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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, I'm Matthew Friedman, Matt F the Oracle. Welcome

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Speaker 1: with me talk to NFL Week eleven Market Movement and

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Speaker 1: Power Ratings is Austin Gale of The Ringer formerly of PFF. Austin,

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Speaker 1: it has been a wild NFL season so far. How's

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Speaker 1: it going for you?

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Speaker 2: Fantastic? I think parody makes the analysis harder, I guess right,

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Speaker 2: and I think it leads to more pressure. I do

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Speaker 2: a power ranking spile for The Ringer every single week

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Speaker 2: where you're trying to evaluate team strength, right, team power,

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Speaker 2: power rating, But every single fan just wants it necessarily

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Speaker 2: to be like a reflection of standings. Right, it's my

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Speaker 2: team has more wins? Why am I not? You know

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Speaker 2: the why aren't The Minnesota Vikings is the number two

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Speaker 2: team in the NFL, behind theh A little bit eagle

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Speaker 2: as well. They're not as good as the Buffalo bill is.

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Speaker 2: And if that they played that game again in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: I think they'd be under the house Gold played that

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Speaker 2: game in Buffalo, they'd be bigger underdogs on unusual feel

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Speaker 2: say the Vikings that Bols played in the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: they underdogs. That's what we're trying to determine with power rankings.

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Speaker 2: If you want to look at standings, go look at standings, right,

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Speaker 2: like Biking stands. I don't understand it, right, It's like

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Speaker 2: fans of teams, like, if you're happy about where your

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Speaker 2: team's success is, just go look at the standings and like, wow,

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Speaker 2: that's really cool. The Vikings are number two in the

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Speaker 2: NFL and win it wins this year or standings, But

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Speaker 2: going to a power rankings there, I don't I don't

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Speaker 2: understand why you ever put the Bikings at number two

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Speaker 2: right now, even after obviously a big head to head

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Speaker 2: win over Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is uh, maybe getting more kind of like philosophical,

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Speaker 1: but I think people go to power ratings primarily so

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Speaker 1: that they can complain like that. That's just that's part

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Speaker 1: that you know, because that's your point. It's not meant

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Speaker 1: to be reflective of standings. It's meant to be reflective

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Speaker 1: of what these teams are. And you know, it's not

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Speaker 1: as if it's even like, uh, like the difference of like, oh,

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Speaker 1: your team isn't number one in the power ratings because

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Speaker 1: strength of schedule, although that's part of it, it's also

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Speaker 1: like the way in which they've won games, like the

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Speaker 1: luck factor that needs to be taken into account. But

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Speaker 1: can you talk a little bit about what it is

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Speaker 1: that you consider when you are creating your power ratings

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Speaker 1: because everyone has a different way of doing what do

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Speaker 2: At the bottom of the list is wins and somewhere

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Speaker 2: below that is head to head wins. Right, the Washingt

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Speaker 2: Commanders last night they beat the Philadelphia Eagles, or the

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Speaker 2: Commander is a better team than the Eagles. No, like,

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Speaker 2: you don't. This isn't the college football playoff where there's

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Speaker 2: this arbitrary determiner of who goes to the playoffs, where

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Speaker 2: they're determining wins where they factor or determining who goes

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Speaker 2: where they're factoring in wins. First, right, it's who has

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Speaker 2: the most wins. Those are gonna be the top teams.

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Speaker 2: And then from there, if they have equal records, they're

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Speaker 2: determining from head to head wins, and then other players

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Speaker 2: and some as well in determining team power and who

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Speaker 2: is the best team in the NFL and who are

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Speaker 2: the strongest teams in the NFL team you should bet

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Speaker 2: on to win the Super Bowl? I think a common

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Speaker 2: expression I do some people will say, okay, between these

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Speaker 2: two teams, who would be favored on a neutral field.

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Speaker 2: And at that point you're trying to determine markets and

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Speaker 2: what odds makers see, and some of the Sometimes what's

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Speaker 2: factored in for odds makers is say, valuing a team

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Speaker 2: that they know gets bet on pretty heavily, regardless of

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Speaker 2: there's different things that go. What I look at is

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Speaker 2: if you gave me a hundred bucks, you gave me

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Speaker 2: one hundred bucks to bet on this team to win

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, and you'd win one hundred bucks in return.

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Speaker 2: Would you rather bet on the Bills or would you

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Speaker 2: rather bet on the vikings? I am betting on the

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Speaker 2: Bills every single time, right, Like you're betting on the

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Speaker 2: even odds? Are you taking the vikings of the Bills

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Speaker 2: to take anything but anything but the Buffalo Bills. In

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Speaker 2: that situation, that is the better football team, that is

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Speaker 2: the team more fit to win deep in the postseason,

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Speaker 2: and other factors that lay into that. Why are they

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Speaker 2: better on the football team. They have the better quarterback,

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Speaker 2: they have the better offense, they have a more efficient defense.

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Speaker 2: You factor in all these other layers. It starts with quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Which quarterbacks elevate their offenses? Which quarterbacks are at the

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Speaker 2: we know are sticky week to week and sticky over

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Speaker 2: and avoid quarterbacks or offenses that are overly dependent on

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Speaker 2: converting long third downs or have a really high regress

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Speaker 2: bound to regress red zone efficiency like that. That's where

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Speaker 2: you look at these teams and evaluate, Okay, because what

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Speaker 2: you're trying to determine with me is which team can

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Speaker 2: survive a two to three game you know, three games

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Speaker 2: think those are the teams that are stickier week to

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Speaker 2: week with the better offenses, the more efficient defenses, and

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Speaker 2: all seven defense isn't even something I'm looking at until

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Speaker 2: after quarterback, after offensive line, after your receiving talent, and

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Speaker 2: even like scheming offense, Like defense is so volatile, it's

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Speaker 2: so so injury prone. Like you you know, the Buffalo

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Speaker 2: all that stuff. And eventually you get boiled down to

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Speaker 2: this question, is you know you're getting you're getting one

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Speaker 2: hundred bucks to bet even money on this team win.

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Speaker 2: Who you're taking right now? And I'm taking the Bills.

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Speaker 2: I'm taking the Bills of the Minnesota Vikings after obviously

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Speaker 2: the Bikings won on the road in what was a

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Speaker 2: incredible game by the Vikings by Justin Jefferson, by Patrick Peterson.

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Speaker 2: Still if you play that game ten times, Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: You mentioned defense and how it's pretty low on the list,

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Speaker 1: and I agree with you, like I agree with you

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent, And you just have to think about

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Speaker 1: a team like the Denver Broncos maybe the best defense

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Speaker 1: he would be. It is interesting, though, I want to

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Speaker 1: A lot of sharp people people would say that's the case.

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Speaker 1: This is a weird year, though, and unders have crushed

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Speaker 1: And so it is this weird year where maybe maybe

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Speaker 2: Well all my response to that, and I think maybe

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Speaker 2: my response to that is that we have had less

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Speaker 2: elite quarterback play this year, and that may maybe that's

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Speaker 2: a reflection of defenses being better and defenses being quote

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Speaker 2: five years five years ago in twenty seventeen, teams playing

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Speaker 2: but often is Cover two or quarters. You're seeing that

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Speaker 2: forty four percent of the time over the last five years.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't a significant jump from last year, but over

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Speaker 2: time you're seeing defenses limit passing and limit explosives, or

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Speaker 2: try to limit explosives by the shift in more guys back,

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Speaker 2: led to quarterbacks having to adapt how they play the game.

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Speaker 2: You compared to what patri Mahomes is doing in twenty

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Speaker 2: eighteen to what he's doing now exciting day, right, Offenses

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Speaker 2: have to change, Quarterbacks have to change. There are only

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Speaker 2: And I think that's led to more unders, that's led

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Speaker 2: it's honestly the league is bereft of elite quarterback talent,

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Speaker 2: like it was with the heights of Roethlisberger, Brady Rogers, Manning.

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Speaker 2: Like you know, five six years ago, when the top

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Speaker 2: I honestly think there are two quarterbacks in the NFL three.

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Speaker 2: There's three quarterbacks in the NFL actually elevating offenses every

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Speaker 2: single week. That is Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: And we've even seen with Lamar Jackson struggle to finish

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Speaker 2: Fam just missing time, the offensive line injured, Tom Brady

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Speaker 2: unable to almost consistently elevate the offense above their needs

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Speaker 2: seeing it with these quarterback talent falling off. It's yes

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Speaker 2: saying defenses are maybe more valuable, maybe should be facted

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Speaker 2: more into power ratings. I also I think it's that

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Speaker 2: supporting cast and coaching staff needs to be in factor

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Speaker 2: that it used to be, like better quarterback getting points,

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Speaker 2: let's go, or better quarterback, better quarterback. It's now do

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Speaker 2: they have Mike McDaniel, Do they have a Shanahan on

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Speaker 2: uh Nick Sirianni and change striking, like actually elevating an

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Speaker 2: more important. You're looking at around the league, the eleven

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Speaker 2: I'm calling them the eleven personnel merchants struggling to adapt

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Speaker 2: to an increase in quarters and cover two and too high.

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Speaker 2: Where you know Zach Taylor, Sean McVay are two offenses

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Speaker 2: specifically that live out of eleven personnel, right, like, run

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Speaker 2: eleven personnel, and we try and stay within that and

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Speaker 2: have speed at the receiver, not have tight ends, not

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Speaker 2: have fullbacks on the football fild, and have speed speed speeds,

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Speaker 2: if you're gonna run eleven personnel a the time, we're

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Speaker 2: have two safeties back and we're not gonna let you explode.

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Speaker 2: Now when look at the top of the NFL, Jalen

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that's working for other offenses. It's like, we

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Speaker 1: So you have an article that comes out, UH each

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Speaker 2: Cowboys and the Seahawks would have to have like a

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Speaker 2: legitimate collapse to lose out on the playoffs. With a

433
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Speaker 2: two game lead over the Packers right now. And the

434
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Speaker 2: last team I'll bring up as a team that I

435
00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,480
Speaker 2: think is I'm going to move up. It's a team

436
00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,520
Speaker 2: we talked about a little bit, but it's the Chiefs.

437
00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,879
Speaker 2: Like the Chiefs an offensive VPA per drive or double

438
00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,280
Speaker 2: the second ranked team in the NFL, Like this offense

439
00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,040
Speaker 2: is good would be an understatement, and this offense is

440
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,560
Speaker 2: best in the league is an understatement. It is doing

441
00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,280
Speaker 2: better than any other offenses consistently. And you want to

442
00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,000
Speaker 2: say the Bills are good, they're two or three. The

443
00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,800
Speaker 2: Dolphins are right there with them too, Like they've had

444
00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,240
Speaker 2: a lot of success in recent weeks, like two Tungue

445
00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,520
Speaker 2: Malila is what three touchdown passes, no picks in the

446
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,520
Speaker 2: last three games, like they're playing with a lot of

447
00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,359
Speaker 2: you know, they're having a lot of success. The Chiefs

448
00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,760
Speaker 2: are better by a significant, significant degree, and that for me.

449
00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:48,960
Speaker 2: You look at them going against the Chargers, which I

450
00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,280
Speaker 2: know is a divisional game, which I know is in

451
00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:51,920
Speaker 2: a prime time spot. A lot of people are looking

452
00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,760
Speaker 2: to potentially get the Chargers at plus six plus six

453
00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,200
Speaker 2: and a half. I don't know. This Kansas City team

454
00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:57,880
Speaker 2: is different. And when you look at the Chargers defense,

455
00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,239
Speaker 2: they can't stop a noseblea. It's one. It's again one

456
00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,160
Speaker 2: of the worst run defenses in the NFL and still

457
00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,679
Speaker 2: struggling also to limit explosives in the passing game. So

458
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 2: I like the Chiefs a lot. I've moved them up

459
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,119
Speaker 2: a bit. I think that the Chiefs are legit, legit

460
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 2: Super Bowl contenders, and now that they have, you know,

461
00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,080
Speaker 2: the the clear path to the first seed in the AFC, YEP,

462
00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,360
Speaker 2: potentially securing that potentially securing that you know, first round

463
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 2: by which is uber important and betting on. It's like

464
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,680
Speaker 2: if you have the first seed versus the second seed,

465
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,160
Speaker 2: it is night and day in terms of your prospects

466
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:28,919
Speaker 2: of getting them super Bowl. Winning two games to go

467
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,680
Speaker 2: there versus winning three is a big difference.

468
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And we'll talk more about that that Chiefs a

469
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Speaker 1: Chargers game in a little bit. I'm with you on

470
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs in that. I mean, I haven't moved them

471
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Speaker 1: up that much, but that's because I already started the

472
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Speaker 1: season with them pretty high, Like I was higher than

473
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Speaker 1: a lot of the market on the Chiefs and had

474
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Speaker 1: them closer to that Buffalo Bills tier like a lot

475
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Speaker 1: of people had sort of like the Bills, Tier Break,

476
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Speaker 1: Chiefs and other people, and I pretty much always had

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Speaker 1: it as a group of two, and I still have

478
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Speaker 1: it as a group of two, except now it's a

479
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,640
Speaker 1: very tight of two. Like the Chiefs are now right

480
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,639
Speaker 1: there with the Bills. And honestly, I've maybe been a

481
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 1: little bit slow to bump the Bills down in the rankings,

482
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Speaker 1: but I still think the Bills are probably the best

483
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Speaker 1: team in the league. But man, everything you said about

484
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 1: the Chiefs is right. The Chiefs are right there with

485
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Speaker 1: them teams that I've moved down. I mean, you talked

486
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Speaker 1: about bumping the Colts up. Gotta bump the Raiders down.

487
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Speaker 1: I mean, by the ways, speaking of the Raiders, they

488
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492
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494
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Speaker 1: The Raiders. Man, if you cannot beat if you are

495
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,400
Speaker 1: a head coach, a professional head coach, and you cannot

496
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Speaker 1: beat an ESPN analyst coming in on a short week

497
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,640
Speaker 1: with an offensive play caller who's never called plays at

498
00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:01,360
Speaker 1: any level, you should probably be fired. And it would

499
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 1: not be a surprise if that happens to Josh McDaniels

500
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 1: at some point this year. I think it would be

501
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 1: a minor miracle if he makes it through the entire season.

502
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Speaker 1: But man, I have to downgrade the Raiders in a

503
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Speaker 1: very significant fashion. And that's just sort of like the

504
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 1: coaching that doesn't really even take into account that your defense,

505
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 1: especially pass defense, one of the worst units in the league.

506
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Speaker 1: So downgraded the Raiders, downgraded the Rams. That was even

507
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Speaker 1: before news of Cooper Cup going on IR so definitely

508
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Speaker 1: going to downgrade.

509
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Speaker 2: Them some more.

510
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Speaker 1: And then the Falcons, which that's probably more of just

511
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: a little bit like I might have been a little

512
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 1: bit too high on you, but like your defense is bad,

513
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: especially when you don't have your number one cornerback and

514
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 1: your number two cornerback is on IR, Like you really

515
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: have nothing going for you on the defensive side of

516
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: the ball, especially in past defense, which is the part

517
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: of defense that matters the most. So pretty big downgrade,

518
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Speaker 1: Like if you can't beat the Panthers, who I have

519
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: no respect for I need to downgrade you. So those

520
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: are the teams that I've moved down the most. Looking

521
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 1: here Raiders and Rams, I see that you've moved them down,

522
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: and then also the Broncos, which I can't disagree with you.

523
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Speaker 2: There for the Rars, I do think that it would

524
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 2: be a minor miracle for Raiders fans if Josh McDaniels

525
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 2: is fired, because the problem is, and I'm from Oakland, California,

526
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 2: I've been a Raider stamp for almost too long. I

527
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 2: had season tickets my dad in ten years. Like the

528
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: problem is is that Mark Davis is notably one of

529
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Speaker 2: the if not the forest owner in the NFL, and

530
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Speaker 2: he's likely he's likely still paying John Gruden whatever settlement

531
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Speaker 2: he came to when he resigned, obviously when he by

532
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 2: laid the NFL policy all that stuff that happened. So

533
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 2: he's still paying John Gruden and bringing in Dave Ziegler

534
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 2: and Josh mccaniels as objectively a pairing, Right, you don't

535
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 2: fire one. I don't think you can, like I think

536
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 2: you have to. They are a pairing. Moving on from

537
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 2: them would be an insane buyout at this point, like

538
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 2: you would have to pay more money for another coach

539
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 2: that isn't coaching his football team again if he did

540
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 2: move on from Josh mcgahel. So if I surprise that

541
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 2: Mark Davis has already told no people and sources are

542
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Speaker 2: out from the Athletic that Josh mcganiels isn't going anywhere,

543
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 2: Am I surprised that he's saying quoe unquote, he's doing

544
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 2: a fantastic job. No, because that would admit two age one,

545
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 2: Mark Davis has done a terrible job at hiring coaches,

546
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 2: like awful, like terrible. Two, you'd have to pay a

547
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 2: lot of money to do it. Like he's like, yeah,

548
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Speaker 2: he's doing a fantastic job, because if I had the

549
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Speaker 2: fire arm, I'm going to pay him like twenty million

550
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 2: dollars to coach for another team and him be a

551
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 2: special assistant on the Patriots, just like Matt Patricia. People

552
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 2: don't bring that up enough. The reason Matt Patricia is

553
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 2: not off his coordinator is because in the contract file

554
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 2: of the Lions is that if you got a coordinator

555
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 2: a coaching position, you get paid more. That's what's happening.

556
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 2: So like mc daniels would go get some fairy tale

557
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 2: position with the Patriots and go collect cash money from

558
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Speaker 2: Mark Davis if he gets fired. So Josh McDaniels knows

559
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 2: and Dame z Brew know that their jobs are saying

560
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 2: the problem is is someone's gonna have to pay for this, right,

561
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Speaker 2: And I think what's going to happen wrongfully in Las

562
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 2: Vegas is that Derek Carr, potentially even DeVante Adams. DeVante

563
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 2: was win to Las Vegas to play with Derek Carr.

564
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 2: Now it's crazy talk, almost ridiculous to assume that some

565
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 2: monster package trade could happen with Karen Adams as a

566
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 2: bargain deal. But I don't know. Like Demanta Adams says,

567
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 2: the effort and the buying is bad. Jared Carr is

568
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 2: crying at a press conference, right, I've never seen him

569
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 2: do right, saying the effort and Buyan's bad. Josh mccanil says,

570
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 2: I don't have any problems with you. That's disconnected. And

571
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 2: if you have disconnect between your two best players Karen Adams,

572
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 2: in my opinion, there could be a situation where Karen

573
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 2: Adams aren't playing for the Raiders in twenty twenty three

574
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 2: and they move on from Darren Waller, who can't get healthier,

575
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 2: maybe doesn't want to be healthy for this team. They

576
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 2: move on from Bill Chandler Jones after signing this big deal,

577
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 2: like they could do a lot of things because Siegler

578
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 2: and McDaniel's aren't and Mark Davis aren't willing to admit that, Hey,

579
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 2: the problem is me, not the players, and that could

580
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: just lead to a more disaster for a Raiders franchise

581
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 2: that just light out doesn't deserve it. I'm saying that

582
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: to my dad. My dad has not deserve this. He's

583
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 2: been a Raiders fan too long to see just more

584
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 2: of this disaster. So yeah, of course you're moving them down.

585
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 2: You're gonna have after the public statements that Mark Davis

586
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 2: and Josh McDaniels may disagreeing with Karr and Adams. I

587
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 2: think you're gonna have more fallout right. Vic Taper of

588
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: The Athletic reported this recently in a piece saying Josh

589
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 2: McDaniels is doing longer meetings, longer practices, and quote unquote

590
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 2: having team officials scour the players social media. You're wondering

591
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 2: why Blake Martinez, the team's leading tackler against the Jaguars,

592
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: retired after that game. Do you wonder why like obviously,

593
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 2: like go listen to the im Athlete podcast with Greaton

594
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 2: Marshall who played for Josh mcmaniels on that six and

595
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 2: zer run and was like, hey, we went six and

596
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: oh and then after we lost a ton of games

597
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 2: because they found out we were cheating and have people's practice show.

598
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of red flags. There's a lot

599
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 2: of things that have shown that Josh McDaniels maybe isn't it.

600
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: It doesn't have it, especially losing to an ESPN analyst

601
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 2: on a Sunday where your favorite a hold by six

602
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 2: and a half. But it could lead to more disaster

603
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 2: if Mark Davis isn't willing to part ways with this

604
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 2: regime and would rather watch Adams, car Waller, Crosby Jones,

605
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 2: some of these guys that they have walk out the door.

606
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 2: Other teams I have low. I think the rams, you

607
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 2: have to drop the rams. I wouldn't be surprised if

608
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 2: the proverbial verbal on the season happens with Cooper Cup

609
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: on the IR, Matthew Stafford battling an injury. Why not

610
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 2: not necessarily tank because obviously you can't take in the

611
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 2: NFL and you get stripped of picks but like, why

612
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 2: not get healthy? Call it that that's the positive way.

613
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 2: Get healthy, Get Cooper Cup healthy, get Matthew Stafford healthy,

614
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: get the offensive line healthy, and start Wolford for the

615
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 2: rest of the year and avoid more catastrophe. I think

616
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 2: that's something that they could lean because Benjamin Solach was

617
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 2: analyst here at the Ringer. I think it's smart too

618
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: analyt it was smart too highlight. John McVay was mulling

619
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Speaker 2: retirement last year. Aaron Donald was moulling retirement last year.

620
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 2: And if you have some of those players go, how

621
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: committed are some of these other players to be a

622
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Speaker 2: part of a rebuilding team in THEFL? I don't know.

623
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Speaker 2: It would be interesting to see a team lose McVay

624
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 2: or losing McDonald and offseason, and I think ownership has

625
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 2: to do whatever they can to make sure McVay and

626
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 2: Donald stay. And I think that could be getting healthy,

627
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 2: punting on a season, getting a higher draft pick, and

628
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: moving forward on to twenty twenty three. But we'll see.

629
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Speaker 2: I don't know what they'll do. The last team I

630
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 2: mentioned is again the Broncos. I think the Broncos are

631
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 2: at a point now where the offense is so bad

632
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: and so inefficient that I think you're gonna see Russell

633
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 2: Wilson and Nathaniel Hackett down the stretch making short term

634
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 2: decisions to specifically Hacket making short term decisions to kind

635
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 2: of save his job, which I think could lead to hey,

636
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: the keys of the offense completely to Russell Wilson and

637
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 2: missing changing a lot or just making radical or irrational

638
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 2: changes to the offense to try and show signs of

639
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 2: life that ultimately lead to worse things. So the offense

640
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: is so bad at Denver that I think the stat

641
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: is if they scored eighteen or more points in every

642
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 2: game this year, they'd be eight and one. That is disgusting,

643
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 2: and I don't think it's getting any better. Jerry Duty

644
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 2: battling an injury, Courtland Sutton I think is struggling as

645
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: is just go ball target right, But people are like

646
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 2: in the off season, no man Courtland Sutton and Russell Wilson.

647
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson is only show throwing like Bachelor of goalballs.

648
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 2: In this offense. There's nothing over the middle of there's

649
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 2: nothing on the deep dig and that is concerning and

650
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: I think ultimately limiting his production as well. I don't

651
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: like this procos team right now, I think that the Raiders,

652
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 2: who he just talked about as the team that or

653
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: dropping or two and a half point favorites of the

654
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: Broncos this week. That and or No, they're two and

655
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: a half point dogs on the road. But still I

656
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: wouldn't count out the Raiders in that game either, because

657
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: both those teams are bad.

658
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: I know, it's it's a game. I looked at that

659
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: and my my numbers showed some value on the Raiders,

660
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: and it was just like, I can't do it, Like

661
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: I adjust my numbers, but there's no way I can

662
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: adjust because both of these teams are are bad. And

663
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: it's not just that the Broncos are bad. They're injured,

664
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: significantly injured on offense. And you have to wonder if

665
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: they have their starting left tackle, they're starting right tackle,

666
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: their starting center, right, if Tim Patrick hadn't you know,

667
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: destroyed his leg in the in the preseason, right, you

668
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: just have to wonder if they were fully healthy, how

669
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: this team might be different.

670
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: You know.

671
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: The thing is my feeling is it might not be

672
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: that different because Russell Wilson is who he is, So

673
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,959
Speaker 1: there are all of these other things that could that

674
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: could help explain and kind of contextualize what's happening with

675
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: the Broncos. But in the end, I think it's the

676
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: core problem of you've got this head coach, you've got

677
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: this quarterback on their own separately, both of them might

678
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: be kind of overrated anyway, and then you put them

679
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: together and it's it's just like not working at all. Uh,

680
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: They're just they're not compatible in the way that people

681
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: imagine they would.

682
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 2: Be if the Broncos were. This is becoming one of

683
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: my least favorite things that I think we talk about

684
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: too much, not you specifically, like the media general, It's like,

685
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: injuries are there. Every team is hurt. Like every single

686
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: week we're like, oh, man, if Justin Herbert had this,

687
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 2: you know this this and this, or Russell Wilson had

688
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 2: this and this, or you know, Aaron Rodgers had his

689
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: starting left tackle day. But every team is hurt. You

690
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 2: know who's hurt, Daniel Jones, Brian Dave all led Giants who,

691
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 2: like true generally, are starting receivers that I never heard of,

692
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 2: Like I don't even know who these guys are, and

693
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: still finding ways to win football games and have success offensively.

694
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 2: Now they have injuries along the offensive line, Daniel Bellinger

695
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: is starting tight end former Aztec legitimately like how does

696
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: I punched out? And they're starting like backup, backup tight

697
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: ends and still are like it's easy to make the

698
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,479
Speaker 2: injury excuse. Every team is hurt now more teams are

699
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: hurt than others. And I understand that. But like the

700
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: problem in Denver and the problem in some of these

701
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 2: other ineficient offenses last AGAs, et cetera, is not injuries.

702
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: It is you did not go into the season with

703
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: enough to overcome what you have. And I think Nathaniel

704
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: Hackett and Russell Wilson have an obvious, obvious disconnect in

705
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 2: offensive philosophy that they'll never say this. The Denver Broncos

706
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,719
Speaker 2: got Nathaniel Hackets potentially lure Aaron Rogers, and when they

707
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: did it, they went and got another big name quarterback

708
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: that is not Aaron Rodgers, and that has led to

709
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 2: disconnect and offensive philosophy. You have at times Daniel Hacket

710
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 2: throwing Russell Wilson under the bus. You have Russe Wilson

711
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: throwing actor the butt like there is a mess in Denver,

712
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: And it starts with that disconnect between the coach and

713
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 2: coach and quarterback. The problem is, is Russell Wilson the money

714
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: that you're paying hand counts against the cat and you

715
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 2: can't move off with him. The Daniel Hackett doesn't. And

716
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: if you have rich ownership with obvious, you have new

717
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: ownership in Denver, the worship is gonna say fuck it, like,

718
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 2: we don't need this guy, right, We're going move on

719
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: from Nathaniel Hackett. You thought he was a sposh higher

720
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: he's not. And they're gonna be looking at other coaches

721
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: potentially available. They're gonna be looking at Demiico Ryans or

722
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: say Sean Payton rumor starts to scroll up. They're gonna

723
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: be looking at another big name to come in and

724
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 2: actually mirror what Russell Wilson wants to do offensively. Now

725
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: is that a good offense? Who knows, But it's at

726
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 2: least one that your star quarterback that you're paying, like

727
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: what two hundred and fifty million dollars likes to run

728
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: and that's ultimately what you're gonna have to do when

729
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: you're when you're that cash connected to him over the

730
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: next few years.

731
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Sean Payton thing in Denver is interesting. It

732
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: would be hard for them to pull off because they

733
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: don't have the picks or the immediate picks to trade

734
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: to the Saints because they traded those picks for Russell Wilson. So,

735
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: you know, as Sean Payton, that would maybe be interesting.

736
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: I you know, skeptical that it would happen, but I

737
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: do think he you know, his name will be floated

738
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: in connection with a lot of teams. I think pretty soon, Okay,

739
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: I want to look at it.

740
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 2: One thing on that I have one thing on that

741
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 2: I am really really excited talking about things I don't

742
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: like talk about. It was like how teams are hurt.

743
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 2: Every team's hurt. I'm really really excited in the media

744
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 2: to start talking about the Sean Payton trade value because

745
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: we just saw Jeff Saturday. I think from ESPN game Indianapolis.

746
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 2: You're telling me Sean Payton's were two first round picks.

747
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I don't know, like I'm not

748
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: trading significant capital if I'm timber, when I can maybe

749
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: look at I don't know, Shannon Sharp or I don't know,

750
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: like someone else to come in and be like the

751
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 2: raw rock guy for the scene and because like, is

752
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 2: Sean Payton not gonna run An offense that Russell Wilson

753
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: wants to run. I don't know. I think we're Denver's like, yeah,

754
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 2: we're gonna trade like two future first round pants Jo Payton.

755
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: That is a scary proposition in the league where we

756
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 2: just saw maybe the number two or third chair on

757
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: get Up lead a Colts team to a win over

758
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: the Raiders on the road. I don't know, man, I

759
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 2: didn't Trading a lot of caltun for Peyton might be

760
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 2: a costly different.

761
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're We're just a year away from Peter Schrager

762
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: being a head coach and uh skip skip Bayless, he

763
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: might end up doing the job. Okay, all right, So

764
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: I want to I want to hit on some of

765
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: the games that we have coming up this week and

766
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: look at some of the line movement and kind of

767
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: think about what this means. And you mentioned Lamar Jackson

768
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: earlier and this Ravens game they are hosting the Panthers.

769
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: In the offseason market, this number was five and a

770
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: half or six. It opened at twelve and a half

771
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: in the Thursday look ahead market, was still twelve and

772
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: a half in the Sunday early market, and it's moved

773
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 1: to twelve on the news that Baker Mayfield is going

774
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 1: to be starting instead of PJ.

775
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 2: Walker.

776
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: But man, I gotta say, I look at this and

777
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: it feels like to me, this number probably isn't big

778
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: enough because I have zero respect for the Panthers and

779
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,479
Speaker 1: quite a bit of respect for the Ravens also coming

780
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: off of the buy, a very long buy for them.

781
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, what do you think about

782
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: what do you think about this game and the movement

783
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: that we've seen in the market.

784
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that knowing Baker Mayfield is starting over PJ. Walker,

785
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: I think on paper evaluating if you if you're inputting

786
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: the successes of the two quarterbacks into an algorithm or

787
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 2: a model, it's going to spit out a similar number.

788
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 2: I do think that PJ. Walker elevates the offense, maybe

789
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 2: more than what what models will see in some of

790
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 2: the data. That to me has me thinking that the

791
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: number may be too small, especially on the road. And yes,

792
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: the Ravens have the edge and rest, but Caroline Panthers

793
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: are coming off a long week as well. Obviously played

794
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: on Thursday night, so it's not like as Diers is

795
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: on a team playing on Sunday. For me, the reason

796
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 2: the hesitancy I had to like lay Baltimore minus follow

797
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: or lay Baltimore minus twelve and a half is I

798
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: do have faith in the Panther's run defense. Derrick Brown,

799
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 2: Brian Bones, Frankie Luvu, those guys Matt I and Ias

800
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: and those guys healthy, they are very good, you know front,

801
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: and they they I think can limit what the Baltimore

802
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 2: Ravens want to do running the football. Now limit Lamar Jackson.

803
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: He still might have one hundred fift yards, you know

804
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 2: what I mean. It's it's it's still tough to do that.

805
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 2: I think that offensive. Though I don't know if Baker

806
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 2: Mayfield led Carolina Panthers have the horses to go to

807
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 2: to toe with Lamar Jackson to the Baltimore Ravens. I

808
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: think I probably ultimately stay away from this game. I

809
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 2: don't see significant value in laying a full twelve and

810
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 2: half of the Baltimore Ravens. But if I had to

811
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 2: lean aside, I think Baltimore is the easier team to bet.

812
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, So in this number currently twelve at bet MGN.

813
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: Remember at bet MGM you can get the risk free

814
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: bet on thousand dollars when you use a promo code

815
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: betting pros with their first deposit. All right, another game

816
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: here that I want to look at. I talked about

817
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: Justin Fields and how he potentially is a Lamar esque

818
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: type of cheat code at the quarterback position in the

819
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: off season market. This game between the Bears and the

820
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: Falcons in Atlanta very close to a pick them. Falcons

821
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: were favored by half a point to a point. In

822
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: the look ahead market. The Falcons were favored by four

823
00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: on Thursday, and that number just screamed to me, like,

824
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of respect, as I mentioned

825
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: earlier for the Falcons, and increasingly I'm getting a ton

826
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: of respect for Justin Fields. And so this number was

827
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 1: four in the look ahead market. It opened at three

828
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: Sunday nights after we saw the Bears and a game

829
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: the Bears lost, by the way, but you know that

830
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: number still came towards them, and it is increasingly in

831
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: the market starting to move towards towards Chicago here, Like

832
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: it would not surprise me if we saw this move

833
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: through the key number of three and hit two and

834
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: a half at some point. What do you think of

835
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: this number and the movement that we've seen here?

836
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 2: I think getting Chicago at plus three right now is

837
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 2: a win. You know, if it does move, if it

838
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: does continue to move toward Chicago and the Falcons, you

839
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 2: get to two and a half, you're gonna be upset

840
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: that you didn't get the number at three. I think

841
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: you can see three in some markets right now. For me,

842
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: you had the Falcons. Is someone that you're downrating. I

843
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 2: don't know if I I think in primetime everyone wants

844
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: to say the Falcons should be starting Desert Ritter and

845
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 2: Mark Marcus Mary was awful. Marcus Barriota has not been

846
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: horrendous this year. I think there are some plays that

847
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: he'd like to have back, and especially that one where

848
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: he was getting sacked and looked like he was gonna throw.

849
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 2: Some of this stuff is but like this offense is

850
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 2: still had success running the football. The offensive line has

851
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: far exceeded expectations. CALEA McGarry. The right tackle is like

852
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 2: playing well and pass protection and and blocking well. It's

853
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: a testament to betting on big athletes to develop over

854
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 2: three or four years. Like I like this Atlanta Falcons

855
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 2: offense more than what their primetime showing was against Carolina Amplers.

856
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 2: And I think just the Field's breaking records running football

857
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 2: versus the Atlanta Falcons looking like dogshit in primetime. Is

858
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: going to have this number of co two in this

859
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 2: way the Chicago Bears. But if it gets to two

860
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: and a half two, I think the value is squeezed

861
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 2: out of Chicago. I honestly do. Like I think Atlanta

862
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 2: at home in a dome. I like the Falcons if

863
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 2: this number does get to two and a half two

864
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 2: at three maybe with the key number and the push probability,

865
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 2: like Chicago from a value perspective, But I think Atlanta

866
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: is getting a little bit underrated after a vile primetime

867
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 2: showing where people are asking for Ridder to start over Mariota.

868
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: My interpretation of that is Arthur Smith was right to say, hey,

869
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 2: we're not you know, we're not benching Mariota because he's

870
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 2: not giving up on the season. He's still mapping playoff

871
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: scenarios in the locker room and wants this to be

872
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 2: a playoff team. And what is a winnable NFC South.

873
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 2: I know the Buccaneers are having more success now and

874
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 2: they've they've lost the edge. The Falcons have lost the

875
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: edge in the NFC South, but still in Smith said

876
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: he still thinks he can compete for the division title.

877
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: He still thinks he can win to go to the playoffs.

878
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 2: As long as that's the case, Mariota, I do think,

879
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 2: is the better short term answer for this football team. Now,

880
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: if ownership, say Arthur Blank, stepped in and said, hey,

881
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 2: we're punting on this year. I want to see what

882
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 2: we have in Ridder before I look at another quarterback,

883
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: that would be a different story, right, that would be

884
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 2: not necessarily punting on the season. I don't think going

885
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 2: from Mariota to Ridder is a dramatic, dramatic drop off,

886
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: but I do think it's a drop off. I think

887
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: it's a drop off from what Mariota has done and

888
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 2: how he's led this football team. I think it's over

889
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: I think we're overreacting to how poorly he played on

890
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 2: in that primetime game. I like the Falcons. If you

891
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 2: can get the number two and a half, if it's

892
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 2: at three with the push probability, maybe you lead Bears.

893
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: I think that's how close this game is.

894
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I bet this in the look ahead market

895
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: at four and logged it in the betting pros app

896
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904
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: I have to ask you about. We talked about the

905
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: Colts earlier and how we moved them up because they're

906
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: starting Matt Ryan, and in your power rankings piece you

907
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: have the Eagles as the number one overall team. Some

908
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 1: people might think it's a little bit spicy, especially after

909
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: Monday Night football, but you know, hey, I think I

910
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: think you know one of the top three teams in

911
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: the league for sure, so I think you can make

912
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: a case for and their defense very strong unit, So

913
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: you know, I can see it now we've got this

914
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: game in the off season. I mean, of course, this

915
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: number was going to be way different than what we

916
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: see now. The Colts, of course at home, were favored

917
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: by three in the off season. In the look ahead market.

918
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: On Thursday, this number was ten and a half.

919
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: Wow.

920
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: On Sunday it opened at eight and a half, and

921
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 1: then after Monday Night Football you have the Eagles losing

922
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: to the Commanders. This number is six and a half.

923
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 1: It has now dropped through the key number of seven.

924
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: And I gotta say, this feels like a massive overreaction

925
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: to what we saw last week with the Colts winning

926
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: a game where they were significant underdogs on the road

927
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: and the Eagles losing a game in primetime against a

928
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: divisional opponent in the second matchup of the year. This

929
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: number feels so so wrong. I am way off of

930
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: this number. I see a ton of value on the

931
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: Eagles here. I'm imagining you're in the same camp here,

932
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts on this game?

933
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: Definitely in the same camp. I think Eagles minus six

934
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: and a half is the only side I'd be willing

935
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: to play now. I did say that about the Raiders

936
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 2: when they were favored by six five and a half

937
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: all the way down to four before and they end

938
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: up winning. Now, what I do on think was obviously

939
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: factored into the look aheadline when it was at like

940
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 2: ten and a half was with Matt Ryan Startuck. I

941
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: think that is the biggest thing now for perception of

942
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 2: the Eagles after losing to the Commanders, the perception of

943
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 2: the Colts after beating the Raiders is going to affect

944
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 2: public spend maybe backing the Colts, especially at home. What

945
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 2: I think actually changes this number of the most is

946
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 2: that we know Sam Allnger is not going to start

947
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: and it is going to be Matt Ryan and Jonathan

948
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 2: Taylor should be healthy. Is that worth getting under the

949
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 2: key number seven? I don't know. And Eagles coming off

950
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: a loss where I'm sure there are a lot of

951
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 2: people in that locker room just absolutely disappointed, absolutely gutted

952
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 2: at the miss calls, at the turnovers at a rate

953
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: that may legitimately they haven't had more than one turnover

954
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 2: the game all year. They have three going that game.

955
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 2: To have three at the end of that game or

956
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: six at the end of that game, my opinion is

957
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: Eagles come out hot and get out to an earlier

958
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 2: lead and win this game as they have the first

959
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 2: eight games of the season against a bad coach team,

960
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 2: a bad coach defense, and an offenseet before playing the

961
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 2: Raiders was the worst of the NFL by significant margin,

962
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 2: and offensive b paper drive. Now, some of that was Ryan,

963
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 2: some of that was Ellinger. This offensive line is still bad, Like,

964
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: don't let a get right game against one of the

965
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: worst poorly run franchises in the NFL. Let you start

966
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 2: betting the Colts as a six and a half point

967
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: dog against the Eagles. Yes, they're at home. The fact

968
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 2: that it's under at seven, maybe you're betting the Colts

969
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: at seven and a half. Maybe you're betting the Colts

970
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: so eight and a half to ten and a half.

971
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 2: I think those numbers are too big with Matt Ryan

972
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 2: started right at six and a half the values on

973
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: the Eagles, and I'm surprised that you can still get

974
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: that number now.

975
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely unreal there, Okay, so one game we're gonna

976
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: close it out here, Thursday night Football. We've got the

977
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: Packers hosting the Titans. When I wrote it up in

978
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: the outline, this number was two and a half. I

979
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: mean I betted at a two and a half because

980
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: it was just like, look, okay, the Packers. I've moved

981
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: them up. Aaron Rodgers at home. That's a historic spot

982
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 1: where blindly I'm basically fine betting on him at home.

983
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: This number is now three, and we've got the over

984
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: under at forty one. Do you have any opinion on

985
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: this game? Because I gotta say it, like now, I

986
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: make it exactly three, I'm pretty close to the total.

987
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: I don't really have much of an opinion except you know,

988
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: like I will probably look in the prop market where

989
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry going against a paper soft run defense for

990
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 1: the Packers. That feels just like a total smash spot

991
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: for Derrick Henry. Yeah, what are your thoughts on this

992
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: game and how we might see it play out.

993
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 2: I like the value of getting the Titans at plus three.

994
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 2: I mean, one of the best coach teams in the NFL,

995
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: and what Mikrable has done to maximize the value there

996
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 2: is really really a sight to see. I mean, there

997
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: was a number one seed the AFC last year with

998
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 2: a sick with obviously we had AJ Brown was a

999
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 2: more talented team, but like this year, like out of it.

1000
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 2: I don't think they win the first seed, but they're

1001
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 2: not out of it because of Mike ray Ball and

1002
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: how well coached his team is. If you look on

1003
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: some markets have Dereck Henry's rushing prop at ninety eight

1004
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 2: and a half, almost one hundred yards for Derrick Henry

1005
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 2: in this game against it obviously is a very bad

1006
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers defense. I think like the market is

1007
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 2: right to look at this as a probable one hundred

1008
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 2: yard game for Derrick Henry because I think this Titan's

1009
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 2: offense is going to be able to run the football,

1010
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: run play actually against a bad Packers defense, Aaron Rodgers

1011
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: at home and Lambo getting two and a half getting three.

1012
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 2: I like the Titans here. I'm probably taking the Titans

1013
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: at plus three. I'm taking the Titans a little bit

1014
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: on the money line at least a half unit. I

1015
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 2: like them going to Lambo and playing spoiler on a

1016
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: short week. I think they're the better coach team, and

1017
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: I think for Green Bay. As exciting as this win

1018
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 2: was over Dak Prescott and the Das Cowboys, you know,

1019
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: McCarthy got out class, like out class in a revenge

1020
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 2: game for Aaron Rodgers, I think I don't think Brabel does. Yes,

1021
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: it's yes, it's on the road for the Titans. I

1022
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 2: think Derrick Henry has a huge day. I think Ryan

1023
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: Tannehill lives off play action and the Packers dwindling hopes

1024
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 2: of making the postseason. Like two games back, many other

1025
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 2: team in the wildf I race in the NFC. I

1026
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 2: think they all but die with the Titans lost. Probably, Yeah.

1027
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I gotta say I always feel a little

1028
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: bit hesitant in taking a team against the Vrabel underdogs,

1029
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: you know, like Rabel as an underdog twenty one to

1030
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: twelve against the spread for his career. Like there's just

1031
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: something about about the team, the way that they play

1032
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: when the chips are stacked against them, where you can't

1033
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: count them out, so I can see it. I don't know.

1034
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: I was just maybe I was buying a little too

1035
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 1: much into the hype, and since I was near the

1036
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: key number of three, I was like, all right, if

1037
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: I'm under it, I'm gonna take it. But yeah, I

1038
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: will say.

1039
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna doubt anybody who likes the Packers at

1040
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 2: mins soon a half at home, Aaron Rodgers like, yes,

1041
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 2: I'm in. I think there's there's a lot of reasoning

1042
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 2: to back that bad but at three, I think there's

1043
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: more value on the Titans, you know.

1044
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: And I gotta say there's something with the Titans. There

1045
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: are particular teams and the Titans are one of them

1046
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: where they they have something that I think sort of

1047
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: escapes models because if you look at you know, like DVOA,

1048
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: you look at EPA, whatever. As you're looking at this

1049
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: feels like a very average team and yet like there

1050
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: are there are these intangible things where somehow they win games.

1051
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: They play games very tight. Maybe it's like they're they

1052
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 1: sort of play to the level of their opponent when

1053
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: they are playing really good teams. And you know, I

1054
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: think it's coaching, you know, but that's something that is

1055
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: hard to catch in models because it doesn't really show

1056
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: up in the numbers.

1057
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 2: I think it's also just like an elite run defense,

1058
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: like their run defense with Tierre Tar, Jeffrey Simmons, Nico Atri,

1059
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 2: like they have some dogs on the defensive line. Think

1060
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: they're allowing the lowest yards before first contact for attempt

1061
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 2: and we know that Aaron Rodgers and this Packers' offense,

1062
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: Wh've got on your center a lot against cowboys who

1063
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: ran the football, like they need to run the football

1064
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 2: to have success in my opinion, and I don't think

1065
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 2: they're gonna have it. They're not gonna have it. They're

1066
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 2: gonna have to do drop back passing. They're gonna have

1067
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 2: to ask Christian Watson to have another big game. Sammy Watkins.

1068
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: They just cut on Arnoie Rodgers, who's now off the

1069
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 2: team after promolloing that. But like, I think the Packers

1070
00:47:58,400 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: are gonna have to throw the ball more than they

1071
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 2: want to and in obvious passing situations more than they

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Speaker 2: want to, and that's enough for the Tights to see

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Speaker 2: kid here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I will want to pay attention to the injury

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Speaker 1: report because they had a lot of defensive linemen, a

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Speaker 1: lot of just defenders in general injured in Week ten.

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Speaker 1: On the shorter turnaround, I would expect that not all

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Speaker 1: of those guys are able to suit up. Jeffrey Simmons,

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Speaker 1: that'll be a big one, you know, if he's out

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Speaker 1: with the ankle injury. That does I think linds credence

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Speaker 1: to the idea that it will be easier to run

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Speaker 1: against the Titans. All right, Austin, it has been awesome

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Speaker 1: having you on the show. Tell everybody you know where

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Speaker 1: they can find you on social and the stuff you

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Speaker 1: have going on at the Ringer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely check out the Ringer dot com. Obviously a

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Speaker 2: lot of content coming out there. I write a power

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Speaker 2: rankings file every single week, also podcasting on The Ringer

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Speaker 2: NFL feed on Tuesdays and The Ringer Gambling Show being

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Speaker 2: on Wednesday's Thursdays. You can follow me on Twitter at

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Speaker 2: Houston Gale, a usc I n G, a Ylee Underscore,

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Speaker 2: Matthew always Pleasure. This was fantastic week time this week.

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Speaker 1: All right, awesome, that's Austin Gale. I'm Matthew Friedman at

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