Speaker 1: They Around the NFL podcast struggles through the pressures of
Speaker 1: fatherhood but still looks great. Baby from the Chris Westling
Speaker 1: podcast studio. It's around the NFL. I am Dan Hansis
Speaker 1: I got heroes here, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler, and it
Speaker 1: is Wednesday.
Speaker 2: That can only mean one thing.
Speaker 1: Ten fifty one club in the house, Colleen.
Speaker 3: Whoa, Hey, guys, Hi, I left my house today and
Speaker 3: immediately texted Dan with the GPS e TA, which was
Speaker 3: just about ten fifty one.
Speaker 4: Yep, as was he. So we're really.
Speaker 1: Aligned right on the money.
Speaker 5: It's your precision is incredible to Greg and I.
Speaker 1: And it's naughty too. It's just it is.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: Consistence, Yeah, and accountability. It's ten to fifty one club forever.
Speaker 1: How's everybody done? Midweek show? Hump Day?
Speaker 6: I thought it was Thursday when I woke up, so
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 4: Dance spilled water all over the place.
Speaker 7: Colleaen days just feel lighter, they feel better, you know.
Speaker 2: See I have the opposite feeling, yeah with me dread.
Speaker 8: Is it the Homicide Division sweatshirt that I'm wearing?
Speaker 2: The Philly Homicide Division hoodie? Is I guess?
Speaker 5: With a great line They came up with a great plane. There.
Speaker 4: Our day begins when yours ends.
Speaker 1: Goodness, Chris arose.
Speaker 5: It's accurate.
Speaker 4: I'm in the Christmas spirit.
Speaker 1: Does that mean they work at night or does it
Speaker 1: what I think it means.
Speaker 7: It's there's a grim reaper literally as.
Speaker 4: Part off the clock.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like when your day meeting, your life journey ends.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what they saw.
Speaker 1: You can die by the way, Maybe that would be
Speaker 1: a good slogan too.
Speaker 2: Then Mark, maybe you get some residuals.
Speaker 5: Let's say you're allowed to, and then we'll probably handle it.
Speaker 5: If it seemed.
Speaker 4: Years Detective Murray will be on the case.
Speaker 5: We care about you and we care about who you were.
Speaker 2: All right? Coming up today? NFL odd couples, how about that?
Speaker 1: What are some pairings in our league that, on the
Speaker 1: surface anyway, don't make sense or not.
Speaker 2: What you expect? Good one, good seg coming up.
Speaker 5: I think Greg came up with that, but he did
Speaker 5: good job.
Speaker 2: So the pressure is on Greg to make it sick.
Speaker 2: I choose not to accept that pressure.
Speaker 1: We also have a bunch of previews to hit because
Speaker 1: we have a Thursday night affair Chargers and Raiders, and
Speaker 1: I see in a rundown you sent out, Greg, you
Speaker 1: had la ex hyphen lv is that because the charges
Speaker 1: are already ready to fly home?
Speaker 2: Got it?
Speaker 6: Greg enjoys when he does the rundowns, and we think,
Speaker 6: I'm glad you do because it's like you wake up
Speaker 6: and they're there. But there's always like an in saying
Speaker 6: spelling mistake in one of the things that he's done.
Speaker 4: Where is this rundown that you guys are talking about?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 7: Now you have access to it in the slack you
Speaker 7: can always do. I know you don't check, so I texted.
Speaker 4: You, Oh the potential news. I got that, okay?
Speaker 1: And uh, first though, let's start by getting caught up
Speaker 1: on where we're at Placo.
Speaker 2: On fourth down and three, play clock is in five.
Speaker 5: I don't know if they're gonna snap it. Play clock
Speaker 5: is in two. They do. He rolls right, He throws
Speaker 5: the bit on a twine open down.
Speaker 2: At the twenty five. At the twenty.
Speaker 7: Fifteen ten five touchdown, hitch David.
Speaker 2: Dow what a call.
Speaker 9: Oh my goodness, they forgotten to cover David Bell.
Speaker 10: It was the parting of the Red Sea Jim David Bell,
Speaker 10: who has been searching, yearning, desiring to get into the.
Speaker 2: End zone in the National Football League.
Speaker 10: Well desire no more, my friend, This first rear touchdown
Speaker 10: and couldn't have come in a bigger time.
Speaker 1: What a gutsy call and what execution.
Speaker 2: Flacco to Bell and the Browns are up two scores.
Speaker 1: Oh what a call by Jim Donovan, Nathan Segura w
Speaker 1: k r K Cleveland Browns Radio. Onside kicks are cool
Speaker 1: though too.
Speaker 6: I mean, Dan, you have to be the most annoying
Speaker 6: person I've ever met, because you've been sitting on this
Speaker 6: for forty eight hours. Multiple people have reached out and
Speaker 6: said we like the anti direction you took to go
Speaker 6: with an on side kick.
Speaker 2: And nobody, no one reached out to you. Zero people.
Speaker 2: Show me who reached I.
Speaker 5: Will spend time and get it to you.
Speaker 6: But like, this is so important to you that I'm
Speaker 6: just gonna you just keep going, keep going.
Speaker 1: It's so important. It so great to hear that call
Speaker 1: because David Bell, what a moment in the game.
Speaker 6: Donovan and Zigura bring the energy. It's great to see
Speaker 6: Donovan back in the mix. He's a legend in Cleveland.
Speaker 6: So no one honor is saying that it's not a
Speaker 6: good play call.
Speaker 11: Not.
Speaker 5: No one is saying they didn't go to do good job,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 8: So watching that video of the call so fun, Like
Speaker 8: I don't know if I've ever really watched a radio
Speaker 8: call or a broadcast call like that in the booth,
Speaker 8: it's awesome.
Speaker 5: You were actually asking for the joke who call?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 5: So that was the David Bell call?
Speaker 1: So many options?
Speaker 2: Was that was the last touch on?
Speaker 7: And I'm not saying this to be annoying, although my
Speaker 7: competitive spirit, you know, got a little offended when you
Speaker 7: said Dan's the most annoying person.
Speaker 2: In the room. But now I like it, is it eligible?
Speaker 2: Is that play eligible?
Speaker 7: Because it wasn't on the show, And yet when I
Speaker 7: heard that call, immediately I thought that should probably be
Speaker 7: on our top ten calls of the year long list.
Speaker 2: I think it's eligible. It's now been played on the
Speaker 2: I've done I've done my best to exhume these different
Speaker 2: calls from a great Brown.
Speaker 5: It's on the call. What if what if.
Speaker 2: We put it I'm the last eric, I'm making the call.
Speaker 5: Put the on sites kick on the list.
Speaker 6: Let people you know we're gonna keep that one out.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, figure, all right, we can move forward with
Speaker 1: that now we're good now now we're good.
Speaker 5: Okay, we're good.
Speaker 2: Uh not good, not good at all.
Speaker 7: The people that didn't listen to the recap show have
Speaker 7: no idea.
Speaker 5: What what are they doing?
Speaker 2: You're not wanted here anyway?
Speaker 1: Then actually pause it, go back listen to the recap show.
Speaker 6: Then how rich would this opening segment be of went
Speaker 6: back and listen to that part of the show.
Speaker 5: If not the whole.
Speaker 1: Show on the Sunday Flagship show comes straight to our
Speaker 1: show and away we go.
Speaker 4: Like a pod with directions.
Speaker 2: Demands. Justin Herbert is done.
Speaker 1: Bad news, bad season, bad season for Herbert, the Chargers,
Speaker 1: the idea of Los Angeles football, you know, getting some juice.
Speaker 2: Nah, bad, bad, bad bad.
Speaker 1: He is going to undergo surgery on his broken finger,
Speaker 1: and they are playing on Thursday night, obviously, so we're gonna.
Speaker 2: Get easton stick yep.
Speaker 1: We are including Colleen, who is the anchor of NFL
Speaker 1: Networks coverage when the Chargers face the Raiders. So there's that,
Speaker 1: and then there's the general question around the future of
Speaker 1: this team. Herbert and Brandon Staley probably played their last
Speaker 1: game together as coach and quarterback. And when we see
Speaker 1: what the future is, I assume it's Herbert leading the
Speaker 1: way mark, but this, I feel like this organization has
Speaker 1: a lot of unanswered questions as they head into the
Speaker 1: off season.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I wonder, you know, by Friday afternoon
Speaker 6: if the coaching staff hasn't been largely whittled down. It
Speaker 6: just seems like a really real possible rosibility at this point.
Speaker 6: With Herbert, It's like there's no question he is the futures,
Speaker 6: and there's no question that this is a good roster.
Speaker 6: In a lot of ways, they're mystifying because of how
Speaker 6: underachieving they've been. But I don't like the situation for
Speaker 6: Herbert in general, where we're looking at like his fourth core.
Speaker 6: It's gonna have like this fourth new offense to learn
Speaker 6: it Like this was pitched as like Herbert and Kellen Moore,
Speaker 6: who are friends that did like I think car commercials
Speaker 6: up in like the Northwest.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like they just like they're like pals.
Speaker 6: It's like and all off seasons, like we're really gonna
Speaker 6: tailor this around Herbert's strengths, and it's like none of
Speaker 6: that looked like to happen at all.
Speaker 5: It's the worst Herbert's worst one.
Speaker 1: Some of it, though, is like, so we said, like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a shame that Herbert can't get that continuity.
Speaker 1: But if him and Callimore take off and have a
Speaker 1: big year together this year, then probably none of this
Speaker 1: is happening. Well, the injury you can't control. But I
Speaker 1: think this is where I get a little bit frustrated
Speaker 1: with the Herbert experience and where he's seen is you
Speaker 1: can't just tell me because Mike Williams got hurt this
Speaker 1: year that the Chargers offense is where it is, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is this is a team wide issue and the
Speaker 1: quarterback has to be a little better too.
Speaker 2: So I just think that's what I mean.
Speaker 1: I still believe in Herbert, but just kind of a
Speaker 1: lost year for Los Angeles.
Speaker 4: It always is a lost year for Los Angeles.
Speaker 8: This is this is the constant theme with this team
Speaker 8: ever since I started working at NFL Network.
Speaker 4: It's like, I every off season love the Chargers.
Speaker 8: And I'm all in on all of the moves that
Speaker 8: they've made and all of the way that they set
Speaker 8: up their team, but especially with justin Herbert, and it's
Speaker 8: just such a shame because it just feels like they're
Speaker 8: such they're just wasting his career at this point, he's young,
Speaker 8: he's in his prime. He should be among the top
Speaker 8: quarterbacks in the league with like the the Joe Burrows
Speaker 8: and the Mahomes and the and everyone and even like
Speaker 8: the Trevor Lawrences and Josh Allen's. But like he's just
Speaker 8: not because this team can never put it together.
Speaker 7: Wait, the Chargers wasting the prime years of an outstanding
Speaker 7: quarterbacks career.
Speaker 12: It's exactly what what I really loved Mike Sandos article
Speaker 12: in The Athletic this week that was putting saying that
Speaker 12: it shouldn't just be coaching records, there should be owners records.
Speaker 7: And they put up the owners records, and you know
Speaker 7: that's right, That's that's where you see the through line.
Speaker 7: You know they didn't know what they wasted Drew Brees,
Speaker 7: by the way, you know, a Chargers quarterback. They wasted
Speaker 7: Rivers who still had a great career and everything. And
Speaker 7: I don't think they're wasting Herbert, and I don't think
Speaker 7: this year was a disaster for him, But his best
Speaker 7: year was twenty twenty one. I think even Herbert, you know,
Speaker 7: big fans like myself, would say his best year was
Speaker 7: Staley's first year, his second, only his second year in
Speaker 7: the league and so ted then have your next two
Speaker 7: years be worse than that individually and as a team
Speaker 7: is quite disappointing. The only thing I'd push back slightly
Speaker 7: on is like, is this roster that talented? I am
Speaker 7: very curious how this goes in the offseason. Kind of
Speaker 7: the core players that they have, they all seem very
Speaker 7: up in the air to meet Khalil Mack, Joey Bosa.
Speaker 7: I think Bosa might be gone. Irwin James hasn't had
Speaker 7: a great year. Certainly, the line didn't play as well,
Speaker 7: and Mike Williams and Keenan Allen are both good players,
Speaker 7: but where their future, So there could be a lot
Speaker 7: of change.
Speaker 6: It just reminds me a little bit of like when
Speaker 6: the Cowboys made a switch at defensive coordinator and Dan
Speaker 6: Quinn came in and all the same players got a
Speaker 6: lot better.
Speaker 5: I think there is talent on the roster.
Speaker 6: I mean, for me, they have spent only two teams
Speaker 6: have spent more to form their defense cap wise, their
Speaker 6: number three behind Buffalo and Pittsburgh, and they're one of
Speaker 6: the worst defenses in the league.
Speaker 2: That's rough.
Speaker 1: In other news, big news, the NFL is always looking
Speaker 1: to expand it's reached internationally and we will be heading
Speaker 1: well I don't know about we, but that'd be cool.
Speaker 1: Better know, we being the NFL will be heading to
Speaker 1: South America for the first time. The NFL has already
Speaker 1: played games each year in the United Kingdom and Germany.
Speaker 1: This year and in twenty twenty four, it will be
Speaker 1: Sam Paulo Brazil.
Speaker 2: The league announced on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: The date and time of the game and the teams
Speaker 1: that will play it have not been announced. It was
Speaker 1: chosen over Madrid, but I would imagine Madrid is in
Speaker 1: line as well. So that comes on the same day
Speaker 1: it was announced that the Super Bowl in twenty twenty seven,
Speaker 1: which will be sixty one, will be played here at
Speaker 1: SOFI Stadium.
Speaker 7: Nice Sott a West Coast super Bowl. Again, the international
Speaker 7: expansion is afoot. So you get Brazil, which you know,
Speaker 7: was news to me that they're the third most pop
Speaker 7: you know, it's the country where there they have the
Speaker 7: third most amount of NFL fans behind the US in
Speaker 7: Mexico and maybe and it's partly because it's a lot
Speaker 7: of people there, but there are we we've heard from
Speaker 7: our friend our fans in Brazil and obviously there's a
Speaker 7: language difference, but the English speakers, we have a lot
Speaker 7: of listeners. We had a remember they sent us uniform
Speaker 7: I forget who was it was a unifor I still
Speaker 7: have that in my closet of like a Brazilian football team.
Speaker 7: So that is very exciting, and it was part of
Speaker 7: an announcement that they can now do up to nine
Speaker 7: international games as of twenty twenty five, so that will
Speaker 7: not be next year. Uh, technically the Wembley Stadium Jaguars
Speaker 7: game does not count as part of the series, so
Speaker 7: does work. I didn't know that because because basically they
Speaker 7: do it every year, and they're saying, you take that
Speaker 7: out of it. And on top of that, we can
Speaker 7: we can now do eight a year. In the past
Speaker 7: it had been four a year, and part of it
Speaker 7: is just a scheduling thing. They're now saying, well, instead
Speaker 7: of making you give up a home game, you know,
Speaker 7: with that seventeenth game every four years, now we can
Speaker 7: do it every or every eight years. Now we can
Speaker 7: do it every four years. And so it's happening. And
Speaker 7: I think the idea Mark, I'm serious, what you think
Speaker 7: kill at least three of us on the raw is
Speaker 7: to just have that early window, because they also even
Speaker 7: said publicly that eight might they might go up for eight.
Speaker 7: I think the idea might be that early window. Six
Speaker 7: thirty on the west coast, nine thirty on the east
Speaker 7: coast of the US is just a new window. And
Speaker 7: that's like maybe at some point that's a weekly, weekly
Speaker 7: game because the numbers it all make sense, you know,
Speaker 7: the seven, you know, sixteen games.
Speaker 6: I appreciate the enthusiasm in your voice, Greg over this development.
Speaker 6: It causes me slight anxiety, but I would say that
Speaker 6: if they and I hope that they send us to Brazil,
Speaker 6: we do have a lot of people down there that
Speaker 6: listen to the show.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: The same way that we built a bridge for Goodell
Speaker 6: and his friends over to Europe, we can build one
Speaker 6: to South America.
Speaker 2: Bare hands.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Shout out to pick six dot com. I don't know
Speaker 7: what's going on on their website because you know, I
Speaker 7: can't I can't read it. But they got in ten
Speaker 7: thousand followers and they said, just book the live show
Speaker 7: right now.
Speaker 2: I like that tweet to us this morning.
Speaker 8: So you guys are really driving there to do You're
Speaker 8: driving the international expansion, and you should be proud of them.
Speaker 1: These are the hands that built the international expansion brick
Speaker 1: by brick Well.
Speaker 2: Henry plays a role as well.
Speaker 6: Do you think we would all return from Brazil if
Speaker 6: we went to Brazil?
Speaker 5: The answer is no, I mean.
Speaker 2: Way, what would I'm sorry, what would happen?
Speaker 5: Why would anyone?
Speaker 6: Why would return to the United States if they sent
Speaker 6: us to presil Oh?
Speaker 5: Well, a good time, just saying like it sounds like
Speaker 5: a nice.
Speaker 7: Who got They gotta go big with the teams they
Speaker 7: said there too.
Speaker 2: I wonder fan based out.
Speaker 7: Well, I read that they don't know anything about it,
Speaker 7: like you know how different teams have.
Speaker 5: Dan doesn't want to go.
Speaker 2: They sort of like own, well, I'd like to return.
Speaker 2: I would go. Why wouldn't we return? That's what I
Speaker 2: just said. Yeah, he wants to disappear.
Speaker 6: I like gent off of stay for like three months
Speaker 6: and see what like real life is like. That could
Speaker 6: be anywhere pounding back home eight hour like oh the
Speaker 6: game in it you're on a midnight flight an hour
Speaker 6: later to come back to LA and like you know,
Speaker 6: grind around the streets. We're never sure if you're gonna
Speaker 6: even get on Like the flight back from Indianapolis for
Speaker 6: the combine.
Speaker 2: So it's yeah, my favorite.
Speaker 1: We'd wait three days for you in Brazil Mark and
Speaker 1: then uh and then we'd get shook on a plane
Speaker 1: to La and we just have to move forward.
Speaker 6: And I don't think anyone we complained, but I just
Speaker 6: I'm saying, like, it seems like we could pack in
Speaker 6: like a couple extra days in South America after the game.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: It always got us out like eight minutes after. It's
Speaker 6: like you're rushing in the taxi with your bags to
Speaker 6: the airport.
Speaker 4: You got another show to do.
Speaker 8: The thought of a six thirty am kickoff window on
Speaker 8: the regular.
Speaker 7: I mean it already there was five this year, right, Yeah,
Speaker 7: it is on the regular. It's like it's happening.
Speaker 2: I do like a home.
Speaker 8: Doing the pregame shows for that on the West Coast
Speaker 8: is selfishly, from my perspectives, it is tough.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of there's a lot of
Speaker 1: complaining going on at this game. Maybe we would cancel
Speaker 1: the whole thing.
Speaker 8: It's over, We're turning the car around, we're going there.
Speaker 5: Get it.
Speaker 1: Tell on the phone, we got to there's too many
Speaker 1: entanglements in other news. I'm just going to keep tracking
Speaker 1: this because it's fun. The MVP odds race in Vegas
Speaker 1: per DraftKings, Dak Prescott has now jumped ahead in the race.
Speaker 2: I have some data points here.
Speaker 1: Dak after his big game in primetime against Eagles, is
Speaker 1: now at plus one fifty. Party's odds actually went up
Speaker 1: as well, but he drops behind Dak at plus one
Speaker 1: eighty five. Lamar's at four to seventy five, Hurts its
Speaker 1: plus six fifty, and then Tyreek and mahomes deep distance
Speaker 1: at sixteen hundred and CMC gone at four thousand right now,
Speaker 1: so it could be turning into and these things changed quickly.
Speaker 1: But in Vegas that's starting to point to is this
Speaker 1: a two horse race between.
Speaker 2: Dak and Purty.
Speaker 7: Things do change quickly, because sure, there's what four weeks
Speaker 7: left the season. I think four weeks ago Dak was
Speaker 7: something plus three thousand. I always remember the year he
Speaker 7: got in on that it was like vic or tom
Speaker 7: Brady vicor one of bet tom Brady's best seasons ever.
Speaker 7: And then like literally with three weeks left of the season,
Speaker 7: and then tom Brady became the first ever unanimous MVP,
Speaker 7: even though there was like even with three weeks ago,
Speaker 7: but Vic got hurt and had a couple of bad
Speaker 7: games and Brady finished strong, and so it's all about
Speaker 7: that closing kick. I think Lamar still has a pretty
Speaker 7: decent chance here.
Speaker 5: I think there's a pretty big drop off to Hurts
Speaker 5: this time around.
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, especially with this stretch, and it's all about
Speaker 8: the narrative and what recently happened.
Speaker 7: But never made I never thought he made sense there
Speaker 7: because to me, he was getting out played by too
Speaker 7: many quarterbacks this year. Even though he's really good. It's
Speaker 7: like a top five quarterback, top six quarterback.
Speaker 8: It's also like kind of hurt, like whatever's going on
Speaker 8: with him? But every single Cowboys fan I talked to
Speaker 8: is like, no, Dak will never win this award because
Speaker 8: it's Dak Prescott, And like, well, I don't understand, like
Speaker 8: the Cowboys lead every conversation award.
Speaker 1: Because he's a Cowboy, So I don't know.
Speaker 2: Right, Finally in the news and this.
Speaker 11: Would be the third large and create one long trans
Speaker 11: continental flight home for the Chargers. Leywan Jacksonville can set
Speaker 11: their sights likely on Kansas City.
Speaker 2: Here we go for the win. Got it, But there's
Speaker 2: a flag down.
Speaker 9: There's a flag down as everybody's running out onto the field,
Speaker 9: but there's a penalty marking. Oh fuckfense, and they call
Speaker 9: it on the defense.
Speaker 13: Unbelievable.
Speaker 2: That is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: That was the call from Al Michaels with Tony Dungee
Speaker 1: of last season, last year's wild wild Card game between
Speaker 1: the Jaguars and Chargers, a game that the Jaguars wiped out.
Speaker 2: What was it a twenty seven? Nothing? Was that game? Yes?
Speaker 1: And that might be the last call Al Michaels ever
Speaker 1: makes in a playoff game, because it emerged yesterday in
Speaker 1: a report from of course our guy Andrew Marshan of
Speaker 1: the New York Post that Michael's seventy nine years old
Speaker 1: now will not be on the air when NBC has
Speaker 1: a primetime availability or has a playoff game availability. So
Speaker 1: he was in line to, like last year, call one
Speaker 1: of the playoff games, and it came out that they're
Speaker 1: going to actually use their college guys, Noah Eagle and
Speaker 1: Todd Blackledge, so they sideline Al. And this was a
Speaker 1: surprise to Al because in an earlier conversation with Marshon
Speaker 1: about a month or so ago, he had no idea
Speaker 1: that that was even a possibility, So I'm sure he's.
Speaker 2: Furious about it.
Speaker 1: And it's this is the way Mark, you know, they
Speaker 1: you know this this whole insider like media reporting business
Speaker 1: with these guys. It's kind of an ugly way for
Speaker 1: al Michael's legacy to be wrapping up here with being
Speaker 1: told he's benched at being reported this way. But I
Speaker 1: felt it was a noteworthy because we've been talking about
Speaker 1: al and and how he's not quite the same the
Speaker 1: last couple of year.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think like anyone can see that, you know,
Speaker 6: al Michaels, who for as long as we've been alive
Speaker 6: has been like the a number one legend and his
Speaker 6: career largely pristrie, pristine, and he does it all. You
Speaker 6: don't get guys like this that announce every sport and
Speaker 6: have an ability to do it all really excellently. And
Speaker 6: like I just made me think, like when I saw this,
Speaker 6: like nothing ends well half the time, Like it's hard
Speaker 6: to be the person, the rare person that your final
Speaker 6: moment is, you know, Peyton Manning and a bad season
Speaker 6: walking out with a super Bowl title, and it's like
Speaker 6: it's tough when you're your job is to be enthusiastic
Speaker 6: to bring fire, to be on that call, which was
Speaker 6: so lacklustering, got so much attention and there was confusion
Speaker 6: like age affects all that, and it's like you're finally
Speaker 6: starting to see like the dotting up of age and
Speaker 6: like you know, how like are you the center of
Speaker 6: this like call all this like game this moment And
Speaker 6: it's not been the same al Michaels. I still think though,
Speaker 6: when you hear him interviews and stuff, there is this
Speaker 6: thing to him that no one else has, and I
Speaker 6: kind of hate it because he's been in our lives
Speaker 6: and in our ears and on our television sets for
Speaker 6: the entire time.
Speaker 7: The crazy part is NBC actually has more playoff games
Speaker 7: this year. They have three on wild Card weekend. One
Speaker 7: of them is just on Peacock, which is the most.
Speaker 7: You know, They've never had three games like that, So yeah,
Speaker 7: something goes on. It is sad he hasn't been set
Speaker 7: up well at Amazon, you know. Listening to watching some
Speaker 7: of the college football playoffs, I was like, oh, this
Speaker 7: is fun seeing Kirk carve Street excited about a football game.
Speaker 2: It really bothers me.
Speaker 7: It's like, this is the number one sport and I
Speaker 7: know college football and the NFL is the same sport,
Speaker 7: but it was the same reason why I always didn't
Speaker 7: like cost this on NBC. It's the number one sport
Speaker 7: in our country. You got to have guys that it's
Speaker 7: their number one sport. That's a Herb Street side point.
Speaker 7: But it's been on my mind, and I think it
Speaker 7: hasn't helped out out, But also the schedule hasn't and
Speaker 7: he hasn't helped himself out. I think I think it's
Speaker 7: deserved too, but it just I.
Speaker 1: Think you definitely should have Al on the call while
Speaker 1: he's still around. So I disagree fundamentally about this, and
Speaker 1: I think it's not a nice thing to do for
Speaker 1: a guy who's absolutely still capable of calling the game.
Speaker 2: And I also want to say, just like.
Speaker 7: There's better guys out there, like I an Eagle, Kevin Harlan,
Speaker 7: a lot of guys. To me, there's guys way ahead
Speaker 7: of Al that it's like those guys should be on.
Speaker 5: But don't do that.
Speaker 6: The problem is now we're all talking about it, like
Speaker 6: let him do the playoff game and then you make
Speaker 6: your offseason change.
Speaker 5: It might be a.
Speaker 2: Personal it might be a personal thing.
Speaker 7: Though there's things that we don't know that often affect
Speaker 7: these sort of things, and it's like, you know what
Speaker 7: I mean, like you said about walking away at the
Speaker 7: right time, and I think ego is part of that too.
Speaker 7: John Madden did it perfectly, But you got to be
Speaker 7: really looking forward to that next part. You got to
Speaker 7: be just ready to like give all that up. And
Speaker 7: it's a lot to give up.
Speaker 8: Even when he's like not excited about the games though,
Speaker 8: it's it's still al Michaels and you still have that
Speaker 8: that comfort in the familiarity of watching so many games
Speaker 8: with him over the years.
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying that the better choice or whatever
Speaker 1: at this stage, but when you Owl was only gonna
Speaker 1: be around a couple more years doing this, and so
Speaker 1: as someone who's grown up with him, I'm perfect perfectly
Speaker 1: comfortable giving him that playoff game and letting him enjoy it.
Speaker 1: And like you said, make that change, uh if you want,
Speaker 1: after the I don't know. I just don't like the
Speaker 1: way it was handled, and I don't like that if
Speaker 1: that was his last game, they gave him Dungee, and
Speaker 1: Dungee was more the problem than Al on that telecast,
Speaker 1: and a kind of got dragged into it. Dungee was brutal.
Speaker 1: He was so boring and dry. Uh whatever.
Speaker 4: I don't know why they thought that was going to
Speaker 4: be a good idea in the first place.
Speaker 7: We're gonna we're gonna definitely getting texts from our friends
Speaker 7: here the business on this one.
Speaker 14: I like it.
Speaker 1: That's what's happening in the news. We'll be right back.
Speaker 1: Hits some odd couples, right, Welcome.
Speaker 2: Back, Lessen.
Speaker 4: I love his sting. I love his sting.
Speaker 1: This thing has been a regular part of the shows. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's uh, it just feels feels a little more official.
Speaker 4: Uh huh. I like it. The production value, all the
Speaker 4: bells and whistles. You guys are doing great.
Speaker 2: Let's hit it again.
Speaker 1: It's so fall Just hit it again, all right, Welcome
Speaker 1: back around the NFL. NFL odd couples. Okay, what are
Speaker 1: what are some unlikely bedfellows? How about that Greg is
Speaker 1: your brain child?
Speaker 2: Well, I really give Colleen credit.
Speaker 7: We're we're on a text thread and she sent us
Speaker 7: the Trench and Update yesterday with the headline looks like
Speaker 7: Kevin Kostner and Jewel really are a thing, which was
Speaker 7: news to me. I didn't know there was there was
Speaker 7: news about that. I clicked on the link. There's some pictures.
Speaker 7: Pretty surprising now.
Speaker 8: I said this because I know that Mark has always
Speaker 8: really enjoyed Jewel, and when I first moved to la
Speaker 8: in twenty fourteen, I lived across the street from a
Speaker 8: karaoke bar called the Gaslight, and Jewel famously had been
Speaker 8: there singing before in disguise. I believe, yes, Mark told
Speaker 8: me about that, and I never forgot about it. And
Speaker 8: now anytime I see anything Jewel related, I have to
Speaker 8: send it out.
Speaker 4: Now, there hasn't been a lot lately, but this, well.
Speaker 7: She she did have an NFL connection, one, stated Charlie Whitehurst.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was weird. Former Seahawks and.
Speaker 5: Down in Rocky Top.
Speaker 7: So that was a bit of that was a bit
Speaker 7: of an odd couple. I would say, Jewel and Costner
Speaker 7: definitely an odd couple. And look own I owned the
Speaker 7: CD Pieces of You back in the day. Who didn't,
Speaker 7: and so I was trying to I was thinking we
Speaker 7: should think of some NFL odd couples.
Speaker 2: Yes, Jess of you, I did. I did. I think
Speaker 2: it was part of an achievement.
Speaker 1: It was like a massively I didn't know many teenage
Speaker 1: guys that had pieces of you.
Speaker 2: That pieces of you.
Speaker 5: I wasn't, yeah, but it was.
Speaker 7: It wasn't just like it was like, it wasn't just
Speaker 7: for girls. It was Yeah, I was a freshman in
Speaker 7: high school. I think I got it as part of that.
Speaker 7: You remember you get the eight CDs from Columbia House.
Speaker 2: Sure, Penny off.
Speaker 1: The brakes a little bit here. First of all, jewel
Speaker 1: isn't just for girls. But I I follow music pretty closely,
Speaker 1: and I know a lot of people that love I've
Speaker 1: never seen a guy that had pieces of youelcase.
Speaker 7: I just would like to point out she's just sold
Speaker 7: over thirty million albums worldwide.
Speaker 4: Who Soul?
Speaker 14: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think names I meant.
Speaker 5: A bad song on that album?
Speaker 2: So who? So? Who is?
Speaker 5: I'm surprised by your take.
Speaker 2: Dan, Yeah, what's my take? What's my take?
Speaker 5: Jewel?
Speaker 2: You said, I love I love jewels.
Speaker 5: Guy would never have a jewel that I've said her
Speaker 5: in what case?
Speaker 2: I said?
Speaker 5: I never?
Speaker 1: I never met I never met somebody a man that
Speaker 1: had Jewel City. Maybe they just and this will be
Speaker 1: now turned around to me being some type of massage.
Speaker 1: Now I'm just telling you from my human experience, that's cool.
Speaker 7: I ever know manologizers think they did own They did
Speaker 7: own it, but their own internalized misogyny and their fear
Speaker 7: of you. They didn't tell you about it. They were
Speaker 7: ashamed everybody about the sun Jewel fans we're taking over
Speaker 7: twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Everybody give themselves a round of applause for being so
Speaker 1: open minded jewelheads.
Speaker 7: So who is the jewel Kevin Costner couples in the NFL.
Speaker 7: That's what I asked, And I'm going to start with
Speaker 7: someone that's maybe around Jewel's age. I don't know how
Speaker 7: old she is. It's Joe Flacco. Him being back in
Speaker 7: our life with Kevin Stefanski, to me was the first
Speaker 7: thing that came to my mind. And I think you
Speaker 7: could even extend this to Joe Flacco and Mark Sessler
Speaker 7: as an NFL odd couple, and the Browns fans writ
Speaker 7: large finding themselves in twenty twenty three rooting for Joe Flacco,
Speaker 7: the guy who ripped their heart out for so many years,
Speaker 7: dominating them with the Ravens. All this cross pollination and
Speaker 7: these two guys and Kevin Stefanski having a quarterback that
Speaker 7: is gonna make some mistakes, but also we'll just throw
Speaker 7: the ball to where Stefanski wants to open receivers, and
Speaker 7: it's a rare couple. And you see couples out there
Speaker 7: like this that kind of look alike. Something Joe Flacco
Speaker 7: was asked about this week, but he was saying that
Speaker 7: last week.
Speaker 11: I mean, you know, I'm a guy with a beard.
Speaker 3: I could shave it off and look completely different tomorrow,
Speaker 3: so I probably should.
Speaker 5: It's just playing into the fact that I'm an older quarterback.
Speaker 2: If I shaved this off, it would probably take five
Speaker 2: years off. I love this.
Speaker 4: His accent is so good. It reminds me of home.
Speaker 5: I love this.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, uh huh, Autoba, New Jersey.
Speaker 7: They're like around the same age, the Fanski and Flat
Speaker 7: a couple couple of years apart here, and it's a
Speaker 7: great one. It's a it's a moment in time and
Speaker 7: we'll see where it goes. But I think they're a
Speaker 7: pretty legitimate timough they have some injuries, and I think
Speaker 7: Stefanski loves showing I am a good offensive coach.
Speaker 2: I think Flacco has helped him.
Speaker 1: He has been good.
Speaker 2: He's brought out the best and his unlikely partner.
Speaker 6: They've lost three offensive tackles they just lost another one.
Speaker 6: There's not I don't know how deeper into the NFL,
Speaker 6: you know, free agent circles and stuff you can do
Speaker 6: to solve that. But it is a little different than
Speaker 6: the like Big Ben was twenty six, two and one
Speaker 6: against the Browns and largely like probably the most hated
Speaker 6: opponent for Browns fans around, just because of how like
Speaker 6: he'd led to stick it in their face.
Speaker 5: Flacco was never that way, That's all I'd say.
Speaker 6: I mean, he also was eighteen and three, the second
Speaker 6: best record at the point when he won in Cleveland.
Speaker 7: He was eighteen and three against the Browns, and you're
Speaker 7: saying it wasn't that bad. So I'm saying compared to everybody, yeah,
Speaker 7: that's eighteen and three. I would just say praise as
Speaker 7: much as I distaste, much as distaste I had for
Speaker 7: the Ravens, wasn't like Flacco based so much with a
Speaker 7: bunch of other knuckleheads on that team that drove me
Speaker 7: not to see he's just kind of crazy. Though if
Speaker 7: you had said this before the season.
Speaker 5: It's a totally on site.
Speaker 6: But I would say it's done a nice job of
Speaker 6: like in his stuff, like in the locker room, last week.
Speaker 5: He's very happy to be there.
Speaker 6: And there's a different kind of field to Joe Flacco,
Speaker 6: and he's been a different athlete than we saw on
Speaker 6: the Jets.
Speaker 2: I disagree with that.
Speaker 1: Well, at least like he looks fresh. He has a
Speaker 1: better offensive line around him. I think that matters out.
Speaker 1: I mean, he could throw, he could always throw.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying seeing him this way and we'll see if
Speaker 1: it keeps up.
Speaker 8: It's just so weird to see him in a Browns jersey,
Speaker 8: and it's like Joe Flacco being a brown is the
Speaker 8: most twenty twenty three on brand thing for the NFL.
Speaker 8: Like all of the different quarterbacks that we've seen. I
Speaker 8: think it's this week when Nick Bolton, when Nick Mullen starts,
Speaker 8: and when Easton Stick starts, it will be fifty seven
Speaker 8: different starting quarterbacks this season.
Speaker 7: Being problematic putting ten rookies, which is but they've been.
Speaker 5: Some of the more fun quarterbacks. Actually they have.
Speaker 7: Actually Easton Stick one gorgeous throw the other Colleen, I
Speaker 7: want to hear yours because you said you had five.
Speaker 4: Okay, so this one.
Speaker 8: I cannot stop following all of the like everyone else
Speaker 8: right now. But I'm completely in love with the DeVito
Speaker 8: family and Tommy DeVito and everything that they have following them,
Speaker 8: And so for me, the odd couple is Tommy DeVito
Speaker 8: and the rest of the NFC East fans, because I
Speaker 8: know that I'm not alone in this, and I feel
Speaker 8: I felt so strange watching Tommy DeVito and almost rooting
Speaker 8: for the Giants on Monday Night. It felt super wrong,
Speaker 8: but there was something exciting about it at the same time.
Speaker 4: And just like having been in New York last week,
Speaker 4: I went over to Brooklyn. I got some pizza. You
Speaker 4: guys know, I love sandwiches.
Speaker 8: Like I feel like I essentially grew up Italian because
Speaker 8: like that's just our Our family is not Italian, but
Speaker 8: we act like Italians and we love everything about Italian
Speaker 8: Americans and Italians in general.
Speaker 4: So it's like this story is so fun.
Speaker 8: I'm currently trying to convince the network to like send
Speaker 8: me to the Giants Eagles game on Christmas Day so
Speaker 8: I can tailgate with the DeVito's because I really really
Speaker 8: want them to do the seven fishes in the parking lot.
Speaker 2: Do it the seventh Fishes. Look it up if you
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: I have a take on that I think because Eagles
Speaker 1: fans hate the Giants and vice versa.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's more so than the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, have to play them twice here down the stretch
Speaker 1: and they are playing twice, that's right, And but here.
Speaker 1: I think part of it makes this Divito thing so
Speaker 1: kind of fun is that it's also kind of a
Speaker 1: safe thing because you know Divito. It's not like if
Speaker 1: Divito was actually the guy that is here to save
Speaker 1: the Giants, you probably be more afraid of them or like,
Speaker 1: oh god, this is they found somebody, it's amazing. But
Speaker 1: instead he's more just like this like twenty twenty three
Speaker 1: fun found story that you know is probably a moment
Speaker 1: in time.
Speaker 2: So it's like, oh, I root for this guy. He's
Speaker 2: not right.
Speaker 4: The Giants are bad, so it's not it's easier now.
Speaker 1: If you were like battling for first place right now
Speaker 1: and he was actually bawling out on a high level,
Speaker 1: I think it would be a little different, maybe.
Speaker 8: A little different, a little different, And I probably will
Speaker 8: feel different if the Giants beat the Eagles on Christmas Day, Yeah.
Speaker 5: You might feel a little different then, But.
Speaker 8: In the lead up to it, right now, I mean,
Speaker 8: my heart right now is with the defeatos very nice
Speaker 8: and the agent the whole thing.
Speaker 2: The agent is, Oh, I hope he's busy. I hope
Speaker 2: he's been doing his job. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4: The agent, Yeah, oh, I mean he's got a lot
Speaker 4: of jobs. You kidding me? That guy.
Speaker 2: He's getting up early, he's got.
Speaker 4: Waste management, he's got tow trucks.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to Obviously, he became a big story immediately
Speaker 1: on Monday night, and then Tuesday he was everywhere and
Speaker 1: doing media and everything. And then I clicked into his
Speaker 1: instagram Sean Stillado is it.
Speaker 4: My agent was with them that night too?
Speaker 1: Yeah, hello, and that's funny. And there was like an
Speaker 1: Instagram post from I think it was like months ago,
Speaker 1: and it was like welcome Sean Stillado to the Boston
Speaker 1: Italian American Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: And am I what am I missing?
Speaker 13: Here?
Speaker 1: Is this guy a well known person? This is before
Speaker 1: any of the the Vidomania.
Speaker 5: Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: So he's obviously done things in his career. I know that.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's established. I'm just curious what his other
Speaker 1: successes in life.
Speaker 6: Some under the radar, I imagine, all right, Mark uh
Speaker 6: I want to double back on something we were mentioning
Speaker 6: earlier with this, which is the Chargers and I have
Speaker 6: been doing some research and I would like to file
Speaker 6: a report on the Chargers. Okay, So not every coupling
Speaker 6: is just like, hey, one person in the other person,
Speaker 6: we're having a great time. It's like, think, you know,
Speaker 6: we live in a multifaceted universe, right, So I look
Speaker 6: around the league, and I look at the Chargers, and
Speaker 6: I spot up polyamorous relationship on the Rocks. So it
Speaker 6: you know, it always it started with an air of adventure,
Speaker 6: right right, and these thy they always do these things.
Speaker 6: There was so much to like, a star quarterback and
Speaker 6: Justin Herbert, a bright, young, new thinking coach, and Brandon Staley,
Speaker 6: Joey Bosa, Derwin James, talented bodies on both sides of
Speaker 6: the ball, all living together and sharing meals and passion
Speaker 6: and you know, one shared vision of love on a
Speaker 6: grand scale. People say, we can't live like this, but
Speaker 6: they don't know, as the Chargers said to themselves. But
Speaker 6: then little attachments and jealousies started to form. Some became
Speaker 6: self interested, and internal questions began to rise, asking if
Speaker 6: this polyamorous arrangement you know, Herbert Staley, Kellen Moore, Tom Telesco,
Speaker 6: Keenan Allen, he always banged up, Mike Williams. An ownership
Speaker 6: group that left its fan base to wither in the
Speaker 6: San Diego dust was functional or fantasy. And right now,
Speaker 6: I imagine them all gathered in the living room of
Speaker 6: their large group home talking about why they began this
Speaker 6: love experien in the first place, to live in a
Speaker 6: way nobody thought possible, to cast off the old, petty,
Speaker 6: toxic qualities that ended all their relationships prior.
Speaker 5: But it's just not working.
Speaker 6: It was just a phase in life, an exploration of boundaries,
Speaker 6: a time they'll never forget. But the breakup is overt
Speaker 6: and imminent.
Speaker 4: I hate that for them.
Speaker 2: I can't go forever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they thought it could.
Speaker 8: They thought that they could have this lifestyle that everyone
Speaker 8: said no, like, this is why most people don't do it,
Speaker 8: this is why it doesn't work out.
Speaker 4: And they said no, look watch us. And now they're
Speaker 4: in this situation.
Speaker 1: Where everyone everyone thinks they're a special little flower.
Speaker 5: Yeah right, it's like true.
Speaker 2: This is what you learn.
Speaker 7: You know at the end of every you know, multi
Speaker 7: part docu series about a cult. But It's like the
Speaker 7: Chargers were hoping for like eight episodes and they only
Speaker 7: got three, you know, just shortened down to.
Speaker 2: Real tough sitch. But it's weird.
Speaker 1: We didn't never got the like the the honeymoon phase
Speaker 1: with this team.
Speaker 4: Just it's just so.
Speaker 2: A bunch of games to make the playoffs.
Speaker 4: It was over before it started, all right.
Speaker 1: So I kind of went Connie here and and I
Speaker 1: took nfl odd couples to mean something a little bit different,
Speaker 1: but this will work. So the odd couple for me
Speaker 1: is the Kansas City Chiefs and then them being in
Speaker 1: cahoots or in the role of.
Speaker 2: The bad guys. It's not happened before. This is new.
Speaker 1: And this is after a Sunday in which Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: and Andy Reid both got after the officials and you know,
Speaker 1: bemoaned how they're being targeted or you know, failures by
Speaker 1: officiating or happening over and over again. And this comes
Speaker 1: from a team that's had nothing but monumental success for years.
Speaker 1: Do you have Mahomes To Mahomes' credit, when things calmed
Speaker 1: down and he realized that, you know, I got it,
Speaker 1: I should probably hit the accelerator a little too hard.
Speaker 1: He spoke to the media with regrets about how things
Speaker 1: played out.
Speaker 2: This was yesterday.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, obviously you don't want to react that way.
Speaker 15: I just I mean, I care, man, I love it,
Speaker 15: I love I love this game, I love my teammates,
Speaker 15: and I want to go out there and put everything
Speaker 15: on the line to win. But obviously can't can't do that,
Speaker 15: I mean, can't be that way towards officials or really
Speaker 15: anybody in life. So probably regret acting like that, but
Speaker 15: more than anything, I mean as I regretted it the
Speaker 15: way I acted towards Josh after the game, because he
Speaker 15: had nothing, nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1: And that's the drive Odystly six y ten Sports Radio.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 1: He appeared on and said that, and you know what,
Speaker 1: good That's fine with me. And I love I love
Speaker 1: Mahomes the player, and I think he's good guy, and
Speaker 1: that him saying that, I don't carry any ill.
Speaker 2: Will at all toward him.
Speaker 1: However, I just think you heard so much a vitriol
Speaker 1: toward them and the reaction to that that people are
Speaker 1: just sick of the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: And this is a.
Speaker 1: Team that hasn't won eleven hasn't won less than eleven games.
Speaker 2: Since twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, as everyone knows, has never played a road
Speaker 1: game in the playoffs. He's They're always a top seed.
Speaker 1: The last five years for the Chiefs have gone AFC
Speaker 1: Title Game, super Bowl win, super Bowl loss, AFC Title Game,
Speaker 1: super Bowl win. The regular season record in the Mahomes
Speaker 1: era entering the season sixty four in eighteen. Mahomes obviously
Speaker 1: multiple MVPs, multiple Super Bowl MVPs. Andy Reid, the head coach,
Speaker 1: was a guy that you rooted for because he never
Speaker 1: got over the hill, never got over to the mountaintop.
Speaker 2: He's done that now twice.
Speaker 1: And in general, the there is this vibe that everyone
Speaker 1: is okay with the Chiefs getting their come up and
Speaker 1: because they've gotten some calls over the year themselves. I
Speaker 1: remember that Jet Sunday Night game. I was mad about
Speaker 1: that game, and it was like, why did the Chiefs
Speaker 1: always get the calls? Was like it always used to
Speaker 1: be the Super Bowl? How about the Eagles and the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl? So it's like, uh, that makes sense too,
Speaker 1: that there's a growing sentiment like.
Speaker 2: Enough of these guys.
Speaker 8: Well, It's like when I was watching Patrick Mahomes at
Speaker 8: the end of that game, I thought to myself, that
Speaker 8: is the reaction of someone who is not used to losing.
Speaker 4: And it was it was all over the place.
Speaker 8: He was so furious and I could not stop watching.
Speaker 8: I wish that there was more camera shots of him.
Speaker 2: I want toomes it's like from.
Speaker 8: Sides of buildings to see every single shot of him,
Speaker 8: because we're just not used to seeing anything really negative
Speaker 8: with this team, them really face any true adversity and
Speaker 8: any any real flaws come out, and now we are,
Speaker 8: and it sort of makes it easier to be like, well,
Speaker 8: let's let's see more what happens now when you put
Speaker 8: even more pressure on them, and and will they break
Speaker 8: under it.
Speaker 6: I think about like that eleven and five Patriots team
Speaker 6: that started oh and two and like they Belichick was
Speaker 6: on the rocks, and when they went and beat the
Speaker 6: Rams in the Super Bowl, like vast amounts of the
Speaker 6: country were delighted by that because they had been that
Speaker 6: team that were on the outside and like they were
Speaker 6: lovable winners and it was this great time, like you.
Speaker 2: Knows are superpower at that point they.
Speaker 6: Weren't, and so that you know, it was just post
Speaker 6: nine to eleven, it was just like something felt kind
Speaker 6: of pure and great about it. The next year they
Speaker 6: don't even make the playoffs, so it's like they're not
Speaker 6: bothering us. But then they go win two straight Super
Speaker 6: Bowls and never even two thousand.
Speaker 2: And three year.
Speaker 7: People weren't like sick of them then because they never
Speaker 7: expected to do it that two thousand.
Speaker 5: And three, like they they had not made the playoffs.
Speaker 6: He was like, the Chiefs have been as close as
Speaker 6: we have to the next dynasty, and they've been perfect,
Speaker 6: and like even last year, it's like, oh, Mahomes has
Speaker 6: like a high ankle spring and then he's like, oh,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna have my greatest rushing game in the playoffs.
Speaker 6: It's like not whatever adversity they faced by Sunday, like
Speaker 6: they overcame it. Like this is a different place, but
Speaker 6: it's just exhaustion in sports, Like we're always craving. If
Speaker 6: you're lere Chiefs fan, you want a new story.
Speaker 5: It's it's tough.
Speaker 6: I think it's tough for Tony Roman to say the
Speaker 6: same stuff about Patrick Mahomes over and over.
Speaker 5: So it's like, show us someone new.
Speaker 6: Tommy DeVito is a fascination because it's like no one
Speaker 6: expected the human being to be in our life.
Speaker 7: They hate us because they ain't us. You know it,
Speaker 7: no matter who you are at the top, it's gonna
Speaker 7: be like that. And the Chiefs are a great test
Speaker 7: for it because they are about as likable. Like in
Speaker 7: the end, Andy Reid is still going to be the
Speaker 7: guy moving his fingers trying to get those little nuggies.
Speaker 2: You know you're not gonna not like Andy Reid. You
Speaker 2: gotta love them.
Speaker 1: And Mahomes is a nice guy.
Speaker 7: The next day he's apologized, even like Tom Brady when
Speaker 7: you really pull it back, was like a tough guy
Speaker 7: to truly hate, but he was easier. He obviously had
Speaker 7: the flake Gate and all that stuff, but like in
Speaker 7: interviews and stuff, but Mahomes is even more difficult to dislike.
Speaker 1: Patriots were perfect for the role because they were great
Speaker 1: for longer, they were in multiple scandals, and Belichick is Belichick.
Speaker 1: It was it was kind of everything wanted to everything
Speaker 1: made sense, so they were easy to hate. The Chiefs
Speaker 1: not as easy. And yet I feel like these people
Speaker 1: are starting.
Speaker 7: To you just get bored, just want something new, especially
Speaker 7: after last year.
Speaker 2: Who wants to go? Who's got another one? Okay, I
Speaker 2: figure we're only gonna I'm only gonna go a second time, right,
Speaker 2: So this is it?
Speaker 1: Greg?
Speaker 2: Make it count right? The speed?
Speaker 7: What round of the ones they pat you know, Alan
Speaker 7: and Diggs, I think was kind of a fun one.
Speaker 2: That thing is still going on. That's weird.
Speaker 7: Uh, Mick mc Mike McDaniel and Mick Fangio would be
Speaker 7: a classic sort of buddy cop thing where it's the
Speaker 7: young wise crack and the old curmudgeon coming together to
Speaker 7: do a great coaching job. But I'm gonna go. Jake
Speaker 7: Browning and Zach Taylor just showing us like they're not
Speaker 7: just uh guys that were made by Joe Burrow and
Speaker 7: they're doing they're making each other better. These It's like
Speaker 7: it's like a couple where like maybe neither of them
Speaker 7: caught your eye and then suddenly they're out together and
Speaker 7: you're like, damn, they're both pretty hot. Like this is
Speaker 7: a totally different what Bengals, I don't know, different, This
Speaker 7: is a different Bengal offense completely than it was with
Speaker 7: Joe Burrow. And it's I know it's not gonna last
Speaker 7: like this, but the numbers are the numbers. Two of
Speaker 7: their three best offensive games of the year, really their
Speaker 7: two best offensive games were by Jake Browning, they weren't
Speaker 7: by Joe Burrow. Like that is pretty crazy by EPA,
Speaker 7: per play by yards, everything like that. They've actually done
Speaker 7: better in the last two weeks than any Burrow game
Speaker 7: this year except for the forty nine Ers game. And
Speaker 7: no one's saying, obviously that they can stay at the
Speaker 7: level or he's anything like Burrow. But I give Taylor
Speaker 7: a ton of credit because instead of it being Burrow's offense,
Speaker 7: where it's five, you know, everyone's spread out and I'm
Speaker 7: just gonna figure everything out and I'm sort of the coach. Ultimately,
Speaker 7: it's back to what Zach Taylor came from, and this
Speaker 7: matchup will get into it, but I just want to
Speaker 7: point them out. Especially this is a great matchup for
Speaker 7: it because he's part of that McVay tree, and it
Speaker 7: looks like those teams. It's way more play action, it's
Speaker 7: way under it's much more under center. It's screen game,
Speaker 7: and you know what, Like it's kind of helping some
Speaker 7: of the people around them do their best. Again, it's
Speaker 7: not a long term thing, but I really admire the
Speaker 7: way they've adapted those two, specifically as a couple, because
Speaker 7: Brownie's playing great. We thought he was gonna he was
Speaker 7: an example of Oh these garbage backup quarterbacks that don't
Speaker 7: deserve to play. They knew something, and Zach Taylor's showing
Speaker 7: us something with what they've been doing.
Speaker 6: This is the year where like a lot of coaches
Speaker 6: have had to deal with this and some have survived,
Speaker 6: like Shane Steichen and Gardner Minshew have survived, like this
Speaker 6: pair have survived.
Speaker 7: They've survived like with terrible, not terrible, but poor quarterbacks.
Speaker 5: A contrast too, I.
Speaker 6: Can think of a couple teams where you lose your starter.
Speaker 6: It's like curtains. It's total curtains, and it does. There
Speaker 6: are a couple of coaches that were hired to develop
Speaker 6: quarterbacks stables doing that right now. I'd say Stefanski's done
Speaker 6: it where it's like it's you're in the mix, it's working.
Speaker 6: You're interesting if you're not in the mix because you
Speaker 6: haven't gone total floughts of jets and a quarterback and you.
Speaker 7: Did it a different way, which I guess they didn't.
Speaker 7: They've done that under Zach Taylor. They've closed strong, they've
Speaker 7: kind of adapted during seasons, and I'm pretty surprise to
Speaker 7: see them putting up, you know, four hundred plus yards
Speaker 7: and thirty plus points back to back weeks.
Speaker 2: It's pretty wild.
Speaker 7: Against against decent defenses too, not against like trash bag teams.
Speaker 2: Anybody else want to throw one out, I have a.
Speaker 5: Quick one and I will keep it quick.
Speaker 6: Like we went down David Tepper Avenue with a lot
Speaker 6: of vengeance and a lot of fire, and I get it.
Speaker 2: Engines well, just like that it was fun.
Speaker 6: No no, no, but just like I mean, the whole
Speaker 6: the whole football world was like it the brand important?
Speaker 6: What no, I mean that we I think we've handled
Speaker 6: it with in a ginger and informative way. But I
Speaker 6: would say this, I think in that conversation, but so
Speaker 6: that like in that conversation, one name never came up,
Speaker 6: and I never really heard this person's name come up
Speaker 6: at all. And it makes me wonder about the coupling
Speaker 6: of David Tepper and Scott Fitter, because Scott Fitter is
Speaker 6: one of the more anonymous general managers around. And I
Speaker 6: guess you can say he has no power, maybe temper
Speaker 6: Temper's just doing everything fine, but I don't think that's
Speaker 6: the case. Like Scott Fitter is thirteen and thirty four. Uh,
Speaker 6: he made the trade to bring Bryce Young. I know
Speaker 6: it wasn't just his pick, but he is the guy
Speaker 6: on the phone negotiating a trade that looked pretty ridiculous
Speaker 6: to me.
Speaker 5: He went and got Sam Darnold. That didn't work.
Speaker 2: PJ.
Speaker 6: Walker, that didn't work, Cam new He brought Cam Newton
Speaker 6: back in that weird little dose of time.
Speaker 5: That was weird.
Speaker 6: Baker Mayfield, who's gone to Tampa to be functional, melts
Speaker 6: down there and they cut him mid season. It's been
Speaker 6: totally chaotic. It's been an absolute nightmare. Visually, it's optically
Speaker 6: one of the worst teams in the league. Their future
Speaker 6: is strange. It's gonna be tough to get a coach,
Speaker 6: and no one brings up the fact that they have
Speaker 6: a general manager that has done nothing correct.
Speaker 2: Is this an episode of Better Be Better? Well, it's
Speaker 2: a sad situation.
Speaker 13: Mark.
Speaker 6: I just think he's you know, skated by And why
Speaker 6: has he never bought.
Speaker 4: Up the new Trent Balky Because I feel like Balky
Speaker 4: a few.
Speaker 8: Years ago was getting all you know, no one wanted
Speaker 8: to work with difficult.
Speaker 1: Now here's my take on Federer Be Better at this episode,
Speaker 1: Federer probably has the worst life.
Speaker 2: In the world right now of any NFL figure.
Speaker 1: After what we were heard was happening with poor Frank
Speaker 1: Reich getting called into the office and just getting buried
Speaker 1: every Monday morning, maybe there's a reason we're not hearing
Speaker 1: from Federer and maybe he's in a dungeon somewhere.
Speaker 7: Fitter doesn't rhyme quite as easily, but it is fitter,
Speaker 7: And yeah, this feels like a pilot that's in a
Speaker 7: dark place.
Speaker 2: Fitter be better.
Speaker 7: Literally, I don't think it's making it to season one anything,
Speaker 7: so one spin off there, Well.
Speaker 1: He could land somewhere else and then that we could
Speaker 1: reboot it. So good app though, good app that's good
Speaker 1: anybody else you.
Speaker 4: Guys already hit on Mahomes.
Speaker 8: Mahomes and his receivers was one kind of odd couple
Speaker 8: Belichick and losing, but also Robert Kraft and Meek Mill
Speaker 8: is one that they are always it seems like they
Speaker 8: are at events, they have been on the jet together,
Speaker 8: and they seem to genuinely enjoy each other's company. And
Speaker 8: I would just love to be there for a conversation
Speaker 8: between the two of them, because I bet it would
Speaker 8: be kind of hilarious.
Speaker 6: Yeah, do you wonder if Robert Kraft was just a
Speaker 6: day to day Hammon Eggar, like a barber shop guy
Speaker 6: just cutting people's hair, Like does Meek Mill care about him?
Speaker 5: That there might be something else check as.
Speaker 2: A barber would be interesting.
Speaker 7: I don't think if Meek Mill is cutting hair that
Speaker 7: Robert Craft would be particularly interested.
Speaker 6: Is to be powers both ways, power magnet like I
Speaker 6: want Robert Craft listening to dreams and nightmares.
Speaker 4: I want to That's what I want to be present for.
Speaker 1: By the way, odd couples teenage and twenty something men
Speaker 1: having pieces of you, I will say, I think I
Speaker 1: had jagged little pill Alanis.
Speaker 2: I had that, Yeah, but.
Speaker 6: They seem very different from me. But that's that's a
Speaker 6: step in the right direction. I guess if that's what we're.
Speaker 2: Again, it's not the right direction. I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I can't rise to your guys level of like you
Speaker 2: didn't have to get there. I can't get there.
Speaker 6: But why does Alanis MORI set like we don want
Speaker 6: to say anything about it.
Speaker 2: I can't get there we had it.
Speaker 1: I can't get there to where you are, Greg. But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I think I had Alanis.
Speaker 7: That's all I'm saying I didn't have Alanis, but I
Speaker 7: was a big list Fair guy.
Speaker 2: You know there.
Speaker 7: I don't think she's stuck, but I had a album.
Speaker 2: I've seen that as well.
Speaker 4: I just hate that Dan hates Jewel.
Speaker 1: I just don't spark know why I liked I had
Speaker 1: Tori Amos Amos you would see some amos. Yeah.
Speaker 6: My brother went to a torri Amos concert and he's Scott.
Speaker 6: He was somehow in like the second row, and he
Speaker 6: told me that like she spent the entire show not
Speaker 6: out of attraction, like staring right into his eyes.
Speaker 5: Like there was a little bit of anger in some
Speaker 5: of her music.
Speaker 2: And I think like maybe she like or something.
Speaker 5: She'll pick one person and like focus on that.
Speaker 2: I've heard of that. Yeah, I think you do that
Speaker 2: at our live shows.
Speaker 6: At our live show, I can't see anything like it's
Speaker 6: just like and also, you know, a lot's happening to Carlton.
Speaker 4: Was she in that time?
Speaker 6: That was later?
Speaker 7: I feel like I Carleton bought tickets and attended. I
Speaker 7: don't know which year it was, but it was definitely
Speaker 7: whenever Liz Fair was there the Lilith Fair with my girlfriend. Wow, yes, Wow, Greg,
Speaker 7: I think it was probably ninety seven.
Speaker 4: Find pictures someone.
Speaker 2: I'm not like, I'm just finding I just comfortable.
Speaker 1: Man. Greg Rosenthal went to Little Fair too and had
Speaker 1: the jewel cy d anything else you want to add
Speaker 1: to your resume, your CV, that's about it.
Speaker 7: I think, uh, I think Sarah McLaughlin was running that thing.
Speaker 7: Oh you know who was there, miss Missy Elliott because
Speaker 7: I remember when she walked to yeah, she went by
Speaker 7: you could touch her inflated outfit. I remember like she
Speaker 7: came up, you know, the aisle and you could get
Speaker 7: touched them that.
Speaker 2: Let's please move on that that.
Speaker 1: Sarah McLachlan album that had the building mystery.
Speaker 2: Bangers all over that one.
Speaker 1: Yeahdle Surfacing I believed also.
Speaker 2: A little affair. We're all work, all right? Where are
Speaker 2: we at? We good with this? Please? All right?
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're out here.
Speaker 1: Let's finish up with a fun way to hit these
Speaker 1: previews because we got four to hit. There's a there's
Speaker 1: a Saturday triple header, so that's starting now and we
Speaker 1: have Thursday night football. So all right, do you have
Speaker 1: like how we don't want to clock it? Is that
Speaker 1: what we want to do three minutes? Is that what
Speaker 1: we want to do three minutes is good?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: How about this just so we have a little bit,
Speaker 1: let the person set it up and then start the clock. Okay,
Speaker 1: and let's start with Thursday night football. So let's go
Speaker 1: in order here time wise.
Speaker 7: Greg, I feel like I want to donate one of
Speaker 7: the minutes to a different game.
Speaker 1: Is that allowed? We already talked to Herbert, Yeah, do
Speaker 1: your best. Here we go Chargers Raiders go ahead.
Speaker 7: Okay, so we got easton stick starting against a quarterback
Speaker 7: to be named later. We think it's no it is
Speaker 7: eight and o'conna one last time. I guess that would
Speaker 7: be where I start. If he doesn't play. Antonio Pierce
Speaker 7: has indicated, you know, maybe they'd go back to Jimmy
Speaker 7: Garoppolo despite the risk that they would be taking injury wise,
Speaker 7: and what that would mean for their contract.
Speaker 2: Why, I know, because he wants to win game.
Speaker 1: But it's same ownership that benched Car for the same reason,
Speaker 1: isn't it.
Speaker 7: That's a good point. So maybe it's just idle speculation by.
Speaker 5: Raids in a murky spot like that's not a I mean.
Speaker 7: I think it's I think they want to win AOC,
Speaker 7: you know, AOC versus Eastern stick, big type Eastern stick,
Speaker 7: had a couple of dimes. He also had some terrible
Speaker 7: throws in that one. Jimmy G is also like mister Glass.
Speaker 7: So the idea of like Derek Carr is one thing
Speaker 7: you can't even if you tried to kill Derek Carr,
Speaker 7: you can't do it.
Speaker 1: People have been trying to do it for weeks now.
Speaker 1: But Jimmy G is like, that's a real role that
Speaker 1: I send. What's for what cost?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 7: They're both five and eight, so they're technically not eliminated.
Speaker 6: I think if you're Antonio Pierce, like this matter like
Speaker 6: that a lot. Like I think he has a chance
Speaker 6: to not hopefully just be like a token head coaching.
Speaker 2: And they hurt. I mean last week hurt, but it's
Speaker 2: still got time.
Speaker 4: It did.
Speaker 6: But like they they've been a but he's they've been
Speaker 6: a better right and their defense was good, but they've
Speaker 6: been a better team. I mean, I don't know, it's
Speaker 6: like at this point both teams are kind of drifting away,
Speaker 6: Like how about if you're the Chargers and you're thinking about,
Speaker 6: you know, even next year. Like Quentin Johnson came off
Speaker 6: a game where had ninety one yards. They woul go
Speaker 6: off two big catches late, but like show us what
Speaker 6: you can do for the next month. Nothing matters, so
Speaker 6: you know the pressure's off, the pressures off, just go
Speaker 6: like a couple of these guys like we know, like
Speaker 6: you're gonna be there for the next coaching staff.
Speaker 4: Nothing does matter at this point, especially for the Chargers.
Speaker 4: Their offensive line is also a disaster.
Speaker 8: So I was looking to see who the backup is
Speaker 8: to East and Stick and it's Max Dugan.
Speaker 7: Dugan, Oh yeah, the TCU National championship guy.
Speaker 4: So uh, hopefully it doesn't come down to that.
Speaker 8: But I mean watching Max Crosby, who was hurt in
Speaker 8: that game. He still is coming off a knee injury,
Speaker 8: and he played well in that game. I think he
Speaker 8: had two sacks and so now he hasn't practiced all
Speaker 8: week either.
Speaker 4: But going up against the East and.
Speaker 7: Stick, I don't know, guys, dotsh Jacobs might miss the
Speaker 7: game too. There's a thought that maybe they'll rest some
Speaker 7: of these guys at some point, but not yet.
Speaker 1: And Devanta Adams, who's one of my favorite players to
Speaker 1: watch in the league, it's just said that he's just
Speaker 1: being wasted right now, and he had some comments this
Speaker 1: week that it was embarrassing what happened to three nothing loss?
Speaker 1: And how long did it take him? Get over it?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm moving past it. I'm not over it,
Speaker 1: but I'm past it for sure. He I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna add a lot of intrigue to the offseason because
Speaker 1: I think he it makes so much sense for them
Speaker 1: to trade him, and it's gonna it's gonna give them
Speaker 1: a premium draft pick, and it's him at age thirty
Speaker 1: one or whatever. It is going to a contender and
Speaker 1: unlikely a quarterback who can get him the ball. So
Speaker 1: he's I think in his final games as a Raider
Speaker 1: two anything else.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Rogers Raiders guys, you can watch the Thursday night
Speaker 8: Game Day kickoff on NFL Network. We get started at
Speaker 8: six pm Eastern. It's a two and a half hour
Speaker 8: pregame show.
Speaker 5: So they're add a couple of you and Steve sit
Speaker 5: talk about.
Speaker 4: Steve the best.
Speaker 2: Two and a half hours.
Speaker 1: Yep, all right, all right, let's move to Saturday and
Speaker 1: a game Vikings Bangles.
Speaker 2: What's a good one? Good one?
Speaker 1: It's an important game for two playoff hopefuls who lost
Speaker 1: their franchise quarterback. But they're in different stages right now,
Speaker 1: and it's good that you you brought up where things
Speaker 1: are of Cincinnati and the optimism.
Speaker 2: But I also think that's interesting to keep an eye on.
Speaker 1: Because the Vikings lost Cousins to the Achilles, they trade
Speaker 1: for Josh Dobbs, who balls out for two weeks. Expectations
Speaker 1: go way up in Minnesota, then they crashed down to
Speaker 1: Earth and Dobbs to the bench.
Speaker 2: Now Nick Mullin's starting, So now that.
Speaker 1: Overflowing praise that was once reserved for Dobbs, that's been
Speaker 1: shifted in some way to Jake Browning, who has hm
Speaker 1: balled out for two weeks to raise expectations in Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: and now he has to see if he can make
Speaker 1: it go more than a couple of weeks and helped
Speaker 1: takes Cincinnati to the playoffs.
Speaker 6: This game is huge for the Bengals, obviously for the
Speaker 6: Vikings too mathematically, but the Bengals are gonna walk into
Speaker 6: a buzzsaw after this.
Speaker 5: It gets tough.
Speaker 6: They are seven and six, they're exciting, and they're very intriguing,
Speaker 6: like wild card option, but they have Pittsburgh on the
Speaker 6: road after this. Then Kansas City on the road, then
Speaker 6: the Browns to close out the season. So Jake Browning
Speaker 6: is not out of the woods on any front. But
Speaker 6: I just find them watching the last two games, it's
Speaker 6: like we've lost all these teams, We've lost all these
Speaker 6: storylines and narratives and quarterbacks. It's like one of them
Speaker 6: just got revived, like came out of the grave and
Speaker 6: is like not just marching slowly towards us, but sprinting
Speaker 6: towards us.
Speaker 5: And that's why the Bengals are fascinating to me.
Speaker 1: But that's my point, like just a little bit of
Speaker 1: caution because two games, sample sizes are still small, right,
Speaker 1: and I've been hurt now by the Vikings and toobsh
Speaker 1: who is so much fun greg and now he is
Speaker 1: ancient history on that team.
Speaker 7: He might be the third quarterback this week. It is
Speaker 7: going to be Nick Mullins, who can kind of operate
Speaker 7: the offense and has been in the offense frankly for
Speaker 7: multiple years. They brought him there in a trade to
Speaker 7: be the backup quarterback, and he would have been the quarterback,
Speaker 7: not Josh Dobbs, if he wasn't on IR at the time.
Speaker 2: So I get going to him.
Speaker 7: I still like the Bengals here because their defense has
Speaker 7: played well the last couple of weeks. They've had a
Speaker 7: history of really improving late in the season. Like I met,
Speaker 7: their screencream has just been insane. So I do feel
Speaker 7: like the Jake Browning has shown a little more sustainability
Speaker 7: in terms of the way they're running their offense, but
Speaker 7: he's playing a very difficult opponent Viking sixth and Dvoa
Speaker 7: now defensively first in points allowed since week one.
Speaker 2: Well, the Vikings.
Speaker 7: And there was a quote last week from Aidan O'Connell
Speaker 7: which I think applies here, which he said, they just
Speaker 7: make it so difficult to do our normal stuff. So
Speaker 7: this is like an ultimate test here for how hot
Speaker 7: Browning is and a nice little assignment for our buddy
Speaker 7: Chris Rose, who's on the call for NFL Network.
Speaker 2: We got it.
Speaker 7: There's five games here. I'm going to be a company man,
Speaker 7: but this is a fact. There's five games this week
Speaker 7: that have two teams with winning records against him. We
Speaker 7: got three in a row on NFL Network. They lucked
Speaker 7: out with the last schedule here.
Speaker 8: I like that Zach Taylor is not only coaching the team,
Speaker 8: but now he's coaching the fans as yeah, we have that,
Speaker 8: do we.
Speaker 14: I do challenge our fans. We got outstanding fans to
Speaker 14: you know, drink one more drink and rush in the
Speaker 14: stadium and be as loud as you can humanly possibly
Speaker 14: be when Minnesota's offense is out there and help our guys.
Speaker 4: And and that challenge is one that I would accept.
Speaker 2: If I was encourage binge drinking there. It's also a
Speaker 2: one game, so let's go.
Speaker 6: It is like the counter opposite of Samwich telling the
Speaker 6: fan base to settle down and stop throwing garbage and items.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Zach Taylor.
Speaker 8: And then also Nick Mullins throwing for more yards in
Speaker 8: the fourth quarter relief effort that he had that Dobs
Speaker 8: did all game that game was such true. Let's see
Speaker 8: a little bit of something in this game from them, please.
Speaker 1: And justin Jefferson his back and that's great, and please God,
Speaker 1: please Vikings win this game, because if you don't, the
Speaker 1: team of atl becomes.
Speaker 5: No, well.
Speaker 2: We can't have that. No, I can't.
Speaker 7: I think they're going to lose this game, but they'd
Speaker 7: still be in the playoffs, they'd still be the seventh.
Speaker 5: The second time the Vikings did that to us, under
Speaker 5: the team of eight.
Speaker 2: I think then they can rally. But I think this
Speaker 2: is a tough spot. You know what foolis once, don't
Speaker 2: now you?
Speaker 5: You can't do worse than we twice.
Speaker 4: Can't get fooled again?
Speaker 2: All right? Next game? Uh, the Steelers and the Colts
Speaker 2: marked it up. All right.
Speaker 6: It prepared like a little I like to hear this
Speaker 6: because I made a little pregame show. Sets the table
Speaker 6: for you a feast. Let's hear Let's try this. If
Speaker 6: Colleen wolf Ice, skating alone at the rink and quiet
Speaker 6: darkness before school, did not dream of feeling a perfect
Speaker 6: score at the Horsesham Pennsylvania Ice Skate Fiesta, then the
Speaker 6: sliding doors nature of this life would not allow Colleen
Speaker 6: to be here today to tell us that Mitch Trubisky
Speaker 6: was a nationally televised disaster against the Patriots less than
Speaker 6: a week ago. If Greg Rosenthal had not toiled by
Speaker 6: lamplight in his teenage bedroom crafting lines of rebellion for
Speaker 6: local Massachusetts Emo Sensation Delaware, he would not be here
Speaker 6: to inform you that Pittsburgh is the first team in
Speaker 6: NFL history with a winning record to crumble and back
Speaker 6: to back outings against teams sitting a full eight games
Speaker 6: under five hundred AUCI. If Dan Hansis were not once
Speaker 6: in a parked car his tenth grade galpal Rachel Haines
Speaker 6: Saint Clair sitting shotgun listening to Z one hundred knightsoot
Speaker 6: from the old coal towns steaming up in the valley below,
Speaker 6: he would not be here right now to suggest that TJ.
Speaker 6: Watt and Alexander Highsmith are both the little banged up
Speaker 6: ahead of a skirmish between two seven and six teams.
Speaker 6: That absolutely matters to human beings who care about the
Speaker 6: AFC playoff race.
Speaker 4: Clocket well done. I like the pregame show.
Speaker 2: I don't believe in either one of them.
Speaker 6: Colleen said that Colleen is, I can come on your
Speaker 6: premiere show. I know Steve Smith would want to hear more.
Speaker 5: Come on that.
Speaker 8: Come on over, hey, we have we have a lot
Speaker 8: of time, two and a half hours, so if you
Speaker 8: want to come by and times start.
Speaker 2: You don't get invited on anything.
Speaker 1: Let's be honest. This is we're in our safe pace here.
Speaker 1: That's about it.
Speaker 2: This TJ.
Speaker 7: Watt story has gotten surprisingly little attention that he got
Speaker 7: clocked in the face to start that game. Then days later,
Speaker 7: one of the most respected coaches in the league is
Speaker 7: asked if he even undertook a concussion desk, and Mike
Speaker 7: Tomlin's straight face answer in front of the mic was
Speaker 7: I assume.
Speaker 2: So he didn't have an answer for that four days later.
Speaker 7: If this was four years ago, this would have been
Speaker 7: the raging story we're all talking about. But everyone sick
Speaker 7: of like blowing it with concussions, right, And he had
Speaker 7: to change his visor to a tinted visor that game.
Speaker 7: This is one of the superstars in the NFL, and
Speaker 7: we're doing so wrong by them, and people have I
Speaker 7: shouldn't do The people have given up because we are
Speaker 7: the people like. It's crazy to me, and I hope
Speaker 7: the NFL comes down on this a little bit they
Speaker 7: like and he's I doubt he's going to be in
Speaker 7: this game, which is quite a big deal when at.
Speaker 1: The moment that the player says, I'm okay to play,
Speaker 1: but I need a tint ad visor because the lights
Speaker 1: are an issue for me. After that hit, I took
Speaker 1: to the head someone who's got to be thinking bigger
Speaker 1: than we need to win this game tonight.
Speaker 2: And then that obviously wasn't happening there.
Speaker 6: In this same matchup, Like there was a hit that
Speaker 6: Gardner Minshew took last week when he got up, it's
Speaker 6: happening he folded to the So I don't know, like
Speaker 6: I think it just seems like I will get you
Speaker 6: on on where Tomlin should have been four days later,
Speaker 6: but like during the game.
Speaker 7: But that's on the NFL, that's on the spotter, that's
Speaker 7: on the whole system, which it really feels like has
Speaker 7: taken a step back for the first time and until.
Speaker 2: You've covered as well.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean the Steelers in general are just completely
Speaker 8: self sabotaging at this point with the back to back
Speaker 8: losses against really bad teams. And I know traditionally, even
Speaker 8: when Big Ben played there, that was always their thing.
Speaker 8: They would lose to bad teams after like beating up
Speaker 8: really good teams. And now they're in this race where
Speaker 8: they can't afford to lose because they're racing for the
Speaker 8: wild card. Pittsburgh, Houston, the Colts, they're all in it together,
Speaker 8: which makes it kind of a fun game here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Cults are the type of team
Speaker 1: that they're always going to play close games, So part
Speaker 1: of me wants to totally right off the Steelers, because
Speaker 1: that's as bad ache five day stretch as you're going
Speaker 1: to see in terms of a team like telling on
Speaker 1: itself and saying, oh, we're not for real, like you
Speaker 1: had your suspicions and then we prove proven all those.
Speaker 2: But like it's the cults.
Speaker 1: Like so, there is definitely a scenario where they win
Speaker 1: a game by three points here and they won a
Speaker 1: twenty one eighteen game and they're eight and six and
Speaker 1: in good position for the playoffs. Just that's just the
Speaker 1: state of the.
Speaker 2: Seven and six mayhem it is.
Speaker 4: It's chaos.
Speaker 7: We still don't have to take him seriously though, now
Speaker 7: neither of these teams I can. It's weird mentally, like
Speaker 7: played I thought okay last week for once, and they
Speaker 7: scored one touchdown and usually he plays terrible and they
Speaker 7: scored like thirty points.
Speaker 2: The team makes no sense. What was the name of
Speaker 2: what was the name of the girl, Mary Claire.
Speaker 6: It's factual, so you should know, but it was my
Speaker 6: memories Froggy Rachel Haynes, Saint Clair, Rachel Hayne from the
Speaker 6: Saint Clair family from THO.
Speaker 7: So was that a Rachel Haynes was one of those
Speaker 7: two Naghbers or that's their middle name.
Speaker 8: That's the Haynes, like the fortune right, Yes, those airs combined,
Speaker 8: the Saint Clair Fortune Haynes.
Speaker 5: And you were like long.
Speaker 2: Time since then, I guess it just got foggy.
Speaker 1: You weren't into the money part of it. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: that wasn't important to me, all right. Finally, Connie gives
Speaker 1: a little uh Detroit Denver breakdown.
Speaker 4: The prime time game of the triple header.
Speaker 2: Where you going to be?
Speaker 8: I will be there, Oh, Detroit, I've never been. I've
Speaker 8: never been to Ford Field. I'm actually very excited about it.
Speaker 8: Nice but for many different reasons, including that Sean Payton
Speaker 8: is visiting his old pal Dan Campbell. And if you
Speaker 8: guys miss this, it's a nice little primer for this game.
Speaker 8: This is what Dan Campbell had to say about Peyton
Speaker 8: visiting him.
Speaker 13: It means we better be on our stuff because he's
Speaker 13: going to come here to try and embarrass us. That's
Speaker 13: what it means. And so that's our motivation. That's my motivation,
Speaker 13: and it's about winning.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 13: All we got to do is find a way to win. Yes,
Speaker 13: we're gonna have to be at our best, and we
Speaker 13: will be at our best.
Speaker 1: We didn't do that, but that was just naturally underneath
Speaker 1: that can't whatever.
Speaker 4: He speaks, Yeah, I mean, just like when he orders his.
Speaker 1: A speaker that was implanted in his biceps, that just
Speaker 1: rips that song out.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So, two teams with the longest play off droughts, and
Speaker 8: what was last time that the Lions have been this
Speaker 8: good this late in the season.
Speaker 4: I think it's been since the sixties.
Speaker 5: So or last week, but yes, I mean before this.
Speaker 1: The New York Jets have had a longer playoff draft,
Speaker 1: well two of the longest two.
Speaker 4: I mean they're up there.
Speaker 2: It's been very long time.
Speaker 4: Yes, So I just am.
Speaker 8: Excited to see Ford Field filled with a ton of
Speaker 8: excited Lions fans for this team.
Speaker 2: Great.
Speaker 8: This game matters so much for both of these teams.
Speaker 8: The Broncos are one game back from the Chiefs. They
Speaker 8: actually have a shot, there is a path for them
Speaker 8: to win the division. They're obviously in the wildcard race too,
Speaker 8: and then the Lions are just kind of going through
Speaker 8: it right now. This is the time of year that
Speaker 8: you want to be playing your best football, and they've
Speaker 8: lost two of three, including that huge division game to
Speaker 8: the Bears. So It's just I like the student teacher connection.
Speaker 8: Sean Payton and Dan Campbell, they go back so many years.
Speaker 8: Peyton was the Giants quarterbacks coach and then the offensive
Speaker 8: coordinator when Dan Campbell was drafted by the Giants.
Speaker 4: Campbell, if you guys didn't know, third.
Speaker 2: Round hasn't started running it?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's okay, start the clock. No one
Speaker 4: else go no, I want.
Speaker 5: To hear more about that.
Speaker 2: The line.
Speaker 8: Or certainly, yes, they were together in New Orleans, although
Speaker 8: Dan King I can vamp. You need to vamping for
Speaker 8: two and a half hours on Thursday in the pregame show.
Speaker 5: Take Us Home.
Speaker 4: So Dan Campbell, he did.
Speaker 8: He was on that Saints team, but he was hurt,
Speaker 8: I believe in training camp. However, Sean Payton made sure
Speaker 8: that he got a ring. They were together in Dallas
Speaker 8: and then obviously together in uh New York with the Giants.
Speaker 8: But he was a third round pick in nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 8: They've been friends ever since and now they're frenemies.
Speaker 7: And he learned how to coach from him too, you know,
Speaker 7: being on that staff, and I think he's such a
Speaker 7: good coach. I love the way he put it on
Speaker 7: Monday about his players, He said, I feel good. I
Speaker 7: think it's a positive because so many of our best
Speaker 7: players let us down on Sunday, which is just like
Speaker 7: such an interesting way to go. Like he said, like
Speaker 7: it was the players that always show up, our toughest
Speaker 7: best players who didn't show up for him. So who's
Speaker 7: he talking about? A Hutchinson thought had a really poor game.
Speaker 7: Couple big mental mistakes, gave up big plays. Jared Goff
Speaker 7: thirty fourth out of thirty four quarterbacks over the last
Speaker 7: four weeks according to PFF, one of the worst against
Speaker 7: the blitz in the NFL. Third worst against the blitz
Speaker 7: according at PFF. And Denver does a ton of blitzing
Speaker 7: and their offensive line stunk, and that's kind of what
Speaker 7: they are known for. Frank Ragnow and Taylor Decker, who
Speaker 7: were both banged up. Missing Ragna, who's their center, was
Speaker 7: a big deal for them, and they're both back at practice.
Speaker 7: So I think it's a good matchup for Denver. I'm
Speaker 7: surprised you're such a big underdog, but this would be
Speaker 7: a spot you'd love to see the lines.
Speaker 2: Respect two ways this goes right.
Speaker 1: The lines Either crater Now and we've begun to see
Speaker 1: them go down and then they're gonna end up kind
Speaker 1: of blowing their season here, or like a lot of teams,
Speaker 1: there's peaks and their valleys, and maybe a prime time
Speaker 1: game is a chance to kind of get right and
Speaker 1: flush the last few weeks of frustrations. I'm leaning closer
Speaker 1: to that because I don't think they just became a
Speaker 1: bad team overnight.
Speaker 2: I think they're in a slump. But if they if they.
Speaker 1: Don't get out of it now one minute, then you
Speaker 1: get really concerned that you know this team is on
Speaker 1: the wrong track.
Speaker 6: I like that they don't play a game outside the
Speaker 6: rest of the year. I think that this this is
Speaker 6: good for them. But they they aren't a bad team,
Speaker 6: and I love their coaching, and I think some of
Speaker 6: it's correctable. But since like Week ten, it's legitimately been
Speaker 6: like a terrible defense. I mean it's shown and like
Speaker 6: they are thirtieth and points per game allowed thirtieth on
Speaker 6: opposing passer rating twenty ninth on opposing third down twenty eighth,
Speaker 6: and sacks thirtieth and turnover direct differential, and golf's been
Speaker 6: up and down after being so clean for so long
Speaker 6: a season plus back and you're dealing with a Denver
Speaker 6: defense that might be the difference maker here because they're
Speaker 6: allowing less than sixteen points of game since week seven,
Speaker 6: and they've been creating turnovers left and right, and golf
Speaker 6: has I think, what's six turnovers and right?
Speaker 5: He's been a turnover.
Speaker 2: I hope it is like it was.
Speaker 7: It was against the Vision opponents who maybe know him well,
Speaker 7: but man, he he struggled. It's a nice matchup because
Speaker 7: the lines give up a lot of deep passes and
Speaker 7: that's what Russell and Sutton are so good at.
Speaker 1: That's right, good work.
Speaker 8: That's gonna be a fun pregame show and halftime a postgame.
Speaker 8: Mike Garatfolo will be up there on the desk with us,
Speaker 8: Maurice Jones, Drew, Michael Robinson.
Speaker 1: Good good group. Yeah, you and Mike g got that
Speaker 1: good chemistry too.
Speaker 4: It's like he's my brother.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that Italian is exactly there you
Speaker 2: go again. Huh, Colleen, you've said it all.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Anything else you want to plug m panic panic? You
Speaker 1: could just say no, I think that's it.
Speaker 5: Really.
Speaker 1: Check out Colleen on NFL Network Thursday and Saturday.
Speaker 4: Oh you know what, I do have something guess what.
Speaker 8: I maybe I think I'm gonna be flying with the Thunderbirds. Uh,
Speaker 8: who are the like basically the Blue Angels equivalent of
Speaker 8: the Air Force.
Speaker 2: WHOA? What a flying with it?
Speaker 4: I'm got to go up in a fighter jet, O Colleen.
Speaker 8: I have to wear I do have to wear a
Speaker 8: G suit because, like you have, you have a bunch
Speaker 8: of g's and I'm.
Speaker 4: So excited about it. Network on behalf It'll be like
Speaker 4: super Bowl related. So I'm going to go up with
Speaker 4: one of the pilots that does a fire.
Speaker 2: Jet fly over.
Speaker 4: I got medically cleared yesterday. Let's go.
Speaker 2: Whoa that is?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I can't wait.
Speaker 2: Can you see if Greg can go to Yeah? Would
Speaker 2: you go? I would go?
Speaker 4: I'm like, really worry throw up?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Do you not eat for a while before him?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 8: I need to find out if anyone has any tips
Speaker 8: about flying in a fighter jet.
Speaker 2: You don't want to be.
Speaker 1: Kind of a niche a part of the audience, but
Speaker 1: there's got to be somebody out there.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I on the network showing this clip of Terrell
Speaker 7: Davis completely passing out when they did and he just
Speaker 7: was out, don't.
Speaker 4: So what do I need to do to prepare myself.
Speaker 1: Somebody out there, there's got to be somebody, a listener
Speaker 1: out there that has experienced in the fighter jet what
Speaker 1: Colleen would know not to pass out and then become
Speaker 1: you know, a clip they use seven hundred times in
Speaker 1: this Now.
Speaker 7: They don't have like a burrito like right before.
Speaker 6: That's a good one for dms are open. Feel free
Speaker 6: to China anything you have.
Speaker 1: All right, We will be back tomorrow Thursday with our
Speaker 1: triple header, a week fifteen preview in Bulk NFL plus
Speaker 1: Dreamatorium Thursday Night Football Recap.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's all coming, It's all coming till then heat
Speaker 2: the call