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Speaker 1: Here's a full blueprint. Alright, the full blueprint is coming

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Speaker 1: We're gonna map it out for you and tell you

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Speaker 1: You know, typically they have that conversation, it's Steve A.

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Speaker 1: definitely want to be drinking some Crown Royal. Nothing helps

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Speaker 1: say the chances are slim then it will happen this year,

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Speaker 1: but it will happen eventually. And I think the key

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Speaker 1: of this is two be on the same page with

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Speaker 1: Lamar as much as possible. In Lamar wants to win championships. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: he wants a great contract and deserves it, but he

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Speaker 1: knows what's going on here that they're trying to give

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Speaker 1: him help, to give him the best chance to do

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Speaker 1: what he really wants to do the most, which is

435
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Speaker 1: to win Super Bowls with an s not just one,

436
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Speaker 1: but many, just like the Chiefs that put my homes

437
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Speaker 1: in that position. So the Ravens to me are in

438
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: a great spot in that he loves playing here, he

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Speaker 1: loves his teammates, uh, he liked Yeah, the organization. This

440
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Speaker 1: is where he wants to be. And you've got to

441
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Speaker 1: be in lockstep when you have a player that good.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna compare him to Wins or golf, because

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Speaker 1: I think Lamar is in a different category than those guys.

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Speaker 1: You want to be on the same page with him

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Speaker 1: when it comes to when we're going to do this

446
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Speaker 1: contract and the pros and cons of doing it this

447
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Speaker 1: year is opposed, and next year it is a very

448
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Speaker 1: important issue. You don't want to hamstring the whole organization.

449
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Speaker 1: So he gets his money, but the team is no

450
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Speaker 1: better and then we we don't win championships. So you

451
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Speaker 1: see what's happening with Mahomes in Kansas City, where he

452
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Speaker 1: knew Andy Reid wasn't getting ready to retire, he was

453
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Speaker 1: going to be a long term Mahomes said, hey, this

454
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Speaker 1: is where I want to be. They were able to

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Speaker 1: reach that deal, as opposed to what happened with the

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Speaker 1: Texans and to Shaw Jackson where he got his money

457
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Speaker 1: and now reportedly he wants out of town. So I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying that would happen with Lamar, but based on

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Speaker 1: how Lamar feels about it um when he needs feels

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Speaker 1: like he needs again a new deal, I think the

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Speaker 1: Ravens Longs are on the same page with Lamar. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't really matter as much when it happens. Just figure

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Speaker 1: out a plan going forward. Wherever it's not best for

464
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Speaker 1: him to get it this year, you wait if it

465
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Speaker 1: can be done this year, but you can also improve

466
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Speaker 1: the team, then go ahead and do it, but be

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Speaker 1: on the same page with him as much as you

468
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Speaker 1: can be about the long term plan going forward in

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Speaker 1: regard to giving him a new deal. I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: what I would have send Cliffins to these negotiations and

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Speaker 1: million times before I would say I'll say that right close, Nuance,

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Speaker 1: listen to this man. Let him sit down with Lamar

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Speaker 1: me I just never pay anybody. No. Here's a question

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Speaker 1: from Lindsay Taylor and you guys. You guys can emailus

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Speaker 1: at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. Good

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Speaker 1: question from Lindsay. She uh. She asked, if we see Lamar,

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Speaker 1: can we ask him do you does he see himself

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Speaker 1: being a Raven for life? Do you guys realistically see

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Speaker 1: Lamar playing his whole career in Baltimore. Um So on

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Speaker 1: this front, Lindsay, I do expect Lamar to be in

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Speaker 1: Baltimore long term. I mean he's in it. He just

482
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Speaker 1: finished his third NFL season. If he plays fifteen or

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Speaker 1: all of those in Baltimore, that's really hard to say

484
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Speaker 1: that we're talking, you know, ten, fifteen years down the line. However,

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Speaker 1: I expect him to be in Baltimore. For at least

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Speaker 1: the next five to eight Let's say, um, like I

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Speaker 1: expect him to get a second contract in Baltimore. I do.

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Speaker 1: I would break rule. I would give Lamar Jackson a

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Speaker 1: second contract. I would. I'm not just saying that like him.

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Speaker 1: I really it. I think that he's obviously deserving of it.

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Speaker 1: With that said, I do not I would be surprised

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Speaker 1: if it happened this offseason, and not just for the

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Speaker 1: reason of the Ravens wanting to try to surround him

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Speaker 1: with as much talent as possible. I just think that

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Speaker 1: the players. I think that there could be players around

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Speaker 1: the league that look at the salary cap situation and say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna wait it out this offseason

498
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Speaker 1: because it's a smaller cat this year, and then I

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Speaker 1: go into the year after or maybe the year after

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Speaker 1: that even and when the cap goes back up, now,

501
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm getting a higher salary. If

502
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Speaker 1: you sign it now, you run the risk of getting

503
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Speaker 1: that long term guarantee, but it's a smaller salary because

504
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Speaker 1: you've got to base it off what the cap is

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Speaker 1: right now. Yeah. Really, the players that are in the

506
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Speaker 1: worst spot right now are the understricted free agents right

507
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 1: right now? You want to be kind of under contract,

508
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: you know, and then coming up next season, like guys

509
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: like Judean and Unique, I think that they're gonna see

510
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Speaker 1: the teams are just like sorry, I like you as

511
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Speaker 1: a player, but I can't offer you that much. You know.

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Speaker 1: Um so I agree with you. I think that some

513
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Speaker 1: of these guys Mark, you know, Orlando Lamar, Uh, they

514
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Speaker 1: might wait it out. I think it though it bears

515
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Speaker 1: to say it all depends on what how that contract

516
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Speaker 1: is structured. Like everybody knows this is a situation going

517
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Speaker 1: into it. But Patrick Mahomes, for example, like he signed

518
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Speaker 1: a contract that didn't have a big signing bonus, It

519
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 1: didn't have a whole lot in base salary in the

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Speaker 1: early parts, but it had a ton of guaranteed money.

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Speaker 1: Like if the Ravens can work out a contract and

522
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Speaker 1: this is gonna be hard to do that that makes Lamar.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he only has a three million dollar capit

524
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Speaker 1: right now to come in below that would be tough,

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Speaker 1: I think on an extension. But if they can work

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Speaker 1: out a contract that doesn't still gives the Ravens uh

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Speaker 1: financials uh, you know, some some wiggle room this year,

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Speaker 1: the ability to sign other players this year in the

529
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Speaker 1: short term, and Guarante gives him a lot of guarantee

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Speaker 1: money down the road, then sure, I think that works

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Speaker 1: for both sides because I don't have any reservations about

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Speaker 1: giving Lamar Jackson a bunch of guaranteed money over the

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Speaker 1: next five years. Like, Lamar Jackson is going to be

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Speaker 1: an elite player if he changes nothing. Even if he

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00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: just doesn't even get that much better as a passer,

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00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: he's still going to be an awesome player, not go

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00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: on wood as long as he's healthy, you know, as

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Speaker 1: a runner, like he's going to change the game just

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Speaker 1: by sheer effect of that. So I don't have any

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Speaker 1: fear that. The question long long term with Lamar, and

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Speaker 1: kind of to the listeners question is on the third

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Speaker 1: contract is okay? At what point does Lamar's running ability

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Speaker 1: Is that not as effective because father time you know,

544
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: it's undefeated, for other times undefeated. At some point Lamar

545
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: is not gonna be his explosive running the ball. Win

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Speaker 1: is that? And and at that point how good of

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Speaker 1: a passer is he to compensate for that? That's the

548
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: question for him long long and the and the one

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Speaker 1: other thing I'll say about it is whenever a guy

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Speaker 1: gets a new contract Mahomes at the bar last year,

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Speaker 1: I don't, I wouldn't. I would be surprised if Lamar

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Speaker 1: got more than Mahomes because Mahomes will have wanted at

553
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Speaker 1: least one super Bowl and maybe a second this year.

554
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Speaker 1: But but Mahomes did a ten year, four million dollar contract,

555
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Speaker 1: So I don't think Lamar is gonna get that longer.

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Speaker 1: That's what I wonder is the length is not just

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Speaker 1: the annual salary, because he's gonna be around forty million

558
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: a year. I mean, that's what it's gonna be. And

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Speaker 1: the Costa has talked about wanting to flatten these contracts.

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Speaker 1: The old the Joe Flacco model was not much of

561
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Speaker 1: the first three and then the big hit in the

562
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Speaker 1: second three. The dogstas talked about wanting to flatten the contracts.

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Speaker 1: So if you're gonna give Lamar, is it is it ten?

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Speaker 1: Is it eight? Is it five? What kind of deal

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Speaker 1: does he get? Um? Because I think that that's the

566
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Speaker 1: model that Mahomes is is the new bar and UM,

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Speaker 1: I've been really curious to see the years on on

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Speaker 1: a potential Lamar contract. But like I said, I think

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Speaker 1: that would probably wait, would be my guess. YEP, I agree, alright,

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Speaker 1: so we we already kind of mentioned it. Yunique and

571
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Speaker 1: Matthew Judon. The Ravens have a conundrum, to say the least,

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Speaker 1: at outside linebacker. You have four unrestricted free agents with Unique, Judean,

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Speaker 1: Hias Bowser, and Pernell McPhee. The only guy with experience

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00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: that's back and under contract for next season is Jalen Ferguson,

575
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Speaker 1: who was a healthy scratch at some points down the stretch.

576
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Speaker 1: So what happens outside linebacker? We'd like to make you

577
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Speaker 1: set the set the bar here and then we argue

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Speaker 1: after that. Yeah, well yeah, I mean it's hard for

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Speaker 1: me to envision both of them being back next year

580
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Speaker 1: for financial reasons. Um. And yeah, I mean I really

581
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Speaker 1: really like Matthew Judan every more, every year more as

582
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Speaker 1: a football player, a complete football player who fits really

583
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: well into this defense. I also thought it was interesting

584
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: the last couple of days here and to talk about

585
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: the pass rushians in general. And I wouldn't go as

586
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Speaker 1: far as say how important they are, but you know,

587
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: if you're a stack artist now and quarterbacks are getting

588
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: rid of ball, so quickly. You know, how much money

589
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: should you commit to a stack artist? Uh, which is

590
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: in god ways specially you know he's gonna get money

591
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: for surely unique whether he's back here somewhere else. But

592
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Speaker 1: I just believe that Judean really fits well into this defense,

593
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Speaker 1: and I still think he wants to be here now.

594
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Speaker 1: He's not gonna pass up, you know, more money. I

595
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Speaker 1: don't think a lot more money to stay, but maybe

596
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Speaker 1: there is a way that they could bring him back.

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Speaker 1: And if you can't bring them both back, um, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I really like Judean in this defense and feel that

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Speaker 1: losing both of them will be a hit. So if

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Speaker 1: I'm the Ravens, I'm trying to figure out, is there

601
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Speaker 1: a way we can keep at least one obviously, which

602
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Speaker 1: one do we feel is the most important? And then

603
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Speaker 1: how far we're gonna stretch the budget to make that happen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: to me, I think there's a chance that they're both gone, um,

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Speaker 1: based on what they could command on the open market. Again,

606
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Speaker 1: I keep going back to it, what is that number

607
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Speaker 1: gonna be? Last year, I would have said Judeans in

608
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: the eighteen and twenty million dollar range. Maybe he's not

609
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: this year and I think that there could be a

610
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Speaker 1: case where a lot of players hit the market, they

611
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Speaker 1: expect to get arranged like that, and then all of

612
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: a sudden, a week goes by and then the conversation is, okay, actually,

613
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Speaker 1: maybe I'm getting more twelves to fourteen, just as an example,

614
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Speaker 1: and then if we're I mean, look look at what

615
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: happened with today. Now that was a weird one. That

616
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: was a unique and he got he got the deal

617
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Speaker 1: and he didn't deliver, and so I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there was more to I don't know,

619
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Speaker 1: if he had injuries, I don't know, but but that

620
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: one was was a weird one that I have a

621
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Speaker 1: little bit of trouble putting. Using that as the barometer,

622
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: it might be I think it might be. I think

623
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: it might be. But I do think that type of

624
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: thing could happen to a lot of players this year,

625
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: where you get out there and it's just quiet um

626
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: and you're not getting that same amount that you expect

627
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Speaker 1: to get. So but a guy who I think, and

628
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Speaker 1: I've said this to Ryan, who I think that maybe

629
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Speaker 1: is the one who gets brought back and this is interesting,

630
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: is Taias Bowser. I thought Bowser had a really strong season. Uh,

631
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: played well in pass coverage, does a nice job against

632
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: the run. You know, he he doesn't put up huge

633
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: sack numbers, but I think he's rounded into a complete

634
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: player over the past couple of years. And I want

635
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: and I think that he'll be cheaper than either those

636
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: other two because he doesn't have a sack production. And

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Speaker 1: I just wonder if Bowser comes back and the Ravens

638
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: view him as a good fit in his defense, they

639
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: can get him at a good price and they feel

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Speaker 1: like we'll use him as a as a player to

641
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Speaker 1: be the veteran in our outside linebacker group. That is

642
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: interesting because I think all season, I mean, even you

643
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: were saying Thia is gonna get a big contract somewhere else,

644
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: you know, because he's gonna have a breakout season. But

645
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: I just but I just don't think those big contracts

646
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: elsewhere are going to be more limited this year. Yeah,

647
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I agree, I wonder, uh, and I agree

648
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: with a lot of what you guys are saying. I wonder,

649
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: can you squeeze one more year out of pronomic Fee?

650
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: Probably Fee played pretty darn good football down the stretch,

651
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: and you know, he was kind of ready to hang

652
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: it up last offseason, and then he was convinced to

653
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: come back and give it another run. Can we convince

654
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Speaker 1: him to come back for one more? Because that guy

655
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: stops the run. I'll tell you he's not he's not

656
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: a bad pass rusher. You know, Uh, you watch a

657
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: lot of the raven sacks. You know, Prenel didn't have

658
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: a lot this year, but you watch a lot of those.

659
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Speaker 1: And the second guy that was right there oftentimes with

660
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: prenomic thing, and um, I would be interested in bringing

661
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: him back on a bargain and saying, all right, we're

662
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna make one more run. I wouldn't I

663
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't be opposed to it, But I just would be

664
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Speaker 1: hesitant to think that that's to go all to put

665
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Speaker 1: all your eggs in that basket, because oh, I'm not

666
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: putting You're not putting that many eggs in the pelm

667
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: with basket. I don't think he's gonna be that this

668
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: is like a half dozen't have to four eggs? Um

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Speaker 1: I do. I just I don't know how much you're

670
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: gonna get out of Parnell. And I thought he played

671
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Speaker 1: really I thought he played great down the stretch. Um.

672
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: But the guy's beating father time so far, and I

673
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: just wonder how much more you can assume that's going

674
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: to be the case. I think that is legit. I

675
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: think that is legit. I just don't like the idea.

676
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: If you do lose Nik and Judon, I mean, how

677
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: many guys can you lose? You gotta have bring somebody back, right, um,

678
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: Jalen Ferguson needs to, you know, step up. And maybe

679
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: he's they say he's supposed to be our edge, big

680
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: physical edge setting guy that Purnell you know, has been.

681
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: Maybe they decided that that's what Jalen is. Um So,

682
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:46,959
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think there's a lot to sort

683
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: out there. I'll say this in closing point on this.

684
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Speaker 1: I think if they're bringing back one between the UNIQ

685
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: and Judean, I think it's Judon. M all right, all right?

686
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: Uh so, oh line, I know this is a favorite

687
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: topic of yours also, Garrett, you're always complaining about the

688
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: line and talk about how we need more. Um So,

689
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: what's your plan to improve the offensive line? Garrett? I

690
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: think that the Ravens can certainly draft there, although I

691
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 1: do think that outside linebacker could be also a spot

692
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: that they draft. You know what, I would love if

693
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Speaker 1: one of these guys, if you get a Matt Burke

694
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: type guy, you get a center that gets released because

695
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: of a salary cap casualty, and you bring in a

696
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Speaker 1: veteran who can come in and start and anchor the

697
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Speaker 1: offensive line at center. I think that would be a

698
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: great scenario. That would be the I think that is

699
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: best case for this offense, not drafting somebody. If you

700
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Speaker 1: can get a veteran center. Again, Matt Burke is the example.

701
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: He came in. He's he really solidified the center of

702
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: the offensive line, play great on the run to the

703
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: super Bowl, and then retired. If you can get a

704
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: guy like that, I think that would be an ideal situation.

705
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: And I think this could be where it happens because

706
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: of the salary cap. Right, I'm I'm for bringing in

707
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: um a vet on the interior line if you can,

708
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: you know, right guy, right prices as you would say,

709
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: but yes, really exploring that, Um, they've got to eliminate

710
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: some of the pressure the lamar gets up the middle.

711
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: I believe that, you know, that's that's part of the

712
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: issue with expanding the passing offenses that you know he's

713
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: got to be able to stand in there a little

714
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: more often without getting that pressure. And even watching the

715
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: you know, and watching the NFC Championship game, you see

716
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Speaker 1: two great, all time great quarterbacks still when they were pressured,

717
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: they're affected. I mean, it affects every quarterback, no matter

718
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 1: how good you are, particularly pressure up the middle, and

719
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: you know, along with the snapping issues obviously, but I

720
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: just feel that's an area that they need to show up.

721
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Speaker 1: And even if you draft from where they're drafting, in particular,

722
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,439
Speaker 1: the young inside guys probably gonna take m a couple

723
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: of years at the Alps. So do you get a

724
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Speaker 1: center or you know, somebody to plug in it at

725
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: right guard and you know it is established veteran. I

726
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: think that could possibly help the Ravens a lot as

727
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: far as you're moving your offense. Yeah, I agree with

728
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: all that. At some points I want to throw out,

729
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: are you know, did the Ravens really have an offensive

730
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: line problem except the snaps? You know a lot of

731
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: I don't think that it wasn't just snaps those guys

732
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: against I agree. I agree against Buffalo. The the right

733
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Speaker 1: side of the line was not very good. The center

734
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: and right you know, right guard, right tackle, had a

735
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: bad game, But we were one two weeks earlier than that,

736
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: talk about how the offensive line was this big strength,

737
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: how they had turned into this powerhouse for the offense

738
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: and there were a big reason in the turnarounds. So

739
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: you know, how how big of an issue is it

740
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: and how aggressive were the Ravens gonna be in addressing it.

741
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: I mean at center, they've been going with three straight.

742
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: They've got three undrafted guys there this season. I think

743
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: that's gonna change. Screw us starting for a while. They

744
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 1: had screw us starting for a while McCarry and then

745
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 1: they had Tristan clone Castillo, Like they've shown that they're

746
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: not before that was Ryan Jensen, Like, they haven't invested

747
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: a lot in the center since Matt Burke. So you're right,

748
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: and hey, he helped Hi win the Super Bowl. So

749
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: maybe that is the right formula. I'm just saying it's

750
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: not with the formula the Ravens have subscribed to recently.

751
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: Maybe they changed their mind and say that that their

752
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: formula was wrong. What was something that's certainly possible? John

753
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: Harbaugh and Eric to Costa both pointed to when asked

754
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: about improving Dude, I dude. I remember, specifically after the

755
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: loss to the Titans at home in the playoffs last year,

756
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: John Harball walking through the locker room and telling reporters, Yeah,

757
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 1: we gotta get better on the offensive line, gotta get

758
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: better on the offensive line. Well, they you know that.

759
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: Eric's costa brought up when asked about the passing game.

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00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: How do you improve the passing game? He said, first

761
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: thing to improved protection we're talking about He did, yes, okay,

762
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: and John Harball specifically talked about approving the offensive line.

763
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: So I think that the Ravens are going to look

764
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: for ways to do that and upgrade this offseason. Let's

765
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Speaker 1: with under the radar needs. What's something that we haven't

778
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: talked about that you know, everybody's not talked about that

779
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: the Ravens need to address this offseason. Cliff, go ahead.

780
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: I think you could use some some depth maybe at safety.

781
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought it was a great year for

782
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: DeShawn and Eddie played all sixteen, stepped in you know,

783
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: hopefully he's going to continue to develop, and Chuck Clark

784
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: has been really adorable too. But you know, you look

785
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: at their defense without one of those two guys, if

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Speaker 1: something were to happen, Um, that's the area they may

787
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: even look at. It's not a prime need, but I

788
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: feel that they got away with it this year not

789
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 1: having some safety death. I wouldn't be surprised if they

790
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: addressed that in some way. Do you guys put tight end?

791
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's gonna be I think

792
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: tight end yep. I was just that und I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not a big one that everybody's talking about,

794
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they used the

795
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: highest draft pick. I think they could use the second

796
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: round pick. I don't think it would be a first

797
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: round guy. I think they could use the second round

798
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 1: pick on the tight end. I think another receiving threat.

799
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Speaker 1: You know, he's got to be able to block in

800
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: this offense, but another guy to compliment this. You know,

801
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: everybody's talking about to getting the number one wide receiver.

802
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: And I do think that they will add a veteran uh,

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00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: you know, at some point here. But I think that

804
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: an other way to really help the passing game is

805
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: to add another tight end. They miss Hayden Hurst, they did,

806
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 1: and uh, I think they could draft another guy. Yeah,

807
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: tight end would be mine and I think that, um,

808
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: you have obviously Boyle coming back, but to add another

809
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: receiving threat. Again, going back to what's costs. Sai, when

810
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 1: asked about improving the passing game pointing to the offensive line,

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Speaker 1: also brought up tight end. Now, that's part of what

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00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: coaches and gms do. They just point to everything on

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Speaker 1: the team and say we want to get better at

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00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 1: every position. That's that's kind of coach and GM speak.

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Speaker 1: But I completely agree with the notion that if you

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00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 1: can get a pass catching big body tight end. Uh.

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00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: In this tight end heavy offense, they Ravens will absolutely

818
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: do that. So um yeah. Last last one real quick

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Speaker 1: is they do need to address defensive line depth. I

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00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: think somewhat. You know, you have Klaius, who is I

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00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: think under contract for one more year. Uh, you know,

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00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: Derek Wolfs a free agent. How much longer does Brandon

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00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: Williams have you know, and we talked about his salary

824
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: cap number. So I you have Justin Matt Vique, who

825
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: I think showed a lot as a rookie. You know,

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00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: you drafted Braddock or Washington than the later rounds last year.

827
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: But I do think that you need to continue to

828
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: add young depth to the defensive line for sure. So

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about all this. There's I mean, this

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00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: is just what we called the off season blueprint, but

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00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: it's really kind of that. This is the rough draft.

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Speaker 1: This is the starting sketch of the off season, because

833
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Speaker 1: there's lots to disgust that we're gonna be doing that

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Speaker 1: over the course of free agency, the draft, all of it. Cliff,

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Speaker 1: always good to get your perspective. Thank you for joining

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Speaker 1: us today, and we're gonna do this again soon. So listeners,

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Speaker 1: you can email us of the lounge at Ravens dot

838
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Speaker 1: NFL dot net. We always love to hear from you.

839
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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, and we'll be back with you next

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