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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: The third hour Clay and Buck kicks off now, and

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Speaker 2: we are joined by doctor Marty McCarry. He is at

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Speaker 2: Johns Hopkins University Medical Center. He's also the author of

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Speaker 2: The Price We Pay and doctor McCarey. Great to have

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Speaker 2: you on as always, thanks for being here with us.

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Speaker 2: I want to start with this one. Are there really

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Speaker 2: and I think I know what the answer is, but

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Speaker 2: there's a part of me that's hoping that I'm not

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Speaker 2: going to get the.

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Speaker 1: Answer you're going to give here.

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Speaker 2: We've seen some talk of mask masks coming back from

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Speaker 2: the White House no less, and even from a school.

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Speaker 2: Clay brought that up yesterday. I'm seeing masks, especially in

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Speaker 2: airports these days. For some reason, COVID only lives at

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Speaker 2: airports in some people's minds. When you have some of

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Speaker 2: your medical colleagues, when you have a moment with them,

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Speaker 2: do any of them really look you in the eye

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Speaker 2: and say, mask mandates are going to stop COVID?

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Speaker 1: Like they actually believe this still?

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Speaker 2: I mean that honestly, Like, are there still true believers

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Speaker 2: that you come across in medicine? When it comes to Fauciism, Yeah, they.

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Speaker 3: Do believe it, and I think it's because they don't

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Speaker 3: actually read the studies. They instead they just follow the

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Speaker 3: group think and the dogma and the consensus, because the

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Speaker 3: consensus is coming from the powerful elites in the medical field.

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Speaker 3: These are highly partisan leaders of the professional associations. They

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Speaker 3: are very intertwined with the CDC and ih fauci types.

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Speaker 3: And look, I want to believe the masks work too,

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Speaker 3: I really want it to work, but it just doesn't. Right,

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Speaker 3: that's the scientific process. I want to believe in Goldilocks

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Speaker 3: and the Three Bears, I want to believe in a

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Speaker 3: lot of things. But when you have evidence that does

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Speaker 3: not exist, and then strong research to the contrary, the

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Speaker 3: scientific process is you listen to that evidence. Right now,

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Speaker 3: we've got the study called the Cochrane Review, which looked

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Speaker 3: at one hundred and fifty studies on masks. Cochrane has

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Speaker 3: always been the accepted authority in medicine forever. Anytime they

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Speaker 3: do their comprehensive reviews, everyone says this is now the

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Speaker 3: gold standard, except when it challenged the dogma. Except when

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Speaker 3: it gave results that some people simply did not like.

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Speaker 1: Doctor mcarey.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for all the work you've been doing, and I

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Speaker 4: know you've been writing a lot of editorials at the

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Speaker 4: Wall Street Journal and other places as well. But when

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Speaker 4: you hear doctor Fauci say, as he did in that

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Speaker 4: interview on CNN, it may not work in a large

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Speaker 4: group basis, but on an individual basis, it still can.

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Speaker 4: Buck and I had this conversation where if you acknowledge

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Speaker 4: the data reflects that you might have been wrong, people

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Speaker 4: actually trust you more. Why do you think so many

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Speaker 4: doctors are afraid to acknowledge the evolving data on masks

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Speaker 4: and not just admit that they didn't actually have an impact.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think we're in a new era right now, Clay,

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Speaker 3: when doctors are no longer doing their own analysis of

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Speaker 3: the research.

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Speaker 5: What we've lost in.

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Speaker 3: Medicine is the art of the critical appraisal of research.

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Speaker 3: This research is strong, this research is bad, You throw

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Speaker 3: this one out, this one is solid. We've lost that. Instead,

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Speaker 3: now doctors have gone partisan because there's a guy in

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Speaker 3: office they don't like or didn't like, and this other

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Speaker 3: guy is against that guy. So I'm with this guy.

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Speaker 3: And that is the tragedy right now of modern medicine.

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Speaker 3: And if you look at the history of modern medicine,

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Speaker 3: it's not the first time. And matter of fact, it's

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Speaker 3: a trend. Opioids are not addictive. How long did we

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Speaker 3: believe that for? That was the consensus that was from

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Speaker 3: on high. The doctors groups, the medical journals, the industry

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Speaker 3: all pushed it for thirty years. If you said something

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Speaker 3: of the contrary, it was, well, that's not you know,

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Speaker 3: there was your sidelined saturated fact causing heart disease. That's

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Speaker 3: not true. That was a dogma for fifty years until

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Speaker 3: it was disproven kids should avoid peanuts. That was dogma.

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Speaker 3: It was not true. It actually created a lot of

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Speaker 3: peanut allergies. So we have a history. There's actually a

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Speaker 3: They just signed on to the group.

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Speaker 1: Think doctor McCarey.

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Speaker 2: One thing that you come across with people sometimes who

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Speaker 2: are the mask dead enders if you will, they'll say, well,

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Speaker 2: why do doctors and surgeons were masks in the hospital?

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Speaker 1: Still, idiot? How do you respond to that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, given what the Cochrane study shows, because because

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Speaker 2: to me it's yeah, maybe doctors actually shouldn't be walking

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 3: Look, if we sneeze and there's droplet contamination, that's not

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Speaker 3: droplet contamination we want in asterial field. But go to

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Speaker 3: overseas and you will see surgeons operating with no mask

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Speaker 3: or their mask below their nose, and we don't see

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Speaker 3: differences and infection rates. Now, I wear a mask when

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Speaker 3: I do surgery because that's our protocol, and I'll give

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Speaker 3: it the benefit of the doubt. But you're talking about

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Speaker 3: a sterile field and you're talking about no evidence to

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Speaker 3: support it. We just do it. When it comes to

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Speaker 3: covering the faces of children in school, you're causing harm.

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Speaker 3: And when you have a definitive study that shows that

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Speaker 3: masks do not alter the trajectory of the infection, what

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Speaker 3: do you do with that inconvenient data? If you're a

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Speaker 3: mask cold member.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, doc, I gotta ask.

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Speaker 2: I mean, do you think there's a prominent doctor out

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Speaker 2: there who would publicly debate you on this issue or

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Speaker 2: do they just know that when push comes to saw,

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Speaker 2: push comes to show the facts, will smash them.

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Speaker 3: No, No one'll do. I have never found anyone courageous

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Speaker 3: enough to actually discuss it head to head, because if

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Speaker 3: you look at the shreddy the terrible evidence that they

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Speaker 3: cite to support masks, it's the hairdresser study in Maricopa

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Speaker 3: District study where they cherry picked schools. The study was

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Speaker 3: redone and found to have the opposite result, that is,

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Speaker 3: it was found to have no impact. So if we

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Speaker 3: actually talk about the evidence, then it's a very clear discussion.

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Speaker 3: But people don't want to talk about the actual data.

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Speaker 4: Doctor mcarey, I'm curious on this too, and we appreciate

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Speaker 4: you coming on and encourage you to go follow doctor

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Speaker 4: Martin McCarey. Read his work that has been widely published

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Speaker 4: all over. The place you are from, Johns Hopkins is

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Speaker 4: where you work. Now you've advised Glenn Youngkin you're in

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Speaker 4: the DC area. I'm sure you saw yesterday I shared

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Speaker 4: classroom kids are being forced to wear in ninety fives

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Speaker 4: positive for COVID. This is a kindergarten classroom. When you

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Speaker 4: see a response like that. As a doctor, your reaction.

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Speaker 3: Is what, well, it's sad that children are being forced

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Speaker 3: to wear the political badge of adults. Children have become

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Speaker 3: talk about the Cochran Review. So it's a tragedy. I

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Speaker 3: wish we weren't at the stage. If you look at

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Speaker 3: the money, time and energy and lawsuits we've spent on

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Speaker 3: back and forth with masks, the Cochran Review would tell

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Speaker 3: us none of it made a difference. It's a highly

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Speaker 3: contagious virus. The kids are going to get it. They

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Speaker 3: might get it seven times or nine times in their childhood.

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Speaker 3: You cannot outrun the lion. When you have one of

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Speaker 3: these cloth or surgical masks on, you're still breeding and

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Speaker 3: you're just breathing around the mask worth through it with

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Speaker 2: And in terms of we're speaking of doctor Marty McCarey

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Speaker 2: of Johns Hockey's University Medical Center, in terms of where

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Speaker 2: we go here with vaccines and boosters or whatever they're

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Speaker 2: calling them. Now, what I mean is it basically like

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Speaker 2: blu shot level effectiveness so maybe seniors should consider taking it.

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Speaker 2: The fact that I think it's still official White House

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Speaker 2: where does all of that stand based on the data.

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Speaker 3: Well, we don't have any data on boosters and young

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Speaker 3: people whatsoever. Never did, never had that research. The study

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Speaker 3: that people have cited to support the booster dose and

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Speaker 3: younger people. It turns out, and that Israeli study, when

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Speaker 3: the scientists went back and reanalyzed the data, they found

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Speaker 3: that it was just a healthier group that went out

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Speaker 3: so the New England Journal got a letter rebutting that article.

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Speaker 3: So I'd love to see the data that these repeat

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Speaker 3: boosters give you anything more than a sugar high for

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Speaker 3: three months of antibodies. You might get transient protection, but

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Speaker 3: you cannot outrun a highly contagious virus. The White House

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Speaker 3: is already saying that their new booster shot, which is

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Speaker 3: there's never been a human trial on that vaccine, no

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Speaker 4: Doctor Martin McCarey with us right now, where do we

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Speaker 4: go from here? Let's pretend that you were in charge

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Speaker 4: of COVID response going forward. What would your advice be

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Speaker 4: to Americans across the political spectrum, Democrats, Republicans, and independents

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Speaker 4: crazy to think of this that we're still having this conversation,

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Speaker 4: but this is the fourth fall and winter since COVID

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Speaker 4: What would your advice be for the nation? What is

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you as a doctor, patients appreciate it

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Speaker 3: when you say I don't know when you really don't

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Speaker 3: Rather than talk with dogma and absolutism, just acknowledge it.

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Speaker 3: In the case of masks, we got it wrong. The

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Speaker 3: data now are very clear. In the case of school closures,

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Speaker 3: these decisions, and we cannot have the government adjudicating on

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Speaker 3: every aspect of American life. Can I go to the gym?

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Speaker 3: What do I do here? How long do I quarantine for?

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Speaker 3: It's a fluid situation. Things change and everyone's different. Everyone

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Speaker 3: has to assess their own individual risk. We've got to

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Speaker 3: use some common sense. I think we've forgotten that we've

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Speaker 2: Doctor McCarey. Always appreciate you, sir. If people want to

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Speaker 2: follow your research, your work, where should they go?

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Speaker 3: So I'm on Twitter Martin McCarey, and I appreciate all

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Speaker 3: the retweets and life. So always happy to see what

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Speaker 3: you guys have to say, and thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you? I mean, Clay, it is.

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Speaker 4: Man, I mean, I love that reaction that because we

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Speaker 4: could talk a lot of words, but that disgusted sigh

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Speaker 4: that you just released there. I feel like it's such

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Speaker 4: a perfect approximation of where we.

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Speaker 1: Are, what is wrong with people?

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Speaker 2: I just want to walk up and look at the

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Speaker 2: say what has to happen for you to realize you

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Speaker 2: were wrong.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you know, I've gone through things.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm trying to think of a different sort

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Speaker 2: of eras of science, where you know, I grew up

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Speaker 2: thinking that breakfast cereal was really healthy. Eat breakfast cereal.

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Speaker 1: Again, no consequences.

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Speaker 1: The Torch of truth passed and still lit every day.

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Speaker 1: Take money out of your bank account. Whatever they feel like.

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Speaker 1: Sleeve Travis and Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 2: On the front Lines of truth, Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 1: All right, we've been talking about it.

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Speaker 2: What happens when you are a in establishment journal over

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Speaker 4: What do you take from the text message to his

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Speaker 4: he says to a Chinese Communist Party official, if I

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Speaker 4: don't get millions of dollars, and I'm paraphrasing, basically, there's

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Speaker 4: going to be hell to pay. You don't want to

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Speaker 4: cross the bidens when there are reports credibly offered that

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Speaker 4: millions of dollars were paid by Beresma to the Biden

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Speaker 4: family to try to avoid consequential punishment for their behavior

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Speaker 4: in Ukraine. When Buck there is as this question is asked,

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Speaker 4: a suggestion from Hunter Biden that he has to give

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Speaker 4: half of his money to Joe Biden, when Tony Bobolinski

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Speaker 4: has testified that there was ten percent reserve for the

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Speaker 4: big guy. When there are tens of millions of dollars

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Speaker 4: in payments that have been routed through secret bank accounts

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Speaker 4: to I believe nine different members of the Biden family

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Speaker 4: from Chinese and Russian and Ukrainian enemies of the United States,

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Speaker 4: you can say you may not believe that that behavior

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Speaker 4: by Joe Biden is criminal, not to mention twenty different

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Speaker 4: phone calls made to Hunter Biden's business associates, a bevy

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Speaker 4: of anonymous emails that were drafted by Joe Biden. You

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Speaker 4: can say, I don't think that's criminal. What you cannot say, Buck, is, oh,

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Speaker 4: there's no evidence that Joe Biden was involved in any

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Speaker 4: of this, which is what they're still trying to argue,

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Speaker 4: or just.

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Speaker 2: Also throwing out there that it's circumstantial evidence. Like most

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Speaker 2: people are sent to prison based on circumstantial evidence. There's

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Speaker 2: usually not actually an eyewitness. This may come as a

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Speaker 2: shock to some people to the Washington Post, But.

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Speaker 1: If you're in a.

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Speaker 2: Closing argument in a trial and your figures all the

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Speaker 2: evidence is circumstantial, I rest my case.

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Speaker 1: Your client's going to prison. Like that doesn't actually win

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Speaker 1: the case for you.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, lots of circumstantial evidence combined is

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Speaker 4: far more reliable than one eye witness, because the data

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Speaker 4: reflects that eyewitnesses get things wrong all the time, because

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Speaker 4: they misremember, because they don't recognize people as well as

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Speaker 4: they should have.

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Speaker 1: That's the data.

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Speaker 4: Circumstantial evidence strung together is actually far more powerful. And

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Speaker 4: I always use this analogy, but I think it's a

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Speaker 4: good one.

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Speaker 1: You go to bed clay, you know.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes my wife tells me to take out the trash,

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Speaker 2: and what I hear is keep watching the US open.

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Speaker 2: That's right, good match, you know, I mean, that's what

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Speaker 2: my brain tells me.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 4: You're an eyewitness to something that may not have actually occurred.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, let me just say this circumstantial evidence.

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Speaker 4: This ends the argument once and for all that circumstantial

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Speaker 4: evidence is always bad. But it's such a good one

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Speaker 4: that many of us are taught in law school. You

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Speaker 4: go to bed at night, it has not snowed. You

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Speaker 4: close your blinds, you close your curtains, You go to bed.

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Speaker 4: You wake up the next morning there are ten inches

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Speaker 4: of snow on the ground outside of your home. You

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Speaker 4: are not an eyewitness to snowfall. The fact that the

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Speaker 4: snow fell from your perspective is circumstantial. You went to bed,

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Speaker 4: it wasn't there. You woke up and it was there.

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Speaker 4: Still pretty good evidence that the snow fell.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this a lot on these is trumped up.

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Speaker 2: This is from the comoters that that clip was from

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Speaker 2: the Comedy Seller podcast Comedy Seller Live podcast, just to

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Speaker 2: give credit to that.

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Speaker 1: And oh we've got some Korean Jean Pierre clips.

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Speaker 2: Now, why is it that Joe Biden did not wear

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Speaker 2: a mask with the recipient of the Medal of Honor

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Speaker 2: yesterday Vietnam Medal of Honor recipient. You might have seen

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Speaker 2: the video which also Biden left early. We mentioned the

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Speaker 2: top of the show. People said, what's that all about?

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Speaker 2: You know, if like Biden should be able to stick

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Speaker 2: through the whole thing. Here is, first off, why he

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Speaker 2: didn't wear a mask at all. Play twenty and.

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Speaker 7: Just start with what the ceremony was all about, because

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Speaker 7: it's incredibly important. The President took off his mask as

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Speaker 7: I said he would, to deliver incredibly powerful remarks about

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Speaker 7: this captain, Captain Taylor, and what he did in service

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Speaker 7: to our nation, and we wanted to honor the captain.

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Speaker 7: And for a brief time afterwards, he also didn't have

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Speaker 7: his mask on, as you just laid out.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Clay, this is so, this is so dumb.

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Speaker 2: But this has been true of the mask people, the

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Speaker 2: mask advocates all along here, which is that it's as

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Speaker 2: though they say it's super important that everybody wears a

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Speaker 2: raincoat because if you get wet, you're never gonna get

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Speaker 2: dry and it's gonna be terrible, and they go, but

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna take it off for a few

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Speaker 2: minutes because it's really important.

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Speaker 1: Well, which is it, right? I mean, it can't be both,

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Speaker 1: and that is what they do with masks. This is important.

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Speaker 4: Yesterday Karine Jean Pierre said that Joe Biden would be

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Speaker 4: wearing a mask indoors everywhere because Joe Biden tested positive

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Speaker 4: for COVID and he was going to be as protective

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Speaker 4: as he could. Also, yesterday, Joe Biden did not wear

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Speaker 4: any mask at all for the entire ceremony, honoring to

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Speaker 4: his credit, Captain Taylor. I want to make sure we

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Speaker 4: give credit to Captain Taylor Medal of Honor recipient hero

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Speaker 4: for what he did in Vietnam War. But so now,

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Speaker 4: the standard is, if Joe Biden has to deliver a

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Speaker 4: powerful speech, or if he has to speak to a

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Speaker 4: heroic individual, then there's no need to wear the mask.

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Speaker 1: So what is the standard here?

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Speaker 4: The standard is, according to Karine Jean Pierre, if he

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Speaker 4: has to say something powerful, or if he has to

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Speaker 4: be involved in an important proceeding, then he doesn't need

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Speaker 4: to wear the mask.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is no different.

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Speaker 4: This is even worse, arguably than the hey wear your

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Speaker 4: mask between bites on an airplane, or pull down your

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Speaker 4: mask or my favorite this may be my total favorite.

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Speaker 4: Buck can you have to wear a mask to walk

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Speaker 4: to your restaurant table, but as soon as you set down,

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Speaker 4: you can take off the mask and consume all the

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Speaker 4: food that you want. Because everybody knows COVID only travels

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Speaker 4: at eye level, and once you are seated, you're all safe.

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Speaker 4: I mean this is all so stupid, yet they're trying

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Speaker 4: Welcome Back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Joe Biden

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Speaker 4: just walked into another venue in the White House not

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Speaker 4: wearing a mask and said that they told him that

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Speaker 4: he's supposed to be wearing one for ten days, but

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Speaker 4: he wants the press to not report that he wasn't

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Speaker 4: wearing a mask.

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Speaker 1: Do we have this audio? I mean, it's very strange

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Speaker 1: behavior by Biden. Twenty one.

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Speaker 4: Let's listen to this and then I want to bring

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Speaker 4: in a guy who is still dealing with the aftermath

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Speaker 4: of not being willing to wear a mask, Kylon in

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Speaker 4: Santa Cruz, California. But first, here's Biden's strange commentary to

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Speaker 4: the White House press.

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Speaker 1: Could today Floyd.

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Speaker 8: Murder explained to the press, I've been tested again today.

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Speaker 8: I'm clear across the boards, but they keep telling me.

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Speaker 8: Because this has to be ten days or something. I

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Speaker 8: got to keep wearing it, But don't tell him I

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Speaker 8: didn't have it on.

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Speaker 4: My walk in Okay, So Buck Joe Biden Press secretary

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Speaker 4: said he's always going to be wearing a mask indoors.

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Speaker 4: But Joe Biden continues to show up for White House

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Speaker 4: events and refuse to wear the mask. So what's actually

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Speaker 4: going on here? I mean, this is becoming somewhat interesting.

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Speaker 4: I mean, is he rebelling against his own White House?

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Speaker 2: It's obvious to anybody who looks at it. I think

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Speaker 2: it's a political allegiance tool. It's effectively your willingness to

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Speaker 2: do what they want you to do, and to bend

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Speaker 2: the knee and to accept all the stupidity is just

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Speaker 2: a sign that you're going to be part of the

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Speaker 2: in group with the left and the Democrats. There's no

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Speaker 2: sign it is impossible. Look at doctor McCarey has never

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Speaker 2: bsked us once here, correct. You know, he's never gotten

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Speaker 2: ahead of where the data is. He's never you know,

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Speaker 2: he's been very cautious about what he's willing to say

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Speaker 2: what he's not, But he's always been the data. I

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Speaker 2: asked them straight up, could any medical practitioner resent you

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Speaker 2: with a case for masking for example, that would withstand

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Speaker 2: and make sense.

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Speaker 1: He said, they're too scared to even try, and he's right,

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Speaker 1: of course, he's right. All right.

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Speaker 4: I want Kylon in Santa Cruz, who is with us now?

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Speaker 4: He called in to tell his story. Kylon, you're out

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Speaker 4: in California. Explain what happened to you as a result

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Speaker 4: of a mask mandate. And I believe this was in

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty three. Just give us the full story.

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Speaker 5: Sure, thank you so much for having me on. And

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Speaker 5: it sounds like Biden needs to be fired for not

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Speaker 5: wearing a.

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Speaker 3: Mask to me, no doubt.

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Speaker 5: Well so, yeah, I work as a musician in town

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Speaker 5: and I was let go from a long time position

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Speaker 5: a couple of years ago for not getting the vaccine

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Speaker 5: and was unable to get gigs for a couple of

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Speaker 5: years because of the vaccine mandates at all the venues

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Speaker 5: and schools in town. Those have been slowly rolled back

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Speaker 5: and I have been got a few new positions, including

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Speaker 5: at this small private school working with their music department.

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Speaker 5: I was hired, I went through the whole background process

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Speaker 5: and everything background check, and was set to start and

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Speaker 5: I got a message saying that they were returning to

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Speaker 5: masks for all the students, and so I asked the

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Speaker 5: music director. I said, well, during choir class, singing is

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Speaker 5: there's a lot of breath control, and we saw the

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Speaker 5: death of choirs for several years as no one really

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Speaker 5: wanted to come. Who wants you got to wear your

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Speaker 5: mask all day. The last thing you want to do

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Speaker 5: is sing into your mask, and it requires certain mouth positions,

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Speaker 5: certain breath control, and as a choir instructor, it completely

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Speaker 5: impedes your ability to effectively teach the class. So I

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Speaker 5: was told the Health Department was going to reach out

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Speaker 5: to me and talk about my concerns and maybe the

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Speaker 5: possibility that kids could sing in class. A day before

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Speaker 5: I was supposed to start. This is just two days ago,

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Speaker 5: I received an email letting me go essentially because of

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Speaker 5: my question. So instead of being contacted by the Health Department,

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Speaker 5: they just chose to just fire me.

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Speaker 4: Okay, hold on, I want to get make sure we

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Speaker 4: get this right. You were fired two days ago by

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Speaker 4: a California school because you didn't want acquire students to

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Speaker 4: be forced to wear masks while they sing.

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Speaker 5: And it wasn't even that it was I had just

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Speaker 5: raised my concern it was, and I was supposed to

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Speaker 5: speak with the health department, so they just skipped that

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Speaker 5: whole part completely and went straight to the firing instead

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Speaker 5: of having this conversation with me.

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Speaker 2: Are you sure that, I mean they did they give

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Speaker 2: you this reason for termination? Are they going to claim

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Speaker 2: there was some other reason?

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Speaker 5: I posted on my sub stack and with a screenshot

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Speaker 5: of the email, saying, because of your concerns raised about

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Speaker 5: the mask mandates, we decided to moving in another direction.

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Speaker 5: Those are the words.

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Speaker 2: So I have some people. Make sure you give your

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Speaker 2: information to our producers, because I have some people you

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Speaker 2: should talk to on the legal side. I got some friends,

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Speaker 2: so we got I got some ideas here, my friend,

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Speaker 2: we'll keep pushing on this one.

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Speaker 5: I really appreciate it. I mean, this is something that's

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Speaker 5: in real life but in digital as well. I wrote

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Speaker 5: one song criticizing Tony Fauci last year, and my entire

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Speaker 5: YouTube channel was removed over the fifteen year YouTube channel.

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Speaker 1: YouTube YouTube.

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Speaker 2: People have to realize I thought that I actually and

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Speaker 2: by the way, our caller, I appreciate you very much.

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Speaker 1: What's what's your substacks? People can check it out.

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Speaker 5: It's foundering f O U N D R I N G.

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Speaker 5: Found ring at substack.

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Speaker 4: All right, that's up on clayanbuck dot com, so people

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Speaker 4: can go read that and the full story as he

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Speaker 4: has written it as well, because it's pretty crazy to

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Speaker 4: think about Buck.

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Speaker 2: Is that crazier or is it crazier when for band

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Speaker 2: practice they were cutting holes in masks for the obo players,

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Speaker 2: which is a real thing that happened in America in

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Speaker 2: the last two years.

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Speaker 1: I'm just wondering what I was gonna say. That's crazy, Buck.

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Speaker 4: They also had those like personal protective like ten the bubbles,

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Speaker 4: the bubbles, I don't even know what those things were called,

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Speaker 4: and you were supposed.

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Speaker 1: To stand inside of them and play an instrument.

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Speaker 2: I used to go to a I used to go

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Speaker 2: to a park during the pandemic right along the West

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Speaker 2: Side Highway, and they had set up like social distancing

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Speaker 2: circles for people. So you're outside, but you have to

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Speaker 2: be And as we know, guys, they're they're they haven't

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Speaker 2: admitted any of this is wrong.

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Speaker 1: That's there you have to remember.

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Speaker 2: And so if you think just ignoring it will make

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Speaker 2: it go away, it absolutely absolutely will not.

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting here. It is. It is unfathomable that this

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Speaker 1: is where we are with all this clay. Honestly, it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy I and and for people out there who

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Speaker 4: may be fortunate enough to live where I do in

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Speaker 4: Tennessee or where you do in Florida. I think some

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Speaker 4: of this COVID insanity can be, uh can be you know,

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Speaker 4: forgotten about because our politicians have been so aggressive and

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Speaker 4: making sure that we don't go through this again. But remember,

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Speaker 4: there has been no reckoning. No Democrat politician lost their

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Speaker 4: job because they got everything wrong on COVID. They all

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Speaker 4: are in boldened. They're all convinced that their decision making

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Speaker 4: was ratified by the votes in twenty twenty two, and

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Speaker 4: they're going to do it again. This is why you

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Speaker 4: can't have consequence free decision making. I keep hammering at

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Speaker 4: home because we're now in football season. We hold our

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Speaker 4: high school, college and pro football coaches to higher standards

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Speaker 4: than we do our politician. It's staggering that we could

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Speaker 4: have reached this position, but this is where we are again.

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Speaker 4: There are kindergarteners right now in public school in Maryland

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Speaker 4: being forced to wear in ninety five masks all day

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Speaker 4: over COVID, right.

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Speaker 2: Now this should just say for choir practice only. Like

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Speaker 2: the fully hooded respirators with the breathing apparatus try and

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Speaker 2: sing through that