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Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show. There's a sense of

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Speaker 1: urgency with this team, and Kyler Murray is happy about it.

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Speaker 1: We are too. Davanka Nard says he's locked in for

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Speaker 1: this season. That was good to hear, but first fans

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Speaker 1: are back. It's Cardinals Cover two, episode four forty seven,

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Speaker 1: and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with

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Speaker 1: Craig Griolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented

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Speaker 1: by Hyundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals and by

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit asy Cardinals dot com, Slash Podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Murray rolls to the right, throws near sighte of fence Bob.

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Speaker 1: He's into the ends, off to the touchdown. Here's Craig

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Speaker 1: Griolu and Mike Jarecki. First open practice of training camp,

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Speaker 1: and by open, I mean with fans, MJ and props

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Speaker 1: to the bird Gang. It was a good crowd for

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Speaker 1: an eight am practice on a Friday. Maybe people called

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Speaker 1: it sick or just went into work a little late,

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Speaker 1: but I'll give them credit for showing up on day

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Speaker 1: as well. Oh there's no doubt about it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think there were twenty seven hundred tickets issued. It

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Speaker 1: could have been a little bit more. He had he

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Speaker 1: had a couple of fans doing having some nice librations,

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Speaker 1: so from tailgating maybe perhaps, Yeah, I don't know about that,

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Speaker 1: just when they opened the doors, but um tomorrow expect

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Speaker 1: nice to see the fans back. And I can't tell

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Speaker 1: know last year they had to bring their own juice,

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Speaker 1: and whether there's two or three or four thousand, hopefully

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Speaker 1: a difference, and props to the fans were able to

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Speaker 1: come out here. I know schools starting and a lot

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Speaker 1: of Heavenlies are on vacation, but for the most part,

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Speaker 1: the players really appreciate. I can tell you that head

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Speaker 1: coach Cliff Kingsbury called it awesome. Devon could Ard noticed

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Speaker 1: that Kyler Murray said, have felt normal and it wasn't

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Speaker 1: a lot. But to your point, last season, there were

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Speaker 1: that didn't have any remember training camp last year had

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Speaker 1: it seems to bring everyone's level up a bit, much

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Speaker 1: like when you put the pads on, everyone's level goes

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Speaker 1: saw that to a certain extent, and full disclosure here,

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Speaker 1: Bird Gang, on this edition of Cardinals Covered two, presented

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Speaker 1: by Hunday, probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: school MJ and well, you were at the entire open

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Speaker 1: portion of practice, which was the entire practice. I I

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Speaker 1: for freshman first day at Mountain Ridge shout out to

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Speaker 1: the Mountain Lions, So I was not here for the

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Speaker 1: real quick, bird Gang, some good news. One Deander Hopkins

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Speaker 1: practice field, though not participating. He was the role of coach.

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Speaker 1: What but some things that you saw and then we

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Speaker 1: You know, you'll see the defense make plays and you know,

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Speaker 1: to asy Cardinals dot com for more information and if

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Speaker 1: you happen to be in the vicinity of a television

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Speaker 1: on Saturday. The league wide training camp back together Saturday,

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Speaker 1: all thirty two teams and expected two hundred thousand fans

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Speaker 1: at practices across the country. It's thirteen hours of coverage

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Speaker 1: on the NFL network starting at six am, Arizona time.

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Speaker 1: And that is something to be I think if you're

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Speaker 1: a football nuts and you can't wait until September twelfth

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Speaker 1: or the Hall of Fame game next week MJ, just

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Speaker 1: turn on the NFL Network and have it run all

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Speaker 1: day long and you get a glimpse of all thirty

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Speaker 1: two teams. I like what the league is doing once again,

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Speaker 1: dominating a day out of the calendar here when there

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Speaker 1: is no football yet being played. As far as games

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Speaker 1: that count. Yeah, and if I'm not mistaken, Kurt Warner

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Speaker 1: from the NFL Network and also Peter Schreeger will be

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Speaker 1: at Cardinals Campton. Fox is having their annual meetings here.

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Speaker 1: It normally happens in Los Angeles because of protocols, so

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Speaker 1: Fox they're going to bring in an entire NFL crew

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Speaker 1: and they'll have their meetings here. So Schreeger's gonna come

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Speaker 1: over here, Good morning football. Obviously, you know has a

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Speaker 1: lot of liking in the head coach and the general

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Speaker 1: manager and the team as a whole. And we know

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Speaker 1: Kurt Warner obviously is you know, the ideal guy to

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Speaker 1: talk to when it comes to Kylin Murray's third year.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you're right turning into the NFL network. Peter

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Speaker 1: Schreeger and Kurt Warner will be here tomorrow and you'll

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Speaker 1: be able to see not only offense but the defense.

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Speaker 1: All right, this first open portion of training camp for everyone.

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Speaker 1: Now you get to see seven on seven, eleven on eleven,

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Speaker 1: we can actually reports what is happening? What did you

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Speaker 1: see out there on Friday? I saw Zaven Collins like

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Speaker 1: getting guys all lined up. You know, you could hear

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Speaker 1: them vocally from the sidelines, which is good. They were

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Speaker 1: rotating a lot of players in and out, so you know,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you're bringing in your nickel and dying package and

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Speaker 1: he's got to make sure where guys are lined up.

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Speaker 1: So I thought he did a good job. But that

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Speaker 1: I can't say enough about Jordan Hicks. He's running every

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Speaker 1: single drill. He's the leader there, which to me is

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Speaker 1: more just about the veteran presence. You know, he's been

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Speaker 1: a team captain. Obviously there's a competition there. You know.

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Speaker 1: Vans mentioned earlier in the week that there are going

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Speaker 1: to be games where we're probably gonna have to have

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Speaker 1: Collins maybe on the sideline for a possession or two,

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Speaker 1: and that's not a bad thing. But I'm glad that

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Speaker 1: Jordan Hicks. He's all in. Yes, it's a business, he

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Speaker 1: understands that. But they're gonna need Jordan Hicks at some

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Speaker 1: point this year. And now you're starting to see Taner

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Speaker 1: Vallejo and Zeke Turner kind of gets a rotation there.

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Speaker 1: So depth wise, I feel comfortable if Jordan Hicks had

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Speaker 1: to go in there. He looks like he's in great shape,

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Speaker 1: he's flying to the ball, he's helping these young guys.

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Speaker 1: It's all you can ask for when you're not a

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Speaker 1: starter in this league. Well, as we heard from coach Joseph,

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Speaker 1: there might be an opportunity for Hicks to see some

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Speaker 1: more planes. Then maybe he was pitched this offseason at

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Speaker 1: which led to the reported request for a trade. I

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Speaker 1: am thrilled that Jordan Hicks is here and participating. I've

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Speaker 1: made no secret about it. I am not a fan

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Speaker 1: of handing the keys to Zaven Collins. Earnest, don't be

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Speaker 1: handed it because you have someone that can help you

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Speaker 1: along in Jordan Hicks. And if you get rid of him,

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Speaker 1: not only does it hurt your depth, but now who's

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Speaker 1: helping Zaven Collins Isaiah Simmons in that room. Who's that

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Speaker 1: veteran voice that you listen to. So props to Jordan Hicks.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully soon we'll get to hear from him. But in

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Speaker 1: the meantime, I like what you're saying. He is still

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Speaker 1: the first guy in every single drill with inside linebackers

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Speaker 1: and he's going one hundred percent. He's not acting out,

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Speaker 1: he's not trying to be an issue or a problem

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Speaker 1: to where they say, you know what, we don't want

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Speaker 1: you here anymore. And I do think there is a

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Speaker 1: role for Hicks on this team, whether that's as many

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Speaker 1: snaps as he got a year or two years ago,

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Speaker 1: or if it's you know, occasionally you see him on

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Speaker 1: the football field, but I want him to be that

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Speaker 1: sounding board, the guy that puts his arm around Zavian

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Speaker 1: Collins and says, listen, son, this is what you're doing right.

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Speaker 1: This is where you need to work on or next time,

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Speaker 1: do this instead of that. Yeah, I mean we would

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Speaker 1: have been able to tell right away if he was

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Speaker 1: the last guy in line. Now clearly, you know, Evan

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Speaker 1: Weaver's kind of the last guy at that position because

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Speaker 1: you got you know, ten of Vlejo and Zeke Turner

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Speaker 1: and then you throw in Isaiah Simmons and now Collins.

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Speaker 1: But you know he's been engaged and so they're gonna

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Speaker 1: need him at the end of the day. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: need him. You know, you hate to think this. What

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Speaker 1: if Collins or Simmons gets an injury in practice like

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Speaker 1: Marcus Gilbert a few years ago, and they have a

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Speaker 1: hamstring injury. Well, who's the first guy up? Jordan Hicks

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Speaker 1: and he's been in the system three years. They trust him.

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Speaker 1: Now clearly he doesn't have the athleticism to go sideline

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Speaker 1: to sideline. And I thought dev Andre Campbell did a

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Speaker 1: really good job covering the tight ends this year. I

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Speaker 1: think Isaiah Simmons maybe get that role. So I don't

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Speaker 1: want Hicks going down in coverage, But when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the run support and making the right calls, I

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Speaker 1: feel very comfortable with Jordan Hicks. Another player in his

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Speaker 1: third year in this defense, Byron Murphy, and he continues

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Speaker 1: to find his way around the football time in and

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Speaker 1: time again, whether that's inside or playing outside corner And

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Speaker 1: I know vanch Joseph is very high on Byron Murphy.

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Speaker 1: We haven't seen a lot of that this offseason, but

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Speaker 1: we're going to see more of it in training camp.

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Speaker 1: To the point, and we keep saying this, Bird Gang,

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Speaker 1: if you're playing two cornerbacks, Byron Murphy is gonna be one,

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Speaker 1: and you gotta find out who the other one is. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you've got three, then Murphy's gonna be playing inside

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Speaker 1: and you go with someone on the outside, whether that's

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Speaker 1: Butler or Alford, who also continues to look very very good.

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Speaker 1: Robert Alford and Jay need to just push fast forward.

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Speaker 1: Can we just get to September twelfth. I want to

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Speaker 1: see Alford in a regular season game. I don't I

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Speaker 1: like seeing him on training camp, but we've seen that

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Speaker 1: the past two years, and I digress. But Robert Alford,

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Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of him as a person and

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Speaker 1: certainly love what I see as a player. Just need

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Speaker 1: to see it on Sundays now. But I think it's

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Speaker 1: safe to say and we know, the injury happened outside

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Normally they don't go out

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Speaker 1: there a ton. It was a freak accident. Both injuries

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Speaker 1: have been freak acts. I mean, it's as he says,

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Speaker 1: that's part of football. You step on the field, it

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Speaker 1: can happen. He was trying to make a play outside

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Speaker 1: in the grass and he broke his leg, and so

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Speaker 1: it's not like, you know, he's putting his helps in

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Speaker 1: harm's way or he's playing the echo of the whistle

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Speaker 1: trying to blow someone up. So yeah, I listen. I

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Speaker 1: like the way these guys are coming to the sidelines,

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Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler and Byron Murphy and then you know you

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Speaker 1: look at Robert Alford and ether On Buddha Baker. A

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Speaker 1: lot of communication and they're mixing and matching with these

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Speaker 1: guys in the secondary. Like I said, our Husbin Denard today,

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Speaker 1: he was moving around and that's the beauty of him

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Speaker 1: and Marco Wilson to play inside and outside. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting to see. But I do

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Speaker 1: think that front seven is going to be the key

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Speaker 1: and that will dictate how much they can do because

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Speaker 1: Vance loves to play man and man press across the board. Okay,

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Speaker 1: jammed the guyliner scrimmage, take them out of his route running.

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Speaker 1: But I also think in certain situations they can play

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Speaker 1: zone and cover areas where you're not allowing the deep

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Speaker 1: all those big chunk plays. Well. Speaking of that front, seven,

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Speaker 1: we touched on Devon Kinnard and our most recent episode

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Speaker 1: of Cardinals covered too, presented by Hunday probably partner of

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. You can find that in the archives.

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Speaker 1: Are just simply subscribe to your Apple podcast, Spotify, Google Podcasts,

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Speaker 1: or stitcher not where you never miss a show, but

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Speaker 1: Devon Knard available post practice. And one he looks in

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Speaker 1: phenomenal shape. And two you just hope that this is

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Speaker 1: the season. Last year, I wouldn't call it a wash,

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Speaker 1: but between the injury and then COVID nineteen, he just

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Speaker 1: wasn't himself and it wasn't a good first impression for

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Speaker 1: the local kid playing for his hometown team, to the

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Speaker 1: point where there was a lot of speculation MJ that

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Speaker 1: Denard was Kennard was not going to be on this team.

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Speaker 1: He was going to be a cap casualty because they

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Speaker 1: didn't see enough out of him. Obviously, that was not

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Speaker 1: the case. He's on the field, and I think he

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Speaker 1: can be a nice rotation piece at outside linebacker with

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Speaker 1: Chandler Jones and Marcus Golden. I give him a ton

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Speaker 1: of credit. And again we only get reports. You know,

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Speaker 1: he was at the facility a ton of the offseason.

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Speaker 1: He looks the part like he did when he got

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Speaker 1: here from Detroit. And the thought one thing I thought

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Speaker 1: he did a good job was in the month of

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Speaker 1: September he was setting the edge. And then we know

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Speaker 1: Chandler got hurt in Week five and then they all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden me and they trade for Marcus Golden.

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Speaker 1: But I think he's in a good spot. He's a

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Speaker 1: good special teams player, and you have to have rotation guys. Yeahs,

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Speaker 1: you'd like to have Golden and Chandler and Jones playing

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Speaker 1: every single snap, but you get him in there, and

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Speaker 1: he also play on special teams and you know, guy,

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Speaker 1: we don't talk a lot about this. Kylie fits. He

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Speaker 1: sets the edge also, So I think if here canard,

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Speaker 1: he said, you know, last year was difficult, but he's

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Speaker 1: put it past him and now you're starting to see

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Speaker 1: the upside. Why the Cardinals did not make a roster

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Speaker 1: move in the offseason. Yeah, he called last year frustrating

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Speaker 1: and then added this quote, I flushed that down the toilet.

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Speaker 1: Now for a long time Valley sports fans, and I

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Speaker 1: think Canard was a little bit too young for this.

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Speaker 1: But Cotton Fitzsimmons, the former Phoenix Suns head coach, would

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Speaker 1: use that description after a bad game, you get blown

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Speaker 1: out by twenty twenty five thirty and he would literally

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Speaker 1: go into the locker room, go into the bathroom and

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Speaker 1: flush the toilet and that was the end of it.

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Speaker 1: You didn't watch any film, you didn't you moved on.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of the mindset of Kennard

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Speaker 1: here is Yes, I acknowledge last year was not good,

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Speaker 1: but in his words, this year is a fresh start.

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Speaker 1: He talked about being locked in banch. Joseph this week

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Speaker 1: talked about Canard being focused, and I think if you

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Speaker 1: have that this year, then you get that rotation. And

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Speaker 1: you do think Canard is a little bit better as

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Speaker 1: far as setting the edge than a Jones or a

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Speaker 1: Golden But there is going to be a role. Now

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Speaker 1: it's up to coach Joseph to figure out how do

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Speaker 1: you use all these pieces and outside linebacker. Maybe you

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Speaker 1: see all three on the field at the same time

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Speaker 1: at the expense of a defensive linement or maybe an

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Speaker 1: inside linebacker. Well, we've watched over the last couple of

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Speaker 1: years sometimes the Cardinals will only have two defensive alignment

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Speaker 1: and they're standing up, and that means you've got a

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Speaker 1: good majority of your linebackers and some of your safeties

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Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. Obviously you're trying to take

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Speaker 1: the quarterback off his spot, make a move around, and

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Speaker 1: make an illifis throw. So yeah, I mean, I'm really

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Speaker 1: curious to see what the nickel and dime defenses look like. Again,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna play probably fifteen to sixteen players on defense,

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Speaker 1: you start with eleven. But the way they they're going

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Speaker 1: to rotate some of these guys, you know, different roles,

643
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: whether it's nickel or dime. If teams are gonna try

644
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: to spread them out, they're gonna have to go with

645
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: their with their package in the secondary where they can

646
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: cover the entire field. So I think Vance is in

647
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: a good spot, and you know, it's going to be

648
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Speaker 1: curious to see how they approach it, because you know,

649
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: he mean to comment yesterday and I really didn't think

650
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: about it, but he said the first three games they're

651
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: really going to face the same offense is now different personnel.

652
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: We know in week one they had a tennesseee to

653
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: play the Titans, and I don't think Ryan Tannehill gets

654
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: enough card play action. Now he doesn't have Arthur Smith there,

655
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: he has Dala Loggins. They bring in Julio Jones, we

656
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: know that a j. Brown in a Week two. You

657
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: know you got Delvin Cook, Kirk Cousins similar to Tannehill

658
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: when it comes to the play action. So that's that's

659
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: kind of a interesting to see how they approach it

660
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: because each team is different based on personnel, so you

661
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: have to change it up a little bit. But they

662
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: feel that they can match up in the least those

663
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: first three games that he mentioned. I'm sure they can

664
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Speaker 1: match up every single week, but it was encouraging to think,

665
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Speaker 1: you know, they're not learning a brand new offense, even

666
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Speaker 1: though you're gonna have face some new head coaches week

667
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: three at Jacksonville. That might be a little bit of

668
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: an unknown just what they want to do there with

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Speaker 1: urban Meyer, but it might not be too much too exotic,

670
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: especially early on in that tenure with a new gene

671
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: staff and pretty much a brand new team, and then

672
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: the following week you've got the Rams, and I think

673
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: that's where people in that first month of the season,

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Speaker 1: I've been to point to that fourth week when you

675
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Speaker 1: have to play the Rams, and we know the history

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00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: with the Cardinals and the Rams. It's not been a

677
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: good history of the last couple of seasons. So there

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Speaker 1: is I like what you said there as far as

679
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: you're not having to ask young players, specifically inside linebackers

680
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: to learn a whole lot early on. Maybe there is

681
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: a carryover from week one to week two to week

682
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: three before you kind of really have to maybe open

683
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: up their minds a little bit to figure out what

684
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Speaker 1: opposing offenses might do to you. The last point on

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Speaker 1: Kinnard on his meeting with the media was the amount

686
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Speaker 1: of questions asked and him being very open about pass rush.

687
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: And it's not something that Cannard is known for, though

688
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: we did have some good years with the Lions before

689
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: the Cardinals signed him, But just how much that has

690
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: kind of been talked about, not only amongst the linebackers,

691
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: but the defensive lineman JJ Watt, obviously Jordan Phillips from

692
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: the inside, but how much technique footwork not just getting

693
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: to the quarterback, but how do you beat your man

694
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: winning those one on one matchups to get to the quarterback,

695
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 1: to get to the ball carrier. And again attention to detail.

696
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: Now it's not offensively but defensively, just doing the little things.

697
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 1: Maybe a little half step quicker, your move is just

698
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 1: a little bit half a second faster to where all

699
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: of a sudden you're beating your guy winning those one

700
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: on one matchups too, where you can basically not have

701
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: to load the box and do some exotic things like

702
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: we saw last year because you didn't have a Chandler

703
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 1: Jones or a real hundred percent Canard. And with the

704
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: Cardinals have done a great jobs to Bill Bidwell Fellowship

705
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: program where you bring in some former players and they're

706
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: really specialties when it comes to working with certain positions.

707
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: And sometimes these guys want to find out if they

708
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you want to do this for a living.

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00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: Obviously you getting camp for a couple of weeks, and

710
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: so the Cardinals have brought in a pass rush specialists

711
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: and they've tried some new drills with him, and guys said,

712
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: it's you know, when you're at the line of scrimmage.

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00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: Are your toes pointing to the quarterback or are they

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00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: more to the center. Sort of little things. And again,

715
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: Brinson Buckner is you know, forgotten more football than we'll

716
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: both know. And they have different drills, but they brought

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Speaker 1: in a pass rush a specialist and they're doing different

718
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: drills and they feel like they're, um, you know, getting

719
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Speaker 1: better from it. So again you get some different eyes

720
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: on these players and he shows us some different techniques

721
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Speaker 1: and that's the way you get to the quarterback. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's going back to what you pointed to, the coaching

723
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Speaker 1: and it's not just the position coach, it's the teammates

724
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Speaker 1: now doing coaching up each other as far as how

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00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: to be better at your respective position and then doing

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00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: things maybe just a little bit. I mean again, in

727
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: the NFL, you're talking about, you know, being just a

728
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: little bit. The difference between good, too great to superstar

729
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: or all pro is that those players who are a

730
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 1: half step or two steps faster quicker than the margin

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Speaker 1: between those kind of players is very very small. So

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00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: anything that you can do to beat the guy in

733
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: front of you, whether that's an offensive player or a

734
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 1: defensive player, you know, can certainly loom large on those Sundays.

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Speaker 1: It was interesting listening to Canard, who's a big dude

736
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: like his his his like thighs and legs. I know

737
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: where you're going here. This is good. So they asked

738
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Speaker 1: what it was like, you know, do you get starstruck?

739
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: And he said, I've been around the league long enough.

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Speaker 1: But he said one thing. When J J Wat got here,

741
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: he said, I couldn't believe how big he was. He said,

742
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: he's huge his legs and then he's pumping weight into

743
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: the weight room. So he was he said, I don't

744
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: get starstruck, but he said when I was standing next

745
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: to him, I just can't believe how big he is.

746
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Speaker 1: The quote was dudes built crazy, and then he added

747
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 1: makes me feel kind of small. Now, keep in mind

748
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: bird Gang Davon Karnard's sixty three two fifty six. But

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Speaker 1: you stand him next to JJ Watt, who is six

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00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: five two eighty eight, Yeah, you're looking up at him.

751
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: And then he then kind of turned the tables on us, like, well,

752
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: have you stand next to him? It's like, well, we haven't.

753
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 1: We're kind of not really allowed to at the moment

754
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: during doing because of protocols. But yes, you're you're looking

755
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: up at him if you're a Canard and you're giving

756
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: away about thirty pounds as well. So he is. He

757
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: is a mountain of a man JJ Watt, and that

758
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: is something that the Cardinals certainly hope bodes well for them,

759
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: especially in the interior, to where he can you know,

760
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: get by those one on ones or even those double

761
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: teams that might come as well. Well. Zach Allen's list

762
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: is six five two eighty five. You mentioned Watt six

763
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: five two eighty eight. Allen looks smaller when he's standing

764
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Speaker 1: next to him. Now hopefully he becomes in mini JJ Watt,

765
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: not so much career, just being able to you know,

766
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: crash the pocket, to get some balls, bad it down

767
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 1: and being a good rotation guy because on paper, Zach

768
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,959
Speaker 1: Allen's going to be starting next to j. J. Watt

769
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Speaker 1: along with Jordan Phillips. And we've heard coach Joseph say

770
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: that he's seen a lot of a young JJ Watts

771
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: in Zach Allen right now in twenty twenty one. Now

772
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: what happens beyond this season, who knows, But as Cannard

773
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 1: no I both always Kingsbury that brought up the fact

774
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: that Zach Allen might have had a JJ Watt poster

775
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: up in his room and all of a sudden, not

776
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: only are you sharing the field, but you're playing with him,

777
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: not against him, And I think, yeah, there might be

778
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: that would have been an interesting just to be a

779
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: fly on the wall when JJ Watt walked into the

780
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: weight room for the first time with his team, his

781
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: new teammates, and and then you gotta you know Jordan Phillips,

782
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: he's like six six sixty seven, he's three forty one.

783
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: I mean they would pass the All Airport team guys

784
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: walking through the airport. You're like, position, does he play? Quick?

785
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: Remember reminder Bird Gang Saturday, the league wide training camp

786
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: back together Saturday, all thirty two teams, thirteen hours of

787
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: coverage on the NFL Network starting at at six am

788
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: Arizona time, the final day of July. Just pull up

789
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: a chair and turn on the television, and of course

790
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: you'll see a lot of Cardinals coverage Kurt Warner, the

791
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: Ring of Honor member and Hall of Famer, and attendance

792
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: Peter Straeger as well from Good Morning Football. Should be

793
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Not exactly sure what you're gonna

794
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: see again. MJ. We're still waiting for next week when

795
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: the pads come on, but certainly seeing now seven on

796
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: seven and eleven on eleven and maybe even some drills

797
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 1: to see the chemistry that Kyle the Murray is working

798
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: with his wide receivers. It's gonna be good day for

799
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: everyone to see. And now, you know, everything that's been

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00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: talked about in the offseason, now does it come to fruition.

801
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 1: Now we get to see all of this hard work

802
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 1: that the front office put in to put these ninety

803
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: one players together. Yeah, and on Friday, I thought the

804
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: offense had the upper hand, and that means the defense

805
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: may have the upper hand. But it's just nice to

806
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: see these guys, you know, all poland the same way

807
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: the rope and coming together as a team. That's the

808
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: most important thing. But it's nice to see the fans

809
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: out there, and hopefully they get a chance to come

810
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: out and enjoy it, because before we know, Cardinals will

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Speaker 1: host in a couple of preseason games and they'll finish

812
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: it on the road against the Saints, and the season

813
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: is going to be here. So a lot of excitement,

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00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: and I can tell you for a fact, the players

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00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 1: were excited about the fans on Friday, and there should

816
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: be double fans coming up this Saturday, and will probably

817
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: even double that the following Saturday when they had their

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Speaker 1: red and white practice. By the way, I said ninety

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00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 1: one because Bernhardt Psychovitz does not count against the ninety

820
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 1: man limits, so keep that in mind as well. We'll

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Speaker 1: just have to see how he progresses and probably get

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Speaker 1: more on that topic as we continue here on training camp.

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Speaker 1: On that note, let's put a lid on this edition

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Speaker 1: of Cardinals Covered two, presented by Hunday probably partner the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our executive producer

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Speaker 1: Jim Almandro. For Mike Jarecki, I'm Greig Rayel Loew. We'll

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