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Speaker 2: It's the Fread Show. Sidney, Welcome to the show. How

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Speaker 2: are you hi?

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Speaker 3: I'm well?

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Speaker 1: How are you doing? Okay? What's going on with this guy?

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Speaker 3: Paul?

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Speaker 2: Tell us everything? How did you guys meet? Tell us

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Speaker 2: about any dates you've been on? And then why do

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Speaker 2: you think you're being ghosted?

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Speaker 3: Awesome? So Paul and I am at Little Bar a

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Speaker 3: few weekends ago.

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Speaker 4: We flirted all I gave him my number and he

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Speaker 4: asked me out for sushi.

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Speaker 3: So this is probably about our second third date. It

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Speaker 3: was fun, he seemed intriguing.

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Speaker 4: We had a great banter, and after our date, the

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Speaker 4: sushi date, he ended.

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Speaker 3: Up being cold to me.

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Speaker 4: I'm frustrated because I don't know why he was so

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Speaker 4: cold to me. And after that date he kind of

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Speaker 4: just disappeared. So I'm here to figure out why why

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Speaker 4: he goes to me. After our date, I thought it

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Speaker 4: went well. I'm really interested in him and I want

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Speaker 4: to know if we can go on the second date.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, because you met, you met in a while,

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Speaker 2: and we talk about this all the time. That matters, right,

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Speaker 2: If you meet somebody in person, that matters versus the

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Speaker 2: dating apps for the websites or whatever, because you can

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Speaker 2: gauge chemistry. You know what they look like, you know,

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Speaker 2: you know if you're instantly attracted to them. You already

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Speaker 2: know a little bit about the conversation and stuff, so

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Speaker 2: that's usually a good sign. And then you go on

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Speaker 2: a date and you can to spend more time together

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Speaker 2: and you felt genuinely you felt like that went well?

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Speaker 2: You like you're really puzzled.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, exactly. I'm really frustrated.

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Speaker 4: I'm really confused as to why he would just disappear,

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Speaker 4: and I'm even more confused as to why he looks

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Speaker 4: so cold to me.

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Speaker 3: We had great banter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's frustrating to you because when you finally meet

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Speaker 2: someone that you want to hang out with and then

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Speaker 2: for some reason they disappeared and you don't know why.

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Speaker 2: That's frustrating on a lot of levels. So let's call

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Speaker 2: this guy Paul. In just a second, Sydney. You'll be

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Speaker 2: on the phone at the same time, and I don't

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Speaker 2: want you to say anything right at first, but at

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Speaker 2: some point you're welcome to jump in on the call.

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Speaker 2: And the hope, as always is that we can figure

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Speaker 2: out what's going on. Hopefully it's he can explain it

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Speaker 2: and maybe he's been busy or who knows, and we'll

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Speaker 2: set you guys up on another date that we pay for.

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Speaker 1: Sound good, sounds great?

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Speaker 3: Thank you?

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Speaker 2: Hey, Sydney. Hi, all right, welcome back. Let's call this

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Speaker 2: guy Paul. You met actually out and exchange phone numbers

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Speaker 2: and then you went on a date. You went out

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Speaker 2: for sushi. You thought the date was fun. You know,

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Speaker 2: he was interesting, the banter was good. But he's been

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Speaker 2: very cold or non existent since the date. And you

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Speaker 2: want to know what happened, because you know, usually when

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Speaker 2: you meet someone out in public and hit it off

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Speaker 2: and then go on a date, and a date you

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Speaker 2: thought went well at that, it's like, well, why why

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Speaker 1: Why wouldn't we go out again? Right?

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Speaker 2: Let's call this guy and figure this out right now?

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Speaker 2: Good luck, Sydney, Thank you? Nop Is this Paul? Yes, hey, Paul,

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Speaker 2: good morning. My name is Fred. I'm calling for the

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Speaker 2: Fred Show, the morning radio show, and I have to

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Speaker 2: tell you that we are on the radio right now

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Speaker 2: and I would need your permission to continue with the call.

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Speaker 1: Can we chat for just a second? Would you mind?

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Speaker 5: Wait? What? Hold on?

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Speaker 1: What is that?

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Speaker 2: Can we just can we chat for a second on

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Speaker 2: the radio. I just need you to say yes on

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Speaker 2: the radio. I don't know, I guess okay, that's yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: thank you. So we're calling on behalf of a woman

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Speaker 2: named Sidney, who I guess you met out recently and

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Speaker 2: then you went on a sushi date with Do you

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Speaker 2: remember this woman.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, how do you know?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, because she reached out to us and told

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Speaker 2: us about you and meeting you and your date, and

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Speaker 2: she felt like everything went really well. But she says

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Speaker 2: that she hasn't you've been cold since the date or

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Speaker 2: non existent, and she feels like you're ghosting her after

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Speaker 2: what she thought was a great date. So is that true?

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Speaker 2: Ghost saying, I mean what happened? Ah man, that's a lot.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yes, I know. I mean, I'm not trying to ghost.

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Speaker 7: I just it was just a it was a weird date.

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Speaker 7: I'm going to be honest with you.

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Speaker 6: It's a weird date.

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Speaker 1: And I mean that you're You're right.

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Speaker 5: You're accurate.

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Speaker 6: What you said was true. We went out for sushi,

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Speaker 6: but it was just weird conversation. I guess, Okay, well

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Speaker 6: what does that mean? Oh well there's okay. Well I

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Speaker 6: was getting there Sydney, but Sydney is here. I'm sorry, Paul,

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Speaker 6: I forgot to mention. I totally forgot that she was

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Speaker 6: also on the phone. What was weird though? Because she

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Speaker 6: didn't think it was weird. She thought it was great,

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Speaker 6: So what was weird for you?

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Speaker 1: No, it was totally weird.

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Speaker 7: I was telling her, So, I'm helping out one of

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Speaker 7: my friends through like this really ugly, ugly breakup.

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Speaker 5: His ex causeec's cheating and he like walked in on it,

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Speaker 5: and so.

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Speaker 6: It's been really hard for my buddy, and so I've

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Speaker 6: been there for I'm telling her this story and she goes, oh,

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Speaker 6: like yeah, I.

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Speaker 5: Mean it's okay for for somebody to cheat in a relationship.

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Speaker 5: And I just wait, I said, wait what And she

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Speaker 5: just looks me dead the eye and says, well, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I mean men are.

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Speaker 1: Allowed to cheat.

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Speaker 5: My man's allowed to cheat as long as long as

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Speaker 5: he's respectful.

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Speaker 2: And she respect I'm like, how do I respectfully cheat?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess there's there's respectful boundaries or respectful

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Speaker 2: understanding of what is allowed in a relationship and what

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Speaker 2: is not. But inherently cheating is lying, yep, yep, yep.

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Speaker 7: And so I told her. She told me this, and

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Speaker 7: I just looked at her and I said, you're you're

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Speaker 7: describing like an open relationship or polyamory or something like that,

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Speaker 7: and I'm not into it. I think it's kind of

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Speaker 7: disrespectful for you to dismiss what happened to my friend.

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Speaker 5: And she was just adamant.

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Speaker 7: She goes, no, no, no, like she was fine, It's

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Speaker 7: just got to be respect.

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Speaker 5: She just kept saying respectful, respect, respectful respect. Okay, I

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Speaker 5: got it, I gotta get out of here.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me ask Sydney, why, how? What is respectful cheating?

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Speaker 4: I think all men cheat. I just don't want to

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Speaker 4: know about it. Respect for cheating to me is as

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Speaker 4: long as mine you know to me what you're doing.

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Speaker 4: I think that's fine.

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Speaker 2: That's fine. Let me just be clear, Sydney. If I'm

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Speaker 2: dating you, I'm respecting you by sleeping with other women

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Speaker 2: and not telling you about it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, who hurt you?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Like who hurt you? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't see a problem with it.

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Speaker 4: I think as long as you are doing what you

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Speaker 4: want to do in the relationship, that you don't tell

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Speaker 4: me anything about it, that's perfectly fine. I don't want

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Speaker 4: to know about it. I don't want to know about it.

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Speaker 4: But if you want to go out and have all

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Speaker 4: the fun, whether any type of woman you want to

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Speaker 4: go out and do that.

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Speaker 1: Don't forgot to tell me? Is this because lord? Is

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Speaker 1: this because you want to cheat?

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Speaker 2: Be like, is it that you want to be in

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Speaker 2: an open relationship, because just let's just call it what

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Speaker 2: it is, or I mean, why is if it's okay

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Speaker 2: for your partner, then is it okay for you?

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Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying?

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I am so.

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Speaker 1: Then why don't we just call this what it is?

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Speaker 1: It's an open relationship.

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Speaker 2: Why don't we just say from the beginning, like, you

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Speaker 2: want to see other people, you want your partner to

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Speaker 2: be able to see other people. Why are we calling

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Speaker 2: it cheating?

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Speaker 7: Then?

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Speaker 2: If this is what your expectation is of a relationship,

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Speaker 2: that both sides can be free, then that's I don't know,

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Speaker 2: that's not cheating respectfully, that's an open relationship. And I

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Speaker 2: realize I'm I'm labeling things here, but I mean, just

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Speaker 2: for the clarity, it doesn't really make sense what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: I think it's more fun to be ambiguous. I think

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Speaker 3: it's more fun to call.

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Speaker 4: It cheating respectively and do not have any labels whatsoever,

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Speaker 4: and then to go out and do what you'd like

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Speaker 4: and then not tell me about it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's the same way for me, though, I

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Speaker 3: could go out and do it if I want you.

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Speaker 5: I'm still on the phone too. Thanks, you're having the

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Speaker 5: same conversation with him that that you are having with me.

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Speaker 7: You are not listening, Like, first of all, if I'm

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Speaker 7: on the radio, can I just say I want to

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Speaker 7: make it clear, like.

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Speaker 5: Hello, Hello, I am not a cheater.

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Speaker 7: I don't cheat, and I like to go into a

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Speaker 7: relationship with saying I'm going to respect you by not

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Speaker 7: sleeping with a million other women while I'm seeing you.

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Speaker 7: And again like Sidney, you're you're just confused or maybe

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Speaker 7: you're hurt. I don't, I don't know, but you're you

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Speaker 7: looking for an open relationship, and I hope you find it.

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Speaker 7: I truly do. But you're not going to find it

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Speaker 7: with me. You'll probably find it with I don't know,

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Speaker 7: two or three other guys.

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Speaker 5: If I'm being completely honest.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's it's a relationship, Like it's not.

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Speaker 2: He's looking for a committed relationship. You're looking for an

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Speaker 2: open relationship. It's that simple. The sole cheating thing is

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Speaker 2: that like a fantasy of yours, Like are you into

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Speaker 2: the idea of someone sneaking around on you? Or does

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Speaker 2: that keep you on your toes like that you wonder

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Speaker 2: if someone's sneaking around on you?

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Speaker 3: That's what this it. Yeah, I definitely live for the

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Speaker 3: thrill of it.

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Speaker 4: I love the idea of it more than I would

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Speaker 4: say I would. I don't know what to think, but

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Speaker 4: I could say that if I'm going into a relationship

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Speaker 4: or as you were all saying, an open relationship, still

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't want anybody to tell me what's going on.

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Speaker 4: I still stand by the fact that all many cheat.

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Speaker 4: I just don't want to know about it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well he doesn't, and he's saying he wants a

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Speaker 1: Ky case at these people straight.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I'm here for her if she wants, if

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Speaker 8: she wants to live her life this way girl living.

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Speaker 8: But what you're going to get is a trip to

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Speaker 8: the clinic. Okay. If you don't want people to be

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Speaker 1: Doing, yeah, that's that's a that's a whole different.

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Speaker 8: Topic, is comdia.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like you're asking for problems here without

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Speaker 1: the transparency. And you got to know a city.

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Speaker 2: Look, you can live however you want to live and whatever,

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Speaker 2: you know, whatever gets your rocks off, good for you.

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Speaker 2: But you've got to understand a lot of people are

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Speaker 2: not going to be into that, like a lot of

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Speaker 2: people's definition of a relationship, and I'm not saying it's

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Speaker 2: right wrong, but I think most people's definition of a

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Speaker 2: committed relationship is one on one, not one on one

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Speaker 2: plus cheating.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's fair. I get that.

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Speaker 4: I honestly, I think I'm perfectly right in what I'm saying, ok,

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Speaker 4: And I'm going to stand by it.

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Speaker 1: I think you're probably right.

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Speaker 8: But a lot of people ever love to cheat on

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Speaker 8: you girl.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, it's not for Paul, and it's not

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Speaker 2: with that, and Sydney, there you have it. So he's

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Speaker 2: got into that, into those parameters. He wants something more traditional.

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Speaker 2: You want something different, and I hope that you find it.

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Speaker 2: I wish you the best of luck, Paul. I wish

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Speaker 2: you luck as well.

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Speaker 5: Thank you,