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Speaker 1: to sixty seven of Creature Commandos, so make sure you're
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Speaker 3: In today's episode, we are going to be recapping that
Speaker 3: lost three episodes of Creature Commandos episodes five, episode six,
Speaker 3: and then in the air log, we're going to be
Speaker 3: jumping into a Binali recap and reaction to Creature Commandos
Speaker 3: season one.
Speaker 1: But first let's begin with episode five, The Iron Pot.
Speaker 1: Creature Commandos up. Now, okay, Creature Commandos. Checking that that
Speaker 1: that that episodes five command They really are episodes five
Speaker 1: and six of the uh always good be getting increasingly
Speaker 1: better and even more intriguing Creature Commando's program. Let's start
Speaker 1: with episode five, The Iron Pot. This is the Eric episode,
Speaker 1: and yes, I will say thank you for making Eric
Speaker 1: continuously terrible.
Speaker 3: I know, I'm actually like I have frast with that
Speaker 3: commitment to recognizing him as like the terrible undead insel
Speaker 3: that he is, Like, he's an.
Speaker 2: Awful, awful person, awful parts of many people put together
Speaker 2: into a person.
Speaker 3: And Yeah, I'm actually really impressed because I Frankenstein is
Speaker 3: usually frank sized monster is usually one of the mainstay
Speaker 3: characters of Creature Commandos. You have a big actor like
Speaker 3: David Harber. But I have been like continuously impressed by
Speaker 3: how realistic there being about this satur this guy have created.
Speaker 2: He's bad. He's a bad guy.
Speaker 1: So we open in the eighteen thirties. This is right
Speaker 1: after Eric murdered doctor Frankenstein after catching him in flagrante
Speaker 1: with the bride. You know that he's set on fire
Speaker 1: by the bride and then he falls out of the
Speaker 1: castle and then he washes up in a river where
Speaker 1: he's found by an old medicine woman. This hearkening very
Speaker 1: closely back to the original.
Speaker 3: Frank's definitely taking a lot of notes here, but just
Speaker 3: adding a little bit more of the bride into that origin.
Speaker 1: This old woman, Bogdana, she is she can't she's blind,
Speaker 1: but she has a wonderful, very cute dog, and she
Speaker 1: nurses Eric back to health, and Eric tries very hard
Speaker 1: to resist her charms all the time, and he's like
Speaker 1: mean to her, but an increasingly like he's mean in
Speaker 1: an increasingly familiar and warm way to her, like where
Speaker 1: you can feel like he's warming up to her. That
Speaker 1: is intercut with the present storyline in which Eric and
Speaker 1: Flag are trying to figure out, like what's the deal
Speaker 1: with the creature commando mission to go kill the princess?
Speaker 1: So they go and they investigate McPherson, who is the
Speaker 1: psychologist who came in and basically convinced Waller that okay,
Speaker 1: we have to we have to listen to this prophecy
Speaker 1: that the princess is going to take over the world
Speaker 1: because YadA, YadA, YadA. So they investigate McPherson. They follow
Speaker 1: her to her college. They watch her weirdly hit on
Speaker 1: her students. Something seems very off here.
Speaker 3: Very weird vibes not at all someone that you would
Speaker 3: take advice from or listen to if you were Waller.
Speaker 2: From what we see, very very strange.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Flag calls like backed to Pekolistan and warns the
Speaker 1: chief of the guards, like, hey, creature Karmanos are there
Speaker 1: not to help, but they're probably gonna assassinate the princess.
Speaker 1: Flag and Eric sneak into McPherson's home and just to
Speaker 1: do more investigation and watch her because I think she's
Speaker 1: being weird. Turns out she's.
Speaker 4: Clayface because the real McPherson is dead and the post
Speaker 4: that you have been the person you've been seeing is
Speaker 4: fucking Clayface, which you know Alan Tudick is going to
Speaker 4: be voicing him, which we can then assume that.
Speaker 3: He will be playing Clayface in the live action Clayface
Speaker 3: film that will be veteran by filmmaker Mike Flanagan. Very
Speaker 3: excited about that going to be our horror apparently, and
Speaker 3: I think Flannagan has the chops to do it.
Speaker 2: I'm very interested in this great twist.
Speaker 3: I think it is really always fun to see a
Speaker 3: big character like this. I also have to say, like, honestly,
Speaker 3: the way that James Gunn is bringing in these huge
Speaker 3: characters and setting stuff up for the DCU is incredibly exciting,
Speaker 3: and I agree actually feels impactful. And I think there's
Speaker 3: a reason that this show feels like it keeps getting better,
Speaker 3: and it's because it's a kind of mix of your
Speaker 3: classic Saturday morning cartoon, getting loads of different characters, never
Speaker 3: know who you know is going to show up, but
Speaker 3: it has obviously this darker, more adult tone, and also
Speaker 3: it has ramifications for the next year of cinema, or
Speaker 3: at least it feels like, you know, as we've as
Speaker 3: we felt as it felt like it feels like it could.
Speaker 2: So we'll have to wait.
Speaker 3: But we are now in twenty twenty five, probably the
Speaker 3: year of Superman, so it's going to be interesting to
Speaker 3: see how these do play in and also kind of
Speaker 3: great to see like an actually scary.
Speaker 1: I thought the animation of clay Face like the actual
Speaker 1: So Eric can Flag end up in a tussle with
Speaker 1: clay Face who Fox Flag up breaks his back Baines style.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good, like nightfull reference that he definitely just
Speaker 3: like breaks his back like not looking good for him.
Speaker 1: And then Eric gets basically swallowed by clay Face, but
Speaker 1: does manage to plug his finger into an electrical socket,
Speaker 1: shocking Clayface and I escape. Meanwhile, in the flashback plotline,
Speaker 1: we see that Eric eventually kills bog Down strangles her
Speaker 1: as her dog scratches on the door outside and then leaves,
Speaker 1: letting you know, like, this guy is a huge piece
Speaker 1: of fucking, terrible piece of shit and that sets us
Speaker 1: up for the next What did you think about the episode?
Speaker 1: I thought, again, first of all, from just a story perspective,
Speaker 1: really cool twitch that I just when you think you
Speaker 1: have a handle on what this show is, it flips
Speaker 1: and I love the layers to it. Like as we
Speaker 1: were saying when we were first last time we talked
Speaker 1: about this show, I think for episode three Cheers of
Speaker 1: the ten Men, or episode four, maybe the Weasel Bottle,
Speaker 1: it's oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that episode was hot breaking, you know.
Speaker 1: As we were saying when we were last covering the show,
Speaker 1: it first seemed like it was going to be this
Speaker 1: very straightforward suicide squad type edgy into some far flung
Speaker 1: part of the DCEU to do something, some secret mission
Speaker 1: that's very deadly, and then it, you know, the stakes
Speaker 1: then got a lot higher when it seemed like, hold on,
Speaker 1: it's going to kill the Justice League along with Gorilla
Speaker 1: Grod and like over the world. And now the fact
Speaker 1: that that seems to be part of a larger plot
Speaker 1: because you actually this is not very often a work
Speaker 1: like a mastermind on his own exactly.
Speaker 2: It's like a work for high a gig.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is very interesting now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we get those like nods about how McPherson
Speaker 3: knew a lot about Amazonian law, so like, is that.
Speaker 2: Why he was sent there? Who is he sent by?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: Was this another secret Waller kind of you know, she
Speaker 3: has always a lot of backup plans, that.
Speaker 1: Is a thing. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she loves to have like a you know, she's
Speaker 2: like Batman.
Speaker 3: She always has a plan to take down anyone that
Speaker 3: she's working with. But I'm I'm very interested. I think
Speaker 3: this was another great episode.
Speaker 2: I don't think it.
Speaker 3: Was like as good as Weasel, but I do still
Speaker 3: think it was really good. I love that they have
Speaker 3: not for all the monsters that they have made us
Speaker 3: empathetic for. I love that Eric Frankenstein is not one
Speaker 3: of them because he does not deserve it. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm definitely interested to see where it goes as
Speaker 3: we head towards the final episode of the season.
Speaker 1: Next episode episode six, Pretel skelet This is the Doctor
Speaker 1: Phosphorus episode.
Speaker 2: We see this episode before the finale to.
Speaker 1: Last episode or the finale, we see in a flashback
Speaker 1: that once upon a time, like nuclear physicist Alexander Sartorius
Speaker 1: gets some illicit funding from infamous crime boss Rupert Thorn
Speaker 1: in order to you know, make a cure for cancer
Speaker 1: using this special.
Speaker 3: Idea that sounds like something more should be doing that
Speaker 3: with that powers instead like turning people into dinosaurs, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Doing that and using this special like nuclear fusion process
Speaker 1: that doctor Sartorius has been developing. However, alex realizes that
Speaker 1: this is like a nuclear weapons program, actually an illicit
Speaker 1: nuclear weapons program that Rupert is gonna be basically selling
Speaker 1: nukes to like different countries.
Speaker 2: Not good.
Speaker 1: Not good, And upon discovering this, Thorn kills doctor Sartorius's
Speaker 1: family and wife, fridges them, and then frames him for
Speaker 1: the crime and also locks alex just for his own
Speaker 1: pleasure in his own like nuclear fusion engine to like
Speaker 1: watch him get killed by that love.
Speaker 3: To be evil gangster in Gotham, Like you always have
Speaker 3: to take it the next level as well.
Speaker 2: Guy, Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 3: Just kill him, but that would also mean that he
Speaker 3: couldn't get his powers. And this actually makes a lot
Speaker 3: of sense that we're kind of seeing this origin in
Speaker 3: that more Gotham space with someone like Rupert Thorn, because
Speaker 3: Posphorus is originally like a Batman bag guy. So that's
Speaker 3: also why we will get that Batman moment that we'll
Speaker 3: talk about soon.
Speaker 1: And this is of course how doctor Phosphus becomes Doctor Phosphorus.
Speaker 1: Now in the present there's a very exciting capstone to
Speaker 1: that flashback storyline. But in the in the present, Eric
Speaker 1: you know, sends flags of the flag is all fucked up,
Speaker 1: his back is broken. He goes his back is.
Speaker 3: Broken, as we thought he got broken. Shouldn't have been
Speaker 3: a widow.
Speaker 1: But of course he Eric wants to get to Pakolastan
Speaker 1: to get back together with the bride, so he hijacks
Speaker 1: a private jet. Also, Phosphorus and the rest of the
Speaker 1: Creature commandos have been kind of separated after the tussle
Speaker 1: with the guards, and they're kind of making their way,
Speaker 1: you know, through different parts of the city and the
Speaker 1: surrounding landscape to safety and then eventually towards the palace
Speaker 1: where I guess they're going to kill the princess.
Speaker 3: I gotta say, how annoying must it be to be
Speaker 3: like doctor Phosphorus or one of like the like Sea Tier,
Speaker 3: like creature commandos who are just not really involved in
Speaker 3: any of this drama, like The Bride's drama, Grillo's drama.
Speaker 3: Like how annoying must it be to be the ones
Speaker 3: who are just like kind of left in the wake
Speaker 3: of all these interpersonal like shenanigans that these guys are
Speaker 3: getting into.
Speaker 1: It must be quite boring and annoying, I would be calling, ehha.
Speaker 1: So Phosphorus is like just on the streets and he
Speaker 1: encounters like this child who reminds him of his own son,
Speaker 1: who's of course now past. Meanwhile, the Bride and Nina
Speaker 1: are hiding in a local brothel where of course they
Speaker 1: end up defending the workers there. And Weasel is like
Speaker 1: out in the woods on the edge of the city
Speaker 1: where he immediately becomes friendly with a pack of wolves
Speaker 1: and it's very very cute. They play fetch and they
Speaker 1: all sleep together in a little pack.
Speaker 2: Very cute. I love Weasel.
Speaker 3: I'm a Justice for Weasel fan also as well, interestingly,
Speaker 3: I feel like James Gunn is really eager to showcase
Speaker 3: just how normal meta humans are in his DCU, because
Speaker 3: when Nina and the Bride are protecting the girls at
Speaker 3: the brothel. They're protecting them from these, like I think
Speaker 3: new characters called the Craik Brothers, and they're meta humans.
Speaker 3: They're not just like shitty guys. They're like meta humans
Speaker 3: with electual powers. Like, I feel like a lot of
Speaker 3: this is building the world of this Superman inspired DCU
Speaker 3: that we're seeing, where there are already meta humans everywhere. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Like this is completely different than anything we've kind of
Speaker 3: seen before, which I thought was very interesting.
Speaker 1: I like it. I like that they're going this route.
Speaker 1: So everybody eventually comes together in a field like heading
Speaker 1: towards the palace, and they are reunited, and we would
Speaker 1: imagine in episode seven and this is all going to
Speaker 1: come to a head, We're gonna find out what happens. Yeah, yeah, Now,
Speaker 1: I mean I guess this is all a setup in
Speaker 1: order to get Waller to assassinate the princess. But the
Speaker 1: question is, oh, and we should say the end of
Speaker 1: the Yeah, the end of the Doctor Phosphorus flashback is
Speaker 1: so now is Doctor Phosphorus? Alex takes over Rupert's all
Speaker 1: of his rackets. He becomes basically like a crime lord,
Speaker 1: and this brings him into direct conflict. One night at
Speaker 1: the club that he now.
Speaker 3: Owns, which is called the ice Lounge, so it feels
Speaker 3: like a future Iceberg Lounge.
Speaker 1: Potentially, this brings him into direct conflict with who else
Speaker 1: Batman A very chunky, a very sick Batman.
Speaker 3: Looking very it's very like what if Frank Miller's Dark
Speaker 3: Knight was in the opening of Batman the Animated series.
Speaker 3: Obviously we did get an episode, a dream like episode
Speaker 3: where we got the Frank Miller's Dark Knight return style
Speaker 3: story in Batman Animated series.
Speaker 2: I will say he looks very chonky.
Speaker 3: As super producer Joelle told me, she was like, that
Speaker 3: does not look like Battinson and I was like, correct,
Speaker 3: I too had that fear.
Speaker 2: But James Gunn did do a great tweet.
Speaker 3: I have to say his social media presence during this
Speaker 3: rollout to PCU it is something to be studied, the
Speaker 3: way that he works alongside the DC Studios and Comics
Speaker 3: social media teams who are absolutely working their ass off
Speaker 3: and really creating something exciting. Here he posted, don't worry
Speaker 3: too much about the silhouette, like this is just the
Speaker 3: cool silhouette that we use.
Speaker 1: Just showing that he understands that he knows he's like
Speaker 1: looks there's a big, chonky Batman.
Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean that it's It doesn't mean it
Speaker 3: is or isn't the same Batman. You know, it's just
Speaker 3: in that moment that is how imposing Batman looks to
Speaker 3: Dr Posphorus. And obviously the reason that James gun knew
Speaker 3: he had to do that tweet is this is the
Speaker 3: first time that we have seen Batman in the DCU huge, you.
Speaker 1: Know, a really huge moment. Now, who if indeed this
Speaker 1: is a scheme to get basically US forces to assassinate
Speaker 1: the member of like the royal member, ruling member of
Speaker 1: Pecola Stan Who's behind this?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And also like, is Circe's vision true because now was
Speaker 3: clay Face always the professor, always the professor?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Was the Professor taken out?
Speaker 3: I'm very interested to see where that goes, because.
Speaker 2: It does seem like the notion of the Circes visual
Speaker 2: We got.
Speaker 3: That incredible cameo filled kind of future where all the
Speaker 3: Justice League died, where we could technically see Batman there,
Speaker 3: but like in a more he's dead skeleton kind of way,
Speaker 3: And I'm very interested to see is this gonna be
Speaker 3: kind of a Skeleton Crew thing where actually all of
Speaker 3: this could just be a training game because.
Speaker 2: Walla wanted to kill the.
Speaker 3: Princess and destabilize Polakistan and train her task for sem
Speaker 3: maybe she is that evil. It could basically just be
Speaker 3: a little closed circle, which I think is always effective
Speaker 3: if you're not sure where you're going next. But James Gunn,
Speaker 3: it feels like everything he does right now has a
Speaker 3: lot of intention, and he's talked about how he essentially
Speaker 3: greenlit his own show with this one because this is
Speaker 3: what he wanted to do. So I'm very excited to
Speaker 3: see what comes next with the finale, and also how
Speaker 3: much impact and how many loose ends are left after
Speaker 3: what is clearly going to be I think like a
Speaker 3: very bloody, gory battle. Let's see where we're left and
Speaker 3: who survives. I I think Weasel, Doc Posphorus, the Bride Nina.
Speaker 2: I think that's our.
Speaker 3: Core for we see them do the like slow motion
Speaker 3: type walk, I would hope.
Speaker 2: I do feel like with Weazel.
Speaker 3: You know, he is played by Sean Gunn, James's brother,
Speaker 3: so hopefully he's not gonna kill him. But I do
Speaker 3: feel like with all the softness and sweetness they've been
Speaker 3: building into him and he's misunderstood past. That would be
Speaker 3: a heartbreaking death, But I think I would hope that
Speaker 3: Eric will be the one who dies. I don't know
Speaker 3: if we're going to see Rick Flagg Senia come back
Speaker 3: in any way, seeing as he has a you know,
Speaker 3: broken back. But it's the DCU, it's comic books. Anything
Speaker 3: can happen. Uh, yeah, very interesting. What is your biggest
Speaker 3: prediction for the finale?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I think that there we're missing a
Speaker 1: It's waller, you know, so it and it's so it
Speaker 1: feels like there's a betrayal. It feels like there is
Speaker 1: a member of the squad maybe mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: She usually has like a secret inside. I'd kind of
Speaker 2: fail safe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is working both sides perhaps, And you know,
Speaker 1: thinking about doctor Phosphorus, he is a villain. He was
Speaker 1: a crime boss. He was probably the most successful of
Speaker 1: the Creature Commandos in terms of just being a metahuman
Speaker 1: in the world, putting his powers to use for evil.
Speaker 1: And it does leave me wondering like, is he or
Speaker 1: another member of the Squad more in the know than
Speaker 1: they appear to be, Whether it's as part of this
Speaker 1: scheme to kill the princess, either for the right reasons
Speaker 1: or the wrong reasons. Like it feels like there's something there,
Speaker 1: that there's somebody working both sides, and I don't know
Speaker 1: who it is yet, so that would be my prediction,
Speaker 1: somebody who is working both sides.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 3: I think that you're definitely onto it. And we'll talk
Speaker 3: about it in alogue, which is coming up.
Speaker 1: And where that episode seven Creature Commandos. The finale a
Speaker 1: very funny monster. We open with a flashback the Infantnina
Speaker 1: is born. She has a very severe birth defects in
Speaker 1: which her lungs are apparently on the outside of her body,
Speaker 1: which by the way, is a real.
Speaker 2: Real thing. Just want to say thing.
Speaker 3: I knew a kid who was born with all of
Speaker 3: his organs on the outside of his body, and guess what,
Speaker 3: the incredible NHS and medical geniuses were able to help
Speaker 3: him live a fulfilling and healthy life. So I just
Speaker 3: want to say, you do not have to turn someone
Speaker 3: into the creature from the Black Kragoon they born this way.
Speaker 3: I always think disability and monsters, we need to be
Speaker 3: a little bit more thoughtful, guys, a little bit more thoughtful.
Speaker 3: She could have just been born with girls. But anyway,
Speaker 3: she's born with the lungs on the outside, and luckily
Speaker 3: she has a very lovely dad who just cares for
Speaker 3: us so much.
Speaker 1: Her father is Professor Mazerski, is a extremely minor DC character.
Speaker 1: He dedicates his life to designing solutions to Nina's maladies
Speaker 1: and to eventually find a cure. Rosie, do you have
Speaker 1: anything to tell us about Professor?
Speaker 2: Of course I do, Of course I do. Of course
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 3: His first appearance, now this is great, appeared the first
Speaker 3: same year I was born, nineteen eighty eight, in a
Speaker 3: book that almost certainly no one has ever heard of
Speaker 3: called Young All Stars Issue twelve, not even the first
Speaker 3: Young He was issue twelve. But he is in the
Speaker 3: context of the comics, he is like a biochemist who
Speaker 3: works for the United States during the forties and World
Speaker 3: War two, and he and he was one of the
Speaker 3: original people behind Project M in that law and he
Speaker 3: actually worked in like a kind of underwater like classic
Speaker 3: evil sort of like almost like a classic evil villains lare.
Speaker 3: And he would give people almost like power Broker. He
Speaker 3: would actually be able to give people super like turn
Speaker 3: people into super soldiers, sort of Captain America style usually
Speaker 3: what they would call mutants, and eventually that would become
Speaker 3: the creature commandos. But in that version he is not
Speaker 3: like the father to to Nina. That is a that
Speaker 3: is a new and new part. But yeah, very interesting
Speaker 3: that that happened.
Speaker 1: We returned to the present Ba's to Pacola Stan where
Speaker 1: Eric creation of doctor frankenste is just chewing his zuber
Speaker 1: driver's ear off, not saying the worst actually but figuratively basically, yeah,
Speaker 1: just like continuing to like obsess about the bride and
Speaker 1: how you know she doesn't that doesn't that overreaction kind
Speaker 1: of show that actually she does like love him, and like.
Speaker 3: Also like they're gonna make beautiful female friendly pornos together.
Speaker 2: She was created for him.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be like how else could you get? And
Speaker 1: then clearly the the uber driver is terrified.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he's like crying, his nose is running.
Speaker 3: It's really good at you, very funny.
Speaker 1: We arrive at the palace where the guards are on
Speaker 1: higher alert, but it doesn't matter because the commando's basically
Speaker 1: just would climbing through the window and Eric.
Speaker 4: I just have to say, climb up the window.
Speaker 3: Has such bad security? Come on, worst possible security like
Speaker 3: just bad.
Speaker 1: Bad get some ad t put some like motion sensors
Speaker 1: on the ring doorbell.
Speaker 2: Like all these guys, all these.
Speaker 3: Guys have the craziest, sickest anime armor, but like they
Speaker 3: are just like chilling looking hats and doing.
Speaker 2: Their hair or something. I don't know.
Speaker 3: They need to they need to figure out anyway.
Speaker 1: Eric pulls up just in time to see his beloved
Speaker 1: the bride, like just bludgeoning the guard whose job it
Speaker 1: was to guard the window, just bludgeoning him to death. Uh.
Speaker 1: Nina meanwhile, has concerns where the commanders climbed in was
Speaker 1: like a security room like in one of the towers.
Speaker 1: So they have like all these screens that show them
Speaker 1: like what's going on in the castle. And she's like,
Speaker 1: are you sure that killing the princess is like the
Speaker 1: right thing to do? Doc Phosphorus, who I have increasingly
Speaker 1: been like what, I think.
Speaker 3: He's my MVP of the show, just like a personal
Speaker 3: fun on the MVP because like I like how just
Speaker 3: like he is so resigned and he's got such a fun,
Speaker 3: dead pan delivery, and he is kind of the only
Speaker 3: one who I feel like hasn't got caught up in
Speaker 3: the emotional Shenanigans of the creatures.
Speaker 1: He's just like, yeah, but even if even if it's
Speaker 1: a mistake, who fucking cares. It's just just that she's
Speaker 1: just there's billions of them. It's not that deal. The
Speaker 1: bride who by now is it's never been discussed, but
Speaker 1: is clearly like the leader of the team is like, Nina,
Speaker 1: gets your fucking head in the game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's kind of transitioned to that place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like, Nina, get your head in the game,
Speaker 1: like we have to do this to save the world.
Speaker 1: Like let's go, like get like tie your shoelaces and
Speaker 1: let's go. Meanwhile, Eric is climbing the wall where he
Speaker 1: saw the Bride in the window and he's trying to
Speaker 1: get a.
Speaker 3: Giant Frankenstein monster is climbing the wall and like, no,
Speaker 3: he stopped.
Speaker 2: No red alert.
Speaker 3: It's not like a booby trap because he's just literally
Speaker 3: gripping on those bricks when he's climbing up the wall,
Speaker 3: like one of them doesn't fall out, Like there's no
Speaker 3: little kind of explosions that No, they just like just
Speaker 3: let him do it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 3: I feel like if you are planning to destroy the world,
Speaker 3: your security should be better.
Speaker 2: Gotta gotta amp it up, guys.
Speaker 1: The other thing is like they're in this security room
Speaker 1: where the guards were ostensibly like defending the castle, and
Speaker 1: there's like four screens. How big this castle.
Speaker 5: Is so huge, it's like there's a lake inside of it,
Speaker 5: like it's yeah, and they've got like four like regular
Speaker 5: twenty three inch like LCD screens with just like four
Speaker 5: camera angles and that's it.
Speaker 1: That's all we're covering.
Speaker 3: All the cameras are just like focused on exactly what
Speaker 3: the guards are up to.
Speaker 2: I'm like, guys, come on, like what is going on?
Speaker 2: And they have nothing?
Speaker 1: Nothing on the way or just.
Speaker 2: Why wide open?
Speaker 3: I need to they need to call in like Brian
Speaker 3: Tafa Like they're like he's.
Speaker 2: Like Bob Rescue. He's like fortress rescue. You guys have
Speaker 2: never ever, ever.
Speaker 1: Ever ever seen a fortress this easy to break into?
Speaker 2: Like what is this?
Speaker 1: What's this? Like?
Speaker 6: You need to get no staff, I'm I'm I'm firing
Speaker 6: the head of security. He's just standing around, okay, doing karaoke,
Speaker 6: Like you know, something needs to happen because it's it's.
Speaker 2: Not going well for them. And she's gonna learn that.
Speaker 1: Eric climbs through the window, just as the commandos who
Speaker 1: were like rerunning tape on the on the security system
Speaker 1: are puzzling over a still from a recently recorded a
Speaker 1: security tape that shows that the princess is clearly meeting
Speaker 1: with someone who is a Meti human and is clearly clayface,
Speaker 1: although you can't see it, faith, but the body tells
Speaker 1: you that it's clay Face. The bride immediately magdumps her
Speaker 1: entire like pistol to Eric's chest. He falls out the window,
Speaker 1: and she jumps down, finishes him off, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: calls him a stalker, which was very cathartic. And yeah,
Speaker 1: and then the and then doctor Phosphorus makes some sort
Speaker 1: of quip and she says, can it ghost?
Speaker 3: I gotta I golla a chuckle from that one?
Speaker 1: That was really Yeah, I got a great chuckle, classic
Speaker 1: DC Marvel kind of humor that often happens, you know what.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this as the quick as side
Speaker 1: I was thinking about I forget which issue it is,
Speaker 1: the classic early Claremont run. I think pre John Burne.
Speaker 1: This is still cockra when uh, when the X Men
Speaker 1: are out it's Christmas. They're out at Rockefeller Center watching
Speaker 1: the ice skating, and in the background is clearly uh
Speaker 1: like kids in Lowis Lane in a crowd, and also
Speaker 1: doctor Doom can like be seen in the background ice skating,
Speaker 1: like just having a good time on the ice of
Speaker 1: Rock and Feller Center. Anyway, I love stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the really really fun stuff.
Speaker 3: And I think James Gunn has rightfully earned his kind.
Speaker 2: Of with his foot in both worlds.
Speaker 3: He really is good at kind of playing those those lanes.
Speaker 3: And also as well, there was a time when that
Speaker 3: was not the case, Like we were not in a
Speaker 3: world where those two would feel comfortable doing that. But
Speaker 3: we add in the eternels they mentioned Batman, like these
Speaker 3: these lines are getting blood and if the corporate conglomerates
Speaker 3: get what they want, they'll probably all be owned by
Speaker 3: the same company in like five years anyway, But for now, hilarious.
Speaker 3: I love that ghostwriter equip great writing.
Speaker 1: We go to another flashback. It's maybe you know, less
Speaker 1: than a year since near his birth from Massourski has
Speaker 1: created a kind of lung vest for her, but his
Speaker 1: wife is upset and thinks they should have let Nina
Speaker 1: very and like.
Speaker 2: Iron lung again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you didn't need to do something like that, those
Speaker 3: very specific ways that you do this. But yeah, the
Speaker 3: wife sucks like I'm like this is crazy, Like don't
Speaker 3: just let at least marriage just killing.
Speaker 1: She's like, I don't want to raise this child that
Speaker 1: I'm out. We go back to the present. The commandos
Speaker 1: discover where the princess is. She's over in this giant
Speaker 1: forest that's like inside the walls, getting ready to take
Speaker 1: her like a daily energizing swim. They commandos sneak over
Speaker 1: and begin the kind of long process of melting through
Speaker 1: a wall so they can get to this lake and
Speaker 1: feel like.
Speaker 3: They should have got some bricks that couldn't be melted.
Speaker 3: I don't know, just like little guys.
Speaker 1: Another flashback, Nina is now a todd her she's struggling
Speaker 1: a little more with the with a very heavy vest.
Speaker 1: And this is where the professor decides, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn my daughter into it.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm gonna get her into a fish pot.
Speaker 1: Guys, are there easier things? Are there other things?
Speaker 2: Any just turn her into a fish? He's why did
Speaker 2: I just turn be real?
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be real as much as I was cheering
Speaker 3: him on earlier, and I do love that he just
Speaker 3: really wanted to save his door.
Speaker 2: I think the fish. I think he always had this
Speaker 2: fish planting up his sleeve. I think he was trying to.
Speaker 3: Make a fish girl, and he was like perfect timing
Speaker 3: time to make a fish babe.
Speaker 1: Completely, you don't just like jump immediately to what if
Speaker 1: I just make her exactly?
Speaker 2: You would have.
Speaker 1: Tried something more, much more uh normal and within the
Speaker 1: realms of of regular modern surgical technology. Anyway, Uh it works.
Speaker 1: She's beginning is breathing underwater. We go to the present,
Speaker 1: the princess is swimming, she's or going to swim, and Sergey,
Speaker 1: head of guards, is like, is this a really good idea?
Speaker 1: Like there's like a super villain team that's here to
Speaker 1: kill you maybe, and she's like, shut up, I'm doing it.
Speaker 1: So she goes up and she's about to jump off
Speaker 1: into the lake just as the commandos come through the wall.
Speaker 1: They see her preparing to jump in, and Weasel is
Speaker 1: freaking out because he's like, well that's the nice lady
Speaker 1: that like played fetch with me for several hours, Like
Speaker 1: do we really have to do that? We really have
Speaker 1: to kill her, and so there's this conflict within the team.
Speaker 1: We go to another flashback. The professor is now bringing
Speaker 1: Nina to a private school. She's a teenager. Teenage. Nina
Speaker 1: is brilliant, she speaks for languages, She's like a chess master,
Speaker 1: She's this and that, Like she's like the dream student.
Speaker 3: But they're obviously like your fish go the teachers, the students.
Speaker 1: The students are to our kid style like they're the absence,
Speaker 1: which is also funny because she's like really.
Speaker 3: She's like really cool and also like ostessisibly obviously I'm
Speaker 3: talking about when she's not a teenager, but for like
Speaker 3: a fish girl, she's also like conventionally attractive.
Speaker 2: Like I feel like there's at least one month the
Speaker 2: fucker at that school who would have been like.
Speaker 1: Simple, there's gonna be at least one of least monsterfucker
Speaker 1: who's like, you know.
Speaker 2: What, go banging board for a fish. Let's let's go,
Speaker 2: let's se what happens.
Speaker 1: She's already moisture not an issue. He's ready to go. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We go to Belle Reeve, where Flag is like beginning
Speaker 1: to regain consciousness. Uh. He tells Waller about Clayface impersonating
Speaker 1: Professor McPherson, who gave them the analysis that sirc Uh
Speaker 1: wanted to kill the princess because the princess was gonna
Speaker 1: destroy the world. And he says, well, that was clearly
Speaker 1: like a mess up because clay Face was impersonating the
Speaker 1: the professor, the doctor. We go back to hold stand Okay,
Speaker 1: the bride. They're trying to figure out the creature. Commanders
Speaker 1: are like, how do we do this? And they're like, wait, water,
Speaker 1: holy shit, we have fish. Why don't you go over
Speaker 1: there and swim under the water and just stab her
Speaker 1: up as she's like swimming and it'll be privata.
Speaker 2: I just got to say, you couldn't, like any like couldn't.
Speaker 3: I don't think doctor Phosphorus is gonna go out if
Speaker 3: he goes in war, so he could have done it
Speaker 3: because he doesn't need to breathe. The bride, she's already dead.
Speaker 3: I don't think she needs to breathe. Yeah, I feel
Speaker 3: like anyone else could have done Weasel, he could probably swim.
Speaker 2: He's not gonna do it. He likes that. But Nina,
Speaker 2: she's also not really a kill off. That's like what
Speaker 2: we've seen.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of the issue. This is like,
Speaker 1: I don't think she is the tools.
Speaker 2: She doesn't have the emotional chops.
Speaker 1: We go to the are one of our final flashbacks.
Speaker 1: Things have become so bad at school that Nina's like,
Speaker 1: I'm out. She writes her dad a note saying I'm
Speaker 1: leaving the human world. That's it. I can't live like this.
Speaker 1: Professor Mazerski is distraught, and Nina enters the waters and
Speaker 1: the wetlands around Star City and lives there for a while.
Speaker 1: The Princess dives in the water she's going for a swim,
Speaker 1: and you know, Nina is like, I don't want to
Speaker 1: do this. The rest of the Commander's talk her into it.
Speaker 1: They're like, you can do it. You're a killer, You're
Speaker 1: a monster like us. It's awesome. And then Nina's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but wait, hold on the bride. You said that I'm
Speaker 1: actually like human, like I'm not a monster. She's like,
Speaker 1: I was fucking lying because I'm a bitch. Like this
Speaker 1: is great, Like you're gonna be one of us. Last,
Speaker 1: we go to the final flashback, which is truly horrible.
Speaker 1: Nina has her existence has been discovered because somebody snapped
Speaker 1: a photo of her while she was gollum like eating
Speaker 1: a fish by you know, delicious fish in the in
Speaker 1: the lakes around Star City, and this gets aired on
Speaker 1: the news. Dad realizes that that's his daughter. He runs
Speaker 1: down there just as she's been captured and dragged out
Speaker 1: of the water, and he wants to go over and
Speaker 1: talk to her, and he's going he runs up and
Speaker 1: he's like saying, you know, and then in what is
Speaker 1: truly one of the worst police shoots fiction ever. This
Speaker 1: is absolutely one of the most instant fictional police shoots ever.
Speaker 1: I'm not putting it past any cop to do this, but.
Speaker 2: It's truly like, I don't make any sense.
Speaker 1: This guy goes to jail, he shoots Dad in the back.
Speaker 1: He's pulling his daughter, yeah, and Nina watches him die,
Speaker 1: and everybody's just like.
Speaker 3: Oh well, and just like they just throw her in
Speaker 3: like a war prison that they had ready, and they're
Speaker 3: just like, is Nina like they just had her because
Speaker 3: she was just swimming around.
Speaker 2: I feel like that's not really she committed No, you
Speaker 2: killed by Dad.
Speaker 3: It's not like you know, the rest of people in
Speaker 3: bellp have usually like you know.
Speaker 6: Blood doctor Foster is he tried to kill Superman with
Speaker 6: a kryptonide bullet.
Speaker 3: Like, okay, Doctorosphorus done knows the bad Like, uh, Nina
Speaker 3: just King Shark is been swimming hundreds of people.
Speaker 1: Silly, It's truly insane. Anyway, we go back to the President.
Speaker 1: Weasel can't do it. Weasel can't be part of this
Speaker 1: because he's the princesses was so nice. Dam He is
Speaker 1: freaking out. Doctor Phosphorus tries to strain him, he bites.
Speaker 1: Doctor Phosphorus dives into the water. Now the guards are alert.
Speaker 1: Now the Princess is alert, and she spots Nina, and
Speaker 1: she takes the knife because again, Nina is not a
Speaker 1: trained assassin, a warrior at all, not even her knife.
Speaker 1: It's the bride's knife. The Princess takes a knife and
Speaker 1: stabs the shit out of Nina, whose body floats to
Speaker 1: the surface. She's dead. At the same time, the Bride,
Speaker 1: who is like shocked at all of this, uh, gets
Speaker 1: a call from Waller who's like, hey, my bad, we
Speaker 1: gotta call it off because clay Face and the whole
Speaker 1: thing and just put a pin in that and I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry. Let's pause it. Later at the Palace, the
Speaker 1: Creature commandos surviving Creature commandos are shaken, except for Weasel,
Speaker 1: who's like getting pats on the head and belly scratches
Speaker 1: from the guards because he's got you know, a hero
Speaker 1: of fucking pacoles Dan. The bride goes to talk to
Speaker 1: the princess, ye who and the princess is like, don't worry, like,
Speaker 1: I don't hold it against you. Were just doing your job.
Speaker 1: I get it, like I was framed by Sirce and
Speaker 1: that's so crazy. The bride is like, no, actually, I've
Speaker 1: been working this out in the couple of hours since
Speaker 1: I sent a wonderful woman to her death unprepared for
Speaker 1: which was awaiting her. But I've been thinking about it
Speaker 1: since then, and I realized that hold on, we saw
Speaker 1: Clay face with you on the security tapes. You sent
Speaker 1: a spy to spy on us at bel Rev. Like
Speaker 1: I've figured all this out. I hears all the evidence
Speaker 1: and basically like it was all true. You're planning to
Speaker 1: invade the rest so the world, destroy America and kill
Speaker 1: the Justice League, like I know it, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to kill you. And I'm not going to kill you
Speaker 1: because of national security, because it's my job. Because Amanda
Speaker 1: Walla pays my bills. I'm going to do it to
Speaker 1: a venge whose death is my fault and she's my
Speaker 1: pal and all this, and the princess goes for like
Speaker 1: a hilarious, like ivory handled pirate fucking gun.
Speaker 2: The guys like, don't you have like an emergency button?
Speaker 2: Shouldn't you just press that?
Speaker 1: There's something You've got all these guards in high tech
Speaker 1: security armor, and then in your top drawer is like
Speaker 1: a fucking pistol from seventeen eighty five, like on a
Speaker 1: pirate sloop. Babe, what is anyway? She goes for the
Speaker 1: gun and the bride kills her. The bride puts a
Speaker 1: bullet in her rain. She's dead. The commandos then are
Speaker 1: making or like, let's get out of here before anybody
Speaker 1: figures this out. They get accosted by a guy in
Speaker 1: the lobby who I am like, who is? This Guy's like, hey,
Speaker 1: can I guys talk to you for a second time.
Speaker 1: Here's my conspiracy theory. I really truly believe this is
Speaker 1: like a cameo of David's ass kind of looks like
Speaker 1: him with a kind of like a New Yorky, New
Speaker 1: Yorky kind of accent, And why does he again, why
Speaker 1: is an American here with a with a speaking role?
Speaker 1: And bock slam this guy? Why does he have a line?
Speaker 1: He gets choke slammed. And then we go back to
Speaker 1: Bell Reeve where Waller through John peace Maker John is
Speaker 1: basically apologizing to the bride, saying, listen, you were black
Speaker 1: fucked up. Clearly he's not the guy for the job.
Speaker 1: This you you are the person for the job. We're
Speaker 1: gonna give you your own team, and you can have
Speaker 1: this wing of the prison to like run your whole
Speaker 1: little operation out of. And so the here are your
Speaker 1: new commandos. The new commandos are are existing and surviving
Speaker 1: members Doctor Fosterhorson Weasel of course, plus g I robot
Speaker 1: in a brand new body that Nosferata, Yes, the vampire yeap,
Speaker 1: callous energy guy.
Speaker 2: He's an energy guy.
Speaker 3: Who's like also a resurrected mummy in the history of right,
Speaker 3: You're really getting some weird characters.
Speaker 2: Also, the callous version.
Speaker 3: That we get here is probably like from the Frankenstein
Speaker 3: Agent of Shade stuff which is from twenty eleven, which
Speaker 3: I think was a big influence on all of James
Speaker 3: Gunn's stuff. Also, Nosferata funny, she's a Superboy and a
Speaker 3: nineties Superboy edition. But funny thing I like about her
Speaker 3: is she was part of another project m Project Moreau,
Speaker 3: like the Island of Doctor Moreau, who is a guy
Speaker 3: just making like weird animal creatures and she's like a
Speaker 3: bat vampire.
Speaker 2: That's cool. I like the deep cut characters.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and finally everybody's favorite carnivorous human esque shark
Speaker 1: King Shark.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: Who is probably the more the most And James Gunn.
Speaker 3: Did confirm that it is the Nanaway from Suicide Squad
Speaker 3: that we already know.
Speaker 2: Okay, so it is kind of dumb cute.
Speaker 1: How is he back?
Speaker 2: How is he back? What did he do?
Speaker 3: He probably just ate a human, that's my guess, because
Speaker 3: the rest of them kind of, you know, they they
Speaker 3: like blackmailed their way out of it at the end
Speaker 3: of that movie. But yeah, he's back, and I love that.
Speaker 3: I love that cheeky guy.
Speaker 1: Let's go to a quick break and then we'll come
Speaker 1: back and let's talk about our thoughts on Creature Comanda.
Speaker 1: See we're back, Okay, Creature Commando season one. I think
Speaker 1: it was a very James gun way to start his reign, right,
Speaker 1: I think you get the you got the whole package here.
Speaker 1: You got the found fam like freaked found family. You
Speaker 1: got moments of you know, surprising like emotion, you got
Speaker 1: that devastating loss. You've got the monsters who are misunderstood.
Speaker 1: You got a lot of freaky sexual activities.
Speaker 3: And especially there was a lot of like, oh, this
Speaker 3: is a horny cartoon.
Speaker 1: It really was. I will start it off quite already.
Speaker 3: Like the best of James Gunn's stuff. For me, a
Speaker 3: lot of this series surprised me and got me excited,
Speaker 3: Like I loved seeing the kind of I thought the
Speaker 3: Weasel episode was such a big, kind of great proof
Speaker 3: of how James Gunn can be really thoughtful and unexpected
Speaker 3: and and be on the side of the little guy.
Speaker 3: And just like a lot of his stuff, there were
Speaker 3: some bits that didn't work for me or that I
Speaker 3: thought were a little I think that the finale. There's
Speaker 3: a great critic called Richard Nubi who works for the
Speaker 3: Hollywood Reporter, who I think is brilliant, and his response
Speaker 3: to the finale was essentially that he felt like it
Speaker 3: leaned a bit too much into the.
Speaker 2: Cruelty that guns sometimes goes for. And I would agree
Speaker 2: with that.
Speaker 3: I think like even there are a couple of moments
Speaker 3: where like, even the Princess, you know she is evil guy,
Speaker 3: she was gonna do this terrible thing. Though, Also, are
Speaker 3: we now in a Minority Report scenario where we're just
Speaker 3: killing people for.
Speaker 1: Well pre crime?
Speaker 3: Good point, because I feel like that's a whole issue
Speaker 3: that we're gonna have to deal with in the in
Speaker 3: the DC universe.
Speaker 1: Now, this show was it zigs and zags because it
Speaker 1: starts off, as we've said, it seemed like a very
Speaker 1: simple story, and then it got surprisingly deep, and then
Speaker 1: as we came down the stretch, it kind of zagged
Speaker 1: back to where I felt like we need, you know what,
Speaker 1: we needed like a thirty second scene in which Waller,
Speaker 1: who has been bamboozled throughout her entire appearance. She's just
Speaker 1: getting bamboozled multiple appearances into DC, whether it's live action
Speaker 1: or animated, She's been bamboozled all the time. It's unclear
Speaker 1: if she is good at her job. Uh, but we
Speaker 1: needed a scene where she goes, Okay, I know I
Speaker 1: told you to kill her, but then I called it off,
Speaker 1: and now you did it with after I told you
Speaker 1: not to do it. But you know what we figured
Speaker 1: it out and it's okay, and also like you.
Speaker 2: Were the right like and that proves that you are
Speaker 2: the right person for this. It was a twenty nine
Speaker 2: minute episode. I love that they.
Speaker 3: Can do this kind of this short like animated storytelling,
Speaker 3: but I think the finale we could have had an
Speaker 3: extra five minutes where Walla's either getting like taken to
Speaker 3: task or we're just having because it goes from the
Speaker 3: Bride killing the princess. And then one of my moments
Speaker 3: I didn't like in this was like there's like a
Speaker 3: weirdly long like thirty seconds. It feels like like just
Speaker 3: shot of this like dead woman with like you know,
Speaker 3: blood coming out her face, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is a game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they gave you. They gave you. It's
Speaker 1: in slow mo, so you can.
Speaker 2: They were like they were like, do you hate women?
Speaker 2: You can? You can love looking at.
Speaker 3: This, Like but then I thought it was gonna set
Speaker 3: up the Bride and Weasel and Doctor Phosphorus almost like
Speaker 3: on their own and season two they're gonna have to yeah,
Speaker 3: like then, but they just go back to Bell Reeve
Speaker 3: and it's like, yeah, you guys were right, And I'm
Speaker 3: like guys.
Speaker 1: Similarly, I mean it just felt like, you know, the
Speaker 1: sons of them, Scara, we never really, we never really
Speaker 1: tied a knock in that thread, Like there are a
Speaker 1: lot of things.
Speaker 3: Okay, so do you think the but do you do
Speaker 3: you think the leftover threads are so that they can
Speaker 3: do something with it later in the DCU.
Speaker 1: I think probably, But it just felt too dangling to me,
Speaker 1: And I felt like rather than a post credit scene
Speaker 1: in which Eric is basically doing the thing that we
Speaker 1: saw him do a couple episodes's earlier, where he's about
Speaker 1: to clearly is being nursed back to life by yet
Speaker 1: another woman, old woman who's taken kindness on him and
Speaker 1: being generous towards him, and clearly he's going to kill her.
Speaker 1: Like I thought, we could have maybe just set up
Speaker 1: some of these threads that were not tied in. I
Speaker 1: also have one. Here's my one. We've talked about some
Speaker 1: of our criticisms thus far of the show. Here's mine
Speaker 1: is while Aer too incompetent, I think like she she's
Speaker 1: supposed to be like this ruthless, efficient mastermind who is
Speaker 1: much like Batman always kind of got the angles covered
Speaker 1: and has secret angles that she doesn't tell her people
Speaker 1: about as backup plans to various things should things go wrong,
Speaker 1: and here, much like in Suicide Squad, she just kind
Speaker 1: of is like not in control, not about stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and had no idea what was going on for basically
Speaker 1: the entire mission literally, And I'm not sure, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I it's not like.
Speaker 2: She doesn't have checks and balances in place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes me feel as if we're not getting
Speaker 1: the most out of Amanda Waller.
Speaker 3: I agree, especially yet, especially because you know she was
Speaker 3: right about the original plan and that could have just
Speaker 3: been it, but we get that in built almost like
Speaker 3: it's like how Apple builds in obsolescence to your phone,
Speaker 3: so you have to always get the new one because
Speaker 3: it's gonna break or become out of date. It's like
Speaker 3: that had to be built in that. Once again, Walla
Speaker 3: was not on top of things that she was not
Speaker 3: the right in the right, that she did not know.
Speaker 3: So I'm interested to see that, especially because recently in
Speaker 3: the comics she has been like a top tier kind
Speaker 3: of villain involved with a lot of really cosmic level shenanigans.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think we're gonna need to.
Speaker 3: See Waller either. Is she gonna be the foil of
Speaker 3: James Gunn's DCU or are we sort of even clearing
Speaker 3: the path for a different villain. I do think that
Speaker 3: James likes obviously John Economus, we have other members of
Speaker 3: that team, and he kind of likes the underdogs, so
Speaker 3: maybe that's why. But yeah, I'm I still like this team.
Speaker 3: I'm interested to see what comes next. I like this
Speaker 3: potential new iteration of the team. I hate I hate Eric.
Speaker 3: I'm like, get rid of him, we don't need him. Who. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I do think I do think that overall, I do
Speaker 3: think that doctor Phosphorus was my MVP of just like
Speaker 3: a character I actually want to hang out with and
Speaker 3: like who I think is funny and spend more time with.
Speaker 3: Who do you think is the most likely character aside
Speaker 3: from ones that we know, like from the main Project
Speaker 3: M team? Is it gonna be the Bride? Dr Fossphorus
Speaker 3: Nosferata like Carlos. How much do you think those weird
Speaker 3: characters have a chance of translating to the live action world.
Speaker 1: Well, we've already seen Weasel. I feel like we could
Speaker 1: see Phosphorus in the Bride.
Speaker 2: That's it does.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's Unit doesn't feel like one hundred
Speaker 3: percent likely, But I would say in dra Varma, who
Speaker 3: voiced the bride, did a fantastic job.
Speaker 2: I love her.
Speaker 3: She's so great and you can immediately see her in
Speaker 3: that role like they designed it to look like she
Speaker 3: could she could play it.
Speaker 2: I would love to see them bring Doctor Posphorus to
Speaker 2: life because I think his design is so cool in
Speaker 2: this show.
Speaker 3: How do you feel going into the summer of Superman
Speaker 3: the year of Superman?
Speaker 2: Do you do you think this was a good setup?
Speaker 3: Do you think it teed it off?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: I think it was. You know how like when you
Speaker 1: get into a pool or a hot tub, you want
Speaker 1: to kind of dip a toe and get acclimated. To me,
Speaker 1: this felt like Jay Gun getting acclimated, like doing something
Speaker 1: in his wheelhouse to kind of set the tone and
Speaker 1: get comfortable creating something in this world, start populating it
Speaker 1: with weirdos who could come in and out, And I
Speaker 1: think that's gonna be one of the hallmarks of his
Speaker 1: run is You're gonna this is gonna be a fully
Speaker 1: fleshed out DC world in which all these freaks exist
Speaker 1: and you're going to see them in the background of
Speaker 1: things coming in and out of different scenes, being a
Speaker 1: part of different stories. So I think it was a
Speaker 1: good I think it was a good start, and I'm
Speaker 1: left feeling like I am tremendously excited for Superman. I
Speaker 1: think I'm almost convinced that it's going to be a
Speaker 1: massively huge movie and a success. That said, I'm also
Speaker 1: left feeling like, gosh, there's a lot. There's a lot
Speaker 1: riding on. Yeah, there's a lot of riding.
Speaker 3: And I think what I love the most about this
Speaker 3: if i'm if I'm looking at it from like always
Speaker 3: like X three vision optimism that we try and channel.
Speaker 3: I love that in dipping the toe and trying to
Speaker 3: acclimate himself to this kind of gods and monster's slate,
Speaker 3: this scope of this huge world.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I do like the fact.
Speaker 3: That James Gunn just did the most James Gunn thing
Speaker 3: ever and was like, Hey, I'm still doing this. He
Speaker 3: was like, I'm still gonna do this, and then I'm
Speaker 3: gonna try and do a Superman that's gonna break your heart.
Speaker 2: And then I'm gonna let James Mangold do a swamp
Speaker 2: thing that's going to terrify you. So I think you
Speaker 2: made a great point.
Speaker 3: I think this actually just adds to the law of
Speaker 3: the world, which we saw from the Superman trailer is
Speaker 3: going to be expansive and filled with all kinds of
Speaker 3: superheroic characters, and I think it's interesting and I personally
Speaker 3: Doctor Phosphorus the Bride. I would love to see them.
Speaker 3: And also the thing that I did like that I
Speaker 3: was unexpected.
Speaker 2: For me.
Speaker 3: I am the Suicide Squad's biggest supporter. I love that movie.
Speaker 3: I think it's the most radical thing James Gunn has done,
Speaker 3: you know, purpose or otherwise. I don't know if it
Speaker 3: was intentional or just because his influences were from like
Speaker 3: great seventies war movies, conspiracy movies. I love that film,
Speaker 3: and for me, it was a really nice surprise to
Speaker 3: know that so much of what occurred and the characters
Speaker 3: in there were cannon to this new world.
Speaker 2: And I do hope that we get Idrice.
Speaker 3: Elber back because I think that was a deeply underrated
Speaker 3: performance and I would love to see him in this
Speaker 3: kind of superhero filled world as that you know, Superman
Speaker 3: Assassin with his Kryptonite bullet.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think I'm excited for it.
Speaker 3: It wasn't don't I don't think the finale was as
Speaker 3: good as the best of the season.
Speaker 2: But I also think it was.
Speaker 3: A finale that was very in line with the rest
Speaker 3: of the show and James Gunns vibes, and it set
Speaker 3: up this new team, this new project for the season
Speaker 3: two that I believe has been already greenlit. And yeah,
Speaker 3: and that only leaves the most important question of all
Speaker 3: that Aaron Kaufman are super bridgy popped in here. Where
Speaker 3: does Nina place on the list of hottest fish people
Speaker 3: in Hollywood?
Speaker 1: Oh? Wow, I think she's pretty high up.
Speaker 2: They really went.
Speaker 1: I think she's up there. I think she's up there
Speaker 1: in the top three, along with Shape of Water fish.
Speaker 1: Where does George George Binks along with Jorjar Binks?
Speaker 2: Jason said, I am a Jarja binks lover. He said,
Speaker 2: that is a sexy man.
Speaker 1: He's a fit Man's up there.
Speaker 3: They definitely they took it to the next level because
Speaker 3: obviously you have someone like an ape Sapien, a creature
Speaker 3: from the Black Lago in Shape of Water obviously.
Speaker 2: I would say Shape of War ape Sapien.
Speaker 3: They are meant to be, you know, sexual, both male
Speaker 3: as much as we know. But Nina is like they
Speaker 3: gave her that nineties comic book Body all Right, and
Speaker 3: they they were like, do you want to have sex
Speaker 3: with creeks from the Black Lagoon?
Speaker 2: But you like boobs ay, so I'd say yeah, I
Speaker 2: would say, she's not that.
Speaker 3: But now I'm gonna have to do we need to
Speaker 3: do a whole spinoff episode about your jaw Joppinks opinions
Speaker 3: because I need to know more.
Speaker 1: Well. In the next few episodes of Extra Vision, we're
Speaker 1: giving some comic book rerecs for James Gunn's upcoming Superman movie,
Speaker 1: Get You Prepared for That and some of his lesser
Speaker 1: known characters and the Smash Hit. And we're going to
Speaker 1: be covering some of the lesser known characters from the
Speaker 1: Smash Hit video game, Marvel rivals Jeff Fans, Cloak and
Speaker 1: Dagger Fans, et cetera. Plus our Skeleton Crew finale reactions
Speaker 1: are coming this Friday. That's it for this episode. Thanks
Speaker 1: for listening by.
Speaker 2: X Ray.
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