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Speaker 1: What's up Vatchination.

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Speaker 2: I'm Joe and I'm Serena, and we.

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Speaker 1: Are back with another episode of Bacheler Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling?

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Speaker 2: To be honest, I'm feeling at a little tired and

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Speaker 2: a little sick today, but happy to be here recapping hometowns.

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Speaker 1: You've been feeling that way all day?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not I'm not my best today. I'm not

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Speaker 2: at my best.

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Speaker 1: You're struggling at the gym.

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Speaker 2: I was. I did a good twenty minutes on the stairs,

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Speaker 2: and then I laid in the steam room of the

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Speaker 2: sauna for about another twenty minutes, which I was trying

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Speaker 2: to sweat out all the toxins. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: it worked or not.

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Speaker 1: I've been in a bad mood all day. I was

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Speaker 1: in a bad mood at the gym. I've been like

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Speaker 1: in a pouty mood.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been grumpy today.

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Speaker 1: But I did a cold punge before this podcast.

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Speaker 2: I thought you were just hungry, which is why I

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Speaker 2: ordered us Chipotle. But no, didn't solve the issue.

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Speaker 1: I'm still mad for no reason.

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Speaker 2: What are you so mad about?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. It's just one of

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Speaker 1: those days.

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Speaker 2: It's just off in this household today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, something up in the air in this in

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Speaker 1: this apartment. I was feeling it last night when we

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Speaker 1: were watching The Great and I was like, disapartment.

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Speaker 2: The function by Maybe we just need to do a

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Speaker 2: little clean up, organization.

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Speaker 1: Or sage save age.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. Wow. We're starting this podcast often kind of

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Speaker 2: a depressed no.

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Speaker 1: But we're not because the episode was fun, we enjoyed it,

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Speaker 1: we watched it together, and it's probably better that we're

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Speaker 1: gonna recap it angry, like Joey's uncle. Joey's uncle was

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Speaker 1: a little angry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got some Joey's Uncle energy in this house today.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's anything else new before we get into the episode.

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Speaker 1: I did find the Talks.

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Speaker 2: Joe found a tux to the webbit. If you've been

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Speaker 2: listening to us on this podcast or on any other

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Speaker 2: podcast we've done recently, it has been a struggle, but

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Speaker 2: we went out this weekend and found one, and.

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Speaker 1: It took forever. They had to keep going down to

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Speaker 1: the basement to get sizes, and I don't know why

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Speaker 1: they didn't bring up multiple sizes at once to get

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Speaker 1: fitted for a Talks and I'm not talking about like

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Speaker 1: this crazy you know set up here. We're pants in a.

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Speaker 2: Jacket, not even a shirt.

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Speaker 1: It took an hour and twenty minutes.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're being generous. I'm going to go

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Speaker 2: an hour forty five.

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Speaker 1: That was it. It was totally insane.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we won't say the name of the brand because

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Speaker 2: we really like this brand, but it was one of

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Speaker 2: the most insane service experience I've ever had in a

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Speaker 1: He just kept saying, we're under staff. I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: know you're under staff, but just bring three sizes up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It was just incredibly inefficient and so frustrating, to

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Speaker 2: the point I did have to walk out for the

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Speaker 2: last ten minutes so I can't be in her anymore.

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Speaker 2: I cannot be in this store anymore. But it was

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Speaker 2: all worth it. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: the tuxa is going to look gorgeous on you, and

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Speaker 2: I'm very excited that we can check that off our list.

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Speaker 1: All right, so let's recap the episode. We have hometown

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Speaker 1: episodes Serena's least favorite episode. I actually really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: I like hometowns. I never really watch them, but I

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Usually I do say every time I go on

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Speaker 2: I think it's just because I really liked all the families,

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Speaker 1: It also, the families were all different, had different energies,

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Speaker 2: And it was just Yes, for some reason, it didn't

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So first hometown we are in Houston, Texas. It

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Speaker 1: is Aaron. Aaron is the man who got the first

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Speaker 1: Think she is physically attracted to Aaron. I think Aaron's

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Speaker 2: out our interview with Charity, she did talk about how

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Speaker 2: she wasn't a fan of him bringing the brad and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which always happens, Always happens. We're never going to

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Speaker 1: So at the house, a spread of food the mom's

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Speaker 2: And then like right from the Gecko's conversation with his brother,

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Speaker 1: But we'll get into that. So his mom and Charity

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Speaker 1: There's three other guys there, and Aaron's the first guy.

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Speaker 2: No is the right answer in my opinion, Like, I

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Speaker 2: would accept his proposal. Shows over, then shows over. What

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the answer she basically had to give. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Charity talks to Aaron's dad. He mentions, like we do Christmas.

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Speaker 2: I know that's a very my dad move. Man.

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Speaker 1: Hey, And I heard you say like, oh, she's got

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Speaker 2: Too, Yeah, because my parents would be the ones to

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Speaker 2: be like, all right, like we're celebrating holidays together and

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Speaker 1: He's like, just so you know, we do Christmas. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: But no, I liked it. I thought it was cute.

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Speaker 1: But it was nice seeing Aaron like he was. You

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really nice. This film was lovely. And

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Speaker 2: then they go to the football field they wear matching.

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Speaker 1: And then they do a throwback to the Laura and

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Speaker 1: No, yeah, And I almost feel like he felt that

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I was actually falling in love

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Speaker 1: I think it was all a moment for him because

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Speaker 1: that day was such a high for him. Yeah, it

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Speaker 2: And I think that's not uncommon. I think there's definitely

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Speaker 2: really a shock at all at this point, because this

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Speaker 1: Leaves the date feeling good. Ended well great, Okay, so

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Speaker 1: Aaron at this point, he's still in the running. He's

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to College Hill, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: Date number two.

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Speaker 1: Date number two. We are at Joey's family's house.

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Speaker 2: Yes, which is a beautiful home.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful home. We meet his dad, we meet his mom,

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Speaker 2: drive in movie and the movie with like baby photos

441
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Speaker 2: of them. It was just so cute. It was very thoughtful.

442
00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, well let's uh, I agree, but let's talk about

443
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,880
Speaker 1: Thoughton's parents real quick, because they we just like kind

444
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 1: of skimmed over that. But they end up showing up

445
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,399
Speaker 1: and he I wrote down, He's like, he's so happy

446
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 1: my parents showed up. But it does come with his challenges.

447
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:46,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he dis it.

448
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:51,159
Speaker 1: My mom is My mom is very critical and his

449
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,239
Speaker 1: mom she she couldn't she was wasn't critical at all

450
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:55,960
Speaker 1: of charity.

451
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 2: At least we saw no. But she like loved her,

452
00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 2: which is great.

453
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's like, I'm gonna throw don't worry, I'm

454
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 1: gonna throw a massive wedding for you, and we're gonna

455
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 1: have a great time.

456
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 2: Yeah it was awesome.

457
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,199
Speaker 1: But yeah, then we jumped to the end portion of

458
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,919
Speaker 1: the hometown and yeah, it's the cute date and Dotton

459
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 1: and her take a thunderbird up to the drive in

460
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,879
Speaker 1: Movies and watch a movie and see baby pictures of themselves,

461
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,399
Speaker 1: which I find always so weird.

462
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 2: Why.

463
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,679
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just kind of wish. I'm like,

464
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 1: I wish you were just watching a regular movie.

465
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was like something special for them to

466
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 2: like experience together, I guess. And like he obviously put

467
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 2: more time and effort into that than he would have

468
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,440
Speaker 2: if he just thrown like Titanic.

469
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree, I agree, And that kind of

470
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,919
Speaker 1: that wraps up the hometowns and then we see we

471
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: go to this like hangar where we do the rose

472
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,880
Speaker 1: ceremony and all four guys are there.

473
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 2: Oh my god, wait, why did they so before that happened,

474
00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:01,199
Speaker 2: they did a chat with Charity and Jesse. Why did

475
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 2: they keep putting Jesse's age? Yeah, putting his bio as

476
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 2: if he's contested. I'm like, showing this man some respect.

477
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 2: It literally is like Jesse Palmer age forty whatever, host

478
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 2: as like occupation.

479
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 1: Just in case you forgot, Jesse is in his mid forties. Yeah,

480
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 1: it's it is. It's it's weird.

481
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,919
Speaker 2: It's just so funny to be like, I'm like, did

482
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 2: they used to do? Have they done this before? Is

483
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 2: this new?

484
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 1: Yeah?

485
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 2: I don't think they have.

486
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: They've been They've been. Jesse's age has been there the

487
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 1: whole time, because I think I said something like episode one, No.

488
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 2: This season, I know, but like over the years.

489
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 1: I feel like they did it for Zach season two. Yeah,

490
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,640
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I mean, we'd have to we'd

491
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 1: have to go back and uh, we'd have to go

492
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 1: back and check. But let's uh.

493
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 2: Also, I have to comment on Charity's outfit. This is

494
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 2: the outfit she was most excited about, and she said

495
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,360
Speaker 2: this was her favorite outfit, and I agree. This outfit

496
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 2: was so good. Oh my god, this dress was amazing.

497
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 1: Which dress my.

498
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 2: Wedding dresses that I've got for our wedding and just

499
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 2: wear that dress in white? I absolutely would for the

500
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 2: whole weekend, for all of our events. It was so good.

501
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: Geez, that's that's that's a that's a bold statement right now.

502
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I can make it because I know

503
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 2: it's not going to happen.

504
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 1: You just dumped all your wedding dresses.

505
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 2: That would be crazy. But I really love this dress.

506
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 2: It looked amazing on her.

507
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: Okay, So then we are we're at the Rose ceremony

508
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: and we have four guys and she ends up. We're

509
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 1: not sure it's really between Donton gets a rose, Xavier

510
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 1: gets a rose, and it's really between Joey and Aaron,

511
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: and I honestly this is usually I'm like, I know

512
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: who she's giving a rose to. I really didn't know.

513
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: And she ended up not giving it to Aaron, giving

514
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: the rose to Joey, and she's really upset. She when

515
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: he leaves, She's like, I think I made a huge mistake.

516
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: I can't tell I think like Aaron's upset. I just

517
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I felt like it never

518
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: their relationship, in my opinion, never really like got there.

519
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, Just like I definitely saw a

520
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 2: really strong connection with them on their first day at

521
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 2: the beginning of the season. I just felt like, at

522
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,479
Speaker 2: least as a viewer, it did look like it kind

523
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 2: of tapered off. And I do think the brain drama

524
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 2: had a little bit to do with that, but I

525
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 2: also just think she had stronger connections with other people.

526
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 2: I was really surprised by how this breakup went. I'm

527
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 2: always shocked when the lead doesn't have like something prepared

528
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 2: at like almost like a little breakup paragraph of like

529
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 2: this is what I want to say to you know,

530
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 2: they're going into a breakup, like when the person that's

531
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 2: getting dumped doesn't know what to say, like I get it,

532
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 2: they're in shock. But when Charity was like bawling her

533
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 2: eyes out understandably, like she clearly has a really hard

534
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 2: time breaking up with people, and makes sense like she

535
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 2: cares about them, she just want to hurt their feelings.

536
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 2: But she couldn't give him an explanation of why she

537
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 2: was doing it, and that really threw me off because

538
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: I was like, but you've got to have a reason,

539
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 2: and I think she was falling in love with him.

540
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 2: I don't know even if the reason was just like

541
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 2: I have stronger feelings with other people.

542
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe she went in there though truly.

543
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 2: Not not knowing what she was going to do in

544
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 2: the moment, made the decision on the spot. Yeah, yeah,

545
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 2: maybe because that would kind of make a little more

546
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 2: sense to me. Yeah, And she did give kind of

547
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 2: a speech at the beginning, basically say I've been going

548
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 2: back and forth on this. I really didn't know what

549
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 2: to do here.

550
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: I mean, if I had I if I were to

551
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: take just a while, guess I would say there was

552
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: a good chance she was probably like, I'm going to

553
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: send Joey home and then saw Joey and probably felt like, no,

554
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: maybe it's too.

555
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: Soon, and really flipped to wow.

556
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: The end portion of Aaron's state, the only one that

557
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: ended rough was Joey's state.

558
00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 2: Yes, Aaron's went really well, and so did Xaviers and

559
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 2: so did Dawton's. So if she's going based on that week,

560
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 2: like Joey had the worst date, But I just think

561
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 2: it's so hard, like they've had such a steady connection

562
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 2: this whole time. I would have been really surprised if

563
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: she sent him home.

564
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree, I agree, just after that, especially

565
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: because it wasn't like it really was it was the

566
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: whole Uncle's situation. It wasn't like it was anything that

567
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: Joey actually did.

568
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what, we see the promo for

569
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 2: next week, and we've seen in the super teaser midway

570
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 2: through the season that someone comes back and you and

571
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 2: I both thought it was an ex Yeah, but now

572
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: after watching the breakup between Aaron B and Charity and

573
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 2: seeing I feel like she left him with no closure,

574
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 2: And I feel like if I'm sitting there and someone's

575
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: crying saying like I don't know if I'm making the

576
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 2: right decision, Like I don't know if I should be

577
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 2: doing this, and I'm like in love with that person,

578
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 2: Like maybe I'll go back and try to see if

579
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: they've made a mistake, you know, if they have any regrets.

580
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 2: I feel like it could be Aaron or am I

581
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 2: I wouldn't I wouldn't be mad to see him again either.

582
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: I completely agree. I think I they get me every year.

583
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: I think with this because it probably is Nea Mayah

584
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: and it's probably not a big thing, but I think, Yeah,

585
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: at first, I was like, oh, is that an acts?

586
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: But I think it might be Aaron because it does

587
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: make sense because if Aaron is now being told like hey,

588
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: like she might be pondering this, like she she may

589
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: have made a mistake, like he is, probably like Okay,

590
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: I'll take one more last shot. Yeah, so we'll see.

591
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: That's that's coming up next week. But I think that

592
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: wraps this episode. And later in the week we have

593
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,479
Speaker 1: Jared Freed coming from The Bachelor, So yeah, that wraps everything.

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00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: Make sure to subscribe if you're not already, because we

595
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 1: are dropping our exclusive interview with Jared and hearing more

596
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: about his story later this week.

597
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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. Be sure to tune in later this

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Speaker 2: week and next week were more exclusive interviews like hey

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