1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal ull that for me, I'm 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: be happy. You want to be happy for a day 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: at the stake? 6 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 3: Is that? 7 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Woo woo? 8 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 3: And Dan and tie Dan Rubinstein. Week six was a 9 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 3: terrible week to be a top eleven team, was it not. 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,279 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm in retrospect, I feel pretty good as 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: an Oregon Human defense isn't a nice place. But there 12 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: were moments, there were swaths of time where I was 13 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 2: questioning everything about what Oregon might be able to do 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: this year still might be. But I got off easy 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: because it was tough. 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 3: We have been doing this show since two thousand and eight, 17 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 3: as many people who listen know, and on occasional you 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 3: have weeks like this where you look at the slate 19 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: and we've joked for eons now, Oh, it's always the 20 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 3: quiet ones. 21 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: It's always the quiet ones. 22 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 3: We even called this week Snaggletuo Saturday, just on the 23 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: assumption that hey, there are some jagged edges out there 24 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 3: and we have questions about teams. I mean even Alabama, 25 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: which came out on top in that Georgia game a 26 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 3: week ago. You know, how they finished that game left 27 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: I think a little bit to be desired. So just 28 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: some general questions around college football. It's still so early. 29 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: You don't know who is good, who isn't good. You 30 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 3: understand where I'm going with this, So we gave it 31 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 3: that name. We assume that there would be some degree 32 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 3: of madness, but nothing nothing like this. At time of recording, 33 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 3: five of the top eleven teams in college football straight 34 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 3: up lost. Cal is playing and beating Miami as we speak. 35 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: We will provide. 36 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 3: Updates in real time for the people who are listening 37 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 3: after the fact, which is always weird. We're recording this 38 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: at midnight Eastern on Saturday. We'll do our best to 39 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 3: try and keep you as up to date as possible. 40 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 3: The team that made out the best this week, frankly, 41 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 3: was Texas because it was on buy. It didn't play, 42 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 3: it didn't play, and didn't have to deal with with 43 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 3: any of this madness, Dan Rubinstein, So yeah, to say 44 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 3: the least, welcome one, Welcome all. If you're new here, 45 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 3: hit follow, hit subscribe. We have a lot to get 46 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: through today, do we not? 47 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: We absolutely do. And god, it was what three days ago, 48 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: four days ago where you laughed in my virtual face 49 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: when I said, Alabama off of a big emotional win 50 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 2: on the road taking on Diego Pavia and I took 51 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: those points. Did I call it out right? 52 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: Ty? 53 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 3: You better believe I did not. You definitely did not 54 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 3: call it out right, but. 55 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: I did get I got giggled in giggled at by 56 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: you when I took those points. And you know, it 57 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: was just like a roulette wheel for me, right, Like 58 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 2: I just threw a few chips here, a few chips there. 59 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: I said, look at all these teams coming off of Bye, 60 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 2: look at all these like weird home dog situations with 61 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: feisty defense and not a lot of worked out. But 62 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: all you need is a couple of chips on the 63 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: right number tie. And it was damn it was a 64 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 2: fun week. 65 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: It really was. 66 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 3: So listen, as I said, follow, subscribe wherever it is 67 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 3: that you're finding us today. Thank you so much for downloading, 68 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 3: for listening, for watching however it is you're consuming the verbal. 69 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. 70 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: I guess you don't put the chips on the roulette 71 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: wheel itself on the board. 72 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 3: They do not allow that you put it on the board. 73 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 3: You have to have super frowned upon tie. I had 74 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: the hard way. They had that little plastic cook that 75 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 3: they pushed the chips around with. 76 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: No, you can't put it on the wheel. That was 77 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: sort of don't love for us. No. 78 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 3: Going out to verballers dot com if you're interested in 79 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 3: voting in our verball or Top twelve poll, which will 80 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 3: be a little bit different for week seven. Sign up 81 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: for a certified or Premium verball or tier and you 82 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 3: get a ballot. Tonight's show is all about raw reactions. 83 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 3: It is about reacting to that's raw dog Week six tie. 84 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: You know you've been asking for it. Let's just go 85 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: through this, let's react. We're gonna give you our top 86 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: twelve things from week six. Whatever we don't get to 87 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: today we will include as. 88 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: Part of our Tuesday spillover episodes. 89 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 3: So yeah, let's go kind of have like two recap episodes. 90 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 3: Here is the lay of the land. Okay, let's go. 91 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 3: Here's Leyland banda lost. Tennessee lost, Missouri got hammered. I 92 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: don't even count that as a loss. 93 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 1: They got murdered. 94 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 95 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 3: Michigan and USC also lost out of your top eleven, 96 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: of course, though Dan the big one of the day, 97 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 3: Vandy beat Alabama. 98 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: They did. 99 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 3: Bandy beat Alabama by a forty to thirty five score. 100 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 3: This game was the epitome of snaggle tooth Saturday, Dan, 101 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 3: you gotta watch for the jagged edges. Even still, even 102 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 3: you and your infinite wisdom taking Vandy in. 103 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: The points. 104 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 3: Could not have predicted a plot twist quite like this. 105 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 3: It was just one week after Alabama knocked off Georgia. 106 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: Bama goes on the road. They lose by five. Yeah. 107 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: Immediately following the win, fans obviously stormed the field. I 108 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 3: don't know if you saw, but on the jumbo tron 109 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: and the PA system, of course, they played the clip 110 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 3: of and the audio for Nick Saban and his game 111 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 3: day quote about how the easiest place to play in 112 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 3: the SEC is Vanderbilt. Fans subsequently tore down the goalposts. 113 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 3: I believe they paraded it down Broadway in Nashville if 114 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 3: I saw correctly. 115 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: Yep, just kind of a cool scene. 116 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 3: For lack of better terms, this is, in the entire 117 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 3: span of time that we've been doing this show, one 118 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: of the craziest results I can ever imagine. 119 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: Have you seen the movie slum Dog Millionaire? I have, 120 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 2: so Obviously the big not twists, But the reveal in 121 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: it is he knows all of those answers because a 122 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 2: very specific life experience is coming across the answers on 123 00:05:55,839 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 2: that game show. The way that Vanderbilt beat Alabama, plays 124 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: that they called, the situations they found themselves in, the 125 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 2: play calls that they called that resulted in huge plays 126 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: on third and short, fourth and short whatever. It felt 127 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 2: like that was all assembled over the course of this season. 128 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 4: Right. 129 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: It didn't feel like it was like the game plan 130 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: was come up with Tuesday, late at night or something 131 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 2: like that. It felt like the culmination of weeks and 132 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: weeks of worth, weeks and weeks of work and preparation. 133 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 2: Because you look at how long Vandy had the ball, 134 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 2: You look at the plays that Diego Pavia was able 135 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 2: to make, You look at the confidence that Vandy was 136 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: able to play with against Alabama the week after they 137 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 2: beat Georgia, that there was something bigger about what Vandy 138 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: put into this game. And why wouldn't you, right, everybody, 139 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 2: you're gonna circle this game, you know, in the summer, 140 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 2: in the spring, whatever, if you're Vanderbilt with all the 141 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 2: changes that they made, bringing in Diego Pavia, bringing in 142 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: Jerry Kill and Tim Beck, all these guys losing who 143 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 2: they lost on both sides of the ball, that this 144 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: was a game that they were just ready to kick 145 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 2: at in from the opening moments of the game, whether 146 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: it was the pick six, whether it was the strip sack, 147 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: whether it was just maintaining possession as long as they 148 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 2: did absorbing whatever it was that Jalen Milroe or Milroe 149 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: excuse me, right, we got a note. I apologize Dalen 150 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 2: Milroe and Ryan Williams were able to accomplish together magically. 151 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: I should add Ryan Williams's magic, I don't. I don't 152 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: have a better adjective for Ryan Williams at this point. 153 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: And he is seventeen fact check that, yeah, fact check 154 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: seventeen years old. It was masterful. Vanderbilt was masterful at home. 155 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: And this is just what Diego Pavia does to sec 156 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: t well. So here are favored to beat Diego Pavia. 157 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 3: Here's the thing, here's one of the interesting factoids that 158 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 3: I was able to mine. Yeah, before this game, Diego 159 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 3: Pavia was tied with Eric Dungeee longtime oh the show. Yeah, 160 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 3: and Skyler Thompson formerly of Case States now with the 161 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: Dolphins for the most wins by a quarterback in games 162 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 3: where their team was a twenty one or more point 163 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: underdog over the last twenty season. 164 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: He at least did that against Skyla Thompson, against Oklahoma 165 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: at least once. 166 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 3: Right, they each had two. All three of those guys 167 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 3: had two. Obviously, now this gives Diego Pavia three. It 168 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 3: was clear that Van he just built the whole point 169 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: out of him. And yeah, he continually found. 170 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: Way Eli Stours two was an important, sure deal here, Yeah, yeah, sure, 171 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: but Pavia was the engine and it was clear that 172 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: he was finding ways to make big plays without making 173 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: big mistakes, which is a big deal. And you know, 174 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: we could talk about what else transpired this week and 175 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: how other mistakes did kind of dictate how this week 176 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 2: went down. 177 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: But Diego Pavia did not falter in this moment. 178 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 3: And I don't know how many people had Diego Pavia 179 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 3: out playing Jalen Milroe on the Bengo card. But here 180 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 3: we are, right, Yes, what struck me was this. If 181 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 3: you watch this game, even if you didn't, you mentioned 182 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,599 Speaker 3: some of the moments, the ricochet off the pick, the 183 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 3: ricochet off the player that led to a pick six, 184 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 3: the strip sack that type of thing. These games always 185 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 3: have moments oftentimes though they feel like a fluke. Yeah, 186 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 3: this did not feel like a fluke to me. I 187 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 3: watched the whole game. This was not a fluke. Vandy 188 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 3: never trailed in this game. They held the ball for 189 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: forty two minutes. As you said, you can only control 190 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 3: that much of the football if your offensive line is 191 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 3: playing well, and it did play well. You could only 192 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 3: control the ball that long if you're effective on third downs. 193 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: They were twelve of eighteen on third downs. It doesn't 194 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 3: matter if you're playing Bama. If you're playing Alabama State, 195 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 3: who cares. Twelve of eighteen is a really good number 196 00:09:55,120 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 3: on third route, right, Yeah, it's incredible. So this was 197 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 3: against Ala Frickin' Bama at home a week after that 198 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 3: big win. For Vandy to go out there and essentially 199 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 3: be dominant in the manner that they was to the 200 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 3: degree that they could be dominant, is a huge deal 201 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 3: for clark Lee. It validates all the offseason changes that 202 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 3: you described earlier. You bring it in basically New Mexico State. 203 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: But losing right losing the receivers. It was Nate Clifton, 204 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: the key defensive lineman to USC A couple of years ago, 205 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 2: was it Ray Davis to Kentucky? Right right? I read 206 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 2: this a young, promising team. 207 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: So they're now three and two. 208 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 3: They stand an excellent chance to get the six wins 209 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 3: to go to a bowl, which frankly two months ago 210 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 3: is inconceivable. And I would just shift gears a little 211 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: bit and say, on the Bama side, I mean, I 212 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 3: know we want to celebrate Vandy, but on the Bama side, obviously, 213 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 3: this raises a few questions if if you follow the 214 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 3: newsletter like Jake and I in this week's version, talked 215 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 3: about Klein de Borr trying to conjure the spirit of 216 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 3: Nick Saban talking about the rat poison. Everybody remembers his 217 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 3: rat poison comment. Yeah, and Kaitlyn de bor went so 218 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 3: far as to set rat traps around the football building 219 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 3: just to remind people like, you're not as good. You're 220 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: never as good as the media wants you to believe 221 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 3: you are. And we're now working on six straight quarters. 222 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 3: I'd say of curious play by Alabama got off to 223 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 3: a big lead against Georgia, allowed Georgia to come back 224 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: into that game the last two quarters. 225 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: Now we had four quarters of this. 226 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 3: There are still four ranked teams in this schedule, as 227 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 3: well as a road game at South Carolina next week 228 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 3: and then the Iron Bowl to close things out. Alabama's 229 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 3: got a long way to go. This is not to 230 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 3: say they're a bad team, This is not to say 231 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 3: that they're in danger of really anything. But they got 232 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 3: to shore up whatever is going on here over the 233 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 3: last game and a half. 234 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be a not a wet blanket. I don't 235 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 2: know what I'm gonna be here. This was a not 236 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: great day for Alabama. And we shouldn't judge Alabama and 237 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 2: the Kaylen de Bor era on the Vanderbilt game, just 238 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 2: like we shouldn't judge them on the back half of 239 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 2: the Georgia game, and we shouldn't judge them on the 240 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 2: first half of the Georgia game or the fourth quarter 241 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: against USF any of their highs and any of their lows. 242 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: It's Kaylin de Bor's first year. This is not a 243 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 2: team that he recruited. This is him using and that's 244 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: not necessarily a bad thing, but this is not something 245 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: that we can This is not a mandate or whatever 246 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 2: on Kaylan de Bor. A referendum. A referendum, excuse me, 247 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 2: Thank you. And so the story to me is still 248 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 2: Vanderbilt and as good as Jalen Milroe is and Ryan 249 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: Williams and you know, all the running backs for Bama, 250 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 2: the playmakers on defense, this is Vanny. This is a 251 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: situational This is situational magic for the Doors and a 252 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 2: program defining win for Clarkly, who, by the way, never 253 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 2: too high, never too low. Clarklely just sort of had 254 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: his hands up at the end of it and was 255 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 2: just like very happy for these guys, like even like 256 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: his like halftime interviews, his like mid quarter interviews, like. 257 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. 258 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: Like there's just there's not a lot of fire to him. 259 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that is an negative thing, and 260 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: it was. It's it was just an interesting watch that 261 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 2: they just sort of were steady, Eddy kept going at Bama. 262 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, just to put it in context and then we'll 263 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 3: move on. Vandy had been owen sixty as a program. Yeah, 264 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 3: before this game against ap top five teams. Clarkley obviously 265 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 3: gets a big one here the situation as a whole. 266 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: Did you see what I tweeted out, by the way 267 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: about that stat Oh well. 268 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,599 Speaker 3: They were oh in sixty, but they can't expect me. 269 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 3: Nobody beats Bandy sixty one straight time. There's an old shirt. 270 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 3: Was like nobody beats Vitas Garrolitas seventeen straight times after 271 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 3: Bjorn Born beat him sixteen times in a row. Daniel 272 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 3: the other thing, if we zoom out a little bit more, 273 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 3: not just within the context of Vandy, but yeah, Alabama's 274 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 3: just the fourth number one team in the ap pole 275 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 3: era to lose a game to an unranked opponent the 276 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:53,599 Speaker 3: week after beating a top two ranked opponent. And furthermore, 277 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 3: this has not happened since nineteen sixty You gotta go 278 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 3: back eighty three years. No, what is that sixty three years? 279 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 3: I'm not a math major. 280 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: It's been a long time. 281 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 3: It's been a long time, and these situations come about 282 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 3: once in a blue moon. 283 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: So good on Vandy. 284 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 3: Apologies to any Alabama fans out there. You will ultimately 285 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 3: be fine. And probably they're not listening. They're not listening, 286 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 3: but they are listening. They'll download and support. But to 287 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 3: the I think they're going to take the week off, 288 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 3: especially as you turn into like Tie Hammond over there 289 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 3: with the fun facts to just drive that screwdriver in 290 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 3: a little bit more The next upset point number two 291 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 3: was Arkansas nineteen Tennessee fourteen, Dan. 292 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: God, I should have gone with my gut here. 293 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: I talked about scratching off Arkansas, scratching off Tennessee, scratching 294 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 2: off Arkansas, going. 295 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: With the balls. 296 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 3: This was my lock of the week, Tennessee minus thirteen 297 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 3: and a half. 298 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: You had it big, right, Wasn't it like fifty one 299 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 2: to fourteen or something? 300 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 3: My final, my projected final was forty eight seventeen. I 301 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 3: was a little bit wrong of note. 302 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: Tennessee was favored by thirteen and a half. 303 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 3: They only scored four thirteen in this game. This was 304 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 3: three to nil at halftime in favor of Arkansas. They 305 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 3: clearly had a very good game plan to disrupt. The 306 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 3: crowd was rocking. It was obviously helpful that they were 307 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 3: at home here. And what I came away feeling was 308 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 3: basically the opposite of what I said when we did 309 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 3: the Thursday previous show. And on Thursday I was waxing 310 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 3: poetic about how Nico is cut differently, which I still 311 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 3: believe he is. 312 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: Oh man, the height of Nico is great, But this 313 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: is not the night to wax not that about Nico's ceiling. 314 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: No, no, no, But my point was not. 315 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 3: About his physical tools or how he can throw the 316 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: ball fifty yards on a rope off the short leg 317 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 3: like he did late in the game, which you and 318 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 3: I were, yeah, kind. 319 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 2: Of what and what and it just googling over immediately 320 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 2: before he ran out of bounds of five seconds left, 321 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: not attempting a game winning for. 322 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: Immediately before that. 323 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, Nico, at least in previous situations like this, the 324 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 3: few that we have seen did not seem brattled. 325 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: I thought he seemed brattled. I thought so too. 326 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 3: I thought he seemed brattled, And I guess that's a 327 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 3: sign that he is human. After all, all the kickers 328 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 3: in college football may have turned into aliens and they're 329 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 3: now hitting fifty five yarders. But to assume that Nico 330 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 3: was this alien quarterback who is going to come in 331 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 3: there his first year as a full time starter in 332 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 3: big SEC play with Tennessee riding high and a playoff 333 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 3: kind of at their you know, with well within reach, 334 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 3: and to assume that he would not feel any the 335 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 3: pressure this season was probably bridge too far. 336 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, also we saw it here. 337 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: You think about the context of Nico's young career at Tennessee. Right, 338 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: five Star comes in is like poster boy for like 339 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: the crazy money surrounding the nil world eight million dollars 340 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 2: allegedly right, coming in and winning a bowl game and 341 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: coming into a program that's putting up bonkers offensive numbers 342 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 2: and sending Hendon Hooker to New York and like, I 343 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 2: don't know, maybe the best of Joe Milton, but like 344 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: this is such a quarterback friendly offense, and he is 345 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: an athlete in the way that Joe Milton and Hendon 346 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 2: Hooker aren't necessarily. And you know, there's like the legend 347 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 2: of Nico. He sits for you. You can't wait to 348 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 2: see what he does. The receivers that come into the 349 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 2: program and Chris Brazl and Bruce McCoy, Dante Thornton, right, 350 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: like all of this firepower, the emergence of Dylan Samson, 351 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: and we forget he's a young quarterback in the SEC. 352 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 2: He's a young quarterback that's going to be thrust into 353 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 2: difficult environments whether or not the team is excellent. But 354 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 2: like I mean, I'm raising my hand here too. I'm 355 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 2: guilty of saying, like I think he's gonna be like 356 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 2: one of the best five quarterbacks in the sport, like 357 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: I'm heaping praise upon him, like he has arrived, but 358 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 2: like process is continuing. And the story here to me 359 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 2: is on the other side of the ball. That Arkansas 360 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 2: with their close calls this season, with their struggles at 361 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: time this season, you know, going even just last week 362 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: against Texas A and M, and the way that the 363 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 2: offense was shut down in the offensive line was overwhelmed 364 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 2: by Texas A and M, which, by the way, looks 365 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 2: a little bit better considering what Texas A and M 366 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 2: did today. That Arkansas is fighting impressively now. Probably should 367 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 2: have taken advantage and won that Oklahoma State game because 368 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 2: that game is aged worse with Oklahoma State season continuing 369 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: the way it has. But who is it, Braylan Russell 370 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: the running back, just the huge runs near the end 371 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 2: of that game, like big dude, big dude, big dude, 372 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 2: Taylor Green going down with what looked like an ugly 373 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: injury but popped onto his feet and it was Micah 374 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 2: Singleton coming in and making some plays with his feet 375 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: and a couple of screens here and there. 376 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Malachi sa four star, yeah, former four. 377 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 2: Star, And I don't know, man, Arkansas just piecing together 378 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 2: this win, getting Tennessee the hell off the field in 379 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 2: that first half. You mentioned being shut out in that 380 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 2: first half. I mean it's tantalizing. Now for Arkansas, we're like, 381 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: all right, what do we know the rest of the season. 382 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: We just shut out ten See in the first half 383 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 2: and took him down. What are we doing to back 384 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 2: this up? But man, what an impressive Saturday night in feetfel. 385 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: It really was. 386 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 3: And on the point of tailing Green, I mean, we 387 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 3: talked about this a couple times over now the raw 388 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 3: ability of tailing Green is there and you can see 389 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 3: it on display on most plays. Key word raw, Yeah, 390 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 3: very raw. He is a raw talent, but the best 391 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 3: of him is really exciting. He made two throws late 392 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 3: on consecutive plays sort of fades down the sidelines one 393 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 3: after the other, that were just dimes, absolute perfect throws. 394 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 3: He is obviously very mobile. Hopefully he is not injured 395 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 3: for any period of time he was up on his feet. 396 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,719 Speaker 3: It looks like it's not going to be super serious, 397 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 3: although it did have the hallmark of one of those 398 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 3: bad knee injuries. I think he will be okay based 399 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 3: on what we saw, but we'll wait to get the 400 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 3: official report there if they are able to sort of 401 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 3: rain him in and get more performances like the one 402 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 3: we saw tonight against a very good defense. This is 403 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 3: the other thing about this. Say what you want about 404 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 3: Arkansas's defense holding down the Tennessee offense, which in and 405 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 3: of itself is an accomplishment, but this Arkansas offense going 406 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 3: up against this Tennessee defense is its own matchup to 407 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 3: talk about. That's its own podcast because this is a 408 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 3: really good Tennessee pass rush and defense as a whole. 409 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 3: And for this guy who we had questions about his 410 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 3: decision making and some of the rawness that we have 411 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 3: seen on display, for him to cut them up the 412 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 3: way that he did, this is a really damn pressive performance. 413 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 3: To throw over two sixty six, not turn the ball 414 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 3: over through the air. He outplayed Nico. He out played 415 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,479 Speaker 3: Nico in this game, and he did so as basically 416 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 3: a two touchdown dog. 417 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And the space in the CEC of teams that 418 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 2: you don't want any part of in the wrong week, 419 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 2: not necessarily like the proven great teams, excellent teams, super 420 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: talented teams. I don't even know who's on that list. 421 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 2: In this moment, I think Georgia is. I think Alabama 422 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 2: likely still is. Texas most certainly is. We'll see after 423 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 2: that Tennessee's ceiling most certainly is. But the grouping of 424 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 2: teams and we'll see what Kentucky's able to do and 425 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: in terms of growth on offense, because the defense most 426 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: certainly I think fits that bill that that feisty one 427 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 2: side of the ball is pretty crazy. Or catch them 428 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 2: in the wrong week, you're gonna be sorry. Kind of 429 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: list of teams between you know, LSU, Oklahoma's defense, whatever, 430 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: It's going to be a dogfight these past these last 431 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: few weeks. 432 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 3: Let's go to point number three. This was Texas A 433 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 3: and M just murdering missus. 434 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: Just got man. 435 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Texas A and M's in that conversation, Oh, misses 436 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: in that conversation, it's wild. 437 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: Continue earns out that my vision, the one that came 438 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: to me in my sleep. 439 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 2: I was going to do a remix of that part 440 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 2: of the show. I just ran out of time. 441 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 3: For people just tuning in. It came to me in 442 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 3: my sleep one night this past week that Miszoo was 443 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 3: going to win thirty four to thirty one. 444 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: So I picked him. 445 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 3: I threw a few shekels on thirty four to thirty one, 446 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 3: not enough to put me in the poorhouse, but just 447 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 3: in case, just in case, the universe was sending me signals, 448 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 3: I decided I didn't. 449 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: I didn't want to miss out on that opportunity. 450 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: Was it like a payote Wednesday? Did you take anything 451 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 2: before bed that night? Was it nothing? Nothing? 452 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: Drank a lacroix, not a sponsor, could be you know what? 453 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 3: Okay, a little Lacroix. So guys, if you want to 454 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 3: make some money on college footballing something else. Yeah, avoid 455 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 3: the very specific bubbly and I won. 456 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: Forty one to ten. 457 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, this game was never close, and honestly, forty one 458 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 3: to ten, that score makes it sound closer. 459 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 5: Than it was. 460 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 2: Was it thirty one nothing at one point? 461 00:22:58,920 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 462 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 3: I mean A and M had over five hundred yards 463 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 3: of offense, twice as much as Miszoo. The biggest takeaway 464 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 3: for me was that if you watch this game, the 465 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:16,959 Speaker 3: A and M defensive line absolutely eight missoo alive. Miszoo 466 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 3: could not run at all. Frankly, they could barely block. 467 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 3: Brady Cook got sacked six times, generally had no time 468 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 3: to throw it all. There were moments when they'd show 469 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 3: a replay of Massoo's line, and I just kept thinking 470 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 3: to myself, oh my god, this looks like bad computer 471 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 3: AI in the video game. Guys just sort of looking around. 472 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 3: What are we supposed to do? 473 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 2: Three and a half fingers. 474 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was really bad. 475 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 3: When they were able to get something going, then they 476 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 3: were called back for a penalty. So this is one 477 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 3: of those games if you're a Miszoo fan you just 478 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 3: want to forget about it all together. This is a 479 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 3: really bad loss. 480 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 5: Though. 481 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 3: This is a really bad loss, not just because of 482 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 3: the off offensive stuff that we saw and how they 483 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 3: could not protect any of what they were trying to do, 484 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 3: but then on defense again, if you watch the game, 485 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 3: and Jordan Palmer was the analyst on the call here 486 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 3: in the booth, he was begging Massoo please, Rogers, Jeorde, Rogers, 487 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 3: excuse me, Bombers by the continue my bad another another 488 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 3: quarter a notable quarterback, brother commentator, coach continue. He was 489 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 3: practically begging Miszoo bring some pressure on, Connor Wigman, bring 490 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 3: some pressure. You had all day to throw. And then 491 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 3: they'd show replays and he's going through his progressions. You 492 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 3: could see his eyes. Dan one two, three, four. 493 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 2: Hmm, interesting, I think I'm gonna go here, Oh what's going. 494 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: On all day? To throw the ball? And by the way, 495 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: it was Connor Wigman. He was back. He looked good, 496 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: look very sharp for his first game back. Yeah, look sharp. 497 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 3: I thought Le'vian Moss, who's had some injury things as well. 498 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 3: I thought he looked really good. 499 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: A M did not just win. 500 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 3: Because Miszoo ran a weird scheme and didn't bring pressure 501 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 3: and there were penalties like all that stuff helped. 502 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: AM was clearly better in this game. 503 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 3: It's just I think when taking into totality the experience 504 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 3: of watching this game, it just felt. 505 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: So much worse for Maszoo than that final score would indicate. 506 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 2: Agree and the amount of pressure on the flip side 507 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: that Texas A and M was able to generate on 508 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 2: the Miszoo offense with four guys right, not even no 509 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 2: exotic blitzes or anything crazy like that. For most of 510 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 2: the game. They just completely smashed them and not anything 511 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 2: I saw coming. A very uncharacteristic Texas A and M win. 512 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 2: If you watched text A and M these past few years. 513 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 2: I have a bit of advice for any team or 514 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 2: you know, defensive coordinator watching this stream on the Spice channel. 515 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 2: Is that where we're broadcasting tonight as well? Yeah, it's 516 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 2: a pay per view your word channel. It's a deep 517 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 2: channel that you might be watching if you're going to 518 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 2: teach your team or instruct your team to arm tackle 519 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 2: Levy on Moss. Look at me right now, don't don't 520 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 2: do that. It's not gonna work out. He's very good 521 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 2: and texts A and M. By the way, that Missoo 522 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 2: win over Vanderbilt looks better and more impressive. That's something, 523 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 2: at least if you're a fan to hang your hat on. 524 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 2: But otherwise, I still don't know if we fully understand 525 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 2: what every win is or isn't. But this year's Miszoo 526 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 2: has been pretty disappointing in terms of, at least my 527 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: expectation coming into the season after last season. I know 528 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 2: you were not as high on Missoo as I was 529 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 2: going into the season, but I don't know all things 530 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 2: considered with who they have on offense and what they 531 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 2: brought back at least somewhat on defense, this was a 532 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 2: shell of my expectation of this team going against A 533 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 2: and M today, and man A and M is gonna 534 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: be They're gonna be. 535 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: A dirty out. 536 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 2: They are, they are. I mean, I don't know what 537 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 2: that means. I just made that phrasing up idea. I 538 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 2: can't explain it at all, but it feels right. It 539 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 2: does feel right, and it does. 540 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 3: This game kind of validates some of what I think 541 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 3: we were feeling coming into this one, which was we 542 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 3: didn't know which version of Miszoo we were going to get, 543 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 3: in part because we didn't know what to make of 544 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 3: some of those close games. You mentioned the Vandy game, 545 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 3: but also BC was closed for at least a half 546 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 3: and on the A and M side, we've both kind 547 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 3: of picked up these notes of hey, they're getting better. Yeah, 548 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 3: it feels like the trajectory is going up into the 549 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 3: right here and we don't know how soon they're going 550 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 3: to like explode and it ever explode this year. But 551 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 3: this is a big win. This is a big win. 552 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 3: And I thought it was very very telling about to 553 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 3: your point where Mike Elko has this team, because it 554 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 3: wasn't anything exotic, it wasn't anything overthought. It very much 555 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 3: was the underthink express right, the absolute brains in of Miszoo. 556 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 3: Here by thirty one points, so good on them a 557 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 3: nice win, and hopefully this is something that they can 558 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 3: build on. 559 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: I don't know where Miszoo goes from here. I just 560 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: it felt like so much was wrong in that game that, 561 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, I don't even know how you unpack that. 562 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to road more on that. Who else 563 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: lost in the top what do you say? 564 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 2: Eleven? 565 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, we had. 566 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 3: Washington beating Michigan point four, twenty seven to seventeen, and 567 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 3: then point five. Here on my list is Minnesota knocking 568 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 3: off usc by a twenty four to seventeen score. So 569 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 3: two upsets in the Big Ten. Two of its top 570 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 3: eleven teams also go down, both of which were on 571 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 3: the road. Not a great week to be a road team. Also, 572 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 3: not a good week to play a team coming off 573 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 3: of bye. Also a lot of like points here that 574 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 3: we need to unpack over the course of the next 575 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 3: few days or so. How much of the Michigan game 576 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 3: did you watch? 577 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: A good deal of it? 578 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 2: I want to rewatch it, but I did watch a 579 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 2: good deal of it, certainly because of my interest in 580 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 2: West Coast football and being married into a Michigan situation. 581 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 2: It was a nice lovely cross section of my interests. 582 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 2: First of all, we maybe should not call it a 583 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 2: revenge spot. It's a revenge spot for fans, But when 584 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 2: you look at the Michigan offense, when you look at 585 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 2: the Washington rosters we're talking about, like the Mississippi State 586 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: quarterback handing off to the Arizona running back throwing to 587 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 2: a receiver who did not play in the National Championship game, 588 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: it was a very impressive performance from Washington. It was 589 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 2: a cleaner Washington than we've come to see this year 590 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 2: in terms of forcing turnovers, not making stupid mental errors, 591 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: leaning on what's working, and not abandoning things like that. 592 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 2: It was a good performance from a Washington team looking 593 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 2: for an identity. It was a complete performance. And yes, 594 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 2: Michigan made a change at quarterback. Yes, Michigan has been 595 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 2: a team that has struggled to throw the forward past 596 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 2: the season with various quarterbacks successfully consistently. Yes, it was 597 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 2: a road game, a couple of time zones away, of 598 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 2: which I think teams are one in seven now in 599 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 2: the Big Ten traveling at least two time zones away. 600 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 2: I think it was only Indiana who won that game 601 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 2: against UCLA. That's the lone winner thus far. Long travels 602 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 2: Washington should have won that game. Washington was favored to 603 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 2: win that game. Denzel Boston is emerging as a really 604 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 2: interesting receiver in this sport for the Huskies. 605 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. 606 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 2: I made the point before the game that Michigan has 607 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: been a team that has you know, they won from 608 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 2: a couple of freak plays against USC and Minnesota, and 609 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 2: they were due to not get those bounces. 610 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: Every week, and they didn't. They didn't, they didn't. 611 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 3: And I think one other interesting point in this game, 612 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 3: and this is something I know you've brought up before, 613 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 3: the Michigan defense. 614 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: I think we are. 615 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 3: We were very quick to point out in the preseason 616 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 3: that well, regardless of what the offense looks like with 617 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 3: all its turnover, the Michigan defense is still going to 618 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 3: be in a very good place. Yeah, not to say 619 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 3: it's not a good defense, but your point has been 620 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 3: hasn't been quite as good as expected. It's a different year, 621 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 3: it's a different defense, it's run by a different guy. 622 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 3: There are different pieces like, yes, Josiah Stewart is there, 623 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 3: Will Johnson went healthy? 624 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 6: Is there? 625 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: Mason Graham, Kenneth Grant, like there are guys who are 626 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 2: going to be incredible hot, incredibly high draft picks in 627 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 2: the NFL that have been incredibly successful Big ten College 628 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 2: football playoff defenders. Doesn't mean as a whole they're the 629 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: same thing, and. 630 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 3: They aren't the same thing. Because Will Rogers threw for 631 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 3: two seventy one and two scores, they rush for over 632 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 3: one hundred and ten yards. I think it was one 633 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 3: hundred and fourteen yards and a touchdown. As a team, 634 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 3: they were able to move the football pretty effectively in 635 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 3: this game, especially through the year with Will Rogers. So 636 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 3: you know, this is just not the same Mischiga team. 637 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 3: And sometimes you have this after you win a title 638 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 3: and after there's turnover, whether it's personnel or staff or otherwise, 639 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 3: and this is just sort of nature of the Beast. 640 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 3: Michigan probably was not the number ten team in the country, 641 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 3: even though they were graded there by. 642 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: Voters. 643 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 3: I don't think you or I were under any illusions 644 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 3: that they should be ranked that highly. It was just 645 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 3: a matter of time until we saw a game like this, right, 646 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 3: and I thought they would win. I thought they would 647 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 3: be able to rush the football, that they would be 648 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 3: able to play the same game plan that they've been 649 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 3: playing all year, and that they would emerge victorious here 650 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 3: by a nose, and in reality that wasn't enough. 651 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: In reality, this is. 652 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 3: A Washington team that if you're going to beat him, 653 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 3: you need to have a little bit more balance. And 654 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 3: even though Michigan made the bar or you need to 655 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 3: have Kyle Mananai or you need to have Kamanangu. Yeah, 656 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 3: but for John mattiir John Matier from Wazoo. But even 657 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 3: though Michigan tried going to Jack Tuttle, we saw another 658 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 3: quarterback in this game. They still have this issue with 659 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 3: really getting much down the field in the passing game. 660 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 3: M ten of eighteen ninety eight yards a touchdown in 661 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 3: that late pick. So it's just there's no explosion that 662 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 3: teams need to worry about, and that makes it easier 663 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 3: to stop the offense as a whole if you are 664 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 3: a better team with you know, more resources on defense. 665 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is another conversation we had about Michigan. Again, 666 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 2: not the story here Washington is the story a nice 667 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 2: bounce back when after you know, a tough two or 668 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 2: three weeks. Here the story is the fact that if 669 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 2: Michigan wanted to have a downfield passing game, they would 670 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 2: have developed not just a quarterback but an offensive line 671 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 2: and rotational guys to step in, because it's certainly hard 672 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 2: to find those guys in the portal, and their receiver 673 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 2: development has been pretty underwhelming. They've lost a couple of 674 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 2: interesting guys to the portal, But really it's just that 675 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 2: room is not stocked with players who can change games 676 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 2: in the way that a lot of the teams on 677 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 2: their schedule have those guys. And so Michigan is not 678 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 2: built to be a dynamic offense this year. And we've 679 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 2: all rooted for teams like this, it's just not Michigan's 680 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 2: ear to do it. Then there's the USC game. Yeah, man, 681 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 2: Minnesota one is from twenty four to seventeen. Maybe a 682 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 2: little bit of controversy, I guess depends on your point 683 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 2: of view. I don't know. Yeah, it's literally your literal 684 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 2: point of view in watching PJ Fleck call a fourth 685 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 2: and goal play that was ruled not a stop on 686 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 2: the field and then overturned to be a touchdown. But 687 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 2: that's a play continue. 688 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 3: Overturn to be a touchdown, So PJ could have kicked 689 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 3: the field goal. 690 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 2: Yes, about fifty some odd seconds left. 691 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 3: About a minute in the moment, yeah, give or take 692 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 3: and it was fourth and goal. It would have been 693 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 3: a chip shot field goal such that the wind wouldn't 694 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 3: even have played much a factor. 695 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: Now, let's be honest. 696 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 3: But he decides that he wants to go for the touchdown, 697 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 3: which I thought was a bold move. I was standing 698 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 3: up and Yep did the surrender Cobra, trying to figure 699 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 3: out why is he doing this because this hopefully this 700 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 3: won't come back to fight him. 701 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 2: And had been played played USC's offense well, the Minnesota 702 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 2: made him real well. Has been playing had played USC 703 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 2: really well to that point. 704 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, played played him extremely well. He decides to go 705 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: for it. 706 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 3: They do sort of the tush push thing, the quarterback 707 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 3: sneak Max Brosber on the field is ruled short. But 708 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 3: then they go to replay and our friend Yogi Roth 709 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 3: was on the call and talking it through, and it 710 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 3: was clear that Max Brosberg's helmet is torso seemingly the 711 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 3: football made it across the goal line. The interesting part, 712 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 3: justin do you want to be technical about it, is 713 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 3: they aren't supposed to overturn anything unless there is very obvious. 714 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:47,240 Speaker 2: Or visual evidence. 715 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, to conclusive video. 716 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 2: The toe did drag before you know, like there's like 717 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 2: we have this zoom on like this moment, like, oh, 718 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,240 Speaker 2: it was the ground that caused the fumble. 719 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: We now see that based on this slow motion. 720 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 3: Yes, when they can pull up the NBC it in 721 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 3: a little magnifying glass and show you that type of thing, 722 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 3: like you need to have conclusive video evidence. I don't 723 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,240 Speaker 3: think we really had that. I thought it was a touchdown. 724 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 3: You felt like it was a bad call. 725 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 2: I just I'm trying to understand the rule here, right, 726 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 2: Like it had touchdown vibes to me as I watched 727 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 2: the player, You're like, that seems like a touchdown. But 728 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 2: if it's not called a touchdown on the field, then 729 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 2: let's see some clarity to it, right, And I understand that, 730 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 2: Like you just couldn't see the ball, So what are 731 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 2: we doing with this rule? 732 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 5: Then? 733 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 2: Like what there are going to be plays where you 734 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 2: can't tell though obviously something either happens or doesn't. And 735 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 2: so as I watched this play, I saw Max Brosmer 736 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 2: seem to summit the mountain that was the goal line. 737 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 2: He crossed the plane to my eyes while holding the ball. 738 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,800 Speaker 2: Now the ball kind of squirted out and it was unclear, 739 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,919 Speaker 2: but like none of that was clear on replay either, 740 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 2: so I don't I might quite is just like if 741 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 2: you're not going to call it a touchdown on the 742 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 2: field and you're going to take your time to review 743 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 2: it and look for something clear that the ball crossed 744 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 2: the plane in the replays that were shown on TV anyway, 745 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 2: and there was no like infrared imaging to show the 746 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 2: ball in the middle of a bunch of bodies crossing 747 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 2: the plane. That's the next frontier tie. People talk about lasers, 748 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 2: infrared imaging. I want to see the ball through like 749 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 2: a heat map of livers and spleens. I want to 750 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 2: see that tie. This is going down a weird place. 751 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 2: You couldn't see it. To me, you couldn't see the 752 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 2: ball cross the plane. And so if that if we 753 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 2: need clear evidence, we didn't get it. Well again, touchdown 754 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 2: vibes to me. You show me that video as like 755 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 2: a guy on a couch. I'm like, that seems like 756 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 2: a touchdown to me. What are we doing with rules 757 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 2: if we're not going to stick to them? 758 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 3: Put the chip in the ball? I need I need 759 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 3: the chip, You need a chip, lasers or whatever. We 760 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 3: need to figure out a way to do this. Maybe 761 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 3: that could be the next frontier. Yeah, Max Brosberth three 762 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 3: rushing touchdowns here, none bigger of course than that last one. 763 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 3: And I thought Minnesota did a good job forcing turnovers 764 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 3: and in their own right, keeping this USC offense down. 765 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 3: More to the point, yeah, big ten teams traveling two 766 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 3: or more time zones have not fared very well thus 767 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 3: far this season. We will see what happens next week 768 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 3: as Penn State travels to USC, as Ohio State travels 769 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 3: to Oregon. There are some more situations like this that 770 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 3: we're going to see unfold throughout the course of the year. 771 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 3: But this is just another example of one of those 772 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 3: games that we called out. Frankly, it's been really tough 773 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 3: to travel that far, especially into a raucous home night environment, 774 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 3: and expect to come away with the victory and Minnesota. 775 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: Minnesota got the job done. 776 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 3: So after PJ Fleck and Minnesota on the whole urge 777 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 3: fans not to give up on the team, they certainly 778 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 3: reward that loyalty by knocking off the number eleven team 779 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 3: in the country twenty four to seventeen. 780 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 2: Very strong, especially the way that Michigan game ended for 781 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 2: Minnesota with the phantom offside on the on side kick, like, 782 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 2: I understand the frustrations. If you're a Minnesota fan and 783 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 2: feeling gleeful after this one, you should. That was a 784 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 2: really impressive win from Minnesota, especially with what they were 785 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 2: able to do in bottling up and keeping USC's defense. 786 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 2: Excuse me, USC's offense in front of it. And if 787 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 2: you're a USC fan, I feel for you. But if 788 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 2: you need a play at the end of a game 789 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 2: and you give away what you did during the game, 790 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 2: looking as a rhythmic as USC's offense looked at times 791 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 2: in this game, you didn't necessarily earn a win. And 792 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 2: when you had a minute to drive the field and 793 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 2: you couldn't do it successfully with whatever fourth fifth year 794 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 2: quarterback and all these you know, I think pretty tremendous receivers, 795 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 2: You had a shot, you had a bunch of drives 796 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 2: to get it done, and you didn't. And so I 797 00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 2: you know, I'm not gonna like cry a ton of 798 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 2: he is for USC in this one, even if I 799 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,240 Speaker 2: disagree with the way the refs handled that that specific scenario. 800 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 3: Point number six, as we come on the air this 801 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 3: evening talking about Week six is let's stay with the 802 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 3: big ten for a second. Oh baby, the Big Ten's 803 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 3: in an interesting place right now because as I look back, 804 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 3: I feel like I have more questions and answers. So 805 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,800 Speaker 3: we just talked about the two upsets, right Michigan USC 806 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 3: were highly ranked. 807 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: Both go down. 808 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 3: Yes, Ohio State truly the only team that separated against 809 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,879 Speaker 3: a good opponent. I guess you can debate Oregon whoa whoa? 810 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,280 Speaker 3: You can debate ohoh Oregon. 811 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, Tie. 812 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 2: Let's let's take a knee real quick. I'm going to 813 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 2: give you the option right now, Indiana or the field. 814 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 3: Ah okay, I'm just no manas struggled for a while 815 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 3: with Northwestern, you know, the double digs win on the. 816 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 2: Lake tie beautiful day by the way, in the north 817 00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 2: shore of Chicago. 818 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 3: They struggled. Ohio State pulled away late. They eventually ended 819 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 3: up winning this game thirty five to seven. They win 820 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,839 Speaker 3: going away against Iowa. That was a nice win for them. 821 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 3: The Oregon game on my second half, nice second half. 822 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 3: The game on Friday night left a little to be 823 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 3: desired on the part of Dylan game throws. 824 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 2: Two throws, So there was that too, horrible, horrible, just 825 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 2: daggering throws. 826 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: The Penn State game was frustrating at best. 827 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 3: Huh, twenty seven to eleven, they knock off you or 828 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 3: UCLA excuse me, but no. 829 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 2: Nick Singleton. 830 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: Nick Singleton was out, he was out there, he was dressed. 831 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: He did not play. Okay, he'll be fine. I'm not 832 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:47,800 Speaker 1: worried about that situation. 833 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 3: The Nebraska game was fourteen to seven. We expected a 834 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 3: rock fight there. They end up beating Rutgers. I guess 835 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 3: it depends on when you got the line as to 836 00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 3: whether or not he's. 837 00:41:58,680 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 5: Going to it. 838 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 2: Good teams win, great teams win by seven at six 839 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:04,439 Speaker 2: and a half. 840 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's that you mentioned the Indiana game they 841 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 3: did win by seventeen. 842 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, on the road against Northwestern. 843 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 3: And then there's the Wisconsin Purdue thing, which I mean 844 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 3: Perdue is just in a really bad place right now. 845 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 3: They lose by a fifty two to six score. I 846 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 3: guess the broader point here, the broader question is what 847 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 3: does the totem pole look like now in the Big ten? 848 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 3: Is it truly Ohio State, Oregon and then Penn State 849 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 3: and Indiana? 850 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: Like where? 851 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 3: How would you rank these teams as you think about this, 852 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 3: because I'm looking at it right now, I'm looking at 853 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 3: the whole of college football, and Ohio State might be 854 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 3: one of the only teams I feel like we can trust. 855 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 2: Ohio State is the most trustworthy right now. And I 856 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 2: came away impressed with their second half strategy of like, well, 857 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 2: we're not really consistently doing much on offense, and when 858 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 2: we do we kind of mess up at the end 859 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 2: of a drive. What if we just kind of threw 860 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 2: it down veiled Jeremiah Smith like that, what if we 861 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 2: just one hand, two hands, it doesn't matter. And so 862 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 2: that that was a nice little strategy by Chip Kelly 863 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:13,280 Speaker 2: and Ohio State. And as the third quarter unfolded against Iowa, 864 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 2: they overwhelmed Iowa and the Iowa offensive line and Cade McNamara, 865 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 2: and they look like a championship team. As far as 866 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 2: trust at the top of the conference, I'll put Ohio 867 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 2: State in Oregon alone in this moment. Oregon has not 868 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 2: given up a non garbage offensive touchdown in a few weeks. 869 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 2: Their defense and especially the defensive line, is looking quite strong. 870 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 2: They're taking care of business against weaker opponents like Oregon State. 871 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 2: UCLA and Michigan State looked pretty similar against Michigan State 872 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 2: as Ohio State did. I'm sort of waiting see with 873 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:43,479 Speaker 2: Penn State. 874 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. 875 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 2: Recent performances make me think Penn State has a very 876 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 2: good defense and an offense that, you know, drive to drive, 877 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:56,320 Speaker 2: quarter to quarter can be variable. Indiana just got to 878 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 2: see him against a power team. Just got to see 879 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 2: him against you know, we need a measuring stick game 880 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 2: for Indiana. I don't know when that happens. I suspect 881 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 2: it's happening relatively soon. I don't know if it's this 882 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 2: coming week or the week after. So does Indiana have 883 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 2: coming up? 884 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:12,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, Indiana's got Nebraska next, Okay, on by this coming week. 885 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 3: So they're coming out out of a bye, going to Nebraska, 886 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,320 Speaker 3: and this is when it really starts to get interesting 887 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 3: for them. So Indiana six and oher congratulations to the 888 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 3: Whoho eligible. 889 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, bull eligible. 890 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 3: But Nebraska, Washington at Michigan State, Michigan, Ohio State, and 891 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 3: Purdue their final six games of the year. 892 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 2: Body if they are somewhat in the vicinity of what 893 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 2: they've shown themselves to be ten Indiana, they're not built. Okay, 894 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 2: we're getting ahead of ourselves in India. I think it's 895 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 2: okay to put yourself out there and allow yourself to 896 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,399 Speaker 2: be hurt right dance like nobody's watching, et cetera. They're 897 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 2: not built, they don't have the depth. Like in my mind, 898 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 2: I think about it win team a certain way, and 899 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 2: I think Indiana, depending on how they recruit. I know 900 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 2: they're in it for like a five star quarterback right now, 901 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 2: a potential flip. Yeah, if they continue to play at 902 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 2: this level. But there's a reason why we say depth, depth, depth, depth, depth, 903 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,400 Speaker 2: right that when a left guard goes down, when an 904 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 2: outside linebacker goes down, when a safety goes down in 905 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 2: week nine, week ten, and you don't look the same 906 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 2: because you haven't built up your roster over two three years, 907 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 2: your team's just gonna look different. I'm not taking gonna 908 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 2: lose to Michigan State or Michigan. 909 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 1: I think Nebraska's gonna be a problem for them. Where's 910 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 1: that game, Lincoln game? The games in Bloomington, Oh okay. 911 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 3: I think that game is gonna be a problem for 912 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 3: him though, because Nebraska is going to give them a 913 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 3: taste of black defense they have not seen. And frankly, 914 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 3: some of the other schools that they've got coming up 915 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 3: here Michigan, even Michigan State has played well on defense. 916 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 3: Ohio State goes without saying they're going to get a 917 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 3: chance at some actual defenses here. I agree over the 918 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 3: next couple of weeks, and I think their own defense 919 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 3: will be tested in a way that you know. I mean, 920 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 3: we've seen team too though right now. Of those teams, 921 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 3: the non Ohio State teams, Washington, who will t their defense, 922 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,360 Speaker 3: I think Nebraska can test their defense. 923 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 2: What is Nebraska done offensively these past couple of weeks. 924 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 3: I think they're at least a team that's got some 925 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 3: balance to them. This is not to say they're going 926 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 3: to go out there and put up fifty, but they 927 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 3: can run the ball. 928 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 1: We know they can throw the ball at Dylan Royola. 929 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,280 Speaker 2: By the yards per attempt against Rutgers today. 930 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:26,439 Speaker 5: I think. 931 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,839 Speaker 3: I think Washington has a pretty good offense. I think 932 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,359 Speaker 3: we saw that three against Michigan, and so I look, 933 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 3: they're going to have an opportunity here to prove their 934 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 3: medal before long. There is a trust question though about 935 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 3: them that I think is is something we're going to 936 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 3: need to monitor for the rein of the season. 937 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, what else do you have in the 938 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 2: Big Ten for me? 939 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 1: Anything? Yeah? I mean the other thing that just jumped 940 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: out to me in the Big Ten. 941 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,760 Speaker 3: Not to make this about Purdue, but the Purdue situation 942 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 3: is pretty bad right now. 943 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,799 Speaker 2: It's blake. Things are Blake and West leaf yeat. 944 00:46:59,200 --> 00:46:59,839 Speaker 1: It's really blake. 945 00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 3: They lost fifty two to six again to Wisconsin Braydon 946 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 3: Locke at something like three hundred and seventy yards passing 947 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 3: for the Badgers. I don't have the exact number, but 948 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,399 Speaker 3: a week after getting rid of their offensive coordinator Graham 949 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 3: Harrell to put up six points against Wisconsin team that 950 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 3: frankly is gettable. 951 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: That's not a great showing. 952 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 2: No produce the cure for the common Big Ten team. 953 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 3: At this moment, We've got Oregon versus Ohio State. Next 954 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 3: week we've got Penncate versus USC. We'll talk more about 955 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 3: that on the Thursday previews show. By the way, next 956 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,439 Speaker 3: week looks ridiculous in terms of high level matchups. Don't 957 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 3: know if we'll see this level of upsets, but you 958 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,719 Speaker 3: will see some heavy hitters playing against one another. Point 959 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 3: number seven is something I'm calling the acc blender. 960 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 2: Who's gonna say this? Next segment of the show is 961 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 2: brought to you by Eli Holstein. Colin Eli Holstein, your 962 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 2: struggling offense, maybe could have had him. 963 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 3: Eli Holstein transfers to Pitt from Alabama. 964 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 1: This is a new look Pit offense. 965 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 3: Pitt is undefeated Pit one in Chapel Hill for the 966 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 3: first time after seven previous losses. They are five and 967 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 3: zero for the first time since ninety one. He is 968 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 3: the first pit quarterback since Dan Marino to win his 969 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 3: first five starts. He looked really good. He was their 970 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 3: leading rusher, obviously their leading passer. Ended up throwing for 971 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 3: something like three eighty one. 972 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 1: Pitt looks good. They look good. 973 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 3: They struggled for a while with North Carolina. This was 974 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 3: a back and forth game. They eventually pull it out late. 975 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,720 Speaker 3: Thirty four to twenty four was the final. I feel 976 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 3: better about Pitt than I do Indiana. I feel similarly, 977 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 3: though in terms of that trust factor. I'd like to 978 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 3: see them play against a better defense. I'd like to 979 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 3: see them play against a better offense. I suspect before 980 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 3: long we'll have an opportunity to see that. But at 981 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,879 Speaker 3: time recording, I'm looking at teams like Pitt. I'm looking 982 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:09,839 Speaker 3: at teams like my SMU Mustangs, who suddenly are back 983 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 3: from the dead. Yeah, we wrote them off I wrote 984 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 3: them off for completely redeem yourself pareematurely after that game 985 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,919 Speaker 3: against BYU eighteen to fifty and whatever. 986 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 5: It was. 987 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 3: It a horrible game, but SMU goes to Louisville and 988 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,800 Speaker 3: wins by a thirty four to twenty seven score. 989 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,399 Speaker 2: It's the inverse Big Ten, right, It's all these Big 990 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 2: ten teams who can't travel in the acc They're well rested. 991 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,360 Speaker 2: They're all TSA pre check. They're very good at folding, 992 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 2: they pack sensible snacks, they've got the neck pillow. We're 993 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:46,359 Speaker 2: talking about expert travelers in the ACCY. You know, they're 994 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 2: wearing loafers, so they're not fumbling with their shoes at 995 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 2: TSA ty. They just have it as a science. They're 996 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 2: George clooneying up in the air. 997 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 3: They were very very good on the road this week, 998 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 3: to say the least. Yes, SMU, I think was a 999 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,239 Speaker 3: good example of that. Kevin Jennings had a really good game. 1000 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 3: Kevin Jennings is like Thomas Castillanos, but with thirty percent 1001 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 3: more calories. Okay, he's a better version of Thomas Castillanos. 1002 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, he's the uh the Expanded Edition DVD exactly. 1003 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 1: So SMU wins. 1004 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 3: Clemson looked really good on the road against Florida State. 1005 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:28,279 Speaker 3: They end up covering that point spread. I think the 1006 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 3: conference as a whole is incredibly interesting. It's not quite 1007 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 3: as interesting to me as the Big Twelve. But we 1008 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,960 Speaker 3: are now entering into a phase where, especially if Miami 1009 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 3: ends up losing. 1010 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 1: To Cal which right now score at the time of recording, 1011 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,879 Speaker 1: they're losing twenty eight to ten midway through the third quarter. 1012 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 2: Happened. Especially they didn't pack the snacks, they didn't pack 1013 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 2: the cashews. 1014 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,800 Speaker 3: Especially if Miami ends up going down. This whole conference 1015 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,319 Speaker 3: is even more of a hash than it is right now. 1016 00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,320 Speaker 2: Pitt of the field say it, gut reaction, pit of 1017 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:04,840 Speaker 2: the field, the field, I will, I will take the field. Okay, 1018 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 2: you're rooting for Pitt. That's new from you. Why not 1019 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 2: Penn State or Okay, they don't play. 1020 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 1: Each other, I know they should. Cowards. 1021 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,919 Speaker 3: Uh, Georgia Tech one, they knocked off Duke, gave Duke 1022 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:20,759 Speaker 3: their first loss. Uva beat Boston College. Nice, yeah, nice 1023 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,799 Speaker 3: little bit. Virginia Tech we got. 1024 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:23,359 Speaker 5: We got. 1025 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,240 Speaker 3: The very first reaver of this week was someone dunking 1026 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:27,800 Speaker 3: on us for picking Stanford. 1027 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:28,320 Speaker 4: No. 1028 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 2: Ashton Daniels in our defense. He was day to day 1029 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 2: lower body something. 1030 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,200 Speaker 1: After this. At the Clemson game, excuse me, I thought 1031 00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,319 Speaker 1: they look pretty good. Thirty one seven, they were game. 1032 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,760 Speaker 3: They never close, and uh, Wake beat n CY State. 1033 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,400 Speaker 3: Really scary moment for Grace mcconofe's I saw that the 1034 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,359 Speaker 3: brutal hit. They had to stretcher him off. I hope 1035 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:52,279 Speaker 3: he's okay. But Wake gives Ncctate another loss, which has 1036 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,800 Speaker 3: turned into one of the sort of shrug moments so 1037 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 3: far of this season. With what we see dot NC State, 1038 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,279 Speaker 3: Can we go back to Pitt for a minute if 1039 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,959 Speaker 3: you wish, of course, I wish. 1040 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 2: Pitt finished last year with the one hundred and twenty 1041 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 2: fourth most efficient scoring offense in America points per drive. 1042 00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 2: They were at number fifteen nationally. I'm not going to 1043 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,279 Speaker 2: hear too. I'm not here to recite statistics further. Eli 1044 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,759 Speaker 2: Holstein's really fun. I don't know how great he is. 1045 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:20,880 Speaker 2: He's a little bit reckless in a way that I 1046 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 2: kind of treasure. But des Reid is quite fun. The 1047 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,680 Speaker 2: defense got some stops and harassed the North Carolina offense. 1048 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 2: I feel bad for North Carolina in this moment, but 1049 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 2: Pitt is a nice example, and I joke about like 1050 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,480 Speaker 2: you could have had Eli Holstein. I don't know what 1051 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 2: Eli Holstein's transfer recruitment was like. But those pit receivers. Again, 1052 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:46,200 Speaker 2: North Carolina's defense running wide open time wide open. In 1053 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,520 Speaker 2: this game, there were plays where two receivers could have 1054 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,480 Speaker 2: come down with the ball. I don't know, Pit is 1055 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,839 Speaker 2: just it's what did we say. We made jokes about 1056 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,000 Speaker 2: this earlier in the week about Oklahoma State, the what 1057 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 2: did I like the third law of Gundy motion or 1058 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,480 Speaker 2: something like that. As soon as soon as you think 1059 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 2: Pitt is toast, as soon as you think Pitt is cooked, 1060 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,840 Speaker 2: they randomly go nine to three. As soon as you 1061 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,879 Speaker 2: think Pitt, oh, pretty decent, They'll bringing up a bunch 1062 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,440 Speaker 2: of guys on defense. They hire a crazy offensive coordinator, 1063 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 2: probably with the last the wrong signetti and look like 1064 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,600 Speaker 2: trash and Pat Nardozy is endlessly entertaining to me. But 1065 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,239 Speaker 2: as you know, as soon as you think one thing, 1066 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:26,080 Speaker 2: they're the other thing. 1067 00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 1: And they might be the. 1068 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 2: Most college football college football team this year. 1069 00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, by the way, let me just pay homage to 1070 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 3: my sweet sweet SMU Mustangs. Oh, as of course you should, 1071 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,279 Speaker 3: because they have put this scene together. They look good 1072 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 3: in this game against louis This was a good game 1073 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,799 Speaker 3: to watch. It was probably not a fun ending if 1074 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:51,840 Speaker 3: you were a Louisville fan. But I commend them on 1075 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:58,279 Speaker 3: keeping this thing together, on finding a way to make 1076 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 3: the quarterback change midstream, finding a way to build some 1077 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,680 Speaker 3: momentum back up now as they head into ACC play again, 1078 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,319 Speaker 3: with the state of this conference, and by the way, 1079 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,680 Speaker 3: Miami just gave up another touchdown and is now down 1080 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 3: thirty five to ten midway through the third quarter. Oh K, 1081 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:21,640 Speaker 3: with this being the state of play in the ACC, Yeah, 1082 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,759 Speaker 3: anything is possible. I'm not saying SMU or Pitt or 1083 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 3: any of these teams Louisville, it doesn't matter. I'm not 1084 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,840 Speaker 3: saying any of them are going to win the conference. 1085 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,880 Speaker 3: But I'm just saying it's out there now as a 1086 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,400 Speaker 3: result of losses like we have seen all throughout the 1087 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 3: course of today and SMU with their momentum, momentum is 1088 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,800 Speaker 3: now currency in college football. I would rather have that 1089 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,120 Speaker 3: than not to go on the road to beat Louisville 1090 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:46,640 Speaker 3: in the manner that they did to put up thirty 1091 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 3: four points I thought was damn impressive. I give them 1092 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,680 Speaker 3: a lot of credit for this, for putting it back together. 1093 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:53,520 Speaker 3: I think I'm back on the bandwagon. 1094 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 2: You're back on it PSMU. 1095 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 1: Why not? You only live once? 1096 00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:57,839 Speaker 5: Right? 1097 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,840 Speaker 2: Why wouldn't I Look, we looked at their schedule with 1098 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,080 Speaker 2: all sorts of assumptions in August about Wow, Flora State, 1099 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:06,960 Speaker 2: it's going to be a tough out even though it's 1100 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,480 Speaker 2: in in Dallas at SMU. I don't know what the 1101 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 2: rest of their schedule looks like. I don't have it 1102 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 2: memorized in front of me. 1103 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 3: Is go on at Stanford at Duke Home versus Pitt 1104 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:21,879 Speaker 3: Home versus Boston College, at UVA Home versus Col. 1105 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,759 Speaker 2: I mean, those Pitt and col games are huge, say 1106 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:32,840 Speaker 2: Kevin Jennings and Eli Holstein for the acc supremacy. Do 1107 00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,320 Speaker 2: you think that if Miami loses, and obviously by the 1108 00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,439 Speaker 2: time people are listening to the podcast version of the show, 1109 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 2: they will know if Miami came back and won after 1110 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:41,880 Speaker 2: being down twenty five, how much time is left in 1111 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:42,759 Speaker 2: this game as we're. 1112 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,440 Speaker 1: Speaking, it's like a quarter and a half still to go. 1113 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,040 Speaker 2: Okay, so we're in the middle of the third quarter. 1114 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,319 Speaker 2: So let's say Miami goes down down twenty five, right now, 1115 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 2: do you think there's a chance that Miami players run 1116 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,719 Speaker 2: into Virginia Tech players in SFO both having played in 1117 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 2: the Bay Area and awkwardly say like, wow, that game 1118 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,880 Speaker 2: was weird last week, right, you guys do, and just like, oh, 1119 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,279 Speaker 2: there's no problem traveling. Like Stanford didn't put up much. 1120 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:05,839 Speaker 2: I assume Cal, you guys are able to and there's 1121 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,799 Speaker 2: so much more talented and like Cal's got the fun 1122 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,480 Speaker 2: meme thing and they had game, but you guys took 1123 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 2: care of Cal. Right, we all, like you can't even 1124 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,319 Speaker 2: use the like travel across the country. Even though Cal 1125 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,600 Speaker 2: looks to be clearly better than Stanford. You're scoring ten 1126 00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:21,720 Speaker 2: points against Cal through you know, two and a half quarters. 1127 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,120 Speaker 1: Mario looked very perturbed on the side. What did I 1128 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:24,440 Speaker 1: tell you? 1129 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:29,680 Speaker 2: What did I tell you about Mario christaball in that stadium? Ty, 1130 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,239 Speaker 2: I'm just telling you you could go on and I'm 1131 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,239 Speaker 2: not going to put you on this spot. But like 1132 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,640 Speaker 2: if a current husband or boyfriend came to you and 1133 00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,399 Speaker 2: be like, tell me about this person you dated way 1134 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,239 Speaker 2: back when, like a little like do you have any 1135 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:43,680 Speaker 2: do you have any notes, You'd be like, oh, I've 1136 00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:48,520 Speaker 2: got notes. Oregon people still to this day feel that 1137 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,759 Speaker 2: about Mario. Oh We've got notes, and one of them 1138 00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,480 Speaker 2: is don't trust him in Berkeley. Trust in Berkeley or 1139 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,520 Speaker 2: in the Bay Area. They lost to Stanford when Stanford 1140 00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,560 Speaker 2: went three and nine. Remember that Joe Morehead was out sick. 1141 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,040 Speaker 2: Continue point number eight is the Big Twelve also headed 1142 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,960 Speaker 2: towards a wow buth that I have. I love the 1143 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:06,399 Speaker 2: Big Twelve. 1144 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:07,560 Speaker 1: This is figuring to be. 1145 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,879 Speaker 3: This is figuring to be one of the craziest years 1146 00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:15,279 Speaker 3: in college football. Yeah, WA had Iowa State pulling away 1147 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,160 Speaker 3: from Baylor good and winning that. 1148 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:21,280 Speaker 1: One, going over ty forty three to twenty one. They 1149 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 1: put up five hundred and forty two yards. 1150 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 3: Good by u K State Utah All, I believe we're 1151 00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 3: on by this week, West Virginia drilled Oklahoma State. 1152 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 2: It was a complete performance. 1153 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1154 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,439 Speaker 1: They ran for three hundred and eighty nine yards. 1155 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,680 Speaker 3: They had thirty one first downs, which has to be 1156 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,360 Speaker 3: more than some teams have all year. 1157 00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,440 Speaker 2: Probably let's look at like the UMass numbers. 1158 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it has to be more than some teams have 1159 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:47,000 Speaker 1: all year. 1160 00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:53,760 Speaker 3: W West Virginia absolutely annihilated Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State is 1161 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,600 Speaker 3: in a very weird place. They ended up pulling Alan Bowman. 1162 00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,800 Speaker 3: They want to get wrangle. I saw fans turning on 1163 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,360 Speaker 3: each other when I was going out there on Twitter 1164 00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 3: to see what the Oklahoma State contigent had to say. 1165 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 3: Suffice to say, our optimism about Oklahoma State with what 1166 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,120 Speaker 3: they had returning and for a lot of the optimism 1167 00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,720 Speaker 3: that you know, I think had been reported by people 1168 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 3: who are much closer to the team. It's definitely taken 1169 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 3: a weird turn at this point. So they are probably 1170 00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,640 Speaker 3: not going to be in the hunt for the Big twelve. 1171 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,600 Speaker 3: They may be in the running, as they always are 1172 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:32,080 Speaker 3: to knock off some teams that are. But West Virginia 1173 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,560 Speaker 3: certainly now in an interesting spot this conference. I think 1174 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,440 Speaker 3: as we get a little bit deeper into this thing, 1175 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:41,880 Speaker 3: it's going to be in a crazy spot. 1176 00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,080 Speaker 1: Colorado didn't play either, by the way. 1177 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,640 Speaker 2: The team that we should throw out there as we speak, 1178 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 2: Texas Tech up on Arizona eighteen to three. 1179 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:50,360 Speaker 1: Eighteen to three. 1180 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:54,919 Speaker 2: Texas started the second half. Yeah, Texas Tech, so worst 1181 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,400 Speaker 2: four and one team in college football history. 1182 00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 3: Say what you want about Texas Tech, but undefeated in 1183 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 3: friends definitely has the offense, not modern running events, but no, no, 1184 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:07,280 Speaker 3: they're there tonight they do. UCF was exposed to some 1185 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,080 Speaker 3: extent by Florida in their game. We can talk more 1186 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,720 Speaker 3: about that one on Tuesday. So just a lot of 1187 00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,120 Speaker 3: like general weirdness, I would say, would like to talk 1188 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,440 Speaker 3: more about the Big Twelve. We can do that perhaps 1189 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,680 Speaker 3: on the next episode. There were, frankly a lot of 1190 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 3: teams that were off, so we'll get to that. I 1191 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:24,840 Speaker 3: think maybe we'll play a little bit of a game 1192 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,000 Speaker 3: and talk about all things Big Twelve on Tuesday. 1193 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,520 Speaker 2: Here's here's the good thing about the Big Twelve. Okay, 1194 00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:35,000 Speaker 2: Kansas definitely lackluster in this moment right not living up 1195 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,840 Speaker 2: to expectations. I had to higher expectations of Kansas. Who 1196 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:39,680 Speaker 2: knows what the actual issues are. We need to deep 1197 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 2: dive it a little bit further. Oklahoma State is falling 1198 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,280 Speaker 2: off a cliff. Have not won a game in the 1199 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:48,360 Speaker 2: Big Twelve. Iowa State, Colorado, I would say, in this 1200 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 2: moment with Arizona looking down, maybe the best of Kansas 1201 00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,920 Speaker 2: State BYU if winning is a skill like we like 1202 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,440 Speaker 2: to talk about, they're skillful BYU is pulling out games. 1203 00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,640 Speaker 2: Does Iowa State play Colorado? Do you have that at 1204 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:03,720 Speaker 2: your fingertips or in your memory. 1205 01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll pull it up. We'll pull it up. 1206 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:10,160 Speaker 2: They're super interesting to me, and I'm leaving out asu 1207 01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,920 Speaker 2: Arizona State was the team that beat Kansas. That was 1208 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,600 Speaker 2: back and forth, kind of a wildcard to me. Love 1209 01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,280 Speaker 2: it or Levitt sam Levitt getting it done for the 1210 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:19,000 Speaker 2: sun Devils. 1211 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:20,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, big Call's fun. 1212 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 2: It's stupid, but it's fun. 1213 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:26,200 Speaker 3: Iowa State's got a big road game next week at 1214 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:26,960 Speaker 3: West Virginia. 1215 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:27,680 Speaker 1: Great. 1216 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:32,320 Speaker 3: They've also got UCF at home, Texas Tech at home 1217 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,680 Speaker 3: at Kansas. They close out the year final three weeks 1218 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,920 Speaker 3: home against Cincinnati, on the road at Utah home against 1219 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:39,400 Speaker 3: k State. 1220 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:40,400 Speaker 1: So it's backloaded. 1221 01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,160 Speaker 3: But part of why I really like this team is 1222 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 3: because it feels to me like they are complete. 1223 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,880 Speaker 1: Who Iowa State? Iowa State. 1224 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:50,960 Speaker 3: Yes, I really liked Iowa State in the preseason. You 1225 01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:52,920 Speaker 3: recall I was super high on that when we did 1226 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:53,400 Speaker 3: the preview. 1227 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:54,400 Speaker 1: And this is why. 1228 01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,520 Speaker 3: It's because I think Rock Goback is really good as 1229 01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 3: a quarterback. It's because I think they can run the ball. 1230 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,640 Speaker 3: I think they're good out wide, I think they're solid defensively. 1231 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,720 Speaker 3: They had a lot back coming into the season, and 1232 01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,480 Speaker 3: again we didn't really know what to make of this 1233 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,280 Speaker 3: schedule because we hadn't seen any of these teams back 1234 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,040 Speaker 3: in July when we previewed things. But as it is 1235 01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,280 Speaker 3: all shaping out, all these teams are flaws, all these 1236 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,680 Speaker 3: ten and this is what makes the Big twelve super interesting. 1237 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,400 Speaker 3: Every team has a fatal flaw. Maybe with the exception 1238 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:26,080 Speaker 3: of Iowa State. That's part of why I like them UCF. 1239 01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 3: We saw it today. UCF couldn't get Florida off the field. Sure, 1240 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,680 Speaker 3: if you ask some Clone fans, they have some notes, 1241 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:33,920 Speaker 3: I'm sure, but it feels like the other ones that 1242 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,000 Speaker 3: I'm looking at here, with Texas Tech, with Kansas, with Cincinnati, 1243 01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,800 Speaker 3: certainly with Utah, maybe Kansas State. 1244 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,000 Speaker 1: There's discussion there. But there are just a lot of 1245 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:43,040 Speaker 1: teams that are very flawed. 1246 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 2: Oh I think Kansas State house flaws. 1247 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:45,920 Speaker 1: They all flaws. 1248 01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, But I look at Iowa State and I say, 1249 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:50,120 Speaker 3: maybe they're the one that's the least flawed. 1250 01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:51,040 Speaker 5: Wow. 1251 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,000 Speaker 1: At this point, what a world we live in. Who 1252 01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:55,440 Speaker 1: to thunk it? Something to monitor? 1253 01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,040 Speaker 3: We will continue to talk about this. That's point eight 1254 01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:05,080 Speaker 3: point nine eleven. Let's get into Ashton gent. 1255 01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:10,040 Speaker 2: Because not a lot of defenses can Ashton. 1256 01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,640 Speaker 3: Gent is one of these players at this point who 1257 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:15,760 Speaker 3: it would be a crime if he weren't invited to 1258 01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,800 Speaker 3: New York. Ashton Gent Boise State running back. The first 1259 01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,160 Speaker 3: play of the game was a sixty three yard touchdown 1260 01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:26,080 Speaker 3: for him. He had another touchdown of seventy five yards today. 1261 01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,560 Speaker 3: He ended up with a buck eighty six and three touchdowns. 1262 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:32,560 Speaker 3: He's averaging close to eleven per carry. He is currently 1263 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:36,280 Speaker 3: outpacing Barry Sanders record year in nineteen eighty eight. Barry 1264 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,400 Speaker 3: Sanders had over twenty six hundred rushing yards in nineteen 1265 01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:39,800 Speaker 3: eighty eight. 1266 01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,880 Speaker 1: Was that the year where he beat up on somebody 1267 01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,840 Speaker 1: in Japan? Beat up on someone in Japan? I have 1268 01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:46,240 Speaker 1: no idea. 1269 01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,040 Speaker 2: There used to be a game every year in Japan, 1270 01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,040 Speaker 2: and I think he had like three hundred and twenty 1271 01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:54,760 Speaker 2: two yards, and except the Heisman in Tokyo via satellite. 1272 01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:59,080 Speaker 3: He finished the season if you include the bowl game, 1273 01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,560 Speaker 3: with over twenty eight hundred yards, but the regular season, yeah, 1274 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:05,280 Speaker 3: twenty six hundred. Nashton gent is on that kind of 1275 01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:10,200 Speaker 3: pace right now. So there is a conversation to be 1276 01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,080 Speaker 3: had and we can kind of roll this in with 1277 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:16,800 Speaker 3: point number ten, which was basically on the whole some 1278 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,439 Speaker 3: other G five teams that are making hay. Both Army 1279 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,120 Speaker 3: and Navy are unbeaten. Liberty is also unbeaten. Those are 1280 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:26,880 Speaker 3: the only three unbeaten G five teams at present, Because 1281 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:30,400 Speaker 3: you UNLV lost on Friday night to Syracuse in overtime. 1282 01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:32,640 Speaker 3: The conversation that I want to have, though, if we 1283 01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,840 Speaker 3: kind of meld these two together, is who do we 1284 01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:40,480 Speaker 3: put above whom? If Boise State goes the rest of 1285 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,840 Speaker 3: its season without losing, having that one loss being against 1286 01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:48,200 Speaker 3: a pretty good team, potentially a Top five team, and 1287 01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,200 Speaker 3: we have teams like Army and Navy playing each other, 1288 01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,920 Speaker 3: one of them emerges from their conference unbeaten. Presumably their 1289 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,000 Speaker 3: only losses at that point outside of whoever wins the 1290 01:03:58,040 --> 01:03:59,720 Speaker 3: title game would be against Notre Dame. 1291 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,280 Speaker 1: If I want to assume that as a loss. 1292 01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,400 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know, man, I've seen some Navy Notre 1293 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:04,840 Speaker 2: Dame mats. 1294 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,400 Speaker 3: I think Liberty probably goes unbeaten at this point. I 1295 01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,760 Speaker 3: don't see a whole lot of resistance in their path. Yeah, 1296 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,280 Speaker 3: we also still have teams like Tulane that are lingering 1297 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:16,040 Speaker 3: out there to win. 1298 01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,680 Speaker 1: I think is pretty good. Put up seventy one this 1299 01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:20,280 Speaker 1: week on you ab. 1300 01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,320 Speaker 3: Yep, there is a question that I'm very curious to 1301 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,840 Speaker 3: see what the committee has to say about this with 1302 01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,200 Speaker 3: respect to Boise State and do you value them in 1303 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,760 Speaker 3: their one loss and obviously the biggest star I would 1304 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,760 Speaker 3: say in G five right now, Nash gent over what 1305 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:38,640 Speaker 3: we might see on the resume of some of these 1306 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:39,200 Speaker 3: other schools. 1307 01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:44,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean does Notre Dame have both of the 1308 01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:45,600 Speaker 2: service academies. 1309 01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:46,840 Speaker 1: They have both Army and Navy. 1310 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,160 Speaker 2: Okay, so we'll have common opponent there, which Notre Dame 1311 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,160 Speaker 2: should probably go through this season at this point as 1312 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,479 Speaker 2: a top twenty ish team the very least. 1313 01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:57,040 Speaker 1: I mean, they're going to be a playoff team at 1314 01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:57,400 Speaker 1: this point. 1315 01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:59,800 Speaker 2: What are they ranked right now with these losses I 1316 01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:00,640 Speaker 2: had of them, I. 1317 01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,040 Speaker 3: Think they were something like fourteenth in the coaching pole 1318 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,920 Speaker 3: or the ap pole, So they're well within striking differsons. 1319 01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:08,800 Speaker 3: And if we keep having weeks like this, which you 1320 01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,600 Speaker 3: know we're going to, right, as long as they don't lose, 1321 01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:13,000 Speaker 3: they're going to end up in that top twelve. 1322 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:18,320 Speaker 2: So schools like Tulane, Army, Navy, Boise State both get 1323 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:22,520 Speaker 2: the benefit of scheduling up scheduling really good Power Conference 1324 01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,280 Speaker 2: teams quote unquote power conference in this moment, and Liberty 1325 01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:28,400 Speaker 2: does not. They're not scheduling, and obviously schedules are made 1326 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,640 Speaker 2: in advance, but Liberty does not schedule in that same manner. 1327 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:35,320 Speaker 2: I think it's strength of performance at this point that 1328 01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:40,840 Speaker 2: if we need to say, yes, record matters, period. Also 1329 01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:45,000 Speaker 2: on top of records mattering, let's look at the manner 1330 01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,360 Speaker 2: in which you are winning these games. Let's look at 1331 01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,720 Speaker 2: how dominant your offense is. Let's look about how dominant 1332 01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,200 Speaker 2: your defense is against the best teams that you are playing, 1333 01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:56,840 Speaker 2: and try our best to project that forward into saying 1334 01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,840 Speaker 2: who has earned this spot, because like Liberty going third 1335 01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,800 Speaker 2: know and Boise going twelve and one are not They're 1336 01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:04,720 Speaker 2: not just they're not equal data points and they don't 1337 01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,920 Speaker 2: tell the whole story. So I'm looking for a strength 1338 01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:11,000 Speaker 2: of performance in this moment. I'd be curious to hear 1339 01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:12,720 Speaker 2: from the verballer hood out there. I know we have 1340 01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:13,840 Speaker 2: a lot of folks. 1341 01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:18,320 Speaker 3: Even if you're not specifically a G five fan, you're 1342 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:22,680 Speaker 3: interested in that whole side of this playoff discussion, because 1343 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:25,760 Speaker 3: there's going to be a committee that picks its favorite 1344 01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,880 Speaker 3: G five team. Essentially, it's G five conference champion. I 1345 01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,400 Speaker 3: would like to know what people think with respect to 1346 01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,000 Speaker 3: that conversation. Right now, I think I would favor Boise 1347 01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:35,880 Speaker 3: for as much as I would like for it to 1348 01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,000 Speaker 3: be Army or Navy, because I think that's a cool story. 1349 01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:43,320 Speaker 3: Both teams are dealing and look really really good. I 1350 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,640 Speaker 3: just feel like it's really hard to leave a one 1351 01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:50,000 Speaker 3: lost Boise State, provided it's a one lost Boise State 1352 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,000 Speaker 3: out of that playoff, knowing that they probably have the 1353 01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:54,880 Speaker 3: biggest star in G five and Ash and Gin. 1354 01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:57,439 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you something else, ty you ready? 1355 01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:57,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1356 01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:02,160 Speaker 2: There is a G five team that beat somebody on 1357 01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,920 Speaker 2: the road by twenty today, beat somebody by twenty two 1358 01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:10,080 Speaker 2: weeks ago, beat Texas State last week, beat Hawaii by 1359 01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:13,560 Speaker 2: double digits, beat Rice by twenty, and did lose to 1360 01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:17,080 Speaker 2: a Power conference team comfortably. And that is the Sam 1361 01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:21,040 Speaker 2: Houston Bearcats tie Was it Casey Keeler from Delaware all 1362 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:22,840 Speaker 2: those years back? Is that his name? The head coach? 1363 01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,000 Speaker 2: But we're just gonna have these schools pop up where 1364 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,000 Speaker 2: we're just be like, I'm sorry, Sam Houston nine and one. 1365 01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,680 Speaker 2: Should we be having a Sam Houston conversation? I mean, 1366 01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:31,960 Speaker 2: he's done great things there. 1367 01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:33,760 Speaker 1: But I don't know. 1368 01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:37,840 Speaker 2: I just it's week six right now, right, it's still happening. 1369 01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,080 Speaker 2: I think we should just appreciate that Army and Navy 1370 01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,680 Speaker 2: are undefeated, that we're having these stories of these teams growing, 1371 01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,720 Speaker 2: we're having Ashton gent by the way, gets wrapped up. 1372 01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:47,120 Speaker 2: It just keeps going. 1373 01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:48,200 Speaker 1: He's incredible. 1374 01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:52,000 Speaker 2: It's a suggestion. Tackling Ashton Genty is nothing more than 1375 01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,480 Speaker 2: a suggestion. When you're able to tackle him, that is 1376 01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,320 Speaker 2: a success story. We should give like all American status 1377 01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,480 Speaker 2: to anybody who just wraps him up for a loss. 1378 01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:03,959 Speaker 3: The interesting thing about his gait when he runs, watch 1379 01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:08,520 Speaker 3: his helmet. It stays perfectly level. Oh yeah, he has 1380 01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:12,360 Speaker 3: such a fluid running motion there, he's like a shark. 1381 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,920 Speaker 3: He's perfectly evolved over millions of years. Oh and there 1382 01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:19,600 Speaker 3: is no wasted motion. Yes, incredible. 1383 01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:21,679 Speaker 2: They've had a couple of those running backs in Boise 1384 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:26,000 Speaker 2: like that that are just killers. It's great as smart killers. Yeah, 1385 01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,000 Speaker 2: absolute killers. And I'll just call this out real quick. 1386 01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:30,479 Speaker 3: And then we'll get to points eleven and twelve and 1387 01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,160 Speaker 3: read tweets and play reverbs and all this stuff, and 1388 01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,680 Speaker 3: to other people are here for the un l V 1389 01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:37,120 Speaker 3: game on Friday Night was a lot of fun. 1390 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:38,960 Speaker 1: It was bonkers. It was great the bonkers. 1391 01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:42,439 Speaker 3: But Hodgwleake Williams is really good and I'm kind of 1392 01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,160 Speaker 3: bummed that we didn't get to see in the first 1393 01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,639 Speaker 3: couple weeks of the season. But there's still a lot 1394 01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:48,280 Speaker 3: in front of you and lv I still think this 1395 01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:52,360 Speaker 3: is a really, really good team. My takeaway though was 1396 01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,040 Speaker 3: a Kyle mccork can run a little bit faster than 1397 01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:56,760 Speaker 3: I expected. There were a couple of moments in that 1398 01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:57,519 Speaker 3: game where he. 1399 01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:58,840 Speaker 2: People say that about me too. 1400 01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,560 Speaker 1: People say that about and me as well, not a single. 1401 01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,600 Speaker 2: Time as somebody watched me run and be like I 1402 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,120 Speaker 2: didn't figure him for running like a gazelle, and I've 1403 01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:07,800 Speaker 2: been proven wrong. 1404 01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,160 Speaker 3: I thought Kyle McCord was fleet of foot that I 1405 01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:15,160 Speaker 3: remembered seeing. So there was that, and just Hodge Blake 1406 01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:18,639 Speaker 3: Williams is really really good for UNLV I also liked 1407 01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,960 Speaker 3: uh La Quinn Allen for Oh Yeah. For Syracuse there 1408 01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:23,960 Speaker 3: was some story and he just looked like he was 1409 01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,800 Speaker 3: hurt and he there was a conversation he had with 1410 01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:28,720 Speaker 3: fran Brown apparently like Frank was like, what do you 1411 01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:30,840 Speaker 3: like out of ten injury wise. He was like, I'm 1412 01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:32,679 Speaker 3: kind of like an eight out of ten. It's pretty bad. 1413 01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,280 Speaker 3: And he was like, you want to like rest? He 1414 01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,200 Speaker 3: was like absolutely not, no, and just kept running. Hit 1415 01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:39,560 Speaker 3: what four touchdowns in that game for Syracuse, including the 1416 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,960 Speaker 3: game winner and the other one. If we're calling out 1417 01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,439 Speaker 3: guys from that game, I listed him on my list 1418 01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:45,160 Speaker 3: of doodlers. 1419 01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,280 Speaker 1: But Ricky White the third for you, Oh my god. 1420 01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,320 Speaker 2: The punts, yeah, I mean he blocked a punt. 1421 01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,400 Speaker 3: He also caught ten balls for a buck thirty five 1422 01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:54,840 Speaker 3: in a touchdown, and he's. 1423 01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:56,960 Speaker 2: A one punt or two punts that he blocked. I 1424 01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:58,200 Speaker 2: might be confused, but continue. 1425 01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, he blocked one this week. I think he scored 1426 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,200 Speaker 3: or to touchdown on a block punt last week. 1427 01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:03,040 Speaker 1: Okay, got it. 1428 01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:06,240 Speaker 3: So he's on special teams and he's very very very 1429 01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:10,519 Speaker 3: much in the thick of every special team. Yeah, he's 1430 01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,960 Speaker 3: somebody who's gonna play on Sundays. So just get used 1431 01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:14,800 Speaker 3: to Ricky White the Third. He will find some way 1432 01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,559 Speaker 3: to contribute at the next level when he has done 1433 01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:19,920 Speaker 3: at UNLV. But what they are doing at you and 1434 01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,599 Speaker 3: know you and he's a good team. They're a really 1435 01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:24,599 Speaker 3: really good team. And they're fun to watch, So if 1436 01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,600 Speaker 3: you have an opportunity to watch them, I would encourage it. 1437 01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:32,759 Speaker 3: Let's close things out with point eleven and point number twelve. 1438 01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,559 Speaker 3: Point eleven is hey, Dan, have you seen their record? 1439 01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:39,680 Speaker 1: Oh? Have you seen that? Yukon is four and two? 1440 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:40,840 Speaker 3: No? 1441 01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:45,320 Speaker 1: Great? Did you see what Charlotte did today? I did 1442 01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:45,680 Speaker 1: see that. 1443 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:47,920 Speaker 2: Against a pretty decent ECU team, Your. 1444 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:51,160 Speaker 3: Boy, ogie, they put up fifty points on Yeah, they 1445 01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:52,000 Speaker 3: ran all over them. 1446 01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,160 Speaker 1: Yeah that's something. 1447 01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:54,760 Speaker 5: Hmm. 1448 01:10:55,000 --> 01:11:00,080 Speaker 3: How about ulm Dan four and one knocked off James Madison. 1449 01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:04,760 Speaker 2: Both Monroe and Louisiana in Lafayette, Louisiana. I don't want 1450 01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,360 Speaker 2: to piss anybody off that's supposed to call Louisiana laughya 1451 01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:09,479 Speaker 2: both thing really well? 1452 01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,599 Speaker 1: Yeah? Have you seen Troy as one in five under 1453 01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:13,280 Speaker 1: Jared Parker? 1454 01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,800 Speaker 2: My boy, I know you're following closely. I know you 1455 01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:18,280 Speaker 2: have Google alerts, I know you have push alerts for 1456 01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:19,519 Speaker 2: all Troy football news. 1457 01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:22,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. I still can't believe they hire the guy. I 1458 01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:22,840 Speaker 1: just I don't. 1459 01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,040 Speaker 3: I don't understand. I know there was connective tissue there 1460 01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:29,519 Speaker 3: and mm hmm. One in five makes perfect sense to me. 1461 01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:34,120 Speaker 3: App state is two and three they are, and they 1462 01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:35,000 Speaker 3: kind of look bad. 1463 01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:36,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't great. 1464 01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:41,280 Speaker 3: It doesn't It's not a simple fix this, and it's 1465 01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:45,040 Speaker 3: going to get better. It seems like, despite the fact 1466 01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,120 Speaker 3: that this is a team that had a lot back, 1467 01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,719 Speaker 3: there were high expectations for this version of what Sean 1468 01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:51,560 Speaker 3: Clark's squad was going to look like. 1469 01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,320 Speaker 1: Not looking good. Two and three, Can I give you 1470 01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:56,400 Speaker 1: a record? Please? 1471 01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:00,920 Speaker 2: The Houston Cougars TYE are two and four. Now, okay, 1472 01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,240 Speaker 2: I don't think Houston had scored a touchdown in like 1473 01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:05,240 Speaker 2: a matter of weeks. 1474 01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:05,920 Speaker 1: Yep. 1475 01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,639 Speaker 2: It had been gotten pretty dark in Houston. They make 1476 01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,360 Speaker 2: the change early against TCU and go to Xeon Chris 1477 01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,960 Speaker 2: who immediately goes fifteen of eighteen and has a seventy 1478 01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:18,640 Speaker 2: one yard touchdown run straight up the gut of the 1479 01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:19,799 Speaker 2: TCU defense. 1480 01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:20,720 Speaker 6: And No. 1481 01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,679 Speaker 2: Two and four is not an impressive record. I'm gonna 1482 01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:26,640 Speaker 2: this is a campaign platform I'm running on. Two and 1483 01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,599 Speaker 2: four is way better than one in five. And Houston's 1484 01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,599 Speaker 2: two and four and they ran all over. They held 1485 01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,000 Speaker 2: onto the lead against TCU, who could not get go, 1486 01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:36,519 Speaker 2: get things going on offense. 1487 01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:36,920 Speaker 1: Whatever. 1488 01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:40,360 Speaker 2: But Houston, Willie Fritz, We'll see what he's like a 1489 01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:42,439 Speaker 2: good sized dude. I want to say he's built solidly, 1490 01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,360 Speaker 2: he's obviously fast. I wonder what they look like moving 1491 01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:47,439 Speaker 2: forward in this big, weird big twelve. 1492 01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:52,560 Speaker 3: San Jose State is four and one. They are Kenniamadololo 1493 01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:56,000 Speaker 3: having a good start to his campaign. Air Force, on 1494 01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,160 Speaker 3: the other hands, one and four maybe one of the 1495 01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:01,200 Speaker 3: worst teams in college football. Yes, which is weird because 1496 01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:04,000 Speaker 3: they've had a good run at air Force is just 1497 01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:07,519 Speaker 3: not the year. No, not the year at all. Just 1498 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,760 Speaker 3: want to call some of those out. Point number twelve 1499 01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:15,200 Speaker 3: comes to us from our YouTube chat and McCall out 1500 01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:16,719 Speaker 3: poor Will whipper? 1501 01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:20,160 Speaker 1: Oh? Are you allowed to say that out loud? I 1502 01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:21,080 Speaker 1: guess okay? 1503 01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,800 Speaker 3: Would all of these upsets prove that the conversation over 1504 01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:31,599 Speaker 3: on Twitter about NIL has been overblown. It's an interesting point, 1505 01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:33,679 Speaker 3: especially since NIL is very much in the news. 1506 01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,400 Speaker 2: Well, just I need something more specific, not just the conversation. 1507 01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:39,479 Speaker 2: What is the specific point about NIL that it's like 1508 01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:41,240 Speaker 2: ruining the sport? Like, what is the point here? 1509 01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,240 Speaker 3: I think there are a couple points about NIL. I 1510 01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:48,679 Speaker 3: think there is a conversation around is it creating more parody? 1511 01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,600 Speaker 3: And I think the best case scenario, depending on your 1512 01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,680 Speaker 3: point of view, is that yes, that's the case. I 1513 01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,640 Speaker 3: also think that there is a conversation out there that 1514 01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:05,160 Speaker 3: and I has put into question the motivation of some players. Right, 1515 01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:07,760 Speaker 3: it's not just the Matt Sluka thing that we saw 1516 01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:11,759 Speaker 3: two weeks ago now, but there have been other talks 1517 01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:14,800 Speaker 3: of guys that are leaving to enter the transfer portal. 1518 01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:16,400 Speaker 1: Presumably there's some nil. 1519 01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, they want to preserve tenerabilities to make money. They're 1520 01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:21,920 Speaker 2: not playing as much as they thought they would be 1521 01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:23,439 Speaker 2: or making as much as they want to make. 1522 01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:29,800 Speaker 3: Okay, So do the upsets prove anything from an NIL standpoint? 1523 01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:31,680 Speaker 1: I don't think. I just I don't know. 1524 01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:35,799 Speaker 2: It's college football like this is every season, Like Bama 1525 01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:41,719 Speaker 2: loses games, sometimes Michigan loses games. Sometimes Ohio State loses 1526 01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:45,160 Speaker 2: to Purdue. They do are they look for a stretch there? 1527 01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,080 Speaker 2: They always looked like they were going to lose to 1528 01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:50,760 Speaker 2: or lost to Purdue, Ohio State lost to Iowa, and 1529 01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,920 Speaker 2: Nate Stanley randomly dropped fact check MEWN. This's like fifty 1530 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:57,960 Speaker 2: five points randomly one year. There is something very random 1531 01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:02,840 Speaker 2: about trusting to teenagers and young men to be consistently 1532 01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,880 Speaker 2: excellent and adhere to a hierarchy within a conference. Yeah, 1533 01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:10,320 Speaker 2: I mean, I think the sport some of the conversation. 1534 01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,280 Speaker 3: That I have seen is, you know, like Ohio State's 1535 01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,200 Speaker 3: a good example of this, right, Ohio State went out 1536 01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:16,960 Speaker 3: there and they didn't build their whole plane out of 1537 01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:21,160 Speaker 3: NIL players, transfer portal, what have you, But they were 1538 01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:23,280 Speaker 3: very selective with the guys that went out and got 1539 01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:23,720 Speaker 3: so far. 1540 01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:25,000 Speaker 1: I think those guys have been pretty good. 1541 01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,680 Speaker 3: But there are plenty of other examples players who have 1542 01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:30,559 Speaker 3: been assimilated into new rosters. I'll throw Riley Leonard out there, 1543 01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,120 Speaker 3: who have come in and I don't know if they've 1544 01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:37,160 Speaker 3: had anywhere close to the impact than many people expected 1545 01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:40,639 Speaker 3: or hoped. And so I just think on the whole 1546 01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,920 Speaker 3: the NIL thing, the transfer portal, the way that those 1547 01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,320 Speaker 3: two factors interact. 1548 01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:47,879 Speaker 6: It has. 1549 01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:55,600 Speaker 3: Maybe not had the immediate impact as some of the 1550 01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,960 Speaker 3: skeptics had predicted. 1551 01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,599 Speaker 2: Well, I also think if you're looking at certain schools 1552 01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:05,919 Speaker 2: like Oregon, like Miami, like Ohio State, whoever, like Texas, 1553 01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,800 Speaker 2: who are going out and trying to fill gaps via 1554 01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:11,720 Speaker 2: the portal, that it's going to take some time. Not 1555 01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:15,320 Speaker 2: everything's gonna gel immediately. Not everybody's gonna know like, oh, 1556 01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:17,840 Speaker 2: I know, we're down to cal big, but we can 1557 01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,559 Speaker 2: lean on what we did last year against NC State 1558 01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:22,680 Speaker 2: or against Boston College and go to. 1559 01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:23,799 Speaker 1: Go in that direction. 1560 01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:26,160 Speaker 2: Like there's not much you can look back on as 1561 01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:29,120 Speaker 2: a unit with some of these teams and say here's 1562 01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:32,760 Speaker 2: what worked when. And so that is the interesting thing 1563 01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:34,960 Speaker 2: to me that there are going to be a lot 1564 01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:39,400 Speaker 2: of teams who are works in progress for longer as 1565 01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:42,519 Speaker 2: the season goes on. And I don't know, I think 1566 01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,639 Speaker 2: that's okay as long as it's entertaining. It's also entertaining, 1567 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,400 Speaker 2: and we're entertained by the sport. And look there there 1568 01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:53,960 Speaker 2: are plenty examples of how quarterbacks have basically quote unquote 1569 01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:58,280 Speaker 2: transferred down and have made their new team better. 1570 01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:02,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, one good exampmple of that. I'll throw Haynes King 1571 01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:05,000 Speaker 3: out right. Not to say that Texas A and M 1572 01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:08,200 Speaker 3: was any kind of goliath when he left. And obviously 1573 01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:10,400 Speaker 3: Georgia Tech's a power conference team, but they hadn't done 1574 01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:13,120 Speaker 3: anything in a long time. Right, This is a very 1575 01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:15,680 Speaker 3: feisty Georgia Tech team with a good offense, and he 1576 01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,600 Speaker 3: is the trigger man. There are examples like that that 1577 01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:23,400 Speaker 3: aren't necessarily getting the biggest headlines, but you could look 1578 01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:25,519 Speaker 3: at and say, hey, that's a success story. So to 1579 01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:29,160 Speaker 3: that end, to that end, is it introducing a little 1580 01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:33,880 Speaker 3: bit more parody in the sport? Marginally so, And I 1581 01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,680 Speaker 3: think it's good. It's not the NFL, right, You're still 1582 01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:39,599 Speaker 3: gonna have twenty five point spreads. But at the same time, 1583 01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:41,080 Speaker 3: it does make some of these games and some of 1584 01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:43,839 Speaker 3: these conferences. Certainly it's made the ACC very interesting. 1585 01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,880 Speaker 2: Well, it's also just not the loan variable in the sport. 1586 01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:50,200 Speaker 2: Because of realignment and teams playing and teams traveling in 1587 01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:54,040 Speaker 2: new ways and playing later games, playing on Friday more 1588 01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:56,720 Speaker 2: often as we're seeing more of these games, there's just 1589 01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:58,800 Speaker 2: a bunch of variables at play here. So just to 1590 01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:02,360 Speaker 2: say that, like, is the common versation about nil overblown? Probably, 1591 01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,960 Speaker 2: but every conversation about this sport is overblown, and that's 1592 01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:08,040 Speaker 2: kind of the beauty of it. And I don't know, 1593 01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:10,160 Speaker 2: it's a short window that we get to watch college football. 1594 01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,040 Speaker 2: I'm not going to overthink it. It's a it's been 1595 01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:12,840 Speaker 2: a fun year so far. 1596 01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:16,960 Speaker 1: We ask people out on Twitter to fill in two blanks. 1597 01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:21,400 Speaker 3: We say, yes, I am a blank fan, and right 1598 01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:24,679 Speaker 3: now I feel blank and andrewven Sielan's doll a little 1599 01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:25,040 Speaker 3: role play? 1600 01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:26,200 Speaker 1: Shall we let's do it? 1601 01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:28,120 Speaker 3: Oh? 1602 01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:32,400 Speaker 1: If I'm with me? Who the hell am I? What 1603 01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:34,040 Speaker 1: did the fine people out there have to say? 1604 01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:34,280 Speaker 5: Dan? 1605 01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:38,519 Speaker 2: I'm a Virginia fan, cautiously optimistic. I'm an SMU fan. 1606 01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:42,200 Speaker 2: I'm feeling underrated. I'm a Pit fan, and I'm feeling 1607 01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:44,639 Speaker 2: like the stars are lining up for a special season 1608 01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:49,280 Speaker 2: out of nowhere. I'm a Buckeye, okay with playing to expectations. 1609 01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:51,360 Speaker 2: I'm an old miss fan in Kentucky probably has a 1610 01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:56,000 Speaker 2: top five defense in the country. I'm a uf SC fan, 1611 01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:59,800 Speaker 2: so that's South Carolina, not USC and feeling very well, 1612 01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,840 Speaker 2: not underwhelmed, not overwhelmed, just whelms. I'm a Florida State 1613 01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:09,080 Speaker 2: fan ready for the US men's national soccer team against Panama. 1614 01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:10,400 Speaker 1: How do you feel about that matchup? 1615 01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:13,000 Speaker 3: Tie, I got a lot of injuries, got a lot 1616 01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:15,960 Speaker 3: of injuries, but I'm optimistic to turn the page and 1617 01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:19,360 Speaker 3: start fresh under Mauricio poo Oh. 1618 01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:22,599 Speaker 2: I know you're very excited about that. Wake Forest fan 1619 01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:25,640 Speaker 2: feeling better after quality win. You mentioned the NC State win. 1620 01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:27,719 Speaker 2: Always good for Wake to win. Is that a quality 1621 01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:29,120 Speaker 2: time is that a quality win. 1622 01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:32,200 Speaker 1: Any win is a quality win for Wake in twenty 1623 01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,040 Speaker 1: twenty four. That is a fair point. 1624 01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:37,439 Speaker 2: Virginia Tech fan. I'm feeling like the transitive property is 1625 01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:40,680 Speaker 2: the most important aspect of college football. That's a good 1626 01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,439 Speaker 2: way to think about it. Georgia better than last week, 1627 01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:45,559 Speaker 2: by the way, didn't talk about Georgia Auburn a Ton. 1628 01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:48,000 Speaker 2: Georgia was fine. 1629 01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:49,880 Speaker 3: We didn't talk about it at all. Dan, We'll talk 1630 01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:51,720 Speaker 3: about it more on Tuesday. We'll talk about it more 1631 01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:53,879 Speaker 3: on Tuesday. I don't I'm not as down on Georgie's 1632 01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:57,240 Speaker 3: performance as you might be. I'm a UAB fan and 1633 01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,200 Speaker 3: I'm feeling like a victim of fraud. 1634 01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:03,599 Speaker 1: It's been a tough few weeks. 1635 01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:08,480 Speaker 2: Birmingham, I'm a Penn State fan. I'm feeling moderately satisfied. 1636 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:11,600 Speaker 1: I wouldn't put that in your vows. It's not a 1637 01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:12,160 Speaker 1: great place. 1638 01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:16,719 Speaker 2: I do take her to be my lovely bride because 1639 01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:19,960 Speaker 2: I am a moderately satisfied with this relationship. 1640 01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:22,360 Speaker 1: I'm a Vandy fan and I'm proud. Go doors. 1641 01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:24,599 Speaker 2: Do you see Nate Bargetti hosting Senter out Live noted 1642 01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:28,000 Speaker 2: Vanderbilt fan. Yep, that's pretty cool. Threw something out there 1643 01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:30,439 Speaker 2: that he was pretty pumped about it. West Virginia fan, 1644 01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:34,240 Speaker 2: and I'm feeling dangerous. I like that Oregon fan like 1645 01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:36,679 Speaker 2: I have absolutely no clue, zero clue what to expect 1646 01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:38,160 Speaker 2: next Saturday. 1647 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:42,400 Speaker 1: Next Saturday against the Ohio State Buckey is a big. 1648 01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:45,080 Speaker 2: Two time zones tie two time zones. 1649 01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:47,160 Speaker 1: I know, I have to start thinking about this. 1650 01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:50,560 Speaker 2: I credit I saw that from John Wilner of the 1651 01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:52,840 Speaker 2: San Jose Mercury News. Okay, I had that stat. 1652 01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:56,800 Speaker 3: We had a bunch of voice messages that came in. 1653 01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:58,679 Speaker 3: We had many that came in a little bit later. 1654 01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:00,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, baby, So I talked to Shay. 1655 01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:04,200 Speaker 3: He volunteered his services and maybe put together an extended 1656 01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:06,320 Speaker 3: cut which will post out on for Bowlers dot Com 1657 01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:06,839 Speaker 3: for anybody. 1658 01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,719 Speaker 1: Oh, I just did you know how it works? 1659 01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:10,000 Speaker 5: All right? 1660 01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:11,200 Speaker 1: I mean, there are game's going on now. 1661 01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:14,400 Speaker 3: It looks like Miami's gonna loseer down thirty eight eighteen 1662 01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:18,040 Speaker 3: with about fourteen minutes left in the quarter here in 1663 01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:21,880 Speaker 3: the final before the game goes final. So uh, there 1664 01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,240 Speaker 3: are going to be calls that come in probably three am, 1665 01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:26,559 Speaker 3: four am as a result of this one. But thirty 1666 01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:29,360 Speaker 3: eight eighteen here we are in terms of what we've 1667 01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:32,800 Speaker 3: got in the queue right now. We appreciate everybody dialing 1668 01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:34,760 Speaker 3: us at eighty five to five level three. Here are 1669 01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:36,719 Speaker 3: your week six reverbs. 1670 01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:37,160 Speaker 1: Have a listen. 1671 01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,880 Speaker 5: I'm dan, I'm tied. I'm going to pick Virginia Attacks 1672 01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:43,439 Speaker 5: to lose to stand for the week after they beat 1673 01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:44,600 Speaker 5: the number sixty in. 1674 01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:45,599 Speaker 3: The county over the road. 1675 01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:47,439 Speaker 5: I'm making a call on Friday. 1676 01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:53,960 Speaker 6: This is Mason currently driving laps around Disney World. 1677 01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:57,920 Speaker 5: Jayden from Jersey and I've had a whole night to 1678 01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,000 Speaker 5: think about it and I'm still not sure what happened 1679 01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:03,639 Speaker 5: after excubgable last night. We might have the worst pescial 1680 01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:07,120 Speaker 5: teams in the country. I will give my first born 1681 01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:11,960 Speaker 5: to let A and m play like this every single week. Hey, 1682 01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:15,320 Speaker 5: this is Drew from Miszoo. You know it's bad enough 1683 01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:18,920 Speaker 5: getting exposed on national TV like that, but to kick 1684 01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:22,840 Speaker 5: the sad field goal at the end. Come on, man, 1685 01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:25,040 Speaker 5: how do I talk to the people in my life 1686 01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:29,799 Speaker 5: about five and oh? Service Academy football is? I was football? 1687 01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:33,679 Speaker 5: Ready for the option to come back when lose? Who cares? 1688 01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:37,840 Speaker 5: Northwestern Stadium on the Lake is no it is place 1689 01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:38,360 Speaker 5: is awesome. 1690 01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:43,840 Speaker 6: Jokat Adam from Pittsburgh undefeated, non con check CD rival, 1691 01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:46,080 Speaker 6: check win in jump a host for the. 1692 01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:49,000 Speaker 5: First time in history. Check better, watch out it. It's 1693 01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:50,920 Speaker 5: going to keep checking all those boxes all the way 1694 01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:51,519 Speaker 5: to Charlotte. 1695 01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:55,280 Speaker 3: Where were you when nine Indiana Scott being an internet meme, 1696 01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:57,439 Speaker 3: Give Signetti all the money he wants. 1697 01:22:57,479 --> 01:23:01,400 Speaker 1: We're a football school now tonight, Yukon found a way 1698 01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:04,320 Speaker 1: to win a game in magical. 1699 01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:05,479 Speaker 5: Fashion, foreign too. 1700 01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:07,599 Speaker 1: Somebody wants us. 1701 01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:11,360 Speaker 6: Big twelve acc Mound West Pac twelve. 1702 01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:14,880 Speaker 5: I don't care. We're picking up the phone, thank you, 1703 01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:15,439 Speaker 5: and good night. 1704 01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:19,200 Speaker 4: If Stan doesn't want to read the drive chart from 1705 01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:22,360 Speaker 4: the Rutgers Nebraska game, I will do it for him. 1706 01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:29,639 Speaker 4: Down touchdown, punt, punt, missfield goal, interception, interception, touchdown interception, punt, down, punt, punt, punt, 1707 01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:33,880 Speaker 4: pun punt, touchdown, punts down down, end of game. 1708 01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:37,320 Speaker 6: Kevin performers Branch and I'd like to make sure everyone 1709 01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:40,560 Speaker 6: is aware that James Madison is no longer undefeated, and 1710 01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:43,880 Speaker 6: the sleeping giant on the shores of Bayou de Seared 1711 01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:47,240 Speaker 6: has awakened from its lenky slumber. 1712 01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:48,959 Speaker 1: Lookout sun Belt. 1713 01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:52,720 Speaker 3: Between cal Crushing game Day and Vender built upsetting Alabama 1714 01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:53,479 Speaker 3: this weekend. 1715 01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:56,559 Speaker 1: It's for the nerds. Welcome to Lewis skull Nick Saturday. 1716 01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:03,120 Speaker 1: It's pandemic. No, it's pneumonium in Nashville, Go Vandy. 1717 01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,080 Speaker 5: Today we are all commodores. 1718 01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:05,560 Speaker 6: Let's go. 1719 01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:07,880 Speaker 1: Bandy's one an amazing game. 1720 01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:10,400 Speaker 5: I don't know if this world is coming too, because 1721 01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:13,800 Speaker 5: I'm literally searching up. 1722 01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:18,759 Speaker 1: A Landy dog jersey for my Donkiego Diego. 1723 01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:22,200 Speaker 3: Pavia is thanking God and swearing on live TV after 1724 01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:23,120 Speaker 3: beating Alabama. 1725 01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:25,960 Speaker 2: This dude might as well be the naughty tim zeebo. 1726 01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:29,320 Speaker 3: Vama can handle the environment, but I guess they can't 1727 01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:33,720 Speaker 3: handle an active construction zone anger down. Vanderbilt won't even 1728 01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,639 Speaker 3: sniff a top twenty five ranking, and Alabama will probably 1729 01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:38,080 Speaker 3: win the national championship. 1730 01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:40,840 Speaker 1: But you can't tell me the results like today's don't matter. 1731 01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:45,240 Speaker 1: Go doors, smart guys with the dub. There you go, 1732 01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:46,719 Speaker 1: smart guys with the dub. 1733 01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,160 Speaker 3: What a way to close things out, dann Or have 1734 01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:53,880 Speaker 3: been seeing you appreciate everybody calling in at eight five, five, verbal, 1735 01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:58,320 Speaker 3: three yes, A wonderful assortment of listener voice messages. Like 1736 01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,880 Speaker 3: I said, there are many more that did come in 1737 01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:02,840 Speaker 3: that will come in over the course of the next 1738 01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:07,040 Speaker 3: few hours. My phone buzzes at like four am with 1739 01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:10,200 Speaker 3: all of these voice messages that come in. So we 1740 01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:14,400 Speaker 3: will do our part too, take care of whatever Miami 1741 01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:16,960 Speaker 3: thoughts are out there, as it looks like the Canes 1742 01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:19,600 Speaker 3: are going to be the sixth Top eleven team to 1743 01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:22,040 Speaker 3: go down this weekend on a crazy week six. 1744 01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:26,040 Speaker 2: At time of recording, Fernando Mendoza is averaging nearly. 1745 01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:27,920 Speaker 1: Seventeen yards per. 1746 01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:32,400 Speaker 2: Attempt throwing into this Miami defense, and they just keep 1747 01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:36,160 Speaker 2: showing a perturbed looking crystal ball on the sidelines, and 1748 01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:40,280 Speaker 2: he keeps checking his commsbox whatever is like hooked up 1749 01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:43,280 Speaker 2: to his belt loop, as if that's got something to do. 1750 01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:45,120 Speaker 2: Like when you're losing a video game and you're like 1751 01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:49,920 Speaker 2: this controller working, I'm fine, clearly, I'm doing everything right. 1752 01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:51,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, something is glitchy here. 1753 01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,200 Speaker 3: Look longer show than usual, But obviously we had a 1754 01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:58,000 Speaker 3: lot to get through. We still didn't get through at all. 1755 01:25:58,120 --> 01:25:59,840 Speaker 3: So if you didn't hear your team, or if you 1756 01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:03,160 Speaker 3: didn't hear us, unpack things in the level of detail 1757 01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:05,960 Speaker 3: that you're used to, come on back on Tuesday. 1758 01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:07,519 Speaker 1: We will do our best to go through it all. 1759 01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:08,040 Speaker 5: Then and there. 1760 01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:12,200 Speaker 3: But in the interim, Dan, this, as I said at 1761 01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:13,920 Speaker 3: the top, has been one of the craziest weeks I 1762 01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:16,760 Speaker 3: can remember. You and I were scrambling right up until 1763 01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,080 Speaker 3: the gun here at midnight, Yeah, to try and put 1764 01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:21,960 Speaker 3: together what this show was going to look like because 1765 01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:25,720 Speaker 3: there was too much to talk about. I didn't need 1766 01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:28,839 Speaker 3: so much happening. I didn't even get to Jason Bennetti 1767 01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:32,479 Speaker 3: carving out his portion of the Oregon broadcast to shout 1768 01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:36,639 Speaker 3: out the covered bridges in Lane County, which, by the way, 1769 01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:37,040 Speaker 3: he did. 1770 01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:39,360 Speaker 2: He shouted out. He was like, yeah, apparently if you 1771 01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:42,000 Speaker 2: tell a producer that there are a bunch of covered 1772 01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:45,040 Speaker 2: bridges in this county, they'll just go out and shoot 1773 01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:47,320 Speaker 2: video of them. And they showed a bunch of covered bridges. 1774 01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:50,960 Speaker 2: That's why I love this sport, because announcers love shouting out. 1775 01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:54,879 Speaker 2: You need like a Wisconsin announcer shouting out Lake Mendota. 1776 01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,479 Speaker 2: Does he or she needs to absolutely not. No, it's beautiful. 1777 01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:03,360 Speaker 2: It is beautiful and what we saw today. Apologies if 1778 01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:06,680 Speaker 2: your team was one of the victims. But this is 1779 01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:10,680 Speaker 2: the reason that people watch. This is the currency, the lifeblood, 1780 01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:12,480 Speaker 2: this is the engine. 1781 01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:13,880 Speaker 3: Behind the sport. This is the reason why we all watch. 1782 01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:16,840 Speaker 3: It's upsets like this. It's David versus Goliath. It's this 1783 01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:19,680 Speaker 3: contrast between the haves and the have nots, and the 1784 01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,920 Speaker 3: drama that kind of unfolds. So we are fortunate to 1785 01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:25,680 Speaker 3: be doing this once more. We are fortunate to have 1786 01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:28,400 Speaker 3: had a crazy week to discuss with the Verballer hood. 1787 01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:31,240 Speaker 3: Hit follow, hit subscribe if you have yet to do so. 1788 01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:33,240 Speaker 3: You can also go on out to verballers dot com 1789 01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:36,360 Speaker 3: if you want to further support what we do. As always, 1790 01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:39,840 Speaker 3: we appreciate the community at our back here helping us 1791 01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:43,040 Speaker 3: along and guiding us through what has been a crazy 1792 01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:47,160 Speaker 3: season thus far, with a lot more to come. Week 1793 01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:52,559 Speaker 3: seven will be crazy, I promised you, So make sure 1794 01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:54,160 Speaker 3: you're tuning in this week. 1795 01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:57,400 Speaker 1: Already nervous, Hi, already nervous for. 1796 01:27:57,520 --> 01:28:01,080 Speaker 3: That guy over there my self Tie Hilt the brand 1797 01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:05,639 Speaker 3: for the hundreds, for the thousands over ballers out there 1798 01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:06,960 Speaker 3: in the college football ether. 1799 01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,840 Speaker 1: Thank you so much again for supporting what we do. 1800 01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:13,240 Speaker 1: We will talk to you all. Stay solid, Peace,