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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm Norah Jones and today I'm playing along with

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Speaker 1: Chris Thiely.

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Speaker 2: I'm just playing alone with I'm just playing alone with.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Welcome to the show. I'm Norah and with me

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Speaker 1: as always is Oda. Hello, Sarah, Oda am today's show,

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Speaker 1: we have Chris Thely.

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Speaker 3: He is I think he's a genius. I was gonna

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Speaker 3: say he's a bit of a whiz. He is amazing.

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Speaker 1: He's an old friend and brilliant mandolin player, musician.

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Speaker 4: And he's been playing music since he was just a

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Speaker 4: wee wee child.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Five.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He came on the scene a long time ago with

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Speaker 1: his band Nickel Creek, which sort of took the bluegrass

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Speaker 1: scene by storm. But and he's had this incredible solo career.

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Speaker 1: He took over for Garrison Keeler's Prayer Companion. They renamed

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Speaker 1: it Live from Here, and it was a brilliant takeover

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Speaker 1: of a show and he really found his own way

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Speaker 1: with it. He has played with every brilliant musician I

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Speaker 1: can think of.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like he's known as just one of

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Speaker 4: the great greatest bluegrass players out there.

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Speaker 3: But he's also so versatile. He can play, he can

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Speaker 3: do so much more. Yeah, so much more. I don't

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Speaker 3: like genreing people. Really. I mean, I'm just gonna say it.

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Speaker 4: He's a genre buster.

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Speaker 3: It's not genre.

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Speaker 1: Him, sorry, but I feel like he really floats through everything.

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Speaker 4: He definitely does. He's a mold breaker. Yeah, he's incredible.

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Speaker 4: And he's also, like what.

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Speaker 3: A nice guy?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and a smooth speaker. I feel like he's just

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Speaker 4: very well spoken. Yeah, he told some great stories.

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Speaker 1: We had so much fun talking and I could have

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Speaker 1: just talked to him for hours and played music with him.

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Speaker 1: The fun thing about this show today is all these

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Speaker 1: shows are different. Everyone has their own level of suggested

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Speaker 1: songs from me, and then they throw songs back at

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Speaker 1: me and suggest other songs. I usually try to stick

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Speaker 1: to their catalog, but Chris suggested all these random covers

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Speaker 1: that we do. So this is a kind of a

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Speaker 1: fun one where we're just sort of jumping into songs

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Speaker 1: together for the first time and wild cards. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: also we do some songs from his catalog as well though,

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Speaker 1: And so we're going to drop in on the Chris

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Speaker 1: Theely episode. I hope you enjoy it. We're gonna start

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Speaker 1: this episode with a song from his solo album called

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Speaker 1: Lay songs. This is a Hazel Dickens song. Please enjoy

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Speaker 1: Chris Thiely.

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Speaker 6: I feel shodos ah upon me.

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Speaker 3: And the juice back and to me.

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Speaker 6: Before gold de sisters and brothers.

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Speaker 3: Won't she come and sing for me?

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Speaker 7: Sing we sang together in that plain little church with

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Speaker 7: the bench.

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Speaker 8: She all one?

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Speaker 5: How did to my heart?

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Speaker 6: How precious the moments we stood shake in hands.

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Speaker 5: And sing in a song that birding is heavy? My

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Speaker 5: way has gone, baby, I must travelorld that is long, and.

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Speaker 9: What one sold hard? My dear brother, did you call

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Speaker 9: and sing me on song?

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Speaker 7: Say those same sweet said together in that.

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Speaker 10: Plain little church where at the bend she's all boy.

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Speaker 11: Helping to my.

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Speaker 6: Heart? Bursious the moments we stood shaking hands and sing

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Speaker 12: My home beyond that dark river, yours sweet faces, no

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Speaker 12: more I will see.

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Speaker 5: Unto winy weather. There's no more sad parting.

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Speaker 13: Wants you come and sing for me? Sing those hymns we.

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Speaker 14: Sad together in that plain little church with the benches

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Speaker 14: all one. How dear to my heart, how precious the

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Speaker 14: moment we stood and.

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Speaker 5: Same song?

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Speaker 1: I love that song? That was so fun We didn't

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Speaker 1: so excited to sing with you and to do this.

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Speaker 1: But as soon as it was so naked, you know,

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Speaker 1: in the beginning, and as soon as time for me

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Speaker 3: I don't know how to say.

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Speaker 15: There's actually there's a weird amount of space when it's

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Speaker 15: A lot of space so that any choice you make

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I love how naked it is.

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Speaker 1: And this album is this song is from the album

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Speaker 1: you made in a church, right.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, in Hudson during during the pandemia the great what

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Speaker 1: So upstate you were in this church, yeah, with an engineer.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, just just just the engineer and me and we

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Speaker 15: I was, uh, you know, staying up late thinking about

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Speaker 15: my my church, which is playing shows, and you know,

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Speaker 15: playing music with me like what we just did that

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Speaker 15: feels feels really spiritual to me. Yeah, ual, And and

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Speaker 15: again like an opportunity to kind of sort of hold

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Speaker 15: your heart out and and say here's some stuff I'm feeling,

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Speaker 15: and how do you how are you feeling? How do

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Speaker 15: we feel about it together? Not getting to do that

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Speaker 15: for the first time since I started making music, you know,

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Speaker 15: it was crazy. It was felt crazy. And but I'm

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Speaker 15: assuming for you too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but as you know, with young kids, it was

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Speaker 5: Right right.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, And I feel like call and I probably got

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Speaker 15: to forge something that we might not have naturally gotten

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Speaker 15: to forge otherwise, like my life the way.

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Speaker 3: It normally is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're gone a lot, gone a lot. But

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Speaker 1: they were a good age. I think our kids to

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Speaker 1: be home with us, you know, as good as you

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Speaker 3: I don't know totally.

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Speaker 1: It was hard for everyone, but I feel like that

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Speaker 3: Have that experience with him. Probably. So back to the church.

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Speaker 1: Back to the church, I'm pretty fascinated by people who

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Speaker 1: grew up in church also, and there's many different types

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Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, there was, and and ours though that that

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Speaker 15: church was very much the Christian contemporary thing. It was

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Speaker 15: basically pop music with with Jesus lyrics.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so not not not what you came to do.

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Speaker 15: No, not what not not what we just did or

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Speaker 15: or and also not the thing that really lights me

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Speaker 15: up like these old you know when you when when

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Speaker 15: I was going to that Episcopal church at the top

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Speaker 15: of nob Hill in San Francisco, Like the music is good,

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Speaker 15: really really good, like some of the best that human

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Speaker 1: Set, you know that's so beautiful.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, with a with an incredible organ and a beautiful

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Speaker 15: you've got the hymnal.

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Speaker 3: That has the parts.

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Speaker 1: Yea, the hymnals with all the parts that used to

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Speaker 3: Some people grabbing.

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Speaker 15: And actually the first church when my parents so my

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Speaker 15: parents were actually not religious at all and then converted

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then it went.

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Speaker 15: Intense, and then they went, Yeah, so they were you

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Speaker 15: know the yeah, hell have no fury like the like

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Speaker 3: That's pretty intense.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, they were to go from zero to one hundred,

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Speaker 15: of Christianity. Wow, until and I think it actually played

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Speaker 15: a part in us leaving southern California and moving to

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Speaker 15: they also anticipated that I would move to Nashville when

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Speaker 15: I left the home. They didn't want the family nucleus.

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Speaker 1: To oh, so they moved there later when you were

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Speaker 1: already I was fourteen, You were.

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Speaker 3: Already okay, wait, you were already to then, right, playing

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Speaker 3: Okay, but this is so confusing to me.

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Speaker 1: but when did you start playing mandolin? I was five, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so that that really had nothing to do with church.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, the the that was just this pizza place in

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Speaker 15: And although bluegrass and pizza places that that's like pizza

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Speaker 3: It is. I guess it's more Irish bar.

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Speaker 15: Did you ever go to the uh the village had

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Speaker 15: that great bluegrass night forever the bagging in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, presided over by sheriff Uncle Bob. I never went,

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Speaker 1: So you started playing mandolin, from going to the bluegrass

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Speaker 15: Yeah, and then and yeah, and then mom and dad

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Speaker 15: got I think they just got really scared about having

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Speaker 3: I feel like.

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Speaker 1: That's rare for the past generations.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think there was so On dad's side,

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Speaker 3: there was. His dad was.

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Speaker 15: I wish everyone could meet my grand Barbara makes you

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Speaker 15: rest in peace. But then on my mom's side, I

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Speaker 15: And so I think they had us and got really

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Speaker 3: So why why does my religion condemn this man to hell?

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Speaker 3: Helped me grow so much.

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Speaker 15: And like, could I take that kind of friction now,

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Speaker 15: Do we just feel like anything that's not an agreement

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Speaker 3: God, nasally.

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Speaker 15: like seven thousand copies would have been the contract was

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Speaker 3: She knows what she wants.

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Speaker 15: She knows what she wants, she really she deeply does,

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Speaker 3: That point in my life, you know, was amazing.

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Speaker 15: And that was another source of those conversations, kind of

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Speaker 3: Man of constant sorrow. And if you had two you

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Speaker 1: Then you all said nicol Creek's amazing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what that's what you do. Let's do always judging,

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Speaker 1: Always judging. Okay, So I haven't thought about this song

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Speaker 3: Did you write it for the movies?

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Speaker 1: And you played on it together.

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Speaker 15: That's that's right, we got we. I in essence played

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Speaker 3: And John Brian produced it. John Brian produced it. The

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Speaker 1: And you know who else is on it is Lindsay

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Speaker 1: bucking He's the one doing this, He's doing Always Judges.

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Speaker 1: He's on the and I've never met I mean, I

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Speaker 3: I've never crossed cross on the five.

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Speaker 1: He's like fingerpicking on it and singing on it. I

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Speaker 3: So, oh my gosh, so here it.

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Speaker 16: Is always jretching, always judging, never loving, always dredging.

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Speaker 17: Always dredging, never looking.

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Speaker 16: Woe's wedding bed is swimming?

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Speaker 18: Ball ways judge the one you love to her she

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Speaker 2: You don't pretend that it's you're blood.

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Speaker 13: Thing you not die, never hugging, always judging.

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Speaker 2: When you say you don't need me, I do.

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Speaker 3: BALLI blood is when the cat is spinning, you say.

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Speaker 15: That it's.

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Speaker 5: Brow fay you now for dry.

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Speaker 17: As juching, always judging, never loving, always judging, love's judging,

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Speaker 17: never fucking.

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Speaker 5: Who is winning at the same.

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Speaker 16: Who's your check? Always judging, always judging, Neva laughing, always judging,

450
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 16: always judging, Neva hugging, always spinning, mad is spending.

451
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 3: Crap? I bet you who is my head is spinning?

452
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 19: Who is winning?

453
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 3: There we go? That was so fun. Oh my god.

454
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: I never thought I would ever play that song anyo,

455
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: did I nor did I that was fun.

456
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

457
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: And now we're in our forties and married with kids.

458
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 3: And now it really rings. It resonates, I get it.

459
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 3: It resonates, good guess.

460
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:05,239
Speaker 1: So so, okay, Live from Here, Holy crap. I mean I

461
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: grew up listening to Prairie Home Companion.

462
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 3: Did you you too? Yes? Oh? Absolutely, it was.

463
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: I mean I think a lot of any NPR kid

464
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: did pretty much. He was a huge part of my life.

465
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: My mom is a lifelong m PR radio on. I

466
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: think it's come from a lot of just the two

467
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: of us. Lose like company, you know, and so Prayer

468
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: Own Companion. We would listen to it, and then we

469
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: would listen to the rerun every weekend.

470
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 3: You know, the boat Like a lot of times.

471
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 15: What would happen is we'd get half of it during

472
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Speaker 15: a drive on Saturday and then the other half on Sunday,

473
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 15: like intentionally, Okay, what half did we not get?

474
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 3: Then we're going to listen to that. Yeah.

475
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: I have so many memories of people on it. So

476
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: you took over the show and then and then they

477
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: changed the name to Live from Here, and which I

478
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: think is a great name for it. Thank you, because

479
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: you moved around. You did this, You hosted the show

480
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: from different places. You took it on the road basically, Yeah.

481
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 15: And Garrison did. Garrison would always he would tour it too.

482
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 15: But of course it was very much centered in and

483
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 15: Saint Paul and I got I remember driving in. I

484
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 15: was in southern California, and I remember hearing you do

485
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 15: an episode.

486
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 3: I forget what record.

487
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 15: You were touring behind, but you He had you on

488
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 15: a sketch where you were a call waiting.

489
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, sketch.

490
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 15: It was good, and you were you were like a Yeah,

491
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 15: you were the voice of call waiting.

492
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 3: That was fun, singing, singing, you're on hold, You're on.

493
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: Hold, You're on I hadn't thought about that since then.

494
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: My brain doesn't remember things anymore.

495
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 3: That's crazy. I forgot about driving.

496
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 15: I mean, but I feel like when you're when you're driving,

497
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 15: that was what that show.

498
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 3: That was the most magical.

499
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 15: It's like if you're you're just you're going from point

500
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 15: A to point B and that show is on. It

501
00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 15: was just it was so transportive and talk about commune

502
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 15: a church like experience.

503
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 3: I feel like that show was church like.

504
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he talked about religion without being religious or

505
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: pitchy about it, you could still listen to life.

506
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the human aspect of religion.

507
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 15: It was beautiful and I feel like all the various routines,

508
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 15: like it's going to start with this song and eventually

509
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 15: you're going to get a guy noir sketch and eventually, yeah,

510
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 15: you're going to get the like Wobgone story.

511
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's like we'll get you.

512
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 15: And Rich Rich Dwarski and the Guys All Star Shoe

513
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 15: Band like doing that. The crazy sort of jaloppy sound

514
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 15: of that band was always so infectious. So yeah, when

515
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 15: he he asked me to do it, which came out

516
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 15: of the clear blue sph.

517
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Speaker 1: I didn't realize it came from him. He asked you

518
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: to take over.

519
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I wanted to retire.

520
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 15: Yeah, he was like, I think, I think I'm bringing

521
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 15: it in for landing and was wondering if you'd be

522
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 15: interested in hosting.

523
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 3: It, which I mean I hadn't been groomed for it. Yeah.

524
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 15: I'd even felt like at times that I would do

525
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 15: something on the show when I would be on a

526
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 15: fair frequently, but okay.

527
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: Like the perfect guess.

528
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 15: I loved you know, I loved sitting in with people

529
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 15: and and he would sometimes give me a I remember

530
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 15: he gave me a slot one time for a for

531
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 15: a song, and I did. I did a solo version

532
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 15: of the White Stripe song that Leaves in the Dirty Ground,

533
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,719
Speaker 15: which had some yodling and and it got it got

534
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 15: a big reaction.

535
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 3: Was at town hall.

536
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 15: It got a big reaction, and afterwards he was like,

537
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 15: don't do that again.

538
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: I couldn't tell if he was joking or oh, you couldn't.

539
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 15: I couldn't tell. I don't think he was joking though.

540
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 15: I think it was like that that. I think maybe

541
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 15: that broke the spell of the show for him. Crazy,

542
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 15: you know that it was like that wasn't in the

543
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 15: spirit of things wow, Which was a big lesson to learn,

544
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 15: like to not the show has a vibe and just

545
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 15: any any anything that you're doing has a vibe and

546
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 15: you can actually so don't always go for the jugular, yeah,

547
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 15: you know, don't always like.

548
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: Don't force something into a the wrong Sorry I had

549
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: to say, I don't know, but like, yeah, yeah.

550
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 3: Don't force the wrong thing. Yeah, sometimes like this seem

551
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 3: wrong to me. No, you know, I did, I think

552
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 3: it was. I think it was a.

553
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 15: Good I think it was a nice moment, but I

554
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 15: also think his reaction to it was a really amazing

555
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 15: lesson to learn about the like the power of radically

556
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 15: strong taste that like if he's he's presiding over this

557
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 15: world and you know he's he's he's micro creating, he's

558
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 15: like he's he has this world and the world has rules,

559
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 15: like the world there's gravity, and there's oxygen and there's

560
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 15: you know what I mean. Yeah, And so I always

561
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 15: thought about that moment when I when I when he

562
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 15: asked me to take it, to take the show of

563
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 15: like how how can I? Obviously I can't continue facilitating

564
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 15: same world. I have to, like you have to make

565
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 15: your I have to make a new world for it.

566
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 15: But also I have to like transition it slowly. So

567
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 15: then all of us who who count on that world weekend,

568
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 15: week out, we still have some of the stuff. So

569
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Speaker 15: it was it was interesting. It was a really amazing

570
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 15: learning experience, that whole show. And then it got COVID canceled.

571
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 3: I know, so how long did you do it with

572
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 3: the year where he was kind.

573
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: Of was he still involved when he passed it on? Yes,

574
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: so he still helped, like.

575
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 15: He helped, Yeah, he helped with the first especially the

576
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 15: first season. He and I were in pretty close touch

577
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 15: about about it. I don't think he was listening though.

578
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 15: I don't think he would ever listen to the show Interesting.

579
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 15: He never listened to it when he did it either. Okay,

580
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 15: he would never listen to Interesting that he.

581
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: Wouldn't listen after he handed it over. Probably it would

582
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: have been too hard for him to not try to, Like.

583
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 15: That's what he said. He said, there's no way. That's

584
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 15: just not going to be helpful for either of us.

585
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, me listening is that's really funny.

586
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 15: But I I but he was so generous with with

587
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 15: you know, help kind of anytime I had a question

588
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 15: about any aspect of it or you know, wondering about

589
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 15: this seems.

590
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 3: Like a you know, you don't need to do that thing.

591
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 3: I would do that. Here's why I would do it.

592
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 3: You don't need to do that. Yeah, those kind of

593
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 3: conversation the news from like oh god, yeah that wasn't Yeah,

594
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 3: that was never going to happen.

595
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 15: But but like, you know, the sketches, we started doing

596
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 15: different stuff with the sketches, and then and and the

597
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 15: whole thing became. He really encouraged me to make it

598
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 15: far more music.

599
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 3: That's great, but that's perfect, which it was.

600
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 15: I mean he was always kind of threatening to make

601
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 15: it more music oriented himself, like that's what he loved

602
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 15: to do.

603
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: Well, I mean he's saying on it, but it wasn't ever.

604
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: I liked his voice. Actually it sounds like home. Yeah,

605
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: it was like sounds like I mean his singing voice

606
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: as well as a speaking voice. But you just have

607
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: so many more options with what you know and what

608
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: you can do and how you can adapt to other musicians.

609
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 15: His one condition, it was like you, I want you

610
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 15: to host the show on one condition, which is that

611
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 15: you keep singing.

612
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 3: Duets on the show.

613
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: But that's that's like the best part of it. That's

614
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 1: and that's like your bread and butter. When I asked

615
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: you about what songs you wanted to do for this,

616
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: you kept throwing out songs that neither of us have

617
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: ever done.

618
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 3: And that's what I'm.

619
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Speaker 1: It's so exciting, you know, it's so fun to like

620
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: interact with people that way. I saw you do a

621
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: thing with tank from a tank in the Bengas. Oh god,

622
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: she whoa well, she's insanely amazing poetry.

623
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, her poetry is beautiful.

624
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 15: Oh my god, I mean, I love them. I knew

625
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 15: about the music, but I didn't know about her poets.

626
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: I know me neither till later, but her brain just

627
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: goes so many different places.

628
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 15: I didn't know about her poetry until, like Thomas Bartlett

629
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 15: played me her doing poetry to you play.

630
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were improvising and it was fun. She that

631
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: was fun when we did the recordings with Thomas. Yeah,

632
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 1: Thomas loved her. Oh god, she's amazing.

633
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 3: She's amazing. Yeah.

634
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: But did you feel like were there any limitations on

635
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: who could be on the show musically or was it

636
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 1: pretty open? Did it gear more towards acoustic.

637
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 15: Early early on, I was really careful about trying to

638
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 15: kind of lead basically just trying to drop breadcrumbs the

639
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 15: whole way so that people could follow. I feel like

640
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 15: that's really important as as a host of something that's

641
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 15: different than than being an artist. I feel like as

642
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 15: an artist, part of our job is to just surprise people,

643
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 15: you know, to kind of.

644
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: I don't know if they think that, though, I think

645
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: that's more fun for us. Sometimes they like it, and

646
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: sometimes they're like, I don't know if I like that.

647
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 15: Right, you know, But I also feel like, well, I

648
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 15: mean that is that's the great balancing act that we're

649
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 15: all playing. But but I ultimately, you know how they

650
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 15: they say you have to be true to your audience

651
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 15: of one. It's true, right, you know, And if if

652
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 15: I crave, I crave being sort of uncomfortable in the art,

653
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 15: like I want I want, I want to be challenged

654
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 15: by a by a piece of art. And what I

655
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 15: realized as the host of that show is that that

656
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 15: instinct was only gonna serve me to a certain extent,

657
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 15: and that I needed to I needed to make sure

658
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 15: that people felt safe so that they could enjoy when

659
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 15: they were challenged. And if I if I it was

660
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 15: basically the opposite of being true to your audience of one.

661
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 15: Although although I found within myself someone well and I

662
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 15: thought of my relationship with the show and how it

663
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 15: was a source of comfort and like a like a

664
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 15: true north or like calibrating my week. You know, It's

665
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 15: like here's Garrison and here's that song that the you

666
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 15: know here that will piano from Downey Avenue. It's like

667
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 15: it's not that I'm a massive fan of that song,

668
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 15: but that song put me in.

669
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Speaker 3: A spot, you know.

670
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would, it becomes a nostalgic, it's a touchstone

671
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: for people.

672
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,479
Speaker 15: And so then when I would hear, I was trying

673
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 15: to imagine, what are the things that I can do

674
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 15: to put people in a place where they'll where they'll

675
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 15: relish those tense moments of being challenged by a piece

676
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 15: of music or by an aesthetic that they're not familiar with.

677
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 15: So if they're kind of familiar with a routsy sort

678
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 15: of Americana aesthetic, then you know, the show absolutely was.

679
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 15: In the first season of me hosting was very grounded

680
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 15: in that and with occasional little adventures. But by the

681
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 15: last season, you know, Got All the Way to Common

682
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 15: was on show, and I mean, god, Tank Tank, just

683
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 15: like did.

684
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 3: She have a whole band on the show? Yes, they're incredible.

685
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 15: Oh my god, And it was was amazing. They were

686
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 15: on when we had the show in Durham.

687
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 3: North Carolina, not New Orleans.

688
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 15: No, I wish that New Orleans show was made. That

689
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 15: was we did the Preservation Hall Jazz Band, so fun

690
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 15: and sylvan Es was on that same show, so it

691
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 15: was like the Press Hall Jazz Band was like very

692
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 15: much in the wheelhouse for our audience. And then Silvan

693
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 15: ESSO was going to be adventurous for them, you know, yeah,

694
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 15: kind of E dmy It's like laptop and and Amlia,

695
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 15: you know, amazing and and so that that was something

696
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 15: I was always trying to keep in mind.

697
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 3: So if I was going to do, stretch them in

698
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 3: one spot, have.

699
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: A something familiar.

700
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 15: Yeah, so here's we're gonna have an adventure over here

701
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 15: and we're gonna have like we're gonna have a spa over.

702
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: Here, part party spa over here exactly. Well, you picked

703
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: a song for us to try, which I'm excited about

704
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 1: and is different for me, and I feel like it's

705
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: going to be a challenge.

706
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 3: And even though it's a simple song, which which are

707
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 3: you talking about?

708
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the radio Have you done it before?

709
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 3: Okay? No? I actually, oh god, talking about the radio show.

710
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:17,959
Speaker 15: Though I did a I played it, not sag it

711
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 15: behind a piece of poetry.

712
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: Once the music part, because it's so haunting.

713
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 15: I feel like that world, the whole idea of creating

714
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 15: a world, I feel like they're so they're so.

715
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 3: Good at that.

716
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: I remember that when I was listening. I mean I

717
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: remember this from when it came out. I knew the song,

718
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: but when I was listening to it for this. I thought, oh, yeah,

719
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: it's it's got a lot of weird chords.

720
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 3: What are those weird chords?

721
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, oh, it literally has two notes

722
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: that repeat and it's but it creates weird chords, but

723
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 1: not really, but it's the illusion of it's so beautiful

724
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 1: and it's so visual, right, and it's circular, and it's

725
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: yeah that he takes it and then yeah, and that's.

726
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 3: All he's doing.

727
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 15: And then at the very end he brings this Yeah,

728
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 15: but that's it. Those are that's that's the material. And

729
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 15: he spins quite a web with with very few notes.

730
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 3: I know, shall we try it? You're gonna sing it right? Sure?

731
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.

732
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 17: When Ama the pearly gates, this will be my verty

733
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 17: when Memphis Pleas is just beneath and he's reaching up

734
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 17: to God.

735
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 14: This is one for the God all days and I

736
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 14: have it all here in red.

737
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 5: Blue green and red bloom green. You are my center

738
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 5: where I spin away.

739
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 9: Out of control on vidy tape boom videtage bomb B.

740
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 7: Saying no.

741
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 20: Psis my one, saying goodbye, Kazack.

742
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 8: Can do.

743
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 5: Face two face talking.

744
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 17: To you before no matter what, and now.

745
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 5: You shouldn't be a fake.

746
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 6: Because I know two A day has spent the most perfect.

747
00:46:11,760 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 3: Day at ever. Sime woh song. That song is crazy.

748
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: When you told when you texted me like I think

749
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: I hear a rhythmic thing I can do?

750
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I know you do, and boy

751
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 3: you did.

752
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 15: That's one of the craziest moments of sound, Like yeah,

753
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 15: that when they start messing with that in that track,

754
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 15: the kind of like washing machine, yeah thing, what even is?

755
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 3: What are they doing?

756
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: But it's weird, but it's rhythmic. It makes sense within.

757
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 3: I loved that.

758
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 15: I was trying to get on that kind of at

759
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 15: that pulse.

760
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 3: I always hear in my head.

761
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 15: Do you know Matt Chamberlain, the great Oh yeah, great

762
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,959
Speaker 15: La based drummer. I mean I used to be Seattle based,

763
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 15: I guess, but now he's in l A. I always have.

764
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 3: Like a w W Chamberlain, like what, yeah, what would

765
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 3: Matt play? And he's got that? Yeah, I love that.

766
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, I didn't get the rhythm of the right.

767
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 21: Oh oh, and then there's them.

768
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it just kind of falls off. Oh god, yeah,

769
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 3: did you hear he did?

770
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 15: He did a I always have to I always hesitant

771
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 15: to suggest that we do a Radiohead song together because

772
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 15: I just always it's like a covering tick of mine.

773
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, just I always.

774
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 15: That's one of the things I think about their world

775
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 15: building that is so appealing to me is if they

776
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 15: feel like video games to me, like where you can

777
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 15: just but kind of open ended video games where you've

778
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 15: got a character and you just get to walk around

779
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:07,479
Speaker 15: in these songs And.

780
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: What a way to describe it, look under That's kind

781
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: of incredible.

782
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 15: So I feel like when I when I've read that song,

783
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 15: it feels like that to me, where I'm just like

784
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 15: I'm in a video game and I get to I

785
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 15: get to like look under a rock and see what's there.

786
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: You get to choose your own world within their world.

787
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 15: Yeah, they don't spell things out all the way almost ever.

788
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 3: They always leave.

789
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 15: I feel like they always smear some stuff so that

790
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 15: you can finish it.

791
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like that's a crazy way to think of it.

792
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 3: And like they're not that there's this feels unfinished to me,

793
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 3: but just that.

794
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: There's nothing unfinished about it, but it's it's it's like

795
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: an abstract painting where you can kind of fill in.

796
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 15: The cracks, Yes, where your participation is actually necessary. It's

797
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 15: not just desired, it's like necessary to finish the art.

798
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,240
Speaker 3: Every but he will hear it differently.

799
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 15: Yeah, and I feel like that's and I think he

800
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 15: does that lyrically as well.

801
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: Oh these lyrics are deep, right, they're really heavy.

802
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm so into it. They're beautiful.

803
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: Also, Mephistopheles must be a Greek Yeah, Gospheles.

804
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 3: Isn't that one name for the devil?

805
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,919
Speaker 1: Well, you know, all I could think about was mister

806
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: Mustopheles from Cats, So I don't I don't know. I

807
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 1: guess that shows what I learned growing up.

808
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 15: But also also the scanchion that he's sound. That you

809
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 15: found a way to sing Mephistopheles. Yes, it's dual natural.

810
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: Well that's why I didn't want to sing it because

811
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: I was like, how am I going to sing Mephistopheles?

812
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: Because I want Chris to say it? But the lyrics

813
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: are beautiful. You did it well just beneath. Yeah, it's

814
00:50:56,160 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: a killer song. Oh my god, have you ever met

815
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: any of them?

816
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 15: I met the drummer, Oh cool, yes, Phil, he's the

817
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 15: sweetest dude. I met him at at an award show

818
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 15: in London. He was at the same table that I

819
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 15: was sitting at. Yeah, and uh, that's fun.

820
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 3: Oh and I got to I mean I ged him

821
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 3: so hard, him so hard. Yeah. What is that is?

822
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 15: When you you go up to someone that that who's

823
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 15: work you love and I love your work? Yeah?

824
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 3: But what does it come from the word germ?

825
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, you get your germs on him?

826
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 3: Maybe so I don't know. I knew what you meant,

827
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 3: but I just didn't know where it came from. I

828
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 3: don't you know what. I don't even know where I

829
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 3: heard that the first time? Am I making a word?

830
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 8: No?

831
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 15: No, I'm sure it's a thing I just to someone

832
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 15: and it was and I did it and he was

833
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 15: very gracious. I was talking about specific grooves. Do you

834
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 15: remember that one time when you're I was very I

835
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 15: was very Chris Farley about it.

836
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,919
Speaker 3: Oh, I love that. I remember that one song where

837
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 3: you play this awesome that.

838
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: The Chris Farley's guess is the best thing in the

839
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 1: world ever with Paul McCartney.

840
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 3: Is it true? What was it that that the Love

841
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 3: You Magazine to the Love You Take? Is that true?

842
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:44,919
Speaker 3: Is that true? Is that true? Can we do two more?

843
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 3: Would that be too much to do it.

844
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: Okay, oh wait, we've got yeah, we gotta do that

845
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: wet about them. I want to do the Tom Paxton

846
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: song because it's so special. And so you have a

847
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: new Punch Brother Brothers record where you did the whole record,

848
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: the whole Tony Ice record.

849
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Tony Rice. Who tell me about him?

850
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 15: So Tony, it's so it's so interesting the I mean, what, like,

851
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,720
Speaker 15: what a legend he is in the bluegrass community and

852
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 15: kind of a relative unknown outside of it, although there's

853
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 15: there's certainly, you know, pockets of musicians who who you know,

854
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 15: are very influenced by him outside of the bluegrass community,

855
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 15: but in you know, within the bluegrass community.

856
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 3: He's he's on Mount Rush, you know, and was one

857
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 3: of the first people to.

858
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 15: You know, the first thing people think of when they

859
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 15: think about Tony Rice, if they think about Tony Rice,

860
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 15: is is his guitar playing. He really changed the game

861
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 15: in terms of flat pick guitar and and non bluegrass

862
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 15: flat pick acoustic guitar players would almost certainly have studied

863
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 15: up on what Tony did with with an acoustic guitar

864
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 15: and a flat pick.

865
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Oh I'm done. What is the flat pick.

866
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 15: So a flat pick as opposed to like playing guitar

867
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 15: with your fingers. So fingerpicks just picks that mold to

868
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 15: your fingers, you know, like like like what a banjo

869
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 15: player uses or you know certain guitar players, whereas a

870
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 15: flat pick is just an actual it's a flat pick.

871
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 15: But he's playing and you're going back and forth. So

872
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 15: I flat picked the mandolin as opposed to like fingerpicking.

873
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, where you can do all at once. It's kind

874
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 3: of yes, yes, okay, So he was a flat He.

875
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 15: Was a flat picker and kind of yeah, a total

876
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 15: master of the flat pick guitar and solo. He he

877
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 15: he was one of the early players to really make

878
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 15: guitar a soloing instrument in a bluegrass band. Previous to him,

879
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:47,439
Speaker 15: it was it was not the rhythm, the support, Yeah,

880
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 15: predominantly support. And I wish Chris Elders from Punch Brothers

881
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 15: were here to give you the real, the real straight

882
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 15: Yeah that's right and now, but it's so him and

883
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 15: this guy Clarence White and Doc Watson was another another earlier,

884
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 15: but people think about that part of his Doc Watson,

885
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 15: but he he was also a tremendous singer. Uh, and

886
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 15: song curator is I. I feel like one of the

887
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 15: things that goes a little under heralded about him is

888
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 15: his ability to find a song's best best self, like

889
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 15: find the best songs and then find that song's best self. Yeah,

890
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 15: just that that whatever he would cover, to my ear,

891
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 15: became the definitive version of that of that song. And

892
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 15: he would get in there and and fundamentally change these things.

893
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 15: So he wasn't just here's my thing, here's me doing

894
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 15: this song. It was like here's here's this song, and they.

895
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 3: Became the best ever. Here's yeah, here's.

896
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 15: Just he would bounce himself or he would Yeah, he

897
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 15: would bounce his ears off of these songs and they

898
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 15: would be forever changed. So listening to Church Street Blues,

899
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 15: that's what the record is called Church Reet Blues. That

900
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 15: that's been lasting. Yeah, the Tony Rice record and Punch

901
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 15: Brothers decided to cover the whole record. There was like

902
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 15: a in the pandemic. We wanted to do something together.

903
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: So you take it together. Okay, so you just decided

904
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: to cover this whole record, to be creative and.

905
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:28,919
Speaker 15: Cover the whole record and then try and emulate rather

906
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 15: than again do the thing that Tony Rice would have

907
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 15: never done, which is like, okay, well yeah, we'll just

908
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 15: do a band version of Church Street Blues.

909
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: It's completely different from the Tony right.

910
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 15: We would we we wanted to, you know, be like Tony, like,

911
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 15: let's let's bounce ourselves off of his record and see

912
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 15: what happens, see what results, like.

913
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 3: Our our inner ears.

914
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 15: We've been listening, all five of us have been listening

915
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 15: to this record since we were little.

916
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 3: It's made such an impact on the musicians that we are.

917
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 3: Did you guys know Tony? Yeah him.

918
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 15: I knew him really pretty pretty well. Critter new Critter

919
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 15: new him the best.

920
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 3: Probably.

921
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 15: He actually apprenticed himself to Tony for spent spent I

922
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 15: think a week or two at Tony's place. But I

923
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 15: would run into him at these festivals that we were

924
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 15: talking about, and he he really he was. He was

925
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 15: always a fairly he was a private fellow, kind of

926
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 15: kind of reclusive, but really generous with with musicians that

927
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 15: that he thought were promising. And he kind of took

928
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 15: me under his wing.

929
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: Helay, he really loved to play and.

930
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 15: He yeah, so he would he would have me sit

931
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 15: in with him sometimes and you were you were just bulletproof,

932
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 15: when you're like foundations of the Earth, kind of the

933
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 15: feeling like you could build, you could build a city.

934
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 3: On top of his rhythm guitar playing you know.

935
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 15: So, so yeah, so this this, well, whatever we're about

936
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 15: to do, I guess it's sort of basically.

937
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 3: Exactly bounced off of.

938
00:57:55,360 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 15: The Punch Brothers reimagining of Tony's reimagining of Tom Paxton's

939
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 15: lasting on my mind.

940
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 6: It's a lesson too late for learning.

941
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 5: Made of sand, made of sand, in the way of

942
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 5: a night.

943
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 3: My soul is turning.

944
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 5: In your hands, in your hand.

945
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 6: You've got reasons a plany.

946
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 3: For going.

947
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 10: This sign no, this sigh, no.

948
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 6: For the weeds have been staidly going. Please don't go,

949
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 6: Please don't go?

950
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 5: Are you going in no way?

951
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 22: With no word of farewell? Will there be not a

952
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 22: chase left behind?

953
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 23: I could have loved you better. I didn't mean to

954
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 23: be unkind. You know that was the last thing on

955
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 23: my mind.

956
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 6: As we walk along, My thoughts a tumbling.

957
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 3: Round and round.

958
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 5: Round down round.

959
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 6: Underneath our feet, subways rumbling underground, under ground.

960
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 7: Are we gone with away?

961
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 3: With no word of farawell?

962
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 22: Will there be not a chase left behind? I?

963
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 5: Could have loved you better.

964
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 3: I didn't mean to be unkind.

965
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 6: You knew that was the last thing on my mind.

966
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 6: As I lie in my bed in the morning.

967
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 10: Without you, without you, every song in my head dies

968
01:01:55,360 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 10: apport it without you, without you, without you, without you,

969
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 10: with that you, I love it.

970
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,919
Speaker 3: That was all. I love it. That was in seven.

971
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 1: I have a hard time with seven, but I also

972
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: love it.

973
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 15: It's it's it's weird to me that at this point

974
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 15: five feels almost like a three or four level of

975
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 15: naturalness to me, like there's something you.

976
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 3: Do a lot of it. I do a lot of five.

977
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 3: Seven is funny, it's got.

978
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: It's got a rhythm.

979
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 3: Though, Oh, I feel like I love this so hard.

980
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 15: When you when you just I think, come to terms

981
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 15: with not not like letting it go as a normal thing.

982
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 1: Well, when you're not counting and it falls in naturally,

983
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 1: it's yes, I wasn't counting, but I still had a

984
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: hard time falling him. But I still maintain that you

985
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: should play with my sister and Nushka.

986
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 3: We need to do something together because she.

987
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: I mean, she plays in seven a lot's star player.

988
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 1: But also I just feel like you guys would have

989
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 1: a nice meeting of the musical time signatures.

990
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 3: I would love. But also, yeah, just melody play. Yeah,

991
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 3: you guys.

992
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: Would play well together. I think also mandolin and sitar makes.

993
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 3: A lot of sense, right, I never played with.

994
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 1: A star player both a high timber, but I think

995
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: would gel and I think you would both.

996
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 3: You know, make it gel.

997
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 15: I think the the plucked aspect of it makes it, yeah,

998
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 15: makes it like a kind.

999
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 3: Of a natural. But do you bend notes? You barely don't.

1000
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 3: I don't know, because you go out of tune. Exactly.

1001
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 15: Mandolin tension, mandeline string tension is so high that the

1002
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 15: force that requires to actually get a bend.

1003
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you're out. It stayed stayed well, So

1004
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: she'll take care of the Bendy's.

1005
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:20,919
Speaker 3: I told you to put the Bendy's in there.

1006
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 15: I think you guys should play it against one of

1007
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 15: my favorite TENACIOUSD moments.

1008
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 3: Oh the Bendy's. But he says, he says. I think

1009
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 3: he is arguing with Kyle.

1010
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 15: Kyle. Yes, he's exactly should have done a song, my god,

1011
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 15: which one is your favorite?

1012
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 3: I just know, finish your story?

1013
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 5: What does he do?

1014
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 15: Oh no, no, it's just I think they're writing a

1015
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 15: song quote unquote together, but basically KG is doing it

1016
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 15: and then and then Jack takes credit for it because

1017
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 15: he told him to put the Bendy's.

1018
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 3: I told you to put the bend You to put

1019
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 3: the Bendy's in there.

1020
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 1: I played greatest. I played tribute for my kids the

1021
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 1: other day because we just watched School of Rock, which

1022
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: holds up by the way I saw it to I

1023
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: almost got emotional, probably because I haven't been to a

1024
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 1: live show since the pandemic, but when they did the

1025
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 1: live show, the Battle of the Bands and the audience,

1026
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: I got emotional.

1027
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 3: It's a good movie. It's a great movie. Oh my god.

1028
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 3: I hadn't seen it since it came out.

1029
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 1: I was obsessed with Jack Black during that whole era

1030
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 1: of tenaciousity.

1031
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 3: I mean, it was the best. He is amazing.

1032
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 1: He's so good in that movie. He's so earnest. He

1033
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: reminds me of like when Will Ferrell and Elf. The

1034
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 1: earnestness of the character. It's just it's just so earnest,

1035
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: and he's just got the funniest It's just so funny.

1036
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 3: That's why it works, right.

1037
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 15: Yeah, he believes it's a large part of him that

1038
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 15: actually just wants this to be real and like a

1039
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 15: thing I've never met. I've never I met him very

1040
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 15: briefly backstage at Largo once Nicol Creek did like a

1041
01:05:56,320 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 15: little thing at this is early on and Sean I

1042
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 15: think I left to go do something, but Sean was

1043
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 15: still there and Jack Jack was back there and he's like, man.

1044
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 3: Good show, good show.

1045
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 15: I until you're working on your arms, your harms, And

1046
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 15: Sean was like, all right, sorry, come again.

1047
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 3: Your harms. Man harmony vocals. That's so funny. He's amazing.

1048
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: Just anyway, that dude, Jack Black, Please, if you're listening,

1049
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: let's start a band.

1050
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 3: He should do the podcast.

1051
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 1: That would be fun. That would be my dream come true.

1052
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 1: You're all my dream come true. Every guest is a

1053
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 1: dream come true. Ah, thank you for doing this. Can

1054
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: we do our last song? Which he's another one. You

1055
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 1: suggested that you've never played this song. No, I have

1056
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 1: never played this song.

1057
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 3: Just yeah, long time listener, first time call her.

1058
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I have heard the song. When

1059
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: you suggested it, I played it. I was like, oh,

1060
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 1: I think I know that song, but I didn't really

1061
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 1: know it.

1062
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 15: It Also, even even what I was pretty sure I

1063
01:06:56,680 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 15: have it has that era about it as a song

1064
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 15: that has always existed somehow. Like sometimes sometimes people it's

1065
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 15: almost like when you when you're writing a song, you're

1066
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 15: kind of excavating songs.

1067
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 3: It's not necessarily like you're you don't. I don't know

1068
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 3: if you ever feel that way sometimes.

1069
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 15: I guess that's the way I like to feel, is

1070
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 15: when I feel like I found something as opposed to.

1071
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 3: Like I wrote it. You know, that's the best song.

1072
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 15: But this, yeah, this, this feels to me like one

1073
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 15: of those songs. It was in the earth and Judy

1074
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 15: Still found it.

1075
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: I didn't know much about Judy Still, and so I

1076
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 1: was googling, and it just I almost don't want to

1077
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: say too much before we play the song.

1078
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's just.

1079
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 15: I might start crying, right, Yeah, play the song and

1080
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 15: she she's a pretty magical person.

1081
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, her story is very intense. Judy Still, it's j

1082
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: U d ee. Yeah, in case anyone listening has not.

1083
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 3: Heard her, and then Still like windowsill.

1084
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so do you want to sing this? Do you

1085
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: want me to sing? What are we doing?

1086
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 3: Let's try with you, Unison. It's double check, right, it's

1087
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 3: double check.

1088
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 1: Her Her vocals always sound kind of like weird and

1089
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 1: digital because she's doubled all of her volts.

1090
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 15: Yeah, even sometimes I wonder if she tripled them. Yeah,

1091
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,879
Speaker 15: sometimes it gets it's really interesting.

1092
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if we can. Can we pull that?

1093
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 3: That would be hard right without?

1094
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 15: I mean we could, Why don't we get to that point?

1095
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,799
Speaker 15: I'm like, so, I would love to hear you sing.

1096
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 3: It if you're a practicing it. In case, I would

1097
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 3: love to hear you sing it. And then I'll but

1098
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 3: I'll get in there. I'll get in there.

1099
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 1: Love rising from the maids.

1100
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 5: Promise made.

1101
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 8: This sound.

1102
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 24: Only this, only wrath touching me, Lie awain sound, sweet

1103
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 24: communion of the kids.

1104
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:28,839
Speaker 5: Side, safety through the grave.

1105
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 24: Enter reached me with a ray, silently swooping down, just

1106
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 24: to show me.

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01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:57,520
Speaker 1: How to give my heart away toward.

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01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 25: So Crystal cry while I'm sleeping and call my name.

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01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 25: And when he came down, saying die Eastern, then a

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Speaker 25: new song was so.

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01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 3: Until some word we breathe.

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01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,600
Speaker 19: One and still.

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01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:45,919
Speaker 11: Wispoke sos bursting in the sky, here the sun.

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01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,760
Speaker 1: Novasting cry.

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01:10:52,120 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 24: Shammy memory, Come and hold me.

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01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 19: While you show me how to fly.

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01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:25,919
Speaker 26: Sound sifting through the glade. Entering reached me with a ray.

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01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 24: Silently swooping down, just to show.

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01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 19: Me how to give my heart away, my.

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Speaker 3: Lea sparkling holes, con feel.

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01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 24: My dreams to sending on the fiery beams.

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01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,680
Speaker 5: I've seen them coming down.

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01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:03,640
Speaker 1: Quick, lad, where Abby is?

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01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 3: La solus gently and say gone on, my pal yourt.

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Speaker 19: Way and still lie the whistler, lie.

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01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 24: Rising from the mast, promise me.

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01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 8: This and only this.

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01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 27: Holy breath touching me.

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Speaker 8: Lie Quin.

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Speaker 19: Song, Sweet Communion of lookis.

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Speaker 3: And that was our episode with Chris Deely. Oh wow,

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01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 3: Sweet Communion of a Kiss. It's a song just about

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01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 3: a kiss. Oh my god, that song slays me. Hell

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01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 3: So that was a fun episode. That was great. I

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01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 3: love playing music with him so much.

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01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:33,600
Speaker 19: He's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully we can do it again. Thank you so

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01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 1: much Chris for being on the show. Thanks for listening everyone.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to talk really slow because the last song

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01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 1: was so mellow, and I'm.

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01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 3: Trying to not scare you with my voice.

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Speaker 4: Enjoy the rest of your day, have a wonderful day

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01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 4: or night.

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01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:53,600
Speaker 3: We love you.

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01:13:55,160 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 27: Thanks for tuning in. Our show was produced by me

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01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 27: and Sarah Oda. It was recorded by Matt Marinelli and

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01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 27: mixed by James Landry. Additional engineering by Greg Tobler, artwork

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Speaker 27: by Eliza Fry, and photography by Shervin linez

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Speaker 3: All Right Yo Sea