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Speaker 2: Now you just want to sing it ourselves?

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Speaker 2: One of the singers here that scared me a little bit.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast called twenty five Wist talking sports

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Speaker 1: and they are wearing a whist. So, yeah, it's too bad.

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Speaker 3: But what did you expect.

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Speaker 2: It's a podcast called twenty five Whist Souls. Hello, Eddy,

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Speaker 2: welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: That was so good.

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Speaker 2: All right, John Middlecoff coming up a little bit. We

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Speaker 2: talked a lot of football, made some notes from over

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Speaker 2: the weekend, and there's a lot to talk about. But

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Speaker 2: I want to start with Caylen Clark. I've watched all

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Speaker 2: three games.

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Speaker 3: Dang, really, that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I would, I would get a jersey. I've watched all

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Speaker 2: three games I've got, I've got a lot to say.

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Speaker 2: He's piss me off.

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Speaker 3: So what's going on? Man? Is it the coach?

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Speaker 2: No, the brisket ball? She was drafted to the worst

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Speaker 3: Right, Sure, they got the first pick.

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Speaker 2: Right. She's making passes that I don't know. I guess

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Speaker 2: they don't play basket. The other girls in her play basketball.

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Speaker 2: I mean, she's dropping dimes and they just aren't catching

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Speaker 2: the ball. It's crazy some of the she's getting turned

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Speaker 2: over some of these plays. Okay, so here's here's here

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Speaker 2: you go. I'm gonna give you guys some numbers here

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Speaker 2: because they're acting like that she's not any good. She's

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Speaker 2: really struggled through three games. Let me just do a

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Speaker 2: I'm going.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: The NBA Rookie of the Year this year was.

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Speaker 1: Who is when Kaitlan Clark is wimby NBAA Clark played

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Speaker 1: three games.

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Speaker 3: I missed the w part of this.

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Speaker 2: Whm bin Yama got it? Okay, so game one when

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Speaker 2: beIN Yama NBA, he's a rookie of the year right.

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Speaker 2: He had fifteen points, five rebounds to assists. Game one.

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Speaker 2: Nobody was crying Wimby sucks. We can't believe Wimby's Whimby's terrible.

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Speaker 2: He only scored fifteen. He only went fifteen to five

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Speaker 2: and two. Caitlyn Clark's first game twenty points, three assists,

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Speaker 2: no rebounds. Okay, I would say those are pretty comparable.

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Speaker 2: Game two Wimby twenty one points, twelve rebounds, one assist.

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Speaker 2: Game two for Kaitlyn Clark uh seven rebounds from zero,

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Speaker 2: so she had a nine to seven to six line,

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Speaker 2: not as many points, but went up in rebounds and assists.

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Speaker 2: Game three Wimby eleven points, five rebounds to assist. Game

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Speaker 2: three for Kaitlin Clark twenty two points, eight rebounds, eight

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Speaker 3: Different position, though.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't matter. They weren't screaming Wimby sucks. There's all this

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Speaker 2: pressure on Kaitlyn Clark to like own the league in

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Speaker 2: such a way that like Diana Trosso whatever was like

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Speaker 2: she's she's gonna have to meet real women when she

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Speaker 2: plays at WNBA. She's still better than all of them.

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Speaker 2: They have to take their entire defense and focus on

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Speaker 2: Kaitlin Clark, and that's what they do. They blitz her

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Speaker 2: eighty percent of time when she gets the ball and

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Speaker 3: I was gonna talk to you for saying hold.

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Speaker 2: On, I got more to say. She played the Liberty

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Speaker 2: in game three. Watch the whole game they got to

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Speaker 2: Liberty were talking about how they sold the game out

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Speaker 2: because people are loving the product of the WNBA. Check

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Speaker 2: back the next WNBA game when Kaitlin Clark's not there.

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Speaker 2: Not once did they say it was because Kaitlin Clark was.

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Speaker 2: They not one time gave her any sort of her

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Speaker 2: There are some good players, but the Indiana Fever, they're awful.

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Speaker 3: They're terrible.

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Speaker 2: And the fact that Kateln Clark can average eighteen through

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Speaker 2: her first three games whenever the entire defense they're building

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Speaker 2: wild to see these people still hate on her, people

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Speaker 2: subtweeting her whenever. The reason that the numbers are up

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Speaker 2: butts in seats highest WNBA games. It's like the Old

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Speaker 2: first game they call two fouls super quick on her ticket,

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Speaker 2: tack fouls that had had to sit at the bench, Like,

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Speaker 2: what are they doing? And the fact that these other

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Speaker 2: women are hating on her, They're costing themselves money. Why

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Speaker 2: do you think they're getting a fly private now because

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Speaker 2: there's a transcendent star that is now in the league.

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Speaker 2: That league loses so much money. The WAA makes no money.

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Speaker 2: They lose money. They lose money hand over fist that

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Speaker 2: NBA pays for the WNBA to do anything. That's why

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Speaker 2: they don't make high salaries. Hopefully that's not always the case.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully Kittlin Clark is able to transcend into people like

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Speaker 2: me watching games and following along. I watched three games.

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Speaker 2: I've never seen three w big games in my life. Never.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy, you're watching all this.

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Speaker 2: Can't wait, can't wait for the next one. I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to find where the ion channel is. I don't even

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Speaker 3: They have one Ion Cosby show we run now it's

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Speaker 3: like forensic files, a lot of forensic files.

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Speaker 2: But it's all these other players constantly too, like just

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Speaker 2: but it's about, well, this player deserves to be the

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Speaker 2: rocket ship. You need to make sure that you're not

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Speaker 2: can put to shine on other people too, but she

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Speaker 2: is what's going to get people that haven't been fans

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Speaker 2: the fact that they're not like embracing that is wild

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Speaker 2: to me. The Liberty had a press conference like we

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Speaker 2: had two million, No, Kaitlin Clark had two million dollars,

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Speaker 2: And even the announcers during the game they were like, well,

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Speaker 2: we got to tell you, it's like eighty percent Liberty

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Speaker 2: Liberty who made the players. Even Liberty fans wanted to

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Speaker 2: underneath his hoodie, like when you finally get that Michael

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Speaker 2: to minimize them. It's what I've never seen a company,

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Speaker 2: well I haven't been on the interworkings of many companies,

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Speaker 2: but try to shoot themselves in the foot. So that's

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Speaker 1: Do you think they're not realizing they're doing this or

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Speaker 1: what do you think they're in They're jealous, They're jealous,

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Speaker 1: but well, what's the jealousy. She's helping everyone around her.

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Speaker 2: But again, they're jealous because they think there are better

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Speaker 2: players that she just came from college. She doesn't deserve

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Speaker 2: abcdefg all the eyes on her, she never won a

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Speaker 5: You would think that the front office would be like, hey, guys,

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Speaker 5: cool down, like this.

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Speaker 2: Is really good for us. If I were the WNBA

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Speaker 2: commissioner after that first game where that stupid ref gives

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Speaker 2: her two tiki tak fouls at the beginning of her

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Speaker 2: you need those fans. And I'm not saying if she fouls,

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Speaker 2: a good call. Ref. We enjoy a good, fair, honest game,

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Speaker 2: and we're on your side if it's if we got

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Speaker 2: to put no NBA. There's a reason the NBA is

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Speaker 6: That is a thing.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeh, people, it's a business. It's not the freaking Olympics,

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Speaker 2: and you want it to maintain. Uh, it's honesty and

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Speaker 2: you wanted to, but at the same time, you got

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Speaker 2: to find that line of it. It's also a business.

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Speaker 2: It's why every team doesn't get put in primetime games

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Speaker 2: an equal amount. It's not We're not Russia, it's not communists.

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Speaker 2: Everybody doesn't get equal So I was just watching the

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Speaker 2: ESPN people just go to town on on how the

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Speaker 2: Liberty have just built their fan base. I'm like, you

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Speaker 2: guys are out of your mind this. If Kaitlin Clark

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Speaker 5: See I saw that story. I had no idea they

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Speaker 5: even played Kaitlin Clark exactly. I didn't know fl for

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Speaker 2: They need to protect the franchise. Ye And also again, people,

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Speaker 2: I guess Kaylin Clark's not that good. You're out of

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Speaker 2: your mind. They're scheming their entire defense to stop just

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Speaker 6: What are you saying?

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Speaker 3: Now you know exactly what he's saying.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, that's my Caitlin Clark monologue.

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Speaker 3: You're really in this. I'm ready to do.

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Speaker 2: I told you I'll look for Eyeon. Yeah, and now

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Speaker 2: all that's doing is making me route for her even more.

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Speaker 2: I don't even care about I don't I have no

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Speaker 2: I watched Caitlin Clark play in college a few times.

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Speaker 2: She changed that. I never went to watch unless it

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Speaker 2: was an Arkansas Raised By women's basketball game or like

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Speaker 2: once South Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Is Sadikas the one that was there in all the

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Speaker 1: Iowa game. I was getting him and Bateman mixed up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's fair.

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Speaker 2: I was for good both white guys.

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Speaker 1: Ted laslu is the only way I can know it's Sadekas.

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Speaker 2: I never thought Sadaka's was that funny until ted lasts.

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Speaker 2: So he's just so generic looking, but I never assigned

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Speaker 2: him with being like somebody that's super funny. He is

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Speaker 2: super funny, but he's so generically just a white dude

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Speaker 2: you shouldn't be that funny. And he's not so good

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Speaker 2: looking that you're like, like, for example, Matt Rife, when

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Speaker 2: people start to love Hi, matt yf he's a really

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Speaker 2: good looking guy, and you're like, and he's funny, that's weird.

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Speaker 2: A good look, really good looking guy's funny. Good Looking

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Speaker 2: people are either really ugly or really funny, rarely in

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Speaker 2: the middle, and when they are, you kind of lose them.

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Speaker 2: Who are other middle looking funny dudes.

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Speaker 6: You think it's because it's unrelatable.

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Speaker 2: No, I think you just get lost in the mix.

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Speaker 3: I think Ryan Goslin's kind of funny.

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Speaker 2: Ryan Goslin's great looking.

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Speaker 3: He's great looking, but he's.

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Speaker 2: Also not a comedian.

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Speaker 3: But it's just weird.

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Speaker 2: Is really funny. But also but he's not even known

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Speaker 2: for that, but yes, he's really good looking. Think about

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Speaker 2: people that are known for being funny. It's there are

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Speaker 2: I love that in California.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and he was that he was at my hometown bar.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fun. You say anything too now he talk

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, Caitlyn Clark.

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Speaker 2: No similar though. I'm watching the Knicks and the Pacers yesterday.

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Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, it's wild.

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Speaker 2: They did not want the next one. And I get it.

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Speaker 3: No, that's true always.

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Speaker 6: You're in New York cater.

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Speaker 2: I'm a New York cater for sure. Nice just because

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Speaker 2: I'm not even a Kaitlyn Clark person.

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Speaker 2: She don't deserve it.

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Speaker 3: We're back, baby out.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy for you because because you're still in the

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I'm sorry about that. Yeah, big Oklahoma City fan.

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Speaker 3: It's family.

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Speaker 2: I'm a fan. It's Caitlyn's favorite team I have. I

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Speaker 3: But he played great too, by the way, Yeah, he

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Speaker 2: The other Janla Williams, the one who gets most of

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Speaker 3: That have a very good series. Not that serious.

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Speaker 1: No, no, hey, can you explain something to me though,

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Speaker 1: How does this happen? Because when my kids play their teams,

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Speaker 2: And that's a funny question to ask, because there really

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Speaker 1: Exactly, So I don't know, like Jamal Murray can shoot

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Speaker 2: And how lucky was he not to get kicked out

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Speaker 2: I have a Scottie Scheffler note that I wrote when

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Speaker 3: He like it's not over for him, right, like it's over.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna drop charges.

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Speaker 3: Oh they are?

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Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, I knew they were announcing they were

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Speaker 1: Did they ever explain exactly what happened, Like did somebody

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Speaker 2: Where I think the confusion was there was that accident

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Speaker 3: What stop? Like it is?

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Speaker 2: I know, a drag feels weird because what they kept

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Speaker 2: The cops just like yo yo, yo yo, hold on

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Speaker 1: I mean, dude goes to jail, makes his tea time,

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Speaker 2: Probably got to on that next day though. You know

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Speaker 2: The second day is what got him. The fourth day,

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Speaker 1: Never did I ever think the Scottie Shuffler is a tough,

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Speaker 1: I asked the cop.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you thought, so, will you come sit with me

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Speaker 3: and talk to her? Like, bro, you're just that I

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Speaker 2: I didn't feel like he was like that.

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Speaker 3: I felt like he was just like, don't say that.

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Speaker 3: Don't say that trying.

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Speaker 2: To tell your wife.

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Speaker 6: Don't don't tell the world that, dude.

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Speaker 3: I asked the cop to come, will you come talk

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Speaker 2: Just impression. I asked the cop to come sit with me.

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Speaker 1: No, No, like I would make up stories like yeah, man,

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Speaker 2: Built a shank in like six minutes and like community

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Weird story though, Uh yeah. And you saw like TikTok

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Speaker 3: Did they get you with the headline when it all started.

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Speaker 2: No, because I slept in because we flew into back

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Speaker 1: Due the morning headline was Scottie Scheffler arrested one dead.

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Speaker 2: No way before you knew what they did that purpose.

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Speaker 2: That's so stupid.

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Speaker 2: I would have clicked. That's a pretty good one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: talk with John Middlecoff. Love the guy. I'm a big

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Speaker 2: fan of his podcast. John's a former NFL scout who

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Speaker 2: worked under how I Roseman and Andy Reid and Philadelphia

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Speaker 2: back in the day. He has a podcast called Three

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Speaker 2: also on Collin Cowhart's podcast network, A Super Smart Football Guy.

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Speaker 2: I listened to a show all the time on Twitter

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Speaker 2: and Instagram at John Middlecoff. Here he is on Right

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Speaker 2: Now with John Middlecoff, who does one of my favorite podcasts,

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Speaker 2: the Three and Out Podcast. I've listened to you talk

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Speaker 2: about the draft many times, but I haven't been able

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Speaker 2: to ask these specific questions for our audience. So I

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Speaker 2: do want to start John with the Falcons and how

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Speaker 2: do you feel now just weeks out instead of the

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Speaker 2: day out after they go and they take Panics in

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Speaker 2: the first round.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I it's hard to get over, to

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Speaker 4: be honest with you, because part of the a front office,

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Speaker 4: and you know a GM a coach is balancing the

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Speaker 4: near and the far right. So you always got to

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Speaker 4: be thinking about the future. And Cousins is thirty six

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Speaker 4: years old and or his achilles last year against the Packers.

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Speaker 4: But you only have so many resources. This is not baseball, right,

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Speaker 4: This is everyone is on an even playing field. Everyone

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Speaker 4: has the same amount of money, and everyone has the

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Speaker 4: same amount of draft picks, and then you just get

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Speaker 4: to choose how you allocate them. Like, think about the Browns.

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Speaker 4: They haven't had first round picks because they chose to

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Speaker 4: trade for Deshaun Watson and then give him a huge

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Speaker 4: amount of money. So the moment you invest in Kirk Cousins,

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Speaker 4: you are living in the present for the next couple

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Speaker 4: of years. So to use that pick on a quarterback,

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Speaker 4: it'd be one thing if he was a major project

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Speaker 4: and a guy that needed a lot of work. He's

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Speaker 4: a twenty three to twenty four year old, basically six

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Speaker 4: year starter who's kind of ready made. So I just

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Speaker 4: I can't fathom the logic behind it. And the other

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Speaker 4: thing is they are locker room dynamics at play, right.

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Speaker 4: So if if someone hired the next DJ podcaster who

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Speaker 4: was way younger, to a lot of money, not as

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Speaker 4: much money as you're making, but a lot of money,

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Speaker 4: and told this guy's the next guy, well, your crew

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Speaker 4: and people, it just it would not facilitate I would

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Speaker 4: say healthy locker room dynamics. And the kirk Cousins can't

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Speaker 4: practice during OTAs, so who is out there taking all

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Speaker 4: the reps? Michael Pennox, Well, they don't have a veteran

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Speaker 4: leadent team. They have a bunch of young guys, So

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Speaker 4: I just think it's going to be weird. Now, winning

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Speaker 4: cures all so if they win, no one will care.

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Speaker 4: But they didn't exactly just sign Tom Brady, right, this

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Speaker 4: guy doesn't have a long track record of winning at

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Speaker 4: a high level. So it's just very weird. It really is.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to say unprecedented, because we've seen teams

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Speaker 4: draft quarterbacks, but when Patrick Mahomes was he was going

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Speaker 4: to get a red shirt year and then if it

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Speaker 4: went well, they were going to transition. And they did

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Speaker 4: it right. JJ McCarthy, the Michigan quarterback drafted to Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: They have a bridge quarterback in Sam Darnold, and then

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Speaker 4: you can transition Drake May with the Patriots Jacoby Brissett

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Speaker 4: bridge transition. That one hundred million dollars for multiple seasons

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Speaker 4: is not exactly a bridge situation. So to me, these

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Speaker 4: are not robots. These are human beings. And I don't

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Speaker 4: care what business or industry you're in when you kind

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Speaker 4: of like, I don't want to say they set up

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Speaker 4: for a divide, but the divide is very very possible,

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Speaker 4: especially with young influential people, which they have a lot

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Speaker 4: of young influential players So.

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Speaker 2: A couple thoughts off of that. With Atlanta, you have

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Speaker 2: a coach that's that's been caught without a quarterback, right,

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Speaker 2: and so a little bit is you just trying to

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Speaker 2: make sure that he has at least a quarterback? And

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Speaker 2: then two is there maybe do we not know how

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Speaker 2: that injury is healing with Kirk Cousins. I mean, could

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Speaker 2: that be a factor as well?

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Speaker 4: I mean Cousins says he's fine and he'll be ready

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Speaker 4: to go week one. Obviously, I would say when we

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Speaker 4: were younger, an Achilles injury in sports would derail your career.

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Speaker 4: I think with modern medicine in twenty twenty four, it's

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Speaker 4: pretty clear this is not a Dan Marino situation. And Cousins,

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Speaker 4: unlike Rodgers, is a player that never had to scramble around,

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Speaker 4: so he, in theory, should transition better. But to me,

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Speaker 4: the moment you signed him to that contract, you do

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Speaker 4: a pretty intensive physical and would have a pretty good

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Speaker 4: idea of where he stood in terms of the injury

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Speaker 4: trajectory of the return. And yeah, I hear what you're

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Speaker 4: saying about Raheem Morris, but I also think it I

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Speaker 4: think it would be easier with a older veteran coach

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Speaker 4: that has a long tenure as running the show back

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Speaker 4: to the locker room dynamics, and I know Rahiem's a

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Speaker 4: good guy and everyone loves him. I just think things

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Speaker 4: could get weird fast.

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Speaker 2: Bo Knicks has been getting very positive reports coming from practice,

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Speaker 2: but who doesn't but bo Knicks in that system. Listen,

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Speaker 2: we were hearing about even before the draft that he

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Speaker 2: would be perfect for Denver and what he wanted in

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Speaker 2: a quarterback, and it turns out that's where he ends

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Speaker 2: up going. Are we just is it normal to get

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Speaker 2: such positive reports back about any quarterback at this point?

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Speaker 2: And do you feel like Bonnicks could just kind of

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Speaker 2: pop in and be the next JV Drew Brees Well.

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Speaker 4: I think there's two things. I don't think you can

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Speaker 4: put too much stock into shorts and T shirts in

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Speaker 4: the spring. If it's negative, you got a problem. And

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Speaker 4: even if it's negative, it doesn't mean that much. If

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Speaker 4: you remember back when Jamar Chase was drafted by the Bengals,

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Speaker 4: he dropped everything in practice, I would say that worked

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Speaker 4: out pretty well. Jamar Chase can catch, so one element

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Speaker 4: of this is his the biggest proponent in backer in

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Speaker 4: the building is the head coach who's on a ninety

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Speaker 4: million dollar contract, so it's going to be very positive.

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Speaker 4: I would say this. I went back after he was

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Speaker 4: drafted and just kind of spent like a five minute

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Speaker 4: YouTube page just looking at his some of his throws,

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Speaker 4: and he kind of reminded me of Derek Carr and

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Speaker 4: Jimmy Garoppolo when they were coming out. Now, they were

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Speaker 4: small school guys. Derek went to Fresdent State and Jimmy

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Speaker 4: went to Southern, Northern, Western Eastern Illinois one of those schools,

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Speaker 4: and both those guys have had very you know, productive

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Speaker 4: careers when they've been with a good coach. So I

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Speaker 4: would say that Bo Nix gets to go with a

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Speaker 4: guy that has a lot of success calling offenses. His

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Speaker 4: head coach is the offensive coordinator, and his offense is

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Speaker 4: predicated on getting rid of the ball fast and it's

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Speaker 4: not really a you know, bomb at down the field

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Speaker 4: Andy Reid offense. So I would say, yeah, it has

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Speaker 4: a chance to be much more successful, I think than

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Speaker 4: people said because historically a guy like Bo Knicks, Derek Carr,

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Speaker 4: Jimmy Garoppolo goes somewhere thirty five to fifty five range. Well,

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Speaker 4: like society, inflation with quarterbacks is a real thing. And

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Speaker 4: I would say ever since the Josh Allen, the Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 4: those type got Herbert have hit. Herbert was a better

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Speaker 4: prospect coming out of college than the other two. But

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Speaker 4: teams swing for the fences, and if you want to

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Speaker 4: get these guys, you have to quote unquote overpay. It's

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Speaker 4: just the reality of life. And you know, they didn't

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Speaker 4: have a second round pick. You know, I think most

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Speaker 4: people around the NFL would say that's pretty high to

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Speaker 4: draft bo Nicks. But I think when you look at

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Speaker 4: what John Payton's looking for, I think when you factor in,

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Speaker 4: it's like, hey, I didn't love paying that much for

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Speaker 4: that house, but I needed a place to live. Like,

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Speaker 4: they don't have a quarterback, so they had to get

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Speaker 4: a quarterback. And I think they were lucky enough to know,

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Speaker 4: you know, Michael Pennix was definitely a curve ball, but

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Speaker 4: other than that, bow Knicks was going to be sitting

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Speaker 4: there for him, like he was now going to be

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Speaker 4: off the board when they picked, so they didn't have

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Speaker 4: to trade up. They got a quarterback their coach likes,

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Speaker 4: and like Pennix, like Caleb Williams, you know bo Nix

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Speaker 4: has been starting for twenty five years in college. You

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Speaker 4: just put, I don't know if he's going to be

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Speaker 4: good in the pros or not, but he's not some

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Speaker 4: project and you can just play him right away. And

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Speaker 4: I think the way we talk about Denver, and I'm

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Speaker 4: probably guilty of this too, we act like they won

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Speaker 4: two games. I mean, they were pretty much more competitive

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Speaker 4: down the stretch than we give them credit for. I

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Speaker 4: think either. I think they won seven, maybe eight games,

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Speaker 4: So it's not like they are some awful operation. And

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Speaker 4: they clearly were ready to transition out of the Russell

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Speaker 4: Wilson situation. The only way you can transition out of

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Speaker 4: that because they had to eat. I mean, it's well

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Speaker 4: documented now A ton of money by cutting him is

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Speaker 4: to get a guy on a rookie contract. It helps

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Speaker 4: make the transition pretty I guess, much easier, especially if

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Speaker 4: he turns out to be a solid starter. So I'm

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Speaker 4: actually pretty bullish on bo Nicks and Sean Payton. Not

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Speaker 4: like they're gonna make the playoffs next year, but I

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Speaker 4: wonder if it's gonna work. I actually think it's gonna

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Speaker 4: work a lot better than just your average person that

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Speaker 4: talks about sports is like, oh, that's a terrible draft pick.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Sean Payton. And you know, Russ had a

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Speaker 2: pretty good year last year considering what he had come

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Speaker 2: from previously. How's he gonna do in Pittsburgh and what's

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Speaker 2: up with justin fields like his? Field's gonna be a

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Speaker 2: package player at all?

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Speaker 4: I think the hard part about once you move as

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Speaker 4: a player. And Cousins is a little like this too,

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Speaker 4: But he's they've invested so much money into you, you

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Speaker 4: know in pro sports, how much money I'm paying you

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Speaker 4: when you're not my drafted player kind of buys my loyalty.

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Speaker 4: He has no loyalty there, just on the simple fact

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Speaker 4: that they're giving him a million dollars a year. They

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Speaker 4: didn't have to pay him any money. So Russell Wilson

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Speaker 4: hasn't been good for a while now and at a

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Speaker 4: million dollar threshold for what he has to do to

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Speaker 4: make it worth you playing him. But Pittsburgh schedule is hard,

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Speaker 4: their divisions hard. The AFC is difficult if he's dinking

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Speaker 4: and dunking it. To me, his equity in that franchise

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Speaker 4: and with Mike Tomlin is very very small. In the

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Speaker 4: NFL is a place where the fan base has a

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Speaker 4: lot of juice because the owners watch the shows, and

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Speaker 4: they listen to the radio and the podcast, and they

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Speaker 4: know what's going on. And the Rooney family has watched

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Speaker 4: this long enough to know if you're not winning with

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Speaker 4: this guy early on, like you don't have you can't

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Speaker 4: start two and four and feel good about your playoff

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Speaker 4: chances that there's an extra team now with the expanded playoffs.

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Speaker 4: But still it's they got a little lucky last year,

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Speaker 4: you know, sneaking in at the end. Sure, I just

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Speaker 4: think people are going to be clamoring for just Hey,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if this guy's good or not, but

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Speaker 4: can we just see what Justin Fields has. Can we

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Speaker 4: put them with our offensive weapons and this new kind

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Speaker 4: of add two offensive line and see if we can

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Speaker 4: make him a good player? We just Arthur Smith, the

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Speaker 4: former Titans coach, is now their offensive or offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 4: is their new offensive coordinator. And while it didn't go

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Speaker 4: well for him in Atlanta, I mean you were there.

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Speaker 4: I mean it was what he did with Ryan Tannehill,

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Speaker 4: like he worked wonders. He deserved to get a shot

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Speaker 4: as a head coach. So I think if it starts slow,

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Speaker 4: for Russell Wilson, people are gonna want to see justin fields.

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Speaker 4: The other thing with the justin fields playing a different

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Speaker 4: position the new kickoff rule, because everyone is like five

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Speaker 4: yards apart. It's actually much more like an offensive play,

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Speaker 4: but even easier because if you bust a big run.

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Speaker 4: Let's say, if he's the quarterback and busts a forty

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Speaker 4: yard run, there are people at multiple levels. Right, you

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Speaker 4: have a defensive line, then you have linebackers behind them,

651
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Speaker 4: and then you have like safeties and dbs behind them.

652
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 4: This new kickoff rule, beside the kicker who's way back,

653
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 4: everyone is kind of at the same line, so you

654
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 4: don't need to make everyone miss. You might just have

655
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 4: to make a couple guys miss. So I think one

656
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 4: of their players, Jalen Warren, the running back, mentioned on

657
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 4: a podcast that you know, our special teams coach made

658
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 4: a joke about putting him back there, which would be

659
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 4: absurd in the normal kickoff because of injury and stuff.

660
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 4: But I don't know if you're gonna take these crazy shots,

661
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 4: and I wonder if actually he'd be pretty Taylor may

662
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 4: just like a lot of sweet offensive players, uh are

663
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 4: really fast, Like if you put Lamar Jackson back there.

664
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 4: You can't do it because of injury. You don't need

665
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 4: to make seven guys miss. You might just need to

666
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 4: hit a whole, break one tackle or juke one guy

667
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 4: and you're off to the races.

668
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: Have you watched much of the XFL or you know,

669
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 2: when they took the new kickoff rules that they're gonna

670
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: put in the NFL next year. Do they ever drop

671
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 2: back and have layers? Because you know, we just picture

672
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: like on side kick version, everybody rushes, But do they

673
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 2: do some of the guys drop back, like linebackers and

674
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: safeties just to make sure in case that first level's broken.

675
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 4: I've just seen a couple of clips online and it

676
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 4: was all basically guys going forward. I do think in

677
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,239
Speaker 4: the NFL you are going to have to have two

678
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 4: or three guys immediately kind of go to the hash

679
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,479
Speaker 4: marks or go outside to the numbers to be a

680
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 4: safety valve. And if you don't do that immediately and

681
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 4: someone breaks a big run, I think that will change quickly.

682
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 4: I've watched a lot of press conferences, you know, the

683
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 4: first couple of weeks of rookie mini camps, and you know,

684
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 4: the coordinators talk and I think they all say the

685
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 4: same thing. They're all just messing with this. They're all

686
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 4: just trying different things. And the hard part about football,

687
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 4: unlike all these other sports, is you can't really manipulate

688
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 4: it until pads come on, and in the spring, pads

689
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 4: don't come on. So I'm sure all these teams are

690
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 4: doing different walkthroughs and you know, kind of fifty percent setups,

691
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 4: But until even training camp, do you want to tackle

692
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 4: your own guys? I would say these preseason games, which

693
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 4: have never meant less because no one plays their starters.

694
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:08,479
Speaker 4: The number one thing, beside like evaluating young players on

695
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 4: your own team, teams are going to be kind of

696
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 4: locking into is trying different things out with this kickoff rule.

697
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 4: For sure, it.

698
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: Feels a bit like stand up, Like I can't practice

699
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: a joke to myself. If I'm touring doing stand up,

700
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: I can't practice joke to myself. I can't practice a

701
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: joke to really one person. If I'm doing music, I

702
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: can practice playing guitar, I can do the muscle memory,

703
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: but I don't know if a joke works until I

704
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: get it out in front of actual people and feel

705
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: what happens when I NOTT. It feels a bit like

706
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: what this kickoff rule is going to be? Like, We're

707
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: really not gonna know until we have to really see

708
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: it happen live and in real time.

709
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 4: That's the thing with football. It's a lot like going

710
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 4: to the driving range. There's nothing like being on the

711
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 4: course and being like, Okay, this is not working. You

712
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 4: can practice it, you can rep it in preseason games,

713
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,959
Speaker 4: but we all know the regular season feels dramatically different.

714
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 4: The level of talent on the field is dramatically different.

715
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 4: Sean Payton a couple of weeks ago, he thinks they

716
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 4: are going to be some crazy explosive place that he

717
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 4: thinks they're definitely going to be, you know, touchdowns and

718
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 4: plays that just weren't happening. I mean, part of the

719
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 4: reason they changed the rule is because you didn't need

720
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 4: to watch the kickoff anymore because teams, you know, I

721
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 4: think in the Super Bowl every kick went out of

722
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 4: bounce there there wasn't a return. I think it was

723
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 4: like twelve or twelve or thirteen for thirteen. And you know,

724
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 4: it's one thing years ago Belichick fought for with the

725
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 4: pat that like kicking snapping the ball from the two

726
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 4: yard line on a pat it was I mean close

727
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 4: to one hundred percent. When someone missed the old pat,

728
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 4: it was like, oh, Mike, what an awful kick. Now

729
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 4: it's still not you know, it's not fifty to fifty,

730
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 4: but it's closer to ninety percent, where there is just

731
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 4: a variable if your kickers, you know, kind of in

732
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 4: shambles or had missed some field goals. You're kind of

733
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 4: holding your breath after you score a touchdown, you know,

734
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 4: on the PAT. So I think the NFL, let's face it,

735
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 4: they had to change the rules because they got sued

736
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 4: for the CT and the concussion. So they've made the

737
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 4: violence of the game a lot different, which I grew up,

738
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 4: you know, in the nineties when it was a really

739
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 4: violent game, and there are aspects of that I definitely miss.

740
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 4: But they have tried to add some elements to make

741
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 4: the game a little more entertaining. And I do think

742
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 4: this is going to add a high level of entertainment.

743
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 4: And like you said, I don't think you can practice

744
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 4: it nearly well enough because of the rules in practice

745
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 4: to simulate what you're gonna see, not just in a

746
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 4: preseason game, but in again, let's say you're playing the

747
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 4: forty nine ers and they put Christian McCaffrey back there,

748
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 4: you know, or you're playing the Miami Dolphins and they

749
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 4: put Tyreek Hill back there. Right, it's not some practice

750
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 4: squad guy that you've been repping against in practice, So

751
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 4: it's very very It'd be like doing stand up comedy

752
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 4: and following like, hey, Dave Chappelle just played, Now is

753
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 4: up Bobby Bumps? Like good luck?

754
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 2: The Netflix is you're gonna have Christmas Day games? Do

755
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 2: we know the cruise are going to be? Like what

756
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: are they gonna do for that?

757
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 4: My guess is they are going to try to like

758
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 4: outsource it to one of the main networks because anyone,

759
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 4: you know, I guess the average fan might not know this,

760
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 4: but like when these teams or when these Fox or

761
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 4: CBS or NBC, it's ten trucks, So do they have

762
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 4: the infrastructure? Now? Financially, Netflix can easily purchase that. But

763
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 4: my gut would say it has not been announced, is

764
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 4: they would just outsource it to one of the major

765
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 4: networks and pay for their crews. But who knows. You know,

766
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 4: by by December, all the buys are done, so everyone's playing.

767
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 4: They might not have extra guys. I guess you could

768
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 4: use some college crews, but I'd be a little stunned.

769
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 4: Stunned would be strong. I guess I'd be a little

770
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 4: surprised if they're just two random guys that don't typically

771
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 4: do NFL games, Because part of this is, I don't

772
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 4: know where you stand on this, like this is the future,

773
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 4: Like this is not They're not just doing this to

774
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 4: try to get richer, even though they technically are because

775
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 4: Netflix is buying this. Think how much times have changed

776
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 4: in ten years with what we you know, consume watching,

777
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 4: the way we listen to stuff. You know, I just

778
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 4: went for a walk. I didn't bring my walkman, I

779
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 4: listened to a podcast, you know. So like it's no

780
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 4: different with streaming and Peacock with the NFL. Everyone pushes

781
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 4: back on that, like, guys, you know, the NBC as

782
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 4: we knew it in the nineties and the eighties and

783
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 4: the two thousand, like that's not going to exist as

784
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 4: currently constructed now. So the NFL is just looking forward

785
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 4: and guess what if this goes well, which I'm sure

786
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 4: it will on Netflix in five years, there might just

787
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 4: be oh, every Sunday at one o'clock, one of the

788
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 4: games is on Netflix, and the natural reaction on social

789
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 4: media will be like, this is crazy. I don't know

790
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 4: about you. When I get in bed, usually the first thing,

791
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 4: you know, especially if she has the remote she clicks on,

792
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 4: is Netflix, so it's not very difficult to access. And

793
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 4: I just think that this is not like where we're headed.

794
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 4: We're kind of already there. It's just within five years,

795
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 4: I think most of these games are going to be

796
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 4: on some sort of streaming platform.

797
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

798
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 2: I can't tell you the last time I watched either

799
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: linear television or listen to something that wasn't on demand,

800
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 2: like a podcast.

801
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 3: No.

802
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 2: I mean that's just if you're forty years below, I'm

803
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: assuming that's pretty much all you do. And so what

804
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: was your first year in radio seventeen? So we're looking

805
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 2: at like ninety seven.

806
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 4: And the power of that platform. There was nothing like it.

807
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: It was a monster and it was the only and

808
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 2: now it's like it's so split into Sure, there's the

809
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 2: live version, but if everything I do is not available

810
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: on demand all the time for everybody in nine different places,

811
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 2: then you know there's a massive part of my audience

812
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: that only lives there. I have people that only know

813
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 2: this show through watching it on TikTok videos. So the

814
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: medium whatever that is, is completely different, and yeah, it's

815
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: gonna happen to sports too.

816
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 4: Well, you know how I consume you is when you

817
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 4: have big country artists in studio. I don't know where

818
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 4: else to find it but YouTube. That's where I just

819
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 4: watched you had a Luke Combs interview I think last

820
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 4: week or I saw it on YouTube for the first

821
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 4: time last week, and I can assume you on YouTube.

822
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 4: Well YouTube's exist for a while, but let's face it,

823
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 4: the power of it, I would say, over the last

824
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 4: five years, has dramatically jumped. And I watch sports for

825
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 4: a living and I'm someone that cut the cord. Yeah,

826
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 4: me too, and I have YouTube TV, And obviously it's

827
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 4: a lot different than having whatever your local cable company is,

828
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 4: Cox or whatever, because you don't you know before you

829
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 4: would get on the guide, right, and at least I would,

830
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 4: and you would stumble upon movies and stuff like I

831
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 4: don't really stumble upon anything anymore. I know what I'm

832
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 4: looking for, and it has the algorithm of the things

833
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 4: I watch, whether it's ESPN or the main channels during

834
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 4: football season and the Food Network and CNBC, like it's

835
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 4: I basically just watched the same six or seven channels.

836
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 4: So the consumer changed with these companies changed, and it's

837
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 4: and you know, I mean, we're just not going back.

838
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 4: You have to look forward. In the NFL, I think

839
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 4: it's trying to strike that balance. But you know, forever

840
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 4: these owners, most of their wealth obviously has come from

841
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 4: the growth of the equity in their team, but the

842
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 4: money that they received, the large percentage of it is

843
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 4: from the TV networks. So Jerry Jones, the Marral family,

844
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 4: Rooney Family, like, a large percentage of their revenue and

845
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 4: cash flow comes from the loyalty of the money CBS, Box,

846
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 4: NBC and ABC has paid them well. Now, a lot

847
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 4: of those guys are super old, either in their late

848
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 4: seventies or their eighties or dying off, and their children,

849
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 4: like my parents were very, very loyal. If you were

850
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 4: doing like they had the same person landscaper for thirty

851
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 4: five years, and whether they did a bad job or

852
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 4: a good job, he was never going away. If someone

853
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 4: was gonna do if we were gonna redo tile in

854
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 4: a bathroom, it was gonna be the same family friend.

855
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 4: I'm just not the same. I'll just go I'll have

856
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 4: seven quotes I'll get the lowest price, and if it's

857
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 4: not working out, I'll change. And I think their children

858
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 4: represent that, and they are just realizing, like, let's face it,

859
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 4: Amazon and Netflix and if Apple TV wanted to get involved,

860
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 4: they just have way more money than these broadcast partners.

861
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 4: And these broadcast partners have a lot of money. I

862
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 4: mean they're paying billions of dollars every year. But if

863
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 4: Netflix wants to five x in a bit just to

864
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 4: be like, we'll just take the entire NFL, they can.

865
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Speaker 4: Like if them in Amazon were just like, hey, we'll

866
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 4: take it all. What's the NFL gonna say?

867
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Speaker 2: No?

868
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 3: Right?

869
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: Three final questions? Eddie gets your Cowboys question, and I'm

870
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: sure you have one.

871
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Yeah, John, Let's talk about my Dallas Cowboys

872
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 1: and the running back situation. Obviously, I was shocked that

873
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: they didn't draft a running back, and then now I

874
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: realize why they didn't draft a running back because they

875
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: had old Zeko Elliott in mind to come back.

876
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 3: What's your whole thought on that, I would sit.

877
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 4: In general, when you need a running back, it is

878
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 4: the one position. Now if you draft a guy super

879
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 4: high like Zeke when he was young and in his prime,

880
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 4: or Saquan they're clearly big time players. But if you

881
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 4: don't have that guy, you usually can find them. They

882
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 4: are guys off the scrap heap. There are practice squad guys.

883
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 4: It is the one position I would put, like guard

884
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 4: and center, Like you can find sometimes a guard or

885
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 4: center that no one's ever heard of that was drafted

886
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 4: this seventh round, that's been on three practice squads and

887
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 4: then he starts for you for a couple of years,

888
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 4: so you can manipulate that position from a cheaper standpoint.

889
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 4: And this was not a good running back draft. And

890
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 4: he can't really force a need, like he can't just

891
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 4: take a running back to take a running back if

892
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 4: you don't really like the guy. Obviously not an ideal situation.

893
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 4: I think the tough part about the Cowboys is the Eagles,

894
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 4: who had one of the biggest implosions we've ever seen

895
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 4: last year. They lost, like felt like they lost like

896
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 4: twenty games in a road end of the season and

897
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 4: they just flamed out. Their roster is good and they've

898
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 4: added good players this offseason, and you just if you

899
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 4: just look at the two rosters, the Eagles are better.

900
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 2: I mean, the.

901
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 4: Cowboys technically won the division because the Eagles fell apart

902
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 4: so bad, but they were kind of neck and neck.

903
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,919
Speaker 4: Maybe the Eagles for the last year and a half

904
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 4: before the last month of the season were a little better.

905
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 4: Now it feels like it's switched and the Eagles are

906
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 4: clearly better. And I also think the kind of elephant

907
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 4: in the room is, you know, Jerry didn't extend Mike McCarthy,

908
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 4: so he's on the last year of his contract, and

909
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 4: unlike college football, there's no recruiting, so technically it doesn't matter,

910
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 4: but that adds to the conversation. If they, you know,

911
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 4: are two and three or they're five and five and

912
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 4: kind of on the it's like, is what's going to

913
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 4: happen here? And the other eulephant in the room is

914
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 4: Dakota Prescott, who is probably one of the more polarizing

915
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 4: players in the league. He's well established, he's a good quarterback.

916
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 4: He's had three straight years playing pretty well. But there

917
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 4: is no debating and listen, I'm a Niner guy. I've

918
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 4: seen him two of the last three years play the

919
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 4: forty nine Ers in the playoffs, once at home and

920
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 4: once on the road, and he throws interceptions and last

921
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,439
Speaker 4: year the defense in that playoff game was it looked

922
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 4: like US six were out there, but he was bad.

923
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 4: And I do wonder if you just if Jerry plans

924
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 4: on playing both of them out, which is fine, But

925
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 4: when you're the Dallas Cowboys, when you're the Lakers, you know,

926
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 4: when you're the Yankees, you know in your music, when

927
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 4: you're Morgan Walling, like, there are more eyeballs on you.

928
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 4: So when things get weird, it's it's gonna be the

929
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 4: biggest conversation if you win whatever. But I think we

930
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 4: all agree that, like, are we sure Dallas is gonna

931
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 4: be a twelve win team anymore? And if you're not

932
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 4: a twelve win team, you're more of a nine to

933
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 4: ten win team. There are a lot of points in

934
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 4: the season where it can kind of break you because

935
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 4: the difference of a nine to ten win team and

936
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 4: a seven to eight win team might be like an

937
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 4: interception and a fumble. Right that the margins in the

938
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 4: nf this is not college football. The margins are really small.

939
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 4: So I think the Cowboys are on a slippery slope.

940
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 4: Now they bring back Mike Zimmer, who you know, old

941
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 4: school cowboy guy from the nineties. Dion loved him. Dan

942
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 4: Quinn is like a happy, uplifting, positive backwards hat. Mike

943
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 4: Zimmer's the opposite. This guy is like a throwback sixties seventies.

944
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 4: He could have been like Bear Bryant, staff f wards

945
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 4: every other word, just angry all the time. That now

946
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 4: he's good, he's a good defensive coordinator. But the vibes

947
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 4: with him and Dan Quinn and let's face it, the

948
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 4: defense has been pretty good for removing the playoff game

949
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 4: for a while. That that that's something to keep an

950
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,720
Speaker 4: eye on, because Mike Zimmer's not mister happy.

951
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 2: All right, Two final questions that answer, well, hey, you're

952
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 2: not mister happy. Who got the favor of the NFL

953
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 2: When the schedule came out you looked at and said, oh, dang,

954
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 2: that schedule, according to what we know now, does not

955
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 2: look to me that hard.

956
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 4: I think the hard part about schedules is think about

957
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 4: if you have the Jets on your schedule last year,

958
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 4: you're like, that's gonna be a tough game, and then

959
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 4: he tears his achilles whatever five plays into the season. Injuries.

960
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 4: How often you know if you had the Bengals last year, like, oh,

961
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 4: the Bengals have been one of the best teams in

962
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 4: the league and then all of a sudden you're playing

963
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 4: the backup quarterback. So injuries changed so much. I think

964
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 4: the one thing the NFL has done, and this goes

965
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 4: back to what we were talking about streaming, is because

966
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 4: Amazon is so important to them moving forward, is they

967
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 4: don't put crappy teams on Thursday night football anymore. So

968
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 4: a lot of teams, especially the bigger brands like the

969
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 4: forty nine Ers, I think the Rams last year, the Steelers.

970
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 4: A lot of these teams get multiple Thursday night games,

971
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 4: and if you have multiple Thursday night games, that's really hard.

972
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 4: So to me, that's one that just is not something

973
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 4: that used to happen because basically every team got a

974
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 4: Thursday night game, and Amazon was like, we don't want

975
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 4: to play Panthers Falcons, Can you give us Niners Rams.

976
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 4: It's like, well, they've already both had a Thursday night game, Like, yeah,

977
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 4: we don't care. Can we get Packers, Cowboys? Can we

978
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 4: get whatever. I'm not saying that's a Thursday night game,

979
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 4: but that's an element that exists now. It happened last

980
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 4: year for the first time, and it's clearly something moving forward.

981
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 4: The other thing is for example, the Jets, I think

982
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 4: their schedule is pretty manage a manageable early. But to

983
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 4: open up up on the West coast on Monday night football, well,

984
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 4: if the game ends in San Francisco at like eight thirty,

985
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,959
Speaker 4: by the time you shower, eat, get on the bus,

986
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 4: get back to the plane, you're not even leaving there

987
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 4: till probably closer to eleven thirty midnight, and then you

988
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 4: fly home. There's a three hour time difference. I mean,

989
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 4: the Jets are gonna get in probably when the sun

990
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 4: is coming up on the East coast, and then they

991
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 4: play again on Sunday. That's just a very very hard travel.

992
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 4: You know, it's much easier to do Monday night football

993
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 4: east back to West because you gain the hours. It's

994
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 4: way harder to do it on the flip side. So

995
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 4: that's that's tough first game for the old Aaron Rodgers

996
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 4: led Jets.

997
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: All right, Final question, Joe Burrow, if he gets heard

998
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: of geting this year, do they have to look for

999
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 2: another quarterback?

1000
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 4: Have you seen there was a story out a couple

1001
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 4: weeks ago that like the average surgery like on an

1002
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 4: acl orn achilles or shoulder surgery, you know, is ninety

1003
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 4: to ninety five percent success rate. That's like the going

1004
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 4: rate in the medical community. I'm not a doctor, but

1005
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 4: read it on Twitter that on this surgery with like

1006
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 4: the hand wrist, it's actually much lower. It's like seventy

1007
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 4: to seventy five percent, and there's like guaranteed inflation that

1008
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 4: comes with it with your muscles and your wrist area.

1009
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 4: So it's just now. I know, he kind of went

1010
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 4: viral that he was throwing and felt good, but the

1011
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 4: doctor said that it's gonna they're gonna have to be

1012
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 4: careful with it. It's just something to keep an eye on.

1013
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 4: I don't know where you stand. To me, he's one

1014
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 4: of my favorite players since that year at LSU because

1015
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 4: when he's on, he's as good as any and obviously

1016
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 4: their receivers are sweet, and he's just a fun player

1017
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 4: to watch. But that's pretty concerning, Like if, in a

1018
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 4: weird way, you would rather pour your acl again than

1019
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 4: have this kind of It's just not a normal injury,

1020
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 4: I mean, when that ever happens. So reading that kind

1021
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 4: of scares me a little bit. But I don't know.

1022
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 4: I mean, they're so all their chips are in the

1023
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 4: middle of the table because of the amount of money

1024
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 4: they gave them and rightfully, so why would you not

1025
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 4: have given him that money? And then he has this injury.

1026
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 4: I would say it's pretty scary if you're a Bengal fan,

1027
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 4: Like every time you're kind of holding your breath. It's

1028
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 4: no different with Anthony Richardson who had a shoulder injury.

1029
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 4: I think, similar to the one Cam had years ago,

1030
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 4: that every time he plays until you prove that, like

1031
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 4: you just when you get when you're laying on the

1032
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 4: ground or when you get tackled that you're going to

1033
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 4: get up, everyone's going to be holding their breath. And

1034
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 4: that's the you know. The one crappy part about the

1035
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 4: NFL is injuries just happen a lot more in these

1036
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 4: other sports because of the violent nature. And it does feel,

1037
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 4: I know that everyone acts like the quarterbacks are off

1038
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 4: limits and they can't get touched. And relative to what

1039
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 4: the league used to be one, I mean, you see

1040
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 4: some of these like eighties or nineties mashups of seal

1041
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 4: on the quarterback, You're like, how did Steve Young not

1042
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 4: die right there? These quarterbacks still get injured a lot.

1043
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 4: I think last year the number of quarterbacks that played

1044
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 4: was close to seventy, so some I mean some of

1045
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 4: these teams are and maybe some of this is like fighting,

1046
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 4: like UFC or boxing. Part of getting ready for a

1047
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 4: fight is building up the calluses getting hit, getting used

1048
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 4: to it, and now no one's ever touched, and then

1049
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 4: all of a sudden you go to a game where

1050
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 4: you see these times coming out of the combine. Guys

1051
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 4: aren't as big as they were. You know, Levon Kirklin

1052
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 4: type players don't exist in football anymore. They're smaller and faster,

1053
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 4: So yeah, they might not be as big. But the

1054
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 4: speed in which all these guys run, I mean, all

1055
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 4: these defensive linemen over the last three or four years,

1056
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 4: some of them are running like four eight forties.

1057
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 3: You're like, how do.

1058
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 4: These human beings move this quickly? So it's just something

1059
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 4: concerning in general with these quarterbacks because they're just not

1060
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 4: used to getting hurt. It's it's honestly one of Lamar

1061
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 4: Jackson's best attributes for being a running quarterback. He's great

1062
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 4: at just like hitting the ground or running out of bounds.

1063
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 4: It's it's a skill that I don't think he gets

1064
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 4: enough credit for because he kind of scrambles around a lot.

1065
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 4: But for the most part, he avoids massive, massive hits.

1066
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 4: And you know it's not all Burrow's fault, but Burrow

1067
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 4: has just taken a lot of big shots in a

1068
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 4: short NFL career.

1069
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 2: John Middlecoff, you guys can follow him on Instagram at

1070
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 2: John Middlecoff or just go to my page and see

1071
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 2: who I'm following. You can find him there. Three and

1072
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 2: Out Podcasts one of my favorite podcasts in the whole

1073
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 2: wide world. So go check it out now the football season.

1074
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 2: If you're not following, you should. John really appreciate the time,

1075
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 2: big fan. Thanks for spending a few minutes with us today.

1076
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 4: You gotta get you on my podcast, Bobby, you don't

1077
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 4: want that month down. You're coming on. I'll hit you

1078
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 4: up and we'll get you sometime in the next month.

1079
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 2: All right, buddy, talk to you soon.

1080
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 7: All right.

1081
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 2: Thanks to John Middlecoff.

1082
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 3: I do want it to know as a forty nine

1083
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 3: Ers fan, well he.

1084
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: Lived, grew up out there.

1085
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 3: When I've asked my Cowboys question.

1086
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 2: Well you are a big Joe Montana fan.

1087
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I was as a kid.

1088
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: I love Joe Montana of course, and then he retired

1089
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: and then your favorite all time.

1090
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 3: Player ooh, all time.

1091
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: Don't not say it, man Smith.

1092
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 3: It's it's hard to say that because, like, I don't

1093
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 3: know my childhood. Joe Montana was Yeah.

1094
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 2: Read, That's what I'm trying to get is Joe Montana

1095
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 2: is his favorite player, but he acts like he hates

1096
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: the forty nine I do have.

1097
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: But but Joe Montana is not a forty nine er.

1098
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: He's just a great quarterback.

1099
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 2: What okay, sorry, you know what I mean? He's a

1100
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 2: chief to Eddie. Yeah, I was like, yeah, the can't

1101
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 2: city chief. I love him, the legendary dude, the legendary chief.

1102
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 3: That's right, number nineteen.

1103
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 2: So we have somebody new that started with us today.

1104
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 2: Uh can did you meet everybody here? Do you meet

1105
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: all those guys? Pull up? Hi?

1106
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 3: Katie?

1107
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 6: Hi Katie.

1108
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 2: So Katie and I met when I went to talk

1109
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 2: at the University of Arkansas. She was in your class

1110
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 2: and the and then like the adult class. There were

1111
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 2: like classes of freshman year, I mean an adult class. Well,

1112
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 2: she was like in the older class, like people that

1113
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 2: were about to graduate.

1114
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: Guts, you're not like an adult topic class? No, okay

1115
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: class where you teach?

1116
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 2: No, No, there were like freshman classes. I just didn't care.

1117
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: But so I met her there and I told everybody.

1118
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, here's my email address. Just email

1119
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 2: me whatever you need. And so she emailed me. It

1120
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 2: was like can I intern? It? Tell me if my

1121
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 2: story is wrong? Can I intern? And I was like, well,

1122
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 2: we can't take interns, but you can just come here

1123
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 2: for three months and I'll just pay you and you

1124
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 2: can just work with us. That way, it's a real job.

1125
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 2: It's like a freelance job. And so but she's not

1126
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 2: done with school. So you just graduated.

1127
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just graduated with my Bachelors of Journalism and

1128
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 7: I've technically done with one year of grad school already

1129
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 7: because i looped it with my senior year, so I've

1130
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 7: got one year left and then i'll beat down with

1131
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 7: my master's in May of twive.

1132
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 2: So what's the goal?

1133
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 8: The goal kind of just a wide range of things.

1134
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 7: That class that you came and spoke to actually opened

1135
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 7: me up to a lot of different.

1136
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 8: Media jobs that they're out there.

1137
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 7: Originally I was thinking sideline broad casting, sideline reporting and

1138
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 7: that kind of thing, which I'm still interested in that,

1139
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 7: but honestly, just kind of anything in the multi media space,

1140
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 7: storytelling of all different types.

1141
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 2: So that's multi media, not like you idiots, you gotta

1142
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 2: do monomedia.

1143
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 6: What is multi media?

1144
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 2: Mono media? She came to the wrong place, so I

1145
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 2: met her. I was like, hey, why don't you come?

1146
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 2: You can work, just it's a job three months before

1147
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 2: you go back to school. So she's going to be

1148
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 2: here just doing all kinds basically what we all do,

1149
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 2: all kinds of crap.

1150
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: So Katie, you like, just packed your bags and I'm

1151
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 1: moving to Nashville pretty much.

1152
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 3: Do you know anyone here?

1153
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 7: I have one friend that I went to school with

1154
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 7: that lives here and she moved back after she graduated,

1155
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 7: and so she's here. Other than that, just got one

1156
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 7: friend who just moved to town for work. But yeah,

1157
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 7: I have never been to Nashville before. And whenever we

1158
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 7: were on that Zoom call, it was a Wednesday, and Bobby.

1159
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 8: Was saying, can you be here on Monday?

1160
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 3: And so Bobby, well, I was.

1161
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 2: Like, if you want to work? And school was ending?

1162
00:55:59,080 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 8: Yeah, school was ending.

1163
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 2: Second, you only got a short window, so can you

1164
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 2: be If you can be here, I can start paying you.

1165
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 2: That's kind of what it wasn't like be here?

1166
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I just know.

1167
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 3: Bobby is very like we don't have a lot of

1168
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 3: time away, so we're gonna do it.

1169
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 2: Let's go.

1170
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 7: I was excited whenever he said that, because I was

1171
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 7: eager to start as soon as possible. But so packed

1172
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 7: my bags and I was on the road Tuesday morning

1173
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 7: by eight am.

1174
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 8: Never been to Nashville before, and here I am.

1175
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 2: So, So, what do you do journalism wise at University

1176
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 2: of Arkansas?

1177
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, so back there, I'm the sports director for our

1178
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 7: campus news station. It's called UA TV, and with that,

1179
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 7: I have a staff of about eight anchors that.

1180
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 8: Go on every week.

1181
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 7: They go on Monday through Thursday, and then we also

1182
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 7: have a sports specialty show called The Sports Advantage, which

1183
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 7: that's my favorite thing that we do.

1184
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 8: We do a whole lot of different content there. We do.

1185
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 7: I just kind of tell people it's just a mixing

1186
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 7: bowl of all different things. We've got a girl who

1187
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 7: covers rodeo. We've got some guys who do NFL stuff regularly.

1188
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 7: We've got hockey, you've got f one racing, and there's

1189
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 7: lots of roundtables and just kind of anything people want

1190
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 7: to talk about, whether it's a solo segment or a

1191
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 7: combo roundtable thing.

1192
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 8: We just get creative with it, and that's my favorite part.

1193
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 2: Did you play sports going out?

1194
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1195
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 7: So I always joked that the only recognition I ever

1196
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 7: got from my athletic ability was for academics. You know,

1197
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 7: you get those all academic.

1198
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 2: So like Walter Payton, Yeah.

1199
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 8: Go ahead, pretty much. Yeah.

1200
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 7: So I played basketball and volleyball all the way up

1201
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 7: into high school and then a little bit of track,

1202
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 7: which I always laugh at that story because I think

1203
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 7: they the coaches kind of got a kick out of

1204
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 7: me just being a track athlete in general, because I'm

1205
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 7: definitely not made.

1206
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 8: For that, and they didn't have a spot for me

1207
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 8: in track.

1208
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 7: And one day they sent me over to shot put,

1209
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 7: and I mean, I don't have the physique for shotput,

1210
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 7: but I was out there with the O line and

1211
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 7: throwing that as hard as I could, and just let's

1212
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 7: just say I didn't get any recognition for that.

1213
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 3: Pretty tall though, Yeah, I'm five to eleven, I'm six.

1214
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 2: Ft And what is your favorite sport to watch?

1215
00:57:59,360 --> 00:57:59,959
Speaker 3: Or cup?

1216
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 8: Or basketball? For sure? If I could pick a specific area.

1217
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 7: Of basketball, it'd be the eighties to nineties basketball era.

1218
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 7: But you know, we can't get back to that right

1219
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 7: now with.

1220
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 2: All the fouling and fifty. That's the end of the game.

1221
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 2: Sean Kemp had six points and let all scores.

1222
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 8: It was grittier, it was grittier. I liked it. I

1223
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,919
Speaker 8: liked the hustle back then, do you play two k No?

1224
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 8: I don't. I don't play any video games. Actually so smart.

1225
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 2: So what about now do you watch?

1226
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 3: Like?

1227
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 7: What?

1228
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 2: What's your favorite thing to focus on? Sports wise? Now?

1229
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 8: College basketball? I'm a big college basketball fan.

1230
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 7: And then, like you guys were talking about earlier women's basketball,

1231
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 7: you know, gotten more into that watching Angel Reese and

1232
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 7: Caitlyn Clark.

1233
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 8: And all them kind of create a new narrative for it.

1234
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 2: So I've been don't get me started.

1235
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:45,919
Speaker 8: I won't.

1236
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was here, as you heard, Hey, I.

1237
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 8: Agree with you, she was here.

1238
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 2: Listen, there are a lot of great people. There may

1239
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: be better players, but don't take the person who's actually

1240
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,439
Speaker 2: changing the league and getting people to watch and try

1241
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 2: to minimize her because it make because your ego hurts anyway.

1242
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 7: That's actually something that me and my friends were talking

1243
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 7: about with Kaitlyn Clark specifically, is that the media will

1244
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 7: build someone up just so that they can tear them

1245
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 7: down again and.

1246
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 2: We saw all the time.

1247
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes we saw that a.

1248
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 7: Lot with Kaitlyn Clark, especially in her college gameplay. I mean,

1249
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 7: because it was she was getting a lot of attention,

1250
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 7: and then it was oh, she's dramatic out there on

1251
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 7: the court, Oh she's got a bad attitude, or oh

1252
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 7: she thinks she deserves every foul call. And it was like, well,

1253
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 7: I mean, you guys, she was playing like that before

1254
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 7: you started giving our attention.

1255
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 2: So game three, when I was watching her play the Liberty,

1256
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 2: she was dropping a bunch more f bombs. Could tell

1257
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 2: she was getting more comfortable. Yeah, like being a leader

1258
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 2: on the floor girl. Yeah, well no different dropping. Did

1259
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 2: you have you watched any of her games? Not in

1260
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 2: the w you're not a fan like me a w BA.

1261
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 4: I watched.

1262
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 2: I watched all three of the games. All of them.

1263
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 4: Like she would throw.

1264
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 2: Like bounce passes through people as someone was cutting and

1265
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 2: it would hit them in the knee and they'd miss it.

1266
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 2: She'd be like f half look, not yelling at them,

1267
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 2: but just like frustration that nothing was working. And I

1268
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 2: was like, oh, you can tell she's starting to feel

1269
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 2: it now, like she's she's starting to kind of understand

1270
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 2: her role which is it's probably hard to go in

1271
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 2: as you're a college junior last year on the worst team,

1272
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 2: and I think the year before the fever. So I've

1273
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 2: heard also had a high maybe the number one and

1274
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 2: number two. No, maybe the number two pick. They took

1275
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 2: the girl from South Carolina. But she has to be

1276
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 2: the leader on this team now, and it's gonna be

1277
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 2: a weird spot to be young two three games in

1278
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 2: have all this pressure and be like, screw it. It's

1279
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 2: not for me to just do what I do. And

1280
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 2: you can see her start to do that now. So

1281
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 2: I'm not even a fan that much.

1282
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 3: It sounds like you are.

1283
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 2: No, I'm I'm not a fan of how unfairly one

1284
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 2: that she's being traded in. Two I'd like to see

1285
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 2: the league actually do well. But it's like they're they're

1286
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 2: cutting off the nose despite the face whatever.

1287
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 3: My grandma used to say, Yeah, it sounds that kind

1288
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 3: of sounds right.

1289
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that. Well, we're glad you're here.

1290
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm glad to be here.

1291
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 2: There is there is no we don't there's really no

1292
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 2: process to well, there's just a lot of stuff. What

1293
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 2: we do, Yeah, yeah we do. But I'm gonna have

1294
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 2: her working on a lot of stuff. Okay, cool, anything

1295
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 2: before we go? Read how you been, buddy?

1296
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 6: I've been great?

1297
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 7: Man.

1298
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 4: Did you bet on any of the w NBA games? Yeah?

1299
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 2: And I hit Caitlin Clark covering and he's Game three?

1300
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 3: Are you betting on that? Read?

1301
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 4: No, dude, I'm retarding.

1302
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right.

1303
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 2: I did try to log in yesterday and it still

1304
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 2: said it was blocked. So you blocked yourself?

1305
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 3: Why would you know?

1306
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 6: I was just making straight?

1307
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 3: We are you trying to relapse?

1308
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 2: Was that that was called You're trying to fall off

1309
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 2: the wagon, but no, get back on it? Well, falling

1310
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 2: off the wagon would mean.

1311
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 1: That means you you're you're drinking again, But that means

1312
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: he's trying to fall off the wagon, right, Oh yeah, yeah, okay,

1313
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: so you're on the wagon and you're trying to jump off,

1314
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 1: but he's trying to.

1315
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I didn't let him.

1316
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 2: For those that don't know, Reid was winning exactly a lot,

1317
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 2: was gambling on DraftKings responsibly, and he was winning like

1318
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 2: stupid amount. So he calls the eight hundred number to say,

1319
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 2: please cut me off because I'm afraid of what I

1320
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 2: can do it's very responsible, thank you. But the fact

1321
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 2: that you're like just like putting your toes in the

1322
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 2: water going, I wonder if I give back, I know,

1323
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 2: but I'm like, you should be blocked off then, I know,

1324
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 2: because I'm not going to contact them to open it again.

1325
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 2: I was just gonna be like, I'm just gonna test

1326
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 2: this out see if they actually did block it. I

1327
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 2: was gonna ask you guys, if you if you don't mind,

1328
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask, do you have any tickets eddie anything?

1329
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 4: Oh?

1330
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 1: Man, just I'm just glad that basketball is over for

1331
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: a little bit of youth basketball because my kids are

1332
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: all done. However, we did do tryouts last night for

1333
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: another team, and tryouts is tough, man Like. There must

1334
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: have been fifty kids there and I bet they were probably.

1335
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 2: What the about something? My gay dude, this is what

1336
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 2: you do.

1337
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 3: When I'm telling a story. No, you're not allowed to get.

1338
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 2: Out go ahead, bad back.

1339
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 1: No. I just you know, my kids are like nine

1340
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: and ten, and it's cool. I like taking them through

1341
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 1: these tryouts just to kind of get the tryout.

1342
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 3: But it's brutal, man like.

1343
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 1: Sometimes these teams, like the team last night, they're only

1344
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: gonna do two teams of ten, so that's twenty kids

1345
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,919
Speaker 1: that they're gonna accept. There's fifty kids there, and there's

1346
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 1: already a group of kids that have already been on

1347
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: the team. So when you go to a tryout, there's

1348
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: probably only two slots for thirty kids. Yeah, and it's

1349
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: just tough because like they're really putting a lot of

1350
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: pressure on themselves, like, oh am I gonna make the team,

1351
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: but probably not. There's two slots and there's fifty kids,

1352
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: You're probably not gonna make the team.

1353
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 2: And also it's probably a bit like when I I

1354
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 2: did American Outo for four years, we weren't always looking

1355
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 2: for the best singers, or sometimes we're looking for types

1356
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 2: of singers to fill the gaps. Yeah, so I'm not

1357
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 2: even saying types of players in that way. But maybe

1358
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 2: they need big guys or they have too many big

1359
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 2: guys and they need guards. But your kid's a big guy.

1360
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 2: You know, those are factors too.

1361
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 1: What's funny too, is that so many kids go into

1362
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 1: these tryouts and they're like, I'm gonna show them everything

1363
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 1: I got.

1364
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 3: They do three on three drills.

1365
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 1: And so there's the kid that will never pass the ball.

1366
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: He's holding the ball between his legs around the back,

1367
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 1: little Euro step. But the coaches are like, pass the ball.

1368
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: I want to see how you play with other kids.

1369
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: I can see how you handle with your drills.

1370
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1371
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: Like and it's funny because all these kids like, I'm

1372
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 1: not going to pass the ball at all, And I

1373
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 1: don't know. I just learned a lot from this. This

1374
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 1: whole tryout experience pretty weird.

1375
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 2: I never saw you what do you mean, well him,

1376
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 2: I ever saw you on the weekends. Is when I

1377
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 2: went out to watch you kids play.

1378
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: You were Oh, dude, I've been in basketball like for

1379
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: every weekend and even you're straight on Saturday, I woke

1380
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: up at seven thirty to make an eight uh an

1381
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 1: eight thirty game across town, and I didn't get home

1382
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 1: till like seven thirty at night.

1383
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 3: It's just like that. It's every weekend is like that.

1384
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 3: It's crazy.

1385
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 1: But I talked to other parents who are like, hey,

1386
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 1: I did a travel team and we drove to like Chicago. Yeah,

1387
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 1: and we got eliminated the first week, the first game,

1388
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: the first two games, and we're like, all right, I'm

1389
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:44,919
Speaker 1: just head back.

1390
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 3: That suck, like, so I'm like, I'm glad I'm not

1391
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 3: doing that, uh.

1392
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 2: Kevin, Yeah, that's rough.

1393
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 6: Celtics Pacers. I'm excited, but I think.

1394
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 2: The pitchers have a shot. Man.

1395
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:55,959
Speaker 3: I think so too.

1396
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,959
Speaker 2: Talk about a team that passes and plays well. Yeah,

1397
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 2: like Miles Charged scored the least amount of points and

1398
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 2: they still had seventeen.

1399
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's how they play. They look good. And

1400
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 5: Halliburton's playing really well again. And Celtics.

1401
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 2: He looked lost for a while, didn't he.

1402
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was going through rough stretch the last half

1403
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 5: of the season beginning of the playoffs.

1404
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 6: But the Celtics are just so up and down. I

1405
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 6: just don't know what to think.

1406
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 2: Supports it's gonna play.

1407
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 5: He's out in the first two games for sure, and

1408
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 5: game three is still up in the air. They said

1409
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 5: two first games, he's out. I know, everyone you know

1410
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 5: gets on them because they don't blow all these teams out.

1411
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, they've only.

1412
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 6: Lost two games so far, which is pretty good. I

1413
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 6: know they haven't really played the best teams, but I'm

1414
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 6: just saying.

1415
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, they played us. I'm just saying, so we've played,

1416
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 2: we played for the fever, we almost went the next

1417
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 2: and we're basically every team that Boston's played. Yeah, but

1418
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 2: I am nervous. Yeah, we're supposed to supposedly supposed to

1419
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 2: go to U Saint Louis on Thursday afternoon. Go. Yeah,

1420
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 2: so we're gonna go and spend some time with Jim

1421
01:05:56,120 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 2: Edmonds on Thursday afternoon, and then Friday go to the

1422
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 2: Cardinals and uh talk with their manager. And what's funny

1423
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 2: is I have a Paul gol shmant helmet here on

1424
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 2: my desk, and that's who we're gonna right supposed to

1425
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 2: be working with a little bit talking with. What I'm

1426
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 2: nervous about is I tore my rotator cuff. Look to

1427
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:21,919
Speaker 2: two minor tears. We're not concerned me telling my wife,

1428
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, there's those of all. That's why I never

1429
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 2: like played it up. I never wanted to play it up.

1430
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 2: So it'd be like, well, you probably shouldn't go to

1431
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 2: Saint Louis. Actually maybe have one big rip. I just

1432
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 2: didn't say anything because I so I got too easy,

1433
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 2: had some rotator cuff injuries. I think I've developed some

1434
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 2: tendonitis in there though now, which is normal, but it

1435
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 2: sucks and it hurts. But I don't know if I

1436
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 2: can throw, meaning I haven't thrown a single ball since

1437
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 2: I've since you know. I think I tore it at

1438
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 2: Florida State. I heard it works at Oklahoma State Softball

1439
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 2: and then Arkansas it was just dead. But I haven't.

1440
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 2: I haven't thrown it all.

1441
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 3: Should I bring the glove over?

1442
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 2: I think you should come over a little bit early. Yeah,

1443
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 2: if you can, and we should throw a little bit.

1444
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 2: You have a baseball though, I do. I got plenty

1445
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 2: of baseball baseball. I bought two gloves. I got left gloves. Yeah, no,

1446
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 2: two lefty gloves and used gonna break one. Plan have

1447
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 2: to break it in smart. So we're supposed to go

1448
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 2: to Saint Louis and do that. I'm very much looking

1449
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 2: forward to that. Here's my problem. It's not a problem

1450
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 2: because I'm not gonna let it be a problem. I'm

1451
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 2: I'm been a lifelong Cubs fan and they're playing the Cubs.

1452
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 2: Oh no, but i am. I'm a guest of the Cardinals.

1453
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 2: That that's it the end. I'm not wearing any.

1454
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 3: Cub stuff, not even underneath.

1455
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 2: I don't think. So it didn't do anything for me.

1456
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 2: It should be we'll go to the game, we'll fly

1457
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 2: back right after the game. It'll be a ton of

1458
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 2: fun and it's gonna be awesome. Yeah, it should be fun.

1459
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 2: But I'm not people asking are you gonna wear a cup? No,

1460
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 2: I'm there with the Cardinals. I'm not gonna wear Cardinals stuff,

1461
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 2: but I'm not gonna wear Cub stuff.

1462
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 1: But if you're like, say you're on the field right

1463
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 1: before the game whatever, and they're like, oh god, there's

1464
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: a Cub, you can say hi to any of them.

1465
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 2: Dude, they're like twenty years old. What do I care

1466
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 2: about it?

1467
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 3: You wouldn't want to meet anyone.

1468
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 2: I'd like to meet the older ones like that are

1469
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 2: way older than me.

1470
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 6: Do you have a favorite player right now on the

1471
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 6: team and the Cubs.

1472
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 2: Well, just depends. I got a few rookies. It's all cards.

1473
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 7: Now.

1474
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 2: Cards are just a little stock.

1475
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 3: Oh no, you're not taking cards?

1476
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 2: Are listening cards? Or I figured out why I like

1477
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 2: them now again, they're just little stocks, just a little gambling.

1478
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 2: You just buy a box and see what you got.

1479
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 2: And some of them more, some a lot aren't, and

1480
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 2: if you hold them, it's just that's all it is.

1481
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 2: It's basically cardboard gambling.

1482
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 3: Are you going to play golf again?

1483
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 2: I've not played one time. I understand, I know you

1484
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 2: and replayed. I saw it on my phone, yes, and.

1485
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 3: We were waiting for your call and you never called us.

1486
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 3: Oh I was asleep, remember, well, then how did you

1487
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:37,759
Speaker 3: see us?

1488
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 2: When I woke up? I saw you guys in like

1489
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 2: sixteen or something.

1490
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 3: Such a stalker, dude.

1491
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 2: It pops up whenever you guys are playing golf.

1492
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 3: Did you see the score? I murdered him. No, you

1493
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 3: didn't murder Yes I did.

1494
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:49,560
Speaker 2: We were tied, still alive.

1495
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:55,719
Speaker 1: Technically he had incredible chip though for a birdie.

1496
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. Yeah, dude from like way off the green.

1497
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 2: I haven't played one time, and I have a club, like,

1498
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 2: not a golf club, like I'm a.

1499
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 3: Mayor any more than one club.

1500
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 2: I still have. My shoulders been killing me.

1501
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 3: Okay, but I didn't know if you were.

1502
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 1: You're doing cards instead of golf because you get obsessed

1503
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 1: with certain things, so that sort.

1504
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 2: I told my wife. She was like, what this obsession?

1505
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 2: When does it? Because it was watermelon, then it was

1506
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 2: memorabilia watermelon. When I was eating watermelon like ten times a.

1507
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 3: Day, where is the cereal in there?

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01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 2: Cereal all the time? But I have no cereal in

1509
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 2: my house right now. So I do get obsessed with things.

1510
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 2: And I told my wife I go back to being

1511
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:31,600
Speaker 2: obsessed with golf and be gone all the time, like

1512
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 2: that was some.

1513
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 3: Sort of like tactics on all the time.

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01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,759
Speaker 2: But I supposed to go, and I'm looking forward to

1515
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,719
Speaker 2: going to work and hang out with the much hated

1516
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 2: of my whole life Cardinals, because I'm an adult man

1517
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 2: and that stuff's not real.

1518
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 1: What rivalries they are real, they're not. You're not gonna

1519
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 1: send me to Philadelphia watch the Eagles play.

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01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 2: Yes, we would, and you would go. Probably would be

1521
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 2: it fun, Like I would go. This would be a

1522
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 2: tough one. I would go, and we do it too much.

1523
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 2: Access at Texas be tough for me. But then it's

1524
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 2: like I hate the long Horns, right, I hate the

1525
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 2: long Horns like the worst. But really, I'm an adult

1526
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 2: and when it comes to doing work, I don't know,

1527
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know.

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01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 4: That's tough.

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01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 2: That's the hardest one of any of them in the

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01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 2: history of my life. That one would be tough. So

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01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 2: all right, to make it happen. Then we're done. I

1532
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 2: think that's it. Good show. Thanks to John middlecoff and

1533
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 2: we will see you guys. I don't know, maybe later

1534
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 2: next week or something. Patty blow to whistle, all right,

1535
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 2: we'll see you guys next time.