WEBVTT - Tommy Fleetwood 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:03.480 It's the Son of a Butch podcast. I'm your host, 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:07.600 Claude Harmon. This week's guest definitely someone that I've been 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:10.239 trying to get on the podcast for a very very 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:13.320 long time. We're trying to match schedules, and he was 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:17.000 over in Florida right around the end of last year 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:19.800 and got to spend some time with him. Tommy Fleetwood listen. 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:22.360 I'm a huge Tommy Fleetwood fan. I love his golf swing. 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:24.439 I think his golf swing's one of the best in 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:27.840 the game. I like the way he plays, but as 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:30.040 a person is just such a great guy. Works with 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:34.040 my dad, Butch Harmon now lives in Dubai. We've done 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:36.840 some work in our junior program with his two boys, 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:38.840 Oscar and Craig, who we talk about in the pod. 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:41.200 And I'm just like I said, I'm just a fan. 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:43.159 I think it's only a matter of time before he 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:46.920 wins a major, wins a big tournament. That's kind of 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:49.280 the game that I think he has. But I think 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:51.760 he's one of the coolest guys in the game of 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:54.160 golf and someone who if he's hitting golf balls on 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:55.760 the range, I will stop and take a look at 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:58.800 the golf swing, so really really good one. This is 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:03.920 Tommy Fleet would Tommy, We've been trying to do this 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:06.720 for a while, so it's kind of cool to do it. 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:09.280 End of the year for you twenty twenty four, as 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:11.440 a player told me, when you look at your season, 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:13.640 how do you grade it? I mean, as coaches, I 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:15.240 know how we look at our players and gread it. 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:17.600 But I'm always interested as a player. I mean, you 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:21.520 only miss two cuts, four top tens, third at the Masters. 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.759 I mean solid year. You won on is it DP 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:26.679 World at the beginning of the year, but no wins, 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:29.759 but a bunch of top twenty fives. I think you're 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:31.080 one of the best players in the game. I think 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:32.800 you've got one of the best golf swings in the game. 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:35.240 But when you grade, you sell that. 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:37.680 I have to say that, trust me, I don't. 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:41.479 When you grade yourself. What's the grade you give this year? 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:44.039 I think, I think it's been a good jet And 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:48.960 I always like I struggle with I struggle with grades 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:54.360 because it's like, you know, what what is what? What 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:57.760 is this successful? You know exactly what Sky going to 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:00.120 give himself because if Skuy's giving himself an A and 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:02.760 now I'm like a you like, but you know, I 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:04.800 think I've had I think I've had a really good year, 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:08.679 and I think, you know, there's there's two sides of it. 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:11.000 There's there's a at the end of the day, obviously, 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:13.520 the results are kind of the only thing that matters 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:15.639 because they're the things in black and white. But there's 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:17.560 also a level of performance. There's where your game has 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:21.480 been at. And I think I've played very, very consistent, 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:24.520 almost as consistent as I've ever been, if not the 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:31.640 most consistent with I would say enough like disappointment in 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:35.239 there and kind of on the edge of yeah, it's 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:38.000 on the edge of me competing a lot for tournaments, 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:41.200 whereas I've just been just a fraction off. So enough 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:45.640 of that to keep you, keep you motivated, keep you 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:48.360 like striving for more in a way, So I've had 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:49.600 a good year. And like you say, when you when 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:52.120 you rattle it off, you know, I did win. At 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:55.080 the start of the year, Masters was a you know, 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:58.880 a great week. The Olympics was something that was unbelievably 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:04.520 and then you know, I made it again. I think 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:07.480 it's under it's underrated how hard it is to make 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:11.480 it to Atlanta, to make it to East Lake, and 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:12.760 you know, I was having a you know, I had 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:15.160 a solid year on the DP world so two, so 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:17.920 there was a lot of good. How do I grade it, 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:20.480 I'm not quite sure. I just know that I'm happy 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:24.120 with a lot and unhappy enough to keep working, you know, 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:25.600 to keep working hard and wanting more. 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:27.080 What do you feel like you're better at the end 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:30.600 of this season in twenty twenty four than you were 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:31.119 last year? 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:35.000 Now? That is that is a great question. I think 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:40.840 my level of play across the board is probably fractionally higher. 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:44.960 I think I've definitely played more consistent this year. I 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:46.600 probably had better results last year. 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:48.680 It's funny how that can happen. 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:50.560 But I've been more consistent and I've been. 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:54.400 More consistent, but the results don't show it exactly. So 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:57.520 that's such a weird one because it is you as 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:01.960 the player know what and as the outside looking in 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:04.200 my my role of scorch, I can never get in 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.120 the players heads, bodies and stuff. So there will be 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:09.800 times where I think one of the guys will play 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:11.440 good and I didn't really play that good day, and 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:13.240 I'm like, dude, you played good, and they're like, yeah, 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:16.240 I wasn't good. And then there's times where I'll think 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:17.960 they've played bad and they're gonna Actually I have played 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:22.680 pretty good so this year And you say you feel 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:26.120 like you're more consistent this year for you, what does 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:29.200 that mean? And how do you explain what being more 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.440 consistent this year versus last year is? 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:34.440 I would say, so I had I had three or 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:36.560 four really bad days, I would say there was one 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.800 at bay Hill where I'd lost my swing, and I 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:42.640 don't I can't remember how many balls in the water 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.760 on the the part five at sixth and the day 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:52.960 the day got away and the Open. This year I 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:55.200 played really poor when I expected more for myself. But 0:04:55.839 --> 0:05:01.840 in general, my bad days have been better. My game has, 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.039 like we can week in week out, whether you have 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:07.120 you know, one or two sort of dodgy days in 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:10.279 practice and then you might not quite play one over 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:12.839 the period of four day Tournamentich you know, you know 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:14.839 you're never going to play great for seventy two holes. 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:20.919 Yeah did back in the day, But I think that 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:22.839 has been at a high level. My lower end, like 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:26.040 I said, aside from like one or two like outrageously 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:28.880 poor days, but in general, like my lower end has 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:30.839 been has been that bit better. So that's kept me 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:35.120 in results wise, that has kept my lower end higher, 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:37.200 so that that's been really good. I didn't put like 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:39.240 I so I had. I had a really good spell 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:41.600 of putting in the middle of the year, and then 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:43.760 from the summer onwards I started I just I struggled 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:45.599 a bit, like and you have to you have periods 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:49.279 when you look at because we're just talking about a year, 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:52.520 but like you always assess the year, but you never 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.760 assess like four years or five years or three year 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.080 in the cycle. And eventually I remember saying that. I 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:02.159 remember I was. I was at the Masters in twenty 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:05.680 one maybe, and I was I was playing really bad, 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:08.320 you know, I was playing rubbish. And I remember speaking 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:09.760 to Marko Mira and he was talking about the game. 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:11.480 He says, you've been playing really well, and I said, well, actually, 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:12.800 I said, I've been on a bit of a bad 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:15.599 stretch and you know, I've struggled here and I can't 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:17.200 remember what my bill dranking had gone down to. And 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:19.200 he just looked at me and he went, well, yeah, 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:21.719 it's golf, like it's called golf. And he's gone, like, 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.080 you'll you know these things when you look at it 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:26.360 over time, like, it's not that bad. It's just like 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:30.680 a slight dip compared to you know, the rest of 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:33.400 the rest of the time. So I think you obviously 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:37.560 boiled things down to a year and yeah, the second 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:39.080 half of the year, like somewher onwards, I could have 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:42.000 put it better in a lot of tournaments and that 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:43.760 probably cost me a bit, But in general I put 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:45.960 it well at the you know, middle part of the year, 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:49.960 drove it really well. I'm played pretty good. Yeah, where 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:52.520 am I compared to a year ago? It's a great question. 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:54.440 I would say just a little bit more consistent lower 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:55.680 end was that fraction bit better. 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:58.559 I think the fans always hate it when guys play 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:01.360 well and they go, yeah, I didn't have my game today. Yeah, 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:03.040 but it is I think at the level that you 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.520 guys are trying to play at, at the elite tour level, 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:10.600 it is trying to make your bad days that little 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:13.760 bit better so that they keep you in the rounds. 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:18.520 I don't think the average golfer realizes how quickly you 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:21.680 can go from kind of being in the mix on 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.920 the leader board to one bad hole on a Thursday 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:27.160 or Friday, and you're like Okay, I'm on the cut 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:29.920 all I'm on the cut all day on Thursday today, 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.560 I'll be on the cut all day on Friday. For 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:36.600 everyone listening, Tommy, how can everybody's bottom end, they're bad 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:41.120 days get better? Do you feel like that's a technique thing? 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:43.800 Because one of the things that I am very passionate 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:49.240 about is this balance between technique and execution. And I 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:52.600 think everybody listening to this podcast, every time they play 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:55.080 well or play poorly, they just go, I gotta go 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:57.680 to the range. It's got to be my technique. And 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:01.000 I think at the elite profession all tour level that 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:04.800 you play, the margins are so small. So how do 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:07.800 you and your head go about making the bottom end better? 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:11.200 And give me something that our listeners could say, Listen, 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:15.680 let me try that non golf swing related, non technique related, 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:18.240 because as I say all the time, and I use 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:22.240 you as an example, everybody in the game is trying 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:25.560 to improve their technique. And I'm not blowing smoke up 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:27.680 your euse. I watch you hit golf balls if I've 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:31.240 got time. I think you have one of the best 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:34.320 golf swings in the game. I just I love the 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:36.960 way you swing the golf club. But there's so much 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:40.360 more to it performing than just swinging the golf club. 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:44.199 So making that bottom end the not so great rounds better, 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.200 how do you go about that? And how can the 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:51.160 average golfer try and make their not so great rounds 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:52.280 not so destructive? 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:59.840 For me, I think consistency of a certain amount of habits, 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:02.160 you know, keeps you in and around when you do 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:06.040 play well. And I, you know, like everyone else, I 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:09.240 have days where my swing feels way off, like feels 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:09.800 when you. 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.800 Feel like as the type of player you are. I mean, 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:16.960 for everyone listening, their golf swing always feels off right. 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:19.240 For the rest of us, Tommy, our golf swings always 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:21.600 feel shit right, it always feels But for you, when 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.800 you say your golf swing feels off, what is that 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:28.280 feeling like to you? And what does that mean to you? 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:33.160 Probably I could boil it down to a couple of things. 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:36.680 It's not contact right. You never you guys, you guys 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:39.360 don't ever not hit the golf ball solid, come on. 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:41.600 Compare to everyone else. 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:42.920 For me, it would be a couple of things. My 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:45.559 transition feels like it's got no time whatsoever, So. 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:49.719 Get quick in change of direction from backswing to down. 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:51.640 So then impact is never where I feel like it's 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:52.839 going to be in terms of time. 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:56.080 I've never heard that, but that makes sense because everybody 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:58.880 always talks about the backswing getting quick or the downswing 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:01.839 getting quick, but I've never heard would someone say that 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.880 then makes the impact quicker as well, So you have 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:05.880 less time exactly. 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:07.080 I know where I want to hit it, and I 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:09.320 know when I should hit it, and when I'm out, 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:11.560 I'm not hitting it at that point. So then but 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:16.000 then for me, transition will be quick and I hang 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.160 back on it. But what that does is it brings 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:21.640 in two misses. Yeah, you know the left. The club 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:24.440 can be going left and I can hit it left 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:26.920 or obviously one I don't want to hit it left. 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:30.120 I'll hold on to it, or you know, back up 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:33.560 and it will be going way right. So then and 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:35.760 then I actually remember it. Your your dad told me this. 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:38.040 I remember speaking to him about it, and he went, well, 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:40.559 if you've got two missus where you're going to aim, that's. 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:44.480 That's that is. That is the problem with the double. 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:46.720 Miss And so it's. 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:48.400 Halfway through the round You're like, okay, I've rinsed a 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:50.600 couple left I've blocked a couple of ways. 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:56.439 Right, You're like, because I've got I've got nothing, and 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.600 so like for for me though, I think talking about 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.480 that bottom and I think I've been better at noticing 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:05.360 when that is going right. And I've just had a 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:08.040 couple of habits. I have some start line drills that 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:09.360 I'll do hitting between sticks. 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.520 Everybody has seen all the stuff that you do on 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:14.839 social where you put alignment sticks in the ground really close, 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:17.520 but then that stick in front for you that helps 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:20.679 you do what and it helps you visualize. 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:24.160 What Every range is different, and every range can easily 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:26.480 trick your eye. You just adapt to whatever you're seeing 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:32.000 on any range, and I have been as we and 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.360 still sometimes you still don't figure it out. But I'll 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:37.280 be there thinking I'm hitting it, you know, really poor, 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:40.880 and the range will be on like a downhill slope, 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:43.040 and the wind will be off the left, and I'm like. 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.520 Which wind do you hate for practicing. 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:50.440 Off the left? In off the left? Why? Because you 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.199 just start pulling it and shutting the face down to 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:55.880 counteract the fact, Well, you can't react that. And then 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:58.000 the thing is when you pull over it with your 0:11:58.000 --> 0:11:59.960 body of the club gets behind you, so then that'll 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.240 bring the right in as well, and it just that's 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:03.680 the one that gets you the most out of sync. 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:06.040 And you can feel like you're absolutely flushing it on 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:09.280 the range because you'll hit these like drilled strong flights 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:11.640 that are it goes and it goes nowhere, but it 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:13.400 just looks so it looks so good and you're like 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:14.960 hipping it and then you get on the course and 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:16.839 your timing's all out because you've been pulling it over. 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:18.880 You've got the club face shut and that that's like 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.360 that that's the worst win to practice him. 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:22.719 Do you like your golf swing? Do you like the 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:26.120 way it looks when you look at your own golf swing? 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:30.760 Are you able to detach yourself from the forest and 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:34.199 kind of look at the trees and kind of go yeah? 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:38.160 Or or here's another one whose golf swings? Do you like? 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:42.320 Whose golf swings do you look at and go that's pretty? 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:48.199 I love Scottishcheffer's girl sing. I love Xander's girl sing. 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:51.040 I mean world number one and two, but I you know, 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:53.840 I love looking at like Okay, so let's. 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:56.440 Let's break that down. Scotty's golf swing isn't one that 0:12:56.640 --> 0:13:00.120 anyone is currently trying to copy, right, everybody, If we 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.800 if we asked everybody listening to this podcast, whose golf 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:06.439 swing would you be trying to copy, most people are 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:09.439 going to say yours over Scoutti's. And it's something I've 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:14.120 said before. My uncle Billy, my dad's youngest brother, we 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:15.959 were on the range. I say this all the time, 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:18.880 but it's an important one. We were on the range. 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:21.600 Duvall was hitting balls and Tigers hitting balls. Is when 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:23.559 they were friends. Number one, number two in the world, 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:26.480 and my uncle Billy, I said this recently on the podcast, 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:29.280 but I'll keep saying it. He's like, nobody's trying to 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:31.880 swing golf club like David Duvall. Right, nobody's trying to 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:33.880 teach that. Nobody's trying to get the club based shut 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:36.640 like that move the body. He's like, everybody is trying 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:39.480 to swing the golf club like Tiger Adam Scott. And 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:42.880 he said two of the greatest ball strikers he's ever seen, 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:46.040 hailerwin Shut took it inside, came over it it Fades 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:50.240 won three majors, three US opened tons of tournaments, Trevino 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:54.280 wide open stance, took it outside, dropped it under. So 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:57.080 when you look at Scotty Scheffler's swing, what do you 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.720 like about Obviously you know it performed well, so you 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:03.320 love that part about it. Right, When people ask me 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:05.280 about golf swings, I always say, who do you like? 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:07.959 I always say, are you talking aesthetics or are you 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:12.160 talking function? Because of its function, the route is going 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.400 to be very different. And if it's aesthetics, it's going 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.439 to be guys like you and Nelly and Adam Scott. 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:19.200 I mean, I was with Scutty in Dubai a couple 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:21.000 of weeks ago when he was there. I mean, I've 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:24.000 known him since he was nineteen twenty, and I'm watching 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:28.400 him ball and I'm just like, Adam's golf swing reminds 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:29.560 me of when I was a kid. I used to 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:32.000 watch Freddy Couples hit golf balls. You're just like, that's 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:36.600 the coolest thing. Adam's rhythm has never changed. So Scotty 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:38.520 Scheffler's golf swing, what do you like about it? 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:42.720 I think it's set up is perfect. 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:46.640 He and Randy worked the grip, the way he's constantly 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.440 checking his grip, and I love the fact that if 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:53.360 he plays poorly or if he plays well, they'll go 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:56.080 to the range and he is working on his setup 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:59.080 actively while they're working on some of the other stuff. 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:04.000 But I now this, this will sound crazy when I 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.960 say it, so like if I if I sort of 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:09.120 went through the things that I like about Scotty's golf swing. 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:11.000 I think he's set ups perfect, and I think his 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:14.800 grit's perfect. I think his takeaway is great. I think 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:17.240 he has loads of room at the top and time 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:22.760 doesn't lose. And then I actually think he's His golf 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:26.240 swing is actually really quiet through the ball, And it 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:27.520 sounds stupid. 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:29.800 But it is. But it's really if you understand how 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:32.680 the ground works and how people's yeah, feet work. 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.840 Is unbelievably quiet through the ball, and his club's sew 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:36.920 in control and that. 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:38.520 And it looks so out of control. 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:40.800 I know that it's crazy, but like when you when 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:43.640 you look at it, you know certain pictures or like 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:47.320 slow most swings, and you look at where you know 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.720 how the club works, how his body works with the club, 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:55.000 how everything's always supported like yeah, and by the way 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:57.520 it seems to work. Okay, So give me some shots. 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:01.280 You've seen him hit in tournaments under competition where you 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:03.600 look at your Caddy Fin and go. Yeah that was 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:04.080 pretty good. 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:07.280 Now, yeah, now that's a good question. Playing with him. 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:11.000 I'm not so like playing with him. See, everybody always 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:14.720 describes Scotty as like unbelievably impressive without being impressive, and 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:16.640 I think that's a massive compliment to him. But like 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:18.280 I would look at shots. Now, I wasn't playing with 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:20.920 him at the time, but I Shane. 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:21.960 Lowry said this when I had him on the pod 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:23.600 when you were talking about Scotty, and he said he played 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:25.840 with him at bay Hill, you know, and and when 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:30.680 he won, and he was like, he, Rory impresses you, Right, 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:34.640 Rory has the ability to impress you with the speed, 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:36.120 the lengthy some of. 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:38.280 The shot he hits, shots that you're like, well, I 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:38.640 can't do it. 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:40.720 I don't have it, I can't take that. 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.200 But at the same time, Scotty is almost more infuriating 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:45.680 because you're looking at him and you're like, I should 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:46.240 be able to do it. 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:46.760 And I can't do it. 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:49.280 He does it all the time and I never do it, 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:51.000 And it's like he's more infuriating. 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:54.520 Is there an underrated part of his game? Because right 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:57.920 now everything is kind of the ship And I mean, 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:00.200 but is there something you like that and go he 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.400 doesn't get enough credit for doing that. 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:06.000 I think his short game is unbelievable, Joe, And like 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:08.440 when you when you rack it all up. So he's been, 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:11.240 has it? He's been number one off the tea? 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:13.960 Has he been number one of th category? Is not 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:14.480 number one? 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:16.520 But but like you know, like unbelievable driver of the 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:18.800 golf ball. His iron players off the charts and the 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:19.920 best and the best in the world. 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:24.280 He hits four irons and five irons as good as Yeah, 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:27.760 like his long iron game is a joke. 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:29.639 Good, But then we go on that and then he's 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:32.879 arguably got the best short game in the world. So 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:34.639 then I mean, like what are we left with. 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:39.119 Everybody says, well, the weekly in his game is his putting, 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:43.119 and I'm like, straight, you can't win the win the 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:44.720 tournaments he's winning and be a bad part. 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:47.320 He puts great, And it's always the same thing when 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.960 when somebody hits it that well and they put themselves in. 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:53.960 The proximity that he does like to gain on the 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:57.399 greens is very very difficult, like the proximity that he 0:17:57.480 --> 0:17:59.520 hits it. But he has his putting phenomena this year 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:04.000 he's done. He's done amazing work with Phil Kenyan, who 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:06.160 I've worked with for a long time and I know him, 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:07.920 you know, very close to him from a young age. 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:11.240 So that's been really nice to see like how that 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:13.879 work has paid off and the way that they've worked. 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:18.879 But yeah, I mean his ball control really for me. 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:22.520 And you know, you go back to, like, you know, 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:25.159 the shots that he hits that you always think, well, yeah, 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:26.760 you know, I feel like I should be able to 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:28.679 do that. But the amount of control he has, the 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:33.239 amount of confidence he has in it, and then you know, 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:37.360 you look at emotions wise and how mentally strong he's been. 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:42.119 And his approach and the way he kind of lives 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:44.760 his life both on and off the golf course is 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:46.720 a massive superpower for him. 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:49.439 Yeah, and it's almost like, actually, you know when you 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:51.360 talk about it like this and you think about underrated 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:54.760 part his mental energy, Like you know, he won what 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:57.280 eight times nine times? Like to be able to do that, 0:18:57.359 --> 0:19:00.359 I mean, he played them. He wins the Masters and 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:04.320 then just turns up at hilton Head and like wins again, 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:07.480 and like I totally you know, I understand how big 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:10.840 of an event Hiltonhead is. Still just want the Masters, 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:14.919 like you're all right if you just feel like a 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:17.320 bit tired and you're like, oh, you know, I'll you know, 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:20.520