1 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: Oh that's Spider Man meme with the two identical Spider 2 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 1: Man's pointing at one another. 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the Raiders quarterback room. 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: Now, well not now once this guy winds up getting 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: drafted first overall, but yeah, his personality double let's call 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: it added to the Raiders room. 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that coming up here. 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: Quarterbacks that could potentially reinvent themselves kind of the way 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: that Sam Darnold did the whole redemption arc. Who could 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: those quarterbacks be? Who are the candidates? That guy right there, 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Chidiaz got a bunch of them. And Fernando's target, 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: Elijah Surut, He's going to hear his name called relatively 13 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: early in the draft as well, and we are going 14 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: to talk to him coming up on the program tonight. 15 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: Welcome inside with it The Insiders. Ian Rappleport to my left, 16 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: Judy Battista in his left. To his left, A wonderful 17 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: Easter orange laser there. I love it, Judy, It's fantastic. 18 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: My name is Mike Caryfula. We've got to cast them. 19 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: Characters go to join the program tonight. Speaking of characters, Yeah, 20 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins agreeing to a deal with the Raiders this morning. 21 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: According to his agent, Mike McCartney. You see that twenty 22 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: million guaranteed in twenty twenty six. There's a whole lot 23 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: of machinations when it comes to the contract. Ian's going 24 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: to break that down in just a few minutes for us. Now, 25 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: this agreement came one day after the Raiders went to 26 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: Indiana to go see Fernando Mendoza. Throw there's Klint Kubiak. 27 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: You're gonna see John spy Tech in one second. Here 28 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: talking to Ryan Toner, who is Mendoza's agent, not telling 29 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: them we're going to take your guy, but everybody knows 30 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: which way this is probably going to go. So you've 31 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: got Kirk, you've got Mendoza, and you've got them likely 32 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: joining forces in Vegas very soon. 33 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: Here is Kubiak from the. 34 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: NFL's annual meeting a couple of days ago, talking about 35 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: the dynamics between the veteran and the rookie quarterback. 36 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: The situation is, you might have that player, you might not. 37 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: You might you might not have that veteran to show 38 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: him the way, so he might come in and have 39 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: to play immediately, but you'd rather him learn well before 40 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 3: he gets in the game. You don't always get to pick. 41 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 3: It just doesn't work out the exact way you wanted to. 42 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, you want to 43 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 3: make sure that you're bringing in an individual, drafting a 44 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 3: guy that you know is mature enough to handle handle 45 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: some adversity, whether it's him starting the first game or 46 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 3: him starting the first game here two. 47 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, he could teach him a lot of things like 48 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: where to get his haircut for cheap, and how to 49 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: get an automobile for cheap, and a lot of things 50 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: that he can get at a lower price. Speaking of prices, 51 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: speaking of money, give us a breakdown on this deal. 52 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a fascinating, complicated deal that ends up earning 53 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 4: kirk Cousins ten million dollars, at least more than he 54 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 4: otherwise would have gotten. So you mentioned the twenty million 55 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 4: dollars fully guaranteed. That is true. Here's how it breaks down. 56 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 4: According to sources, kirk Cousins gets ten million dollars this year. 57 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 4: Of that, the Atlanta Falcons are going to pay eight 58 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 4: point seven million dollars. Of that one point three million 59 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 4: dollars paid by Las Vegas, there's ten million dollars fully 60 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 4: guaranteed next year in a roster bonus with there is 61 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 4: no offset. That means, no matter what, he is getting 62 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 4: twenty million dollars fully guaranteed for this year, though ten 63 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 4: million dollars of that comes in March, and then there 64 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 4: is a two year team option worth eighty million dollars. Basically, 65 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 4: if Kirk Cousins is so good, so good that the 66 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 4: team says we are going to keep Ronana Medoz on 67 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 4: the bench for two additional years, then he is going 68 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 4: to get eighty million dollars. 69 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 5: Over two years. 70 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 4: By the way, I should mention his eleventh year in 71 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 4: a row. Whereas fully guaranteed, his agent Mike McCartney is 72 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 4: done an excellent job of making sure that Cousins is 73 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 4: unbelievably highly paid, regardless of he actually plays on the field. 74 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 4: Most importantly, Judy, I say all these numbers. Most importantly, 75 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 4: the money seems to indicate that Kirk Cousins could or 76 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 4: maybe should end up being the starting quarterback to begin 77 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 4: the twenty twenty six season, even with the Raiders likely 78 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 4: selecting Fernando Mendoz. 79 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 6: Well. 80 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 7: I sat down with Klint Kubiak at the annual meeting 81 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 7: as well, and I asked him what do you feel 82 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 7: is the best way for a rookie quarterback to develop? 83 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 7: And he said repeatedly, reps, reps, reps, reps. And I said, well, 84 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 7: does that mean regular season reps that he's got to 85 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 7: be starting as soon as the regular season started. He said, 86 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 7: not necessarily. They can come in mini camp, they can 87 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 7: come in training camp, they can. 88 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 6: Come in preseason games. But he believes in preparing a rookie. 89 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 7: Quarterback a lot with a lot of work before he 90 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,799 Speaker 7: puts them on the field. And that's why this makes 91 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 7: this a really perfect marriage. Kirk Cousins wanted to be 92 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 7: somewhere where he would have a chance to start. It 93 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 7: seems likely he's probably going to start some games here, 94 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 7: and while they get Fernando Mendoza ready, this allows Mendoza 95 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 7: to sit on the bench and watch kirk Cousins, who 96 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 7: is clearly not competition. This is not a quarterback competition 97 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 7: we're going to have at the Raiders. He is a 98 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 7: true bridge quarterback to the future. Kirk Cousins is obviously 99 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 7: nearing the end of his career, but he can still 100 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 7: be a really solid quarterback. We saw that last year 101 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 7: when he had to play in Atlanta and he can 102 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 7: also be a superlative mentor for Fernando Mendoza, and that 103 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 7: is certainly something that Kubiak wanted to set up with 104 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 7: the Raiders, and now they seem. 105 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 8: To have it. 106 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were talking about this earlier offline. 107 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: We had our research Guy Adria, and we said, go 108 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: through I think Kubiak's history of quarterbacks, like why is 109 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: he so adamant about a quarterback sitting And you go 110 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: through the list and it's a lot of guys that 111 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,239 Speaker 1: maybe didn't live up the potential and there's guys that rested. 112 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: So there's no real part and fast formula in the 113 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: past for him. But this is clearly what he believes, 114 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: what the rest of the organization believes. John Spytek, the 115 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: general manager, maybe Tom Brady as well, with regard to 116 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: give this guy a little seasoning. Why rush it if 117 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: you don't have to, And now with Kirk Cousins, they. 118 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: Don't have to. 119 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: So they add a veteran shortly after adding a quarterbacks coach, 120 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: a experienced quarterbacks coach as well in Mike Sullivan recently. 121 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: So you look at Kirk Cousins being one of the 122 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: notable quarterback changes this offseason. 123 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: Judy as part of this list that we're about to show. 124 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a pretty extensive list of veteran quarterbacks that 125 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 7: have been on the moves. Of course, Kirk Cousins is 126 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 7: today's addition. Kyler Murray is going to be one that 127 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 7: we are really going to be watching in training camp. 128 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 7: To a tug of iolo, of course, leaving the Dolphins 129 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 7: for the Falcons, Let's bring in our Jeffrey Chedea and 130 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 7: Mark Ross. Jeffrey wrote his first read column today on 131 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 7: quarterbacks who could resurrect their careers this season. 132 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 6: This is like the annual Sam Darnold Award. I think 133 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 6: we should call it. 134 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 7: Let's start Jeffrey with a quarterback who really took a 135 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 7: big first step toward resurrecting his career in Indianapolis before 136 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 7: he unfortunately got hurt. 137 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 6: That's Daniel Jones, that's right. 138 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 8: And Daniel Jenald maybe low hanging through it here because 139 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 8: of the way he played last year, Judy, but I 140 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 8: love his chances of being that next Sam Darnold because 141 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 8: you look at what he did in his short time 142 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 8: with the coach. Before he tore that achilles late in 143 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 8: the season, he was playing the best football of his career. 144 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 8: Over three thousand passing yards, nineteen touchdowns, eight interceptions. 145 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 9: That team was. 146 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 8: Eight and two at one point looked like a real 147 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 8: championship contender. I look at what Shane Stikeen, the head coach, 148 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 8: is done with quarterbacks in the second year, going back 149 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 8: to when he had Jalen Hirsch and Philadelphia as the 150 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 8: OC there. Jalen Hursch made great strides in that year. 151 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 8: I see Daniel Jones mark as doing the same things. 152 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: Yere. 153 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 10: Yeah, in the spirit of the Easter season, Jeffrey, I 154 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 10: can't say they're going to roll the stoneback on this one. 155 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 10: I got some serious concerns about Daniel Jones. You mentioned 156 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 10: the hot start that was powered by Jonathan Taylor playing 157 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 10: like the MVP of the league, and Daniel Jones really 158 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 10: was just not making mistakes and making timely throws, but not. 159 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 5: Really going out there throwing for three hundred a game. 160 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 10: Then once defense is kind of figured out, hey, let's 161 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 10: just sell out and stop Jonathan Taylor. You saw Daniel 162 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 10: Jones's production declined significantly, lost four of his last five 163 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 10: before he got hurt and really was not playing well. 164 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 10: Started turning the ball over again. Saw that same worries 165 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 10: about Daniel Jones creeping up there, and then he ultimately 166 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 10: got injured once again. So next year I think defenses 167 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 10: are going to come at it once again. Hey, shut 168 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 10: down Jonathan Taylor, Daniel Jones. Number one, show that you 169 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 10: can beat us in number two? Can you stay on 170 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 10: the field, Judy. So there's a concerns I have with that. 171 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 8: Jeff Alrighty, Judy, Already we're starting with us times in 172 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 8: the show man. 173 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 7: I know, five minutes into the offseason, I feel like 174 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 7: we're how much is going to be a long summer? Okay, 175 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 7: onward to the Minnesota Vikings. Kyler Murray JJ McCarthy is there. 176 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 7: Can Kyler Murray resurrect his career there? 177 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 8: I love the opportunity here for Kyler Murray because one 178 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 8: he's coming and humbled, and this is the guy who's 179 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 8: had a ton of success throughout his career. It's one 180 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 8: of the first times he's coming in knowing he has 181 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 8: to prove something. Had the foot injury last year that 182 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 8: cost him twelve games, got run out of Arizona. Great 183 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 8: chance to get with Kevin O'Connell there, who's done a 184 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 8: really good job at quarterbacks. Have San Darnold there, obviously 185 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 8: and did great things with him. I think Kyler Murray 186 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 8: with that supporting cast with Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, dj Hockinson, 187 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 8: the way that he can play the improvisation here. It 188 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 8: may be a little bit of a square peg in 189 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 8: a round hole here getting him to be more disciplined, 190 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 8: but Mark, this specs all the sense in the world 191 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 8: for Kyler Murray playing in the same offense that Kevin 192 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 8: o'kinnell used to turn Donald around. 193 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: To get his own career turned around. 194 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 5: There you go. 195 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 10: This is the one jeff I was talking about this 196 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 10: when Kyler was still hanging out there. This would be 197 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 10: the perfect situation in comparing him to Sam Donald. Everybody 198 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 10: forgets Sam Donald got taken number three for a reason 199 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 10: because he had a ton of talent at USC that 200 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 10: he showed but never was really able to show it 201 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 10: before he played well. Kyler has shown that talent. He's 202 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 10: shown he can be a Pro Bowl caliber player, offensive 203 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 10: rookie of the year, the highest of highs. He just 204 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 10: has to become more consistent. And that was Sam's problem, 205 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 10: the consistency. But Sam never really had the highs that 206 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 10: Kyler did. So here you have Kyler with those high points, 207 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,479 Speaker 10: Let's see if he can get conant under Kevin O'Connell 208 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 10: with that infrastructure, doesn't have to be the guy to 209 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 10: carry it. We can see big things from Kyler Murray 210 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 10: if he puts in the work and gets that consistency. 211 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 6: Down, and if he can stay on the field all right. 212 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 7: Finally in Miami, Malik Willis, we certainly saw flashes of 213 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 7: what he could do in Green Bay last season. 214 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 6: Kenny continue it in Miami. 215 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 8: Well, this is a bit of a long shot here 216 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 8: because he's got a situation in Miami where they have 217 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 8: a long running. 218 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: Of state sale going on down there. 219 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 8: They're getting rid of everybody who's on that roster last 220 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 8: year who could actually play football. But I like what 221 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 8: he's been able to do as a backup in Green Bay. 222 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 8: He played three games as a starter when Jordan Love 223 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 8: was down, and he played well. He was two and 224 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 8: one as a starter, didn't turn the ball over, had 225 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 8: six touchdown passes. And I think about with Jeff Haffley, 226 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 8: the head coach and John Eric Sullivan at GM, they 227 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 8: were in Green Bay watching him work in practice and 228 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 8: getting his sense for him. This is not a guy 229 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 8: who was a big first round pick didn't work out 230 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 8: for him in Tennessee, but he's coming into a situation 231 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 8: in Miami where they know what he is and know 232 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 8: what he and even better know what they need to 233 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 8: put around him. So the supporting cast is going to 234 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 8: grow there. Maybe in twenty twenty seven, this makes more 235 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 8: sense for him to be on this list. But he's 236 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 8: on here for a reason. He's got talent, he's got 237 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 8: an opportunity, and Mark, I think he can turn things 238 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 8: around in Miami if things go right for him. 239 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, you hit this one right too. 240 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 10: And look, you got to give Malik Willis tons of 241 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 10: credit for how he made significant progress from Tennessee getting 242 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 10: there in Green Bay with those limited snats, But at 243 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 10: least he showed you why teams were excited about him. 244 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 5: He's got the arm. 245 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 10: The off the field is tremendous, as you've mentioned, because 246 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 10: those guys wanted him there. Supreme athlete there running around 247 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 10: the ball and just became more consistent. Now can he 248 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 10: do it on that as the guy and with all 249 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 10: that money, because a lot more expectations will be coming 250 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 10: his way. But I feel a lot better, as you said, 251 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 10: the sale of the state stale going on he's going 252 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 10: to be hanging out on South Beat by himself, crashing 253 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 10: those waves, rowing that boat, trying to get out there. 254 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 10: There's not a whole lot of talent around Belik Willis. 255 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 10: So yeah, if they can hang in this year and 256 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 10: he does lose his confidence and get to that next season, 257 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 10: get some infrastructure around him, Ben, we'll be able to 258 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 10: see Judia, jeff if he can be the guy. 259 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 7: All right, that was three quarterbacks, Jeffrey has five of them. 260 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 7: Read all about at NFL dot com slash Chadia Jeffrey Mark, 261 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 7: thank you very much. 262 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 6: When we return, we're. 263 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 7: Going to talk to Indiana coach National Championship coach Hurt Signetti. 264 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 6: But first we are going to talk. 265 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 7: To one of his players, Indiana wide receiver Elijah Sarratt. 266 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 6: He is coming up next on the Insiders. 267 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: Indiana Pro Day on Wednesday. Yes, a lot of eyes 268 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: we're on Fernando Mendoza, but you know, it takes two 269 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: to tango, and it takes a quarterback in the receiver 270 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: to complete a pass. Elijah Surat also eligible for this draft, 271 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: coming up here, and a guy that a lot of 272 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: teams are interested in it and the guy that we 273 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: are interested in talking to Lance zare Line along with 274 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: me Mike arrolfollow join now by indianaut wide receiver Elijah Surat, 275 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: who did everything at his pro day, all those workouts, 276 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: just ran routes at the combine. 277 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 2: Give us your assessment of how things went at the 278 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: pro day. 279 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 11: Yeah, I went real smooth, put a lot of work 280 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 11: in leading up to the process, so just about one 281 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 11: I was out there feeling confident with just the work 282 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 11: I put in, and then after results, man, I felt 283 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 11: like I did my best out there. I felt like 284 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 11: my times were good and felt like I approved what 285 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 11: I needed to prove out there. 286 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 12: Tell us about Elija, tell us about the process. A 287 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 12: lot of you guys, when you do this, you go through, 288 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 12: you know a lot of work at a specialized facility 289 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 12: to get you get your running as fast as you can, 290 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 12: changing directions as fast as you can for the you know, 291 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 12: for the drills. How is that for a player like you? 292 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 12: That's not what your game is built on. You're not 293 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 12: a drill guy. You're a football guy. What's that like 294 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 12: to go through that process knowing that you have to 295 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 12: do that, that's part of the process, even though it's 296 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 12: not really football for you. 297 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 11: Yeah, like you said, one hundred percent of football. Guy 298 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 11: in the white lines is what I do best. But 299 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 11: you just had that head down mentally. It's something you 300 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 11: gotta do, man. You gotta accept it on and just 301 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 11: take it head on. 302 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 9: Man. 303 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 11: So it was a quick turnaround coming from the championship. 304 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 11: You had a week off and then it was straight 305 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 11: to training. So for me, it was one making sure 306 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 11: my body felt good and then two just embracing the 307 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 11: work that was set forth. Man. 308 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 13: We had a down to. 309 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 11: Xpem for a lauder there with I got Tony and 310 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 11: Matt down there and great, great facility. There's so many 311 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 11: legends I've been through that on facility, man. So for me, 312 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 11: it was just trusting the work that they were telling 313 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 11: me to do and then just taking it head on 314 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 11: like I said. 315 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 13: But it was great work down there. 316 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: Sixty five receptions, eight hundred and thirty receiving yards. You 317 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: see the fifteen touchdowns right there, which is almost double 318 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: the eighth that you had in your two previous college 319 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: football seasons. Look, I know you'll never be a rhtt 320 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: Lewis when it comes to Indiana Wide receivers. 321 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: Our colleague here at NFL Network, it. 322 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: Went by the name Kleinschmidt when he played in Indiana, 323 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: and I know you know rhet extremely well. 324 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: We love the jab them here and there. 325 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: But when I talked to Red for the scouting report, 326 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: he talked about how polished you are, how smart you are, 327 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: and how complete of a wide receiver that you are. 328 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: Do you appreciate that assessment and listen the fact that 329 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: you're always open? 330 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: You got that waffle house nickname. 331 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 11: Yeah, I definitely appreciate it coming from someone like him. Man, 332 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 11: We've chopped it up so many times and he gives 333 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 11: me nothing but phrase every single time. And so someone 334 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 11: like that in my corner, man, it means a lot 335 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 11: to me. 336 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 12: I want to take you back to I don't know 337 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 12: if a lot of people know about your background before 338 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 12: those sixteen touchdowns at James Madison, you had thirteen at 339 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 12: Saint Francis, and I know you left one high school 340 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 12: to go to another one to test yourself. Your entire 341 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 12: background is about testing yourself. It's about saying I want 342 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 12: to be better, I can do more. People don't know 343 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 12: I can do more. I can do more, and you've 344 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 12: done more every step of the way. Talk about that 345 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 12: drive in you internally and that chip on your shoulders. 346 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 12: There's a lot of five stars who come out and 347 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 12: I checked their backgrounds and I'm writing them up as 348 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 12: priority free agents and maybe late draftables. And then there's 349 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 12: guys like you, like Jared Verse, for example, who came 350 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 12: from Albany, who come from more meager beginnings, but that 351 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 12: drive never stops. It's what drives them and fuels their 352 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 12: fire into the NFL. 353 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 11: Yeah, those humble beginnings is what gets me on here 354 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 11: right now. It has me talking to you guys right now. Man, 355 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 11: Like I could show you guys my phone right here, 356 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 11: just hundreds of emails, dms that I would send the coaches, jucos, 357 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 11: everybody went out. 358 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 13: So it's my senior year. 359 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 11: Throughout the senior throughout the season, I ended up losing 360 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 11: all my offers, and by February March, I ended up 361 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 11: Saint Francis University and hit me up, man. So that 362 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 11: was the only that was basically the only offer I 363 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 11: handle on my end of my senior season. 364 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 9: Man. 365 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 11: So it's that drive of those humble beginnings, man, It's 366 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 11: what has my chip on my shoulder, from going to 367 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 11: Saint Francis, the JAMU to any end in my past 368 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 11: two years. 369 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 13: Man, it's gonna con seem to be what drives me 370 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 13: throughout my career. 371 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: So Jmu Tandyana is certainly a lot of experience with 372 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti. You and Fernando Mendoza found your chemistry. You 373 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: needed to work on some things and work on that. 374 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: It's not like it was just automatic, that back shoulder 375 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: throw that you connected on so many times, which is 376 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: such a huge part of the offense in the NFL. 377 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: How did you develop that chemistry, particularly with that route. 378 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 13: Yeah, really just it comes from a lot of reps. 379 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,479 Speaker 11: To be honest, I try to make it easy for him, 380 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 11: just tell him, let me get my hands on it, 381 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 11: and he took it to another level and just started 382 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 11: just right there. 383 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 13: That's the clips. I see it amazing me every time 384 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 13: he puts it on the money. 385 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 4: Man. 386 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 13: But I remember in the beginning. 387 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 11: Of the season, I had sent him some Aaron Rodgers 388 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 11: and Devonte Adams clips, so them doing some back shoulders 389 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 11: because they were great on it, man, and we just 390 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 11: from there, we just kind of worked on it after practice, 391 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 11: we will work on it a little bit, and then 392 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 11: just built those reps and trust man. I trusted him 393 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 11: a hundred percent he trusted me, man, and that goes 394 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 11: a long way with those back shoulders. 395 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 5: How much change your name. 396 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 12: He's wilful house, but it's going to be because he's 397 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 12: open late. 398 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 5: And this is what this is. 399 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 9: The thing with it. 400 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 12: I remember I watched all your throat a lot of 401 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 12: contested catches right your games. I've built on speed and 402 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 12: explosive separation, but what it is built on is finding 403 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 12: ways to get open late, the ability to create space 404 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 12: on the catch, space when the contested catch. That's a mentality, 405 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 12: that's a certain type of mentality. Harkens back to the 406 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 12: previous question where you have that drive, talk about that ability. 407 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 12: Some guys do it with speed. You do it with physicality, positioning, 408 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 12: a body control. 409 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 13: Yeah. 410 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 11: Like for me, I feel like, no matter if the 411 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 11: dudes right here on me, if he's in my grill, 412 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 11: I feel like I'm open. I feel like I can 413 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 11: make a catch man like. And I feel like that 414 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 11: will translate to the next song on Sundays. Man, they'll do, 415 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 11: they'll do. They're athletes, man, They're they're great athletes. Man. 416 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 11: They get out those breaks quick and then I have 417 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 11: to catches arkantested catches. So I'll pride myself on even 418 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 11: if I'm even if I'm covering, I'm not covered. You 419 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,959 Speaker 11: feel me, you just gotta have that mentality as a receiver, 420 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 11: and I feel like I've had that mentality since I've 421 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 11: played receiver. 422 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,959 Speaker 1: Now a side note here from what I gather, there 423 00:18:56,040 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: are no waffle houses in Bloomington, Indiana. Did that nickname 424 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: come from your JMU days? 425 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 13: And yeah, it came. It came from my gm U days. 426 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 11: Came from my pops actually, because it seemed like every 427 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 11: every third down or something, every every big player coming 428 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 11: to me. 429 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 13: And then you know he's on Facebook. 430 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 11: He ain't got too many people on Facebook, Sam toomor 431 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 11: nobody's really seeing it, but he's staying at WAHF House, 432 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 11: WAHLD house. And then I had an interview at Indiana 433 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 11: my junior year, like what's your nickname? 434 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 13: And I just happen to say it playing around. I'll 435 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 13: go on Twitter a couple hours later blowing up and 436 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 13: Perio are to day. I got my own merch with it, 437 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 13: and everything is crazy. 438 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:33,959 Speaker 2: That's awesome, all right? 439 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: Before I let you go, from what I gather, and 440 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: these these got to be great if you got them. 441 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: I hear you have two impressions that you can do 442 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: extremely well. 443 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 2: Kurtzy, get your head coach. 444 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: And Fernando Mendoza your quarterback, give us one, give us both. 445 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 2: Whatever you want to do here. I can't wait to 446 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 2: see this. 447 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 13: Well. I don't know how great it be. But go 448 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 13: with my guy, coach Sick. I'm my god, coach sick. 449 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 11: But if you're going his office, man, just going, I 450 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 11: wish I couldhow you don have to speed kicked up 451 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 11: on his desk. Probably have to film up. He has 452 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 11: to film up every single the time. Anyway, shops track 453 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,959 Speaker 11: ain't down or something. And then and then I say something. 454 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 11: I say something you look slow to day in practice 455 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 11: or something man, And it's just funny. He always get 456 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 11: on you, but you've sent since the loving what he's saying. 457 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 11: And then Fernando. We so every on Friday before the 458 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 11: game we will meet up and as an offense and 459 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 11: go over like the plays and stuff, watch some film. 460 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 11: And then it was one I forget what week it was, 461 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 11: but we were getting a lot of the team run 462 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 11: a lot of cover zero, so we had checks and 463 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 11: then he's just going through it and he's like, all right, guys, 464 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 11: when we get this look I'm gonna check it, and 465 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 11: I'm gonna tap my temples and I'm gonna say check, check, check, 466 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 11: and you should. Just the way he was saying that, 467 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 11: me and the receivers were looking at each other busting 468 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 11: out laughing, and. 469 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 13: It was funny. 470 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 11: Man, he's got no Fernando and he's goofy, but he's 471 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 11: my guy. 472 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 14: Man. 473 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 13: I love him a lot. 474 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 12: Yeah, I think right. 475 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: They say, how can how can this guy relate to 476 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: the rest of the locker room? 477 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 2: There he's goofy, but he's there guy lace. That's how 478 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 2: I That's awesome, Elijah Surratt. We appreciate you. 479 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: We look forward to many years of you performing well 480 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: on the field and impersonating your quarterbacks and your head coaches. Man, 481 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: great on you, Congratulations on all your success, and good 482 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: luck in this draft. 483 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 13: Talking to you all, I have a bill with good luck. 484 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 5: Officially hung up his spikes. 485 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 4: Five time Pro bowler, two nineteen events Player of the 486 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 4: Year Defon Gilmour has announced his retirement. Did not play 487 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 4: last season, got of sat out hoping for the right deal, 488 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 4: but I think at the time we knew that was 489 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 4: probably it. He has officially announced his retirement today. One 490 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 4: of the best corners of a generation. Kayer Elom is 491 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 4: still trying to get his footing in the NFL. Former 492 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 4: Bills first rounder has agreed to terms with the Kansas 493 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 4: City Chiefs per Me and Mike garriffol As his agent 494 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 4: John Pursley tells us, he hopes for a fresh start 495 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 4: and potentially the opportunity to come in as a starting. 496 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 5: Corner in KC. 497 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 4: The big story today Kirk Cousin lands in Las Vegas, 498 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 4: a potential or should it's a likely starting quarterback for 499 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 4: Vegas despite the fact that they are almost certainly going 500 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 4: to draft for Nanda Mendoza at number one. Plenty there 501 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 4: to chew on. Brian Baldinger, Mark Ross, get in here. 502 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 4: Let's chat about this a little bit. And Baldy, I 503 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 4: want to start with you. You have seen Kirk Cousins plenty. 504 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 4: You obviously have studied for Dana Mendoza. You know both 505 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 4: these guys are Like, what do you make of the 506 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 4: signing of Kirk Cousins in Las Vegas and the dynamic 507 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 4: that is going to face both these guys going forward. 508 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 15: I think it's a smart move by the Raiders. They're 509 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 15: making a lot of good moves. This is smart move. 510 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 15: I mean, Barker's around with the Eagles when they dined 511 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 15: Donald McNabb as the. 512 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 9: Second pick of the draft. 513 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 15: Doug Peterson started the Giants, you know, started Kirk Warner 514 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 15: before Eli Manning got a chance. John Kittnick kept Carson 515 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 15: Former on the bench for an entire year. Kirk Cousins, 516 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 15: first of all, he won his last four starts last 517 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 15: year in Atlanta, finished the season very strong. But he's 518 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 15: reunited with Klick Kirkubiak, who was his quarterback coach and 519 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 15: offensive coordinator in Minnesota for three years. In fact, Kurt's 520 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 15: the only playoff winlink Kubiak was the quarterback coach in 521 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 15: Minnesota in twenty nineteen. 522 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 9: He can call these plays right now. I think that's 523 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 9: a benefit for Fernando Mendoza. 524 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 15: Now, look, if Fernando goes out there and just balls 525 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 15: out preseason and he fled out, wins the job. He's 526 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 15: a starter. But you know, it's a great it's a 527 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 15: great guy to have in the room, in that quarterback room. 528 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 15: With all the experience and knowledge that Kirk has, It's 529 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 15: only going to help the development of Fernando Mendoza right now. 530 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 10: Yeah, Baldi, you mentioned the relationship with with Kobiak and Kurt, 531 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 10: and we saw that big trend in the off season 532 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 10: of people going and coaches and players matching up with 533 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 10: that relationship. So that completely makes sense. And yet this 534 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 10: is all about Fernando Mendoz And I like this if 535 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 10: Kirk Cousins is going to go in there to be 536 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 10: a mentor and a teacher and guide him, but not 537 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 10: as the guy because as we've seen, you know, you 538 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 10: mentioned some back in the day that was more of 539 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 10: the the way to go about it, or have the 540 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 10: veteran and wait for the rookie to start. 541 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 5: But these last few drafts, these last three drafts. 542 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 10: Really show you the advantage of what happens if you 543 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 10: play these young guys cam Ward last year, Jackson Dark, 544 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 10: Tyler Shook. I mean, just look at the experience they 545 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 10: gained the year before, Caleb Williams and Jayden Daniels and 546 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 10: Drake May and Bo Nicks. Look how much further along 547 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 10: those guys were when they played, and even if they 548 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 10: were in bad situations, and like Drake May, he came 549 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 10: out of it here too, goes to the Super Bowl. 550 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 10: So I think for Fernando Mendoza right now, the Raiders 551 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 10: have a good infrastructure with the offseason signings. Again, still 552 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 10: do some more work in the draft so that Fernando Mendoza, 553 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 10: who is very mature, who can handle things on the 554 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 10: field off field, won the national championship. He's in a 555 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 10: good situation to go there and play. Just like these 556 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 10: other guys, work through the hard parts of it gets 557 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 10: better throughout the season. Maybe he does it this year, 558 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 10: but then year two he's even set up a lot better, 559 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 10: much like all those guys that I just mentioned. 560 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,959 Speaker 4: Really, what this feels to be, guys, is insurance like 561 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 4: to pay twenty kirk Cousins twenty million dollars then seem 562 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 4: to me that anyone else was willing to pay kirk 563 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 4: Cousins more than the sensual minimum salary that he would 564 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 4: have gotten when you consider the Falcons were already paying 565 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 4: him ten. But basically what they did was they got 566 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 4: themselves the starter, and if they have to start for 567 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 4: Nanda Mendoza, that means he's so good that they're happy 568 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 4: to waste the money they paid Kirk Cousins because they 569 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 4: got a franchise quarterback and nothing else matters. If that 570 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 4: is the case for Las Vegas Raiders, then life is good. 571 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 4: He's going to be their guy for fifteen years, and 572 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 4: you don't care about the ten million dollars fully guaranteed 573 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 4: roster bonus that's going to Kirk Cousins in March. 574 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 5: Guys, great stuff. 575 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 9: As always appreciate. 576 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 4: You excellent perspective on what is going to be the fascinating, 577 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 4: fascinating situation going forward in Las Vegas. 578 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 12: Garifolo, take it away. 579 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: That's me And that is a post from Tony Holzman Escarno. 580 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: Last night we showed it and I said, NFL researcher' 581 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: oh wait, wait, whose account is that in the picture? 582 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 2: Too small? 583 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: It's Tony, My bad. I got it right tonight. Here's 584 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: Mendoza's stats from his pro day. Yes against no defense, 585 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: but you'd like to see as many completions. You don't 586 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: want to see the ball hit the ground and only 587 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: did apparently three times there. 588 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 2: So those are the numbers. 589 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 1: And here is more analysis via his head coach at Indiana, 590 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: Kurtz Signetti, with our ret Lewis coach. 591 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 16: Unprecedented success in your two year run here so far 592 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 16: in Indiana, obviously coming off the national championship, and a 593 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 16: day like today feels kind of emblematic of that success. 594 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 16: You got twenty eight players out here, a chance to 595 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 16: set a record program record for the number of players 596 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 16: drafted in front of all thirty two teams here today. 597 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 16: What does a day like this say about where this 598 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 16: program is. 599 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 14: Well, everything's an not given and these guys have earned 600 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 14: it and to have the NFL network here and this 601 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 14: kind of turnout is a result of the commitment that 602 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 14: they've made in the success that they've had on football field. 603 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 16: So many foundational players right that are kind of making 604 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 16: their transition now to the NFL, guys that came with you. 605 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 16: When you think back about some of those guys in 606 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 16: the mark they left here in helping get this program 607 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 16: to the top of college football, how does that strike 608 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 16: you on to day like today. 609 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 14: Oh, they definitely accelerated the process. They knew the standard, 610 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 14: the expectation, how we do things, and then we brought 611 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 14: a lot of new faces in that were high character, 612 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 14: dependable guys that you know, took it to another level 613 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 14: and just a great group of guys. 614 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 17: Special, no question. 615 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 16: For Nando Mendoza a big part of that, and we'll 616 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 16: see him obviously today as well. But coach, you watched 617 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 16: a lot of cal tape to evaluate him, to bring 618 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 16: him here to Indiana, and now having watched the sixteen 619 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 16: game run culminating with the national title, how would you 620 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 16: evaluate him right now? 621 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 17: It didn't take much cal tape. 622 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 14: I mean I saw after three or four plays, the 623 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 14: physical attributes and having the young one here and knowing 624 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 14: the family and how they were brought up, you know, 625 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 14: the competitiveness, intelligence, that kind of thing. 626 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 17: Special on tangibles. He came a long way. 627 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 14: But I've never been around anybody that has ever prepared 628 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 14: like he did. He wanted to be a great player. 629 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 14: Tom Brady was his idol and did everything within the 630 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 14: realm possibility to be the best he can be and 631 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 14: won the Heisman, and he played his best at the 632 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 14: end when the games were tight and went sixteen to zero. 633 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 14: Probably be the first guy taken in the draft. The 634 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 14: thing I will say. 635 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 17: Is, as good as he is, he still will. 636 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 14: Improve immensely and barely scratch the surface of his potential, 637 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 14: but compete and when the chips are down, plays very 638 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 14: very best respect from his teammates because of the type 639 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 14: of competitor he is and how he prepares. 640 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 16: Special Guy Iowa, Oregon, Penn State Big Ten Championship, National 641 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 16: Championship run through the CFP. I mean it, certainly the 642 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 16: resume speaks for itself in that regard, Coach, how would 643 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 16: you describe maybe his arc of development from the moment 644 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 16: he got here to the moment you guys were hoisting 645 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 16: the national championship trophy in Miami? 646 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,239 Speaker 14: Slow development in the spring, like most of the new 647 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 14: quarterbacks we've gotten. We've had a lot of one year 648 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 14: transfer quarterbacks that are going to be player of the 649 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 14: year in the conference. Better in fall camp, built off 650 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 14: early season's success. Normally there's a game in the first 651 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 14: two or three where they really play well and take off, 652 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 14: and the same could be said for him. But the 653 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 14: thing about him is what he really put on tape 654 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 14: and showed was when you were playing in those big games, 655 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 14: when the game was on the line, how he played 656 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 14: his very best insure that's a special quality. 657 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 9: Now right, wrong or indifferent? 658 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 16: There's certainly been some conversation out there about how his 659 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 16: performance within the concepts of this offense maybe aren't exactly 660 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 16: what he'll see in the NFL. 661 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 9: How would you say that his execution of. 662 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 16: What you guys asked him to do translates to the NFL. 663 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 14: Oh, people got to have something to talk about, right, 664 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 14: I Mean, there's a lot of time between the last 665 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 14: game of the season in the NFL drafts, so people 666 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 14: come up about anything. 667 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 9: He's going to go in there. 668 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 14: And learn the system, learn the footwork, repetitions and mother learning. 669 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 14: You learn the most from the games, and he's gonna 670 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 14: be just fine. You know, he's got to have a 671 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 14: supporting cast. He's got to have time to throw the ball. 672 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 14: Guys that can separate, and it's a process. And but 673 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 14: Fernando Mendoza will be a great football player one day 674 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 14: in the NFL. 675 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 16: Got a bunch of his teammates obviously here he's going 676 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 16: to throw to Omar Cooper. Could be the second first 677 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 16: round pick here for you this year. Elijah Surratt, we'll 678 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 16: hear his name called. I mean, D'Angelo Pon's aiden, Fisher, 679 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 16: Pat Coogan, Like the list goes and goes on and on. 680 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 16: When you think about the the impact of some of 681 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 16: those other guys as a part of this day here today, 682 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 16: what stands out to you. 683 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 14: I mean just the type of people they were, Yeah, 684 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 14: high character, extremely intelligent, great locker room guys, very consistent. 685 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 14: Day in day out, game in game out play and 686 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 14: play out winners, and guys that love football and love preparing. 687 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 14: Guys you could count on, which is important. So there's 688 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 14: a lot of them and I'm sure they'll do well today. 689 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 16: Got a good group ready to attack another journey here 690 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 16: this next year. 691 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 17: We'll find out, coach, Thanks very much. 692 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 7: Three weeks from tonight, almost to the minute. Actually it's 693 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 7: the first round of the NFL Draft. That's April twenty third, live, 694 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 7: eight pm Eastern. You can basically see it everywhere you 695 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 7: turn ESPN, NFL Network, ABC, NFL plus ESPN Deportees. It's 696 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,479 Speaker 7: all presented by Verizon. We're going to talk to our 697 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 7: Lancer Line and Mark Ross. They're taking us to scouting school, 698 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 7: telling us how they evaluate prospects. 699 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 12: Thank you, Judy, I'm with my man Mark. He was 700 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 12: in the room where it happens, as they said in Hamilton. 701 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 12: And let's get right to it. Mark, I want to 702 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 12: talk about a couple of positions, running back and safety. 703 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 12: We're going to go into the scouting side. We watch 704 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,719 Speaker 12: hours and hours it takes, but what are we looking for. Well, 705 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 12: let's start with running backs. Give me a couple of 706 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 12: the traits that you think are the most important traits 707 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 12: for running backs. And then maybe one that's a little 708 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 12: bit over it. 709 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 17: Yeah. 710 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 10: Again, as a disclaimer for people out there, there's maybe 711 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 10: twenty trades, but we're just trying to break them down 712 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 10: a super important ones. 713 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 5: First for the running back, his vision and lance. 714 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 10: That's the ability to fin a hole, too, to know 715 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 10: how to git around your blockers and set those up. 716 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 10: And three the anticipation of once you see it, once 717 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 10: you set up your block, okay, where am I going? 718 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 10: Where the tackler is? And then too, combined with that 719 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 10: vision is short area quickness in your movements, and that's 720 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 10: just the ability to get from one place to another. 721 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 10: You see the whole, I feel the hole, how do 722 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 10: I get there? And that's really you could be a 723 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 10: big back, a small back, of medium sized back, different sizes, 724 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 10: the ability to quickly shift in those tight spaces to get. 725 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 5: To that whole. 726 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 10: One kind of overrated trait is that big long speed. 727 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 10: And as we show on this, the guy who does 728 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 10: have this big long speed in Jeremy, I love which 729 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 10: separates the good, the very good, the super great, and 730 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,959 Speaker 10: that's what he's got, that long speed. 731 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 5: But you could be a great back and not have 732 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 5: that long speed lance. 733 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 9: Yeah, I love all that. 734 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 12: I think visions exceptionally important and the feel for how 735 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 12: the run lane is developing. You know, the run lane 736 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 12: has a life of its own. You got to feel it. 737 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 12: I think something that also plays in there is decisiveness. 738 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 12: I want to running back that is decisive. Now we're 739 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 12: looking at Generium Price here to me has some of 740 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 12: the best feel for run lane development and vision in 741 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 12: this draft. I think it's outstanding. 742 00:33:58,480 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 6: Now. 743 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 12: I also love the fact that he is a decisive 744 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 12: back and goes where he needs to. 745 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 9: I'm with you. 746 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 12: Speed completely overrated for a running back. Let's get to safeties. Now, 747 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 12: these are the guys on the back end that we 748 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 12: need to, you know, the last line of defense. Their playmakers, 749 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 12: their run stoppers. There's different types of flavors of safeties. 750 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 12: Tell me some important play traits that you look for 751 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 12: physical traits in the safety in once again, one more 752 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:24,760 Speaker 12: that's a little over eighted. 753 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 10: You talking about the different things they do. Number one 754 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 10: is the versatility. Hey, I gotta go cover people, I 755 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 10: gonna go tackle, i'd of gotta go thump. I gotta 756 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 10: get everybody lined up. So that versatility of what safeties 757 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 10: do and not just be stuck in one hole one 758 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 10: position of Okay, I can only go pull the line 759 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 10: of scriminats, I can only play in the box. To 760 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 10: be able to be versatile like that guy is Caleb 761 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 10: Downs and combined with number two is the instincts, and 762 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 10: that guy has outstanding instincts, much like a running back 763 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 10: with the vision, the ability to put themselves in situation, 764 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 10: anticipate what's going on, anticipate routes, be able to read 765 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 10: their defensive lineman, the linebackers up front, flowing where they're 766 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 10: going and putting themselves in position to make plays at 767 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,959 Speaker 10: an overrated one is really part of the physical traits. 768 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 10: You'll get to the other one his size, you know. 769 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 10: You know, I think Kyle Hamilton has spoiled everybody Nicko 770 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 10: Matawari last year of these big old safeties. But you 771 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 10: look at most of the great safeties in history, the 772 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 10: Ed Reeves and Troy pol models, they weren't monstrous kind 773 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 10: of guys. Lance, No, I think you made a great 774 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 10: point about the versatility. One of the guys that I 775 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 10: think fits at is Emanual McNeil Warren as well out 776 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:30,760 Speaker 10: of Toledo. 777 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 12: You know, he can play as a down safety. He's 778 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 12: a thumper, but he's got some back end stuff to 779 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 12: him as well and some ball skills, And I think 780 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 12: that gets to the instincts. Dylan Thaneman as well from 781 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 12: Oregon Caleb Downs. Those three first round caliber safeties have 782 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 12: those instincts that you talked about, and that's one of 783 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 12: the reasons. And I'm going to skip to what I 784 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 12: think is a little overrated to speed, because when you 785 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 12: have great instincts, you can play faster. You recognize where 786 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 12: the quarterback's going, you recognize route combinations, and you're able 787 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 12: to range faster speeds a little overrated. I do think 788 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 12: it's very important to mention tackling Mark because open field tackling, 789 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 12: a lot of times you're the last line of defense. 790 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 12: You screw that up in a big play is hit 791 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 12: that could be the difference in the game. So open 792 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 12: field tackling another one, and I think you have to 793 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 12: be at least functional and if you're a good tackler, 794 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 12: all the better for the safety. That's for Mark in 795 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 12: Flance here as our scouts school. We'll do it next 796 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,280 Speaker 12: week again with some new positions. 797 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 1: Four linebackers in DJ's Top fifty, starting with Sunny Styles 798 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 1: his third overall prospects j Allen from George, Anthony Hill 799 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 1: Junior from Texas Jacob Riguez Texas Tech. 800 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 2: If you want to see all fifty. 801 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,760 Speaker 1: You know where to go nfl dot com slash top 802 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: fifty for DJ's Top fifty four points. Oh, Baldy, come 803 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 1: on in here with me and Judiepatista. Let's talk about 804 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: not a traditional linebacker, but a guy who can play 805 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: on the edge and get off the ball. R bel 806 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: Reese number five on DJ's Top fifty. 807 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 9: He is pure and he's twitched like, just twitched up. 808 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 9: He's a will linebacker. 809 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 15: Don't give him the green dot, don't get have him 810 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 15: get guys lined up. Let him just go run and 811 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 15: hit because he can unlock his hips like nobody else. Now, 812 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 15: just let him go find the ball. Let's go chase that. 813 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 15: He's gonna get you down. He could come off the edge, 814 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 15: he did for Mount Patricia a little bit last year. 815 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 15: But he's also a spy. You want to put him 816 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 15: on Lamar Jackson on third down or Josh Allen on 817 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 15: third down. 818 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 9: He can spied a quarterback. He did some of that 819 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 9: this year. You can put him on the edge. 820 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,399 Speaker 15: But I think he's an off the ball inside will 821 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 15: linebacker right now, and he is a piece of just 822 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 15: excitement waiting to happen when he's out there on the field. 823 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 7: Right now, let's talk about the linebackers. The number one 824 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 7: linebacker overall, number three player overall sunny styles. 825 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 15: He's an amazing individual, honestly, Judy. He came into Ohio 826 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 15: stateium was seventeen years old. You know, I ended up 827 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 15: playing safety his first two years, and he really evolved, 828 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 15: and then he became the starting linebacker in twenty twenty four, 829 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 15: and you know, had over one hundred tackles on the 830 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 15: National championship team. And there's really nothing he can't do. 831 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 15: I mean, he's a true mic linebacker. Call the signals, 832 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 15: get everybody lined up, make all the audible checks like 833 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 15: he can, and then he can play fast on top 834 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 15: of it, and so he can thump, he can run, 835 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 15: he can cover. You see him dropping into space sometimes 836 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 15: you know, in the deep in the deep curl and 837 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 15: the deep hook zones, and he can get back the 838 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 15: way that guy's got to be able to do to 839 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 15: take the pass the game away. 840 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 9: So he dj did his homework. 841 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 15: When he started him The other guy that I want 842 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 15: to bring up here at the linebacker position is a 843 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 15: guy that's more known right now maybe for. 844 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 9: His mustache, and that's Jacob Rodriguez. The guy is unreal. 845 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 9: The guy's got. 846 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 15: Thirteen forced fumble since he transferred to Virginia to Texas Tech. 847 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 15: He's got a bunch of sacks, he's got six interceptions. 848 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 5: I saw him this. 849 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 15: Year against BYU and he was the most dominant player 850 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 15: on the field that day. 851 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 6: Uh. 852 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 15: He was a former quarterback in Virginia, a former you know, 853 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 15: h back there at Virginia. They transferred and became a 854 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 15: linebacker there. And he's got raw, raw, real instinct. 855 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:13,720 Speaker 9: Uh. 856 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 15: He has perfected the peanut punch. He can knock that 857 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 15: ball out. It's a real skill, like there is like 858 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 15: he just has that ability. 859 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 9: And he had over two hundred and fifty tackles the 860 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 9: last two years, so he is Uh, he tested very well. 861 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,479 Speaker 15: But he's an exciting player just because he's like urgent care. 862 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 15: He can just have instant diagnosis of what the hell 863 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 15: you're doing on the other. 864 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 9: Side of the ball. 865 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 7: That was an outstanding Baldies breakdown, Baldi. We need some 866 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 7: Baldies breakdown swag like you're wearing right now. 867 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 6: Send it to our homes please. 868 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 18: If you don't mind it, look if you wear it, yes, 869 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 18: just try just try code Insiders. 870 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 2: See what that does for you. Judy, Okay, alright, probably not. 871 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 9: I'll put the link up tonight. 872 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 6: Make thanks, Baldy. 873 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 4: If you like the Insiders, and judging by the fact 874 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 4: that you're watching right now, you do, this is where 875 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 4: you can get it seven pm every single weekday, Monday 876 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 4: through Friday, on NFL Network, NFL Plus YouTube. There's a 877 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 4: bunch of social media eclips when I tweet it. There's 878 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 4: a lot of places you can get the Insiders. It 879 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 4: is scheduled, it is regular, and it is awesome and spectacular. 880 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 4: As by the way, are the Atlanta Falcons new uniforms. 881 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,879 Speaker 4: They are very red, not all of them. The ones 882 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 4: that are white are very very white. Anyway, I thought 883 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 4: these are cool, fire, as one might say. 884 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 5: The Atlanta Falcons got a lot to. 885 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 4: Be excited for, and now they have new uniforms to 886 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 4: be excited for as well. 887 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 7: You know, if who's getting all girl dad, lots of 888 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 7: new clothes coming. Josh Allen and Hallie Steinfeld had their 889 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:03,760 Speaker 7: first baby and it's a ya. Congratulations to Josh Allen 890 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 7: and Haley Steinfeld. Can't wait to see the baby pictures. 891 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: Guys, first comes love, then comes marriage. So let's go 892 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: to the nuptials of Alex Ward, Raiders long snapper, and 893 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: Angela kolakov Ward, former tennis professional tennis player holding there 894 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 1: from war. She gave credit to aj Cole, the Raiders punter, 895 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: for the holding tips. 896 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 2: Listen, that is really good, really good to get that 897 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 2: ball down like I know, it's really good. Ian. 898 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 9: How do I know. 899 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 4: Anyone could do that? Any idiot could No, not any idiot. 900 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 4: Most idiots could do a hold properly. Not this idiot. 901 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 4: That Garfall has no hands. He's got hands like feet. Seriously, 902 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 4: I could actually do this with my feet. Mike can't 903 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 4: even do with his hands. All I want is, Mike, 904 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 4: I don't understand. You used to be an athlete. Didn't 905 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 4: you play football and baseball at some point. 906 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 5: Back in the day. You can't catch? Why can't you catch. 907 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 2: From time to time? 908 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 1: I played tennis from time to time, but I wouldn't 909 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: go up against Angela kolakov Ward and that either. She 910 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: did a great job, so you can catch it. 911 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,280 Speaker 12: Mike, You're so bad. 912 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 2: He snapped it. Look at that, look at that's amazing. 913 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 2: I am all congratulations. 914 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,720 Speaker 5: Laces out in everything. We should watching it again. 915 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,240 Speaker 2: Raven's Coach interview with him on Friday. Be with Us