Speaker 1: You're listening to Comedy Central.
Speaker 2: From the most trusted journalists at Comedy Central is.
Speaker 1: America's only sorts for news.
Speaker 3: This is the daily shot with your.
Speaker 4: Home Shong storm.
Speaker 5: Alright, I drop eg sharp Hello, where a show?
Speaker 1: Miname is down? Short?
Speaker 6: What a factulous program have for the night?
Speaker 3: Now listen.
Speaker 7: It's been rough for me. Now that my Knicks and
Speaker 7: my Rangers are out of the playoffs, I'm ready to
Speaker 7: focus on the world. There was a lot going on today.
Speaker 7: Doctor Anthony Fauci testified.
Speaker 8: In front of Congress today and ironically contracted rabies there terrible,
Speaker 8: but his testimony was obviously about whether or not the
Speaker 8: pandemic was caused by a lab leak.
Speaker 1: I just will never know.
Speaker 6: Don't say it's to it.
Speaker 8: Also, bb netting Yahoo has been invited next week to
Speaker 8: come to lie to Congress.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, address a dress time?
Speaker 1: What did I say?
Speaker 6: Come to address Congress through the art of lyne.
Speaker 8: And Mexico has just elected its first female and its
Speaker 8: first Jewish president, so I'm very much looking forward to
Speaker 8: NPR's coverage of it because they are always they are
Speaker 8: always very careful to pronounce names authentically, so I'm sure
Speaker 8: it'll be like turning me out of the newly elected
Speaker 8: Mexican President Claudia.
Speaker 1: Shangel with the show, with the show.
Speaker 8: But of course, the biggest story continues to be the
Speaker 8: reaction to former President Trump's trial convictions. For the left,
Speaker 8: the conviction was an exercise in concealed and controlled glee.
Speaker 8: Many took the opportunity to over demonstrate.
Speaker 6: How they took no pleasure.
Speaker 8: From this day that they had been dreaming about since childhood.
Speaker 9: It was a somber and sad day for America that
Speaker 9: we have now seen a former president convicted on three
Speaker 9: four fellow accounts.
Speaker 6: I would hope we could all agree that this is
Speaker 6: a sad moment.
Speaker 8: The justice system had an honorable day, our country had.
Speaker 6: A sad day, and Faris Beulah had the day off.
Speaker 8: Perhaps nothing personified the delicate high wire between glee and
Speaker 8: gravitas more than President Biden's schesher cat press conference.
Speaker 10: Encore, mister president, can you tell us, sir Donald Trump
Speaker 10: prefers himself as a political prisoner and blames you directly?
Speaker 1: What's your response?
Speaker 5: No, don't stop, don't go, don't stop.
Speaker 1: Why can't they tell him just.
Speaker 6: Fucking keep walking whenever he's out in public and.
Speaker 1: He stops.
Speaker 6: No blaino, okay, go sir? Do you think the condition
Speaker 6: will have an impact on the campaign. We'd love to
Speaker 6: hear your thoughts, sir.
Speaker 8: Why does everything have to be so far weird? Why
Speaker 8: if you have something to say about it, say it.
Speaker 8: If you don't have something to say about it, don't say.
Speaker 6: But you're just.
Speaker 8: Gonna stop and hit him with some kind of seventies
Speaker 8: sitcom freeze frame. Mister president, what do you think of
Speaker 8: the conviction?
Speaker 1: Why so?
Speaker 6: For Democrats have worth?
Speaker 8: The challenge is how do we exploit the moment politically?
Speaker 8: Put out giving the impression that this was the plan,
Speaker 8: all of law Republicans needed to employ a slightly different strategy.
Speaker 3: So this was a sham ragged political show trial from
Speaker 3: the very beginning.
Speaker 4: This is the most outrageous travesty I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: This was not law, This was not criminal justice.
Speaker 1: This was politics.
Speaker 3: This was a political smear job.
Speaker 10: I guess we all need to shop at Banana Republic
Speaker 10: from now.
Speaker 6: On, because that's what it feels like. Yeah, a Banana Republic.
Speaker 8: After this trial, we need to shop at Old Navy
Speaker 8: because our country is a sinking ship.
Speaker 6: It was a sham.
Speaker 1: A sham. This trial a sham.
Speaker 8: I say it was a sham.
Speaker 1: I'm shopping.
Speaker 5: I don't name.
Speaker 6: The trial was a sham.
Speaker 8: Yes, impaneled grand juries and submitted evidence and cross examined witnesses.
Speaker 6: But how is.
Speaker 8: Donald Trump or his family not allowed on the jury? Outrageous?
Speaker 8: I guess in America now we need to start shopping
Speaker 8: at Banobo's because our country is getting at both ends.
Speaker 8: You see, if I may, Bonobos are highly sexual apes
Speaker 8: frequently engage in activities with multiple partners. Oh, I'm going
Speaker 8: to be a big hit on primadologist Dick Dock. But
Speaker 8: maybe our justice system wasn't a sham, but certainly applying
Speaker 8: our justice system to Donald Trump was.
Speaker 11: This is the weaponization of the justice system against their
Speaker 11: political opponent.
Speaker 4: This is a justice system that hunts Republicans while protecting Democrats.
Speaker 8: Oh my god, the justice system hunts Republicans while protecting Democrats.
Speaker 8: Someone should mention that to such unprotected Democrats as Senator
Speaker 8: Robert Menendez and Congressman Henry Quay are both facing corruption
Speaker 8: charges brought by our Department of Justice. Not to mention,
Speaker 8: Hunter Biden was facing Jerry's selection in a federal gun
Speaker 8: chargers trial today. That's probably what you notice everyone on
Speaker 8: Fox and Friends this morning using pillows to cover their
Speaker 8: boners it. But now you've done it, Liberals, through your
Speaker 8: sham organization, the good arted and good.
Speaker 6: Intention denizens of Magatania have finally been pushed too far.
Speaker 3: Be ready because on January twenty of next year, when
Speaker 3: he's former president Joe Biden, what's good for the goose
Speaker 3: is good for the gander.
Speaker 10: And Daily Wires Matt Walsh said Trump should quote make
Speaker 10: and publish a list of ten high ranking Democrat.
Speaker 8: Criminals who he will have arrested when he takes office.
Speaker 9: These Democrats will rule the day they decided to use
Speaker 9: law fair to stop a presidential candidate. It won't be
Speaker 9: Hunter Biden the next time. It's going to be Joe Biden.
Speaker 9: It could potentially still be Barack Obama. It could still
Speaker 9: potentially be Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 6: It could be Barack Obama.
Speaker 8: First of all, why is she broadcasting in front of
Speaker 8: Georgia o'keef's vagina? And second, perhaps it is time for
Speaker 8: those on the right to begin to examine what it
Speaker 8: might be like to investigate Hillary and William Clinton, or
Speaker 8: perhaps to do it continuously and relentlessly for the last
Speaker 8: thirty years. But to admit their own political gamesmanship, their
Speaker 8: own attempts at weaponizing justice, their own relentless pursuit of opponents,
Speaker 8: their own dehumanizing rhetoric towards the left, would be to
Speaker 8: allow a molecule of reality into the air tight distortion
Speaker 8: field that has been created to protect Macedonians from the
Speaker 8: harsh glare of actuality. It is a place where a
Speaker 8: moment such as this next one can pass without so
Speaker 8: much as a gasp of what planet do you live on?
Speaker 6: For it is clearly not ours.
Speaker 3: You famously said regarding Hillary Clinton, locker up. You declined
Speaker 3: to do that as president.
Speaker 2: I didn't say locker up, but the people don't say
Speaker 2: locker up, locker up?
Speaker 6: What the fuck.
Speaker 8: You never said locker I think I remember you saying
Speaker 8: it to her face.
Speaker 6: At a debate.
Speaker 10: It's just awfully good that someone with the temperament of
Speaker 10: Donald Trump is not in charge of the law in
Speaker 10: our country, because you'd be in jail.
Speaker 8: To be fair, I apologize. You did not say the
Speaker 8: words lock her up. You only used a phrase synonymous
Speaker 8: with locking her up. Again, apologies, you didn't say lock
Speaker 8: her up. You merely gave the thumbs up to thousands
Speaker 8: of others chanting lock her up. But that doesn't mean
Speaker 8: he literally said lock her up. Although to be fair,
Speaker 8: he literally said lock.
Speaker 1: Her up all the time.
Speaker 6: So cooking Hillary anyway, crook it that you should lock
Speaker 6: her up.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. For what she's done, they should lock
Speaker 1: her up.
Speaker 11: Her up is right, lock up the vibes, lock up Hillary.
Speaker 1: And we sallion time and then the.
Speaker 8: And the Fox and Friends b team is just sitting there, tanned.
Speaker 6: And fit, healthy and so lockable.
Speaker 1: How did they get seld He's good looking bunch.
Speaker 6: But there's three of them. One of them didn't remember
Speaker 6: he said lock them up. I can believe two of
Speaker 6: them didn't remember. Three of them.
Speaker 8: And that, ladies and gentlemen, I present to you is
Speaker 8: why we need courts.
Speaker 6: Whatever flaws the American.
Speaker 8: Justice system has, and they are legion, especially for non
Speaker 8: billionaire former presidents, it does appear to be the last
Speaker 8: place in America where you can't just say whatever the
Speaker 8: fact you want, regardless of reality.
Speaker 6: Trump knows this better than anyone. Now.
Speaker 1: I would have testified. I wanted to testify.
Speaker 2: The theory is you never testify because as soon as
Speaker 2: you testify anybody. If it were George Washington, don't testify
Speaker 2: because they'll get you in something that you said slightly
Speaker 2: wrong and then they sue you for perjury. You would
Speaker 2: have said something out of whack, like it was a
Speaker 2: beautiful sunny day and it was actually raining out.
Speaker 8: Yes, our jails in America are filled with incompetent weathermen.
Speaker 8: I'm telling your officer, I thought there would be thundersnow
Speaker 8: instead of chance.
Speaker 6: Don't take me away.
Speaker 8: This is why the law and order right hates court
Speaker 8: procedures when apply to them. Courts are the last remaining
Speaker 8: guardrail that is a standard of evidentiary presentation. It is
Speaker 8: the last place where you have to prove what you say.
Speaker 8: And you see the difference in what they say out
Speaker 8: of court versus what they say in court. Here is
Speaker 8: Trump on the twenty twenty election. Out of court, this.
Speaker 6: Is a fraud on the American public. We know there
Speaker 6: was massive fraud.
Speaker 1: It was a rigged election.
Speaker 6: Here are his lawyers in court. This is not a
Speaker 6: fraud case. We are not pledging fraud in this lawsuit.
Speaker 11: We're not alleging that anyone's stealing the election.
Speaker 8: Here is Rudy Giuliani pleading before the court of seasonal Landscapers.
Speaker 6: What happened there?
Speaker 1: It's a mix up.
Speaker 6: He's pleading, but not in the actual court.
Speaker 1: It's a fraud, an absolute fraud.
Speaker 6: And what does Juliani say about that in court?
Speaker 1: If we had it led fraud? Yes, but this is
Speaker 1: is not a fraud case.
Speaker 8: It's not a fraud case in court where I would
Speaker 8: need evidence. It's only a fraud case out there amongst
Speaker 8: the sod and the mulch, where I can say whatever
Speaker 8: I want. Fox News says that dominion voting machines rigged
Speaker 8: the election for Biden.
Speaker 6: Out of court.
Speaker 10: They were flipping votes in the computer system or adding
Speaker 10: votes that did not exist. The whole situation was carefully
Speaker 10: calculated and created to steal the election from President Trump.
Speaker 8: Did you notice as the fraud trial went on, Sydney
Speaker 8: Powell turned into Michael Jackson.
Speaker 6: Is that it ended that segment with.
Speaker 1: But that's where you.
Speaker 8: Can say out of court, But in court, Fox was
Speaker 8: forced to pay seven hundred and eighty seven million dollars
Speaker 8: for false statements. The difference between in court and out
Speaker 8: of court is that in court someone can say, prove it,
Speaker 8: and the problem is that most of the time in
Speaker 8: this country, our political leaders are not in court. They
Speaker 8: are here on TV, where the news media has decided
Speaker 8: that there's really no such thing as reality.
Speaker 11: We now live in two utterly different universes.
Speaker 6: These two Americas are living in two different realities. We're
Speaker 6: living in two different realities.
Speaker 8: Americans are living in two for the most part, two
Speaker 8: very different realities right now.
Speaker 6: No, you're thinking of the multiverse.
Speaker 8: We are all living in one reality, and it can
Speaker 8: be the news media's job to litigate the parameters of
Speaker 8: said reality. What the courts do really well is look
Speaker 8: backwards and reconstruct the realities of what happened.
Speaker 6: The news media could do the same, but.
Speaker 8: What they do instead is look forward and wildly speculate
Speaker 8: on the future.
Speaker 2: If Donald Trump is the nominee, and if he is
Speaker 2: convicted of a crime, could you support him?
Speaker 10: If he's a convicted felon, If he is the Republican nominee,
Speaker 10: does that mean you're still going to vote for him?
Speaker 1: He could be convicted before November.
Speaker 6: Would you still support him?
Speaker 12: Then?
Speaker 8: Will you commit to certifying the twenty twenty four election
Speaker 8: results no matter who wins?
Speaker 6: Let me look forward?
Speaker 9: Will you accept the election results of twenty twenty four,
Speaker 9: No matter what happened, Senator.
Speaker 8: No matter what Senator, voting regularities and overlords, voting machines
Speaker 8: that suddenly transform into fighting robots, voting booth powers activate,
Speaker 8: will you still certify?
Speaker 1: Who thing cares?
Speaker 6: No one knows what the future holds. Ask this person
Speaker 6: what it.
Speaker 8: Was about the twenty twenty election that they found objectionable,
Speaker 8: and then litigate the realities of their objections to them
Speaker 8: in front of them. So when they say to you,
Speaker 8: I never said locker up, you can say I object
Speaker 8: they do that?
Speaker 12: What is wrong with you? What is wrong with you?
Speaker 1: And you know what I gotta Here's the deal.
Speaker 8: You really want to ask speculative questions that nobody can answer,
Speaker 8: We'll just create a show just for that.
Speaker 6: We'll tike it down to a half hour and call.
Speaker 1: It No One Knows, And you can put all the.
Speaker 8: Polls and the horse race questions in there, and then
Speaker 8: with the other twenty three and a half hours in
Speaker 8: the day, there's seventies a week. You can present the
Speaker 8: evidence for our shared experience. Because court should be the
Speaker 8: option of last resort for our defined reality, not the
Speaker 8: only option for our defined reality.
Speaker 6: So listen up, media, We'll give you a little gavel.
Speaker 8: You can study all the evidence, no matter how tedious,
Speaker 8: and reach a conclusion, and then you can present those
Speaker 8: conclusions and the audience us. We'll be the ones doing
Speaker 8: like jury duty willingly without penalty of law, or without
Speaker 8: trying to come up with any excuse to avoid having
Speaker 8: to do jury duty.
Speaker 6: I think I'm seeing the flaw in my argument. Either way,
Speaker 6: it's better than what we have now.
Speaker 1: When we come back, ken Buck.
Speaker 6: Will be joining us. Don't go away.
Speaker 1: Where about the programs?
Speaker 8: I guess tonight A Republican who used to represent Colorado's
Speaker 8: fourth district in Congress for nine years until his resignation
Speaker 8: in March, please weapon in the program, former Congressman ken Buck?
Speaker 1: How are you now?
Speaker 8: For those in the units that might not know so, sir,
Speaker 8: you are a congressman for nine years, conservative bona fides,
Speaker 8: I mean, impeccable, and yet not strong enough in fealty
Speaker 8: to the Trump world that you were immune from the
Speaker 8: pressure and the penalties that they might place on you.
Speaker 3: Well, Donald Trump's not a conservative.
Speaker 8: Exactly, but now you're the rhino you with and you
Speaker 8: and I probably disagree on most things.
Speaker 3: Hopefully everything.
Speaker 1: Well done, sir, well done.
Speaker 8: But what is the pressure, like, you know, I see
Speaker 8: so many Republican stalwarts who are on the record as saying,
Speaker 8: this man is a con man, this man is not
Speaker 8: worthy of the highest office of the presidency, this man
Speaker 8: defiles our great country. I'm supporting him in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 8: What is the mental process of that?
Speaker 3: Well, it's really pretty simple. In order to get elected,
Speaker 3: you've got to get fifty one percent of the vote,
Speaker 3: and so there's this combination of wanting to do the
Speaker 3: right thing. So you run for office, and then you
Speaker 3: need to be popular in order to win. And the
Speaker 3: Republican Party now a majority of Republican primary voters are
Speaker 3: MAGA supporters, and so you don't want to make the
Speaker 3: man mad. Who is really in control or strongly influencing
Speaker 3: the MAGA voters. So those folks are making a calculation.
Speaker 3: They want to stay in office.
Speaker 6: What is there in your mind? What's the percentage of that?
Speaker 8: How much of it is cynical calculation and how much
Speaker 8: of it is people like yourself leave and they are
Speaker 8: filled in by real ideologues who believe in that message.
Speaker 8: The message of it's really whatever Trump wants having nothing
Speaker 8: to do with conservative principle.
Speaker 3: I think that there's one hundred percent of the folks
Speaker 3: who are running for office who recognize that if they're
Speaker 3: going to win a Republican primary, they need to be
Speaker 3: Trump supporters.
Speaker 6: Right, And that's what's happening.
Speaker 8: Was there discussion behind the scenes in Congress where people
Speaker 8: would say, I want this to end?
Speaker 6: Do they feel hostage to that?
Speaker 3: In both parties? Honestly, in both parties there is a
Speaker 3: real problem with the folks who are at the head
Speaker 3: of the ticket. Obviously Dean Phillips felt that way on
Speaker 3: the left.
Speaker 8: Sure, no, I was a big Phillips supporter. I really
Speaker 8: thought he was going to go all the way. Remind
Speaker 8: me again, who is Dean Phillips now? But you've said
Speaker 8: so you've watched this process play out with Donald Trump.
Speaker 8: It would you say it's fair that it literally drove
Speaker 8: you from Congress.
Speaker 3: I would not win a primary in the next election,
Speaker 3: or if I want a primary, it would be because
Speaker 3: there were so many people who wanted to run against
Speaker 3: me that they split.
Speaker 6: And what was the crime that you committed?
Speaker 8: Because your positions hadn't changed, So tell me the crime
Speaker 8: you committed.
Speaker 3: So I don't know that it's a crime. Now that
Speaker 3: we're talking about verdicts and things like that, let's just
Speaker 3: trying to stay away from whatever crime.
Speaker 1: You are not under.
Speaker 3: Oath in anyway, whatever crime I committed, the statute of
Speaker 3: limitations probably hasn't run, so I want to make sure
Speaker 3: I'm clear there. But my goal in leaving Congress was
Speaker 3: to leave undefeated and unindicted, and I have accomplished that goal.
Speaker 3: So I'm very happy about.
Speaker 6: You gotta aim higher next time, you gotta.
Speaker 8: You do have a frustration and complaints about the process
Speaker 8: of this Donald Trump trial. I think you called it
Speaker 8: shameful president. No, shameful president, is that correct? A shameful precedent.
Speaker 3: I think it is a bad president. And I was
Speaker 3: a prosecutor for twenty five years.
Speaker 6: Why do you think it's a bad president.
Speaker 3: It is a bad precedent because lady Justice, blindfold, scale sword,
Speaker 3: the image of Lady Justice.
Speaker 6: We went out in the seventies. I'm very familiar.
Speaker 3: In this case. The blindfold came off, the blindfold is
Speaker 3: on because people shouldn't be targeted and the system is flawed.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that it doesn't happen. People shouldn't be
Speaker 3: targeted because they're white or black, man or woman, Republican Democrat,
Speaker 3: Rich Poor. The blindfold came off and Donald Trump was targeted.
Speaker 6: Now how was he? I'm curious how he was targeted?
Speaker 3: So Cyrus Vance was the previous DA declined this case.
Speaker 3: Alvin Bragg brought a case where the misdemeanor had the
Speaker 3: statueations had expired, found a felony to extend that statue limitations,
Speaker 3: and then brought the case.
Speaker 6: I found a felony or there was a felony.
Speaker 3: Well, there wasn't a felony for the previous district attorney.
Speaker 8: I mean many times district attorneys will say I don't
Speaker 8: think the evidence gets to that standard. But another district
Speaker 8: attorney might come in and say, oh, no, that's a felony.
Speaker 8: He's doing that in order to manipulate an election.
Speaker 6: That's a felony.
Speaker 3: So this district attorney declined the case. Alvin Bragg declined
Speaker 3: the case and then brought the case. And there was
Speaker 3: significant political pressure to bring the case. And that's something
Speaker 3: that our justice system needs to be insulated from. And
Speaker 3: the federal system has done a fairly good job of
Speaker 3: being insulated. You've got Hunter Biden, You've got special council appointed.
Speaker 8: On But Hunter Biden wouldn't be up against charges if
Speaker 8: he wasn't Hunter Biden, he'd be just some dude who
Speaker 8: brought a gun somewhere. He wouldn't be facing the charges
Speaker 8: he's facing.
Speaker 3: Well, we probably disagree about that. I think that hopefully
Speaker 3: Hunter Biden.
Speaker 8: We think Hunter Biden would be facing rather than like
Speaker 8: a rehab stint or something along those lines. You think
Speaker 8: the attention on Hunter Biden would be occurring whether his
Speaker 8: name was Hunter Biden or not.
Speaker 3: I prosecuted hundreds of gun cases, some of them because
Speaker 3: drug dealers, drug users, drug addicts had purchased a gun.
Speaker 8: Yes, but doesn't that say more about this country's view
Speaker 8: on drug cases and how we prosecute them, and how
Speaker 8: we excuse white collar crime. We basically have a bargain
Speaker 8: with white collar crime where we say, how about if
Speaker 8: you give us like five percent of it and everything.
Speaker 6: I'll be following?
Speaker 8: Like, isn't isn't that not speak to political targeting? But
Speaker 8: the way that we diminish white collar crimes? I mean,
Speaker 8: two thousand and eight, the financial system collapsed and one
Speaker 8: dude went to jail for like three months.
Speaker 6: I mean, I think Martha Stewart did a longer stint.
Speaker 3: Which was a white collar crime, by the way, But yeah,
Speaker 3: I think that I was a white collar prosecutor for
Speaker 3: much of my twenty five years. Absolutely, a black kid
Speaker 3: walks into a bank, robs a bank. Twenty years a
Speaker 3: white guy at a bank, steals millions of dollars compared
Speaker 3: to twelve hundred dollars, gets off with probation or goes
Speaker 3: to a camp in Florida for a few months. Absolutely inequitable.
Speaker 3: Absolutely in Congress, and so couldn't you look.
Speaker 8: At this as actually not a shameful president, but an
Speaker 8: unbelievably positive step in sending a message that the low
Speaker 8: level of corruption that seems to be the center of
Speaker 8: our political life is unacceptable.
Speaker 1: I mean, none of you the way I want to
Speaker 1: look at it. But I was not a possible POSI.
Speaker 6: I didn't think that was common apologies.
Speaker 3: No, no, you all get bonuses.
Speaker 6: Ye, yes, exactly.
Speaker 3: So it is a dangerous precedent in my mind because
Speaker 3: when we start charging former presidents and I'm not saying that. Look,
Speaker 3: you think what Donald Trump did in the Land City
Speaker 3: with the casinos and other things right there, was fraud,
Speaker 3: and it maybe went beyond civil fraud. And there are
Speaker 3: plenty of things that people could look at and say
Speaker 3: that that's a criminal case. I think when you look
Speaker 3: at a former president and he has gone up how
Speaker 3: many civil cases now and for criminal cases.
Speaker 6: But let's be clear.
Speaker 8: I mean Donald Trump didn't come into office and boy scout,
Speaker 8: he was probably one of the most sued individuals in
Speaker 8: New York State history.
Speaker 6: I mean his first lawyer was Roy Cone.
Speaker 8: You don't hire Roy Cone and say to him like,
Speaker 8: and I want to make sure everything's done on the
Speaker 8: up and up. Like Roy Cone, I think, was Donald
Speaker 8: Trump's lawyer and Satan's lawyer. I think, and if I
Speaker 8: remember correctly, even Satan would say to him, like take
Speaker 8: it down or not, Troy, that's.
Speaker 3: A little bit, but pay his bills.
Speaker 6: He did not pay his bills.
Speaker 8: But my point is this is a continuation of a process.
Speaker 6: So the targeting aspect of it. Look, a healthy.
Speaker 8: Country would have viewed what Donald Trump did from the
Speaker 8: election day through January sixth, the way that he meticulously
Speaker 8: and relentlessly pursued all avenues to overturn a democratic election.
Speaker 8: That's what a healthy country would deal with but a
Speaker 8: healthy country also looks at other aspects of what seemed
Speaker 8: to be fraud. If you have a home office and
Speaker 8: you put it on your taxes, but you don't really
Speaker 8: have a home office, that's a problem.
Speaker 6: For you, is it not?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 6: Why isn't?
Speaker 8: Why aren't they say like it's just a bookkeeping era
Speaker 8: of one hundred and thirty thousand dollars. Donald Trump colluded
Speaker 8: with his lawyer and a publisher of a major tabloid
Speaker 8: to buy and bury stories not a crime that he
Speaker 8: would deem hurtful to his election, and then use the
Speaker 8: finances that he paid for those stories and put them
Speaker 8: down as not that that is a crime.
Speaker 6: Is it not.
Speaker 3: He didn't put him down. He put him down in
Speaker 3: a ledger as not a payment for it. But so
Speaker 3: would what would he? Well, you can falsify your own books.
Speaker 3: You just can't false by your books. When you submit
Speaker 3: him to the I R s oh.
Speaker 6: So, when he had sitted him, he said, this is so.
Speaker 3: He said it was a legal expense. It wasn't a
Speaker 3: campaign expense.
Speaker 8: I understand the point you're making. So here's where this
Speaker 8: takes us. I think I don't believe Donald Trump is
Speaker 8: the sole threat to our democracy.
Speaker 6: I truly don't.
Speaker 8: I think he is a symptom of a dissatisfaction that
Speaker 8: people have with the democratic system where if you have
Speaker 8: money and you're powerful, you can go. It was on
Speaker 8: my ledger. Is a legal expense.
Speaker 6: It's not a real it's not a legal expense. It's
Speaker 6: not for my election.
Speaker 8: It's I think they see that his prescription of our
Speaker 8: system is correct. The system is rigged, and people's dissatisfaction
Speaker 8: with that is what leads to Donald Trump being able
Speaker 8: to command that dissatisfaction. Where I would disagree with him
Speaker 8: is I don't think he wants to drain the swamp.
Speaker 8: I think he wants the deed to the swamp signed
Speaker 8: over to him so that he can turn America into
Speaker 8: just another subsidiary of the Trump organization.
Speaker 6: But I don't know.
Speaker 8: My question to you would be, why is it bad
Speaker 8: precedent to pursue that case legally?
Speaker 6: Donald Trump?
Speaker 8: If he pursued the election fraud cases through the courts
Speaker 8: and they impaddled a grand jury and then it went
Speaker 8: to a trial with a jury of peers and they
Speaker 8: decided on it, that's not illegitimate, And so why is
Speaker 8: this illegitimate? And by the way, that's my lawyer calling
Speaker 8: right now.
Speaker 6: With First of all, is that really your ring tone?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 1: Is your ring tone?
Speaker 6: Baby? Go nappy? All right?
Speaker 8: Sorry, getting back to our democracy.
Speaker 6: Look, I just find all this high dudgeon really disingenuous.
Speaker 8: The prosecutor ran on getting Donald Trump, Well he's the DA.
Speaker 6: He runs on weeding out corruption.
Speaker 3: Right, Can I answer that?
Speaker 6: Please?
Speaker 3: I was a prosecutor ran five years, but I read
Speaker 3: three separate times. Okay, I ran on, we've got a
Speaker 3: combat violent crime. We've got to go after repeat offenders.
Speaker 3: Never ran on I'm going to get that guy.
Speaker 8: But you could run on I'm getting white collar coruption.
Speaker 8: Alvin Bragg didn't say I'm going to get Trump. What
Speaker 8: he said was, I'm the most qualified. This guy has
Speaker 8: a record in New York decades long of corruption, and
Speaker 8: it's I think it's Look, if you were Dick Tracy
Speaker 8: and you wanted to be the thing, wouldn't you be like,
Speaker 8: I'm gonna get Scarfazer whoever one of the Dick Tracy
Speaker 8: guys like this was a guy pulling that. And the
Speaker 8: second point to that would be this in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 8: what was one of the platforms that Donald Trump ran on,
Speaker 8: let's get crooked Hillary.
Speaker 3: Thank god he's not a prosecutor.
Speaker 6: I understand, but do you get my point?
Speaker 8: The point is this guy ran on, Hillary is crooked
Speaker 8: and I'm gonna put her in jail. And then with Biden,
Speaker 8: he said the Biden crime faily is crooked and I'm
Speaker 8: going to put them in jail. And then a prosecutor
Speaker 8: in New York said, I have evidence you've committed a felony,
Speaker 8: so we're gonna put you on trial.
Speaker 6: And he's like, what, how dare you sir?
Speaker 1: What are we talking about?
Speaker 11: What is this?
Speaker 1: What are we dealing with? I'm about to go to jail.
Speaker 1: Are nice?
Speaker 3: Respectfully? Please apples and oranges? Because you've got someone in
Speaker 3: a political system, and how many people in America believe
Speaker 3: what a politician says.
Speaker 8: Sorry, hey, tickets are free. I will throw you out
Speaker 8: of here. Respectfully. We're having a conversation.
Speaker 1: This is not rome.
Speaker 3: A prosecutor walks into a courtroom and tells a lie,
Speaker 3: and that prosecutor loses a law license and probably goes
Speaker 3: to prison.
Speaker 6: Exactly.
Speaker 3: So the difference between Alvin Bragg's saying I am going
Speaker 3: after that person and Donald Trump saying that person should
Speaker 3: go to prison is two different forums.
Speaker 6: Who has the more power?
Speaker 8: Who has more a candidate, no, the president and someone
Speaker 8: running for president. This is kind of a crazy argument
Speaker 8: you're making.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, let me finish. Bill Barr. Great
Speaker 3: Attorney General Merrick Garland, Great Attorney General Merrick Garland appoints
Speaker 3: a special counsel and then puts the report out that
Speaker 3: says that Joe Biden should not be prosecuted because he's
Speaker 3: a kind gentleman with a bad memory, something to that effect.
Speaker 6: That's not what he said, but okay, well it's close.
Speaker 8: What he said was he would present to the jury
Speaker 8: as a kindle general, which means I don't think we
Speaker 8: can win this case because I think he's too sympathetic
Speaker 8: a figure.
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, okay, very different.
Speaker 3: I apologize. I'm not trying to slander objection.
Speaker 1: It's just day no objection. What's the I don't know,
Speaker 1: all right, so long a time to work.
Speaker 8: But the point being that if a candidate says I'm
Speaker 8: going to get this person, then that's all Alvin Bragg
Speaker 8: was at that time as a candidate. So why aren't
Speaker 8: you holding Donald Trump, who's running for president to the
Speaker 8: same standard that you would hold Alvin Bragg. And not
Speaker 8: only that, when Donald Trump was president, he did impat
Speaker 8: a special prosecutor to go after the Russian collusion hoax,
Speaker 8: that John Durham panel, and that was there to try
Speaker 8: and get charges against Hillary Cullington. You can't be mad
Speaker 8: at the Democrats for committing murder just because your team
Speaker 8: only committed attempted murder like that just doesn't fly. They
Speaker 8: were successful in their prosecution as opposed to those other
Speaker 8: cases where you just tried to get her.
Speaker 3: So Donald Trump never had the authority to request a
Speaker 3: search warrant, put handcuffs on somebody, prosecute somebody. That is
Speaker 3: always done by an independent Department of Justice. On the
Speaker 3: other hand, Alvin Bragg ran for office to get that
Speaker 3: authority to do those very things. It's two separate.
Speaker 8: Situations, not solely. And also those things come with a process.
Speaker 8: He can't just go in there and go arrest that guy.
Speaker 8: This isn't navalney. This is a grand jury was impaneled
Speaker 8: of normal New Yorkers, not Alvin Brack, and he presented
Speaker 8: his evidence and they came back and said, yeah, there's
Speaker 8: a case here.
Speaker 6: So then they impaneled the jury, and then both sides
Speaker 6: got to choose.
Speaker 3: You can indict a ham sandwich, that's what a grand
Speaker 3: jury is, okay, But generally you wouldn't convict a ham sandwich.
Speaker 7: Because at some point twelve New Yorkers would go, that's
Speaker 7: a the hand.
Speaker 3: Sandwich, and we will see what an appeals court does. Look,
Speaker 3: you're putting me in an unenviable position of defending Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: I've known in a long time.
Speaker 8: I'm putting you in a position of defending the process
Speaker 8: that he was put through. That process has standards, you
Speaker 8: set it yourself. An appeals court is going to look
Speaker 8: at this. There are many safeguards within our legal system,
Speaker 8: and he's getting the benefit of almost all of them
Speaker 8: in a way that poor New Yorkers will never get
Speaker 8: a sniff of.
Speaker 3: Agree both.
Speaker 8: So he's getting dooier process than anybody has ever gotten.
Speaker 6: So I don't understand just because you.
Speaker 8: Don't like the result. He didn't like the result of
Speaker 8: the election. Our elections are a fraud and we're a
Speaker 8: third world country. He doesn't like the result of a
Speaker 8: criminal case. Our courts are a fraud. What would make
Speaker 8: them better if they did what I wanted?
Speaker 6: That's not our system. No, that's a monarch.
Speaker 3: I think what would make them better in his mind
Speaker 3: if they didn't convict him. That's my point. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: I don't think he wants justice in this country. I
Speaker 3: don't think he's standing up and saying we need justice.
Speaker 3: He said, I've been saying the election's stolen. So let's
Speaker 3: see if we can elect election in Congress. I didn't
Speaker 3: win in the courts, so let's let's go to Congress.
Speaker 3: I wanted to certify those electors.
Speaker 8: By the way, you and I, you walked out here
Speaker 8: and you said to me, this is just fifteen minutes ago.
Speaker 6: I promised I wouldn't do this.
Speaker 8: You said to me, I bet we don't agree on anything,
Speaker 8: and yet sir, here.
Speaker 12: You are.
Speaker 1: Agree daytime.
Speaker 6: If we could do this.
Speaker 1: So I just get repair.
Speaker 3: I retract my previous comments.
Speaker 8: I will have a scenargrapher note those in the how
Speaker 8: do we My point in the first segment was the
Speaker 8: courts have been a really important stop gap. I think
Speaker 8: our courts are there is a two tiered system, and
Speaker 8: poor people without access get screwed. But I do think
Speaker 8: it's played an important role in holding up certain things
Speaker 8: in terms of corruption. I think the news media has
Speaker 8: forgotten that that can be part of their role. Is
Speaker 8: that something that you think could bring a sense more
Speaker 8: of an established reality and earned authority from the media
Speaker 8: that could create some parameters that we can all sort
Speaker 8: of agree on.
Speaker 6: Is that something that you think would be possible.
Speaker 3: I appreciate the question. I'm no longer a defense attorney
Speaker 3: now I could go to so I think we went
Speaker 3: from Walter Cronkite and Dan rather to entertainment, and I
Speaker 3: think the problem.
Speaker 6: Are you looking at me? I had nothing to do
Speaker 6: with this.
Speaker 3: I think the problem right now is everybody gets their
Speaker 3: news sources in silos and they just keep getting reinforced
Speaker 3: with certain ideas. I went to a neighbor's house the
Speaker 3: day after the twenty twenty election. Their flag was upside down.
Speaker 8: You was next to the alitos.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: I knocked on the door and asked them your flags.
Speaker 3: I thought they made a mistake.
Speaker 8: Oh gosh, but it was they were sending a message.
Speaker 3: Oh it's a crazy mess. There were kids playing across
Speaker 3: the street, the refrigerator gas in the tank, there was
Speaker 3: what's the thought?
Speaker 8: It was a dystopian like the last of us kind
Speaker 8: of it. Yeah, they were falling apart. I wonder too
Speaker 8: if the algorithm you know has played a role. You know,
Speaker 8: people can say like, oh, they're in their silos, but
Speaker 8: I think also the algorithms of social media incentivize you
Speaker 8: to more and more radical content. They want to keep
Speaker 8: you engaged in the same way that the news media
Speaker 8: needs kind of fear and urgency. I always say it's
Speaker 8: built for nine eleven, but in the absence of nine
Speaker 8: to eleven, they have to make you think like it's
Speaker 8: nine to eleven. And I think the algorithm you know
Speaker 8: plays a role in that as well, driving us into
Speaker 8: those holes lacking perspective.
Speaker 6: I don't know what you do about that, but.
Speaker 3: Well, one you create more competition. Facebook should have five
Speaker 3: facebooks that they compete with, and hopefully there would be
Speaker 3: a point where.
Speaker 8: What they do is they buy anything that even resembles
Speaker 8: a budding Facebook and stick it in their Facebook drawer.
Speaker 1: That's the tough part.
Speaker 6: Oh do you miss Congress in any way?
Speaker 8: Is there something about do you feel it was a
Speaker 8: job left undone for you? Do you feel what are
Speaker 8: your ultimate thoughts about about leaving the way you did
Speaker 8: and and the unfulfilled potential of a government that is
Speaker 8: completely disconnected from the needs of its people, allowing demagogues
Speaker 8: like Donald Trump to rise.
Speaker 3: Well, I left because I couldn't tell the lie twenty
Speaker 3: Corenty election wasn't stone the January sixth defendants aren't political prisoners,
Speaker 3: on and on and and so.
Speaker 6: That's him saying that, not me. I just want to
Speaker 6: make that clear.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 8: If I ever decide to run for Congress as a Republican,
Speaker 8: I just want to make sure that that's ken Buck
Speaker 8: saying that, not me.
Speaker 6: Continue.
Speaker 3: So, not not telling the not agreeing to the party line.
Speaker 6: Right, You're a victim of cancel culture.
Speaker 3: Well I am, I'm one. I'm not a victim of
Speaker 3: of anything. I am absolutely blessed beyond belief, with six
Speaker 3: grandkids and plenty of six grandkids, six and a half
Speaker 3: grandkids one on the way.
Speaker 1: Oh god, I'm sorry.
Speaker 8: I immediately went to like salamonic wisdom of like, no,
Speaker 8: you're not supposed to do that.
Speaker 3: No, but but you know, there's a lot of life
Speaker 3: out there besides, and it's about nothing and telling lies.
Speaker 3: And so I made a choice to go enjoy what
Speaker 3: I've got to left.
Speaker 6: What will break this fever in Washington.
Speaker 3: One. America does great with a crisis. Nine to twelve,
Speaker 3: America came together and we were a unified country. I
Speaker 3: hope we don't get for like seven hours. I hope
Speaker 3: we don't get to that crisis point. But I think
Speaker 3: that there is a leader out there that will unify
Speaker 3: and help unify America. And it's somebody who I believe
Speaker 3: that great more, somebody who has great leadership skills, a
Speaker 3: John F. Kennedy. You know, I probably wouldn't have said
Speaker 3: this twenty years ago that he was a great hero,
Speaker 3: but you look at what John F. Kennedy did in
Speaker 3: terms of bringing the country together during the Cold War
Speaker 3: and moving us forward. Uh, there is somebody there that
Speaker 3: will help America heal and move forward.
Speaker 6: You wouldn't happen to have a name, would you.
Speaker 3: I know it's not ke Buck, and I know it's
Speaker 3: not one of the two. And Nate's leading the country
Speaker 3: in the in the polls right now.
Speaker 8: Right Well, I very much appreciate you coming back and
Speaker 8: having the discussion with this to come back and says
Speaker 8: again much appreciate it.
Speaker 6: Whish of that former coins gonna come back.
Speaker 1: We're gonna take it back to do that back. That
Speaker 1: was a.
Speaker 9: Hell.
Speaker 1: Everybody's gotta goshout for tonight.
Speaker 8: Before we go, we're gonna check in with your host
Speaker 8: for the rest of this week, mister Ronnie.
Speaker 6: Chang, Rodney Chang, tell the people, what do you got
Speaker 6: lined up for this week?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 13: John, I'll be looking at international stories because I figure
Speaker 13: at least one of the thirty seven hosts of the
Speaker 13: show should be thinking about places besides America, Speaking of
Speaker 13: which made new presidente of Maco Mazeltov.
Speaker 1: The chump.
Speaker 6: Masel Talv Why why are you masl talving me? Oh?
Speaker 13: Because you know she's you know, she's got the you
Speaker 13: know the it's the it's the hell bray, the Chosen's Jewish.
Speaker 1: Whoa whoa? You said it on me?
Speaker 6: Okay, that's not a slurry. You could say Jewish.
Speaker 13: Know it's a hot ish, Okay, Joe. I'm just saying, Hey,
Speaker 13: if an Asian dude one president of Mexico, I'd be hyped.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 13: I throw a big party for my staff and maybe
Speaker 13: give everyone sitting next to me one hundred bucks.
Speaker 6: I'll give you one hundred bucks. Stay tuned Ronnie Jang
Speaker 6: this week and check out.
Speaker 1: We've got a new podcast away, Nick shot God Sure
Speaker 1: starting day.
Speaker 12: Explore more shows from the Daily Show podcast universe by
Speaker 12: searching The Daily Show wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 1: Watch The Daily Show week nights at eleven.
Speaker 3: Ten Central on Comedy Central, and stream full episodes anytime
Speaker 3: on Paramount Plus.
Speaker 1: This has been a Comedy Central podcast.
Speaker 12: Dawn