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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha.

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Speaker 2: I'm welcome to stuff I ever told you, protection of iHeartRadio,

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Speaker 2: and welcome to another edition of our feminist movie Friday.

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Speaker 2: This is we're interrupting our religious series, but it will

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Speaker 2: be back. There's so much more to go over. We

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Speaker 2: were just talking about it.

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Speaker 1: There's so much more.

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Speaker 3: But because of the intensity, yeah, and so much research,

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Speaker 3: we just need breaks every now and again because it's.

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Speaker 2: A loss, and we imagine you listeners do too. Yes,

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Speaker 2: And that's actually in keeping with the movie that we chose,

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Speaker 2: which is Boy Meets Girl, but a brief content warning

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Speaker 2: for discussion around self harm disordered eating. I don't think

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Speaker 2: we really talk about it, but it's mentioned in the movie,

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Speaker 2: so I just put it down some problematic language. But

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Speaker 2: we are because of the continued attacks on the trans community,

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Speaker 2: we wanted to pick a movie about trans people with

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Speaker 2: trans people in it, and this one came up a

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Speaker 2: lot because, as we'll get into in the themes a

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Speaker 2: bit more, a lot of people said, you know, this

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Speaker 2: one was a nice one because it has like a

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Speaker 2: happy ending. It's not about sad things. It's just kind

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Speaker 2: of a rom com. It's got it serious moments, for sure,

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Speaker 2: But it wasn't like this super heavy thing that a

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Speaker 2: lot of movies about trans people are, so I had

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Speaker 2: never heard of it. I really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, yeah, it's one of those things where

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Speaker 3: you see a lot of queer movies being very sympathy porn.

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Speaker 1: It's, you know, the idea that we have to live

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Speaker 1: the horrors.

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Speaker 3: People live horror and that's the only thing we want

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Speaker 3: to know about them, and instead of that, we get

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Speaker 3: to celebrate coming of age story sort of for the

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Speaker 1: It's very quick, so the plot goes so quickly. That

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Speaker 1: was like, wait, what that was?

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Speaker 2: That was fast?

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Speaker 3: So that was one of the things that did kind

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Speaker 3: of get me that I was like two days in damn, Okay,

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Speaker 3: you know what, Maybe I just wasn't adventurous enough in life.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we will talk about that too. And I did

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Speaker 2: love because it is based in Kentucky. It's based in

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Speaker 2: the South, and it's got like a small town element,

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Speaker 2: and I know we'll talk about that a little bit later.

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Speaker 2: But I was like, yeah, I can relate to a

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Speaker 2: lot of this. Oh and also if like we're kind

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Speaker 2: I couldn't find. Normally, I have like a written up

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Speaker 2: any threads that did. I couldn't find that for this one.

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Speaker 2: So this is like a lot of us just talk way.

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Speaker 1: I like it anyway, this is my style. Let's go.

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Speaker 3: We're just saying, I do you want to watch it?

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Speaker 3: It is on Amazon Prime right now.

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Speaker 2: It is Yes, it is okay. So Boy Meets Girl

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Speaker 2: is a twenty fourteen indie rom com drama directed by

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Speaker 2: Eric Schaeffer. When it came out, it was fairly well reviewed,

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Speaker 2: and like I said, it did come up on a

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Speaker 2: we should watch this month, and it came up in

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Speaker 2: terms of what I was saying, like important movies about

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Speaker 2: trans people, because there are harsh elements of it, but

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Speaker 2: it's much lighter. The main character, who is trans played

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Speaker 2: her body, like that's not an issue. It doesn't shy

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Speaker 2: away from transphobia, but it does call it out. Here's

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Speaker 2: it up, and it's from Medium. The twenty fourteen film

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Speaker 2: gives trans people a romantic, happy ending that mainstream film

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Speaker 2: too often denies them. So yes, the article does go

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Speaker 2: on to point, especially in Apalachia, that this happened in

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Speaker 2: the South, like that's even more rare. Yes, it stars

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Speaker 2: transactress Michelle Henley as Ricky, a young trans woman living

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Speaker 2: time hanging out with her friend, mechanic Robbie Michael Welch,

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Speaker 2: which I'm told he was in Twilight.

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Speaker 3: So Manchesska develops feelings for Ricky, but Robbie is suspicious,

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Speaker 3: conversation between Ricky and Robbie, like I turned red, but

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Speaker 1: Know what, this is a legitimate I feel like this could.

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Speaker 3: The next day, Ricky discusses having sex with a woman

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Speaker 2: Like Francisca's like, what does this make me? Is it

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Speaker 2: Then Ricky discusses this whole thing with Robbie and they

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Speaker 2: Then it cuts to Francesca's mom cornering Ricky in a

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Speaker 3: It was bad, And of course Ricky fires shots back.

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Speaker 3: Even though she said the words you're perfect, my sweet boy,

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's going some backways. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: But yes, what we know is they live happily together

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was trying to figure that part out. Did

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think she died. I'm pretty sure. But you're

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Speaker 1: He might have been like, she left not because of you.

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Speaker 3: because they knew that they would have a fight, kind

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Speaker 3: Okay, here we go type of conversation, as well as

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Speaker 2: And this is still problematic, but it rang true to

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Speaker 4: You're already pretty.

435
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Speaker 1: I'm already pretty southern. So add on a little bit thicker.

436
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Speaker 2: I got this, yes, but I did appreciate that it

437
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 2: was set in kind of a small town in the South,

438
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Speaker 2: and that we did see we did see a lot

439
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 2: of transphobic people and especially her transphobic comments, but that

440
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 2: there was so much support.

441
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Speaker 3: I think she makes a good point about her surrounding

442
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 3: the people that support her on purpose so that you

443
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 3: don't see that.

444
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. Another thing I noticed as part of this

445
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 2: was a lot of conversations about being a woman, especially

446
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 2: like between Rickey and Robbie when they're having that conversation

447
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 2: about like gay sex, straight sex and sexuality and all

448
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 2: that stuff. There is a lot about that. There was

449
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 2: a scene I found particularly moving where her Ricky's little

450
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 2: brother asked her like, does that mean something's wrong with

451
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 2: me that I like to play with like army men

452
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 2: and not barbies like you do? And it's just night

453
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 2: Like they have a nice little bonding moment where she's like, no,

454
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 2: You're perfect the way you are. It's nice. And then,

455
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, there is that layer of internalized homophobia

456
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 2: that we see, particularly with David, but I mean even

457
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 2: in David and Francesca's relationship, that whole like lying about virginity,

458
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 2: that purity culture thing we've been talking about. It is

459
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 2: like over the top, you guys.

460
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Speaker 3: Yeah, But to be fair, so this is twenty fourteen release,

461
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 3: so this was filmed in twenty twelve.

462
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Speaker 1: Pretty prevalent. Still, it's prevalent today.

463
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Speaker 3: So if you're in a small town boarding school with

464
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 3: a very white conservative family, probably still an important thing.

465
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, no, no, I didn't feel I think

466
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Speaker 2: it just kind of struck me because we are talking

467
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 2: about it right now. I was like, whoa, here it is.

468
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say I was also very surprised about

469
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 3: the father reacting that way, and I was like, again,

470
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 3: the year is twenty fourteen, twenty twelve, so it wasn't

471
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 3: quite Trump era, so people were not the extremists that

472
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 3: we see today or out loud anyway, right.

473
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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I mean it was especially watching it now,

474
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Speaker 2: I did have a lot of moments where I was like, oh, oh,

475
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 2: I thought it was gonna go way worse.

476
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 3: Right, Well, this is Mitch McConnell's territory, so we know

477
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 3: what he stands for and how he's leaning, So it

478
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 3: doesn't feel genuine to be based in Kentucky. But I

479
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Speaker 3: know that this also was the same time as Paul

480
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 3: Ryan was and he was compared to today, so it

481
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 3: sort of a moderate So I think that's why they

482
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 3: were leaning.

483
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Speaker 1: At the very least.

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Speaker 3: I wonder what he what that, what that movie would

485
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 3: look like today. I'm sure it would not be as cute.

486
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 3: Well anyway, back to the not so sadness, but yeah,

487
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 3: it's interesting to see that this was based in Kentucky

488
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 3: with a politician like that, and then like they didn't

489
00:26:55,200 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 3: negate her womanhood until the mother came back round. Even still,

490
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 3: she didn't even she said the word transgender was ugly,

491
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 3: but she really didn't misgender her at any point.

492
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, no, which she didn't. She said some

493
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 2: terrible things, but she didn't get her because I think

494
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 2: she was saying, like transgenders so ugly and women are

495
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 2: supposed to be pretty. Yeah yeah, yeah, but they had

496
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 2: met her not knowing she was transgender, and they were like,

497
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 2: oh no, we love her, we love her, and then

498
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: David's like, oh no, I don't know. It was a mess,

499
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 2: But I did want to include this quote David did

500
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 2: say about Ricky, But really I just liked her and

501
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: I wanted to be as close with her as possible,

502
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: So that kind of goes back to his internal internalized homophobia.

503
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 2: Francesca kind of expresses something similar like I just really

504
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: like her.

505
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Speaker 3: Right, Okay, I feel like this is bordering onto the

506
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 3: whole non binary to queerness, just being on a spectrum

507
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 3: and loving the person right, and finding Ricky lovable and

508
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 3: mesmerizing and something to someone that people just wanted to

509
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 3: be close to. Not not to say that it can't

510
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 3: be they can't be queer, that's not a thing, but

511
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 3: they never really say it outside of Francisca questioning it.

512
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 3: It's just more of who they wanted to be with.

513
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 3: And that's kind of the idea of like love is

514
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 3: love in general, So if you fall in love or

515
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 3: be fall in love or fall in like with these people,

516
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 3: why is it wrong? And then coming back to internalize

517
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 3: homophobia of like I was with a man, or I

518
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 3: was with a woman, or I was with you know,

519
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 3: like that real gender or whatever whatnot. Well, that's interesting,

520
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 3: it was it was framed differently. They would They didn't

521
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 3: label it as hard as you typically seen movies.

522
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they didn't do that, and that was purposeful.

523
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 2: I think I found some quotes about that too, which

524
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 2: we'll get into you. I did want to talk about

525
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: a lot of people wrote about how move they were

526
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: about the scene where Ricky comes out of the lake

527
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 2: and it's naked. So here's another quote from that Medium article.

528
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: We aren't invited to fetishize Ricky's trans body. It simply

529
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 2: exists there is I would argue something subtly radical about

530
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 2: this choice, since it normalizes Ricky and allows us to

531
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 2: see her as a person rather than an other body.

532
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 2: It's also significant that Robbie doesn't see her as other

533
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 2: and that in fact, he loves her for who she is.

534
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 3: Right, And here's Henley's words about the scene. I am

535
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 3: so so happy that the nude scenes have been received

536
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 3: so well and not some gratuitous shock value sleeve shot.

537
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 3: Eric let me know about the scene very early on,

538
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 3: and maybe within the first couple of email exchanges, not

539
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 3: a thing about it, and I was all for it

540
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 3: from the get go. I think there's a lot of

541
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 3: mystery associated with the train bodies. The general public does

542
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 3: not understand what it is to be a transgender person,

543
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 3: and our bodies are often fetishized as something taboo and

544
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 3: strictly sexual. It was important to treat the scene delicately,

545
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 3: and I want audiences to see a trans body for

546
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 3: what it is. It's not monstrous, it's not threatening anyone.

547
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 3: It's just there in its mind and it's beautiful. Yeah,

548
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 3: that's a really great quote.

549
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: Yeah it is. It is, And I think so much

550
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,959
Speaker 2: of that. It was a really powerful scene. And I

551
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 2: think all of these words are so impactful. And that

552
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: is something that really upsets me about current, especially hard

553
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: conservative conversation around trans people, queer people at large, trans

554
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 2: people in specific, is that they're always sexualized, and often

555
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 2: not in a way, often in like a really horriful way.

556
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: So I think that's really really important. And I do

557
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: love the part about you know it's mine and it's beautiful,

558
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: and that whole idea of not hating your body, not

559
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: keeping it a secret, because that comes up pretty early

560
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: on where Ricky is just kind of like, no, I

561
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: don't keep a secret. If people ask, I tell it. Yeah.

562
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: Another thing I saw come up a lot when people

563
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: were writing about this movie was sex positivity. That they

564
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: felt it was a very sex positive movie, and there

565
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: are a lot of conversations about sex in it. There's

566
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Speaker 2: like conversations about the messiness of sex just kind of

567
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: how it works, what sex looks like for Ricky who

568
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 2: is transitioning. There's like conversation about commitment versus dick.

569
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: Pointing, conversations about dick and fingers.

570
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, moisture, which bad segue, but also like sexuality

571
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: is fluid. That's something in there, and we've already talked

572
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: about it a lot, but I did want to include

573
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 2: the quote. So this is after Francesca and Ricky have

574
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: had sex, and Francesca says, what does this make me

575
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: a lesbian? By curious and then Ricky says human just

576
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 2: kind of shrugs it off. And then just to wrap

577
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 2: this up, I wanted to include friendship. It was a

578
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 2: big theme throughout Robbie and Ricky's friendship. They kind of

579
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: have a conversation how they just hit it off so

580
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: well when they're so young, and he felt like he

581
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: had to protect her, and he says, but you never

582
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: really needed me to protect you. And one of his

583
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: quotes is, how could I regret being in love with

584
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: the hottest girl in town who just happens to be

585
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 2: my best friend. So they have a really good we

586
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 2: have a good friendship. He says, some good old boys stuff.

587
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, dear, but they had a really

588
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: good friendship. And then also, as we said, the small

589
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: town part of it, I really appreciate it because they

590
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: do talk about it a lot. There's a part where

591
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: Francesca's kind of saying, like, h small town's so cute.

592
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: It makes me feel this way, and Ricky says, makes

593
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: me feel claustrophone. Yeah, And then I love this quote.

594
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: So there's at that fancy party they were at there

595
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: there are these two women who are kind of like

596
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: joking about going to high school in a small town.

597
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: One of them says, high school, who can survive it?

598
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: Another says I was fat, I had terrible acnees as

599
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 2: another one he says, and I was a boy, so

600
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: that sucks.

601
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: I love that they didn't listen at first and laughed

602
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 3: and then like they kind of filter all the like

603
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 3: wait what and they just walk away.

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Speaker 2: God. I love it. I really recommend it. It was

605
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: really fun. It moves quickly, like you said, but it

606
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: was nice.

607
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: Was it was very sweet? Yeah, it's a very sweet movie.

608
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: No big shocks.

609
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 3: There's a few moments of like, of course you are

610
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 3: heartbroken for someone feeling like they have to justify themselves

611
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 3: in any way, she has a lot of support systems.

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00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 3: I will say Michael Welch did a great job like

613
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 3: he he was like. The best thing was him trying

614
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 3: to describe sex with a woman like I. That was

615
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 3: probably one of my favorite scenes because him being flustered

616
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 3: was so legitimate.

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00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 2: Yeah I was cute. Yeah it was. It was so

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Speaker 2: we recommend it. Go check it out if you haven't

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