WEBVTT - The Karol Markowicz Show: Taking Risks with Lisa Boothe

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, and welcome back to Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so nice to be back with you all. Happy

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<v Speaker 1>New Year. The most asked question in my emails and

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<v Speaker 1>dms over the last few weeks has been how did

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<v Speaker 1>you do with your fiction reading New Year's Resolution from

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<v Speaker 1>last year? Poorly? Friends, I did poorly. I completed only

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<v Speaker 1>nine fiction books and many many half books. I just

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<v Speaker 1>I can't finish books that I don't like it. I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I could, I just can't do it. My favorite

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<v Speaker 1>fiction book that I read in the last year was

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<v Speaker 1>City of Thieves. I think I mentioned it maybe shortly

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<v Speaker 1>after I read it at the beginning of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the rest were just okay, not really worth

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<v Speaker 1>mentioning and not that recommendable. But City of Thieves very good.

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<v Speaker 1>Check it out. I already finished a book this year's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good. It's called The Midnight Library by Matt Haig.

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<v Speaker 1>I picked it up on a whim and tore through

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<v Speaker 1>it on just two flights. To be fair, those flights

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<v Speaker 1>did not have internet. Maybe that's what I need. I

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<v Speaker 1>need for flights to stop having internet on board so

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<v Speaker 1>I'll actually read the books that I carry with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Midnight Library is about a woman about to kill herself

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<v Speaker 1>who gets the option to go and live a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different versions of her life to see which she

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<v Speaker 1>likes best.

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<v Speaker 2>I liked it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was good. I mean again, I can't say it

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<v Speaker 1>was like the greatest book ever, but I enjoyed it

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<v Speaker 1>for what it was. I also guessed the ending pretty

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<v Speaker 1>early on, but my daughter says, I'm annoying like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I really can't hold it against the book. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm reading Submission by I'm going to butcher this French name,

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<v Speaker 1>but Michelle Wellbach, and it's very good. It's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those books that had been recommended to me many times

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<v Speaker 1>over the years, and I'm finally getting around to it.

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<v Speaker 1>And to be honest, I didn't realize it was fiction,

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<v Speaker 1>or I would have read it much sooner. I read

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<v Speaker 1>so much nonfiction already that I just didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>add another nonfiction book to the pile. Why do I

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<v Speaker 1>talk so much about reading and why that's important to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to be a major reader. I used to

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<v Speaker 1>read all the time, NonStop, and it got harder and

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<v Speaker 1>harder as I got older to read for fun. I

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<v Speaker 1>blame my children. Okay, I actually blame my husband because

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<v Speaker 1>it started happening shortly after we got married. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably most blamed on the attention span that I lose

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<v Speaker 1>bit by bit by being on the internet so much

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<v Speaker 1>so my two things often go hand in hand. Less

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<v Speaker 1>internet more reading. The other part is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>questions I ask my guests is what do you worry about? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I worry when I'm reading fiction. It's like you lose

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<v Speaker 1>yourself in another world and then you come up for

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<v Speaker 1>air and your own and that just fills me with possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel very motivated after I read fiction. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to repeat the challenge this year and try to

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<v Speaker 1>read more fiction. Please join me. I'd love to hear

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<v Speaker 1>what books you're reading, and if you want to send

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<v Speaker 1>in your suggestions or tell me anything else, drop me

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<v Speaker 1>a line at Carol Markowitz Show at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up my interview with Lisa Booth. But first, the

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<v Speaker 1>new year is a time of reflection on the past

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<v Speaker 1>year and hope for the year to come. Last year

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<v Speaker 1>was a turbulent time for Israel and the Jewish people,

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<v Speaker 1>with a devastating and ongoing multifront war, an unprecedented rise

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<v Speaker 1>in global anti Semitism, and the loss of many Jewish lives.

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<v Speaker 1>But we've also seen an uprising of love and support

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<v Speaker 1>That's one word, support IFCJ dot org. Hi, and welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. My guest

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<v Speaker 1>today is Lisa Booth. Lisa is a Fox News contributor,

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<v Speaker 1>host of The Truth with Lisa Booth and one of

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<v Speaker 1>my all time, very best friends and just all around

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<v Speaker 1>favorite people. Ailita.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Carol, I love you, I love you. I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 2>I know Mike, what are you gonna ask?

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<v Speaker 1>Mate? I can't believe it's taken this long, but I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted you to be my first interview of twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy New Year, by the way.

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<v Speaker 3>You zero, Yeah, we're in twenty twenty four. Actually I'm

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<v Speaker 3>okay with saying goodbye to twenty twenty four. Right, So

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<v Speaker 3>we've got Trump and office, all jades, things ahead, hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>fingers crossed, so god willing.

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<v Speaker 1>There's absolutely been a vibe shift. I feel like everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>so optimistic heading into this year, and yeah, why not?

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<v Speaker 1>And we're going to see a lot of each other,

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<v Speaker 1>so really can't get better than that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? Absolutely, I always love hanging out with you. We

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<v Speaker 2>have the best. We have too much fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Seems Oh, we're not gonna remember we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, fine, no, no, go ahead, go ahead. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>what I made you take it to quila show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I do remember that. I had like a four

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<v Speaker 1>am flight the next day, or I had to be

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<v Speaker 1>get up at four am and Lisa comes back from

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<v Speaker 1>the bar with a tray of shots for everybody, and

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<v Speaker 1>you just knew that that morning the next day was

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<v Speaker 1>it was gonna hurt a little, but it was worth it.

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<v Speaker 3>It was although I'm on a no drinking kick right now,

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<v Speaker 3>so we'll not how long this can go.

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<v Speaker 1>So how's that going.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great, honestly, you know, it's like I've never had

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<v Speaker 2>a problem. Just for the record, right, but just to

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<v Speaker 2>get that out of the way. But you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like even when you get older.

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<v Speaker 3>Like even two glasses of wine, you know, you feel

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<v Speaker 3>like crap the next day and you wake up and

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<v Speaker 3>you're groggy, and I've just been so busy lately that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, you know what, and I'm trying to get

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<v Speaker 3>in like really good shape, and so I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, I don't need to I don't need

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<v Speaker 3>to have like my time and my ability to get

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<v Speaker 3>things done diminished by being hungover, even in the slightest

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<v Speaker 3>And so you know, I'm just gonna maybe see if

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<v Speaker 3>i can go thirty days and then see what else.

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<v Speaker 3>And just I've been waking up refreshed and super productive.

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<v Speaker 3>We share a producer, John. He's he could probably tell

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<v Speaker 3>you that He's like, maybe you should go back to

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<v Speaker 3>having a couple, you know, because I'm like, let's do this,

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<v Speaker 3>let's do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing, you know, So he's like, enough enough of this, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>please stop. It's funny. I make the joke on here

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<v Speaker 1>a lot that I try to drink more because I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't feel like I drink anywhere near enough. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I have a humongous barre at home with all these

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<v Speaker 1>different kinds of like cool alcohol, and I love whiskey.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm you know, really into like rise and bourbons, but

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<v Speaker 1>I just never remember to drink. So I'm always like,

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<v Speaker 1>I drink more. But I get you where I can

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<v Speaker 1>have more than two, absolutely not more than two, and

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<v Speaker 1>the night is ruined. The next day is ruined if

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<v Speaker 1>you do hit a certain age where where two is

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<v Speaker 1>the limit. But I want to hear how this goes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I want to hear how all this turns out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm rooting for you, except for the nights when we're together,

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<v Speaker 1>in which case I'm going to be a really bad influence.

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<v Speaker 3>I know. I feel, well, that's so fun. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>need to Yeah, Like I am very fun, right, so

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<v Speaker 3>I don't be drinking to be fun you really sadly way, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it'll be funny if we do another interview and we're

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<v Speaker 3>like sport. Remember when I told you you were still

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<v Speaker 3>fun without it, I was a lie.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you're definitely still fun without it. I have seen

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<v Speaker 1>you not during this time, not drinking, and yeah, you've

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<v Speaker 1>been awesome means so much fun. You're still a bad

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<v Speaker 1>influence on the rest of us, exactly, exactly. So I

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<v Speaker 1>find you to be just fascinating and super smart but

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<v Speaker 1>also super wise. And this show is about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>living better and all of that. So I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get into what would you say to like, what advice

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<v Speaker 1>would you give to the Lisa Booth of sixteen years old?

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<v Speaker 3>So actually, I would give myself the advice of being

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<v Speaker 3>nicer to my parents and treating them with more respect,

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<v Speaker 3>because I think it's one of those things that you

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<v Speaker 3>know obviously when you well, look, I was. I was

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<v Speaker 3>a tough child to raise. I've always been extremely independent,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I have a lot of opinions, obviously, hence

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<v Speaker 3>working in this industry.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I was stubborn, right. I was always loving.

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<v Speaker 3>And I always loved my parents, but you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>was challenging, right, And so as you get older, you

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<v Speaker 3>just you appreciate your parents more and you realize everything

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<v Speaker 3>they've done for you. And so I wish I could

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<v Speaker 3>go back because it eats like you, we don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how much time, but God's going to give us or

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<v Speaker 3>parents and the people we love, and so I wish

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<v Speaker 3>I could go back and just always treat them with

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<v Speaker 3>the utmost respect and.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they deserve that, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm sure, if you know, hopefully God willing, when

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<v Speaker 3>I have kids, I'm probably going to get it from them.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me assure you you will.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like God's probably going to be like you deserve

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<v Speaker 3>this one, Lise, like enjoy.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but it's a good point. Look, I have my

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<v Speaker 1>mom staying with me right now. She's amazing, She does

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<v Speaker 1>tons of stuff for us, She's just awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, there are.

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<v Speaker 1>Some challenges and challenges from from my side, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is a struggle sometimes to treat them the way that

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<v Speaker 1>they deserve to be treated. So I fully expect my

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<v Speaker 1>kids to behave the same way as me, though I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any illusions that they're going to be better.

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<v Speaker 3>But can I say one thing that I really I've

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<v Speaker 3>always really admired about you because like I do adore you,

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<v Speaker 3>I love you like just such an amazing person.

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<v Speaker 2>You're an incredible friend.

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<v Speaker 3>But like I feel like you've got it figured out,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and it's hard. No, you do from an outsider,

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<v Speaker 3>I know you probably don't say that, right, no, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's like you love your kids and you're very present

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<v Speaker 3>for your kids. You love your husband. I've seen you

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<v Speaker 3>guys together, like there's so much love there. You have

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<v Speaker 3>a great marriage, and then you're also you know, kicking

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<v Speaker 3>butt in your career as well, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>it's very hard to like do all of those things

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<v Speaker 3>at once, and then you still, you know, go out

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<v Speaker 3>occasionally and have a good time. So it's like I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like you've got like the recipe figured out, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like out there still buying ingredients.

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<v Speaker 2>From like you've baked the cake and it's nice. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>totally you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate that. I like to say, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>people like, how do you do it? I do it poorly?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I just don't. I know you probably feel that way,

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<v Speaker 2>but you don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Like from I see you know, I see you and

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<v Speaker 3>like the way you operate and like I admire that.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's I know it's not easy, but you're you're

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<v Speaker 3>very present and all the things that you're doing, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think, like that's not hard to do or that's

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<v Speaker 3>not easy to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Rather thank you, thank you. This is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the Mutual Appreciation Society interview. Sure, I kind of felt

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<v Speaker 1>like this is how it was going to go. We'd

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<v Speaker 1>be like, I love you, No, I love you. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you're swa.

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<v Speaker 2>People listening are gonna be like, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>My, these two hopefully they're still hungover from New Years exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you always want to be on TV?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I like it. It never even occurred to me

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<v Speaker 3>to be I just never even thought that. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>I really never even considered it. I didn't consider it

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<v Speaker 3>until so. I was always the political route. So I

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<v Speaker 3>was a political science major in college, went to work

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<v Speaker 3>on Capitol Hill when I graduated, you know, did that,

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<v Speaker 3>worked on campaigns, like did that whole thing. And I

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<v Speaker 3>was working on a Senate race at the time, and

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<v Speaker 3>my boss was like, you're doing spin room after the debate,

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<v Speaker 3>and so the spin room for those listening if you're unaware,

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<v Speaker 3>basically afterwards, either the candidate or someone from the team,

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<v Speaker 3>the team goes out and like gives the hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>addresses the media and you know, to the effect of

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<v Speaker 3>being like we won because of X, Y and Z

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, you kind of go out and you

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<v Speaker 3>make your declaration, you take questions from me. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>so he was like, that's what you're doing tonight. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I have never been on TV, like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, you know, and he was like, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>a question, it's like a directive, like you're doing this,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I was like, oh man, So yeah, during

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<v Speaker 3>the debate, I'm like furiously taking notes and really just

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<v Speaker 3>trying to like pay attention to everything that was said.

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<v Speaker 2>I prepare like my remarks and what I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to go do.

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<v Speaker 3>And I went out there and like the this is

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<v Speaker 3>in Wisconsin, the Wisconsin Press Corps.

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<v Speaker 2>They're brutal, like they're very left wing. They hated my candidate.

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<v Speaker 3>So I go out there, I give my statement, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>taking the income, and I'm like, man, this is so

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<v Speaker 3>much fun. Like I freaking loved it. And then so

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<v Speaker 3>after that they're like, Okay, you're doing TV for the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of the campaign cycle because I guess they thought

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<v Speaker 3>I was good at it and I enjoyed it. And

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<v Speaker 3>so after that, I, you know, I went back to

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<v Speaker 3>Capitol Hill and I kind of had in the back

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<v Speaker 3>of my mind that this is something I'd like to

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<v Speaker 3>do at some point. And then, you know, fast forward,

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<v Speaker 3>I found myself not working on Capitol Hill anymore and

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<v Speaker 3>was able to start doing it for the first time.

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<v Speaker 3>And then it's just like one thing led to another

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<v Speaker 3>and now I'm here. It was a lot of work,

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<v Speaker 3>don't get me wrong. Me Like I was paying to

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<v Speaker 3>take the bus up to New York to do shows

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<v Speaker 3>on my own dime when I wasn't making you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't making up with money. But and then that

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<v Speaker 3>just kind of kicked off something in me of being like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>there was something about this I just love.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it the arguing that you enjoyed?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>Could that be it? Harol?

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<v Speaker 2>And no, one's uh, you know, I do enjoy you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like my mom.

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<v Speaker 3>My mom always used to say, if I could, just

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<v Speaker 3>like harness that power for good, it would be very productive.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I remember, I, well, I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 2>should tell well, I asked her.

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<v Speaker 3>I was in I think I was like elementary school

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<v Speaker 3>or something, and I went to a private Christian school

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<v Speaker 3>at the time, and so this girl accused me of

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<v Speaker 3>stealing the communion and I did not, so I slapped

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<v Speaker 3>her because I'm like, how dare you you know I

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<v Speaker 3>did not do.

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<v Speaker 1>This in the communion. She's lucky she got away with

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<v Speaker 1>just a slap.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So then I went to the principal's office and

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<v Speaker 3>he was like, you can't. You shouldn't be doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I can't remember. This is like forever ago,

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<v Speaker 3>but basically the gist of it, or at least what was,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, told to my mom and then now that

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<v Speaker 3>I know, because you know, you don't always remember everything

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<v Speaker 3>exactly from middle school, but I remember slapping her, but

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<v Speaker 3>and then going to the principal's office. But and then

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<v Speaker 3>he like basically he was like, you know, why did

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<v Speaker 3>you slapper? And I'm like, well, she's stealed. She accused

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<v Speaker 3>me of stealing the communion and like what's worse slapping

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<v Speaker 3>someone or lying? And he was like who, like what,

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<v Speaker 3>like who are you? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>And then so I didn't end up lapping ma'am.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and like but I really didn't end up getting

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<v Speaker 3>in trouble. He just like told my mom, and my

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<v Speaker 3>mom was like, why did you let her?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I like?

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<v Speaker 3>And so there's always like these situations where I was

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<v Speaker 3>able to kind of like, you know, your thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Have it yeah, talk my way out.

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<v Speaker 3>And my mom was just always like, we just need

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<v Speaker 3>to know harness this and focus this on goods.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, as long as she doesn't become like a war criminal.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you worry about? Everything?

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<v Speaker 1>I think? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you a worrier? Oh my god, Caro, What don't

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<v Speaker 2>I worry about?

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<v Speaker 1>Really?

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<v Speaker 2>You see so like optimistic I am, but I worry

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<v Speaker 2>about Like it's just my mind. I'm very like analytical.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm always thinking about things, a very hard time turning

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<v Speaker 3>my brain off, and so it's a challenge of mine.

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<v Speaker 3>That's something I've worked on as I've gotten older about,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, realizing that things are outside of our control

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<v Speaker 3>and just kind of like giving up to God and

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<v Speaker 3>letting go of things.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not always easy, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I was really worried about the direction of the

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<v Speaker 3>country before the election, like terrified. It was keeping me

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<v Speaker 3>up at night. I mean, heading into the election, I

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't sleep. I had so much anxiety and then you know,

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<v Speaker 3>now I obviously feel much better about that because we're

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<v Speaker 3>in good hands with President Trump. You know, I worry

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<v Speaker 3>personally about you know, with my career, I'm always asking myself,

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<v Speaker 3>am I doing enough? Should I be doing more? Am

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<v Speaker 3>I far along as I should be? You don't have

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<v Speaker 3>a family yet, so I worry about am I going

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Am I?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>So? Yeah, So I worry about a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's sort of a you know, a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of human nature to worry. How do you get

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<v Speaker 3>more of active mind?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you talk yourself down on those ledges?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, honestly it's talking to my parents. My parents

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<v Speaker 3>are very good at kind of like, you know, sort

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<v Speaker 3>of rewinding those thoughts. And then also like exercising, going

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<v Speaker 3>for walks. You know, for me, I played sports my

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<v Speaker 3>whole entire life, so I'm like really into I've got

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<v Speaker 3>to work out, you know, so just going walks, clearing

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<v Speaker 3>my mind and just kind of realizing that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we're we're not in control of everything, and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just accepting things as there are.

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<v Speaker 2>What would you be.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing if you weren't doing this? Like, what would a

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<v Speaker 1>plan be for Lisa Boothby.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, honest, I'd probably still be doing the whole

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<v Speaker 3>political thing. I've always just really loved politics. Like my

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<v Speaker 3>dad worked on Capitol Hill when I was growing up,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's always been kind of my I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>adore my mom as well, and I admire them and

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<v Speaker 3>go to them for different parts of life, but in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of career, I've always really looked up to my dad,

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<v Speaker 3>and so he's always ask him questions about Capitol Hill

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<v Speaker 3>and politics growing up, and he would never treat me

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<v Speaker 3>like a kid and just be like, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like you would have these conversations with me and inform me,

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<v Speaker 3>and like he's testified before before Congress, not for anything

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<v Speaker 3>bad as a as a policy you know, as a

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<v Speaker 3>policy expert, and so I would go with him, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just kind of really had this like admiration

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<v Speaker 3>for politics, and so I'd probably still i don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe be on Capitol Hill, maybe you know, doing something

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<v Speaker 3>in politics, campaigns, you know, probably would have been working

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<v Speaker 3>on elections this past cycle.

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<v Speaker 2>He's right of center.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've always been a Republican. I definitely have gotten

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<v Speaker 3>further to the right. I think there's been a cool thing. Yeah, right, exactly. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>it was Obama's time in office, and you know, seeing

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<v Speaker 3>the irs go after the tea party, and also sort

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<v Speaker 3>of being I was working at the nrc SEA during

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<v Speaker 3>the tea party as well, so sort of saying people

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<v Speaker 3>being like, you know what, like this is my government,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, not the other way around, Like you work

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<v Speaker 3>for us, we don't work for you.

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<v Speaker 2>And then obviously Cavanaugh was a big.

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<v Speaker 3>Part as well of just seeing the smearing of this

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<v Speaker 3>innocent man, what they did to Trump in twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 3>and then just witnessing all the rest of it that

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<v Speaker 3>they've done to them. You know, they trying to throw

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<v Speaker 3>him in jail and you know, really weaponize the government

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<v Speaker 3>against him in a way that is and it's anesthetical

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<v Speaker 3>to like what we're supposed to be as America. So

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<v Speaker 3>I've definitely gotten further to the right as I've gotten older.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, yeah, a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Of those are radicalizing moments for me too.

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<v Speaker 2>Them COVID, Oh my god, I didn't even know there

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<v Speaker 2>was that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, COVID you were actually we'll come back to meet

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<v Speaker 1>what radicalized me. But you were actually extremely outspoken on

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<v Speaker 1>COVID to the point where it harmed you a little

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, could have could have hurt your career.

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<v Speaker 1>But so why did you do it?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it did. It did hurt my career because it

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<v Speaker 2>was wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm a nerd, and you know, I was a

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<v Speaker 3>vice president appolling firm for a while, and so I'm

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<v Speaker 3>used to working with data, and so I started reading

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<v Speaker 3>things like doctor John E. Needes, He's a world renown

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<v Speaker 3>epidemiologist for Stanford. He wrote a column in stat News

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<v Speaker 3>after the fifteen days to slow the spread, and he

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<v Speaker 3>was looking I think it was the Diamond Princess cruise shrip,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was looking at that as like a case study,

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<v Speaker 3>and his conclusion was that basically the COVID would end

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<v Speaker 3>up being roughly around the same fatality rate as the flu,

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<v Speaker 3>and that basically the reason the fatality rate was so

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<v Speaker 3>skewed is because we were only testing people who were

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<v Speaker 3>showing up at the hospital who were sick and dying,

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<v Speaker 3>and we were missing cases. And then like and then

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<v Speaker 3>you can go fast forward in April, and we had

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<v Speaker 3>these antibody study tests from Santa or from Stanford, from

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<v Speaker 3>in Santa Clara, California, as well as in New York

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<v Speaker 3>and we were finding that we were missing cases by

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<v Speaker 3>like up to eighty sold, meaning that the fatality rate

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<v Speaker 3>was significant less. Or you could go to July of

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty one and there was an outbreak in Provincetown, Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 3>and seventy five percent of basic case.

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<v Speaker 1>All like at the front of your note because you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna forget this.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not gonna because we shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>But then in seventy five percent of the cases and

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<v Speaker 3>that cluster were vaccinated. And then there was also a

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<v Speaker 3>study published in The Lancet basically saying the vaccines weren't

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<v Speaker 3>stopping in the thread of delta. So then the whole

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<v Speaker 3>purpose of getting vaccinated if you're young and healthy was

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<v Speaker 3>deemed irrelevant because it was a personal thing, not a

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<v Speaker 3>public thing, right, Like, you weren't protecting others if you

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<v Speaker 3>got vaccine, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's just these moments.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I became friends with all these people in

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<v Speaker 3>you know, these world were now and epidviologists and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Martin kolderf and Jamadator like you know, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if they call me a friend, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like they were giving me information and I was asking

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<v Speaker 3>questions and Martin McCarey and like all these people and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and so I was learning from them, and

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<v Speaker 3>I felt that the truth needed to get out there.

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<v Speaker 1>And okay, so the truth of need is to get

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<v Speaker 1>out there. But it harmed you personally. Isn't there some

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<v Speaker 1>like line where you're like, I don't have I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to do this because I'm going to suffer.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 3>And I remember having these conversations with my parents because

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<v Speaker 3>they were like, least you're really sticking your neck out there,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you might get it chopped off.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, well, you know, then, so be it.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. Like I was fully prepared when I moved down

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<v Speaker 3>to Florida that you know, I wouldn't be able to travel, right,

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<v Speaker 3>because there were talks about like not letting the unvaccinate

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<v Speaker 3>and fly, and so I was just like, all right, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess there's worse places to be hunkered down, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Lina.

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<v Speaker 1>Will just never leave Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so I was fully prepared, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And then there was a moment too, like I think

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<v Speaker 3>Amicron really deprogrammed people, because up until that point, like

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<v Speaker 3>people were radical with it. And then I think omicron

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<v Speaker 3>because it was so if everyone know it exactly that

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<v Speaker 3>even the people who were like, oh you're dirty, something's

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<v Speaker 3>wrong with you if you get COVID, they got it

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<v Speaker 3>and they're like, oh, it's not that bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember this ADA clearly. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And once they had it, they were like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>is nothing, like really it's nothing. Yes, that's what we've

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<v Speaker 1>been saying exactly. But it took that. It took that.

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<v Speaker 1>It took them getting it and seeing that it was

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<v Speaker 1>not a big deal in order for them to understand.

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<v Speaker 1>I just it's unfortunate that so many people couldn't. I've

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<v Speaker 1>never had COVID, not that I know of, and I

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<v Speaker 1>had my antibodies tested two different times, like after being sick,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've never had it, so I understood that without

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<v Speaker 1>getting sick myself, like why couldn't they make that leap?

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<v Speaker 1>But but yeah, that was a very radicalizing time and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we're going to allow the same kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing to go down in the same way again.

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<v Speaker 1>But I always worry that we're not seeing like what

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<v Speaker 1>the future problem will be and we're going to just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, follow it the same way. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>like that we've kind of woken up as a country

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat and all the radicalizing things that you've talked about.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they moved a lot of people like

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<v Speaker 1>them searching more A lago was for me this moment

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<v Speaker 1>of like, wow, they have stepped over the line. And

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen not very political people make that same comment,

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<v Speaker 1>like that was a line for them. They searched this

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<v Speaker 1>man's home, they were in you know, Malania's shoe closet.

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<v Speaker 1>That is beyond well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I think you know with Ray, Christopher Ray

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<v Speaker 3>stepping down, you know, you have that letter from Senator

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<v Speaker 3>Chuck Grassley, who's going to be the incoming Senate Judiciary chairman,

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<v Speaker 3>and like he's not a hyperbolic guy, right, like I've

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<v Speaker 3>had him on my podcast. He's very mild mannered. He's statesman.

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<v Speaker 3>And he outlined in the eleven pages of all the

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<v Speaker 3>egregious examples of why Christopher Ray needed to leave and

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<v Speaker 3>why he had no confidence in him. And that was

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<v Speaker 3>one of the reasons listed was the unprecedented rate against

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump with thirty armed FBI agents with essentially, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>authorized to use lethal force if needed. And then they

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<v Speaker 3>didn't do that with Hillary Clinton, who mishandled classified information

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<v Speaker 3>or Joe Biden. But they did do that with Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>So again, you know, continuously on the receiving end of

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the weapon is a of government that he's

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<v Speaker 3>been on.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a like earlier radicalizing moment, because like

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<v Speaker 1>mine was, for example, election two thousand, it was the

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<v Speaker 1>first moment I was like, wait, the Democrats are trying

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<v Speaker 1>to steal this selection. And I was like, oh I

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I was always right of center, but I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I want to be more involved in this,

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<v Speaker 1>Like they're absolutely trying to steal the selection, and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be more into this.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably when I realized Sannah isn't real.

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<v Speaker 3>Was that like last year or it's like I'm like

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<v Speaker 3>an original like Santa Truther, Like I I was the

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<v Speaker 3>kid that uh I think I was in kindergarten and

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't look with the whole Santa thing just didn't

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<v Speaker 3>really make sense to me.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, wait, you rooted for the other kids.

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<v Speaker 2>I did, but I didn't mean too. I thought I

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<v Speaker 2>was doing them right.

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<v Speaker 3>But and so I like, my you know, when you

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<v Speaker 3>hear the story, I'm like none of this checks out right,

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<v Speaker 3>Like so this guy flies here from the.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like, I'm like, he gets downe just me.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't that story.

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<v Speaker 2>How does he get it done? Every night? House?

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<v Speaker 3>After how I'm like none of this around the world

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<v Speaker 3>and like none of this makes sense. And so I

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<v Speaker 3>like stayed up all night and I'm like, I wonder

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm going to see, and so I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>like catch you know whatever. And so I saw my

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:09.359
<v Speaker 3>parents wrapping presents and putting under the Christmas tree. And

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<v Speaker 3>then I confronted my mom about it the next day

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<v Speaker 3>and like asked her a bunch of questions, and she

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<v Speaker 3>didn't want to lie to me because she felt like,

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<v Speaker 3>obviously as a parent, it's the beauty to be honest.

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<v Speaker 3>So she told me the truth. And then I went

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<v Speaker 3>to school and I was like, you guys, we've been

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<v Speaker 3>lied to. Wow, her parents are lying to us, Like

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<v Speaker 3>the jig is up. Everyone needs to know. And then

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<v Speaker 3>my mom got a lot of really angry.

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<v Speaker 2>Phone calls from there. It's being like, what is wrong

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<v Speaker 2>with your kid?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Jews are instructed by their parents not to

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<v Speaker 1>ruin it or not for the Christian kids, like the.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys they were wise enough or not.

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<v Speaker 1>And then me totally Santa, Yes, and you were like,

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<v Speaker 1>I've done the research, moked into the evidence, and guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I have some news.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like you, guys, we've been lied to and U

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<v Speaker 3>you need to know spread the word.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm sure your parents enjoyed that very much, for.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you this is why I try to do

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<v Speaker 2>everything I can to help my parents out now, because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like it aft even.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry I got Santa thing, yes exactly, well lives along

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<v Speaker 3>the lust.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I have obviously loved this conversation. I love all

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<v Speaker 1>of our conversations. I think that we should just do

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<v Speaker 1>this over tequila next time if you're you know, in

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:25.680
<v Speaker 1>a mood for that. But and us here with your

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<v Speaker 1>best Lisa Booth tip for my listeners on how they

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<v Speaker 1>can live better lives.

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<v Speaker 3>So I would say take risks. And I realized that

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<v Speaker 3>it's more difficult for some. You know, obviously, if you

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<v Speaker 3>have a family of mouths to feed, uh, you know,

0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 3>that's what makes things a little bit more difficult. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm understanding of that. But I think taking risk is

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<v Speaker 3>really important. Like I had interviewed for a job for

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<v Speaker 3>a Senate race, the one that actually ironically I did

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<v Speaker 3>TV for the first time, which led me down this career.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think I interviewed on like Wednesday, found out

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<v Speaker 3>I got the job on the Friday, and then I

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<v Speaker 3>had moved to Wisconsin on that Monday. And so in

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<v Speaker 3>the span of just a few days, I'd gotten a job,

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<v Speaker 3>interviewed for job, got it, and then moved to a

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<v Speaker 3>totally new state where I didn't know anyone, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I think that just being able to take risk,

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<v Speaker 3>I think can kind of help because I think sometimes people,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they want what's safe, and sometimes what is

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<v Speaker 3>safe I think can keep you from achieving everything you

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<v Speaker 3>are capable of.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, I think that stepping outside of that safety

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<v Speaker 1>is actually where the success happens. It's just hard to

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<v Speaker 1>do sometimes, but.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't want to be an idiot about it, like yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like I know, I'm not you know, like I

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<v Speaker 3>thought I could sing when I was growing up, and

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<v Speaker 3>I asked my mom one day and she said, she said,

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<v Speaker 3>there were a lot of things I was good at

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<v Speaker 3>and singing was not one of them, and to focus

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<v Speaker 3>on these other things so that you know, you don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to be like an idiot, like I'm I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>going at your row.

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<v Speaker 2>You might be the same as singer, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>know that's within reason, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think if you try doing it

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<v Speaker 1>on the weekends and see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that I would probably have tomatoes thrown at me.

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<v Speaker 2>If that's still a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be there to defend you, so that's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>You would take a tomato for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I would take a tomato for you.

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<v Speaker 2>That as a friend, that really is.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for coming on. She is Lisa Booth.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on her show, The Truth with Lisa Booth.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, Lisa, I love you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for joining us on the Carol Marco

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