WEBVTT - Creature Commandos 105, 106, and 107

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<v Speaker 1>Warning, Today's episode contained spoilers for season one episodes five

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<v Speaker 1>to sixty seven of Creature Commandos, so make sure you're

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<v Speaker 1>all caught up then come back.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Jason Gettepsi.

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<v Speaker 2>And I Brisday Night, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to x ray Vision of the podcast where

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<v Speaker 1>three episodes a week, every Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. Those

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<v Speaker 1>are usually the days.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes as another episodes two. Ought You're lucky?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>In today's episode, we are going to be recapping that

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<v Speaker 3>lost three episodes of Creature Commandos episodes five, episode six,

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<v Speaker 3>and then in the air log, we're going to be

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<v Speaker 3>jumping into a Binali recap and reaction to Creature Commandos

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<v Speaker 3>season one.

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<v Speaker 1>But first let's begin with episode five, The Iron Pot.

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<v Speaker 1>Creature Commandos up. Now, okay, Creature Commandos. Checking that that

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<v Speaker 1>that that episodes five command They really are episodes five

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<v Speaker 1>and six of the uh always good be getting increasingly

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<v Speaker 1>better and even more intriguing Creature Commando's program. Let's start

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<v Speaker 1>with episode five, The Iron Pot. This is the Eric episode,

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<v Speaker 1>and yes, I will say thank you for making Eric

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<v Speaker 1>continuously terrible.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I'm actually like I have frast with that

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<v Speaker 3>commitment to recognizing him as like the terrible undead insel

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<v Speaker 3>that he is, Like, he's an.

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<v Speaker 2>Awful, awful person, awful parts of many people put together

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<v Speaker 2>into a person.

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<v Speaker 3>And Yeah, I'm actually really impressed because I Frankenstein is

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<v Speaker 3>usually frank sized monster is usually one of the mainstay

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<v Speaker 3>characters of Creature Commandos. You have a big actor like

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<v Speaker 3>David Harber. But I have been like continuously impressed by

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<v Speaker 3>how realistic there being about this satur this guy have created.

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<v Speaker 2>He's bad. He's a bad guy.

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<v Speaker 1>So we open in the eighteen thirties. This is right

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<v Speaker 1>after Eric murdered doctor Frankenstein after catching him in flagrante

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<v Speaker 1>with the bride. You know that he's set on fire

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<v Speaker 1>by the bride and then he falls out of the

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<v Speaker 1>castle and then he washes up in a river where

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<v Speaker 1>he's found by an old medicine woman. This hearkening very

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<v Speaker 1>closely back to the original.

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<v Speaker 3>Frank's definitely taking a lot of notes here, but just

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<v Speaker 3>adding a little bit more of the bride into that origin.

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<v Speaker 1>This old woman, Bogdana, she is she can't she's blind,

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<v Speaker 1>but she has a wonderful, very cute dog, and she

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<v Speaker 1>nurses Eric back to health, and Eric tries very hard

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<v Speaker 1>to resist her charms all the time, and he's like

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<v Speaker 1>mean to her, but an increasingly like he's mean in

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<v Speaker 1>an increasingly familiar and warm way to her, like where

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<v Speaker 1>you can feel like he's warming up to her. That

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<v Speaker 1>is intercut with the present storyline in which Eric and

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<v Speaker 1>Flag are trying to figure out, like what's the deal

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<v Speaker 1>with the creature commando mission to go kill the princess?

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<v Speaker 1>So they go and they investigate McPherson, who is the

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<v Speaker 1>psychologist who came in and basically convinced Waller that okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to we have to listen to this prophecy

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<v Speaker 1>that the princess is going to take over the world

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<v Speaker 1>because YadA, YadA, YadA. So they investigate McPherson. They follow

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<v Speaker 1>her to her college. They watch her weirdly hit on

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<v Speaker 1>her students. Something seems very off here.

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<v Speaker 3>Very weird vibes not at all someone that you would

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<v Speaker 3>take advice from or listen to if you were Waller.

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<v Speaker 2>From what we see, very very strange.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, Flag calls like backed to Pekolistan and warns the

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<v Speaker 1>chief of the guards, like, hey, creature Karmanos are there

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<v Speaker 1>not to help, but they're probably gonna assassinate the princess.

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<v Speaker 1>Flag and Eric sneak into McPherson's home and just to

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<v Speaker 1>do more investigation and watch her because I think she's

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<v Speaker 1>being weird. Turns out she's.

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<v Speaker 4>Clayface because the real McPherson is dead and the post

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<v Speaker 4>that you have been the person you've been seeing is

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<v Speaker 4>fucking Clayface, which you know Alan Tudick is going to

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<v Speaker 4>be voicing him, which we can then assume that.

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<v Speaker 3>He will be playing Clayface in the live action Clayface

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<v Speaker 3>film that will be veteran by filmmaker Mike Flanagan. Very

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<v Speaker 3>excited about that going to be our horror apparently, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think Flannagan has the chops to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very interested in this great twist.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it is really always fun to see a

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<v Speaker 3>big character like this. I also have to say, like, honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>the way that James Gunn is bringing in these huge

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<v Speaker 3>characters and setting stuff up for the DCU is incredibly exciting,

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<v Speaker 3>and I agree actually feels impactful. And I think there's

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<v Speaker 3>a reason that this show feels like it keeps getting better,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's because it's a kind of mix of your

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<v Speaker 3>classic Saturday morning cartoon, getting loads of different characters, never

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<v Speaker 3>know who you know is going to show up, but

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<v Speaker 3>it has obviously this darker, more adult tone, and also

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<v Speaker 3>it has ramifications for the next year of cinema, or

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<v Speaker 3>at least it feels like, you know, as we've as

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<v Speaker 3>we felt as it felt like it feels like it could.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll have to wait.

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<v Speaker 3>But we are now in twenty twenty five, probably the

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<v Speaker 3>year of Superman, so it's going to be interesting to

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<v Speaker 3>see how these do play in and also kind of

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<v Speaker 3>great to see like an actually scary.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the animation of clay Face like the actual

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<v Speaker 1>So Eric can Flag end up in a tussle with

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<v Speaker 1>clay Face who Fox Flag up breaks his back Baines style.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, very good, like nightfull reference that he definitely just

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<v Speaker 3>like breaks his back like not looking good for him.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Eric gets basically swallowed by clay Face, but

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<v Speaker 1>does manage to plug his finger into an electrical socket,

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<v Speaker 1>shocking Clayface and I escape. Meanwhile, in the flashback plotline,

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<v Speaker 1>we see that Eric eventually kills bog Down strangles her

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<v Speaker 1>as her dog scratches on the door outside and then leaves,

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<v Speaker 1>letting you know, like, this guy is a huge piece

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<v Speaker 1>of fucking, terrible piece of shit and that sets us

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<v Speaker 1>up for the next What did you think about the episode?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, again, first of all, from just a story perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>really cool twitch that I just when you think you

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<v Speaker 1>have a handle on what this show is, it flips

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<v Speaker 1>and I love the layers to it. Like as we

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<v Speaker 1>were saying when we were first last time we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this show, I think for episode three Cheers of

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<v Speaker 1>the ten Men, or episode four, maybe the Weasel Bottle,

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<v Speaker 1>it's oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that episode was hot breaking, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>As we were saying when we were last covering the show,

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<v Speaker 1>it first seemed like it was going to be this

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<v Speaker 1>very straightforward suicide squad type edgy into some far flung

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<v Speaker 1>part of the DCEU to do something, some secret mission

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<v Speaker 1>that's very deadly, and then it, you know, the stakes

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<v Speaker 1>then got a lot higher when it seemed like, hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to kill the Justice League along with Gorilla

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<v Speaker 1>Grod and like over the world. And now the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that that seems to be part of a larger plot

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<v Speaker 1>because you actually this is not very often a work

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<v Speaker 1>like a mastermind on his own exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a work for high a gig.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so this is very interesting now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and we get those like nods about how McPherson

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<v Speaker 3>knew a lot about Amazonian law, so like, is that.

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<v Speaker 2>Why he was sent there? Who is he sent by?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Was this another secret Waller kind of you know, she

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<v Speaker 3>has always a lot of backup plans, that.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a thing. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she loves to have like a you know, she's

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<v Speaker 2>like Batman.

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<v Speaker 3>She always has a plan to take down anyone that

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<v Speaker 3>she's working with. But I'm I'm very interested. I think

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<v Speaker 3>this was another great episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was like as good as Weasel, but I do still

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<v Speaker 3>think it was really good. I love that they have

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<v Speaker 3>not for all the monsters that they have made us

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<v Speaker 3>empathetic for. I love that Eric Frankenstein is not one

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<v Speaker 3>of them because he does not deserve it. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm definitely interested to see where it goes as

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<v Speaker 3>we head towards the final episode of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Next episode episode six, Pretel skelet This is the Doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Phosphorus episode.

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<v Speaker 2>We see this episode before the finale to.

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<v Speaker 1>Last episode or the finale, we see in a flashback

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<v Speaker 1>that once upon a time, like nuclear physicist Alexander Sartorius

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<v Speaker 1>gets some illicit funding from infamous crime boss Rupert Thorn

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<v Speaker 1>in order to you know, make a cure for cancer

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<v Speaker 1>using this special.

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<v Speaker 3>Idea that sounds like something more should be doing that

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<v Speaker 3>with that powers instead like turning people into dinosaurs, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing that and using this special like nuclear fusion process

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<v Speaker 1>that doctor Sartorius has been developing. However, alex realizes that

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<v Speaker 1>this is like a nuclear weapons program, actually an illicit

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear weapons program that Rupert is gonna be basically selling

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<v Speaker 1>nukes to like different countries.

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<v Speaker 2>Not good.

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<v Speaker 1>Not good, And upon discovering this, Thorn kills doctor Sartorius's

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<v Speaker 1>family and wife, fridges them, and then frames him for

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<v Speaker 1>the crime and also locks alex just for his own

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<v Speaker 1>pleasure in his own like nuclear fusion engine to like

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<v Speaker 1>watch him get killed by that love.

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<v Speaker 3>To be evil gangster in Gotham, Like you always have

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<v Speaker 3>to take it the next level as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy, Yeah, you can't.

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<v Speaker 3>Just kill him, but that would also mean that he

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't get his powers. And this actually makes a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of sense that we're kind of seeing this origin in

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<v Speaker 3>that more Gotham space with someone like Rupert Thorn, because

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<v Speaker 3>Posphorus is originally like a Batman bag guy. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>also why we will get that Batman moment that we'll

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<v Speaker 3>talk about soon.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is of course how doctor Phosphus becomes Doctor Phosphorus.

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<v Speaker 1>Now in the present there's a very exciting capstone to

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<v Speaker 1>that flashback storyline. But in the in the present, Eric

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sends flags of the flag is all fucked up,

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<v Speaker 1>his back is broken. He goes his back is.

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<v Speaker 3>Broken, as we thought he got broken. Shouldn't have been

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<v Speaker 3>a widow.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course he Eric wants to get to Pakolastan

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<v Speaker 1>to get back together with the bride, so he hijacks

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<v Speaker 1>a private jet. Also, Phosphorus and the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>Creature commandos have been kind of separated after the tussle

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<v Speaker 1>with the guards, and they're kind of making their way,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, through different parts of the city and the

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<v Speaker 1>surrounding landscape to safety and then eventually towards the palace

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<v Speaker 1>where I guess they're going to kill the princess.

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta say, how annoying must it be to be

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<v Speaker 3>like doctor Phosphorus or one of like the like Sea Tier,

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<v Speaker 3>like creature commandos who are just not really involved in

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<v Speaker 3>any of this drama, like The Bride's drama, Grillo's drama.

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<v Speaker 3>Like how annoying must it be to be the ones

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<v Speaker 3>who are just like kind of left in the wake

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<v Speaker 3>of all these interpersonal like shenanigans that these guys are

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<v Speaker 3>getting into.

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<v Speaker 1>It must be quite boring and annoying, I would be calling, ehha.

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<v Speaker 1>So Phosphorus is like just on the streets and he

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<v Speaker 1>encounters like this child who reminds him of his own son,

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<v Speaker 1>who's of course now past. Meanwhile, the Bride and Nina

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<v Speaker 1>are hiding in a local brothel where of course they

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<v Speaker 1>end up defending the workers there. And Weasel is like

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<v Speaker 1>out in the woods on the edge of the city

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<v Speaker 1>where he immediately becomes friendly with a pack of wolves

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<v Speaker 1>and it's very very cute. They play fetch and they

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<v Speaker 1>all sleep together in a little pack.

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<v Speaker 2>Very cute. I love Weasel.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a Justice for Weasel fan also as well, interestingly,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like James Gunn is really eager to showcase

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<v Speaker 3>just how normal meta humans are in his DCU, because

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<v Speaker 3>when Nina and the Bride are protecting the girls at

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<v Speaker 3>the brothel. They're protecting them from these, like I think

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<v Speaker 3>new characters called the Craik Brothers, and they're meta humans.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not just like shitty guys. They're like meta humans

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<v Speaker 3>with electual powers. Like, I feel like a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>this is building the world of this Superman inspired DCU

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<v Speaker 3>that we're seeing, where there are already meta humans everywhere. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Like this is completely different than anything we've kind of

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<v Speaker 3>seen before, which I thought was very interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. I like that they're going this route.

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<v Speaker 1>So everybody eventually comes together in a field like heading

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<v Speaker 1>towards the palace, and they are reunited, and we would

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<v Speaker 1>imagine in episode seven and this is all going to

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<v Speaker 1>come to a head, We're gonna find out what happens. Yeah, yeah, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I guess this is all a setup in

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<v Speaker 1>order to get Waller to assassinate the princess. But the

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<v Speaker 1>question is, oh, and we should say the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the Yeah, the end of the Doctor Phosphorus flashback is

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<v Speaker 1>so now is Doctor Phosphorus? Alex takes over Rupert's all

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<v Speaker 1>of his rackets. He becomes basically like a crime lord,

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<v Speaker 1>and this brings him into direct conflict. One night at

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<v Speaker 1>the club that he now.

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<v Speaker 3>Owns, which is called the ice Lounge, so it feels

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<v Speaker 3>like a future Iceberg Lounge.

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<v Speaker 1>Potentially, this brings him into direct conflict with who else

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<v Speaker 1>Batman A very chunky, a very sick Batman.

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<v Speaker 3>Looking very it's very like what if Frank Miller's Dark

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<v Speaker 3>Knight was in the opening of Batman the Animated series.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously we did get an episode, a dream like episode

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<v Speaker 3>where we got the Frank Miller's Dark Knight return style

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<v Speaker 3>story in Batman Animated series.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say he looks very chonky.

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<v Speaker 3>As super producer Joelle told me, she was like, that

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<v Speaker 3>does not look like Battinson and I was like, correct,

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<v Speaker 3>I too had that fear.

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<v Speaker 2>But James Gunn did do a great tweet.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to say his social media presence during this

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<v Speaker 3>rollout to PCU it is something to be studied, the

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<v Speaker 3>way that he works alongside the DC Studios and Comics

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<v Speaker 3>social media teams who are absolutely working their ass off

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<v Speaker 3>and really creating something exciting. Here he posted, don't worry

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<v Speaker 3>too much about the silhouette, like this is just the

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<v Speaker 3>cool silhouette that we use.

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<v Speaker 1>Just showing that he understands that he knows he's like

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<v Speaker 1>looks there's a big, chonky Batman.

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<v Speaker 3>But that doesn't mean that it's It doesn't mean it

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<v Speaker 3>is or isn't the same Batman. You know, it's just

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<v Speaker 3>in that moment that is how imposing Batman looks to

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<v Speaker 3>Dr Posphorus. And obviously the reason that James gun knew

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<v Speaker 3>he had to do that tweet is this is the

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<v Speaker 3>first time that we have seen Batman in the DCU huge, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, a really huge moment. Now, who if indeed this

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<v Speaker 1>is a scheme to get basically US forces to assassinate

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<v Speaker 1>the member of like the royal member, ruling member of

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<v Speaker 1>Pecola Stan Who's behind this?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>And also like, is Circe's vision true because now was

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<v Speaker 3>clay Face always the professor, always the professor?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Was the Professor taken out?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm very interested to see where that goes, because.

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<v Speaker 2>It does seem like the notion of the Circes visual

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<v Speaker 2>We got.

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<v Speaker 3>That incredible cameo filled kind of future where all the

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<v Speaker 3>Justice League died, where we could technically see Batman there,

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<v Speaker 3>but like in a more he's dead skeleton kind of way,

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm very interested to see is this gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>kind of a Skeleton Crew thing where actually all of

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<v Speaker 3>this could just be a training game because.

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<v Speaker 2>Walla wanted to kill the.

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<v Speaker 3>Princess and destabilize Polakistan and train her task for sem

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<v Speaker 3>maybe she is that evil. It could basically just be

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<v Speaker 3>a little closed circle, which I think is always effective

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<v Speaker 3>if you're not sure where you're going next. But James Gunn,

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<v Speaker 3>it feels like everything he does right now has a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of intention, and he's talked about how he essentially

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<v Speaker 3>greenlit his own show with this one because this is

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<v Speaker 3>what he wanted to do. So I'm very excited to

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<v Speaker 3>see what comes next with the finale, and also how

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<v Speaker 3>much impact and how many loose ends are left after

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<v Speaker 3>what is clearly going to be I think like a

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<v Speaker 3>very bloody, gory battle. Let's see where we're left and

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<v Speaker 3>who survives. I I think Weasel, Doc Posphorus, the Bride Nina.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's our.

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<v Speaker 3>Core for we see them do the like slow motion

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<v Speaker 3>type walk, I would hope.

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<v Speaker 2>I do feel like with Weazel.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he is played by Sean Gunn, James's brother,

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<v Speaker 3>so hopefully he's not gonna kill him. But I do

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<v Speaker 3>feel like with all the softness and sweetness they've been

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<v Speaker 3>building into him and he's misunderstood past. That would be

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<v Speaker 3>a heartbreaking death, But I think I would hope that

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<v Speaker 3>Eric will be the one who dies. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if we're going to see Rick Flagg Senia come back

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<v Speaker 3>in any way, seeing as he has a you know,

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<v Speaker 3>broken back. But it's the DCU, it's comic books. Anything

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<v Speaker 3>can happen. Uh, yeah, very interesting. What is your biggest

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<v Speaker 3>prediction for the finale?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I think that there we're missing a

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<v Speaker 1>It's waller, you know, so it and it's so it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like there's a betrayal. It feels like there is

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<v Speaker 1>a member of the squad maybe mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 2>She usually has like a secret inside. I'd kind of

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<v Speaker 2>fail safe.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is working both sides perhaps, And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about doctor Phosphorus, he is a villain. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a crime boss. He was probably the most successful of

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<v Speaker 1>the Creature Commandos in terms of just being a metahuman

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, putting his powers to use for evil.

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<v Speaker 1>And it does leave me wondering like, is he or

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<v Speaker 1>another member of the Squad more in the know than

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<v Speaker 1>they appear to be, Whether it's as part of this

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<v Speaker 1>scheme to kill the princess, either for the right reasons

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<v Speaker 1>or the wrong reasons. Like it feels like there's something there,

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<v Speaker 1>that there's somebody working both sides, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>who it is yet, so that would be my prediction,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who is working both sides.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that you're definitely onto it. And we'll talk

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<v Speaker 3>about it in alogue, which is coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>And where that episode seven Creature Commandos. The finale a

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<v Speaker 1>very funny monster. We open with a flashback the Infantnina

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<v Speaker 1>is born. She has a very severe birth defects in

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<v Speaker 1>which her lungs are apparently on the outside of her body,

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<v Speaker 1>which by the way, is a real.

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<v Speaker 2>Real thing. Just want to say thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew a kid who was born with all of

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<v Speaker 3>his organs on the outside of his body, and guess what,

0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:52.040
<v Speaker 3>the incredible NHS and medical geniuses were able to help

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<v Speaker 3>him live a fulfilling and healthy life. So I just

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<v Speaker 3>want to say, you do not have to turn someone

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<v Speaker 3>into the creature from the Black Kragoon they born this way.

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<v Speaker 3>I always think disability and monsters, we need to be

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit more thoughtful, guys, a little bit more thoughtful.

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<v Speaker 3>She could have just been born with girls. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>she's born with the lungs on the outside, and luckily

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<v Speaker 3>she has a very lovely dad who just cares for

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<v Speaker 3>us so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Her father is Professor Mazerski, is a extremely minor DC character.

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<v Speaker 1>He dedicates his life to designing solutions to Nina's maladies

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<v Speaker 1>and to eventually find a cure. Rosie, do you have

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<v Speaker 1>anything to tell us about Professor?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course I do, Of course I do. Of course

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<v Speaker 2>I do.

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<v Speaker 3>His first appearance, now this is great, appeared the first

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<v Speaker 3>same year I was born, nineteen eighty eight, in a

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<v Speaker 3>book that almost certainly no one has ever heard of

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<v Speaker 3>called Young All Stars Issue twelve, not even the first

0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:55.080
<v Speaker 3>Young He was issue twelve. But he is in the

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<v Speaker 3>context of the comics, he is like a biochemist who

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<v Speaker 3>works for the United States during the forties and World

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<v Speaker 3>War two, and he and he was one of the

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<v Speaker 3>original people behind Project M in that law and he

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<v Speaker 3>actually worked in like a kind of underwater like classic

0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:25.440
<v Speaker 3>evil sort of like almost like a classic evil villains lare.

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<v Speaker 3>And he would give people almost like power Broker. He

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<v Speaker 3>would actually be able to give people super like turn

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<v Speaker 3>people into super soldiers, sort of Captain America style usually

0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:41.399
<v Speaker 3>what they would call mutants, and eventually that would become

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<v Speaker 3>the creature commandos. But in that version he is not

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<v Speaker 3>like the father to to Nina. That is a that

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<v Speaker 3>is a new and new part. But yeah, very interesting

0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:52.880
<v Speaker 3>that that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>We returned to the present Ba's to Pacola Stan where

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<v Speaker 1>Eric creation of doctor frankenste is just chewing his zuber

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<v Speaker 1>driver's ear off, not saying the worst actually but figuratively basically, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just like continuing to like obsess about the bride and

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<v Speaker 1>how you know she doesn't that doesn't that overreaction kind

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<v Speaker 1>of show that actually she does like love him, and like.

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<v Speaker 3>Also like they're gonna make beautiful female friendly pornos together.

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<v Speaker 2>She was created for him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be like how else could you get? And

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<v Speaker 1>then clearly the the uber driver is terrified.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, he's like crying, his nose is running.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really good at you, very funny.

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<v Speaker 1>We arrive at the palace where the guards are on

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<v Speaker 1>higher alert, but it doesn't matter because the commando's basically

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<v Speaker 1>just would climbing through the window and Eric.

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<v Speaker 4>I just have to say, climb up the window.

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<v Speaker 3>Has such bad security? Come on, worst possible security like

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<v Speaker 3>just bad.

0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Bad get some ad t put some like motion sensors

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<v Speaker 1>on the ring doorbell.

0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:11.680
<v Speaker 2>Like all these guys, all these.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys have the craziest, sickest anime armor, but like they

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<v Speaker 3>are just like chilling looking hats and doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Their hair or something. I don't know.

0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:23.160
<v Speaker 3>They need to they need to figure out anyway.

0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:27.439
<v Speaker 1>Eric pulls up just in time to see his beloved

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<v Speaker 1>the bride, like just bludgeoning the guard whose job it

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<v Speaker 1>was to guard the window, just bludgeoning him to death. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Nina meanwhile, has concerns where the commanders climbed in was

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<v Speaker 1>like a security room like in one of the towers.

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<v Speaker 1>So they have like all these screens that show them

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<v Speaker 1>like what's going on in the castle. And she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you sure that killing the princess is like the

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<v Speaker 1>right thing to do? Doc Phosphorus, who I have increasingly

0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:56.200
<v Speaker 1>been like what, I think.

0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:59.000
<v Speaker 3>He's my MVP of the show, just like a personal

0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:02.719
<v Speaker 3>fun on the MVP because like I like how just

0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:05.800
<v Speaker 3>like he is so resigned and he's got such a fun,

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:09.800
<v Speaker 3>dead pan delivery, and he is kind of the only

0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:12.480
<v Speaker 3>one who I feel like hasn't got caught up in

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<v Speaker 3>the emotional Shenanigans of the creatures.

0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:20.760
<v Speaker 1>He's just like, yeah, but even if even if it's

0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:25.160
<v Speaker 1>a mistake, who fucking cares. It's just just that she's

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:29.280
<v Speaker 1>just there's billions of them. It's not that deal. The

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:33.399
<v Speaker 1>bride who by now is it's never been discussed, but

0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:36.280
<v Speaker 1>is clearly like the leader of the team is like, Nina,

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<v Speaker 1>gets your fucking head in the game.

0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:40.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it's kind of transitioned to that place.

0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's like, Nina, get your head in the game,

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:46.119
<v Speaker 1>like we have to do this to save the world.

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Like let's go, like get like tie your shoelaces and

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<v Speaker 1>let's go. Meanwhile, Eric is climbing the wall where he

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<v Speaker 1>saw the Bride in the window and he's trying to

0:25:55.640 --> 0:25:55.919
<v Speaker 1>get a.

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<v Speaker 3>Giant Frankenstein monster is climbing the wall and like, no,

0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:00.520
<v Speaker 3>he stopped.

0:26:00.600 --> 0:26:02.200
<v Speaker 2>No red alert.

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:04.800
<v Speaker 3>It's not like a booby trap because he's just literally

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<v Speaker 3>gripping on those bricks when he's climbing up the wall,

0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 3>like one of them doesn't fall out, Like there's no

0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:12.920
<v Speaker 3>little kind of explosions that No, they just like just

0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:13.680
<v Speaker 3>let him do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like if you are planning to destroy the world,

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<v Speaker 3>your security should be better.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotta gotta amp it up, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing is like they're in this security room

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<v Speaker 1>where the guards were ostensibly like defending the castle, and

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:32.400
<v Speaker 1>there's like four screens. How big this castle.

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<v Speaker 5>Is so huge, it's like there's a lake inside of it,

0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 5>like it's yeah, and they've got like four like regular

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<v Speaker 5>twenty three inch like LCD screens with just like four

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<v Speaker 5>camera angles and that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all we're covering.

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<v Speaker 3>All the cameras are just like focused on exactly what

0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:50.679
<v Speaker 3>the guards are up to.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, guys, come on, like what is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>And they have nothing?

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing on the way or just.

0:26:57.280 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 2>Why wide open?

0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:01.080
<v Speaker 3>I need to they need to call in like Brian

0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:03.200
<v Speaker 3>Tafa Like they're like he's.

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Like Bob Rescue. He's like fortress rescue. You guys have

0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 2>never ever, ever.

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Ever ever seen a fortress this easy to break into?

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Like what is this?

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:14.159
<v Speaker 1>What's this? Like?

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:17.160
<v Speaker 6>You need to get no staff, I'm I'm I'm firing

0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:20.800
<v Speaker 6>the head of security. He's just standing around, okay, doing karaoke,

0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:25.360
<v Speaker 6>Like you know, something needs to happen because it's it's.

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Not going well for them. And she's gonna learn that.

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Eric climbs through the window, just as the commandos who

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:36.720
<v Speaker 1>were like rerunning tape on the on the security system

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:43.680
<v Speaker 1>are puzzling over a still from a recently recorded a

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:46.639
<v Speaker 1>security tape that shows that the princess is clearly meeting

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:50.199
<v Speaker 1>with someone who is a Meti human and is clearly clayface,

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:54.359
<v Speaker 1>although you can't see it, faith, but the body tells

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 1>you that it's clay Face. The bride immediately magdumps her

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:02.439
<v Speaker 1>entire like pistol to Eric's chest. He falls out the window,

0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 1>and she jumps down, finishes him off, and uh, you know,

0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:12.400
<v Speaker 1>calls him a stalker, which was very cathartic. And yeah,

0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:16.200
<v Speaker 1>and then the and then doctor Phosphorus makes some sort

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 1>of quip and she says, can it ghost?

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:23.800
<v Speaker 3>I gotta I golla a chuckle from that one?

0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:26.680
<v Speaker 1>That was really Yeah, I got a great chuckle, classic

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:32.679
<v Speaker 1>DC Marvel kind of humor that often happens, you know what.

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about this as the quick as side

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:37.720
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about I forget which issue it is,

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 1>the classic early Claremont run. I think pre John Burne.

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 1>This is still cockra when uh, when the X Men

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 1>are out it's Christmas. They're out at Rockefeller Center watching

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 1>the ice skating, and in the background is clearly uh

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 1>like kids in Lowis Lane in a crowd, and also

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:08.520
<v Speaker 1>doctor Doom can like be seen in the background ice skating,

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 1>like just having a good time on the ice of

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Rock and Feller Center. Anyway, I love stuff like that.

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:15.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the really really fun stuff.

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:21.560
<v Speaker 3>And I think James Gunn has rightfully earned his kind.

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 2>Of with his foot in both worlds.

0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:28.120
<v Speaker 3>He really is good at kind of playing those those lanes.

0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:30.200
<v Speaker 3>And also as well, there was a time when that

0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 3>was not the case, Like we were not in a

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 3>world where those two would feel comfortable doing that. But

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 3>we add in the eternels they mentioned Batman, like these

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 3>these lines are getting blood and if the corporate conglomerates

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:45.479
<v Speaker 3>get what they want, they'll probably all be owned by

0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 3>the same company in like five years anyway, But for now, hilarious.

0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 3>I love that ghostwriter equip great writing.

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 1>We go to another flashback. It's maybe you know, less

0:29:57.400 --> 0:30:00.840
<v Speaker 1>than a year since near his birth from Massourski has

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 1>created a kind of lung vest for her, but his

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 1>wife is upset and thinks they should have let Nina

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 1>very and like.

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Iron lung again.

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:15.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you didn't need to do something like that, those

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 3>very specific ways that you do this. But yeah, the

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 3>wife sucks like I'm like this is crazy, Like don't

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 3>just let at least marriage just killing.

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 1>She's like, I don't want to raise this child that

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm out. We go back to the present. The commandos

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 1>discover where the princess is. She's over in this giant

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 1>forest that's like inside the walls, getting ready to take

0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 1>her like a daily energizing swim. They commandos sneak over

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 1>and begin the kind of long process of melting through

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:51.600
<v Speaker 1>a wall so they can get to this lake and

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 1>feel like.

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:54.400
<v Speaker 3>They should have got some bricks that couldn't be melted.

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, just like little guys.

0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Another flashback, Nina is now a todd her she's struggling

0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>a little more with the with a very heavy vest.

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:07.200
<v Speaker 1>And this is where the professor decides, you know what,

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna turn my daughter into it.

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I'm gonna get her into a fish pot.

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Guys, are there easier things? Are there other things?

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Any just turn her into a fish? He's why did

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:23.200
<v Speaker 2>I just turn be real?

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna be real as much as I was cheering

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 3>him on earlier, and I do love that he just

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 3>really wanted to save his door.

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 2>I think the fish. I think he always had this

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 2>fish planting up his sleeve. I think he was trying to.

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 3>Make a fish girl, and he was like perfect timing

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 3>time to make a fish babe.

0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Completely, you don't just like jump immediately to what if

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I just make her exactly?

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 2>You would have.

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Tried something more, much more uh normal and within the

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 1>realms of of regular modern surgical technology. Anyway, Uh it works.

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 1>She's beginning is breathing underwater. We go to the present,

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:06.719
<v Speaker 1>the princess is swimming, she's or going to swim, and Sergey,

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:08.960
<v Speaker 1>head of guards, is like, is this a really good idea?

0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Like there's like a super villain team that's here to

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:14.960
<v Speaker 1>kill you maybe, and she's like, shut up, I'm doing it.

0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 1>So she goes up and she's about to jump off

0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 1>into the lake just as the commandos come through the wall.

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 1>They see her preparing to jump in, and Weasel is

0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 1>freaking out because he's like, well that's the nice lady

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 1>that like played fetch with me for several hours, Like

0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>do we really have to do that? We really have

0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 1>to kill her, and so there's this conflict within the team.

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 1>We go to another flashback. The professor is now bringing

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Nina to a private school. She's a teenager. Teenage. Nina

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:46.240
<v Speaker 1>is brilliant, she speaks for languages, She's like a chess master,

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:49.760
<v Speaker 1>She's this and that, Like she's like the dream student.

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 3>But they're obviously like your fish go the teachers, the students.

0:32:56.480 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 1>The students are to our kid style like they're the absence,

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:06.000
<v Speaker 1>which is also funny because she's like really.

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 3>She's like really cool and also like ostessisibly obviously I'm

0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 3>talking about when she's not a teenager, but for like

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 3>a fish girl, she's also like conventionally attractive.

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 2>Like I feel like there's at least one month the

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:18.000
<v Speaker 2>fucker at that school who would have been like.

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Simple, there's gonna be at least one of least monsterfucker

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:21.640
<v Speaker 1>who's like, you know.

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 2>What, go banging board for a fish. Let's let's go,

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 2>let's se what happens.

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:33.239
<v Speaker 1>She's already moisture not an issue. He's ready to go. Yeah.

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 1>We go to Belle Reeve, where Flag is like beginning

0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 1>to regain consciousness. Uh. He tells Waller about Clayface impersonating

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Professor McPherson, who gave them the analysis that sirc Uh

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 1>wanted to kill the princess because the princess was gonna

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 1>destroy the world. And he says, well, that was clearly

0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 1>like a mess up because clay Face was impersonating the

0:33:59.840 --> 0:34:05.040
<v Speaker 1>the professor, the doctor. We go back to hold stand Okay,

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 1>the bride. They're trying to figure out the creature. Commanders

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 1>are like, how do we do this? And they're like, wait, water,

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:12.959
<v Speaker 1>holy shit, we have fish. Why don't you go over

0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:16.399
<v Speaker 1>there and swim under the water and just stab her

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:19.280
<v Speaker 1>up as she's like swimming and it'll be privata.

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 2>I just got to say, you couldn't, like any like couldn't.

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't think doctor Phosphorus is gonna go out if

0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 3>he goes in war, so he could have done it

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:29.439
<v Speaker 3>because he doesn't need to breathe. The bride, she's already dead.

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:31.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't think she needs to breathe. Yeah, I feel

0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:34.840
<v Speaker 3>like anyone else could have done Weasel, he could probably swim.

0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 2>He's not gonna do it. He likes that. But Nina,

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:39.319
<v Speaker 2>she's also not really a kill off. That's like what

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:39.880
<v Speaker 2>we've seen.

0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's kind of the issue. This is like,

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't think she is the tools.

0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:47.280
<v Speaker 2>She doesn't have the emotional chops.

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:51.839
<v Speaker 1>We go to the are one of our final flashbacks.

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Things have become so bad at school that Nina's like,

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:57.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm out. She writes her dad a note saying I'm

0:34:57.440 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 1>leaving the human world. That's it. I can't live like this.

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Professor Mazerski is distraught, and Nina enters the waters and

0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 1>the wetlands around Star City and lives there for a while.

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:12.280
<v Speaker 1>The Princess dives in the water she's going for a swim,

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 1>and you know, Nina is like, I don't want to

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:17.680
<v Speaker 1>do this. The rest of the Commander's talk her into it.

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 1>They're like, you can do it. You're a killer, You're

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:22.759
<v Speaker 1>a monster like us. It's awesome. And then Nina's like, yeah,

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:25.120
<v Speaker 1>but wait, hold on the bride. You said that I'm

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:27.520
<v Speaker 1>actually like human, like I'm not a monster. She's like,

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:29.359
<v Speaker 1>I was fucking lying because I'm a bitch. Like this

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:32.840
<v Speaker 1>is great, Like you're gonna be one of us. Last,

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:36.320
<v Speaker 1>we go to the final flashback, which is truly horrible.

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Nina has her existence has been discovered because somebody snapped

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:42.960
<v Speaker 1>a photo of her while she was gollum like eating

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 1>a fish by you know, delicious fish in the in

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:52.239
<v Speaker 1>the lakes around Star City, and this gets aired on

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 1>the news. Dad realizes that that's his daughter. He runs

0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 1>down there just as she's been captured and dragged out

0:35:58.040 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 1>of the water, and he wants to go over and

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:01.319
<v Speaker 1>talk to her, and he's going he runs up and

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:09.319
<v Speaker 1>he's like saying, you know, and then in what is

0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:15.239
<v Speaker 1>truly one of the worst police shoots fiction ever. This

0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:22.120
<v Speaker 1>is absolutely one of the most instant fictional police shoots ever.

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not putting it past any cop to do this, but.

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:27.600
<v Speaker 2>It's truly like, I don't make any sense.

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 1>This guy goes to jail, he shoots Dad in the back.

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:38.919
<v Speaker 1>He's pulling his daughter, yeah, and Nina watches him die,

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:40.359
<v Speaker 1>and everybody's just like.

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh well, and just like they just throw her in

0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 3>like a war prison that they had ready, and they're

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:49.040
<v Speaker 3>just like, is Nina like they just had her because

0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:50.280
<v Speaker 3>she was just swimming around.

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's not really she committed No, you

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:55.239
<v Speaker 2>killed by Dad.

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 3>It's not like you know, the rest of people in

0:36:57.719 --> 0:36:59.879
<v Speaker 3>bellp have usually like you know.

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 6>Blood doctor Foster is he tried to kill Superman with

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:04.240
<v Speaker 6>a kryptonide bullet.

0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:09.520
<v Speaker 3>Like, okay, Doctorosphorus done knows the bad Like, uh, Nina

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 3>just King Shark is been swimming hundreds of people.

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Silly, It's truly insane. Anyway, we go back to the President.

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:20.319
<v Speaker 1>Weasel can't do it. Weasel can't be part of this

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:24.120
<v Speaker 1>because he's the princesses was so nice. Dam He is

0:37:24.160 --> 0:37:26.359
<v Speaker 1>freaking out. Doctor Phosphorus tries to strain him, he bites.

0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Doctor Phosphorus dives into the water. Now the guards are alert.

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Now the Princess is alert, and she spots Nina, and

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 1>she takes the knife because again, Nina is not a

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:39.000
<v Speaker 1>trained assassin, a warrior at all, not even her knife.

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 1>It's the bride's knife. The Princess takes a knife and

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:44.840
<v Speaker 1>stabs the shit out of Nina, whose body floats to

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:47.920
<v Speaker 1>the surface. She's dead. At the same time, the Bride,

0:37:47.960 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 1>who is like shocked at all of this, uh, gets

0:37:51.440 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 1>a call from Waller who's like, hey, my bad, we

0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:59.239
<v Speaker 1>gotta call it off because clay Face and the whole

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:02.879
<v Speaker 1>thing and just put a pin in that and I'm

0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 1>so sorry. Let's pause it. Later at the Palace, the

0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Creature commandos surviving Creature commandos are shaken, except for Weasel,

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:13.480
<v Speaker 1>who's like getting pats on the head and belly scratches

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:15.919
<v Speaker 1>from the guards because he's got you know, a hero

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:18.600
<v Speaker 1>of fucking pacoles Dan. The bride goes to talk to

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:22.319
<v Speaker 1>the princess, ye who and the princess is like, don't worry, like,

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:24.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't hold it against you. Were just doing your job.

0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 1>I get it, like I was framed by Sirce and

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:30.879
<v Speaker 1>that's so crazy. The bride is like, no, actually, I've

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 1>been working this out in the couple of hours since

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I sent a wonderful woman to her death unprepared for

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:42.160
<v Speaker 1>which was awaiting her. But I've been thinking about it

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 1>since then, and I realized that hold on, we saw

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Clay face with you on the security tapes. You sent

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 1>a spy to spy on us at bel Rev. Like

0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I've figured all this out. I hears all the evidence

0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:57.560
<v Speaker 1>and basically like it was all true. You're planning to

0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:02.080
<v Speaker 1>invade the rest so the world, destroy America and kill

0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:05.560
<v Speaker 1>the Justice League, like I know it, and I'm going

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 1>to kill you. And I'm not going to kill you

0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:10.080
<v Speaker 1>because of national security, because it's my job. Because Amanda

0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Walla pays my bills. I'm going to do it to

0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:15.480
<v Speaker 1>a venge whose death is my fault and she's my

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:17.799
<v Speaker 1>pal and all this, and the princess goes for like

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 1>a hilarious, like ivory handled pirate fucking gun.

0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:28.760
<v Speaker 2>The guys like, don't you have like an emergency button?

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Shouldn't you just press that?

0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 1>There's something You've got all these guards in high tech

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:36.400
<v Speaker 1>security armor, and then in your top drawer is like

0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:41.080
<v Speaker 1>a fucking pistol from seventeen eighty five, like on a

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:44.880
<v Speaker 1>pirate sloop. Babe, what is anyway? She goes for the

0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 1>gun and the bride kills her. The bride puts a

0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:50.440
<v Speaker 1>bullet in her rain. She's dead. The commandos then are

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 1>making or like, let's get out of here before anybody

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:55.960
<v Speaker 1>figures this out. They get accosted by a guy in

0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:58.919
<v Speaker 1>the lobby who I am like, who is? This Guy's like, hey,

0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:00.920
<v Speaker 1>can I guys talk to you for a second time.

0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Here's my conspiracy theory. I really truly believe this is

0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:07.880
<v Speaker 1>like a cameo of David's ass kind of looks like

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:10.359
<v Speaker 1>him with a kind of like a New Yorky, New

0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:13.120
<v Speaker 1>Yorky kind of accent, And why does he again, why

0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:16.279
<v Speaker 1>is an American here with a with a speaking role?

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 1>And bock slam this guy? Why does he have a line?

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 1>He gets choke slammed. And then we go back to

0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Bell Reeve where Waller through John peace Maker John is

0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:32.120
<v Speaker 1>basically apologizing to the bride, saying, listen, you were black

0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:34.319
<v Speaker 1>fucked up. Clearly he's not the guy for the job.

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:37.359
<v Speaker 1>This you you are the person for the job. We're

0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:40.279
<v Speaker 1>gonna give you your own team, and you can have

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:43.439
<v Speaker 1>this wing of the prison to like run your whole

0:40:43.480 --> 0:40:47.600
<v Speaker 1>little operation out of. And so the here are your

0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:51.920
<v Speaker 1>new commandos. The new commandos are are existing and surviving

0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 1>members Doctor Fosterhorson Weasel of course, plus g I robot

0:40:56.760 --> 0:41:02.400
<v Speaker 1>in a brand new body that Nosferata, Yes, the vampire yeap,

0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 1>callous energy guy.

0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:07.240
<v Speaker 2>He's an energy guy.

0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:12.120
<v Speaker 3>Who's like also a resurrected mummy in the history of right,

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:14.960
<v Speaker 3>You're really getting some weird characters.

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:17.239
<v Speaker 2>Also, the callous version.

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:19.839
<v Speaker 3>That we get here is probably like from the Frankenstein

0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:23.000
<v Speaker 3>Agent of Shade stuff which is from twenty eleven, which

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:25.080
<v Speaker 3>I think was a big influence on all of James

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 3>Gunn's stuff. Also, Nosferata funny, she's a Superboy and a

0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:33.600
<v Speaker 3>nineties Superboy edition. But funny thing I like about her

0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:37.920
<v Speaker 3>is she was part of another project m Project Moreau,

0:41:38.280 --> 0:41:40.960
<v Speaker 3>like the Island of Doctor Moreau, who is a guy

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:43.920
<v Speaker 3>just making like weird animal creatures and she's like a

0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:45.040
<v Speaker 3>bat vampire.

0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:47.759
<v Speaker 2>That's cool. I like the deep cut characters.

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:55.360
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, and finally everybody's favorite carnivorous human esque shark

0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:56.760
<v Speaker 1>King Shark.

0:41:56.840 --> 0:41:57.359
<v Speaker 2>I love it.

0:41:57.800 --> 0:42:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Who is probably the more the most And James Gunn.

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:06.600
<v Speaker 3>Did confirm that it is the Nanaway from Suicide Squad

0:42:06.840 --> 0:42:07.680
<v Speaker 3>that we already know.

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so it is kind of dumb cute.

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:12.400
<v Speaker 1>How is he back?

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:14.600
<v Speaker 2>How is he back? What did he do?

0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:16.759
<v Speaker 3>He probably just ate a human, that's my guess, because

0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:19.920
<v Speaker 3>the rest of them kind of, you know, they they

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:22.200
<v Speaker 3>like blackmailed their way out of it at the end

0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:25.480
<v Speaker 3>of that movie. But yeah, he's back, and I love that.

0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 3>I love that cheeky guy.

0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Let's go to a quick break and then we'll come

0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:31.240
<v Speaker 1>back and let's talk about our thoughts on Creature Comanda.

0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:50.080
<v Speaker 1>See we're back, Okay, Creature Commando season one. I think

0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:54.480
<v Speaker 1>it was a very James gun way to start his reign, right,

0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:56.879
<v Speaker 1>I think you get the you got the whole package here.

0:42:56.920 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 1>You got the found fam like freaked found family. You

0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:08.359
<v Speaker 1>got moments of you know, surprising like emotion, you got

0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:13.920
<v Speaker 1>that devastating loss. You've got the monsters who are misunderstood.

0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:19.520
<v Speaker 1>You got a lot of freaky sexual activities.

0:43:20.160 --> 0:43:23.560
<v Speaker 3>And especially there was a lot of like, oh, this

0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:24.760
<v Speaker 3>is a horny cartoon.

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:28.680
<v Speaker 1>It really was. I will start it off quite already.

0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:31.440
<v Speaker 3>Like the best of James Gunn's stuff. For me, a

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:35.239
<v Speaker 3>lot of this series surprised me and got me excited,

0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 3>Like I loved seeing the kind of I thought the

0:43:38.560 --> 0:43:43.760
<v Speaker 3>Weasel episode was such a big, kind of great proof

0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:48.920
<v Speaker 3>of how James Gunn can be really thoughtful and unexpected

0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 3>and and be on the side of the little guy.

0:43:51.239 --> 0:43:53.400
<v Speaker 3>And just like a lot of his stuff, there were

0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:55.120
<v Speaker 3>some bits that didn't work for me or that I

0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:58.959
<v Speaker 3>thought were a little I think that the finale. There's

0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 3>a great critic called Richard Nubi who works for the

0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:06.440
<v Speaker 3>Hollywood Reporter, who I think is brilliant, and his response

0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:08.920
<v Speaker 3>to the finale was essentially that he felt like it

0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:10.479
<v Speaker 3>leaned a bit too much into the.

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Cruelty that guns sometimes goes for. And I would agree

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:14.080
<v Speaker 2>with that.

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:16.920
<v Speaker 3>I think like even there are a couple of moments

0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:20.160
<v Speaker 3>where like, even the Princess, you know she is evil guy,

0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:23.239
<v Speaker 3>she was gonna do this terrible thing. Though, Also, are

0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:26.520
<v Speaker 3>we now in a Minority Report scenario where we're just

0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:27.480
<v Speaker 3>killing people for.

0:44:27.840 --> 0:44:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Well pre crime?

0:44:29.560 --> 0:44:32.480
<v Speaker 3>Good point, because I feel like that's a whole issue

0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:34.400
<v Speaker 3>that we're gonna have to deal with in the in

0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:35.640
<v Speaker 3>the DC universe.

0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Now, this show was it zigs and zags because it

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:43.040
<v Speaker 1>starts off, as we've said, it seemed like a very

0:44:43.040 --> 0:44:45.759
<v Speaker 1>simple story, and then it got surprisingly deep, and then

0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 1>as we came down the stretch, it kind of zagged

0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:53.319
<v Speaker 1>back to where I felt like we need, you know what,

0:44:53.520 --> 0:44:58.320
<v Speaker 1>we needed like a thirty second scene in which Waller,

0:44:59.000 --> 0:45:03.080
<v Speaker 1>who has been bamboozled throughout her entire appearance. She's just

0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:06.960
<v Speaker 1>getting bamboozled multiple appearances into DC, whether it's live action

0:45:07.200 --> 0:45:10.800
<v Speaker 1>or animated, She's been bamboozled all the time. It's unclear

0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:14.400
<v Speaker 1>if she is good at her job. Uh, but we

0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:17.400
<v Speaker 1>needed a scene where she goes, Okay, I know I

0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:19.880
<v Speaker 1>told you to kill her, but then I called it off,

0:45:19.960 --> 0:45:22.279
<v Speaker 1>and now you did it with after I told you

0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:24.240
<v Speaker 1>not to do it. But you know what we figured

0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:26.080
<v Speaker 1>it out and it's okay, and also like you.

0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:28.879
<v Speaker 2>Were the right like and that proves that you are

0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:31.239
<v Speaker 2>the right person for this. It was a twenty nine

0:45:31.239 --> 0:45:33.920
<v Speaker 2>minute episode. I love that they.

0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:38.160
<v Speaker 3>Can do this kind of this short like animated storytelling,

0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:39.719
<v Speaker 3>but I think the finale we could have had an

0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:43.000
<v Speaker 3>extra five minutes where Walla's either getting like taken to

0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:46.839
<v Speaker 3>task or we're just having because it goes from the

0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:51.240
<v Speaker 3>Bride killing the princess. And then one of my moments

0:45:51.320 --> 0:45:53.360
<v Speaker 3>I didn't like in this was like there's like a

0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:56.400
<v Speaker 3>weirdly long like thirty seconds. It feels like like just

0:45:56.520 --> 0:45:59.120
<v Speaker 3>shot of this like dead woman with like you know,

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:01.120
<v Speaker 3>blood coming out her face, and I was like, oh,

0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:01.759
<v Speaker 3>this is a game.

0:46:01.880 --> 0:46:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean they gave you. They gave you. It's

0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:04.799
<v Speaker 1>in slow mo, so you can.

0:46:05.440 --> 0:46:07.360
<v Speaker 2>They were like they were like, do you hate women?

0:46:07.600 --> 0:46:09.320
<v Speaker 2>You can? You can love looking at.

0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:12.080
<v Speaker 3>This, Like but then I thought it was gonna set

0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 3>up the Bride and Weasel and Doctor Phosphorus almost like

0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:19.239
<v Speaker 3>on their own and season two they're gonna have to yeah,

0:46:19.360 --> 0:46:23.919
<v Speaker 3>like then, but they just go back to Bell Reeve

0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:25.919
<v Speaker 3>and it's like, yeah, you guys were right, And I'm

0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:26.960
<v Speaker 3>like guys.

0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Similarly, I mean it just felt like, you know, the

0:46:30.200 --> 0:46:34.120
<v Speaker 1>sons of them, Scara, we never really, we never really

0:46:34.160 --> 0:46:36.320
<v Speaker 1>tied a knock in that thread, Like there are a

0:46:36.360 --> 0:46:36.799
<v Speaker 1>lot of things.

0:46:36.840 --> 0:46:39.080
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so do you think the but do you do

0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:42.640
<v Speaker 3>you think the leftover threads are so that they can

0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:44.600
<v Speaker 3>do something with it later in the DCU.

0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I think probably, But it just felt too dangling to me,

0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:53.000
<v Speaker 1>And I felt like rather than a post credit scene

0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:58.480
<v Speaker 1>in which Eric is basically doing the thing that we

0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:01.080
<v Speaker 1>saw him do a couple episodes's earlier, where he's about

0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:03.960
<v Speaker 1>to clearly is being nursed back to life by yet

0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:07.840
<v Speaker 1>another woman, old woman who's taken kindness on him and

0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:10.040
<v Speaker 1>being generous towards him, and clearly he's going to kill her.

0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Like I thought, we could have maybe just set up

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:18.120
<v Speaker 1>some of these threads that were not tied in. I

0:47:18.120 --> 0:47:20.680
<v Speaker 1>also have one. Here's my one. We've talked about some

0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:23.719
<v Speaker 1>of our criticisms thus far of the show. Here's mine

0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:29.279
<v Speaker 1>is while Aer too incompetent, I think like she she's

0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:35.799
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be like this ruthless, efficient mastermind who is

0:47:37.280 --> 0:47:42.719
<v Speaker 1>much like Batman always kind of got the angles covered

0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:47.440
<v Speaker 1>and has secret angles that she doesn't tell her people

0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:51.560
<v Speaker 1>about as backup plans to various things should things go wrong,

0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:56.200
<v Speaker 1>and here, much like in Suicide Squad, she just kind

0:47:56.200 --> 0:48:02.640
<v Speaker 1>of is like not in control, not about stuff. Yeah,

0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:05.720
<v Speaker 1>and had no idea what was going on for basically

0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:09.400
<v Speaker 1>the entire mission literally, And I'm not sure, I'm not.

0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I it's not like.

0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:14.880
<v Speaker 2>She doesn't have checks and balances in place.

0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it makes me feel as if we're not getting

0:48:18.920 --> 0:48:21.120
<v Speaker 1>the most out of Amanda Waller.

0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:25.400
<v Speaker 3>I agree, especially yet, especially because you know she was

0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:29.640
<v Speaker 3>right about the original plan and that could have just

0:48:29.760 --> 0:48:33.239
<v Speaker 3>been it, but we get that in built almost like

0:48:33.400 --> 0:48:36.400
<v Speaker 3>it's like how Apple builds in obsolescence to your phone,

0:48:36.440 --> 0:48:38.200
<v Speaker 3>so you have to always get the new one because

0:48:38.200 --> 0:48:40.840
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna break or become out of date. It's like

0:48:40.920 --> 0:48:43.480
<v Speaker 3>that had to be built in that. Once again, Walla

0:48:43.680 --> 0:48:46.400
<v Speaker 3>was not on top of things that she was not

0:48:47.280 --> 0:48:49.399
<v Speaker 3>the right in the right, that she did not know.

0:48:49.520 --> 0:48:52.319
<v Speaker 3>So I'm interested to see that, especially because recently in

0:48:52.360 --> 0:48:54.920
<v Speaker 3>the comics she has been like a top tier kind

0:48:54.960 --> 0:48:59.720
<v Speaker 3>of villain involved with a lot of really cosmic level shenanigans.

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:02.719
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I think we're gonna need to.

0:49:02.160 --> 0:49:05.200
<v Speaker 3>See Waller either. Is she gonna be the foil of

0:49:05.280 --> 0:49:08.560
<v Speaker 3>James Gunn's DCU or are we sort of even clearing

0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:11.880
<v Speaker 3>the path for a different villain. I do think that

0:49:12.040 --> 0:49:16.239
<v Speaker 3>James likes obviously John Economus, we have other members of

0:49:16.280 --> 0:49:19.319
<v Speaker 3>that team, and he kind of likes the underdogs, so

0:49:19.440 --> 0:49:22.759
<v Speaker 3>maybe that's why. But yeah, I'm I still like this team.

0:49:22.840 --> 0:49:26.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm interested to see what comes next. I like this

0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:31.439
<v Speaker 3>potential new iteration of the team. I hate I hate Eric.

0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:36.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, get rid of him, we don't need him. Who. Yeah,

0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:38.040
<v Speaker 3>I do think I do think that overall, I do

0:49:38.120 --> 0:49:40.880
<v Speaker 3>think that doctor Phosphorus was my MVP of just like

0:49:40.920 --> 0:49:43.200
<v Speaker 3>a character I actually want to hang out with and

0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:45.560
<v Speaker 3>like who I think is funny and spend more time with.

0:49:45.920 --> 0:49:48.400
<v Speaker 3>Who do you think is the most likely character aside

0:49:48.400 --> 0:49:51.960
<v Speaker 3>from ones that we know, like from the main Project

0:49:52.239 --> 0:49:57.239
<v Speaker 3>M team? Is it gonna be the Bride? Dr Fossphorus

0:49:57.840 --> 0:50:01.400
<v Speaker 3>Nosferata like Carlos. How much do you think those weird

0:50:01.520 --> 0:50:05.399
<v Speaker 3>characters have a chance of translating to the live action world.

0:50:06.920 --> 0:50:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, we've already seen Weasel. I feel like we could

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:10.960
<v Speaker 1>see Phosphorus in the Bride.

0:50:11.040 --> 0:50:11.759
<v Speaker 2>That's it does.

0:50:12.040 --> 0:50:16.120
<v Speaker 3>I feel like it's Unit doesn't feel like one hundred

0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:19.040
<v Speaker 3>percent likely, But I would say in dra Varma, who

0:50:19.120 --> 0:50:20.839
<v Speaker 3>voiced the bride, did a fantastic job.

0:50:20.880 --> 0:50:21.359
<v Speaker 2>I love her.

0:50:22.440 --> 0:50:26.040
<v Speaker 3>She's so great and you can immediately see her in

0:50:26.120 --> 0:50:29.120
<v Speaker 3>that role like they designed it to look like she

0:50:29.200 --> 0:50:30.440
<v Speaker 3>could she could play it.

0:50:30.640 --> 0:50:32.840
<v Speaker 2>I would love to see them bring Doctor Posphorus to

0:50:32.920 --> 0:50:35.120
<v Speaker 2>life because I think his design is so cool in

0:50:35.160 --> 0:50:35.600
<v Speaker 2>this show.

0:50:36.920 --> 0:50:42.880
<v Speaker 3>How do you feel going into the summer of Superman

0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:43.960
<v Speaker 3>the year of Superman?

0:50:44.280 --> 0:50:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Do you do you think this was a good setup?

0:50:46.360 --> 0:50:47.359
<v Speaker 3>Do you think it teed it off?

0:50:47.360 --> 0:50:47.720
<v Speaker 2>Well?

0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:52.239
<v Speaker 1>I think it was. You know how like when you

0:50:52.280 --> 0:50:57.000
<v Speaker 1>get into a pool or a hot tub, you want

0:50:57.000 --> 0:50:59.239
<v Speaker 1>to kind of dip a toe and get acclimated. To me,

0:50:59.320 --> 0:51:03.000
<v Speaker 1>this felt like Jay Gun getting acclimated, like doing something

0:51:03.160 --> 0:51:07.239
<v Speaker 1>in his wheelhouse to kind of set the tone and

0:51:07.640 --> 0:51:12.839
<v Speaker 1>get comfortable creating something in this world, start populating it

0:51:12.880 --> 0:51:15.080
<v Speaker 1>with weirdos who could come in and out, And I

0:51:15.120 --> 0:51:17.640
<v Speaker 1>think that's gonna be one of the hallmarks of his

0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:20.200
<v Speaker 1>run is You're gonna this is gonna be a fully

0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:25.600
<v Speaker 1>fleshed out DC world in which all these freaks exist

0:51:25.680 --> 0:51:27.440
<v Speaker 1>and you're going to see them in the background of

0:51:27.480 --> 0:51:29.600
<v Speaker 1>things coming in and out of different scenes, being a

0:51:29.640 --> 0:51:31.640
<v Speaker 1>part of different stories. So I think it was a

0:51:31.680 --> 0:51:33.719
<v Speaker 1>good I think it was a good start, and I'm

0:51:33.840 --> 0:51:39.160
<v Speaker 1>left feeling like I am tremendously excited for Superman. I

0:51:39.239 --> 0:51:43.319
<v Speaker 1>think I'm almost convinced that it's going to be a

0:51:43.360 --> 0:51:47.919
<v Speaker 1>massively huge movie and a success. That said, I'm also

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<v Speaker 1>left feeling like, gosh, there's a lot. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>riding on. Yeah, there's a lot of riding.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think what I love the most about this

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<v Speaker 3>if i'm if I'm looking at it from like always

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<v Speaker 3>like X three vision optimism that we try and channel.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that in dipping the toe and trying to

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<v Speaker 3>acclimate himself to this kind of gods and monster's slate,

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<v Speaker 3>this scope of this huge world.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I do like the fact.

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<v Speaker 3>That James Gunn just did the most James Gunn thing

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<v Speaker 3>ever and was like, Hey, I'm still doing this. He

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<v Speaker 3>was like, I'm still gonna do this, and then I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna try and do a Superman that's gonna break your heart.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I'm gonna let James Mangold do a swamp

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<v Speaker 2>thing that's going to terrify you. So I think you

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<v Speaker 2>made a great point.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this actually just adds to the law of

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<v Speaker 3>the world, which we saw from the Superman trailer is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be expansive and filled with all kinds of

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<v Speaker 3>superheroic characters, and I think it's interesting and I personally

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<v Speaker 3>Doctor Phosphorus the Bride. I would love to see them.

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<v Speaker 3>And also the thing that I did like that I

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<v Speaker 3>was unexpected.

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<v Speaker 2>For me.

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<v Speaker 3>I am the Suicide Squad's biggest supporter. I love that movie.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's the most radical thing James Gunn has done,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, purpose or otherwise. I don't know if it

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<v Speaker 3>was intentional or just because his influences were from like

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<v Speaker 3>great seventies war movies, conspiracy movies. I love that film,

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<v Speaker 3>and for me, it was a really nice surprise to

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<v Speaker 3>know that so much of what occurred and the characters

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<v Speaker 3>in there were cannon to this new world.

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<v Speaker 2>And I do hope that we get Idrice.

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<v Speaker 3>Elber back because I think that was a deeply underrated

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<v Speaker 3>performance and I would love to see him in this

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<v Speaker 3>kind of superhero filled world as that you know, Superman

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<v Speaker 3>Assassin with his Kryptonite bullet.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I think I'm excited for it.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't don't I don't think the finale was as

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<v Speaker 3>good as the best of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also think it was.

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<v Speaker 3>A finale that was very in line with the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of the show and James Gunns vibes, and it set

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<v Speaker 3>up this new team, this new project for the season

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<v Speaker 3>two that I believe has been already greenlit. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and that only leaves the most important question of all

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<v Speaker 3>that Aaron Kaufman are super bridgy popped in here. Where

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<v Speaker 3>does Nina place on the list of hottest fish people

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<v Speaker 3>in Hollywood?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Wow, I think she's pretty high up.

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<v Speaker 2>They really went.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she's up there. I think she's up there

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<v Speaker 1>in the top three, along with Shape of Water fish.

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<v Speaker 1>Where does George George Binks along with Jorjar Binks?

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<v Speaker 2>Jason said, I am a Jarja binks lover. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>that is a sexy man.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a fit Man's up there.

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<v Speaker 3>They definitely they took it to the next level because

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<v Speaker 3>obviously you have someone like an ape Sapien, a creature

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<v Speaker 3>from the Black Lago in Shape of Water obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say Shape of War ape Sapien.

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<v Speaker 3>They are meant to be, you know, sexual, both male

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<v Speaker 3>as much as we know. But Nina is like they

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<v Speaker 3>gave her that nineties comic book Body all Right, and

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<v Speaker 3>they they were like, do you want to have sex

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<v Speaker 3>with creeks from the Black Lagoon?

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<v Speaker 2>But you like boobs ay, so I'd say yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>would say, she's not that.

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<v Speaker 3>But now I'm gonna have to do we need to

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<v Speaker 3>do a whole spinoff episode about your jaw Joppinks opinions

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<v Speaker 3>because I need to know more.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. In the next few episodes of Extra Vision, we're

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<v Speaker 1>giving some comic book rerecs for James Gunn's upcoming Superman movie,

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<v Speaker 1>Get You Prepared for That and some of his lesser

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<v Speaker 1>known characters and the Smash Hit. And we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be covering some of the lesser known characters from the

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<v Speaker 1>Smash Hit video game, Marvel rivals Jeff Fans, Cloak and

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<v Speaker 1>Dagger Fans, et cetera. Plus our Skeleton Crew finale reactions

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<v Speaker 1>are coming this Friday. That's it for this episode. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for listening by.

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<v Speaker 2>X Ray.

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