna lose to

847
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: the Bears.

848
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, are you know?

849
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 1: I just wanted to tell me, Hey, Chap, do y'all

850
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: know what happened to brother Brownie? You know brother Brownie? Yeah,

851
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: what happened to him?

852
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 3: He right there on the bench. Mm hmm. Yeah. You

853
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: see you see flack o'dealing each week though I don't.

854
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: I don't care about that. The most status, Hey this

855
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: is I think Hispanic heritage much. But the NFL. I'll

856
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: be giving this had away.

857
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 3: Uh see. I signed it eighty four h O L

858
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 3: three times super Bowl champ. Don't nobody want that? WHOA what?

859
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 3: I guarantee you don't nobody want no Bengals merch. Yeah,

860
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 3: if my name on it, they do.

861
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 4: This is the thing that hold on state, stay with

862
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 4: me real quick, as bad as we playing right, as

863
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 4: bad as we playing defensively.

864
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 3: However, it is, whatever it may be like that that

865
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 3: a five at eight five.

866
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 4: Any Memorabillia hats jerseys is still a great representation of

867
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 4: that organization, whether they winning or whether they're losing.

868
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 3: The number. Do you know what the number one selling

869
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 3: thing is in Cincinnati right now? O Joe?

870
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: Brown paper bags? Because don't nobody want to know that

871
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: they're a bigger fan. They put bag over the head

872
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: after the number one selling thing.

873
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 4: Wait wait, wait a minute, No, no, no, no, not

874
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 4: with no, no not it's not not with the offense

875
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 4: plan as well as it is you losing you ay

876
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 4: chat you hear you see how you separated? You see

877
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 4: I don't I don't have I don't have a choice.

878
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 4: But the separated I ain't got no choice.

879
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 3: So what did you do? So let me ask you

880
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 3: a question.

881
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: Y'all scoring forty two points, y'all was two or four

882
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: in the rams on? So what happened on those other

883
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: two possessions?

884
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 4: And every every time we come on here we talk

885
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 4: about the bangles, I say, what's what's the problem that

886
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 4: we always have? What has always been our Achilles here,

887
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 4: it's been our defense. If we score fifty, the other

888
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 4: teams score fifty five. If we score sixty, the other

889
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 4: keep the other team's go.

890
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 3: Get that fifty, though, So let me ask your question.

891
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: When you're in the red zone, you scored fifty, if

892
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: you scored two more, if you scored two touchdowns on that,

893
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 1: Now you gota.

894
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: Whoa whoa whoa.

895
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 4: The other team gets paid to every time you get

896
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 4: to the god damn you should have scored in the

897
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 4: red zone. St'll go kicking field and remember Chicago, mister field,

898
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 4: go bad bad. You didn't hear me, though, every time

899
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 4: you get to the red zone, you know it because

900
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 4: it's that much more difficult to score once you get

901
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 4: down there. It's not like that.

902
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 3: Why would it be so difficult when you get.

903
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: The got chased, y'all got higgin, y'all got y'all got

904
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: chased brown, y'all got flag or wheeling and dealer?

905
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 3: Could it be so difficult? I'm gonna tell you why.

906
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you we willing deal in the open field.

907
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 4: When you get down in the red zone, there's not

908
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 4: that much rumors. There's only so much you can do,

909
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 4: it becomes that much more difficult to score in the

910
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 4: red zone.

911
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 3: You know that once you go inside the twenty or

912
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 3: it gets tough, you understand that. I don't want to

913
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 3: hear nothing about labor pains. Okay, it's cool.

914
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 1: Deliver me a healthy baby. I'm gonna rub your head, baby,

915
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: tell you everything gonna be Okay. You're doing amazing. I

916
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: gotta I got this. I got this range rovere lined

917
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 1: up for you. You got a burken bad coming. Just

918
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: bring me a healthy.

919
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 3: Share, that's all. Okay. I don't want to hear nothing

920
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 3: about what you're talking about.

921
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 4: A good and so listen. I'm like a chick in

922
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 4: the relationship that checked out. Man, I'm mentally checked out,

923
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 4: but you.

924
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 3: Already do I do I do that. When you checked in,

925
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 3: I know you you came for no good reasons. Yeah,

926
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 3: I'm checked out. It's still my team. It's still my team.

927
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 3: It's just like why just just what? It's never just

928
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 3: my heart is never just there's always a reason.

929
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: Is it my heart getting your car and just sit there,

930
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 1: or do you're getting your car to go to the gym,

931
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: or you're getting your car to go to the airport,

932
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: or you're getting your car to go, take your lady

933
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: out to eat. So it's never just there's always a reason.

934
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,959
Speaker 1: So what is the reason you're giving up on your team?

935
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 4: We were playing bad and it's hurting me.

936
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 3: It's hurting me. Yeah, you know.

937
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 4: Sometimes sometimes you gotta learn to let go. Sometimes you

938
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 4: gotta learn to disconnect, like Wi Fi, like Blue you got.

939
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 3: I don't let go, don't let go, I'm saying.

940
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 4: I'm saying, let let letting go to the point where

941
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 4: the losing it doesn't affect you personally because.

942
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 2: It was in you.

943
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 3: Listen, I just want to know, is the Bengals is

944
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 3: it on you or is it in you? It's trying.

945
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 3: If it's on you, you can brush it off. But

946
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 3: if it's in you, it hurts.

947
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it hurts.

948
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 3: Say it hurt like brand new shoes.

949
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you know how brand new shoes hurt. You

950
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: couldn't wait to get somewhere you can take up and

951
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: take your shoes.

952
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, most definitely, most

953
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 4: definitely definitely.

954
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 3: Yeah.

955
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 4: But listen, once you become numb, mon.

956
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: Now, you ain't numb. No no, no, no no, no,

957
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: ain't got no you ain't got no ya cane. You

958
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: ain't got no marcaine. You got no no, none of that.

959
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: I need you to feel this.

960
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't feel it no more. M hmmm, huh.

961
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't, Young, I can't. I can't now.

962
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 4: I pinch myself. I can't even feel that. I can't

963
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 4: all your pain right now? You love your bangles, I do,

964
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 4: I do.

965
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 3: See.

966
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 1: Love is the only thing that's worse than death, because

967
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: you allied to feel that hurt.

968
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, to feel that pain. Let me tell you something

969
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 3: that suffer it. Let me tell you something. You think

970
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 3: about this. You can only put a person through so

971
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,919
Speaker 3: much before what you do. Don't bother no more. Huh.

972
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 4: We didn't all been there before. I don't need to

973
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 4: explain this in death. We didn't been there before. You

974
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 4: done did this, You done got away with it. You

975
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 4: can apologize, and you keep doing it over and over

976
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 4: and over and over and that at one point that

977
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 4: individual but mentally they not even now you know. So

978
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 4: I'm at that point now. Well, God damn, were getting

979
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 4: the same results every week.

980
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 3: I get hyped up. I'm hyped Okay, one o'clock we

981
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 3: playing so and so, and at the end of the day.

982
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 3: It's the same result. I become numb. I become numb.

983
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 3: I can't go. Hey, I can't.

984
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 4: I ain't even got no tears that I ain't got

985
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 4: no tears tonight. That's how you know it's something wrong

986
00:47:59,239 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 4: with me.

987
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: You got you got twenty five years invested. See when

988
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: you got that kind of time. Yeah, even though you

989
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: say you checked out, it's still hurt because you like,

990
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: I've just spent twenty five years of my life with

991
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: this person and it's.

992
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 3: Coming to an end. Well, you know what if you

993
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 3: know you, if I cut you right now, blue, you

994
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 3: bleed on orange. I bleed, I bleed the orange and black.

995
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:38,439
Speaker 3: Excuse me, bless me, bless me. Yeah, huges, I don't

996
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 3: know what. I don't know what he got, but I

997
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 3: want him to keep it. Chet.

998
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 4: I ain't got none, I ain't got nothing.

999
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 3: It's all good.

1000
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: But that being said, your bangles, Oh the Bangal's gonna

1001
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 1: do so much. You get over here every year and pontificate,

1002
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: you blowiate about how your bangles.

1003
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, and every year disappointment And see you hear what

1004
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 3: I'm say.

1005
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 4: Disappointment, expectations, expectations, make a fool of us.

1006
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 3: All I learned that real well.

1007
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 4: But listen, there's something that if you know me real well, right,

1008
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 4: there's something that I'm really good at doing.

1009
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 3: You hear me, Stay with me real quick, if you

1010
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 3: know me, I can love like no other.

1011
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 4: But on the other hand, when it's time to disconnect,

1012
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 4: but unplug that bit so fast and be gone.

1013
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: But that's what I think about your show. I ain't

1014
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: so show you love the woman like you love them begles.

1015
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 3: I'm so. I'm not shure now I could be. I'm

1016
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 3: just sitting over here.

1017
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 4: Hey listen, hey, I never love I never loved nothing

1018
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 4: like them Bangles. You hear me, hey, cause because hey,

1019
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 4: hold on, you got to understand what them Bengals did

1020
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,919
Speaker 4: for me. I know, hold on from from four years old.

1021
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 4: I had a dream. Uh, I had a dream as

1022
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 4: an adolescent. Hey, I wanted to be an NFL player.

1023
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 4: I wanted to make it to the top, to the

1024
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 4: pinnacle of my childhood dream. I didn't care, not about

1025
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 4: the money, but making the millions was pretty cool.

1026
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 3: That was that was pretty cool. Made me feel good

1027
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 3: about myself.

1028
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: You know.

1029
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 3: It gave me.

1030
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 4: It gave me a little power, gave me the control

1031
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 4: to be able to take care of those that sacrifice

1032
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 4: for me when I really couldn't do nothing for him.

1033
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 3: So that is where that love comes from. Numb man,

1034
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 3: A numb yeah, yeah, man, it's like a damn man.

1035
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: I gave you some medicine so you could feel all

1036
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: that pain. I don't want you to be numb. I

1037
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: don't want you to be disensitized.

1038
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 4: Well, let me tell you, let me tell you something.

1039
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 4: How about let's let's talk about my goddamn Panthers.

1040
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 3: Let's do that. You never been to Carolina, let alone

1041
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 3: with your Panthers. Hold on, wait a minute. You got

1042
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 3: the guppiest time.

1043
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 4: That's that's what we're not gonna do. Because I was

1044
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 4: the only one. I've been standing. I've been standing on

1045
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 4: the table. I've been poundering on the drum. I've been

1046
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 4: poundling a drummer about the Panthers before the season even started,

1047
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 4: when everybody else was counting them out because they weren't

1048
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 4: that good last year. And I said, I said, wait

1049
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 4: a minute, I see how they drafted, I see what

1050
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 4: they did in the off season.

1051
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 3: I saw the vision. I understood what they could do.

1052
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 4: Okay, and again they proved they proved me right. Yet again,

1053
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 4: I wait till we get to that, but go on ahead.

1054
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you also said, oh we got t Mofo

1055
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 3: Higgins back. Oh you doing that?

1056
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: Mean?

1057
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 3: Uh?

1058
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Oh the guppy Oh tour Cheetah waddle a

1059
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:40,919
Speaker 1: chan whoa.

1060
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 3: But we got we had, we had injuries. Tarrek got hurt.

1061
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: Ain't no else, So allowed us want to make sure

1062
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm hearing you correctly. There are no other team in

1063
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: the NFL that's dealing with injuries, just the just the Guppies.

1064
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 4: No, I mean, I mean obviously the quarterback hasn't been

1065
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 4: playing well. He's been inconsistent, you know, week week the week.

1066
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: So let me ask your question based on what you

1067
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: know the last five years dealing with the Dolphins, dealing

1068
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 1: with the Bengals, what do you know what happened?

1069
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 3: What do you know to be one percent? For certain?

1070
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 3: Quarterback play for the Gumps have been inconsistent.

1071
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: He gets hurt. Yeah, the quarterback play in Cincinnati. What

1072
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: happens in three or the six years that he's been

1073
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Tell the people at home what's happening.

1074
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 3: Don't yall you got hurt, You got hurt. It's all

1075
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 3: good though.

1076
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 4: See now you understand why it's so easy to disconnect

1077
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 4: when you can tell when you continues to get hurt

1078
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 4: over and over and over. And the problem is sometimes

1079
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 4: we don't know what to disconnect. That's the problem in life.

1080
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,439
Speaker 4: Something anything that continuesly lets you down all the time,

1081
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 4: no matter how much you love it. You got to

1082
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 4: learn when to let go it's not good for you.

1083
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 4: And I've been able to do that. I'm able to apartmentalized,

1084
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 4: you know. Yeh yeah, I mean I'm able to God

1085
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 4: damn it.

1086
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: Uh.

1087
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 3: There're a tweet when out the locker room is showing

1088
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 3: it's cracked.

1089
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: The ones that laugh or decline saying catch you on

1090
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: Monday with Jordan Battle, Shamar Stewart, T. J. Slayton also

1091
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: declined it with Tris Jenkins Junior and Miles Murphy got another.

1092
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 3: Got another anything up there? Wait? What what that say?

1093
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 3: What that say?

1094
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: The locker room is showing its cracks. The defense guys

1095
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of football refused to talk or

1096
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: have you know, uh slide laugh catch you on Monday

1097
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: Jordan Battle, Shamar Stewart, T. J.

1098
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 3: Slayton, Chris Jenkins Junior, and Miles Murphy.

1099
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 4: What they didn't want us sell for a reason, obviously.

1100
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean that you should have plenty, they

1101
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: should have plenty of you didn't do. It's on defense.

1102
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: So what you're tired for? What you ain't want to

1103
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: talk about?

1104
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 4: I'd rather them not say anything at all. I don't

1105
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,760
Speaker 4: I don't see that. It's showing cracks with frustrated.

1106
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 3: They didn't play. Hey, yeah, yeah, I mean what is

1107
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 3: that to say? Shoot, the report gave up. You gave up.

1108
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 3: Damn the six hundred yards and fifty points.

1109
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 4: Hey, the reporters watched the game, they saw the game.

1110
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 4: What is it to say, Man, don't putting no camera

1111
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:16,479
Speaker 4: in my face after that ship?

1112
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: Oh but let me ask your question. If you if

1113
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: you got six sacks and six turnovers, you talking yes

1114
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: or no?

1115
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 3: Oh? I see how this thing works. Okay, Yeah, it's

1116
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 3: all good. It's all good. Mm hmm. Front runner. No,

1117
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 3: I ain't no, he ain't ain't no front runner.

1118
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 4: But I just understand you put you you put that

1119
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 4: camera in some of the young bulls, them young bull's

1120
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 4: face right now, they're gonna say the wrong thing.

1121
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 3: Let me ask your question.

1122
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: I put that camera in front of Shamas Stewart's face

1123
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,240
Speaker 1: and he got three sacks in the forest fumble.

1124
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 3: He talking yes or no?

1125
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: Oh?

1126
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yea, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

1127
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: Jordan Battle if he gets a pig, Slayton, Miles Murphy,

1128
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: if they do anything defensively, They had a lot to

1129
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 1: talk about.

1130
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 3: Hold on, who did that beat? Did that beat the Steelers?

1131
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 3: Did y'all beat the Steelers? Who y'all beat? Yeah? We

1132
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,280
Speaker 3: did Steelers. I just want to know we Did anybody

1133
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 3: on the defense talk when they beat the Steelers? Yes

1134
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 3: or no? Yeah, I'm sure they did.

1135
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: Why they talking? That was just one game? That puts

1136
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: you at two and what that puts you at two

1137
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: and three and whatever? Yeah, now you don't want to

1138
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: talk that word. That's all good. It's all good. It's

1139
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:21,439
Speaker 1: all good.

1140
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. I see, I see how y'all do it? And

1141
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 3: that's messed up.

1142
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: Man. The Bills beat the Chiefs by the score twenty

1143
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: eight twenty one, the fourth time this season the Chiefs

1144
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: have lost a one score game. Remember last year they

1145
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: were winning a lot of these one score games. When

1146
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: pressure Mahons was three of sixteen for just sixty one

1147
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,479
Speaker 1: yards and an interception. Overall, he completed fifteen or thirty

1148
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: four passes. This is the first time in his nine

1149
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: year career that he was held under fifty percent, passing

1150
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: a streak of one hundred and forty two games including

1151
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:57,280
Speaker 1: the playoffs, which was an NFL record to start a career.

1152
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,720
Speaker 1: They got after That's why you go get a joy Bosa.

1153
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: They couldn't block him no at all.

1154
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 4: He calls, he calls, having he was disruptive all he

1155
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 4: was disruptive all night. Hefore he forced my homes, made

1156
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 4: him uncomfortable, get him off the spot, had me having

1157
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 4: to throw on the run, use his legs a lot,

1158
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 4: and he you knowed.

1159
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: One judge, you one Johnson. I already know he gonna get,

1160
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: he gonna get, he gonna get, he gonna get illegal

1161
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: formation because he's gonna line his ass up in the backfield. Uh,

1162
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 1: he gonna get a holding call. I already know that

1163
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 1: going into the game. Andy Reiders already counted that, like, Okay,

1164
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna get he gonna get to. This guy's gonna

1165
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 1: get to it's gonna get two penoties. Absolutely absolutely, so

1166
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: now let me let me call plays according knowing that

1167
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna get those two pilloties. Uh. But they they

1168
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: they harassed him all night They did a great job

1169
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: of pressuring him, making him making it very very uncomfortable.

1170
00:56:55,200 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 3: For the score. Uh, but looking at what what what

1171
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 3: did you like about what you saw from Buffalo?

1172
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, Josh goddamn Allen on man got Josh with goddamn

1173
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 4: twenty three for twenty twenty three for twenty six for

1174
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:13,760
Speaker 4: two seventy three a TD James Cook out there cooking

1175
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 4: twenty seven two to seven carriage for one hundred and fourteen.

1176
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 4: Kincaid had six for one oh one. Obviously, Joey Boso,

1177
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,479
Speaker 4: we saw what he did defensively, but the goddamn Chiefs

1178
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 4: really couldn't really couldn't get nothing going. Kareem Hunt had

1179
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 4: forty nine. Rice I almost said, Rashi Rice, it is

1180
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 4: Rashi Rice Rice. I mean you only had four for eighty,

1181
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 4: so they the Bills defense kind of kept kept the

1182
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 4: Chiefs in check. Mahomes was what fifteen for thirty four

1183
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 4: two point fifty at an interception, and listen, goddamn, it's

1184
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 4: the regular season. It's a good win for Buffalo, it's

1185
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 4: a good win, but it's the regular season. In the

1186
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 4: regular season, Josh Allen is five and one against Patrick

1187
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 4: Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs.

1188
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 3: But that is not where it matters. It not what matters.

1189
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 4: What are we gonna do when it gets to the

1190
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 4: AFC Championship? Can you get over the humped in? And

1191
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 4: they gonna see each other again? And that's probably that's

1192
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 4: probably gonna with the two teams to come out of

1193
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 4: the AFC unless for some some crazy reason, the Ravens

1194
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 4: have a resurgence and Lamar is a magician and just

1195
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 4: bring and just brings them back from I mean, what's

1196
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 4: what the Ravens?

1197
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 3: What two and two and what now? They like? I

1198
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 3: think they were like three three games three? Yeah, that

1199
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 3: means they might be three and six two.

1200
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,919
Speaker 1: I thought Buffalo did a great job. First of all,

1201
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: the Chiefs really didn't stand a chance because the Chiefs

1202
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: like to stop the run. Oh yeah, this is the

1203
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: first time they've they've given up one hundred yard rusher

1204
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: in what twenty something games, which was the longest current

1205
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: active street Okay, now we can't stop the run. Buffalo

1206
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: did a great job of doing. What getting Tranquil to

1207
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: cover tight ends and slot receivers.

1208
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 3: That's not what he is. He's a run stuffer. He's

1209
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 3: not covering. He's not a cover backer, so he didn't.

1210
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: You see Dawson Knox, You see King Kid, You see

1211
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: that getting secure matched up on him because they motioned

1212
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: and they know it's a man coverage.

1213
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 3: If you can. If Kansas City can't stop the run,

1214
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 3: they can't win.

1215
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, because now you're at the mercy because they're gonna

1216
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: play action. You and guy's gonna dip dunk the ball.

1217
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: And they got two tight ends. They got two tight

1218
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: ends that can can really can can make a difference

1219
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: in the ball game. Knocks and kink boys nice and

1220
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: like you said, Josh Allen did a great job. He

1221
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: was twenty three. Think about it, twenty three of twenty

1222
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: six to have three incompletions in an NFL game.

1223
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 4: The whole game, only only three, That's that's crazy.

1224
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 3: What I what I do want is I want I

1225
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 3: don't know what's going on, but I would love for

1226
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 3: the resurgence of my young bull Keon Cohen to be

1227
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 3: a little bit, a little bit more.

1228
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: Can't separate Joe Huh, the big body guy that needs

1229
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: to elevate. It's hard. I mean, look at him. Yeah,

1230
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: he doesn't do what he doesn't win. He doesn't win

1231
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,919
Speaker 1: against press coverage. And the thing else if he can't

1232
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: use his athleticism. Yeah, he keep saying the same thing,

1233
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: keep saying the same thing. Go if you go back

1234
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: and study him at Florida State.

1235
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 3: Look at what he did. He's leaping over people making catches.

1236
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: You can't beat If you can't beat Man coverage in

1237
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,439
Speaker 1: the NFL, and you're not uber uber.

1238
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 3: I'm talking about like like elite or the lead of

1239
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 3: the leite.

1240
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 1: If you can't beat Man coverage, there are two jobs

1241
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: that's available for you, car salesman and coaching.

1242
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 3: We gonna get him right. We don't get him right.

1243
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 4: I just here, he has too much talent, Yeah, too

1244
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 4: much talent not to be not to be being used.

1245
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: He gotta be where you gotta. You gotta work on

1246
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 1: his quitch chitch because you gotta get to get get

1247
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: off Man coverage. Can't separate.

1248
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 3: We're gonna get him right. We don't get him right.

1249
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 3: We don't get him right. Yeah. But I saw early

1250
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 3: on to what they were trying.

1251
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: What they were doing, yeah, is that they were getting

1252
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: those tight ends matched up on trank whill, getting their

1253
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: linebackers matched up on the linebackers. Those are those are

1254
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: run stuff in linebackers. And Josh Allen is a guy.

1255
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: I mean they got him down three times, but he's

1256
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: so tough man because at six six, two fifty five,

1257
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: he gonna break contain and even when you think you

1258
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: got him, he gonna do something. He you know, he's

1259
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: a magician with the ball. He's he's man. I root

1260
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: the days that he was supposed to be in Denver

1261
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: and we took We took Brandley Cubb over Josh Allen.

1262
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 3: Well he could have been in Denver. Huh yep, Damn,

1263
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 3: that's crazy. I mean I think, I think if you

1264
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 3: can go back and do the draft, there are a

1265
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 3: lot of teams that regret some of the players they

1266
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 3: take they've taken. But my thing is, Ojo, we needed

1267
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 3: a quarterback? Why would you? You don't?

1268
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 1: Never I get it. You wanted to pair a Banda

1269
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 1: with von Miller. I'm not you need a quarterback without him?

1270
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: I don't give a damn. Who are you pair with

1271
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 1: von Miller? You compare a past certain with von Miller

1272
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: without a quarterback, You're not going nowhere?

1273
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 4: Who is a quarterback that year where they chose Bradley

1274
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 4: Chubb instead of going to get a quarterback?

1275
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 3: Oh man, please, who was it? It must have been somebody,

1276
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 3: whether the guy from Northwestern mhm.

1277
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: You know what.

1278
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 4: Also when that when that draft happened, you know, gms

1279
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 4: and scouts, they didn't really think Josh Allen would be

1280
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 4: who Josh Allen is now.

1281
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 3: He was a project. He was listed as a project.

1282
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 4: If they if they knew he would have turned out

1283
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 4: to be what he is now, or they wouldn't have hesitated. Man,

1284
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 4: they wouldn't hesitate it.

1285
01:02:58,560 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 3: But you just didn't know.

1286
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: Case Keenum. We had Case Keenum the tournament. Case Keenum

1287
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 1: been with the Taxans, he had been with the Viking.

1288
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: He been with like several teams. And you pass, you

1289
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: thought Case Keenum, you thought Case Keenum.

1290
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 3: Hold on.

1291
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 4: But you know, remember we talked about talk about identity, right, Yes,

1292
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 4: your identity was on defense back then during the time

1293
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Speaker 4: you speaking of the identity was defense. So your office

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01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 4: was gonna carry you because it wasn't no quarterback.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna get that. It wasn't. No, it wasn't no

1296
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 3: Peyton manning out there.

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Speaker 1: No, but you got to have a quarterback. I don't

1298
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 1: care how good your defense is, you don't got no quarterback.

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01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 1: It ain't happening.

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Speaker 3: Y'all had a great defense in Baltimore. Yes, you just

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01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 3: need a quarterback that can't turn the ball over.

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Speaker 1: Oh yo, they don't allow you to play like that.

1303
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 1: That was twenty years ago. You're not winning a Super

1304
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: Bowl playing that style of football. First of all, the

1305
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 1: rules prohibited the incidental contact, the rough in the passer.

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Speaker 1: The defensives receiver.

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Speaker 3: Ain't none of that. Yeah, they deterred that now. But

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Speaker 3: I'm saying a defense that good, the Bronco defense that

1309
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 3: that year, no, no flies on, no flies on Bronco.

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Speaker 3: They were gone.

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Speaker 1: Then there was no there was no more DeMarcus where

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Speaker 1: there was no more All those those guys were gone.

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Speaker 3: Okay, no you have to and you get an opportunity

1314
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Speaker 3: to get a quarterback. Yeah, you take them. You got you.

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Speaker 3: That's a fifteen year guy. You plug you in. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: you don't know. He's a fifteen year guy. On let

1317
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 3: me ask you a question.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say, for the sake of argument, even as

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Speaker 1: great as great as Aaron Donald was, he didn't win

1320
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 1: no championship until they got Matthew Stafford. Three time Defensive

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01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: Player of the Year, eight nine times First Team All Pro,

1322
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 1: one of the greatest defensive players ever. It took a

1323
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 1: quarterback without him.

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Speaker 3: You're not doing