1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Ron and Anan, we're going to have better technology, and 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: I agree with that. I think a hundred percent. We're 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: going to have better resources. I think electric vehicles are 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: going to, you know, overcome the hurdles. I just don't 5 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: know if they're gonna do it in seven years that 6 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: we've mandated and laid down to have that happen. I'm 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: driving my lab way the Car Doctor. The more of 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: the story is that e d s are out there, 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: and the infrastructure, poor dum is not out there. And 10 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: basically what happened was a two hour road for it 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: ended up in five hours. Welcome to the radio home 12 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: of Ron and Anian the Car Doctor, since this is 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: where car owners the world overturned to for their definitive 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a 15 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: busy signal, pick up the phone and call in the 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: garage to orders are open. But I am here to 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: take your calls at eight five, five six, and now 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: he is running if auto repair by the week was 19 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: a baseball game and we were talking sitting around the 20 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: family table having a burger and a beer. One night. 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: I tell you this week was bottom of the ninth, 22 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: two outs, bases loaded, and every day you got up 23 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: and you had a swing for the fences. We're a 24 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: small three bay repair shop. We're not huge, and it's 25 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: just two guys. It's me and Danny Um. And I 26 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: stressed that because a couple of people called the shop 27 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: this week from around the country, and it's really kind 28 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: of funny to hear people go, you know, if you 29 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: ever see ron Um, yeah, I'll let them know that Um. 30 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: And then they figure it out, uh, you know, and 31 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: they're like, well, gee, Rush Limbo never answered his own phones. Well, 32 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: that's true. I'm not Russia Limbo though, Um or Howard 33 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: Stern or Bob Grant or listen. I'm just a street smart, 34 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: blue collar mechanic trying to make it all work and 35 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: put it together and help you guys and fix cars 36 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: at the same time week to week. But this week 37 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: at the shop was crazy. When I tell you crazy, 38 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: I mean I'm a saying crazy and busy, and you know, 39 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: I've always got a lot going on. But the fence 40 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: analogy is probably correct in my open today about swinging 41 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: for the fences, because we couldn't see the fence, the 42 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: back fence where the you know, the end of the 43 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: property where the fence line is there were cars stacked 44 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: double road right across. It was just nuts. We worked 45 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: every day just trying to get to the point where 46 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: we had a parking spot for ourselves and and and 47 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: it was just crazy. It's it's got to be a 48 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: trend because I don't think you guys want to buy cars. 49 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: I don't think you can find cars to buy, which 50 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: is part of it, but I don't think you want 51 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: to buy cars. I was I was reading some of 52 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: the prices. I don't know what it's like everywhere else, 53 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: but here in New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, I'm seeing 54 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: prices up three to ten thousand dollars over manufacturers sticker 55 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: price for a new vehicle, which, by the way, I 56 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: like to know your thoughts on that, if you want 57 00:02:55,080 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: to share that this hour or next zero. I mean, 58 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: that's nuts. You know. I had a thought about that, 59 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: and I'm a little off subject here, but you know, 60 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: let's say you buy that fifty three thousand dollar vehicle 61 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: for sixty three thousand dollars. I'm thinking about the new 62 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: Ford Bronco. The Ford Bronco. I think it's a sport 63 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: or an outburst or an outbreak or something like that 64 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: some highline Bronco and you pay ten thousand dollars more 65 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: than sticker price. In two years, if the market corrects 66 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: itself and all of a sudden they're not over inflating prices, 67 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: what will that do to the value of the vehicle, 68 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: With that sixty three tho dollar vehicle depreciate from sixty 69 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: three or fifty three. I think it's going to depreciate 70 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: from fifty three. So now it's gonna drop like a stone, 71 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: that fifty three thousand dollar vehicle. We were thirty grand, 72 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: So you really gotta want that vehicle or need that 73 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: vehicle to spend that ten grand over sticker, right, That 74 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: just doesn't make any sense. But regardless, we are busy 75 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: and Thursday night, Thursday night, it was all hands on deck. 76 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: We we we stayed late um and got as much 77 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: done as we could. We even had research Caffey come 78 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: and then she swept the floors and empty the garbage 79 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: kins just so we didn't have to do it. And uh, 80 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: you know, it was just it was just that kind 81 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: of a crazy day Thursday, and we got some Friday's 82 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: cars done Thursday night because people had dropped off early 83 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: and they were simple, you know, basic services and stuff. 84 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: And we got all those done, and then we came 85 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: in Friday and just banged away and chipped away at 86 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: it and chipped away at it, and you know, we 87 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: came in six am. I was there a quarters six Friday. 88 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: Danny shouted up about six ten with egg sandwiches, and um, 89 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: you know, away we went. And it's it's you know, 90 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: you sit there and you think to yourself, is it 91 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: the right thing to do? It's and I couldn't help 92 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: but think to myself. I said, you know, this is 93 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: like being a baseball team, and it's like being the manager. 94 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: You've got to make the right moves at the right time. 95 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: You gotta bring in your heavy heater, heavy hitter when 96 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: you have to when you can, and you gotta bring 97 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: in the right picture for relief. We got to the 98 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: end of the day. We wanted to go home. Four o'clock. 99 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: We got home. We got out of there at five, 100 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: so we we we sort of made it because in 101 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: my mind, when I try to go home five, I 102 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: get out of there at seven. So I figured trying 103 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: to get out of four, trying to get and got it. 104 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: Getting out of five was pretty close. And it was 105 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: the funniest thing it was. It was four two. I 106 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: remember looking up at the clock and Danny and I 107 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: were walking around sweeping the floor, and we we could 108 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: actually see the fence. We could see the fence to 109 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: the left and then coming up towards the shops. So 110 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: we had about seven open parking spots without being double stacked. 111 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: There's a there's parking for eleven spots without getting into 112 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: the michigass of just putting it anywhere in the in 113 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: the yard. So we had we had seven open spots. 114 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: Four cars showed up five minutes later. Another two cars 115 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: showed up before we went home at five o'clock. There's 116 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: now nine cars sitting on property, four of which were scheduled, 117 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: five were not for next week, and there's still more 118 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: cars coming Monday. I you know, I said to my 119 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: wife last night, I said, snap On Tools just got 120 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: I think they're just starting to trade on the stock market. 121 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, you know, do you invest in a tool 122 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: company because people are gonna be fixing cars. I think 123 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna be selling more tools. I think 124 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: there's gonna be more of everything. From a different perspective, 125 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: now it's it's you know, just crazy. It's just crazy. 126 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: So I apologize if my voice sounds a little worn 127 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: out today, have a little worn out. It was, Um, 128 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: I'm just coming off the uh a tough work week, 129 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: and then the wedding was the week before, and I 130 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: think I'm just kind of recovering from that. So but uh, 131 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: I'm here to answer your questions, whatever they might be, 132 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: UM and talk to you all and see what's going on. 133 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: I got a couple of great articles I want to 134 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: talk about. There was one I posted it up on 135 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: Facebook about the Washington from the Washington Post about the 136 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: federal government is looking into the autopilot crashes with Tesla's. 137 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: I want to talk about Rachel Wolf. She's a reporter 138 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: from the Wall Street Journal. I want to talk about 139 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: her story about she took a key electric vehicle on 140 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: a four day road trip and some of the things 141 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: she encountered, and uh, you know, I just want to 142 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: talk about evs in general. I appreciated your comments this week, 143 00:06:58,640 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 1: all of you had, you know, a lot of you 144 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: had written in and comments about the gentleman that rented 145 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: the e v UM that went to Carlisle, Pennsylvania last 146 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: week and the problems he encountered and uh, you know 147 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: I I think the way we're going to solve what 148 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: problems there are with EVS is by talking about it 149 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: and not attacking. And uh, you know that's what we're 150 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: trying to do here. We're just trying to talk about it, 151 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: just trying to report the news. As as I always 152 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: like to say, Mr Ray, I haven't talked to you yet. 153 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: Let me give you a how are you doing? A Hello? 154 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: How is your week? You were out in Nevada this week? 155 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: Weren't you, Yes, sir, yeah you were. You were sending 156 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: some beautiful views of the state of Nevada. Let me 157 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,559 Speaker 1: ask you this. So in Nevada you must have stopped 158 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: to get gas. Price of gas the same there's here, Yeah, 159 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: pretty close. Um. But but what was interesting when I 160 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: was driving, or well, when I was driving, I landed 161 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: in Salt Lake City, I was located in northeastern Nevada. 162 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: And you drive on I eighty, it's it's a two 163 00:07:55,000 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: hundred mile drive. There are oh about rest stops, um, 164 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: you know state rest stops on the highway. Um, A 165 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: lot of nothing. I mean a lot of places where 166 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: there's an exit. But I mean you look around, there 167 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: is nothing there, and it's like, okay, so if I 168 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: had an electric car, what would I do? Well? They 169 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: they have electric chargers at the state rest stops, but 170 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: not knowing about adapters and everything, I don't know what 171 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: types of chargers these are. I don't know if they'll 172 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: fit a car. But what would you do if you're 173 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: out there and he needed to charge the car? I 174 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: mean I I could always I can always stop off 175 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: on one of those small towns that because there were 176 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: some small towns and find a gas station. But how 177 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: am I going to charge a car out there? Well? 178 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: And let me respond to that, Tom, because my thought 179 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: has always been when you get at into the rural 180 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: parts of the country, it it becomes it's it's it's 181 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: easier to haul ten thousand gallons of gasoline to a 182 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: remote part of the state, remote part of the country 183 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: and dump it into a tank in the ground and 184 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: have it their dispense for everybody. Then it is to 185 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: build an entire electrical infrastructure to get electricity to remote 186 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: parts or enough electricity to remote parts to allow it 187 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: to charge an e V. And that's a question I 188 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: have that I have not gotten an answer to you yet, 189 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: Like how will they do that? Um, you know, is 190 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: it gonna be Is it gonna be solar charging from 191 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: the sun that we've somehow created a new technology that 192 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: we can you know, electrically charge vehicles that they're not 193 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: talking about yet. It's all the physicists and all the 194 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: theorists that we talked to say, you know, we're years 195 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: and years away from that. So I don't know. I 196 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's it's it's an interesting thought. So listen, 197 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: let's pull over to what's interesting out there is that 198 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: you see you know, you'll you'll see you'll see utility 199 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: polls in certain places. But like these state rest stops, 200 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: it's all underground. I don't know where it's coming from underground, Um, 201 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: but it's there. But what's the capacity? I mean, how 202 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: what should the capacity possibly be when they put that 203 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: rest stopping years ago? I mean, you had a couple 204 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: of ending machines, you had some lights and maybe a 205 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: wall pump, right, and now you're talking charging the electric car. 206 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: We had a we have a post up on the 207 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: Facebook page going about electric vehicles and uh John Z 208 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 1: from California wrote and he made a very good point 209 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: that the average home, the average older home has a 210 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: hundred amp service, maybe a hundred and fifty. Now he's 211 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: in California. He his neighbors have evs. They need a 212 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: minimum of a seventy five to a ninety AM service 213 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: alone just for the electric vehicle. How will you upgrade 214 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: the older home to charge that electric vehicle? And if not, 215 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: are we developing e vs just for certain parts of 216 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: the country rather than the whole country. It just so 217 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 1: lots of questions. Listen, I don't want to You need 218 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: to change the main service panel and then run that 219 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: circuit into the garage, but you also need to upgrade 220 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: the wire from the pole, and then the power company 221 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: needs to come in and they have to up aid 222 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: the transformer. And we had that in this neighborhood a 223 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Not electric car related. But I'm 224 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: gorgeous day. Today's a gorgeous day, suns out, it's it's 225 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: eighty degrees, it's wonderful. And all of a sudden the 226 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: power went out. And it happened numerous times, uh, you know, 227 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: over a course of about a year. And the power 228 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: company came out. And when the guy told me, this 229 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: guy actually had a brain, uh, he says, you know, 230 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 1: he says. When this neighborhood was put in, he's there 231 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: were two houses on this transformer. Now there are nine. 232 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: He says, this transformers not sized properly. He wentn't got 233 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: a new transformer. We haven't had a problem since, and 234 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna have They're gonna have to do that for 235 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: every neighborhood. Hey, let's let's pull over and take a 236 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: plause zero nine zero zero Ronning of the Car Doctor 237 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: and company. We'll be back right after this. Don't go away. 238 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: What's more fun than listening to Ron Andady in the 239 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: Car Doctor and getting that car fixed? Right? A five 240 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: five five zero zero, give on a call? Now back 241 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 1: to Ron. Hey, let's cruise over to California and talk 242 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: to Tim. Tim's got an EV story. I guess we 243 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: struck a nerve. Tim. Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir, 244 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: how's it going? Very good? Thank you for having me on. 245 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to share my story of my my aspirational 246 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: UM desire to have an EV plug at home. I'm 247 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: restoring at home, and so our electrical service providers specific 248 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: gas and electric and UM. I was told by them 249 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: that UM, they can't answer any questions about whether I 250 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: can have a larger service panel, which is a common 251 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: thing that people are, you know, electrifying their house or 252 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: their automobile. UM, you know, need to do upgrade their service. 253 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: You're you're saying you can't aspect that. They said you 254 00:12:55,400 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 1: can't ask that question or they couldn't answer it. They can't, Okay, 255 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: so they can't answer until you take out a building 256 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: permit with your county building officials. So they, you know, 257 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: they make you front load with some effort and expenses 258 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: to make sure you're you know, bona fide customer. So 259 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 1: a few days later, after I got the permit, I 260 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: reached out to the Electrical Company of p and I 261 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: was contacted by Sergio at Express Connections new business representative 262 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: U May three and I'm no closer to getting an 263 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: answer than I was before. And they have as as 264 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: per the findings of the district attorney here um uh, 265 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: the p G didn't have good record keeping after the 266 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,599 Speaker 1: fires that were caused by their faulty equipment. And the 267 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: thing is holding true with this request to upgrade my service. 268 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: And so I was asked to UM provide pictures of 269 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: the panel and breakers UM picture showing six ft to 270 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: both sides of the panel, UM, if I have overhead service, 271 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: and to provide pictures of the service drop from the 272 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: transformer and pictures of the weather head which is where 273 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: the service wire for overhead comes into your roofline and 274 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: the conduit to the meter, and YadA, YadA, YadA, and UM. 275 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: So you know I I provided these pictures and the 276 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: response I got um from the engineering department sent the 277 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: following email to surge at Express Connections. It says, I 278 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: don't think this is the right pick for the right house. 279 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: The picks show a card port with blue trimming, and 280 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: the three two threes address is brown trimming with a 281 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: brown trimming, which is redundant. Kind of a dumb sentence, 282 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: and so ron what they're accusing me of is that 283 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: I'm trying to submit fraudulent pictures of another house in 284 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: order to gain the game the system, in order to 285 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: get this to Ternam service panel upgraded from one under 286 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: false pretenses. What different what difference would it make if 287 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: you need the electricity? You need the electricity? Um, Well, 288 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: let me tell you about the findings from the local 289 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: district attorney here, um about their record keeping. But I 290 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: am I am I missing something? You're a customer. You 291 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: want to you want to purchase an electric vehicle. You 292 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: now have an older home I'm assuming right with a 293 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: with a one with a one electric service, and now 294 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: you need to go to two hundred amp electric service 295 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: so you can follow what society is telling you of 296 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: installing so you can buy an electric vehicle. Correct, this 297 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: this is the stated public policy goal of the State 298 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: of California and other parties that are encouraging people to 299 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: electrify their houses. They have rebates available to encourage this, 300 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: and even panel upgrades can be um UM rebated UM 301 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: for this purpose. And and so what we found in 302 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: the campfire where I live now UM which is the 303 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: fire that took out pg N that according to the 304 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: official reports is UM the components were in service this 305 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: ninete and PGNI had little or no information about the 306 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: ninety seven year old conductor and the hooks in the 307 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: original hangar holes in bolted on to the hangar place, YadA, yadaya. 308 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: And so anyway, they've in this report from the District 309 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: Attorney after the fire that burned the entire town of 310 00:16:55,960 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: Paradise is repeatedly stated in this official book report that 311 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: p GN has little or no record keeping, and they 312 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: had no information about UM their equipment. So this is 313 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: this is a pattern and practice. The district attorney also 314 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: found that their modus operandi is to UM run till fail. 315 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: Rather than do preventative maintenance like we do on our cars, 316 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: changing the oil and the filters and like that, they 317 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: pretty much wait till things break and then fix them. UM. 318 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: And so yeah, I'm I'm having quite the difficulty here 319 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: with these folks, UM, I explained to him. I'm sixty 320 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: two years old. I have a tile roof. UM. In 321 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: order to get the pictures with the line of sight 322 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: from the weather head to the to the line where 323 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: it connects to the pool, Um, you know, I would 324 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: have to go up a ladder, go up on my roof. 325 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: Actually I don't own a drone, and and and and 326 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: it is you know, you know that I'm being unreasonable 327 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: fun thinking two dozen pictures, and I've been submitting them 328 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: on almost daily basis, and they keep rejecting them. That 329 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: they're not quite right now, mind you. The transformer that 330 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: serves this cul de sac um was replaced in August 331 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: due to a lightning scripe, so they can't even look 332 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 1: back from summer hold hold that transformer, hold that thought, baby, 333 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: let me come back to you. We'll finish up real quick. 334 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: We'll talk for two minutes. I'm run any in the car, Doctor, 335 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: don't go anywhere. Welcome back on name of the car, 336 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: doctor Zo nine nine zero zero. Let's get back to 337 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: Tim real quick. In California, Tim, I gotta share my 338 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: thoughts with your brother and and some questions and for 339 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: everybody else out there. So you're just you're just, You're 340 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: just Joe citizen in California, trying to get an electric 341 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: vehicle putting his home right. Yeah, and I never thought 342 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: it would um turn into uh my electrical utility provider 343 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: accusing me a fraud, you know? And how big is 344 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: your neighborhood? Is it remote? You have nine my houses 345 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: on the block? You have three houses on the block. Well, 346 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: we know that from the lightning strike that occurred in 347 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: that this particular transformer that I'm attempting to draw power 348 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: from UM serves approximately six houses and was originally put 349 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: in probably ran sixty the house of the nineteen sixty 350 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: two UM. So yeah, so we're thinking the infrastructure went 351 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: in first probably how long? How how long have you 352 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: live in California. Tim, Okay, does it? Does it give 353 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: you a cost? I'm just curious, does it give you 354 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: a cost for concern about an electric vehicle future in California? 355 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: I have three gasoline flowered cars, and um, you're gonna 356 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: have to prime from my cold dead fingers I have. Yeah, yeah, 357 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: all right, yeah, but by the way, how much is guess? 358 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: How much is guess? And you're part of the country, um, 359 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: approaching six dollars a gallon at costco? And do you 360 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: do you know what diesel is you? I don't know 361 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: if you drive a diesel vehicle? Where's diesel at? Is 362 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: it higher? Almost a dollar more? Um? You know, throughout 363 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: this whole escalation, Um, it's been that way. Yeah, you're 364 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: happy with the We're not. Are you happy? We're not 365 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: seeing much of the bio diesel is going to be 366 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: the answer. And I just recently saw so I for 367 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: biodiesel available at the truck stuff and I haven't seen 368 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: that in years, and so, um, that doesn't seem to 369 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: be the answer because we just don't have the capacity, 370 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, for how much French frior oil because they're 371 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: out there well and you know, my my argument is 372 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: still it sounds like bringing electric into your neighborhood is 373 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: going to come at such a cost. But you have 374 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: to think about all the other millions of homes that 375 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 1: are out there. How will they do it? And by 376 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: the way, in researching this, this scenario um in the 377 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: Tesla owners forum, which I wasn't planning on getting a Tesla, 378 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: but this is a common thing to have a arduous 379 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: process with E G. N E to get answers as 380 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: to what you can do, um what what what they'll support, 381 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: And it seems like they're trying to discourage you know, 382 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: a certain amount of people won't make it through this process. 383 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: So despite the public policy stated goal of electrification of 384 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: both houses and vehicles, I think we're getting pushed back, 385 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: obvious pushbacks from electrical provider. I'm gonna I'm gonna leave 386 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: it there. I'm just I'm just gonna add what My 387 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: My last thought is that if they're if you're getting 388 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: pushed back from trying to add an electric vehicle to 389 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: your house, and they're telling us that they want everything 390 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: to be electrified, Um, you know two and two is 391 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: making five. It doesn't make any sense. So but uh, 392 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: you know, we'll leave it there. Let's see where it goes. Tim. 393 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. I'm sorry for your woes, and 394 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: I hope it gets better for your brother. And hang 395 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: onto that gas powered vehicle. You're gonna need it. Let's 396 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: get over to Lee in Michigan, Kia Sorrento and some questions. Lee. 397 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor. How can I help hi? Ron? 398 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: Thank you for all the service you that you provide 399 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: to the Americans. My pleasure, have a P zero four 400 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: four seven in the check engine light. UM. I pulled 401 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: off the on the recommendation of auto zone. They told 402 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: me that that was probably the purge beil. This is 403 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 1: purge bil, solenoid purge beil and canister purge veiled, and 404 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: so I pulled that off and they sent they gave 405 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: me the wrong one. They didn't even match up. So 406 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: I pulled it off. Anyways, tested it out with a 407 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: one of those trickle chargers and blew into it and 408 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: it would activate the solinoid me to activate and it 409 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: would block the flow. And they did it reliably several times. 410 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: So I put it back on there, went and bought 411 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: when and bought a gas camp, a new gas camp 412 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: from stop time. Okay, time. Um, where's the purge valve located. 413 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: Let's make sure we're working on the right thing. Is 414 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: it under the hood or under the car um? The 415 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: one that I worked on is rate uh is the 416 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: one that took goes into the canister. It's underneath. Okay, 417 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: So that's canister vent all right. That's the c CV. 418 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: That is the correct component. So let's let's talk about 419 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: EVAP all right. Let's explain EVAP to you. All right. 420 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: So you have an idea of what you're doing. All right. 421 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: So you live in a house. You got a front 422 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 1: door and a back door. I perfect, okay. Front door 423 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: is the purge valve. All right. When you open the 424 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: front door, air is going to escape the house and 425 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: push out. When you open up the back door, that's 426 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 1: the vent. The vent is going to draw air from 427 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: the backyard. Let it pass through the house and into 428 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: the front door area. All right, front door, back door, 429 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: purge valve, vent valve. All right. Your fault code is 430 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: A four four seven is a vent valve fault. It 431 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: is a vent valve electrical circuit fault. All right. It 432 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: is either it's telling you that the that the vent 433 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: valve is either shorted or open or I'm sorry, the 434 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: circuit is either shorted or open. All right. It's it's 435 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: not a performance issue, all right, And there's a difference. 436 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: They've they've taken O B D two diagnostics to the 437 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: level that they can you know, they can test electrically, 438 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: they can test component performance, all right. The the test 439 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: for that canister vent valve is really simple. Just you 440 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: want to come across the two terminal connector you're gonna 441 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: see anywhere from twenty three to twenty six Holmes, I 442 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: believe it's the specs is a good number. Um. Did 443 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: you check resistance on on the on the the valve itself, Yes, 444 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 1: and it did have it did have a small amount 445 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: of resistance and I'm pretty sure it was around in 446 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: that range without multimeter. Okay, So it was it was 447 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: it was ms of resistance, right, Okay, So if that's 448 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: the case, it's telling you that it's not that. What 449 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: you then can go and look at is now, which 450 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: did you change? What part did you change? Um? Well, 451 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: like I said, they gave the they gave the wrong 452 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: the canister valve valve that they gave me. What didn't 453 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: wasn't the same size that the one that wasn't that 454 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: I pulled off. Is a lot larger, and it was 455 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: off the canister. And I tested it out. Like I said, 456 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: I blew into it when I was activating it and 457 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: UM in it and it's it changed to flow. Okay, 458 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: so I know it's closing up. I note the alms 459 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: like closing up and opening up. Well, I wonder if 460 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: it could be the um the center of the pressure center. 461 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: It could well. No, this is an electrical fault. This 462 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: is if you look at the definition of a four 463 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: four seven. All right, I'll tell you what. Let me 464 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: not rush this. Stay put, let me pull over, take 465 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: a Pauseum up against the clock. When we come back, 466 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 1: we'll talk about this some more. All right, don't go away. 467 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: You got you got two minutes, right, you got, you 468 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: got you got some time? Um, stay right, stay right. 469 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: We arelie, I'm run on any of the car. Doctor 470 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: will be back right after this. Welcome back the car doctor. Lee. 471 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: You're there. Yeah, four four seven is canister closed vent 472 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 1: circuit fault. That's it. It's just looking that canister closed circuit, 473 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: that canister closed valve or what I what I think 474 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: of his event valve. So you know, if and you 475 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: don't have a scan tool, do you? Um? I do 476 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: have a scam too, it's the right. Does it have 477 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: bi directional control? I don't know if it can turn 478 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: things on and off. I have got to still have 479 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: to look that up. Okay, because this would be this 480 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: would be a key place where plugging the valve turn 481 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: it on and off? Does it cycle? Does it electrically work? 482 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: So this could be let's talk about what this could be. 483 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: This could be a problem with the valve itself. And 484 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: there's no rule that says you don't have an intermittent 485 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: electrical reading. Right, God knows things fail electrically on an 486 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 1: intermittent basis every day, all right. This could be a 487 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: wiring issue. This could be a pin connector issue with 488 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 1: the PCM or the relay that powers this canister closed 489 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: valve to turn it on and off. So so we 490 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: don't want to focus on just that. If you don't 491 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: have the ability to bi directional control. This based on 492 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: if you want to just talk, if we just want 493 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: to shoot the parts canon all right, and and talk 494 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: and talk about parts replacement, go to Kia. Price out 495 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: of c c V valve from Kia. I think it's 496 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: under fifty bucks. I don't think it's a lot of though. Um, 497 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you get to the point where the 498 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: hour diagnostic time you're gonna buy from a repair shop 499 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: on a seven year old car that's got a common 500 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: pattern failure of c CVS. If it's it's a fifty 501 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: dollar or less part, sometimes throwing the part at it 502 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: will either fix it or at least tell you what 503 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: it's not. Okay, all right, But the other thing you 504 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: could try is clear the code, put it all together. 505 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: If you clear the code and put it all together, 506 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: does the fault come right back? Yeah, we did it 507 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: twice already and it comes right back. Yep, comes right back. Okay, 508 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: miles at least a little less than ten miles. Okay 509 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: does your does your tool give you the ability to 510 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: look at monitors? Yeah? It does. It can app what's 511 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: going on? Okay, So why don't you take why don't 512 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: you clear codes? Take it for a rode? Watch the 513 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: evapp monitor. It's will it should tell you that the 514 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: evapp monitor is running right, right? I think you can 515 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: even watch that right and then if if after it runs, 516 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: is that when the check engine light comes on, And 517 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: if it does, you're dealing with a fault that happens 518 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: as a result of components being activated during the running 519 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: of the monitor. All right, The computers test all their 520 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: sensors two ways. The transition from key on to engine crank, 521 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,959 Speaker 1: run and release is the first. And it's doing it 522 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: in the blink of an eye, right, And then it's 523 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: doing it while the component is being operated as part 524 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: of its monitor itself. There's there's no rule that says 525 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: that that CCV valve while it's being opera at it 526 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: doesn't have an internal problem that's causing it to short 527 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: or go open circuit creating a false creating a problem 528 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: that you can't see because you're bench testing it. Right, Okay, 529 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: all right, if you do that. If we were in 530 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: the shop, I took a bulb to this connector and 531 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: I get a scan tool to activate it, and you know, 532 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: I turned the bull I turned the circuit on, and 533 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: I look at the bulb and as the ball blit. 534 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: And then if I wiggle the harnesses and play with 535 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,719 Speaker 1: the pins at the PCM and all the components, does 536 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: the bulb stay lit? Yeah? Great, Then you know what it's. 537 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: It's it's it's not the harness, it's the component itself. 538 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: That's how That's how I would normally do it. I've 539 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: got one of those lights like that that I could 540 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,719 Speaker 1: uh um look up in there. So as soon as 541 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: I turned the key on, I think, should that connector 542 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: should be should get twelve votes or five voltes? Or 543 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: grab grab a wiring diagram and take a look at it. 544 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: Don't put a bulb across it. That's got less resistance 545 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: than that relay though. Okay, all right, yeah, which which 546 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: is the trick? You've got to create the same amount 547 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: of electrical load, all right, or you're gonna go down 548 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: the key and find out that this thing that we're 549 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: talking about is twenty six bucks and put one in it. Okay, 550 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: I think they already told me. It was like that's 551 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: what they recommend to hear that, right, But yeah, they're 552 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: common they're coming all right, all right, well, thank you Grey, 553 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: welcome kidd. I'll keep me posted. Be well, let's table, 554 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: let's pull over early when we come back. He comes 555 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: to it was it was? It wasn't MIKEA. Let's pull 556 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: over and take a pause. When we come back, we'll 557 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: go to will and Virginia. I'll be right back. Don't 558 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: go away. Welcome back on the car Doctor. Let's get 559 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: over to Will and Virginia Will Welcome to the car doctor. 560 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: What's on your mind? Hey, how are you doing good? Collin? 561 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: Regarding last week, I heard a phone all about a 562 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: e V vehicles and things like that, and then had 563 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: a couple of comments man to it, comparing on a 564 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: Nissan Leaf, which has an absolutely terrible range. To understand 565 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,719 Speaker 1: the customer disappointment. And I deal with rains anxiety all 566 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: the time. I'm an e V tech for general motors. 567 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: I work on a dealership and been doing it for 568 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: several decades now. And not only not on the vehicles 569 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: are the same. So to give him all a bad 570 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: rap up one vehicle is kind of just leading to 571 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: the public bankment. And well, listen, let me just jump 572 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: in here. I don't, I don't. I wasn't trying to 573 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: say all evs are bid as a result of this 574 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: gentleman's experience with a Leaf. I'm sorry if it came 575 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,719 Speaker 1: across like that. He had the floor. He was just 576 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: explaining his experience. I don't think the Leaf is a 577 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: great V vehicle either. Um, because of what I've seen, 578 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: what I've experienced, I have a friend that's shopped forming 579 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: at the local Nissan dealer, and he tells me the 580 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: leaves are really not great. They got a two two 581 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: fifty mile range, however, and I want to point this 582 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: out to get half that actually well, and let me 583 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: point this out will. A year ago we had a 584 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: conversation right here on the show we're regarding electric vehicles, 585 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: and my comment was, you can't really buy a decent 586 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: electric vehicle for less than sixty grand, which I still 587 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: believe is a true statement. All Right, if you want 588 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: to buy a Chevy boat for you can brange right now, right, 589 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: But that's not that's not something that's gonna have all 590 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: the bells and whistles of a Tesla three at sixty 591 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: with a good interior and wheels and air conditioning and 592 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: and well, I disagree on that. Tesla is barely campus 593 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: sound vehicle and a very very safe. Right. Let me 594 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: finish my yo, all, let me finish my Let me 595 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: finish my thought though. All right. The conversation a year 596 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: ago was what can you buy for sixty grand? Or 597 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: what could you know? What would a nice EV cost 598 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: to get into? And the benchmark was between fifty and 599 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: sixty Somebody wrote in and said you can buy a 600 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: Nissan Leaf, and they held the Nissan Leaf up as 601 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 1: the benchmark of a cheap entry vehicle. E V it 602 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: should be acceptable to the public and should be considered, 603 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: as you know, by one of these. And I won't. 604 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: I don't. I you know, I wouldn't buy one either, 605 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: all right, um, but regardless, but regardless, let's let's let's 606 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: agree to disagree, or maybe we'll agree to agree on 607 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: one fact, regardless of what brand maker, model e V 608 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: it is. You know, we do seem to have an 609 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: issue on where the electricity is going to come from 610 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: and how we're gonna put charges in our houses. Absolutely 611 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: natural gas for the most part. And it's absolutely completely 612 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: agree with you. And and listen, the car is actually 613 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: cheaper to operate by quite a bit. I'm a I'm 614 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: a personal of it. IM I can less than nine hours, right, 615 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: and I get it. And you know what will I 616 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 1: get that. I think they have their place. I just 617 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: think we're being served something and pushed something on us 618 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: that you know what, it's got to make sense. And 619 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 1: so far nobody's called up and said, hey, it's real quick, 620 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 1: easy and simple to do. Well. I appreciate your stamina 621 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: and fortitude, and I appreciate you giving us a call 622 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: and sharing your thoughts. Until the next time, I'm Ronani 623 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: in the car doctor, reminding you good mechanics aren't expensive, 624 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: they're priceless. See you