1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Sportsman's Nation podcast network powered by 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: Interstate Batteries from your truck to your trail camera. Interstate 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Batteries as you covered. Visit your local Interstate Batteries store 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: today or online at Interstate Batteries dot com. Interstate Batteries 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: Outrageously Dependable. My name is Clay Nukeleman. I'm the host 6 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: of the Bear Hunting Magazine podcast. I'll also be your 7 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: host into the world of hunting the icon of North 8 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: American wilderness, the bear. We'll talk about tactics, gear, conservation. 9 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: Wh will also bring you into some of the wildest 10 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: country on the planet. Chasing Battery. Thanks for listening to 11 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: the Bear Hunting Magazine Podcast. On this episode, I'm actually 12 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: in the blind hunting on the worth day of a 13 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: six day hunt, and my father in law, Steve Shultz, 14 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: is with me. Steve killed a deer on the first 15 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: day and he he talked He shares about his decision 16 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: to shoot that deer and also his regret that he 17 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: had taken the book so early in the hunt, and 18 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: we talked about what he had learned from this and 19 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: how to judge big Canadian white tails. We're the bear 20 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: Hunting Magazine podcast. But man, everybody that's hunting bear, including me, 21 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: we're hunting all kind of other critters. And I before 22 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: I was a bear hunter, I was a white tail hunter. 23 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: I love white tail hunting, and we know that most 24 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: of you do as well, and so we're gonna bringing 25 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: you some white tail content throughout this fall. Hey, check 26 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: out the podcast before this, which was our our recording 27 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: of Tom Ainsworth, the Outfitter, super neat Guy seventy years old. 28 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: And then the next podcast, which will be releasing a 29 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: few days, I'll talk about the end of my hunt 30 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: and what happened with me. Welcome to the Bear Hunting 31 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:09,119 Speaker 1: Magazine Podcast. It is November the onet and we are 32 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: in Manitoba. We're in not really central Manitoba. We're about 33 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: a third of the way up in western Manitoba, about 34 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 1: sixty miles forty miles from the Saskatchewan border, and as 35 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: we know it, about sixty miles from where Milo Hanson 36 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: killer World Record typical white tail in we are. We're 37 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: sitting in a blind right now. It's two o'clock in 38 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: the afternoon. We're in what Tom calls the shack. We're 39 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: in kind of a building and We're sitting on the 40 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: edge of a cut soybean field and we're hunting. So 41 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna bring this podcast to you throughout this hunt, 42 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about a few specific things, but 43 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: we're also going to try to just we're gonna set 44 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: the context and we're gonna just talk about how we're 45 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: hunting up here and what we're doing. But it is 46 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: first of all, let me just say, I've got my 47 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: father in law, Steve Schultz, in the blind with me 48 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: right now and he's filming for me. He's also letting 49 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: me borrow his muzzleloader, and I'm gonna talk a little 50 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: bit about why I'm shooting that muzzleloader. But to begin with, 51 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: let me set the context for why we're hunting here. 52 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: This is the fourth day of a sixth day hunt, 53 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: and we have Steve killed a deer and he's going 54 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: to talk about that. James Lawrence, our other buddy that's here, 55 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: killed a deer on the second day, and James killed 56 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: his buck on the field that we're sitting in right now. 57 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: This field is a cut soybean field. That was it. 58 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: They insured the crop and they made an insure claim 59 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: on these soybeans because of elk. So up here in 60 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: Manitoba they've got elk, moose, white tail, and they've got 61 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: all kinds of critters. The elk destroyed the soybeans in 62 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: this field. I don't know how big this field is, Steve, 63 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: how big is this field? Oh, this thing probably is 64 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: somewhere in the neighborhood of I would say close to 65 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: it's big. It's big. It's a it's six yards to 66 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: the very edge that the furthest place, we can see 67 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: a six hundred yards and then we've got a three 68 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: thirty yards shot one direction. It's big. And so they 69 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: because they made an insurance claim on this field, they 70 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:48,799 Speaker 1: harvested it at a time when when the combine came through, 71 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: the beans shattered, as they say. And so there's a 72 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: ton of beans on the ground right now in this field, 73 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,559 Speaker 1: and the deer hitting it pretty hard. James aren't sitting 74 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: here the other night, and he didn't see, you know, 75 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: forty deer in this field. It's more like he probably 76 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: saw less than ten. But he saw two mature bucks 77 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: and he took one of them. And old James, he says, 78 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: he didn't even look at the other one. He's just 79 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: the one gave him a shot and he was like, 80 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: that's the one I want. So he didn't even look 81 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: at the other one. So now and it he didn't 82 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: have much time to make a decision, and this deer 83 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: popped out and he was he was like, that's the 84 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: one I want to take home, and so he shot it. 85 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: And so there's a mystery buck over here. We don't 86 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: know how big it is, so we're hoping that it's 87 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: a it's a shooter deer. So we are here in 88 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: the blind and right now it's half rain, half snow 89 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: where we've got a weather change that's coming on and 90 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: there's project to be between one and three inches of 91 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: snow tonight. It's been warm first day we got here. 92 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: How warm was it, Steve? Do you remember it was 93 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: probably uh, probably forty forty one, I think something like that. 94 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: It may have even been in the high forties. But 95 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: that first day, because remember I hunted in like a 96 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: single layer. I was wearing my first light. Um, yeah, 97 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: what was it, Choma something? Yeah, and your Andrew swimming 98 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: trunks were on. Yeah, I had my swimming trunks on. 99 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: That's right. It was warm for Canada. Uh. So anyway, 100 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: the weather is changing it's about thirty three degrees. So Steve, 101 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: last year, this is our second year to hunt with 102 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: Tom ains Worth Grandview Outfitting. A little history on Tom. 103 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: Tom was a long time bear hunting magazine outfitter, I 104 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: mean long time bear hunting outfitter. He sold his bare 105 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: business to Todd Wogelmuth of Baldy Mountain Outfitters. So now 106 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: what used to be Tom's bear hunting outfit is now 107 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: Baldy Mountain Outfitters run by a younger fella, good guy 108 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: named named Todd Waldmuth. But Tom kept his deer tags. 109 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: So Tom's an outfitter. I think Tom has, like I 110 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: don't want to say how many tags he has, I 111 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: don't know for sure, a select number of deer tags 112 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: that he can sell. And so last year we came 113 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: up here, you and I and now Steve. Well, first 114 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: of all, Steve, Steve is not just my father in law. 115 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: Steve and I have been I mean close for the 116 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: last well since we met each other eighteen years ago, 117 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: and we've hunted all over, We've served together on our um. 118 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: Steve's the senior leader of our church, and so we've 119 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: we've anyway, we've got a lot of history together. But 120 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: we have a rich history in hunting together and Arkhan's 121 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: saw I mean when Steve's killed a ton of deer 122 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: there in northwest Arkansas. We live about as the crow 123 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: flies a mile and a half apart, and so we've 124 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: done a lot of hunting together half and so last year. 125 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: So give a little history of your hunting, Steve, that 126 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: will lead us up to come into Manitoba last year. Well, 127 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: my I started my hunting background really was up in 128 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: upstate New York. I was moved there when I was 129 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: a small My family did when I was a small boy, 130 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: and uh, I went through high school there and one 131 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: year of college in upstate New York. That's where I 132 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: really got the itch for a white tail deer. As 133 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, that was the big game animal 134 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: for New York State. And uh I had I had 135 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: nobody in my family that really hunted my brotherhood a 136 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: little bit, but I didn't. I was the main hunter 137 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: of the family. Um in the springtime, when everybody else 138 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: was playing either tennis or track or baseball, I was. 139 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: I was out fishing or my dad wasn't a hunter. 140 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: And uh, but I got the bug one time when 141 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: I shot a groundhog, and when I did that, it 142 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: was like I felt like I found something I really enjoyed. 143 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: So growing up there, I always had this quest for 144 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: white tail. Didn't know anything at that time. I'm sixty 145 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 1: six years old now. At that time, back in the 146 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: nineteen sixties, there was two magazines primarily maybe three that 147 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: would deal dealt with anything to do with hunting outdoor 148 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: life of course and field and Stream, and then there 149 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: was another one called for fishing Game, the Glory Days 150 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: of Print magazine. It was the Glory Days. There's a 151 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: company called Herders. Some of the old timers remember coming 152 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: name Herders that you could even buy at that time. 153 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: You could buy handguns and rifles right directly from him 154 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: and ship to ship them to your door shipping right. 155 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna start doing that with Bare Hunting magazine. There 156 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: you go. I recommend you do that. And uh so 157 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: those were the early years, and that sparked something to me. 158 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: Although I didn't have a mentor, and I really learned 159 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: a lot at that time just by trial and air, 160 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: and I'd have to say most of it was there, 161 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: and a whole lot of trials to go along with it. 162 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: But then I moved to Florida when I was twenty 163 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: one years old and worked worked in Florida and was 164 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: there for a number of years, over twenty years I did. 165 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: That's where I really started to learn how to to 166 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: white tail hunt. But of course you're not going to 167 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: find the white tail near the size of Florida that 168 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: you do here in Manitoba or even in Arkansas for 169 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: that matter. And but I did have some guys that 170 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: hunted with learned a lot from him and killed quite 171 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: a few deer down there and UH. And then of 172 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: course through the years, I just started hunting different places. 173 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: I traveled a lot, so I think I white tail 174 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: hunted somewhere around sixteen or seventeen different states and UH. 175 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: And I just would hunt here and there, and when 176 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: I traveled internet slee I hunted some in Australia. UM. 177 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: Hunted Africa six or seven times, UM, but most of 178 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: that was with friends. I didn't pay an outfitter. I 179 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: knew people over there. I've been to Africa many many 180 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: times where I didn't hunt and UH. But the quest, 181 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: and leading up to this trip in Manitoba, the quest 182 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: has always been for a larger deer. UM. I've shot 183 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: a lot of one in thirty one forty class, dear, 184 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: but I've never broken the one park and uh, to me, 185 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: that's kind of the holy grail to step up to 186 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: another level of deer. Yeah. And so we we planned 187 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: to hunt last year and we hunted here and it 188 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 1: was a It was a great hunt. And white tail 189 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: has been even though you, I mean, Steve's taken lots 190 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: of African game, He's taken lots of stuff out West, 191 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: the little Deer and ante Lope and od Dad and Texas, 192 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: just lots of different things. White Tails, you're number one time, Yeah, 193 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: still the number one bear hunted with me in Quebec 194 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: and British Columbia, in Arkansas and Arkansas. Yeah, white Tail 195 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: to me are still one of the most particularly the 196 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: particularly those that make it past the four to five 197 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: year range are the most crafty, most most skilled animals 198 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: of evasive invading human beings that I've seen. So when 199 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: people in Africa asked me would you like to come 200 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: back and shoot something, I say not really, I mean 201 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: my dream would be to continue to own Yeah. Honed 202 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: it down to one thing, white tail and particularly trying 203 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: to find a large white tail. So and I still shoot. 204 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: I mean, um, I've already taken one white tail in 205 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: Arkansas this year that, uh I was I was very 206 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: pleased with. But coming up to Manitoba is like stepping 207 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: stepping the game up to a whole another level. Here, 208 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: animals are just so much as we know, so much 209 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: larger and and the potential for a hundred fifty two 210 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: inch of years is increased, increase considerably considerate. But as 211 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: we know, the big ones don't grow on trees and 212 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: they don't come easy either. So so last year I 213 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: came and uh we had a good, good trip. I 214 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: was put on a particular of falfa field and I 215 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: think it was the second morning of the hunt. I 216 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: heard some bucks rattling in the corner of the field, 217 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: and probably about two dred yards from me. It was 218 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 1: not light enough to really see. Let me stop, you 219 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: right there, you you uh you described those horn solets, 220 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: so you can imagine let me even stop, let me 221 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: even go back further than that. Coming to Manitoba, for 222 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: both of us, it's like something we never really thought 223 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: would happen. I mean, my upbringing into the white tail 224 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: world was in the nineties. I mean, I was a 225 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: twelve year old kid reading North American white tail. You know, 226 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: my dad was a white tail hunter in Canada. Was 227 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: like the place to go in the world for big 228 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: white tails. And and now years later, really it's the Midwest. 229 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: It's our Kansas, northern Missouri. I mean, it's kind of 230 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: shifted to some degree in terms of where a lot 231 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: of the really big deer coming from Kentucky, Wisconsin. But 232 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: but still this is an iconic place to white tails. 233 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: So me and you coming up here was like, I mean, 234 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: we were like five and fist bumping, a dream come true. 235 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: It really was, Yeah, for sure. Yeah, And I think 236 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: last year a matter of fact, we were so excited 237 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: we drove straight through up here. We drove straight through 238 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: from northwest Arkansas. And so that brings us to what 239 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: the story you were about to tell about the second 240 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: day in the blind, sitting over the south fi Ful field, 241 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: and you described to me it was in the dark, 242 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: so we're waiting for it to get light, and you 243 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: hear just like horns crashing. That was different. It was different. 244 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: I mean, we're in north I'm used to having, you know, 245 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: hearing bucks rattling in the woods and normally talking a 246 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: hundred probably hundred bucks where they the sound is more 247 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: of like a clack clack clack. But I heard these. 248 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: I could hear these, dear. I couldn't see him yet, 249 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: but I could hear him, and it sounded like someone 250 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: taking two by four's and and and bumping them together. 251 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: It was more of a deeper residence in the horn, 252 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: and I realized, there's something with some something volumes circumference. Yeah, 253 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: it's more like a boying boy rather than a clack 254 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: clack clack. Well, that broked my interest until the sun 255 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: came up and I was able to before they walked 256 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: off the field and went over a hill, I was 257 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: able to get a glimpse of both of them. And 258 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: one was a big on Eastern count he was a 259 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: big eight pointer and on the other one he was 260 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: this Eastern counting bear Honey Magazine podcast We go with 261 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: four point he was he was an eight, and the 262 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: other one was at ten. And the tin had rich, dark, 263 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: dark brown chocolate horns. Oh, just something you do a 264 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: dream about. And the eight was no slouch because he 265 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: was wider than the tin. But the tin had mass. 266 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: He had good time length. Uh, he had good beam 267 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: length on his main beams. And I watched him for 268 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: a little while before they got out of range. I 269 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: was using her I was using a muzzleloader, but I 270 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: didn't I probably had a maximum two hundred yard range 271 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: I felt comfortable with at that time with that particular rifle, 272 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: so I didn't have a shot early in the morning. 273 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: They were they were about two They're about two hundred 274 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: and moving away from when I really got a good 275 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: look at the horns. So anyway, he sat there for 276 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: another hour and and what happened was the big ten 277 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: point and decided to come back the same way he 278 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: went on the field. And I saw him coming back, 279 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: and I arranged and came up with a hundred and 280 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: eighty eight yards and put the cross ears, got the 281 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: gun out. They got that gun situated correctly, and I 282 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 1: knew where I was going to aim, and I had 283 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: the rifle sided in for two hundred as a matter 284 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: of fact, and so uh he stopped. He was eighty 285 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 1: eight yards broadside, and I thought, I'm going to fulfill 286 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: the dream of a lifetime. This is it, this is 287 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: the moment you've been waiting forty something years for. And 288 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: I took the safety off, squeeze that trigger, and all 289 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: I heard was the primer go off. Pop. That's all 290 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: I heard. And for of course, my mind was expecting 291 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: a boom. I was expecting, you know, some recoil and 292 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: for a second there, my mind was like frozen as 293 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: to what in the world happened here? And so that 294 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: so I was to say I was disappointed would be 295 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: an understatement, because there was no way to reload the gun. 296 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: I I mean, it just wasn't gonna happen. It pushed 297 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: your bullet like six or eight inches down the barrel. 298 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: That's corrected, moved my bullet down the barrel, the bullet out, 299 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: couldn't get some powder in, couldn't put more powder in. 300 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I was stuck only to watch that buck 301 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: saunter off the field as if I was never there. 302 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: Let's just take a moment of silence right now on 303 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: the podcast. Okay, that's good. This is like an iconic 304 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: story between Steve and I. We don't we don't tell 305 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: it unless reverent ears listen. Yeah, absolutely, hush on the crowd. 306 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: I have a feeling we're bringing a few tears to 307 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: people's eyes, don't you. People are crying right now. They 308 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: probably because they experienced the same thing at one time 309 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: or another. But the issue with the with the issue 310 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: with the with the rifle was the fact that the 311 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: night before the weather had turned cold, and I had 312 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: my rifle loaded. I took the primer ound and I 313 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: put the rifle in the truck, and apparently there was 314 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: enough heat in the truck that created moisture inside the 315 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: chamber because the next day, of course, after having the misfire, 316 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: I tried another primer. It still did not fire. I 317 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: was able then to realize that the bullet was right 318 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: at the end of the barrel. I took the breech 319 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: plug out, pushed everything out, and when I did, the 320 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: powder came out of my hand and it was literally 321 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: soaking bush. And uh, I'm not shooting black podder. I'm 322 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: actually shooting smokeless powder muzzleloader. And uh so I'm shooting 323 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 1: I MR And uh it just came out wet. So 324 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: I knew what the problem was, so I vowed bringing 325 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: us well. I hunted for four more days last year. 326 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: Um I saw one other buck, but just could not 327 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: get a shot on him. When I was squeezing the trigger, 328 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: he went behind a pine tree and he never came 329 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: back out. And I saw your buck. I was not 330 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: with you when the gun misfired. The next morning, I 331 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: had already killed the du And so the next morning 332 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: I went scouting for Steve, sitting in a blind on 333 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: the other side of the field, and I had the 334 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: the buck that Steve was shooting at, and the eight 335 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: point walked within a hundred yards of me, and they 336 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: were they were all he said, they were. I mean, 337 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: you know, fifty plus ten point, just what we were after. Yeah, 338 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: big huge body, big big, huge neck on him. And 339 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 1: of course that added insult to injury. I was because 340 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 1: Clay had taken the video camera that morning and he 341 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: was actually able to record some footage of that buck 342 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: for me, and it seemed like it was gonna be 343 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: easy after that. I mean, it's like it's just a 344 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: matter of time. We'll get back on him. Yeah, and 345 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: and he just he just never he just disappeared. I 346 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: sat there number more nights and mornings and we never 347 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: did see him reappear. And so last year I went 348 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: home with an unfilled tag based on that, and that 349 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: leads U up to this hunt this year. And of 350 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: course Clay took a very nice buck with his bowl 351 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: last year here and uh, and that that spurred me 352 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: even more, and Uh I decided to come back with 353 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: Clay again for a second time, with high hopes, tremendously 354 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: high hopes that I might even see that same buck again, 355 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: but this year we'd even be bigger. But yeah, anyway, 356 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: that led us to come in here talk about what 357 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: the caliber of deer that we're hunting here. You know. 358 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: So last year we came and basically by the end 359 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: of day two I had killed a hundred and fifty 360 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: two inch buck with my bow and Steve had shot 361 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,959 Speaker 1: at misfired at what we believe was a hundred and 362 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: fifty plus buck. Maybe maybe bigger, we don't know those 363 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: big ten points with bodies like that, or he could 364 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: have been one sixty about as easy. So we were like, Wow, 365 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: this is this is the place. This place has got 366 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: some big deer. And you know, Tom tom Ainsworth what 367 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: a guy. Tom seventy years old and he he has 368 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,959 Speaker 1: thousands of acres. That's not an exaggeration that he can 369 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: hunt much of it. He owns big crop land. I 370 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: described on the podcast the last podcast that we did. 371 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is big agg country. I mean, 372 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: this is uh where they're growing canola. Soybeans, oats and 373 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: wheat and flax and the and the deer eat almost 374 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: all of it. Lots of alfalfa too, so it's kind 375 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: of it's I would say it's similar to Iowa, except 376 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: for the trees are different. There's a lot of spruce 377 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: and a lot of poplar, and other than that, I mean, 378 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: it would be similar to like hunting somewhere like Iowa, 379 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: except I'm not sure that these there's not more agriculture 380 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: here than even in the country of Eyewa. I don't know, 381 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: just huge I mean whole sections, you know, six acre 382 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: sections that basically don't have trees, and you know, just 383 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: along the a single tree along the creeks, maybe somebody, 384 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: I mean big agg and so up here, the deer 385 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: densities are not extremely high. That being said, you know, 386 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: you can hunt in the evening and see two or 387 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: three deer, or you know, James has been looking out 388 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: behind Tom's house in South afa Field and seeing thirty 389 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: deer at night. So you're seeing dere just about every 390 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: time you sit, for sure. But so we last year 391 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: like we were both gonna come home with er and 392 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: that was just phenomenal. The weather was great last year, 393 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: or too though high temperature rarely got over thirty two, 394 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: I mean it was it stayed cold the whole time. 395 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: The deer really keyed in on the alfalfa, and they 396 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: just don't seem to be this year. And I'm bo hunting, 397 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: and the reason ut for me to successfully bow hunt 398 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: this property, at least with the knowledge that I have 399 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: right now, I really needed those I needed mature bucks 400 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: to be keying in on two alf alfha fields because 401 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: I felt like I could set up bow stands to 402 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: catch the deer coming off. There just aren't mature deer 403 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: right now on those South Alpha fields. So my bow 404 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: hunting plans were kind of thrown off. And so we're 405 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: doing it. Do two things. I'm gonna tell you how 406 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: I got to where I'm at, and then we're gonna 407 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: go back, and I'm gonna Steve's gonna talk about his 408 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: hunt this year. The the so we so so right 409 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: now that the deer weren't keying in on the alf 410 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: alfa too much, and uh, um, well shucks, I'm trying 411 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: to decide where to go from here. Um cut cut. 412 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: Now we're also looking for deer. Steve and I are 413 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: bobbing our heads around looking through these windows looking for deer. 414 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: The windows are fogging up just a little bit in here. 415 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: But but so anyway, we come into this hunt and 416 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: you never know really what to expect that warmer temperatures, 417 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: and then we've struggled this year to see the big deer. 418 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: I mean, we kind of thought like maybe just it 419 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: was gonna be pretty easy to get on a hundred 420 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: and fifty inch type of deer, but this year we've 421 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: just not seen them. And Okay, this is where I 422 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: was gonna go. The rut is different here. It's November 423 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: the first back home, it's like prime time rut in Arkansas. 424 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: I mean, right now, if I could pick a day 425 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: to hunt, man November one through the seventh, Holy Cow, 426 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: they're responding to calls, bucks are cruising. I mean, it's 427 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: showtime right now. The bucks are still grouped up, they're 428 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: not responding to calls. It's kind of like the rut 429 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: is dead in these northern latitudes. It's seems like the 430 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: rut is so compressed because fond survival has to be 431 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: so precisely timed well, the timing of breeding has to 432 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: be so precisely time for good fond survival that the 433 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: rut is just compressed now. Granted it must be crazy 434 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: about ten days from now, even a week from now. 435 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: I wish we were here ten days from now. Sure, 436 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: yeah we're not. We're not seeing the bucks cruised by 437 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: themselves too much. They're not up during the day running 438 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: around just just eating and and if they're full, they're not. 439 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: They're not getting there, just staying on their beds where 440 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: we just haven't seen them like we did. So the 441 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: big deer here, we're just not seeing them. I mean, 442 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: we're just seeing younger deer really, but we know the 443 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: big ones are here, and uh, it's just one of 444 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: those years. We're probably a week probably a week off 445 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: of probably prime time here that we'll be able to 446 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: make it. But so we're making the best we can 447 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: out of out of what we've been the hand we've 448 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: been dealt. And uh, I was very fortunate on the 449 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: on the first morning that I hunted, I we hunted here, 450 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: got here in the afternoon, early afternoon, got on stand 451 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: the first night, didn't see too much nobody did. I 452 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: was out the next morning. And let me set the 453 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: let me set the stage for this. Tom. Tom puts 454 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: a few trail cameras up for us here. But also 455 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: he's driving these roads around these fields and these woodlots 456 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: and this area, and he has a pretty good idea 457 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: of you know, pretty good idea of what's on the 458 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,719 Speaker 1: what's on some areas of his land. So he normally 459 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,959 Speaker 1: accuses in every time that we come. Yeah, and uh, 460 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: this particular time, he said that the particular field he 461 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: was gonna put me on was the same field that 462 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: I hunted last year where I had the misfire, And 463 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: I was kind of looking forward to, quite honestly, going 464 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: back to that same field and having a little bit 465 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: of revenge. Now let me open the same book would 466 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: be I was hoping, and he would be bigger. Now 467 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: let me say this that in the between last year 468 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: and this year, one of the things I decided to 469 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 1: do because of the misfire was I decided to have 470 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: my Savage bolt action muzzleloader, uh which Savage no longer makes. 471 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: I decided to have it rebarreled for a little bit 472 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: longer range and to have it restocked. I wanted to 473 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: be able to reach out to yards if I wanted 474 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: to with a muzzleloader, and uh so I came prepared 475 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: this year you were prepared. I I I scraped and 476 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: saved and put the money together and sent the rifle 477 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: away and sent it up to a a guy named 478 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: Luke um and uh Arrowhead Sporting Goods up in Iowa. 479 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: He builds a long range muzzleloader, does an excellent job 480 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: on it with a muzzle break. And so I came. 481 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: I came for revenge. So I'm sitting in the same spot. Um, 482 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: and that's when this year I didn't see a deer 483 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: come out and go over the hill. This time he 484 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,719 Speaker 1: just came over the hill and he was walking almost 485 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: the identical path that the deer had walked before. Now, 486 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: the thing about these deer clay as you know. First 487 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: of all, Tom had already told us that he's there 488 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: was a bus driver with a bus route saying that 489 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: they had been seeing a big, big buck right there. 490 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: And um, so it sounded like, well, he's may be 491 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: pretty patterned of as we know, the school buses going 492 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: every morning, five days a week. So over the hill 493 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: comes this buck and I've probably fifteen minutes after legal 494 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: shooting light. I can make out horns. I could see 495 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: him pretty good, and uh, he's coming, and he's walking 496 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: steady so I immediately get the binoculars on him, and 497 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: I determined, well, he looks like a five by five 498 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: from what I could tell, But I can only see 499 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: one side of him because he's at he's on my 500 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: far left hand side, and he's walking facing kind of 501 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: uh facing to my further to my left, walking bike 502 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: from the front of me to the back of me, 503 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: and so I so I was looking at him and 504 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: and uh, what happened was when he finally got where 505 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: I could see him well enough that I thought, well, 506 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: he could be a shooter. It was I had about 507 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: four seconds to make the decision because he couldn't get 508 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: him to stop. And I'm sure a lot of guys 509 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: have had that happened where you you know, and they 510 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: just keep walking and the that's again, the bucks here 511 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: are not in rut. So he really wasn't interested in 512 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: a dough bleat or I don't anything. So I tried 513 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: a couple of times. He kept walking, and I realized, 514 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm about to run out of real estate because he's 515 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: about to walk off the field and now he here's 516 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: the here's the challenge. I was trying to make a 517 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: split second decision on what appeared to be a five 518 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,719 Speaker 1: by five. And we had been talking all week about 519 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: how these deer their racks look smaller because they're so big, 520 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: so big, and I was, I mean, the whole trip 521 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: up here, we're talking about Judge and deer with James, 522 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: and and you know last year the DFT buck that 523 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: I killed. When I first saw him, I was kind 524 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: of unimpressed with him. I thought he's a hundred and 525 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: thirty five inch deer and so, but he turned out 526 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: to be one fifties. So it's like, hey, these these 527 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: bodies make the horns look small. So that's in your 528 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: mind as we've been talking about that for a year. 529 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: So you see a four, you see a five point 530 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: side the bucks in the same spot as the one 531 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: last year. Everything's the same, everything's the same. He's been 532 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: talking about sitting in that blind for for twelve months. 533 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: I've been dreaming about sitting in that plane, hanging out 534 00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: the window. And here we go, and I I looked 535 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: at him and I thought, well, I thought to myself, Okay, 536 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: I know he's not a one seventy, but I think 537 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: maybe this buck could do one fifty. And I thought 538 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: I'd be satisfied with that. I'm not going to try 539 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: to get two two pigs year and uh and uh. 540 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: So I went ahead and I had two seconds to 541 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: make that decision. I'm thinking in my mind, one of 542 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: the things that Tom's wife said the night before is 543 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: don't shoot any you know, don't pass up anything on 544 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: the first day. You would shoot the last day. And 545 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: you know they that's that's been said a lot. And 546 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: I thought, well, you know, if I was just the 547 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: last day, I definitely would shoot this deer. So I 548 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: went ahead and shot, and uh and uh. I heard 549 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: the bullet. I even saw the bullet hit him. He 550 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: was he was two hundred yards away and broadside but 551 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: walking slowly. Shot And then of course later when we 552 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: went to recover him, he only went about five yards 553 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: and we went to recover him, and uh, the infamous 554 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: ground shrinkage took over, which is something I've been familiar 555 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: with for many years. And you're always hoping or imagining 556 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: your something is bigger than what you actually think it is. 557 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: We're hoping for a ground swell. Yeah, exactly, all we 558 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: got was ground shrinkage. Yeah. So, I mean, but at 559 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: the same time, of course, it's enjoyable being up here, 560 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: and I mean and you you know you're gonna this 561 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: is hunting. Nothing is an exact science. Animals will always 562 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: behave differently than you think they will. You're dealing with 563 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: a whole set of factors that are uncontrollable. And for 564 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: me this trip, it was like I was determined I 565 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: was gonna wait until the right buck. But being in 566 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: that same location with a five point dark horn, it 567 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: just looked like it was a replay of the year 568 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: before until I actually found the deer and really I 569 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: realized he was a five by four. Uh you know 570 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: he did wasn't a by five. I couldn't see the 571 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: other side real well. Actually he's Uh, if you were 572 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: to take that beer that that set that rack, put 573 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: some steroids on it, and let us swell up a 574 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: little bit, it would be a very nice rack. He 575 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 1: had all he had, all the stuff, didn't he He 576 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: just was just a younger deer. You know, I'm thinking, 577 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: but they're big though. I mean even this deer we 578 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: weighed James Lawrences deer and it weighed tune or fifty pounds, 579 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: And I mean your deer was just not smaller than 580 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: that embodied side. So this was probably a tuner pound deer. 581 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: He's a big, big body deer for sure. And that's 582 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: another thing that kind of messed me up is I'm thinking, well, 583 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: big deer, that the racks look a little smaller. So 584 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: so you know what I hated for you is that 585 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: it happened on the first day, you know, Yeah, because 586 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: Steve's been just hanging out at camp while we're hunting, 587 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: and I know how much he's been looking forward to 588 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,760 Speaker 1: this hunt. So that's the part that kind of stinks, 589 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: is that he filled his tag early and so I didn't. 590 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: I didn't just hadn't got the hunt. He's nothing with 591 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: me today. But yeah, that's that's why they call it hunting, 592 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: not shooting. Yeah, I'm I'm glad to be here. So 593 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: the quest continues, that the quest will killing. The good 594 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: thing about this is you don't get to quit now. Yeah, everybody, 595 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: everybody is always like, if you killed the deer like that, 596 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: I'd quit. Man, If I killed the deer like that 597 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: quote air quotes unquote, I think it would just make 598 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: you want to go more. I probably wouldn't mean too 599 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: but you know, you always you always think, you know, 600 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: get the big one and you're done, particularly the older 601 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: in life. You get You're like, you know, how many 602 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: more years can I keep doing this? I've done it 603 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: for every so many years. But well, you enjoy doing it, 604 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: so I think even if you shot a big one, 605 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: it's something you really thoroughly enjoy. You just keep doing it. 606 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: But it's just fun to be here. I mean, for 607 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: where we're at in Arkansas, coming up here is like 608 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: hunting a different planet. Flat country, farm country. I mean 609 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: we're in the Ozark Mountains. We got we can't see 610 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 1: more than fifty yards in any direction unless we're setting 611 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: on the edge of a field, a man made field. 612 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 1: I mean, it's thick, it's mountainous, it's rugged. You know. 613 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: We do have some good deer in northwest Arkansas, and 614 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 1: the occasional guy will kill d and you know, one 615 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: in a lifetime if he's lucky. I mean, there are 616 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 1: a good deer where we are, but it's not common. 617 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,280 Speaker 1: It's not common, you know, not common at all. Average 618 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: average a good shooter buck that somebody would mount where 619 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: we're from a hundred twenty inches. Most guys go a 620 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: hundred buck. They are like going to the text turmists. Truthfully, 621 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: average guys, it's a tax two dermist Paradise. Yeah, yeah, 622 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: there was a that's that's a funny funny you say that. 623 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: You remember there was a guy there and Winslow that 624 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: had a text Germany shop. Did real good move to Iowa? 625 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: He said, they don't mountain deer like we do in Arkansas. 626 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: Everybody in Arkansas mounts all these little deer that they 627 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,439 Speaker 1: kill all the time. He said, Oh man, they don't 628 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: mount one unless it is a hundred and sixty. So 629 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: I think he struggled a little bit. He's got to 630 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: come back to Arkansas to get little ones, take him 631 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: back to Iowa to mount him, and then comes back 632 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: down here. So yeah, yeah, we're a tax service Paradise. 633 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,439 Speaker 1: There's a text service on every corner. Man. I hope 634 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: it stays that way. That's good. Oh so what I mean, 635 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: what would you what did you would you learn? What 636 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: would you do different? How will what we will? It's 637 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: always a hard call. But I think probably the biggest 638 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: thing was I should have passed on the buck because 639 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: it was the first of the first full day of hunting, 640 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: the first morning, and and as tempting as that was, 641 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: I should have just I should have passed on it. 642 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: And this a decision window was too short. The decision 643 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 1: window was too short that Buck never turned and faced me. 644 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: I never got a good I was neighbor able to 645 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:04,240 Speaker 1: really fully really you were able to give him about assessment. 646 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: That's when you really needed about assessment. Yeah, because he's 647 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: about the buffer bar needed to get to eighty before 648 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: you knew for sure what you're shooting. Absolutely, you know, 649 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 1: and they always say up here, well you'll know the 650 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: big ones, you know, they'll stand out, And that's true. 651 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: But I was I was willing to just break the 652 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: one fifty is what I was shooting for. I thought 653 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,919 Speaker 1: that would be a good start. Let's go for that. 654 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: I'm not going to try to try to go for 655 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: a one sixty or one seventy. So that was probably 656 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: the biggest takeaway is it's like, wait a minute, if 657 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 1: I had to do it again, you know what I 658 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: would have I would have passed for sure. The second 659 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,439 Speaker 1: thing was I would have said, wait about any deer 660 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 1: that doesn't up here, doesn't give me an opportunity unless 661 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: it really stands out as a very very exceptional good dear, um, 662 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 1: don't rush to judgment, you know, don't give him the 663 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: opportunity to stand in front of you, or at least 664 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: walk on a long enough way that you can get 665 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: a good look, get both sides of the rack. And uh, 666 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: that's what But that's what the deer have been doing 667 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: this year here, uh with James, with you, with me. Uh. 668 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: The deer just aren't coming out and just feeding. There 669 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: seemed to be just when they are, they're moving, but 670 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: they're not moving a lot. But every time we've seen them, 671 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: they seem to be on a steady, steady journey somewhere. Yeah. 672 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: So so that was the big takeaway from this year, 673 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: and it shows you. I don't care how old you 674 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,359 Speaker 1: get and how many years you've hunted and how many 675 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,439 Speaker 1: how many times you've pulled the trigger, You're always gonna 676 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,839 Speaker 1: learn something new every time you go. Yeah, well, we're 677 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 1: all subject to make an error and judgment at any 678 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: time and then and come into a totally new place 679 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: with different body sized animals. It really is, it really 680 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 1: is tricky. But hey, at least you got the chance 681 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: to make that mistake. How many white tail hunters have 682 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: dreamed about coming to Manitoba, Canada and you've had some 683 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: kind of poor poor I don't looks the wrong word, 684 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: but you know, misfire and then and I mean, you 685 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: killed the nice dear. But for where we're at, it 686 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: really wasn't what you came for now, but what you 687 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: came for, and so that's what kind of stinks about it. 688 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: But hopefully we'll get to come back there. You go. Well, 689 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: as they say, there's three parts to a hunt. You know, 690 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: there's the pre hunt where you dream about it for 691 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: eleven months, which we did. We probably like at least 692 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: bi weekly twelve months and they talked about this hunt. 693 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: Then there's actual hunt time, and that's what anywhere from 694 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: two to three maybe five day hunt, six day hunt 695 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,879 Speaker 1: usually maximum. So that's enjoyable. But then then obviously there's 696 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: the post hunt. The post you know, and you do 697 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 1: one of two things. In the post hunt, you either 698 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 1: celebrate the great success and chance that you had or 699 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,479 Speaker 1: if you don't do too well, you celebrate the fact 700 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 1: that you had another learning curve in your life. Yeah, 701 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: and what I've seen you do all these years, when 702 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: something goes wrong or you want to see something different, 703 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: you go you take action, just like last year. I mean, man, 704 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: you didn't wait a week before you were sending that 705 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: muzzle loader off to be redone and ready to real 706 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: I mean, so you didn't just say I had a 707 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: faulty muzzloader. You you took action, okay to amend the situation. Yep, yep, yeah, 708 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 1: I And uh my thing was, well, I knew, I 709 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: knew the how big these fields were, and I realized, boy, 710 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: this one is big. Steve. I'm using Steve's muzzloader tonight. 711 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: Uh he's let me borrow it. And I may have 712 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 1: already said this, but I've I pretty much have decided 713 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 1: that a bow hunt for this year is gonna be 714 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: really low odds. Last year it was good odds for 715 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,320 Speaker 1: a bow kill buck and I did it. I really 716 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 1: wanted to do it again this year, but I just 717 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: I just don't know with the feeding patterns east deer on. 718 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: And that's a good thing about coming during muzzloader season 719 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: in bow hunting is that I can make an adjustment. 720 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: And uh so that's what I'm doing. So I'm we're 721 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,280 Speaker 1: we're looking. Wow, we can see six hundred yards across 722 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 1: this field. Leaf yet to see a deer. This whole podcast, 723 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:23,959 Speaker 1: we're talking in the loud voices voices because we're sitting 724 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: in a We're sitting in a shooting blind and it's raining. 725 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: The snow kind of quick. It's just rain, and so 726 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of noise with the rain, and 727 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: these deer when they come out, they're gonna be long 728 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: waves from us on this hunt. The evening came to 729 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: a close. We saw seven or eight deer. I never 730 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,800 Speaker 1: saw a shooter. Stay tuned for the next podcast where 731 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,760 Speaker 1: I talk about my successful hunt from that very blind 732 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: well not the blind. I got out of the blind 733 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: from that very field two days later.