1 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: Good morning swimmerl then, welcome to the No Dunks podcast 2 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: on the Athletic Network. It's Friday, March twelfth. This is 3 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: the drop hashtag full Squad. I'm j E. Skeet's rolling 4 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: today with mister what you need to Know Tasmellus. 5 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: Good morning everybody, Good morning Tassi. 6 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: We also got my top shot hot boy Trey Kirby. 7 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 3: Hey, hey, we've. 8 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: Got the international Man of Mystery taking it to the max, 9 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: looking like the machine. Sasa sas right, ell yellows. 10 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, friends, Yeah, listen. I can't pick my head this 11 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 3: entire Okay, I've got I had the mcguy with this 12 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 3: together to keep my headphones together this morning, but I 13 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 3: cannot move my head or else it'll fall apart completely. 14 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: So okay. And last but not least, making the magic happen. 15 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: It's GD Hello, there is and here we are. You 16 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: couldn't go grab some new headphones this morning, Lee, just. 17 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 3: Just was the shot wasn't open near my house. 18 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: You could have gotten to Target about eight o'clock in 19 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: the morning if. 20 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 3: You wanted to. 21 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: Best by open. It's pretty late. I will say best 22 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: by late opener. Target definitely open. Walmart definitely opened. Walgreens 23 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: can't get them there, But yeah, you had options. Yeah, 24 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: I go one. 25 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 3: I figured it out. You know that night that work. 26 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: Will you have new headphones by Monday morning? 27 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 3: I would say eighty percent? 28 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, I will. 29 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: Yes. I can't guarantee it though, No, no, you can't. Okay, 30 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: I shout it to the stream team. Joining us live 31 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: right now on YouTube, Continue to like, comment, and subscribe 32 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: to No Dunks on YouTube and much loft. Everybody who 33 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: joined us last night for the NBA Happy Hour. Hats 34 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: fun hanging out during the second half of the Celtics 35 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: Nets game, which we'll get to in a second. Keep 36 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: your questions in your comments coming for the next Beach 37 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: Stepping podcast next week. We haven't stepped in the beach 38 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: in a while, so email your questions into No Dunks 39 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: at the Athletic dot com and immaculate items always available 40 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: at No dunks dot com. We got the hoodies and 41 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: the T shirts and the shorts and hats and stuff 42 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: like that. Maybe we'll have to work on some new 43 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: headphones add them to the store. 44 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, there we go. 45 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so we're gonna get to last night's games. 46 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: We got worse of the week we've got, you know, 47 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: tweeted night. We got a bunch of stuff here on 48 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: the drop, as we always do. But I want to start, 49 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: guys with some big news from this week. The Nate 50 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: Smith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame as it goes by, 51 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:45,559 Speaker 1: announced this week nine players and five coaches as finalists 52 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: to be considered for election in twenty twenty one. This 53 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: year's list includes, among others, some WNBA stars and coaches, 54 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: but just the players. The NBA players we're looking at 55 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: right here. Two time NBA champ, eleven time All Star 56 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: Chris Bosh. You got five time NBA Champion defensive as 57 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: Michael Cooper. You got NBA Finals MVP and ten time 58 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: All Star Paul Pierce. You got five time All Star 59 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: Tim Hardaway. You've got an iconic legend of the college game, 60 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: and then a pretty damn good NBA player too. I 61 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: believe five time All Star. Maybe this was a three. 62 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: Marquise Johnson got four time Defensive Player Theyear Ben Wallace 63 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: and five time NBA All Star Chris Weber. So those 64 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: ose it again, the NBA players up for the possibility 65 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: of being in trine. I think sometimes people see this list, guys, 66 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:31,839 Speaker 1: and they go oh, they're in the Hall of Fame. 67 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: It's weird and oddly right, but it's like, no, they're 68 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: just they made it to the final stage as a finalist. 69 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: The change the wording, I. 70 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: Sort of hate it too. But we'll go through these, 71 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: you know, sort of one by one, and let's just 72 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: start with Chris Bosh task and you can get it started. 73 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: Is he an absolute lock for the Hall of Fame 74 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: this year because it's his second year on the ballot. 75 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: He obviously didn't get in last year. What do you think. 76 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: Chris Bosh is a Hall of Famer. He's gotta make 77 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: it this year and this one. It kind of kind 78 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: of hits me right in the heart, you know, being 79 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: a Raptors fan being there since day one is one 80 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: of these guys that I was up close and personal 81 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: watching him from day one. I'm not sure if I 82 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: had tickets to Game one for him, but I was 83 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: there and he was a scrawny kid that obviously was 84 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: incredible offensively. He could take anybody off the bounce, even 85 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 2: if he was, you know, six ten and six eleven. 86 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: He was quicker than other people. He got bigger, his 87 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: offensive game was polished. He was a twenty ten guy, 88 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: the defense was a question mark and then he became 89 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: an incredible defensive player that was able to be the 90 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 2: key center on a championship team with the Miami Heat. 91 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: And I bring the Heat up because Eudonnas has him 92 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: this week said, you know, when this announcement was made, everybody, 93 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: he said, everybody mentions Lebron and Dwayne Wade when they 94 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: talk about the Miami Heat championships first, and then Chris 95 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: Bosh is third. But everybody in the locker room knows, 96 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 2: according to Donna's has him, that Chris Bosh was the 97 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: key to that team. Now, obviously I don't they don't 98 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: win it with Lebron in Wade, but there's one of 99 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 2: Bosh being, you know, a big who was able to 100 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: help out defensively, and there's you know, a couple of 101 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: Lebron in Wade. So I understand where Udonis Haslem is 102 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: going with. But he was great on both ends. He 103 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 2: took a back seat offensively to those guys, And I 104 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 2: mentioned the defensive side of the ball because he was 105 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 2: great offensively, then he became everything he could be defensively. 106 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: So I kind of find it hard to believe that 107 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: he wouldn't get in. It just it just doesn't really 108 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: make sense to me. He was a perfect player on 109 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: a championship team, as you know, a slight complimentary guy. 110 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: But don't you want the top two or three guys 111 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 2: on a championship team in the Hall of Fame. I mean, 112 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 2: it only makes sense. I guess the argument against him 113 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: is his career was too short. I mean's but that's 114 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: a little crazy to me. There's lots of guys with 115 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 2: lesser accomplishments and shorter careers than Chris Bosh. And Chris Bosh, 116 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 2: you know, he didn't. He didn't fall out of the 117 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: league because he got fat or anything. I mean, he 118 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: had a life threatening disease so he had to stop 119 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: playing the game. He became Chris Bosh, like Ah Bosh 120 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 2: deserves to be standing making a speech up there. I 121 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: think he became the perfect basketball player for what he was. 122 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 2: Everybody asked, get bigger, get better defensively. Chris Bosch answered 123 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 2: all that, and he was awesome offensively. So I'm not 124 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 2: sure why he wouldn't get in, and I'm not sure 125 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 2: why he wasn't in last year. 126 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: I think the only reason he probably doesn't make it 127 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: last year is because the Hall of Fame just wanted 128 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: to keep it sort of iconic, I guess is the 129 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: best way to put it. With the three NBA players 130 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: that were inducted right in Garnet, Duncan, and Kobe, So 131 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: they for whatever reason, thought, you know, is bosh on 132 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: that level. No, I think we would all agree with that. 133 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: So they're like, Okay, let's just leave it there and 134 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: push them back a year. I'm with you, I think 135 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: he gets in this year. 136 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 2: That's so that's weird to me. What a class has 137 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: to be a certain kind of class, Like why he 138 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 2: can think there's. 139 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: A whole lot of things weird about the Yeah, so yeah, 140 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't surprise me if they thought that way. But 141 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: I'm with you, Like, he's like nearly he's really close 142 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: to like a twenty point per game score over his career, 143 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: which is pretty damn impressive. I think the one thing 144 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: that maybe people look at him lee and go and 145 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: it actually always shocks me because he's eleven time All Star, 146 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: that he only mean one All NBA team. It's just 147 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: it's just weird in a weird way. But I don't 148 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: think that'll ultimately keep him out of the whole fam 149 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: What do you think, Yeah. 150 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 3: Outside of the eleven All Star appearances, he really doesn't 151 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 3: have any individual accolades there apart from that one second 152 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 3: team back in two thousand and seven, like never Defensive 153 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 3: Player of the Year obviously, never really close to MVP 154 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 3: either or anything like that. Does that count against him? 155 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: Perhaps it does, because I think he is looked at 156 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 3: as the third wheel of those Heat Championships. But to me, 157 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 3: I believe he does belong in the Hall of Fame. 158 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 3: I think he had a fantastic career for what he 159 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 3: for what he played, and it was cut short, so 160 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 3: he missed out on a couple of years there to 161 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: sort of pat his numbers to get him in there. 162 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 3: But overall, I think he's done enough to get in. 163 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 3: And I think, you know, if you do watch those 164 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 3: those Heat Championships, do they win them without Chris Bosh? Perhaps? 165 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: Oh, oh, you think? 166 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe, I mean it's hard to know exactly. 167 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 3: But when he did come back against the Celtics in 168 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 3: that I think it was that first championship season he 169 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 3: was really good because he missed a lot of the 170 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 3: playoffs then, so I think he gets in. I can 171 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 3: see a case for him not being in, but I 172 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: really don't think it's a strong case. I think he's 173 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 3: got a much stronger case of being in the Hall 174 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 3: of Fame, and I do ultimately think he gets in. 175 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 3: I guess yeah this year. I suppose. I mean, who 176 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: knows they can come back. Of course, like Weber and 177 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 3: Tim Hardaway, you do have a couple of other cracks 178 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: at it, but I think he probably gets in. 179 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: Trey, what do you think. 180 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 4: I think y'all nailed it. Chris Bosh is an easy 181 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 4: Hall of Famer, eleven time All Star that gets you 182 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 4: in right there. I think Basketball Reference has his probability 183 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 4: at ninety nine percent. Skeets, I think you nailed it too. 184 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 4: The only reason he's not in already is because he 185 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 4: came up for enshrinement last year with Kobe, Tim Duncan 186 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 4: and Kevin Garnett. I think that as Chris Bosh and 187 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 4: Paul Pierce, we're going to get to in just the 188 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 4: second here are probably the two biggest names on the 189 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 4: All Star ballot this year. So I think he's an 190 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 4: easy choice this season. And it's crazy to think that, 191 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 4: like Tassa is saying when his career started, we're like, 192 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 4: get in the post, Chris Bosh, play some defense, Chris Bosh. 193 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 4: As it turned out, playing on the perimeter and being 194 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 4: a defender who can switch amongst all positions is exactly 195 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 4: what NBA big men should have been doing. Chris Bosh. 196 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 4: Despite being an eleven time All Star and having a 197 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame quality career, he would probably be even 198 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 4: better if he were able to be playing today if 199 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 4: his career started in twenty thirteen as compared to two thousand. 200 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 4: Was he two thousand and three draft? 201 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: What draft? 202 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? 203 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, So if he were able to if he were 204 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 4: able to start ten years later, he would probably be 205 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 4: a first ballot Hall of Famer easily, because you know, 206 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 4: he's the exact exactly what you wanted from a big 207 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 4: man in today's NBA. He was just doing it ten 208 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 4: years ahead of time. 209 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: And as our friend Irwin points out, I'll show it 210 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: here for everyone on the stream team, he should get 211 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: in for just being an All star, shooting star, sledging alone. 212 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: Chris Bosh. Yeah, I mean, he was like iconic in 213 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: the event, So put him in there. Okay, we all 214 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: think he's in, and he will ultimately get picked as 215 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: one of the official you know in Chinese into the 216 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame soon coming up here. But let's hear 217 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: from you guys with all of these, with all of these, 218 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: because I know that some people will say, nah, he 219 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: doesn't you know, like you're saying, like the you know, 220 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: he's the third banana on a great team. You know, 221 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: he's in the East, Like are his numbers like that? Impressive? 222 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: People will do that, But I think you're a little 223 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: crazy not to have him in there. Okay, next one 224 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: is Paul Pierce Lee you get us started with this one? 225 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: Is Paul Pierce a Hall of Fame lock here in 226 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: his first go at it? 227 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 3: Unfortunately he is? 228 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 2: Yes, unfortunately. Yeah. 229 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 3: Look, I will just have a little disclaim. Not a 230 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: big Paul Piece fan, but I respect what he did 231 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: for the Celtics and for the game because he won 232 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: a championship ultimately with Boston and he was the finals 233 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 3: MVP that season as well, which I think does carry 234 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 3: some weight. Now we only got the one championship there, 235 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 3: but he was a four time All NBA player, ten 236 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 3: time All Star, and as I mentioned the thing, but 237 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 3: he also twenty six thousand points, so he's getting in 238 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 3: alone on that, you know. But Paul Pierce. You know, 239 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 3: I think he's one of those guys that he was 240 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 3: a bit controversial. Some people didn't like him, like me, 241 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 3: But I do absolutely respect his ability to continue to 242 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 3: perform at a high level for so long, and of 243 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 3: course he killed the Raptors a couple of times, he 244 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 3: had some big playoff moments. But yeah, he has the accolades, 245 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 3: and I really can't see a case for why he 246 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 3: wouldn't get in. You know, is it this season? I mean, sure, 247 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 3: maybe maybe not, but I think he does ultimately get in. 248 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 3: He had a very very good long career and getting 249 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 3: that championship in that finals MVP. If he didn't have those, 250 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,599 Speaker 3: he probably still gets in any way, simply because of 251 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 3: the points and the All NBA and the NBA All 252 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 3: Star accolades as well. But that really makes it hard 253 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 3: to keep him out, So he deserves it. Even if 254 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 3: he's not my favorite player of all time, he's in 255 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 3: for sure. 256 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: Task do you agree? 257 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree on our accounts. I guess the 258 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 2: only reason why he wouldn't get in is because he's 259 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: some people's not favorite player, because he's down on some 260 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 2: people's list. But yeah, all the accolades are there. I 261 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: guess the question everyone brings up because he had such 262 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,239 Speaker 2: a long run of not going deep into the playoffs 263 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: before Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen got there. Everyone questions, well, 264 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 2: if those other guys aren't there, he doesn't win the 265 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 2: championship and maybe he's just not that good. Well, like 266 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 2: Tracy McGrady didn't get anywhere close either, but he was 267 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: a great player. He's in the Hall of Fame. Paul 268 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: Pierce did a lot more than Tracey McGrady did in 269 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: terms of long jevity, in terms of points scored, So 270 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: you know, I kind of liken it to that because 271 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: everybody out there just wants to bring Paul Pierce down, 272 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 2: you know, and twenty six thousand points. 273 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 3: He makes it easy. Though it doesn't he makes it 274 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 3: easy to. 275 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 2: Not like him. And I mean his post playing career 276 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 2: on the on the desk has nothing to do with 277 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 2: what he did on the on the floor. If you 278 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: don't like his his style with the shades on ESPN's desk. 279 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 3: I mean, I just mean in general, just like he 280 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 3: because he wanted out of Boston, he said trade me, 281 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 3: and then instead Danny Ainge got Kevin Garnett in rayl 282 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 3: and then he said, oh, Celtic foral, you know, kissing 283 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 3: the leprecha on on the center court. 284 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I know, it's upset. Michael Jordan was 285 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 4: almost a nick. 286 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. I'm just saying though, like those are 287 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 3: the sorts of things that I you know, that annoyed 288 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 3: me about him is how he was like, I'm done, 289 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 3: I'm out of Boston and then he's like, no, a 290 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 3: Celtic for life. And then he ends up on the 291 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 3: Wizards and the Nets and the Clippers in the end. Anyway, 292 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 3: but again that that's just a personal feeling towards the guy. 293 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 3: I respect his basketball game and the accolades and the achievements. 294 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 3: I mean, there's no question and what you talking about 295 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: there tasks, you know, like not really going too far 296 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 3: in the place before those other guys came along. Certainly 297 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 3: by winning that Finals MVP sort of makes up for 298 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 3: the rest of that if you ask me. You know, 299 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 3: Dirk only won the one championship and he got Finals MVP. 300 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 3: You know, similar sort of career and in ways. But 301 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 3: once you get that and you have that sort of validation, 302 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 3: not that you necessarily need it, I think it's it's 303 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,599 Speaker 3: hard to keep a guy like that out of the 304 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. 305 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: Trey, you're agreeing, I think with Pop Heerce being a 306 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: first ballot, I guess. 307 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 4: Oh, no doubt. I think this is a super easy choice. 308 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 4: I think that if you take away the finals MVP 309 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 4: and the championship, he's an easy Hall of Famer. But 310 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 4: the fact that he has a championship and he has 311 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 4: it with the Celtics and he was the finals MVP, 312 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 4: he's the biggest lock in this class. To me, he's 313 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 4: going to be the guy giving the last speech of 314 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 4: the night because Paul Pierce is one of the greatest 315 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 4: players in history for one of the most famous franchises 316 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 4: in history, the Boston media Mafia is going to be 317 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 4: backing in hardcore here, and he's an easy Hall of Famer. 318 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 4: You win a finals MVP, you're pretty much going to 319 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 4: be getting in. I think the Celtics are the only 320 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 4: team that has a finals MVP that's not a Hall 321 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 4: of Famer, right, Cedric Maxwell, If I'm not mistaking, yeah, 322 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 4: that's right. But I mean Paul Pierce is this is 323 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 4: an easy Hall of Fame choice here, and he played 324 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 4: it pretty smart by sticking around a little bit longer. 325 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 4: He played that last season with the Clippers. Remember he 326 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 4: got his jersey retired there by the Celtics. That was 327 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 4: a big That was a big deal at the time. 328 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 4: But he's stuck around for another year when he wasn't 329 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 4: doing a whole bunch there for the Clippers. But now 330 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 4: he gets to be the head of the class. Smart thinking. 331 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he still ranks top ten and free 332 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: throws made and three pointers made, which is pretty well. 333 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: But I guess, yeah, you get to twenty six thousand points, 334 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: you got to get him every different way. He's top 335 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: twenty all time in scoring, and he played for nearly 336 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: two decades, which is pretty credible. Okay, so we for 337 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: the most part agreed, Yeah, Bosh is in here in 338 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: his second go at. It sounds like Paul Pierce. We 339 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: all agree. As a first ballot Hall of Famer, traceays 340 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: will be the last speech of the night. Hadn't thought 341 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: about that, but I think you're probably right with that one. 342 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: But this one is where it gets a little interesting, 343 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: and Trey will start with you. Is this the year 344 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: Chris Webber finally makes the Hall of Fame. I don't 345 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: know how many times we've maybe had this discussion. It's 346 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: got to be at least three, right, maybe Mooreeah, But 347 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: what do you think, does Sea web finally get in 348 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: or does he not deserve to be in the Hall of Fame? 349 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: What do you think? 350 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 4: I've always thought Chris Weber was going to be a 351 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 4: Hall of Famer, and I'm surprised he's not already in. 352 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 4: But maybe with the names that are in this class 353 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 4: alongside Chris, this has got to be the year for him, 354 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 4: because I mean, when you're talking about the anals of 355 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 4: basketball history, you got Chris Webber up there, I think 356 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 4: with Chris Bosh and Paul Pierce. You know, Chris Webber 357 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 4: probably most famous still for his time playing with the 358 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 4: Michigan Wolverines, part of the Fab Five. Really changed the 359 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 4: culture of basketball, and that, to me is a part 360 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 4: of the reason why he has to be in. But 361 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 4: it's always going to be close with Chris Webber because 362 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 4: he missed a bunch of time during his NBA career, 363 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 4: which keeps him from getting to twenty thousand points, keeps 364 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 4: him to get from getting to ten thousand rebounds, sort 365 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 4: of benchmarks that really get you into the Hall of 366 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 4: Fame pretty easily. Because for accomplishments wise, he was five 367 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 4: times All NBA, five times All Star, which are great. 368 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 4: That's a very good career. But there are a lot 369 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 4: of players, as we've discussed recently with Sean Kemp, Omari Staudemeyer, 370 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 4: Blake Griffin in the future, who have made five All 371 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 4: NBA teams, five All Star games and are not in 372 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 4: the NBA or not in the Nasmath Hall of Fame 373 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 4: right now. But still, Chris Webber is top one hundred 374 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 4: points per game for his career, top one hundred rebounds 375 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 4: per game all time. It's just the fact that he 376 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 4: missed quite a few games in his career that he 377 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 4: wasn't able to get to those round numbers that were 378 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 4: used to for me. Chris Webber, no doubt a Hall 379 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 4: of Famer, But when you look at the counting stats, 380 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 4: when you look at the career achievements, you can see 381 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 4: why Basketball Reference their probability has him met like fifteen percent, 382 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 4: which I think is crazy low, but I feel like 383 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 4: that probably just only takes into account his NBA career 384 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 4: and his statistics, but still I would think it's higher. 385 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 4: Everybody loved Chris Webber when he was playing. There was 386 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 4: certainly a feeling at some times that he left a 387 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 4: little bit on the table, which maybe leaves a sour 388 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 4: taste in some voters' mouths. But I'm a Chris Webber 389 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame believer. Maybe this is the year. 390 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right. I think some of the 391 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: voters we still don't even really know who ultimately decides 392 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: these things. It's like just these mysterious people out there, 393 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: but that they might hold over Chris Webber the fact that, 394 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: like because of the talent that he had, they're upset 395 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: that he's like not a top ten player of all time. 396 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: Sure because his career did not you know, pan out 397 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: that way. It was still an unbelievable career, especially yeah, 398 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: when you're going back to the college game. But maybe 399 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: they are task maybe there is something to that that 400 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: that's why they've sort of kept him out ultimately. I guess, 401 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: you know, he rubbed a lot of people the wrong 402 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: way too over his career, so you know, maybe some 403 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: reporters and organizations and maybe that's another issue. But I mean, 404 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: just pure talent alone, he feels, and with the individual accolades, yeah, 405 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: there's no ring, but he sure is sort of right 406 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: there with a Chris blosh. To me, I mean like 407 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: he was playing in a time too where we're talking 408 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: like about some of the greatest players ever at the 409 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: position in the Western Conference and he's still making All 410 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: NBA squads and stuff like that. That's pretty special in 411 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: my book. So I think he's in. I think you've 412 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: talked about him being in before and I can't imagine 413 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:39,719 Speaker 1: you changed your tune on that. 414 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 2: No, my tune just gets stronger as I get older. Yeah, 415 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 2: he played with a lot of great players, up against 416 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 2: a lot of great players, and he's probably, you know, 417 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: not on the level of some of those guys he 418 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 2: went up against in the Duncans and the Shacks, but 419 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: that doesn't mean he's any worse. He just doesn't have 420 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: those accolades. And yeah, he I'm sure people just look 421 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 2: at him and see and some see all this talent. 422 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: He could have been frankly one of the best power 423 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 2: forwards ever and didn't get to that level. But to me, 424 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 2: it's a little bit of the Allen Iverson effect. He 425 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: had such a cultural impact, just like AI with those 426 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 2: Michigan teams, and then he had a really, really, really 427 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: good NBA career and you know, the whole Lakers situation 428 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 2: there with the you know, the conference finals and the 429 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 2: Kings and maybe the timeout or probably the two things 430 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 2: in terms of actual basketball things that people remember him by, 431 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 2: which obviously isn't a good sign for Seaweb. But the 432 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 2: guy has all the talent oozing from his body. But 433 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 2: that doesn't just that doesn't get you into the Hall 434 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 2: of Fame. What gets him into the Hall of Fame 435 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 2: are the accolades, the cultural relevance, and how he was 436 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 2: a badass. I mean, I loved watching him play, so 437 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 2: I understand that he's not, like you said, Skeets, you know, 438 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 2: throw him into the Chris Bosh family. I guess the 439 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 2: players of that aren't like super duper duper stars that 440 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: took over the league. But the cultural relevance, to me, 441 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: puts him over the top. There just aren't a lot 442 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 2: of guys who have that in the league. And if 443 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 2: you're a great, great player and you had this cultural relevance, 444 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 2: you know, our friend Gred Gordian brought it up recently 445 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: that you can't tell the story of basketball without the 446 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 2: Michigan Wolverines, the Fab Five, and that's part of it. 447 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 2: As part of basketball history, it's not just stats. It 448 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 2: is story time, and story time when you're talking about 449 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 2: basketball in the early nineties are the Michigan Wolverines and 450 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 2: the Fab five and Chris Webber was the lead guy 451 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 2: on that team and then he had a great, great career. 452 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 2: Get him in there. 453 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a great Twitter thread Twitter thread from 454 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: our friend Greden Gordian one hundred percent agreed with it too. 455 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: Like at one point he's talking about like if you're 456 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: walking through the Hall of Fame with your kid and 457 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: you got to Weber's plaque, would your first thought be, well, 458 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: he shouldn't be here. No, I mean no, of course, 459 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: not like you said, you would be talking about the 460 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 1: Fab five, with the talent that he had at his position, 461 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: sort of ahead of the game, a little bite where 462 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: he came up short in moments and stuff like that. 463 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: Like he does help get across the story of the 464 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: NBA and basketball in general. He needs to be included 465 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 1: in that conversation. If that's how you want to look 466 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: at the Hall of Fame. It doesn't just have to 467 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: be stats. Though some people think the Basketball Hall of Fame, 468 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: you know, is too generous with who they allow in 469 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 1: there and that's sure. That's an argument maybe for another day. 470 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: But I think, you know, I think lee that he 471 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: should be included. I don't know where you fall on 472 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: this one. You know, does if he wins a title 473 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: in two thousand and two the Kings, then is this 474 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: is probably a lock right easy? But he doesn't have that. 475 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: So do you put him in or it you keep 476 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: him out? 477 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think so. And as Trey mentioned there, he 478 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 3: has like his averages are basically twenty and ten, but 479 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 3: he doesn't have those round twenty thousand points and ten 480 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 3: thousand rebounds, which would also just boost him in there. 481 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 3: But I think he gets in. I mean, I think 482 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 3: he's a better player than Chris Bosh was at his best, 483 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 3: you know, right, So in that sense, Weber deserves to 484 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 3: be in. But I think certainly things that do count 485 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 3: against him at the scandal there at Michigan. I think, 486 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 3: for whatever reason, people are holding that against him when 487 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 3: they shouldn't because it's not like he was the only 488 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 3: person who had any sort of controversy during his college 489 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 3: career and then he went out there and performed. But yeah, 490 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 3: if Ladi doesn't hit that ball out or of Robert 491 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 3: Urie misses that shot and the Lakers lose that series, 492 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 3: I think, because I think the Kings win that championship 493 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 3: if they're going up against the Nets. It was in 494 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,719 Speaker 3: two thousand and two, and Weber's probably finals MVP as well, 495 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 3: so he's probably exactly where we are with Paul Pierce 496 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 3: and Dirk and those guys. He gets that championship, even 497 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 3: if his career didn't quite get to where we thought 498 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 3: his talent was going to take him, like you said earlier, 499 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 3: maybe top ten, top fifteen of all time. But if 500 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 3: you have that sort of championship glory, very very hard 501 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 3: to keep him out, but he doesn't. So I think 502 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 3: that's also potentially some of the reason. A little hard 503 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 3: to figure out though, because at his best, you know, 504 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 3: an incredible passer for a big man, he could spread 505 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 3: the flora a little bit there, you know, just an 506 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 3: incredible talent, but has a couple of things that people, 507 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 3: I guess are able to sort of hold against him, 508 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 3: which is unfair really. 509 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: All right, and let's get to the four remaining NBA 510 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: players that are the Hall of Fame finalists and which 511 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: one of these guys will get enshrined here, So I'll 512 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: just run through them. Again, we got Michael Cooper, former 513 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year. He made eight All Defensive teams, 514 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: won five championships as a member of the Lakers. Obviously 515 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: played on a great team. Now, his career averages are 516 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: not going to blow you away, because he was a 517 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: defensive eightce really nine points per game, you know, four 518 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 1: and three. And we had Tim Hardaway, member of run 519 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: TMC the Warriors, top twenty all time and assists still 520 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: in NBA history, five time All Star, five time All NBA. 521 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: That actually surprised me a little bit. Career averages of 522 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: eighteen and eight. Won a gold medal in two thousand. 523 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: Marquise Johnson won two national championships at UCLA. He was 524 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: one of the best collegiate players of his time there, 525 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,959 Speaker 1: went on to make five All Star teams with the Bucks. 526 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: A bit of a forgotten star, I think, I mean, 527 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: like Lee, maybe you can remember Marquise Johnson a little 528 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: bit better than maybe even some of us being a 529 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: bit older. Yeah, but again he's got the accolades. Averaged 530 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: over twenty points per game over his career two He 531 00:23:58,359 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: was named the Comeback Player of the Year in eighty 532 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: six and then Ben Wallace one of only two players 533 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: to win the NBA's Defensive Player of the Award four times, 534 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: along with the Kenny Mtumbo, who is obviously in the 535 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, and he would be the first member 536 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: of the four Pistons to be selected four time All Star, 537 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: five time All NBA of those four, like, look, let's 538 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,239 Speaker 1: be honest, not all seven guys we've talked about here 539 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: are going to be making at least this class. I 540 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: don't know when they're gonna cut it off. I don't 541 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: know if they have a quota task, like if they're like, 542 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: well it's got to be three, but not more than five. 543 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: I don't know. But let's say only one more of 544 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: those these guys, these last four I selected could make it, Lee, 545 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: who would you pick if we are agreeing, Chris bosh 546 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: is in, Paul Pierce's in, and Chris Webber finally makes it. 547 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: Of these four, Coop you know, Tim Hardaway, Markis Johnson, 548 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: and then Ben Wallace, who would you include me? 549 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 3: I'm going with I think they've all got a solid case. 550 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 3: I'm going with Ben Wallace, Thuge. I think Ben Wallace 551 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 3: was an incredible player and the defensive stats alone there 552 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 3: full time defensive player of the four time All Star, 553 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 3: five time All NBA, five time All Defense, so you know, 554 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 3: traditionally defensive guys obviously, like Ben Wallace's career average is 555 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 3: like five points a game, you know, so he's not 556 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 3: going to get in there for his points. But he 557 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 3: had about six seasons there where I think he was 558 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 3: just an incredible, incredible player for the Pistons. His career 559 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 3: did sort of tail off a little bit after his 560 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,959 Speaker 3: second season in Chicago when he wasn't allowed to wear 561 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 3: a head band, got his scars said no wearing a headband. 562 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 3: But for those like JB doesn't want you wearing ahead. 563 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 3: It's got five or six seasons there with the Pistons 564 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 3: and the first one with Chicago, he average eight points, 565 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 3: thirteen rebounds, as steel and a half a game, three 566 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: blocks a game, you know. And again I think on 567 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 3: those Pistons teams with only won one championship, made the 568 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 3: finals the second time, I think he was easily as 569 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 3: important as any other player, you know, with Rip Hamilton, 570 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 3: Rashid obviously when he came along, Jaunty Builds won finals, 571 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 3: MVP when they won it. But I'm a huge Ben 572 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 3: Wallace fan, and I think he absolutely deserves to get in, 573 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 3: even if his Pig years were only about you know, 574 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 3: six or seven seasons there. But I think he did 575 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 3: enough in those years to get himself in. I mean, clearly, 576 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 3: the defensive Player of the Year awards I think should 577 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 3: get him in there alone four times. So you know, 578 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 3: other guys have certainly strong cases, but I'd pick Ben Wallace. 579 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 3: I'd like to see the defensive player get the recognition. 580 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: Tass, what do you think? 581 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with Lee on this one, And I think 582 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 2: Dennis Rodman blazed enough of a trail getting into the 583 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame for Ben Wallace to follow him, not 584 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: just the rebounding trail, but just more like the one 585 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: track type of guy. Rodman rebounded Ben Wallas defense offensively. 586 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 2: That was not his fortepe whatsoever. But yeah, you know, 587 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 2: if you look at that twenty four team, billups is Key, 588 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 2: Rip is Key and sheet is Key at Tayshaw Prince 589 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 2: is Key. But there's no chance that they come anywhere 590 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: close to a championship without the defense of Ben Wallace, 591 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: without the Tennats. 592 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: Such an identity for that team. 593 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and they all were part of it, no doubt, 594 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: And they didn't have a superstar. So when I say 595 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 2: this guy, they don't win. To this guy, they don't 596 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 2: win this guy, they needed all of them because that was, 597 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 2: you know, a special special case in the NBA. I 598 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 2: think we've talked about it before. It should be one 599 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: team that gets in as a team if they start 600 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 2: a wing. I mean to me, that's you know, one 601 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: of the best teams ever because they didn't have a 602 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 2: superstar and we're able to achieve what they achieved. So 603 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 2: big Ben amongst those four, you know, well, I want 604 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: to show some love to other guys too, but yeah, 605 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: amongst those four, he would be the guy who stands 606 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 2: up to me. 607 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: Do you agree, Tray or do you pick someone else? 608 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: If you had to just pick one of the four? 609 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 4: Well, unfortunately, Skeets, I also agree because I love defense 610 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 4: and rebounding, so you got to get Ben Wallace in there. 611 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 4: But for me, he was the best player on a 612 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 4: championship team who took down a couple of legends Shaq 613 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 4: and Kobe in their prime. So that's an easy choice 614 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 4: to me. The other guys, Michael Cooper, I think has 615 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 4: kind of a similar case to Ben Wallace. The problem 616 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 4: with him is that he has been on the ballot 617 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 4: clearly for a long time, so I think it gets 618 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 4: harder and harder as the time goes on. Marquise Johnson, 619 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 4: I'm kind of surprised, isn't in considering he had such 620 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 4: a great college career, a very good NBA career and 621 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 4: has continued to stick in the league as a broadcaster 622 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 4: there with the Bucks and Tim Hardaway a borderline case, 623 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 4: I'll say, a borderline case for Tim Hardaway, and you know, 624 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 4: maybe this is the year, but I kind of don't 625 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 4: think so. 626 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right there. I don't think he 627 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: makes it in this one for sure. I'm picking up 628 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 1: these four. I go Ben Wallace, Michael Cooper. I mean 629 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: I heard a lot of comparisons, like, well, Dennis Johnson 630 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 1: made the Hall of Fame obviously being sort of like 631 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: the defensive guy on those great Celtics teams. Cooper the 632 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: same thing with the Lakers. They both won a lot 633 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: of titles. Dennis Johnson still, though, is a better offensive 634 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: player than Cooper. I mean, he scored like almost I 635 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: think he may have scored twice as many points like 636 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: over their career and doubled them up there. So that 637 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: is something. But I get the idea, it's like they 638 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: were the defensive backbone of these championship teams and should 639 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: they be rewarded enough to the Hall of Fame level. 640 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: It's difficult because then you start also so just getting 641 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: into the you know, the classic Robert Rory question Lee 642 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Guys just won a bunch of 643 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: titles and were good, but they were not the best 644 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: of the best out there on the floor. But do 645 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: they deserve consideration of the Hall of Fame? It opens 646 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: up a whole can of worms. But of all those guys, 647 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm agreeing with you. I think I think Ben Wallace 648 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: would get my vote from those guys. But who else 649 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: did you want to show love to? There? Tasks? 650 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 2: Well, I was trying to bide my time here because 651 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: I didn't have the video prepared, so I was trying 652 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: to stall. But Markus Johnson, he had some a weggie, 653 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: a legendary weggie of some sort. And I've just because 654 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 2: I forget everything that I've ever done in my life. 655 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 2: And it didn't happen too long ago where Josiah Johnson, 656 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 2: the King of Twitter, was tweeting about Marcus Johnson's career 657 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 2: and trying to get him into the Hall of Fame 658 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 2: or showing everybody why he deserves to be in the 659 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. And one of the clips he shared 660 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 2: was Markus Johnson weggieing, I don't know, but I'm still 661 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,719 Speaker 2: can't find it, still looking. You know, Twitter is just 662 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 2: one of those things I do I search for or 663 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 2: doing my scrolling through tough infinite scroll here. That's where 664 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 2: I'm going right now. But I figured I figured Marcus 665 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 2: Johnson my best my best chance of finding it would 666 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 2: be scrolling his infinite his Twitter, because you know, he's older, 667 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: He's not going to tweet as much as just I'm 668 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 2: not going to tweet as much as me. I know 669 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 2: the three of us tweeted about it, but I still 670 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 2: I just suck at finding things on Twitter at times 671 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 2: and unable to find it. But he had some some 672 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 2: legendary Weggie was it? It wasn't the All Star Game one. Anyway. 673 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 2: I love him on the broadcast, I love his son, 674 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 2: and uh, you know, if he gets in, he gets in. 675 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 2: But you know, I find it hard to believe against 676 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 2: those other guys that he he is going to get in, 677 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 2: but maybe as a broadcast or maybe gets in as 678 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 2: a broadcast. 679 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: Jaz Well, that's the whole. Yeah, you got all these 680 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: different wings. You know, Bill Russell's up for you know 681 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: him in here again. I mean as a coach, that's 682 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: pretty cool. But someone I think, uh was it Jackie 683 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: McMullin or someone pointed out that, uh isn't Lenny Wilkins 684 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: in like three times in the Hall of Fame. He's 685 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: a player, coach and part of the dream team as 686 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: you're right, yeah, coach. So it's like it's a little silly, 687 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: I guess. But anyway, we'll see what happens. We'll be 688 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: announcing this soon. We still even haven't had the actual 689 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: formal enshrinment for those three legends that we were talking 690 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: about last year, beating Kobe and Garnet and Duncan. I 691 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: think that's coming up, so that will be, uh, of course, 692 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: pretty monumental. But a lot of people to put in. 693 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: Let's hear from all of you guys who should be 694 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. Make your case. Maybe there's 695 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: some diehard tim Hardaway fans out there. I know there's 696 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: some Cooper fans out there, so tell us why they 697 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: should be actual locks, and maybe it is all seven. 698 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: Just throw them all in. I mean, we're just gonna 699 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: be like this. Yeah, it's so inclusive now, I mean, 700 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: why not? I guess. Okay, last night's games, let's just 701 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: touch on a couple. There was a ton on for 702 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: a Thursday night. But Kyrie Irving scored forty as the 703 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: Nets beat the Celtics one twenty one, one oh nine. 704 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving, future Hall of Famer, tasks and lock it in? Yeah, 705 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: lock it in? What'd you think of this one? 706 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 2: Though? You know, a couple of years ago, even though 707 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 2: Kyrie hit that shot, wonder about Kyrie's Hall of Fame chances. 708 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 2: But now he's having the best season of his career, 709 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,719 Speaker 2: which is awesome to watch. I know you called him 710 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 2: the Nets MVP Skeets. I just watching him. It feels 711 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 2: like every SHOT's going in. He's shooting the best field 712 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: goal percentage of his career, best three point percentage of 713 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 2: his career. But to me, what I took from this 714 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 2: game is that I don't think the chemistry that they've 715 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 2: got going on is going to be interrupted by Blake 716 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 2: Griffin whatsoever. I just just feel like they've got enough 717 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 2: going on in a positive way. From Steve Nash down 718 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 2: to Kevin Durant, who I think is their real leader 719 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 2: and the real glue guy, which is strange to say 720 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 2: for Kevin Durant, but I totally think that's the case 721 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 2: all the way down, you know, to Kyrie, to James 722 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: Harden and even to Blake even though he hasn't hit 723 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 2: the floor. I'm just dreaming big dreams here. I think 724 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 2: that they're they're gonna get on the floor and just 725 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 2: work together. Well, that's what I took from this win 726 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 2: because I think they can just turn it on at 727 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 2: any time and it really, Uh, nobody has a chance 728 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 2: against this team in the Eastern Conference. I think they know. 729 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. 730 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: I agree. 731 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 2: I know I'm being I'm jumping to conclusions. There's lots 732 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 2: of good teams in the East, but I think they 733 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 2: are They're good enough, Like if they can just stay 734 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 2: on the same page, I think that's all it's about. 735 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 2: I just you know, we just talked about the Detroit 736 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 2: Pistons and the chemistry that they had. That's that's what 737 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 2: the question mark is with the Brooklyn Nets. Or there's 738 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 2: just too many good guys and not enough role guys. 739 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,959 Speaker 2: Like if Blake Griffin comes in and is that that 740 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 2: guy on the floor who you know doesn't do enough 741 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 2: of the little things and plays too much, and then 742 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 2: you know, you lose some some Bruce Brown minutes, some 743 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 2: Jeff Green minutes that could hurt. But I think they're 744 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 2: I don't know, they just the chemistry just feels like 745 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 2: it's there. It wasn't really much of a tangible thing 746 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 2: I took away from that game. But in the fourth quarter, 747 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 2: when they can go on those runs like they did, 748 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 2: they can overcome a lot of things, and I think 749 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 2: they'll they'll overcome any team in the Eastern I think 750 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 2: I think they've got enough, even though you know they 751 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,959 Speaker 2: got to go up against Joel Embiid. I just I believe. 752 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 2: I believe in what Steve Nash and what they're doing there. 753 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: Good vibes only coming from the Brooklyn Nets. Leatey Shammitt 754 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: was fantastic, hitting a bunch of threes for them too. 755 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, they. 756 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: Uh, it's pretty special when you got three guys that 757 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: can go for forty on any given nights, and then 758 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: you get all these help with all these shooters around there, Yeah, 759 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go through Embiad and Yannis likely 760 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: one of them at least but you know, we talked 761 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: about it the other day, like who cares if those 762 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: guys average forty in a series, Like you're still you're 763 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: still gotta go get another eighty from maybe the rest 764 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: of the team. With the amount of offensive firepower that 765 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: the Nets have, Yeah, look looking good right now. And 766 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: this is it's crazy that all of this is without 767 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: Durant and then of course Blake still to be added, 768 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: and oh yeah, maybe even another bio guy, Like they 769 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: may not even be done adding to this roster. So 770 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 1: what are you anything to add from that game? Though? 771 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you just mentioned that Jeff Green with two threes, 772 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 3: Tyler Jones with too, Shamitt hat six, and Joy Harris 773 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 3: he's a great shoot. He went three. So even if 774 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 3: Joel and b it is a handful for the Nets defensively, 775 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 3: it doesn't really matter if the sixers are just like, 776 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 3: oh my god, every guy who's on the floor can 777 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 3: hit a three pointer right now. That that's the real 778 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 3: problem things are facing, is that that offense for the 779 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 3: Nets is just so potent and so powerful. It's such 780 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 3: an arsenal that Steve Nash has, which is ironic because 781 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 3: he's a Tottenham fan and Arsenal is Tottenham's biggest rival. 782 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 2: Wow. 783 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 3: But that's the thing when you when you're when they're 784 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 3: on the floor, it's just like, oh my god, yeah shah, yeah, 785 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 3: he can hit that shot. And when he gets hot, 786 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 3: they sort of found him last night. James Harden had 787 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 3: a relatively quiet game by his standards last night, certainly shooting. 788 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 3: The boy's still finished with nearly a triple double. But 789 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 3: that's the thing. It's not like it's only Hardened and 790 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 3: Kyrie Irving that you have to worry about. They've They've 791 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 3: got the system and that team set up so well 792 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 3: that it's like, we are going to win these games 793 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 3: on offense. You know, we can play defensive, we have to, 794 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 3: but more importantly, the other teams have to stop so 795 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 3: many guys who are capable of shooting it. 796 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, the defense always been like basically average, which is 797 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: good enough Trey for the last little bit, and they 798 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: can continue to be like around fourteen to fifteen to 799 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. That's gonna win a ton 800 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: of games. They don't have to be the best defensive 801 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: team in the league. They just got to be passable, right. 802 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 4: They got to be not the worst because let's see 803 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 4: who said it here in the stream. Team Ziggy says 804 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 4: it'll be mostly them beating themselves if it happens, and 805 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 4: that's kind of what it feels like. Maybe they fall 806 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,720 Speaker 4: apart defensively. Maybe they have a game like the Rockets 807 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,919 Speaker 4: had years ago, where they just cannot hit a three 808 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 4: pointer because, like Lee saying, the threes are a huge difference. 809 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 4: They got great shooting from their role players last night, 810 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 4: and if that continues, you're talking three versus two when 811 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 4: it's against big guys, and that can be a problem 812 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 4: for a Sixers team trying to score as efficiently as 813 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 4: the Nets may be able to do. But yeah, I 814 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 4: mean the Nets when they're playing at their best, they 815 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 4: look great, and that's without their best player. So scary stuff. 816 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 4: The other stuff thing I did like from this game 817 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 4: I heard Greg Anthony on the call. He said, James 818 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 4: Harden is a special passer of the basketball. Oh god, 819 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 4: not quite a beautiful shooter of the basketball, but a 820 00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 4: special passer of the basketball. Get him some copy rights 821 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 4: on these things. Come out with something that gainst chance 822 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 4: just a little bit. 823 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 3: I know, I know, I don't know what to do. Man, 824 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 3: It's just if imitation is the highest form of flattery. 825 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 1: Is that right? 826 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 3: So I'll just take that as a compliment. But I 827 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,240 Speaker 3: would say one thing. The other thing about James Harden 828 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 3: since he's been in Brooklyn. One of the criticisms about him, 829 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 3: certainly from someone like me in the past, is how 830 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 3: he would go out hunting those fowls. And he doesn't 831 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 3: appear to be doing that at all anymore. He's playing 832 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 3: the right way as well, you know, which is by 833 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 3: my definition anyway, by playing the right way. You know, 834 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 3: Trey Young's going out their hunting of fowls. Players has 835 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 3: done it forever. But it just feels like he's, you know, 836 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 3: this transition has just been too perfect. What's going on? 837 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 3: I'm suspicious. I think there's a conspiracy out there. I 838 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 3: don't know, but like this last night, he like say, 839 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 3: he almost just got a triple double in his sleep, 840 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 3: didn't shoot all that well. But it's like, hang on 841 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 3: a minute, James, this is like, don't make it. Don't 842 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 3: make me do Like Trey, Trey started liking Chris Paul 843 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 3: and and Paul George. Wasn't it last season? Try well? 844 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 4: I started being nice about it. What's going on? 845 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 3: I'm starting to feel like you know, I'm going to 846 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 3: be out there, like, you know, wearing a James Hotten 847 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 3: t shirt around sometimes. 848 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me when you're on Team Rondo and then. 849 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 4: We'll get yeah, exactly right. 850 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: No, thanks, okay, our next game here, Oh this one hurts, sorry, Tess. 851 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: You know, maybe cover your ears here. Tony Snell's three 852 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: pointer at the buzzer cover my smell, yeah, lifts the 853 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: Hawks over the Raptors one twenty. Raptors was out a 854 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: lot of their key guys. Snow put up a fight though, 855 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: had a crazy big lead, and here come the Hawks 856 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: and Tony Snell t cat with a huge shot. I mean, 857 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 1: nice play. He moved from the corner up to the wing, 858 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 1: created a little space and I found him a little 859 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 1: Raptor's defensive breakdown maybe in terms of helping out a 860 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: little too much, but uh, Snell knocked it down. Game over, 861 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: Hawks win, Snelly Cat. What are they feeding you? 862 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 4: One of the most beautiful shooters of the basketball, right, 863 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 4: Tony Snell? That's crazy stuff what you said to us. 864 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 4: Since February first, he's sixty four percent from three. I 865 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,879 Speaker 4: think he's at fifty seven ish for the season. Trey 866 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,879 Speaker 4: Young said before the All Star break. When I passed 867 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 4: to Toomey shoots the ball, I think it's going in 868 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,320 Speaker 4: every time. It did last night. Great win for the Hawks. 869 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 4: Not a surprising loss for the Raptors considering the players 870 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 4: they had out, but the way it went down was 871 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 4: super surprising. Chris Bouche and one layup about six minutes 872 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 4: left puts the Raptors up fifteen. Matt Devlin on the call. 873 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 1: That may have done it me said me, good safe, Yeah. 874 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 4: I mean up fifteen. You're thinking yeah, But six minutes left, 875 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 4: there's a lot of time to happen. And for whatever reason, 876 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,359 Speaker 4: the Raptors just stopped scoring. Scored eight points in their 877 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 4: final twelve possessions over the last six minute. It's because 878 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 4: it's all falling on Kyle Lowry and Norm Powell. I 879 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 4: think Lowry went two of six, had three turnovers in 880 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 4: the fourth quarter. He had nine turnovers in the game. 881 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 4: Norm nice game, just two points in the fourth quarter. Meanwhile, 882 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 4: Trey Young was on fire. I thought he was great 883 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter getting in the lane and he 884 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 4: had eleven points, four assists. So on that final play 885 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 4: he gets the penetration. Looked like four Raptors were helping 886 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 4: Tony Snell wide open game blouses. Nice play by Trey Young, yep. 887 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 4: Raptors just kind of took their foot off the gas 888 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 4: there and the scoring got pretty tough for him. You know, 889 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,479 Speaker 4: Kyle Lowry a great player, but he has to create 890 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 4: shots for basically everybody. With the squad that the Raptors 891 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 4: had out there last night. Norm Powell can get his 892 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 4: own shots, not necessarily a playmaker for others. But the 893 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 4: way it went down was weird. It was certainly weird, 894 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 4: especially seeing it coming through on the stream team when 895 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 4: we were doing Happy Hour last night. You could tell things, 896 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 4: We're not going great. But I think it's more of 897 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 4: a great win for the Hawks than it is a 898 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,720 Speaker 4: super bad loss for the Raptors. 899 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: Hawks are still undefeated with Nate McMillan as their head coach, 900 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: are they not believe? I think that improves them to 901 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 1: three and zero. The other note from this was Kyle 902 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 1: Lowry past Chris bosh Hall of Famer, probably Chris Bosh 903 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: on second on the Raptors' scoring list, so he only 904 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: trails to Rosen. Now Lowry does anything else to add 905 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 1: to this one test floss? Obviously for the Reps, they 906 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: should have had it. They were up. I mean, Norm 907 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: had a great game. He missed two free throws that 908 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: probably ice it pretty late, but anything else. 909 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 2: That well, we're here in Atlanta. I want to believe 910 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 2: in the Hawks and they're three and oh run after 911 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 2: firing coach Pierce, but I'm not buying it. They come 912 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 2: down a game here with yeah, no Sakam, no Fred 913 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 2: van Vliet, excuse me, no o g and they play 914 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 2: good defense the last six minutes and the other team 915 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 2: falls apart. Same thing happened in their previous win. The 916 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 2: Magic didn't have three of their starters and the Magic 917 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 2: were up big and the Hawks were able to come 918 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 2: back and win that game. Still not buying it. And 919 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 2: then they you know, their best one was the first 920 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 2: one of the three. They're riding high. You always get 921 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 2: a little post coach firing high, and they beat a 922 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler lists Miami Heat team. So I'm not buying 923 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 2: it at this point. I want to, but I just 924 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 2: loved watching the first half of this game. Trey Young 925 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 2: got under Kyle Lowry's skin because he was he was 926 00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 2: trying to draw fouls exactly like you know the James 927 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 2: Harden talk. He was bumping into Kyle Lowry, and I 928 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 2: would never think of a guy like Kyle Lowry the 929 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 2: guy you piss off and then he just turns you 930 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 2: woke that, you woke him up. He poked the bear 931 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 2: and then he just beats you. You don't think of 932 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,280 Speaker 2: Kyle Lowry like that. But he was awesome and setting 933 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 2: everybody up afterwards. Wasn't the scoring, but he got passed, 934 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 2: he got real angry, and then he turned the game around. 935 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 2: And that's you know, it was a middling game. They 936 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 2: were kind of down and then yeah, they they went 937 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 2: up big because Kyle Lowry, the future Hall of Famer, 938 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 2: was able to turn this thing around. But yeah, I'm 939 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 2: not I can't take too much from it. When you 940 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 2: you come down to six minutes of a game, every 941 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 2: defense seems to be good. And the Hawks defense turned 942 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 2: it on at the end there and they were able 943 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 2: to shut down. Like like Tray said, Lowry and and 944 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 2: Norm Powell. But you know, if you had some weapons, 945 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 2: if you had Freddy, if you had Pasky. This is 946 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 2: this is a lossy for for the Hawks. I think 947 00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 2: that's pretty still. 948 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna care, right the Hawks. These are 949 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: big wins. Against those three teams. You just said that 950 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: they might be jockeying for some sort of like position 951 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 1: with or to get into the playoffs, to get in 952 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,799 Speaker 1: the play in who'd you say? You said? The Heat, 953 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 1: the Magic and the Raptors right, all could be bunched 954 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: up there. So they'll take the victories for sure. The 955 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 1: Hawks bros. Will final one here. 956 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 4: What do you think about my trade proposal there. 957 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,439 Speaker 1: Skeets, I haven't even seen it. Oh, the one auto porter? 958 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know Kyle Lowry is talking about I'll 959 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 4: retire a Raptor budd. He's giving hints that yes, I could, 960 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 4: perhaps I could perhaps be on another team here pretty soon. 961 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,800 Speaker 4: The Bulls, they're back, but they are not an elite 962 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 4: team at this point. They need a veteran there to 963 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 4: really to give them that little red ass get them 964 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 4: fired up. What about Kyle Lowry becoming the Chris Paul 965 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,320 Speaker 4: of the Chicago Bolts, taking a team on the fringes 966 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 4: and making them great auto porter for Kyle Lowry who. 967 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: Says no, no, I know, who says, I like it 968 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,320 Speaker 1: for your team? Yes, a great move. I think it 969 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,399 Speaker 1: would take a little bit more. Yeah, not a lot 970 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: of interest in. 971 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 4: Autoport, slideet pick slidejet picks round. You're talking number sixteen, baby, 972 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 4: that's always I thought you always had a number. What's 973 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 4: your pick? Usually seven or number seven? Bulls always draft seven. 974 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 4: Somehow got four this past year. But I mean, if 975 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 4: you had Kyle Lowry, that says guaranteed a playoff team guaranteed. 976 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 4: I don't think it's happening, but I'm trying to make 977 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 4: it happen. 978 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 2: Sam you No, no in the stream says Lowry for Lowry, 979 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 2: Kyle Lowry for Lowry, Markingen. 980 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 1: Wow, that's a nice interesting. Now that's a little more interesting. 981 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, because the Bulls may not want to sign him 982 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,879 Speaker 2: in the off season. He's restricted free agent. 983 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 1: Oh Lowry for would be a crazy in the headline 984 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 1: season salt trade. I would love it. 985 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm prouday. Can the Raps get Stacey King in 986 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 2: that deal too? I want a little Stacey on the Raps? 987 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 2: I did? I did want to mention just one random thing. 988 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 1: No, they'll get Truck Swirsky back in the you'd be 989 00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: doing radio. 990 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,360 Speaker 2: Matt Devlin on the call. Speaking of broadcasters, he shouted 991 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 2: out the Aaron Baines fan club Twitter account, throwing the broadcast. 992 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 2: I mean that Devlin going deep. I mean it's a 993 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 2: great Twitter account and I love it. Aaron Bain's having 994 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,839 Speaker 2: his best game of the season. He was just out 995 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 2: there bawling. But Devlin to go deep enough to go 996 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 2: into the Twitter sphere and to call it the Baines 997 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 2: fan Club, I love it. I love it. Devlin old 998 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 2: more of an old school broadcaster by keeping it new 999 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,280 Speaker 2: school good stuff. 1000 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 1: Maddie Durere, Matt Devlin in the broadcast. Everybody has a 1001 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 1: future Hall of Famer on Today Show, including this guy. 1002 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,800 Speaker 1: Devin Booker scored thirty five points. Suns beat the Blazers 1003 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 1: Ley on Suns, stay hot, man, they're rolling. They heard 1004 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 1: you talking crap on yesterday's show saying you don't believe 1005 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 1: in them. You believe in the Jazz, but you don't 1006 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 1: want to believe in the Suns. And this is a 1007 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 1: nice win, a really impressive win. Bridges was great. What 1008 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:52,919 Speaker 1: do you think? 1009 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, good comeback. That was down thirteen in the third 1010 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,840 Speaker 3: period there against a Damian Littlid team, which you I 1011 00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 3: would always back a little it sort of in that situation. 1012 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,319 Speaker 3: But Booker had twenty two in the second half and 1013 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,800 Speaker 3: he was really good. Again. They got other contributions from guys, 1014 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,799 Speaker 3: but Booker is the one that you want to see 1015 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 3: step up and sort of be the leader of his team, 1016 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 3: and they did and they got the comfortable victory in 1017 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 3: the end. I would love to see a playoff series 1018 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 3: though against these two teams. Still no CJ and still 1019 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 3: no Nurkic for the Blazers, which would make a huge difference. 1020 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 3: But that's the thing. I think when the Blazers are 1021 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,720 Speaker 3: at full strength against the Suns team, that's a very 1022 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 3: spicy matchup because you know, when you got Gary Trann 1023 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,439 Speaker 3: out there and Anthony Simon's and this see a little 1024 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 3: as well, like they're different players, and when you have 1025 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 3: someone like CJ who can go out there and get 1026 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 3: his own bucket, I think that changes a huge, huge 1027 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 3: dynamic there for the Blazers offense. So yeah, goodwin. Though 1028 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 3: for the Suns, they keep on rolling. They just keep 1029 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 3: on pocketing these wins, and that's all you have to do. 1030 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 3: When you're the Phoenix Suns. You've got to get as 1031 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 3: many as you can and hope to have home court 1032 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 3: advantage if you can for a minimum of two rounds 1033 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 3: in the playoffs. If you're going to go anywhere. 1034 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 1: Other games, Terry Rozier and a Chevy Cruise named PJ. 1035 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 1: Washington helped the Hornets down the Pistons one five, one 1036 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 1: on two. Michael Jordan in attendance, see the ball end 1037 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,440 Speaker 1: up in Jordan's hands. Didn't shoot it? Oh, I couldn't 1038 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:12,400 Speaker 1: believe it. Let it fly, imj from the side. There, Sixers, Bucks, Clippers. 1039 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 1: They all won in big blowouts. Kings handed the Rockets 1040 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 1: their fourteenth straight loss. The he beat the Magic, the 1041 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 1: Thunder outlasted the Luca and k p Lis MAVs. They 1042 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: were without their two guys. Sga was pretty special in 1043 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 1: that one. And maybe the most shocking outcome from Thursday Night. 1044 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 1: Jalen Nowell nol. I don't even know how to say 1045 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,360 Speaker 1: the kid's last name. I think he had himself a 1046 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 1: career night. How do you say it? 1047 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 2: Noel? 1048 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Noel? The Wolves. He plays with the Wolves. He 1049 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: was on fire and they beat the Pelicans by thirty tasks. 1050 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,239 Speaker 1: My goodness, that is not looking good in New Orleans 1051 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 1: when you're losing my thirty to the Wolves. Who got 1052 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 1: Chris Finch's finch a his first victory as a head coach, 1053 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: congrats to him, but that's wild. And from that game, 1054 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,879 Speaker 1: maybe most importantly, what'd you number thirty? 1055 00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 3: Guys? 1056 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:03,880 Speaker 1: All, my goodness, these things are still coming fast and furious. 1057 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 1: Let's have a quick look at it. You know, look, 1058 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: it's nothing special going on here. 1059 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,799 Speaker 2: It's only a quick look. Is a quick one? 1060 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it'd stayed up there for a bit. Oh, 1061 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 1: we got the IO shot that I thought got the 1062 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 1: ISO shot. So that was good. So there you go, 1063 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 1: number thirty, incredible twenty to goalie till our magical mark 1064 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,959 Speaker 1: of fifty and we are on pace for sixty four. 1065 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 1: This thing keeps ticking rate. 1066 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, how can we not get at least 1067 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 3: like fifty five no matter what happens? I mean, we 1068 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 3: got to set a record on me. 1069 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 4: You know. 1070 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,839 Speaker 3: We just just feels like every night now this one, yeah, and. 1071 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,239 Speaker 1: Then yeah, every second or third night, it feels like 1072 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 1: we're getting what that's the pace we want to keep up? 1073 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 1: Good stuff. The only other note from all those games 1074 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 1: that I took us through. There the PJ. Tucker news Again. 1075 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 1: The Rockets, I said, lost their fourteenth straight. He decided 1076 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 1: not to play on Thursday night. He's not expected to 1077 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 1: return to the team tests, and you know, by all reports, 1078 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 1: he's frustrated that he hasn't been moved yet to a 1079 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,839 Speaker 1: contender and that he's just made it clear like I'm 1080 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 1: just gonna sit out games until you guys trade me 1081 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 1: ahead of the March twenty fifth deadline. Lots of teams 1082 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 1: reportedly interest. We've talked about it before. I mean, Tucker, 1083 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,799 Speaker 1: you could slot him in a lot of places. But 1084 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 1: the Bucks, the Lakers, the Heat, the Nets. Is there 1085 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 1: a team that you think could benefit most from trying 1086 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 1: to get PJ. Tucker from Houston? And they, by the way, 1087 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,839 Speaker 1: want like apparently like a young player. They're not even 1088 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 1: as interested in picks, like, you know, give us a 1089 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 1: promising young player. What do you think? 1090 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 2: I guess because they they stock piled so they got Yeah. Yeah, 1091 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:32,360 Speaker 2: so PJ. Tucker. Man. First I saw the news and 1092 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,319 Speaker 2: Steven Salas, head coach of the Rockets, said, I thought 1093 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 2: he was going to play. I was so disappointed. Just 1094 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 2: feel bad for him. 1095 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 1: Man, what a year for that guy. 1096 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like we came out of the gate coaching well, 1097 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,919 Speaker 2: things looking good. Now they've lost fourteen in a row 1098 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,239 Speaker 2: and it ain't his fault, so that the Rockets yeah, 1099 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 2: falling apart and PJ Tucker. He saw all his other buddies, 1100 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,879 Speaker 2: you know, part of the Rockets crew that was going 1101 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 2: to the finals. They all left, not the finals, the 1102 00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 2: Western Conference finals. They all left in Hard and then Westbrook, 1103 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 2: and so he wants he wants out and it's understandable. 1104 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I've I've talked about it on What You 1105 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 2: Need to Know this morning, So I haven't changed. I 1106 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,799 Speaker 2: think the Miami Heat are just too good. They're just 1107 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,839 Speaker 2: too perfect for him. They need a four. 1108 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 5: Uh. 1109 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:22,720 Speaker 2: They really haven't placed replaced Jay Crowder from their finals run. 1110 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,279 Speaker 2: You talk about guys that you'd never heard of, I 1111 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,279 Speaker 2: mean I had. I had to look up this guy's name, 1112 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 2: k z O Zapala, I think his name is. He 1113 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,760 Speaker 2: started at power forward for the Heat last night. They're 1114 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,760 Speaker 2: they're looking for anybody to play that power forward position. 1115 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 2: You think they're really deep. Moll Hearkless hasn't hasn't worked 1116 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,319 Speaker 2: out for them. I thought that would be the guy 1117 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,280 Speaker 2: that was supposed to replace Ja Crowder who went to Phoenix. 1118 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 2: I think PJ would be absolutely perfect Heat culture. That 1119 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 2: just it just it just makes too much sense. But 1120 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. They do have young guys that they 1121 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 2: could trade back. But how much are they willing to 1122 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 2: give up for PJ. Tucker? Willing to give up Kendrick Nunn, 1123 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 2: I think that would be that's a lot. 1124 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 1: Thirty five yearl guy on an expiring contracts. But but 1125 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:15,239 Speaker 1: but can maybe you know, again, like solidify a contender's 1126 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 1: rotation rightly? So, I mean depends on the player, the 1127 00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,280 Speaker 1: young asset he was sent back, But the right team 1128 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 1: I could see talking themselves into it because he Protucker 1129 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:24,759 Speaker 1: could still help you, no doubt. 1130 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 3: Of course, defensively, oh there's no doubt. I think a 1131 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,839 Speaker 3: lot of those teams would love to have him out 1132 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 3: in there because he does that three and d roll 1133 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,720 Speaker 3: so well. But I certainly wouldn't give up any promising 1134 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,919 Speaker 3: ass Kendrick Nunn. I mean, he's a little a little 1135 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 3: up and down for sure. But again it depends on 1136 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,719 Speaker 3: just how desperate someone thinks PJ. Tucker can help their team, 1137 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,759 Speaker 3: And if they get any sort of significant off excuse me, 1138 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 3: the Rockets get any sort of significant offer, then it 1139 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,759 Speaker 3: just drives that price up a little bit. But I 1140 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,239 Speaker 3: can't see anyone giving up a first round. It'd be 1141 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,320 Speaker 3: more just someone who's on the fringe of their rotation 1142 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 3: that the team feels they can they can do without. 1143 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,279 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's a it's a rental that you're 1144 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 3: getting here from PJ. Tucker for at least this season 1145 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 3: and then even after this he's only probably signing one 1146 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,680 Speaker 3: year deals for here on out. But certainly we know 1147 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 3: that he's a tough guy in that corner. Three is cash, 1148 00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,760 Speaker 3: so he provides some value. 1149 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 1: Not his cash this year. 1150 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,280 Speaker 3: No, but he's not He's not into it this season. 1151 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:20,799 Speaker 3: You know, that's a big part of it. I think 1152 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 3: he's like, what's the point. But I think he can 1153 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 3: still perform when he needs to. 1154 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 1: Trey, is there a team you'd like to see Tucker 1155 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 1: land on? 1156 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 4: I think the Heat is the call as well. Obviously 1157 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,960 Speaker 4: you're going to hear PJ. Tucker put onto all of 1158 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,239 Speaker 4: the contenders as every single player is. Is it going 1159 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:36,840 Speaker 4: to be the Lakers, Is it going to be the Clippers, 1160 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 4: Is it going to be the Nets? Clearly he works 1161 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 4: out there and I think that you'll see him get 1162 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,080 Speaker 4: closer to forty percent from three if he ends up 1163 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:44,799 Speaker 4: on any of those teams and he's shooting wide open 1164 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,200 Speaker 4: jumpers every single time. I would love to see him 1165 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,920 Speaker 4: on the Heat, though, like Tasa San, they could use 1166 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 4: a four who's shooting the threes to replace Jay Crowder. 1167 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 4: The question is, would you give up Kendrick Nunn, a 1168 00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,400 Speaker 4: guy who can be a little bit of a Tyler 1169 00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 4: hero insurance, a little bit of Goran Dragic insurance when 1170 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,280 Speaker 4: those guys are maybe off the court, are not playing 1171 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,440 Speaker 4: super well. Would you trade precious at Chew up a rookie, 1172 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,359 Speaker 4: a guy that they really like. They say he could 1173 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 4: be the next Bam out of Bio, which fair enough, 1174 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,359 Speaker 4: maybe he is, but you got Bam out of Bio 1175 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,400 Speaker 4: and he's also super young. That's might be who the 1176 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,839 Speaker 4: Rockets could be targeting if they're going with the Heat. 1177 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:17,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1178 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,080 Speaker 4: I don't know if if I would do that, but 1179 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,359 Speaker 4: you know, the heater always trying to win the title. 1180 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,200 Speaker 4: They're not just trying to make the playoffs, They're trying 1181 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,440 Speaker 4: to actually get another championship, So perhaps they would do 1182 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 4: it thinking that they're already set there with a BAM. 1183 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,959 Speaker 1: At least it's very very likely PJ. Tucker will be moved. 1184 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure you can get something in return, and if 1185 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,240 Speaker 1: you're the Rockets, I'm sure you'll take anything over nothing, 1186 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,480 Speaker 1: but we'll see you. Okay, we got worse of the week. 1187 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,680 Speaker 1: We got to get to We got a still in 1188 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 1: this show. As we tick up to the hour mark. 1189 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 1: Here Arch madness right around the corner selection Sunday this weekend. Man, 1190 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:51,279 Speaker 1: what can you believe it? 1191 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:51,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1192 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:52,360 Speaker 1: What crazy? 1193 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:52,760 Speaker 4: Crazy? 1194 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,360 Speaker 1: I think that's right, isn't it? 1195 00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 4: March It seems legit. 1196 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 1: Well, that's right around the quarter. That's all no given clutch. Okay, 1197 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 1: time for worse of the week, ladies and gentlemen, the 1198 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 1: worst of the week. 1199 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,480 Speaker 2: This week's worst of the week is the Miami Heats 1200 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 2: Myers Leonard. Leonard was playing Call of Duty on Twitch 1201 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,840 Speaker 2: when he started talking some trash and dropped an anti 1202 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:23,200 Speaker 2: semitic slur. Gaming companies he's partnered with started ending the 1203 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 2: relationship almost immediately in the Miami Heat, saying that Leonard 1204 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,640 Speaker 2: will be away from the team indefinitely as the organization 1205 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 2: quote will not tolerate hateful language from anyone associated with 1206 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,960 Speaker 2: the franchise. Leonard apologized that same day and said he 1207 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 2: didn't know what the word meant at the time, but 1208 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,320 Speaker 2: also that his ignorance about its history and how offensive 1209 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 2: it is to the Jewish community is absolutely not an excuse. 1210 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,120 Speaker 2: The league is conducting an investigation. I think there's two 1211 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:54,359 Speaker 2: things to talk about here. First, I wonder how far 1212 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,239 Speaker 2: should people in the public eye have to go to 1213 00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,600 Speaker 2: rectify a wrong like this, Because in the Athletic Slack 1214 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 2: channel there was a chat going on. Zach Harper brought 1215 00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,919 Speaker 2: up that if you remember Tim Hardaway senior, we talked 1216 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,439 Speaker 2: about him as a Hall of Fame candidate. He made 1217 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,359 Speaker 2: homophobic comments a long time ago, and then he made 1218 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,800 Speaker 2: some real efforts to educate himself and become an advocate 1219 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:20,279 Speaker 2: and ally for the LGBTQ community. He didn't just apologize 1220 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,359 Speaker 2: and move on. The league shouldn't force something like that. 1221 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,880 Speaker 2: To me, I mean, that's that's what you should happen. 1222 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:30,880 Speaker 2: Just educate yourself. And I think you saw Edelman of 1223 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,759 Speaker 2: the Patriots reach out to Meyers Leonard come on over, man, 1224 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,960 Speaker 2: let me let me educate you, let me I think 1225 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,240 Speaker 2: that's what should happen, and hopefully it does. The second 1226 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,840 Speaker 2: thing is the Heat saying he will and definitely not 1227 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:46,239 Speaker 2: be with the team. I can't remember a team an 1228 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 2: organization after someone slipped up said something incorrect. It was 1229 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:55,760 Speaker 2: totally wrong. To just send him away. I can't remember 1230 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 2: a situation like this. 1231 00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,480 Speaker 1: He's not playing though, either, right, I mean he's injured 1232 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,520 Speaker 1: for the season. Oh for so it's a little easier 1233 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,359 Speaker 1: I think maybe a decision. I think it's the right 1234 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 1: decision still, but yeah, he's he's out for the year. 1235 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so good on them, and hopefully he goes to 1236 00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,400 Speaker 2: to educate himself. He I guess, yeah, he's out for 1237 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,560 Speaker 2: the season. I didn't realize that he was injured. 1238 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,480 Speaker 3: And I guess the hat said the het have said 1239 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:23,520 Speaker 3: he will have to participate in a cultural diversity program, 1240 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 3: so that's the first step anyway, But you would like 1241 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 3: to see him obviously take some initiative on his own 1242 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 3: as well. I think yeah. 1243 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,080 Speaker 1: And his apology was I got to say it was 1244 00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 1: a little weird. I mean he was basically saying I 1245 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 1: did not know what the slur meant before. If you 1246 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,560 Speaker 1: watch the clip before, I very deliberately used a slur. 1247 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,880 Speaker 1: I mean he was he you know, that's not a 1248 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,839 Speaker 1: word casually thrown around. So that was that's brutal. I mean, 1249 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:47,960 Speaker 1: this is an obvious worst of the week. 1250 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:51,920 Speaker 4: Tomyros's Lenner Sorry go aheah, exactly right, if he didn't 1251 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,280 Speaker 4: know what the word meant, he has to at least 1252 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,799 Speaker 4: know that it's a slur because of the way he 1253 00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,319 Speaker 4: delivered it, and honestly, the culture of online game that 1254 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:04,440 Speaker 4: it's not something that is completely foreign to coming up. 1255 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,319 Speaker 4: So I mean, he knew he was saying something that 1256 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,759 Speaker 4: was going to be offensive, and like Tass is saying, 1257 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,759 Speaker 4: this is his chance now to educate himself and make 1258 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,719 Speaker 4: some amends for the horrible things he said. Because he's 1259 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 4: being held accountable a little bit here, he should be 1260 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 4: held accountable a lot more, I would say, and I 1261 00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,800 Speaker 4: think that that's what the heater doing. He has a chance, 1262 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,880 Speaker 4: though to actually turn this into a positive, just like 1263 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,959 Speaker 4: Tim Hardaway was able to do. But right now, bad 1264 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 4: stuff from Meyers Leonard an easy call for worst of. 1265 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:36,760 Speaker 2: The week, and he won't be wearing these gold jerseys 1266 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 2: that the Miami Heat also released this week. Listen. At 1267 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:44,600 Speaker 2: first I didn't like them. I didn't like them, but 1268 00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 2: I have been convinced, guys, you have this gold has 1269 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 2: nothing to do with their colorway, what's going on here? 1270 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,439 Speaker 1: That's not gold? He's called his gold. It doesn't look 1271 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,680 Speaker 1: gold where the goal? 1272 00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:02,440 Speaker 2: That's okay, okay, you're right, You're right, it's Mustardy, But 1273 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 2: I guess I'm convinced number one because they use the 1274 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:09,440 Speaker 2: hashtag trophy gold. Yes, so it's gold, I guess. But 1275 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,560 Speaker 2: then I saw the video because there's a theme here. 1276 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:17,360 Speaker 2: It is about going after the Larry O'Brian Trophy, and 1277 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,760 Speaker 2: this is their earned edition. Every team that makes the 1278 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 2: playoffs releases a special jersey. Only sixteen teams get jerseys, 1279 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,040 Speaker 2: and their's is dedicated to getting the gold Ball, so 1280 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 2: the muster. I see this video, I see this gold 1281 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,640 Speaker 2: ball being thrown around by Chris Bosh Terray Allen, and 1282 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,000 Speaker 2: I'm sold. In Miami, he'd have enough of a culture 1283 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,080 Speaker 2: to be able to go away from their colorways and 1284 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:44,400 Speaker 2: rock something that's totally different. And UKG, I'm sure is happy. 1285 00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,280 Speaker 2: I don't know what UKG is, but I'm sure they're happy. 1286 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:51,320 Speaker 2: This is good for I just I went from worst 1287 00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:55,040 Speaker 2: of the week. No way. You can't go miles away 1288 00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,160 Speaker 2: from your colorways. But if you got a theme and 1289 00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:59,520 Speaker 2: you back it up on the floor, and you back 1290 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 2: it up as a as an organization, because they are 1291 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:07,760 Speaker 2: a stand up organization. Good, I'm okay with it. 1292 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:12,040 Speaker 3: Okay, were where was Lebrun in that video though, well. 1293 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 2: He wasn't there at all that I mean. 1294 00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:18,000 Speaker 1: Because he's still the pra right for another franchise. 1295 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,400 Speaker 3: I've disappointed that he didn't include Lebron. 1296 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,760 Speaker 2: Come on, man, was Shaq not there? Wade not Shaq? 1297 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,760 Speaker 3: White was in it? And Shack I think hugged him 1298 00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:28,720 Speaker 3: and then wash and right on. 1299 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,720 Speaker 2: But it's like, come on, yeah, I guess what Skates 1300 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 2: is saying? No current players, so I don't think so. 1301 00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,640 Speaker 1: I mean a guy also wearing gold? 1302 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love gold. 1303 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:47,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an issue. Anyone else that's it? Okay, No, No, 1304 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,600 Speaker 1: the Knicks aren't going to get a little uh you know, 1305 00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,440 Speaker 1: Worse of the Week nominee for not knowing who Patrick 1306 00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:54,280 Speaker 1: Hughey is walking. 1307 00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,480 Speaker 2: Well, you know, well. 1308 00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's mat some square garden security, isn't it. 1309 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:02,959 Speaker 3: I'm only guessing from. 1310 01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:04,200 Speaker 4: Him somebody got a car. 1311 01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:08,360 Speaker 3: I'm only guessing play in franchise history. 1312 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,360 Speaker 1: You can't walk. He's only Patrick. 1313 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 3: It's like twenty four years since he last played for 1314 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,880 Speaker 3: the Knicks, so the security guards are probably, you know, 1315 01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,960 Speaker 3: so young that they maybe don't even recognize him. I'm 1316 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,840 Speaker 3: just that's the only reason I can think of because 1317 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,280 Speaker 3: I mean, he's a gigantic man, but he doesn't, you know, 1318 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:28,760 Speaker 3: like when you look at the sort of Patrick h 1319 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,960 Speaker 3: he's got the flat top, he's obviously in great shape, 1320 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,480 Speaker 3: and he's wearing the big jersey. Maybe they just don't 1321 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,760 Speaker 3: recognize him. I'm not sure. That's the only thing I 1322 01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:36,240 Speaker 3: can think of. 1323 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a New York Knicks legend, the whole 1324 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 1: point of the line, and like you're saying, he's seven 1325 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,960 Speaker 1: feet tall, Yeah, they're not mistaking him for somebody. 1326 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,880 Speaker 4: But so far they've kicked Charles Oakley out of the building, 1327 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,760 Speaker 4: They've kicked Spikey out of the building. They are having 1328 01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:56,680 Speaker 4: problems perhaps kicking Patrick Ewing out of the building. What 1329 01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 4: other Knicks legends are left that they could disrespect, Like 1330 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,000 Speaker 4: it's Clyde Frazier, that's it. Luckily he is super easy 1331 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,280 Speaker 4: to recognize because he's got those patterns on you know 1332 01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,320 Speaker 4: what's him. Maybe that's what Patrick Ewing's got to do, 1333 01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,800 Speaker 4: either wear his jersey around or start being a guy 1334 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,400 Speaker 4: that wears fancy suits. 1335 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,360 Speaker 1: They're right, they're they're they're young. You're I'm sure you're 1336 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,160 Speaker 1: right lately, but still that should be the first test 1337 01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:20,479 Speaker 1: they have to take to get the job. 1338 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:22,960 Speaker 4: Who is that? 1339 01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:28,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, there's a lot of staffs, a 1340 01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,160 Speaker 2: lot of workforces that are have been decreased due to 1341 01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,280 Speaker 2: the coronavirus pandemic. Every time you call somebody, you get 1342 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 2: the line on the other end. Due to the coronavirus pandemic, 1343 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,640 Speaker 2: we do not have as many people taking calls. Maybe 1344 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,680 Speaker 2: the security staff is under the same circumstances. Maybe they 1345 01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:47,040 Speaker 2: just picked people off the street in New York. Who 1346 01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:48,520 Speaker 2: should know who Patrick Ewing is? 1347 01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:53,760 Speaker 1: Okay, we slipped it in there. Okay, let's get to Masterclass. 1348 01:01:53,760 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 1: What I learned this week? My turn with Masterclass. What 1349 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,600 Speaker 1: I learned this week and this week, guys, I was 1350 01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:11,400 Speaker 1: going back to my man Ron Finley teaching me some 1351 01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:15,480 Speaker 1: gardening tips on master Class. Yes, now, what I love 1352 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:20,720 Speaker 1: about this Typically you associate gardening with like a little 1353 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:24,080 Speaker 1: old lady in a straw hat. That's where eye mine goes. 1354 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:26,560 Speaker 1: Ron is the opposite of that. 1355 01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:27,280 Speaker 4: This guy is. 1356 01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:31,520 Speaker 1: Cool as shit. Man. He's called the Gangster gardener for 1357 01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:36,120 Speaker 1: a reason. His voice incredible, and he makes what I 1358 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 1: find at times gardening like could be a daunting topic 1359 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:44,240 Speaker 1: seems super accessible and super actually easy he shows you 1360 01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:47,880 Speaker 1: how to plant sweet potatoes very easy. Take a sweet potato, 1361 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,360 Speaker 1: throw it in the ground, plant sweet potatoe, and like 1362 01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,400 Speaker 1: he uses like a bunch of things for like a pot, 1363 01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,240 Speaker 1: uses a boot for a pot. He's like, anything can 1364 01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,400 Speaker 1: be a pot as long as it got drainage. It's 1365 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,840 Speaker 1: a pot. That hat you're wearing, tray, that's a pot. 1366 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,919 Speaker 1: He grows. Absolutely, it'd be an honor to grow something 1367 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,320 Speaker 1: in that. Larry lucat So he also talks a lot 1368 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,880 Speaker 1: about dirt. Ron Finley does the different elements to it 1369 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,439 Speaker 1: and breaking it all down. He talks composting tasks. You'd 1370 01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,200 Speaker 1: really like that, how that doesn't need to be complicated either. 1371 01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:16,920 Speaker 1: I just love it. But at the end of the day, 1372 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,320 Speaker 1: the biggest takeaway I took from Ron Finley's class on 1373 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:24,360 Speaker 1: gardening don't be afraid to just try, you know. And 1374 01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:25,800 Speaker 1: I get caught up in that, you know, I think 1375 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people do. I don't want to screw 1376 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,280 Speaker 1: up this, or I might kill that, or I don't 1377 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,320 Speaker 1: really know how to do it. Just try it. At 1378 01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:33,480 Speaker 1: the end of the day, just give it a go 1379 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,160 Speaker 1: and and learn on the fly. So, yeah, keep it 1380 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:38,720 Speaker 1: as simple as that. I don't know, Lee, have you 1381 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:39,360 Speaker 1: watched that one. 1382 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, well my wife, Yeah, my wife's gotten through it. 1383 01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,080 Speaker 3: I sort of dipped in and out of it. But yeah, 1384 01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:46,920 Speaker 3: we talked about him because he says, you know, we 1385 01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,520 Speaker 3: call it dirt when it's soil because it grows. All 1386 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,480 Speaker 3: have our vegetables and all our things. And that's the 1387 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,800 Speaker 3: thing with my garlic. That's what I did learn. You know, 1388 01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:56,520 Speaker 3: I had too much garlic in the one plot, and 1389 01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,320 Speaker 3: when I took the other garlics out, the other one flourish, 1390 01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:07,479 Speaker 3: the galloping. I love his delivery. I just I think 1391 01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:09,760 Speaker 3: I think he's great the gangs today, just how he 1392 01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,040 Speaker 3: gets the message across and he just says, look, it's 1393 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 3: like you're saying, it's not super complicated. You just have 1394 01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,640 Speaker 3: to take your time and learn a little bit and uh, 1395 01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,240 Speaker 3: you know, treat it with care and respect, and you 1396 01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,680 Speaker 3: can grow some incredible stuff. So get out there and 1397 01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:23,000 Speaker 3: do it. 1398 01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,240 Speaker 4: Do it. Plants want to grow? Is that what he says. 1399 01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,160 Speaker 4: They're like, they want to grow. Put them in the ground. 1400 01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 4: Something's gonna happen. I love I think this one is 1401 01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,040 Speaker 4: worth watching just for the visuals of it. That garden 1402 01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:38,400 Speaker 4: he's sitting in the backyard like a completely wild garden. 1403 01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:40,520 Speaker 4: That looks awesome. That's what I want my backyard to 1404 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:41,200 Speaker 4: look like someday. 1405 01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 1: I was going to ask you tasks, like you've got 1406 01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,400 Speaker 1: the new house, now did your your compost make it 1407 01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,600 Speaker 1: over to the new place? Like are the neighbors going 1408 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,320 Speaker 1: to be judging it is a nice compost bin out 1409 01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:51,680 Speaker 1: in the back or what's going on over there? 1410 01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,840 Speaker 2: Oh? I got the bend for sure. Yeah that is yeah. Yeah. 1411 01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:58,760 Speaker 2: I blessed my land, my prior land, my old home 1412 01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,480 Speaker 2: with with my old though. I mean, it was a 1413 01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,840 Speaker 2: bit of a it was. It was a little bit 1414 01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,120 Speaker 2: of work taking out all the dirt from my compost 1415 01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,360 Speaker 2: bin and spreading it on the land. But my land 1416 01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,200 Speaker 2: was very happy with me after I did. And I did, 1417 01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,480 Speaker 2: I'm not sure, I've got to ask mister Finley about this, 1418 01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,160 Speaker 2: because I stuck my hand in there into my compost 1419 01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:22,240 Speaker 2: bare handed, because I was an idiot. I just I 1420 01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,200 Speaker 2: was just too lazy to go grab my gloves, and 1421 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:28,000 Speaker 2: I literally I felt something like poke both my fingers 1422 01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,680 Speaker 2: and I thought, okay, I don't know what what in 1423 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:35,200 Speaker 2: an eggshell perhaps, But then then literally it happened on 1424 01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,600 Speaker 2: my other hand like, this is weird. This is just weird. 1425 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,480 Speaker 2: I do break down my eggshells. I think the compost 1426 01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:42,920 Speaker 2: was so on fire. It gets so hot that it 1427 01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,040 Speaker 2: literally burnt me because then I had blisters. It gets 1428 01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:49,480 Speaker 2: so hot, literally, mister Finley, I wonder how hot does 1429 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,480 Speaker 2: that get. I think that the process in there could 1430 01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,840 Speaker 2: be like super duper hot, because yeah, I blisters on 1431 01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:59,480 Speaker 2: all my fingers. It's really weird. It was really really weird. 1432 01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,560 Speaker 1: I Finley too bit of a renaissance man because I 1433 01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,040 Speaker 1: was reading up on him. He was like a fashion 1434 01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:09,400 Speaker 1: designer for like professional athletes in addition to doing all 1435 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:10,280 Speaker 1: this Yeah. 1436 01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,560 Speaker 3: Wow yeah, no, clue, isn't it. Yeah? 1437 01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,920 Speaker 1: I know this guy can do it all. He's literally 1438 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:17,600 Speaker 1: the master of Masterclass. 1439 01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,040 Speaker 4: When you released that one, so good? 1440 01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:24,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I highly recommend that one. It is fantastic stuff. Okay, 1441 01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:29,479 Speaker 1: So that is what I learned this week in Masterclass. Okay, 1442 01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:30,640 Speaker 1: let's get to tweeted the night. 1443 01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:38,120 Speaker 2: Tweet out the night, Wow, tweet the night. 1444 01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:42,880 Speaker 1: Keeping it simple because we talked on yesterday's show about 1445 01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,200 Speaker 1: all the Earned edition jerseys, and one of them was 1446 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,400 Speaker 1: the Miami Heat one. We talked about that we were 1447 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,360 Speaker 1: down on it. Task just talked that he doesn't mind 1448 01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,720 Speaker 1: the jersey that much. But we got into the Great 1449 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,360 Speaker 1: Jerseys at one point, and I love this tweet from 1450 01:06:55,400 --> 01:07:00,880 Speaker 1: Larry Fisherman at Eaker. This is who he was designing 1451 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,000 Speaker 1: great jerseys for. And if you're listening to the podcast, 1452 01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:10,000 Speaker 1: it's a dog looking at that great Clippers jersey howling 1453 01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,240 Speaker 1: at this too. I thought it was so damn funny. 1454 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:15,960 Speaker 1: I just said, I actually have a lot of questions 1455 01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,080 Speaker 1: about this photo, but I we'll save it for another day. 1456 01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, this dog is designing these great jerseys. What 1457 01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:22,920 Speaker 1: do you think about those ones? Tasks? Are you a 1458 01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:24,480 Speaker 1: fan of the especially that Clippers one? 1459 01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:28,880 Speaker 2: You know, the mannequin is so important. I think on 1460 01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:32,440 Speaker 2: these jerseys they make them look so good, that tall, 1461 01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,400 Speaker 2: strapping mannequin. It's like any jersey would look good on 1462 01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:40,280 Speaker 2: the I don't know. I didn't. I think they're getting 1463 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,439 Speaker 2: better with the lighting and the photos. Like I didn't 1464 01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:44,120 Speaker 2: hate it. I think on the court, I think on 1465 01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:45,919 Speaker 2: the court I would hate it. I know I don't 1466 01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:49,000 Speaker 2: like great jerseys either, but I don't know. You get 1467 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,400 Speaker 2: a cute dog and a photo. I don't know. 1468 01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,920 Speaker 1: The dog helps the dog, does it definitely helps. 1469 01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:58,439 Speaker 4: But yeah, Blazers wore their grays last night. I didn't 1470 01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,680 Speaker 4: realize there was gray looking as they were going to be. 1471 01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:02,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was one of. 1472 01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:04,760 Speaker 4: The better gray jerseys I thought that we've seen. Now, 1473 01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,440 Speaker 4: having seen it on the court previous, I would probably 1474 01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:11,400 Speaker 4: remember the Nets wore a gray one that had sleeves 1475 01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,000 Speaker 4: back in the day that looked like a Brooklyn Dodgers uniform. 1476 01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,800 Speaker 4: It just looks so sweaty. You got to go really 1477 01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,000 Speaker 4: light gray. I do believe that was the key with 1478 01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:19,640 Speaker 4: the Blazers. 1479 01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,040 Speaker 1: And that's the thing. I will admit that you see 1480 01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,679 Speaker 1: the photos of the jerseys, be it on the mannequin 1481 01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,360 Speaker 1: or not, and you're like, okay, you have a reaction 1482 01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:29,559 Speaker 1: to it. Oh, I hate these, I like these whatever. 1483 01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:30,160 Speaker 4: You do. 1484 01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:34,000 Speaker 1: Have to see them on the court against another team's 1485 01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:37,920 Speaker 1: color palette with the lights and of course with you know, 1486 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:39,840 Speaker 1: with the shorts if you can, and the whole look, 1487 01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,000 Speaker 1: and then you sometimes change your opinion a little bit 1488 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,719 Speaker 1: on them. That's fair, But I love that great stuff. 1489 01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,400 Speaker 1: Larry Fisherman with tweet of the night. All right, pick 1490 01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:52,880 Speaker 1: them results from last night. Celtic's Nets. Nets were wearing 1491 01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,280 Speaker 1: their new earned addition jerseys, So I thought they looked 1492 01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:59,280 Speaker 1: pretty good with those, and they got the victory as 1493 01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,000 Speaker 1: we talked about taking over with the forty points. So 1494 01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:03,559 Speaker 1: that's a win for Tray, a win for Lee, a 1495 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,479 Speaker 1: win for me, and I desperately needed that. Task gets 1496 01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:08,400 Speaker 1: his first l in the month of March, but he 1497 01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:10,639 Speaker 1: still leads the way. Task is five and one, Tray's 1498 01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,880 Speaker 1: four and two, leads three and three, and I'm two 1499 01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:14,840 Speaker 1: and four. What's tonight's game? 1500 01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:20,560 Speaker 2: Task Nuggets versus the Grizzlies. Two teams feeling good about themselves. 1501 01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,120 Speaker 2: This is game five of a West Coast trip, or 1502 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,599 Speaker 2: five of a road trip for the Denver Nuggets. They've 1503 01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,880 Speaker 2: won their first four on the trip. Well, Memphis they 1504 01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:32,400 Speaker 2: played on Wednesday in that opening night after the All 1505 01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,160 Speaker 2: Star Break, and they got a win against the Washington Wizards. 1506 01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:38,680 Speaker 2: So Denver hot, feeling good, but it's a long time ago. 1507 01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,360 Speaker 2: Can they keep it up against the Grizzlies, who are 1508 01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:43,639 Speaker 2: plus three and a half. They can lose by three 1509 01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,439 Speaker 2: points and still get you the victory here, So Denver 1510 01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,639 Speaker 2: at Memphis plus three and a half, skeets, why don't 1511 01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:50,280 Speaker 2: you get it started? 1512 01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,640 Speaker 1: This one's tough because I think both of these teams, 1513 01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,320 Speaker 1: as we talked about yesterday, too, are prime to go 1514 01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:57,280 Speaker 1: on a bit of a second half run here. I 1515 01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,479 Speaker 1: have high hopes for both of these teams, Nuggets to 1516 01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:04,440 Speaker 1: the Nugget Nuggets, the Nuggets to climb up the rankings 1517 01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:08,600 Speaker 1: in terms of the Western Conference, and then the Grizzlies to, 1518 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:10,920 Speaker 1: of course, like get into the playoffs. I think the 1519 01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:12,920 Speaker 1: Grizzlies are being slept on, so I'm going to go 1520 01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,920 Speaker 1: with the Memphis Grizzlies to at least cover in a 1521 01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,679 Speaker 1: close S game. Give me Memphis, Trey, what do you think? 1522 01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:23,040 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go the opposite of Skeets because he took 1523 01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,000 Speaker 4: the Grizzlies as his second half team. I took the 1524 01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,360 Speaker 4: Nuggets as my second half team, and it's their first 1525 01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:27,880 Speaker 4: game back. 1526 01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:31,639 Speaker 2: Gimme Denver, perfect Lee, I too. 1527 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,920 Speaker 3: Will take the Nuggets in this one. I think it 1528 01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:36,479 Speaker 3: is going to be a close game, but four points 1529 01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:39,679 Speaker 3: I think favors Denver enough, so I will take Nikola 1530 01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:43,599 Speaker 3: Yokich and Jamal Murray and hopefully my man fucked Undu 1531 01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:44,200 Speaker 3: is back. 1532 01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,479 Speaker 1: Did you see that we pulled the compazo on the 1533 01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:49,360 Speaker 1: top boys? 1534 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,280 Speaker 3: Did I did? You're trying to me into the top 1535 01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:53,439 Speaker 3: boys and I could do. 1536 01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:57,200 Speaker 1: It special special moment. So you got to task. 1537 01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:01,599 Speaker 2: That was a great get app between Fat and Kondo. Right, 1538 01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,559 Speaker 2: I will go with the opposite of Lee. I like 1539 01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:09,559 Speaker 2: the Grizzlies. Okay, why not? They now have thirty nine 1540 01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,400 Speaker 2: games in sixty six nights. Is that a lot? I mean, 1541 01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,679 Speaker 2: I guess it is. It's hard. It's hard to wrap 1542 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,400 Speaker 2: your head around those big numbers five and seven, I understand. 1543 01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,880 Speaker 2: But everybody talking about Grizzlies and the Spurs forty games 1544 01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:24,639 Speaker 2: and sixty eight nights. So now thirty nine and sixty six, 1545 01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:26,760 Speaker 2: it's gonna be a it's gonna be a tough sleig. 1546 01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:27,920 Speaker 2: Gotta get these wins in early. 1547 01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,280 Speaker 1: Give me a grizz you know what though, they're a 1548 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:34,960 Speaker 1: young squad, so you know, if anyone could maybe you know, 1549 01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:36,960 Speaker 1: not run the gauntlet or anything like that, but play 1550 01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:38,600 Speaker 1: a lot of games in a short time. If you 1551 01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,400 Speaker 1: get all your healthy guys, get all your guys back, 1552 01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:42,080 Speaker 1: you know, Jared Jackson Junior will be big. They need 1553 01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:42,800 Speaker 1: him back in the mix. 1554 01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:44,320 Speaker 4: It's Jaron Jackson Junior. 1555 01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:45,600 Speaker 2: I do not know. 1556 01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:46,559 Speaker 4: It's kind of long sun. 1557 01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:48,679 Speaker 1: It's got to be soon that he would be coming back. 1558 01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:50,880 Speaker 1: I got, I got again, I got faith in the 1559 01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,479 Speaker 1: Grizzlies here to do something special here in second half. Okay, 1560 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:55,000 Speaker 1: so we're split on that one, right task. You and 1561 01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:57,320 Speaker 1: I got the Grizzlies keep it close enough and these 1562 01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:59,679 Speaker 1: guys Tray and Lee have the Nuggets to win by four. 1563 01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:01,640 Speaker 1: Good luck to you, good luck to you, good luck 1564 01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:03,439 Speaker 1: to you, good luck to me. Okay, let's end this 1565 01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,280 Speaker 1: drop podcast a little rapid fire fun. 1566 01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:09,880 Speaker 2: Rapid fire fun. Here we go first one, Current Raptors 1567 01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,559 Speaker 2: legend Kyle Lowry, said this week that no matter where 1568 01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,599 Speaker 2: his basketball career takes him over the next few seasons, 1569 01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:19,040 Speaker 2: he will retire as a member of the Toronto Raptors. 1570 01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:25,320 Speaker 2: He can't quit Toronto. What's something you can't quit? Jd M. 1571 01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:32,920 Speaker 5: I can't seem to quit Star Wars. You know, it's 1572 01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:37,080 Speaker 5: been pretty mediocre for the past third well since Empire 1573 01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:44,760 Speaker 5: strikes back, really but thirty years now. Yeah, but you know, 1574 01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,720 Speaker 5: I still I'll you know, I watched all of the 1575 01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:52,120 Speaker 5: Mandalorian I'll watch anything that they put out, I'll put 1576 01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:56,200 Speaker 5: I'll watch. I'm gonna go see any movie anything to 1577 01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:59,000 Speaker 5: do with Star Wars. I'm gonna watch and I just 1578 01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:01,720 Speaker 5: can't seem to quit it. I don't know what it is. 1579 01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:06,400 Speaker 5: Maybe because it was like the first movie where I 1580 01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:08,920 Speaker 5: was like, ooh, this is like this is awesome, but 1581 01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,400 Speaker 5: I was five, you know, same reason. 1582 01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:15,639 Speaker 4: I haven't been able to stop watching Sesame Street every 1583 01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,280 Speaker 4: single year. Another one that's crazy. Are you feeling the 1584 01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:21,280 Speaker 4: Adam Driver era of Star Wars as with him as 1585 01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:22,400 Speaker 4: one of the main villains. 1586 01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:26,400 Speaker 2: I mean I was fine with it. I was, yeah, 1587 01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:26,920 Speaker 2: it was. 1588 01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:30,880 Speaker 5: It was okay, I guess, but I don't know when 1589 01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,679 Speaker 5: it like, I'll see them and I'll go that was amazing, 1590 01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:35,599 Speaker 5: and then I'll sort of stop and think about it 1591 01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:36,160 Speaker 5: and go. 1592 01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:38,000 Speaker 4: Was it though? 1593 01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,759 Speaker 5: Was it amazing? Not really? 1594 01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:48,080 Speaker 3: But you know, cover I'm watching it because I love 1595 01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:51,080 Speaker 3: the Karate Kids, but it's so like good it's not, 1596 01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,080 Speaker 3: but I'll keep watching it. 1597 01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:58,200 Speaker 2: It's amazing to you, JD. It's amazing to you. 1598 01:13:58,760 --> 01:13:59,880 Speaker 5: That's I suppose I saw. 1599 01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:02,360 Speaker 2: All Right, Trey, what's something you can't quit? 1600 01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:06,360 Speaker 4: I think it was February twelfth that that video of 1601 01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,360 Speaker 4: the guy singing Jack and Diane but every lyric is 1602 01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:12,400 Speaker 4: sucking on a chili dog came out and since then 1603 01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,479 Speaker 4: it's been exactly a month, and I've called my kids 1604 01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,559 Speaker 4: chili dogs for the entire time since then. Dad, why 1605 01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:21,439 Speaker 4: do you call us chili dogs because you're chili dogs? 1606 01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:23,840 Speaker 4: Because I don't really want them to be walking around 1607 01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:25,599 Speaker 4: just saying sucking on a chili dog. So I don't 1608 01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:29,080 Speaker 4: go into the full explanation. But it's a great name 1609 01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,840 Speaker 4: for your kids. And I actually just heard Jack and 1610 01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,400 Speaker 4: Diane on the radio for the first time since I 1611 01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:37,360 Speaker 4: heard this, And when you finally hear it again, it's 1612 01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:39,040 Speaker 4: just gonna make you laugh. It's gonna make you laugh. 1613 01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:42,280 Speaker 4: You'll never sing it the same after hearing that guy 1614 01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:44,080 Speaker 4: he killed it. 1615 01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:45,400 Speaker 2: Its skeates. What's something you can't quit? 1616 01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,599 Speaker 1: It's well, I was gonna say unfortunately, but that's not true. 1617 01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:53,000 Speaker 1: It's wrestling. I just, you know, I always just got 1618 01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,479 Speaker 1: to keep my eye on it. I gotta listen to 1619 01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:59,240 Speaker 1: my Masked Man podcast. I gotta maybe you know, watching 1620 01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,960 Speaker 1: on legal stream of a pay per view here or there. 1621 01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,559 Speaker 1: I'm not watching it at all otherwise it's just the 1622 01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,320 Speaker 1: weirdest thing. But I, like, you know, I'm reading a 1623 01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,120 Speaker 1: blog or two about it. I just can't quit it. 1624 01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,640 Speaker 1: I just have to know enough that I can then 1625 01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:13,400 Speaker 1: jump back in at any point and sort of have 1626 01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:16,200 Speaker 1: a good idea where where we're at in terms of like, uh, 1627 01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,839 Speaker 1: you know, heels and bayfaces and all that. So it's wrestling. 1628 01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:24,960 Speaker 1: I love it. Royal Rumble. Who on the Royal Rumble? 1629 01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:28,880 Speaker 1: Great question. I watched it and I couldn't even tell you. 1630 01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:36,240 Speaker 1: I don't know was the miss he just won the 1631 01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. He just won mishad 1632 01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,320 Speaker 1: the title and he's Bobby Lashley had now has it? 1633 01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:42,000 Speaker 1: I forget who won the Bobby Lashley. 1634 01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,719 Speaker 4: They put the strap on Bobby last That's crazy. 1635 01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:49,400 Speaker 1: Okay, Edge, Yes that was a weird one. Yes, good 1636 01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:50,439 Speaker 1: old Canadian boy Edge. 1637 01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:52,040 Speaker 2: Nice job stream. 1638 01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:56,080 Speaker 1: Schumann he wrestling. 1639 01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't quit it either, No you can't. 1640 01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,760 Speaker 2: Stream teamers coming through. Actually a comment I wanted to 1641 01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,679 Speaker 2: include from the stream team something that sep B can't 1642 01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:08,920 Speaker 2: quit is weeded And that made me think, are our 1643 01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:12,400 Speaker 2: movers that we just had part of the pitch that 1644 01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:16,120 Speaker 2: the person who is that we you know, made the 1645 01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:18,920 Speaker 2: request to for our movers was said, oh, yeah, you 1646 01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,680 Speaker 2: got to come with our company. Our guys are all 1647 01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:25,120 Speaker 2: drug tested. I'm like, okay, I don't care if they're 1648 01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:29,080 Speaker 2: drug tested anyway. So afterwards they moved everything out. I'm 1649 01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:32,280 Speaker 2: cleaning up. I see a little piece of paper that 1650 01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:37,680 Speaker 2: says perp B three point five grams. Like, okay, this 1651 01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:42,559 Speaker 2: is a plant. It's like a request, your request for 1652 01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:44,519 Speaker 2: three point five grams the weed that one of these 1653 01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:49,719 Speaker 2: guys dropped. Very funny anyway. 1654 01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:50,920 Speaker 1: But they did a great job. 1655 01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:56,799 Speaker 2: Not a thout. They did not bat a thousand percent. 1656 01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:01,240 Speaker 2: A couple things were lost. One thing was broken. Yeah, 1657 01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:06,000 Speaker 2: so weird. And we got an extra table from somebody 1658 01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:11,840 Speaker 2: else around, like like a little tiny side table showed 1659 01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:13,240 Speaker 2: up smoking too much. 1660 01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:14,559 Speaker 1: They've gots table. 1661 01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:19,120 Speaker 2: It is like it's actually like a perfect smoking table. 1662 01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:21,479 Speaker 2: It's like you would put cigars on to it. 1663 01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:22,000 Speaker 1: Was there. 1664 01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:26,600 Speaker 2: It's the weirdest thing. It's like got the diameter of 1665 01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:30,000 Speaker 2: like six inches. It's like a tiny table. It's like 1666 01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:34,040 Speaker 2: so tiny. It's a long, it's tall, it's like four 1667 01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,040 Speaker 2: feet tall. But it's got like the tiniest top, like 1668 01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:39,320 Speaker 2: you could fit like a tubby yogurt on it. 1669 01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:40,880 Speaker 1: It sounds like the thing from the Home. 1670 01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,720 Speaker 2: Oh right, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly the same thing. 1671 01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:49,240 Speaker 1: It's like a tiny weed table. 1672 01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:52,000 Speaker 2: It's a tiny little weed let's yeah, I could set 1673 01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,840 Speaker 2: be said, maybe it's a table for rolling joints. Well, yeah, 1674 01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:58,920 Speaker 2: I love it, but it's gonna fall over like it's 1675 01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:03,200 Speaker 2: it's it's not mate, you know, it's like, well, it's 1676 01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:03,760 Speaker 2: very top. 1677 01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:04,759 Speaker 1: It's just too tiny. 1678 01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:08,800 Speaker 2: There's not enough of a base anyway, next one here. 1679 01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:11,160 Speaker 2: So the slam Donk contest happened at All Star weekend. 1680 01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:13,160 Speaker 2: It was kind of entertaining and then it was over. 1681 01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:16,479 Speaker 2: It was quick, It wasn't bad. It just wasn't all 1682 01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:19,600 Speaker 2: that memorable. What's something that was mildly amusing at the 1683 01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:26,400 Speaker 2: time but you barely remember it now. JDM Mike Baron. 1684 01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:31,040 Speaker 1: Remember Mike Baron. Baron was the jam loved that game. 1685 01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that was I guess I think it 1686 01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:38,360 Speaker 5: was twenty eleven because I remember playing at NonStop when 1687 01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:41,960 Speaker 5: we were on the No Season Required Tour. So I'm 1688 01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:45,600 Speaker 5: obsessed with that game and I haven't played it, I 1689 01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:50,240 Speaker 5: don't think since twenty eleven. I barely remember, you know, 1690 01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:54,639 Speaker 5: the paths or any of the tricks of the trade. 1691 01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,120 Speaker 5: You know, I remember it being really fun, but it 1692 01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:00,160 Speaker 5: was just it was weird to be so into something 1693 01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:03,439 Speaker 5: and then it's just completely gone, completely gone. 1694 01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:05,680 Speaker 1: We were so into Maddio and I. We would like 1695 01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,920 Speaker 1: share text back and forth, like how to beat levels 1696 01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,880 Speaker 1: and like, oh I found this YouTube video a trick 1697 01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,640 Speaker 1: here to get the motorcycle up onto this Like, uh, 1698 01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:17,599 Speaker 1: that was a great game. Does it still exist? Bike 1699 01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:19,519 Speaker 1: Baring It was an iPhone now, great question. 1700 01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:23,880 Speaker 5: I've definitely seen variations of it, like dirt by like 1701 01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:28,840 Speaker 5: on PlayStation and stuff, you know, like same physics, you know, 1702 01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,080 Speaker 5: but not the same not the same guy on the 1703 01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:32,120 Speaker 5: little moped, you know. 1704 01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:34,280 Speaker 1: Was there a little dog or cat on the back 1705 01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:35,000 Speaker 1: of his bike too? 1706 01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:35,840 Speaker 4: There was a cat? 1707 01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:37,600 Speaker 5: Yeah right, you're right. 1708 01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,679 Speaker 4: It's still around in skeets. I gotta say, the bike 1709 01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:44,120 Speaker 4: Baron kind of looks like you what little beard going 1710 01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,200 Speaker 4: on right now? This could literally be you if you 1711 01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:50,240 Speaker 4: get like a shear wing lined leather jacket. Okay, yeah, 1712 01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:54,759 Speaker 4: Bike Bearon's still in the mix. Incredible four point four stars. 1713 01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:56,000 Speaker 4: Maybe they released a new one. 1714 01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm looking it up. 1715 01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:01,960 Speaker 2: Bike Baron is back, baby all right, Tray. Something mildly 1716 01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,880 Speaker 2: amusing at the time, but you barely remember it. 1717 01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:08,000 Speaker 4: Tiger King came out a year ago this week. The 1718 01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,360 Speaker 4: only thing I remember is that it starred Joe Exotic 1719 01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:14,400 Speaker 4: and Carol Baskin. What did they do? I don't know, literally, 1720 01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:17,000 Speaker 4: no idea. It was like the hottest show in the 1721 01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:22,840 Speaker 4: world for the month of March last year, basically and now, 1722 01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:24,720 Speaker 4: like I'll see a meme pop up every once in 1723 01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:28,720 Speaker 4: a while. I think Alex Wong recently posted the one 1724 01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:31,880 Speaker 4: where he's like, I'll never financially recover from this. 1725 01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:34,160 Speaker 2: What was that saying? 1726 01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:36,280 Speaker 4: But literally, what was that seeing? What was he not 1727 01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:40,400 Speaker 4: financially recovering from? Maybe the tiger biting the woman in 1728 01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:43,120 Speaker 4: the cage? I don't know. I don't know, but I 1729 01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:47,400 Speaker 4: was in. I watched the reunion special with Joel McHale. 1730 01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:51,360 Speaker 4: Joel McHale, Yeah from his bed, basically right, yeah, totally in. 1731 01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:53,519 Speaker 4: But what happened? Are they going to do a sequel 1732 01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,280 Speaker 4: Tiger and the Kings whatever? I don't know. I think 1733 01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:59,280 Speaker 4: the guy just got out, right, Joe Exotic, I think 1734 01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:02,760 Speaker 4: got out. He was expecting a big, big something or 1735 01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:05,000 Speaker 4: another big holabaloo for him getting out. He had a 1736 01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:08,120 Speaker 4: limo to take him home from jail. But yeah, he's 1737 01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:10,120 Speaker 4: still out there. Well, I guess he maybe we'll run 1738 01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:13,519 Speaker 4: for president again here and not too long so run 1739 01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:14,120 Speaker 4: it back. 1740 01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:16,920 Speaker 1: There was some crazy characters in that. Now I started 1741 01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:18,600 Speaker 1: like I forgot the both. You just remind me the 1742 01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:21,799 Speaker 1: woman that didn't have an arm because like a tiger 1743 01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:25,559 Speaker 1: ripped off for ar she still worked there. Loved it. 1744 01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,000 Speaker 2: Oh my god, she loved it too much. 1745 01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:29,800 Speaker 1: I think the guy like somebody gets shot in it, 1746 01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:31,879 Speaker 1: right suddenly, like it's really sad, right. 1747 01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:37,960 Speaker 4: Or no he kills kill kill l right, yeah King? 1748 01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:41,519 Speaker 2: That was that was that one of his h his partners, 1749 01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:42,280 Speaker 2: one of his letters. 1750 01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:44,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, yep. 1751 01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:48,000 Speaker 2: Because he went through a few, all right, uh something 1752 01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:51,760 Speaker 2: that a leg Somebody said, my god, he's got like 1753 01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:52,880 Speaker 2: bleached blonde hair. 1754 01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:53,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1755 01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:55,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a there's a lot of characters. 1756 01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:56,920 Speaker 1: Whole lot happened Tiger King. 1757 01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,800 Speaker 4: Remember at the time, like everyone's like, oh man, there's 1758 01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:00,840 Speaker 4: a going on on this. 1759 01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:05,120 Speaker 1: Yeah what happened though? H yeah, good point. I guess 1760 01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:09,639 Speaker 1: similar to JD. But I'm going much further back, mildly 1761 01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:11,400 Speaker 1: amusing at the time, but I barely remember it now. 1762 01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:15,160 Speaker 1: Rock band there was, you know, there was a summer 1763 01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:18,439 Speaker 1: of rock band. I'm convinced like everybody had one summer 1764 01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:20,400 Speaker 1: of rock band if you're old enough, where it was 1765 01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:23,240 Speaker 1: like the biggest game. Uh, and people are like bringing 1766 01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:26,920 Speaker 1: it to parties and bringing it to cottage weekends and 1767 01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,960 Speaker 1: everybody's loving it. And uh, you know you could get 1768 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,280 Speaker 1: the drum kit and ever along with the guitar and 1769 01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:35,719 Speaker 1: stuff like that. Yeah, but uh, you know what happened 1770 01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:37,920 Speaker 1: to that, just like it was gone, it was here 1771 01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:39,960 Speaker 1: and it was gone and it was it was a 1772 01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:44,240 Speaker 1: it lived a burned bright Yeah, that's my answer. 1773 01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:46,759 Speaker 4: You think if you plugged one in, Uh, if somebody 1774 01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:49,759 Speaker 4: had a garage a rock band and sit here, fired 1775 01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:51,760 Speaker 4: up play it, do you think you would have the 1776 01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:54,599 Speaker 4: muscle memory to be you know, like kill the solo 1777 01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:57,800 Speaker 4: and carry on my wayward son, Probably not. You're hitting 1778 01:22:57,800 --> 01:22:58,639 Speaker 4: the tremolo bar. 1779 01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:02,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. Somebody said Hero was always better. I mean the 1780 01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:04,800 Speaker 1: same thing you talking about. 1781 01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:10,040 Speaker 4: The guitar was the best part fun, But the guitar 1782 01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:11,080 Speaker 4: was the best part for sure. 1783 01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:14,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And the singing was always bogus. Remember like 1784 01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:16,320 Speaker 1: you didn't even need to sing the lyrics. You could 1785 01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,439 Speaker 1: just like sort of like hum along as long as 1786 01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:20,960 Speaker 1: you sort of like, I don't know, registered it at 1787 01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:23,640 Speaker 1: the right time. It felt like totally you could hit it. 1788 01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:24,200 Speaker 1: But it was fun. 1789 01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:26,760 Speaker 4: I remember when the Beatles one came out. I was 1790 01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:28,880 Speaker 4: so excited for that one, and they always would give 1791 01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,000 Speaker 4: you if you're the singer, they give you bonus points 1792 01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:36,559 Speaker 4: for like ad libbing during certain So every time, every 1793 01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:37,720 Speaker 4: time there was an ad lib in that one, I 1794 01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:44,040 Speaker 4: would just say the batel the beatels. 1795 01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:49,280 Speaker 1: I think I just was reminded of it too, because 1796 01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:52,639 Speaker 1: there's probably like a house of highlights Instagram where it's 1797 01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,360 Speaker 1: like just showing people doing crazy things, like people doing 1798 01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:57,840 Speaker 1: Rubik's cubes like blindfold and st all of that. And 1799 01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:02,000 Speaker 1: there's one where like the like just shredding. I think 1800 01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:05,160 Speaker 1: it's Guitar Hero, like the toughest level at one hundred 1801 01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:07,840 Speaker 1: and fifty speed or whatever it is, and it is 1802 01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:11,400 Speaker 1: like there's like just's like girlfriend just sitting right beside him, 1803 01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:13,920 Speaker 1: like he obviosly does this all the time. She seems 1804 01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:16,040 Speaker 1: to be like I guess they're live streaming or on 1805 01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:19,519 Speaker 1: Twitter something. He's just like going crazy, like, oh, the 1806 01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:21,880 Speaker 1: hand was a full conversation. 1807 01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,920 Speaker 5: Just learned the guitar man at that point, right, you 1808 01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:26,960 Speaker 5: go to guitar haven't your. 1809 01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:27,840 Speaker 3: Name to me? 1810 01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:28,639 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1811 01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:31,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know. No, don't worry, I'm not getting 1812 01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:35,200 Speaker 1: back into rock band or guitar. But you do ever 1813 01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:37,840 Speaker 1: hear like the song, like on the radio, You'll hear 1814 01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:40,280 Speaker 1: a song you're like, oh, it does take you back 1815 01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:42,760 Speaker 1: to guitar hero or rock band. You're like, oh, yeah, 1816 01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:43,360 Speaker 1: this is great. 1817 01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,840 Speaker 4: I killed this Red Red Blue, Redd Red. 1818 01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:48,599 Speaker 1: Oh it's so good. 1819 01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:51,040 Speaker 2: Last one here, I'll take you back one year. We 1820 01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:53,599 Speaker 2: just passed the one year anniversary of the league shutdown 1821 01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:56,960 Speaker 2: due to the pandemic. On March eleventh, twenty twenty, the 1822 01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:59,760 Speaker 2: jazz is Rudy Gobert tested positive for COVID nineteen just 1823 01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:02,840 Speaker 2: after touching. Reporters Mike's making a joke of it and 1824 01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:06,960 Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell didn't talk to Rudy for weeks. Remember that 1825 01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:11,599 Speaker 2: things seemed unsalvagable in Utah. Now they're first in the West. 1826 01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,400 Speaker 2: And in an article on the Athletic this week, Mitchell said, 1827 01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,240 Speaker 2: you look at the level that guys are playing at now, 1828 01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:21,040 Speaker 2: that is a product of that drama. All right, when's 1829 01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:24,000 Speaker 2: the time you were part of a similar turnaround? JD. 1830 01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:30,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, I came into this show horribly unprepared, and 1831 01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:36,080 Speaker 5: I managed to squeak out the first two answers. But 1832 01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:38,960 Speaker 5: I and I was working on this answer. But I'm 1833 01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:41,240 Speaker 5: I'm sorry task, but I'm going off the board here 1834 01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:45,080 Speaker 5: because I want to go through a bunch of headbands 1835 01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:49,200 Speaker 5: that I've been staring at. Lee He's got if you're listening, 1836 01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:52,479 Speaker 5: he's got a mcgyverd. His headphones fell apart, and he's 1837 01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:56,320 Speaker 5: using a little strap of something. So I just want 1838 01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:58,759 Speaker 5: to go through maybe a little top five of sorts 1839 01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,680 Speaker 5: of uh okay, yeah, well head head bands that it 1840 01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:07,479 Speaker 5: reminded me of number five, Johnny Lawrence that Cobra Kai 1841 01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:14,519 Speaker 5: speaking of. Uh. Number four is Tebob Gee. It was 1842 01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:16,280 Speaker 5: a great character from the Royal Tannemon. 1843 01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:17,959 Speaker 4: Of course there's. 1844 01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:22,559 Speaker 5: Uh Olivia Newton John I like it. Yeah, So I 1845 01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:26,680 Speaker 5: was looking for something that matched the the thinness of it, 1846 01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:28,920 Speaker 5: and I was like, where have I seen that before? 1847 01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:34,760 Speaker 5: And then Boogie Knights, Markler. 1848 01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:38,080 Speaker 4: Got danglar hanging off the side. 1849 01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:41,880 Speaker 5: And then number one. This is a deep cut, but 1850 01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:45,840 Speaker 5: it reminded me of this. It's from Staying Alive. It's 1851 01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:49,679 Speaker 5: uh Tony Manero and his dancing partner from Staying Alive. 1852 01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:52,919 Speaker 5: I can't remember the character's name, so it's John Travolta. 1853 01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,360 Speaker 5: You think her name might have been Jackie or Fiona 1854 01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:58,760 Speaker 5: or something. But uh, anyway, shout out to your headband 1855 01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,519 Speaker 5: and shout out to your headphone, and I apologize tests 1856 01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:02,320 Speaker 5: I did not happen. 1857 01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:08,040 Speaker 2: Well, JD. The thing that you that seemed unsoligible for 1858 01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:14,479 Speaker 2: you is that rivet. There's a frog in there. Yeah, 1859 01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:16,880 Speaker 2: the thing that was unsalvagible seemed ineligible for you is 1860 01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:18,760 Speaker 2: the start of the show. Things not looking good. But 1861 01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:20,400 Speaker 2: then I just turned it around. 1862 01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:24,040 Speaker 5: Wow, well we'll see, we'll find out. Yeah, we'll find out. 1863 01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:26,320 Speaker 2: Uh, tray, where do you got? 1864 01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:28,720 Speaker 4: Oh? The Bulls being back is by part of my 1865 01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:30,839 Speaker 4: favorite comeback of recent times. 1866 01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:31,800 Speaker 1: It's become a meme. 1867 01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:34,519 Speaker 4: Guys, I say it. But the Bulls started hing three 1868 01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:36,880 Speaker 4: this year. I was sad, very sad. The year turned 1869 01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:39,479 Speaker 4: to twenty twenty one, though, I said, time to change 1870 01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:42,960 Speaker 4: your face, be happy, pure positivity, and the Bulls are 1871 01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:45,800 Speaker 4: good now they're at least good, and it's been a 1872 01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:49,200 Speaker 4: long time since they've been relevant. I started working with 1873 01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:53,120 Speaker 4: y'all right before the twenty ten season. Great season for 1874 01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:56,240 Speaker 4: the Bulls. Made it to the Eastern Conference finals, then 1875 01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:59,479 Speaker 4: moved up to Toronto twenty eleven. Skeets, you remember we 1876 01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:01,519 Speaker 4: saw dar grows blow out his knee for the very 1877 01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:05,559 Speaker 4: first time at my place. Very sad. So I'm actually 1878 01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:08,759 Speaker 4: grateful though that the Bulls are finally at least trying 1879 01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:12,599 Speaker 4: to get back into the playoff picture here because Isla 1880 01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:16,160 Speaker 4: is six years old, which is how old I was 1881 01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:18,200 Speaker 4: when the Bulls won their first title. So I know 1882 01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:22,360 Speaker 4: that she's gonna remember stuff about this Bulls season somewhere 1883 01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:24,559 Speaker 4: sometime in the future for her. So I'm happy that 1884 01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:26,559 Speaker 4: I can at least tell her about good things that 1885 01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:29,760 Speaker 4: are happening in with Chicago rather than a bad season. Yeah, 1886 01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:33,240 Speaker 4: that's right, that's a little vulnerability for you there. I'm 1887 01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,200 Speaker 4: in it for my kids, man. I love the Bulls 1888 01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:37,200 Speaker 4: being back from a little babies. 1889 01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:40,439 Speaker 2: Skeats. What do you got? 1890 01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:45,240 Speaker 1: I would say this show, you know similar turnaround because 1891 01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:48,400 Speaker 1: I was just on the Douce and Mo podcast the 1892 01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,640 Speaker 1: other day. Show out to those guys. They are a 1893 01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:52,280 Speaker 1: lot of fun and I had a blast talking to 1894 01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,639 Speaker 1: them either based in Sacramento. They talk about the Kings 1895 01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:58,040 Speaker 1: unfortunately a lot. They got excited like I did about 1896 01:28:58,040 --> 01:28:59,920 Speaker 1: the Kings early in the season, and they've fallen back 1897 01:28:59,920 --> 01:29:02,760 Speaker 1: to earth. But next one last night. But anyway, I 1898 01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:05,559 Speaker 1: was asked. Deuce asked me, you know, like back in 1899 01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:07,439 Speaker 1: the day, did you guys, you know you were grinding 1900 01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:09,360 Speaker 1: those first four years not getting paid doing the show 1901 01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:11,040 Speaker 1: when we were the Basketball Jones, did you ever think 1902 01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,040 Speaker 1: of quitting? And I was like, oh my god, we 1903 01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,320 Speaker 1: thought it stopping all the time, like what are we 1904 01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:17,200 Speaker 1: doing here, We're not making a buck off this, you know, 1905 01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:20,920 Speaker 1: numbers are low, blah blah blah. But fortunately, I said, 1906 01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:23,559 Speaker 1: there was always somebody in the mix, you know, when 1907 01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:25,439 Speaker 1: it was just task, JD and I, that was always 1908 01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:28,160 Speaker 1: like no, no, no, you know, let's let's keep riding 1909 01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:30,200 Speaker 1: this out. It's good, it's going to click. Somebody's gonna 1910 01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:31,639 Speaker 1: see it, the right person's gonna see it. We're gonna 1911 01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:35,320 Speaker 1: turn this into a profession. And just luckily not all 1912 01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:37,479 Speaker 1: three of us were like on the same down, you 1913 01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:40,240 Speaker 1: know what I mean, on that on that wave, there 1914 01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:42,720 Speaker 1: was always someone positive peat and you needed that of 1915 01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:44,639 Speaker 1: the three. So I would say that a big turnaround. 1916 01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:48,000 Speaker 1: And if we had ever been all on that like, uh, 1917 01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:49,920 Speaker 1: there's a lot of work, we're not getting paid, what 1918 01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:51,719 Speaker 1: are we doing, well, then we probably would have stopped 1919 01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:54,679 Speaker 1: the show. But let's believe we weren't kept it positive 1920 01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:58,360 Speaker 1: back then, even trace SnO and eight two thousand and nine. 1921 01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:01,599 Speaker 1: Let's call it so yeah, but that would be my answer. 1922 01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:03,600 Speaker 1: What a turnaround? Look at us now, just back to 1923 01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:11,040 Speaker 1: podcasting like we were on. We went from Skype to streamyard, Baby, 1924 01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:12,480 Speaker 1: from Skype. 1925 01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:16,880 Speaker 4: To stream yard. Fifteen years of basketball jokes with your buds. 1926 01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:17,439 Speaker 1: There it is. 1927 01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:19,719 Speaker 2: There's the title of the book. 1928 01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:22,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. So that is rappid Fire. That's 1929 01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:25,080 Speaker 1: the Drop podcast. That was a long one, talking a 1930 01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:27,000 Speaker 1: lot of Hall of Fame, getting to the games. Worst 1931 01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:28,840 Speaker 1: of the week. But thank you so much for joining us, 1932 01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:32,360 Speaker 1: especially you people in the stream team right now, special 1933 01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:35,799 Speaker 1: shout out to you. Like comments, subscribe to No Dunks 1934 01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:39,120 Speaker 1: on YouTube, leave your five star ratings and reviews. If 1935 01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:41,960 Speaker 1: you listen to the podcast on Apple podcasts, you know, 1936 01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:44,040 Speaker 1: jump the gun, get ahead of the curve. There for 1937 01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:48,160 Speaker 1: five star Friday. When we get into April, new Ish, 1938 01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:50,840 Speaker 1: No Dunks items available at No dunks dot com. We 1939 01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:52,680 Speaker 1: got the big beef shirt. Tray was showing it off 1940 01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:55,519 Speaker 1: on our Instagram account yesterday. You're just boxing out everything. 1941 01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:57,400 Speaker 4: When you got a box shot, you put on that 1942 01:30:57,479 --> 01:30:59,360 Speaker 4: shirt and instantly you just want to put a body 1943 01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:02,519 Speaker 4: on somebody or something, doesn't matter what it is. Back 1944 01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:05,599 Speaker 4: in the college days, every year we would have box 1945 01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:07,840 Speaker 4: out Week where it was just trying to catch your 1946 01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:10,880 Speaker 4: friends off guard with a serious box out, you know, 1947 01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:13,639 Speaker 4: really getting that center of gravity low into your buddy's 1948 01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:15,000 Speaker 4: legs and pushing them out of the way at the 1949 01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:15,679 Speaker 4: omelet station. 1950 01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:18,240 Speaker 1: So okay, well, I mean imagine we have the starts 1951 01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:20,080 Speaker 1: back town beef. Yeah, exactly. So you can get a 1952 01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:21,920 Speaker 1: big beef shirt. We got the top shot hop boy shirt. 1953 01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:23,680 Speaker 1: We got a bunch of No Ducks items. So go 1954 01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:25,720 Speaker 1: to hoodies and T shirts and shorts and mugs, go 1955 01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:27,479 Speaker 1: to No Dunks dot com. Rep the brand and treat 1956 01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:29,320 Speaker 1: yourself to an athletic subscription. Go to the Athletic dot 1957 01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:31,120 Speaker 1: com slash No Dunks. You can sign up for still 1958 01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:34,719 Speaker 1: just three ninety nine a month for the best sports 1959 01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:38,720 Speaker 1: writing in the world. Yeah, you've heard me. It's incredible 1960 01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:43,080 Speaker 1: just the amount of talent that the athletic has with 1961 01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:46,280 Speaker 1: the written word. They don't need grammarly these people, I'll 1962 01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:48,679 Speaker 1: tell you that they're just experts, all of these reporters 1963 01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:50,759 Speaker 1: and writers. So go get that Athletic dot Com slash 1964 01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:52,760 Speaker 1: no dunk, so they know that we sent you. All Right, Trey, 1965 01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:54,559 Speaker 1: You're off next week, my man, that's right. 1966 01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:58,760 Speaker 4: I'm out of here. Lips hopefully, I mean, hopefully I 1967 01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:01,360 Speaker 4: can rip some lips. Rented a house that we're driving 1968 01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:03,920 Speaker 4: to in Florida, So I mean the the main draw 1969 01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:06,800 Speaker 4: for us is a private, heated pool. Girls want to 1970 01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:11,960 Speaker 4: get some swimming in. So yeah, Seaball season starts tomorrow, tomorrow, 1971 01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:12,880 Speaker 4: you're heading tomorrow. 1972 01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:14,639 Speaker 1: Look at this kind I love it. Okay, so we'll 1973 01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:18,720 Speaker 1: we'll unless something crazy happens. H you take that week off, 1974 01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:21,120 Speaker 1: you enjoy your time off in the pool, get your 1975 01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:22,080 Speaker 1: get your laps in. 1976 01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:26,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna come back with some jacks shoulders, and 1977 01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:29,160 Speaker 4: you best believe those skeets. I'm taking this here laptop, 1978 01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:33,120 Speaker 4: this orange microphone. Somebody grabs twenty rebounds. It doesn't matter 1979 01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:36,360 Speaker 4: where I'm at while the beef's flying off the shelves. 1980 01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:38,439 Speaker 1: How many how many big beefs will there be while 1981 01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:41,479 Speaker 1: you're away on vacation? How many times too? 1982 01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:43,799 Speaker 4: Two beefs? Yeah, two beefs. 1983 01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:46,760 Speaker 1: Okay? Well yeah, people are saying you're in, You're going 1984 01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:49,040 Speaker 1: to Florida. Please stay safe out there. Yeah, just yase 1985 01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:51,599 Speaker 1: I leave his compound or whatever his place's house. 1986 01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:53,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm planning. I'm not seeing anyone else. 1987 01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:55,120 Speaker 2: All right. 1988 01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:57,080 Speaker 1: We'll enjoy your time off, Tessy. I know you'll be 1989 01:32:57,160 --> 01:32:59,120 Speaker 1: jumping on for a lot more of the daily podcast 1990 01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:01,120 Speaker 1: along with what you need to know. So guys, subscribe 1991 01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:05,760 Speaker 1: to us on whatever podcasts feeder platform I guess you use, 1992 01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:09,320 Speaker 1: and make sure you subscribe again on No Dunks YouTube channel. 1993 01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:10,400 Speaker 1: Clipper Bros. 1994 01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:13,280 Speaker 4: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up, 1995 01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:14,719 Speaker 4: love you guys. Awesome. 1996 01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:19,200 Speaker 2: This is a this is a bit deep and no 1997 01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:22,479 Speaker 2: dunks the starter's lore. But for those two beefs that 1998 01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:26,040 Speaker 2: are grabbed, we're gonna name him Beefy and beef Is 1999 01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:27,280 Speaker 2: that what their names are? 2000 01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:29,360 Speaker 1: Is that right? 2001 01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:31,880 Speaker 3: That's correct? Very good, good memory. 2002 01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:34,280 Speaker 1: We will show you that photo on Monday, so that 2003 01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:37,720 Speaker 1: all makes sense for everybody to embrace the weekend people. 2004 01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:42,000 Speaker 2: Usday every day. 2005 01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:50,160 Speaker 1: And Dan you happy every naming. It's been so long 2006 01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:58,400 Speaker 1: with your mona way, it's gonna be goody