WEBVTT - Vince McMahon Vice Doc

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition

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<v Speaker 1>of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. Ready, Ready,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get it all. How's it going to everybody? Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Alvarez here on Wrestling Observer Live. We are here every

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<v Speaker 1>day Monday through Friday. Now Pacific three Eastern, Sunday three Pacific,

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<v Speaker 1>sixth Eastern. Well it's Tuesday here on this show. I

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot to talk about here today. Only Row

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<v Speaker 1>was last night. Yeah, we'll do the Raw Report and

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<v Speaker 1>everything like that, but yeah, we gotta talking about old

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<v Speaker 1>Vince McMahon man. What timing for that Vice documentary tonight?

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<v Speaker 1>Dave and I are on it. They've been promoting it

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<v Speaker 1>like crazy. It airs on Vice TV at nine o'clock

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<v Speaker 1>midnight and three a m. Eastern. So depending on when

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<v Speaker 1>you get a chance to watch any of these shows

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<v Speaker 1>on Vice, if you're on the West coast, nine and midnight,

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<v Speaker 1>it maybe six o'clock, so three times that show is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna air tonight on Vice. I'm on it, Dave's on it,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw the trailer. Vince Russo's on it, Jim Cornett,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's two hour show. Make sure you check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Tonight and man Well Street Journal today comes out with

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<v Speaker 1>another article on Vince McMahon and allegations and claims by Vince.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna talk about that here today on the

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<v Speaker 1>show and all the other news as well. A w

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<v Speaker 1>big production higher yesterday. A lot of people are talking

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<v Speaker 1>about we've got w W announcing new tour dates. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got the King and Queen of the Ring have been

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<v Speaker 1>trademarked by w W E SmackDown radios. From Friday, the

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<v Speaker 1>show did great rampage numbers from Friday. The show did

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<v Speaker 1>a little better than it normally does, but a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people didn't watch that. John Moxley takesha match. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's on you, So we'll talk about that, and of

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<v Speaker 1>course the raw recap as well. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>have one, now, don't we don't also forget that Tonight

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<v Speaker 1>at nine midnight and three am, it is the Nine

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<v Speaker 1>Lives of Vince McMahon on Vice TV. I'm on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>Dave's on the show. Others are on the show as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, I hope, I hope that he's had his

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<v Speaker 1>nine and not eight, because he seems to think he's

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<v Speaker 1>only at eight. Because what a coincidence. You know, this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>this Vice documentary was scheduled to air, uh several weeks

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<v Speaker 1>ago and it just happened to be scheduled for a

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<v Speaker 1>night where a W had been moved to Tuesday. So

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<v Speaker 1>we had a W and n X T on a

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday night, and this Vice show was going to run

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<v Speaker 1>head to head and I was like, Man, no one's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna watch this show. So they pulled it from that

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<v Speaker 1>date and they booked it here for this date. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they knew that there was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a Wall Street Journal article coming out today or

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<v Speaker 1>if it was just an amazing coincidence that the day

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<v Speaker 1>that this thing was scheduled to air, we got a

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<v Speaker 1>new Wall Street Journal article. But what incredible timing. Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>Wall Street Journal published an article revealing McMahon's attorney received

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<v Speaker 1>a demand letter from Rita Chatterton's lawyer on November three,

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<v Speaker 1>asking for eleven points seven five million in damages. Jatterton,

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<v Speaker 1>who was the first female referee in w w E history,

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<v Speaker 1>publicly accute as to McMahon of raping her in the

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<v Speaker 1>back of a limo November in New York in nineteen six.

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<v Speaker 1>Also November, McMahon's attorney received an email from a lawyer

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<v Speaker 1>from a former SPA manager who says that McMahon assaulted

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<v Speaker 1>her at a California result in twenty eleven. The incident

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<v Speaker 1>had not been reported in the media until now let

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<v Speaker 1>her from chart. Chatterton's lawyer states Chatterton quote has suffered

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<v Speaker 1>years of ongoing depression, substance abuse, disordered eating, lost income,

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<v Speaker 1>and overall a decreased quality of life following the mcmann's

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<v Speaker 1>alleged rape. And there's more here and talks about the

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<v Speaker 1>SPA manager told her husband about the incident. Her husband

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<v Speaker 1>drove to a w W event with a baseball bat

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<v Speaker 1>try to confront Mr McMahon but was turned away. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to make light of this, but what like

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<v Speaker 1>he showed up at the door with a bat and

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<v Speaker 1>asked to see Vince and they turned him away. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what this sounds like. Here. The woman's lawyer has been

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<v Speaker 1>in touch with Mr McMahon's attorney since at least July.

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<v Speaker 1>McMahon is told people he refuses to pay settlements to

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<v Speaker 1>Chatterton or the SPA manager. So uh, And there's more

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<v Speaker 1>here about the the past, and then we have this

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<v Speaker 1>which everyone's uh talking about today. Despite his retirement, mcaman

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<v Speaker 1>remains w w e's majority shareholder. In the Wall Street

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<v Speaker 1>Journal story that was published today, it has noted that

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<v Speaker 1>McMahon has told people that he quote intends to make

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<v Speaker 1>a comeback to w w E. McMahon feels that he

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<v Speaker 1>received quote bad advice from people close to him and

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<v Speaker 1>thinks the allegations would have blown over if he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>step down. Well, these two new allegations suggests that wouldn't happen,

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what he thinks. And then it was on

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<v Speaker 1>and on. Now, obviously there's a lot of fans on

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<v Speaker 1>social media today they're freaking out about this, and there

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<v Speaker 1>are certainly people within w w E that certainly we're

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<v Speaker 1>not expecting nor we're happy to hear this, this article

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<v Speaker 1>from the Wall Street Journal. And I'm not gonna sit

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<v Speaker 1>here and tell you anything because I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>is going to or could happen. But I will say this,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's gonna be as easy as Vince going.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm ready to come back. Now, I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>the office on Monday. The official word, if you guys remember,

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<v Speaker 1>was I don't even have the tweet in front of me,

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<v Speaker 1>but Vince. Vince tweeted something like, you know, I'm old

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's time to go, or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, officially they talked about how he

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<v Speaker 1>had stepped down or whatever, but I seem to recall

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<v Speaker 1>that that the reason that he voluntarily stepped down was

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<v Speaker 1>it if he hadn't voluntarily stepped down, it was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be done in a different manner. And so the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, he could just come back. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying he's never going to be back. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>it's not possible, but he can have all of the

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<v Speaker 1>intentions that he wants, and uh, there's a lot that

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<v Speaker 1>would have to happen for him to just come back.

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<v Speaker 1>So we shall see what happens. Yeah, because remember how

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing started with the Wall Street Journal. It

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<v Speaker 1>was something that was sent by you know, it's something

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<v Speaker 1>sent to a board of director, and you know, there

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<v Speaker 1>we have this whole thing about the independent investigation that

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<v Speaker 1>was going to look at the entirety of the company

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<v Speaker 1>and see what the culture was and see all that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of stuff, you know, and we haven't heard anything

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<v Speaker 1>about any of that stuff, any changes that are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be made, anything like that. So you would figure

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<v Speaker 1>if even they've quietly done what they've needed to do

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<v Speaker 1>and everything's over with now and we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>hear about any changes, or they may change as quietly.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever it is, you go ahead and you upset the

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<v Speaker 1>apple cart by varying Vince McMahon back in if he

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<v Speaker 1>tries to force himself back in. And again, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how this works as far as him being the

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<v Speaker 1>majority stockholder and how he can leverage that to try

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<v Speaker 1>to take over the company again, and what that would

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<v Speaker 1>set off as far as the you know, securities and

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<v Speaker 1>Exchange Commission and other stockholders and all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I do know is that I who knows

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<v Speaker 1>if this What I know is there are now what

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<v Speaker 1>six seven allegations against Vince McMahon for that have been

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<v Speaker 1>settled that we know of from O. Six oh eight

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand eighteen and then this one in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty two. The reader Chatterton's story has been out

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<v Speaker 1>there for a long time. There is these ans of

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<v Speaker 1>bar story in Florida that ended up not going anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and six, of groping story, and a

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<v Speaker 1>story where a somebody that works at a spa says

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<v Speaker 1>did he sent pictures? And as we found out later on,

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<v Speaker 1>that is part of his m O and other n

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<v Speaker 1>d a's that have apparently been signed. That's something he's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>So now we have another situation with a spot in

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<v Speaker 1>California for all this happened. I mean, he can talk

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<v Speaker 1>about trying to get himself back and all he wants

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<v Speaker 1>he can. He may be right, he may be absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you saw what the stock price did. Maybe people

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have taken it seriously, maybe it would have blown over.

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<v Speaker 1>But at this point in the game, you're gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and bring back Vince McMahon. The thought of him

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<v Speaker 1>coming back after all of this stuff, when there's still

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that could very well be out there, is just insanity. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think people need to remember as well. Did he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't just step down to do allegations. He stepped down

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<v Speaker 1>because he had used essentially company money for teen page

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<v Speaker 1>six million women. So so listen here. You know, somebody

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<v Speaker 1>asked me this question a few months ago. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a great question. This was after Vince had been gone

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<v Speaker 1>for a while, and they were like, what is worse

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<v Speaker 1>with Vince gone? Like, you know, before Vince stepped down,

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<v Speaker 1>the the fear was a w w Without Vince McMahon,

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<v Speaker 1>the stock's gonna create. You know, the thing's just gonna well,

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<v Speaker 1>what happened when he left was it didn't create her.

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<v Speaker 1>And in fact, if you look at every single solitary

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of business and how much money they're making and

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<v Speaker 1>their house show business and the ratings and blah blah blah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I realized they had a bad quarter a little while ago,

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<v Speaker 1>But in general, what is worse now then when he

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<v Speaker 1>was around. If it were a situation where he left

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<v Speaker 1>and things really did crater and then he wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>come back, yeah, I can see them going, well, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a publicly traded company, we have a requirement

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<v Speaker 1>to our stockhold, etcetera. But I mean, none of that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, in a lot of ways, virtually everything is

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<v Speaker 1>better now with him gone. So it's gonna be pretty

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<v Speaker 1>tough to go. Hey, you know, he wants to come back.

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<v Speaker 1>I got more allegations against him, use company money, But hey,

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to come back, let's do it. Back in

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<v Speaker 1>a moment Observer Live Back in the show, Brian Elbare

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<v Speaker 1>is here wrestling Observer Alive mixambur Viv, also wrestling Observer

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<v Speaker 1>dot Com. In another kind of related story, a double

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<v Speaker 1>views hired Michael Mansuriy w w E is former vice

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<v Speaker 1>president of Global Global TV Production to be their new

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<v Speaker 1>senior Vice President co executive producer her fire. The hiring

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<v Speaker 1>first reporter by p w Insider, who said that he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna begin his job tonight. Specific job responsibilities not reported.

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<v Speaker 1>He was most recently the Senior VP Executive Producer of

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<v Speaker 1>Global Production for one the m A organization. For that,

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<v Speaker 1>he was an executive producer for The Pat McAfee Show.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it was with the w w E for

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<v Speaker 1>eleven years beginning in two thousand nine, left on his

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<v Speaker 1>own accord in While his name is likely not familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with most fans, his work as a director of record

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<v Speaker 1>from many w w E pay per view and TV

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<v Speaker 1>shows during his time. Uh they are so uh. P

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<v Speaker 1>w Insider, when they first broke the story of him leaving,

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<v Speaker 1>said he was seen by some of his eventual successor

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<v Speaker 1>to Kevin Dunn was seen as a big part of

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<v Speaker 1>the Triple H regime. So there's a there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to say here. So first off, you know, from talking

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<v Speaker 1>to two people in w w E in production, this

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<v Speaker 1>bloke was eight in his job, and uh, you know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of there are people there in production. They

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<v Speaker 1>think that a W product production is just like atrocious.

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<v Speaker 1>They think it's absolutely positively atrocious. And I often mentioned, Bro,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd rather watch whatever atrocious production they had than this

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<v Speaker 1>zooming and camera cutting and all this other rigmarole. But

0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:22.240
<v Speaker 1>that's what they say. Their production is horrible. And so

0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.960
<v Speaker 1>when when man sorry got signed there like, oh my god,

0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:30.120
<v Speaker 1>what a signing. This is a gigantic, gigantic signing for

0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:32.000
<v Speaker 1>a w they said, because this guy is so good

0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:35.640
<v Speaker 1>at his job. Now here's there's a few questions about

0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:39.520
<v Speaker 1>this that that that should be asked. So and I

0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:43.320
<v Speaker 1>don't know the answers to him. But this guy worked

0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:49.080
<v Speaker 1>for W W E for eleven years and he was

0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:52.960
<v Speaker 1>thought to be next in line for Kevin Dunn's role.

0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:56.120
<v Speaker 1>He was thought to be one of the Triple H guys.

0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:58.800
<v Speaker 1>When Kevin Dunn is gone, when Triple H is in,

0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:01.600
<v Speaker 1>when Vince is gone, he he's gonna he's gonna rise

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<v Speaker 1>to that position. So in in or whatever, he quit

0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:09.120
<v Speaker 1>and uh, he went to do all of these other things.

0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:13.360
<v Speaker 1>So he's been gone for a while. And then in

0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:17.520
<v Speaker 1>the summer of two, everything that happened with Vince happened,

0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:22.400
<v Speaker 1>and UH and Vince was removed from his position, and

0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:26.440
<v Speaker 1>Triple H started bringing all of his guys into UH

0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:30.960
<v Speaker 1>certain positions and he started bringing back wrestlers at Vince

0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:34.560
<v Speaker 1>saw nothing in that he did, and he's he's UH,

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<v Speaker 1>he's starting to create his his his core group. And

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<v Speaker 1>here we are. It is December and Michael Mansouri decided,

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<v Speaker 1>I am not going back to w W E. I

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<v Speaker 1>am not going back to work under Triple H. I

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<v Speaker 1>am going to go to a W. And a lot

0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:58.480
<v Speaker 1>of people have asked a question as to whai. The

0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:01.520
<v Speaker 1>answer may be as simple as well, it doesn't look

0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:04.000
<v Speaker 1>like Kevin Dunn's going anywhere anytime soon, so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to work under this guy. Could just be that,

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<v Speaker 1>or I mean, you know, there could be there could

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<v Speaker 1>be a lot of things going on here. But in general,

0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:16.280
<v Speaker 1>the feeling is is a huge positive for a W.

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<v Speaker 1>But what it means, I don't know. I don't know

0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:22.680
<v Speaker 1>what it means. I mean, there's a lot, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot that goes into production. Everybody. It's not just pushing

0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:28.240
<v Speaker 1>a button. Are we talking like he's gonna he's gonna go?

0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:29.880
<v Speaker 1>You know what? You need a different set for all

0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:33.240
<v Speaker 1>these pay per views revolution there should be like whatever,

0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:36.160
<v Speaker 1>barbed wire all over the place, you know, the Vegas,

0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I want chips everywhere. You know. W w has all

0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:41.160
<v Speaker 1>these special sets. Could be something like that. Could be

0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:44.200
<v Speaker 1>he wants more zooming, could be he wants this or

0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:46.480
<v Speaker 1>that lighting. I don't know what he's gonna do. But

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<v Speaker 1>all I know is I don't think you just see

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<v Speaker 1>massive changes tonight. I think that it will take a

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<v Speaker 1>while to uh to get his vision instated. But we'll see. Yeah,

0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:01.560
<v Speaker 1>well you see, know they got a second TV show

0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:04.680
<v Speaker 1>starting soon, you know, and I know he's got probably

0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:06.720
<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with that, but you're gonna have to,

0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:10.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, stand out your resources. And when you have

0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:12.400
<v Speaker 1>somebody like this out on the market and you're able

0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:14.480
<v Speaker 1>to grab him, you grab him. That's what you do,

0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.159
<v Speaker 1>you know. But who knows what the deal was with

0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:19.679
<v Speaker 1>w w E. Maybe he was not called back to

0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.600
<v Speaker 1>take over for Kevin Dunn. Maybe he was called back

0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:25.440
<v Speaker 1>and said no, I kind of like this guy's spirit.

0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:28.119
<v Speaker 1>You know, he left on his own from w w

0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:30.840
<v Speaker 1>E and then went and got a job. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you saw you hear what Brian told you about his

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<v Speaker 1>title and what he did for that company, and yes,

0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Brian's not lying with you to you at all. People

0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:42.040
<v Speaker 1>inside w w E who are still there ty hype

0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:44.520
<v Speaker 1>this guy up immensely and said it was going to

0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:48.280
<v Speaker 1>be a great win for a e W. So obviously

0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:50.520
<v Speaker 1>it's a big deal. But he went did the Pat

0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:54.080
<v Speaker 1>McAfee show, he went decompressed probably for a while when

0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:56.000
<v Speaker 1>did something that he liked to do, and then took

0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:59.000
<v Speaker 1>on a new challenge with One Singapore and now he's

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<v Speaker 1>coming back here to do this. Look I again, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going off of what other people are saying about it,

0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:07.520
<v Speaker 1>and they are extremely excited. There have been times with

0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:11.600
<v Speaker 1>AWS production I have been very frustrated. There are times

0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:14.280
<v Speaker 1>where it's great. You know that it looks like nitro

0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:17.760
<v Speaker 1>and it feels like nitro. But you know what w

0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:19.840
<v Speaker 1>w E. The one thing you can't take away from

0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:22.639
<v Speaker 1>is their production. And if somebody can bring some of

0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:25.840
<v Speaker 1>the aesthetic that's good about w w E over to

0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:29.560
<v Speaker 1>a W not a bad thing. How much you say

0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:31.640
<v Speaker 1>in the ratings this week. Although SmackDown did a really

0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:35.560
<v Speaker 1>good number two point three million viewers SmackDown on Friday,

0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:39.000
<v Speaker 1>obviously this was you know, if some of this might

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<v Speaker 1>actually be, I'd have to go back and chart it.

0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:45.760
<v Speaker 1>But last week they were on FS one and man

0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:49.320
<v Speaker 1>if I had a stock, it did very It did

0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:53.639
<v Speaker 1>uh nine hundreds something thousand on FS one in the

0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:56.320
<v Speaker 1>eighteen and forty nine was not that great. So they're

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<v Speaker 1>actually up a hundred and fifty five point six percent

0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:00.840
<v Speaker 1>this week because they went for so man if I

0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:05.000
<v Speaker 1>had a stock this week, who man oh man. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>eight point five seven up one hundred and twenty eight

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<v Speaker 1>percent from last week. So basically my question is that

0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:16.800
<v Speaker 1>I'd have to go back. But you know, when they

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<v Speaker 1>moved FS one, their viewership is cut in half every

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<v Speaker 1>time or more, and so I wonder if if every

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<v Speaker 1>time when they come back from FS one they do

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<v Speaker 1>a better than usual number because half the people didn't

0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:32.720
<v Speaker 1>watch the show the previous week and tune in to

0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:36.160
<v Speaker 1>find out what they missed, perhaps in larger numbers. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I did a very good number, and uh, I have

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<v Speaker 1>no other explanation because as a show, just show it

0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:46.600
<v Speaker 1>was fine. And then Rampage did four hundred and fifty

0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:50.760
<v Speaker 1>seven thousand viewers, which is up over from the week prior.

0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:55.760
<v Speaker 1>How his total audience since October one, although Um, the

0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:58.800
<v Speaker 1>demo was not great. It was a point one one,

0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:02.800
<v Speaker 1>and it was up from the previous week's record low,

0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:08.240
<v Speaker 1>but still it's a point one one, which is not

0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:12.040
<v Speaker 1>a great demo. But they were up in viewership and

0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:14.480
<v Speaker 1>it was a better show. So I guess we'll see

0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:18.159
<v Speaker 1>what happens is coming Friday on Rampage if people liked

0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:20.040
<v Speaker 1>it and decide they're gonna give another chance this week.

0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:23.960
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know it they can put as many

0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:25.920
<v Speaker 1>people on it as they want to. I know Tony's

0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:29.880
<v Speaker 1>talking about reinvigorating it again, but it's still tough on

0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Friday nights with the market that you have, what your

0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:36.359
<v Speaker 1>demo is, and what your competition is, and the time

0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:40.400
<v Speaker 1>slot that you're on again, I don't know you can

0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:43.399
<v Speaker 1>pop it even for a couple of weeks. Maybe, but

0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if consistently there's an answer for the

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<v Speaker 1>time slot. And then finally they had the announcement that

0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:58.160
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be touring June and July three. On Wednesday, June,

0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:01.879
<v Speaker 1>w w E is heading you Liverpool. Thursday, they'll be

0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:06.639
<v Speaker 1>in Sheffield. The nine also in uh in Dublin Islands,

0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:09.440
<v Speaker 1>so they're doing a split crew the Raw crew will

0:21:09.440 --> 0:21:14.040
<v Speaker 1>be in Sheffield and the SmackDown Crew in Dublin, Newcastle

0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Friday June and uh Sunday Age Life. Second, they will

0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:23.520
<v Speaker 1>be in Cardiff, Wales again where hopefully Drew mciner could

0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:28.119
<v Speaker 1>get a big victory. This time they're going back. And

0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:31.320
<v Speaker 1>then they also announced the King and Queen of the Ring,

0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:36.600
<v Speaker 1>which was I don't know what like. Obviously they have

0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:38.879
<v Speaker 1>trademarked King of the Ring and probably Queen of the

0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Ring as well, but now they have trademarked w w

0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:46.920
<v Speaker 1>E King and Queen of the Ring, so barely that's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if they do a King of the Ring

0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:50.480
<v Speaker 1>pay per view, it will no longer be the King

0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:52.280
<v Speaker 1>of the Ring pay per view with a Queen of

0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:57.680
<v Speaker 1>the Ring tournament. It will be King and Queen of

0:21:57.720 --> 0:22:01.760
<v Speaker 1>the Ring. So there you go excited for that. Everyone.

0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Did I lose Mike? I think I did his his

0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:08.359
<v Speaker 1>his house was noisy and then suddenly got very quiet,

0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:14.160
<v Speaker 1>very peaceful. I think that means that he likely dropped. Alright,

0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:15.960
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do a row when we come back from

0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:18.360
<v Speaker 1>the break, but in the meantime I will look through

0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:21.800
<v Speaker 1>some of the feedback and see what people are saying

0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:25.400
<v Speaker 1>here four to five seven eight zero seven, five six

0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:27.879
<v Speaker 1>six is the phone number for text messages. Four to

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<v Speaker 1>five seven eight zero seven five six six. Remember that

0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:35.639
<v Speaker 1>short time when he and w W is having words

0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:38.760
<v Speaker 1>and graphics appear on the screen while people cut promos.

0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:40.719
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully that doesn't go to a W. I don't remember that.

0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:43.880
<v Speaker 1>What was that? I remember every now and then somebody

0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:45.920
<v Speaker 1>would kind of promo. There be creepy music in the

0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:49.360
<v Speaker 1>background which was goofy, but there were words and graphics

0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:53.120
<v Speaker 1>on the screen. I mean, I would like to see

0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:56.679
<v Speaker 1>when people are interviewed, like their names appear on the screen.

0:22:57.040 --> 0:23:01.560
<v Speaker 1>I think there should be more of that. But remember

0:23:01.600 --> 0:23:04.280
<v Speaker 1>that one. If you had to give a percentage as

0:23:04.320 --> 0:23:06.320
<v Speaker 1>to the chance of Vince returns, what would it be.

0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea, but I mean it would be low.

0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:14.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, honestly, I'd say less than ten percent. Now,

0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:18.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I suppose that could change, but I find

0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:21.840
<v Speaker 1>this to be quite unlikely for a lot of reasons,

0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:27.280
<v Speaker 1>but who knows. Wright Another news, congrats on scoring the

0:23:27.320 --> 0:23:29.840
<v Speaker 1>second goal in the semifinals of the World Cup. Thank you.

0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:34.280
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that I have a more talented man than

0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:42.880
<v Speaker 1>people are aware. This person here says, uh, no joke.

0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh God, people talk about this Undertaker thing. Now is

0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:49.840
<v Speaker 1>not the day to argue with me about whether Undertaker

0:23:49.960 --> 0:23:52.600
<v Speaker 1>supernatural voodoo in the nineties was cool or not. Now

0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:54.280
<v Speaker 1>it's not the day. Back in a moment with a

0:23:54.359 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 1>raw reporting morebs, They're alive. You're right back in the show.

0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Brin Elbert is here Wrestling Observer live chat getting natural

0:24:26.640 --> 0:24:30.080
<v Speaker 1>except for me, gets done the chats. Just Undertaker thing. Listen,

0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:32.359
<v Speaker 1>he's a Hall of famer. Everybody is a Hall of famer.

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:37.879
<v Speaker 1>But I keep asking people, show me times when the

0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:43.200
<v Speaker 1>stupid voodoo drew money, Like the best anyone has ever

0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:47.320
<v Speaker 1>come up with was the Ministry of Darkness, when the

0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:51.640
<v Speaker 1>entire feud was built around Steve Austin and Vince McMahon

0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:55.240
<v Speaker 1>and the well no wonder that drew. You could have

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:57.359
<v Speaker 1>you literally could have done a storyline and put Scotty

0:24:57.400 --> 0:24:59.120
<v Speaker 1>too Hottie in that position. It would have done fine

0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:01.720
<v Speaker 1>because you were working with Steve Aouston and Vince McMahon.

0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:07.639
<v Speaker 1>Outside of that, Find me one time what magic and

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:11.800
<v Speaker 1>voodoo has drawn in professional wrestling. Wait, Brian, there was,

0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:15.000
<v Speaker 1>there was Papa Shano and uh An Ultimate Warrior died,

0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:18.680
<v Speaker 1>there was Ultimate Warrior, and whole Hogan, seeing the reflection

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:22.640
<v Speaker 1>in the mirror, died. I don't want even think any

0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:27.960
<v Speaker 1>more than that. Alright, let's do the raw report. I

0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:32.159
<v Speaker 1>can't take anymore losing my mind, all right. So it

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:38.160
<v Speaker 1>opened up with Alex and Bailey. What in God's name

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 1>is going on with Alexa Bliss? Am I the only

0:25:41.080 --> 0:25:43.480
<v Speaker 1>one you know? Am I the old? Now I'm gonna

0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:50.720
<v Speaker 1>talking about storyline in the ring? Man, Dude, they missed

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:53.159
<v Speaker 1>one spot after another in the middle of this match.

0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:56.159
<v Speaker 1>Then she tried a Hurricane Ronna and for some reason

0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:58.800
<v Speaker 1>took a bump on the back of her head, and

0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:01.720
<v Speaker 1>then it was just this match was not good and

0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:05.520
<v Speaker 1>she looks like she doesn't care, which kind of is

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:07.760
<v Speaker 1>half the storyline is that she doesn't care. She's not

0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:10.680
<v Speaker 1>into it. But like when when you're when you're doing

0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:13.200
<v Speaker 1>so good at not caring that I don't believe you care.

0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:17.600
<v Speaker 1>There's a problem here, right, Well, I thought this match

0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:21.399
<v Speaker 1>was bad and then she she won, so she's the

0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:23.960
<v Speaker 1>number one contender, and then she had to stare down

0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:27.800
<v Speaker 1>with Bianca and then grabbed her for the Sister Abigail.

0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:32.080
<v Speaker 1>But then, uh, I don't even know what happened. Uh,

0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:34.760
<v Speaker 1>and then she just walks away with a simple flashed.

0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm really having flashbacks to this stuff. Do you

0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:42.800
<v Speaker 1>know what? Never drew Alexa Bliss is the female fiend.

0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:48.240
<v Speaker 1>Jeffer get one of those uh big oversized jack in

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:51.119
<v Speaker 1>the boxes for the playroom. I got one in the

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:54.520
<v Speaker 1>corner of the studio now, but I'll never forget the

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:57.719
<v Speaker 1>first day that Paisley spun that jack in the box

0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:00.440
<v Speaker 1>and I got the camera and I did didn't tell

0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:03.400
<v Speaker 1>her what was gonna happen. Then the same thing with Hanolean.

0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:07.359
<v Speaker 1>It was awesome. Honley's reaction was actually great because she's

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:09.320
<v Speaker 1>turning the thing and looking at it and all of

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:11.680
<v Speaker 1>a sudden thing pops out and at first you just jumped,

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:14.879
<v Speaker 1>and then she looks at me. She just goes, WHOA.

0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 1>She was already do it again. Then alph Academy promo

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:26.200
<v Speaker 1>which stead of a match with Chad Gable and aj Styles,

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 1>which came up next when nine minutes and you'll never

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:33.600
<v Speaker 1>guess it was really good, but it only went nine minutes.

0:27:34.240 --> 0:27:37.680
<v Speaker 1>And then Styles, Uh, this is something I've been doing lately.

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 1>Idn't if it's just me or if it's just this week. No,

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 1>I am in tune with the current product. Don't tell

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:46.119
<v Speaker 1>me that Fibrograss. I'll ban you. I will ban you, Okay.

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I will ban you if you act like I'm some

0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:51.879
<v Speaker 1>weird aberration and I'm the only guy that doesn't like

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Alexa Bliss is the female fiend. Okay, I will ban you.

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:59.200
<v Speaker 1>If you like it, that's fine, but do not make

0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:02.480
<v Speaker 1>this overall thing that I'm some weird old man that

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 1>doesn't get it. Okay, don't do it. Do you understand

0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:11.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to hear it. I don't want to

0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 1>hear it, and I don't like to drop the band

0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:16.359
<v Speaker 1>hammer on the chat. But I looked up at the

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:23.960
<v Speaker 1>wrong time, Okay, because you empowering DJ. Yeah. Now, last

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:25.640
<v Speaker 1>couple of shows, I don't know what's up, but I've

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:29.880
<v Speaker 1>seen this finish in several matches where they're just doing

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:32.199
<v Speaker 1>a match and then it's over. There's not like a

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 1>real build to it or anything like that. They did

0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:37.920
<v Speaker 1>it with a brown Breaker on Sunday. Then we had

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 1>it here. They're just wrestling. Now of a sudden, he

0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 1>just grabs him in his move and pins him. I

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, added away too, early. I want to

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 1>be longer, but it was a good Walt lasted. Then

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 1>we had a long Johnny Gargano Dexter Loomising on the show,

0:28:55.240 --> 0:29:00.680
<v Speaker 1>which was absolutely not good. Now I know what some

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 1>of you were gonna say, Oh, Vince must be back.

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 1>This is the exact kind of thing you would do. No,

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 1>there's a massive difference. Is this as dumb as something

0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 1>that Vince would do? Yes? But what's the big difference.

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 1>The big difference, which I can't tell the positive or

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 1>negative at this point, is it's still going The story

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:26.440
<v Speaker 1>has been going on for like eight weeks. I'm sick

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 1>of it and it won't end. Got a Louis Baton

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 1>bag on a pole match next week. Vince would do

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:39.000
<v Speaker 1>stupid things and it would just end. Not this. They're

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 1>determined to play out this story. How much money is

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 1>in the bag? Have we determined that? Well, I'll get

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:47.600
<v Speaker 1>to that. We had judgment Davis accurre toes out in

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 1>the street profits fifteen minutes, very very good match. Everybody

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 1>looked good. Is how is awesome? Thank god they're finally

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:57.000
<v Speaker 1>doing something with tiawa here. And of course in the

0:29:57.160 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 1>end he got pinned by Dom who is the biggest

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 1>heell on this show by Miles, by Miles. This guy

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 1>gets in the ring and he's hated every time, and

0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 1>he got the pit and these people were so angry.

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, the Johnny Gargano here's where we are in

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:22.720
<v Speaker 1>this story. Dexter and Johnny have gotten money from Miss

0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:26.960
<v Speaker 1>that miss O Dexter for pretending to stock him to

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 1>make miss seem like a bigger Hollywood star. So they're

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 1>spending the money and they bought Christmas presents, they bought

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:37.640
<v Speaker 1>all the merch and they're handing it out to children

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 1>for like an hour. MS shows up and he tries

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<v Speaker 1>to steal the bag back and it appears comes out

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 1>and goes, no, it's not your money, you lost it,

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 1>give it back. MS then does a sob story about

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 1>having no money to their credit. Johnny Gargano then says, bro,

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 1>don't try to convince us that you have no money,

0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 1>that your life savings in this stupid bag. We know

0:30:58.200 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 1>you're rich. We've seen your show. Are you trying to

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 1>pull here? MS? That explains you know what, You're right.

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I am rich, but my money is not liquid. And

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 1>on top of that, my wife gives me an allowance.

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 1>So they tell him, well, why don't you get your

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 1>wife to give you your allowance early, and we'll put

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Dexter's bag of your money and your bag of money

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>up in the air, and we're gonna have a ladder match.

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Winner takes all. So, like, you know, maybe in a vacuum,

0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 1>you're like, Okay, well, you know this is all making sense,

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:32.880
<v Speaker 1>it's all playing out, but let's get out of the vacuum.

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have MMS and Dexter Loomis in a ladder

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 1>match for two bags of money. Now, granted, I had

0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 1>no faith in the n x T Iron Survivor Challenges

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 1>matches and they ended up being really good, both of them,

0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 1>but that doesn't mean that I need to have faith

0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 1>in this one. I do not think that this could

0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 1>possibly be all that good. But I guess we'll find

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 1>out next week, and then I will ask again, can

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 1>we just get this over with? The storyline sucks. I

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 1>know it's playing out. I know there's been a beginning, middle,

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 1>and end, but sometimes you gotta cut bait on the

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 1>story that sucks, and this one's sucking? Am I wrong?

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:29.080
<v Speaker 1>You're not wrong? And the longer this goes on, the

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 1>longer I don't get a Index reunion and n x

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 1>T where both of those people belong combined with each

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 1>other and we Hadeo Sky versus Candice Larray ten minutes.

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Pretty good match. Eo Moon salted her again. It's just

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:48.560
<v Speaker 1>like out of nowhere. They did a match. She eat

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 1>her with a move. She starts dragging her to the corner.

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 1>She goes up top. You're waiting for Candice to jump

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>up and chop her legs or whatever. Nope, she just

0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 1>kept going and did her moving pinder. I like it.

0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 1>It's good, okay whatever. It wasn't a bad match at all,

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:04.320
<v Speaker 1>just came out of nowhere. Again. I'm counting. We need

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 1>levels in that company, you know what I'm saying. We

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>need guys who can look. That's one of the biggest

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 1>problems with Austin theory is the fact that they don't

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 1>have enough people like as you go up a mid

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 1>card that actually have any credibility to beat. You know,

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to think that Candice Lay is somewhere on

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 1>the chart where yeah, she's going to beat Dana Brooke

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:22.960
<v Speaker 1>every time out. But you know what, when you have

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 1>one half of the women's tag team champions Okay, good,

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 1>you know Sky is a little bit above that. There's

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 1>nothing wrong with actually, you know, evening all that out

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 1>in the car, because that's one thing they've been missing.

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Then we had the greatest segment on Raw in months,

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:42.840
<v Speaker 1>perhaps years, yes, when doing this promo, and who should

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:47.479
<v Speaker 1>interrupt him but Elias. And that look that I had

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 1>on my face a few minutes ago was the exact

0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:51.680
<v Speaker 1>same look that Kevin Owens had in his face when

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:53.480
<v Speaker 1>this guy had the nerve to come up with him

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 1>and ask if you would watch his back tonight. And

0:33:56.680 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Owens was so gobsmacked and he lost his mind.

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I cannot believe you're asking me to watch your back.

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Have you forgotten the pain and misery that you put

0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:11.600
<v Speaker 1>me through for months? And of course Elias has to

0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:14.240
<v Speaker 1>twist the knife. That wasn't me, that was my brother.

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Now now Kevin's he's totally flipped his lid. And then

0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:21.120
<v Speaker 1>he points out, you know, even if none of that

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 1>ever happened, the last time were in the ring that

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:24.600
<v Speaker 1>you hit me with a guitar. You broke a guitar

0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:28.600
<v Speaker 1>over my head. Now you want my help, he storms off.

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:32.719
<v Speaker 1>Elias has to look at his face like huh, might

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:35.919
<v Speaker 1>have been a bad time to ask, Kevin Owens said,

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 1>storms back in, looks at the guy again to make

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:44.840
<v Speaker 1>sure this is this actually happened, and then he storms

0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:50.239
<v Speaker 1>off again. I died watching this segment, was dying and

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 1>know what you left out? You know who was suddenly

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:56.120
<v Speaker 1>brilliant and all of it. Kathy Kelly is awesome because

0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:59.919
<v Speaker 1>Kathy Kelly, as Owens was looking over just dumb straw

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 1>and she's looking over to Alias to everything about it

0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 1>was perfect. So then Elias goes to the ring for

0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:11.839
<v Speaker 1>a match with Solo Sakoa. Solo Sakoah kills him him

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:14.120
<v Speaker 1>and Samy go to kill him more afterwards, who should

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:16.360
<v Speaker 1>run down to make to say, but Kevin Owens, and

0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Owens starts hitting stunners on on Solo and then

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Eliza is so thankful that he saved him from getting

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 1>his neck broken and he goes to hug Kevin Owens

0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 1>and Kevin boots him in the stomach and hits him

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 1>with the stunner. Loved it. I don't see good things

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 1>in Eliza's future, by the way. He Honestly, I never

0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:38.759
<v Speaker 1>thought i'd say this. He was way better off as Ezekiel.

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:42.399
<v Speaker 1>It's too cold to shave that thing, though, I guess

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 1>kevins Owens is a Hall of Famer. Rha Ripley defeated

0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Oscar in a good match. Oscar no longer wears the

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:53.759
<v Speaker 1>face paint, and they're talking about how she she's lost

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:57.560
<v Speaker 1>her edge. So hopefully they're not turning her heel as well,

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 1>because we're already going that way with Alexa. But she was,

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:05.279
<v Speaker 1>she was more violent here and then uh, finally dumb

0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:07.880
<v Speaker 1>jumps up on the apron and she sprayed missed in

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:09.880
<v Speaker 1>this guy's face, and this place when nuts. They were

0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 1>so happy to see this guy get misted and he's

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 1>selling it like he's blind and he can't see. But

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 1>then poor Oscar turns around, gets ripped tided, which is

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 1>not a word, and pinned what ripped? Two ripped teed?

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 1>She got ripped tided? Yeah she did. And how many

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:32.440
<v Speaker 1>women are going through character transition right now? Alexa? You got, Nikki,

0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:35.000
<v Speaker 1>you got? I mean, there is a bunch of women

0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:37.360
<v Speaker 1>going through probably as many as they're changing in a

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 1>w right now. Actually, they've had about eighty five different turns,

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 1>and then we had, of all people, he's back Dolph

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Ziggler threatens theory brother, I saw it. I'm over it.

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Why are we going back to this, especially because the

0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:58.359
<v Speaker 1>main event is seth Rawbon's Bobby lashing for the number

0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:02.879
<v Speaker 1>one condetor ship. Good match twelve minutes. These guys are great,

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 1>so Lashly almost runs over the ref. The ref bails

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:11.080
<v Speaker 1>outside to not take a bump, but then he twists

0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 1>his anchor like an idiot, and then Lashly spears seth rawlins.

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:22.280
<v Speaker 1>The ref is too slow to count. Lashly is furious.

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 1>He goes for another spear. He gets pedigreed out of

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 1>thin air, pinned. I guess I don't know if the

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:30.840
<v Speaker 1>air was thin, but that doesn't matter. He got pinned.

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:34.400
<v Speaker 1>And then afterwards he's angry at the referee. He's screaming

0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:39.600
<v Speaker 1>at him. Another referee comes down. He accidentally, he accidentally

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:44.040
<v Speaker 1>hits this referee. Pierce comes out and he's furious and

0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:47.719
<v Speaker 1>he's cutting a promo and Lashly Lashly shoves this guy

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 1>gets fired. Yes, I realized he shoved at him. Peers,

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:54.800
<v Speaker 1>but he shoved him because his whole thing is so

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:59.439
<v Speaker 1>dumb that he accidentally hurt a referee and was told

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:02.879
<v Speaker 1>if you accidentally hurt one again. You will be in big,

0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:07.640
<v Speaker 1>big trouble. I don't like this story back in a

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:13.800
<v Speaker 1>moment of her live like the show. Bran elbur is

0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:17.880
<v Speaker 1>here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike semper viv also Wrestling Observer

0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:24.040
<v Speaker 1>dot Com. Hey, listen, I make assumptions as well. We

0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:27.560
<v Speaker 1>all do, but don't always make so many assumptions. Okay.

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 1>One of the things on the chat here is, oh,

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 1>it's all the same stuff. Riddle's gone for six weeks. Shots,

0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:34.920
<v Speaker 1>He has gone for six weeks. Lashly has gone for

0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 1>six weeks. It's all to get people back for the rumble.

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Hold on, I know that's the assumption. But the Riddle

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 1>is gone for reasons that have nothing to do with storyline. Okay.

0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:48.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't know all the details. There's a lot of

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:50.759
<v Speaker 1>rumors out there. I don't know what's what, but that's

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:56.160
<v Speaker 1>why he's gone. Okay, SHOTSI has a broken hand. That's legitimate.

0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:59.439
<v Speaker 1>So that's why she's gone. She may be back six weeks,

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:04.120
<v Speaker 1>she might not it. And Bobby Lashly, I mean, here's

0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:07.279
<v Speaker 1>the thing. The story was he was fired. Okay, So

0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:09.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's gonna vanish for six weeks and

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:12.120
<v Speaker 1>just make a surprise return at the Rumble. I presume

0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:14.600
<v Speaker 1>that this is a storyline that is gonna be playing

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 1>off on TV every week for you know, however long

0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 1>to do something between now and the Royal Rumble. So yeah,

0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:24.759
<v Speaker 1>it seems like they're doing the exact same thing and

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot of different circumstances. Every circumstances different. So yes,

0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:34.680
<v Speaker 1>m hmm. Do you know that tonight on Vice Vince

0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 1>McMahon The Nine Lives ye nine, nine o'clock midnight and

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:44.279
<v Speaker 1>three am, three times. But what you can do is

0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 1>set your d v R for Vice TV and it

0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:49.719
<v Speaker 1>may or on the internet as well for all. But

0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:52.920
<v Speaker 1>I do know it's airing on Vice TV tonight at

0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 1>nine midnight and three am. You gotta watch it, Mike,

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to. Don't we talk about it tomorrow because

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:01.399
<v Speaker 1>I got you too, TV. I need a hook up

0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:05.960
<v Speaker 1>and I got sling to as a backup because it's, uh,

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:10.880
<v Speaker 1>you got all the money, It's like it ain't that

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:14.759
<v Speaker 1>much back in a moment, meaning in an hour with

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