1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning, Everybody's DJ Envy Angela, Yee, Charlomagne the guy. 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: We are the breakfast club. We got a special guest 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: in the ballot. That's right, this divine being having a 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: human experience. Master, well being, educator, don't to keep going. Oh. 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: She has many teaching certifications. She has many teaching certifications 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: including meditation, breath work in the child, healing, and spiritual psychology. 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: She's an energy healer. She hosting leads many spiritual spiritual 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: retreats a year. She teaches in God's Deli Meditations on 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: the Choper app. She advises on well being. A teachers 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: mindfulness for several corporations. She's an author of a book 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: called Crystal Bliss, and she hosts a podcast on the 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: Black Podcast Network called Dropping Gems. It's my good sister. 14 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: And she has a four year old that is taller 15 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: than Charlamagne. That is a fact. Wie, that's my god son. 16 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: We're talking about the quest is a big little boy. 17 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: That is a fact. Yes, welcome, good morning, Good morning. 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: How are you, Debbie. 19 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 3: I'm incredible, I feel incredible. Okay, this moment in time 20 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 3: is a lot, but it's also there's magic in it 21 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: for all of us. 22 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: What makes you feel so incredible? 23 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 3: You know, I think I'm excited about where we all 24 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: get to be in our lives in this moment, Like 25 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 3: this is the first time ever in human history that 26 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 3: we've all been able to become higher versions of ourselves, 27 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 3: like so many at a time. We all have more resources, 28 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: more support for mental health, more support for emotional health. 29 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 3: So it's like even when I get to see friends 30 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 3: I haven't seen in a while, like, I feel like 31 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 3: we get to meet each other at new levels. You know, 32 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 3: we get to have deeper conversations with the people that 33 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 3: we love. We get to be, you know, just set 34 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 3: our boundaries, be ourselves. 35 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: People say, what are you talking about? 36 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: Debbie does multi pox? 37 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: There is COVID and we're in a recession, interest rates 38 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: at at all time high, but you still find the 39 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: positive out of it, you know what it? 40 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 3: Life is both the human experience. We're always oscillating between 41 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 3: these two ends of the spectrum, joy and grief. And 42 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 3: I think that, you know, the viewpoint I have of it, 43 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: and something I really had to come into in the 44 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 3: pandemic was the moments that feel like joy, I have 45 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: to let myself feel all of it. You know, I 46 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 3: want every inch of delight when it's present, because life 47 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: is hard, life is challenging. Like we walk to the 48 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: table with so many things that we've experienced that no 49 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 3: one knows about, and then we're alive right now with 50 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 3: you know, it is what it is, all the things happening. 51 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 3: So when I get a chance to be with people 52 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 3: I love, when I get a chance to do anything 53 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 3: that sparks in my spirit, I try to feel every 54 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: single piece of it. 55 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 4: There are times when people feel guilty too, because they 56 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 4: may be experiencing a lot of positivity, but there's so 57 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 4: much going on around you that you don't feel like 58 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 4: you can even celebrate that. 59 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, and I think it's important to because that's 60 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: that's what allows us to sustain. Like, I think the 61 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: thing we've all gotten so wrong about the human experience 62 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 3: is like everyone thinks that the goal is always supreme 63 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 3: happiness and that if it's not that, then those are 64 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: the periods of your life you don't really sit with 65 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 3: or look at or talk about. But we need the grief, 66 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 3: we need the pain just as much as we need 67 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 3: everything else. So you know, even in the midst of 68 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 3: the moment in time we're having now where everything is 69 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 3: crazy and it's been crazy, you know, it's I wake 70 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: up every day and I'm just like, but how can 71 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 3: I fuel my fire? How can I keep that internal 72 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: oven inside of me just constantly going for myself, from 73 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: my life, from my child. 74 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: Can we go back to to like almost the beginning, right, 75 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: because when you think of you know, deVie dev A 76 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: lot of us probably know deVie Dad from radio. You know, 77 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: we started, Debbie Dev. I met you at kDa in 78 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: La in like seven, and you know you on Sway Show. 79 00:03:55,120 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: But it's like you've always been this spiritually connected person 80 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: when you when do you like first remember that like 81 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: connection to a higher power? You know. 82 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: I think so many things play into that. I think 83 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 3: by nature, I'm an only child raised by a single parent, 84 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: which is a certain kind of experience that kind of 85 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 3: keeps you in your head a lot. So I think 86 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 3: that was a piece of it. But I've always just 87 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 3: been fascinated by transformation of any kind. Like I was 88 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 3: definitely reading self help books as a little girl. I 89 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 3: was just so interested in what made people themselves but 90 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: also what kept people from becoming themselves. 91 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 2: Now, one time you decided to give this all up, right, Yeah, 92 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: you would. You were very successful doing radio. You were 93 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 2: in Houston, they were talking about syndication, you were talking 94 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: about moving back to la and then you said. 95 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: You were one of the best radio personality in the country. 96 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it's still one of the best personalities period, 97 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: but you were on the radio as one of the 98 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: best personalities in the country. 99 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: And then you said, I'm done with this. Well what 100 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 2: made you say, you know what, I don't want to 101 00:04:58,520 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: do this anymore? 102 00:04:59,160 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: What? 103 00:04:59,320 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: What? 104 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: What was they. 105 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 3: Need? You know, it was a couple of things. I 106 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: think the amazing thing about the show that y'all do 107 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 3: is you guys have established something so rare and different 108 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 3: than has ever been I think in broadcasting, and you 109 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 3: guys get to show up as your full selves at work. 110 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 3: You get to have the conversations that matter to you. 111 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 3: Where I was when I was doing radio that had 112 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 3: started becoming so closed off. You know, at one point 113 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 3: when I was working in radio, I was able to 114 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 3: have meaningful conversations like I went viral with Kanye, went 115 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: viral with Kendrick talking about mental health. And then you know, 116 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 3: the powers that be they just say talk less talk less, 117 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: you know, where I used to have a talk break 118 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 3: where I could really connect it, like do that in 119 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: eleven seconds, but say the whole liner, you know. And 120 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: it's just I just felt like I wasn't able to 121 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 3: use this gift of communication at the level that God 122 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 3: really commanded of me, at the level that felt fulfilling 123 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 3: to me. And so I knew that I needed to 124 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: find I wanted to have different conversations, and I think 125 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 3: you know, when I left radio, that was like twenty sixteen, 126 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 3: twenty seventeen, so the kind of conversations I was having 127 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 3: weren't really popular at the time. Like I wanted to 128 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 3: kind of talk about some of the darker stuff. I 129 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 3: wanted to talk about some of the more complex, complicated, 130 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: complex things, and I just kind of do that on 131 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: the terrestrial radio. I was at like I remember one 132 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 3: of my bosses at the time was like, I want 133 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 3: you to start doing a segment about groupies where you 134 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 3: take callers and ask them what celebrities they slept with Jesus. 135 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: And I was like, sir, do you know me at all? 136 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 3: Like I was like, well, I can't do that, so 137 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 3: let me let me find my place, and you know, 138 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 3: I wanted to have more adventure. Like I At that point, 139 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 3: I knew spirituality was the leading leading journey amission from 140 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 3: my life, and so I just said, I have to 141 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 3: invest everything about myself to that. 142 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 4: And let me ask you this. You did say back then, 143 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 4: those conversations weren't as popular as they are now. And 144 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 4: definitely now I feel like people are having those conversations 145 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 4: about spirituality about mental health a lot more. But there's 146 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 4: so many different conflicting things, so much information out there, 147 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 4: so many people that you're like, Okay, who do I 148 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 4: listen to? Who do I trust? Who do I believe? Right? 149 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 4: So how do people manage to kind of filter through 150 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 4: all of that noise? 151 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 3: Ooh, that is so good because it is like the 152 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 3: wild West out here, Like it really is, like you know, 153 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 3: I think everybody should vet everyone that they talk to. 154 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 3: And I think what's really important is there is this 155 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 3: kind of split between people that are enthusiasts and are 156 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 3: sharing processes that maybe worked really well for their individual lives. 157 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: But we all have complex lives. We all have so 158 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: many experiences that made us us. So I think it's 159 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 3: just really important to connect with people that are deeply 160 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: studied that are experts in this space, you know, work 161 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 3: with people who have embodied what they're saying, not just 162 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: sharing maybe the tips and tricks or not just you know, 163 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 3: saying the things of like I've read this book and 164 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 3: it said this, but who has been applying it to 165 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 3: their life in a way that it's transformed them and 166 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 3: this is their way of being? Those are always the 167 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 3: people I'm like kind of guide more in that direction. 168 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 3: And I believe in a holistic view. I think if 169 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: you know, for anybody listening that feels called to a 170 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 3: healing journey or any kind of like internal exploration, you 171 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 3: have to do it for mind, body, and spirit. You know, 172 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 3: therapy is incredible and it's one of the foundational steps, 173 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 3: but you also need everything else. You need body practice, 174 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 3: you need something that really feeds and grows and builds 175 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 3: your spirit. Like, we can't just do one thing. It 176 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 3: has to be an integrated approach to have real transformation. 177 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: Can we expand on that? I remember you telling me 178 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: that you know years ago us this like in the 179 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: therapy is great, and I'm glad you're in therapy, but 180 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: you need more and just therapy to transform your life. Like, 181 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: what exactly does that look? 182 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: Like, so even with therapy, there's so many different kinds 183 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 3: of therapy, and I think a lot of people, especially now, 184 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 3: because we're just so new to all of this, everyone 185 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: goes to cognitive therapy, which is kind of like the 186 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 3: standard talk therapy. For some people, that is actually not 187 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 3: the best option. Depending on what you are coming to 188 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 3: the table with, potentially what kind of traumas or experiences 189 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 3: you've had, you may need somatic therapy, you may need DBT, 190 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 3: you may need all these different styles. And so that's 191 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: why I say, like, also get creative with it. When 192 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 3: you're on your journey and you start to feel maybe 193 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 3: a little stuck, something isn't working, start exploring, start googling, 194 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 3: start asking more questions. But the piece about therapy is 195 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: it keeps you in your head. It helps you understand 196 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 3: yourself and the things that have happened, and it gives 197 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 3: you the language to talk about it. But it doesn't 198 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 3: always give you the opportunity to live this new knowing. 199 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 3: At that that point, it can be really powerful to 200 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 3: invite in like spiritual practice or a self care practice, 201 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 3: so that you are applying acceptance to yourself, You're applying 202 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 3: loving to yourself. You know, It's one thing to know everything, 203 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 3: but to know everything and still love yourself, to know 204 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 3: everything and come into compassion for the people that have 205 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 3: harmed you. It takes many different processes. 206 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: And you know, you're a master well being educator. You 207 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: have you know a lot of certification. What does that 208 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: look like too for people who will be like, oh, 209 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: how do I know she just didn't read a book. Yeah, 210 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: like you actually invested in yourself with this. 211 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I mean I've read a lot of books 212 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 3: and I've done a lot of process on myself. This 213 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 3: is also you know, probably fifteen years of therapy on myself, 214 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 3: a lot of working with healing practitioners all over the world. 215 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 3: But yeah, I dedicated really the last ten years of 216 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 3: my life. Even while I was still in radio, I 217 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 3: was also enrolled in different programs and just amassing my knowledge. 218 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 3: You know. My thing was an And I really encourage 219 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 3: anybody listening for whatever field you're in. If you're called 220 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 3: to something, if you know it's something that you know, 221 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: not just in the way we used to say it, 222 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 3: like you do it if it was for free, No, 223 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 3: if it's something that you're curious about, like you're always 224 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 3: thinking about it, you're always trying to find different facets 225 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 3: of it, invest in yourself. You know, I knew this 226 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 3: was my path. I knew I was called to help 227 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: people heal, to help alleviate internal suffering. And I didn't 228 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 3: want to just do it from a place of like 229 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 3: motivation and positivity. I wanted to really know what is 230 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 3: the deep process of transformation? And also what are all 231 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 3: the things that people are facing? You know, what are 232 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 3: things that keep what are the barriers that are in 233 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 3: place for different kinds of people that keep them from healing? 234 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: And what books helps you? 235 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: What helped you on your journey? 236 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: Oh? 237 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 3: God, so many things, so many books. I think one 238 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 3: of the books that I love and I speak to 239 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: this book a lot. But it's simple, it's short, but 240 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 3: it is powerful and can used on it daily basis 241 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 3: is The Seven Spiritual Laws of Success by Deepak Chopra. 242 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: What I love about that book is it really expands 243 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 3: your understanding of what life could be like if you 244 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: really come into a place of surrender of trust that 245 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 3: everything that was unfolding is ultimately for your highest good, 246 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 3: even the things that may not have received your consent, 247 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 3: even the things that still feel like an open wound, 248 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 3: coming into acceptance of that, and then really alchemizing all 249 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 3: that life has given you to transform, to create, to 250 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 3: have new possibilities. That book really gave me, like the 251 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 3: zoomed out expanded view of what could. 252 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 4: Be essentially bought up. Deepakchopra, I want to talk about 253 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 4: your prime Shewed sessions. Yes, yeah, Draymond Green on now 254 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 4: in particular, So you're talking about just the mental well 255 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 4: being and so being able to focus right with Jraymond Green, 256 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 4: Why in particular do you think athletes need to focus 257 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 4: on something like this and how do you think it 258 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 4: helped them? 259 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 3: Gosh, I think it's so important. First, like Religion of 260 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 3: sports came up with this phenomenal content concept. This is 261 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 3: their beautiful body of work. They tell really powerful stories, 262 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 3: and it was myself and it was Deepak and we 263 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 3: were in this really beautiful process with Draymond. What I 264 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,599 Speaker 3: think is so important about that not just from the 265 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 3: athletic lens, but from the masculinity lens, Like I think 266 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 3: this is really a moment of divine masculinity, of men's 267 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 3: transformative healing, of men's kind of awakening, and so the 268 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: opportunity to kind of work with someone who already has 269 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 3: such ingrained dedication, discipline, knowledge of their body, knowledge of themselves. 270 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 3: I thought was a really amazing experience because then we 271 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 3: just got to go in and kind of chisel a 272 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 3: little bit, you know, kind of fun intune the process. 273 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 4: How receptive was he to this at first? 274 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 3: So receptive, like so receptive he came in and it 275 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 3: was it was just a joy and a privilege to 276 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 3: work with Draymond because he is so smart, so self 277 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 3: aware already. And he came in saying and if you 278 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 3: watch the show, Deepak asked him, you know, where are 279 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 3: you at on an emotional level from you know, one 280 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 3: to ten? And I think he said he was a four. 281 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 3: And then Deepak said, well, then you're suffering, you know, 282 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 3: And we don't always look at that when everything else 283 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 3: is amazing in our lives, or if you're super successful, 284 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 3: got all of this, you know, acclaim opportunity that piece. 285 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 3: You know, we often just say like, oh yeah, I 286 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 3: feel it there. It's like a little seed in the 287 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 3: pit of my stomach or sometimes in my heart, but eh, 288 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 3: I'll pad everything else around it. And you know, he 289 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 3: came into the experience like, Okay, how does this work? 290 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 3: Tell me x Y and Z and then by you know, 291 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: by the later part of our sessions when we were meeting, 292 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 3: he was like, Okay, so I've read this book. I've 293 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 3: read this book. I've read this book. I understand it 294 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 3: like this, and he was just really ready to feel 295 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 3: things that maybe he hadn't felt before. 296 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: Oh, I want to get back to the sessions on Amazon, 297 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: but I want to talk about the connection with Deepok, 298 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: because I call you Tupac Chopra, right, and so to 299 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: see you and Deepak actually working together now was like 300 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: surreal in a lot of ways. How did that connection happen? 301 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: Oh my god? Surreal? So godly. You always got to 302 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 3: listen to the whispers of God, you know. I feel 303 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 3: like when you can really get into a space of 304 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: following the flow of where life wants to lead you 305 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 3: and not where you're trying to make it go, miracles happen. 306 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 3: And so you know, with Deepak, I was absolutely a 307 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 3: student of his work and just I was so transformed. 308 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 3: Deepak has written over ninety books in his lifetime, Like 309 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 3: his depth of knowledge is so massive. So it really 310 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 3: started where I was burned out. I was working in radio, 311 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 3: Like we talked about in my twenties and I ended 312 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 3: up getting shingles, which is highly painful for anybody that's 313 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 3: had it, but it's also specifically something you don't get 314 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 3: to like your seventies and your eighties. I had it 315 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 3: in my twenties, and I was like, this life isn't sustainable, 316 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 3: like clearly for people. 317 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: That don't know if I'm not, I heard of it, 318 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 2: but I don't know what it is. 319 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 3: So shingles is a virus that lays dormant in your 320 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 3: body after you have the chicken pox, and it's typically 321 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 3: something that doesn't manifest until you are in your elderly years, 322 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 3: but it can be brought forward with a lot of stress, 323 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 3: and it is very painful. It often presents as like 324 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 3: a big rash somewhere for a length of time, and 325 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 3: no medicine alleviates the pain. For me, it felt like 326 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 3: there was a frozen ice pick stabbing you in your nerve, 327 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 3: really painful. And so this was like, you know, ten 328 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 3: years ago, and I went online and I just typed 329 00:16:56,040 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 3: in like detox, help retreat something, and the first thing 330 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 3: that popped up was a photo of Deepak and it 331 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 3: was for his health center. And so I ended up 332 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 3: going on a ten day detox retreat and it changed 333 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 3: everything about my life. And I ended up doing so 334 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 3: many of the programs that Choprah offered, which eventually led 335 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 3: me to do their teacher training program and get certified 336 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 3: in meditation. And so our relationship was really just growing 337 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:26,719 Speaker 3: and building. And when Chopra Global launched about two years ago, 338 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 3: I ended up coming on board as their Chief Impact 339 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 3: Officer and meeting some of their initiatives. 340 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: Was that pressure? 341 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 3: What does that mean? 342 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: Was it pressure? Did you feel pressure once you were 343 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: in that position? 344 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 3: No? I felt so aligned. 345 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: For me. 346 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 3: It was just it was just the deepest acknowledgment that 347 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 3: my path was what I was envisioning, that I was 348 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 3: exactly where I was supposed to be. So I think 349 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 3: I really trust myself. I trust my life, I trust myself, 350 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 3: I trust my expertise. So I felt like it was 351 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 3: divine alignment. 352 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 4: I applied these skills to your life. How have you 353 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 4: been handling things differently than you used to when you 354 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 4: were younger? 355 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 3: Ooh, everything, you know? I think for me boundaries like 356 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 3: really just understanding myself and understanding that you know, this 357 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 3: is my movie. I'm the star of my movie. I'm 358 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 3: a supporting character in a lot of people's movies. I'm 359 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 3: a supporting character in your movie, you're a supporting character 360 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 3: in mine. But I have to make myself in my 361 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 3: life a priority. And to do that, you really cannot 362 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 3: care what people think. You cannot allow other people's projections 363 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 3: to change how you think about yourself or make you 364 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 3: bend or contort in any way. And I think that 365 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 3: that was one of the biggest things. It's like, just 366 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: by being alive, we're constantly comparing. It starts in our 367 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 3: childhood with our parents, with the kids in school, but 368 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 3: especially as adults, especially if you work in the entertainment industry. 369 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: Especially with social media. 370 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,959 Speaker 3: Oh my god, especially with social media, like it's impossible 371 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 3: not to and so just really kind of zooming out 372 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 3: of that matrix and just saying like, I can't care 373 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 3: what anybody else thinks. I have to trust that my 374 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 3: path in my life is mine. 375 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: Oh that's one way to create a healthy boundary, And 376 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: what are some other ways to create healthy boundaries? 377 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 3: So healthy boundaries, the first part is you have to 378 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 3: become really aware of yourself and who you are. I 379 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 3: think a lot of this boundary conversation tends to tilt 380 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 3: into using boundaries as more of a wall, a wall 381 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 3: of protection, a barrier against other people, and also a 382 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 3: judgment of other people. When I hear people talk about boundaries, 383 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 3: even on social media, I think we have to really 384 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 3: upgrade our understanding of why we don't have them to 385 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,239 Speaker 3: begin with. You know, it's like everyone's like, no, I'm 386 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 3: gonna have boundaries, and you know, and anybody that doesn't 387 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 3: have my boundaries like you're cut out of my life. 388 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 3: And people don't want to respect your boundaries, and there's 389 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 3: such this like harsh judgmental view no one does until 390 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 3: you got them. And the thing is, the people in 391 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 3: our lives that are trying to climb over them don't 392 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 3: understand what they are either, which is why they don't 393 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 3: even apply them to their own selves. So I think 394 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 3: on the journey of finding boundaries of coming into self awareness, 395 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 3: as often as it's possible, we always have to try 396 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 3: to steep it in overall compassion and non judgment. A 397 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 3: lot of us are doing things for the very first time, 398 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 3: a lot of us have just heard about boundaries for 399 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 3: the very first time. And very often if you don't 400 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 3: have boundaries already, it's because different things happened in your 401 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 3: life that led you to kind of disregard yourself in 402 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 3: certain ways or not think that you had the right 403 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 3: or the worth to choose yourself first. So it's all 404 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 3: the process, and we just have to go slow and gently. 405 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: So question, are you we born with boundaries and then 406 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: they get toyed down at some point we never have 407 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: them and we have to learn how to build them. 408 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 3: So there's a multitude of reasons. But I think one 409 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 3: of the reasons that I most often and work with 410 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 3: and see in our childhood certain things have to happen 411 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 3: for us to become the best version of our adult self. 412 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 3: There has to be certain kinds of role modeling in 413 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 3: place of behavior. There has to be role modeling of care, 414 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 3: of understanding, of listening of language. If we have experienced 415 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,959 Speaker 3: certain emotional neglect, which millions of people do, even if 416 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 3: your parents don't want to or don't know that they're 417 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 3: doing it. If you're experiencing any kind of emotional neglect 418 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 3: or traumas big t or Little Tea, it affects the 419 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 3: way your core identity is established. Your core identity is 420 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 3: established in childhood, that is the peace of you, that 421 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 3: isn't the roles you play, but it's the piece of 422 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 3: you that thinks that you're worthy, that thinks that you 423 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 3: have rights, that knows that your emotional life matters. If 424 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,719 Speaker 3: you're not given that opportunity to grow that in a 425 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 3: safe way, you don't know how to set boundaries because 426 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 3: you don't under understand yourself your own needs, You don't 427 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 3: understand what you require. 428 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 4: And sometimes things bad happen to you or people burn you, 429 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 4: and then you're like, okay, moving forward. This is how 430 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 4: I have to move. 431 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I think when that stuff happens in our 432 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 3: adult life, even still, it usually comes down to an 433 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 3: original wound that happened in childhood. There was something in 434 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 3: the dynamic with the child and the caregiver or whatever 435 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 3: adults may have been present, where their needs were not 436 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 3: looked at, and you maybe had to please the person 437 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 3: that was caretaking for you to get what you needed. 438 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 3: And so then in your adult life you find yourself 439 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 3: repeating those patterns in so many different ways, and friendships 440 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 3: and relationships and the jobs that you choose, and the 441 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 3: way that your dynamic with your boss and your coworkers 442 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 3: is like it permeates everything about your life. There is 443 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 3: nothing more important than childhood. 444 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 2: Now when you talk about you know, everybody has their 445 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 2: own journey, right, yeah, and you have family, your friends, 446 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: your man, and your child. So you base your circle 447 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 2: now because there's going to be some people that are 448 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 2: into the things that you're into, some people that don't 449 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 2: care about it, some people that don't believe. So how 450 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 2: do you keep your circle? Do you keep those people 451 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: that are not in your circle? Or do you set 452 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 2: up those boundaries? But it's like, all right, well, if 453 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 2: you're not believed, I'll wait for you to be a 454 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 2: believer to be in a circle. So how do you 455 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 2: go about your your normal day? 456 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: Oh? 457 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 3: I don't think people have to be believers. Like, I'm 458 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 3: not looking to convince anyone, And I'm okay if we 459 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 3: are not aligned in our beliefs, but. 460 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 2: I would be a friend with somebody like you know, 461 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 2: Charlemagne goes outside likes the hug wood. 462 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: Right if he wasn't a tree sir? Sorry, okay, if. 463 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 2: He wasn't a wood hugger, right, could you explain We 464 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 2: can explain that if he wasn't a wood hugger, he 465 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 2: loves but if he wasn't that way, could you be 466 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 2: around him as much? If he wasn't as grounded as 467 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: he was, or if he wasn't doing the work on himself, 468 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,479 Speaker 2: could you still have him in your circle like that? 469 00:23:58,800 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: Or you know, the. 470 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 3: Structure of our relationship would have to change. I want 471 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 3: to be in judgment about him, like I want to 472 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 3: judge a person, because we're living different lives. However, I 473 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 3: have to prioritize what is actually nurturing my own life 474 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 3: and my own growth. And so I think first I 475 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 3: would say this, all of us hold on to too 476 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 3: many people for too long. That is what I feel. 477 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 3: A lot of it comes because of social media. It's 478 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 3: this natural Oh we kind of had a click, I'm 479 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 3: gonna follow you, I'm gonna follow you back. Now we're 480 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 3: plugged into knowing the nuance of every person we've ever 481 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 3: met life forever. There's not really the room for that, 482 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 3: you know. So I think the way that I look 483 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 3: at my life is I'm a very very open person. 484 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 3: I love connecting with people. But when I look at 485 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 3: how my life is actually built, it's not sustainable for 486 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 3: me to have active relationship with a lot of people. 487 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 3: And so over the last two years, like I've massivily 488 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 3: shed in my life and Some of them were highly intentional, 489 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 3: like friendships that were misaligned because of character, because of integrity, 490 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 3: because of choices, and there had to be hard conversations. 491 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 3: Some of those hard conversations turned into re establishing the friendship, 492 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 3: like we were able to get to new ground and rebuild. 493 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 3: Some of them were more of an awkward heartsh goodbye, 494 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 3: and many others were really just let nature do his thing. 495 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 2: And how are those conversations? Like, So, let's say there's 496 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 2: somebody in your click you need to have a conversation. Yeah, 497 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 2: because they're not following the same journey that you're following. 498 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 2: You just don't want them around you, honestly, So how 499 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 2: do you have those conversations? 500 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 3: So if you're me, you just have them. I don't 501 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 3: have a lot of fear around any of that because 502 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 3: I think I love myself, I love my life. I 503 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 3: feel aligned, and so I'm not taking other people's misdirected 504 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 3: emotions personally. So if someone is upset in our conversation, 505 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 3: that's not going to rock me, and I'm most not 506 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 3: going to take on a lot of guilt about it. 507 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 3: I trust that my choices are made in integrity. But 508 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 3: you know, you have to be direct, but you also 509 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 3: have to know yourself to be direct in a way 510 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 3: that it's actually healing and beneficial, not you know when 511 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 3: people use that term brutally honest or I keep it real. 512 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 3: Real is relative. You're real is based on your life experience, 513 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 3: and it could be completely fraudulent to someone else based 514 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 3: on how they recognize real. So I think there has 515 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 3: to be a certain amount of self awareness in yourself 516 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 3: before you have that conversation. And it's important to come 517 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 3: into a space, if possible, of more neutrality so that 518 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 3: you can walk away from something with lasting peace. 519 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: As a friend, right, and because I'm sure to people listening. 520 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 2: So as a friend, let's say Nick, the camera guy, 521 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 2: let's say do you guide him first of what you 522 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 2: think of being a friend? Like, Hey, Nick, I think 523 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 2: that you're doing this too much. I think you need 524 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 2: to fall back and look at this or it's one 525 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 2: of those things like, Bro, you're not going in my direction. 526 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: I gotta go yeah, because it can be two preach 527 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: great question. 528 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 2: But you know, as somebody who's done the work, who's 529 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 2: read numerous books, who's you know, done what you're supposed 530 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 2: to do, how do you do that? As you know 531 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 2: with the friend. 532 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 3: So what I did for myself was when I started 533 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 3: noticing that some friendships felt misaligned or non reciprocal in 534 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 3: the ways that were important to me, I just made 535 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 3: a mental note and I told myself that I was 536 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 3: going to slowly observe it. So you could do that 537 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 3: in a way of saying I'm going to give somebody 538 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 3: three strikes or three chances. But I just started slowly 539 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 3: observing and still interacting with the person. How the flow 540 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 3: of our relationship was, how often did we talk, were 541 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 3: they able to show up for me? Was I showing 542 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 3: up for them? Did it feel reciprocal? And I just 543 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 3: watched it over the course of a year. Like I 544 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 3: knew I was called to kind of radically shift and 545 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 3: make space in my life, and I gave myself really 546 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 3: a year to do it. So I started just observing 547 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 3: people from a far noticing things, keeping mental notes, and 548 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 3: then I really prayed about it. I said prayers, I 549 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 3: set intentions around it lead me to the aligned friendships 550 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 3: and partnerships allow me to remove with ease any friendships 551 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 3: or connections that are not serving or misaligned. You know, 552 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 3: I think it is important to bring God into all 553 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 3: of it. I think it's important to bring just a 554 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 3: higher energy into all of it. Once that was done 555 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 3: and I started really saying, okay, yeah, that's not a fit. 556 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 3: I just called people up directly and I was like, Hey, 557 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 3: I want to talk to you about our friendship. I 558 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 3: want to talk about our relationship. And I said, I 559 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 3: just want to let you know I don't have a 560 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 3: lot of judgment around you or this, but I need 561 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 3: to share how I'm feeling. I usually had supporting examples 562 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 3: of you know, this experience happened, this is the way 563 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 3: it made me feel. What are your thoughts on that. 564 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 3: We went back and forth a little bit about it. 565 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 3: Some people in my life said, thank you so much 566 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 3: for telling me this. I felt something changing between us. 567 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 3: I never saw that. I didn't even notice I was 568 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 3: doing that, but you're absolutely right. I'm sorry. We were 569 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 3: able to rebuild some people. It's just like, okay, all right, 570 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 3: what all right for? Show? You know or f you like? Okay, 571 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 3: but da da da da da da da. So I 572 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 3: think walking into setting boundaries, walking into shedding people, you 573 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 3: have to also walk in with the confidence of it's 574 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 3: okay if I lose them, it's okay if they don't understand. 575 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 3: And it's also okay if they blame me. None of 576 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 3: that has anything to do with me. 577 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: You know. It's like the word ease is a very 578 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: powerful word because you know, you know, you know, I 579 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: thank God for you daily. I tell you this all 580 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: the time. But it's just like our relationship, It's never 581 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: been a time we didn't share information. It's never been 582 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: a time we didn't have, you know, deep conversation. It's 583 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: just like things evolved and went from Yo, Charlottage listening 584 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: to this nipsey hustle bullets ain't got no name, or 585 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: arguing about Kendrick Lamar, you know what I mean to 586 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: read deep October seven spirituals like it just seemed effortless 587 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: the whole time. Yeah, And is that what you should 588 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: look for? 589 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 3: I guess absolutely. And I love us as a case 590 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 3: study of that because we've been friends for now like 591 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 3: fifteen years, and we've seen each other at so many 592 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 3: junctures of the journey. But what we always had was 593 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 3: non judgment. We always had an openness, We always had 594 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 3: an ability to talk things through. And I think you 595 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 3: don't want to just hold on to people because of 596 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 3: a length of time or this like false sense of loyalty, 597 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 3: which no one actually has a real definition for that word, 598 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 3: like it changes with everyone. If you look up the 599 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 3: definition of loyalty, it just means in affinity. For I'm 600 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 3: fond of I like, you have to really look at, like, 601 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 3: what is kind of doing life with a friend? Can 602 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 3: there be more grace for that? Can there be more ease? 603 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 3: Can we go six months without talking because we're both 604 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 3: in a different place and then come back together? I 605 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 3: think we would be allowed to. But yeah, being able 606 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 3: to kind of just evolve as equals at every step 607 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 3: is what I look for in friendship. And I'm also 608 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 3: okay with things not having to be that deep. There's 609 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 3: some people in my life I trust them to be 610 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 3: themselves and I show up as myself and I give 611 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 3: them what they can handle of me. 612 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 613 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 4: Now, how does people's mental health affect their physical health? 614 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 2: You don't pray for you don't pray about me every day? 615 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 4: You don't. 616 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 3: I was like, what is envy thinking over there? 617 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: I do thank God for you, you, thank God for 618 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: this whole situation. This situation changed our life. 619 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 2: We're openness with deep. I just want to know why 620 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 2: you never told. 621 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 5: Me that he like, I hear you don't say it, envy, 622 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 5: let me see what the blood is. 623 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: I hear womb talking. 624 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 4: I was asking about mental health affecting people's physical health too, 625 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 4: because I feel like that's a theme as well when 626 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 4: it comes to athletes, but the everyday person. 627 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 3: Oh my god, all of us, and now, thank god, 628 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 3: there's so much science and studies coming out to back 629 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 3: it up. There's phenomenal books on this. The Body keeps 630 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 3: the Score as an amazing book. Resma Meenican my grandmother's saying, 631 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 3: trauma is stored absolutely in the body. Our experiences don't 632 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 3: leave us. And that's why, you know, when we were 633 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 3: talking about kind of that approach to really heal, you 634 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 3: have to bring your body into it. So you have 635 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 3: to have different practices and processes that allow you to 636 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 3: love on your body, to kind of push out of 637 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 3: your cells, out of your skin, your experiences. So I 638 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 3: think even you know, if someone's in like a cognitive 639 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 3: therapy and maybe not ready for some of the other stuff, 640 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 3: I always say, book a massage appointment for after your 641 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 3: therapy appointment, and then think about the awarenesses that came 642 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 3: in as you're getting the massage, think about things you 643 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 3: want to release as you're getting the massage, or you 644 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 3: could do self massage, self stretching at home, because the 645 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 3: trauma absolutely stays with us. And I think we've seen 646 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 3: in our communities so many diseases, you know, so many 647 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 3: different things manifesting that it's just like, how is this possible? 648 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 3: It can't just be died, it can't just be this 649 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 3: like there is a there is a grief present that 650 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 3: is bringing on this sickness in people's bodies. And I 651 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 3: think it's just that's why we have to do that 652 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 3: kind of holistic approach. That was a massive part of 653 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 3: my journey. I was in therapy for many, many years, 654 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 3: and I understood a lot, but not much was actively changing. 655 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 3: And then when I came in and I started seeing 656 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 3: a somatic therapist, I started doing somatic processes that really 657 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 3: helped me to understand my body's reactions to every moment. 658 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 3: That's when I became really empowered. You could feel your 659 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 3: triggers in real time, but then also soothe them in 660 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 3: real time because on this healing journey, no matter what 661 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 3: you do, we're still on earth, We're still in this 662 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 3: crazy environment. Very often the people near us are not 663 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 3: changing in the ways that we are. So it's just 664 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 3: so so so incredibly important that we honor ourselves, that 665 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 3: we honor our bodies, that we come into a space 666 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 3: of being able to, you know, ideally get through our wounds, 667 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 3: our triggers faster. We're not just looking for happiness. I'm 668 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 3: I'm in my wholeness. I'm in my sovereignty. I am 669 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 3: deep in mastery on many different parts and also learning 670 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 3: in other pieces of myself. But you know, I look 671 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 3: at happiness for me, isn't the goal. The goal for 672 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 3: me is the fact that something that used to hurt me, 673 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 3: that I may ruminate over for a week, for a month, 674 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 3: that may make me feel sick to my stomach about myself. 675 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 3: Now if I think about it, it's two seconds I 676 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 3: felt it. Oh yeah, because that did happen to me. 677 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 3: I accept that and I release it and I move 678 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 3: into the next moment. So I think that's that's really 679 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 3: the goal for healing. 680 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 1: Let's stay of Let's second real quick, because I want 681 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: to know why is self care vital for black and 682 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: brown bodies. But I also want you to talk about 683 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: the energy healing you do. Like I mean, you know, 684 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: people saw a glimpse of you doing it the Draymond 685 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: on the Sessions we talk about that. 686 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that was my favorite part of doing 687 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 3: the show. We were in like the Redwoods. We were 688 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 3: in this forest in the bay and I got to 689 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 3: do reiki energy work on him. Energy work is incredible. 690 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,439 Speaker 3: It has changed my life. I think that I think 691 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 3: that our communities should be empowered with becoming facilitators of reiki, 692 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 3: of chakra healing, of energy work, and I think that 693 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 3: we should be using it on ourselves and in our 694 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 3: families daily. But energy work works with the energetic bodies. 695 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 3: So there is this field around you that is unseen 696 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 3: to the naked eye, but that is kind of the 697 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 3: energy that protects you that also magnetizes things to you 698 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 3: that can also be injured by different emotional wounds. And 699 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 3: energy is an ancient sacred practice, specifically reiki, where you 700 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 3: use your energy and you work with the person's energy 701 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 3: feel to bring healing into their environment. So it is 702 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 3: believed that this helps to heal and alleviate physical wounds, 703 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 3: mental wounds, emotional wounds, and it's also something that just 704 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 3: really allows you to feel enlivened, that gives you access 705 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 3: to the feeling of present moment, of groundedness, of peace 706 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 3: inside of your body. And I've done energy work on 707 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 3: you too. 708 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: It feels like a spiritual massage, like you could literally 709 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: feel things being removed from you as the energy, the 710 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: energy work is being done. Like you get up feeling 711 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 1: light like damn, what was on me? You know? Yeah, 712 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: that's how That's how I felt. 713 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 2: I was gonna ask, as mama bear right, if a 714 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 2: four year old, how do you raise him? Because you know, 715 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 2: you've been in the world. You know what's good, what's bad, 716 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 2: what's negative, what's positive? So you know, how do you 717 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 2: raise him? Do you put him in school? Do you 718 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 2: put him around of the kids whose maybe parents are 719 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 2: not on the align with what you what you do, 720 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 2: maybe not on the same journey. You know, even though 721 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 2: you might not give him social media, you know, his 722 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 2: friend might have it, or his friend might get things 723 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 2: from house. So how do you raise your four year old? 724 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 3: Oh? My god, that question is so hard. It's hard. 725 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 3: So you thought about it, God, not every day all day. 726 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 3: It's hard. You know. I think about my child every second, 727 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 3: so many things envy, you know, I feel like we're 728 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 3: all kind of on this journey of doing a lot 729 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 3: of lineage healing. We're bringing forward for our kids, maybe 730 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 3: things that never existed in our family systems. Ever, because 731 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 3: you think about the impact of slavery, you think about 732 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 3: the impact of all of the structural and societal oppression 733 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 3: that has existed since, and in black and brown communities, 734 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,919 Speaker 3: there has always been a wounding in the parent child 735 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 3: relationship to some degree. You have your outliers, you have 736 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 3: those you know, one in a neighborhood, healthy family sometimes 737 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 3: and then everyone else. It's like you just see this 738 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 3: lack of emotional regulation, lack of ability to be your 739 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 3: authentic self so much fear so for me knowing that 740 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 3: I can't control the world and also feeling the daily 741 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 3: grief of that when you have a child. The thing 742 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 3: that I really look to do with my son Questmandela, 743 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 3: I love you so much, is teach him how to 744 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 3: be aware of himself. I am not going to be 745 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 3: able to control everything that happens in his life, and 746 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 3: I don't want to hold him in an environment where 747 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 3: he's just wearing rose colored glasses. So I just look 748 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 3: to really build his emotional intelligence at a very young age. 749 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 3: And so a lot of that is using affirmative words. 750 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 3: Since he was an infant, I would sit over him 751 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 3: every night and I would say, you know, I love myself. 752 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 3: I am loving and kind, I am strong and resilient, 753 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 3: I am creative and curious. I am kind. And then 754 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 3: now he says them for himself every day. He says, 755 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 3: I love myself, I'm cherished, I'm valued by my mom. 756 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 3: You know, I'm teaching him the words that will help 757 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 3: build his core identity to be in a foundation of 758 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,280 Speaker 3: deep worth. And then I think, you know, what's important 759 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 3: is teaching them how to identify their emotions navigating in 760 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 3: the world. That's a skill so many of us didn't get. 761 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 3: And so with him, when he's upset, when he's happy, 762 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 3: I try to give him language for the things that 763 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,720 Speaker 3: he's feeling, even before he can use the words. And 764 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 3: when he's upset, you know, I ask him, do you 765 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 3: need a hug right now? You know, what are you feelings? 766 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 3: And he was like, I'm frustrated, I'm feeling frustrated, I'm 767 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 3: feeling upset, I'm feeling sad, and just greeting all of 768 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 3: that and not taking it personally and not letting it 769 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,359 Speaker 3: change the way I feel about myself. Or assume that 770 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 3: anything is wrong. I think that is one of the 771 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 3: things that comes up with even the best parents who 772 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 3: just want to shower their kids with love. Depending on 773 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 3: what our life experience is, parenting is one of the 774 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 3: most triggering things you could ever do in your life. 775 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 3: It shows you where all your own wounds lie. It 776 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 3: shows you where maybe things happen in your childhood that 777 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 3: were different and things that you maybe needed that you're 778 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 3: now giving your kid. So many of us are loving 779 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 3: our children in a way that we were never loved. 780 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 3: So I think just giving him the space to be 781 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 3: a kid as well is really important to me. Everyone 782 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 3: that meets my child is always like, he's the sweetest 783 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 3: guy ever, or he's so happy, or he's so this. 784 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 3: And because I'm not trying to shift his behavior, I'm 785 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 3: not telling him he needs to grow up faster. He's four. 786 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,879 Speaker 3: He doesn't need to be super sophisticated. He doesn't need 787 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 3: to have to know how to shake hands perfectly, or 788 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,760 Speaker 3: how to do this or that, or how to appear 789 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 3: like a little adult. He is his own being and 790 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:04,760 Speaker 3: I let him be himself. 791 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 2: Do you let him play sports? His dad play NFL football? 792 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 2: You talk to a lot of people in the sports world. 793 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 2: Do you allow him to play that? Because it feels like, 794 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 2: even in sports, they take this one emotion and they 795 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 2: make you use that motion against their opponents, right, And 796 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 2: it's usually anger, right, it's usually aggressive. Right. You never 797 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 2: seen a football play that's nice, like, Hey, how you 798 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 2: doing today? I'm gonna tackle you in a second. You 799 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 2: don't see that, you know. So do you allow him 800 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 2: to play football in sports? Because that's not something you 801 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 2: thought of already. 802 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 3: No, he will not play football, you know that, matter 803 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 3: of factly, And that's something that we really talked a 804 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 3: lot about, even during my pregnancy, and that is a 805 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 3: that is a wish and to desire from his father 806 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 3: as well. 807 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 2: No, it's it's because you know that he's four, but 808 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 2: he size of an eight year old. 809 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,399 Speaker 1: Coach is going to say, is let the record show 810 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: before he physically ever got here, I said that he 811 00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 1: was going to be seven feet tall, three hundred and fifty. 812 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 4: Well, what's the reason I knew that? 813 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, science is showing how much football can 814 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,800 Speaker 3: affect your brain, and I'm not willing to take that 815 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 3: risk with my child. And I think that some of 816 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 3: the science that is coming out is also showing that 817 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 3: kids as early as playing even flag football are getting concussions, 818 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 3: and that children who are even playing in high school 819 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 3: are showing effects of CTE. And I'm just I'm completely 820 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 3: unwilling to risk my child's brain. But I think, you know, 821 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 3: I'm open to other kind of sports. Like I always 822 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 3: say and laugh, I'm like, he can golf. We got volleyball, badmintonball, baseball, 823 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 3: you know basketball? Yeah, so no basketball, no boxing, no football, 824 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 3: nonis he can he can make his own choices when 825 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 3: he's an adult man. Yeah, he can run track. You know, 826 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 3: he can meditate, We could do yoga. 827 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 4: Lacrosse is on the come up across too, though I 828 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:03,439 Speaker 4: now lacrosse is tough. 829 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 3: There's some polo. 830 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 1: Now, let's talk about how a person can build a 831 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 1: daily self care like spiritual practice routine just start healing 832 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 1: and changing their life. How does a person do that? 833 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 3: Oh, this is the most important thing. And I know, 834 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,360 Speaker 3: I know you have yours. Now do you guys feel 835 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 3: like angel letting v You guys are have like your 836 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 3: morning routines and tradition for kind of. 837 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 4: Not for me in the morning so much. It'd be 838 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 4: more before I go to bed, before. 839 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 3: Bed, that's perfect too. I'm I do some in the morning, 840 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,919 Speaker 3: but always lam I mean, y'all wake up very early, 841 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 3: but my practice at night is where I get like, 842 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:44,320 Speaker 3: really really deeply connected. So everyone talks right now about changing, 843 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 3: about growing, transforming healing, you have to make it sustainable 844 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 3: so that it's actually becomes your lived experience and not 845 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 3: just something you speak but are not acting or living. 846 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,720 Speaker 3: That is what your daily practice does. And I think 847 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,720 Speaker 3: you know sometimes in the mainstream you hear the word 848 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 3: self care and it's like, yeah, girl, go shop in 849 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 3: have some self care. Oh, go take a bag, get 850 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 3: a massage. Yes, And your self care is it's really 851 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 3: the practice that supports your life, that supports your destiny, 852 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 3: that supports your healing. And so what you want to 853 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 3: do when you're building a practice, first, identify how much 854 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,399 Speaker 3: time you have. I know a lot of people work 855 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 3: really hard and have a lot of responsibilities. So even 856 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 3: if only five minutes is possible, please please try to 857 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 3: gift yourself with this. But if you can be more 858 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 3: expansive and spend thirty minutes, spend an hour, that could 859 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 3: be really powerful. What you want to do is you 860 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 3: want to build your daily practice around the four pillars 861 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 3: of wholeness, which is mental, physical, emotional, and spiritual. You 862 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,800 Speaker 3: want to find something to do every day that falls 863 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 3: in one of those categories, and so that could look 864 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 3: like For mental, that could look like journaling, just getting 865 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 3: your thoughts out. It doesn't have to be dear diary style. 866 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,399 Speaker 3: It could be a couple bullet points, so it could 867 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,799 Speaker 3: be wow, I noticed that I keep thinking about this 868 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 3: one thought every day. It helps to build or reestablish 869 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 3: your intuition, which is also something that a lot of 870 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 3: people lack because they so often go against what their 871 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 3: gut tells them to do. Our intuition is our soul's GPS. 872 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,919 Speaker 3: It's our guiding system as the human experience. So it's 873 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,439 Speaker 3: really important that we ignite that ability in ourselves. That's 874 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 3: the mental category. Looking at the emotional category, that could 875 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 3: be meditation every day, you know, really sitting getting still, 876 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 3: getting quiet, and opening up your internal world, really coming 877 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 3: into a space of knowing how to be with yourself, 878 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,879 Speaker 3: how to meet yourself, how to remember all of who 879 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 3: you truly are, outside of the roles that we play 880 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 3: in life, outside of the things that have happened to us. 881 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 3: You look at physical for some that's a workout, like 882 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,279 Speaker 3: I know you'all be working out. Everybody be working out 883 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 3: every day, But that could also look like a daily 884 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,799 Speaker 3: stretch practice. That could look like yo, that could look 885 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 3: like remembering to massage your own shoulders at the end 886 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 3: of the night because you're aching and you deserve your 887 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 3: own touch. And then if we look at the spiritual category, 888 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 3: that could really look like affirmations every day speaking life 889 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 3: over yourself. And let's take it a step deeper than 890 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 3: some of the ones of like I am abundance or 891 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,760 Speaker 3: I am love or I am strong. Really call forward 892 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 3: what you want to embody. You know, one of my 893 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 3: first affirmations and my healing journey was I'm a precious 894 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 3: child of God, leading, leading from my heart's center. Yeah, 895 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:37,800 Speaker 3: I think that was a piece of it. I'm a 896 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 3: precious child of God, leading from my soul's center, working 897 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 3: in mastery of my being. Saying that over myself every 898 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 3: day changed me. So doing something every day that supports 899 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 3: who you are and who you're becoming and who you 900 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 3: have become is essential. It also teaches you emotional regulation, 901 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,400 Speaker 3: which means that every day you can go into the 902 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 3: world as your true self and not as the version 903 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,240 Speaker 3: of you that's constantly reacting to things. 904 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 1: So I got to update my mantra. That's the mantra 905 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 1: I've gotten. We was in Mexico. 906 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, it's an update, okay. And I always say, 907 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,920 Speaker 3: when it comes to when it comes to our affirmations, 908 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:22,320 Speaker 3: our mantras keep evolving them. Once you feel that something 909 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 3: clicked into place and you have really been wearing that, 910 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 3: let's hit something else, you know, maybe start to notice 911 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 3: what are some other little crevices of my life that 912 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,280 Speaker 3: I want to refine. If I feel that I've healed 913 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,800 Speaker 3: my or really done a lot of work around my trauma, 914 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 3: maybe now I want to start to investigate. What's my 915 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 3: relationship to money, what's my relationship to prosperity. Let me 916 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 3: heal that dynamic. What's my relationship to the masculine to 917 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 3: the feminine in my life? Let me look at healing 918 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:56,240 Speaker 3: or evolving that experience. But there's always more, there's always deeper. 919 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,879 Speaker 1: Why is it being on a healing journey so comp 920 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:01,839 Speaker 1: and so exhausting. 921 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 3: Because our lived experiences are you know, we are to 922 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,880 Speaker 3: be alive and to be human is to be deeply 923 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 3: challenged every day, you know, for a lot of people 924 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 3: that meant having really challenging experiences as young people, as adults. 925 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,240 Speaker 3: For others, it's just turning the news on every day 926 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 3: and seeing how painful it is to be a witness 927 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:32,359 Speaker 3: to so much tragedy, especially so much tragedy that you know, 928 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,120 Speaker 3: we don't really have the opportunity to shift fully. It's 929 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 3: hard to behold all that we're seeing right now. 930 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 4: It is, and. 931 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 3: We're doing this very dualistic job of staying present in 932 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 3: our lives, updating our social media, doing all the things, 933 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 3: raising our kids, doing the things, and seeing people shot 934 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,959 Speaker 3: dead on a daily basis. You know that we don't 935 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 3: even know the long term effects of taking on this 936 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,400 Speaker 3: much grief every day, which is another reason why having 937 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 3: that daily practice it makes it not just easier, but 938 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 3: it does give you the opportunity to have more joy 939 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 3: even through the midst of all of this. 940 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you, you know, with especially with kids, 941 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 2: I'm noticing and I'm seeing kids are more emotional, right, Yeah, 942 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 2: They're more explaining their feelings, expressing their feelings, trying to 943 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 2: find themselves at an early age. 944 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 1: Is that a good or bad thing? 945 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 3: Right? 946 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 2: And the reason I'm asking most people be like, Oh, 947 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,360 Speaker 2: that's a good thing. But I'm seeing a lot of 948 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,759 Speaker 2: kids not being able to find themselves and hurting themselves, 949 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 2: committing suicide or being very quote unquote emo as kids say, 950 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 2: So is that a good thing a bad thing? Because 951 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 2: as a kid, that's one thing I don't think I 952 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 2: thought about. I don't know if anybody else in the 953 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 2: room thought of As a kid, I didn't think about 954 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,319 Speaker 2: how I felt. I just went outside and had fun. 955 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 2: I went to school because I had to. I ate 956 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 2: because I had to. Nowadays, you know, kids are you know, 957 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,880 Speaker 2: they're finding out more about themselves. They're telling you why 958 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 2: they don't want to eat vegetables. There, it's more of that. 959 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 2: But it's that good or is that bad? 960 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,799 Speaker 1: I think because we're encouraging conversation. Like I know, growing up, 961 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,319 Speaker 1: I my dad shut up, punched me in the chest, 962 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like we were taught to 963 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 1: suppress our emotions a lot of time. 964 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and on. You know, from my view as 965 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,440 Speaker 3: a kid, I was always talking about my feelings to 966 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,799 Speaker 3: the point that it made all the adults in my 967 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 3: life really irritated. And so then you kind of hide 968 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,480 Speaker 3: them a little bit. I think there you know, there 969 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 3: is no good or bad, and I think that it's 970 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 3: both at the same time. And what I think is 971 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,840 Speaker 3: so important about being a conscious and active parent in 972 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 3: your child's life is really witnessing them for themselves, not 973 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 3: through our lens of projection of who we want them 974 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,840 Speaker 3: to be or who we were at their age, but 975 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 3: looking and saying, you know, if my child is this way, 976 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 3: if they are quote unquote emo, or if they are 977 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 3: a deep feeler or feeling this pressure to know who 978 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 3: they are, how can I one soothe that a little bit? 979 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 3: You know? How can I make that more of a 980 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 3: gentle experience for them and the words they use with themselves? 981 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,560 Speaker 3: And then also how can I support that? How can 982 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,480 Speaker 3: I if the community they need for who they are 983 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,719 Speaker 3: is not around them, how can I look to supplement 984 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,879 Speaker 3: that in their lives? In some ways, I think it's both. 985 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,200 Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's incredible that kids are as 986 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 3: self aware as they are. It's kind of mind blowing, 987 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 3: you know. I work with a lot of gen z 988 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 3: Like I just taught for a semester in Atlanta with 989 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,360 Speaker 3: this group of young men who were roughly around the 990 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 3: age of sixteen. So many of the things that I 991 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,240 Speaker 3: was teaching them, they were so familiar with those concepts already, 992 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 3: which was like, what, how do y'all know how you 993 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,799 Speaker 3: feel already? But then at the same time, it can 994 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:43,279 Speaker 3: become too much of a focus to where you're not 995 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,879 Speaker 3: giving yourself the chance to be something new, to learn 996 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:47,480 Speaker 3: new things. 997 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,279 Speaker 1: I have two more questions in the action I want 998 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 1: to ask of you. But first question is what does 999 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 1: self acceptance look like? 1000 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:06,400 Speaker 3: Self acceptance looks like deep surrender and deep trust. To 1001 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 3: accept yourself means that you are aware of all that 1002 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,839 Speaker 3: you are, including the things that may be a little 1003 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 3: bit unfinished or the things that you may have judged, 1004 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 3: but to know that it all serves purpose. To have 1005 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,319 Speaker 3: acceptance is to also have this trust that I may 1006 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,839 Speaker 3: not like everything that's happening right now or that has 1007 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 3: happened to me, but I do understand and trust that 1008 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,440 Speaker 3: it is serving a purpose I don't yet know, And 1009 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 3: so I am an acceptance of what currently is. Doesn't 1010 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 3: mean you don't want it to change, doesn't mean it 1011 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 3: doesn't have the potential to change. But I'm an acceptance 1012 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,719 Speaker 3: that this just is. When you come into acceptance, you 1013 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 3: come into your personal power because you're not trying to 1014 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 3: fight everything. You're not trying to control every outcome. You're 1015 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 3: creating this space for more to unfold. And that's where 1016 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,319 Speaker 3: you get to be creative with yourself. You get to 1017 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,560 Speaker 3: be creative with your life. You get to be a 1018 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 3: co creator of what this journey will look like for you. 1019 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,239 Speaker 3: But you have to be an acceptance. If you're in 1020 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,360 Speaker 3: judgment of yourself, if you're in judgment of your life experiences, 1021 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,839 Speaker 3: it makes it almost impossible to change any of them 1022 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,360 Speaker 3: in a really meaningful way. 1023 00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,800 Speaker 1: Is that the first step to beginning to love yourself? 1024 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,160 Speaker 1: Because that's my second question, How do you begin to 1025 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:23,880 Speaker 1: love yourself? 1026 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 3: I think they're kind of both happening at the same time, 1027 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 3: But I will say, you know, to love yourself, it's 1028 00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,280 Speaker 3: a constantly evolving process. But I think it does require 1029 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 3: that daily practice that I talked about. Loving yourself requires 1030 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:41,760 Speaker 3: your own sweat equity into yourself and your body. Loving 1031 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,399 Speaker 3: yourself can't be related to how really you look, how 1032 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,160 Speaker 3: other people are validating you or not, how they're treating you. 1033 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,360 Speaker 3: It has to be like I exist and that's enough, 1034 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,360 Speaker 3: and that alone is worthy of love. I am breathing 1035 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 3: right now. That is worthy of love that is worthy 1036 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 3: of gratitude, no matter who I've been, no matter what 1037 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 3: choices I want to redo, there is more to me 1038 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 3: than one definition. 1039 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, the action I want to ask is, like, 1040 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 1: you know, I know we have a lot of people 1041 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 1: listening right now. They might have seen the sessions they 1042 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 1: you know, probably listening to dropping gems. I want to 1043 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 1: do like a mindfulness minute, Like what's what's a breathing exercise? 1044 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 1: Is something that we could do to like just ground 1045 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:25,400 Speaker 1: people right now in this moment. 1046 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,080 Speaker 3: I would love to are you guys all going to 1047 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 3: do with me? 1048 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:28,800 Speaker 1: Sure? Okay? 1049 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 3: I want to ask everybody right now listening connecting to 1050 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 3: the sound of my voice, Angela envshar come into a 1051 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 3: relaxed state with your body, and I want to invite 1052 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,279 Speaker 3: you to gently close your eyes and if you can 1053 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,520 Speaker 3: just uncross your arms a little bit and let your 1054 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:53,360 Speaker 3: back sit really supported, let your spine feels straight and supported. 1055 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 3: And I want you to just notice your body now 1056 00:54:56,200 --> 00:55:00,000 Speaker 3: with your eyes closed, and notice how your seat feels, 1057 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,440 Speaker 3: how you feel in your seat, and just see if 1058 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,600 Speaker 3: there's an opportunity to feel a little softer inside of 1059 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 3: your body right now in this moment, release any tension 1060 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,840 Speaker 3: that may be in your shoulders. Let your forearms just 1061 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,800 Speaker 3: be really gently on the tops of your thighs. Maybe 1062 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 3: turn your palms upward into a state of receiving. Unclench 1063 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:31,640 Speaker 3: your jaw there's any pressure present, and now let yourself 1064 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,320 Speaker 3: just stretch your neck a little bit from side to side. 1065 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 3: Your eyes are closed, and now let's connect to our breath. First. 1066 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,279 Speaker 3: Begin to notice how your natural breath is feeling in 1067 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 3: your body, how it feels in your chest, in and out, 1068 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 3: supporting your existence. And now I want to invite you 1069 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,920 Speaker 3: to take your right hand and place it over your chest, 1070 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:07,120 Speaker 3: right at your heart center. And now just notice what 1071 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,320 Speaker 3: that pressure of your hand feels like. Would you like 1072 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,719 Speaker 3: it to be a firmer touch, a lighter touch. Can 1073 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,080 Speaker 3: the palm of your hand connect to the core of 1074 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:22,840 Speaker 3: your heart? And just notice the support that you feel 1075 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 3: in your body holding yourself in this way. And now 1076 00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:31,319 Speaker 3: we're gonna begin some deep breathing through her noses. We're 1077 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:35,399 Speaker 3: gonna do some big inhales through her nose and then 1078 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 3: out of our nose, and we'll do this three times together. 1079 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:43,680 Speaker 3: And what we're looking to do is take a big 1080 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:51,239 Speaker 3: deep inhale, slowly fully starting now filling your chest and 1081 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,879 Speaker 3: really stretch, take it a little more air, and then 1082 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,880 Speaker 3: hold the air at the top once it's in, allow 1083 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:03,000 Speaker 3: it to circulate for moment. And now as we breathe 1084 00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:04,960 Speaker 3: out of our nose, I want you to do it 1085 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:10,000 Speaker 3: slowly and fully, really pace yourself on that exhale, let 1086 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:14,040 Speaker 3: it all come out. And now we'll begin that breath 1087 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:21,640 Speaker 3: again in through your nose, let your chest expand your 1088 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:32,280 Speaker 3: heart open, hold it and release. And now begin again 1089 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:43,280 Speaker 3: in through your nose and hold it and release that breath. 1090 00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 3: And I still gently closed hand over heart, allow yourself 1091 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:55,920 Speaker 3: to return to whatever breath feels natural and nourishing and internally. 1092 00:57:56,040 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 3: Right now, silently to yourself, I'd like you to repeat, 1093 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,760 Speaker 3: I am calling forward my highest self. 1094 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 1: I am calling forward my highest self. I am calling 1095 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:12,600 Speaker 1: forward my highest self. 1096 00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:18,960 Speaker 3: I am calling forward my highest self. And I want 1097 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 3: you to think about something currently present in your life, 1098 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,360 Speaker 3: something that has charged it could be perceived as good 1099 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 3: as challenging, but something that you've really been chewing on lately, 1100 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:36,640 Speaker 3: some dynamic maybe in your life or relationship, or something 1101 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,800 Speaker 3: you're excited about. And I would just want you to 1102 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,880 Speaker 3: hold that seed in your mind's eye, whatever is unique 1103 00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,240 Speaker 3: to you that you are working with in this moment, 1104 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,000 Speaker 3: and I want you to think about any nourishing or 1105 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:59,760 Speaker 3: evolutionary choices or lens of perceptions that you can shift 1106 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,960 Speaker 3: to around whatever this morsel is that you're chewing on, 1107 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:09,680 Speaker 3: whatever is present. Is it about surrendering, Is it about 1108 00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:15,320 Speaker 3: an action step, or is it just an observation something 1109 00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:21,080 Speaker 3: that can be released and now based on your unique 1110 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,439 Speaker 3: experience that you're holding in your mind and your heart, 1111 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,800 Speaker 3: I want you to think of an intention around it. 1112 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 3: And maybe it is my intention is to release this, 1113 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,960 Speaker 3: or my intention is to really feel all of this, 1114 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 3: or my intention is to manifest this, and silently within 1115 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:52,440 Speaker 3: your own hearts to yourselves, I want you to state 1116 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:56,960 Speaker 3: that intention my intention is, and you can do it 1117 00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 3: inside in this moment, and everyone connecting to the sound 1118 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:03,960 Speaker 3: of my voice listening, I hope you're doing the same. 1119 01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,120 Speaker 3: And now we're going to do a cleansing lion's breath, 1120 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,320 Speaker 3: which is gonna be a deep in hell through your nose, 1121 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 3: and then it'll be followed out by signing it out 1122 01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 3: through your mouth with your tongue out and it'll sound 1123 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:27,000 Speaker 3: a little like this, So we'll begin our in hell 1124 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:39,320 Speaker 3: now through our noses and release through your mouth. And 1125 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,840 Speaker 3: now shake out your hand that was on your heart, 1126 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 3: allow it to drop back down to the tops of 1127 01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:50,560 Speaker 3: your thighs. And as you feel ready, gently open your eyes. Ah, 1128 01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:54,439 Speaker 3: how do you guys feel? 1129 01:00:58,440 --> 01:00:59,640 Speaker 1: How can I want to sleep this night? 1130 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:01,000 Speaker 2: Oh? 1131 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,080 Speaker 1: I want to do that. I've been telling iHeart for 1132 01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:07,560 Speaker 1: the longest. We need a mindfulness minute on the radio 1133 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,440 Speaker 1: during the middays. I've screamed into a million different executives. 1134 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:13,240 Speaker 1: It needs to happen. 1135 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,760 Speaker 3: People need that, and you know that experience that we 1136 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:19,480 Speaker 3: just did, and everyone could start and end their day 1137 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:23,040 Speaker 3: like that. We probably spent maybe a minute there. If 1138 01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,200 Speaker 3: I wasn't talking and you just did the breath with them, 1139 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:29,800 Speaker 3: maybe thirty seconds. That is a daily practice. What we 1140 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,280 Speaker 3: just did that was breathwork. So that's an experience that 1141 01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:36,720 Speaker 3: you can invite into your life to regulate your nervousness. Yes, 1142 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:40,240 Speaker 3: because what was happening internally as we did that was 1143 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,440 Speaker 3: our body was able to come into the present moment. 1144 01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,240 Speaker 3: We were in the moment of what is We were 1145 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,760 Speaker 3: inside of our bodies. Many people that heard my voice 1146 01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,720 Speaker 3: were connecting to parts of their bodies for the first time. 1147 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,920 Speaker 3: If you're under deep stress or you have had trauma, 1148 01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:59,840 Speaker 3: you don't feel present in your body, and so to 1149 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,480 Speaker 3: just be able to settle into yourself and then to 1150 01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:07,720 Speaker 3: give yourself that nourishing breath that resets your emotional center, 1151 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:13,760 Speaker 3: it changes what's possible. The thing about trauma, depression, stress, anxiety, 1152 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:17,120 Speaker 3: it limits what's possible in your life because it limits 1153 01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,080 Speaker 3: the choices you make and how you view yourself. When 1154 01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,280 Speaker 3: you have daily practice and when you do a breath 1155 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,439 Speaker 3: like that, it reconnects you to the truth of who 1156 01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,480 Speaker 3: you are when you're coming from your authenticity, when you're 1157 01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:33,000 Speaker 3: not triggered, and from that space, it's limitless because you're 1158 01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:36,960 Speaker 3: able to make endless amounts of choices of who you'll be, 1159 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,920 Speaker 3: how you'll behave, what you'll do. And that's what so 1160 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:41,959 Speaker 3: many of us need. We just need to be able 1161 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,200 Speaker 3: to be anchored into the moment, to feel like ourselves 1162 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,120 Speaker 3: inside so that we can make the decisions that really 1163 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:48,840 Speaker 3: honor our lives. 1164 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:52,640 Speaker 1: If you do with panic attacks, anxiety attacks at work, school, whatever, 1165 01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,320 Speaker 1: it is like that that gets you right back to 1166 01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:56,120 Speaker 1: where you need to be. 1167 01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,680 Speaker 2: Well, Thank you so much, Debbie for v brand. 1168 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,000 Speaker 3: Tell them where to follow you dev hit me on 1169 01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,240 Speaker 3: Instagram at Debbie Brown, my website Debbie Brown, and on 1170 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:10,800 Speaker 3: Amazon Prime Video. Watch the Sessions. It is an incredible, 1171 01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:15,880 Speaker 3: incredible documentary by Religion of Sports, myself, Deepak Chopra, and 1172 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 3: NBA superstar Draymond Green. 1173 01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,000 Speaker 4: Are there going to be other sessions? 1174 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,480 Speaker 3: There are going to be other sessions, and we're really excited. 1175 01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:26,040 Speaker 3: I can't say anything yet, but we're really excited about 1176 01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,320 Speaker 3: how that is going to unfold. But that is definitely 1177 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,160 Speaker 3: the intention. You know, one of the things I love 1178 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,439 Speaker 3: about the work that I do is supporting people who 1179 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,400 Speaker 3: have lives of high impact. You know, when you can 1180 01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,120 Speaker 3: show up in this life of impact that you're living 1181 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,600 Speaker 3: as all of yourself, how you're actually meant to change 1182 01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,320 Speaker 3: the world becomes more alive and more possible. 1183 01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,160 Speaker 1: And pick up Debbie Brown's book, Crystal Bliss. Your Devil 1184 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,800 Speaker 1: was talking about crystals way before everybody else was. That 1185 01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:57,280 Speaker 1: book dropped in with twenty fourteen yeh twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, 1186 01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,880 Speaker 1: Like yeah, And make sure you subscribe to V's podcast 1187 01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,400 Speaker 1: Dropping Gems on the Black Effect Podcast Network. 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