WEBVTT - NFL Draft Triple Take (TE), April 5, 2022

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<v Speaker 1>Well everyone, and welcome to another edition of the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>Draft Triple Take, presented by U P M C. Mike

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<v Speaker 1>pursued at Dale Wally and Matt Williamson. We are your

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<v Speaker 1>Triple Take threesome. We've been doing this for years now,

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<v Speaker 1>so you probably know the drill by now. We take

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<v Speaker 1>a look at the NFL Draft position by position leading

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<v Speaker 1>up to the NFL annual event. And when I say

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<v Speaker 1>leading up to it, we started this stuff, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>a month six weeks ago. We still got a month

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<v Speaker 1>to go, give or take. We'll drop in some mock

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<v Speaker 1>drafts here and there, just to kind of throw your

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<v Speaker 1>curve ball every now and then. But we are on

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<v Speaker 1>round two, or in the middle round two of our

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<v Speaker 1>position previews and the way that works. Rather than give

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<v Speaker 1>you a top five, we give you a riser, a faller,

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<v Speaker 1>and a sleeper. And one of the themes uh during

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<v Speaker 1>our recent programs has reared its ugly head again. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I like it when we all have so many different

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about it figure, you know, different guys see

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<v Speaker 1>things differently. It's not always the case. And Matt Williamson,

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<v Speaker 1>you and I have been agreed of late and we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it again our riser cadet from from Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>great minds. And I made this excuse for myself when

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<v Speaker 1>we recorded the running back trip will take the second

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<v Speaker 1>one that when we did the first one, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>in the deep end on running backs yet because the

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<v Speaker 1>Steelers have taken Najy Harris well the same as kind

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<v Speaker 1>of true on tight ends, and so I've done a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more ought and research since we got together the

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<v Speaker 1>first time to the rank tight ends. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's my number one now. Yeah, I mean I'm this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean six five, yeah, big time. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>was fifth or six for me either. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>just miss, but he's my favorite now. They asked him

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<v Speaker 1>to block a lot at Washington. I think he was

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<v Speaker 1>a four year starter. The yeah they do that, they're right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he's going to block and so he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>embarrass himself in that regard. And I think he's the

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<v Speaker 1>best separator of this group, you know, like Trey McBride's

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<v Speaker 1>a good player and he was my one before. But

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<v Speaker 1>everything's a contested catch. This guy gets open. Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 1>really rising. He may end up being the first one pick.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he's been reportedly a very popular guy. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of teams are scheduling pree draft visits with this kid.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the Washington thing. You know, certain programs

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<v Speaker 1>produce a certain kind of guy, and it's pretty consistent.

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<v Speaker 1>And a Washington tight end or a Washington dB. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you know what you're getting. At least you got

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a little better idea than than uh, with anybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I'll put it. I'll put a arrow pointed

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<v Speaker 1>up next to Kate. Thank goodness, guys, I started writing

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<v Speaker 1>up Kate Oughton when I did mind, I said, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, that's gonna be too chucky. I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>with somebody else, and so and so I did. I

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<v Speaker 1>went with Daniel Bellinger at a San Diego State and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's six five to fifty three, was in the top

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<v Speaker 1>five essentially and everything, uh testing wise at the combine

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<v Speaker 1>ran a four six three forty. That made me go

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<v Speaker 1>back and watch him again. And I'm not gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>this guy could be George Kittle, because Kittle all he

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<v Speaker 1>did was blocked in college. All this guy, this guy

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<v Speaker 1>blocked a lot in college as well. They didn't throw

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<v Speaker 1>in the football. But then I watched him in the

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<v Speaker 1>drills and things that at the combine and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he heat moves pretty well. And I went back and

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<v Speaker 1>watched some more game taping him. He only had sixty

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<v Speaker 1>eight career catches. Kittle was very similar because they just

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<v Speaker 1>they had T. J. Hawkinson as well. He was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Kiddle was the blocking tight end. It was a Kidd

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<v Speaker 1>with Hockinson at that time or somebody else younger than end.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of tight ends there, you know, And I

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<v Speaker 1>just like this guy's athletic profile. He's big, he blocks,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he's gonna be a guy that goes somewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>probably a lot sooner than I thought, you know when

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<v Speaker 1>we started this process. Yeah, let's keep it with you

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<v Speaker 1>because you and Matt are in agreement on the faller. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt's already uh in previous shows, UH established that he's

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<v Speaker 1>less than impressed with Texas A and m' what's coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of the station. Uh. And you're gonna pile on

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, aren't you. Yeah. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on with the track down there, but Jalen Widermeyer,

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<v Speaker 1>who was number three on my initial list, ran a

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<v Speaker 1>five oh three forty. Yeah, at six five pounds and

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<v Speaker 1>if you remember both of the Georgia defensive tackles at

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<v Speaker 1>the combine ran you know four seven eight and four

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<v Speaker 1>eight oh and everybody's going crazy. Uh A tight end?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's that slow? I don't think there's been one drafted

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<v Speaker 1>in quite some time. Now you turn on this guy's

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<v Speaker 1>tape and it's like, okay, you know, he gets open,

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<v Speaker 1>he does a lot of the stuff that you want

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<v Speaker 1>to see, but I can't get past the five oh

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<v Speaker 1>three forty. I mean that that's super slow. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>Dye just expand on that. I actually looked into it

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<v Speaker 1>a little more like what tight ends it ran over

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<v Speaker 1>A five did get drafted, and it's guys like Nick Boyle,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, big time blockers that are two pounds. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's not that he's not a very good blocker, Like

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<v Speaker 1>he's not real explosive. The forty time was really bad,

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<v Speaker 1>but his jumps were just as bad. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care what the track is. So he's kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>a monotone athlete that doesn't stand out as much as

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<v Speaker 1>he should. Yeah. I kind of used the measurables to

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<v Speaker 1>identify my follower as well. Uh, Jake Ferguson from Wisconsin,

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<v Speaker 1>who I was pretty high on watching a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Big ten football, and then, uh, you know, when you

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<v Speaker 1>start boiling it down at Indianapolis, Now you know four

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<v Speaker 1>eight one isn't awful, but it was ninth among tight

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<v Speaker 1>ends in Indianapolis. It wasn't though it wasn't, but I

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<v Speaker 1>had Ferguson in my top five in the initial look

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<v Speaker 1>at the position. And if he's gonna be the ninth

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<v Speaker 1>fastest guy, he did fifteen reps on the bench press, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one five on the vertical. This is the guy

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<v Speaker 1>wh's got an athletic background, multi sport background, and he

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<v Speaker 1>looks athletic on tape. Kind of similar to uh, Kiren Williams,

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<v Speaker 1>the running back from Notre Dame, who we discussed on

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<v Speaker 1>a recent episode here. Uh. Yeah, as good as they

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<v Speaker 1>look in college. When you start lining them up with

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the draft eligibles, there's a significant difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Some down grading. Jake Ferguson from Wisconsin, Uh, just a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, Matt uh tell us about Gelanti Woods are sleeper. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of thought we might all have him as

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<v Speaker 1>the riser. I mean, he's six seven, just a smidge

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<v Speaker 1>under two hundred sixty pounds, was not a big name

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<v Speaker 1>two months ago leading into this process. Goes to the Combine,

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<v Speaker 1>runs a four or six one at six seven, and

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<v Speaker 1>his jumps were great, long arms, real freaky athlete, and

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<v Speaker 1>much of his career, even going back to Oklahoma State,

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<v Speaker 1>he was just a big in line blocker and he's

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<v Speaker 1>fine doing those things. But well, unleash him. Yeah, let

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<v Speaker 1>him go down the field. I thought I just had

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure he was, you know, in this conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>because he's a name everyone needs to know. They I

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<v Speaker 1>like the guy you included as well. Uh, good hustle

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<v Speaker 1>going outside of the Indianapolis. Uh well, if you're Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>if you watch the pit pro day, you saw a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that Kenny Pickett was throwing to a lot without

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<v Speaker 1>his shirt on. If if I looked like that, I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't wear my shirt either. Talking about Lucas crawl at

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<v Speaker 1>six six to fifty six, uh tight end ran a

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<v Speaker 1>four or five four or forty. I didn't think he

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<v Speaker 1>was anywhere near that fast. I thought he was a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good prospect. I was kind of surprised he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>invited to the Combine. But not only did he have

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<v Speaker 1>that four or five, four or forty vertical. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>he was across the board in like the top above

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<v Speaker 1>and and a lot of those statistics for the tight ends. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know has a baseball background as well as it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was drafted by the Giants, transferred to pit from Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>so he was initially a Florida recruits. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>there to like, and he showed up a lot in

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<v Speaker 1>the fall to absolutely I think he really helped himself

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<v Speaker 1>with this pro day. My sleeper is one of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite players available in this draft for a lot of reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not sure he's a tight end, but he

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<v Speaker 1>worked out with the tight ends in Indy, so uh

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<v Speaker 1>here he have gotten to Michigan State, Yes, he did.

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<v Speaker 1>Connor Or Hayward five eleven, two thirty three. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's much more a fullback slash h back. But he

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<v Speaker 1>has been a running back at Michigan State. He's been

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<v Speaker 1>a tight end. He's been a special teams guy. He's

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<v Speaker 1>just a football player, man, he just makes places. I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen this kid go eighty yards for a touchdown against Maryland.

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually there in the stadium in Maryland. Steelers

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<v Speaker 1>were playing the Ravens. The next day, I was there

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<v Speaker 1>with two or three thousand other really interested people watching

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan State playing Maryland. I wish you had better bloodlines, though, Mike, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the other than iron head Hayward and Damn Hayward.

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<v Speaker 1>He does not much to go there. Uh. A couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years ago, the pandemic year, he scored two touchdowns

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<v Speaker 1>against Michigan and then most recently in the Peach Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>against pitt I know, you guys remember this catch. He

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<v Speaker 1>went up in the end zone during Michigan State's come

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<v Speaker 1>back and gets drilled into spleen or the ribs, comes

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<v Speaker 1>down with the ball touchdown. Uh. Just I really like

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<v Speaker 1>his toughness. I really like his ability. Is Daniel Jeremiahs

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<v Speaker 1>has to play above the rim at five eleven and

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<v Speaker 1>the background that Matt made reference to. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a big fan of guys who, uh, their dad played

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<v Speaker 1>her coach, their brother played her coached, or is in

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<v Speaker 1>the league. Now. I think it's really advantageous. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think Connor Hayward's gonna end up on a roster somewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he's gonna make a few plays every week.

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<v Speaker 1>Great one, Yeah, He's one that every time Matt and

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<v Speaker 1>I do a mock draft on the Drive. On the Drive,

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<v Speaker 1>we always take that seventh round pick and say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Connor Hayward, that's just just pencil it in. He really is. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's fun to watch. He's a good story and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see what that gets him. That's gonna do it

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<v Speaker 1>for our further review on tight Ends, I wanna remind

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<v Speaker 1>everybody that, uh, this show and all shows like it

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<v Speaker 1>can be found on all of the Steelers social media platforms.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna cranking out these positions previous. Hey, sometimes we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna agree, sometimes we're not. Uh that's just the way

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<v Speaker 1>it works out. But uh, we've got it covered from

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<v Speaker 1>every angle of trust me on that one. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>tuning in and finding us wherever and however you found us.

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<v Speaker 1>Until the next time. For Matt Williamson and Dale Lolli,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Mike Pursuona. This has been the NFL Draft Triple Take,

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