1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: I was convinced I was going to be a famous 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: singer actress. I started writing songs and my parents said, 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: what the hell is that? So I went to school 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: and I studied and became a lawyer. And I never 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: did I think that I was going to become famous 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: because of lawyering, But there it happened. 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: Bettino from Futuro Media, It's Latino Usa. 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 3: I'm Maria jo Josa Today Lado Tora Ara Maria Polo 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 3: the host of the long running court. 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: TV show Caso Serraro. 11 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 3: She talks about trauma, intimacy, queer rights, and her eluciones. 12 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 3: Like her TV personality, Dottra Ara Maria Polo's birth year 13 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 3: was dramatic. She was born in Havana, Cuba, in nineteen 14 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: fifty nine, just a few months after a scruffy Fidel 15 00:00:55,360 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 3: Castro and his compagnio's tople dictator Fulhencio Battista get. 16 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: I say it, Kaci I s Marcololo's. 17 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 3: Family decided to flee Cuba for Miami a couple of 18 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 3: years after the Cuban Revolution, and then they migrated to 19 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 3: another Caribbean island, Puerto Rico, where Polo spent her childhood 20 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 3: and teen years. It was there, as a Catholic schoolgirl, 21 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 3: that she discovered two passions that would one day converge 22 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: justice and entertainment. Polo wanted to pursue her career in 23 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 3: music and acting, but when her mom said hell no, 24 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 3: she obeyed. Back in Miami, she studied political science and 25 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: eventually earned a PhD in law, which means that's right, 26 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: she really is Unadopaolo had been practicing family law for 27 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 3: over twenty years in Miami when she was hired to 28 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,639 Speaker 3: host a new Spanish language court TV show called Sala 29 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 3: de Parejas. It premiered on Telemundo in two thousand and 30 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: one and was eventually rebranded after her best known phrase. 31 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 3: The show wasn't limited to just couple's disputes. Instead, Gaso 32 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 3: Serraro brought on cases about everything in daytime court TV shows, like, 33 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 3: for example, Incesse Exploitation, Worn Immigration, Sketchy Beauty, Spas, buenotu Sas. 34 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 3: She also got to show off her musical talents by 35 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: composing and singing the theme song to her TV Showile Galazation. 36 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: Lenda. 37 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 3: Gaso Serrado often aired for multiple hours a day on 38 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 3: Telemundo and was nominated for a daytime Emmy. In true 39 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 3: Court TV style, each case goes a little something like this. 40 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 3: The plaintiff makes his or her case okay, making. 41 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 2: The defendant response. 42 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: Uh. 43 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: Witnesses and experts are brought in, roasts are. 44 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 3: Made and eventually makes for decision and that's it. Case closed, 45 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 3: marked by the dramatic pounding of a gattle. We spoke 46 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 3: to about the show's impact on Latino TV and culture. 47 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: Because the show was huge, we also wanted to look 48 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: at many paradoxes, like how it was dismissed as low 49 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 3: culture and yet it was hosted by a highly educated 50 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: Latina and how do Dora Polo is a longtime queer 51 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: advocate but has kept her own sexuality private until now 52 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 3: becaose to two decades on TV. Do Dora Polo is 53 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 3: a pop culture icon, particularly among millennial and jen Z 54 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 3: Latinos and Latinas who grew up watching her with their 55 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 3: parents and Agulitos and abulitas. There's a street in Hyalia, 56 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: Florida named after Dot Dora Polo. And don't you try 57 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: to suggest to Sam Jahidaze Caso Serrato isn't real. While 58 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 3: new episodes haven't been recorded since twenty nineteen. Reruns played 59 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 3: daily on Telemuno, and the show has been memorialized through 60 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 3: viral clips and memes on the internet. So here now 61 00:04:55,560 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 3: my conversation with Lado to a Maria Polo. 62 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: What do I call you? 63 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 3: Lot Tora, Ana, Maria, Anna, chica, muhamaa ASERI? 64 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: You know? Actually does my friends call me Anita? Anita? 65 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: But I'm not your friend though, so I'm just like, 66 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 3: thank you for letting me in. 67 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: We fight for what we believe, we do what we like. 68 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: We're friends, don't you think, dude? 69 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 2: I love that? 70 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 3: So Sin Saada, without reading your bio, just when I 71 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 3: would see you, I was like, well, she's Cuban and 72 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 3: she left the island somewhat recently, and that's why she 73 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: is so adamant about these issues of libertad and equality 74 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 3: and queer rights. And then it's like, actually, no, you 75 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 3: left Cuba when you were two, and to my fascination, 76 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 3: you're basically raised on the island of Puerto Rico. But like, 77 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 3: how do you see yourself as a Cuban who ends 78 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 3: up being essentially displaced at a very young age. 79 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: I see myself as a Cuban, but I feel myself 80 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: very American. I'm a Miami girl. Really, that's how I feel. 81 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: A Miami girl. First, I don't remember coming from Cuba. 82 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: I was two and a half years old. I have 83 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: no memories of that. My fair memories were at four 84 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: or five years old, I was already living here in 85 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: the United States and my parents said, Okay, we're moving 86 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: to Puerto Rico. 87 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 3: Did your parents have any doubts about the United States 88 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 3: or was it really like no, is this sit Baistrosuenos 89 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 3: or No? 90 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: They didn't. They had no doubts about this country. My 91 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: parents loved Cuba, okay, But I realized as I grew 92 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: up that they were harboring a deep depression in sadness 93 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: for what had happened to them. I mean, they were 94 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: the post of all the possessions, of all their memories, 95 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: in the prime of their lives. They were in their thirties, 96 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: they were doing well. They had dreams of Cuba. Cuba 97 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: was a wonderful country prior to nineteen fifty nine, you know, 98 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: a country that really was doing so well visa visa 99 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: the rest of the countries in the world. It is 100 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: a growing, modern city with its constant activity. It looks 101 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: like any busy. 102 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: American stream except for that wonderful custom of Cista when 103 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: everything is and. 104 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: They never really talked to us very much about Cuba. 105 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: They kept it silent and they would really focus everything towards. 106 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: This is the States. You can do anything you want here, 107 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: you can become anybody you want. You can and me 108 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: being a nasty kid archripy president, I wasn't born here. 109 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: Wait a second, you actually were like, I want to 110 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 3: be president. 111 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: I'm a political science major. My bachelor's is in political science. 112 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm talking about when you were a little girl. 113 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: You were like, Mommy, I would have liked to have 114 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 3: been president, but I wasn't born here, Grusola. 115 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: Because I'm I was that kind of a kid. I 116 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: would like to read things and then just throw it 117 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,119 Speaker 1: in my parents' face so that they knew I knew. 118 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 119 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 3: But you know, being a woman, a female president, having 120 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: that concept is pretty deep. 121 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: Well. I was discriminated for being Latina, for being a woman, 122 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: for being short, for being Wokona, for a lot of reasons. 123 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: But my parents never paid much attention to that. They 124 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't label things. They said that, so well, find a 125 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: way of getting around it. You'll find a way do it. 126 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: There's always a way. 127 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 3: Interestingly, Anita, you've talked about just now your parents. You 128 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: were the one that kind of went there in the 129 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 3: sense of hitting on trauma like straight up and describing 130 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 3: what that trauma looks like. And for me as a 131 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 3: young journalist, it was when I went to cover the 132 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 3: story of Elian Gonzalez. 133 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 4: Old Elian Gonzalez has now been removed from his home. 134 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: He was staying with his Miami relatives. He was seized 135 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: before dawn this morning by federal marshals who are armed 136 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: not only with automatic webs. 137 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: I understood the reality that many Cubans were and are 138 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 3: still in the deep throes of PTSD. So can you 139 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: talk a little bit about having a sense of trauma 140 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 3: or understanding it even through your parents at a pretty 141 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 3: young age. 142 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: I believe that Cubans, really, most of them are the 143 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: one who understand their reality have PTSD, I have. I 144 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: have no doubt about that. Andez incident to me is 145 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: the clear one, clearest one. 146 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: I think. 147 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think every Cuban lives with a little of 148 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: PTSD and we all live with that desire that one 149 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: day it will be free again. It will be a free. 150 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 3: Country now as I was thinking about that, because you, Anita, 151 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 3: have said that you will not go back. 152 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: Unless it's free, unless it's a free. 153 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 3: Country, unless it's free, and you have to kind of 154 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 3: sit with the fact that that means you may never 155 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 3: step foot on the island that you were born on. 156 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: Maria. There were times while I was growing older, like 157 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: in my twenties, I said, well, Cuba's free. In my thirties, 158 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: I'll go back, I'll help rebuild. And that went by 159 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: and it didn't happen. And then I learned about musicians 160 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: in Cuba and Silvio Rori Ga, Pablo. 161 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: Romano's game. 162 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: I don't know about us. I didn't know about these people. 163 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: I didn't my mother would play these singers or anything. 164 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: But I learned from other places, and I would listen 165 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: to their music and I would admire the lyrics, the melodies. 166 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: And then in my forties, I said, well, I'm still 167 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: in my forties. If Cuba should be liberated, well you know, okay, 168 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: so maybe I'll get involved with the political parties of 169 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: the transition to stabilize the government and blah blah blah. 170 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: And then the forties went by, and then the fifties 171 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: came in and I thought, well, you know, maybe i'll 172 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: raise some money from the United States to help those 173 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: who want to go there and do the best they can. 174 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: And now I'm in my sixties and I'm thinking, like 175 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: you do, eto arato Is, I don't think i'll see 176 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: it in my lifetime. And it's disheartening and it's depressing 177 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: because I wish I could see where my mother was 178 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: born in Binarlea Rio, and where I was born, and 179 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: my sister and my father and my grandparents. But I 180 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: think I won't. Sadly, I think I won't. 181 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 3: So talk to me a little bit about singing and 182 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 3: what it meant for you and why. And I think 183 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 3: you said to your mom, no, I'm going to be 184 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 3: this hall. 185 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: M No, no, no, that's not a career. Then you're 186 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: gonna have to sleep with these ugly producers. 187 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 2: And fat She said it like that, straight up. 188 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: See made met straight up. My mother was straight up. 189 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: She didn't cover anything up. You're not doing that, I'll see, 190 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: get buka boutka, you are not doing that at all. 191 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: And as a matter of fact, when I graduated from 192 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: high school, I had I had some nice offers from 193 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: art schools Juilliard University and a school in London for acting. 194 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: And my mother said, forget it. You're not leaving the house. 195 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,599 Speaker 1: You're coming with us to Miami, and you're going to 196 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: a local college in Miami. So forget all of that. 197 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: It's not happening. And you know what I found out 198 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: later in life that my mother was a singer as well. 199 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 1: My mother won in Cuba when she was like sixteen, 200 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: one of those contests like lavos the boys and all that, 201 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: and she recorded records in every thing better. She didn't 202 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: want us to do that. Maybe she had a bad experience. Nevertheless, 203 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: when you have it inside, you have it inside. And 204 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: even studying something else, I would always write songs. At 205 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: some point I thought, okay, you know, I'll produce my 206 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: own record. I'll do whatever I have to do. But 207 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: life catch us on. You have to survive and you 208 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: have to do what you have to do. I became 209 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: a lawyer. I started to practice law. It went well. 210 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: I was a good lawyer only because I connect with 211 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: my clients. I did the worst area of the law, 212 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: which is family law, and they're interminable. Those cases they 213 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: never end because people don't want to, you know, they 214 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: don't want to give up on their kids or whatever. 215 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: Domestic violence, it's just terrible. Until one day, you know, 216 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: Salabad has happened. A friend of mine had opened up 217 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: a little restaurant right across the courthouse. She had a 218 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: little party. She asked me, I would just sing something 219 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: for us and not Well, I was in a good mood. 220 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: I picked up the guitar. I sag. 221 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 2: He said, can you say the US? 222 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: And there was a producer from the company that was 223 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: doing Sala de Bardiause, which is the predecessor to Castle SrAl. 224 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: And they had a casting that like three hundred lawyers. 225 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: They didn't like anybody, and and and I said, well, 226 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: you know what, why not? And I went and I 227 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: did a little audition. 228 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 3: Did Judge Judy already exist or did any of those 229 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 3: Judge shows? 230 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: You better tell me the truth, because I'm much smarter 231 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: than you are. I love the truth. Yes, absolutely, Judge 232 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: Judy existed, She's existence forever forever. 233 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 3: But did they say to you, look, basically, you're going 234 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 3: to be the Latina Judge Judy or not. 235 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: The company was an Argentinian company. I don't think they 236 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: knew about Judge Judy. Yeah, no, No, no. 237 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: Okay no. 238 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: So I said, so okay, So why do I have 239 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: to do this? And they told me you you're going 240 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: to be a mediator. You're the arbiter and you have 241 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: the power to decide because people sign a contract saying 242 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: that if they cannot reach an agreement, your decision shall 243 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: be final. Oh, I said, okay, I do that. That's 244 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: pretty good. And I just pop pop bind. They recorded 245 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: that thing, they sent it to Telem said, yes, that's 246 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: the pitch we want her. That's how it happened the way, 247 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: and then eventually it was my idea to change it 248 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: to casto, which everybody thought. It was, Oh my god, 249 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: so ingenious. All I did was translate what judges would 250 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: tell me every time a trial would finish, Miss Polo, 251 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: case closed. I've ruled Gay's close, because I will always 252 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: want to talk after the judge had ruled. So I said, 253 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: vii cho boom casoo. What I did is I give 254 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: it a little musicality. I put a little music because 255 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: I did the gavel in this in the middle of 256 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: Edi cho boom, you know. And I it was my idea. 257 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: I said to Telemund, listen, why are we doing a 258 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: show about couples. We're running out of ideas for couples, 259 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: and we're putting a couple of dogs, now a couple 260 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: of cows. Let's turn it into castoo. Everybody in the 261 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: street already is talking caso, and we can open up everything. 262 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: We can talk about immigration, and we can talk about 263 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: negligence and accidents, and we can talk about family law 264 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: and torts. And it just turned into Casso serra the 265 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: way through bigger and I served it, girl, I served it. 266 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 3: Coming up on Latino USA, La reflects on her role 267 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 3: as an entertainer and as a public figure in Spanish 268 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 3: language media. While her job was to be judgy, she 269 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 3: tells us why she always tried to strike a balance 270 00:16:58,920 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 3: even when she fell. 271 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: Stop, stay with us, not stay like us. 272 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 3: Hey, we're back, and just a note before we continue. 273 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 3: This part of the conversation contains discussion about sexual abuse. 274 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 3: Let's go back now to my conversation with the host 275 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 3: of the popular court TV show Caso Serrao. 276 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: I think I was drawn to the show. 277 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 3: Well, okay, the truth is my husband, he's the painter, 278 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 3: heammperees dose Elpinta, and he would always have the TV 279 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 3: in the back, so That's how I started watching Caso 280 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 3: because he would watch it because he was watching and 281 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 3: there was definitely it was like, oh, hey, wait is 282 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 3: it because I never watched any of those other shows. 283 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 3: I've never watched any Judge show in English period, But 284 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 3: I was watching Casoo and I'd be like, wow, see, 285 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 3: so now she's dealing with this immigration thing. So and 286 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 3: now she's dealing with an issue of race. I became 287 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 3: really intrigued when I was like, Oh, bit at there. 288 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 3: So Anita dot is like a major advocate on LGBTQ issues. 289 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, becomes even more interesting. So can 290 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 3: you tell me a little bit about that part, because 291 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 3: again in Spanish language television being out being gabe. On 292 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 3: the one hand, I think Latin America is incredibly accepting, 293 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 3: and on the other and I think they can also 294 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 3: be very damning. 295 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: Well, you know the double morality. We all the Latinos 296 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: have this double standard of morality. We know that. I 297 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: think religion has a big part in that. I mean, 298 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: religion muddles the issues. That's another issue that I've touched 299 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: in Casa Sao very openly. I mean I had some 300 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: strong words for the popes and the church in general. 301 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: You know how they talk about love and this and that, 302 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: but this kind of love is bad and that kind 303 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: of love is bad. To me, love is love. It's 304 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: not bad in any sense. And listen, I fully support abortion. Fully. 305 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: I truly believe it is better to get an abortion 306 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: that to bring a child into this world, to make 307 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: him suffer, to be mistreated, abused, end up in a 308 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: foster home, and all these horrible stories that we hear, 309 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: but they didn't want to ever say, well, I ordered 310 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: you to get an abortion. So I always had to 311 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: go around the bush and see how I would bring 312 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 1: them to their senses. LGBTQF all those letters. I don't 313 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: have a boneus discrimination inside of me. I don't and 314 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: I never had it. And it's very funny because my 315 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: parents did. 316 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 3: Against queer people, are against black people, against Jewish people, gay, 317 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 3: gay people. 318 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't a constant thing or whatever, but 319 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: I would hear them make comments that I thought, but 320 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: that's not nice. But they're saying it's not nice only 321 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,239 Speaker 1: because this person likes somebody of their own sex. I mean, 322 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: what's wrong with that? You know? I remember going to 323 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: the New York Gay Parade in June twenty fifteen when 324 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court made finally that decision. 325 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 4: The Supreme Court found gay and lesbian Americans have a 326 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 4: constitutional right to marry. 327 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: We take two long in this country for everything. If 328 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: you ask me, it's one of my biggest complaints. But 329 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: finally we got that decision, and I was so elated. 330 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: I was so happy because prior to that, I have 331 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: been defending gay rights for years and years and years, 332 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: and finally here was my vindication. You know, the law 333 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: of the land, the Supreme Court. 334 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 3: It does Papasca sipt that on when when you came out, 335 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 3: were they like Simi Hita. 336 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: I never said anything to anybody, and I don't talk 337 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: about my sexuality because first, if you've seen Castosrala long enough, 338 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: you were going to understand that. I think everybody's bisexual. 339 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: I think we were all born bi sexual, and that 340 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: we eventually as we grow up, we have inclinations, orientations, 341 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: and we then lived them. I think that I am 342 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: truly bisexual. Truly, I can absolutely fall in love with 343 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: anybody from both sexes. 344 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 3: So I'm going to ask you a difficult question, Anita, 345 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 3: but I think it poses for me the paradox that 346 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 3: I began to feel about Casoo, which is like, wait 347 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 3: a second, Dot is so smart, so astute, non discriminatory, 348 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 3: so open and accepting of everyone. But there was something 349 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 3: that then became very performative, became very over the top. 350 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 3: It was weird sister Aravianraro for a hand bro the 351 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 3: woman who could not stop twerking, the man who was 352 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 3: impaled by his girlfriend. 353 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 2: I mean, it was just some. 354 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 3: Crazy, crazy stuff. And that's where I started to be like, 355 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 3: what's going. 356 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: On, Maria. We've gone through twenty years of a daily show. 357 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: I would do sometimes three hundred and twenty five episodes 358 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: of Castos Ral for Telemundo on a yearly basis. We 359 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: would study ratings and we would figure out what is 360 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: it that people really want to see? Iljantes on mor Bosa, 361 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: we love it. 362 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 3: No, maybe you guys think get those things were the 363 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 3: ones that were getting the top ratings. 364 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: They were getting the top ratings. Anything that had to 365 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: do with violence, sex, deceiving, infidelities, weirdness with the internet, 366 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: weirdness with tattoos and body modifications, and anything that was 367 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: weird would get the top ratings. So we had to 368 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: divide things and we had to say Okay, you got 369 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: to bring a serious case and sentimental case, and you 370 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: got to bring three weird cases or four weird cases 371 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: because that's what was selling. But I hope that you 372 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: saw that in even the weirdest of shows, I was 373 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: trying to be the voice of something that would transcend, 374 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: that would give a little more than just the scandalous. 375 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't Jerry Springer. There was a part 376 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: of me that saw that you were also struggling. And 377 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: that's where I'm trying to understand that part of you. 378 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: Believe me, there were many times that I had to struggle, 379 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: and there were many days where I would scream off 380 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: the top of my lungs because I didn't want that, 381 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: and I would you know, I would get the people 382 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: ida saying, hey, but this is what self, So we 383 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: got to do it. It's what self. So I said, well, 384 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: you know what, I have to do the best I 385 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: can with this. And then we got more serious at times, 386 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: and we did more serious cases, and we dealt with 387 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: more political issues and issues of human value and human justice. 388 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: And the ratings weren't us good, but they had to 389 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: accommodate also what I wanted to bring out the balance. 390 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: You know, I needed some balance. 391 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 3: So you, like me, actually have I think a deep 392 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 3: love of humanity. Like while we're really capable of incredible things, 393 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 3: incredible love, sadly incredible hate. But when you're saying about 394 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 3: the studies that you were doing as a producer to 395 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 3: see minute by minute ratings and what people and you're like, 396 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 3: hint this, Morbosa, then how does that leave us in 397 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 3: terms of wait, but we love humanity and we want 398 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 3: to do the best. But it's like, wait a second, 399 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 3: but y'all are showing us that you you'll go to 400 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 3: the lowest common denominator. 401 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: This is how I see it, Manya. Television is a 402 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 1: very powerful medium, no doubt about it. And right now 403 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: I think we are in one of the best times 404 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: television has existed. We have an incredible amount of content, 405 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: some of which is excellent and some of which is deplorable. 406 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 1: So I think we got to educate more in the 407 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: sense of really saying, you know, this is television that 408 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: a CD is entertaining, is just for entertainment purposes, and 409 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: this is television that is serious, and you choose what 410 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 1: you want to watch, So that that's a lot of 411 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: years and days and shows that you have to record 412 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: that I had to record. 413 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot of having to have sl money 414 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 3: that in front of you, you know, kind of on 415 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 3: a daily and so again another sensitive question, Anita, I 416 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 3: get a sense that you're not very public, Like I 417 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 3: don't think I've seen you a lot in people in Espanol, Like, 418 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 3: I don't think that that's kind of like your life, 419 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 3: right am, I right. 420 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: No, it isn't. It is not my life. You say 421 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: fight on the you see I'm Lea. 422 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 2: On the show. 423 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 3: You look one hundred percent. And there are some people 424 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 3: who like to maintain that image, you know, throughout the 425 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 3: rest of their life. And you're basically saying, no, I 426 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 3: played that character. I was that, but then when I 427 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 3: went home, you know, I was in my pajamas. 428 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: No, I am exactly what you see in television. You know, 429 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 1: I do it with jeans and shorts and T shirt. 430 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: I am exactly what you see. This is who I am. 431 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: I'm not out there because I'm not into you know, 432 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: the press and this and being in the line. Like 433 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: you know, I've been retired basically since twenty nineteen. My 434 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: contract with Telemundo ended. We didn't renew anything, and nothing happened. 435 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: Then the pandemic came okay, because I had other offers 436 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: and other places that I was looking to revive renew Castle. 437 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: But the pandemic happened and it was a reality. A 438 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: lot of things just went south. I am still amazed 439 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: how people keep me alive without me doing a thing. 440 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 3: Well, that was part of what I wanted to talk about, 441 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 3: which is another one of the you know, kind of 442 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 3: contradictions that I see. So the level of intimacy that 443 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 3: you were able to achieve on a television show that 444 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 3: was rowdy, you know, a'm Ariyista, and yet I'm wondering 445 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 3: about your own intimacy and how you've decided to keep 446 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 3: that very private and why. 447 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: Okay, because there are things and things about subject matters 448 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: that we can talk. First, I went through cancer in 449 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: two thousand and three. I was diagnosed with breast cancer. 450 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: Many people in the public eye say, no, you know, 451 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: I'm not going to share this. It's a painful thing. 452 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: It's private. I'm going to look ugly whatever reasons people have. 453 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: I said to myself, you know, no, you are a 454 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: public figure, you have a following of people. But there's 455 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: a lot to learn about this matter. I am going 456 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: to tell people about it. I am going to tell 457 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: them that I'm getting a mastectomy, that I'm they're going 458 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: to remove twenty live notes, that my thyroid broke as well, 459 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: that I had to remove my ovaries at forty three 460 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: and go through a full blown mental pause. That drove 461 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: me crazy because we all have a lot to learn 462 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: about this, and I spoke about that, which is intimate. Okay, 463 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: but my sex life, Maria, isn't that too much? I 464 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: think it's too much. First of all, I'm a sixty 465 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,959 Speaker 1: two year old woman, who the hell cares about my 466 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: sex life? Well, besides me, what sex life? Please? I 467 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: don't think I have to share my sex life with anybody. 468 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: I don't Well. 469 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 3: I ended up writing very publicly about being surviving a 470 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 3: rape at sixteen, even though I didn't realize it had 471 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 3: been a rape at sixteen, and I never called it 472 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 3: a rape even though it was two service. And I 473 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 3: ended up writing about having two abortions. So I have 474 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 3: in fact gone into that place. And you're right, we 475 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 3: make certain choices as women because we want to educate. 476 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: But that is not your sex life. Those are traumas 477 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: that you lived, and people need to be educated about them. 478 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: I was also sexually molested at sixteen with a gun 479 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: to my head by a family member, and I've spoken 480 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: about it. That's different. But yeah, when people start saying, bit, oh, 481 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: wait a minute, you sleep with girls, you sleep with boys, 482 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,719 Speaker 1: or you sleep with three or four at the same time. Wait, wait, wait, 483 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: wait a minute. But I saw killing Teresa yessna. But 484 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: sometimes we go too far in the industry, we go 485 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: too too far. 486 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 3: I love the fact that you're saying this, Amita, because 487 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 3: I'm just like, yo, your show is so explicit and 488 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 3: you dealt with so many explicit things, and you're just 489 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 3: like you know, people go too far. 490 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: I believe in privacy, believe it or not, even in 491 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: this crazy world where privacy basically yeah, it doesn't exist 492 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: too much. And again, it doesn't exist because we give 493 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: it up. We give it up. 494 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 2: And are are you? 495 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 3: Are you kind of feeling I mean, oh, yameh, since 496 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, who knows what anything is, But how are 497 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 3: you feeling in this point of your life? 498 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 2: Are you happy? 499 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: I am happy. I am still full of dreams, which 500 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: I think is part of my formula for happiness. Everybody 501 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: has their own formula in my book. The older I grow, 502 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: the more I think about having illusions, So. 503 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 2: Quenta me the less illusionists and the things. 504 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 3: So you actually you want to give Casosrado another chance? 505 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 2: What's the dream? 506 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: I want to continue it because people want to see it. 507 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: They want to see it. And then there's the business part. 508 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: There's a lot of companies that want to buy it. 509 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to work that much. I don't want 510 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: to do three hundred cases a year. I would like 511 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: to do less cases a year and just you know, 512 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: spread them around people to watch. 513 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 3: So you're you're you're not slowing down. It's not like, Okay, 514 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 3: I'm taking my guitar. I'm gonna go compose some songs 515 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 3: and hang out with my dogs. 516 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: I do that too. I have time for that now, 517 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: I do. I Also, I'm doing a movie, the Casoo movie. Okay, 518 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: wait what, Yes, I'm doing the movie Casolo. The movie 519 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: is in it's in progress. It's like the story of 520 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: your life, or the story of not at all. It's 521 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: going to be a dramedy. It's going to be an 522 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: action film. It was an idea of a Chilian production company. 523 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: There's a lot of fun. 524 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 2: You're starring it. I am the protagonist. 525 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I am. I'm doing it when stuff 526 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: comes around that is interesting to me and just wakes 527 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: up that sense of illusion. 528 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 3: I bite's gracias more there. Thank you for taking this 529 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 3: bite and for joining me on. Let you know USA, Anita, 530 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 3: I really appreciate it. 531 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: A pleasure, Maria. 532 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 3: We reached out to Telemundo to confirm some of Doctor 533 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 3: a Polo's characterizations of events that involved the network, but 534 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 3: they declined to comment on that. 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