Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, I'm back.
Speaker 2: I'm black today, I'm about myself, but I'm still black
Speaker 2: and brown ambition ambition and Bisha d ambition the ambition.
Speaker 1: Hey hey, hey, ba fan, It's me Tiffany the Bundanista.
Speaker 2: I'm here by myself and the stew today because our
Speaker 2: good friend Mandra has baby. Things are bruin. Depending on
Speaker 2: when you listen to this. She had the baby, is
Speaker 2: about to have the baby something something baby related. Actually,
Speaker 2: just came back from Mandy's baby shower yesterday. It was
Speaker 2: really cute she had in the park, so she's doing well.
Speaker 2: But she kind of had an impromptu thing she had
Speaker 2: to do baby related today, so y'all just get me
Speaker 2: in the stew.
Speaker 1: So I was like, well, I'm gonna rogue.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I figured we would talk about two different things. Thing one.
Speaker 2: First half of podcast today, we're gonna talk about money
Speaker 2: and relationships.
Speaker 1: Mmm.
Speaker 2: I know y'all heard about the Ebony K. Williams and
Speaker 2: Ayaan La von Zant's interview. We gonna talk about it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you what I think and I want
Speaker 2: to know what you think. Second half of today's podcast,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk business.
Speaker 1: So many of you.
Speaker 2: Guys ask me the same questions about business, you know,
Speaker 2: and how I've been able to grow my business, and
Speaker 2: so I figured, I give you a little peek behind
Speaker 2: the curtain. How does that sound cute?
Speaker 1: Great?
Speaker 2: So let's get started. It feels weird not to say, hey, man,
Speaker 2: jer your curls was pop it. I'm like, I have
Speaker 2: to just be pop it on my own today. Can
Speaker 2: we just get into if you're walking on YouTube, which
Speaker 2: you ought to this like hot pink sweater that I'm wearing,
Speaker 2: it's popp it.
Speaker 1: It's not okay.
Speaker 2: So unless you've been living under a rock or all
Speaker 2: social which is probably good for your mental health, you
Speaker 2: probably heard about this interview. I guess it was an
Speaker 2: interview with Ebony K. Williams, who's attorney. She also, I
Speaker 2: think is the first black woman on the Real Housewives
Speaker 2: of New York that you know, that franchise.
Speaker 1: She also has, like I think she like hosts the show.
Speaker 2: So Ebanie is very successful, beautiful black woman. And I
Speaker 2: don't know if she was interviewing I'm Leanla on her show,
Speaker 2: but they were talking about relationships and the gist I
Speaker 2: watched the interview.
Speaker 1: The gist that I got that ebony, I believe who
Speaker 1: is forty?
Speaker 2: But girl child, don't look a day over thirty two
Speaker 2: because black don't want correct. So Ebanie was talking about
Speaker 2: how she kind of told herself if by forty she
Speaker 2: was not married and didn't have children, that she would
Speaker 2: reconsider her dating criteria. And I don't know if every
Speaker 2: Ebony has ever been married or had children, you know,
Speaker 2: but that's what she was talking about. And so Ayanla
Speaker 2: was like listening to her talk and share you know
Speaker 2: that you know, she does design your partnership like so
Speaker 2: many of us do, and there's nothing wrong with that,
Speaker 2: just like it's nothing wrong with not desiring partnership, but
Speaker 2: that she did desire partnership, and she wanted to kind
Speaker 2: of rethink how she thought about the type.
Speaker 1: Of men that she would be open to relationship with.
Speaker 2: And so Ayana listened, and Ayana asked her the now
Speaker 2: infamous question, would you date a bus driver? And Ebdey
Speaker 2: looked surprised, as you know, you know, I think that
Speaker 2: many people would be and Abdey said, she started stuttering
Speaker 2: a little bit and she said does he own the bus?
Speaker 2: And Ayana said, see that's the problem right there, that
Speaker 2: you would not be open to dating a bus driver,
Speaker 2: And basically the underlying sentiment is and that's why you
Speaker 2: ain't got nobody. That was the under like sentiment. And
Speaker 2: so I wanted to talk about that. I wanted to
Speaker 2: talk about dating and money and finances and what you
Speaker 2: should consider or what you do you consider and what
Speaker 2: I think and just like the dynamic of what happened
Speaker 2: in that conversation and how it has divided the interwebs.
Speaker 2: You know, there's some girlies and men who are like,
Speaker 2: you know, hey, black women, you know, you should be
Speaker 2: open to dating whomever, whatever. And there's some girlies who
Speaker 2: are like, I have my standards. I will not settle,
Speaker 2: even if that means being alone, you know, if that's
Speaker 2: my choice. And so I'm curious be a fan, you know,
Speaker 2: if you want to tweet us at the BA pod
Speaker 2: cast on Twitter or hit us up on you know,
Speaker 2: ig Brown a Vision podcast, or me the Budgetnista on
Speaker 2: Instagram and Twitter. I'm curious on your thoughts about what
Speaker 2: you thought about one that question, because some of the
Speaker 2: pushback that I saw that the women were saying were like,
Speaker 2: why is it that black women get asked this question
Speaker 2: that I do not see specifically American black women. I
Speaker 2: do not see this question asked of Latino women. I
Speaker 2: do not to this question asked of white women. Why
Speaker 2: isn't that black women get asked this question? So and
Speaker 2: so I'm going to give you my take, and I'm
Speaker 2: just interested in what your take is. And here's here,
Speaker 2: I'm one of the caveat here is you're grown, do
Speaker 2: what you want to do. It's your ooh, you know what, Mandy,
Speaker 2: girl about to go wrong?
Speaker 1: Girl? You right here, I don't even have.
Speaker 2: A person in the stew So we're about to just
Speaker 2: do all straight budgeties to sound.
Speaker 1: It's my prerogative. You do what you want to do.
Speaker 1: It's my prerogative. And say what you want to say.
Speaker 2: Name that artist. I'll give you two seconds. One two,
Speaker 2: Bobby Brown. Some of y'all not somebody y'all too young,
Speaker 2: y'all don't even know my prerogative prerogative meaning is your
Speaker 2: business right?
Speaker 1: So this is this is my belief.
Speaker 2: My belief is, girl, do what you want to do,
Speaker 2: with who you want to do it, as long as
Speaker 2: it's consenting. Now, do I kind of have issue with
Speaker 2: you know, like the question of would you date a
Speaker 2: bus driver? I mean I guess I was trying to
Speaker 2: see what Auntie Ianla was saying.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I have issue with it.
Speaker 2: I guess it's a question that can be asked, and
Speaker 2: certainly Ebony could have said, I prefer I think that
Speaker 2: question is not one that I'm interested in answering. Certainly
Speaker 2: she could draw that boundary. But I will say this
Speaker 2: as someone who quote unquotem trying to figure out how
Speaker 2: to say it, because I want to be respectful of
Speaker 2: my late husband, Jerrelle Smith, as someone who married someone
Speaker 2: who made significantly less and would be quote unquote the
Speaker 2: bus driver in this situation.
Speaker 1: I can see both sides.
Speaker 2: I can understand why any woman, black or otherwise is
Speaker 2: looking for a partner that makes as much as she
Speaker 2: does and more. I can totally understand that because who
Speaker 2: you marry dictates so much about your life. You know,
Speaker 2: I can understand a woman wanting a man that's going
Speaker 2: to provide for her and the potential future family financially.
Speaker 2: I can understand, you know, the safety and the security
Speaker 2: that's desired from such a union.
Speaker 1: I can understand all that you know.
Speaker 2: And so I'm not saying that you should not have
Speaker 2: some criteria about I want my person to make a
Speaker 2: certain amount of money if that's what you need. So
Speaker 2: when I was looking for partnership, I had a long list,
Speaker 2: as many of us do. And first of all, I
Speaker 2: had a friend who was like, she's good, but she's
Speaker 2: an awesome friend. And I remember I was thirty four
Speaker 2: and the Budgetessa was just trying to take off a
Speaker 2: little bit.
Speaker 1: I think it was making six figures a year. The business,
Speaker 1: not Tiffany.
Speaker 2: And I kind of looked around my life and then said,
Speaker 2: the Budgetese has taken off, but I'm kind of coming
Speaker 2: home to myself.
Speaker 1: By myself. I was dating, but nothing serious, you know.
Speaker 2: And I just remember thinking, I desire partnership, like and
Speaker 2: by partnership, I want to get married.
Speaker 1: I want to have some kids.
Speaker 2: You know. Well I wasn't one hundred percent sure about
Speaker 2: the kids, but I knew I wanted to get married.
Speaker 2: I wanted to be at the very least in a committed,
Speaker 2: loving relationship, supportive relationship.
Speaker 1: So I made this.
Speaker 2: Long list, and I was telling one of my friends
Speaker 2: and she asked me what was on the list.
Speaker 1: She was like a dating coach, and she said, Tiffany,
Speaker 1: you not half this stuff. I said, ooh, the shade.
Speaker 2: But she was right that like some of the things
Speaker 2: I had on the list, I was not, and so
Speaker 2: I worked on those things. So some of the things
Speaker 2: like I wasn't all that patient, but I worked out
Speaker 2: being more patient. I wanted a good communicator, and Lord knows, child,
Speaker 2: I was not a good communicator. I came from a
Speaker 2: Nigerian background where the communication was you do what I
Speaker 2: say and you be quiet about it and put a
Speaker 2: smile on your face.
Speaker 1: So I was not a good communicator.
Speaker 2: And so there were things on my list that was
Speaker 2: like that good communication, kindness, integrity, thoughtfulness, supportiveness.
Speaker 1: But I also had you know docs, the lawyer, you know,
Speaker 1: multiple six figures. I had all these things on my list.
Speaker 2: Some of the things I were and some of the
Speaker 2: things I weren't, and some of the things that I
Speaker 2: wasn't I started to work on being. And most of
Speaker 2: those things that I wasn't were like internal work things.
Speaker 1: You know. So I was like, okay, dually noted.
Speaker 2: But then as I started to like really kind of
Speaker 2: look through some of the guys that you know, I
Speaker 2: dated in the past, one name kept coming up for
Speaker 2: the things that actually meant the most, like for me,
Speaker 2: you know, the things that made the most And because
Speaker 2: I'd dated Jerrell briefly in the past and at the
Speaker 2: time he really wanted to get serious. But I was
Speaker 2: literally just starting the budgeanista, and I was like, I
Speaker 2: can't do both. The budgetista is my baby, so I
Speaker 2: couldn't do both. So it just didn't work out because
Speaker 2: I didn't have the capacity to start this, you know,
Speaker 2: budding relationship and then also this budding business and I
Speaker 2: chose the business. And I'm not sad about choosing the business,
Speaker 2: you know. So but as I was kind of thinking
Speaker 2: about moving forward about dating again, I thought like Jarrell
Speaker 2: kept coming up, like he was like super sweet, kind
Speaker 2: and funny and supportive. But Terrell worked for Newark Housing
Speaker 2: Authority at the time. It's maintenance and I was like,
Speaker 2: I as a Nigerian girl with her masters and her
Speaker 2: bachelor's and you know, parents who like want of the
Speaker 2: world for me.
Speaker 1: I felt like, I don't know none.
Speaker 2: I said enough, I'm being candid, and so we dated,
Speaker 2: but I definitely had if I'm being candid, the first
Speaker 2: year year and a half of dating Darrell, I had
Speaker 2: one foot in, one foot out because I was waiting
Speaker 2: on my lawyer, doctor, engineer, accountant, physicists something. You know.
Speaker 2: I was kind of waiting on that, and Durell just
Speaker 2: kept getting better and better. Like he was already super kind,
Speaker 2: so supportive, but not just kind to me.
Speaker 1: He was kind to everybody.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: He used to feed the neighborhood.
Speaker 2: Kids on Fridays with pizza Fridays, you know, like he
Speaker 2: would like fix them their bikes. I mean they would
Speaker 2: be knocking on our back door. After I eventually moved
Speaker 2: in with him, you know, mister Darell said I could
Speaker 2: get dinner, missus Darel said, y'all got cookies. Mister drama, Well,
Speaker 2: mister draw is giving us giving away everything in this house,
Speaker 2: but not just that, all the elderly people. He would
Speaker 2: make his rounds because we used to live like where
Speaker 2: we were. He worked for housing and like it was
Speaker 2: this cute little like townhouse, and so he had to
Speaker 2: live on campus basically, and so he would make his rounds.
Speaker 1: That had nothing to do with his job.
Speaker 2: There were just elderly people who lived alone, and he
Speaker 2: would make his rounds. Make sure missus such and such
Speaker 2: eight today, mister such and such, you know, his garbage
Speaker 2: was taken down that was him, and I remember like
Speaker 2: the pivotal.
Speaker 1: Moment when I was still one foot in, one foot.
Speaker 2: Out, like this is cute today, but girl, I don't
Speaker 2: even know that's a lawyer such figures because drum may
Speaker 2: never made over sixty thousand. I just remember that there
Speaker 2: was this pivotal moment when I forget what happened. I
Speaker 2: just remember the shift in me that there was something
Speaker 2: that I had done that wasn't the best, you know,
Speaker 2: like I can't remember or maybe I said something or whatever,
Speaker 2: and like Jarrell was accepting of me as I was
Speaker 2: in that moment, you know, like oh, you know what
Speaker 2: it was. I think we had our first real argument,
Speaker 2: you know, and I wasn't a great communicator. I'm the
Speaker 2: type of that I'm gonna play some sad music, the
Speaker 2: song back to back to back, I'm gonna walk around
Speaker 2: mopen and I'm gonna ignore you, and I'm not going
Speaker 2: to talk about it like an adult. I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: be like, you should know how I'm feeling. And I
Speaker 2: remember him coming up to me and being like it's
Speaker 2: obviously you're upset. Do you want to talk about it?
Speaker 2: And I was like no, and him walking me through
Speaker 2: what it looked like to communicate like a grown person.
Speaker 2: And I remember in that moment thinking, this man accepts
Speaker 2: you as you are, with all the stuff that you
Speaker 2: come with, bossiness, not able to communicate yet you know,
Speaker 2: not in a way that's healthy, you know, and that's helpful,
Speaker 2: you know, always working, just like I was acting like
Speaker 2: I came with everything to the table and that he
Speaker 2: was coming with nothing to the table, and that wasn't true.
Speaker 2: And it was in that moment I thought, Wow, he
Speaker 2: accepts you as you are, Tiffany, as imperfectly as you are.
Speaker 2: And if you cannot accept him as he is, which
Speaker 2: is fine. If you're wanting doctor, lawyer, engineer, pharmacist, then
Speaker 2: you ought to go sist and get you one of
Speaker 2: them and let somebody else get this good man. I
Speaker 2: remember thinking that, like, if that's what you're wanting, go
Speaker 2: get that and let somebody else have this amazing man.
Speaker 2: Don't have him like you halfway in, halfway out. Either
Speaker 2: be in or be out. I felt like a black
Speaker 2: mama when it comes to the summer time. Is you
Speaker 2: in or is you out? You let my cold air
Speaker 2: out right, And so I remember that I was like Tiffany.
Speaker 1: I'm in.
Speaker 2: I love him, and of all the things that are
Speaker 2: necessary for me, I was like, I wanted somebody who
Speaker 2: is intrinsically kind, kind because they're kind, not just kind
Speaker 2: of me because you love me, because one day I'm
Speaker 2: gonna get on your nerves how you're gonna treat me.
Speaker 2: I wanted somebody who is thoughtful and supportive because I
Speaker 2: need to be one hundred percent myself. I was a
Speaker 2: worker hard that time, and I knew I needed somebody
Speaker 2: who was going to be supportive of the fact that, like,
Speaker 2: I have this big, big, big dream because I had
Speaker 2: boyfriends in the past that were not and I wanted
Speaker 2: somebody who was obviously like loyal and somebody who was
Speaker 2: able to communicate because I wasn't the greatest at that
Speaker 2: I had a list of things that meant the most,
Speaker 2: like need to have, and then I had some like
Speaker 2: to have, and like to have was you know, six figures.
Speaker 2: Derreal did not have his college degree, but college degree
Speaker 2: there were certain things that if I really broke down
Speaker 2: that it was this. It wasn't things I did not want.
Speaker 2: These were things I'd like to have, but these need
Speaker 2: to have. He over indexed on those need to haves
Speaker 2: of how I needed my partner to show up for me.
Speaker 2: He over indexed on those things, and I thought, is
Speaker 2: it settling or is it compromising? I mean, now, like
Speaker 2: fast forward now forty three years old, you know, with
Speaker 2: him like for like ten years, I know absolutely I
Speaker 2: did not settle. Was an amazing, amazing, amazing boyfriend and
Speaker 2: even better husband. I didn't think have to get better.
Speaker 2: After we got married, he turned it up a notch,
Speaker 2: you know. And so so I'm not here to say,
Speaker 2: you know what you ought to choose. But what I
Speaker 2: am here to say is, if I'm being honest, a
Speaker 2: lot of those want to have doctor, lawyer, six figure
Speaker 2: plus whatever weren't really my choices. Is what the people
Speaker 2: gonna say, you know, the people, mama, daddy, sister, brother, cousin,
Speaker 2: social media, friend circle, church, What the people gonna say?
Speaker 2: And if I really looked at what Tiffany wanted and needed,
Speaker 2: like that's what I got in Jirell, And certainly the
Speaker 2: people had things to say. My parents were not like, Yay,
Speaker 2: you're marrying somebody who doesn't have a college degree.
Speaker 1: It's not as making as much as you. They weren't.
Speaker 1: They were not happy about it.
Speaker 2: At first, and then they got to know Jerrealm and
Speaker 2: then like because if you just knew him, honestly, there
Speaker 2: are some people they're just too good for this earth.
Speaker 2: And I'm not just watching poetic because he's not here.
Speaker 2: Everybody like this is this is what if you meet
Speaker 2: anybody that knows him or knew him. This is just
Speaker 2: the like he wasn't just like he just was not
Speaker 2: like regular people. He just navigated from the space of
Speaker 2: like service and giving acts of service was like his.
Speaker 1: Number one love language.
Speaker 2: I can remember, like my parents, like I said, you
Speaker 2: know Nigerian, all of us have all my sisters and
Speaker 2: I have our college degrees, three of us have our masters.
Speaker 2: One of my sisters is married to a doctor, and
Speaker 2: so like I just they were just you know, they
Speaker 2: were disappointed quote unquote in me, and I can understand why.
Speaker 2: And when I first introduced him to Jirell, my parents
Speaker 2: were like, okay, you know, they were nice enough.
Speaker 1: They called me back to the house the next day
Speaker 1: and we're like, what is going on.
Speaker 2: He seemed like a nice guy, but girl, now plus
Speaker 2: two two, Jirell had a daughter, which I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god.
Speaker 1: My dad was like, what have we done wrong? Where
Speaker 1: do we go wrong? With Tiffany?
Speaker 2: And I can under that, although I was mad because
Speaker 2: I felt like they weren't as warm to him as
Speaker 2: they were to like my doctor brother in law. And
Speaker 2: over time, Jarrell won them over. And I remember because
Speaker 2: he see it was on some old you better than me,
Speaker 2: That's what I told Drew. I said, we ain't got
Speaker 2: to go back to my parents' house. You better than me.
Speaker 2: They're not gonna treat me different. And when black people
Speaker 2: say you better than me, they indeed me and you
Speaker 2: are not better than me here. But Jirell was determined
Speaker 2: to win them over. And I remember being like why
Speaker 2: and he said, Tiffany, I understand I have a daughter too,
Speaker 2: And I was like, wait what. I remember when he
Speaker 2: told me that, because I was like, I'm so sorry
Speaker 2: my parents are you're not you know, they're cordial, but
Speaker 2: they're not as nice to you. And he was like, Tiffany,
Speaker 2: I have a daughter too. I know what it looks
Speaker 2: like on the outside. I know what your dad sees
Speaker 2: when he sees me, and I get it. I want
Speaker 2: my daughter to be with the best possible and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna show them that, like you know that. I am
Speaker 2: going to look after their daughter. I am going to
Speaker 2: be here and pour into her and love on her, you.
Speaker 1: Know, and he did.
Speaker 2: I remember the first time they kind of clicked to them,
Speaker 2: like one of my friends Linda, something happened in her house,
Speaker 2: like Jarrell's super.
Speaker 1: Handy, that's what he did for work.
Speaker 2: And Linda's mother, my Auntie Esther, is really good friends
Speaker 2: with my mother. They have like they're in the same
Speaker 2: prayer group, the same like friend group. And Linda used
Speaker 2: to call Jarell brother Darrell, and he would call her
Speaker 2: sister Linda. They just became really good friends because Linda's
Speaker 2: my best friend.
Speaker 1: And she called him one day it was like brother drug,
Speaker 1: something happened in the house, can you fix it? So
Speaker 1: he came by.
Speaker 2: Of course, once you get to fixing one thing, he
Speaker 2: ended up been there for hours fixing the whole damn house.
Speaker 2: And my Auntie Esther was like, because Jirell's just like
Speaker 2: he always is kind and generous with his time and
Speaker 2: you know, didn't charge them anything. She told my mother
Speaker 2: about like h Tiffany's quote unquote friend. It's so nice.
Speaker 2: He came here, he fixed all the see, he was
Speaker 2: so sweet. He was sold this so kind, so generous
Speaker 2: with his energy and time and knowledge. And then something
Speaker 2: happened in my parents' house. They had a flood and
Speaker 2: the basement like it needed all new, like carpet had
Speaker 2: to be ripped out, and so Jirell came and did
Speaker 2: it himself and then repainted their basement. I still have
Speaker 2: pictures of us in the basement. He was like, we
Speaker 2: could just do it, Tiffany. I was like, we used
Speaker 2: to be French. But there I was in the basement,
Speaker 2: painting in the basement, and my mom was so thankful
Speaker 2: for that. And that was kind of like the start
Speaker 2: when they realized that, like, yo, we are misjudging this person.
Speaker 2: And there would be times like, if I'm being candid,
Speaker 2: I didn't talk to my parents all.
Speaker 1: The time on the phone, like it's just I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I called them every once in a while,
Speaker 2: but I would walk in the house and Jerred be
Speaker 2: laughing on the floor and I'm like, who are you
Speaker 2: talking to?
Speaker 1: He was like your dad. I'm like my dad. He
Speaker 1: would call my dad and I'm regularly more than me
Speaker 1: and I'm like wait what.
Speaker 2: And so I just say all that to say that
Speaker 2: had I not really looked at what the and I need,
Speaker 2: you know, versus what the people are gonna say, I
Speaker 2: would have missed out on this amazing, amazing, amazing human being.
Speaker 2: So I am not here to say that you ought
Speaker 2: not to need someone who makes a certain amount of money,
Speaker 2: because you might need that that's on your needs list.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I'm not here to say that you ought to date
Speaker 2: the bus driver or not. I don't know, girl, that's
Speaker 2: your business. But what I am here to say is
Speaker 2: to make sure those are your choices that you are deciding,
Speaker 2: not the people what the people gonna say, because the
Speaker 2: people gonna say, we'll keep you without an amazing partner,
Speaker 2: without an amazing life, without the babies that you seek
Speaker 2: so bad, Like what do you actually need in your partnership?
Speaker 1: For me?
Speaker 2: I knew that I was gonna over index on earning
Speaker 2: and I have, so I knew that although it would
Speaker 2: be nice, the truth of the matter is even now,
Speaker 2: like considering dating now, you know, like I'm considering like
Speaker 2: what that's going to look like now that Darrelle's not here.
Speaker 2: It's been almost two years since he passed away, and
Speaker 2: I've just been considering, like what do I need? What
Speaker 2: kind of you know, like because when Jerrol met met me,
Speaker 2: I was still teaching preschool and so that was a
Speaker 2: different dynamic.
Speaker 1: So now I'm like, well, what kind of man.
Speaker 2: I know, I don't necessarily need a man that's gonna
Speaker 2: make a ton of money because I already make a
Speaker 2: ton of money. I bring home seven figures a year,
Speaker 2: and not in business. I'm talking about Tiffany. So even
Speaker 2: if you make one hundred two hundred thousand, that don't
Speaker 2: move the needle for me. I could bring that home
Speaker 2: in a month, if I'm being candid, you know. And
Speaker 2: so I don't, you know, I'm still wrapping my mind
Speaker 2: around you know, it's a different I'm a different person
Speaker 2: now in what I'm needing, and I have not wrapped
Speaker 2: in my mind around if I do want partnership again
Speaker 2: one and then two what I need in my partner,
Speaker 2: because what I needed then when I got with Jarell
Speaker 2: is not what I need now. And so I'm just
Speaker 2: considering what that is and not what the people gonna say,
Speaker 2: you know. And so that's just that's my take on it,
Speaker 2: is that I don't think there's anything wrong with dating
Speaker 2: the bus driver, even if you're an attorney or doctor whatever.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything wrong with saying I want
Speaker 2: someone to make a certain amount of money, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't think it's wrong to say I don't need that,
Speaker 2: I need this instead. I think the only way that
Speaker 2: you can make a misstep is not deciding for yourself.
Speaker 2: For yourself, what does that look like? You know? I
Speaker 2: would love your take, Sissy Pooh's Brianna mission family, you know,
Speaker 2: and the brothers here too, I'd love your take.
Speaker 1: What do you think? You know?
Speaker 2: I'm glad of the choices that I made. I would
Speaker 2: not have chosen anything else. Even if I knew that
Speaker 2: Jarrow was not going to be here, I would have
Speaker 2: still chosen him ten times over because to experience.
Speaker 1: What it is to be love well.
Speaker 2: Man, I can't even tell you I was loved so
Speaker 2: well that even now, two years later after him not
Speaker 2: being here, I still feel his love. His love has
Speaker 2: reached into the future and it still holds me down.
Speaker 2: And so to be loved well, I don't want. I'm
Speaker 2: so glad I didn't miss out on that, because what
Speaker 2: the people are going to say, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 2: I was loved well. He taught me how to communicate.
Speaker 2: He taught me like how to like and in my
Speaker 2: own like, I was like not really good at setting boundaries,
Speaker 2: Like I was loved so well. My sister lived with
Speaker 2: us for two years and she was like, to live
Speaker 2: with you. And Jerel was really a masterclass in relationships.
Speaker 2: She was like, you guys didn't even argue.
Speaker 1: We didn't. Like in the beginning, we did, and then
Speaker 1: we used to.
Speaker 2: We would sit down and talk about, like, let's create
Speaker 2: rules of disagreement.
Speaker 1: No yelling, no cursing.
Speaker 2: No, not that we cursed at each other, but like
Speaker 2: it was like, let's we decided early on and we
Speaker 2: created these a safe word that once the conversation went
Speaker 2: from helpful to harmful, you know, when you're in a
Speaker 2: disagreement all of a sudden, now you're like, well, we're
Speaker 2: talking crazy. Now. We had a safe word, which means
Speaker 2: go to your corner, didn't be quiet, whether you got
Speaker 2: to take a drive, go upstairs, go downstairs. And the
Speaker 2: safe word for us was pineapples, and that just meant
Speaker 2: like one once my neck got to roll and I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: first of all, he would say pineapples, and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, you got me.
Speaker 2: With that damn bite apples, because it meant Tiffany, you're
Speaker 2: about to say something crazy, or you say something crazy
Speaker 2: that you have to apologize for, shut it, walk away.
Speaker 1: Same thing with him.
Speaker 2: If I felt like he was about to get angry
Speaker 2: and say something that I thought was hurtful, pineapples, and
Speaker 2: we had to respect pineapples. And so those are like
Speaker 2: because of that, we got so good. In the beginning,
Speaker 2: we would be saying pineapples all the time, and then
Speaker 2: we got so good at knowing when something was going
Speaker 2: to go left that you would literally self pineapple. So
Speaker 2: like if I was gearing up in my head to
Speaker 2: like dig into his behind because he was wrong about something,
Speaker 2: I would literally hear pineapples in my own head before
Speaker 2: he said it, to.
Speaker 1: Be like, Tiffany, you try to hurt your person, why
Speaker 1: so you could be right girl.
Speaker 2: So after a while we didn't even get to the
Speaker 2: occasion of argument. It would just be like, you know what, Ben,
Speaker 2: I love you, so it's not even as serious.
Speaker 1: Let's just drop it. You know.
Speaker 2: We didn't raise voices like in the very very beginning.
Speaker 2: We had to learn because certainly they were yelling in
Speaker 2: the beginning of the first two months because I'm like, wait,
Speaker 2: this is not how I want this to go. You know,
Speaker 2: we talked about finances openly. Jirell's biggest thing was always
Speaker 2: I want to be able to pay the bills even
Speaker 2: if you're not here. So I we sat down and
Speaker 2: looked at our finances in a way, like I said,
Speaker 2: I know, I want a nice house, but the money
Speaker 2: that you bring in can't necessarily afford a mortgage of
Speaker 2: the kind of house that I want.
Speaker 1: And so we saved and saved and saved.
Speaker 2: So our thing was his money paid the bills, and
Speaker 2: my money we saved it invested, you know, after we
Speaker 2: got married, that's what we did. And then so because
Speaker 2: we saved and invested the money that you know, the
Speaker 2: Budgetiza was making and he paid the regular bills, which
Speaker 2: meant I could save and invest even more, we were
Speaker 2: able to purchase the house that I'm in now as
Speaker 2: a foreclosure.
Speaker 1: You know. It was I think it was at.
Speaker 2: A time like three point fifty and we got it
Speaker 2: for one eighty. But I had to pay that cash,
Speaker 2: you know, and then we renovated a cash with us
Speaker 2: savings and investing. So as a result, there was no mortgage,
Speaker 2: which men that we can continue to afford the lifestyle
Speaker 2: that he could pay all the bills. And because it
Speaker 2: wasn't a mortgage to pay. Same thing with the cars
Speaker 2: that we drove, we saved up and purchased them cash.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: They were certified pre owned cars. Use cars, girl, you know,
Speaker 2: but really nice, like two or three years old and same.
Speaker 2: So we didn't have a car note. So I was
Speaker 2: able to structure our life in a way that the
Speaker 2: money that he brought home could pay bills. Well, I
Speaker 2: could still live the life that I wanted. And so
Speaker 2: I'm just sharing all these things that like it's not easy,
Speaker 2: you know, like if you decide that you are going
Speaker 2: to navigate with someone who's mixed less than you, but
Speaker 2: it's not impossible. And if you have your need to have,
Speaker 2: you could work around the want to have. That's just
Speaker 2: my perspective because when I tell you, I was as
Speaker 2: stressed out as business and stuff made me. I was
Speaker 2: wildly happy at home, wildly happy at home. He was
Speaker 2: just such a good man, And like the loss is
Speaker 2: so great because he was such a good man. I'm
Speaker 2: so glad I did not miss out on him. I
Speaker 2: don't care for how short of a period of time
Speaker 2: I had him, so glad I didn't miss out.
Speaker 1: Well, hope that was helpful.
Speaker 2: Gonna take a quick break, pay some bills, and when
Speaker 2: we come back, we're gonna talk about business, baby, because
Speaker 2: y'all can't be asking me about business and I'm like, child,
Speaker 2: let me answer some of your most most Well, I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna teach a quick business lesson. Okay, Gay, be
Speaker 2: back in a moment, and we're back and blacker.
Speaker 1: Ah.
Speaker 2: So hopefully you listened to the first part of this
Speaker 2: podcast when we talked about money and relationships.
Speaker 1: Let's dig into some business. I don't know if you know,
Speaker 1: but I'm a man tool or whatever.
Speaker 2: Like literally I have huh, I don't know, child, maybe
Speaker 2: like ten in person mentees that trek to Newark sometimes.
Speaker 2: Literally I have like a mentee walk that I do.
Speaker 2: There's there's this park like in another town where I
Speaker 2: have like this really great lake. It's maybe like a
Speaker 2: mile and a half or maybe two miles, like you
Speaker 2: could walk like the trail around the lake and it's
Speaker 2: really easy trail to walk and it's cute and then
Speaker 2: there's a really cute bat house restaurant next to it.
Speaker 2: So anyway, whenever one of my mentees comes to see me,
Speaker 2: we do like a mentee walking session, and then we'll
Speaker 2: have like lunch at the boat house. And so I
Speaker 2: just have mentees, especially women, that I pour into when
Speaker 2: it comes to their finances, not their finances, when it
Speaker 2: comes to their businesses, and they ask me all manner
Speaker 2: of questions. But I also also awesome mentor digitally because
Speaker 2: I cannot possibly mentor everybody who wants me to mentor them,
Speaker 2: and so one of the ways I mentor digitally is
Speaker 2: I have an online mentorship program via Patreon called my
Speaker 2: Mentor Tiffany dot com. Right now, it's ten bucks a month,
Speaker 2: and I teach a live lesson every single month, and
Speaker 2: then right now, weekly the mentees meet up and work
Speaker 2: on their goals together, and I teach a lesson every month,
Speaker 2: and then every Thursday, I give a resource or tool
Speaker 2: to help you on your journey. So you get a
Speaker 2: live lesson a month for me. Right now, they're meeting
Speaker 2: weekly to work on their goals, and then every Thursday
Speaker 2: I give you a resource or tool. So it's good
Speaker 2: over the air for had bucks a month. Yeah, So
Speaker 2: if you're interested, My Mentor Tiffany dot com. All right,
Speaker 2: so let's get into like one of the biggest things, like.
Speaker 1: Like what does it look like?
Speaker 2: So one of the best things that you can do,
Speaker 2: for like, if you're thinking about starting a business, you
Speaker 2: have a business, not sure if you want a business,
Speaker 2: but one of the best things that you can do
Speaker 2: is to establish yourself as an expert. So whether it's
Speaker 2: you yourself personally or your brand, like you know, maybe
Speaker 2: you make cookies, you know, or maybe like, so, how
Speaker 2: do you position yourself as like the go to in
Speaker 2: the space? So what I mean expert? I mean the
Speaker 2: go to? So like, how are you the go to
Speaker 2: chocolate chip cookie in the space? And maybe if it's
Speaker 2: a if it's a product, or how are you an
Speaker 2: expert on all things sneakers you know? Or how are
Speaker 2: you expert like me personal finance. Now, one of the
Speaker 2: reasons why establish yourself as an expert is so useful.
Speaker 2: It's such a great marketing tool because when you establish
Speaker 2: yourself as an expert, people listen, learn, love and trust you,
Speaker 2: and then they look to you for solution and guess
Speaker 2: what your solution.
Speaker 1: Is my business?
Speaker 2: You know. So there's a business that does this really
Speaker 2: well called BLACKI Lotti's I think it's called blackallttis right,
Speaker 2: it's just like super dope. I think her name is
Speaker 2: Casey Asian lady. Hey Casey, please forgive me Casey. Your
Speaker 2: name is not Casey. But I was introduced to block
Speaker 2: A Lottis because I got one of her sweatshirts and
Speaker 2: I love it. It's this cozy sweatshirt. And I got
Speaker 2: it because I saw her post on social media, like
Speaker 2: on YouTube, a YouTube clip where she talked about that.
Speaker 2: It wasn't just here's my cute sweatshirt. She said, if
Speaker 2: you're anything like me, you're tired of these sweatshirts that
Speaker 2: I'm mostly made for guys, because she makes women's like
Speaker 2: exercise clothes, right, And this is like she showed like
Speaker 2: a video of like how a guy like a guy
Speaker 2: sweatshirt laid on the ground, how it's laid out, and
Speaker 2: she was like, the shoulders are up here, the waist
Speaker 2: is here, blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I never thought about that coach
Speaker 1: who thinks about them?
Speaker 2: And she said, I realized that, like women want something cozier,
Speaker 2: So I dropped the seam on the shoulders here. I
Speaker 2: cropped it here. I gave some extra room here, bigger pockets.
Speaker 2: So she was walking us through here's what you're used to,
Speaker 2: here's better expertise. Because if she just said, isn't this
Speaker 2: a cute sweatshirt? I wouldn't even know why it's cute.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh, okay. But once she showed the difference,
Speaker 2: I bought and then like the material that she used,
Speaker 2: that's different. I bought the sweatshirt, and she was right,
Speaker 2: it is the coziest, Like it makes you look so cute.
Speaker 2: You look like what you think you look like when
Speaker 2: you were wearing your boyfriend'swet shirt. That's not how you look.
Speaker 2: This sweat sure looks like what you think you look like.
Speaker 2: It is so cute that, like I remember, I went
Speaker 2: to my sisters and I went to go see Usher
Speaker 2: in Vegas, and like I wore in the airport and
Speaker 2: my sisters were like, girl, Because you know, I'm not
Speaker 2: the fashion niecea sister. They always playing me, talk about
Speaker 2: I can't dress whatever, hate us, right, But they were like, girl,
Speaker 2: this sweetshirt is hey, where do.
Speaker 1: You get this from?
Speaker 2: And as a result, like you know, my sister Tracy
Speaker 2: into buying herself one.
Speaker 1: But I remember thinking how gus is that?
Speaker 2: And if you follow block A Lottis, it is so
Speaker 2: genius because she will show you so now she has,
Speaker 2: like exercise pants, Here's how exercise pants are normally done.
Speaker 2: Here's what's wrong with this design. Here's how I've edited
Speaker 2: this design. Go ahead and get them pants. That is genius.
Speaker 2: And so if you are thinking to yourself, I want
Speaker 2: to you know, be an expert, you know, or I
Speaker 2: want to start a business. I have a service or
Speaker 2: a product or whatever, Like, showing your expertise is one
Speaker 2: of the best ways to do so because in doing
Speaker 2: so you can you can sell anything on the background.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: An expert, you know, just for clarity, is someone who
Speaker 2: has a comprehensive and authoritative knowledge or skill in a
Speaker 2: particular area.
Speaker 1: Right. So it's important one that you know your stuff.
Speaker 2: You have to identify like what you know more than
Speaker 2: most right, So that means you're gonna have to keep learning.
Speaker 2: And when it comes to expert I want you to
Speaker 2: think a tree business versus a bush business. Most people,
Speaker 2: you know, when they're trying to illustrate their expertise, they
Speaker 2: doing like I could cook, I could clean, I could
Speaker 2: do hair, I sew closed that's too much.
Speaker 1: That's a busch business.
Speaker 2: A bush business is when you have too many branches
Speaker 2: and they explode at the same time and your growth
Speaker 2: is stunted. A tree business or tree expertise is when
Speaker 2: you have one core trunk. I think Casey started with, like, yo,
Speaker 2: I make these sweatshirts, one core trunk that she got
Speaker 2: really good at, built trust that, and then once she
Speaker 2: did that, she started to branch out.
Speaker 1: Now she has protein powder and target.
Speaker 2: She's got equipment because she could do the branches now
Speaker 2: because the trunk of that one sweatshirt and she built
Speaker 2: it over years, that trust that, that loved, that connection
Speaker 2: with her audience that she was able to branch out.
Speaker 2: So just think tree business versus bush business. Don't be
Speaker 2: afraid to volunteer in order to practice your expertise too.
Speaker 1: So let's just say for.
Speaker 2: Me, when I did personal finance, you know, as a
Speaker 2: budgeanisa as, I was like honing my expertise. I did
Speaker 2: a lot of churches and things for free. I did
Speaker 2: a lot of one on ones with friends because I
Speaker 2: was honing my expertise skill to know does this actually work?
Speaker 2: Do I know how to articulate it? You know, admit
Speaker 2: that you don't know something and redirect when you do
Speaker 2: when you're building your expertise. Right, So step in step one,
Speaker 2: we're talking about knowing your stuff, you know, because it
Speaker 2: is really important that, like I don't know all the
Speaker 2: things and that's okay. I might say, well, I'm not
Speaker 2: to invest in Lista, go to trade and travel with Terrium.
Speaker 2: Go to trade you're nine to five with Tila, you know,
Speaker 2: it's okay. You can also get a certificate or a
Speaker 2: degree that can be helpful, not always, but it can
Speaker 2: be helpful. So we're talking about, like how do you
Speaker 2: establish yourself as an expert, which.
Speaker 1: Is one of the best ways best foundations.
Speaker 2: You can build when you're building your business because it's
Speaker 2: always comes down to why should we listen to you?
Speaker 2: So now, so step one is know your stuff. Step
Speaker 2: two really is show your stuff in order to be
Speaker 2: an expert. It's not enough for you to know a
Speaker 2: thing you know. I also want you to show people
Speaker 2: that you know a thing get pressed. One of the
Speaker 2: things I used to do when I first started the
Speaker 2: Bunch Ofista before I had a publicist was visit this
Speaker 2: way website called help a Reporter Out, Help a reporter
Speaker 2: out harrow and all these reporters from all around the
Speaker 2: country are looking to quote people for articles New York Times,
Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal insiders, sometimes smaller blogs and things, and
Speaker 2: so help a reporter out is a great way so
Speaker 2: you can get your name in the press to say,
Speaker 2: look at me.
Speaker 1: I am an expert. And so I like to go
Speaker 1: to help a reporter out.
Speaker 2: Don't use your regular email because they're going to get
Speaker 2: sent you emails like three times a day, and you're
Speaker 2: gonna get annoyed. So use your junk email that you
Speaker 2: can look at. Help a reporter out daily. I like
Speaker 2: to answer emails first thing in the morning because reporters
Speaker 2: by midday have already been flooded with responses. So like
Speaker 2: I like to look in the morning, answer it before
Speaker 2: like ten am, Like, hey, my name is Tiffany.
Speaker 1: Here's my quote.
Speaker 2: You know, if you need more, share your phone number.
Speaker 2: I can't tell you how many times a reporter has
Speaker 2: called me, you know, like maybe the if it's called
Speaker 2: the query, the query says looking to interview a woman
Speaker 2: about why women don't save enough. And I'll say, hi,
Speaker 2: my name is Ti Cheryl, my name is Tiffany.
Speaker 1: I believe women.
Speaker 2: Don't save enough because you know they're tasked with being
Speaker 2: the caretakers of their family.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah. You know, hope this is helpful.
Speaker 2: Please attribute me as this Tiffany Alice, founder of the Budganista,
Speaker 2: New York Times bestselling author Get Good with Money. Get
Speaker 2: your attribution how you want them to attribute, And then
Speaker 2: I might put a note. If this is a digital article,
Speaker 2: please link back to my site. You want that link
Speaker 2: back the Budganista dot com because that link back is
Speaker 2: going to grow your site's expertise in the i of Google.
Speaker 1: And then you know, like live.
Speaker 2: Rit erre, that's my sign off instead of sincerely the
Speaker 2: liveature Tiffany. And then I put my cell phone number
Speaker 2: underneath my name because sometimes they have a follow up
Speaker 2: question and they can easily.
Speaker 1: You know, they're like, I have a deadline ten minutes.
Speaker 1: Real quick question, Tiffany. Okay, I just dropped some jewels
Speaker 1: on you right. Also to show your stuff to become.
Speaker 2: An expert, get yourself on some podcasts. There's this great
Speaker 2: website chartable Chartable you can see some of the top
Speaker 2: one hundred podcasts in any area. Parenting, cooking, teaching, business finance.
Speaker 2: You can see those podcasts and pitch them. Podcasts are
Speaker 2: a great way to grow your expertise. Starting a blog
Speaker 2: is a great way to grow your expertise, so people
Speaker 2: see you as an expert. Certainly your social media obviously
Speaker 2: you want to show your expertise there, your post going live,
Speaker 2: posting educational content. You want to be trustworthy and genuine.
Speaker 2: You want to protect your reputation as you're showing your stuff.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Something else that helps to build expertise is like share
Speaker 2: your origin story.
Speaker 1: How did you get here? I used to be a
Speaker 1: preschool teacher.
Speaker 2: And I learned financial education at home. Like that origin
Speaker 2: story helps people to see you as an expert.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Step three is to just market market market market, always
Speaker 2: be marketing. Update your social media bios, considering, consider making
Speaker 2: sure that all your names on your social accounts are
Speaker 2: the same.
Speaker 1: The budget needs to across the board. But also rename yourself.
Speaker 2: So I call myself America's favorite financial educator.
Speaker 1: Who's that? I made that up?
Speaker 2: So when but when the people have you on their
Speaker 2: on their podcasts or on their television or whatever, they
Speaker 2: call me that people will call you what you call yourself,
Speaker 2: Like Muhammad Ali said greatest of all time. He made
Speaker 2: that up and so people started to call him that.
Speaker 2: So what you know, like, what is your America's favorite
Speaker 2: greatest of all time? Like earn your Leisure calls themselves
Speaker 2: the biggest ever. Who said earn your Leader is the
Speaker 2: biggest ever. I don't know if that's true, but guess
Speaker 2: what they've tagged themselves that And when they went on
Speaker 2: today's show, guess what Holda said today, we have earned
Speaker 2: your Leisure the biggest ever in personal finance, girl, you know,
Speaker 2: so rename yourself. You know, plug your business in each interview,
Speaker 2: every time you're in an interview or podcast, whatever, a
Speaker 2: blog post. Plug your business every single time. Ideally your
Speaker 2: business and the link that people can go back to.
Speaker 2: Step four, Be consistent. Someone is always watching, so consistently
Speaker 2: bringing value to your audience, whether you're know you collect
Speaker 2: their emails and you send them like a weekly or
Speaker 2: a monthly newsletter, you're posting regularly on social You want
Speaker 2: to be consistent and you want to offer timely solutions
Speaker 2: like earlier in the podcast today and you know, we
Speaker 2: talked about something that just hit social media. You know,
Speaker 2: people like to see when something happens that they can
Speaker 2: rely on you. I don't care if it's cookies, you know,
Speaker 2: like you know, if you're like if I was going
Speaker 2: to offer a timely solution to cookies and people are
Speaker 2: all about Keto. Now, how do you make keto cookies?
Speaker 2: All these kids have nut allergies? Right, how do you
Speaker 2: make cookies safe for the classroom?
Speaker 1: You see what I mean? So you want to bring value.
Speaker 2: Educational value, ideally to your audience and make them timely.
Speaker 1: And that's but not least. You want to build an audience.
Speaker 2: People want to ask, how did I build my business
Speaker 2: to an eight figure business? Right? Because we've made over
Speaker 2: approaching forty million dollars in the last fifteen years of business, right,
Speaker 2: and how how Hell? One of the ways is that
Speaker 2: we have an amazing community. You have to build an audience,
Speaker 2: you know, like start with an email list, Like I
Speaker 2: like to give away free resources in exchange for people's
Speaker 2: emails so I can keep in contact with you.
Speaker 1: Like there are apps not apps?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it's an app like that you can
Speaker 2: collect phone numbers called smartphone. It's a smartphone. Don't get
Speaker 2: me the line superphone. That's what I use. Because what
Speaker 2: I like about phone is that although it's a little
Speaker 2: more expensive than email to navigate, the open rate meaning
Speaker 2: the amount of people that open your text is about
Speaker 2: eighty percent to email, maybe sixty percent if you're lucky.
Speaker 2: You know, so collect phone numbers, create appointments for connection.
Speaker 2: So if I was just starting out now, then I
Speaker 2: would be going live every Wednesday at four. So people
Speaker 2: just know, like you have kind of like this must
Speaker 2: see TV build an audience. It is probably one of
Speaker 2: the most important things you can do to establish your expertise,
Speaker 2: right so speaking teaching. You know what's so great about
Speaker 2: once you create your expertise is that you can really
Speaker 2: start to monetize it by speaking, by teaching, by selling
Speaker 2: your products through affiliates, through joint ventures, like you partner
Speaker 2: with someone else. You can create products and services related
Speaker 2: to your community's problems because you connect with them regularly.
Speaker 2: You know, you could be a spokesperson, do a brand
Speaker 2: ambassador work okay, and so, like I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 2: right now, help a reporter out, me, help a putter out.
Speaker 2: Creating expertise before you start business or why you're starting
Speaker 2: your business, or even if you're well into it is
Speaker 2: one of the best ways to ensure that you will
Speaker 2: be here. It's been fifteen years for me, and one
Speaker 2: of the reasons why I'm still here is because I'm constantly,
Speaker 2: constantly working on being an expert in my space, establishing
Speaker 2: that expertise and just asserting that over and over and over,
Speaker 2: and so it's allowed me to pivot in business. I mean,
Speaker 2: I've written children's book of a children's book. I've sell published books.
Speaker 2: You know, y'all know I got gegger of money, two
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand copies sold. I have an online school,
Speaker 2: the Literature Academy. Because of my expertise, I can do
Speaker 2: the budget these to ten different ways. We have the
Speaker 2: possible podcast Brian Ambition. Do you see what expertise allows
Speaker 2: you to do? It allows you to spread beyond your
Speaker 2: initial offering and to offer different things to the same people,
Speaker 2: and they're grateful for it because they want your expertise
Speaker 2: in multiple ways. So hopefully that was helpful that, Like
Speaker 2: you know, some of you guys are always asking me,
Speaker 2: how do I start?
Speaker 1: How do I start?
Speaker 2: That's a free way to start, because you don't have
Speaker 2: to pay any money to start establishing your expertise.
Speaker 1: You know, with those five ways that.
Speaker 2: I showed you if you found value in that, which
Speaker 2: I know you did, and you're like, I want you
Speaker 2: to mentor me, miss Tiffany, Miss Stefany, Miss Tiffany. I
Speaker 2: cannot take on any more walking mentees. But you are
Speaker 2: welcome to join our Patreon. There's like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: fifteen hundred people in there. You're welcome to join us
Speaker 2: there at my mentor tiffany dot com. Like I said,
Speaker 2: it's just ten bucks a month, although I think next
Speaker 2: month is going up to twenty, but we grandfather the
Speaker 2: people in. I'll let you know when it goes up
Speaker 2: before it goes up. But yeah, and so hopefully that
Speaker 2: was helpful today. We talked about money, we talked about
Speaker 2: business talk, a little relationship talk.
Speaker 1: It was cute today. How do you like it?
Speaker 2: You know, because we're gonna be having guests. You know,
Speaker 2: Mandy's having her baby and she's gonna be out for
Speaker 2: a while. So I will certainly have guests in the
Speaker 2: studio many days, but.
Speaker 1: Some days it'll just be us chatting bout.
Speaker 2: So if you liked it, you know, send me a tweet,
Speaker 2: send me a message on ig the Budgetista on both
Speaker 2: places and let me know how you felt about today,
Speaker 2: You have any questions until next time, ba Fam. Oh
Speaker 2: on Friday, We're gonna see you on baq Wad. That's
Speaker 2: gonna be me too, Me too, all right, love y'all.
Speaker 1: Bye, hey, ba Fam. We could not do this show
Speaker 1: without your support or the support of our team behind
Speaker 1: the scenes. The brown Envision podcast is produced by Imani
Speaker 1: Crosby and Dennis and Plinsky is our in house tech guru.
Speaker 1: I am your co host Mandy Woodrif Santos, and we
Speaker 1: will see y'all next week, ba Fam.