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Speaker 4: All right, kick it off on Friday. We finally got
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Speaker 4: Let's start on an upbeat note because we know that
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Speaker 4: of a segment. How are you today?
Speaker 6: Kurt Good?
Speaker 8: Ready for the weekend?
Speaker 4: Ready for the weekend? Jesse great? Great, Nate deep breath, wos,
Speaker 4: I'm good, Chris, how are you today?
Speaker 9: Wonderful?
Speaker 4: Thank you man behind the curtain. All right, I'm doing great.
Speaker 4: Thanks for asking. Yes, I'm good. I'm good. It's Friday.
Speaker 6: It's football Fridays, counting count.
Speaker 5: Is it every other Friday? I don't remember now. So
Speaker 5: you know you got too much money? No, got to
Speaker 5: think about a lot of money when you don't know
Speaker 5: when the.
Speaker 4: Checks come when you watching.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it'll get here, when it gets here.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Shout out to my boy, Big Robin the accountant. I
Speaker 5: wish Rob.
Speaker 7: How are you?
Speaker 10: Rob?
Speaker 4: I hope you're listening. How miss k how are you?
Speaker 4: I know you're listening? All right, fellas, the season is
Speaker 4: not over. That's just my opinion. Everybody that was sending
Speaker 4: me d MS and texting me we good. I feel
Speaker 4: terrible for Trayvon Diggs. I feel awful for him, for
Speaker 4: his family because you guys know that road to recovery
Speaker 4: is not easy. It takes dedication it mentally, I'm sure
Speaker 4: it just wipes you out and for him as a
Speaker 4: the game of football is a very unforgiving, uncaring game
Speaker 4: and at any time. This is why I don't ever
Speaker 4: have a problem with the player holding out or a
Speaker 4: player trying to get his money, because you never know,
Speaker 4: like who knows what recovery's gonna be, how long it's
Speaker 4: gonna take, if you ever get back to where you
Speaker 4: if you ever play football, you know with an injury.
Speaker 4: So I don't ever have a problem with the player
Speaker 4: holding out, trying to get more money, doing whatever they can,
Speaker 4: because nothing's guaranteed in this league. Hope they don't guarantee contracts.
Speaker 4: Something like this happens and your income stops. You could
Speaker 4: this could be your last down, right, So and well.
Speaker 5: People also don't realize about contracts, like there are two
Speaker 5: kind of A and B sides to every contract. There
Speaker 5: is an active your healthy playing we're paying contract within
Speaker 5: that same contract. There's also an injury you're no longer
Speaker 5: playing a different number we're paying contract, all under the
Speaker 5: same roof. But there's people don't realize at times there
Speaker 5: is an injury part to your contract as you're paid.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, however long that time, sir. And you know
Speaker 4: how it is. You live your lifestyle up to your income.
Speaker 4: That's everyday life, even if you're not an athlete, like
Speaker 4: you adjust your lifestyle and your family lifestyle and where
Speaker 4: you live and how you live, and when you take
Speaker 4: a hit like that, even if you're making a lot
Speaker 4: of money, that's still that's still a big deal, you know.
Speaker 4: So for the person, I feel awful. As far as
Speaker 4: the team, I feel like we talked about it yesterday.
Speaker 4: I think any other season, I would have my head
Speaker 4: down and I would be like, oh no, here we
Speaker 4: go again. And I want to know how you guys
Speaker 4: feel because we haven't talked about this. I feel okay.
Speaker 4: I feel good with Deron Bland, I feel good with
Speaker 4: Jordan Lewis. I feel good with the depth I mean
Speaker 4: i'd feel I don't feel doom and gloom to day.
Speaker 4: I hate it for Trayvon, I hate it. Get well soon, Trayvon.
Speaker 4: But as far as a team and my fandom, I'm
Speaker 4: I am.
Speaker 9: We're good.
Speaker 4: How do you feel?
Speaker 10: Nate?
Speaker 7: Okay? By Jesse, you rub it off.
Speaker 4: As long as I've ever talked of this show.
Speaker 7: No, I'm great. Yeah, I call you yesterday right away.
Speaker 7: Once we got.
Speaker 6: Pasted and he called us, Kurt No, no, he wonted
Speaker 6: respond respond I sure didn't.
Speaker 10: I sure didn't.
Speaker 6: And you already said, oh this boy, you already said
Speaker 6: get to your point. Already said this dude already said
Speaker 6: that if he ain't gonna answer the.
Speaker 5: Phone, got I got twenty five thirty minutes, I don't answer.
Speaker 6: But anyway, I'm good. Once we got past his family,
Speaker 6: the kid, mister Jones, all of that team, I'm good.
Speaker 6: We are good. That team over there should be solid
Speaker 6: and good. I am great, Thank you.
Speaker 5: Kurtin Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 8: I think there's enough depth there shown he can play
Speaker 8: well and seems up up on the outside. Thank you. Thankfully,
Speaker 8: Jordan Lewis came back. You can help you on the inside.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 8: As long as that defensive line is doing their thing,
Speaker 8: I think.
Speaker 4: All right, voice of reason, here we go, bring bring
Speaker 4: us to church. Which way we going with this?
Speaker 5: We are more than good, more than good, We are
Speaker 5: more than good. Like when this happened, like you, like you,
Speaker 5: like you? I felt bad for the player I did.
Speaker 5: I was like, damn, and you know two weeks in
Speaker 5: he was had a great start to the season, right,
Speaker 5: And and trayvon Is is one of the leads are
Speaker 5: this team, great player and it sucks for him. Football
Speaker 5: is a one hundred percent hurt business. It is just
Speaker 5: is and that's that that's the thing that you go
Speaker 5: with every single day. And for those who were wondering
Speaker 5: it happened on Grass, didn't happen on.
Speaker 4: Turch Do we know exactly what happened?
Speaker 6: Have they?
Speaker 5: He was, Uh, yeah, so the story, the report is
Speaker 5: that they were doing one on ones and he went
Speaker 5: up to contest, the ball came down, just didn't land correctly.
Speaker 5: And it happens.
Speaker 6: It happens.
Speaker 5: Those things happen every day. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 5: he's had ten, twelve to fifteen twenty other players where
Speaker 5: he landed more awkwardly and just sometimes the right force,
Speaker 5: the right tension, the right torque, the right turn or
Speaker 5: the wrong I should say, and here we are, but
Speaker 5: I am so confident I have not. We lived through
Speaker 5: the Sean Lee era right where when Sewn Lee went down,
Speaker 5: this they went the crap, it was over. This team
Speaker 5: is built different. Shout out to Will McClay shout out
Speaker 5: to Dan Quinn. Just the depth of this football team,
Speaker 5: both offensively differently defensively, has set themselves up for moments
Speaker 5: like this. Do you replace Trayvon Diggs. No, you're never
Speaker 5: going to be able to replace him. Do you adjust
Speaker 5: to him? Absolutely? And I think this team has more
Speaker 5: than enough to address. You know, I told you I
Speaker 5: tholwd someone the other day, darn Bleded had more interceptions
Speaker 5: last year in Treyvon Dicks. He let this team in interceptions.
Speaker 5: You're not losing a ball hawk. Deron Bland is as
Speaker 5: ballhawkish as as Trayvon Dicks.
Speaker 4: I heard a stat and I don't know if it's true.
Speaker 4: I didn't look it up, but I heard a stat
Speaker 4: that Trayvon Diggs leads the league in interceptions since he
Speaker 4: came into the league, and so does Deron Bland the
Speaker 4: same time. So he's been he's been in the league.
Speaker 4: What a year. This is year two, year two for him,
Speaker 4: he leads the league.
Speaker 5: So so I mean, you're not missing any of that.
Speaker 5: You're not missing size. They're both relatively the same size.
Speaker 5: Trayvon dis is six foot one, Dron Bland is six
Speaker 5: foot Trayvon one ninety five de Ron Blands about two
Speaker 5: hundred pounds. You're not missing a lot. You're still you
Speaker 5: still have the athleticism, you still have all those things.
Speaker 5: Now I get it. You're talking about a guy who
Speaker 5: was first team All Pro, right, and most teams in
Speaker 5: the National Football League don't have two former first team
Speaker 5: All Pros on their roster. I asked the fans the
Speaker 5: other day, name e the starting cornerbacks of the Kansas
Speaker 5: City Chiefs. Don't worry O wait, because most people can't.
Speaker 5: We've had the luxury of having these type of players
Speaker 5: on our roster.
Speaker 10: Now.
Speaker 5: The only place that we do have to worry about
Speaker 5: now is because I do think Deron Bland steps in,
Speaker 5: we won't miss a beat. Jordan Lewis is fine. You know,
Speaker 5: great call by Britt Brown and company to say, you
Speaker 5: know what, don't put this guy on on IR We
Speaker 5: may need him, right, we need you where it can
Speaker 5: get a look too, bit dicey is if we can't
Speaker 5: protect or if we have one, if we have another
Speaker 5: injury in the secondary that's gonna hurt us two. It's
Speaker 5: never the backup guy. It's the backup to the backup guy.
Speaker 10: Right.
Speaker 5: So now, who steps in for dron Blair in those
Speaker 5: moments and you hope that it's Jordan Lewis and you
Speaker 5: know any you know thing like that. So teams don't
Speaker 5: can't pick on a particular guy in the secondary. But
Speaker 5: this team is fine, Fellas, I trust dan Quinn And
Speaker 5: when you lose a player like this, one of the
Speaker 5: great things that we have in dan Quinn is we
Speaker 5: have it coach who is one of the best and
Speaker 5: not only evaluating talent, growing talent, putting talent in the
Speaker 5: proper place, but also scheming up plans to protect and
Speaker 5: to elevate the things that are your stress. This past
Speaker 5: rush ain't going nowhere. Michael Parsons ain't going nowhere. We
Speaker 5: still have the best three headed monster in the secondary,
Speaker 5: in the safety when we're getting Donovan Wilson back, jay
Speaker 5: Ron Curson, Malik Hooker, Stefan Gilmour is still in there now.
Speaker 5: He had to step up and play in that role.
Speaker 5: We are fine. We are fine. This thing is going
Speaker 5: to keep. The loss is more manhole than Grand Canyon,
Speaker 5: Like just think of that way. It ain't It ain't
Speaker 5: a Grand Canyon type of loss. It's a loss. But
Speaker 5: when everything else is surrounded and with this thing, this is,
Speaker 5: this is fine. We're going to be okay. Such for
Speaker 5: Treymon Diggs, this defense will not miss a beat.
Speaker 6: But I tell you what was scared me more than
Speaker 6: that because I called him back two seconds little when
Speaker 6: I got worried to be out his head. That's scared
Speaker 6: because said the backup to the back scared me to die,
Speaker 6: like like you called them like, yeah, bru it's we
Speaker 6: got a bigger problem in it. And I'm not down
Speaker 6: playing how great this kid is over there on the defense,
Speaker 6: but boy, we can't lose. Be honest, y'all.
Speaker 7: I'm telling you now, trust me when I what's his update?
Speaker 8: We have an update Saturday, and they're going and Martin
Speaker 8: are both going to try to go Saturday, and that'll determine.
Speaker 6: That right there.
Speaker 5: Now that's a different story.
Speaker 6: Yes, that works me. Yeah, to lose to.
Speaker 5: Might not have Martin and and be honest, and even
Speaker 5: with Jags, even with just guys over there, still still.
Speaker 6: Took that shot.
Speaker 5: You know, I was, I know.
Speaker 4: I was, And I think for us to be having
Speaker 4: this conversation is a testament Jag shot. It's a testament
Speaker 4: to life. We talked about, you know, is this team
Speaker 4: a legit contender, and yeah, we think they are still
Speaker 4: legit contender exactly, which makes me think this really is
Speaker 4: a content because in years past, I know, I'm living
Speaker 4: in the past night, but that's all.
Speaker 6: But you call it good.
Speaker 4: That's all I know is this would be devastating and
Speaker 4: it would be like, oh my god, who do we have?
Speaker 4: What are we gonna do? They're gonna go at him
Speaker 4: every game and like we're good, and you know what,
Speaker 4: I'm excited. What's the young guy's name that had a
Speaker 4: great camp?
Speaker 5: Scott Jerris Scott Jr.
Speaker 4: Hey injury. Injury creates opportunity, right, step up, Let's go
Speaker 4: see what we got. Maybe we you know, into Ron blame.
Speaker 4: Maybe you have the next Trayvon Diggs.
Speaker 6: Oh jaggs Man, he's maybe a good TV series, but
Speaker 6: you you don't want to be old jag Man.
Speaker 4: Is there anybody? Is there anybody on this team? And
Speaker 4: I think you could probably put Micah in this conversation,
Speaker 4: maybe Dak that if they go down like years past,
Speaker 4: you're like, that's it, don't.
Speaker 5: I'm telling you right now you just named one or
Speaker 5: two of those guys go down. This conversation I'm having
Speaker 5: today different it's it's dooming gloom for me.
Speaker 6: I don't know. Now you stop, man.
Speaker 10: You have your opinion.
Speaker 6: I have mine, and I just believe one of those
Speaker 6: guys go down. We just need to counsel the show.
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Speaker 4: Anthony Anthony, he put us on hold where he's been.
Speaker 10: Let's go, man, let's go.
Speaker 14: Move on.
Speaker 13: Here.
Speaker 10: Bro.
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, oh yeah, it was one good thing. Let's
Speaker 14: just do it like this. Bro. Heil up, young man.
Speaker 14: We need your intro part of the defense, Trevon. And
Speaker 14: what we got to do more is just go ahead
Speaker 14: and put it on people. I was gonna give the
Speaker 14: columns a break, y'all know how I like to play
Speaker 14: and joke. But we got some of the mother hold and
Speaker 14: these people. We got to send a message that no
Speaker 14: more playing sent a message. Man, It's time we don't
Speaker 14: lots to keep player. Man, A part of this is great,
Speaker 14: historically possible defense. So this office is gonna have to
Speaker 14: pick that thing up. This don't have to continue what
Speaker 14: they're doing, and we're gonna beat these boys like twenty
Speaker 14: nine six and keep it rolling.
Speaker 4: All right, Anthony, appreciate the call.
Speaker 6: Appreciate you get to us, Anthony, really do man.
Speaker 4: You know what's on your time, brother?
Speaker 5: You know what's weird like about this season, like when
Speaker 5: you look at like when you look at it, and
Speaker 5: I know that the defense of special teams played some
Speaker 5: parts into this thing, but we make it seem like
Speaker 5: we don't lead the league scoring right now, we offered
Speaker 5: to pick it up, like you do know they're averaging Yeah, but.
Speaker 4: What about the red zone?
Speaker 10: Jesse?
Speaker 5: I mean, come on everything, thirty five points a game
Speaker 5: like at the points, but it's like, wait, we lead
Speaker 5: the league in scoring, like I just I just feel
Speaker 5: like we were not skimming out games. We're not like
Speaker 5: oh boy, who nineteen sixteen wood that was a tough one. No,
Speaker 5: Like these first two games we've been feet kicked up,
Speaker 5: arms behind your hands, behind our heads in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 4: That's just that's just cowboy fans media trained.
Speaker 6: We've trained these people.
Speaker 5: To think no speaking of media, Bart Scott, you, yeah,
Speaker 5: what's going on.
Speaker 6: With what's going on with that? Jee mean?
Speaker 5: First of all, Bar Scott is a notorious Cowboys hater, right,
Speaker 5: weird dude. He's a corn He's a corny dude.
Speaker 4: Like some dudes.
Speaker 5: You try to play this tough guy role. Nobody fears you.
Speaker 5: It's a tough guy roll. You're ultra corny. It's super
Speaker 5: corny on and off the camera. But they're having this
Speaker 5: segment today and of course cowboys are in the A
Speaker 5: block and they're talking about the injury and how that
Speaker 5: would affect and so he goes on this solilo queen.
Speaker 5: But then he stops in the middle of it and
Speaker 5: it goes like Stephen the said talking about Trayvon Diggs.
Speaker 5: If you just wait, something bad will happen. And I'm like, dude,
Speaker 5: how you take a shot. And then what's even worse
Speaker 5: about it is you're supposed to be a part of
Speaker 5: the player fraternity. Like you're despite your your your your
Speaker 5: fandom of who you cheer for or any of that,
Speaker 5: or your dislike or disdain for any team, You're a player.
Speaker 5: You are a part of the fraternity of players, and
Speaker 5: I don't care what team I don't. There's several teams
Speaker 5: in the owners that I do not like. I don't,
Speaker 5: but I am player. When another guy goes down with
Speaker 5: the injury, it's never a time for a joke. It's
Speaker 5: never a time to take a shot. It's never a
Speaker 5: time to get on national TV and say something insensive
Speaker 5: about a dude who just hurt hisself in this type
Speaker 5: of manner. And for you to take a shot like that,
Speaker 5: Bar Scott, screw you, bro, like, screw you, like for real,
Speaker 5: for real, like because it's we're getting to a point
Speaker 5: now where you're getting on TV and you're just saying
Speaker 5: stupid stuff. And I come from a place in an
Speaker 5: era where just you, you just weren't allowed to just
Speaker 5: say certain things and get away with it, like there's
Speaker 5: no consequences to certain things. And I'm not looking at
Speaker 5: causing to cause violence towards Bar Scott, but that's where
Speaker 5: I come from. You just can't. People now in this
Speaker 5: area of social media have gotten so comfortable with saying
Speaker 5: things and having no consequences, and that bothers me because
Speaker 5: some people need to get punched in the face. Some
Speaker 5: people need to get the taste smacked out of them mouth,
Speaker 5: and this is a moment where Bart Scott needs the
Speaker 5: taste smacked out of his mouth for making stupid comments
Speaker 5: like this about a player who literally just got hurt
Speaker 5: twenty four hours ago. It's unnecessary, it's insensitive, it's stupid,
Speaker 5: and it's corny, and you look extra corny doing it.
Speaker 5: My guy, you do you really, really really do. You're
Speaker 5: not tough, you're not funny. You're not even good on TV.
Speaker 5: You're not good on TV.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: It bothers me, man, It bothers me. It bothers me.
Speaker 5: I'm all for the fun I'm all for the jokes,
Speaker 5: and we can have jokes about players who aren't playing good.
Speaker 5: But when someone gets hurt like this and they're lost
Speaker 5: for a season, this has larger ramifications than just what
Speaker 5: team you cheer for or don't want to cheer for,
Speaker 5: you like or you do not want to like. And
Speaker 5: when it comes from a player who plays in this
Speaker 5: league and understand just how much it takes to get
Speaker 5: to Sunday and you make an insensitive joke like that,
Speaker 5: you're whack your corny, your foul, and you the taste
Speaker 5: smacked out of your mouth? You really do? You really
Speaker 5: really do?
Speaker 6: Okay, we can go back to doing what we do. Okay,
Speaker 6: where were we? Man?
Speaker 4: Taking calls Chris who we have on the phone?
Speaker 7: Where were we.
Speaker 4: We got Antoine and Maryland?
Speaker 15: And now I ain't gonna say that I'm probably about
Speaker 15: to lose his jobs.
Speaker 16: Even they ain't like that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 16: So I don't say he's.
Speaker 17: Gonna be on TV for too much longer.
Speaker 15: But how you doing today?
Speaker 10: All right?
Speaker 6: How you doing great?
Speaker 18: Man?
Speaker 16: I'm doing all right.
Speaker 15: Man, I'm gonna little kit man, you know, ray Von Man,
Speaker 15: you know here Maryland got anyway, but Jesse's man, I
Speaker 15: know the optimism and everything. Man, But as odd as
Speaker 15: an average Calbay fan, you know, I mean a lot
Speaker 15: of us don't live in that DFW area. So we've
Speaker 15: been here at Stephen days, you know, saying, oh.
Speaker 16: Well, will go what can go wrong?
Speaker 17: Will go wrong?
Speaker 15: And I mean, in a sense, it's kindada happened, even
Speaker 15: something the simple as funk and the snack take the win?
Speaker 15: What Tony Roman did it against Seattle or the dance tests?
Speaker 15: You know, So it's hard to kind.
Speaker 17: Of feed it toward and stop believing that. Like I said,
Speaker 17: the leader got you trained.
Speaker 15: But I'm a little confident in the yam and I
Speaker 15: hold it down.
Speaker 17: Deron Blank.
Speaker 15: I'm glad John Lewis came back. Uh so I think
Speaker 15: you should be all right. I think you should be
Speaker 15: all right. Just we don't need nothing like that, man,
Speaker 15: because it seemed.
Speaker 16: Like every year somebody on that team go down.
Speaker 17: We always have a season in the injury.
Speaker 16: But moving forward, man, I hope we just you know,
Speaker 16: bunting down and dude, we got during Arizona. Man even
Speaker 16: had a f trouble dis in the past couple of years,
Speaker 16: so hopefully was.
Speaker 6: Really what you score?
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's your score?
Speaker 16: What's my score?
Speaker 14: My school?
Speaker 16: I'm gonna I don't be trying to peep it close.
Speaker 15: I'm gonna go big, good time. I'm gonna go I
Speaker 15: think abound forty three about forty thirteen?
Speaker 6: Thank you?
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, Well appreciate the call at one.
Speaker 6: Good score.
Speaker 4: I like that score.
Speaker 8: That's a that's a forty thirteen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like that. I think one of the things
Speaker 5: you talked about, you know, the mainstream media and how's
Speaker 5: you kind of Trent First, The biggest thing first is
Speaker 5: you got to stop, like you got to stop listening
Speaker 5: to them. There's we live and this is the plus
Speaker 5: part of social media. We live in a day and
Speaker 5: time now where you have access to people like we
Speaker 5: have four shows, Like we have ten shows on the
Speaker 5: Dallas Cowboy Network. How many shows do we have here?
Speaker 4: I don't know, but it's like seven per day.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 10: We content.
Speaker 5: Like the ability to get content that's not nationally based,
Speaker 5: right because Stephen Ay he thirty five thousand view, like
Speaker 5: thirty five thousand foot view, Like he's not he don't
Speaker 5: have connections here. He doesn't have Most of those guys
Speaker 5: don't have connections here. They don't have people in house.
Speaker 5: They don't have people every day at the start, like
Speaker 5: we here every day. We're every day we're roaming these halls.
Speaker 5: We talk to people, We've built relationships, we have friends.
Speaker 4: We can send a text to somebody on the other
Speaker 4: side of the building.
Speaker 5: This right, it's like you know, I mean there's we
Speaker 5: had you know, jokingly, we had Patrick no c Walker
Speaker 5: the other day, Like this is a guy who who
Speaker 5: has content available?
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're in Nate, you can actually walk
Speaker 4: over there and walk into a coach's office and sit
Speaker 4: down and I can't too, Yo, what's up with this?
Speaker 5: I can too you. That is the luxury of being
Speaker 5: a former player, because they treat you like family when
Speaker 5: you're in this building. But there's so many go get
Speaker 5: free lunch. Shout out to Everson Wallas. But I mean,
Speaker 5: but there's not to shout out like. But there's there
Speaker 5: are a bunch of content creators to some of my guys,
Speaker 5: you know sky Walker and watch Lombardi and Jay Tuck,
Speaker 5: and there's there's a bunch of people who I know
Speaker 5: every single day are putting in a ton of work,
Speaker 5: who are credible, who are on boots on the ground
Speaker 5: here getting you know, the best of if you if
Speaker 5: you you can, you can actually stay away from the
Speaker 5: f s ones and the espns of the world and
Speaker 5: lock into these other places and get up to date
Speaker 5: her information. You can watch on the Filter with Jesse Holly.
Speaker 5: I mean, there's a there's a pluthora of places where
Speaker 5: you can go to get up to date information that'll
Speaker 5: have you less on the edge of your seat and
Speaker 5: more informed about what's happening on the day to day basis.
Speaker 5: The big the.
Speaker 4: Thing about national media is they they yes, they're informed
Speaker 4: they have their sources. They a lot of times get
Speaker 4: information before we get it, or we get it before
Speaker 4: we just can't say anything about it.
Speaker 5: And was on team last week talking about how how
Speaker 5: Anthony Brown was going to step up and start starting
Speaker 5: like he ain't even on our football team. He ain't
Speaker 5: even on our like this is this is what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: Like this.
Speaker 4: Is been on like what two more teams since he's.
Speaker 10: Not even He was.
Speaker 5: Literally last night he's talking about that this is the
Speaker 5: next guy is going to step up and be a
Speaker 5: part of our football team like and and be he
Speaker 5: ain't even here.
Speaker 6: You know, you know that been my beat for the
Speaker 6: last since we started, since we all got together. It's
Speaker 6: always amazed me that, uh, the one hitter, the one
Speaker 6: hitter get her man.
Speaker 7: I was gonna say something ugly, but one hitter, and uh.
Speaker 6: Everybody's looking for that one big splash when you say
Speaker 6: something and they go viral. Everybody's looking for that, you know, Uh,
Speaker 6: the guy that ran Shining Shop off, you know, you
Speaker 6: know this guy that just made Jesse how they upset.
Speaker 7: You don't have to do that, you don't.
Speaker 6: You just report what you see because a lot of
Speaker 6: times they just say they thirty five thousand feet up.
Speaker 6: Report what you see, but more importantly, what happened to
Speaker 6: report and what you know? It used to be reporters.
Speaker 6: And I'll take Galloway. He most times they want you
Speaker 6: to have a reliable source, then back it up with
Speaker 6: another source. Randy Galloway wanted you to have three so
Speaker 6: you could not be refuted. But now it's like, hey,
Speaker 6: how can I put this together?
Speaker 4: Jesse said this, Nate.
Speaker 7: Said this, Oh, Shannon came with this. Now you create
Speaker 7: a story from there.
Speaker 6: You don't have editors like my man here Kurt, who's
Speaker 6: gonna break it down.
Speaker 7: And say, hey, we can't use this, we can't use that.
Speaker 6: You know, these things are unfiltered, and now that's what
Speaker 6: our goutchas are starting to.
Speaker 10: Cater to.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. And even with Jesse's show
Speaker 6: that's unfiltered, he still has a sense of.
Speaker 7: Value and how he does it, there's no value.
Speaker 6: Now it's like we got to get these one here
Speaker 6: to quitters and that's how going.
Speaker 7: And that's a shame because if.
Speaker 6: You are a big time cowboy fan and you rab
Speaker 6: it about this thing, why are you listening to anything else?
Speaker 6: Because we have enough objective guys that don't do these shows,
Speaker 6: and we have enough homers like myself that do these
Speaker 6: shows that you can figure it out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's I think it's just the allure of
Speaker 4: the national media. Yeah, they get some stuff because agents
Speaker 4: will feed them stuff because it's a bigger splash, right,
Speaker 4: But if you want to know the ins and outs
Speaker 4: and what's really going on, and like what's happening in
Speaker 4: the locker room, what's happening like you said, Jesse, in
Speaker 4: the coaches room. You still have a great relationship, bro,
Speaker 4: you know, well a lot of the guys I mean,
Speaker 4: like yeah, all of them, like we I mean, we
Speaker 4: can't a lot of times we can't come out and
Speaker 4: say this is what's going on. But if you listen,
Speaker 4: you find out what's going on. Like you know.
Speaker 6: So, I mean it's the thing that makes you laugh
Speaker 6: is they got they got it now where at a
Speaker 6: certain point all employees have to be have to eat
Speaker 6: at a certain time. But and so the players can
Speaker 6: have that free reign over there. But Jesse can walk in,
Speaker 6: I can walk in you just hey, how you doing,
Speaker 6: big fellow? You're doing? And and you can get this
Speaker 6: insight that no one else can get but the But
Speaker 6: the bottom line is it's almost boring.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 6: If Jess come out and say, hey, man, this year
Speaker 6: I talked to such and such and this, this is
Speaker 6: what's happening if you don't do it in an exciting way.
Speaker 5: With If it's not salacious?
Speaker 6: Right, what that means?
Speaker 10: Tell me what the world that means? For real? Help
Speaker 10: me bro spelling? You lost me there?
Speaker 6: For real?
Speaker 5: Now I said, I said that specifically for you. Defliction
Speaker 5: for nation. We can educate it.
Speaker 6: It means sexy, okay, okay, sexy to me, sexy is
Speaker 6: on one word.
Speaker 10: Sexy.
Speaker 6: Lation is a bunch of syllables, like what you gonna
Speaker 6: beat somebody?
Speaker 5: When I said, hold on arousing or appealing to.
Speaker 10: Okay, cool, joh? I like that. Now how you pronounce
Speaker 10: it correctly?
Speaker 5: Salacious?
Speaker 6: I'm going home to baby.
Speaker 5: You be ready, Big daddy on this way.
Speaker 10: I did learn a new word, Thank you, Jim.
Speaker 5: Solacious Daddy's on their way.
Speaker 4: Those fruity pebble cookies are solatious. I had him shut
Speaker 4: down today.
Speaker 6: That's right. He didn't get on.
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Speaker 4: Come out to the Star and watch their suv drive
Speaker 4: around and take Jesse's parking place.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you'll see it.
Speaker 5: You stand up, it's out there.
Speaker 10: You gonna lisen.
Speaker 6: You know, every time I thinked the Jigsaw, did I
Speaker 6: think about trapping m D and Jessey bringing one of
Speaker 6: his trailers and parking.
Speaker 8: Trapper m D. Boy, that's a blast from Yeah.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to get him down because he just killed Bert.
Speaker 6: He went into that.
Speaker 4: Chris has some uh uh, you have some support on
Speaker 4: the text line, So Chris, you want to go a
Speaker 4: couple of mons.
Speaker 20: Of support on the text line. We got let's see
Speaker 20: Tony from New Jersey says, go Jesse, you got this
Speaker 20: Dan from Philly says Preach, Jesse, Preach, we got this
Speaker 20: one guy from the two seven says Bart Sky's a
Speaker 20: punk in.
Speaker 5: Isaiah Amenaiah a little repercussion that that needs to be
Speaker 5: repercussions put on.
Speaker 6: That like this is this I'm just reading this, But
Speaker 6: you know what, Chris, I really I really like what
Speaker 6: Chris is doing. I'm really liking what Chris is doing.
Speaker 6: But not designate your boy to be our technician over here?
Speaker 6: Come on talking.
Speaker 4: About he's too busy looking up Pharah Fawcett over there.
Speaker 13: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Amelia said, way to bring the fuego on the
Speaker 8: show just the West.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, y'all, keep stop with the Chris Berman Berman
Speaker 4: term in fuego. Remember that back in the in the
Speaker 4: what nineties?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Okay, all right, let's go back to the phone like.
Speaker 6: The sequel I talked about in the.
Speaker 10: Who we Got?
Speaker 5: We got Demetrius in the Rio Grand Valley, Demetrius? What's
Speaker 5: up baby?
Speaker 18: What's going on?
Speaker 10: Fellas?
Speaker 14: How y'all doing good?
Speaker 10: Good man?
Speaker 18: I got two quick things. First of all, Bark got
Speaker 18: Tiki Barber should never analyzed anything that's my first thing.
Speaker 18: Second thing, ud do we travel step on Gilmore? Now
Speaker 18: when we probably any of these jugging our receivers? No, no,
Speaker 18: And then I think the score twenty eight to six.
Speaker 18: That's all I got.
Speaker 7: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 6: No, No, no travel, no travel.
Speaker 8: If you travel one guy, then you gotta travel to right.
Speaker 5: You gotta travel, three, you gotta travel four, you gotta
Speaker 5: jecte the whole.
Speaker 7: Nope, I'm gonna tell you a little quick story.
Speaker 6: We did that with Dion when he first got here.
Speaker 5: See that, that's where the story stops. Yeah, that's the
Speaker 5: end of the story. Yeah, Like we did that with
Speaker 5: Dion period, Like that's just that's the end of the story.
Speaker 7: You know, how smart the other guys gotta.
Speaker 6: Be, because like what if they if Dion traveling and
Speaker 6: we got the six coverage two guys over here, this guy,
Speaker 6: but Dion's gonna travel, all those coverages go out of
Speaker 6: the window.
Speaker 7: Because once they changed the formation, all of that change.
Speaker 5: You're basically playing like you're not playing ten on ten.
Speaker 5: Yeah's over there like he's doing his own thing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so you gotta yeah, bro, it takes you have
Speaker 6: to be One thing I think this defense is, it's
Speaker 6: smart because there have they have so many interchangeable pieces
Speaker 6: you and you have to know so many different positions.
Speaker 6: You gotta be smart. You gotta do your film study
Speaker 6: because they find that you can't adjust you out of
Speaker 6: the rotation.
Speaker 5: I'm looking at the schedule right of course, Cardinals, they
Speaker 5: don't have anybody that I'm fearful love. The Patriots will
Speaker 5: have anybody on feel for love. As far as receivers.
Speaker 5: The Niners like Deebo's debo right, like, but I don't
Speaker 5: think he's like Deebo's not be caff No, no, you can't.
Speaker 5: It's so tough and difficult to follow Debo in the backfield.
Speaker 5: They lit him up in this like, so it's better
Speaker 5: off and you just play coverage and hope just keep
Speaker 5: an eye out for him.
Speaker 10: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: It's tough to play because he's not lining up.
Speaker 6: Outside the Yeah, that play last night.
Speaker 5: Charge is the same thing. There's nobody in the Charge
Speaker 5: that I feel like we have to you know, we
Speaker 5: have to start. They got some good players on there
Speaker 5: in the offense receiver room, but there's no one that
Speaker 5: I fear The Rams.
Speaker 6: Same is that because you just don't like the scheme
Speaker 6: because it's not the quarterback for the charges if the
Speaker 6: Chargers was here in album.
Speaker 5: I'm talking about a receiver that is worthy of star coverage.
Speaker 5: Oh okay, I don't know there is Like there isn't
Speaker 5: a receiver that I see, Like there isn't a there
Speaker 5: isn't a Tyreek like now Christmas Day. That's different. And
Speaker 5: even still, you know Stefan Gilmoy fasten up. Nobody's fasten
Speaker 5: Tyreek Hill. You coverage, you play him with coverage.
Speaker 4: You gotta scheme him, scheme.
Speaker 5: You don't try to go. So I'm just I'm talking
Speaker 5: about the receiver that we're looking at, like justin Jefferson.
Speaker 5: You know, maybe there's a point in time when you
Speaker 5: know it's the bills to write Stefan Diggs. I would
Speaker 5: love to see that batch up, Trayvon Diggs, Stephan Diggs.
Speaker 6: We got cheated.
Speaker 5: We got cheated out of that one. But there is
Speaker 5: anybody on our schedule, Tyreek Hill, Stefan Diggs, a J.
Speaker 6: Brown.
Speaker 5: Other than that, I don't think there's another receiver that wires.
Speaker 8: About Cooper cup or Brandon I No, nope.
Speaker 5: Nope, not worthy, if not.
Speaker 6: Worthy, say this man just the adaless something. He's saying this,
Speaker 6: and I'm going along with you. But some of these
Speaker 6: guys got got coaches that can make them like that. Yeah,
Speaker 6: some of these guys got coaches that can And so
Speaker 6: I want to see as the season play on, you
Speaker 6: go through the list again and see if we still
Speaker 6: feel the same because we feel in the same way.
Speaker 6: But I want to see as the season go on.
Speaker 10: Early in this.
Speaker 7: Season, I see what you're doing, but I want to
Speaker 7: see as the season going on.
Speaker 8: So you're saying star coverage that meaning they don't necessarily
Speaker 8: have to really focus in on that guy or what.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, just what star coveras is is we're talking
Speaker 5: about all right, Uh, Gilly, you got him? Okay, when
Speaker 5: he goes to the hot Dogs, you go to the hot.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 5: When when you break the huddle, he's standing at the
Speaker 5: huddle looking for said player, Yeah.
Speaker 6: He go rest you you ain't playing special.
Speaker 10: Wow.
Speaker 6: That's a good breakdown. But man, when I when I
Speaker 6: always put coaches into my equation when I'm when I'm
Speaker 6: trying to break down something, I always say, who is
Speaker 6: the coach, Whether it's a great minded defensive coordinator, a
Speaker 6: great offensive coordinator, a great head who is the coach
Speaker 6: that makes that difference.
Speaker 5: We literally have two of the best, yes, right, like
Speaker 5: like if you if you did, though, if you did,
Speaker 5: if you rank the coaches, if you rank coaches in
Speaker 5: the National Football League offensively and defensively, we have two
Speaker 5: top five coaches. I think Mike McCarthy will find himself
Speaker 5: in a situation where he's in the conversation of being
Speaker 5: a top five offensive minded coach. Not a shout of
Speaker 5: a doubt that Dan quiz oncoy is gonna being a
Speaker 5: top three two defensive coordinator.
Speaker 4: Coaches, so, could you have two Coaches of the Year
Speaker 4: on the same team.
Speaker 10: I guess why not?
Speaker 6: Well, you know, like like I was telling Jess, we'll
Speaker 6: just wait to let this play. Yea, man ain't played out. Man,
Speaker 6: this is gonna be a.
Speaker 4: And injuries are a part of the game. So this
Speaker 4: is not gonna be the last injury.
Speaker 6: Every injuries that is one in the NFC recently. Go
Speaker 6: back and check what they're doing. Teams are running this rock.
Speaker 6: Teams are being physical. You watched last night game. Teams
Speaker 6: are running this rock. You watch Philly, they are running
Speaker 6: the rock. You watch the they are running. Teams are
Speaker 6: getting physical so now the past is something that's that's
Speaker 6: being used as an explosive play. I'm liking how how
Speaker 6: this thing is and.
Speaker 5: I believe in so much. And dan Quinn like, let's
Speaker 5: not forget people we just said, say we discovered but
Speaker 5: Michael was discovered as this pass rushing Yeah due to injury.
Speaker 5: Who did yeah, dan Quinn, but who put him there?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 5: But you know we had we had we had lost
Speaker 5: all our defensive ends at one point down was to
Speaker 5: the injury.
Speaker 4: That was like, because a lot of teams this other kid, Yeah,
Speaker 4: a lot of the teams he might still be playing linebacker. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he may never have gotten a chance.
Speaker 6: I just don't want to believe that teams would be
Speaker 6: that dumb. Well, I think the first year he would
Speaker 6: have been fully fully linebacker and they would have saw
Speaker 6: him hit that A gap when he was at Penn State.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, but they would have lined up in the
Speaker 5: A gap again and said, hey, you're gonna come from depth,
Speaker 5: You're gonna come from the.
Speaker 4: Second level, right, would you have ever made it to
Speaker 4: the edge.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm just hoping to praying that thank God, we
Speaker 6: will never coach is dumb, Thank.
Speaker 4: God, will never know him.
Speaker 5: Sometimes it thinks happens due to injury.
Speaker 4: I mean injury creates opportunity.
Speaker 5: Miles Austin injury, like guys happened, Tony Romo, Dak Prescott injury, injury, injury.
Speaker 5: You know it all happens due to due to injury. Yeah,
Speaker 5: Jesse Holly story like it all happens. It's all about
Speaker 5: stepping up in the moment. Who can?
Speaker 19: Who can?
Speaker 5: Who can make this to the top?
Speaker 4: Salaciously?
Speaker 6: That's sure?
Speaker 10: All right?
Speaker 4: Before we give our predictions, here's here's how I think
Speaker 4: Cowboy fans are thinking about. If you watch the Giants
Speaker 4: forty nine Ers game last night, You're on this high,
Speaker 4: you're undefeated, you're giving up how many points are they
Speaker 4: giving up? Five points a game? You score what they
Speaker 4: order they score in the game, thirty five a game
Speaker 4: after two games, and then you and then you feel
Speaker 4: good and you're going into the Cardinals game and you're like,
Speaker 4: we'll go steamroll these jokers. And then you watch that
Speaker 4: game last night and you're like, you know what, the
Speaker 4: Giants are not good. Maybe this team's not as good.
Speaker 4: You know what, the Jets didn't have Aaron Rodgers maybe
Speaker 4: they're not as good as we think that they gotta
Speaker 4: play the forty nine ers, and the forty nine ers
Speaker 4: look real good. That's just the way you're programmed. If
Speaker 4: you're now, look, you got fans of this team that
Speaker 4: on the other spectrum that we can be bad, and they're.
Speaker 7: Like, we're going to the super Bowl.
Speaker 4: We every year, Nate, So we got what'sitting?
Speaker 6: Don't do that. We got I'll give you a realistic
Speaker 6: view for five days a week less we're picking games.
Speaker 6: Don't do that, man, never be that crazy.
Speaker 10: But then you have.
Speaker 6: Fighting, y'all, not you, I'm fighting to get y'alled at
Speaker 6: super Bowl.
Speaker 5: But which is crazy.
Speaker 4: But then you have you know, most of our fan
Speaker 4: base is realistic, and they just they don't want to
Speaker 4: get too excited because they usually get the rug jerked
Speaker 4: out from under. So that's it, all right, all right?
Speaker 4: Our pod pick question first, We'll do that first before
Speaker 4: we do scores. Who will score if a touchdown is
Speaker 4: score not on the offensive side of the ball, defense,
Speaker 4: special teams. Who would be the person to score that
Speaker 4: touchdown this week? Nate, uh, not offensive, anybody that's not
Speaker 4: on offense. It could be an offensive guy, but it
Speaker 4: would be special teams could be a kick the turn, defensive.
Speaker 5: Math not offensively niggles not offensive.
Speaker 6: Special teams some guys.
Speaker 5: So, I got You're right, I't thinking nobody, man, jes
Speaker 5: Let's go baby, Let's let's.
Speaker 10: Let's go baby, Kurt Ron Blair, let's go.
Speaker 5: To Marcus Lorredant.
Speaker 4: You want to play now? Yeah, I got you gotta
Speaker 4: pick somebody. Nobody else is picking. They're already taking.
Speaker 6: You'll come back, Chris.
Speaker 4: Who you got?
Speaker 20: I haven't really thought about it.
Speaker 10: None of us thought about it. Yeah, you got me off.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with turping. Okay, we'll get a special
Speaker 4: teams touchdown. Okay, Jesse got blaying? You got da all? Kurt,
Speaker 4: I'll go turping. Nate's I go with Slatious Gilmore for Chris, Chris,
Speaker 4: you want to play Nate Slatious?
Speaker 7: Who's that that sexy person?
Speaker 4: Who is Who's sexy on team? Who?
Speaker 10: Will?
Speaker 6: Jay?
Speaker 4: Ron?
Speaker 10: Brian Inger?
Speaker 14: I go with.
Speaker 9: Jay?
Speaker 4: I I like it, Jay Lou Nate?
Speaker 10: All right? Now?
Speaker 4: Score predictions Kurt.
Speaker 5: Thirty three?
Speaker 10: Ten?
Speaker 6: Sweet?
Speaker 4: Who who's winning?
Speaker 6: Count?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 10: Nate?
Speaker 4: By how many?
Speaker 10: By three?
Speaker 6: By three?
Speaker 7: That's three?
Speaker 5: Chris?
Speaker 20: Who you there I'm gonna do a big wins since
Speaker 20: I told you this.
Speaker 10: I love it.
Speaker 20: It's going to be four seven, so forty seven to seven.
Speaker 7: Okay, I can get it.
Speaker 4: Four seven for forty seven to seven. Okay, I love it.
Speaker 10: I like that.
Speaker 5: Love it Jesse T shirt.
Speaker 6: Who you got?
Speaker 10: Jesse?
Speaker 5: I got the Cowboys winning this game? This is this
Speaker 5: is going to be. I got thirty six thirteen garbage
Speaker 5: points by the Cardinals in the late in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 5: This is be a blowout, thirty six third being control
Speaker 5: from from go. I like that score. What was our
Speaker 5: guys score?
Speaker 4: Forty to seventeen?
Speaker 8: Was that his forty to thirteeneen.
Speaker 4: Let me go forty to seventeen because something creepy is
Speaker 4: gonna happen and always does in Arizona. There's gonna be
Speaker 4: some kind of blunder and that's going to result in points.
Speaker 4: So I'll go forty to seventeen real quick. What's the
Speaker 4: one thing that could get the Cowboys in trouble this game?
Speaker 4: Since we all think they're gonna kill them?
Speaker 6: What's turnovers? For me? It's always gonna be turnovers.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they hurt themselves.
Speaker 5: We keep it across the board? Was he turnovers all injury, injury.
Speaker 4: It's not I'll go turnover. I think the turnovers the
Speaker 4: only thing that's going to keep them from steamrolling these guys.
Speaker 4: Great show, Fellas, great hot opinions on this show.
Speaker 6: Thanks for the new word.
Speaker 5: Great new words on that. If I could just how
Speaker 5: to pronouncedacious Miss Michelle Knows on the web, put it
Speaker 5: in your voice memos and you just play it.
Speaker 4: Notion Nate, great show, Jesse, hot sports opinions, Great job Chris,
Speaker 4: thanks for keeping us on the air, and thank you
Speaker 4: to everyone listening. We will be back on Victory Monday.
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