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Hello, there is and here we are. 39 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: Shout out to everyone joining us live right now on 40 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: YouTube or everybody downloading and listening. To the podcast a 41 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: little bit later in the day. Keep all of your 42 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: questions and your comments coming for Thursdays Beach step in 43 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: podcast that's coming up tomorrow. 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I scheduled a weird water inspection with 53 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: some guy about four weeks ago and he finally showing 54 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: up today talking about French drains down the side of 55 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: my house. So I won't be there, but you hear 56 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: me talk enough as it is. So you got task, 57 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: you got Trey, and you got Leley again. No dunks 58 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: Reddit Ama Wednesday, one pm Eastern and if. 59 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 3: You want to ask Skeets anything, just email in about 60 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: that French drain. 61 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: The people are going to be excited to know what. 62 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: You're actually doing to combat the water flow problems around the. 63 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: I'm on a bit of a hill here. This water 64 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: it's like it can turn into a river down here 65 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: in my house. It's like the corner point. It just 66 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: going both ways. I'm worried about the crawl space, you know, 67 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: I gotta put something in here. I'm worried about the cost. 68 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: I know it's not gonna be cheap to put those 69 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: catch basins in there. And the big old French drained 70 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: down the side of the house. We're probably gonna be 71 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: five six jeesu, it's gonna be brutal. 72 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 4: Maybe do you speak French? No? 73 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: I don't. Hey, where's my money? Leave house? 74 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 4: Where's my money? 75 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 5: Yeah? 76 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 4: Congratulations, we'll get to that. 77 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: We'll get to that. We actually a ton to talk 78 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: about here on today's podcast. Let's start with the game, 79 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: though only two on yesterday, which was a nice change. 80 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: Jamal Murray scores forty two points. The Nuggets beat the 81 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: Jazz one seventeen to one oh seven. In Game five, 82 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,679 Speaker 1: Jazz still lead the series three to two, but Denver 83 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: lives to fight another Daily biggest takeaway great. 84 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 4: Game, really good game, really good playoff game, intense and tough, 85 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 4: from the start, and I think Denver, I'm gonna give 86 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 4: them credit because I think for the first time in 87 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 4: this series that you simply played harder for forty eight 88 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 4: minutes and from the start. Jokich came out in that 89 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 4: first quarter, was on fire here twenty one points, had 90 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 4: an incredible shot as the buzzer ended there, but still 91 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 4: it felt like the Jazz were kind of in control. 92 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 4: Given what we've seen so far in this series, that 93 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 4: it was like the Jazz are just going to pull away, 94 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 4: and they sort of started to do that in the 95 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 4: second half. But then, wow, Jamal Murray, Man, what an 96 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 4: incredible run this guy is on right now. Finishes with 97 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 4: forty two points and the thirty three they're in the 98 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 4: second half and they get the win, which is obviously 99 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 4: the most important stat here. But I just want to 100 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 4: go over a couple of numbers here. Of his last 101 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 4: two games Sunday, fifty points, zero turnovers and last night 102 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 4: forty two points, zero turnovers, ninety two points, thirty six 103 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 4: field goals, made a fifteen assists since his last turner. 104 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 4: Thanks to Tom Havistro for that. But I mean, he 105 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 4: is just a baller right now, and it's so much 106 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 4: fun to watch this guy out there play. Now, in 107 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 4: three games in this series, he's had an incredible performance 108 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 4: and they've won two of those games. And this is 109 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 4: my concern going forward with Denver still that even though 110 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 4: they're still alive, they had such a reliance on their 111 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 4: two stars, Jokich and Jamal Murray. Now they delivered yesterday 112 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 4: and they got the win, but outside of those two guys, 113 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 4: they're not getting anywhere near the significant production that the 114 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 4: Jazz are getting from their role players. And it feels 115 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 4: to me that it takes this miraculous effort from Jamal 116 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 4: Murray just to keep them firstly in the game and 117 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 4: then when it's close down the stretch like that, it 118 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 4: can go either way. And Murray was just so hot 119 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 4: that they ended up winning this game. But I still 120 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 4: feel pretty good for Utah for the remainder of the series. 121 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 4: I think they probably close it out in six games 122 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 4: just because they have been the better team and they've 123 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 4: shown that. But as far in terms of one game 124 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 4: in a nutshell there, that was just an incredibly fun 125 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 4: game to watch. But Denver to me still just papering 126 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 4: over the cracks a little bit too much, because the 127 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 4: second half Murray and Yokich didn't sub out, and that 128 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 4: just sort of shows you that Michael Malone basically is 129 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 4: like these two guys are our ballers and they can play. 130 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 4: Everyone else is kind of interchangeable. You're just hoping to 131 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 4: get something from those guys, and you get a little 132 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 4: bit from Jeremy Grant. Michael Porter was o kay yesterday. 133 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 4: I mean, you didn't have a lot of fight in 134 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 4: him because of his defensive efforts out there, but just 135 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 4: an incredible gang from Jamal Mayra to keep his team alive. 136 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 4: But I wonder if it's really just delaying the inevitable. 137 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but the good thing was the Nuggets did play 138 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: some defense. There were stretches, There were stretches. I tweeted 139 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: this where it was like it felt like the first 140 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: time all series long tasks that the Nuggets actually strung together. 141 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: You know, three or four decent defensive possessions where guys 142 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: were hustling and there was some rotation and they were 143 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: getting the ball out of Mitchell's hands and making other 144 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: guys beat them. And that was enough. I mean, Jamal 145 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: Murray said it, I can put the ball in the hoop, 146 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: but I can't do this without everyone. I think what 147 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: he means there is, don't worry about offense. I got 148 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: us there. You'll get you were nice, you were hitting 149 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: a those trees and the first reverse Paul George, Yeah, exactly. 150 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: I'll get us there offensively, but we just got to 151 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: play some defense, put a few stops together to get 152 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: back into that game, and then I'll take over from there. 153 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: But task, Yeah, what did you think of the Nuggets? 154 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: At least again they didn't go down without a fight. 155 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: Jamal Murray was, you know, even refused to let this 156 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: go home. Really, I mean, if he doesn't have this performance, 157 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: they're losing this game because it was still that close. 158 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: But he's just unconscious there in the second half. 159 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think it just shows the benefit of 160 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 5: having somebody else other than your center as your best 161 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 5: offensive player, because your center is going to be dragged defensively. 162 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 5: He's got to do so much and that shows that 163 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 5: the first half, Nikolijokic was great offensively, but they gave 164 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 5: up sixty three points. They didn't play great defense. For 165 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 5: the first half. The Jazz got whatever they wanted, but 166 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 5: in the third quarter, nikoli Jokich took a step back offensively, 167 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 5: didn't score a point, but was all in defensively, and 168 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 5: that's when they slowed down the Jazz and Jamal Murray 169 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 5: could take over. And it just shows throughout the league 170 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 5: it's tough to be as a center doing so much 171 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 5: defensively and offensively. So yeah, they stepped up in the 172 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 5: second half. Jamal Murray his third of five games where 173 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 5: he has been amazing, and so you know, it doesn't 174 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 5: bode well that he's going to have another two in 175 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 5: a row, but they desperately need it, and they got great, 176 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 5: great contributions from a guy like PJ. Doser, who a 177 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 5: G League hero, has stepped in. They've been they've been 178 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 5: looking for somebody to replace Gary Harris, Michael Porter has 179 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 5: taken a bit of a step back. So Jamal Murray 180 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 5: a monster, and he outdid Donovan Mitchell, who had guys 181 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 5: in his face for the second half. It was just 182 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 5: it was very different for Donovan Mitchell to see a 183 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 5: guard in front of him. And then Nikola Jokicic who 184 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 5: only really had to concentrate on defense, you know, and 185 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 5: chipped in but offensively, but was able to just give 186 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 5: the ball to Jamal Murray. And so that's a big difference. 187 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 5: I think for Jokich, it's even as skinny as he is, 188 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 5: as much weight as he's lost. It's a tall, tall 189 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 5: task for him to do it on both ends. So 190 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 5: you know, kudos to Jamal. It is a blast and 191 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 5: he took some tough, tough shots. 192 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, special incredible he when he's got it going. 193 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: I mean, there are a few guys in the league 194 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: has fun to watch. Trey Well. 195 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 3: I don't know if I would go that far Skats, 196 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 3: He's maybe like number fifteen on my list, But that 197 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 3: just tells you where the end is at this point 198 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 3: that Jamal Murray is like a top twenty five player, 199 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: and he would have been the best player in nineteen 200 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 3: eighty five, maybe outside of Michael Jordan. It's crazy to watch. 201 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 3: Though it looked like he was going out of the 202 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 3: game with an injury. Then the next thing you know, 203 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 3: he's splitting traps and doing a three sixty layup finishing 204 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 3: with the wrong hand on the left side of the basket. 205 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: No problem. 206 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 3: That was one of the smoothest looking moves we've seen 207 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 3: down there in the bubble. But Murray scored thirty three 208 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 3: in the second half, and the entire Utah Jazz team 209 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 3: scored forty four. That's the story of the game right there. 210 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 3: They locked down on defense and Murray really took over. 211 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 3: Like you guys are saying it's hard for a center, 212 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna put it on Jokic not being aggressive. 213 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it on the guards man. 214 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 3: Every big guy knows that the guards never pass you 215 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 3: the ball at the end of the game because it's 216 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 3: hard to get the ball down in there. What do 217 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 3: you want Yogitz bringing the ball up, Nah, give it 218 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 3: to Murray. He's gonna shake and bake. He's gonna shoot 219 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 3: his little floaters. And when he's on the floaters they 220 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 3: still look as awkward as they do when he's off. 221 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 3: But the bank shots money. He was hitting some tough 222 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 3: ones that he just it almost feels like you don't 223 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 3: expect him to shoot the ball when he's going to 224 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: pull there but it's open, and you just don't expect 225 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 3: the one foot runner from seventeen foot when it's going. 226 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: It looks great. 227 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 3: It can look bad when he's not on fire, but 228 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 3: last night that wasn't the case, and the defense was great. 229 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 3: Doser really helped coming in. 230 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 2: No. 231 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 3: Paul Millsap really helped, and I think that the Nuggets 232 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 3: were helped a little bit by the Jazz thinking they 233 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 3: were home. They had a nice lead there in the 234 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 3: third quarter, and then it kind of stopped attacking. Michael 235 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 3: Porter Junior. Porter eventually went out and surprise, surprise, the 236 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 3: defense got a lot better for Denver. 237 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: What was the better play in this game? I'll give 238 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: you three to pick from Jokich's crazy three at the 239 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: end of the first quarter, Mitchell's dunk on Michael Porter Junior, 240 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: which was huge, or Murray's three sixty layup around go barely? 241 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: Which one do you go with what you got? 242 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 4: Well, it's down to the three sixty. Oh the yo 243 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 4: kids shot for me because jokis just off the wrong 244 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 4: foot like that coming down at the end of the quarter. 245 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 4: I think he was five for five from five to 246 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 4: five in the quarter. Then he hit that to go 247 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 4: six for six. Maury's was spectacular, But I'm gonna go 248 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go Jokich just because it was unexpected. I 249 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 4: guess the why that he just sort of he comes down. 250 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 4: It is like he is confused which foot he's supposed 251 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 4: to jump off, but he just let it fly. It 252 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 4: went so high in the air, and he was complaining 253 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 4: that he didn't get a foul call on it as well. 254 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 4: He wanted the full point play, So I'll take yok o'kay, I'm. 255 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: Going Murray, come on, I mean too, Yeah, you can 256 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: say Homer all you want. Like Trey said it, that's 257 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: the smoothest play we've seen all the entire bubble. That 258 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: was unbelievable. Yeah, and how he finished too little jelly 259 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: to it. I mean, guy, he's a fun He is 260 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 1: really fun when he's locked in, and he has been 261 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: locked in for a good chunk of this series. Can 262 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: he do it for game six and then possibly a 263 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: game seven? I mean geez, I don't know. But he 264 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: was just straight up like two minutes ago, he just 265 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: isoed on Donovan Mitchell, like this is why this series 266 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: is hilariously fun. It's like, all right, here we go. 267 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: It's like feels like like Rucker Park or something, or 268 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: like Venice Beach, Like it's like we need somebody on 269 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: the mic, like dropping the old baby baby, because that's 270 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: what it feels like. He's like, all right, here we go, 271 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: let's see you see if you can break him down. 272 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: He isoed on Mitchell. He stopped on a dime with 273 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: like that behind the back dribble, hit the jumper, and 274 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: then you know, not long after, like a minute and 275 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: a half to go, Royce is on him, Royce O'Neil 276 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: now and he got to the exact same spot after 277 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: a nice little like crossover drive out him created enough 278 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: room just to get that that jumper, that little step 279 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: back jumper to go, and then he did set up 280 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: yo kicen in the cornering corner really late. Yokic did 281 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: score in the second half. It was just like in 282 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: the final whatever thirty seconds, but he knocked him down. Yeah, 283 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: super fun. I just I'm doubtful he can do it again, 284 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: like you said, lee for another game and then maybe 285 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: another game on that, because he's gonna have to. 286 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 4: Well, I wouldn't be surprised if he does it, it's 287 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 4: just whether or not. Then sure themselves defensively and get 288 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 4: any sort of contribution from anybody else, because Maury's a bullet. 289 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 4: But I wanted to ask you guys, is let's let's 290 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 4: let's make one of these stupid questions. Who would you 291 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 4: if you had to pick one guy who you're building 292 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 4: your franchise around. Jamal Mario, Donovan Mitchell. What what you 293 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 4: got Mitchell? 294 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: I think I even go Mitch far and I am smart, 295 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: gigantic Murray fan. As I've said many times, he's the 296 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: least Canadian Canadian of all time, and I'm here for 297 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: it because he's unapologetic. He's wired like an American and 298 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, but I go Donovan Mitchell still too, Murray, 299 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: I think Mitchell. 300 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 4: I think Mitchell today is still his complete body of 301 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 4: work is still better than Maury's. But Murray can sort 302 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 4: of kick this up for a season. I think it's uh, 303 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 4: it's old Donovan Mitchell. 304 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: How old is see? 305 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 5: I know, twenty three In a lot of days, he's 306 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 5: almost twenty four. 307 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: Okay, so they're pretty close in age. 308 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 5: I guess, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well you. 309 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: Can't go wrong maybe with either of them. They're fun 310 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: to watch. And you're right. I thought it was over. 311 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: I thought the series was over. I mean, as great 312 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: as yok was early, the Jazz for all series long 313 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: have dominated the third quarter, and they had to lead 314 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: at the half, and then they built it up at 315 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: the start of the third Qors. I'm like, well, that's 316 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: a rap. I mean, it's a fifteen point game. The 317 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: Nuggets are gonna like, Okay, we're done in this place. 318 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: Let's just go home. And then yeah, they finally got 319 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: a few stops going, and then Jamal caught fire and 320 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: they actually won the third quarter and they kept the 321 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: Jazz to a very respectable like twenty three points, and 322 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: then they were suddenly back in this game. But yeah, 323 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: I thought for sure they were done. I don't know 324 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: about you guys. Watching this one, I was like, all right, 325 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: well this series is over. Let's start looking ahead to 326 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: who they're gonna play, the Utah Jazz. But it's still 327 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: potentially a series. I mean, you wonder is the pressure 328 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: on the Jazz now to win Game six, even though 329 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: there's no home court advantage and stuff like that. Are 330 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: you saying it's a must win game for the Jazz? 331 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 6: I don't know. 332 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: It kind of oddly feels like it might be, but 333 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: it's so silly because again, there's no home court. You're 334 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: not going back to play in the altitude there in 335 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: ten for a game seven, So I don't know. I 336 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: guess it sort of feels that way to me, and yeah, 337 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: it could happen. I don't know. 338 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 3: Well, the thing is that neither of these teams is 339 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 3: super consistent, right, And that's kind of been the shock, 340 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 3: is that the Jazz looks pretty consistent through the first 341 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 3: four games and the first three quarters of this one. 342 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 3: They just didn't do it in the fourth quarter of 343 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 3: Game five. It's also very strange to be watching this 344 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 3: game at like seven o'clock because both of these teams 345 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 3: are in mountain times, so you're thinking, wow, this is 346 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 3: a this is an early game for them. Oh wait, no, no, no, no, 347 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: they're just in Orlando playing basketball like they have been 348 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 3: for the past couple of months. Is it a must 349 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 3: win in Game six? Yeah, you don't want to go 350 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 3: to a game seven. Jamal Murray's got a Game seven 351 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 3: winning under his belt. 352 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: Ooh, you know a little more experience than the game 353 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: sevens because they had two of them last year. You're 354 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: not wrong. Jordan Clarkson too, for the Jazz, played really 355 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: well in the first half and then couldn't hit a 356 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: shot in the second half. That was a big part 357 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: of this game too, because he was rolling in the 358 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: first quarter, first half, excuse me. And then he's been 359 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: good for a lot of this series, been credible off 360 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: the bench. But you know he's that's Jordan Clarkson. I think, 361 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: I like, you know, you're asking a lot if you 362 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: need him to try and score your twenty five every game. 363 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: He's going to have his moments. But he went ice cool. 364 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: He was just missing some shots and he's going to 365 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: keep shooting him. That's on Clarkson. He's going to keep 366 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: shooting him. But luckily for the Nuggets, he missed. Anything 367 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: else to add to this one. 368 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 5: I just want to see how Denver comes out in 369 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 5: the first half of Game number six, because they save 370 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 5: their season with their backs against the wall when they 371 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 5: came out of the locker room, not in the first half, 372 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 5: but in the second half. That's that's what happened. They 373 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 5: really just save their ass when it was absolutely against 374 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 5: the wall. They've got to do it for a full game, 375 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 5: and so I'm not really inspired by them coming out 376 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 5: when they see only twenty four minutes on the clock 377 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 5: or we're going home. It's going to be tough, I 378 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 5: think for them to do it another two games. I 379 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 5: just don't believe in that defense. And yeah, so Clarkson 380 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 5: and Donovin Mitchell saw some more bodies at them, but 381 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 5: I think they responded pretty well. And I think they'll 382 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 5: handle it pretty well going into the next game with Utah. 383 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 5: I think the pressure is more on Denver to respond 384 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 5: again than it is on Utah to come out and score. 385 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 5: I think Utah will be absolutely fine. The way they've been, 386 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 5: they've handled themselves here through through five games. I am 387 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 5: a little worried about Royce O'Neill having the yips, you know, 388 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 5: their perimeter player that gets the ball in the fourth quarter, 389 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 5: because it's going to get swung out of Donovan Mitchell's 390 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 5: or Jordan Clarkson's hands if they pressure the way they pressured, 391 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 5: and I assume that'll be the game plan. Russell Neil's 392 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 5: got to shoot. It can't be Ricky and Kiel out there. 393 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,959 Speaker 5: Just let her fly, man, let her rip. You need 394 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 5: just at least to shoot because he can't shoot, and 395 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 5: he's been pretty confident all the way up until the 396 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 5: end of game five. I don't know what happened there. 397 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 5: He just stopped shooting. 398 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: There's that one play where he got the travel right 399 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: because he was like, yeah, didn't want to shoot it 400 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: and he didn't know what he was going to do 401 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: with it, and they're like, all right, you're dragging your 402 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: feet all over the place. Man, that's the travel. Yeah, 403 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: and watch for how aggressive Yokich is again in game six. 404 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: I mean that's the thing he was from the jump 405 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: in this one, you know, letting it fly, knocking them down. 406 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: He's got to do that. I mean, he's as he 407 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: can put Gobert underneath the basket because of his size. Still, 408 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: but Goberry, I'm gonna get out there and challenge those shots. 409 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: I mean, he's They're gonna live with that. So Yokicic 410 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: has to be aggressive with the three pointer again, I 411 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: think early in this to at least try and keep 412 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: it close enough. And of course they've got to pair 413 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: that with a little bit of defense to maybe give 414 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: us a Game seven. We want some Game sevens in 415 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: the first round, right, I guess we're sort of cheering 416 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: for the Nuggets in a game six, I know, yea, yeah, 417 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: that Game seven is always fun. We're going to Game seven, baby, 418 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: we can play that drop. You know, everybody loves that, 419 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: all right? Moving on here. The other game yesterday, Clippers 420 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: roll past the Mavericks one fifty four to one eleven 421 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,959 Speaker 1: to take the three to two series lead. Task one 422 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: fifty four to one eleven. This was a beat down. 423 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 5: What a show. Paul George came out and forced it 424 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 5: a little bit. He went to his shots and those 425 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 5: shots went down. Pandemic Pe became playoff p thirty five points. 426 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 5: And we'll get to your bet in a second here, 427 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 5: But I think we've sort of all been overlooking Kawhi's performance. 428 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 5: Kawhi has been the best player in the playoffs. He's 429 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 5: been ridiculously consistent and a huge reason why I think 430 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 5: the Clippers should still be the championship favorites. He had 431 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 5: thirty two in this one, twenty two in the first half. 432 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,239 Speaker 5: He was an angry fella. He has scored twenty nine, 433 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 5: thirty five, thirty six, then back to back thirty Two's 434 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 5: ridiculously consistent, ridiculously efficient. He's a robot on both ends. 435 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 5: And he's been great on the defensive end too, And 436 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 5: we've sort of just been overlooking it because Luca has 437 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 5: been great. But he had that great steal there at 438 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 5: the end of the third quarter that's been going around 439 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 5: off of Boban and he passed it to Reggie Jackson 440 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 5: on the offensive end. Reggie misses, and then you can 441 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 5: see Kawhi, I didn't give the ball up for that 442 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 5: shit because it was a bad pass and Kawhi is 443 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 5: locked in and it shows you, Yeah, this, when this 444 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 5: team is locked in, they can put up those you know, 445 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 5: Bill fifties. It's a ridiculous number to see, but they 446 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 5: put up that many points. And I think the other 447 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 5: thing that this Clippers team has is that nastiness I 448 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 5: mentioned after the Game three, and I want to get 449 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 5: your guys opinion on this. I like when Doc Rivers 450 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 5: teams are nasty to a point because I think that's 451 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 5: when they win, they're at their best. Doc Rivers wants 452 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 5: a couple guys on his team, like Draymond Green and 453 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 5: Golden State, to be a little feisty. He's got a 454 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 5: number of them, Patrick Beverly, Montrez Harrell and Marcus Morris 455 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 5: who been who've been a little feisty throughout this series. 456 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 5: And Marcus Morris has been dragged through the Twitter mud 457 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 5: because he apparently stepped on Luka Doncic's ankle on purpose 458 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 5: and the video going around and around on Twitter. I 459 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 5: honestly think that he did go and try and get 460 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 5: his ankle on purpose. 461 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: WHOA he says he didn't task he says, how dare you? 462 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 5: Yeah? I watched the footage over and over and over again, 463 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 5: and Luca is getting the ball from an inbound and 464 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 5: it's just you know, standard inbound under his own hoop 465 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 5: after a bucket, and Marcus Morris flies across the court 466 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 5: and almost does a euro step to step on Luka 467 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 5: Doncic's ankle, and I think that's the whole there's a 468 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 5: plan there, and that's to be a little nasty with Luca. Luca, 469 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 5: you know, shook it off and was fine, although he's 470 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 5: obviously hobbled. But let me know what you guys think. 471 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 5: Do you think Marcus Morris did on purpose? Because from 472 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 5: my perspective, he did, and and that's, you know, as 473 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 5: close as we can get to a Detroit Piston's bad 474 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,479 Speaker 5: Boys here in the twenty twenties. That we're not going 475 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 5: to get anywhere close. But I think the Clippers, with 476 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 5: the nastiness level, the way they talk, it's probably the 477 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 5: closest we're going to get. And Marcus Morris does have 478 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 5: a reputation for being a little bit aggressive, and I 479 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 5: think he was just a little bit aggressive there, and 480 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 5: that's not outside of the sort of the unwritten rules 481 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 5: of basketball. In the history of basketball, but it was intentional. 482 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. I agree, I don't know if he 483 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: did it intentionally. Go ahead, Trey, I think that was 484 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: And you're right, task. The Clippers talk like they're the 485 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: bad boys, but Marcus Morris walks the walk like he's 486 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: a bad boy. 487 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 3: He's the kind of guy that would step on your 488 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 3: ankle if he knows it's hurt. And that's probably why 489 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 3: they brought him to bring a little bit more toughness. 490 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 3: We saw it in Game one basically getting Kristaps ejected, 491 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 3: so I'm not surprised. I'm not really going to give 492 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 3: a Morris brother the benefit of the doubt on this one. 493 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 3: They're starting fights with everybody. 494 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, intentionally or unintentionally. I think it is safe to 495 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: say the Clippers are the villains here of the NBA 496 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: bubble now. They've leaned all into that. You just saw people, 497 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: you know, despite them winning this game huge and Kawhi 498 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: being that robotic, you know, killer and Paul George playoff 499 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: pe having the bounce back performance, people just hate a 500 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: lot of people hate the Clippers because it feels like 501 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: they have this sense of entitlement and they haven't won 502 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: collectively anything yet, but they sort of carry themselves like 503 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: like you're saying, like the bad boys, like the team 504 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: like that is that are the champs already, and that 505 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: rubs people a lot the wrong way. I love it. 506 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: I love having a team that everybody hates. It makes 507 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: things way more exciting. But there are a lot of 508 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: guys who went through them all that are not afraid 509 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: to obviously be barking on the sidelines, maybe playing on 510 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: a little more dirty than some of the other teams will. 511 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I love it. I love it 512 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: for the narrative standpoint, I'll tell you that. And these 513 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: teams hate each other. They're officially tired of each other, 514 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: I mean, which I love in a playoff series too. 515 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: You get to game five or six and it's been close, 516 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: and you know it's been chippy at times already, and 517 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: then you get that far in and I's like, okay, 518 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: I'm tired of playing you. 519 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 5: I hate you now. 520 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: And Rick Carlisle ejected in this one, you know again, 521 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: a testy game. We had six technicals overall. The flagrant 522 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: foul that was Tim Hardaway Junior winding up and popping 523 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: PG in the face or of in the head on 524 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: a drive Morris with this stepping thing. Yeah, they hate 525 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: each other, they're tired of each other. I love it, 526 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: but uh, I don't know. I don't know about Morris. 527 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: I see what you guys are saying when you watch it. 528 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: It's a weird step. It's a weird step where he is. 529 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: He just a sort of a bigger guy being a 530 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: little clumsy and not knowing where Lucas is the same 531 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: size as Luca Well, yeah, I mean big in the sense. Yeah, 532 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: you're right, he's not a bowld. 533 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 3: I don't know. 534 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: The Clippers are a little annoying. 535 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,719 Speaker 3: All of their trash talk is coming from guys who 536 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 3: are on the bench, and most of it's coming from 537 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 3: Patrick Beverly, who's not even playing in this series. But 538 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 3: on the flip side, there's no fans there. Somebody's got 539 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 3: to get this team fired. Yeah, so you guys got 540 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 3: to bring a little bit of energy when you're on 541 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 3: the bench. But you know, it'd be nice to see 542 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 3: Beverly actually step on the court and then back up 543 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 3: his trash talk. And you know, Marcus Morris, I don't know, man, 544 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 3: He's got an entire half of a basketball court. He 545 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 3: could have stepped anywhere and he ended up stepping on 546 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 3: the injured guy's injured ankle. 547 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: Come on, okay, But then I will say, I will 548 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: say he does feel like the type of guy if 549 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: he did it intention that he would own it. I 550 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: don't know, I get that vibe from him. He would 551 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: say after the game. Yeah, he's out there with a 552 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: you know, a tweaked ankle, let's put it to the test, 553 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: or like he would even play it like dumb a 554 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: little bit, like I don't know. Maybe I did, maybe 555 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: I didn't, but he leaned into like I didn't mean 556 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: to do it. I didn't intentionally mean to step on him. 557 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: So okay, I think whatever you think, that's all, that's 558 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: all I does. 559 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 3: Well it's a fair point, but he probably also doesn't 560 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 3: want to get suspended for a playoff game, so you're 561 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 3: gonna you're gonna back yourself. But I also feel like 562 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 3: this is a place where the in arena DJs could 563 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 3: be a little bit better, because, like you're saying, we've 564 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 3: had a lot of tense moments between these two teams. 565 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 3: They've gone even close to getting close to forehead to forehead. 566 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 3: This is when the in arena dj needs to pipe 567 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 3: in the booze because that's what you would hear in 568 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 3: a playoff game, right, Like if Marcus Morris steps on 569 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,239 Speaker 3: Luca Doncis's ankle in Dallas, the crowd's going crazy at him. 570 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: We need to hear those booze pipe in the booze. 571 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 3: I don't think the players are going to be offended 572 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 3: that a DJ is playing booze for them, even though 573 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 3: last there, well, okay, fair enough, but I mean they 574 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 3: did it. You know in game four was when the 575 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 3: forehead to four had arms went down. There are times 576 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 3: when you could you can beef up the atmosphere, no 577 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 3: doubt about it. 578 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: Think about it, well, well. 579 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 4: The thing is, often when a player has got an injury, 580 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 4: the other team does go after it, sometimes you know, 581 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 4: in a subtle way. So that's not completely uncommon. But 582 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 4: I also think that the Clippers probably have underestimated Luka Doncic. 583 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 4: The fact that the series is now even three two, 584 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 4: I think has sort of got the Clippers to focus 585 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 4: a little more because I think when they saw they 586 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 4: came into this series and you know, they have got 587 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 4: the better defense, and they've got a you know, well 588 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 4: not a better offense, but they've got more weapons. I 589 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 4: guess overall, the Clippers probably thought we're going to win 590 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 4: this series in four or five games, but that that 591 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 4: game four win that made it too too. I think 592 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 4: that really sort of shook the Clippers up. And they 593 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 4: came out and this one so focused and so determined 594 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 4: to say, you know, especially with no pausingers, like we 595 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 4: don't want to get to that position again with Doncic 596 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 4: and I mean, he's been so good. I think the 597 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 4: Clippers are trying to make it like send a little 598 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 4: message to say, like, you know, we want to hurt 599 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:54,959 Speaker 4: this guy, we want to beat him up. We want 600 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 4: him to know what it's like to be in the players. 601 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 4: So without doing anything you know, completely dirty or illegal, 602 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 4: but those little sort of niggly things that you do, 603 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 4: I mean that that's kind of what happens in the playoffs. 604 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 4: So and Morris is there for that reason in a 605 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 4: lot of ways as well, Like he's the sort of 606 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 4: guy who's out there who's gonna, you know, throw a 607 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 4: few bumps and bruises around and try to get the 608 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 4: other guys off their game. 609 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: So it's but he intentionally stepped on Luca's ankle foot? 610 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: Is that dirty? I mean, do you believe that's crossing 611 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: the line. I mean like a guy going in for 612 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: a layup and you know you're putting a little bit 613 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: more into the foul. I mean, it's not it is different. 614 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 4: I mean, it's certainly approaching that dirty territory if he 615 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 4: goes over and just boots him, of course that that 616 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 4: clearly is. But at the same time as well, you 617 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 4: sometimes just want to remind the guy, hey, we know 618 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 4: your ankle's hurting, like we well, we're coming close to it. 619 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 4: You know, it's all that the mental game that you're 620 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 4: playing with teams. So again, I don't you know, it's 621 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 4: different if you see a guy just like lay another 622 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 4: guy out. That's that's completely dirty. But a little bit 623 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 4: of like, hey, how's that ankle, man, how's that ankle? 624 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 4: You know, just sort of testing it out. 625 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: It's it's okay. 626 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 4: I mean, that's what happens in the playoffs. Everyone's trying 627 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 4: to win, everyone's trying to compete, and you know those 628 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 4: are those are the sorts of things that happened. 629 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there's no doubt Luca thinks he did 630 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: it intentionally. If you saw his comments after the game, 631 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: without saying so as much he's saying, I hope he didn't. 632 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 4: But you know, yeah, that's those sorts of response as 633 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 4: a standard Morris. I didn't do it on purpose, Luca, 634 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 4: Yes you did. I mean that they that's exactly what happens. 635 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 4: You know, the person who's accused of it, nah, what 636 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 4: are you crazy? And the person who gets hits like 637 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 4: you absolutely did, like because you know, these athletes don't 638 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 4: clumsily just all of a sudden put my foot near 639 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 4: your foot. 640 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: I mean there's you know, they. 641 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 4: Know exactly what they're doing. 642 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 5: Yeah. 643 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: The other thing I would add to that, and Lucas said, 644 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: this is like he was talking junk all game, right, 645 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 1: he's talking trash all game. I mean he's not being 646 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: polite all game. And then suddenly now my ankle is 647 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: being stepped on. 648 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 649 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,719 Speaker 1: You can't put you know, you know, two and two 650 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: together there. Maybe Yeah, we'll see so playoff p though, 651 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: Let's give him some credit here. Yeah, like the game 652 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: was over in the first quarter, tast I mean, the 653 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: Clippers went on a thirty two to six run in 654 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: the final eight to thirty of the quarter. 655 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 5: They came back from twenty one points in game number four. Yeah, 656 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 5: but especially I felt Obviously it felt different because they 657 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 5: didn't give up that lead. That's for sure. It was abomination. 658 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: Do you think they played Luca a little bit differently too, defensively, 659 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: like in throwing more guys at him and trying to 660 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: obviously get a little more physical with them, like or like, 661 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: what what was your take on that? Because some people 662 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: were saying, well, well, nothing changed, it was just Luca 663 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: missing shots or whatever. What's your take on that. 664 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 5: They made sure they got their good guys on him 665 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 5: a little less, Reggie a little more Kawhi, Marcus, Paul George, Right, 666 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 5: And I think that was the important part. And Doc 667 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 5: Rivers had said it after game four, we have not 668 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 5: executed against Lebron Lebron. I called him Lebron, Luca Lebron. Yeah, 669 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 5: he's entering that stratosphere for that Quinte. But yeah, he 670 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 5: is entering that that conversation. Is he at the table anyway? Yes, 671 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 5: I think they just got their good guys on him. 672 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 5: I think that was the number one priority and and 673 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 5: it helped for sure. And also the adrenaline of Game 674 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 5: four had subsided for Luca. You know, that was it 675 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 5: was an incredible performance. Kris STAPs doesn't come back again, 676 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 5: so you could expect a bit of a you know, 677 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 5: the deflating performance from them. And Kawhi got his fresh 678 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 5: straight backs hair do, and you know, just watch Kawhi 679 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 5: Leonard he comes out of the locker room with his 680 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 5: fresh straight backs. If you got those those locks tightened up, 681 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 5: as Kayla Gray said, he's ready. The guy is ready. 682 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 5: He's been ready off freaking serious. 683 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not worried about him. But it was playoff 684 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: b who was ready in this one? Thirty five points, 685 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: twenty five minutes, twelve eighteen four to three, three boards 686 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: to assists and he won me ten dollars when you 687 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: pay me the ten dollars. 688 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 5: Lee want? 689 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, we cash up with Venmo these days? What are 690 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 4: we on now? 691 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: I'm a Venmo gay right now? Cash out? Can you 692 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: pick us no more? Yeah? 693 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 4: Hey, listen, I will I will say, like a great 694 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 4: performance from Paul George. But I also want to give 695 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 4: him credit for admitting after the game, you know, he 696 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 4: was in a dark place and he went and saw 697 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 4: the Clippers team psychologist and he said afterwards, I underestimated 698 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 4: mental health. Honestly, I had anxiety a little bit of 699 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 4: depression from being locked in here. I just wasn't here. 700 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 4: I was checked out Games two, three, and four. I 701 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 4: wasn't there. And I think that takes courage for Paul 702 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 4: George to admit that to a national TV audience. I 703 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 4: know we are trying to least the stigma of admitting 704 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 4: to having any mental health issues, but Paul George coming 705 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 4: out there and saying I had it, and then he 706 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 4: went and dealt with it, and look at the performance 707 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 4: that he that he put in there yesterday. So I 708 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 4: just think that that is something that you know, he 709 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 4: probably was dealing with that and thinking he could just 710 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 4: shake it off, but instead he went and spoke to 711 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 4: someone and he had a you know, incredible game for it. 712 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 4: So I think he deserves a lot of applause for that, 713 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 4: for standing up and not being afraid to admit that 714 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 4: he needed help, and he went out and got it. 715 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 4: And you can see the results of just speaking to somebody, 716 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 4: you know, and talking to somebody. So I think that's 717 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 4: truly a great thing that Paul George did. 718 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: So you think that did more to affect his outcoming 719 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: Game five than Shack maybe sort of texting him Shack 720 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: texting Mantres Harald to tell him to score a bunch 721 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: of boys. 722 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,239 Speaker 4: Ye, well yeah, I was going to say skezzy though 723 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 4: with their ten dollar bet, I think I should appeal 724 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 4: because I think those last eight points game in garbage time. 725 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: I don't think you're lucky. I mean, I mean, well, 726 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: I guess I'm lucky. I thought I was like, oh, 727 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: it's having an awesome game, but they're destroying them and 728 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: he's not gonna play a ton in the second half, 729 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: and he's gonna come up short. He's gonna have like 730 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: twenty eight, twenty nine to thirty points and I'm not 731 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: gonna win this bet. But I think because of Game four, 732 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: and because of how testy this game got, Doc Rivers 733 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: and that squad they were trying to send a message. 734 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: There's no doubt this is not how NBA games go. 735 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: Playoffs are not where a team's up like forty five 736 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: points or whatever it got to that usually just shrinks 737 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: down to like twenty. Right, it's garbage time, takes your 738 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: stars out. You know, we still have games to play 739 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: in this series. This is the first round at that. 740 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: But they were like sort of pedal to the metal, like, no, 741 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: let's bury them. This is a bit of a release 742 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: for a playoff p to get him going and just 743 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: for our entire team get this big win. So yeah, 744 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: I got lucky a little bit, I'll admit. But what 745 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: a call by me to switch up my Middleton bet? 746 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: Oh Man, great move. I loved it. I guess it 747 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: was Yulie that gave me the offer. So thank you 748 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: for giving me ten bucks. Yeah, they just figured out 749 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: a way to give you ten bucks. 750 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 5: You gotta love it. 751 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 4: Well, that's it's just like I think, you know, you 752 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 4: know you've got that money, you're winning the bet, and 753 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 4: you're like, all right, I just want to throw it 754 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 4: in there and see if I can get in this 755 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 4: bet right now. So I'm glad it's ever. 756 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: So do I win another ten dollars if Middleton goes 757 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: for thirty five? 758 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: Oh? 759 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 4: You want to double enough? 760 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: No, I don't come on, Come on. I am walking 761 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: away from the table and going straight to my room. 762 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: I got my blinders on. I'm not looking at the 763 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,959 Speaker 1: roulette table. I'm not seeing tasks over there at the bar. 764 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: Say nope, go right to my room. 765 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 4: Smart move, smart move in box and enjoy it. 766 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: Just before we move on from this, we don't know 767 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: KP's situation whether he's gonna play in Game six. But 768 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: is this series a rap? I mean, the the place 769 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: or the magics. Excuse me? Put up a good fight, 770 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: but it'll be over come Game six. 771 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 5: Trade. 772 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: What do you think? You can't count out Luca right now? 773 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,719 Speaker 3: There's no doubt about that. He's still a little hobble 774 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 3: and if the Clippers are going to be committed to 775 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 3: keeping their longer, better defenders on him, that hurts you. 776 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 3: It definitely feels like this is tilted towards the South, 777 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 3: towards the Clippers. You know, we didn't have a great 778 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 3: Seth Curry game yesterday. We didn't have a huge Trey 779 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 3: Burke game, And those have been a couple of guys 780 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 3: who have performed really well for the Mavericks so far. 781 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 3: They've got to all play great and Game six, and 782 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 3: it's gonna be tough. You know, elimination games are the 783 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 3: hardest for the team that's trying to do the eliminating. 784 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 3: So maybe you got a little bit of an advantage 785 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 3: there if you're the Mavericks knowing you got forty eight 786 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 3: minutes to save your season. It feels like the Clippers 787 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 3: have figured something out. We have our best guys guard 788 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 3: their best guy and our best guys are going to 789 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 3: show up, And yeah, Lee, you're right. You totally nailed 790 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,720 Speaker 3: it about Paul George. Unfortunately, I hated or I loved 791 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 3: every single word of what he said after the game. 792 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 3: As soon as he said the bubble got to me, 793 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 3: I one hundred percent felt for the guy. I was like, 794 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 3: at least he's admitting it. At least he's being honest 795 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 3: about what's been going on for him since the pandemic 796 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 3: P jokes have started. He was Playoff P last night. 797 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: I was rooting for him. 798 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it, and I felt great when he 799 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 3: admitted that things had gotten dark for him. Oo among 800 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 3: us haven't been sitting there looking at our phone, scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, 801 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 3: letting the negativity fill your mind to the point where 802 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,919 Speaker 3: it really just throws you off your day. For most 803 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 3: of us, it doesn't happen during the NBA playoffs, but 804 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 3: for him it did. So credit to him for showing 805 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 3: up and credit to him for being honest about what 806 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 3: was going through his mind. 807 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 1: Did Playoff P take to Instagram last night to like, 808 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: shut up the haters with a post at all? I 809 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: didn't check so at that point. I don't know. Yeah, 810 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: you look that up, but task, what do you think 811 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 1: is this still in a rap? You know the MAVs 812 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: have played well, we don't. Again, we don't know Kristaps Porzingis. 813 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: If he plays. I think it's a different game. I 814 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: think there's a potential to maybe give us a game seven, 815 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: but I don't know if they would even risk that 816 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: at this point. Right. 817 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, the Mavericks organization is definitely hesitant. They play it 818 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 5: safe with their stars. But the Clippers do have their 819 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 5: second best player back. They just walloped with one hundred 820 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 5: and fifty spot on the MAVs. And we hear these 821 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 5: numbers year in and year out about well, this team 822 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 5: in a sorry, in a three one situation, it's this 823 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 5: percentage that this team is going to win, and this 824 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 5: number has kind of just flown over my head. But 825 00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 5: game fives are pivotal. They're pivotal eight percent if you 826 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 5: win game five when it's too two. Wow that that 827 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 5: and Ernie Johnson said yesterday, and my god, I've been 828 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 5: talking about basketball for fifteen years and I forgot that number. 829 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 5: It's just it's it's sort of skipped my mind. But 830 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 5: I guess it also was just reaffirmed with this Clippers 831 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 5: team and the showing that they put on at that 832 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 5: eighty two sounds more like ninety five. It just feels 833 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 5: like that that number is just so strong right now 834 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 5: because yeah, the best team has has shown up and 835 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 5: they've they showed up for parts of games. But now 836 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 5: now it's yeah, Kawhi time, like they just like last year, 837 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 5: they didn't want to put Kawhi that the Raptors did 838 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 5: on the other team's best player, and not that he 839 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 5: was the Lucas stopper yesterday. I think he was sort 840 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 5: of the Trey Burke stopper to start, which was important. 841 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 5: But they just know that we got to stop this 842 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 5: guy Lucas shown. But you know, the nastiness level dirty 843 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 5: or not, I think is important for this for a 844 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 5: doct Ers and Clippers team, and they've got all the 845 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 5: ingredients to win. 846 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break here to hear from our 847 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: sponsors because we got a lot more news. 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The twenty 913 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: five year old beat out Anthony Davis and Rudy Gobert 914 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: to earn the honor for the first time in his 915 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: seven year career. He received seventy five first place vote, 916 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: so he sort of ran away with this one. Was 917 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 1: anyone shocked from Jannis taking DPOY and are they upset 918 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 1: like the Lakers fans are, that Anthony Davis didn't grab this. 919 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 3: You know, Anthony Davis had a lot of marketing going 920 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 3: towards his Defensive Player of the Year candidacy, and it 921 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 3: felt like Jannis's candidacy was gonna be, Oh, yeah, I'm 922 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 3: the best defensive player on the best defensive team and 923 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 3: that's what won out, and that's what should have won out. 924 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: Is it a surprise. 925 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 3: I don't really think it's a surprise, And to me, 926 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 3: it's like barely even an announcement because we're more excited 927 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 3: for Yiannis to win his second MVP and then therefore 928 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 3: become the third player ever to have a Defensive Player 929 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 3: of the Year and an MVP in the same season, 930 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 3: joining Jordan and Elijah on On. Those are a couple 931 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 3: of legendary names. It's a legendary thing to be considered 932 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,879 Speaker 3: the best player in the league and also the best 933 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 3: defender during the same season, So this is very cool 934 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 3: for Janus. He has been an incredible defender. There is 935 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 3: a good system in Milwaukee that really plays to the 936 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 3: strengths of the players they've got around, and there were 937 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 3: some cases to be made for brook Lopez as their 938 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 3: most important defensive guy, but I think this really shows 939 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 3: that despite the fact that Lopez is a great rim 940 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,439 Speaker 3: protector and that he is instrumental to the Bucks as 941 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,320 Speaker 3: a quality defense, it really is Janis that makes the 942 00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 3: show go because it makes it so that Lopez can 943 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 3: at the rim. It makes it so that Jannis is 944 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 3: a guy that can clean up all the mistakes that 945 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 3: even if a Brook Lopez makes. He can guard so 946 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,800 Speaker 3: many different guys, and of course he's grabbing the rebounds 947 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 3: to which is an important part of defense. So very 948 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 3: cool for Yannis. Not a surprising award, and it's gonna 949 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 3: be even more awesome when he's got two trophies. 950 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 1: To put up on his mantle this year. They should 951 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,879 Speaker 1: have they should have done them at the same time, right, hmm, 952 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 1: I mean I would have been badass, But yeah, the 953 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: numbers are there in Giannis's favor. Defensive rating ninety seven 954 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,919 Speaker 1: point one, best in the NBA by a mile. Also 955 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,879 Speaker 1: ranked number one in defensive wind shares defensive box plus minus. Yeah, 956 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,839 Speaker 1: not much of Sprie. Maybe a surprise that he got 957 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: as many first place votes as he gotten, and also 958 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 1: surprised some of the other votes that we saw in 959 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: this league, some perplexing ones. Yes, Andre Drummonds, Hassan Whiteside. 960 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 4: Yes, okay, yeah, Well look at Hassan Whiteside as a 961 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 4: help defender. Contributes to his saying he comes over and 962 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 4: gets block shots, but as a pick and roll defender, 963 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 4: as a post defender, he's awful, awful, and he's also 964 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 4: a very bad effort defender. And I think that's really 965 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 4: what stands out to me as well about Yannis is 966 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 4: that Yannis is always hunting down opportunities on the defensive 967 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 4: end to steal, to create deflections, to block shots that 968 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 4: Jannis gets stunked on quite a few times throughout the 969 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 4: season because he's chasing so many he's trying to stop 970 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 4: so many shots. But Hassan Whiteside, he often just doesn't 971 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 4: even try. It doesn't even make the effort to even 972 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 4: look like he's trying. So, you know, you can look 973 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 4: at stats and say, well, this guy gets a lot 974 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 4: of blocks out, must mean he's a good defender. But 975 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 4: if you watch the game and you see the way 976 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 4: that Whiteside contributes on the defensive end, he doesn't deserve 977 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 4: anywhere near the consideration the Defensive Player of the Year 978 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,840 Speaker 4: that someone like Yannis does. And Yannis knows that. You know, 979 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 4: the defense starts with the leader of the team, and 980 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 4: Brook Lopez has been great, but Jannis is a much 981 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 4: better defender and overall he's the one that just gets 982 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 4: things going for them and that's what makes them such 983 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 4: a good team. This season starts on that defensive end, 984 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 4: so worthy winner happy to see him do it, and yeah, 985 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 4: he's going to have He's going to join Jordan and 986 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 4: the kim Olojaan. I think Elijah One's the only guy though, 987 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 4: who actually want a championship, and that's the season that 988 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 4: he won both of those awards, So that's something that 989 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 4: that Jordan wasn't even able to achieve. And that'll be 990 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 4: pretty interesting if Yannis will join a Hakeem in that situation, 991 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 4: if if the Buck's going to win at. 992 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 1: All, Only five players have ever won MVP and Defensive 993 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 1: Player of the Year, like you know you said Jordan 994 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 1: Elijah did in the same season, and Johannis will very 995 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,720 Speaker 1: likely join that club, but only five guys ever, Janis 996 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,839 Speaker 1: Jordan Elijaha, and then David Robinson has both and Kevin 997 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,360 Speaker 1: Garnett has both. I saw Josh Ebery note that we 998 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 1: might need a nickname for this extensive club, so we'll 999 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: throw that at the YouTube comments. I mean, what what 1000 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,439 Speaker 1: do you call this very unique club of having both 1001 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 1: of those? Only five you know, all time, pretty damn amazing, 1002 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,319 Speaker 1: unbelievable list there. So I don't know if I'm sure 1003 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,280 Speaker 1: Lee would like to find a way to work double 1004 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 1: ender in there somehow MVP D Nope, that's what happens. 1005 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 1: Not a manscaped dad exactly. 1006 00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 5: A great comment though from John Chuis speaking about man escaping. 1007 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 5: He says, Drummond talk about man escaping, well, then well done, 1008 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,320 Speaker 5: John chu If you know about Andre Drummond's body history, 1009 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 5: that'll be funny too. 1010 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1011 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 1: Drummond getting the first place vote, I guess it was 1012 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: the same voter. I believe his name is Greg Logan. 1013 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 1: He's owned it. I mean, he's on Twitter that he 1014 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 1: had Drummond first overall Defensive Player of the Year. And 1015 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:25,839 Speaker 1: white Side number two. 1016 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,839 Speaker 4: Well he earned it, but I believe that tweet has 1017 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 4: been deleted. 1018 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 5: The Yeah, well, I believe they. 1019 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,439 Speaker 1: Should also remove his voting credentials. I'm sorry. I don't 1020 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 1: know Greg Logan personally, but put a little too much 1021 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 1: stock into the rebound numbers there. Maybe I don't know, man, 1022 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 1: I thought this was a great throwback vote. This was 1023 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 1: a vote from like twenty ten, maybe even earlier two 1024 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 1: thousand and five. You look at the numbers, you're like, wow, 1025 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 1: Hassan white Side led the lead in blocks. That's actually surprising. 1026 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,359 Speaker 3: Number two to me. His numbers don't quite add up though, 1027 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 3: to the numbers of Andre Drummonds, so he's got to 1028 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 3: be number one. Don't watch the game, just look at 1029 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 3: the numbers. 1030 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 1: He did have Gianna's third I think on his ballot. Yeah, 1031 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 1: that's pretty good. Yeah, it is. It is interesting too, 1032 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 1: you know, with this award, it goes generally to someone 1033 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,319 Speaker 1: that excels more defensively than they do offensively. Right, that's 1034 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,799 Speaker 1: you know Noah's and the Greens and the go Beart. 1035 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 1: So it is, uh, it's not refreshing, but it's sort 1036 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,800 Speaker 1: of cool. I mean, even if ad had wanted to 1037 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 1: see a guy that like, oh, yeah, I can also 1038 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 1: give you thirty every night, is also maybe the best 1039 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 1: defensive player in the league or is so that that 1040 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,840 Speaker 1: was pretty cool. We also had votes for Ben Simmons 1041 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 1: and bam Adebayo and Marcus Smart and others received votes, 1042 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,439 Speaker 1: and I think only really the Drummond and white Side 1043 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 1: one were the crazy ones. You get the odd like 1044 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,399 Speaker 1: Jared Allen getting like, you know, a third place vote 1045 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 1: because people do that. They're like, this doesn't really mean anything, 1046 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,359 Speaker 1: this third place vote, whatever it counts for, So let's 1047 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 1: give it to a guy that I like and it's 1048 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: been good. Not that he's been a bad defender by 1049 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 1: any means, but yeah, anything else to add to this test? 1050 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: You weren't shocked with Giannis there? Did you like the 1051 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,319 Speaker 1: did you like the ceremony? I know you were big 1052 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 1: on the Nick Nurse one. Did you like how they 1053 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,399 Speaker 1: did this one with Honest? He had this whole team 1054 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 1: there and the coaches and stuff like that. 1055 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,840 Speaker 5: Well, ye, Honest was definitely pretty emotional about this about 1056 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,440 Speaker 5: this one. He was he was, He got to him, 1057 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 5: definitely got to him. I can't wait to see his 1058 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,840 Speaker 5: MVP speech. How emotional he's going to be for that, 1059 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 5: and I think the Bucks will turn it up a notch. 1060 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:22,880 Speaker 5: They're probably saving the fireworks for for the MVP ceremony, 1061 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 5: just you know, maybe get a little more special, maybe 1062 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 5: a little surprise, and don't worry that they didn't do 1063 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 5: it together. I'm sure they'll bring up the Defensive Player 1064 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 5: of the Year trophy. I did want to see a 1065 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 5: little bit more of a comic relief from Brook Lopez. 1066 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,399 Speaker 5: I mean that was he was sitting right there. Brooke 1067 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 5: handed him the trophy if you didn't see it when 1068 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 5: the announcement was made. But you know, no real jokes 1069 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 5: from brook Lopez, nothing, nothing really from Brook just a 1070 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,479 Speaker 5: couple just a couple stares across. If you just watch, 1071 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 5: if you if you want a creepy stare, just put 1072 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 5: the camera on Brook Lopez. Mike, my goodness, guracious, just 1073 00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 5: have an ISO camera that guy some creepy stares across. 1074 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 5: But it was nice to to hear Jannis emotional about it, 1075 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 5: and and also Mike Budenholzer come out and speak about 1076 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 5: Jacob Blake, which happening in their home state of Wisconsin 1077 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 5: and Kenosha, Wisconsin. Nobody mincing words in the NBA everybody 1078 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 5: not forgetting what they are down there to do, and 1079 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:23,400 Speaker 5: basketball has definitely taken a front seat, and that has 1080 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 5: bothered some players like it has George Hill and I 1081 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,719 Speaker 5: know we'll get to the boycott story here, but Budenholzer 1082 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 5: doesn't mess around. He doesn't and that was definitely a 1083 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,440 Speaker 5: part of their day. So it was I'm sure it's 1084 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,399 Speaker 5: an emotional day for all of them, and that team 1085 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,320 Speaker 5: was there. It was nice to see all of the 1086 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 5: guys there and it's it's a unit, it's a it's 1087 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 5: a special unit. League bubble thing we've got going on here, 1088 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 5: but the work has not stopped for everybody down there, 1089 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 5: So that was it was refreshing to hear coach talk 1090 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 5: about that. 1091 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, before we get to this possibility of players boycotting 1092 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 1: games being thrown around, what'd you think of Shack's Greek tasks? 1093 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:04,800 Speaker 1: I wanted you to break that down. Did you catch that? 1094 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,320 Speaker 1: Whey were he tried to speak Greek? 1095 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,240 Speaker 5: Yeah? I was, uh, I was with Janis. I didn't 1096 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,880 Speaker 5: understand half of it. 1097 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 4: He did. 1098 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 5: He tried to say, which is congratulations, and Yannis got that. 1099 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,840 Speaker 5: I got that too, But after that, I don't know, 1100 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 5: I'm really really confused because I don't know what he 1101 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 5: was He just he just stopped. I think he was 1102 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 5: going that syllable for syllable, and it's really tough to 1103 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,879 Speaker 5: to wrap your mind around with what was going on there. 1104 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 5: Somebody you got that part, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, somebody uh, 1105 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 5: somebody up there underdog probably did a little Google Translate 1106 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 5: for him and threw that sheet in front of him 1107 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,840 Speaker 5: before the show. And I don't know, you know, and 1108 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 5: Shaq's not the most clearly spoken guy, as much as 1109 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,640 Speaker 5: Shaq is the the greatest up there. Yeah, I didn't 1110 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 5: know what the heck he was saying. No, And multiple 1111 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:59,239 Speaker 5: times he repeated it and Yannis couldn't get it, and 1112 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 5: they went back to that can you say Yannis's last 1113 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 5: name joke as well? You know, they like repeating jokes 1114 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,880 Speaker 5: there skeets and inside the NBA. It wasn't right to 1115 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 5: the board. But yeah, Shaq has tried to say his 1116 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,360 Speaker 5: name before. Oh he did it pretty well though. He 1117 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 5: actually did it very well in comparison to last time. 1118 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 1: They Sorry, I'm a little distracted. The French drained guy 1119 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:21,840 Speaker 1: is literally out the window. 1120 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 5: Who was that Danny our audio guy? 1121 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:27,839 Speaker 4: Oh? 1122 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 1: Definitely, Well, I guess I'm missing. The guy tells me 1123 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 1: he's coming at at lunch. I'll be around lunch. They 1124 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 1: never really Yeah, well, I know that's why I was 1125 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,799 Speaker 1: talking to Nora. I was like, now, I'll be fine. 1126 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,879 Speaker 1: He says lunch. That means he's gonna call me around 1127 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,279 Speaker 1: twelve thirty. He'll be here around one. And then here 1128 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:47,759 Speaker 1: he is. He showed up like a half hour ago. 1129 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,320 Speaker 1: He's been out the window like this whole time. I 1130 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:50,760 Speaker 1: keep looking over anyway. 1131 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 5: People need work, people need work. 1132 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,400 Speaker 1: I was gonna say something about the Greek and Shack thing, 1133 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 1: and I can't remember, so let's just move on, all right. 1134 00:50:58,400 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 1: The other piece of news I want to get to you. 1135 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 1: We were alluding to it. The Raptors and Celtics are 1136 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,560 Speaker 1: scheduled to play in the Eastern Conference semifinals starting tomorrow, 1137 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,239 Speaker 1: but members of both teams have discussed boycotting games in 1138 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,360 Speaker 1: protests of Jacob Blake being shot multiple times by police 1139 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 1: officers in Wisconsin. Norman Powell told reporters of boycott is 1140 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 1: being talked about because quote, taking a knee is not 1141 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,880 Speaker 1: getting it done. Marcus Smart echoed those sentiments, quote it's 1142 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,720 Speaker 1: something in the back of our mind, there's more important 1143 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,759 Speaker 1: things in basketball right now. You said it, Tasks. There's 1144 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,800 Speaker 1: a lot of guys speaking out about this. Fan Vleet, 1145 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 1: Jalen Brown, George Hill, of course, Lebron. Yeah, I just 1146 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,239 Speaker 1: like want to get your opinion on this. I wanted 1147 00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,919 Speaker 1: to obviously get this in the show of I don't 1148 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,840 Speaker 1: know that I'm saying, like, what would your reaction to 1149 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 1: be if the Celtics and Raptors decide to not play 1150 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:47,319 Speaker 1: basketball tomorrow night? But yeah, just your overall of what's 1151 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 1: happened over the last couple of days here again in 1152 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 1: this country, and you know, the burden sort of being 1153 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: put on these players. I think, what do you think, Trey. 1154 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 3: I definitely feel for the NBA players that they have 1155 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,320 Speaker 3: to go and answer these questions about the police shooting 1156 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 3: another black man and then go out and try and 1157 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 3: play a playoff basketball game. It's an impossible situation that 1158 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 3: they are in right now. And Michelle Roberts told David 1159 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,800 Speaker 3: Aldridge that there's just a feeling of helplessness, and I 1160 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,840 Speaker 3: think that that's what you're getting from a guy like 1161 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 3: George Hill saying there's nothing we can do in the bubble, 1162 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,359 Speaker 3: and that's why it seems like the boycott talk has 1163 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 3: started because there are a set of league approved protests, 1164 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,320 Speaker 3: which means that they're not really protests, right like, you 1165 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,239 Speaker 3: can kneel for the anthem, you can wear this set 1166 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,319 Speaker 3: of phrases on the back of your jersey. But those 1167 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,439 Speaker 3: are just words and those are just images that we see. 1168 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 3: Perhaps a boycott one of the very few things that 1169 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 3: the players could actually do to put pressure on governors 1170 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,720 Speaker 3: to therefore put pressure on politicians and other influential people. 1171 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,839 Speaker 3: I think that that's why you're hearing that they're trying 1172 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 3: to figure out something they can do to keep the 1173 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 3: focus on the Black Lives Matter movement, on police brutality 1174 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 3: and the systemic racism that has infected police forces across 1175 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 3: the country for hundreds and hundreds of years, trying to 1176 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,280 Speaker 3: figure out anything they can do to be a positive 1177 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 3: voice and a positive to give positive messages to the 1178 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 3: people out in the communities. You saw Jalen Brown tweeting, 1179 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:11,840 Speaker 3: I want to be out there protesting. I think that 1180 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,799 Speaker 3: that's players are trying to find out what they can 1181 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,280 Speaker 3: actually do to have an impact while staying in the bubble, 1182 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,640 Speaker 3: and if that means that they're boycotting more power to them, 1183 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,319 Speaker 3: because there's not a lot they can do at this point, 1184 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 3: since they're there and things have already started, we're already 1185 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 3: in the middle of the playoffs. It's an impossible situation 1186 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 3: for them. It's not their job to be to be 1187 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,320 Speaker 3: the most visible voices in police brutality. But the police 1188 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,760 Speaker 3: have continued to shoot people while we're in the bubble, 1189 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,400 Speaker 3: and players we're hoping. I assume that all of this 1190 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 3: messaging regarding black Lives Matter and the social justice messages 1191 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,160 Speaker 3: on the back of the jersey would keep the momentum 1192 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,680 Speaker 3: going to the point that people wouldn't have to be 1193 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,719 Speaker 3: reacting to this during the bubble. Obviously nobody thought that 1194 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,480 Speaker 3: T shirts were going to solve the problem, but maybe 1195 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,480 Speaker 3: continuing to talk about it would prevent It's something from 1196 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,799 Speaker 3: happening in the meantime that hasn't happened, and now we're 1197 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 3: getting a lot more questions about another shooting. So a 1198 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 3: boycott is something that could possibly have an effect. We'll 1199 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,320 Speaker 3: see if it actually happens. There's a lot of emotions 1200 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 3: right now. That's another phrase you heard from quite a 1201 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,880 Speaker 3: few players. People are hurting, they're trying to figure out 1202 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:17,279 Speaker 3: what they can. 1203 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 1: Do to help. Yeah, I think that's right. I think 1204 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 1: the players, I think a lot of people, empathetic people 1205 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:23,680 Speaker 1: at that at least, are trying to figure out how 1206 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,799 Speaker 1: to translate words and emotions like you said, into action 1207 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,720 Speaker 1: and what do you do? And it leaves you feeling 1208 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,279 Speaker 1: a little bit like sort of hopeless and like what 1209 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 1: can I do? And like this isn't working? So maybe 1210 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 1: now we try this. I think that's where some of 1211 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,759 Speaker 1: their heads are going. But taskly anything that. 1212 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,320 Speaker 4: I'll just say. Last night at the Republican National Convention, 1213 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,000 Speaker 4: the Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron spoke. Now, he's the 1214 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 4: one who has the power to arrest the police officer 1215 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,160 Speaker 4: who murdered Breonna Taylor. He hasn't done that yet, and 1216 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,640 Speaker 4: he should be doing that. There is absolutely no reason 1217 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 4: why this has dragged. 1218 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 6: On for this long. 1219 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,239 Speaker 4: There's no question that the police went in there, she 1220 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,280 Speaker 4: was asleep and they murdered her in asleep. They should 1221 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 4: be arrested immediately and charged with murder. And there's no 1222 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,879 Speaker 4: question whatsoever that that should happen today. And it's taken 1223 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 4: far too long. That he's making excuses, he's delaying things 1224 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,399 Speaker 4: and that's simply not good enough. That there's no way 1225 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,040 Speaker 4: a person should be asleep in their own bed at home. 1226 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,680 Speaker 4: People break into their house and murder it, and that 1227 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,319 Speaker 4: has happened by police officers, and the Attorney General Daniel 1228 00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:26,520 Speaker 4: Cameron has not taken action, and that is simply unforgivable, 1229 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,319 Speaker 4: unforgivable at this point. So rather than getting up there 1230 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:33,160 Speaker 4: and being a spokesman for the Trump campaign, get out 1231 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,400 Speaker 4: and do your job and arrest the police officers who 1232 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 4: murdered Brianna Taylor. 1233 00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, enough people have to care about that to pressure 1234 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:46,880 Speaker 5: politicians to actually make changes. And I really really appreciate 1235 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:51,880 Speaker 5: all the NBA players being ridiculously vulnerable and seeing what 1236 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:57,240 Speaker 5: they feel and being extremely emotional and just expressing everything 1237 00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,919 Speaker 5: that is inside them, because I don't think this would 1238 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,520 Speaker 5: have happened ten years ago in the NBA. And this 1239 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:07,319 Speaker 5: has obviously been an issue in America for a long time, 1240 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 5: and basketball players are taking a step in the right 1241 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,239 Speaker 5: direction in general, just as somebody who's covered the league 1242 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,239 Speaker 5: for a long time, I'm proud of watching all these 1243 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,879 Speaker 5: guys having to put their hearts on the line, which 1244 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,680 Speaker 5: is so so unfortunate, but they're doing it. Because people 1245 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,960 Speaker 5: need to do it. And the fact is that, yeah, 1246 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 5: the Kentucky Attorney General has the ability to do it. 1247 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,600 Speaker 5: But I don't think boycotting a game. I don't even 1248 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,280 Speaker 5: know if these guys just decided, hey, we're not playing 1249 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,640 Speaker 5: or both. Boycotting the rest of the season changes anything 1250 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:46,919 Speaker 5: amongst lawmakers, amongst legislators, amongst Congress. It doesn't do enough. 1251 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,920 Speaker 5: That's not enough to actually change police systems, which have 1252 00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,839 Speaker 5: to be torn down and built up. So shooting people 1253 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,279 Speaker 5: isn't the first and second option, but the absolute last option. 1254 00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,759 Speaker 5: As jd Is said in the past, you have have 1255 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,480 Speaker 5: to actually tear it down to build it back up. 1256 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,360 Speaker 5: And so more pressure from all corners of the country 1257 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 5: has to it has to has to happen, and it's 1258 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 5: it's really really sad what's happening in Kenosha, Wisconsin, not 1259 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:19,200 Speaker 5: just what happened shooting a man seven times in the back, 1260 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:23,240 Speaker 5: but also the follow where it's just a it's a 1261 00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 5: battleground for people who can't see that this was a 1262 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:30,000 Speaker 5: man that now it's it's more a political issue in 1263 00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:35,320 Speaker 5: that people are are continuing to fight at this you know, 1264 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:39,160 Speaker 5: this gas station where there was these a shootout essentially, 1265 00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,520 Speaker 5: and more people died, and so it's it's not just 1266 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 5: it is great to hear Fred van Vliet and George 1267 00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:52,360 Speaker 5: Hill and Jalen Brown. Those statements were gut wrenching, but 1268 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,080 Speaker 5: I hope that it translates to every person in this 1269 00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,120 Speaker 5: country that things have to change. Everything has to change. 1270 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,440 Speaker 5: And so yeah, it's it's, it's it's it's gonna be 1271 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 5: a slow, slow effect. And guys walking away from a 1272 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,840 Speaker 5: game on Thursday it might be a tiny, tiny signal 1273 00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:14,080 Speaker 5: to everybody. But I wonder what the conversations are behind 1274 00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:18,240 Speaker 5: closed doors, if it's even going to be bigger or 1275 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 5: things that need to be bigger, because it's the stuff. 1276 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 5: It's not the jerseys, it's the stuff that happens behind 1277 00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,600 Speaker 5: closed doors that's really going to change things. 1278 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,440 Speaker 1: We'll see what those both the Celtics, Raptors or other 1279 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,600 Speaker 1: teams decide to do. For sure. We got tweeted the 1280 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 1: night still to get to We got a fun one 1281 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,200 Speaker 1: to dissect. We'll look ahead to the games. But first, 1282 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,160 Speaker 1: another quick word from our sponsors. My got everybody wants 1283 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,360 Speaker 1: to sponsor? 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Let's get to tweet of the night. 1310 01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,920 Speaker 5: Tweet over night Wow Twitter. 1311 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:23,240 Speaker 4: Ohahlely So Tweet of the night is actually a video, 1312 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 4: but skeeze before you freak out. It's audio, so it's 1313 01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:29,360 Speaker 4: gonna work okay in the podcast video okay, And it 1314 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,400 Speaker 4: comes from NBA Twitter Live, which is an NBA and 1315 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,760 Speaker 4: T and T production. Yep, Kawhi Leonard had another great game. 1316 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,520 Speaker 4: We've already talked about that last night, but this video 1317 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:41,640 Speaker 4: features Channing Fry, Taylor Brooks, and Spencer Dinwiddie and Dinwoody 1318 01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,560 Speaker 4: is talking about where Kawhi Leonard stands right now and 1319 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,800 Speaker 4: as great as he is and he has been, but 1320 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 4: there's one reason that he may not ever enter the 1321 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:52,520 Speaker 4: true goat conversation. 1322 01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,120 Speaker 6: Bright if he was in the business of trying to 1323 01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,760 Speaker 6: be the greatest of all time, to Channing's point, probably 1324 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:02,360 Speaker 6: having a little bit more regular season production, a little 1325 01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,240 Speaker 6: bit more flash, a little bit more pizazzed, and then 1326 01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 6: also he probably just stays signed with Nike. Nike is 1327 01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,720 Speaker 6: the greatest marketing company in the history of the world, 1328 01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,720 Speaker 6: especially as it pertains to the greatest of all time 1329 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,120 Speaker 6: basketball conversation. If you look at all the best athletes 1330 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,440 Speaker 6: that have come through, and people say are in the 1331 01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:20,800 Speaker 6: goat conversation, what's the common denominator Nike? Krimodul Jabbar was Adidas, 1332 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:22,920 Speaker 6: and he's by far the best basket player of all time. 1333 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,480 Speaker 6: If we look at high school, college pro nobody. 1334 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:26,600 Speaker 5: Cares about him at all. 1335 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:31,120 Speaker 1: Oh, let's be real here, it's the truth. 1336 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:32,440 Speaker 5: It's the truth. 1337 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:37,200 Speaker 6: Is Lebron, Kobe, Mike, they tell the story better than 1338 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,920 Speaker 6: anybody else. Kawhi with New Balance. They're gonna bury him. 1339 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:44,160 Speaker 6: He'll never be in the Greatest of all Time conversation. 1340 01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:46,680 Speaker 6: Like they're going to bury him. You will never hear 1341 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 6: about it. The next person they're breeding up and pushing. 1342 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,440 Speaker 6: Now Yiannis the freak too, Like that's what's going on, 1343 01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,720 Speaker 6: you know what I mean? Like that it's written like 1344 01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:56,720 Speaker 6: it is literally written, and this is the path that 1345 01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,600 Speaker 6: these people are on, they just have to do their 1346 01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:00,160 Speaker 6: part in terms of on the court, you know what 1347 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,960 Speaker 6: I'm saying. So you can't obviously discredit anything that Lebron 1348 01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,600 Speaker 6: or anybody else that is in that situation is done 1349 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,520 Speaker 6: because they have to actually produce. But like you have 1350 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,000 Speaker 6: to have the machine behind you making sure that everybody 1351 01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,480 Speaker 6: is you're constantly on the forefront of people's minds. Because 1352 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,040 Speaker 6: you're not, you're forgotten about. And if you're a robot 1353 01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,240 Speaker 6: like Kawhi, is no matter if you have probably the 1354 01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,600 Speaker 6: single greatest feed in NBA history because three files, MVPs, 1355 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:26,080 Speaker 6: three championships with three different teams. I mean, if Lebron 1356 01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:27,560 Speaker 6: does it, they're solidifying him as the goat. 1357 01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:28,840 Speaker 1: Wow. 1358 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,360 Speaker 4: So interesting interesting take there from Spencer Din when you 1359 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:33,640 Speaker 4: I think he had a couple of points. The one 1360 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,200 Speaker 4: I wanted to address first. So is Kareem Abdul Jabab. 1361 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,920 Speaker 4: Some do consider him the greatest full time, but I 1362 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,200 Speaker 4: don't think it's because he was sponsored by Adidas or 1363 01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,720 Speaker 4: not not, because Night didn't really even exist back then 1364 01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 4: when he was at his peak. I think it's more 1365 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:48,400 Speaker 4: just the sands of time we move on, you know, 1366 01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,080 Speaker 4: Kareem was a great player, but the game has just 1367 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,160 Speaker 4: changed so much, a completely different eraor that he just 1368 01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,640 Speaker 4: you know, it's just it's natural that the younger generation 1369 01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,200 Speaker 4: come through don't know so much about a guy like 1370 01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,800 Speaker 4: Kareem and sort of see the skyhook and that's kind 1371 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:02,680 Speaker 4: of it. He doesn't light up the highlight reel with 1372 01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:06,000 Speaker 4: all these other plays. I think that's more where Kareem sits. 1373 01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:10,440 Speaker 4: I think most basketball historians have Kareem top five anyway 1374 01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,600 Speaker 4: still around that area. But things have changed and things 1375 01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:14,040 Speaker 4: have moved on. 1376 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:14,320 Speaker 2: Now. 1377 01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,280 Speaker 4: As far as his Kawhi Leonard taken and not being 1378 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,600 Speaker 4: with Nike, I think there is some validity to that. 1379 01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,080 Speaker 4: I think there's no question that Nike has such a 1380 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:27,000 Speaker 4: powerful PR campaign behind their athletes that it certainly projects 1381 01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:30,240 Speaker 4: them more so than a new balanced athlete will get 1382 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,760 Speaker 4: for sure, no matter no matter what Kawhi chiefs now, 1383 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,360 Speaker 4: he's assuming, of course, that the Clippers win the championship 1384 01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,000 Speaker 4: issue in Kauai gets MVP finals MPP. Now, Kawi could 1385 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,200 Speaker 4: win three four championships still more and I think that 1386 01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:45,200 Speaker 4: to me is still going to have heaviest sway overall 1387 01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,800 Speaker 4: than a shoe company. Yes, yes, I do so. I 1388 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:50,720 Speaker 4: think Kawhi is young enough that he could still win 1389 01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:54,240 Speaker 4: multiple championships, and if he wins five or six, then 1390 01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:57,160 Speaker 4: I think that's going to elevate him into that conversation 1391 01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:58,480 Speaker 4: no matter what shoes. 1392 01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,040 Speaker 1: But there are some truth to what Dinwoody is saying 1393 01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:05,320 Speaker 1: of not being with Nike the ultimate pr machine. Yes, 1394 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,560 Speaker 1: and I believe you at the forefront of everyone's conversation. 1395 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I agree with that, pop, But I think 1396 01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:14,360 Speaker 4: winning is what's ultimately going to go to put him 1397 01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:15,760 Speaker 4: in the conversation, right. 1398 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:17,800 Speaker 1: I mean the counter is Tim Duncan was with Nike, 1399 01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,440 Speaker 1: not even a counter. I guess this is actually almost 1400 01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,680 Speaker 1: goes to what Dinwoody is saying. He was with Nike, 1401 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:29,640 Speaker 1: but nobody puts him in the goat conversation because he's not. Sorry, 1402 01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,320 Speaker 1: I had nothing to do with the shoes. It's because 1403 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,880 Speaker 1: it's the guy and Tim Duncan is not marketable. Kawhi 1404 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,880 Speaker 1: Leonard is not really marketable. It's their personality. That's fine, 1405 01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,040 Speaker 1: you don't need to be, but that's the reason why 1406 01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,720 Speaker 1: not Maybe as much who you're wearing on your on 1407 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:45,360 Speaker 1: your feet, the shoe company you have, Maybe maybe Treya 1408 01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:46,120 Speaker 1: you're the soul man. 1409 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,480 Speaker 3: What do you think, Well, Michael Jordan's the greatest of 1410 01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,840 Speaker 3: all time because he won six championships and he had 1411 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,880 Speaker 3: six finals MVP. And the reason Nike is what they 1412 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:55,960 Speaker 3: are is because Michael Jordan is what he was. So 1413 01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,920 Speaker 3: to me, the the argument makes sense a little bit. 1414 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,960 Speaker 3: Nike has an incredible marketing machine, but the winning is 1415 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,360 Speaker 3: the biggest part of it, you know, the winning and 1416 01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:08,040 Speaker 3: the being charismatic. And I also think that Dinwoody hit 1417 01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,560 Speaker 3: on something very early in this that is getting overshadowed 1418 01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,360 Speaker 3: by the Nike Adidas talk is that Michael Jordan played 1419 01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:15,000 Speaker 3: eighty two games a season and tried to win every 1420 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,080 Speaker 3: single one of them. Kawhi Leonard, He's happy to give 1421 01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,000 Speaker 3: you sixty. You can't be the greatest of all time 1422 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,640 Speaker 3: if you're not playing full regular seasons. Those games actually 1423 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:22,560 Speaker 3: still matter. 1424 01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:23,280 Speaker 1: A little bit. 1425 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,320 Speaker 3: But I do think it's weird that we're talking about 1426 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,320 Speaker 3: where Lebron and Kawhi are going to fall on the 1427 01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,000 Speaker 3: greatest of all time list. If they pull off the 1428 01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:33,720 Speaker 3: exact same feet three championships with three finals MVPs, I'll 1429 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,880 Speaker 3: still take six over three or four fair tas. 1430 01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:37,960 Speaker 1: So what would you add to this. 1431 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:40,840 Speaker 5: Well, I think Spencer did what he said two things 1432 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:45,440 Speaker 5: at the exact same time. He said that Kawhi not 1433 01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,240 Speaker 5: being on Nike hurts, which is one hundred percent true, 1434 01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:52,040 Speaker 5: and I think it did hurt Kareem Abdul Jabbar back then. 1435 01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,200 Speaker 5: But at the same time, yeah, he doesn't have the pizzaz, 1436 01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:58,680 Speaker 5: which also hurts. So it's a bunch those two things 1437 01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:03,320 Speaker 5: at the same time. And Kareem Abdul Jabbar didn't have 1438 01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:07,440 Speaker 5: that demonstrative, in your face type of personality on the 1439 01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:11,840 Speaker 5: floor or the game, and so that's why people loved 1440 01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:15,320 Speaker 5: MJ because he had both. And yeah, Nike took him 1441 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,360 Speaker 5: to another level and he took Nike to another level. 1442 01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:22,160 Speaker 5: So yeah, it works in both. It goes hand in hand. 1443 01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,120 Speaker 5: And he needed a Kareem ned a little more pizaz. 1444 01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:29,200 Speaker 5: And I don't think it's recency biased that because MJ, 1445 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,320 Speaker 5: you know, hasn't been around for a long time. It's 1446 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:36,360 Speaker 5: just that all the accolades are sticking around. They're still 1447 01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,440 Speaker 5: they're still yees. Six for six is is very important 1448 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,800 Speaker 5: in people's eyes. People like when they're watching basketball, they 1449 01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:47,440 Speaker 5: don't want a team guy. Though, the guys who stand 1450 01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:51,080 Speaker 5: out are the guys who did had individual achievements and 1451 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:55,760 Speaker 5: are spunky and you know, are outspoken, and so those 1452 01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,640 Speaker 5: those ranked people higher than others. But yeah, I understand 1453 01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,720 Speaker 5: what's spent or Dinwitdi's there's the purists. That's the purest standpoint. 1454 01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,240 Speaker 5: It's the the KD sort of point of view that 1455 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,439 Speaker 5: looking at it. It's not about the talk and about 1456 01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,520 Speaker 5: the chatter and about the shoes. It's about what you 1457 01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,360 Speaker 5: did on the court. So Kareem. Yeah, the argument for 1458 01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,160 Speaker 5: the few people that like Kareem there's there's a few 1459 01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,320 Speaker 5: of them, but they're all the sort of the purists, 1460 01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:22,960 Speaker 5: and they're not the general fan that Spencer Dinwiddie is 1461 01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,720 Speaker 5: talking to. He's not going to influence He's not going 1462 01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:29,120 Speaker 5: to influence people by saying that. It's just not it's 1463 01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:31,160 Speaker 5: not going to be the case because of what people 1464 01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,880 Speaker 5: value when they watch basketball games. I don't think New 1465 01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,800 Speaker 5: Balance is going to quote unquote bury him. They're trying 1466 01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:38,520 Speaker 5: to make him a fun guy. 1467 01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:39,120 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1468 01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,240 Speaker 3: I would say we talk more about Kawhi Leonard since 1469 01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,800 Speaker 3: he's been with New Balance than when he was with 1470 01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:47,000 Speaker 3: Jordan Brand. You know, he gets more Jordan comparisons now 1471 01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,640 Speaker 3: than he did when he was actually wearing Jordan's shoes. 1472 01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:52,760 Speaker 3: And it's because he won another title and he's got 1473 01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,360 Speaker 3: a chance to win another title. And another thing, Spencer 1474 01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,880 Speaker 3: Dinwiddie is right about. Kreem Abdul Jabbar is probably the 1475 01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,320 Speaker 3: most underrated superstar in league history at this point. The 1476 01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,560 Speaker 3: guy's the all time leading scorer. Like Dinwoody was saying, 1477 01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:05,160 Speaker 3: he was the best high school player when he was 1478 01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,640 Speaker 3: in high school, he's maybe the greatest college player of 1479 01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:08,120 Speaker 3: all time. 1480 01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,640 Speaker 1: And now he's possibly in the top five in the NBA. 1481 01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:15,640 Speaker 1: He should be third at the lowest right. Yeah, yeah, 1482 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,120 Speaker 1: I agree with all that. I thought I saw Stephan 1483 01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:20,360 Speaker 1: Bondi tweeting two about all this. You know, Burd and 1484 01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,640 Speaker 1: Magic were converse guys and they were the faces of 1485 01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,200 Speaker 1: the league for a decade. They were marketable, They had 1486 01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:29,240 Speaker 1: personality and it wasn't Nike. Of course. Iverson and Shack 1487 01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:32,599 Speaker 1: were Rebot guys and they were like pushed like crazy again, 1488 01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,760 Speaker 1: super personal person personal guys and personality to them like 1489 01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:40,280 Speaker 1: to the next degree with Shaq for sure. So yeah, 1490 01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:42,880 Speaker 1: but I mean it's interesting. I just think it's an 1491 01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:46,479 Speaker 1: interesting argument. He's basically saying, co I will never be 1492 01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:49,880 Speaker 1: considered the goat no matter what he does because he's 1493 01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:54,720 Speaker 1: not with Nike. Yeah, that's wild, but maybe there's some 1494 01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:56,920 Speaker 1: crazy truth to it. But is he not with Nike 1495 01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:00,639 Speaker 1: because of his own personality and that They're like, well, 1496 01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:02,880 Speaker 1: we were not going to sell a million shoes. I'm 1497 01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:04,719 Speaker 1: sorry with just the way you are, and that's fine. 1498 01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:06,920 Speaker 1: You know, we were going to roll with the Kobe's 1499 01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:08,479 Speaker 1: and the Little Bronz and the mjs of the world, 1500 01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,160 Speaker 1: and that's it's prooved to work for Nike. It turns 1501 01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:13,360 Speaker 1: out they make some money off those guys. 1502 01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, but Steph Curry was also the biggest star in 1503 01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,120 Speaker 3: basketball wearing under armours until they put out a pair 1504 01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:21,040 Speaker 3: of trash shoes and he lost in the finals, and 1505 01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:24,040 Speaker 3: that's when things changed for under Armor. Right, you can 1506 01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:26,320 Speaker 3: be the most famous guy in the league wearing shoes 1507 01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:29,360 Speaker 3: that aren't Nikes. You just got to be winning championships. 1508 01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:31,160 Speaker 1: Is Spencer Dinwitty a Nike guy? 1509 01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,439 Speaker 3: No, He has his own pair of shoes that he designs. 1510 01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,719 Speaker 3: They're called like kyos or something like that. He changes 1511 01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:36,400 Speaker 3: them for every game. 1512 01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,720 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and I like that fact that guys like 1513 01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,400 Speaker 5: him or Kawhi are trying to do their own thing 1514 01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,600 Speaker 5: because it just breeds more competition for Nike, like they are. 1515 01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:49,000 Speaker 5: It's just it's an extension of what guys are trying 1516 01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,759 Speaker 5: to do by going to their own teams and starting 1517 01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:55,639 Speaker 5: their own things, starting their you know, the super team 1518 01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:57,599 Speaker 5: in Brooklyn. It's all an extension of the same thing, 1519 01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:59,680 Speaker 5: like I'm going to do more and so yeah, it 1520 01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:04,200 Speaker 5: just creates more competition. And it is true. Kawhi was 1521 01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:09,000 Speaker 5: buried in his previous basketball shoe life. Now that he 1522 01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:13,040 Speaker 5: is with New Balance, he's he's a mushroom. He's a 1523 01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,240 Speaker 5: real fun guy. Oh boy, I will say. 1524 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,080 Speaker 1: You know, we've watched so much basketball. We're seeing the 1525 01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,840 Speaker 1: same commercials over and over and over and over again. 1526 01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,240 Speaker 1: I know you guys agree with me. I don't mind 1527 01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,080 Speaker 1: the New Balance one I see every time with Kawhi. 1528 01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:27,760 Speaker 1: I actually oddly like that commercial, that little piano one. 1529 01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:31,160 Speaker 1: It's not bad. Yeah, I like it every time I 1530 01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:32,280 Speaker 1: see him. This is great. 1531 01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,559 Speaker 3: This is perfect for Kawhi and the new shoes he's 1532 01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:36,479 Speaker 3: got out that can think they're called the four Bounces 1533 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:38,120 Speaker 3: or something pretty good. 1534 01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:39,439 Speaker 1: They look pretty good. 1535 01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,320 Speaker 3: Quite an improvement to the Matt Bonner New Balance days, 1536 01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,320 Speaker 3: were they just throwing in on the side of a 1537 01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:45,920 Speaker 3: generic shoe and call it today. 1538 01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:49,200 Speaker 1: Oh dare you? Dare you mad? All right, so let's 1539 01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:52,200 Speaker 1: hear from you guys, both in the YouTube comments of course, 1540 01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,600 Speaker 1: and everybody that yeah, sorry, just. 1541 01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,720 Speaker 4: One thing too quickly. I just actually got a pair 1542 01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,640 Speaker 4: of Pole George's in the mail try and this is 1543 01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:04,679 Speaker 4: interesting because they're they're these bright orange shoes. So yeah, 1544 01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,479 Speaker 4: would you wear a pair of pool job, we'll put 1545 01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:08,519 Speaker 4: a photo op. I'll show you because they're the the 1546 01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,519 Speaker 4: PG Gatorade fools or something they're called. They sent them 1547 01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,600 Speaker 4: to me, and really that the Trey Kurvey specialist. I 1548 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:15,040 Speaker 4: tell you what. 1549 01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,680 Speaker 3: Well, Paul George loves fishing, so I'd love to wear 1550 01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,720 Speaker 3: them and fall in the lake. Well you're still on 1551 01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,840 Speaker 3: the Paul George Nike list, are you there? 1552 01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:25,479 Speaker 6: Yeah? 1553 01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:27,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, for you, and then you're betting against them. 1554 01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,280 Speaker 4: Come on, yeah, I'm just trying to help out you. 1555 01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,240 Speaker 4: I know you've got to spend six thousand dollars on 1556 01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:32,599 Speaker 4: your train. 1557 01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, let's wrap this up so I don't find 1558 01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:37,439 Speaker 1: out how much is it cost me to put a 1559 01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,840 Speaker 1: put a French drain inside? That's what we got today. 1560 01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:43,559 Speaker 5: Well, I'm going to try and get you some more 1561 01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,559 Speaker 5: money for your Frenchy drain here, skeet. So we got 1562 01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:50,479 Speaker 5: a triple header today. It starts with Orlando and Milwaukee 1563 01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:54,320 Speaker 5: on NBA TV, then two games on TNT. Okay see Houston, 1564 01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,800 Speaker 5: Portland and the Lakers. But let's jump back to that 1565 01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:01,439 Speaker 5: NBA TV game because Orlando and Milwaukee. I'm going to 1566 01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,519 Speaker 5: be watching the closest today because those latter two games 1567 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,320 Speaker 5: couple injuries. No Russell Westbrook for sure in the last 1568 01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,360 Speaker 5: in the second game, and no Damian Lillard for sure 1569 01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,720 Speaker 5: in that game against the Lakers. Obviously going to be 1570 01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,000 Speaker 5: a blowout I assume by the Lakers, but I want 1571 01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:18,080 Speaker 5: to see how Milwaukee closes this thing out. I assume 1572 01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:19,559 Speaker 5: they're going to close it out, but I think they 1573 01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,559 Speaker 5: need a really good game to take them into Round 1574 01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,840 Speaker 5: two against the Miami Heat because they have not been 1575 01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,200 Speaker 5: good and I don't think they want to play coming 1576 01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,200 Speaker 5: from behind against the Miami Heat. And if they're not 1577 01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:33,120 Speaker 5: playing well, Miami is going to jump on them immediately 1578 01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:36,080 Speaker 5: in that series because that's who Miami is. So I 1579 01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:38,720 Speaker 5: think they're going to be playing hard and it's going 1580 01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:41,479 Speaker 5: to be an extension of game four where Chris Middleton, 1581 01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,679 Speaker 5: and that brings us to our bet. Chris Middleton should 1582 01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,599 Speaker 5: be shooting his butt off in this game, so put 1583 01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:51,880 Speaker 5: up some numbers, make a bet. I desperately don't want 1584 01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:55,160 Speaker 5: to see you out of pocket six grand. So let's 1585 01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:57,599 Speaker 5: see how much Lee wants to give you for Chris Middleton. 1586 01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:59,679 Speaker 5: Let's see it. Let's throw throw another French. 1587 01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,920 Speaker 1: Ain't on ittly? What's the over? 1588 01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,439 Speaker 5: Drain your pockets? Middleton. 1589 01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:09,200 Speaker 4: I'll set the line today at twenty seven and a 1590 01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:10,400 Speaker 4: half at Middleton today? 1591 01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:13,280 Speaker 1: Oh what Hi, it's a little higher than I would 1592 01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,040 Speaker 1: have liked, but I'll get you down to a twenty 1593 01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:15,800 Speaker 1: five and a half. 1594 01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:18,240 Speaker 4: Twenty five and a half, all right, let's do twenty 1595 01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:19,240 Speaker 4: five here? Can fine? 1596 01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,120 Speaker 1: Alright? Twenty five and a half will put ten bucks 1597 01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:21,560 Speaker 1: back on it? 1598 01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:22,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1599 01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:22,479 Speaker 4: Why not? 1600 01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:23,080 Speaker 3: All right? 1601 01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:25,280 Speaker 1: I got the over. Middleton's going for twenty six or more. 1602 01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:28,840 Speaker 1: You say he's still stay relatively cold. Other than twenty 1603 01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:30,400 Speaker 1: five would be a good game, but okay, twenty five 1604 01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:34,280 Speaker 1: and under for you? Domb okay? Great? Virtually. 1605 01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,000 Speaker 4: I hope you wouldn't get mad, because I'm gonna feel 1606 01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:38,439 Speaker 4: bad if you If you're paying out with these. 1607 01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:42,200 Speaker 1: Drains and don't feel bad for you guys. And then again, 1608 01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:44,559 Speaker 1: you know, we'll get through this, you know, but hey, 1609 01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:47,599 Speaker 1: you got to take water very seriously, you know, like again, 1610 01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:52,600 Speaker 1: it's totally it's very powerful and we'll see what this 1611 01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:54,920 Speaker 1: is gonna put me back here? Oh boy, I can't wait. 1612 01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:57,799 Speaker 1: All right, Emails your questions and comments to No Dunks 1613 01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:00,360 Speaker 1: at the Athletic dot com. Grab yourself a sweet no 1614 01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,360 Speaker 1: Dunks T shirt over at No dunks dot com. Test 1615 01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:04,880 Speaker 1: are you rocking at No dunks there today? To you 1616 01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:07,600 Speaker 1: just have the same color those weird Yeah, it's just 1617 01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,920 Speaker 1: a blue. Yeah, wearing the same shirt. Person. 1618 01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:14,639 Speaker 5: I'm a Nike guy. I'm trying to Yeah, you're the goat. 1619 01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:17,360 Speaker 1: The goat to this podcast. Uh and if you listen 1620 01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:19,519 Speaker 1: to this one on iTunes, please leave your boys a 1621 01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:24,080 Speaker 1: five star rating and review. Tomorrow we're going to get 1622 01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:27,960 Speaker 1: to the Raptor Celtics preview and predictions and hopefully maybe 1623 01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:29,800 Speaker 1: the bucks and the heat as well, So we'll try 1624 01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:31,720 Speaker 1: and get that into tomorrow's podcast. Oh yeah, we got 1625 01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,160 Speaker 1: a beach step into maca podcast. Keep coming left and right, 1626 01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,760 Speaker 1: Clipper bros. You heard it here first. Have a great 1627 01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:37,680 Speaker 1: time turn up. 1628 01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:41,560 Speaker 5: Love you guys awesome, thanks for joining us. And I 1629 01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:43,360 Speaker 5: think I can speak for the guys when I say 1630 01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:47,280 Speaker 5: very proud of all the NBA players and coaches, doctors included, 1631 01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:51,960 Speaker 5: for continuing to speak out against these social injustices we 1632 01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:53,360 Speaker 5: see every day in our country. 1633 01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:55,680 Speaker 1: Brace the day, people, you. 1634 01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:56,600 Speaker 6: Could stay. 1635 01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:06,760 Speaker 1: Every day, and that you happy every minute. It's been 1636 01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:09,040 Speaker 1: so long that you're the one. 1637 01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:13,040 Speaker 6: Of waiting for its happened already. 1638 01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:15,839 Speaker 5: It's gonna be gravy.