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<v Speaker 1>Thursday morning, December fifth, twenty twenty four is the Beating

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<v Speaker 1>the Book Podcast Megapod Week fourteen National Football League. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Gil Alexander, thanks for joining us. As Todd Wishnev increases

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<v Speaker 1>his lead after a three and zero performance last week

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<v Speaker 1>on the megapod one and a half game lead. Dodd

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<v Speaker 1>Wishnev from his mom's cork Attic in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania at

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<v Speaker 1>t wish Nev on Twitter, star of the Showtime docuseriies

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<v Speaker 1>action hasn't had a haircut, and I'm gonna guess two

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<v Speaker 1>months now, what do you think? Two?

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<v Speaker 3>Once over?

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<v Speaker 4>No over?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm over take the over on that? Okay over? Todd

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<v Speaker 1>congratulates on the three and oh, well done, sir, well done,

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<v Speaker 1>well done.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you got to give the people what they want.

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<v Speaker 1>This this guy, he talks when he's when he's not

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to talk. He doesn't talk when he's supposed to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just incredible. Okay. Will Hill at not the Will

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<v Speaker 1>Hill on Twitter host the should Have Bet More podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>also part of Bear Bets at Chris Philka's podcast Empire

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<v Speaker 1>at Fox Sports, and of course a staple on this show.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you doing? Will Boys?

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>God to see everyone?

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<v Speaker 1>I hate Todd, That's the first thing I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get out. My man uh And then our rotating guest,

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<v Speaker 1>an annual guest on this show. He is He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>like to be called a pioneer. He's one of the vanguards,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the first to UH successfully as a business

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<v Speaker 1>predict the outcome of sporting events through predictive modeling. It

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<v Speaker 1>is my dear friend Bob Stole. You know him better

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<v Speaker 1>as doctor Bob at d R bobsports dot com. Dr

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<v Speaker 1>Bob It's on Twitter. I yout a Bob good.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a pleasure to be honest. This is my this

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<v Speaker 3>is my sort of off week in college football. There

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<v Speaker 3>are not sixty games this week, so it's more more manageable,

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<v Speaker 3>uh than any other week of the of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's it's it's good to be having a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of sleep this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was going to say this is a UH

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<v Speaker 1>and now it gets Now you get to have more

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<v Speaker 1>sleep with you know, with the uh with the playoff coming.

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<v Speaker 1>There's still bowl games, right, we don't even talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah we have the bowl games. Aren't sixty games in

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<v Speaker 3>one week that I've got to dig into and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>So it's it's it's spread out over a month, so

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<v Speaker 3>it's more manageable than a regular week of college football,

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<v Speaker 3>which is just very taxing, especially with college basketball overlapping.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm just I'm just thinking about that just from

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<v Speaker 1>a broadcast perspective, like we I haven't even thought about

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<v Speaker 1>bowl games usually, I'm like, oh, I got to do

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<v Speaker 1>these massive bowl game podcasts. Haven't even thought about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if that's because of the twelve team bracket.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's like it's a minimized Yeah, the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>Games were the advertiser while you wait for the for

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<v Speaker 4>the main entrec Now the main entree served earlier that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>I still think it's going to be a huge matchup

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<v Speaker 2>in the blue Bonnet Bowl this year. The blue Bonnet

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<v Speaker 2>is really do they still have the blue Bonnet Bowl?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they do.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, that was the best the blue Bonnet Bowl,

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<v Speaker 1>blue Bonnet Bowl. All right, before we get to best

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<v Speaker 1>bets and all of that, let's get through the uh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get through the court stenographer portion of the of

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<v Speaker 1>the broadcast, Todd Wishnev records.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yes, last week was a quite an outstanding week

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<v Speaker 2>for yours truly with a three and oh as you mentioned.

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<v Speaker 2>But Willie and Gilly by both using Green Bay and Arizona,

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<v Speaker 2>also had a nice week at two and one. That

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<v Speaker 2>brings Gilly to twenty one seventeen and one, nothing to

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<v Speaker 2>sniff at. He also won a teaser. How do you

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<v Speaker 2>like that, Gilly winning a teaser going to three one

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<v Speaker 2>on TV? Yeah? I thought you did one with the

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<v Speaker 2>Bills in Denver? Did Denver end up winning the ball game?

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<v Speaker 2>I both they did?

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<v Speaker 1>I did, I did win it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Jillie one. Will will the thrill Hill was really

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<v Speaker 2>struggling early in the year, but he's made a comeback,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe I said he's going to make a comeback,

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<v Speaker 2>and he has. He's back to eighteen twenty and one

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<v Speaker 2>and respectable five, six and two on his teasers. He

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<v Speaker 2>also won with the Bills and the Falcons. I, as

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<v Speaker 2>we said, went to twenty three and sixteen with my

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful three and oh when the Buccaneers went to overtime

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<v Speaker 2>to get me the over there, so and I lost

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<v Speaker 2>my teaser. I'm six and seven on teasers, and the

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<v Speaker 2>guests spot twenty twenty eighteen and one and also six

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<v Speaker 2>and seven on the teaser, So the guest spot is

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<v Speaker 2>slightly above. I am sure doctor Bob will continue to

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<v Speaker 2>make the guest spot profitable.

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<v Speaker 3>You know I've been doing this. I've been doing this

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<v Speaker 3>Maga pod for what ten years? Nine years. I keep

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<v Speaker 3>good records, Gill. I have never been worse than two

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<v Speaker 3>and one.

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<v Speaker 1>Never worse than two and one on the megapod, never.

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<v Speaker 3>Worse two and one with a couple three and oh

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<v Speaker 3>sprinkled in.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that little self and self pressure.

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<v Speaker 3>Myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I was gonna say, but good for you

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<v Speaker 1>for that's awesome two and one at the worst on

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<v Speaker 1>this show. You also have a good numbers game record too,

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<v Speaker 1>I am your lucky charm, Bob.

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<v Speaker 3>You are indeed meeting you with a I can't say

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<v Speaker 3>it's the best thing that ever happened in my in

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<v Speaker 3>my life. In my case, my wife is listening. But

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<v Speaker 3>we know it is.

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<v Speaker 1>We know it, you and me. No, okay? Which okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Which brings us to our Dumbo of the Week segment.

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<v Speaker 1>And because Thanksgiving is included, is there any doubt? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I know we can.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'd like to also nominate somebody else. And and

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<v Speaker 2>because obviously everyone's going to jump on the bear's or

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<v Speaker 2>the ex coach, but I would just like to say

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<v Speaker 2>that when they throw an interception, the game is not over.

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<v Speaker 2>Elijah Moore and all the linemen on Cleveland and Jameis Winston.

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<v Speaker 2>When you throw an interception and the defender is lying

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<v Speaker 2>on the floor, the game, the play is not over.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not college football. The play is not over. You

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<v Speaker 2>must go over and touch the man in order to

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<v Speaker 2>consider him down. But if you're Elijah Moore, no, you

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<v Speaker 2>head straight for the refreshment to look for AWT talk.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not even interested in trying to make a tackle.

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<v Speaker 2>Neither is any of the linemen running over. And then

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<v Speaker 2>this is what's most puzzling when they go for the

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<v Speaker 2>back door touchdown late and Jamis throws another interception. All

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, they're running the linebacker down for the

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<v Speaker 2>when it's absolutely meaningless. So explain to me how that happens.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to elect all of the offensive players

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<v Speaker 2>on the Browns as the asshole Dumbos of the week

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<v Speaker 2>for not running and trying to touch down a guy

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<v Speaker 2>laying on the floor.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a very good choice. Elijah Moore, who uh it

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<v Speaker 1>was Jamis's second pick six? What ended up being Jamis's

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<v Speaker 1>second pick six, and it was the touchdown that put

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<v Speaker 1>the Broncos in cover position. Where you're right, Elijah Moore

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<v Speaker 1>was the intended receiver. This is the McMillan pick six

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<v Speaker 1>where all he had to do was like take three

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<v Speaker 1>steps back on the field and tag him down because McMillan,

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<v Speaker 1>for like a pregnant pause, was like I'm fine down

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<v Speaker 1>here on the ground, and then he was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't been touched. And as Will pointed out too

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<v Speaker 1>on a numbers game, it's like that replay also did

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<v Speaker 1>not touch him on the way down, barely missed him.

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<v Speaker 1>So he had to know that he had to go

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<v Speaker 1>back and tag him. It's just such mount practice that

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<v Speaker 1>that Jamis thing was the worst. If you had the Browns,

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<v Speaker 1>he ended up killing you with a pick six to

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<v Speaker 1>lose the first half. Bet pick six to lose the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Bet every ind game bet you could have possibly had.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just it was just a tour de force

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<v Speaker 1>of Jamis wins tour to four. But Matt everfws who

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<v Speaker 1>lost his I'm sorry, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say. The the way to bet the

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<v Speaker 3>Browns since Winston took over is the over, which I

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<v Speaker 3>had as a player on that game. They're four and

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<v Speaker 3>one over since Winston took over. Because Deshaun Watson was

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<v Speaker 3>historically bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Historically? How did he get that bad? By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>is it just the shame?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>I think nine hundred days of not playing the position,

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<v Speaker 4>you're just not getting the reps. It's you just if

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<v Speaker 4>you don't use it, you lose it. And it's just

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<v Speaker 4>you lose that instinct. I guess you lose just Hey,

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<v Speaker 4>it's hard to simulate playing quarterback in the NFL against

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<v Speaker 4>like live defenses if you're not doing it. I guess

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<v Speaker 4>this is we don't really have any other comparisons of

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<v Speaker 4>guys sitting out for three years or whatever it was

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<v Speaker 4>set out for like three years.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Aaron Rodgers hasn't been himself either after sitting out

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<v Speaker 3>a year change.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, it was the other RG three all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden when he came back from his injuries,

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<v Speaker 1>some mechanics just went out the window. Was another guy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, after a long, long time out Eberflews. The

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<v Speaker 1>award the Dumbo of the Week should be named after

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Ebberflus. After again, the uh Bears inexplicably did not

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<v Speaker 1>call a timeout in the final sequence against the Allions

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<v Speaker 1>on Thanksgiving. We don't need to go through the details

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<v Speaker 1>other than I would say it's about eighty percent ever Flus,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty percent of Caleb Williams. Because that dude's been playing

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<v Speaker 1>football his life. He couldn't have called time out either.

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<v Speaker 1>He calling a different play.

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<v Speaker 2>And then at the end, at the end, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>realize you cannot throw the football down the field long

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<v Speaker 2>at that point, just spike the goddamn ball and get

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<v Speaker 2>at least a field goal chance. No, he throws it

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<v Speaker 2>long the whole play.

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<v Speaker 3>Gus. Unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>It's terrible, absolutely terrible, by the way, the Raiders spiking

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<v Speaker 1>it with fifteen seconds left as opposed to letting you

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<v Speaker 1>go down three seconds and spiking it because you knew

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<v Speaker 1>they were going to invent a way to lose that

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<v Speaker 1>game against the Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, was that right standard Raiders? That's standard

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<v Speaker 2>Raiders practice, That's not unusual.

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<v Speaker 1>But by the way, was that the right? Was that

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<v Speaker 1>officiated correctly? The end of that Raiders Chiefs game? Isn't

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<v Speaker 1>that like a dead ball in some other games? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I was hosting vsin so I couldn't. I was just watching.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't have the sound, but usually when it's a

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<v Speaker 4>false start, they blow it dead. But I would have

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<v Speaker 4>to go back and watch it with the whistle. But

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<v Speaker 4>I know a lot of people's see too, me too.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, then, Todd, before the Best Bets, anything in gamy

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<v Speaker 1>that you wanted to.

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<v Speaker 2>Share or Yeah, I just wanted to talk about one

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<v Speaker 2>real quick thing, and that is getting off a bet

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<v Speaker 2>that you don't like. So in the Bills game and

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<v Speaker 2>late sometime in the second quarter, I think I took

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<v Speaker 2>the over because I could see the snow was really

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<v Speaker 2>kind of hindering the defense. If you noticed, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a cook got a handoff and ran eight million yards.

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<v Speaker 2>They were just gashing them on the ground, and you

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<v Speaker 2>could you could kind of see the defense wasn't as

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<v Speaker 2>quick because they don't know where the offense is going.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of times people think snow is actually an under.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really wind is an under, and snow can sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>actually be an over. So I took over forty six

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<v Speaker 2>and a half. And then of course Juice Deck fumbles

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<v Speaker 2>on the first drive the third quarter at the two

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<v Speaker 2>yard line, like, all right, I'm in trouble now. But

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<v Speaker 2>we go to the mid to late about ten to nine,

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<v Speaker 2>ten minutes left in the in the fourth quarter, it's

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five to ten, and the Bills had already brought

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<v Speaker 2>in Trubisky. And at that point, I have over forty

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<v Speaker 2>six and a half and we're at forty five, and

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<v Speaker 2>I could get off on forty seven and a half

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<v Speaker 2>and just pay the viig And I said, I've seen this,

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen this show before. I've seen Trubisky in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>At the end of the game, they're just going to

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<v Speaker 2>run the game. You know, this game is over. So

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<v Speaker 2>I jumped off it at like minus one ten, So

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<v Speaker 2>I ended up paying viig of you know, one ten

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<v Speaker 2>and got off what would have been a sure loser

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<v Speaker 2>at that point because you know, the snow had started

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<v Speaker 2>to got worse, and it wasn't like the Niners were

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<v Speaker 2>doing anything at that point either. So you know, sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>you make a good in gameplay to get off something.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, even if you have to just pay the viig,

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<v Speaker 2>it can be worth it, and in that case it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. Here's my question to you, how give

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<v Speaker 1>me the percentage of give me the percentage of times

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<v Speaker 1>you think to do that and you actually do that. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting better at it at right.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to actually just hang in with my bet

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<v Speaker 2>and root for my bet to win, and now I'm

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<v Speaker 2>much better at saying, you know what, I'm cutting bait

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<v Speaker 2>with this. I don't love it anymore. If I can

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<v Speaker 2>get out with a possible slight middle chance or get

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<v Speaker 2>out with a big chance. For instance, the Packer the

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<v Speaker 2>game where the Bears lost by one, I believe to

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<v Speaker 2>the Packers, I had an opportunity to have time to

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<v Speaker 2>get the Bears plus one and a half to go

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<v Speaker 2>with my Packer's money line, which is a really small

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<v Speaker 2>middle one and a half the money line. The only

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<v Speaker 2>way you can middle is if it lands on one. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>of course it did land on one when they missed

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<v Speaker 2>the field goal at the end of that game. But

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<v Speaker 2>that was a perfect example where I didn't like how

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<v Speaker 2>it was going. They were giving me one and a

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<v Speaker 2>half points to get out of this. I'm getting out.

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<v Speaker 2>There's always other opportunities.

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<v Speaker 1>I have you.

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<v Speaker 4>Tampa Bay Carolina. Tampa is down three with thirty seconds left.

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<v Speaker 4>They have all their timeouts. Carolina just scored a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 4>Some books had them plus five hundred. They have plenty

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<v Speaker 4>of time to get in a field goal range. Their

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<v Speaker 4>favorite to the game to start like these teams always

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<v Speaker 4>getting a field goal range. You have all four downs

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<v Speaker 4>to work with, you have all three timeouts. That number

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<v Speaker 4>should not be plus five hundred. So you know, sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>I think people when there's thirty seconds in the game,

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<v Speaker 4>they just kind of ignore the game from a live

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<v Speaker 4>betting standpoint. Those there's some meat.

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<v Speaker 3>On the bone with those, I think, and we were

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<v Speaker 3>we know that we.

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<v Speaker 1>Know that Will did it because he texted it when

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<v Speaker 1>he did it. What percentage of books do you think

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<v Speaker 1>are up with that price at that moment?

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<v Speaker 4>Most of them to draftings have it, Yeah, FANDOL and

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<v Speaker 4>DraftKings have it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, seeing EVA, we're screwed. Really yeah, we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>those books. Yeah, because here I'm like, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not on them to know necessarily what the percentage is.

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<v Speaker 1>But it strikes me that it's not as like bookmaker

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, you know offshore Pillar oftentimes punts on that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. They don't have that available.

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<v Speaker 2>I forget which you got one with plus one forty

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<v Speaker 2>seven going to overtime. I forget what it was, but you.

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<v Speaker 1>College college basketball. It was Michigan State North Carolina, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was just like, it's just one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>where it's like, should either of these two teams be

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<v Speaker 1>plus one forty seven heading in overtime? I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have made the benefit was on the other

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<v Speaker 1>side also, right, So those those are good ones. Are

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<v Speaker 1>those opportunities exist? Bob? My question to you on all

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<v Speaker 1>that is, you have no time to do any of that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing I have never made.

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<v Speaker 3>Any game bet in my life. Wow, when the games

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<v Speaker 3>are being played, that's the only time I have off

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<v Speaker 3>I knew that was the day back in my single

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<v Speaker 3>days in San Francisco. I was on dates hopefully, and

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<v Speaker 3>since I've been married, that's the time I spent with

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<v Speaker 3>my family. So yeah, I just don't bother. Usually I

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<v Speaker 3>don't even watch the games. I just I'm doing. It's

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<v Speaker 3>my only time off is when the game's being.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh but Bob, we were so young, so young. Oh, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day. Okay, best bets, but let's start

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<v Speaker 1>with Thursday night football. Does anybody have a thought or

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<v Speaker 1>one of their best bets on Thursday Night football tonight

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<v Speaker 1>between the Packers and the Lions, which is a good

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<v Speaker 1>game on paper, Lions favored by three and a half

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<v Speaker 1>and as great as the Lions have been eleven and one,

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<v Speaker 1>they have Minnesota game behind them. In the NFC North,

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<v Speaker 1>they have Green Bay two games behind them, and then

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<v Speaker 1>for the number one seed, they only have the Eagles

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<v Speaker 1>one game behind. So it's not like Detroit is out

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<v Speaker 1>of the woods on anything yet. They haven't clinched or

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<v Speaker 1>accomplished anything quite yet. Any play on tonight's game from

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<v Speaker 1>many of us, I like the over.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna use that as one of my picks. Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I almost did the same thing, Willie, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>Both these teams are top four in league yards per play.

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<v Speaker 4>Your indoors weather's not going to be an issue. I

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<v Speaker 4>think you can throw out the game. Last time they

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<v Speaker 4>played a month or so ago, where Love was banged up,

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<v Speaker 4>probably shouldn't have been out there. It was rainy. Lions

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<v Speaker 4>got a big lead and just took the air.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>Detroit is all kind of beat up on defense. Both

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<v Speaker 4>good offenses. To me, Detroit's gonna get there, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>twenty seven points against pretty much anyone. I think this

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<v Speaker 4>is uh, you know, thirty to twenty seven type of game.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the overhear. I am going to go opo.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go under.

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<v Speaker 2>The numbers fifty and a half correct, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Number is fifty one and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, one and a half and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to, if you one and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go under. Lions go Man forty three percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the time. Jordan Love thirty eighth in quarterback rating,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty ninth against Man. Love against the blitz and by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, Detroit has gotten better on the blitz since

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<v Speaker 1>Aiden Hutchinson high not better, but they they blitz at

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<v Speaker 1>a higher rate fifth highest rate the second highest rate

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<v Speaker 1>since Hutchinson has been down. Jordan Love almost goes from

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<v Speaker 1>first to worst EPA per drop back against four fewer

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<v Speaker 1>rushers he's best in the league. Where they bring five,

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<v Speaker 1>he goes to thirty third out of thirty four. That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>And then also the fact that Zarius Smith seventeen pressures

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<v Speaker 1>in Hutchinson's absence, has been really good. You're right about

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Azeloni being out, Jack Campbell, Malcolm Rodriguez have kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stepped up, so I don't like. And then Josh Jacobs,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, gonna try. They're going to establish their run.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to try to with Josh Jacobs. They can try.

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit's Diaz ranked fourth, but Green Bay is going to

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<v Speaker 1>try given those Jordan Love stats, I think. And then

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side, Packer's good against the run two

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<v Speaker 1>twelfth and DVOA. I don't think they can stop the

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit running game, but they can certainly contain it, and

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<v Speaker 1>then that will allow them to blitz more. I just

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<v Speaker 1>think fifty one and a half is a lot, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think the instinct is to go over. But for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason, by the way, when they played each other

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<v Speaker 1>earlier in the year, I think they got to thirty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>If I'm not mistaken, that's not a fair game because

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<v Speaker 2>it was disgusting whether and it was raining and pouring

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<v Speaker 2>and disgusting.

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<v Speaker 1>Well again, if you had just let me finish my thought,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I get it, it was outdoors. But you know

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<v Speaker 1>you could interrupt and make it sound like an idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, I'm going under under fifty one and a half

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<v Speaker 1>very much. I'm gonna start interrupting you right before the comma.

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<v Speaker 1>Also see how that goes. Problem. You know, I love

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<v Speaker 1>the Jews, except right like that kind of thing. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, we got to complain someone was upset that

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about religion last Oh great, that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of show. Okay, So I am on the UNDERWELLA is

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<v Speaker 1>on the over. As one of our best bets, Bob,

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<v Speaker 1>we go to you, sir for your first best bet.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh goodness, I'm gonna go with the Raiders. They have

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<v Speaker 3>not given up. They keep playing hard. I think they

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<v Speaker 3>have a good matchup against Tampa's defense, and O'Connell's been

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<v Speaker 3>better against the blitz compared to a standard rush. Buccaneers

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<v Speaker 3>s blitz the second highest rate in the league. Brock

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<v Speaker 3>Bowers has been great as a rookie tight end. He

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<v Speaker 3>should have a huge game. I mean, he's third among

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<v Speaker 3>tight ends in yards per route run this year. Tampa

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<v Speaker 3>Bay's defense ranks thirty first out of thirty two teams

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<v Speaker 3>and expected points added per target against opposing tight ends.

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<v Speaker 3>They're also with out there starting safety Whitehead and the

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<v Speaker 3>backups out, so Bowers should feast in this game. So

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<v Speaker 3>I do like the Raiders offensive matchup here. Godwin's out

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<v Speaker 3>for Tampa Bay. He's having a good season, and Mayfield

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<v Speaker 3>relatively struggles against man coverage. Compared to z Own. The

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<v Speaker 3>Raiders are fourth highest rate in the league using man coverage,

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, and like I said, the Raiders have

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<v Speaker 3>not given up, and they've lost eight games in a row.

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<v Speaker 3>But teams that have lost seven or more consecutive games

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<v Speaker 3>are fifty five, twenty nine and one against the spread

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<v Speaker 3>when facing opponent off a win. So people tend to

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<v Speaker 3>give up on these teams, but historically they're good bets.

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<v Speaker 3>When you've lost that many games in a row, you

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<v Speaker 3>think they might give up, but they don't. And the

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<v Speaker 3>trend is that those type of teams tend to cover

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<v Speaker 3>on the road. Against teams off a win, and the

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<v Speaker 3>model has the Buccaneers by only five, so I released

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<v Speaker 3>it to clients a plus seven. It's down to six

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<v Speaker 3>and a half, and I still like the Raiders plus

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<v Speaker 3>six and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>And that makes sense intuitively because the market probably over adjusts, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>given that situation and Antonio Pierce factor, where he will

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever he can to cover the spread.

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<v Speaker 2>If he's down nine, he will be kicking field goal

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<v Speaker 2>on fourth down as opposed. You know he's already done

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<v Speaker 2>that twice this year to get inside the number. It's

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<v Speaker 2>my turn, right, Gilly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to that same game. I considered the Raiders

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<v Speaker 2>and they still may be one of my picks, but

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<v Speaker 2>I actually want to take the over here. What do

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<v Speaker 2>you guys have for the over? I have six and

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<v Speaker 2>a half. By the way, we were giving Bob six

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<v Speaker 2>and a half on the on the raid. Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? That's correct?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And then what do you have for the total here?

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<v Speaker 4>Mostly forty forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Half?

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<v Speaker 3>Fish, Yeah, that's mostly forty six.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, forty six, says Bob the.

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<v Speaker 3>Six and a half, but it's juice down.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going over forty six in the Raiders Carolina. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been saying this all year. Typically, there's always like a

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<v Speaker 2>team in the NFL that's just an over machine because

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<v Speaker 2>they can move the ball and they cannot stop anyone

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<v Speaker 2>trying to move the ball. Tampa Bay, to me, is

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<v Speaker 2>that team. They can move it pretty much against everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't like stopping people. Carolina is a perfect example.

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<v Speaker 2>Went up and down the field against them last week.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt very fortunate to win my Tampa Bay plus

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<v Speaker 2>two and a half in game. Bet you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>weren't doing much on defense, and they don't do much

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<v Speaker 2>on defense in most of the games. If you look

0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:06.800
<v Speaker 2>at most of the games, people move the ball on

0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:08.760
<v Speaker 2>Tampa all day long. I was a little worried about

0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:11.320
<v Speaker 2>the Raiders because you know, you got eight and O'Connell.

0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:14.120
<v Speaker 2>But I just think Tampa Bay's so bad on defense,

0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:16.360
<v Speaker 2>They're going to move the ball. And I know Tampa's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get me my points too. So I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>go over forty six in the Raider Tampa game.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, Todd, that team is Cincinnati, but Tampa's

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<v Speaker 3>maybe second or.

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<v Speaker 2>Third, right, it's Nati fair. That's fair to Cincinnati is

0:22:32.000 --> 0:22:34.320
<v Speaker 2>another one that I would also call it a dead over.

0:22:34.359 --> 0:22:37.600
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes there's more than one. But by the way, all

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<v Speaker 2>the time, the all time best team of all is

0:22:42.000 --> 0:22:44.960
<v Speaker 2>very apt. And because Jeff Parls texted me this on

0:22:45.000 --> 0:22:47.920
<v Speaker 2>the Jamis Game twenty nineteen, we sat at the South

0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:50.280
<v Speaker 2>Point every week, and every week they would bet the

0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Tampa Bay Buccaneers under, and I would come on your

0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:55.440
<v Speaker 2>AMG show and say, Tampa Bay Buccaneers over. I think

0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:57.920
<v Speaker 2>they went something like fourteen and two to the over

0:22:58.000 --> 0:23:01.719
<v Speaker 2>because not only would they the ball and not stop anyone,

0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:05.360
<v Speaker 2>Jamis usually would sprinkle in a couple pick sixes every

0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:08.919
<v Speaker 2>couple weeks, so it was just an unbelievable overteam. But

0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:10.800
<v Speaker 2>of course I do agree with you obviously, Bob, that

0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:14.639
<v Speaker 2>Bengals are another one of those crazy teams Jamis.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, the other night, the opt stats had

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<v Speaker 1>this stat his yards passing four ninety seven and then

0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the yardage on their interceptions that he threw one hundred

0:23:25.040 --> 0:23:27.720
<v Speaker 1>and seventy one or something like that. If you add

0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:30.320
<v Speaker 1>those two together, there has never been a game in

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<v Speaker 1>the history of the NFL where are a quarterback provided

0:23:34.520 --> 0:23:39.280
<v Speaker 1>that many yards in either direction, you're supposed to subtract

0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:43.000
<v Speaker 1>that interception yards from it, but they did the addition, Willie.

0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:46.720
<v Speaker 4>If we could never talk about that Jamis Winston Broncos

0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:49.679
<v Speaker 4>game ever again, that would be just great. I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to go, what do we have? Eagles Panthers twelve and

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<v Speaker 4>a half thirteen?

0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:56.399
<v Speaker 2>What's I'm gonna lay it with Philly.

0:23:56.640 --> 0:23:57.360
<v Speaker 3>I think this is.

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<v Speaker 4>What are we going with? I will lay it with

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<v Speaker 4>Philly regardless you guys tell me the number.

0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:02.600
<v Speaker 1>I think.

0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:05.720
<v Speaker 4>I think they're going to perfect. This is the mismatch

0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:09.119
<v Speaker 4>of all mismatches. Carolina last week gave up two hundred

0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:11.680
<v Speaker 4>and thirty six yards rushing to Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay

0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:13.840
<v Speaker 4>running backs average six and a half yards per carry.

0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:16.160
<v Speaker 4>Philly is going to be able to win this game

0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:19.040
<v Speaker 4>without even throwing a forward pass. Philly's ground game is

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<v Speaker 4>just going to mall them. In terms of betting, I

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:23.399
<v Speaker 4>probably just prefer a Philly team total over I think

0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:25.840
<v Speaker 4>if they're interested, they can basically score every time they

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<v Speaker 4>touch the ball. I know Young has been better, but

0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:31.720
<v Speaker 4>now you're going to Philly, hostile environment, outdoors. I still

0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:34.400
<v Speaker 4>think there are some limitations. Fanjo is a good defensive coordinator,

0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:36.840
<v Speaker 4>so to me, this game has you know, thirty eight

0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:39.240
<v Speaker 4>thirteen written all over. I think the Eagles role here.

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<v Speaker 1>I love how everybody's.

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<v Speaker 2>The weather's supposed to be decent in Philadelphia. I looked

0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:47.600
<v Speaker 2>at that. What are we giving him? Ghilly on the

0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 2>number twelve and a half or thirteen twelve? But I

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<v Speaker 2>think consensus is twelve and a half? Okay, twelve and

0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:55.160
<v Speaker 2>a half, he said, look up.

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<v Speaker 1>Screen, Ryce Young, four great games if the if the

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<v Speaker 1>magic carpet ride continues here for Bryce my turn, I

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<v Speaker 1>am taking the Los Angeles Rams plus the points against

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<v Speaker 1>the Buffalo billiards am I getting five or four and

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<v Speaker 1>a half? What am I getting.

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<v Speaker 3>Three and a half?

0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay? Well, I made the bet. I made the bet

0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:30.159
<v Speaker 1>earlier in the week where I uh, I got the

0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Rams plus five and I sprinkled on the money line

0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:34.199
<v Speaker 1>as well three and a half. I'll still take it

0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:37.520
<v Speaker 1>as long as there's a hook. I think the Rams

0:25:37.560 --> 0:25:39.760
<v Speaker 1>match up particularly well with the Bills in terms of

0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:42.640
<v Speaker 1>the Bills defense. The Bill's the whole defense is they

0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:45.360
<v Speaker 1>let you run the football, and they've been this way

0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:47.440
<v Speaker 1>for a few years now, where they let you run

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:50.760
<v Speaker 1>the football, and the whole thing is either get ahead,

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:55.040
<v Speaker 1>which squelches that strategy, or you make a mistake, because

0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:56.840
<v Speaker 1>if you have to matriculate the ball down the field,

0:25:56.840 --> 0:25:58.520
<v Speaker 1>you're more likely to make a mistake if you're doing

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:02.480
<v Speaker 1>long drives, Rams running game with Kien Williams and Blake Orum.

0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I think Sean McVay coaches it up. I think he

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:08.640
<v Speaker 1>knows this about the Bills. I think the Rams, who

0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Will has said very accurately on this show, what are they?

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:14.160
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea what the Rams are from week

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:15.879
<v Speaker 1>to week, but this week, I think I know what

0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 1>they are. You're giving me those points, I will take them.

0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:21.919
<v Speaker 1>And I do think the Bills are due for a

0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:25.960
<v Speaker 1>game where one dude shouldn't be able to beat you, right,

0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:29.919
<v Speaker 1>And I think the Rams sort of spry defense with

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 1>both Jared Verse and who's his FSU teammate Brayden what

0:26:34.160 --> 0:26:37.440
<v Speaker 1>fsc fifth? I think they actually played Josh Allen. Well,

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 1>I'll take the Rams plus the points. I already gave

0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 1>it first, so I guess I don't do my third here, right,

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:45.680
<v Speaker 1>we go back to Will.

0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:48.679
<v Speaker 2>No, let's go no, Will's had two. Let's go to

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:49.679
<v Speaker 2>Bob for his second.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, okayle on that Gil, I'm the one who moved

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 3>the Rams from four to three and a half this morning,

0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 3>my man. I still like the Rams at three and

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:03.120
<v Speaker 3>a half. Rams. Last year, you might remember they had

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of offensive line issues early in the season.

0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 3>Then they had their bye week and they were healthy

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:12.120
<v Speaker 3>on the offensive line down the stretch and averaged twenty

0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:14.440
<v Speaker 3>nine points a game and then made a run towards

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:18.240
<v Speaker 3>the playoffs. Well, this year, same thing, offensive line issues.

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:22.359
<v Speaker 3>Rob Havnstein made his first start of the year last week.

0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:25.760
<v Speaker 3>They are finally healthy on the offensive line for the

0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:29.360
<v Speaker 3>first time all year, and I think with Stafford being

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:32.400
<v Speaker 3>protected better that the Rams offense is going to start

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:35.439
<v Speaker 3>to cook just like they did last year. Like you

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:39.719
<v Speaker 3>mentioned the run defense for the Bills, four point nine

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 3>yards per rush they allow. Rams are fourth in the

0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:45.239
<v Speaker 3>league and rushing success rate on offense, so they're going

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 3>to probably utilize the run game, which also slowed down

0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 3>the pass rush and give Stafford more time to throw.

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:54.200
<v Speaker 3>I think Allen's going to face some pressure. You mentioned

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:57.159
<v Speaker 3>that a little bit. The defensive ends for the Rams

0:27:57.359 --> 0:28:01.479
<v Speaker 3>are very good. They pressure a lot fourth best pressure

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:03.680
<v Speaker 3>rate in the league, so I think Alan's going to

0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:07.960
<v Speaker 3>face some pressure. And you also mentioned they're due for something,

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 3>and I have a stat as I usually do, teams

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:15.040
<v Speaker 3>that score ninety five points or more over a three

0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 3>game span are are generally bad against the spread the

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 3>next week, and the Bills apply to an eighty six, one,

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:25.959
<v Speaker 3>sixty four and seven situations based on that premise. So

0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:28.399
<v Speaker 3>there is a little bit of a letdown here for

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:30.520
<v Speaker 3>the Bills going on the road after scoring ninety five

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 3>plus over the last three weeks. And my model only

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 3>favors the Bills by half a point, So I think

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 3>there's line value. I think the matchups are decent, and

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 3>I like the Rams at plus three and a half

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 3>or more.

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 1>I love it again. I made that bet early in

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 1>the week, and then Bob did it this morning. I'm

0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 1>looking at the phone right now. I love it all right,

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 1>we're aligned on that. We're fine unless a third person

0:28:56.040 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 1>takes the Rams, then we're all screwed. We know the rules, right, will.

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Although we did all hit, we did all hit that

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:08.360
<v Speaker 2>last week with three of US Rizona. Yeah, Arizona plus

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 2>the three and a half. We all had that, and

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 2>you guys both were on Green Bay and both hit.

0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:14.600
<v Speaker 1>And the week deal was out.

0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:16.480
<v Speaker 4>We all had Arizona and that and that one hit,

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:20.200
<v Speaker 4>so we're, uh, we're breaking up these uh these narratives

0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 4>are true of Arizona. I will go Arizona Seattle under flowdowns.

0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 2>So you had two picks, Gill had two picks, Bob

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 2>had two picks. Maybe I should also get to do

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 2>two picks, Willie? Or would you just like that?

0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:37.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's fine, I guess I suppose.

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:42.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Okay, sure, Okay, well, I appreciate that. I'm gonna

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 2>go with what do you guys have for the total

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 2>in the Kansas City Charger game?

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Charges forty three?

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, forty three. Okay, I'm gonna go under forty

0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 2>three in the k C Charger game. I was listening

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 2>to Adam Churnoff, frequent guest on a n G and

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 2>the megapod, and he was talking about how Lad McConkie,

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 2>when they throw to Ladd McConkie, they're like a top

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 2>five throwing team. When they throw to anyone else, they're

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 2>like a bottom five throwing team. And you don't really

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 2>need the stats to tell you that. You just look

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 2>at who the San Diego Chargers have or the LA

0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 2>Chargers have throwing the ball to. They don't have a

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 2>lot of weapons even Ladd mcclucky if he's your last.

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:33.120
<v Speaker 1>Week, sorry, last week, Herbert threw for one hundred and

0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 1>forty seven yards one seventeen to McConkie.

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:41.840
<v Speaker 5>Right, and Lad doesn't exactly and he's a little bit

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 5>supposed that he may not. He's not made sure out.

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay, he's not for sure out. Granted, even if he's

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 2>half out, that's fun. All I'm saying.

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 3>I think limited, Yes, I think he's limited if he plays.

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay. My point is, if Ladd McConkie's your top guy

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 2>who you're throwing the ball to, I think you have

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 2>a problem throwing the football to people. Because Lad McConkie

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 2>doesn't strike me as a number one wide receiver in

0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 2>the National Football League. Maybe he's a very good.

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Why doesn't he strike you as that?

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:21.240
<v Speaker 2>It has nothing to do with what you're trying to in.

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 2>I know what you're trying to do, Gilly. I've seen

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 2>this show. I'm just saying he seems to me be

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 2>as a Charlie Joyner type. He's not more of your

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 2>like West Chandler or John Jefferson type for the Chargers. Okay,

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:38.840
<v Speaker 2>he's more of a possession receiver. I don't see them

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 2>as Okay, whatever, the point is, they don't really have

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:45.240
<v Speaker 2>a lot of guys to throw to. That's the bottom line. Okay,

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 2>they just don't. They're not an explosive offense in my mind.

0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:52.200
<v Speaker 2>So you got Kansas City with a very good defense.

0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 2>I think they're gonna hold him down. I don't see

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 2>why they can't. Even against Atlanta, which is not a

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 2>good defensive football team, Chargers struggle to move the ball.

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 2>The Chargers are not a great offensive. They're winning because

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:07.840
<v Speaker 2>they're running and they're playing defense. They're doing old school

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 2>harball methods for getting to the winner circle. And you

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 2>know what, I love it. I tip my hat to them.

0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 2>Fantastic job. They're just not a juggernaut offensive team, and

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:19.680
<v Speaker 2>I think that they're gonna have a hard time move

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 2>to the ball. Kansas City, it's a division game. Los

0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Angeles is good on defense. It's a division game. Give

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 2>me under forty three. You're gonna grind it. It's gonna

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 2>be a ground and pound. Give me under forty three.

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 2>Regardless of whether lad McConkey is gonna play, regardless of

0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 2>whether he's a good receiver, and regardless of whether he

0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:42.720
<v Speaker 2>may be white or black, thank you, Gilly, Thank to I.

0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 1>I just say that, Wow, wow, he.

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 3>Have just ten yards of target. That's that's pretty good.

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:52.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he is really had.

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 2>I didn't say he wasn't good.

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 3>I just the average couple yards of target in college.

0:32:58.160 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's always been good.

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe geez, I believe it. Bob is Bob

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 1>gets DIBs on three. Right, we all start with our

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 1>third here, start with Bob.

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 3>I love me. I'm gonna go with the Jaguars because

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 3>who wants the Jaguars?

0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh? I did? Wow.

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:26.080
<v Speaker 3>Jones has not been good and he's probably I docked

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:30.120
<v Speaker 3>them three and a half points for Jones versus Trevor Lawrence.

0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 3>We know Jones can play better, but I'm assuming that

0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 3>he'll play to the level he's played since the start

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:38.479
<v Speaker 3>of last year, which is which is not good. But

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 3>we know he can play better. He actually played a

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 3>little bit better coming off the bench last week. I

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 3>started to a little bit of a rapport with Brian Thomas,

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 3>and Thomas has been good despite the bad quarterbacking for US.

0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 2>Here.

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<v Speaker 3>He's fourteenth among wide receivers in yards per route run.

0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:55.479
<v Speaker 3>Got a good matchup in this game against a rookie

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 3>cornerback Jarvis Brownlee's seventh worst than the league and yards

0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 3>per cover snap loud, So I think Brian Thomas is

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 3>going to have a nice game. Titans are missing not

0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:09.319
<v Speaker 3>only three starting corners, like both outside corners and their

0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:11.600
<v Speaker 3>nickel back, but they're starting safety digs Is out too,

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 3>so the secondary is depleted. So I think Jones, who

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:18.319
<v Speaker 3>has proven he can be decent. I'm not expecting it,

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 3>but he can be better than I think he's going

0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:22.400
<v Speaker 3>to be. And I think he's got a good matchup

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:25.040
<v Speaker 3>with Brian Thomas, a go to receiver that should be

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:27.239
<v Speaker 3>open most of the game. On the other side of

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 3>the ball, you've got josh Heinz Allen with forty eight

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 3>pressures this season, top ten in the league. He'll be

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 3>up against a left tackle JC Latham who's seventh worst

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 3>in pass blocking efficiency, so I think heines Allen's going

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:43.239
<v Speaker 3>to be in the backfield most of the game and

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:46.400
<v Speaker 3>Will Levis's face, and Levis is prone to making mistakes,

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:52.799
<v Speaker 3>probably an understatement. I's thirty fifth out of thirty fourth

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 3>out of thirty five qualifying quarterbacks and interception rate. He

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:58.440
<v Speaker 3>should throw at least one pick you'd think so. I

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 3>like the matchups, think Tennessee's defense is in trouble, just

0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:06.440
<v Speaker 3>so many injuries in the secondary, and I favor the

0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:09.320
<v Speaker 3>Titans by just one point. So I'm taking three and

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 3>a half With Mitch Jacksonville.

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:15.759
<v Speaker 1>We we call Will Levis ill advised Billy Levi's that's

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:18.520
<v Speaker 1>his nickname, and we talked about it on the radio.

0:35:19.400 --> 0:35:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, what is.

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 2>The number there? What is the consensus number there? In

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 2>the Jaguar game.

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:28.279
<v Speaker 1>Is three and a half. I believe I'm seeing as

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:29.719
<v Speaker 1>many threes as three and a halfs.

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 3>You kill me, that's crazy. Well it's three. It's three

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 3>Jews at Draft Kings, but everywhere else is three and

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:38.479
<v Speaker 3>a half, three and a half, CIRCA three and a half,

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:40.520
<v Speaker 3>MGM three and a half, west Gate three and a half,

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:43.040
<v Speaker 3>three and a half, US three.

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:43.279
<v Speaker 2>And a half.

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 1>One outraged by my comment half at the show and

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:53.920
<v Speaker 1>a half? By the way, was that bet on the

0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 1>jaguires of the Jaguars, Bob, we have to be jack Wars,

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:03.480
<v Speaker 1>we said on the Morning Wires.

0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:04.920
<v Speaker 3>That's why I picked that up.

0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 1>He does call him man oh man.

0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Jaguiars jag wires.

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Uh, we said on the radio side this morning. How

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:15.239
<v Speaker 1>much would would you have to be paid if you

0:36:15.480 --> 0:36:18.640
<v Speaker 1>did not have a wager on this game Titans Jaguars.

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 1>How much would you require to watch that game from

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:25.440
<v Speaker 1>beginning to end without a bet on it and no

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:30.080
<v Speaker 1>phone for distraction? You must watch the football game? Kelly said,

0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 1>three hundred dollars.

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:33.799
<v Speaker 3>I was like, no, can I get a nap in?

0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Can you get what?

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:36.239
<v Speaker 3>Wait?

0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Can I get a nap?

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Have to be away. You have to be conscious, conscious

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 1>watching the whole thing. Then someone chimed in was like,

0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 1>what about attending the game? Same rules? Oh brutal? Oh

0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:52.239
<v Speaker 1>uh toddy number three sir.

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:56.480
<v Speaker 2>By the way, it's funny because as soon as Mac

0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:59.160
<v Speaker 2>Jones went in the game, I bet team total under

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 2>thirteen and a half for the Jaguars, and of course

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:05.120
<v Speaker 2>I went to the second half with ten and a

0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:06.959
<v Speaker 2>half to give. They only had three at the half,

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:09.320
<v Speaker 2>and I thought, oh, I'm fine. And then of course

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:11.960
<v Speaker 2>he gets one back door touchdown to get the thirteen

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:13.719
<v Speaker 2>and I think, okay, I'm gonna still be all right.

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:15.840
<v Speaker 2>That was on a fourth and eight when the cornerback

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:18.359
<v Speaker 2>fell down. Then they get another back door touched. I'm

0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 2>like Mac Jones all of a sudden you woke up

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 2>when I bet the under, and it's like so aggravating.

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 2>But anyways, you know he was I have to admit

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:27.919
<v Speaker 2>he was better in the last quarter and a half

0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:32.719
<v Speaker 2>of that game for my third pick. I mean, it

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 2>is just it is tough pickings here this week. I

0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 2>will say that. I mean, it just feels it just

0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 2>feels like pulling teeth on some of these plays. To

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 2>be honest, Uh, I guess I'm gonna go Donnie in's

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 2>your ton. I'm going Donny in your ton? That's right.

0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:55.920
<v Speaker 2>I think maybe em storers might put a little whooping

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 2>ass like they did last week on Old Gilly's pick.

0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 2>And look, all I can say is Akrosure Parking is

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 2>gonna be expensive. You know that's got a favorite of storers.

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:10.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure why, but you gotta think it. Give

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:16.040
<v Speaker 2>me the stillers. I feel like Thursday Night Football in

0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:20.080
<v Speaker 2>the snow, they stole one from us, and now the

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 2>seven just seems like a gigantic number, a gigantic number.

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 2>But you know what, maybe we're really good. Maybe the

0:38:27.840 --> 0:38:31.359
<v Speaker 2>stores are really good, and we've seen the Jamis show.

0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Now maybe we get in on the pick six action.

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna go dinner, and I'm gonna pick the

0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Pittsburgh Steelers in that. I'm gonna go down to the Rivers,

0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:44.759
<v Speaker 2>gonna get the free park eighty. I'm not gonna pay

0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 2>a hundred, I'm gonna pay zero, and I'm gonna get

0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 2>my good seats to watching the sports book Downer stores

0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 2>minus What is it seven or six and a half?

0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:54.719
<v Speaker 2>You guys gonna be chinsey with me?

0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:57.600
<v Speaker 3>I think it's six and a half. Juiced up.

0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 2>Bo upset it. I'll take the six and a half

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:06.640
<v Speaker 2>for a Stiller win twenty eight twenty one. Stiller's minus

0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:07.560
<v Speaker 2>six and a half.

0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Are we sure that's more six and a half than

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 1>seven and.

0:39:10.680 --> 0:39:14.000
<v Speaker 3>fIF I'm looking at the Don Best screen. The consensus

0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:15.520
<v Speaker 3>is six and a half. Looks like more six and

0:39:15.520 --> 0:39:15.839
<v Speaker 3>a half?

0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:19.399
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Bob wins again? I mean it is?

0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 3>Where's where's the seven circa?

0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:23.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm not done.

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:26.799
<v Speaker 3>People can't get a pinnacle. I only see Circa and

0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:28.920
<v Speaker 3>Pinnacle at seven and.

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Those are those are exactly I am looking.

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:36.879
<v Speaker 2>He's upset because the Bengals. He took the Bengals down

0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:38.759
<v Speaker 2>their minus two and a half. He thought he was

0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:41.160
<v Speaker 2>gonna get over on a Mike Toman and that it

0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:41.920
<v Speaker 2>didn't happen.

0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Bookmaker and Pinnacle or the two that had seventh exact.

0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, Bookmaker, Yeah, that's it.

0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Rester six and a half, Juice, Yeah, Rester six and

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:58.640
<v Speaker 1>a half, right, Willie your last one.

0:39:58.520 --> 0:39:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Mane all right?

0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:02.879
<v Speaker 4>Seattle Arizona under forty four and a half. We talked

0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:06.320
<v Speaker 4>about Arizona. The front part of their schedule was heavy

0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 4>with good offenses, so that hurt their stats defensively. I

0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:12.319
<v Speaker 4>think both these defenses are a little bit underrated. You have

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:14.799
<v Speaker 4>two defensive head coaches, and these teams played three weeks

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:16.480
<v Speaker 4>ago and it was sixteen to six, and that was

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:20.080
<v Speaker 4>with a defensive touchdown. Seattle played the Jets last week

0:40:20.120 --> 0:40:22.080
<v Speaker 4>and that game went over, but that was completely misleading.

0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:24.440
<v Speaker 4>You had a lot of fluky points in terms of

0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:27.480
<v Speaker 4>defense and special team. So to me, it's just going

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:28.959
<v Speaker 4>to be hard to get to forty four and a half.

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:31.239
<v Speaker 4>Here I look like a twenty to seventeen type of game.

0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 4>So Arizona Seattle under. As you guys mentioned, there's not

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:35.920
<v Speaker 4>a lot man a lot of ugly games. When we

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:37.239
<v Speaker 4>get to the question what game do you want? No

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:39.320
<v Speaker 4>part of I got like five or six good answers.

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:41.920
<v Speaker 4>It's just it's hard to find good side this week.

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:44.360
<v Speaker 4>But I will go Arizona Seattle under forty four and

0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:45.000
<v Speaker 4>a half.

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 1>My last one. I've only made two bets this week.

0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 2>Before you do your last one, Gilly, can we just

0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 2>talk about how the Arizona Cardinals defense went from a

0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 2>disastrous display in the first couple of weeks to now

0:40:58.040 --> 0:41:00.919
<v Speaker 2>it's like a good defense and maybe what doctor Bob

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:02.799
<v Speaker 2>and you guys would think about that whole thing.

0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:07.239
<v Speaker 4>Bob, you go from up three to up six, you're

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:09.160
<v Speaker 4>asking for trouble. And that's what Arizona did last week

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:10.040
<v Speaker 4>against Minnesota.

0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, did you not like that in the moment when

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:15.040
<v Speaker 1>they went when they kicked the field goal to go

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:15.439
<v Speaker 1>up six.

0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:17.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm a Vikings fan. I was praying for them to

0:41:17.640 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 4>kick the.

0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Field goal and they did. That's the truth serum right there. Yeah,

0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:25.759
<v Speaker 1>the Aaron Shotts to answer your question from Aaron shots standpoint,

0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:29.080
<v Speaker 1>our buddy Aaron from last week? Was it last week

0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:33.719
<v Speaker 1>or two weeks ago? Last week? Yeah? He has the

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Cardinals the seventh ranked team in all of football through

0:41:37.640 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 1>DVOA seventh. Uh he thinks and and by the way,

0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:44.680
<v Speaker 1>I have bet on a team I have bet. I

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:46.799
<v Speaker 1>have not bet on a team more frequently than I

0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:49.840
<v Speaker 1>have the Cardinals and to great success. And that is

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:52.120
<v Speaker 1>my third pick. I'm on the Cardinals minus two and

0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 1>a half. That was the other bet I made this week.

0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 1>The books respected my bet so much they kept at

0:41:56.680 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 1>it two and a half. It's still there two and

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:01.680
<v Speaker 1>a half across the board. I like the Cardinals here.

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:04.799
<v Speaker 1>By the way, this is a kind of do or

0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 1>die game for the Cardinal. If they lose this, they

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:12.479
<v Speaker 1>are two games behind the Seahawks lust the tie breaker

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 1>because they will have they will have been swept by

0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:18.560
<v Speaker 1>the Seahawks. So it is the proverbial must win situation.

0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Doctor Bob, by the way, with the famous must win line,

0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:23.160
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't like what the way I translated, but he

0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:26.439
<v Speaker 1>his famous must win line should be stated. If they're

0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 1>in a must win situation, they yeah, it must not.

0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:30.880
<v Speaker 3>If you're in a must if you're if you're in

0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 3>a must win situation, you're not good enough to win

0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:37.160
<v Speaker 3>when you're when you want to win, so right, you know,

0:42:37.320 --> 0:42:39.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't know people, Oh they're in a must win. Well,

0:42:39.560 --> 0:42:41.480
<v Speaker 3>if they were good enough to win whenever they wanted

0:42:41.480 --> 0:42:43.760
<v Speaker 3>to win, they wouldn't be in a must win situation.

0:42:44.480 --> 0:42:46.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you're in a must win situation, you must

0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:48.040
<v Speaker 1>not be that good, as I think the best way

0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:51.920
<v Speaker 1>to phrase that. I always give Bob credit for that line.

0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:53.719
<v Speaker 1>It's true. But I just think the Cardinals are better

0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:54.759
<v Speaker 1>football team. I really do.

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 3>I think they're they're improved.

0:42:57.000 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I will say I will say this that the NFC

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:02.680
<v Speaker 1>West as a group of teams. Who knows how this

0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 1>wraps up, but I got the Cardinals. I couldn't. I

0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:08.640
<v Speaker 1>guessed or I believe on guessing lines or three and

0:43:08.680 --> 0:43:10.799
<v Speaker 1>a half. It's two and a half. That's enough in

0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:12.799
<v Speaker 1>a slim pickings week, as you guys were talking about,

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 1>that's enough for me to make a bet. I'm on

0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:17.319
<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals again. They have not done me wrong yet.

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:18.680
<v Speaker 1>That's my number three.

0:43:18.800 --> 0:43:23.200
<v Speaker 2>Wait, quick bonus pick first half Detroit Mercy over sixty

0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 2>seven and a half against Purdue fort Wayne minus one twenty.

0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:30.719
<v Speaker 2>For the people on my WhatsApp group, I forgot my

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 2>other phone with me, so I forgot to put it

0:43:32.560 --> 0:43:34.279
<v Speaker 2>out on there. So if you could still get it

0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 2>in by the time you listen to this, you're probably Okay,

0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:37.359
<v Speaker 2>but the commercial's over.

0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:41.279
<v Speaker 1>That is that a game that's happening right now?

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it is currently sixteen to fourteen perdue fort Wayne

0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:47.160
<v Speaker 2>versus Detroit Mercy.

0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, well they're not going to be able

0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:54.480
<v Speaker 1>to get it. So what's your number? First half? Todd?

0:43:54.480 --> 0:43:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm making it right.

0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Now over sixty seven and a half.

0:43:58.320 --> 0:44:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh, se I'm already at seventy. I don't reget that number.

0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm I'm watching it on ESPN plus it hasn't

0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:06.720
<v Speaker 2>come back from commercial.

0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Yet seventy uh. Okay, which brings us to our teaser

0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:14.400
<v Speaker 1>of the week, where I am Breezers.

0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Seers has it at sixty seven and a half Caesars.

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I am breathing down the neck of Todd wishnevn will

0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:22.759
<v Speaker 1>Hill when it comes to teasers. Now, after my one

0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:28.840
<v Speaker 1>to oh teaser performance last week, what a teaser it was, Bob,

0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:32.560
<v Speaker 1>your favorite two leg six point teaser of the week

0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:36.000
<v Speaker 1>would be that's my reaction, Bob every time?

0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:40.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's uh god, you know I'm gonna I'm gonna

0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:43.640
<v Speaker 3>go with the Jets getting it through seven and ten

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:45.800
<v Speaker 3>and even eleven. I guess I can get plus eleven

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:48.439
<v Speaker 3>and a half with the Jets. Are they they five

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:49.920
<v Speaker 3>and a half? Yeah, mostly five and a half, So

0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:52.839
<v Speaker 3>I can get that's eleven and a half, get through

0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:56.200
<v Speaker 3>a couple of key numbers if they get down big.

0:44:56.239 --> 0:44:58.439
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you can see some backdoor going on there,

0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:00.480
<v Speaker 3>and the Jets are just good enough to lose close.

0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:05.000
<v Speaker 3>The other one is Philly minus six and a half.

0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:06.799
<v Speaker 3>I get that now too, right as they consensus twelve

0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:09.040
<v Speaker 3>and a half. We said that earlier, right, so I

0:45:09.040 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 3>can get Philly down to six and a half and

0:45:10.680 --> 0:45:12.520
<v Speaker 3>it would be Jets plus eleven and a half of

0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:14.120
<v Speaker 3>Philly minus six and a half.

0:45:14.920 --> 0:45:17.360
<v Speaker 1>I love it. Bob comes in, He's like Stanford Wong

0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Schmanford Schmong.

0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:21.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's not a lot of that this week, and

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:23.440
<v Speaker 3>the ones that are in the long teasers I'm not

0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:27.480
<v Speaker 3>really not really vibing with. And aren't that many. I mean, yeah,

0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:30.640
<v Speaker 3>very true, whether one or two maybe, And there just

0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:38.360
<v Speaker 3>aren't anything that I particularly like, So Dotty.

0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:38.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go with the stores. I already said why

0:45:38.680 --> 0:45:40.319
<v Speaker 2>I love the stores. I didn't give you a lot

0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:42.880
<v Speaker 2>of meat on the bounds, but I just have a

0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:46.319
<v Speaker 2>feeling this week that you know, we saw enough you know,

0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:49.080
<v Speaker 2>they figured it out, and they're gonna figure out that

0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:51.759
<v Speaker 2>guy Jamis. So Steelers are gonna win the game. And

0:45:51.800 --> 0:45:53.400
<v Speaker 2>I'll also take the six and a half with the

0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:56.560
<v Speaker 2>Eagles for all the reasons you guys have already clearly

0:45:56.880 --> 0:46:00.279
<v Speaker 2>made it clear. Safe one. Barkley may run for one

0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:04.399
<v Speaker 2>thousand yards this week and break the NFL record. By

0:46:04.440 --> 0:46:07.839
<v Speaker 2>the way, is there not a possibility that they give

0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:09.560
<v Speaker 2>the ball to saque to try to get him the

0:46:09.600 --> 0:46:13.520
<v Speaker 2>MVP a lot this week and maybe the alternate lines

0:46:13.640 --> 0:46:17.280
<v Speaker 2>on an already inflated rushing number might be worth a look.

0:46:17.360 --> 0:46:20.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't even know what the normal line is,

0:46:20.320 --> 0:46:22.560
<v Speaker 2>but could you imagine what it is for like plus

0:46:22.560 --> 0:46:24.799
<v Speaker 2>one seventy five or something one hundred and seventy five

0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:27.360
<v Speaker 2>yards or something. It's probably like big, big time plus.

0:46:27.440 --> 0:46:28.920
<v Speaker 2>They may give it to him, They may feed it

0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:30.080
<v Speaker 2>to them just to get him the MVP.

0:46:31.680 --> 0:46:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Still five weeks, I don't know. It's it's yeah, there's

0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:37.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of season left to play. But he is

0:46:37.200 --> 0:46:39.680
<v Speaker 1>in line for the NFL record all time record for

0:46:39.760 --> 0:46:43.520
<v Speaker 1>rushing yards, so maybe that's a consideration also, But it's early.

0:46:44.239 --> 0:46:47.440
<v Speaker 1>With the lost game, by the way, Yeah, with the

0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:48.800
<v Speaker 1>extra game, that's correct.

0:46:49.000 --> 0:46:52.000
<v Speaker 3>The whole conversation about the extra game, Well should it count? Well?

0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:54.480
<v Speaker 3>Oj did it in fourteen, and Dickerson did it in

0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:57.680
<v Speaker 3>sixteen and Jim Brown it. How about just rushing yards

0:46:57.719 --> 0:46:59.880
<v Speaker 3>per game? Why? Why is it that the record?

0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because Bobby in America and in America, people can't

0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:11.680
<v Speaker 2>do math. They can't do math here in America.

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:15.320
<v Speaker 1>If you know that, Bob, you're asking them to divide.

0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Bob division on funny think, Yeah, a division. Multiplication's evil friend. Okay, uh, Todd,

0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:30.520
<v Speaker 1>You're no, you're Todd. You just gave yours, right, I

0:47:30.520 --> 0:47:31.040
<v Speaker 1>think it's me.

0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I give my Steelers egos.

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:35.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm just gonna go Buck. Steeler's not a lot

0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:37.280
<v Speaker 4>of great options. But I think both those teams probably

0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:38.200
<v Speaker 4>win their games.

0:47:38.920 --> 0:47:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm going rams because I have them ats, and I'll

0:47:43.600 --> 0:47:46.960
<v Speaker 1>take it through the seven rams plus nine and a

0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:49.440
<v Speaker 1>half and I will go. And I know this is

0:47:49.440 --> 0:47:51.040
<v Speaker 1>going to be the death of me. And I know

0:47:51.120 --> 0:47:54.040
<v Speaker 1>this is why this is what Bob's instinct is probably

0:47:54.080 --> 0:47:56.360
<v Speaker 1>correct here, Like, I don't want this. This isn't a longer,

0:47:56.360 --> 0:47:58.040
<v Speaker 1>by the way, it's even worse than a longer because

0:47:58.040 --> 0:47:59.680
<v Speaker 1>it's an away team. But I'm going to take the

0:47:59.719 --> 0:48:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Sinsey Bengals to basically just have to beat the Dallas Cowboys.

0:48:03.320 --> 0:48:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Come on, Bengals.

0:48:06.040 --> 0:48:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Gonna win Cincinnati plus a half plus a half.

0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:16.520
<v Speaker 3>I considered that, Yeah, I remember defense.

0:48:17.640 --> 0:48:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, then right as I'm saying it, I'm remembering the

0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:23.319
<v Speaker 1>Bengals defense. But you gotta be able to beat them.

0:48:24.280 --> 0:48:27.520
<v Speaker 1>God s you can outscore them, right, even if you

0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:29.759
<v Speaker 1>give up a whole one. And Cooper Rush is gonna

0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:34.160
<v Speaker 1>is gonna keep bace with Joe Burrow, all right. Which

0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:35.840
<v Speaker 1>brings us to our final two questions of each and

0:48:35.840 --> 0:48:38.600
<v Speaker 1>every megapod. Final two questions, first of which is which

0:48:38.600 --> 0:48:40.640
<v Speaker 1>of the big favorites, and there's a lot of them,

0:48:41.080 --> 0:48:43.040
<v Speaker 1>which are the big favorites? In your opinion, is the

0:48:43.080 --> 0:48:46.239
<v Speaker 1>most likely to lose? Outright, Bob, here are your candidates.

0:48:46.840 --> 0:48:49.399
<v Speaker 1>The Tampa Bay Buccaneers six and a half or seven

0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:51.520
<v Speaker 1>and six and a half point favorites hosting the Raiders.

0:48:51.520 --> 0:48:54.759
<v Speaker 1>I think we have Bob's answer already. Perhaps Steelers stealers,

0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:58.600
<v Speaker 1>as Todd would say, seven point favorites against the Cleveland Brownies.

0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:02.279
<v Speaker 1>The Eagles thirteen point frit's at home against the Carolina Panthers.

0:49:03.239 --> 0:49:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Let's leave it to those three. Those are your three choices.

0:49:06.040 --> 0:49:09.240
<v Speaker 1>What about Miami and the Miami.

0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:13.600
<v Speaker 3>They're only five and a half, they're not six. I

0:49:13.600 --> 0:49:17.680
<v Speaker 3>think Tampa and Pittsburgh both could end up losing, just

0:49:18.960 --> 0:49:23.799
<v Speaker 3>I mean Pittsburgh because Cleveland is so variable. I mean,

0:49:23.880 --> 0:49:27.080
<v Speaker 3>they could be great or they could be a disaster.

0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:29.840
<v Speaker 3>So there's a lot of variance in that game. Tampa

0:49:29.920 --> 0:49:31.560
<v Speaker 3>because I already like the Ragers, so I'm going to

0:49:31.600 --> 0:49:34.760
<v Speaker 3>go with the Buccaneers as most likely to lose.

0:49:36.600 --> 0:49:41.120
<v Speaker 2>STI I agree, I I just stin't like the Buccaneers

0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:43.160
<v Speaker 2>defense at all, and I think they could easily lose

0:49:43.200 --> 0:49:46.920
<v Speaker 2>a game. You know, I don't. I don't trust their defense.

0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:48.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they should have lost that game to Carolina.

0:49:48.920 --> 0:49:49.560
<v Speaker 3>Let's be honest.

0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:55.880
<v Speaker 4>Well, I'll say Pittsburgh just because Donald division game. Cleveland

0:49:55.960 --> 0:49:57.239
<v Speaker 4>just beat him, which I guess you could say it's

0:49:57.239 --> 0:49:59.799
<v Speaker 4>a revenge angle. But Winston the Old, the Old double

0:49:59.800 --> 0:50:01.400
<v Speaker 4>ahe he can win the game for either team. So

0:50:01.560 --> 0:50:04.640
<v Speaker 4>I'll say Cleveland, but don't feel great about it. Always

0:50:04.680 --> 0:50:05.480
<v Speaker 4>do this backwards.

0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say Pittsburgh. I'm gonna say Pittsburgh. My instinct

0:50:09.000 --> 0:50:11.040
<v Speaker 1>to say Pittsburgh crushes him because they're, you know, after

0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the the old revenge spot theory. But I think Jamis

0:50:15.160 --> 0:50:19.920
<v Speaker 1>right now is like, I'll throw the ball on anybody.

0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:22.480
<v Speaker 4>Eight strikeouts, eight walks, both new league records from off

0:50:22.480 --> 0:50:23.160
<v Speaker 4>from Bull Durham.

0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:26.959
<v Speaker 1>That's James. Jamis said after the game. The Good Lord

0:50:26.960 --> 0:50:29.120
<v Speaker 1>could just prevent him from throwing the pick sixes because

0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:33.960
<v Speaker 1>he knows he's better. See if that's the case, and

0:50:34.080 --> 0:50:37.879
<v Speaker 1>the final could if he could deliver him from not.

0:50:38.160 --> 0:50:40.120
<v Speaker 3>Deliver, he says.

0:50:40.320 --> 0:50:40.719
<v Speaker 1>I love it.

0:50:40.760 --> 0:50:43.000
<v Speaker 3>He says, you know, because that's not me. Like, no,

0:50:43.760 --> 0:50:48.840
<v Speaker 3>that is you. He goes, No, that's just not me.

0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:53.239
<v Speaker 3>Listen to that guy. This man is not self aware.

0:50:54.400 --> 0:50:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Not me. That is one of the greatest It's not

0:50:58.280 --> 0:51:01.560
<v Speaker 1>me's ever. No, that is so you. You have proven

0:51:01.600 --> 0:51:02.560
<v Speaker 1>its time and time again.

0:51:02.719 --> 0:51:05.680
<v Speaker 3>I love him. He's great.

0:51:06.760 --> 0:51:12.800
<v Speaker 1>He's very likeable because you know why, because yeah, super authentic,

0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:13.359
<v Speaker 1>that is him.

0:51:13.760 --> 0:51:16.960
<v Speaker 4>I think he's overdone a little bit now where everybody

0:51:17.040 --> 0:51:19.160
<v Speaker 4>rushes to clip everything he says is like the funniest

0:51:19.200 --> 0:51:21.000
<v Speaker 4>thing ever. I think it's a little overdone and maybe

0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:22.760
<v Speaker 4>he's playing into it, but but he does seem genuine

0:51:22.760 --> 0:51:23.280
<v Speaker 4>and authentic.

0:51:24.160 --> 0:51:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would agree with What was the thing that

0:51:28.160 --> 0:51:30.280
<v Speaker 1>I thought was like way over to other Thanksgiving stuff

0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:32.040
<v Speaker 1>with the turkey legs? Please stop with that with a

0:51:32.120 --> 0:51:35.279
<v Speaker 1>turn duckan? Is that is America really that entertained by

0:51:35.320 --> 0:51:40.360
<v Speaker 1>every football game on Thanksgiving? Guys eating turn duckan afterwards?

0:51:40.400 --> 0:51:43.520
<v Speaker 1>The hilarity of it, like Kevin Burkhard just dying laughing.

0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:47.560
<v Speaker 1>That's not all right. Final one. We live in a

0:51:47.600 --> 0:51:51.000
<v Speaker 1>bizarro world. You are forced to bet a side side

0:51:51.000 --> 0:51:53.440
<v Speaker 1>of your choice in every one of these games, but

0:51:53.520 --> 0:51:56.000
<v Speaker 1>you are allowed one free pass, Bob, one game that

0:51:56.080 --> 0:51:58.040
<v Speaker 1>you want no part of. You wouldn't even bet it

0:51:58.080 --> 0:51:59.960
<v Speaker 1>with Todd's money. What game is?

0:52:01.480 --> 0:52:06.480
<v Speaker 3>I think it's Philly Carolina. Like Carolina's playing better. Philly

0:52:06.480 --> 0:52:09.080
<v Speaker 3>could get a big lead, Carolina could backdoor, then Philly

0:52:09.080 --> 0:52:11.000
<v Speaker 3>could be just like I said, running the ball the

0:52:11.000 --> 0:52:13.839
<v Speaker 3>whole time and maybe just eating the clock. I could

0:52:13.880 --> 0:52:16.200
<v Speaker 3>see I could see them winning by twenty and I

0:52:16.239 --> 0:52:19.000
<v Speaker 3>can see this being kind of competitive or a back

0:52:19.080 --> 0:52:22.200
<v Speaker 3>door or And my numbers come up right on the

0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:25.560
<v Speaker 3>number twelve and a half, so I'm not interested in

0:52:25.560 --> 0:52:26.000
<v Speaker 3>that game.

0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:29.879
<v Speaker 1>Twelve and a half is tough. It's a big, big

0:52:29.960 --> 0:52:32.440
<v Speaker 1>number Todd game, you want. No part of.

0:52:33.880 --> 0:52:38.040
<v Speaker 2>The Saints Giants does not interest me. I'm not really

0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:40.840
<v Speaker 2>sure how the Saints can be favored by four and

0:52:40.920 --> 0:52:45.480
<v Speaker 2>a half against any team in the National Football League. However,

0:52:46.239 --> 0:52:48.839
<v Speaker 2>it's the Drew Locke show down in New York, and

0:52:48.880 --> 0:52:52.080
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't really make me too excited too, So I

0:52:52.239 --> 0:52:57.160
<v Speaker 2>just don't really see how you can get involved in that, Willy.

0:52:58.040 --> 0:52:59.600
<v Speaker 4>I was going to use that one. But in a

0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:01.839
<v Speaker 4>sake of being different, and there's a lot to choose from,

0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:05.600
<v Speaker 4>I'll go Vikings Falcons just because if Cousins is banged up,

0:53:05.600 --> 0:53:07.160
<v Speaker 4>you just don't want any part of Atlanta. If they

0:53:07.160 --> 0:53:09.239
<v Speaker 4>throw Pannis in there, that's a rookie versus Flores. But

0:53:09.600 --> 0:53:11.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, just on the surface, that's too many points.

0:53:11.480 --> 0:53:13.640
<v Speaker 4>So that's a good one for me to stay away from.

0:53:14.360 --> 0:53:16.359
<v Speaker 1>I'll have the same preamble you did, which is there's

0:53:16.360 --> 0:53:17.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot to choose from, but for the sake of

0:53:17.960 --> 0:53:22.400
<v Speaker 1>being different, Bears Niners. What I was going to say, like,

0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be surprised by any outcome in that game

0:53:26.680 --> 0:53:30.560
<v Speaker 1>if the Niners showed up all of a sudden and

0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:33.800
<v Speaker 1>again with less with fewer bodies than they've ever had.

0:53:34.680 --> 0:53:36.600
<v Speaker 1>It wouldn't surprise me if they beat the Bears. The

0:53:36.640 --> 0:53:38.759
<v Speaker 1>Bears the Bears, after all, But if the Bears won,

0:53:38.800 --> 0:53:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be surprised either, So I want no part

0:53:41.040 --> 0:53:42.200
<v Speaker 1>of that game none.

0:53:42.360 --> 0:53:44.399
<v Speaker 4>Bears will have an advantage though, They will have seven

0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:46.200
<v Speaker 4>timeouts in this game because they get to carry over

0:53:46.239 --> 0:53:48.839
<v Speaker 4>the game the timeout they didn't use on Thanksgiving, which

0:53:48.840 --> 0:53:49.719
<v Speaker 4>is going to be big.

0:53:50.400 --> 0:53:55.319
<v Speaker 1>Hey, rimshot, it's very true, man, They're I don't know,

0:53:55.440 --> 0:53:58.040
<v Speaker 1>by the way, just let's say this in conclusion, I

0:53:58.080 --> 0:54:01.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know what to make of Caleb. Something just appears

0:54:01.960 --> 0:54:04.680
<v Speaker 1>to be a little off, you know what I mean, Like,

0:54:04.840 --> 0:54:07.799
<v Speaker 1>it's just like, dude, you couldn't call a timeout his

0:54:07.880 --> 0:54:12.040
<v Speaker 1>comments after the game, I don't know, man, And I

0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:18.239
<v Speaker 1>always quote Todd Todd's very amusing yet accurate interpretation of

0:54:18.280 --> 0:54:21.960
<v Speaker 1>caleb which is, and Bob, by the way, has this quantified,

0:54:21.960 --> 0:54:26.040
<v Speaker 1>which I have to finish with Bob. But Todd's comment was, Oh,

0:54:26.160 --> 0:54:29.200
<v Speaker 1>let me get this straight. You ran around for your life,

0:54:29.239 --> 0:54:32.080
<v Speaker 1>scrambling back and forth all over the field until your

0:54:32.120 --> 0:54:35.120
<v Speaker 1>five star receivers managed to get open against their four

0:54:35.200 --> 0:54:37.800
<v Speaker 1>star defending components. Oh, and you're not that good in

0:54:37.840 --> 0:54:40.000
<v Speaker 1>the NFL. What a surprise. But Bob, you had a

0:54:40.000 --> 0:54:42.080
<v Speaker 1>great Lincoln Riley thing with him, right.

0:54:42.560 --> 0:54:45.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, before the season started, I thought Jane Daniels was

0:54:45.920 --> 0:54:47.600
<v Speaker 3>going to be the best of the rookies, and that

0:54:47.719 --> 0:54:49.520
<v Speaker 3>Boat Nicks was probably going to be the second best,

0:54:49.520 --> 0:54:52.799
<v Speaker 3>just because he's got a high floor and you know,

0:54:52.880 --> 0:54:56.000
<v Speaker 3>sixty one or whatever career college starts, was ready to play.

0:54:56.920 --> 0:55:00.600
<v Speaker 3>But Lincoln Riley's quarterbacks are always good, and he's the

0:55:00.760 --> 0:55:04.360
<v Speaker 3>Going into this season, he was the second worst Lincoln

0:55:04.400 --> 0:55:09.520
<v Speaker 3>Riley quarterback, only ahead of Spencer Rattler. Wow, every other

0:55:09.560 --> 0:55:13.840
<v Speaker 3>Lincoln Riley quarterback had better collegiate numbers than than Williams.

0:55:15.239 --> 0:55:16.880
<v Speaker 3>So this year Miller Moss has been worse.

0:55:17.880 --> 0:55:20.360
<v Speaker 1>You have always been good about projecting from college to

0:55:20.800 --> 0:55:24.680
<v Speaker 1>pro with quarterbacks, if I'm not mistaken. Accuracy is the

0:55:24.719 --> 0:55:28.120
<v Speaker 1>biggest factor in predictive.

0:55:27.840 --> 0:55:31.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, translations. The best is accuracy, and that's why

0:55:31.080 --> 0:55:34.240
<v Speaker 3>I thought Nicks would be pretty good as a rookie.

0:55:34.320 --> 0:55:39.800
<v Speaker 3>Didn't makes quick decisions very accurate. Williams was not inaccurate,

0:55:40.520 --> 0:55:42.480
<v Speaker 3>but he threw a lot of balls in traffic with

0:55:42.560 --> 0:55:44.800
<v Speaker 3>great receivers who made him look good. I mean you

0:55:44.840 --> 0:55:48.520
<v Speaker 3>remember the receiving corp uh he had last year at

0:55:48.560 --> 0:55:51.799
<v Speaker 3>USC was very very good and they saved him a lot.

0:55:51.920 --> 0:55:55.080
<v Speaker 3>I just didn't think he'd be great. He could be

0:55:55.120 --> 0:55:58.359
<v Speaker 3>a good quarterback. I just didn't think he was near

0:55:58.400 --> 0:55:59.919
<v Speaker 3>the best quarterback come out of the draft.

0:56:00.719 --> 0:56:02.720
<v Speaker 1>Merril Hodge, who was on a numbers game, his famous

0:56:02.800 --> 0:56:05.160
<v Speaker 1>quote that we we play every time I bring up

0:56:05.239 --> 0:56:08.319
<v Speaker 1>Caleb's name is nothing special. I don't think. I don't

0:56:08.320 --> 0:56:08.960
<v Speaker 1>think he's special.

0:56:09.760 --> 0:56:10.319
<v Speaker 3>I don't think so.

0:56:10.440 --> 0:56:15.680
<v Speaker 1>All right, he ran, what's that He needs to run more?

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<v Speaker 1>He needs to run more, take off and run.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where a lot of his value is and he's

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<v Speaker 3>not using it.

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<v Speaker 1>Good point, Yeah, because he's not, he's that adds a

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<v Speaker 1>dimension to his game. Jayden Daniels is definitely. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Jayden Daniels is still nursing his injury, so he's cut

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<v Speaker 1>back on that some.

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<v Speaker 3>He's running a little more in the last couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>Daniels like he's running a little more and so his

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<v Speaker 3>ribs might be healed out.

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<v Speaker 1>Getting getting healed up. Thank you, Bob, always a pleasure man.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. All right, Doc, the great doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Bob d r Bob sports dot com at doctor Bob

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<v Speaker 1>sports dot com for all of his stuff across sports,

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<v Speaker 1>not just the NFL, college football, college basketball. It's all

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<v Speaker 1>there at doctor Bob sports dot com. I used to

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<v Speaker 1>work with Bob many years ago doing baseball. He's the best.

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<v Speaker 1>I always appreciate it. And in the staples of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>Todd wish Nev and Will Hill. Will Hill's podcast should

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<v Speaker 1>have bet more three times a week. Who's your latest guest? Will?

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<v Speaker 4>Mike Sando is going to be on Friday talking the

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<v Speaker 4>NFL awards, his process for you know, when he starts

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<v Speaker 4>to sort things, talking about this weekend's games, where Belichick

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<v Speaker 4>is going to be next to your A lot of.

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<v Speaker 2>Good stuff from Mike Sandal.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta get Sando back on a number skin. That's

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<v Speaker 1>my dude.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good listen. Yeah, that's a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Todd wish Nev again action still being shown

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<v Speaker 1>on showtime. You can see him with smoking hot Deanna

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<v Speaker 1>on there back in the day, and Todd is still

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<v Speaker 1>doing his college basketball. Can people join your discourse or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you would?

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<v Speaker 2>You You can send me a DM on on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't have time always to add all the people.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I anytime I get motivated to add people,

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<v Speaker 2>I will add you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, there you go, Thanks for listening, Good luck with

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<v Speaker 1>all your bets. Week fourteen and that ashes so holy,