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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stefan.

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Speaker 1: Ever told your production of I Heart Radio's House Stuff Works?

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Speaker 1: This episode all about mentors and strong women in role models.

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Speaker 1: Goes out to my mom because her birthday is tomorrow

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Speaker 1: as we record this, but it was it was soon

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Speaker 1: ish right whenever you hear it, And I did want

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Speaker 1: to do a list of things I love about my

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Speaker 1: mom because she's my favorite. Um. The number one thing

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Speaker 1: is she's kind and kindness is one of my most

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Speaker 1: valued traits in anybody. I haven't met her yet, but

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Speaker 1: everything you've told of me, I'm like, she's the most patient,

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Speaker 1: genuinely giving person. Yeah that just sounds like wow. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she's very caring, she's empathetic. She calls me sweetness. She's

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Speaker 1: strong and funny and fun and wants to make sure

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Speaker 1: everyone else is having fun. She's handled a lot of

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Speaker 1: tragedy with grace. She knows what your favorite meal is

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Speaker 1: and we'll make it for you when you're sad or happy,

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Speaker 1: or when she's just thinking of you. She has a

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Speaker 1: southern accent that makes it hard for drive through employees

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Speaker 1: to understand her. Really yep uh. The infamous example is

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Speaker 1: when We were at a Zaxby's and she wanted water,

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Speaker 1: and they thought she was saying order, so they thought

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Speaker 1: she wanted a second order, but she was saying water

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Speaker 1: or water? Is that a cuthern thing? Or is that

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Speaker 1: the more like? I feel like that's southern. And there's

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Speaker 1: a YouTube star who does that too, and he's from Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: apparently in water water and every time he does it

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Speaker 1: they make fun of him and put in translation. It

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Speaker 1: was quite funny. It was one of those like who's

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Speaker 1: on first? Just took forever. Eventually she was like, forget

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Speaker 1: to order. It's fine. Um she does. She also gets

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Speaker 1: a lot of modern things just slightly wrong. Back in

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Speaker 1: my my chemical romance phase. She called them my potions

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Speaker 1: addiction because she was combining fantastic. Actually, that sounds like

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Speaker 1: a Harry Potter cover. Van should be. Wow. She's easy

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Speaker 1: to talk to you. She's a great listener. She used

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Speaker 1: to take the longer way to my gymnastics class because

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Speaker 1: it had a steep hill that I liked going up

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Speaker 1: and down and pretending it was a roller coaster. Um.

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Speaker 1: Every year she hides Easter eggs just for me. You

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Speaker 1: make a lot of money off those, A lot of money.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. I know, I feel like I want to

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Speaker 1: come over and so fun and there's money to be

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Speaker 1: getting all the money. My favorite part about Thanksgiving is

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Speaker 1: clicking with Fairwell. We drink course light out of silver,

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Speaker 1: goblets are fancy. We're super fancy. She's brave. She's packed

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Speaker 1: alone in all kinds of isolated places you can't find online,

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Speaker 1: and she draws maps of those areas that she has

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Speaker 1: shared with co workers in this office who've been curious,

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Speaker 1: and she has a hands drawn maps so of you.

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Speaker 1: It's awesome. Um. She's happy to try new things like

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Speaker 1: moonshine if you want to try. John Snow seemed to

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Speaker 1: be here at a bar she's in even though she

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Speaker 1: doesn't know what. Um. And one of my favorite pictures

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Speaker 1: her what a selfie was and instead of looking at

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Speaker 1: the camera, she kissed me on the cheek and it's

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite pictures we've ever taken. That's adorable. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she volunteers, she helps others. She remembers the little things

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Speaker 1: that you mentioned and then brings them up years later,

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Speaker 1: like remember how your favorite song when you were in

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, I can't believe you remember. That's amazing. Um.

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Speaker 1: She indulges me in my silly quest like going to

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Speaker 1: every store to find a cheap PlayStation four, which we did.

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Speaker 1: It took forever, but we did. She didn't laugh at

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Speaker 1: me when I was nine and cried because I realized

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Speaker 1: I would, in fact, never marry Ryan Gosling. It was

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Speaker 1: She's excited to learn new thing. She'll watch a bad

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Speaker 1: Potter and Marvel all day. She encouraged me to travel.

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Speaker 1: She forgives where I try to forget. She never tries

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Speaker 1: to change me and all my weirdness. She's my cheerleader

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Speaker 1: and she's in my corner and I love her and

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Speaker 1: her actions and in her words, she has made it

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Speaker 1: a whole podcast about her, probably should we can? Oh gosh,

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Speaker 1: I would love to. Don't tempt me. Uh, And my

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Speaker 1: I see it. But yes, this episode is not all

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Speaker 1: because it's her birthday, and also she has been a

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Speaker 1: and we wanted to look into why that's so important.

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Speaker 1: And one of the big things is if you can

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Speaker 1: see it, you can be it. We've said it so

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Speaker 1: can see yourself in doing doing something. Studies have found

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Speaker 1: this impacts men too. If men never see women doing

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Speaker 1: theory suggests that role models are helpful in three ways behavioral, inspirational,

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Speaker 1: women reporting how hard it was to do everything that

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Speaker 1: Having a female role model can help women deal with

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Speaker 1: a lot of us, especially when we do something society

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Speaker 1: really want mentorship and really benefit from it. Reported that

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Speaker 1: needed to be leaders. The same number indicated they'd learned

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Speaker 1: Negative stereotypes about women and stem impacts girls as early

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Speaker 1: had experience with a female role model in that field,

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Speaker 1: boardroom salary negotiations are being spoken over. Men can totally

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Speaker 1: be good mentors for both men and women to However,

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Speaker 1: comes to working closely with women. Mentorship is different from sponsorship.

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Speaker 1: But you know mentor. When we say mentor, a lot

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Speaker 1: So now we wanted to talk about if if you're

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Speaker 1: definitely do better. Overall, m a program is valuable because

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Speaker 1: it normalizes a work culture that promotes learning, growing and

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Speaker 1: non work stuff too, like just that somebody in your life,

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Speaker 1: like my mom wasn't my mentor for work or anything.

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Speaker 1: to choosing a mentor A couple of things, UM, know

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Speaker 1: to be selective, be open to hearing constructive criticism and

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Andrew, Yes, thank you. Andrew. Cameraports that although

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Speaker 1: And so as I am learning this whole world of

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Speaker 1: Yep on the email site says that I'm not email

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Speaker 1: stuff Media mom Stuff at I heart media dot com.

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Speaker 1: Our Twitter is at mom Stuff Podcast, and Instagram is

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Speaker 1: stuff I've Never Told You. Thanks as always to our

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