1 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: Well, you know, as the Bible remains the world's best 2 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: selling book, people everywhere are seeking a deeper understanding of God, 3 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: yet many still wonder how to begin that journey. Well, 4 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: today's guest shares practical, powerful ways, of course, that you 5 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: can spark your devotional life and tune your heart to 6 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: hear his voice. But before you get to that, joint 7 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: me around the table is April Simon's and of course 8 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: we're talking about the book of Books, which is the Bible, 9 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 1: the Bible, And how has that impacted your life? Oh? 10 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: My goodness, It's changed my life. It's what I rely 11 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: on every day. And I love the book that we're 12 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: going to talk about today because it makes the Bible practical. Yeah, 13 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: my granddaughter said, geg, I don't really like reading the Bible. 14 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 3: She's eight. 15 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: There's honesty, right, there's when you're over there in Leviticus. 16 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 3: I said, where are you written? 17 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: She said, Genesis. I said, let me help you out 18 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 2: a little bit, sister. 19 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: So I told her. I took her to Matthew and. 20 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: Just told her, you know, kind of like you offer 21 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: the Book of John and just making it easier. 22 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,639 Speaker 1: This's what this does. It's going to help so many people. 23 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: So good, Anna Kendall, how are you. 24 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 4: Oh, I'm just great, and I'm so excited because the 25 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 4: Bible is active, it is alive, It is so powerful. 26 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: It really is. Rachel An Brown, the Bible is still 27 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: the number one selling book. 28 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 5: I know, it's wild and it's had this like re 29 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 5: Bible in these coming days. And I love our guest today. 30 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 5: He's been a pastor for twenty years, very successful entrepreneur, 31 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 5: and I love his heart and desire to see, especially young. 32 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: People fall in love with this book. 33 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 5: And so he's made it easy to equip people to 34 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 5: understand how to read it better. 35 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: That's good. That's good, Dorothy Newton. I know the Bible 36 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: is a very important. 37 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 6: Part of your worldness, and you know, it's the only 38 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 6: thing that we have that never changes, like never ever 39 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 6: changes in today's society with our younger generations. 40 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, this is so good. It's so important, 41 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: Cindy Johnson, that we understand the Bible, that we can 42 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: read it and understand it. And that's what we're going 43 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: to talk about today because a lot of things we 44 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: talk about on the table are not our opinions. They're 45 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: based on what the Word of God has to say, 46 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: which was inspired by the Holy Spirit, as these men wrote. 47 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: So this is actually God speaking to us. A lot 48 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: of people don't get that. 49 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, it will speak to your heart. It will bring 50 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 7: comfort to you at the times you need comfort. But 51 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 7: it also corrects you, yes, the moments that you need 52 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 7: to be corrected, because you see stories of people that 53 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 7: live life that made mistakes. God forgave them, help them. 54 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 7: And that's what the Bible will. 55 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 8: Do for you. 56 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: That's so good. That's so good. 57 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 8: Well, he says. 58 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: Celebrated speaker, entrepreneur, and author. Please welcome our guest today, 59 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: Benjamin Wendell. Hello, welcome, see you all. So good to 60 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: see you. Thank you so glad you're here today. We're 61 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: going to talk about this and dive into it. God's 62 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 1: word is more accessible than ever, and hunger for it, 63 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: believe it or not, is growing. And Benjamin's going to 64 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: share why he believes a Bible revival. How do you 65 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: like that is near, with insights from his book How 66 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: to Read and Study the Bible for Yourself. Okay, so 67 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: what inspired you to write this little book and how 68 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: easy is it for people to get it, read it 69 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: and understand it and go right into another level of 70 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: understanding the Bible. 71 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 9: Well, Joni, you're holding the very first pink version of 72 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 9: this book as well. 73 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 3: Version is for me. It works well. 74 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 9: I have three kids myself, and I recognize that they 75 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 9: can like me. I'm a pasta's kid. They can be 76 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 9: around things of faith, yeah, but they are going to 77 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 9: have to have their own journey with learning about God 78 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 9: being transformed by the Bible. The Bible can feel unapproachable. 79 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 9: People can be confused, I can lack confidence. I wanted 80 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 9: to give some very practical tools for my own kids, 81 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 9: and then for churches, Christian schools, colleges, small groups to 82 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 9: help people to be familiar and confident to read the 83 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 9: Bible for themselves. 84 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about how you came to 85 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: know the Lord because you were raised p que in Australia. Yeah, 86 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: close to where your husband and together lived. So he 87 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: knew Josh's dad and of course his mother Glinda, who's 88 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: still here. Glinda, that's what he calls her. That's what 89 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: Australians is. How they say the R. They put the 90 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: rs on the a's then they don't say there are 91 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: rs when they can, so they'll say they'll say mother 92 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: instead of mother anyway, Okay, Ben convinced that it will 93 00:04:58,600 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: be the language of him and them. 94 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 8: We all get this accent when we go to heaven. 95 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad I'm going to be practicing with my 96 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: son in law Josh, because I kid him all the time. Okay, 97 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: So talk a little bit about your journey, because just 98 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: because you're born in it or you're around it, doesn't 99 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: mean you have a personal relationship with our creator. 100 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 9: Well, as you said, raised with Josh, love Josh and Rachel. 101 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 9: These guys have been such dear friends for a long time. 102 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 9: His dad was pastoring a church in the same denomination 103 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 9: as my dad in the same city, so we knew 104 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 9: their family. 105 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 8: My journey has been very. 106 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 9: Much like it was a crucial time when I was 107 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 9: a teenager, especially around the age of seventeen. I knew 108 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 9: about God and I was ready to walk away from 109 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 9: the church. And I came to a fork in the 110 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 9: road moment. 111 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: Why why were you? Why are you even considering walking away? 112 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: Were you just were you pulled into what the other 113 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: kids were doing. And that's a hard time, sixteen seventeen, 114 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: It is difficult. 115 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 9: I wish I you know, it was some exciting story 116 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 9: that I was out there partying every weekend and so forth. 117 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 9: I was busy trying to get my school grades up. 118 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 9: So it was less that I think, it was more 119 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 9: my own doubts and my own Okay, I get the 120 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 9: fact that my parents believe this, but what do I believe? 121 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 9: And I think, you know my. 122 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: Own there's not a lot of it. There's not a 123 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: large Christian population in Australia. 124 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 9: No, there's not what percentage would you say, Oh, it's 125 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 9: less than ten percent of ten church on Sundays, and 126 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 9: so it's become a very secularation. But I think I 127 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 9: just had my own questions and doubts and I'd seen it, 128 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 9: but I needed to experience it. 129 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 8: I'll give you an example. 130 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: I could. 131 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 9: I could take a basketball card, say Michael Jordan when 132 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 9: I was a teenager. I could read about his shot percentage, 133 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 9: his height. 134 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 8: I could learn all the things about him. 135 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 9: But unless i'd met him myself, I knew about him, 136 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 9: and that was my story. I had heard about God, 137 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 9: but I needed to make my own decision. For me, 138 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 9: reading the Bible became a core part of what my 139 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 9: journey was to making my own decision. 140 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: So tell me about the moment that that switched and 141 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: you made the decision to surrender your heart to God. 142 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: How did that? 143 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 9: The Bible came alive to me and the more I 144 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 9: read it, the more something in my heart stirred. 145 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: So did you go looking like, Okay, if this is real, 146 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: then you need to show me in the Word of God. 147 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: Where did you start reading? Do you remember? 148 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 9: I mean all through I'd print out my favorite verses. 149 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 9: I would read them every day, and that combined with 150 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 9: being a part of a local church. 151 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 8: It's like C. S. 152 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,679 Speaker 9: Lewis says when he talks about some people's journey of faith. 153 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 9: It wasn't necessarily a moment in time, but when the 154 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 9: sun rises through that you see everything else. 155 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 8: That's how it felt. 156 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 9: It was like the rising of the sun in my spirit, 157 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 9: where I'm like, God is real and this is. 158 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 8: The path that I'm choosing for my future. And of 159 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 8: course it was the best decision I made. 160 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: And how old were you when you made that? 161 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 8: Was seventeen. 162 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 5: What do you think is like the biggest obstacle for 163 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 5: young people reading the Bible? 164 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 9: Well, we are Bible readers are reading the Bible for 165 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 9: an averager three point five minutes to day, and on 166 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 9: social media, an average of six hours. But then when 167 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 9: you look at gen z that's it's skews. So you're 168 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 9: talking eight or nine hours a day on social media. 169 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: So scrolling on social media is average of six hours 170 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: a day. It is maybe reading their Bibles. Yeah, three 171 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: to five minutes. 172 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 9: No, it's killing us, honestly, and again for younger people 173 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 9: that might be eight, nine, ten hours a day. So 174 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 9: we've become a generation where we're distracted even just reading 175 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 9: in general. People like I don't read long form anymore. 176 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 9: So the idea of reading a Bible, there can be 177 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 9: this lack of confidence, a myth like do I need 178 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 9: to be a Jewish scholar a theologian. We need to 179 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 9: come back to this understanding that the Bible is everyone's book. 180 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 9: It's not meant to be confusing. It's written to everyone, 181 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 9: but you've got to give yourself to it, and you 182 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 9: do have to learn the framework and the tools of 183 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 9: how to read it. 184 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 8: So there is some learning involved. 185 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 4: I love what you also say about it gives you 186 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 4: your path. In other words, if you want to know 187 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 4: your future, your destiny, God will give you the light 188 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 4: to see that through the word of God. 189 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's the little lamp the motive here. Yes, it 190 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 9: comes from some one hundred and nineteen. Your word is 191 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 9: a lamp to my feet and a light to my path. 192 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 9: So that idea of lamp my immediate steps and a 193 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 9: light to my path. The light is important because it's 194 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 9: saying to us, if you want your little story of 195 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 9: your life to make sense, you need to see the 196 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 9: story of God. The Bible gives us the story of God, 197 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 9: of which when not the main character Jesus is that's 198 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 9: a very helpful and needed perspective. 199 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: Is you know? I was in getting my nails done 200 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: the other day and the nail text was a young 201 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: man and I asked him the question. Somehow it came 202 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: up about Charlie Kirk. He's talking about it, and he 203 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 1: was asking me about who he was, what he did. 204 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: It's explaining. I said, does anybody ever talk to you 205 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: about Jesus? And he said, no, that's amazing. And so 206 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: the first thing I said to him, well, first I've 207 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: I quoted John three sixteen and explained to the plan 208 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: of salvation and that this life is just a stepping 209 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: stone to the life to come and eternities a long time, 210 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: and Jesus paid the price for ust to them, you know, 211 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: go to heaven. And so he prayed with me. But 212 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: the next thing I said, ask him did he have 213 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: a Bible? And he didn't, And so I've ordered him 214 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: a Bible, which you know, Vietnamese Bible. And he's excited 215 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: about getting that. He said, I want to read it. 216 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: What will happen if someone watching, maybe they have questions 217 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: about what all were talking about. Maybe they've really never 218 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: sat down and read the Bible. Of course, it's good 219 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: to get a version you can understand new King James 220 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: version or the NIV or the Message Bible. I mean, 221 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: people argue about all of that. This one man, one 222 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: time in a revival service told me, I can't believe 223 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 1: you look at the New King James. If the King 224 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: James version was good enough for Paul and silence, do 225 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: not James. But why is it so important? And how 226 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: can it change our life to sit down and read 227 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: the word of God. 228 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 9: When you read the Bible, the data is showing us 229 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 9: anxiety can half, loneliness diminishes, your sense of purpose in 230 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 9: life increases. When they measure on the Harvard Flourishing Scale, 231 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 9: almost every measure in a human's life goes up simply 232 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 9: through reading it before you do anything else, just reading it. 233 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: And that's because it's alive. 234 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 8: It's a living, active and bowful. It's the Word of 235 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 8: God breathing. 236 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 3: It's that. 237 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,359 Speaker 8: That's the key journey. 238 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 9: Is that that the Bible is not like any other book. 239 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 9: It's not dead, it's not just knowledge. You're reading something 240 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 9: that when you read it, your spirit interacts with the 241 00:11:59,040 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 9: Holy Spirit. 242 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 8: That's a catalyst moment. 243 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you cannot even comprehend how powerful the Word 244 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 1: of God is and how it will change your life. 245 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: What are some of the scriptures? Maybe we can each 246 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: talk about this, y'all get ready, I'm coming to you. 247 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: What are some of the scriptures that have changed your 248 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: life as far as the Word of God is concerned. 249 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 8: Yeah, there are so many. I love the twenty third 250 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 8: Psalm personally. Sorry to steal it, well, Dorothy, I'm sorry, Dorothy. 251 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 8: The Lord is my shepherd. I shall not want. 252 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 9: We live in a culture of want, endless want, more, 253 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 9: endless desire. The idea that we can have a shepherd 254 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 9: that satisfies the true wanting of our heart, it's just 255 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 9: a beautiful sign. I encourage people read and memorize Psal. 256 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 9: I'm twenty three. 257 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: So good, so good. I'll start here April. 258 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: I think one of my favorites is John Tinton. The 259 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: Thief comes is still kill and destroy. But Jesus says, 260 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 2: don't get me mixed. 261 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: Up with him. 262 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: I've come to give you life and life more abundantly. 263 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: So I always measure my life if it's stealing, killing, 264 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 2: or story, and that's not from God, right. And if 265 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: it's giving life, then that's from God. 266 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: And it's just a scripture. I lived, and that's what 267 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: Jesus did. It's what it is. Annah. 268 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 4: Oh, there's so many I love the ninety first saw 269 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 4: me that dwell up in this secret place of the 270 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 4: most high shall of Vide, under the shadow of the 271 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 4: old Mighty. 272 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 3: Oh. 273 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 4: I love that one of my other favorites is in 274 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 4: John and Is. I have no greater joy than to 275 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 4: know that my children walk in the light. I speak 276 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 4: that every day over my over my siblings, over my grandchildren. 277 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: Well, you know, some people call Psalms ninety one, God's 278 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: no one one. It is right, It's definitely God's not 279 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: one one. You can remember that, Yeah, Psalm's ninety one one. Rachel. 280 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 5: One that me and Josh love is Ox went eight. 281 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 5: And you know, Dad always just talked to us about 282 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 5: like the power of the Holy Spirit, and that talks 283 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 5: about your receive power and the Holy Spirit comes upon you. 284 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 5: And the Holy Spirit is being our guide for everyday 285 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 5: life and helping us make decisions and giving us that 286 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 5: still small boy on the inside, helping us navigate this world. 287 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: That's so good. I have to get mine because Dorothy 288 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: or send him might steal it. But thank you, mine 289 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: is in Proverbs. You said, if you want wisdom, read 290 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: the Book of Proverbs. When my husband got saved at nineteen, 291 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: he came out of a crazy life. I mean drug addiction, 292 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: sexual addiction, pornography everything. God dramatically saved him at nineteen. 293 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: But the Lord told him read the Book of Proverbs. 294 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: I think he read it like six times. But anyway, 295 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: in Proverbs there's a great verse trust in the Lord 296 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: three five and six. With all your heart right, lean 297 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: not into your own understanding in all your ways, acknowledge 298 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: Him and he will direct your path. It starts with 299 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: trust in the Lord. But I have to also say, 300 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: when you're in a battle, just remember there's a scripture 301 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: that says no weapon formed against you show wism. When 302 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: you have Jesus in your heart and life, and really, 303 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: I mean that is the most important thing you can 304 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: do right now is just to invite Jesus in and 305 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: just say, dear Jesus, I've tried everything else. I'll give 306 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: you a try. Would you come into my heart forgive 307 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: me be lord of my life and help me understand 308 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: the word of God. I've heard that you died on 309 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: the cross. I believe you did paid the price for 310 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: my sin, and I receive you right now. It's just 311 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: so simple to do that. Do that in your heart 312 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: and open your heart right now and give him an 313 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: opportunity and get a Bible that you can understand and 314 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: start to read it and watch things dramatically change in 315 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: your life. Just like Ben was talking about, depression, anxiety, thoughts, 316 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: so suicide, confusion, strife, anger, unforgiveness, all of that is 317 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: in the Word of God, and the Bible tells us 318 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: exactly how to handle those situations, like there's one. Especially, 319 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: it's kind of difficult because the Bible operates in a 320 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: level that is not in this world. It operates in 321 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: a spiritual level. And so when it says love your 322 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: enemies and do good to them, that despitefully use you, 323 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: bless those that curse you. You'll be like what in 324 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: the world. But those mis principles that serve pass human understanding, yes, 325 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: and will change your life and give you peace in 326 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: a way that you cannot even imagine. Okay, I'm done 327 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: preaching doors. 328 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 9: So that's so good. 329 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 3: So good. 330 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: You know, another one of mine. 331 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 6: Since y'all all said so many good ones. 332 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: That's the good thing about the Bible. There have so 333 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: many good scriptures, scriptures. 334 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 6: That you can just imprint in your heart, memorize, and 335 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 6: they become real. 336 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: They become real throughout your entire day because you need it. 337 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 6: I know at work a lot of times, oh my goodness, 338 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 6: when things are so chaotic, you know, I just think 339 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 6: about a scripture and it just helps to soothe. But anyway, 340 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 6: Galatians to twenty, I've been crucified with Christ, but I 341 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 6: no longer live, but Christ lives in me. 342 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: Yes. Who that's a good one, will you saying mine is? 343 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 7: And I believe it's in Philippians. But it says be 344 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 7: anxious for nothing, those moments where we have anxiety, where 345 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 7: our mind's going trying to figure everything out, says be 346 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 7: anxious for nothing. But in everything, by prayer and petition 347 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 7: with thanksgiving. 348 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: Let your request be made known and to God. 349 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 7: Once we do that, then the peace of God, which 350 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 7: surpasses all unlesstanding, will guard our hearts and our minds 351 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 7: through Christ Jesus. 352 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 4: And what do most people have problems with their minds 353 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 4: and with their hearts. And that's the antecdote for that. 354 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 4: Then I knew a woman. She and her husband had 355 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 4: a foster home and they had any Word from ten 356 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 4: to twenty children with them most of the time, and 357 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 4: they were taking them to church and Full Gospel and 358 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 4: all of these different places. And the kids that had 359 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 4: problems with their grades, they said, read the Bible every day, 360 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 4: and they assigned them the the Book of Proverbs. Read 361 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 4: a chapter every day and your grades will go up. 362 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 4: And they said, you mean, we don't have to study harder, 363 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 4: read the Bible, and what your grades go up? And 364 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 4: every single time that happened, and. 365 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: You, I mean, that's data that is available to see 366 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: what reading the Word of God, even what it does 367 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: to your brain. That's right, right, That's what. 368 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 8: Happened every area of life. 369 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 9: So when you think about that our mental health increases, 370 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 9: how can that be the case. It says, there's something 371 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 9: special that happens in the human heart when we read scripture. 372 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 9: And therefore, I think it's a shame that we've neglected 373 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 9: it culturally so much. As we're doing all of these 374 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 9: other things. The Bible is like, well, maybe there's some 375 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 9: good quotes or inspirational tidbits or suggestions. 376 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 8: It's like, hang on a second, that's not what the 377 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 8: Bible is. 378 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 9: The Bible needs to be re elevated to where it 379 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 9: should be in our lives, the book above all books, 380 00:18:58,720 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 9: and the Word of God to us. 381 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 5: There some practical ways for people to read the Bible 382 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 5: and study it for themselves. 383 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 9: Yeah, well I've got I've got one key one for you, Rachel. 384 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 9: This is the one that I tell everybody when you're 385 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 9: wanting to go deeper in Bible reading. We have a 386 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 9: verse of the day culture I love versus the day 387 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 9: of done Verse of the day. If you can do 388 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 9: that account from the right, just took the verse of 389 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 9: the day. If we can add to that, and there's 390 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 9: a there's a theory behind this, But if you can 391 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 9: add to that chapter of the week, that matters, because 392 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 9: to understand the Bible, you have to understand context. The 393 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 9: same way that if you took one stippet from our conversation, 394 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 9: we can take that snippet. 395 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 8: And mold it to mean anything. 396 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 9: So we have to read longer form so that we 397 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 9: can understand the original intent of that author and what 398 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 9: they were trying to say, not just what we wanted 399 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 9: to say. 400 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 8: So think chapters, not versus. Chapter is actually not that long. 401 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 3: It's not that long. 402 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: Well some of them are. I've gotten some They had 403 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: forty two verses. Is this ever good? And it's good? 404 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's great. 405 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 8: That's so good. 406 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: We read a chapter every day, my husband and I 407 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: we pray together. And you're writing context. I remember I 408 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: used to always quote that scripture there is therefore now 409 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus. But 410 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: if you go on to that, it's but those that walk, 411 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: you know that those that don't walk after the flesh, 412 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: but after the spirit. In other words, there's no condemnation 413 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: to those who are living their life by the spirit. 414 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: But you can just quote that and then leave the 415 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: other part out. I know, I was just sitting here 416 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: thinking about someone watching, and you actually know the Lord, 417 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: you're saved, and the scripture that you need to remember 418 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: is that I can do all things through Christ who 419 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: strengthens me. How many times have you all prayed that prayer? Oh, 420 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: I mean there's something in front of me and I'm like, 421 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: there's no way. They're like, oh, yes, I can do 422 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: all things through Christ who strengthens me. There's so many 423 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: powerful script in the Word of God. So who needs 424 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: to get the book? Well, before we do that, since 425 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: we're talking about the Bible, I'm going to give you 426 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: an opportunity to get a Bible. 427 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 3: So let's watch this. 428 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Some books deserve to be held, cherished, remembered. 429 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: This one is more than that. It's a place to 430 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: meet God. 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It's a great gift, by the way, 441 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: Teddy two grandchildren to children. 442 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 443 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 9: Well, it's a part of a broader campaign called Bible 444 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 9: Revival dot co. And we're inviting churches all around the world, 445 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 9: Christian schools. We just had a Christian school order a 446 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 9: thousand of these as a gift to all of their seniors. 447 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 9: Businesses if you want to bring your staff in and 448 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 9: help them engage in the scripture. And it's a thirty 449 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 9: day campaign, a journey to help people engage in scripture 450 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 9: for themselves. And so if you're a grandparent, a parent, 451 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 9: buy one for your entire family. I feel like this 452 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 9: is a great reading base right here, buy the pink one, 453 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 9: right there is a black one as well, But particularly 454 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 9: I would say churches, these make great gifts for new 455 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 9: Christians church visitors. Yes, we can give them a Bible. 456 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 9: I'm encouraging pastors give them a practical guide as well 457 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 9: as the Bible, what to do to help them understand 458 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 9: how to read it for themselves. 459 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: You know you've got the thirty Day devotional in the back, 460 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: like here's stay Sick. The passage is Galatians six'. NINE 461 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: i love. This let us not become weary in doing, 462 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: good for at the proper time we will reap a 463 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: harvest if we do not give. Up, now the laws 464 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: of reciprocity are so true in The, bible in that 465 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: when you do, good when you make decisions and do 466 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: the right thing in the face of, adversity when you 467 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: so seed into someone or help someone or bless, someone 468 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: it's going to come. 469 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 3: Back. 470 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: Okay so then you say in the, praum you give the, 471 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: passage then you give the. Process reflect on a time 472 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: when perseverance and doing good challenge. You how many times 473 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: you just SAY i do not want to bless? Them 474 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: how does the promise of a future harvest motivate you 475 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: to continue your? Efforts and you give a, Prayer Dear, 476 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: god in moments of weariness and, discouragement remind me of 477 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: the harvest that awaits faithful, perseverance strengthen my resolve to do. 478 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: Good trusting in your time and your, promise help me 479 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: to sow kindness in love without, hesitation knowing that you 480 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: will bring forth growth and do season In jesus. 481 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 8: Name. 482 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: Amen so you're just kind of. Teaching that's like a Six. 483 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 8: Yeah imagine if you've got the book and you have 484 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 8: all thirty. Days, yeah BUT. 485 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: I just wanted to give. People and then the first 486 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: part of it is where you're really teaching about how 487 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: to ingest understand The bible in a way that is. 488 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 9: Relevant, yeah there's very practical tools and. Frameworks and then also, 489 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 9: FUNDAMENTALLY i want people to help to help them know 490 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 9: how to relate to The. Bible what's their relationship with 491 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 9: The word Of. God so it helps people understand their 492 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 9: approach and. Posture and then there's a whole range of 493 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 9: different practical tools because if people only knew all the 494 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 9: different ways that you can study The. Bible it's not 495 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 9: just For bible college, students it's not just for. 496 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 8: Pastors The bible is everyone's. 497 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: Book how did this change for your children when they 498 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: begin to read and understand The? Bible, like what's this 499 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: story where they came to The, dad. 500 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 8: We have struggled to do house devotions with our. Kids 501 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 8: they just get. 502 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 9: Distracted it turns into, chaos and then we feel like 503 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 9: bad parents are Bad. 504 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: Christians my dad used to make us sit around and 505 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: we'd be, like. 506 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 8: Oh it's just like. 507 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 9: THAT i just found doing this one, thing not me 508 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 9: reading The bible out, loud getting your kids just to. 509 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 8: Read The bible out. Loud so even. 510 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 9: If you don't have some great teaching that goes with, 511 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 9: it just sitting and having your kids read the. Scripture 512 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 9: and then at, thirteen for each of my, KIDS i 513 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 9: bought them a beautiful Leatherbound. 514 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 8: BIBLE i took them on a. 515 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 9: TRIP i wrote them a, letter AND i presented That 516 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 9: bible and, said this is the greatest. 517 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 8: GIFT i, mean it GETS i get emotional thinking about. 518 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,719 Speaker 9: This this is the greatest GIFT i can give you 519 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 9: as a. 520 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 8: Father other words in this, book, well and. 521 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: TWO i wanted as to mention that for, children there 522 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 1: are so Many bibles out there with. Pictures, yes, now 523 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: j To Bray brown right. Here he loves hands And. 524 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: Bible he loves to watch them to read The, bible 525 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: but he wants. Pictures so he. 526 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 5: Knows The bible so well that at his school the 527 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 5: kids asked the, teacher could you to Teach? 528 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: Bible so the teacher allowed. 529 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 5: Him and also they would always comment, me that's Good bible, 530 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 5: Too So i'm proud of so. 531 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: Good, WELL i want you to Remember god is in 532 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,719 Speaker 1: far away he's speaking to you right now through his. 533 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: Word i'm telling you there's so many TIMES i remember 534 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: WHEN i was probably like seventeen or, eighteen it's having 535 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: a tough, time like you can have a tough. Time 536 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: at seventeen, eighteen the whole world was falling in AND 537 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: i REMEMBER i went to The bible and that scripture 538 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: come unto, me all you that labor and are heavy, 539 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: laden AND i will give you. Rest And jesus was, saying, 540 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: hey let's give this to. Me, okay you Know i've got. 541 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: It so he will guide you through every season of your. 542 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: Life and the word Of god is. Crucial and if 543 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: you're watching, today you need. Prayer that's why that prayer 544 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: line numbers on the. Screen if you prayed and Invited 545 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: jesus into your heart with me, EARLIER i want you 546 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: to call because guess What i'm going to send. You 547 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: The book Of john is one of the, gospels has 548 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: A qr code at the end of every, Chapter doctor 549 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: jen gets a wonderful. Theologian we'll explain that chapter to. 550 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: You and that's just our way of saying thank. You 551 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: so if you pray Invited jesus, in let us know 552 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: we don't need anything from. You we just want to 553 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: be a blessing to. You, WELL i do want to 554 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: Thank benjamin for joining us. Today be sure you pick 555 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: up a copy of his Book how To read And 556 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: study The bible for. Yourself what a great thing for 557 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: Like christian schools Or christian universities to give to the 558 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: seniors or you, know if you've got a senior graduating 559 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,959 Speaker 1: like let this be part of the gift along with 560 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: a little check right in. There you know we're gonna 561 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: give them a little bit of money and want a. 562 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: Blessing that could be the pink ones for the, girls 563 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: and you got the black, One, ben the black one 564 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: for the. 565 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 7: Guys. 566 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: Yes and for more information on, this you can visit 567 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: him At Bible revival dot coo and as, always make 568 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 1: sure to follow us on all social. Media subscribe to 569 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: our YouTube channel for full episodes and exclusive, content and 570 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: let us know how Table talk is touching your. Life 571 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: we love hearing from you or she had also listened 572 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: to The joni Table talk, podcast available now on all major. 573 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: PLATFORMS i want to thank you for. Watching thank you, 574 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: Ladies thank You ben A Bible. Revival the revival has already, 575 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: started like you mentioned what's going on in college campuses 576 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: around the. World god is touching the hearts of our young, 577 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: people and The bible is an intricate part of. That 578 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: thank you so much for. Watching we'll see you next, 579 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: time by. 580 00:28:25,240 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 10: Bye for, today. 581 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: We Know god can use anyone anywhere to change the. 582 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: World in today's guests are here to show us that 583 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: when we say yeah To, god he can multiply our 584 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: lives beyond anything we ever. Imagined before we get to 585 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: that joined me around the table Is April. Simon how are? 586 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: YOU i am doing? 587 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 2: Great and you know, what one yes can change everything yet, 588 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 2: better just takes a yes an obedient. Heart, man everything 589 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 2: can change. 590 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: You don't always think about your Dad, John SEE i 591 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: mean one yes and look at how he changed the. 592 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: World Thank god and a. Kindle how are. 593 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 4: You delighted to be? Here AND i Love Kingdom? Builders 594 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 4: yes you. 595 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 8: DID i love this. 596 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 4: Couple We freda AND i administered in their church In 597 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 4: vali and went to their lovely home on the. Mountaintop 598 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 4: it's a delightful. 599 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: Time and you just suffered For. Jesus jesus In Why, 600 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: dorothy how are? You i'm just so. Excited, yeah it's 601 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: just been a great. Day and has it been a 602 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: great day so? Far it has been a, great great. 603 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 11: Day it's a long, story but WHAT i will say 604 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 11: is That god's love show up in so many waste 605 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 11: of people And i'm just so, honored so, good so thank. 606 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: You, Joony, well you are a. Blessing Rachel Lamb. 607 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 5: Brown you, Know dorothy is always the joy of the, 608 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 5: artist her, strength and she always carries that joy everywhere she. 609 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: Goes that's. Amazing that's the kind of PERSON i want to. 610 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: BE i know you are that kind of. Person Cindy, 611 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: johnson how are you? 612 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 7: Hello happy to be here today and happy to have this. 613 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 7: GUEST i had the privilege of meeting, them actually with 614 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 7: you And marcus Of hawaii and write. 615 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: Them yes they. Are we're talking about our dear, friends 616 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: Doctor James morocco and his Wife. Colleen welcome to the. 617 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 3: Table it's a joy for us to be. 618 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: Here it's always so good to have. 619 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 3: You the one thorn, man. 620 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: But such a voice of. WISDOM i, MEAN i love 621 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: to pick his brain Whenever i'm with, him asking me. Questions, 622 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: well From hawaii to The, nations Doctor james And Colleen 623 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: morocco have Seen god do the miraculous and today their 624 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: testimony of revival and radical obedience will encourage you that 625 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: nothing is impossible With. God, well we wanted to take 626 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: our audience back to the beginning of where you were. 627 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: Born kind of you're calling. 628 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 3: ME i was born In, Calcutta. India WHO i knew? That, 629 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 3: yeah my parents were missionaries. There in fact before, well 630 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 3: The bontains took my dad's. Place what happened Is dad's 631 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 3: was there for two. Terms he opened A bengali church In. 632 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 3: Calcutta that church is still going on. Today and then 633 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 3: he opened An english church and that church is still 634 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 3: going on. Todays that came After bontangs came and lived 635 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 3: with us for a year a year and a, half 636 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 3: And god spoke To dad and, said give it to The. 637 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 3: Bontains they'd come out just to be In evangelis for 638 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 3: a few, weeks but they stayed In god's. Heart was you, 639 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 3: know he Got god's heart for the city'd weep a. 640 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 3: Lot Then dad had a call to The. Philippines he 641 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 3: was In india for two terms and then he went 642 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 3: to The, philippines pastor to church And Cebu city for a. 643 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 3: Year then became a traveling of ages throughout The philippines 644 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 3: and then came back to THE. Us that's when we 645 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 3: lived In texas for that brief period of. TIME i 646 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 3: went To Highland Park High. School and then he was 647 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 3: called back to The. Philippines and at this time he 648 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 3: went back as the pastor of the. Church That leicester 649 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 3: summer all Started Bethel, temple which at that time was 650 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 3: one of the largest churches in. 651 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: The, nation had that great. 652 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 3: Miracle well what, Happened brother some Ar al was starting the. 653 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 3: Church thereat man Of. God he was a great man 654 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 3: Of god and he they had leift In. Erickson they 655 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 3: had a great revival there and he was starting the 656 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 3: church at That, well he's riding and driving in his 657 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 3: car and he hears this report about a woman who 658 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 3: was In bilabad prison who's being a bit literally she 659 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 3: would start screaming and they would see BikeE marks on her, 660 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 3: hand but there was nothing, there no one, there and 661 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 3: they would the bike marks would come over her. Body 662 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 3: and so they brought in physicians and, doctors AND i 663 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 3: mean it was scary because they they were right there seeing. 664 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 3: This so they're telling it on the radio and The 665 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 3: Holy spirit, SAYS i want you to go to that 666 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 3: prison and command that demon to. Leave so he fastened 667 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 3: and prayed and asked if he could, come and they 668 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 3: lied him in and he cast the demon. Out, well 669 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 3: that thing literally shifted because it became the number one 670 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 3: thing to talk about throughout The philippines because. 671 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: All those people had seen the, Evidence oh, my something 672 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: that was not explainable where this woman was being bitten 673 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: and there was nothing. 674 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 3: There and they had they even had under her because 675 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 3: she would fight this, thing and they had hair samples 676 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 3: under her fingernails that were not. HUMAN i, mean it 677 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:01,959 Speaker 3: was a. 678 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: Trip and so when he went, in people, were, oh 679 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: they were all in cir people were, afraid, Right oh they're. 680 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 3: Afraid they're all in, there you, KNOW i, mean you, 681 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 3: know they're all watching. 682 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: It so he goes in, there casademon, out and it's 683 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: all over the news and then a revival breaks. 684 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 4: Out right that sound. 685 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: Familiar that's What god. 686 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 4: Does and he wrote about it in a. 687 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 3: Book, Yeah bitten By devils is the name of the. 688 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 3: Book and he was a great man and he was 689 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 3: a close friend of our. Family in, fact he did 690 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 3: my dad's funeral and Mawim dad joined my staff in 691 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 3: nineteen eighty. 692 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: Four we're jumping. Ahead so you got you were born In, 693 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: india and then your dad is going. 694 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 3: To The philippines and he was there till nineteen Eighty in, 695 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 3: fact what, Happened, well where were you at in all? This, 696 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 3: well what? HAPPENED i went to college In, California. Okay 697 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 3: and one of the most amazing stories IS i worked 698 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 3: myself across The. 699 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 4: Pacific on A i think this is a phenomenal. Stort, 700 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 4: now how old were you when you? 701 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 3: Did i'm seventeen years old. 702 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 4: And you were on cargo. 703 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 3: SHIPS i was on a cargo ship Going. 704 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 4: Can you imagine, this letting your seventeen year old do? 705 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 3: THIS i know. ABSOLUTELY i got to tell you the 706 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 3: stories you want to hear. It, yes it was one 707 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 3: of the great moments in my. Life what happened is, 708 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 3: that you, know we were. Missionaries we didn't have a 709 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 3: lot of money for me to go to college or 710 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 3: even get over to. COLLEGE i had brothers that were 711 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,479 Speaker 3: in college In, california AND i was going to visit. 712 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 3: Them SO i heard that you could go to The 713 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 3: american embassy and wait there and if a Sailor american 714 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,439 Speaker 3: sailor got left behind in one of the. Ports if 715 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,919 Speaker 3: you went, there a ship's captain would come and hire 716 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 3: you to take that guy's. Place SO i was. Waiting 717 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 3: i'd been waiting there for about two. Weeks and it 718 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 3: was a rainy Dale i'll never forget In manila at that, 719 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 3: time it flooded horribly and it was a rainy. Day 720 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 3: and all of a, sudden the ship's captain comes in 721 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 3: and he points to, me says, you and he pointed 722 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 3: to another guy and said you get to the. Pier 723 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 3: and it was just a real short. Time, WELL i got, 724 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 3: home my parents weren't. HOME i had already packed my 725 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 3: bas BECAUSE i BELIEVED i was going to go grab my. 726 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 3: Stuff and just AS i was ready to go to the, 727 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 3: Pier dad showed, up jumped in the. Vehicle he took 728 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 3: me to the, pier and OFF i was. GONE i 729 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 3: didn't get to Kiss debbie good. BYE i didn't get 730 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 3: to say bye to. Anybody i'm on a ship and 731 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 3: deb is your. Sister debie's my. 732 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: Sister and so you were born again at that, point, 733 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: though YES i. 734 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 3: WAS i came to The lord real. YOUNG i got 735 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 3: filled with the spirit WHEN i was a senior in high, 736 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 3: school SO i not only was, saved BUT i was 737 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 3: filled with the holy ghosts at that. Time SO i 738 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 3: got on board the ship and lo and, behold the 739 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 3: ship's going To. Vietnam it was charted by The american 740 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 3: government download. Cargo this is the height of The Vietnam 741 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 3: war in nineteen sixty. Seven and so we get Into. 742 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 3: Vietnam our first, port we were out in the harbor 743 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 3: and to get on land you had to take a 744 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 3: little boat to. Land AND i remember it was the 745 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 3: first TIME i was able to get off the. Ship 746 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 3: SO i went to. Port there was An american base, 747 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 3: there AND i hitchhiked BECAUSE i wanted to go to. 748 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 3: CHURCH i think it was A wednesday night or, something 749 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 3: and it was pouring right, now stopping. WET i went 750 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 3: to this chapel and the chaplain was. PREACHING i don't 751 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 3: remember what he, preached BUT i sat in the back 752 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 3: of that church stopping what called putting magazines in my. 753 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 3: Shirt AND i was there in. Church it just was 754 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 3: such a moment for, me AND i hitchhiked. Back the 755 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 3: only problem WHEN i hitchhiked back to the, pier there 756 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 3: was sniper fire and the little boat that would take 757 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 3: me back to the ship was not, running and SO i. 758 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 3: HEAR i am all, alone seventeen year old kid in 759 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 3: the middle of a war. ZONE i didn't know where 760 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 3: to go or what to. DO i saw a shack 761 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 3: and a table was. THERE i, figured, well IF i 762 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,439 Speaker 3: get under the, table if, somebody if a vidcom come 763 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 3: in and they, shoot Maybe i'll Have my life would be. 764 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 3: Protected and SO i laid down under that thing went to. 765 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 3: Sleep and of COURSE i got up the next morning 766 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 3: And i'm still here and got on board the. Ship 767 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 3: but WHEN i got a board, ship we went To, Quinnom, 768 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 3: vietnam and they were unloading, cargo AND i, SAID i 769 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 3: started praying at the back of the. Ship i'd stay 770 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 3: there with my ukulelean And i'd sing AND i was. 771 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 3: PRAYING i, Said, God i'd sure like to go back 772 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 3: To manila at least one time to say bye to. 773 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 3: Everybody AND i began to pray that. Way, WELL i 774 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 3: was what they call a. MESSMAN i served the officers their. 775 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 3: Food there was only one Other christian on board the. 776 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 3: Ship he worked in the in the engine. Room and 777 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 3: the ship was full of. PERVERTS i mean all they 778 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 3: did every port they went to was. Prostitutes it was 779 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:50,760 Speaker 3: everything you could. Imagine it's. Horrible So I'm i'm talking 780 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 3: to these. OFFICERS i, said is there any possible way 781 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 3: that the ship could get To manila on its way 782 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,280 Speaker 3: back to The United. States they, said it's this ship 783 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 3: is charted by The american. Government if it goes off 784 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 3: charter at any, time the owners of the ship have 785 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 3: to pay a lot of money to The american. Government 786 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 3: they're not going to do. That so, ANYWAYS i kept, 787 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 3: praying And loan builds something very. Strange the ship had 788 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 3: been in the harbor In manila for two weeks getting on, 789 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 3: stuff but for some, reason they didn't get enough water 790 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 3: on the. Ship so when they came To, vietnam they 791 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 3: were low on, water and SO i, said is there 792 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 3: any possibility we'd get water In. MANILA i, said it's. 793 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 3: Impossible the barge is going to. Come we'll get filled. Up, 794 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 3: well the barge didn't show up and they left port 795 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 3: low on. Water. Wow and so a day out Of, 796 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 3: vietnam come to find out they were headed For. Manila, 797 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 3: so you, Know i'm so, Excited but every Time i'd get, 798 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 3: excited you, know there'd be some. Opposite it's. Impossible the 799 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 3: ship will never even be cleared by. Customs we'll get out. 800 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 3: There we'll be way out in the and the barge 801 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 3: would come fill us up and we'll be gone in 802 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 3: just a few hours because we're going off. Charter, well and, 803 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 3: behold we land In. Manila and if you've ever been To, 804 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 3: manila there's a. Wall it's a breakwater. Wall we were 805 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 3: so far out that we were way past. That and 806 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 3: we got there late in the afternoon and we're sitting. 807 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,280 Speaker 3: There the barge comes up fills it up with. Water 808 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 3: So i'm, Said, Priano, jesus we got this. Close you 809 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 3: got to let me. Off and then all of a, 810 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 3: sudden the little boat comes up and a guy gets, 811 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 3: off comes up the gang plan and they cleared the. 812 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 3: Ship it was a customs official working after, ours and 813 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 3: there were a lot of ships in the. Harbor they 814 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 3: chose our ship and they cleared our, ship which was. 815 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,919 Speaker 3: Incredible it was a. Miracle so the. Captains the captain, says, 816 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,359 Speaker 3: well you can have some time to go on shore 817 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,359 Speaker 3: if you. Want, WELL i had to work that, night 818 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 3: but somebody took my place AND i got on. Shore 819 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 3: i'm telling you, what it was. Great and SO i 820 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 3: got into taxi AND i went. Home little DID i 821 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 3: know what was about to. Happen what had happened was 822 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 3: the church was planning a farewell party for, me BUT 823 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 3: i hopped up and left before they had the farewell. 824 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 3: Party and there was a, Sailor Frankie lane was his, 825 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 3: name who was going back to The United states and 826 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 3: he was in the, military and he was going back 827 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 3: to this AND i, said the very NIGHT i came 828 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 3: and at the very TIME i came, in they were 829 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 3: having a farewell party for, him and an honorary farewell 830 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 3: party for me at my. HOUSE i saw. Everybody everybody was. 831 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 3: Shot you were. 832 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,879 Speaker 1: Just like When peter got out of the, prison that's, 833 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: Right and they were, LIKE i couldn't Be peter's no 834 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 1: way he could be. 835 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 3: Here and it was so what. HAPPENED i said goodbye to, 836 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 3: everyone you, know AND i got back on board that, 837 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,399 Speaker 3: ship and it dawned on, me the goodness Of, god 838 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 3: it's one of THE. Us it's JUST i preach you. 839 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 3: GOODNESS i thought about. This of all the times for 840 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 3: the ship to not get, water they didn't get it In. 841 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 3: Vietnam of all the ports in the whole world they went, 842 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 3: to they went To. Manila out of all the times 843 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,919 Speaker 3: for the customs officials to work over time and to 844 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,320 Speaker 3: touch one ship in that. Harbor there were many. Ships 845 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 3: they went to our ship and they cleared the ship 846 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 3: out of all the times to have a. Party they 847 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 3: had at the very, night at the very time at my. 848 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 1: House and what lesson did that teach you at seventeen 849 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:33,839 Speaker 1: that you would never forget even. 850 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 3: Today the goodness Of god and the prayers and the power. 851 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 4: Prayers you're all about, That and the fact that he was. 852 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 4: Seventeen that's just what blows my. 853 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 3: Mind they protected me with all these. Berberts it was, 854 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 3: amazing you, know because you, Know i've known the pastors 855 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 3: kids that have failed morally because they've gotten into situations like. 856 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 3: That And god was so kind to, me AND i 857 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,399 Speaker 3: even made some money to help me in college WHEN 858 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 3: i got. There, God he's so. Good that's. 859 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,240 Speaker 1: Amazing, well we're going to Bring colleen into the. Pictures 860 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: say right, here some books deserve to be, held, cherished. 861 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,320 Speaker 1: Remembered this one is more than. That it's a place 862 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 1: to Meet. 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Morocco one of the THINGS i, said you 869 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 1: hear so much about prayer as, well so the goodness Of, 870 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: god but the fact that you were praying at seventeen 871 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 1: and actually Saw god answer those prayers in such a 872 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 1: miraculous way and then tell us about it's. Beautiful she 873 00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,040 Speaker 1: was had red hair WHEN i met, her beautiful, redhead. 874 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 8: And raise the. 875 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 3: REDHEAD i love the red. Hair that's why she still has. 876 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 8: It, however. 877 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 1: A strawberry blonde now out of a. 878 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:10,320 Speaker 9: Bottle. 879 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 3: Beautiful we've been married fifty four years and the greatest 880 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 3: Skift god gave me next To. Jesus so what? 881 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 1: Happened how did you meet this? 882 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 3: Girl met her in college and we got married two 883 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 3: days AFTER i, graduated dated for. 884 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 1: Bud, wait, well tell me what you thought about, Her, 885 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 1: like how did you? Know, like, hey LOOK i want 886 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 1: TO i want to date this. 887 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,879 Speaker 3: Girl my problem was the same problem most men. Have we're, dumb, 888 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 3: dumb you KNOW i should have married her soon AFTER 889 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:43,800 Speaker 3: i saw, her but it took me three and a 890 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 3: half three and a half, years oh, my and we 891 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 3: got married two days AFTER i. GRADUATED i, know that's 892 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 3: WHAT i. 893 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 1: Say So, colleen what did he do that was? Dumb 894 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:57,800 Speaker 1: tell us he couldn't make up his? Mind and why was? 895 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: It you know a lot of times preachers can like 896 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 1: that because the next pastor has a girl at the 897 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: church and they that they should. Meet got to make 898 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: sure you're marrying the will Of. 899 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 3: GOD i, know it's all of. That and you, know 900 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 3: and you have a misconception of. Love you, know you 901 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 3: think love is just this this better of the, heart 902 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 3: and you're there is. That it's you, know this infatuation 903 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 3: that's very. Real BUT i realized after a, WHILE i, 904 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 3: said you, know if that's, love Then i'd die of 905 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,800 Speaker 3: a heart attack in a few days. After AND i, realized, 906 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 3: no love is a commitment and a decision and unawareness 907 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 3: that you're going to spend a lifetime with. Somebody and 908 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 3: one of the one thing That jumie deeply to her 909 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 3: was not just her, looks but she had a capacity to. 910 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 3: Love and there's some people just don't have that, capacity. 911 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 1: But she did in the way that she would love 912 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 1: people with you when you go on to. Pastor, so 913 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,760 Speaker 1: how did you get To maui and suffer For jesus 914 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 1: all this year In? 915 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 3: Hawaii, well what happened AS i went TO USC i 916 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 3: did a master's Green Ancient history on my way to a. 917 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 3: PhD BECAUSE i wanted to be a professor on the 918 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,800 Speaker 3: college campus and witness from the inside of the. Campus, 919 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 3: well so what happened IS i got, there finished the 920 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 3: masters and Then god speaks to. Me he, SAYS i 921 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 3: didn't call you to be a. PROFESSOR i called you 922 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 3: to be a. Pastor so that's WHEN i went To 923 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,240 Speaker 3: Fuller Theological. SEMINAR i did another master's and a doctorate, 924 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 3: there and in the course of that, TIME i became 925 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 3: a youth pastor at a church In, Wilmington, california with 926 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 3: a man by the name Of Roy Sap you may 927 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,320 Speaker 3: have known. Him, oh, YEAH a great, man a great. 928 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 3: Man and we worked together for five years there and 929 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 3: then he was called to be the pastor A First 930 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:44,360 Speaker 3: assembly Of god In, honolulu and he asked IF i 931 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 3: would go with him and make a decision as to 932 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 3: whether we would go. Together and at the TIME i 933 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 3: was In Hong kong during the summer of nineteen sixties 934 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,280 Speaker 3: nineteen seventy. SIX i was there because my brother pastored 935 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,799 Speaker 3: and he was taking a trip to the mainland with 936 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,840 Speaker 3: the singing, group and so was my dad was with. 937 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 3: Them SO i pastored both In philippines and In Hong. 938 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,720 Speaker 3: Kong and WHILE i was An Hong kong you called 939 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 3: AND i, said, Okay i'll change my. Ticket i'll call 940 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 3: To honolulu check it. Out went To honolulu AND i 941 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 3: was at a In waikiki on a, veranda and The 942 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 3: lord spoke to, me, Said i'm going to build a 943 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 3: great church in the. CITY i want you to be 944 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 3: a part of. 945 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 1: It anything did become a great, church it. 946 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 3: Did what. HAPPENED i went back To. California bestap asked, 947 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 3: me what Did god say to. YOU i told him 948 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 3: it was exactly What god said to. Him we resigned the, 949 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 3: church went to went To, honolulu and that was in 950 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 3: nineteen seventy. Six jamie was only a year and a 951 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 3: half and we were there four. Years and in nineteen seventy, 952 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 3: Nine god spoke to me SAID i want you to 953 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 3: leave your own. Top and my dad calls me from 954 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,839 Speaker 3: The philippines and, says, Listen i'm thinking That god has 955 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 3: a time for us to, leave AND i would like 956 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 3: you to take our. Place, well it's the largest church 957 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,279 Speaker 3: in the nation at the, time and we, Prayed we 958 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 3: honestly Sought god and, prayed And god said. NO i, thought, oh, 959 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:14,239 Speaker 3: well that's. STRANGE i, Said, Dad i'm. Sorry and then 960 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 3: out of the, BLUE i get a call from a 961 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,759 Speaker 3: church In Huntington. Beach AND i ministered In Huntington beach 962 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 3: on the streets there AND i, thought, WOW i didn't 963 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 3: think anybody even knew my. Name they called and asked 964 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 3: IF i would consider being their. Pastor they flew me. 965 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 3: OVER i was working on my doctor and, anyway SO 966 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,880 Speaker 3: i had to go, over and SO i preached for. 967 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 3: It in the middle of my morning. Service i'm preaching 968 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 3: And god speaks to. Me he, says don't let them 969 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,319 Speaker 3: vote on, you because normally they would vote on the. 970 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 3: Best so right AFTER i, FINISHED i went to the 971 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 3: board members said don't vote on. Me SO i, said 972 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,799 Speaker 3: try other people out and then if you still want 973 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 3: me to call. Me, well about three weeks, later to 974 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 3: make a long story, SHORT i got a call from 975 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 3: a little church On maui who had lost their, pastor 976 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 3: and it was a church that was about eighty adults 977 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 3: and twenty. Kids AND i didn't want to go there 978 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 3: on A sunday morning BECAUSE i didn't know if it 979 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:17,800 Speaker 3: Was god's. Will Because god was using me In honolulu 980 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,359 Speaker 3: and the church there had now become the largest church 981 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 3: in the. State and SO i went on A sunday 982 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,800 Speaker 3: night and there were thirty people there in church On sunday, 983 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 3: night which was a huge crowd because normally there was only. 984 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 3: TWELVE i Preached colin AND i saw The island Of 985 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:36,879 Speaker 3: may we'd never been there, before and minding my own. 986 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 3: Business when Next SUNDAY i get a call from one 987 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 3: of the board members and he says. CONGRATULATIONS i, said 988 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 3: congratulations on what he, Said we just elected you to be. 989 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,040 Speaker 3: ONE i, SAID i don't know IF i want to 990 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:53,759 Speaker 3: be your. Pastor SO i, Said i'll tell you What i'll, 991 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 3: do all fast and pray for a week and i'll 992 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 3: come Next sunday. Morning let you know Whether i'll be your. Pastor. 993 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,920 Speaker 3: Well during that because this fasting, Prayer god gave me 994 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,680 Speaker 3: a vision of a massive church On mally that would 995 00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 3: touch the. World and at that, time ALL i could 996 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 3: see in the natural was a tiny little, work but 997 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,319 Speaker 3: in the SPIRIT i saw something. Different so WHEN i went, 998 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,360 Speaker 3: THERE i knew That god had given me a. Vision 999 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:19,880 Speaker 3: BUT i knew IF i had a vision but the 1000 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 3: people didn't have, It i'd waste my. Time AND i 1001 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 3: didn't need a good. JOB i had a good. Job 1002 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 3: SO i did Something i'd never heard anybody. Do at 1003 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 3: the end of the, SERVICE i gave everybody a. BALLOT 1004 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 3: i preached on. Vision gave everybody a ballot and, said, 1005 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 3: look if you embrace this, vision, right, yes if you 1006 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 3: don't say. No AND i remember counting the. Ballance it 1007 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,400 Speaker 3: was overwhelmingly. Yes SO i knew that people had caught the. 1008 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,279 Speaker 3: Vision THEN i went to the board because they controlled the, 1009 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,800 Speaker 3: money and there wasn't Any there was the entire income 1010 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 3: of the, church now once you, see was fifty thousand a, 1011 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 3: YEAR i mean four thousand a. Month they couldn't even 1012 00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 3: pay my. Salary and out of that you had to 1013 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 3: pay the, pastor all the, missionaries all the up keeper 1014 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,920 Speaker 3: of the. CHURCH i mean it WAS i. Thought SO 1015 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,560 Speaker 3: i REALIZED i didn't go there for the. SALARY i 1016 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,360 Speaker 3: went there because of the. Vision BUT i needed to test, 1017 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 3: them and they didn't have money to pay, me BUT 1018 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 3: i tested them BECAUSE i knew we'd real. Quickly SO i, 1019 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 3: said you know, WHAT i need a full time. Secretary 1020 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,279 Speaker 3: there was no church On maui that had a full time. 1021 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,920 Speaker 3: Secretary largest church on the island other Than catholic churches 1022 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 3: was two hundred, people and SO i, SAID i need 1023 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,440 Speaker 3: a full time. Secretary it was real, quiet just like 1024 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 3: it is right. Now finally one guy pops up and, says, 1025 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 3: pastor whatever you want to, do that's all we're going to. 1026 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 8: Do. 1027 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 3: Wow and they voted to hire me a full time. 1028 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 3: Secretary AND i knew that they were willing to take 1029 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:55,880 Speaker 3: the step of faith finance THAT i could. Come AND i. 1030 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:57,879 Speaker 3: Came it took me about two months to get. THERE 1031 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,279 Speaker 3: i had the church, outs i'd repainted at a new 1032 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 3: sign put, up AND i prayed and, Said god double 1033 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,840 Speaker 3: the church the First, sunday And god doubled. It and 1034 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,719 Speaker 3: within a year and a half we'd grown from one 1035 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 3: hundred to one, thousand became the fastest growing. 1036 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 1: Church and we came in nineteen eighty three at that 1037 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,360 Speaker 1: sick you were in the skating, room skating. 1038 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,840 Speaker 3: Ron we came into that. Stool, yeah we came in 1039 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,839 Speaker 3: that skating rink in eighty two And god just did. 1040 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:27,360 Speaker 3: Stuff it was. Amazing eighty three you went To. Molokai, 1041 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,319 Speaker 3: yeah you know how that. Happened i'm just minding my own. 1042 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,800 Speaker 3: Business And god spoke to. Me he, said he, said 1043 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,799 Speaker 3: just as the mayor's the mayor of three, ISLANDS i 1044 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,719 Speaker 3: want you to pastor three Islands. Molokailand I'm. MALI i 1045 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:40,480 Speaker 3: just came there to. 1046 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,719 Speaker 1: Pastor NOW i didn't If molkai had a leper, colony then, yes, 1047 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:44,920 Speaker 1: no we prayed for. 1048 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 3: Them, yeah and there was only five thousand and six 1049 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,840 Speaker 3: thousand people that lived. There AND i remember Saying, GOD 1050 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 3: i passed one of the largest churches in the in the, 1051 00:52:55,600 --> 00:53:00,400 Speaker 3: state AND i obeyed. HIM i went To mola and 1052 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 3: it was a tiny little. WORK i, Said, God i'm. 1053 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:08,719 Speaker 3: Embarrassed this is. Horrible And god spoke to, me said, 1054 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,440 Speaker 3: Son he, said this is the church you would have 1055 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,680 Speaker 3: had IF i hadn't given You. MAUI i, said, oh 1056 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 3: thank you to. You but today we have three congregations On. 1057 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,960 Speaker 3: Molokai god's given me that, island And god's given me 1058 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,680 Speaker 3: the state Of. Hawaii we have, churches fifty congregations throughout 1059 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 3: the state and we're all it's just. 1060 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:28,640 Speaker 8: Amazing you all love all these. 1061 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 1: Stories these are stories that will so encourage some of 1062 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,720 Speaker 1: you that are watching right now that you've been Believing 1063 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,480 Speaker 1: god for. Something and the thing that always stands out to, 1064 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:43,799 Speaker 1: Me Ester morocco is just that. PERSISTENCE i, mean he 1065 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,799 Speaker 1: does not take no for an. Answer When god says 1066 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 1: to do, Something he's going to keep on and on and. 1067 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:53,239 Speaker 1: On And god is never, Early he is always on. 1068 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,080 Speaker 1: Time he's an on Time. God, yes well we are 1069 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:57,880 Speaker 1: out of time. Today BUT i want you to remember, 1070 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,720 Speaker 1: this no matter What god is asking of, you obedience 1071 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,960 Speaker 1: is always the best. Way his plans are good and 1072 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 1: when you say, yes he can use your life for 1073 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 1: his glory in ways that you never. Imagined and WHAT 1074 00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,080 Speaker 1: i love about is Doctor moroco is. Talking is that 1075 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,840 Speaker 1: how he was able to listen to the voice Of. 1076 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,839 Speaker 1: God didn't he love? That and so you, say, WELL 1077 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,359 Speaker 1: i don't have, That, Well god wants to have that with. 1078 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 1: You but you, know the first step into having a 1079 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:30,920 Speaker 1: relationship With god is praying a prayer and just Accepting 1080 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 1: jesus into your heart and asking him to forgive you 1081 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 1: of your. Sins and it's so easy to. Do just 1082 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,919 Speaker 1: Say jesus forgive, me you, know come into my heart. 1083 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 1: TODAY i don't really understand these crazy people that are 1084 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,320 Speaker 1: sitting around the, table but whatever is working for, Them 1085 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 1: i'm willing to give it a. Chance AND i want 1086 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 1: to tell you it's a prayer that will change your. 1087 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 1: Life AND i talk about my grandfather all the, time 1088 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:55,160 Speaker 1: who didn't Know god or didn't knowing about, prayer didn't 1089 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,520 Speaker 1: know about, church didn't have parents because his mother died 1090 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,799 Speaker 1: giving birth to, him and his dad committed. Suicide and 1091 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,279 Speaker 1: he's nineteen years old and he just knelt down at 1092 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,759 Speaker 1: the water fountain at the tool and die meal in 1093 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,919 Speaker 1: greenvis after hunt and Said, god if you're, THERE i need. 1094 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 1: You And god met him and change the trajectory of our. 1095 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,359 Speaker 1: Family he wants to do that for you as. Well 1096 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,800 Speaker 1: there's a number on your. Screen we have prayer partners 1097 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 1: that are standing by ready to pray with you right, 1098 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,719 Speaker 1: now and it's our honor to do. That if you 1099 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,279 Speaker 1: did pray that, prayer we want to send you The 1100 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 1: gospel Of. John it's a great place to start in The, 1101 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,960 Speaker 1: bible and we send that to you absolutely. Free there 1102 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 1: ARE qr codes on each chapter Where doctor Jen gets 1103 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,880 Speaker 1: explains every chapter to. You so that's our gift to. 1104 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,200 Speaker 1: You call today if you need prayer or if you 1105 00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,800 Speaker 1: prayed that. PRAYER i do want to thank Doctor james 1106 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,960 Speaker 1: And calling for joining. Us to learn more about their, 1107 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,600 Speaker 1: ministry Visit kingscentral Dot. NET i know you don't know how, 1108 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,880 Speaker 1: many but about how many churches around the world do you? 1109 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 9: Have? 1110 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,960 Speaker 3: Now, well our hope is by the end of this 1111 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:51,839 Speaker 3: year we'll have twelve. 1112 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 1: Hundred twelve, Hundred. 1113 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,719 Speaker 3: Minister, John, SO i don't know where we are. At 1114 00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,880 Speaker 3: my daughter today is In. Madagascar what's going to happen? 1115 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 3: There we're In, Cuba we're in a lot of different 1116 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,759 Speaker 3: nations of the. World about twenty six SO i don't. 1117 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 3: KNOW i keep. ASKING i think you. 1118 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 1: Have more than twelve. Hundred but will you come back 1119 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 1: and talk about some of the other topics That god 1120 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:14,919 Speaker 1: has given. 1121 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:15,920 Speaker 8: You HOW i got To. 1122 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,840 Speaker 3: Dallas that's quite a S i want to. 1123 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,400 Speaker 1: Hear that story too. Well as, always make sure follow 1124 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,240 Speaker 1: us on all social. Media subscribe to our YouTube channel 1125 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,920 Speaker 1: for full episodes exclusive. Content let us know how Table 1126 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,239 Speaker 1: talk is touch in your. Life we love hearing from. 1127 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,440 Speaker 1: You of, course you can also listen to The Jony 1128 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,400 Speaker 1: Table talk, podcast available now on all the major. Platforms 1129 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 1: thank you so much for. Watching thank you, Ladies thank You. 1130 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,919 Speaker 1: Moroccos we love. You i've loved you for forty. YEARS 1131 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,440 Speaker 1: i was only ten WHEN i met, you twenty years 1132 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,359 Speaker 1: but we love, you, guys so proud of. You he's 1133 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,280 Speaker 1: going to be an apostle till he goes On Boo, 1134 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,640 Speaker 1: jesus very. Apostolic if you want to understand what that 1135 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,319 Speaker 1: office looks, like that's doctor Moroco. Hey we'll see you next. 1136 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,840 Speaker 1: Time continue to. Call we love, you by bye for 1137 00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:58,240 Speaker 1: today