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The Colin Coward Podcast 11 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: presented by The Fan Duel Sports Book. Hi, everybody, welcome in. 12 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: Ian O'Connor, New York Post columnist, my favorite columnists in 13 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: the country. He's written books on Derek Jeter, called The 14 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: Captain Belichick, Coach K, the Reign of Mike Shachevsky. I've 15 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: read all of them. Just finished the Coach K book. 16 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: He's got to talk Giants, Yankees, Derek Jeter, what to 17 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: do with Daniel Jones Live Golf Tour which just made 18 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: a stop in the Northeast, and Phil Mickelson got heckled, 19 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: and some Tom Brady stuff, The Revelation in twenty nineteen 20 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: he was talking to the Dolphins owner while he was 21 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,559 Speaker 1: a member of the Patriots. So I went back about 22 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: four or five years, and I was looking at the 23 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: last four or five years of NFL standings. On average, 24 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: there are about eight to nine what I would call 25 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: super Bowl teams. These are double digit win teams ten 26 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: and six or better with a sixteen game schedule. Now 27 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: I think those teams have to be It feels like 28 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: to me, a super Bowl team should have eleven wins, 29 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: be sort of, you know, eleven and six to me 30 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: feels like a super Bowl team. So an elite team 31 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: very good. Then the league has about ten to twelve 32 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: teams in the middle, right that our potential playoff teams, 33 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,839 Speaker 1: probably too many holes to be a super Bowl team, 34 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: And then about ten really bad teams. Ten really bad teams. 35 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: Some are and I say bad, I mean four games 36 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: under five hundred or worse. So I tried to before 37 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: the season starts. I thought, Okay, I'm gonna put him 38 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: in those three groups very good teams capable of winning 39 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: a super Bowl. There's thirteen I have. This is the 40 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: biggest number I can ever remember thinking, not saying they will, 41 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: but I think they could get breaks. Buffalo, Kansas City, Chargers, Denver, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Niners, Tampa, Rams, Arizona, 42 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: Green Bay, Minnesota. That's twelve. Then I have ten teams 43 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: that I consider can't win a Super Bowl, but several 44 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: redeeming qualities. In the NFC, it's very few. Washington, Dallas, 45 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: and Philly in the AFC, Indie, Tennessee, Cleveland, New England, Miami, 46 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, can't win a Super Bowl, could could 47 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: win ten games, maybe eleven. But they've got somewhere. They've 48 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: got a hole. Maybe it's a coaching hole in Dallas. 49 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: Maybe it's a perimeter playmaker hole like New England. Maybe 50 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: it's a distraction hole like Cleveland. Or maybe it's just 51 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: good not special. Quarterback Tennessee, Ryan Tannehill. So I have 52 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: twelve teams Buffalo, Kansas City, Chargers, Denver, Baltimore, Cinc. Minnesota, 53 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: Green Bay, Arizona, Rams, Tampa, Niners, I think are really 54 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: special teams. Maybe a hole, not several. I've got ten 55 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: I think have several redeeming qualities. Again, Dallas, Washington, Philly 56 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: in the NFC, Raiders, Steelers, Miami, New England, Cleveland, Tennessee. 57 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: Indie in the AFC, and that leaves ten really bad 58 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: teams in the NFL Jets, Giants, Jaxonville, Houston, Atlanta, New Orleans, Carolina, Seattle, Chicago. 59 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: I think they're going to be awful in Detroit. Now 60 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: some people like Detroit. I've looked at the schedule. I 61 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,839 Speaker 1: think there are seven win team, six to seven win team, 62 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: that's it. I think they play the Jets that maybe 63 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: a win. So that's what you have about a twelve 64 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: team super Bowl bubble, ten that I have a chance 65 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. Additionally, twenty two teams out of 66 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: thirty two could make the playoffs and ten that are garbage, 67 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: with Detroit being probably the most talented of those teams. 68 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: That feels right to me. I don't like to be 69 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: a buzz kill, but when I went back and looked 70 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: at the last four to five years, you generally had 71 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: somewhere between seven and ten really bad teams, bad being 72 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: four games under five hundred or more. I think Seattle 73 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: in Atlanta are next level bad, and then I think Chicago, 74 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: New Orleans, Houston Giants are really close. Some thoughts. Over 75 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: the weekend, I contacted a member of the LA Rams 76 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: Front office regarding Matt Stafford's like tendonitis. And it was 77 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: a story last week and I've said I've had ten danitis. 78 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: It was more tennis. It's annoying as hell, but you 79 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: can still play tennis. And I got ahold of somebody 80 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: inside the Rams organization and they said Stafford had this 81 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: last year and he's got at this camp and the 82 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: way to heal it is rest. So they're trying to 83 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: kind of figure out a way to, you know, just 84 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: have him throw less. Now. The good news for the Rams, 85 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: as they point out, outside of Alan Robinson, everybody returns, 86 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: so everybody, the coach, the receivers, the tight ends. They've 87 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: got a rookie running back from Notre Dame, but by 88 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: and large, he doesn't need a ton of practice time, 89 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: and they have a capable backup, and this team is 90 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: good enough to win some games with a backup. But 91 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: they don't believe. The Rams do not believe Matt Stafford's 92 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: gonna miss games. It's painful and it's annoying for anybody 93 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: that's had some inflammation, some tendonitis, but he's going to play. 94 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: The Other story this weekend around the NFL Champs, the 95 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: Rams ob J According to Ian Rappaport, they're interested, but 96 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: they haven't agreed to terms yet. My feeling, and I 97 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: said this after last year, my feeling, how the Rams 98 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: want to play ob j. He's popular in the room. 99 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup is a volume receiver, and when you get 100 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: that many throws and that many targets and are used 101 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: that often in a seventeen game schedule, you know there's 102 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: a little concern. He's been hurt before in his career. 103 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: Then you have Alan Robinson and now you have the 104 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: number three receiver, Van Jefferson is banged up, and then 105 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: you have to rely on a couple of very very 106 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: young receivers that neither one is really ready to be 107 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: a one, two or three. So I think the play 108 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: with OBJ is keeping around, keep me around as long 109 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: as you have the ability to. Now at the trading deadline, 110 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: somebody's going to be looking for OBJ and they think 111 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: he'll be ready sometime after the trading deadline. But what 112 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,559 Speaker 1: the Rams have been able to do they were did 113 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: this with von Miller. They told him publicly they loved him. 114 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: They sort of rehabbed a little bit of his game. 115 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: He fit perfectly into the system. Then somebody else comes 116 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: and pays the big money. And I think what the 117 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: Rams have really become in the NFL. They've become sort 118 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: of a rehab center where if you Dante Fowler, if 119 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: you are underwhelming, Jalen Ramsey, your viewed is sort of problematic. 120 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: Talented but a bit of a diva. Your ob j Oh, 121 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: that didn't work in Cleveland, Von Miller, your past, your prime, 122 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: You're not really worth the money. I think what the 123 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: Rams have shown is the culture is so strong. They 124 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: can bring those guys in. They helped the team win, 125 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: but they don't necessarily sign him to long term deals, 126 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: and I think they wouldn't say it publicly. I think 127 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: that's what Obj is is that he's had so many 128 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: injuries that they're hoping, you know, we'll sign you, but 129 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: you're going to do a team friendly deal. I mean, 130 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: at this point, I don't think Obj somebody I would 131 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: guarantee two years of money too, certainly not three. But 132 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: I do think he has value on a team or 133 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: Van Jefferson's hurt, Cooper Cup has so many touches and 134 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: the young guys aren't really ready to make an impact 135 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: in the outcome of games. So keep your eye on 136 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: that there's that balance of loving the player publicly, maybe 137 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: needing the player, but not wanting to give him a 138 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: long term contract. And they've already got a few out 139 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: There was Stafford and Cupp and Jalen Ramsey, Bobby Wagner 140 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: now got some pretty good money for a couple of years. 141 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: So keep your eye on that. With Obj, I do 142 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: think they'll keep him past the trading deadline, and with 143 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: Van Jefferson's knee, Cooper Cup's volume, He's not a bad 144 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: guy to have around the room. Obj fits la, he 145 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: fits the city, he fits the culture, and he made 146 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: a huge impact by his second game as a room. 147 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: Go to O'Connor, New York Post columnist my favor he 148 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: is a regular at the volume. Ian O'Connor to me 149 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: as good as sports columnists as the country has. New 150 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: York Post also four time New York Time bestseller. He 151 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: wrote The Captain, the Journey of Derek Jeter, which, by 152 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: the way, I'm watching now, and what I think is 153 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: interesting about it is I heard some of the critics said, well, 154 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: you've got to be a Yankee fan to enjoy it. 155 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: Totally disagree. I've been engaged. It makes me romanticize how 156 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: big baseball was even twelve years ago, you know, fifteen 157 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: years ago. It feels like the NFL these games were 158 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: happening in October, and I'm like, I don't even remember 159 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: the NFL story back then. And it's right now, obviously 160 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: ian in New York between the surging Mets and the Yankees. 161 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: Out here we have the Dodgers and the Padres and 162 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: an arms race. So like you and I live in 163 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: this coastal baseball cloud, right, but it does feel like 164 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: baseball was bigger then in most of the country. I mean, 165 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: when I watch the Captain, I'm like, I can't believe 166 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: how into baseball I was. Yeah, and listen, it's been 167 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: thirteen years since the Yankees have won a championship and 168 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: it feels like thirty years because the history of the franchise, 169 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: the mission statement is to win it every year. Of 170 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: course that's an impossible goal to achieve, but it does 171 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: feel like it's been a long time. Of course, the 172 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: Mets haven't wonted since eighty six, but I think that, Yeah, 173 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: when the Mets and Yankees are going fairly strong at 174 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: the same time, which is a rarity in New York, right, 175 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: it is such a great baseball town. I think New 176 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: York at its core, there might actually be more football 177 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: fans in New York than baseball fans, but it really 178 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: is a baseball town. That's what New York is, and 179 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: I think we're seeing that now and right now, the 180 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: way the Mets are playing and the way the Yankees 181 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: have played the last twenty five games or so, the 182 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: Mets are probably the better team, which is hard to believe. 183 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have said that, certainly five weeks ago. But 184 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: the Mets right now, with the Grom coming back right 185 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: looking incredible if he could stay healthy, which is a 186 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: huge if. I think the Mets are going to be 187 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: a really tough out. Alex Rodriguez throughout most of the 188 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: country is seen as a little um artificial, right, you know, 189 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: it's it's um. You know, the celebrity relationships and you know, 190 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: too good looking to be true. You did you did 191 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: get a championship, You get a World Series championship with him, 192 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: And as I watch, you know, Jeter and a Rod, 193 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: and you know, the relationship is what you would have 194 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: predicted it would have been, whereas it was never close. 195 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: I think it's hard to be close to a Rod 196 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 1: and I know him and I like him, but I 197 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: think I think they're different people. You know, one's got 198 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: a strong family and one always felt like he was 199 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: kind of a hired gun, you know, he would go 200 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: where the commerce was. How how today, I know how 201 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: a rod is viewed to a lot of America. How 202 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: is he viewed in New York today? Because he did 203 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 1: he did help get them a ring that helps them, 204 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:12,599 Speaker 1: but it's nowhere near where or how. Derek Jeter is 205 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 1: perceived by by New Yorkers certainly without question. And I 206 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: think you said a little artificial. I would say probably 207 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: a lot artificial, just based on the fact that much 208 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: of his career is tainted. And you have to look 209 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: at him. He's certainly a great player, he's got historic numbers, 210 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: and he should have been a first ballot Hall of Famer, 211 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: But the fact is that he used eds for I 212 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: would think a significant percentage of his career, if not 213 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: most of it, And the evidence is there that that's 214 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: the case. And so comparing him to Jeter, who is 215 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:52,479 Speaker 1: looked at anyway as the representative of the non peed superstar, 216 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: it's I think most New Yorkers would tell you that 217 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: it's night and day that even though a Rod did 218 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: help the Yankees win a championship, Jeter, of course, helped 219 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,599 Speaker 1: them win five, and there was never any hint of 220 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: ped use in his career certainly, So I just think 221 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: they're on different planets in New York. You said nationally, 222 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: but I think in the city as well. A Rod 223 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: and how he's sort of cleansed his image to some 224 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: degree in terms of as a broadcaster, as a media personality, 225 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: I've never bought into that. The people I know who 226 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: are Yankee fans haven't either, And I sometimes wonder really 227 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: how ESPN and other entities really treat him as someone 228 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: who is embraced nationally and in New York. I don't 229 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: think he is. 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When 268 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: I watched that Michael Jordan documentary, the people that I 269 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: was supposed to not like, I kind of found endearing 270 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: at times, right like like Jordan's bad behavior, I found 271 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: it sort of endearing in a way that he was. 272 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: He was so deeply flawed, but he cared so much. 273 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: And for all the Steinbrenner nonsense, the one thing I 274 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: thought about watching that Ian is that George was so 275 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: intense and hard on everybody, including Jeter for years because 276 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: of his partying, that by the time you got to 277 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: the postseason and you had him ride in your ass 278 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: in Seattle in Game thirty eight, you know, in demanding excellence, 279 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: that it kind of it kind of created a little 280 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: bit of a medal with the team that they had 281 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: this sort of force field around them that George's constant 282 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: almost beyond It's almost comical how much he cared in June, 283 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: how much he cared about the coverage that it kind 284 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,719 Speaker 1: of prepped you for the postseason that you were like, 285 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: We've got this guy breathing down our neck. These these 286 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: playoffs series are nothing. Maybe that's a reach by me, 287 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: and maybe I'm too far removed from it, but I 288 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 1: maybe I'm romanticizing it, but I thought, you know, the 289 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: value was the intensity. This team was so good in 290 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: big spots. Is some of it George? Yes, yeah, And 291 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: I think Jeter would tell you that too. I think 292 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: Jeter enjoyed that part of his ownership. He didn't enjoy 293 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: when he called him out for partying when that was 294 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,239 Speaker 1: a bit of a stretch. Jeter certainly was not a 295 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: party animal, and there was a headline that he hated 296 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: in the Daily News when he said he didn't have 297 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: to change anything. It became party on and so he 298 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: didn't enjoy that, and he had a good time in 299 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: New York. It's amazing that he was able to sort 300 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: of navigate the biggest and loudest marketplace in the country 301 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: as long as he did without really getting involved in 302 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: trouble or any sort of scandal. That the very few 303 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: people pulled that off in New York and beyond at 304 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: his level, but I think he did enjoy. George and 305 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 1: his appetite and hunger for success is willingness to spend 306 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: what it took to put a championship level team on 307 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: the field. And I remember in ninety eight that team 308 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: that's the best team that George Steinbrenner ever had one 309 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: hundred and fourteen games, ended up sweeping San Diego in 310 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: the World Series. So they won one hundred and twenty 311 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: five games in all, but they were one and four 312 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: out of the gate, I remember correctly, And there was 313 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: already talk of Joe Tory being in trouble. It was 314 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: criminal Tory wins in ninety six gets knocked out by 315 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: Cleveland in ninety seven in the playoffs. That was George's 316 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: hometown team, so that was a sin. But they get off. 317 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: I believe they were one in four and ninety eight 318 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: and there was already talk about Tory being in trouble. 319 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: They win one hundred and fourteen games that year and 320 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: when the whole thing. Of course, they wanted again in 321 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: ninety nine and then beat the Mets in the World 322 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: Series in two thousand. But yes, you're right, George deserves 323 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: credit for being part of the fuel behind that dynasty 324 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: without question, and not just because he was willing to 325 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: spend on high end talent, but he did establish a 326 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: culture that hardened the Yankees for the postseason challenges that 327 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: they've faced. And I do think, despite his flaws and mistakes, 328 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: and there were many of those two, that he does 329 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: deserve credit for those four championships in five years. You know, 330 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: I was looking at Aaron Judges having a monster year. 331 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: He's gonna end up He's on pace to hit like 332 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: sixty three jacks and they're tied into John Carlos Stanton 333 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: until twenty twenty eight. And if they gave Judge a deal, 334 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: you know, baseball deal to be an eight year deal, 335 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: and I'm like, it sounds so obvious you have to 336 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: give him a Dellion. Good God, you'd be tied into 337 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: these two very similar players, both with injury histories for 338 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 1: the next like eight years, seven years combined. And I 339 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: just think maybe the analytics say you do that. It 340 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: just doesn't feel nimble. It doesn't. It feels like, you know, 341 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: even with the Yankees payroll. I mean, Judge because of 342 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: this year, is going to get it. I just it's 343 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: I never liked the John Carlos Stanton move. What do 344 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: you make of I mean going forward, they would just 345 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: that would be the team, that would be the you know, 346 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: Garrett Cole and those two bombers, that would kind of 347 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 1: be the construct going forward with the team in your opinion, Well, yeah, 348 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: and listen, the one thing about Stanton Colin is look 349 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: at his postseason numbers. There. Now, it's a shorter sample 350 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: size compared to judge, but they're better than judges. He's 351 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: proven he could play at a high level in the postseason. 352 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: That gets overlooked a lot, but go back and look 353 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: at particularly his last two or three series in October 354 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: the Yankees. He was really good. And yeah, there's injury history, 355 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: and the judge he is a guy play center field, 356 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: he won't. Now that they've added a beater, he's going 357 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: to go from being a sort of a mediocre center 358 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: fielder to a very good right fielder. Again. The one 359 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 1: thing that I found fascinating and I thought was underwritten about, 360 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: an undercovered and under talked about in New York, was 361 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: we had a six foot seven, two hundred and eighty 362 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: two pound guy playing center field for the New York 363 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: Yankees and playing it effectively at just the position of Mantle, 364 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: Demaggio and company. To have an athlete that size handle 365 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: that position, I don't know if enough fans around baseball 366 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: really grasped or celebrated that fact. It was to me 367 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: an amazing thing to see a power forward in the 368 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: NBA playing center field for the Yankees and doing a 369 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: good job and also hitting home runs at a Ruthian pace, 370 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: actually better than a Ruthian pace, And I'd like to 371 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: see him do it. He carries himself the right way 372 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: he is. He should already be the captain of the Yanks. 373 00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: I'm not sure why he isn't, but he is a 374 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: rightful successor to Jeter if he gets his contract. My 375 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: suspicion is they'll name him captain. Cashman is not big 376 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: on the whole captain thing. He's on record saying that 377 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: once Jeter was done, there should be no more captains 378 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,719 Speaker 1: in the Yankee franchise. I don't necessarily agree with that, 379 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: but Judge certainly has earned that right. And but the 380 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: Yankees have a problem with Houston. Okay that Houston. The 381 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: Astros have had their number in the postseason and in 382 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: the regular season this year. So if they right themselves, 383 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: and I think they will, they'll certainly win that division. 384 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: Will they beat the Astros in the ALCS? I think 385 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: most Yankee fans will tell you right now, Colin, No, 386 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: they won't. Yeah, And Cole is not pitching like an ace. 387 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: Stanton hurt and you look at Michael King in the bullpen. 388 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: That injury really affected them. And now Clay Holmes, all 389 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: of a sudden, who looked like the best closer in 390 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: the world outside of Edmund Diaz, he's been struggling. So 391 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: they've got issues now that they have to resolve. But 392 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: they're good enough to do it. But again, they haven't 393 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: done it since two thousand and nine. So the Yankee 394 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: fans I know believe they will lose to Houston in 395 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: the ALCS. I think the Mets are gonna win the 396 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 1: National League. Walker Bueller's probably not going to pitch for 397 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: the Dodgers. They only pay him four million a year, 398 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: as somebody close to the franchise told me that if 399 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: you're only paying him for it's not worth bringing him 400 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: back risking an injury. We've got Kershaw now he's got 401 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 1: back pain as he ages. And I think Scherzer is 402 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: the best big game pitcher probably for my money right now. 403 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: If I got one, I got eight innings from a 404 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: starter in baseball, I would take Max Scherzer, just his passion, 405 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: his gravity. Now I think the Mets in the I 406 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 1: think the Mets are going to end up in the 407 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: World Series. I'm not sure they're going to win it. 408 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: You know, I think I may have said this to 409 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: you last time we talked, is that even though the 410 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: Yankees have a much richer history, I feel like on 411 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: social media and when I lived in the Northeast, there 412 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: were more met fans, and I, for the life of me, 413 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: could never figure it out. Now it could be my 414 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: Twitter account, it could have been who I was around, 415 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: but it is. It is kind of an interesting balance. 416 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: There's it's almost like normal people, maybe maybe the Wall 417 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: Street guys or Yankee fans. It appeals to that favorite 418 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: right that the guy in the lead. I always feel 419 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: like there's a working class Mets fan base out there, 420 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: not just because they're in Queens. What is the split 421 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: in the boroughs Yankees Mets to you, No, that's it's 422 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: Long Island, it's Queens, it's Brooklyn, that's Mets Country, most 423 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: of Manhattan, the Bronx, Westchester, Northern New Jersey. I would 424 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: say more Yankees, of course, but I think that's a 425 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: pretty good read on it. And when you go back 426 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: to the eighties and eighty six, this was really a 427 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: National League Mets town. The Mets can be the team 428 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: in New York. That can happen. I've seen it certainly 429 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: in my lifetime. I would say just the volume of 430 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: championships the Yankees have won since the mid nineties would 431 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: make it a Yankee town. But the city is willing 432 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: to turn over to the Mets. That that can happen. 433 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: I'm a little I'm not as quite as optimistic as 434 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: you are. A column that they'll make they'll reach the 435 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: world series. I think when you put the Mets on 436 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 1: the same field with the Padres this year, it looked 437 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: to me like the Padres were actually the better team. 438 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,719 Speaker 1: And I don't know about the Dodgers. The Dodgers are 439 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: going to have home field advantage in that NLCS if 440 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: it plays out that way. But the Padres got better, 441 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: and before they got better, when they played the Mets, 442 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: it looked to me like San Diego as the superior team. 443 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: So it's going to be a fascinating to watch. I 444 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: think Buck Showalter, former Yankee manager, he could have won 445 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: it all in ninety four. Of course there wasn't a 446 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: World Series in ninety four, but he believes that the Yankees, 447 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: his Yankees, were going to win it all that year. 448 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: They never got a chance to play for it. Ninety five, 449 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: they made the playoffs for the first time in that 450 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: franchise in what fourteen years, lost that classic series to 451 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: Seattle and maybe the best baseball series I've ever seen. 452 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: A lot of people say it sort of brought them 453 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: back to baseball after the ninety four cancelation of the 454 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: World Series. But to see Buck show Walter's Mets face 455 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: his old team, the Yankees in a World Series would 456 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: be something else. I'm just not sure as well the 457 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: Mets are playing that they'll get there, given the teams 458 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: they'd have to get through. Yeah, I think the Padres 459 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: have more high end talent than almost anybody except the 460 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: Dodgers in baseball. I don't know if I trust their pitching, 461 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 1: whereas if I get shars or twice into Grom twice 462 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: in a seven game series, again, I just feel like 463 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: when Sharzer takes them out, you get seven and two thirds. 464 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: Let's pivot to the NFL. I think one of the 465 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: things that's really illustrates the power of the National Football 466 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: League is they have grown exponentially and did it for 467 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: years without a Los Angeles franchise. I mean, literally the 468 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: fifth biggest economy in the world. There was no NFL 469 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: franchise here for you know, years. Now, the two New 470 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: York franchises are virtually unwatchable and the league continues to explode. 471 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: Whereas baseball needs the Yankees or the Dodgers or the Braves, 472 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: and college football needs you know, your your Ohio States, 473 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 1: your Notre Dames, the NFL simply does not. The Packers 474 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: could be the most popular team, and that would be 475 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: just fine. My takeaway on both these franchises is that 476 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: I think Zach Wilson's more talented than Daniel Jones. I 477 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: said he reminded me of Johnny Manziel, little cocky, little 478 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: hero ball, a lot of mistakes, but a really gifted 479 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: arm I just don't I don't see it with Daniel Jones. 480 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: I thought it was a reach. There are a lot 481 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: of reports the Mara family is going to force this 482 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: coaching staff to give give Daniel Jones because they live 483 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: through the Eli Manning years where he struggled for the 484 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: first several years. I think we're in a new time, Ian. 485 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: I think quarterbacks now come out of high school with 486 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: ten thousand snaps, all these camps, the individual coaching, it 487 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: did not exist when Eli Manning was fourteen, and so 488 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: I think you have to be harder on these guys. 489 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: You get two years, not three. If the Giants start, 490 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,479 Speaker 1: and they historically do if they start one in six, 491 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 1: do you think there's a chance that they would go 492 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: out and get a Jimmy Garoppolo, they would make a deal. 493 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: I mean this how many years? God, Ian, it's been 494 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: nine years. They've been bad for eight of them. I mean, 495 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: do you think Tyrod Taylor's not the answer. You're going 496 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: to have the Mets and the Yankees in the playoffs. 497 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: If the Jets start winning the Knicks, Lan Donovan Mitchell, 498 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: I mean, do you want to be buried in New 499 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: York for five months? I mean, honestly, if the Giant's 500 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: gonna have to allow Ze start, do you think they 501 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: could make some moves at that position, in the quarterback position, 502 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: It's possible. I think the more likely scenario, And I 503 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: mentioned this the other day in a column, that Dana 504 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: Jones is two and six and they go to Tyrod Taylor, 505 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: who was a competent NFL starter. He's certainly the best 506 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: backup they've had in a long time. They had Mike 507 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: Glennon last year. He's a major upgrade on Glennon, who 508 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: got Joe Judge fired. So I think Jones actually has 509 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: the ability to be a second tier quarterback in the 510 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: NFL at six to five. Yeah, he looked like a 511 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: reach at the sixth overall pick in twenty nineteen, certainly, 512 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: And you wonder you look at his pedigree and he 513 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: sort of looks like Eli, talks like Eli, acts like Eli, 514 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: but doesn't play like Eli. And so that's been the problem. 515 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: He now, as I wrote, has no excuses. He's got 516 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes's coach as his offensive coordinator, right, he doesn't 517 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: have Jason Garrett and Freddie Kitchens anymore. He's got a 518 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: major upgrade there. He's got some weapons on the outside. 519 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: I think Robinson, the kid they drafted adding him to 520 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: Tony if he's says healthy, Shepherd comes back at some 521 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:07,239 Speaker 1: point healthy. He's got two tackles now drafted in the 522 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: top seven of their respective drafts. Okay, so he's got 523 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: some things to work at healthy, say Quon Barkley. He's 524 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: now taken thousands of snaps in practices and games in 525 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: the NFL's his fourth year. He has no excuse. So 526 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: if he gets out of the gate one and six, 527 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: I think they'll go to Taylor if they haven't made 528 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: a move for Garroppoloch. I think would be tough under 529 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: the cat for them to do, but it's a possibility. 530 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: And I think at this point you're looking at the 531 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: GM and the coach, who are brand new rookies at 532 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: both positions, Shane and Daybole saying Okay, we're gonna start 533 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: over next year with a rookie quarterback. We're going to 534 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: draft one of the top kids in college, and that's 535 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: going to buy us an extra year. We get to 536 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: start our own clocks over again. So I don't know 537 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: if he'd want to go to Garoppolo and maybe just 538 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: wait and draft your quarterback next year, and by the way, 539 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: that buys the GM and the head coach one more year. 540 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: You get to start over. And I think that's the 541 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: more likely scenario. Yeah, no is you know they say that, 542 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: You know, the Giants don't have cap space for Garoppolo. 543 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: But it is remarkable how teams like the Rams just 544 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: figure out a way to do it. You know, this 545 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: thing can be so manipulated by the really smart gms. 546 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: I always use the Chicago Bears as an example. They're 547 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,479 Speaker 1: not terribly well run. They literally couldn't afford to keep 548 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: Khalil Mack, and the Rams signed Bobby Wagner on top 549 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: of Ramsey and Donald and they're paying Golf and they're 550 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: paying Stafford and they're paying O b J. And they're 551 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: pay Cooper Cup and they paid Alan Robinson and literally 552 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: the Bears are like, we can't pay Kalil Mack. And 553 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, you're not paying your quarterback, you don't have 554 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: a second good receiver like some of these teams don't 555 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: know what they're doing. And I think a lot of 556 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: this why I give the Jets about three years to 557 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: get out of this. I think they're just digging themselves 558 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: out of a mess. I do like the last two 559 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: drafts for the Jets. I just don't know if SLA 560 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: is it, but I think the Giant for a bit 561 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: of a mess, and I do think I think I 562 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: think your theory makes it makes a lot of sense. 563 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: One other thing I wanted to talk to you about 564 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: is live golf. So it's it's not been a popular 565 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: stance by me, but my takeaway has been listen because 566 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: the region's toxic. Our government has had a relationship with 567 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia for a long time, despite nine to eleven 568 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: and despite killing a journalist. I said, English Premier League 569 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: teams are owned by the Saudi's. There's been golf tournaments there. 570 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: They're all over sports. So I'm not going to destroy 571 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: golfers for taking the money. I wouldn't but I'm not 572 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: going to destroy him. But I did notice when they 573 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: played a tournament recently out in the East. Phil Michelson 574 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: got heckled, and I thought it was just as much 575 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: as I supported them. I thought, no, this is this 576 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: is why I wouldn't take money. I've been to nine 577 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: to eleven site twice. I just couldn't do it. And 578 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: maybe it's one hundred million. Maybe I think differently when 579 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: you you have a rich history of covering golf, you 580 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: know the sport. Well. Rick Wiley came in my show. 581 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: He was just he said, it's terrible. I don't want 582 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: to hear it. I don't want to hear about oil 583 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: and iPhone from China. Where do you kind of land 584 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: on all of it? It feels gross. But you are 585 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: a leading columnist in the city that was attacked, most 586 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: believe by or led by the Saudi Arabian government. So 587 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: how does it land for you? Yeah, my wife was 588 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: actually the first bombing in ninety three of the World 589 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: Trade Center. She was right across the street in her building. 590 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: Swayed and she thought her building was bombed. I remember 591 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: her calling me and the terrorists in ninety three said 592 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: we're going to come back and knock it down, and 593 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: they did. And so yeah, it's it's a very personal 594 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: thing for me living in the New York City area 595 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: for my entire life. But the PGA Tour, just looking 596 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: at this from a business standpoint, they allowed this to 597 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: happen by not guaranteeing Tie Woods and the stars of 598 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: the game anything at the start of a season. I 599 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: just think Lebron James has basically guaranteed what about forty 600 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: million dollars at the beginning of the season. Tiger Woods 601 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: is guaranteed the same amount of money I am by 602 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: the PJA Tour at the start of the season zero. 603 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: So as long as they were going the non guaranteed 604 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: money route, there was going to be a rival league 605 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: at some point that popped up, and this was not 606 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: brand new. There have been other possibilities over recent years 607 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: that a league, a rival league would would challenge the 608 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: PGA Tour with guaranteed money, and it happened. It just 609 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: so happened that the Saudi money is behind it, and 610 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: it is blood money in a lot of ways. I 611 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: think that the players who did it, Phil Nicholson and 612 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: company deserved to be criticized for doing it, But as 613 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 1: far as banning them from playing, I don't go there, 614 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: And I feel like let the fans decide if these 615 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: guys are playing in the major championships and the fans 616 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: want to You're not going to see booing in golf, 617 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: although I think it should be allowed generally. I don't 618 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: think you're going to see that. But if they want 619 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: to ignore these guys, not cheer their birdies at the 620 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: sixteenth hole and during practice rounds at the Masters, where 621 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: they cheer on players and want them to skip the 622 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: ball across the pond at sixteen, if you want to 623 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: not do that and not encourage to Live guys, and 624 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: there are ways of sort of penalizing them without banning 625 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: them from competition. And I think if you've already earned 626 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: your way into the major championships through criteria already in 627 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: place before Live, you should not be kicked out. I 628 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: think you should be allowed to play the PGA Tour. 629 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: Do I think they're really concerned about abuses in Saudi 630 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: Arabia anymore than the average citizen, I would say no. 631 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: I think they're only concerned about crushing the competition. I 632 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: think they look at Live the way the NFL looked 633 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 1: at the USFL in the eighties. We want to crush 634 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: this potential threat, and they allowed Live to happen. It happened, 635 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: more players are going to make the jump. I'm not 636 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: a hater of it. I wouldn't do it. Like you're right, 637 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: I've never been offered one hundred million dollars, so I 638 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: guess I've never been in their shoes or two hundred 639 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: million dollars, but I'm fairly certain I would say no. 640 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: But I think that the PGA Tour here allowed this 641 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: to happen, and really, at the end of the day, 642 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: what they're most concerned about is making sure a competitive 643 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,479 Speaker 1: threat is silenced. And so I just want sports fans 644 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: who maybe don't follow golf that carefully to understand that 645 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 1: that this isn't about the PGA Tour being morally offended 646 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 1: by the source of the money behind live golf. It's 647 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: about the PGA Tour wanting to make sure a competitive 648 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 1: league does not gain traction here to threaten their own 649 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: business model, which, by the way, as you've seen, they've 650 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: made changes all of a sudden. There's extra tens of 651 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: millions of dollars that they found that are going into purses. 652 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, we're going to add three 653 00:36:55,480 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 1: international note cut guaranteed for the top players tournaments. Where 654 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: was this before? I live golf. This is kind of 655 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: what Phil Nicholson and other stars were talking about. There 656 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: was more money there, and all of a sudden it appears. 657 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: So I don't want to say the PGA tour is 658 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: full of you know what, but in some ways the 659 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: PGA Tour is full of you know what. And yeah, 660 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: that doesn't make me a fan of live golf, but 661 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to see them banned from competition. Let 662 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,399 Speaker 1: the fans aside. Let the fans treat them the way 663 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: they feel they should be treated. So of your four 664 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: New York Times bestsellers, read all of them. One of them, 665 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: of course, is Belichick, and Brady is through that book. 666 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 1: And so we find we discover then Tom was flirting, 667 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: you know, on a yacht with one of the cone 668 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: owners of the Miami Dolphins. And you know, I said 669 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 1: the other day, I said, there's so much outrage on 670 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: the internet. And my take was Michael Jordan, at the 671 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: end of his career, was flirting with Abe Pollen. Jeter 672 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: immediately went into ownership. A story two weeks ago NBA 673 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: going to Vegas and Lebron wants to be one of 674 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: the owners, and I'm like, if you have five hundred 675 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 1: million dollars net worth rich guys, billionaires. One of the 676 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: things they don't have beyond they can buy anything, they 677 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of cool friends. They've got, you know, 678 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: other business people, and they like to hang out with 679 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: Jeter or Jordan or Lebron or Brady. And I can 680 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,280 Speaker 1: see Brady at the end of his career, like Michael 681 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: and Jeter and a lot of these guys, Lebron saying 682 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: I'm not putting my money all in the market. I've 683 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: already owned six homes. You know, It's like, where's the 684 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: safest investment in the world. And what do I know? 685 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: A pro sports franchise, So like I look at it 686 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,240 Speaker 1: and I don't think less of him. But what's interesting 687 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,439 Speaker 1: Ian And you know this, Well, we've got deflate Gate 688 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: with Tom, We've got flirting with you know, an NFL owner, 689 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 1: why he's a Patriot. We have the Bruce Arians thing 690 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 1: where it does appear he ran him out, but he 691 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 1: won't own it. There's a connection to Trump, which makes 692 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: some people on the Is Brady fooling us or do 693 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 1: you think it is? Corey's a good guy and he's 694 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: just so rich. He's a little tone deaf to some 695 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: of this stuff, or has some of this just been 696 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: wonderful pr with tom oh I think what you just 697 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: said about him being a little tone deaf, a rich, 698 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: very successful man who is a little disconnected from reality. 699 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: The rules don't apply to him. And I think he 700 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,720 Speaker 1: saw that too when he ran those workouts with Tampa 701 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 1: Bay when the Union said, don't run these works during 702 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: the pandemic, right, and he just did them anyway, And 703 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:40,320 Speaker 1: I criticized him for that, and I do think I 704 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: put something out on Twitter after I saw what went 705 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: down and what the what the league found in terms 706 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: of the tampering, I thought Tom Brady that was a 707 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: bad look. And I don't really care about the Tampa 708 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: Bay part of it, because that's when he's looking maybe 709 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: to go into retirement into ownership. But when he's playing 710 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,760 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, starting in August of the two thousand 711 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: nine team, he knew he still wanted to play more. 712 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 1: He just didn't want to play it for Belichick anymore. 713 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: And when he's talking to a division rival the entire season, 714 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 1: numerous conversations, detailed conversations, that's what the league found. Man. 715 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 1: He's he is like Jeter the embodiment of the all 716 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: in player, all about winning twenty four to seven, and 717 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 1: during the course of the year, you're the starting quarterback 718 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 1: for one team in the AFC East and you're having 719 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 1: multiple detailed conversations negotiations with another team in the AFC East, 720 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,879 Speaker 1: and nobody seemed to care about that. I pointed that out, 721 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: and most people were like, this isn't a player issue. 722 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,720 Speaker 1: You're not going to punish the player. You always punish 723 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: the recruiting ownership group. I felt like, wow, that was 724 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: really it just it just it just hit me that 725 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: here's a guy that he was all about being all in, 726 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,879 Speaker 1: and I find it hard to believe that he wasn't 727 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 1: distracted at some point point in the twenty nineteen season 728 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 1: as a starting quarterback for the Patriots when he was 729 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: negotiating with another franchise. So should he have been punished 730 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: for that? I sort of think probably, not, not a 731 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: major punishment, but I think for his image as the 732 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: ultimate competitor in the NFL, I thought that was a 733 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,879 Speaker 1: really bad look, and I think most people just gave 734 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: him a pass on it. I was a little surprised 735 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 1: by that. Yeah, I mean, listen, it's it's sort of 736 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 1: like Reagan was so popular. Um, you know, he joked 737 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: about bombing Russia. Popularity has a force field of its own. 738 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean Michael Jordan, who had the first major shoe contract, 739 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: that Nike shield around Michael Jordan. You can't penetrate it. 740 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: He punched teammates, he quit twice. I mean it is 741 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 1: Popularity is a remarkable thing. And um, and I sometimes 742 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: I think, I think, I think Jeter had it, and 743 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: I think I think Brady has it. I mean it's 744 00:41:55,680 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: it's look at this the very last year, the last 745 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,720 Speaker 1: two years he was in New England, everybody had his jersey. 746 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 1: It was still like number one in the league. I mean, 747 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has been in Green Bay for years, but 748 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: his his jersey's twentieth right now, twentieth. Tom's is one, 749 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: and it was one until the end in New England. 750 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean Rodgers is a back to back MVP. 751 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 1: It's twentieth. So I think I look at Tom and 752 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 1: I'm a huge Brady advocate. But there's there's some drips, 753 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: there's a leak in the faucet. There's been some tone 754 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 1: deaf stuff. I didn't even think about the practice, And 755 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,479 Speaker 1: I think Tom's a good guy. But I do think, 756 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 1: I really do think it is heart. He's a good guy. 757 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,800 Speaker 1: I think when you get that richie in and that famous, 758 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: you just you can't relate. And I almost don't blame you. 759 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: You literally don't go to the DMV, you don't go 760 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 1: to an airport, you don't go to the grocery store. 761 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, it's not. It's not a normal life. 762 00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 1: It's not. It's not. I think he's the greatest football 763 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 1: player ever. My dad once said that there would never 764 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:07,359 Speaker 1: be a greater football player than Jim Brown. And as 765 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: an athlete, Tom's not on the same planet with people 766 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 1: like Jim Brown, Lawrence Taylor, Walter Payton, and you think 767 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 1: of some of the greats of the greats, But in 768 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: terms of performance, body of work, and the significance of 769 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 1: that position, he's not just the greatest quarterback ever. I 770 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 1: think he's the greatest football player ever. So I have 771 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: just a tremendous amount of I do think at hard 772 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 1: from doing the book and talking to a lot of 773 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 1: his friends and people who really knew him, I do 774 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 1: think he's a definitely a good person. And I just think, yeah, 775 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: they've been and nobody has a perfect career, and when 776 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 1: you're constantly in the public, you're going to make mistakes 777 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 1: and people are going to know about them. And I 778 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: think he's made a few. Whatever mistakes he made into 779 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:52,360 Speaker 1: flake Gate and negotiating with another franchise while you're playing 780 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: quarterback for the Patriots, I had a problem with that. 781 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 1: I had a problem with him running multiple practices when 782 00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 1: the Union said, don't do it during the pandemic because 783 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: you're putting people at risk and risking maybe the start 784 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,879 Speaker 1: of the season if we have everybody running these practices, 785 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 1: And that was right in the heart of the pandemic. 786 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 1: And so yeah, but I think the bogies on his 787 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:18,479 Speaker 1: scorecard are manageable, and he's got more birdies than everybody else. 788 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: So that's why he should go down as the greatest 789 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,720 Speaker 1: football player who ever lived. Ian O'Connor New York Post. 790 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 1: You can see over his right shoulder, the Captain coach 791 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 1: K Belichick. You see all those books right behind them. 792 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 1: Read them I have. They're fantastic as oh as. It's 793 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: great talking to you. I appreciate it, ma'am. Hey anytime. 794 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:58,400 Speaker 1: Thanks Colin the volume. Make sure to check out the 795 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: drame on Green Show. I brought Draymond Green into the 796 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 1: Volume because one of the more entertaining voices in sports. 797 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 1: Unique perspective understands behind the rope. Also chops up with 798 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 1: guests like Gary Peyton, Zach Levine, Tracy McGrady. 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