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Speaker 1: remember literally literally what made us friends was we were

426
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Speaker 1: at the same college party and I had become obsessed

427
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 1: pink Pink Friday, Yeah, and so so in your dorm

428
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 1: or whatever, so had you And we were at this

429
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: party and we both were off book on the whole album,

430
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,360
Speaker 1: like romans. At the party, we were wanting each other

431
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: like exactly, and I was like, you know, well, you

432
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 1: know what it was everywhere the super Base and super

433
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 1: Base was a deep cut. It was it was before

434
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 1: it was a single, it was on the Luxe album.

435
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: It was it was a bonus track, and people didn't

436
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: know about it. People don't know that super Base was

437
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: a bonus track. Yeah, and so he and I both

438
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,199
Speaker 1: but we knew and yeah, and so that's when I

439
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, maybe we should just be friends for

440
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: this gay reason for the chee. Was there a moment

441
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: where did the ice just melt at that point? Yeah,

442
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: we kind of just we we also because the things

443
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 1: that we have deep in common is like our work

444
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: ethic and like how we comedy were always like people

445
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 1: would be like saying to us, like Becca and I

446
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 1: would like have the same mentality about like going as

447
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: many mikes as possible. People, that's about it, Like what

448
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: do you I think you're doing. It's like, okay, we're

449
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 1: just trying not to die in Chicago. Yeah yeah, and

450
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: also trying to do what we love to do. Yeah,

451
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 1: we want to whatever some men of it. But like

452
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: how we got to know each other is literally like

453
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: we were both starting at the same time, like, hey,

454
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: there's so much comedy here, let's do some of it.

455
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 1: And we had car pools where it was like us

456
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 1: and a group of three other friends and people fall up.

457
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:27,239
Speaker 1: But yeah, for the years, but like the core of

458
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: us are still friends now, like four of us I

459
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 1: moved here, like we started to say back in Chicago.

460
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 1: But yeah, just basically I tell them when I was like, okay,

461
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 1: this is yeah, yeah, go ahead. One time we used

462
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: to host this you know exactly about to say the

463
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:49,199
Speaker 1: racist guy. Yeah, hosting hosting this Mike was like exhausting.

464
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: It's five hours started. It started like years ago by

465
00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: Cameron Esposito and we inherited it. Yeah, and then, um,

466
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 1: so it's the comedians always, unless it was like a

467
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 1: snowstorm or something crazy, there was always that would yeah,

468
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: well for for for the cost of living in Chicago.

469
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: That compensated us well enough for us to show up

470
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: week after week after and we got every and in

471
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: Chicago is well it's a comedy destination. It was also

472
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: the thing where, like it was sixties, spots of every

473
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,479
Speaker 1: comedy in town will show up to show that and

474
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: any celebrity what should only be two or three and

475
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: it was it's like literally and we're like that's the

476
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: energy and the energy everyone's like on board positive, like

477
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: it's literally like transplant some people from brookn Nuts Wools there.

478
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: Um and then also comedy people so uh there's this

479
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: so everyone, there's a list as we mentioned right, and

480
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: sometimes we bumped funnier people, people who have been doing

481
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: it longer, just to like, you can't have sixty people

482
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: that are new to comedy just working, yes, working the

483
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: line up at that scale, because we do it for

484
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 1: fifty people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, so you're you're like, yeah,

485
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: he's this guy, so you sign up. Some people signed

486
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: show up at five thirty. Like the lottery system here

487
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: like stops that from happening or like is it called

488
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: lottery is very brutal and efficient, but it's so much

489
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: it makes so much more sense. Yeah, we have a

490
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: host who does like you can do time if you're

491
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: an asshole between people and like, so yeah, I would

492
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 1: do ten minutes the top that I would host fifteen

493
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: and she would do ten and she would host fifteen.

494
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: And we don't make ten tinten until we got it

495
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 1: to two am. So this guy he got there late

496
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: or on time. Really, if you sign at nine, you're

497
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: already fucked, right, So he was like he's already wrong.

498
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: Yeah he comes. And then this happened to me multiple times.

499
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: Men did not like the women were charge of this.

500
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: It was always like they would try to like bully

501
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: us into bumping them and we'd be like like kill me,

502
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: I don't care. It was mostly a wonderful and pleasant experience.

503
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: Ent at a time was incredible and we both I

504
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: feel like I became a better comedian. Definitely definitely riffing

505
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 1: like it taught me I can riff like it. Just

506
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: that was it. Anyway. So he's late thirties and um,

507
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: Miami type. No, that's the other one. It was two

508
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: dudes to never be friends in real life. One of them,

509
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: like she said, Miami vice. Yeah, no, no, the guy

510
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: who records. So there's one guy. He's younger, like late twenties,

511
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: maybe the thirties. He has like a silver briefcase and

512
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: I had a fitted cap all white in Chicago and winter.

513
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: Then the other guy like fifties sixties, full on dad

514
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 1: jeans to his waist polo. I'm like, how are you

515
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: guys together? Someone else was telling me they went to

516
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: another open mic where they were spending so much money

517
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: and being assholes. So anyway, that's the sext of who

518
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: these people are. The guy he keeps coming over, but

519
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: a lot of people are coming over like hey, when

520
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: am I up? And I'm like thirty four. We're currently

521
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: on twelve. Really, I'm like, I'm sorry, like the restaurants, yeah,

522
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 1: and I'm like I can't. This is what you have

523
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: to do. Like people will be like I have work,

524
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: and I'm like, so do I. And you know, anyway,

525
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: he's getting entitled pissed. So at some point he starts

526
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: falling asleep in the front And this is after he's

527
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: asked me four times when he's up. So I make

528
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: a joke at his like say something and everyone looks

529
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: and laughs, and he someone so fast forward to when

530
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: it's his turn. This is legit like his dad or

531
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: this is younger, brief kid, briefcase. Guy hasn't gone up yet.

532
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: He's just like the woman who's like, uh and not

533
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: never shame another too hot for him. But also I

534
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: would never shame another woman or anything. But like just

535
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: the people at the other bar was like, she showed

536
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: up here, he gave her some money. They've been together

537
00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: the whole time. Is it just friendship? I don't care. Yeah,

538
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: Like she had to endure this because these people are

539
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: so he got up. This is actually like one of

540
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: the worst things I would be on stage. But she

541
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: goes up, she goes up, He goes up. I introduced

542
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: him right as I get off stage. I don't even

543
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: hear what he says, because I'm just in my head,

544
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: like who's next, that are looking at the list like

545
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: we're in the slock. So I just hear people in

546
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: the audience go and I heard everything that happened, like

547
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: stage watching all the machinery turn, and he says, he starts,

548
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: you know, comment in on her body, which is the

549
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: first thing man attacked. Well, girl, I'm trying to I'm

550
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: trying to be euphemism zero. I'm trying to talk around

551
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: it because you know, the first thing, like entitled people

552
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: who started bombing. First of all, the entitled people always bombed.

553
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: I don't know why that is. But the people that

554
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: leave you alone or maybe ask once because they're ages,

555
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: usually like you'll have a good step, but like people

556
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: who are in your ask like hey, what's next, what's next,

557
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: and like annoying suggests bombs. Yeah, So he starts going

558
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: in on science body. I'm my first instinct is hit

559
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: the sound. I don't know how to use technological buttons

560
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: or whatever. So I'm like, well, what I have to

561
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: do is job to the stage then, and so he's

562
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 1: going in he starts being racist, talking about what's your name?

563
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: Doing all of them just like that was like so wow,

564
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: and I just I'll tell you because it's like I was,

565
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: you can google me and look at my body like

566
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: so it's a spirit behind the comment more than the

567
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: perfect Like I like, I don't have to wear a

568
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: braw it's great. But he goes with black women, Uh

569
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: you know, fine body on that one, but with black

570
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: women if you don't have titties and asked, what's the point.

571
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: So that's the energy? Yeah, because and then it's already

572
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: like you're sucking up because me and her here all

573
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: the time, they like us, we give these people free

574
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: drinks all night. You're really gonna attack. This is your

575
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: open and that's going. And then he's proceeds the bomb.

576
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: So that's when he starts calling us Salanda and Shalanda.

577
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: And then at first I was like people started to

578
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: boot him when he talked about my body. But I

579
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: was like no, no, no no, no, leave it because I

580
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: was so excited to go on stage and ross. But

581
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: then when he started saying racist ship, it was like

582
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: I because you want when someone does that, you want

583
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: to be in a place where you can be calm

584
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: enough to destroy them and not get emotional. But oh

585
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: my god, it's not even over yet. So he gets off.

586
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: I grabbed Mike. We go get the funk off. Get that.

587
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: We're both screaming at him. Well I'm just trying to

588
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: like yeah with the silver briefcase. And the coke pulls

589
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: out his phone and starts recording the ship like world star,

590
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: and he was like the world Star because we were

591
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: not even like it was like yeah. But then one

592
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: of these lights, I have to shut out John Marcha

593
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,239
Speaker 1: loose Ki. I don't know if he's still doing And

594
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: in Chicago's down now Brooklyn resident Charlie Verka, he came

595
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: to our rest his phone, tumbo. This man's lies from

596
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: the back. The comedians started throwing, like moving it because

597
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: they don't want to. He's like my phone, and so

598
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: then every finding security comes, I guess people, and security

599
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: is like this huge dude, Larry. He was like the

600
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: nicest person, but I can tell you how to kill

601
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: someone with physically at the kindest. But if you saw

602
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: him and he's like angry, you're gonna do ye. Like

603
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: his hand is like all of our hands. So then

604
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: he gets off because securities like you have to go,

605
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: you have to go. Then miamis either dude, he's still

606
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: trying to go up, and I was like, yeah, I

607
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: literally wanted four minutes. Yeah, after that point, I was

608
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: like fucking dare you? And Cole is like hey, yeah,

609
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: like he fuses it, but like I was, so you

610
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: ever be so angry, like like I just felt that

611
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: in that moment, and it was like, yeah, he never did.

612
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: Literally people like that, the fact that he still wanted

613
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: to go up on stage, so the entitlement, it's well,

614
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: it's what it is. Is like people like that never

615
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: know to leave a space when when they're not welcome.

616
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: It's like they are like, I'm going to stay here

617
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: and literally take up space even though it's been made

618
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: explicitly clear that I don't belong here, that I'm not welcome.

619
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: Like crazy to me, But that is like out of

620
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: a TV. It was mostly not like that. Most of

621
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: chicagoant like everybody in the room, everybody that love love Chicago.

622
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: I love that story and that like that's a that's

623
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: like a big seminal moment for you guys, and for me,

624
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: I just was like it was I would just felt

625
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: so excited it felt like in that moment like she

626
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: had my back fully like she was like a lot

627
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: of people one other ones day, would you say that

628
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: so it don't make me kill you? Done that always

629
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: on my body. But a woman once told me I

630
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: don't wear enough dresses or something, this older female comedian

631
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: to Beckos, like, oh thought you out of the window

632
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: right now? Yeah, I mean I don't have that like

633
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: lots of people like we're adults, who does that haird energy?

634
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: And I don't have time for it, like to throw

635
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: it down for each other. I want to say we have,

636
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 1: but I don't know, we're We're probably people just aren't

637
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Speaker 1: like come and age all all the time. Either. Anyone

638
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Speaker 1: ever said anything fully fucked up? Well I talked about

639
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: this on another episode, but um this We did this

640
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Speaker 1: photo shoot where the stylist kept coming up to me

641
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: and saying like they did like an eye makeup thing

642
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: with me where that was just like a Spider Man.

643
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644
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645
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: like Spider Man. This this stylist comes up to me

646
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: and goes, wow, I love this very Pokemon Pikachoo Pikachoo

647
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Speaker 1: pikacho p I was when the two make up artists

648
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: were also Asian. I just I heard it out of

649
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: the corner from across the room because I was getting

650
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Speaker 1: fitted and everyone just the three of them. I'll just go, no,

651
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Speaker 1: what you didn't have to throw it, But that was

652
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: a moment where you looked at me and I looked

653
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: over across the thing, and I was kind of like,

654
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 1: you would have stepped in if it had gotten really

655
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: I've been right there. I think I would have turned

656
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: to him and been like by this, because he kept

657
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: coming back and saying that, and by that time I

658
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 1: was by the second time, I was like, no, that's

659
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: not it at all. Moments are like you if you

660
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Speaker 1: feel attacked and you look over you make attack, which

661
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: your friend in the room, and then they're if they're

662
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 1: not lady like, that's emotionally at least, that's a writer

663
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: that moment for you too. You guys were each other's writers,

664
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 1: and then you but then like, but then you guys,

665
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: you guys have already been spending five hours a week

666
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: with each other and yeah, and we also ran it

667
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: so it was like twice a week or once a

668
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: week and then We also had a monthly show that

669
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: we ran once a month. Yeah, that's it's still happening now,

670
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah. Can I say something about Chicago. It depends, well,

671
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: I must say this. It is like the scene there

672
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: is like so charming, which it sounds like this sounds

673
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: so whatever grows. I don't mean to like sound patronizing.

674
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: It just seems like the city itself is a great

675
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: city to like go out and then get drunken and

676
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: like and it's cozy, you know what I mean. Like

677
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: it's like every every space I go to, it's like,

678
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of the spaces in New York.

679
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, this is a space, but it's like

680
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: sort of uncomfortable, right. But in Chicago, it was the

681
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: show that you did in Janelle was also on it,

682
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: Janelle James that you were on the bill. It was

683
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: it was at the Green Mill. It was a paper

684
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: that was such a fun vibe, Like everywhere you go

685
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: it's a fun vibe and it's not hard to find

686
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: that like that is rare in a city. I was

687
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: glad to have started there. I'm glad to have started

688
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: there around the time that you it because there is

689
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: so much comedy to do, like we were brand new comics,

690
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: and like on a Monday night you could easily hit

691
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: five open mics in the night and get like a

692
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 1: month's worth the stage time in two weeks, just because

693
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: there's so much to do, and also there's no industry

694
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: people they're like making decisions. You can toil an obscurity

695
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: there for years and just show up on the good

696
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: at comedy and nobody knows who you are. And I

697
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: love that about Chicago because here I feel like the

698
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 1: second you show it, if you were damn, it's like,

699
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: so what I want you to do is come in here,

700
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: and I'm like, none of this ship was in Chicago

701
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: Comedy Central, and the audience at the bar show like

702
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: that's not But it feels like I said, it's like literally,

703
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: I can't stop saying it. But like we I felt

704
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: like in Chicago we're playing assimilation of what this is

705
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: because in Chicago we care just as much. Stakes were

706
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: way lower. But it felt like if I don't get

707
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: booked on blah blah blah show, I'm not comedient And

708
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: and yeah, and then you get here, you're like, oh wait,

709
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: like people get paid, I don't. You can make money.

710
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 1: I don't. I was like fighting over shows for a

711
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: drink tickets. Yeah, but like she said, like you can

712
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: just get so much better try things sail. Yeah. And

713
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: I feel this way about New York too, though, I mean,

714
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: like it's so interesting to hear you say that, because

715
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: like I always think I never spend time in Chicago.

716
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: I've I've spent all my time in New York. Like

717
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: we were just saying, I've been here for a decade

718
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: like doing this, and I think the next place I'll go,

719
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: like the progression would be l A. Because I think,

720
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: like what I've always thought is like like for me anyway,

721
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: starting in New York. It's like they've always talked about

722
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: New York is the place you cultivate and get good

723
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: and like your people, and then you go out to

724
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: Los Angeles to like work, because that's when you're ready

725
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: to be sold for the people. I know, I'm not

726
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: in a rush to get to this l A face,

727
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: And I'll be honest with you, I'm having a good time.

728
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: Here's chilling out because you can also have you can

729
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: also be a career stand up here, you know what

730
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: I mean. If you can be a career comedian here

731
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: but in l A, it's like, you know, that's where

732
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: you actually truly and then that's where the ind expands

733
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: a little bit. We were talking about doing more than

734
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: stand up before. But see, Chicago is a place where

735
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: you like I didn't even I sometimes forget all of

736
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: our friends that started in Chicago, like good, yeah, right,

737
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: like so many people, you guys, but you guys didn't

738
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,160
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739
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:31,880
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740
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: I served my tamure like I was. That's where I lived.

741
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: That's so that's where I started. It was like a destiny.

742
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: You moved to Chicago to come from d C. I

743
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,759
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744
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,040
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745
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746
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:49,360
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747
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,439
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748
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: you should come to Chicago, and I like visited, and

749
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,360
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750
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,040
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751
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: stand up. I was taking but I have not been there.

752
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: She's a liar, because you were an ambassador for two minutes. Well, yeah,

753
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: I was a second city ambassador because it was a

754
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,279
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755
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,920
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756
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,520
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757
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,359
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758
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,239
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759
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760
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761
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,480
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762
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763
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764
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848
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: two in your head because you're just blocked. So I was, yeah,

849
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: I just for me, I was just so preoccupied that

850
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: I needed that preparation at the time, I would never

851
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: have been able to just get on a stage like

852
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: I do now and kind of like riff with an

853
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: audience like that takes time, like you were saying, like

854
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: hosting is like a real skill to you know, going

855
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: up and doing a seven to ten minutes set like whatever,

856
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: Like we all we we know what we're doing, so

857
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: we go up there and do it. You don't know

858
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: what's going to be going down when you go up

859
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: there to host, you know, like some when even when

860
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: we host our live show, which we do frequently, like

861
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: it's it's it's an energy that you have to get

862
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: on board for and you are really performing with the audience,

863
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: and that's different. So I only think, and only now

864
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: could I do that successfully? I think because I'm not

865
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 1: in my head and I feel the same way with improv.

866
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: You're going up there and you don't know what's about

867
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: to happen, and I wasn't comfortable with that. I don't

868
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: think it's a type of mentality because I would be

869
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: an imp would be an improv like say this and

870
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: say that. You can't be that person who was like orchestrating.

871
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: I would be fully like, I'll go out and say this,

872
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: and then this person will probably say this, and this

873
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: would be a funny thing to happen to. Third, because

874
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: I really started My whole education and background is in writing,

875
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 1: so I couldn't stop. Do you guys feel this way.

876
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: We're like especially maybe ever since you guys moved to

877
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: New York, you like the little tiny skills that we've

878
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: had that that you are required to pick up, like working,

879
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: like like I'm sarring this video game. Analogy works with

880
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: so much stuff because it feels like what's your video game?

881
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: Like everything in Chicago was just like a similation to

882
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: just take that to it like a new Yeah, Like

883
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: everything in Chicago is like we're picking up these skills

884
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: like in the first level of a video game, and

885
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: then when you get to New York, you gotta like

886
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: beat all the bosson. It's like all these skills I

887
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: accumulated over the years, like remember to do this, learning

888
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 1: how to perform because when I learned how when I

889
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: when we first started, I think like I knew how

890
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: to write a joke and say came from bad. I

891
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: thought she was like a magician because I was writing

892
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: my jokes. I would put the comma in and that's

893
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: where I would be and I would recite my jokes

894
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: at the audience the way I had written them, like yeah,

895
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: and she came in like emoting and like no one

896
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: where they like I would tell too much detail and

897
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 1: like we had difference. I feel like a but that's

898
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: like on a broad that's that's like you can like

899
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: hone not like in any place, and that's great. But

900
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: I feel like once you start to like do stuff

901
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: like you have your own TV show, basically like you

902
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: basically have to, like like Sonia, like I'm sure you

903
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: had to like learn how to like deliver something to

904
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: camera or like know where to look or like know

905
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: your angle and like know how to like no no

906
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 1: about continuity or you know, it's like leaves a little

907
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: people talking last night in or a lift. Sorry because

908
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: Songa doesn't believe in Uber's corporate policy, I don't think

909
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: because I don't you know, I'm broke. I'm a. I'm

910
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: a we were talking about back in two thousand twelve,

911
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 1: Like I think I was trying to be grateful because

912
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: I was drunk, Like I'm matching in two thousand til if.

913
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: We want to save ourselves now and it's nice, right.

914
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: Also the other side of that, the negative side of it, was,

915
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 1: did you think that when we decided to like go

916
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: on stage and like tell our little jokes that we

917
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: have to be thinking about all the rest of the

918
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: ship career stuff. You get here in your life. Oh ship,

919
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: there's so much more outside of performing, Yeah, like managers, ages,

920
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: people and industry things and would you do this? And

921
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: like it's full time and also now I do too,

922
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: I actually and try to embrace every part of it,

923
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: like even the social media aspect of like branding yourself

924
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: and appearing to be like and so it almost like

925
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: makes you cut yourself some slack for like doing that

926
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: the whole thing of like, yes, social media is a projection,

927
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: but also I we need to do it because shame

928
00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: to Yeah, and so but something that I mean, I

929
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: actually think the biggest part of it, and especially now

930
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: that I'm we're all at a certain point. It's like

931
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: when you meet with people, you have to be personable

932
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: and like to me, it's like actually a lot of

933
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: this career is being able to have conversations and like

934
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: audition in a room, ask yourself, I mean as a

935
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: general right, like they tell you like, oh, we're just

936
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: gonna sit and talk. But it's like you're trying to

937
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: make sure I'm not the most important and that I

938
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: could be Yeah, a person who could be around you.

939
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: I hated him so much, but now I can. I

940
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: can now I think you got to talk to like

941
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: in an interview situation or whatever, like just to be

942
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: like bank burk hit and there new to me and

943
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 1: I'm having a great time. Like I didn't know. I

944
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: was like, who was to talk to me? Oh? How

945
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: do they know? I exist? Tell me more? What do

946
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: you like about my This is great? Have you been

947
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: in one way? They didn't really know who you were

948
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: not yet, Like I'm like five, and I'm like, are

949
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: you guys quoting my jokes? Like tell me more and

950
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 1: then back? So I have to like work on that part,

951
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: like you gotta pitched up. I was. I was going

952
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: and I'm prepared. Before I had like management or any

953
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: like or any representation whatsoever. I was just like fielding

954
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 1: random emails like show up at this building, this network,

955
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, so excited. Now you know these

956
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: are important meetings that she needed to the opportunity a

957
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: compliment session. We you know, wench together. Like when we

958
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 1: were out and we had a script, it was ste

959
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: it was like we went ready. We would be telling that,

960
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: how did you guys meet? And that was like you

961
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: to start the routine. You have to do it like

962
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: that in order to get it in the lining curve,

963
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: the learning, and I always to have like I had

964
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: bullet points for my story, and then I had I

965
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: had jokes. I was slipped in gotta tell if you're

966
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: an immigrant, got to tell a joke about your mama's

967
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: not in soo it, and then I would do the

968
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: second part where featuring things I like. But yeah, before that,

969
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: I would just be like, shit, I didn't tell them this.

970
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: I didn't tell them there are shows, so I have

971
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: like a bunch of meetings in the day. I'm like,

972
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: that's three or four shows and then you know that

973
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: night you have to Yeah. So it's like it's don't

974
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: make me enjoy it, like I enjoying what I thought

975
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: that because I was like, can I greezy about this? Though?

976
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: As much as I'm thinking about my career here, and

977
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: I think we were just talking about this too, like

978
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,919
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we've been so like if you feel

979
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: disconnected with your friends here, but I feel like we've

980
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: had shows together recently and we're doing this, which is

981
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: great because we're talking about a lot of the same ship.

982
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: Even though I feel like my career is more focused here,

983
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: I also feel, for some reason like this is the

984
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,439
Speaker 1: first time we've actually like chilled out and thought about

985
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: our personal lives, like a career life, like we're just like, yeah,

986
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: I would tell like me and my ex would be

987
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,479
Speaker 1: like comedy first and you know that, like like yeah,

988
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: it just there was nothing in the world. We were

989
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 1: very young and that we're tired. Imagine like we would

990
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: be in Chicago like here, my god, like Mike's are harder,

991
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: and the fact that like it's onny comedians or people

992
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: a comedians people, but it's so much longer. So we

993
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: would sit for like five hours, six hours to do

994
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: four fucking man. And now that's crazy, but think about

995
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: like we were just you did the thing with Taraji

996
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: and all the things they must have seen, but they

997
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: must have come up together like complain about just now

998
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: you think about who we were at those tables with them,

999
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: what they're doing now, Like that's not like that ship sucked,

1000
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: but like Jabuki is a real life celebrity right now.

1001
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: All of his shows five shows, and I knew he

1002
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: was doing yeah, and he was sitting there doing his

1003
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: five hours too, So I'm like, wow, that ship sucks.

1004
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: Like everybody at many people who like we're at those

1005
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: little awful tables with us and that a little weird

1006
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 1: bar and and they're winning right now, and I'm like,

1007
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: hell yeah, like we served our a little time. Here's

1008
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: one thing I think was literally just thinking about this

1009
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: the other day. It's like sometimes people ask me what

1010
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: my interests are and I'll be like, well, I do comedy,

1011
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 1: and then it's like, because in order to good comedy,

1012
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: you must be speaking about interesting and talking about your life.

1013
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: So it's like it is that thing of like when

1014
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: you wake up every day and it's about this, but

1015
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:16,240
Speaker 1: you have nothing else to compare that. It is important

1016
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: to be out there and like, you know, experiencing, you know,

1017
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 1: dating and like that. There's a reason why these things

1018
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: get discussed comedy because we only make room for the

1019
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: things that are essential. And so that's why when someone

1020
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: comes in and they have a real take on something

1021
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: that's a new experience, that's why we all snap our

1022
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: next in our direction. It's like, wow, how did you

1023
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 1: have time to have that? Interesting? Yeah. I also think

1024
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: it's like when you make this the most important to

1025
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: your life and there is nothing else, it's like if

1026
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,280
Speaker 1: you get rejected from like a festival or a show

1027
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: or whatever, it feels like so much bigger when you

1028
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: have nothing else that makes you happen. Yeah, that's why

1029
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: I go. When I got here, I realized, like, I

1030
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 1: can't just have comedy be the only like the only

1031
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 1: thing makes me happy, because when I wasn't doing well,

1032
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: it was like what else am I doing? And those

1033
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: real steaks, yes, legit. When you get those things, you

1034
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: get them and then they're over. Oh yeah. So for example,

1035
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: like with like JFL, I went two years ago and

1036
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: now it's it's over. It's this thing that I crossed

1037
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: off my off my list, and it's like for years,

1038
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 1: for years, and so now it's like, wait, what are

1039
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: my goals now? Keep moving if you have a certain

1040
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: mentality that I think we used to have more and

1041
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: we still do, like we're still ambitious people, but I'm

1042
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: happy for the balance because it used to be like

1043
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: never being happy, You're never being satisfied because you're always

1044
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: moving your own goal post back as soon as you

1045
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 1: get that thing that we would complain about not doing shows, Yeah,

1046
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: we do the show, the show because and then be

1047
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: like okay, so what's next, Like what am I upset

1048
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: about not having? Now your phone and your friend is like, hey,

1049
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,240
Speaker 1: I'm opening for you, like, bitch, I'm not doing anything

1050
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: in mine and he's I don't feel like that anymore

1051
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: like we were twenty five or some ship. Like it's

1052
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: just different person, I got time for it anymore. You

1053
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: just sort of like get to a place where you

1054
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: can like like yeah, like comedy you also, I think

1055
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: one thing too is like we all kind of believe

1056
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 1: like I have to If I don't do this, I

1057
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: will never get out of this thing. And then you

1058
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: get to the point where you're like, I can have

1059
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 1: a balanced life, like I can be happy, I can

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00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: benefits we're not, yeah, and have happy much better the

1061
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: times now when I when I'm at peace. I had

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00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: a really good first week and I was really like

1063
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: my brain was clicking while I'm off now. But what

1064
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: I felt like it was like the first time I

1065
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: was like, oh, like I don't have to really be

1066
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: obsessively with this. I took something like I just didn't

1067
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: do sets for a while because I was home. But yeah,

1068
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: I think like it's either if you're not living in

1069
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 1: active life, then you better hope to God that there's

1070
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: some good ship happening, not in quote unquote good ship

1071
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 1: like mindable ship that's going on in the politics or

1072
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: something like that, and so it's so funny because like,

1073
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: but I also don't apply that to out because people

1074
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: talk about the fucking nightmare we're living in right now,

1075
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: and then they say the ship, like, well, it's good

1076
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: for comedy, and it's like this. So it's like, so

1077
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,280
Speaker 1: that's why lately I've been trying to live my life

1078
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: because I actually use my own life for basis something

1079
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: because I'm not talking about the hellscape that is, yeah,

1080
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: topical people who have to do topical comedy right now,

1081
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: like wow, Like I mean, you know, the for the show,

1082
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 1: like it was a drain, like that's trump. It was

1083
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: so exhausted, Like what can we talk about today and

1084
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: make it fun? Oh well, sometimes there was no fun

1085
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: stuff to talk about. We'll talk about law and order,

1086
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: hate crime. I was opinions at some point. I was like,

1087
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: do what I care about Cynthia Nixon's Bengel or I'm

1088
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,240
Speaker 1: not gonna have to come from my knees with this opinion.

1089
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: Like yeah, that's what's all about the talk show format

1090
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: is you're often like I primarily do jokes about like

1091
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: myself and things like that. But like so it's like

1092
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: it was hard to like shift and care. It was.

1093
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: It's a second different. I think if you wouldn't want

1094
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: to always do that, Like I wouldn't want to be

1095
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 1: full time talk show host, even though some of my

1096
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: favorites like cone In and like that's my incredible I

1097
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: just think it takes the type of person that's fine

1098
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 1: being in that like constantly reading up on the horrible

1099
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: ship he's doing to figure out how to make it funny.

1100
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: And that's what my question was earlier, where it was like,

1101
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: did you ever think that you would have to pick

1102
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: up all these crazy random skills where it's like I

1103
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: have to learn how to transition into the next piece

1104
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: in my hair where she's telling me things and I'm

1105
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: trying to like listen to the same time. It was

1106
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: it was such a learning experience, and I felt like

1107
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: I honestly didn't know the scale of that. Julie Miller,

1108
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: who plated the show, shout out to her from UH

1109
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: and she was when we shot the pilot, it was me, her,

1110
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: three people for the panel, and you were to other people,

1111
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: UH and it was what was that ten people who

1112
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: were there for a production? It was it was so yeah,

1113
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: so when we sell a Facebook bias it, I'm like, okay,

1114
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: we'll still Facebook, so probably a little bigger. But then

1115
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,479
Speaker 1: I got there and it would be like forty people

1116
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: on three from it was a production. Then it was

1117
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: like so it was like in reuse to that, like

1118
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: it was very yeah, and then you are the host

1119
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: of that and it is and you know that moment

1120
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: of I remember looking at you and we'd be on

1121
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: the panel and like I was like, God, I wonder

1122
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,959
Speaker 1: if it ever gets like comfortable to do that, because

1123
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: you were amazing, But it's this thing of like you

1124
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: they were literally in your ear and I'm like a

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00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: robot because I'm trying to listen. I remember that, I

1126
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: remember it happening. I was like, not only does she

1127
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: have to negotiate a relationship with us on the panel,

1128
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: gonna be on this like copy which is on the screen,

1129
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: and also be taking suggestions and notes from and her ear,

1130
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: and also with the added thing of potentially there was

1131
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: a celebrity like Regina when she came, I was so

1132
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: ancient the ones actually most of the time when they

1133
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: have celebrity guests. I really was like I was not

1134
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: comfortable with it neither because I just was like, what

1135
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: if I asked her? Because there was one weird moment

1136
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: with me and Regina King. I remember it. No one

1137
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: thought about it for a oh wait a second, say

1138
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: what you're thinking when I said, so, you've been in

1139
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: a lot of black classics and I was going on

1140
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: to list something else and talk about how she's also

1141
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: branched out. But she thought I think she thought I

1142
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: was trying to pigeonhole her for a second. Yeah, but

1143
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: it was nothing like it was to her. It was nothing.

1144
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: But me, I was like, oh no, And as Santy

1145
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: Gold was on an episode All Black Women, I don't know,

1146
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: I didn't so nice and right now I'm so happy.

1147
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: The first day I was there, it was not my episode,

1148
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: but she had been on the episode before me was

1149
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: my queen. She was so nice and that was for

1150
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: support the girls. Nice yeah, which she then ended up

1151
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 1: racking up awards for two At the end of the year.

1152
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: Everyone's like everyone's favorite movie. Yeah, you guys like good, Yeah,

1153
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: I mean nothing for nothing, But you don't get better

1154
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: than Regina Hall. I mean like like she shot a

1155
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:05,919
Speaker 1: poor insight, like she is stunning, has she has an age.

1156
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 1: It's so nice, so genuinely everybody. Honestly, every guest that

1157
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: came on, even like La La, who had like a

1158
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 1: tired day like episode La, by the end of it

1159
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: was like, remember she was like so good. She was like,

1160
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: thank you so much. She was like I thought she

1161
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: was like I was dreading this day, but like, you

1162
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: guys really made it fun. Everybody was like everybody. I

1163
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: feel like the level of production you guys put on

1164
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: also outside of tone, for like the amount of effort

1165
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: to guess, yeah, like you showed up. It's nice, Let's

1166
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: let's try everybody. It was good. That was like my

1167
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: first like real big thing like that, And it was

1168
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: like so nice that everybody who worked on their own,

1169
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: like everyone from like Bethany towns with a makeup and

1170
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: like everybody cared about doing a good job and brought

1171
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: such positive energy. I was very I felt close to

1172
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 1: everyone Hillary and her and also want and make up.

1173
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 1: I was like I live for everyone here and the

1174
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: whole thing was great. And also what I was thinking

1175
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: before it was like you have to do all that

1176
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 1: stuff and then also know that there's forty people watching

1177
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: the screen, so it's like when you stumble over a word,

1178
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: you're like you have to just like focus on the

1179
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: fact that when it again. You know what I mean,

1180
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: But that is hard and yeah, but you turned it

1181
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: on so fast. And Bone was talking about the skills

1182
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: that you pick up over the way. No one's on

1183
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: you this whole time, from the time back two thousand four,

1184
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: third two. The skills did you pick up, Like doing

1185
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: stuff like hosting coals on night worship is bad, having

1186
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: to be on like you want to drink. Plus, here's

1187
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: my joke, here's the next comic. Let's think about this,

1188
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: Like all those cylinders are fire. And when once you

1189
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: secured a bag, you know what you're like, it's like

1190
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: how you secure the bag. It's literally like they was

1191
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: a cool show. I remember when we auditioned for you

1192
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: for it. I was like, I think that would be good.

1193
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: I think that would be good on it and I was, yeah,

1194
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: we were like we are. I was already like that

1195
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: was a journey too behind the scenes because so much,

1196
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: like honestly I loved it, but towards the end, I

1197
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: was like, I have to like I was, it was

1198
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: just so much. The thing too, is like I had

1199
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: to get used to with people writing for me and

1200
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: I can't be in everything and look at every line.

1201
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 1: But it was like it really helped me like understand

1202
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 1: how I would like work in my future projects, like

1203
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: things I create, but also like how to be truly

1204
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 1: collaborative because I feel like it's stand ups, like we

1205
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: decide what we're gonna tell, how we're gonna tell it,

1206
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: like you tell us how much time and where? Yeah,

1207
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: and then working with someone else and like not being

1208
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 1: like that's the type of joke I would make and

1209
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: just being like you know what, like how can we

1210
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: come together? And actually and that was like the biggest challenge,

1211
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 1: but it was I'm so grateful for that total experience.

1212
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: It was so great. We need to talk about you, Rebecca.

1213
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: Can we talk about this? I don't know you opening

1214
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 1: for Chet Queens every whole night. By the time this

1215
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: comes out, it'll be like out like you were there

1216
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: all five nights. Yeah. Yeah, well, thank you so hard.

1217
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:14,919
Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying. We were in the trenches together

1218
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: learning how to do this. Three thousand people in the

1219
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 1: King Theater was incredible, insane space. Becca was holding it

1220
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 1: down as the warm up comic warm it backed like

1221
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: was like just set up that room so so fucking well.

1222
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 1: I will say. We were just talking about productions and

1223
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 1: what good energy they have and how that sets the

1224
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 1: tone for everything. Honestly, being at King's Theater watching two

1225
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: beautiful black women run that ship, be in charge of

1226
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: that ship, book that ship. Because I can't say who

1227
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: the guests are, but the people they pulled out who

1228
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: were honored to be there to see Phoebe and Jessica,

1229
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: like two black girls in our age group. I'm like, oh,

1230
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: what could go wrong? Like literally all people think tickets

1231
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: to see I felt so great doing it. Like I

1232
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: met Phoebe at a festival that no longer exists called

1233
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: Bridgetown in two thousand thirteen, and like remember Portland, Portland,

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01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: Portland anymore? Yeah, well we're going to be so I

1235
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: hope it's there. I'll come back for you. Never Portland

1236
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: would never cancel itself. Is I don't know Jessica. I

1237
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 1: don't know her that well either, but mab is Phoebe

1238
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 1: came onbe. Phoebe came on last culture rest test when

1239
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 1: it was still pretty early, and you know, she's always

1240
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: been so supportive and she will she Phobe is one

1241
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: that will sign a text, you know what I mean,

1242
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: Like like she checks in. I like, she said, be

1243
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: a text the other day that was just like thinking

1244
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: of you. I was like, why are you thinking of me?

1245
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 1: She's like you Michelle Obama also remembering her friends like

1246
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 1: what a queen, what a Yeah. I really was happy

1247
01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: to be a part of that and like the lineups

1248
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 1: they have, like the comics that are books amazing. Everybody's

1249
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: looks were great, Like I had different things every night.

1250
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 1: I was just also just happy to be hosting again

1251
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: because like since I moved here, I've been doing like

1252
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 1: sets in every bar and Brooklyn like every bar, every bar,

1253
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: so many bars, and I'm like, I'm just happy to

1254
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: be different. Now there's like a whole new level. Like

1255
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 1: in Chicago it was like club bar shows, like that

1256
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 1: is it? And like now you realize, well, here there's

1257
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 1: like you could do a Comedy Central showcase actually open

1258
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 1: for someone on a weekend. It's not like, well zany

1259
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 1: the only opening gig. Yeah maybe is great. That's where

1260
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 1: I did my TV show back home. So love you guys.

1261
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: Things are changing a ton here though. I was just

1262
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: talking about that, like you know what, it's so crazy,

1263
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 1: but like I came up through you CB and so

1264
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 1: now just to look from five years ago to now

1265
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: like crazy now close and by the time this episode

1266
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: comes out, it will be closed. That's happened very quickly.

1267
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Speaker 1: You see, be House kitchen is now the space um

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Speaker 1: and and uh, you know it's an adjustment and it's

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Speaker 1: just it just goes to show you like if you're

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Speaker 1: out there doing it, like you know, take it in

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01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 1: because like that you Ceb Chelsea space that was that

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Speaker 1: was a very special space with a lot of with

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Speaker 1: a lot of memories and a lot of moments. So

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Speaker 1: and you know, you're living in major cities where there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of turnover and it's hard to keep business

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Speaker 1: is open. So you know what when if you go

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Speaker 1: out there and like I don't know, you know what

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01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: I mean, just like support, tell friends about the shows

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Speaker 1: that you're doing, because these spaces are not going to

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Speaker 1: be there forever. But I think what we're the four

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01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 1: of us are doing now is like really taking a

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Speaker 1: second to like check in and like do a thing

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Speaker 1: about like our own careers, which like for anyone, for

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01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: anyone listening and thinking that this is like so like masturbatory,

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Speaker 1: it's not because it's like we're really just we don't

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Speaker 1: take We don't take the time in our own lives

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Speaker 1: to do this, to really actually think about where we are,

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Speaker 1: where we want to go, Why what led us to

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Speaker 1: the places that we are. I don't even know we

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01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 1: were going to have a career chat today, but you

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01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: know it's been very healthy. Well well that's why I

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01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 1: was literally I was like, we got you guys in

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01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 1: the moment of the glow and here's last night. It's like,

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01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 1: well last night, like literally they were on Jabooky's Caroline

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01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: Show and John John mulaney tweeted afterwards about Rebecca and

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01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 1: Sonia and Pat and Jabooky and everyone that was on

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Speaker 1: the show, and it's just like, first of all, it

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Speaker 1: was a gay to see that, and that's the biggest

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Speaker 1: stand up that's working right now. And to know all

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Speaker 1: the names, that's very cool. And TWND, yeah, that was

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Speaker 1: very nice. And so that's why I was. I was

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Speaker 1: like that we were having you guys here today because

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01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 1: like that is like pretty cool. Yeah, and we were

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01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 1: just talking about what a nice, nice guy here. It's

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01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: not always like that when you meet people that are

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01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 1: super successful, but in that situation, is it is it

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01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 1: is great. We should ask the question we should ask

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01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: the question because we always has asked the question of

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01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: all of our guests, and we've kind of danced around

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01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: it because we did talk origins but on Lost Culture

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01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 1: Restas and I do know how to say the name

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Speaker 1: of my own podcast, um, despite many people not my

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01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 1: own father goes is Las Costa Rica's this week. I

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01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:20,879
Speaker 1: was like, my god, recalling this week? Are they recording

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01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: Carl Oh? I God, it's so interesting. Um. And I

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01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:27,639
Speaker 1: was like, you know, Dad, it's not hard to say.

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Speaker 1: It's the word culture. And then East He's like, I'll

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Speaker 1: get it. But we on this show, we asked every

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01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 1: guest what was the culture that made you say? Culture

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Speaker 1: was for me the defining pop culture in your life

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Speaker 1: as you were growing up that you can look back

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Speaker 1: now as the adult you are and say that was

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Speaker 1: really kind of like important, whether it be a movie,

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Speaker 1: musical artist, a television show, place you grew up like,

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Speaker 1: what was what was it? Let's go to Rebecca first. Well,

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Speaker 1: we've talked about comedy this whole time, so I hate

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Speaker 1: the minus comedy on top of it. Well, this is

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Speaker 1: I do feel like it's it's it's a defining thing.

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01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 1: Like I grew up religious, like we were in church

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01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 1: all the time. I was not allowed to watch comic

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01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 1: view on b ET like every ever, but I snatched

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01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 1: everything every night. And I never thought I wanted to

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01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:16,759
Speaker 1: be a comedian until I was in my mid twenties.

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Speaker 1: But thinking back, well, I wasn't like I wrote about comedy.

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01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, for like different places, So I

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01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 1: knew I loved comedy, but I never thought I was

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01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 1: going to perform. But thinking back, I'm like the whole time,

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01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,680
Speaker 1: yeah literally, so probably like sneaking and watch that and

1339
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: just uh quoting jokes all the time. And looking back,

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01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 1: my mom reminded me of this recently and I'm like, yeah,

1341
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 1: you're right, you clocked me like literally aged him. So

1342
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 1: who were the comics that were being featured there that

1343
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 1: you remember? Um, definitely Dian Cole. He's like a Chicago legend.

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01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 1: I guess he's on Blackish now. Um. I do remember

1345
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 1: seeing uh Leslie what's her from SNL? Actually Leslie Jones

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01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 1: uh do bits about like being a black woman and

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01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 1: like one to fun and aggressive and I'm like ten

1348
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:05,679
Speaker 1: years old, like yeah, not even knowing what exactly she meant.

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Speaker 1: By any people that resonate with you, even if you

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01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 1: haven't experienced that, like ten years old. Yeah, And I

1351
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: really thought like this was like some of the jokes,

1352
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is what it must be like to

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01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 1: be an adult, like that type of stuff. Also very

1354
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 1: like warped ideas about what was going on in Comic View.

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01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 1: Like they had a set up where there was a

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01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 1: bar on stage. They were girls on stage. There was

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01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 1: like back and forth bolly on griffing with the hosts

1358
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 1: and the people behind the bar, and they were like

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01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 1: really beautiful women on stage every night. And in my head,

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Speaker 1: who I wanted to grow up to be. Where the

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Speaker 1: women who were like beautiful enough to sit on the

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Speaker 1: stage on Comic View. And here's the thing, it was

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Speaker 1: always the same women. And having a show in Chicago,

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01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 1: I had like a TV show for a few weeks,

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01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 1: I'm realizing, like they shot all those episodes in the

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Speaker 1: same day and just changed the girl's shirts and moved them.

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Speaker 1: They were Yeah, and those comics got like seven hundred

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Speaker 1: dollars for doing that. Like nobody was famous after Comic View.

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Speaker 1: But like looking back on that, I'm like, yeah, this

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01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: was a defining thing. So comic you speaking, Yeah, that's

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01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 1: a great answer because and That's also another thing where

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01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 1: it's like it's just a container for just different people

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01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 1: to come flying through because you would only ever rarely

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01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 1: see the same person multiple times. They had like regulars,

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01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: like as far as I remember the format, like they

1376
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,919
Speaker 1: had a few different incarnations, different theme songs to different seasons.

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Speaker 1: But and it would evolve with like whoever was the

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Speaker 1: poppingist urban I guess black comic at the time, but yeah,

1379
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Speaker 1: they seemed like they were keeping relevant. I don't know.

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01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 1: I wasn't really in the comedy scene at age ten,

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01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: but I imagine that the bookers had pretty decent taste, uh,

1382
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 1: and they definitely like had regulars. But I was getting

1383
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 1: to see from the South Side of Chicago, not knowing

1384
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 1: anything about comedy, like the best that the black scene

1385
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 1: has to offer at the time, which turned out to

1386
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 1: be real influential. I guess, yeah, talk about your your

1387
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:55,640
Speaker 1: your path from journalism comedy into comedy, like what I

1388
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 1: was like, so split Sider's website that just got bought

1389
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 1: by Vulture so and exists anymore. Yeah, I was like

1390
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 1: I found it the as I found in an editor

1391
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:07,679
Speaker 1: of like the humor section, which is like the shouts

1392
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 1: and murmurs type thing, so I'd be like reading and

1393
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 1: fielding humor pieces and then publishing them. So that was

1394
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 1: my job. Then then then I write about like albums and stuff,

1395
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 1: so I was doing that for Hawker Randy Fair to

1396
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 1: play a bunch of places. And I started tweeting jokes

1397
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 1: because I always, yeah, you can't help it, you can't.

1398
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, people that I've been interviewing are

1399
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:31,640
Speaker 1: like liking my tweets. Maybe I'm funny. One day I

1400
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 1: went on stage and not quit my job at Splits

1401
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 1: out Of like three months later, and they were pretty

1402
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 1: mad because I didn't explain why. I was like, I

1403
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 1: do stand up now, I need to come behind this curtain.

1404
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 1: I don't work anymore bodies. So yeah, that's how that

1405
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: happened pretty much. I'm similar actually because I started before

1406
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 1: I knew anything. I was eighteen years old and I

1407
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 1: like started writing for the ny U newspaper and two

1408
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 1: film reviews, and I would like interview this like celebrities

1409
01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: or whatever, and I realized, like, I don't want to

1410
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:04,719
Speaker 1: be the person that interview identified with what you're saying,

1411
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 1: because before you find, in my opinion, what you want

1412
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 1: to do. I was in a lot of different creative stuff,

1413
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 1: like right, and I thought I was gonna sing for

1414
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 1: a while. I can't sing, Like it's not something I'm

1415
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 1: good at or should have been pursuing seriously. But I

1416
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 1: wanted to do something I was also doing like event

1417
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 1: promotion for recording artists in Chicago for a while and

1418
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 1: like sneaker company, and I'm like around entertained me trying

1419
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 1: to catch a piece. Yeah, I have like a lot

1420
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 1: of a lot a lot of sneakers, but that's because

1421
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 1: when I was doing that type of promotion, I was

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01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 1: under age and I allowed people to pay me and

1423
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 1: choose a set of money because I was nineteen, Like

1424
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:38,640
Speaker 1: and all I have to show for those you was

1425
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 1: in my life is like hell of dead stock sneakers?

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01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 1: Could I don't care about anymore? Like I should have

1427
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 1: gotten money, you know, Yeah, I should have gotten They

1428
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 1: were like I thought I was cool and I was

1429
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 1: like I was hanging around like people like Chicago hip

1430
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 1: hop people like good music and hustle period like Kanye's

1431
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 1: old management company. But I was getting taking I was

1432
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 1: doing like was like doing party promotion for all these

1433
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 1: people and they're like, here's some shoes, little girl go Away.

1434
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's like I feel like I was on

1435
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 1: the peripheries of performing all this time, and I finally

1436
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 1: figured out what I wanted to do very much. But

1437
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 1: it's interesting that you as soon as you were like,

1438
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:15,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to do that stand up thing that you like,

1439
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 1: had like you you have that precluded you from from

1440
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 1: writing about not. Really there was a conflict of interest

1441
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 1: that I kept running into. I was fielding pieces that

1442
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 1: Not didn't always accept from people who were my stand

1443
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 1: up superiors, and it became an issue sometimes like that's

1444
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 1: I mean, but that's actually a really it was just

1445
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 1: a weird dynamic for a while for me to be

1446
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 1: an open micro telling people who I think are funnier

1447
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 1: than me in person that we can't publish this piece.

1448
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 1: Like it was just weird for me. And I knew

1449
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 1: instantly from my two weeks in the stand up that

1450
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 1: I cared about that way more than anything I've ever

1451
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 1: done on split side or like, there was no comparison

1452
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 1: at all, so easy choice. It takes a lot of

1453
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 1: self forest or thought though to be like instant drug laughs,

1454
01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 1: Like I would write here in pieces and I'm like,

1455
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 1: what do the people think about this? We'll not ever

1456
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 1: know because I didn't leave any comments or nobody retweeted it.

1457
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 1: I told a joke on stage and I'm like, these

1458
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 1: bitches love me, but first laughs. Yeah, never looked back.

1459
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:14,839
Speaker 1: That's so interesting. Instant instant drug. That's that. Um. Okay, Sonia,

1460
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 1: what was the culture that made you say culturists for me?

1461
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 1: So you mean it like something that made me feel

1462
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 1: like I want to do comedy or just something that

1463
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 1: made me love like it helped my life. Yes, yes,

1464
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 1: this is really weird. It's not weird, but I grew up.

1465
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 1: I grew up like Evangela. Well I didn't. Okay. So

1466
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 1: my parents are Rwandan, Yes, my mom is Rwanda. My

1467
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 1: dad's Haitian, and like moving this country I was like

1468
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 1: four or five, and it was like I just never

1469
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 1: felt like I fit in at all. These will call

1470
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 1: us like I'll talk to the names African booty scratchers,

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01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:51,560
Speaker 1: ask as we spoke African like, and this is like

1472
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:55,679
Speaker 1: an all African American neighborhood. But I think it's like fluid,

1473
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 1: like it like it seemed okay for them to like

1474
01:15:58,000 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 1: tack all these things. Yeah, and I think what it

1475
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 1: is like in the nineties, Like it's not like, uh

1476
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 1: what you call it, like black panther. There's no real

1477
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 1: representation of Africa that's like positive in any way. It's

1478
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 1: all negative. So it's like kind of like how poor

1479
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 1: white people some will be like racist because at least

1480
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 1: they're under us. And then I think was the some

1481
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 1: of the black people kids I grew up with, they

1482
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 1: were seeing all these horrible things, the huts and this that,

1483
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 1: and and it was like, well, at least we're not them. Yeah,

1484
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 1: So it just was like that was the only exposure

1485
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 1: they had to Africa. And I had an accent. I

1486
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 1: still like listen to mp are obsessively to try to

1487
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 1: lose my accent, Like I was just doing all these

1488
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 1: things and trying to be because that was tiny. Yeah.

1489
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 1: But and my parents never likes okay, So then I

1490
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 1: was in elementary school, I went to middle school. I

1491
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 1: went to like this private school Evangelical. My parents are Catholic,

1492
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 1: but they kind of were like, it's a good private

1493
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,679
Speaker 1: school because like the neighborhood we lived in, like wasn't

1494
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 1: it great at the time, So uh, then there's no

1495
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 1: culture in any of those schools, Like we didn't have

1496
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 1: theater we didn't have, Like the literature we read was

1497
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 1: like left behind, Like yes, I was so scared of

1498
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 1: what was it called the ratch for so yeah, and

1499
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 1: even like they tell you about the anti Christ, like

1500
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 1: I went to a hardcore one. We would sometimes have

1501
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 1: chapel for four hours instead of school, like she wa

1502
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 1: when I'm going to the school, I'm not really like

1503
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 1: learning about anything. Like I hear the radio sometimes, but

1504
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 1: I remember, like my cousin or someone I left the

1505
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 1: TUPAC C D and I remember which one it was.

1506
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 1: Because after that, I just listened to every single one.

1507
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 1: And I could never go anywhere either because it's like

1508
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 1: I'm fifteen whatever and my friends are having parties and

1509
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 1: my parents are like, well we have to come or

1510
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 1: we have to not just come. Sorry that com but

1511
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 1: we have to know who's going to be there, what

1512
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 1: adult is there, and you know at that age, like

1513
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 1: kids aren't there's no chaperone. Parties were like so I

1514
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: just would not go with immigrant parents. Forget it, forget it.

1515
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 1: Who is this person is? Keisha? It's just like so

1516
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 1: I couldn't go anywhere. I didn't have any friends. I

1517
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 1: was too weird. So yeah, I found that D and

1518
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 1: it just felt like it was when I like, I

1519
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 1: think I have that now to where I like we

1520
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 1: were talking about like people being vulnerable, Like it just

1521
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 1: felt like minus the times when you saw about killing people.

1522
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 1: He went through a face, but it was like personal lyrics.

1523
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 1: And then I was kind of my gateway into other music.

1524
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 1: Like it was just like and then I would just

1525
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 1: sit in my own weekends, never go anywhere. I would

1526
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 1: just sit in my room listening to music, and like,

1527
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was just the first time when

1528
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, art can help, like exists because

1529
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 1: my parents were like you're gonna be a lawyer, a

1530
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 1: doctor or like my dad's a computer scientists or something

1531
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 1: like that, which I did. But then I was like, no,

1532
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 1: I gotta get up. You did study that. Yeah it

1533
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 1: was she was super rich, you guys. I wasn't super rich.

1534
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 1: I was like when I I don't when I graduated

1535
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 1: from college, Uh, I worked as a like a programmer

1536
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:56,639
Speaker 1: in d C. And you can make so much money

1537
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 1: there and there because it's like such a specialized thing

1538
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 1: and there's like an I age and all these government agencies.

1539
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 1: But it's a question like I just was like, this

1540
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 1: isn't I'm living my life for my word only like

1541
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 1: a few years, and then I started doing comedy and

1542
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 1: then I took off. I took off a month at

1543
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 1: a hiatus because I had a panic attack in my

1544
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 1: Austin's office because my UH team lead or whatever she

1545
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 1: was pregnant and I was being tapped to pick her.

1546
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 1: And I can see like the fork in the road

1547
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 1: of like because once you do that, you once she

1548
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 1: in management position, you have no life hours and hours

1549
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 1: and hours, yeah exactly. And I was like, I didn't

1550
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 1: know what I wanted to do, but I knew it

1551
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 1: wasn't this, and I went in and I was going

1552
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 1: to just be normal and then I just my body

1553
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 1: was just like I was. And he was so nice.

1554
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 1: Everyone was so even the people that I worked with

1555
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: after I like quit, they would like come to my shows,

1556
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 1: like my own shows and like take me out to

1557
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 1: eat after and I didn't have any money anymore and

1558
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 1: it was humiliating, but they would like pay for everything

1559
01:19:57,320 --> 01:20:00,600
Speaker 1: I had to go. That was more ago, that was

1560
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 1: like five years ago. I just keep telling it. Just

1561
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 1: still like we talked about like selling his rich friends

1562
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:09,719
Speaker 1: and then from her years, so it was like people

1563
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 1: like it's so cool that you're doing this. It's insane,

1564
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 1: like you're making so much money. You could easily do

1565
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 1: this forever and make your mom happy. And then then

1566
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 1: everyone came through and was like people were so nice,

1567
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 1: like taking me the whole I didn't pay for ship.

1568
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 1: I felt like an idiot and ashole the whole time

1569
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 1: when I'd be like my Chase account, but they were

1570
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 1: so they never were weird about it, and it was

1571
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 1: always like, Yo, we're so proud of you, blah blah blah.

1572
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 1: So Tupac Tupac. He was a complicated man. I didn't

1573
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:44,879
Speaker 1: think he was dead for like a year. He's alive.

1574
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 1: And then I saw a cracked article or not cracks,

1575
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 1: one of the rotten and it showed his fucking autopsy. Yes,

1576
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 1: I don't know how I saw that. I think someone

1577
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 1: sent it to me, like he is dead. The pictures,

1578
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 1: the picture that you can see if you if you

1579
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 1: really look for it, are fucking crazy thing, like, oh

1580
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 1: my god, I think no, I'm taking a picture of that,

1581
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 1: Like wow. The only picture I saw is after got shot.

1582
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 1: He was flipping off the camera like anything that shot

1583
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 1: you and yeah, yeah, like that and that is your

1584
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 1: energy you're very much like, yeah, let's do that. I

1585
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 1: can see you flip. I can't think if somebody shot you,

1586
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 1: you're flipping off the camera. Yeah, like if somebody really

1587
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 1: trying to kids be I can't tell you how she

1588
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 1: could kill anyone in a giving room. She's very no, no,

1589
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 1: no no, I just mean she looks at security. This

1590
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:46,560
Speaker 1: is like positive, I'm not trying. She knows. She's very prepared.

1591
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 1: So like if you're like, it's a possible, just because

1592
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 1: it was just up to me, I would lay down

1593
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 1: and die. But back gun will be like we can't.

1594
01:21:56,680 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 1: We need, we need, we need, like the survival and stinks.

1595
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 1: You know, I think I really do have something to

1596
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 1: go down about how to just no one is expecting

1597
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:10,879
Speaker 1: the food because of the shutdown. I always always grape

1598
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 1: from the earth, like what I always joked, like if

1599
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,560
Speaker 1: there's ever like a zombie apocalypse, I'm going to be

1600
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 1: the person that's like in the in the group, it's

1601
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 1: like we have to go, now, come on, I'm gonna

1602
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 1: be like, okay, wait, let me charge my phone, let

1603
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 1: me just get going outlet we can't go. Can we

1604
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 1: wait fifteen minutes? Stoll be outside five minutes into the

1605
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 1: second pigeons like I'm ready because where's my weed? Honestly, truly, truly,

1606
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 1: if anything, if any bird Box happens, I see we're

1607
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 1: seeing just some standing. That movie it's the best. It's

1608
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 1: the one of the best Netflix movies I've ever seen.

1609
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 1: That's not saying it's a qualification. Probably, Yeah, I seen

1610
01:22:58,040 --> 01:22:59,640
Speaker 1: some good was I got some key rom coms out

1611
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 1: right now? Anyone watch my film The After Party? No

1612
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,719
Speaker 1: is it the one about the rapper? Yeah, it's called

1613
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:11,720
Speaker 1: The After Parting. It was so funny because I did

1614
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 1: after Party and after after Party at the same time.

1615
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 1: My resume looked like a crazy party after after part.

1616
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 1: It was funny because I saw my update resume and

1617
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, that looks sad to see that. That looks

1618
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 1: like a copying thing. The guy who was trying at

1619
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 1: a record deal, right, Yeah, that's funny. Yeah. I was

1620
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 1: in it for the trailer. In the trailer and love

1621
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 1: were probably watching stuff and then I, oh, my god,

1622
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 1: that's a comedian. Like yeah that I annoy my family

1623
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 1: so much because I'll be at home like, hey, I

1624
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 1: know him, like watching like a Chase commercial. Like Evan Williams.

1625
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 1: He is out there booking. He was on the Americans, like,

1626
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 1: like I feel like he books TV stuffn't busy, like

1627
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 1: on a movie doesn't have a movie start um. It

1628
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 1: always helps. I think it's im I was gonna say,

1629
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 1: I'm fucking obsessed with these these career change stories, like

1630
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 1: they're my favorite thing in the whole world. I didn't

1631
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 1: quite experience that when you guys started, well we started

1632
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 1: in college, but I like, I was like, I was

1633
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:18,879
Speaker 1: like applying to med school until how did your parents

1634
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 1: it was you were gonna be a fucking doctor. Yeah,

1635
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: And it was actually it was a slow it was

1636
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:27,679
Speaker 1: this weird they didn't like it wasn't like they had

1637
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 1: the wrath of God and them like within like like

1638
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 1: in the moment that I told him I wasn't going

1639
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 1: to do it, I was like I was telling them

1640
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 1: I was thinking about not going to med school and

1641
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 1: they were like, okay, And it was just this like

1642
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 1: slow creep of guilt, like poisoned everything. Slow. It wasn't

1643
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 1: a big cataclysmic thing. So that was like that was

1644
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 1: their reaction. And now it's like over the years, it's

1645
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 1: it's been about like going about the process of detoxifying

1646
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 1: that I gotta be happy now, right, like the like

1647
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 1: they can understand like because well for them, it's like

1648
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 1: they understand that their colleagues and co workers are coming

1649
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 1: up to them being like, aren't you so you talk

1650
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 1: about this? No, because okay, So I did a show

1651
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 1: with city uh and um d C huh uh and

1652
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 1: it was at this theater. Yeah, you're so considered a

1653
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 1: skill that you have to learn any stil. But my

1654
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:30,760
Speaker 1: parents same thing as you, where it was did you

1655
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 1: feel like I felt like I was like letting down

1656
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 1: generations of people? Yes? I was, like my my dad

1657
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 1: was constantly like you come from such a generation of

1658
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 1: nomads and farmers and all these people who suffered and

1659
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 1: like blah blah like whatever, like the sacrifices we've made.

1660
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 1: My mom is always like, you're my second child. If

1661
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 1: I had stayed in China, you wouldn't have been born.

1662
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 1: All this stuff like essentially it's like so fucked up.

1663
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I need to honor all the sacrifice.

1664
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 1: And our American friends are like, I want to be

1665
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 1: a juggler narers like do what you want to do?

1666
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, my parents same thing where it was like

1667
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 1: they never I don't have the type relationships like my

1668
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 1: Rwanda is in my dad is like a much mellow

1669
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 1: Haitian but like he wouldn't they would never be like

1670
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 1: You're a failure? How dare you? But it was like

1671
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 1: that feeling, like it was that guilt of like my

1672
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 1: mom's like, so, how's this little comedy thing? And it

1673
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 1: was like the or like she they thought I had

1674
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 1: a core life crisis. I got her like Carjack the

1675
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 1: whole thing, but she thought that that had precipitated, like

1676
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 1: I was type thing. But it was like I was

1677
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 1: already taking acting classes like it, you know what I mean,

1678
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:34,600
Speaker 1: like on the side during my job. But it was

1679
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 1: like I think for her the first time when I

1680
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 1: my mom specific because my mom moved to this country

1681
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:42,559
Speaker 1: when she was like in her late twenties, so like

1682
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 1: most of her a lot of Western culture. She gets

1683
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,839
Speaker 1: it because she's very savvy, but she doesn't like anything

1684
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,599
Speaker 1: young at that time where it was like she there

1685
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 1: was a divide between her upbringing versus what she was

1686
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 1: a similar exactly. So I did that show and a

1687
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:58,759
Speaker 1: lot of the people that come to the Wooly Mammath

1688
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 1: Theater in DCRE life, you know, like a flu NPR

1689
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 1: type crowd and then I'm like yeah, and then there's

1690
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 1: like young people. So I did a show. They came.

1691
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 1: I did like I mentioned that they were in the crowd.

1692
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 1: I made some joke that fast forward. After the show,

1693
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 1: my parents are like, oh, good, good, Like my dad

1694
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 1: is new understood more references. He's like, that was my

1695
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 1: mom is being supported by default. She still doesn't get

1696
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 1: this ship. So it's like very and then these this

1697
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 1: group of white people and they all look like they

1698
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 1: have mortgages and the like. They were all like if

1699
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:28,960
Speaker 1: it was people are age, she would have been like please,

1700
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 1: But it was people that were in ther like forties fifties,

1701
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 1: late forties fifties, who were like, hey, is this your daughter?

1702
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 1: She's so funny? Is this she did? You know? She

1703
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 1: was this funny and my mom is really like what

1704
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 1: the like her face was like yeah, okay, yeah. And

1705
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 1: I think that was the first time where they saw it,

1706
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 1: like wait a minute, there's a theater, here's a pamphlet,

1707
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 1: and then the more stuff you do. I think for

1708
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 1: them it's a big thing. Is I can afford I

1709
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,679
Speaker 1: pay my own bills, you know, for the very least,

1710
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna die on the street full what these

1711
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:02,679
Speaker 1: like my mom does not understand what stand up is. Period.

1712
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 1: She tries to explain it, She's like I told my

1713
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 1: friend you want to live facebook posting. I don't. She

1714
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 1: doesn't forget it, Like like a streaming show, like have

1715
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 1: you ever tried to explain Like they're like, so, what's

1716
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:18,520
Speaker 1: going on? And you try to explain a job you got.

1717
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:24,599
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'll be like I'm shooting sponsored countries in

1718
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:30,520
Speaker 1: Montreal and they'll be like, what the fuck are you saying? Yeah,

1719
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:34,639
Speaker 1: part of the kind of like wishes my parents didn't

1720
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 1: understand it so well. Yeahs like you know what I mean.

1721
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 1: It's like this thing like my dad loves stand up okay,

1722
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 1: very particular ideas about how nothing. Yeah, And the thing

1723
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 1: is like also like when you come from it's a

1724
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,599
Speaker 1: little bit of a strange thing to come from Long Island,

1725
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:56,679
Speaker 1: where everyone has this idea of like, oh, he moved

1726
01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 1: to the city and of course this is going to

1727
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 1: happen when he goes to comedy and then like all

1728
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 1: your close friends book SNL but you they're like, oh,

1729
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 1: so you're struggling. It's like they don't get that, Like

1730
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean it's like that thing of

1731
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 1: like they have such an understanding and it's like and

1732
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 1: it would be so meaningful, you know what. It's an understanding,

1733
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 1: but it's also a limited, limited understanding of like they

1734
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 1: know the big things. So it's like I I used

1735
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 1: to get all the time, like you know what you

1736
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 1: should audition for Saturday night? Yeah sure, yeah, yeah exactly.

1737
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 1: So part of me is like, of course, I like

1738
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:37,600
Speaker 1: and I'm very lucky because my parents, I will say this,

1739
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 1: they have never once suggested I do something else, and

1740
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 1: they've never even asked me what my backup plan would be,

1741
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:49,799
Speaker 1: not one time, And I think I mean the beast

1742
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 1: minority of that happening. But like there are times when

1743
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:55,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, of course, I'm like any human being that

1744
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 1: wants to make them proud. So it's like in the struggle,

1745
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:00,600
Speaker 1: like in my mid twe is when it was like

1746
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 1: I was still doing shows for only free and like

1747
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:06,719
Speaker 1: still still quote unquote making an investment in my career,

1748
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 1: which meant only paying to do the show I was doing,

1749
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:11,599
Speaker 1: like I'll share them. When I was performing at the pit,

1750
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 1: like and you were paying for the tech, you know

1751
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:18,760
Speaker 1: what I mean? Yes, um, you know they're being taken

1752
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 1: advantage of their oh the performers. But um, I feel

1753
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:26,800
Speaker 1: fine saying that. Um. But you know, it's like it's

1754
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:30,080
Speaker 1: they when they were sticking with me through even that

1755
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 1: it's kind of just like, okay, that's really it's good.

1756
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 1: But also there's that thing of like you don't want

1757
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:38,720
Speaker 1: to disappoint them when they've been riding with you through

1758
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:40,880
Speaker 1: the whole. It just means it'll feel so good when

1759
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:43,320
Speaker 1: it's it fine, Like first of all, I feel like

1760
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:46,599
Speaker 1: you you've you've acquired so much, but also like they

1761
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 1: see that they see how much like they saw you

1762
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:50,839
Speaker 1: on the Tonight show. They came to the fucking taping

1763
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 1: and like they come to ship like they've seen it,

1764
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:57,639
Speaker 1: they've seen it in action. They see you in that

1765
01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:01,000
Speaker 1: moment in your element, and they they are when so proud.

1766
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 1: It just means that once like a great thing happens,

1767
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 1: it'll just feel so good. It feels nice to like

1768
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 1: because all throughout my twenties I couldn't get the nice

1769
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 1: gifts like now I have any money at all, So

1770
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:16,160
Speaker 1: like I got like I got tickets from my dad

1771
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:18,800
Speaker 1: and my mom to see Hamilton's and I was like

1772
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:30,640
Speaker 1: this pack it up get all yeah, you know, but

1773
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:32,960
Speaker 1: your dad loves stand up like like what, like what's

1774
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:35,599
Speaker 1: that thing? Like like that play out? Well, I think

1775
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:37,720
Speaker 1: everybody was shocked when I started doing stand up just

1776
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 1: because that was never a thing that I wanted to do. Um.

1777
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 1: They never were not supportive though, they were just confused,

1778
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 1: very confusedly like oh, okay, well go do that. But

1779
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:52,799
Speaker 1: my parents are very supportive, like if anything ever happens,

1780
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 1: like they posted on their facebooks like they're really supportive.

1781
01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 1: But I know, like if I ever were to make it,

1782
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:00,719
Speaker 1: like my dad would put out like an AUM instantly,

1783
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 1: like you'd have like an R and B career or

1784
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:08,800
Speaker 1: something like that. Also wanted to be famous, so like

1785
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:11,719
Speaker 1: that's the type of energy. I'm like, they're very supportive,

1786
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 1: but like I have a feeling like my dad would

1787
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:16,080
Speaker 1: try to like become a part of the show like somehow.

1788
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's good ship though, it's funny. My family

1789
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:22,919
Speaker 1: is funny. So I just yeah, my mom's really supportive

1790
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 1: to like she's great. Yeah, she's they they just were

1791
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 1: really confused like okay, you're doing this because I like

1792
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 1: Hobby jumped a lot before, I think, so I think

1793
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 1: they're mostly happy that I stuck with anything for any

1794
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:39,000
Speaker 1: amount of time. And they're like, god, bless, Like, if

1795
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:41,679
Speaker 1: that's what you're gonna do, focus on that and we'll

1796
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:43,840
Speaker 1: see how it goes. And to them, that's the most

1797
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 1: meaningful thing, like she's sticking with it. Fine, Yeah, not

1798
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:50,599
Speaker 1: not fine, but like great, you know, it's like that's

1799
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:54,400
Speaker 1: all they want. Well, guess what Melani tweeted, Yeah, so

1800
01:32:55,000 --> 01:33:00,960
Speaker 1: it's go and there's a breakout series show on. We're

1801
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. Um, but it's time for I don't

1802
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 1: think so, honey. So I don't think so honey. Is

1803
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:14,600
Speaker 1: that segment we have when we take one minute to

1804
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:17,000
Speaker 1: rail against something in pop culture that we are hating

1805
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:20,760
Speaker 1: right now? Um are live shows. We are going to

1806
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:23,400
Speaker 1: be on tour. You can get tickets online. We're gonna

1807
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 1: be in Portland, Seattle, Vancouver, San Francisco, Philly, Boston, d C, Houston, Austin,

1808
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:35,680
Speaker 1: and Alice Hunt and Portland is coming back just for us.

1809
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:38,559
Speaker 1: Portland's gonna be right right, just for us. Okay, the

1810
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:42,880
Speaker 1: girls are looking girls, So I have yeah, I have one.

1811
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 1: I alluded to it in the beginning of the episode,

1812
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 1: and I am ready Okay, this is Matt Rodgers is

1813
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:48,760
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I

1814
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:50,800
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. When I'm at a bar and

1815
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 1: I go to order a drink and they say, they

1816
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:54,280
Speaker 1: say they need to see my I D with my

1817
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:56,679
Speaker 1: debit card, when I've already had my I D checked

1818
01:33:56,720 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 1: at Okay, why do we need to keep checking? I

1819
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:01,720
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. So if you're gonna have a

1820
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:04,599
Speaker 1: coach check and I have this big, gass wallet, I

1821
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:08,040
Speaker 1: put my wallet in my coat and I checked the coat.

1822
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 1: There needs to be signed up if you're gonna need

1823
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:11,640
Speaker 1: your I D at the bar, that can't be a

1824
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 1: surprise at the bar. And you know that I have

1825
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:17,720
Speaker 1: lots of little issues with bars, specifically always I have

1826
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:20,360
Speaker 1: a problem with the patriots. Whenever the patrons get their

1827
01:34:20,439 --> 01:34:22,639
Speaker 1: drink and they stay parked at the bar, that's usually

1828
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:24,719
Speaker 1: a problem I have with them. But no, I'm flipping

1829
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:27,040
Speaker 1: it around on the bartenders now and the managerial staff,

1830
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 1: because guess what, honey, you already checked my I D.

1831
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 1: You can see on my wrist right now, this stamp.

1832
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:36,720
Speaker 1: That means why do you need more information? So then

1833
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 1: they told she said to me, you're gonna have to

1834
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:40,160
Speaker 1: go to the coacheck and get your I D, which

1835
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:43,000
Speaker 1: I've already waited at the coach check for thirty minutes. No, honey,

1836
01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Clearly eighteen year old couldn't

1837
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 1: grow this fine mustache, So give me my drink. It's

1838
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:53,960
Speaker 1: security theater, it's bullshit, and they just they just want

1839
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 1: to make it seem more official by checking or who cares?

1840
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:58,479
Speaker 1: And I was like, I literally said to the girl.

1841
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:00,679
Speaker 1: I was like, she goes I to see your idea

1842
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 1: with a debit cart and I said to her, I

1843
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 1: was like, I mean I checked my ideas in my coat.

1844
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 1: Do I really have to go get it? And she

1845
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:09,240
Speaker 1: was like yes. And it was the most frustrating example

1846
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 1: of someone doing their job at all costs. I'm like,

1847
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 1: and you know what, we also stuck. She already poured

1848
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 1: the Jamison. Ginger was like, I was like right, and

1849
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 1: I was like, you should have been like, well, now

1850
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 1: you look like a fucking iddie because you're gonna have

1851
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:24,160
Speaker 1: to pour that. I was like, are you really gonna

1852
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:26,040
Speaker 1: waste that drink? She goes, you need to get your

1853
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:27,519
Speaker 1: I D. And I was like, you know what, I

1854
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:30,599
Speaker 1: respect that you're doing your job, but really, this is dumb.

1855
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:33,680
Speaker 1: I was like, this is so aggressively dumb that, like

1856
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:38,400
Speaker 1: my idea was checked honestly on the way in. Fully,

1857
01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:40,920
Speaker 1: I have this as proof I didn't speak in there.

1858
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:43,720
Speaker 1: There was a huge line. He was so annoying. So

1859
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 1: then I had I had to have a dear friend

1860
01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 1: buy me a drink. And because I was going to

1861
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:53,000
Speaker 1: be a big for you to and not be for

1862
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 1: dear friends, right friends, pest culture number eighty nine, Thank god,

1863
01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:00,960
Speaker 1: for dear friends. That's that's when you know you have

1864
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 1: a writer die. All right, So this is okay, you're

1865
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:10,599
Speaker 1: being pressure. No, but my my, my head is going

1866
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 1: blank for some reason. Okay, um, yeah, okay, okay, this

1867
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:17,280
Speaker 1: is I don't think sometimes you need to just take

1868
01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 1: a second. This is I don't think so honey, And

1869
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:23,439
Speaker 1: it's time starts now. I don't think so honey. The

1870
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 1: fact that I couldn't find corn starch and I had

1871
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 1: to go to three different store, no, this is okay,

1872
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:32,720
Speaker 1: this is this is culture. Corn starch. Corn Starch is

1873
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:36,280
Speaker 1: not fucking It's not a fucking delicacy in this town.

1874
01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:38,160
Speaker 1: And if I want to thicken a stew with the

1875
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 1: corn starch slurry. Why is it so fucking hard for

1876
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:44,960
Speaker 1: me to go and to go to every Boo within

1877
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:47,679
Speaker 1: a half mile radius and to go to two different

1878
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 1: Trader Joe's and then to find corn starch at thirty seconds.

1879
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:54,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to have to give Target

1880
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:57,519
Speaker 1: any more money than they already have. That they already

1881
01:36:57,560 --> 01:37:00,920
Speaker 1: own all half to Pete the huts of the world,

1882
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 1: and so I don't need Target to get any more

1883
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 1: if my money everyone's is freaking out about Amazon. Target

1884
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:12,720
Speaker 1: is the next big monster. All you have to be

1885
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:14,720
Speaker 1: careful for Target. I don't know to see you his name,

1886
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:17,559
Speaker 1: but we we do have elon musk on our hands,

1887
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:19,599
Speaker 1: and they're going to kill us and eat us with

1888
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:21,680
Speaker 1: their teeth. And that's the one minute. I believe her

1889
01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 1: name is Miss Target, Miss Target. Target love that. I

1890
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:29,599
Speaker 1: will say this, It was worth it to get whatever

1891
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:32,519
Speaker 1: you needed for that stew, because I actually tasted that

1892
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:37,720
Speaker 1: stew that you and they made a very I had

1893
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:42,280
Speaker 1: stew this whole thirty beef stew at Studias and it

1894
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 1: was the stew it need salt, and I proceeded to

1895
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 1: put salt and I added some crisp kosher crystals and honey,

1896
01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 1: if you think that just being on Whole theater it

1897
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:52,960
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you can enjoy food. Let me tell you

1898
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:58,320
Speaker 1: beef stew get to know it. Thank you, But I'm

1899
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:00,439
Speaker 1: happy you have eventually found corn Star. That was a

1900
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:03,120
Speaker 1: very interesting I don't think so corn chart is technically

1901
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:05,479
Speaker 1: not Whole thirty compliant. But where am I going to

1902
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:13,599
Speaker 1: find fucking arrow root powder? Yeah? I'm only gonna use

1903
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 1: once in Yeah, I was almost gonna do. I don't think,

1904
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 1: so honey that food goes bad because it's literally it's

1905
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:24,400
Speaker 1: like I can't eat all these eggs in three days. Yes,

1906
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:27,880
Speaker 1: you're right, even six, okay even. I think we're gonna

1907
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 1: go with Rebecca first and Insania. This is Rebecca. I

1908
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:34,160
Speaker 1: don't think so honey. Okay, it's gonna be popular, but

1909
01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna don't do it. Okay, this is Rebecca. iOS.

1910
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Her time starts now. Okay,

1911
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:45,439
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Marijuana decriminalization, whoa, because what

1912
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:48,679
Speaker 1: a tease? Do you know what I mean? It sounds

1913
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:52,240
Speaker 1: like it's bad, but I have my reasoning. It's it's

1914
01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:54,559
Speaker 1: fun boy talk. What Clomo is doing right now? The

1915
01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:57,560
Speaker 1: headline was like he's teasing, taking the first steps of

1916
01:38:57,640 --> 01:39:01,479
Speaker 1: possible eventually maybe making a criminalization a priority. I know,

1917
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:04,240
Speaker 1: fun boy talk when I hear giving us crimes to

1918
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:07,000
Speaker 1: keep hope, like just make it legal and explains people's records,

1919
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:09,920
Speaker 1: like what are we doing? You know what I mean? Yeah? Also,

1920
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:12,360
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey sidebar Andrew Cuomo because I

1921
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 1: thought Chris Cuomo the hot woke one on cee any

1922
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:18,120
Speaker 1: with his son, that's his brother. Like how embarrassing? You

1923
01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like I'm embarrassing. Yeah, Like that's

1924
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:24,480
Speaker 1: sad to me, So side, I don't think so, honeytons.

1925
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:27,040
Speaker 1: And also like it's just like an open relationship with law.

1926
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:30,080
Speaker 1: Tell me if I'm going to jail or not, you know, jail,

1927
01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:32,519
Speaker 1: make the rules clear. Everybody should get what they want

1928
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 1: five seconds. Hey, hey, hey, smoking it every day and

1929
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:39,520
Speaker 1: there you go, and that's one minute. It's open relationship

1930
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:42,320
Speaker 1: with laws. Also, here's the thing. If we decriminalize it,

1931
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 1: which obviously it should be, I think it should come on.

1932
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 1: But is it gonna get extremely expensive? I don't know.

1933
01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:54,400
Speaker 1: Is it important? It's like a birthday situation where you

1934
01:39:54,479 --> 01:40:00,519
Speaker 1: just gowing with seventeen dollars store man, and you don't

1935
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:02,360
Speaker 1: have to deal with those weird weed people, like every

1936
01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:05,040
Speaker 1: comedian says it. But my guys extremely flaky and I'd

1937
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 1: like to have sort of like sucks. And I haven't

1938
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:10,040
Speaker 1: called him in almost a year because I just go

1939
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:12,080
Speaker 1: and pick up stuff in l A. Honestly, what the

1940
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:14,200
Speaker 1: way to do what I just did was I bought

1941
01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:19,600
Speaker 1: I spent dollars one time instead of like having to

1942
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:23,800
Speaker 1: call the person like every three weeks. I've stockpiled and

1943
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:31,200
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm on a new level financially do

1944
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:34,800
Speaker 1: I do smoke every day? So why not just get

1945
01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 1: it all now? I walked to a friend's house sometimes

1946
01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:41,560
Speaker 1: and I just buy weed of that person because I

1947
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:45,439
Speaker 1: don't know any friends. I will say, I don't think so,

1948
01:40:45,479 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 1: honey me because the last time I bought weed was

1949
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:50,240
Speaker 1: during our snowstorm and I realized Dave Zoni was over.

1950
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:51,560
Speaker 1: We were at my apartment and I was like, I

1951
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:53,000
Speaker 1: think I don't have any weed. He was like, are

1952
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:55,760
Speaker 1: you fucking crazy? And it was this situation of like,

1953
01:40:56,000 --> 01:41:00,120
Speaker 1: am I legit going to call my last year? This

1954
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:02,960
Speaker 1: was this was like you months ago, your guy when

1955
01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:08,040
Speaker 1: there's a storm, girl, excuse me. She did come and

1956
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:10,000
Speaker 1: um she was like, I'll be there in an hour

1957
01:41:10,040 --> 01:41:11,920
Speaker 1: and a half and I was like, yeah, sure, And

1958
01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:14,800
Speaker 1: she finally showed up, and I felt so bad because

1959
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:17,120
Speaker 1: she goes, I was really hoping you guys would be girls.

1960
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:19,960
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I promised that we're nice. We're

1961
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:21,680
Speaker 1: also gay, and she goes, yeah, but get you guys

1962
01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:25,360
Speaker 1: don't have tampons. And I was like, oh, she riding

1963
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:32,840
Speaker 1: around those streets, but I felt so bad. I was like, Okay,

1964
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:34,880
Speaker 1: there's a store right down the street. She goes, yeah, Okay,

1965
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:36,720
Speaker 1: give me the money so I can go. I was like, okay, here,

1966
01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:42,280
Speaker 1: hundreds of dollars to put it in. We don't think

1967
01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:44,400
Speaker 1: about the struggles of our drug dealers, and I think

1968
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:50,439
Speaker 1: we need tom It's not criminal, it's not. It's not

1969
01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:52,800
Speaker 1: it's decriminalized, but it's not illegal, and they are out

1970
01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:57,360
Speaker 1: here serving us. Yeah, for us, honestly, it would be

1971
01:41:57,400 --> 01:41:59,479
Speaker 1: a drift. And I was like, very thankful that she

1972
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 1: came through because let me tell you that the snow

1973
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:04,439
Speaker 1: was coming down. You were being irresponsied, and I was like,

1974
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 1: I hate that I'm doing this, but I just need

1975
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:08,840
Speaker 1: weeds so bad. It's not like they're not getting the job.

1976
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:12,439
Speaker 1: Yeah she was. Yeah, it was like somebody's got to

1977
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:15,840
Speaker 1: be next on the list, and me, come, I've got

1978
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:18,120
Speaker 1: a lot of calls. But you but you were sucking

1979
01:42:18,160 --> 01:42:22,439
Speaker 1: bike career for Yeah. But if I'm saying that, I'm

1980
01:42:22,479 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 1: saying you were talking about how it's it's a hard job,

1981
01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:28,680
Speaker 1: and yeah, like I was risking my life a Grubhub

1982
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:32,360
Speaker 1: and I was delivering sandwiches. So it wasn't like illicit substantism,

1983
01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:34,920
Speaker 1: Class one drugs or anything. It was just like lunch.

1984
01:42:35,040 --> 01:42:37,920
Speaker 1: But it was like high risk, low return, Like I'm

1985
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:40,439
Speaker 1: biking from my life in the streets of downtown Chicago

1986
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:42,760
Speaker 1: for tips, and it just was not a good look.

1987
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:44,080
Speaker 1: And it was a year of the Year of the the

1988
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 1: Polar Vortex, which I quit, and we just talked about this,

1989
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:48,560
Speaker 1: but I vanished to l A to go to a

1990
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:51,760
Speaker 1: festival and just didn't come back four months. Yeah, but

1991
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 1: once you get a little taste of l A, at

1992
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:55,760
Speaker 1: least the weather, it's like, Okay, why do I live

1993
01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:57,519
Speaker 1: anywhere else? And then you meet the people and you

1994
01:42:57,560 --> 01:43:05,280
Speaker 1: realize why, whatever, I'm kidding, that's an easy I'm gonna

1995
01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:09,400
Speaker 1: be there for two months Okay, so this is similar

1996
01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:14,720
Speaker 1: to today, so please, this is it's going to be incredible.

1997
01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:16,360
Speaker 1: This is sons. I don't think so, honey. Her time

1998
01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:19,160
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so, honey. People who like

1999
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:26,160
Speaker 1: room Termini, porta bella taki all dirt dust. The ship

2000
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 1: comes from dirt. It's literally fungy guy. However, you say that,

2001
01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:34,120
Speaker 1: and as the saying goes, you are what you eat

2002
01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:37,599
Speaker 1: and side notes. Side note, I would never slander magic mushrooms.

2003
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:39,360
Speaker 1: If you are going through something personal right now and

2004
01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:41,280
Speaker 1: you need to sit in a room for six hours,

2005
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:42,760
Speaker 1: there at the lines in your hands to do it.

2006
01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 1: But everything else, you might say this undercuts my argument,

2007
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:50,599
Speaker 1: But I say, nay, Oyster, Penny bun, hand of the wood.

2008
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 1: What kind of names are these? Some of these are poisonous,

2009
01:43:53,320 --> 01:43:55,240
Speaker 1: mind you. And I would not have a problem with

2010
01:43:55,320 --> 01:43:59,519
Speaker 1: mushrooms if people didn't sneak it into food, but a

2011
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:02,040
Speaker 1: pizza and people will say to me, pick it off,

2012
01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:05,240
Speaker 1: just pick it off. Anything that has been sullied awes

2013
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:08,800
Speaker 1: by the taste of mushrooms. You can taste it. I

2014
01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:11,640
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Waiters who asked me, are you

2015
01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:13,760
Speaker 1: really allergic to mushrooms? And I say it, and it's

2016
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:16,200
Speaker 1: like I have to say it. Uh, and eggs are

2017
01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:19,200
Speaker 1: gross to compline me. Oh my god, you can just

2018
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:26,679
Speaker 1: an element of that whole dirty mushrooms and mushrooms are great,

2019
01:44:26,720 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 1: and then mushroom, great mushroom. Right now, I'm gonna go

2020
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:34,120
Speaker 1: thank you. Now we know that the lines are drawn. Well,

2021
01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:37,200
Speaker 1: I know this about you because here's the thing. Are

2022
01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:41,080
Speaker 1: you vegetarian pasctarian? Right now? So here's the thing. There's

2023
01:44:41,080 --> 01:44:42,800
Speaker 1: only so many things you can eat, you know what

2024
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:46,519
Speaker 1: I mean, And you don't need eat People in your

2025
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:52,960
Speaker 1: asshole about not eating mushrooms. Yeah, mushroomburger, No I am.

2026
01:44:53,400 --> 01:44:57,240
Speaker 1: I'm so on the fence about mushrooms. But Portobello Bert

2027
01:44:57,280 --> 01:45:04,680
Speaker 1: mushroomburger disgusting, thank you, almost nightmare. There's nothing you can

2028
01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:06,960
Speaker 1: put on it to get rid of that taste in

2029
01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:11,000
Speaker 1: the middle of the texture. It's like I'm biting into

2030
01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:17,360
Speaker 1: an organ a raw from the inside out. Yes, oh boy,

2031
01:45:17,720 --> 01:45:19,519
Speaker 1: But can I tell you some of the best experience

2032
01:45:19,560 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 1: of my laf on mushrooms. We did it together and

2033
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:29,479
Speaker 1: we were in a room for and we talked. You

2034
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:33,000
Speaker 1: went to the park and went into like, oh yeah, child,

2035
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:37,680
Speaker 1: pink energy and her father blue and it didn't she

2036
01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:44,599
Speaker 1: their coats and she was on mushrooms. There was no good.

2037
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:47,640
Speaker 1: Thing is it wasn't your first time doing it, but

2038
01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:49,880
Speaker 1: it was we've done it before, but like a week

2039
01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:52,559
Speaker 1: t version is not a strong and we hate them.

2040
01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:54,240
Speaker 1: But she had already done them, done them, so it's

2041
01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:57,679
Speaker 1: my When I got him, I was hitting me. Walked outside.

2042
01:45:57,720 --> 01:46:01,040
Speaker 1: I literally screamed. My neighbors looked because our outside look

2043
01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:06,160
Speaker 1: like a postcard everything. I was gone, like if she

2044
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:08,280
Speaker 1: hadn't been there to like drag me home from that kid.

2045
01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:11,439
Speaker 1: I was really like it was but it was so good.

2046
01:46:11,439 --> 01:46:14,360
Speaker 1: We worked out so much you just cry, you laugh.

2047
01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 1: We couldn't figure out how to work netflix like and

2048
01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:20,320
Speaker 1: that's beautiful, that's beautiful. We've done asked everything looks like

2049
01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:26,240
Speaker 1: a pain. I recommend I would like to do mushrooms.

2050
01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 1: But the thing is, I'm just nervous. I'm more nervous

2051
01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:30,760
Speaker 1: about mushrooms. They feel more chaotic to me and unpredictable.

2052
01:46:31,640 --> 01:46:33,960
Speaker 1: What it is is, honestly, the first time you do it,

2053
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:36,680
Speaker 1: do it with like sandwich right or something. Because for

2054
01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:39,840
Speaker 1: the first hour, my stomach hurt like ship and I

2055
01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:43,639
Speaker 1: was like no, no, no no, second time when you eat them.

2056
01:46:44,160 --> 01:46:46,120
Speaker 1: I was with her and I'm on the couch in

2057
01:46:46,160 --> 01:46:49,400
Speaker 1: a ball, like, but that's because I do. But then

2058
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 1: the next time I did it, I eate it with

2059
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:54,120
Speaker 1: food and it's fine. But like other than that, it's lovely,

2060
01:46:54,200 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 1: like it's very I only did one sixteenth. Also, I've

2061
01:46:57,080 --> 01:47:00,559
Speaker 1: never done a full Eighth's well me all I needed

2062
01:47:00,680 --> 01:47:03,920
Speaker 1: si yeah, do a sixteen knock out six hours a year, um,

2063
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:06,000
Speaker 1: And then I also would not like when I did it.

2064
01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:08,360
Speaker 1: I did with my boyfriend. He wanted to go to

2065
01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, you want to stay in there, but

2066
01:47:13,479 --> 01:47:15,360
Speaker 1: like you want to make sure it was cold outside,

2067
01:47:15,400 --> 01:47:16,720
Speaker 1: and it was like you know what I mean, you

2068
01:47:16,760 --> 01:47:19,760
Speaker 1: want to make sure you're uncomfortable and freaking out that

2069
01:47:19,880 --> 01:47:22,120
Speaker 1: you can calm down, you can't be around other people.

2070
01:47:22,120 --> 01:47:23,880
Speaker 1: That The way I describe it is it's got to

2071
01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:25,880
Speaker 1: be like a video game level. It's like we're in

2072
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:29,080
Speaker 1: a place that we can explore, but it's finite. Like

2073
01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:31,400
Speaker 1: we went upstate. We had like an upstate house, so

2074
01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:33,600
Speaker 1: it was like there was the yard, there was the

2075
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:35,680
Speaker 1: trees in the backyard, there was a little hammock, there

2076
01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:37,479
Speaker 1: was the house, and that was it. It was big

2077
01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:40,720
Speaker 1: enough that we can explore, but it was still like control.

2078
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:50,559
Speaker 1: Feel like that there it Upstate House. Honey, that's a

2079
01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:52,800
Speaker 1: little Yeah, Okay, we're gonna do it. We can do it.

2080
01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:56,920
Speaker 1: I am obsessed with this. It's an obsession worthy episode.

2081
01:47:57,240 --> 01:48:01,679
Speaker 1: Talked deeply about career stuff and just a personal history

2082
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:06,639
Speaker 1: and got into college personal friendship histories, talked about experience

2083
01:48:06,680 --> 01:48:11,240
Speaker 1: with parents, parental We discussed the immigrant narrative. This is

2084
01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:14,040
Speaker 1: a great episode. Everyone listening, Um, I mean, check out

2085
01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:16,439
Speaker 1: more of Rebecca and Sanya stuff. They're they're two of

2086
01:48:16,439 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 1: our favorite people in the whole city. You guys do

2087
01:48:22,479 --> 01:48:25,640
Speaker 1: every time. Honestly, I was, and I did. I was

2088
01:48:25,680 --> 01:48:28,200
Speaker 1: like I slipped into Julia. I was like, you know, um,

2089
01:48:28,360 --> 01:48:30,120
Speaker 1: Bone and I should be on an episode together at

2090
01:48:30,160 --> 01:48:34,920
Speaker 1: least put all over Because I did that made every

2091
01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:36,680
Speaker 1: panelist was great. But I did think this was the

2092
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:39,479
Speaker 1: three This was honestly the two episodes I did. It

2093
01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:44,599
Speaker 1: was like Regina King episode it was and shout out

2094
01:48:44,680 --> 01:49:00,240
Speaker 1: Katherine Cohen and shout out James. Yeah, the true share

2095
01:49:00,280 --> 01:49:02,760
Speaker 1: we comedian has ever been to Chicago Woods there you

2096
01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:06,000
Speaker 1: go nationwide, you have a lot of options of things

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Speaker 1: free to This has been a Forever Dog production executive

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Speaker 1: Hey there, congratulations, you made it all the way through

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Speaker 1: that episode. We did not think you were going to

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Speaker 1: be able to do it. Yeah, anyway, now that you did,

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Speaker 1: Michael and I have a pretty cool surprise for you.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get high. Come on that joint, baby. It

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Speaker 1: is not what we do. Little Randie is a podcast

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Speaker 1: about books. What it's not about getting stoned. I thought

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Speaker 1: were I thought we had a special treat. You don't

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Speaker 1: even smoke weed, you freak out. But we had a

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Speaker 1: special treat or surprise for the listeners who made it

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Speaker 1: to the end of We're going to play him a

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Speaker 1: clip from our show. Not how would we get everybody high?

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Speaker 1: That doesn't even say I didn't, I'm I don't really

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Speaker 1: listen to podcasts. I didn't. I didn't know. If that

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Speaker 1: they I'm guessing they had the technology to do they don't.

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Speaker 1: That's such a weird now, Colin, We're not gonna get

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Speaker 1: anybody high. We're not getting high. I actually think that

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Speaker 1: you shouldn't be promoting that on this podcast. But if

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Speaker 1: you want to get high at home, sure do it.

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01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:21,160
Speaker 1: But we're not promoting it. But that's neither here nor there.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna play a clip from our podcast with Josh Sharp,

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Speaker 1: so just listen and enjoy that and get high. What

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Speaker 1: And with that in mind, we'd like to take the

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Speaker 1: pressure off of us for a second and introduce you

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Speaker 1: to the reader of today. He's a recent n Why

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Speaker 1: you drop out and we know that means a recipe

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Speaker 1: for success. Oh yes, indeed, dropping out of school and

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Speaker 1: into our hearts. We have young novelist and self proclaimed genius,

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01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:57,639
Speaker 1: Clint Temples, for you enjoy. Hello. My name is I'm

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Speaker 1: Clint Temples, and um this is a piece of short

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Speaker 1: literature that I call the story. There was once a

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Speaker 1: girl with deep brown hair who lived with her grandfather

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Speaker 1: in a small cabin up state. Though her parents, who

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01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:15,720
Speaker 1: had been professors, died eight months before in an automobile

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01:52:15,720 --> 01:52:18,760
Speaker 1: accident while returning from an academic conference on the viability

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01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:21,479
Speaker 1: of the universal basic income, the girl was of a

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01:52:21,479 --> 01:52:24,639
Speaker 1: happy sort, her optimism only fading to melancholia on nights

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Speaker 1: such as these, when the rain shuttering at the windows

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01:52:27,160 --> 01:52:30,000
Speaker 1: made her wish for her mother's arms. Her grandfather, a

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01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:32,559
Speaker 1: wiry man with a great beak of a nose, had

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01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:35,120
Speaker 1: just climbed the old stairs to her attic bedroom when

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01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:37,760
Speaker 1: he heard her quiet sniffles. Is everything all right, he

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01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:40,719
Speaker 1: asked the girl. I'm just having trouble sleeping. She said

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Speaker 1: it's hard sometimes. Yes, I know, said the grandfather. Maybe

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01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:47,479
Speaker 1: a story would help. The little girl nodded, and so

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01:52:47,560 --> 01:52:50,559
Speaker 1: the old man began. There once was a girl with

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01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:52,760
Speaker 1: deep brown hair who lived with her grandfather in a

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01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:55,960
Speaker 1: small cabin up State, though her parents, who had been professors,

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01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:58,559
Speaker 1: died eight months before in an automobile accident while returning

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01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:01,120
Speaker 1: from an academic conference on the ability of the universal

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01:53:01,120 --> 01:53:03,519
Speaker 1: basic income. The girl was of a mostly happy sort,

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01:53:03,560 --> 01:53:06,759
Speaker 1: her optimism only fading to melancholia on nights such as these,

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01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:08,960
Speaker 1: when the rain shuddering at the windows made her wish

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01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:12,080
Speaker 1: for her mother's arms. Her grandfather, a wiry man with

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01:53:12,120 --> 01:53:14,479
Speaker 1: a great beak of a nose, had just climbed the

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01:53:14,479 --> 01:53:16,640
Speaker 1: old stairs to her attic bedroom when he heard her

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01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:19,280
Speaker 1: quiet sniffles. Is everything all right, he asked the girl.

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Speaker 1: I'm just having trouble sleeping. She said, it's hard sometimes, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I know, said the grandfather. Maybe a story would help.

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01:53:26,880 --> 01:53:29,479
Speaker 1: The little girl nodded, and so the old man began.

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01:53:30,360 --> 01:53:32,400
Speaker 1: There once was a girl with deep brown hair who

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01:53:32,479 --> 01:53:34,719
Speaker 1: lived with her grandfather in a small cabin up State,

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01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:37,680
Speaker 1: Though her parents, who had invented the soda stream, were

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Speaker 1: murdered eight months before while leaving up Papa John's pizza

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01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:43,639
Speaker 1: in Bridgeport, Connecticut. The girl was of a mostly happy sort,

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01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:46,400
Speaker 1: her optimism only fading to melancholia on nights such as these,

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01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:48,040
Speaker 1: when the rain shutting at the windows made her wish

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01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:51,000
Speaker 1: for her mother's arms. Her grandfather, a wiry man with

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Speaker 1: a great beak of a nose, had just climbed the

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01:53:53,520 --> 01:53:55,479
Speaker 1: old stairs to her attic bedroom when he heard her

2181
01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:58,040
Speaker 1: quiet sniffles. Is everything all right, he asked the girl.

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01:53:58,360 --> 01:54:01,720
Speaker 1: I'm just having trouble sleeping. She said, it it's hard sometimes. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I know, said the grandfather. Maybe a story would help.

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01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:08,320
Speaker 1: The little girl nodded, and so the old man began.

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01:54:09,479 --> 01:54:11,519
Speaker 1: There was once a girl with deep brown hair who

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01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:13,800
Speaker 1: lived with her grandfather in a small cabin up state.

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01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:16,040
Speaker 1: Though her parents, who had been Professor's, died eight months

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01:54:16,040 --> 01:54:18,759
Speaker 1: before in an automobile accident while returning from an academic

2189
01:54:18,760 --> 01:54:21,160
Speaker 1: conference on the viability of the universal basic income, the

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01:54:21,160 --> 01:54:23,320
Speaker 1: girl was of a mostly a happy sort, her optimism

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01:54:23,320 --> 01:54:25,960
Speaker 1: only fading to melancholia on nights such as these, when

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01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:27,680
Speaker 1: the rain shuttering at the window made her wish for

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01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:31,080
Speaker 1: her mother's arms. Her grandfather, a wiry man with a

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01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:33,640
Speaker 1: great beak of a nose, had just climbed the old

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01:54:33,640 --> 01:54:36,160
Speaker 1: stairs to her attic bedroom when he heard her quiet sniffles.

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01:54:36,520 --> 01:54:38,600
Speaker 1: Is everything all right, he asked the girl. I'm just

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01:54:38,680 --> 01:54:41,520
Speaker 1: having trouble sleeping, She said, it's hard sometimes. I know

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Speaker 1: how that is, said the grandfather with the trouble sleeping.

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Speaker 1: Is that why you sleep on the roof? The little

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Speaker 1: girl asked, yes, that's why. That's why I sleep on

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Speaker 1: the roof. I see, she said, and no other reason.

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Speaker 1: He yelled. Okay, cool, fine, said the girl. Will you

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Speaker 1: tell me a story, said the old man. A story?

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01:54:59,160 --> 01:55:02,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure, right, story. Yeah, oh, I can do that,

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01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:05,360
Speaker 1: And so the old man began. There once was a

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Speaker 1: girl with deep brown hair who lived with her grandfather

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01:55:07,520 --> 01:55:09,440
Speaker 1: in a small cabin up state. Though her parents, who

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01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:11,240
Speaker 1: had been Professor's, died eight months before in an anim

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01:55:11,240 --> 01:55:13,400
Speaker 1: will be accident. While returning from an academic conference on

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01:55:13,400 --> 01:55:16,080
Speaker 1: the viability of the universal baking a seam. Come the girls,

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01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:18,080
Speaker 1: of a mostly happy sort of optimism, only failing to

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01:55:18,080 --> 01:55:19,960
Speaker 1: melancholy on nights such as these, when the rain shuttering

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01:55:19,960 --> 01:55:22,040
Speaker 1: at the windows made her wish for her mother's arms.

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Speaker 1: Her grandfather, a wiry man with a great beak of

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Speaker 1: a nose, long pointed and yellow like a beak. This

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01:55:28,080 --> 01:55:30,920
Speaker 1: nose like a big fucking beak. Her grandfather, the man

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Speaker 1: he just climbed that had just climbed the old stairs

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01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:35,640
Speaker 1: to her attic bedroom when he heard her quiet sniffles.

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01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:38,200
Speaker 1: Is everything all right, he asked the girl. I'm just

2220
01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:41,640
Speaker 1: having trouble sleeping. She said, it's hard sometimes. Yes, I know,

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01:55:41,760 --> 01:55:45,600
Speaker 1: he said, scratching at his big fucking beak nose. Maybe

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Speaker 1: a story would help, sure, Grandpapa, But what's happening to you?

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01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:52,680
Speaker 1: Whatever do you mean? He asked, your nose it's turned

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Speaker 1: into a beak like that of a bird, And sure

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01:55:55,160 --> 01:55:59,240
Speaker 1: enough it had, the nose ossified into a large yellow beak. Squawk,

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01:55:59,360 --> 01:56:02,720
Speaker 1: said the grand The squawk, squawk has feathers, deep blue

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01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:05,440
Speaker 1: and red feathers began to shoot out of his back. Squawk,

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01:56:05,480 --> 01:56:08,760
Speaker 1: he said, squawk, why grandfather, the little girl cried, You're

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01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:11,440
Speaker 1: turning into a bird, a real fucking bird with a

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01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:15,280
Speaker 1: giant fucking beak. It's amazing. His feet now claws. He

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01:56:15,400 --> 01:56:18,040
Speaker 1: reached over and stood atop the girl's wrists. Then he

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01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:21,000
Speaker 1: flapped and flapped until he started to rise over the bed,

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01:56:21,280 --> 01:56:24,400
Speaker 1: clutching the small girl beneath him, his great wings swatting

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01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:27,120
Speaker 1: at the walls. He tilted his feathered crown forward and

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01:56:27,160 --> 01:56:30,320
Speaker 1: burst beak first out of the large attic window. The

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01:56:30,360 --> 01:56:32,320
Speaker 1: girl hung below him. As they made their way up

2237
01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:34,960
Speaker 1: higher and higher, until the house was but a speck

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01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:38,760
Speaker 1: below them. She looked up, thank you, Grandpapa, thank you,

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01:56:39,480 --> 01:56:41,920
Speaker 1: thank you for transforming into a big fucking bird and

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Speaker 1: taking flight. And then the old man let forth a

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01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:48,080
Speaker 1: mighty squawk, spread his wings wide, and the two sword

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01:56:48,120 --> 01:56:51,440
Speaker 1: off into the warm night air, floating and finally free

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01:56:51,960 --> 01:56:55,200
Speaker 1: the end. What a lovely story, said the little girl.

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01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:58,280
Speaker 1: But I must ask was the grandpa in that story,

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01:56:58,360 --> 01:57:00,760
Speaker 1: the one who turned into a bird? Was he supposed

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01:57:00,800 --> 01:57:04,800
Speaker 1: to be you? Me? The old man replied, whatever do

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01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:07,560
Speaker 1: you mean? I mean, said the little girl, Then maybe

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01:57:07,560 --> 01:57:09,840
Speaker 1: it is you who wants to be a bird. I'm

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01:57:09,880 --> 01:57:11,640
Speaker 1: asking a part because I know you like to sleep

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Speaker 1: on the roof. I told you about that already. I

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01:57:13,920 --> 01:57:15,760
Speaker 1: just do that because I like it, no other reason,

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01:57:15,880 --> 01:57:18,280
Speaker 1: he shouted. Well, sure, said the girl. But the way

2253
01:57:18,280 --> 01:57:20,200
Speaker 1: in which you, you know, chew my food up for me,

2254
01:57:20,520 --> 01:57:23,200
Speaker 1: and our winter foods, our winter trips down south, it

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01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:25,200
Speaker 1: just all makes me think that maybe you want to

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01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:27,040
Speaker 1: be a bird for some reason, which, to be honest,

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01:57:27,120 --> 01:57:29,400
Speaker 1: is sort of a ridiculous notion given the your grown man.

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01:57:29,600 --> 01:57:31,400
Speaker 1: And so if you actually want to be a bird, well,

2259
01:57:31,440 --> 01:57:34,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe you're just crazy. Okay, storytime is over,

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01:57:34,840 --> 01:57:36,760
Speaker 1: said the old man. I'm turning off the lights. Now

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01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:39,000
Speaker 1: it's time for bad. He pulled the chain on the

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01:57:39,080 --> 01:57:42,080
Speaker 1: lamp and all was still. I know you have to

2263
01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:43,840
Speaker 1: use the ladder in my room to clime on to

2264
01:57:44,040 --> 01:57:46,440
Speaker 1: climb onto the roof, Grandpa, said the little girl. So

2265
01:57:46,640 --> 01:57:48,560
Speaker 1: you can turn the lights back on and get it

2266
01:57:48,600 --> 01:57:50,440
Speaker 1: if you want. Okay, I'll turn them on just because

2267
01:57:50,440 --> 01:57:51,840
Speaker 1: I want to turn them on. How about that, said

2268
01:57:51,840 --> 01:57:54,000
Speaker 1: the old man, fumbling for the chain. There we go

2269
01:57:54,160 --> 01:57:56,080
Speaker 1: there on the lights are on. Oh and look it's

2270
01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:58,000
Speaker 1: the ladder. I need to get on the roof. You know.

2271
01:57:58,040 --> 01:57:59,560
Speaker 1: I better go up there to check on some of

2272
01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:02,040
Speaker 1: the tie and the roofing and other things. Not to sleep,

2273
01:58:02,160 --> 01:58:03,920
Speaker 1: just to you know, check it out. I just you

2274
01:58:03,960 --> 01:58:05,840
Speaker 1: won't mind turning the lights off once I'm up there,

2275
01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:08,720
Speaker 1: you know, just in case I take a while. No, Grandpapa,

2276
01:58:08,760 --> 01:58:11,280
Speaker 1: of course, not all right, he said. Here I go

2277
01:58:11,680 --> 01:58:14,280
Speaker 1: up the ladder to check on the tiles. Night night.

2278
01:58:14,320 --> 01:58:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm almost to the top, Shutting the hatch behind him.

2279
01:58:17,120 --> 01:58:19,240
Speaker 1: The old man sat down on the roof, pulled his

2280
01:58:19,280 --> 01:58:21,560
Speaker 1: knees to his chest, then looked up to the sky

2281
01:58:21,640 --> 01:58:24,880
Speaker 1: and quietly sobbed. A pigeon landed on his shoulder, and

2282
01:58:24,920 --> 01:58:27,200
Speaker 1: the man gently scooped the bird in his palms and

2283
01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:30,360
Speaker 1: pulled it close. Not today, he whispered, It's not running

2284
01:58:30,360 --> 01:58:33,760
Speaker 1: down his face. Maybe someday, but not today the end.

2285
01:58:34,640 --> 01:58:37,520
Speaker 1: What a sad story, said the little girl. I feel

2286
01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:39,520
Speaker 1: sad for the man in that story who told that

2287
01:58:39,560 --> 01:58:42,440
Speaker 1: other story, the man who wanted to be a bird. Yes,

2288
01:58:42,480 --> 01:58:45,040
Speaker 1: the old man replied, but sometimes it is the sad

2289
01:58:45,040 --> 01:58:47,360
Speaker 1: stories that give us comfort, that remind us of how

2290
01:58:47,680 --> 01:58:50,120
Speaker 1: lucky we are to have what we have. Your parents

2291
01:58:50,160 --> 01:58:52,200
Speaker 1: left you with a great fortune, and you should take

2292
01:58:52,240 --> 01:58:55,120
Speaker 1: solace in that. She nodded, Yes, but I still miss

2293
01:58:55,200 --> 01:58:58,440
Speaker 1: mom and pop. She paused, Grandpa, do you think they'll

2294
01:58:58,440 --> 01:59:00,360
Speaker 1: ever find who murdered my parents? And front of that

2295
01:59:00,400 --> 01:59:04,000
Speaker 1: Papa John's Pizza and Bridgeport, Connecticut. The grandfather thought for

2296
01:59:04,040 --> 01:59:06,600
Speaker 1: a moment, no, I'm almost certain they will not. He

2297
01:59:06,720 --> 01:59:10,040
Speaker 1: drew in a labored breath. I was very careful. The

2298
01:59:10,040 --> 01:59:12,120
Speaker 1: girl looked up at him. You were what I said,

2299
01:59:12,280 --> 01:59:14,760
Speaker 1: I was careful. He stood up over her bed. And

2300
01:59:14,800 --> 01:59:17,320
Speaker 1: what's more, I'm not like the old man in that story,

2301
01:59:17,400 --> 01:59:19,880
Speaker 1: pretending to be something he's not. It's time you know

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01:59:19,920 --> 01:59:22,600
Speaker 1: who I really am, little girl. I murdered your parents

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Speaker 1: In one quick motion, he removed the knife from his

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Speaker 1: Let me hear you squawk. Stop, stop, stop, The little

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry if I gave you a fright, said the

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Speaker 1: old man, catching himself. I just thought a little adventure

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Speaker 1: story might take your mind off things. Yes, but a

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Speaker 1: you old kuk? And what was all that bird stuff?

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Speaker 1: You're right you're right, the old man replied, standing up

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Speaker 1: He backed out of the room. Good night, It won't

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Speaker 1: I don't get it, said the little girl. Come to

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