1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: This is the Chief's official podcast network. Take advantage on 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: the day when you get opportunity in this game, you 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: can play touched out Kansas City the Chiefs all right 4 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: in the thick of a baby. Well, welcome to this 5 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: next edition of Defending the Kingdom, Refitting the Backpack. We're 6 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: getting ready to climb the hill again, the Super Bowl 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: fifty four champion Kansas City Chiefs. We're full fledged into 8 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: the combine now and getting ready for free agency and 9 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: the draft. As we move on, Mitcholters with you, the 10 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: voice of the Chiefs. So along with the man that 11 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: they call the shop Barbershop spider Man, ten year National 12 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: Football League veteran Sean Barber. We're refitting the backpack. My friend, 13 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: I put it on Twitter and people are like, man, 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: they look confused. I had the idea, look confused. I 15 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: told everybody, you gotta apologize my posture. I got a 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: lot of young kids and they asked me, hey, Dad, 17 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: your back all crunched over, bent over. I do is 18 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: that pop up posture to have? And I said no, 19 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: I mean you supposed to put your shoulders back, stand 20 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: up tall, put your head up, be proud of what 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: you're doing. And who you are all those things. Man, 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to get back in the lab with 23 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: you and be able to talk about us refitting that backpack, 24 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: especially this time of year. Right the combine is right 25 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: around the corner. We get to see athletes from the 26 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: college level get back on that field, get back in 27 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: front of the gems, m trying to open eyes, make 28 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: a future for themselves. UM, and some guys from small 29 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: schools like myself, prove a lot of people wrong. That's 30 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: the coolest thing about this league to me, and I 31 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: love it. I love to follow football at every level. 32 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: We see dudes from the M DOUBLEA. We love the league, 33 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: the Division two league, there's there's cats from that league. 34 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: All around the league. You see guys from any high 35 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: schools and UM. But we're in the combine now. Soon 36 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: there will be pro days, Pro days, begat free agency 37 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: shopping season, and then the draft. So the NFL does 38 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: not stop, does not sleep, Nor to the Kansas City Chiefs, 39 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: we're just sharpening the pickaxe for that next climb up 40 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: the mountain. Today we're going to focus on and we're 41 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: doing this over the next nine weeks or so to 42 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: get you up to the draft. Is every position group. 43 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: You can go back if you missed it. It's archived. 44 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: You can get our discussion on the defensive line and 45 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 1: all of the vast discussions there. And we're going to 46 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: talk today about the offensive line. First of all, this 47 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 1: is this is really intriguing. I talked about Jenny Gray 48 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: Watkins in Saint Louis works out. Listen to this. When 49 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: I said that, some other folks were texting me, going, well, 50 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: we work out too. A guy that's a three time 51 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: deployed lieutenant colonel, he goes, well, I work out to 52 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: it too. So what do we got here? We got 53 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: Barbara shopping maybe workout audio here. So it's a Milton 54 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: pop Man. Whenever you bring two guys to have great ideas. Man, 55 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: your knowledge of the game, your knowledge of the chiefs 56 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: about every level of football you talk about. It's not 57 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: just college what I'm talking about every high school in 58 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: this area. Everybody can hear my voice. If you got 59 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: a high school in the mascot, you tell it to us, 60 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: and I guarantee Mitch the Voice knows the mascot to 61 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: go at the school. It's phenomenal. I think he's on 62 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: a two hundred and fifty out of two hundred and 63 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: fifty tab right now in our local radio stations whenever 64 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: they challenge him with the local school. But it's phenomenal 65 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: to see people working out get motivated because we I mean, 66 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, man, we bring the truth. 67 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: I mean, we're definitely we love to see our team, 68 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: our championship team, get better. We want to talk about 69 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: how they are gonna continue to get better in the 70 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: trenches with the offensive line this week. But the one 71 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: thing that we always do, man, we bring it. We 72 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: bring it real, man, Like I use my ten years 73 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: of NFL experience, the things I've seen on the field, 74 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: of things I've seen as a scout, the things I've 75 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: seen as a coaching intern, and I melt all that together. 76 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: I take some of the stuff from from from you, 77 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: some information from you, some leadership from you, and we 78 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: just pound it out. Man. Like you said, we just 79 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: sharpening all those tools so that by the time it's 80 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: time for that season to get rolling. Man, we're going 81 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: one hundred miles an hour. Well, the Chech Kingdom is 82 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: wired to go for a repeat. Everybody is. But let's 83 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: jump into the offensive line because this is an area 84 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: Andy Reid an offensive lineman himself. One of the first 85 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: couple of days I talked to him when he took 86 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: this job seven plus years ago, he started talking about 87 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: the offensive line. Let's take of the group that's here, 88 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: that is under contract, that'll be going into twenty twenty, 89 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: and let's start with the tackles. You look at Eric 90 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: Fisher last year had the injuries, missed basically nine games. 91 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: He started the Oakland game in September, but left after 92 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: a first couple of plays. The Chiefs were ten and 93 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: oh with Eric Fisher, they were five and four without him. 94 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: And if you look at his level of play at 95 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: left tackle, in many ways other than maybe corner quarterback, 96 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: the most difficult position in this league to play, the 97 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: other side Metroll Schwartz, and Schwartz is vastly becoming the 98 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: best right tackle in the National Football League. Just just 99 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: start with those tackles and what they were able to do. 100 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: And then let's throw on Cam Irving, who was the 101 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: swing tackle as team. He played a lot with that 102 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: Fisher injury, and you need a swing tackle in the 103 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: National Foot Bull League. Usually seven offensive linemen or active 104 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: on any given Sunday, and one of those has to 105 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: be a swing tackle. Your thoughts on the tackle position 106 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: of what we know is here and under contract as 107 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: we speak. And I think Eric Fisher's guy who's been 108 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: very unique. Um. You know we picked him number one overall. 109 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: That's always big shoes, big boots to feel in. Um. 110 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: He struck the first couple of years, but then he 111 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: got he got his he got his his weight behind him, 112 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: got his wing behind him. He started to build an anchor. 113 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: We talk about office lineman's having an anchor, being able 114 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: to set that anchor and defend your side of the 115 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: ball to protect the quarterbacks blind side. UM. And over 116 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: the last two years or two seasons, he's had to 117 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: protect the blinds out of one of the most priceless 118 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: commodities in the NFL. The new face of the league 119 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: won Pat Mahomes. Um, and that's that's really big shoes 120 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: of feeling. That's that's a that's a that's bearing the 121 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: weight of the NFL, the world on your shoulders, UM, 122 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: and Fisherman doing it. Um, like you said, he's he 123 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: over overcame a few injuries during the season, missed a 124 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: few quarters, Um, and that allowed camum Urban to step 125 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: in and show that he's he was a great addition 126 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: to the team also. But the one thing that the 127 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: value you mentioned was miss Schwartz. Miss Swartz, I know 128 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: we got him listed as the right tackle and he 129 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: is I think the number one right tackle in the league. 130 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: But he also might be top three tackles overall in 131 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: the league, whether you're talking right, left, middle, up around 132 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: the corner, whatever you're talking about. He has tremendous feet, 133 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: tremendous balance, his understanding of the game as far as 134 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: when the ball is coming out, how long he has 135 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: to hold of protection, and then he's able to run 136 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: block all the different types of run blocks, and then 137 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: we talk about the screen. He's able to do so much, 138 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: so many things at a high level, at an elite level. 139 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: His value to this offensive line is one that's I 140 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: think priceless. When you talk about who this offensive line 141 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: is really built around, I think it begins and ends 142 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: with miss Schwartz, Schwartz Fisher together in the regular season, 143 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: three holes combined all season long at two positions, which 144 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: are premium positions in the National Football League in the interior. 145 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: Now to me, Stephan Nosnewski is a free agent. Chiefs 146 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: picked him up midseason, didn't start him right away. But 147 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: when they put him in the lineup, he never lost 148 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: as a starter. To me, ben Zobras with the twenty 149 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: fifteen Royals, their World championship team, this is what Wiznewski 150 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: was to the Kansas City Chiefs. We know about Lay 151 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: Dubernate's hardive. I think he's only lost thirteen times as 152 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: a starter in his entire career. Austin Ryder at center. 153 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: The guys there now was Newski is a free agent. 154 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: So we know Ldt and Writer under contract. But those 155 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: interior three, Now here's what I'm gonna ask you about 156 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: these guys. And we're gonna get to the croc Pod 157 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: guys here in a second, because the way we're doing 158 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: this is we're looking who's under contract, who's a potential 159 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: free agent coming in or going out. We're looking at 160 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: the croc Pod guys, the developmental guys. But to me, 161 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: what is required in an Andy Reid offense for the 162 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: offensive lineman shop? To me, they must be agile. It's 163 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: the old agilemobile hostile. They've got to move. They have 164 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: to move in this offense. People go his this is 165 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: zone team. Yeah, they got a zone block. Well wait 166 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: a minute, they run power outs. It's probably the best 167 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: thing Glory Duverne tardif does is do the inside guard 168 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: to guard pull or the screen game. I mean, Andy 169 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: Reid could go with Gordon Ramsey and have a food 170 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: network screen network, because Andy Reid comes up with four 171 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: hundred ways to run screens that don't even look like screens. 172 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: The requirements to play offensive line in this system, and 173 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna include intelligence because Andy talks about how smart 174 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: these guys are. But to me, that's a requirement. Otherwise 175 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: I don't think you can survive in this offense. Yeah, 176 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: Andy's offense is one of the things where he downloads 177 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: everything to pat but then it runs downhill. Everybody has 178 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 1: to pick up on what we're doing. All the minute adjustments. 179 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: They run so many different things out of so many 180 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: different formations. They double call and triple calls some of 181 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: the calls to give pet as much flexibility with the 182 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: offense as possible. And as the offensive lineman man, you 183 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: got to be ready to be flexible and be able 184 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: to adjust and be able to go from a running 185 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: um stance. And then in the middle of a play 186 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: they change the call to a passing stand. So now 187 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: you got to go from that same stance without moving, 188 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: without getting the false start, and now you gotta be 189 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: able to retreat and block von Miller off the edge, 190 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: and no one's gonna have any any any any hesitation, 191 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: no one's gonna have any comfort. And knowing that you 192 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: can't get it done, you have to get it done 193 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: because you're protecting one of the most valuable pieces in 194 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: the NFL. So when all that comes together, all that 195 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: pressure comes together, the one thing that matters, like you said, 196 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: the one thing that one of the most valuable traits 197 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: I think with our offensive line is these guys have 198 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: great feet, they have great balance, and they have a 199 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: mind for football. They have to know how to take 200 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: the right angles because linebackers like me, we look for 201 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: linemen to get their shoulders over their feet. They get 202 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: too top heady, they get too much money, their own 203 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: momentum going, and then you can use that momentum against 204 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: them to slap them by the ball and then undercut 205 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: them or go back door on them. Our guys have 206 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: a great angles and I think a lot of that 207 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: has to do with coach Andy heck Coach Andy heck 208 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: be In, a former officsive lineman, he knows about the 209 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: proper footwork, the proper one two step. How you start 210 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: a play is how you finish it. You got to 211 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: start a play on balance with the proper footwork, and 212 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: you end to play in that same demeanor, keeping that 213 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: defensive of all those defensive players from taking free shots 214 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: on your offensive guys, Andy, Heck, I'm glad you brought 215 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: him up to me. He's he's in an interesting study. 216 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: He's very patient, maybe sometimes more patient than I would visit, 217 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: but it's a virtue for him. I'm not very patient, 218 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: but to the fact that he's such a technician and 219 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: he's willing to teach, because to me, teaching and the 220 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: offensive line is such a big deal. The other thing 221 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: is this is interesting. People say, hey, offensive line is 222 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: Patrick mahomes best friend. Honestly, the offensive lineman have all 223 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: told me Patrick Mahomes is our best friend. If I 224 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: got to block you, there's no way I can block 225 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: you for a half second. But if I had to 226 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: block you, you do. I have to block you for 227 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: second or two seconds, and maybe for a second I 228 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 1: can survive two seconds. I got no shot. But with 229 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, the balls out. Yes, yeah, he's with Patrick Mahomes. 230 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: He's one of the offensive lineman's best friend. He shaves 231 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: them from sacks when we talk about that, because we 232 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 1: see so many times in the league their young quarterbacks 233 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: are trying to create something. They stay to play longer 234 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: than necessity. They aren't delivering the ball when they're playing 235 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: foot hits. They aren't delivering the ball on time. Maybe 236 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: the defense has done something to roll the coverage, took 237 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: away their first and second read, and so now they're 238 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: holding the ball. And most times, you know, we blame 239 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: the offensive line for giving up a sack a lot 240 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: more than half the time, no sex are giving up 241 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: because the quarterback refuses to throw the ball away. They're 242 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: not mobile enough to re engage and move the pocket 243 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: to where they know the soft area and the defense is, 244 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: and then they don't have enough vision to keep their 245 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 1: eyes down the field and to be aware of the 246 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: past protection breaking down. Pat has been able to do 247 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: all those things at such a high level level it's 248 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: almost making the rest of the league look bad. But 249 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: as good that he's our quarterback. Offense line does a 250 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 1: great job of knowing Pat, knowing on certain plays where 251 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: he likes to move the pocket to where he might 252 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: escape the pocket and recreate a new pocket. And you 253 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: have to be able to do all that on the 254 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: move without getting too it anxious about going in down 255 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: feeling blocking, because then you get a legal offensive man 256 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 1: down field, or you don't get so heavy on the 257 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: outside should the pad when that defensive tackle defense and 258 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: tries to disengage, you get a holding call. All of 259 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: that plays into the same puzzle, and you got to 260 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: be everybody has been so much on the same page, 261 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: in sync, in the same coordination, and I think that's 262 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: why this offensive been moving at such an efficient level 263 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: because everybody's on the same page. The offensive line is 264 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: one of the most intelligent, nimble, quick athletic and they 265 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: all love to just get grime and play football and 266 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,599 Speaker 1: they love to let let's see that offense go, and 267 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: they take advantage of when that moment minims going. They 268 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: know they want to get that ball in a touchdown. 269 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: But there's such a smart group and they all play together. 270 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: These dudes caught fire too. This offensive low Colleen caught 271 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 1: fire in the start of the playoffs, actually before that, 272 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 1: really after Mexico City and they start to all get healthy, 273 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: they're all working together. Was Newski came in at that 274 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: left guard spot, and I mean they were they were 275 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: on it. I mean they were drilling dudes. And the 276 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 1: other thing about Mahomes is his ability to recognize the 277 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: counter move after the snap happens and that split second 278 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: fighter pilot second. Mahomes has that ability because dudes, then 279 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: they're confused. You show me something pre snap, boom, I 280 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: get the snap. Now you show me something different. I freeze, 281 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: I hold, I wait, it's a sack. And with Mahomes, 282 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 1: his ability to recognize things so quickly and go to 283 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: the second or third option or create a play helps 284 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: the offensive line. Okay, shop to me. The offensive line 285 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: I talk about And when I mentioned croc pot, it's 286 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: not it's not a degrading term. It is to give 287 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: you a word picture of guys in this league. It's 288 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: not always just about the draft or picking up new 289 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: guys in free agency. It's guys that you developed that 290 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: you forget about. And we got a whole list of 291 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: guys on this team. When I mentioned we talked to 292 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: the defensive line last week, Tim Ward, we forget about 293 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: Brilliance Speaks being here because of his knee injury or 294 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: picking up Anthony Lanier from the Chargers. Okay, offensive line 295 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: to me is the position group shop where the crock 296 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: pot is the biggest. Bring guys into your system. Many 297 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: times they're essentially a red shirt. Let me just give 298 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: you some names here. Nick Elligretti kid last year that 299 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: was a draft tea from Illinois, came in on placement protection, 300 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: filled in some Martinez Rankin came in from the trade 301 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: with Carlos Hyde was playing good ball when he had 302 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: to fill in because of injuries. Tore up his knee 303 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: against Tennessee's working on rehab. I'm interested in this guy 304 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: because I'm interested to see how his rehab goes and 305 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: then his summer in Saint Joe Jackson, Barton gregsonat Ryan 306 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: Hunter are other guys in this category. I also tell 307 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: people when they go to Saint Joel, when they go 308 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: to practice, watch the O line d line work. It's 309 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: it's collegiate wrestling. It's the footwork you talked about. It's 310 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: the footwork, hand work, punch, CounterPunch. It looks boring to me, 311 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: is the thing for fans to watch and for the 312 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: offensive line. What about developing guys putting them in the 313 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: crock pot because here again, it's back to Andy Heck's 314 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: patients and his teaching. Well, Andy Hecker has to have 315 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: an eye during training camp and during the off season 316 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: of there are certain things he's looking for. He's looking 317 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: for guys that are trending up. He's looking for guys 318 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: whose footwork is getting better, whose balance is getting better, 319 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: whose technique is getting better. Because as a coach, you 320 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: can only give the guys so many tools, so many 321 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: drills to work on. Eventually the guy has to take 322 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: it and he has to take it to heart, and 323 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: he has to take it so he forces himself to 324 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: progress and grow and get better as a player. There's 325 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: some guys in this league that once they get to 326 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: the league, they feel like they arrived. And those are 327 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: the guys who just um level off. They're getting no better. 328 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: They don't, they don't get better as time goes on. 329 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: And if you want to, you know, if you want 330 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: to continue to get better in this league, you gotta 331 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: take your coaching seriously. You gotta take the drills and 332 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: the techniques they're talking about, and you got to work 333 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: on them beyond just the practice field. Hey, we know 334 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: we got the new CBA coming. They're gonna dial back 335 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: practice again, less hitting, less contact, less one on ones. 336 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: So when are you gonna have time to find out 337 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: if a guy's really able to go play on that field? 338 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: And we're talking about the guys in the crock pot. 339 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: These guys sometimes it takes two seasons of them and 340 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: they don't even get any playing time on the field. 341 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: They just it's only practice tape you have to go off. 342 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: So that's why these OTAs, the organized training activities that 343 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: happen during the offseason are so important with these young 344 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: growing players because they're not only developing their own skills, 345 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: but as far as from coaches, the confident the coaches 346 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: have in them that when somebody goes down, which one 347 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: of these guys are the crock pot? Are? You think 348 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: it's prepared and ready to go into the mix, go 349 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: into the fire, and it's ready to perform at a 350 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: high level. We went through about six or seven starters 351 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: and bet to it that they were part of the 352 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: team from last year, that we hope that they're gonna 353 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: be part of the team next year. And then we 354 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: just named another six or seven that are in the 355 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: crock pot. That's about twelve guys that we're gonna have 356 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: to uh mix up and beat down and find out 357 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: who's going to be the eight that come out of 358 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: that mix. That melee. I mean, it's gonna be a tough, 359 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: tough job to try to get that that final roster prepared. 360 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: And we got a draft coming, so it might be 361 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: even more gas and that coming into the mix. So, 362 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: I mean, when you have so much talent um and 363 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: that and that thing you're talking about, that line of 364 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: scrimmage and that offensive line, that's that's that's what every 365 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: team wants. Every team wants to have great offense and 366 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: defensive linemen because they know if you win the line 367 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, you win most of your ball games. Again, 368 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: a training camp in Saint Joel, when you see the 369 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: wide receivers, backs and quarterbacks, go work on seven on seven, 370 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: which is basically the passing game without the lineman. That 371 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: means the lineman, the old line and D line are 372 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: going to another part of the field. Don't go watch 373 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: seven on seven and you'll watch that most of the time. 374 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: Go watch O line, D line and watch how fascinating 375 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: that is. The other thing Andy Heck does which I 376 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,719 Speaker 1: find fascinating, and he does it even in the summertime. 377 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: In fact, it's tricks some of the media that cover 378 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: because he will do unrehearsed He'll go, hold us is 379 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: down barbershop, you're in left tackle, go because he wants 380 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: a real life drill, and he will do that when 381 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: the guys don't expect it. He'll do it in the 382 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: summer in OTAs, he'll do it in mini camps, he'll 383 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 1: do it at training camp. And all of a sudden, 384 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: now you see at left tackle Cam Irving or Nick Alagretty, Like, 385 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: why is Alagretty a tackle? Well, it's because Andy Heck's 386 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: doing the fire drill, because that happens in real life. Remember, 387 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: only seven offensive linemen on the average are up during 388 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: a game. That means you only have two backups. You 389 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: have five guys at play. Well, this year in Tennessee, 390 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: we had two guys go down within two or three 391 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: snaps and now you're only down to five. But but 392 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: that's when Andy Heck dies. And I think it's fascinating 393 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: to watch it. Yeah, and he's a great job. Is 394 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: that next man up mentality, And you never know on 395 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: game day how that's going to unfold. So you have 396 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: to have guys ready to play two or three positions, 397 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,719 Speaker 1: and it talks about that communication, that trust, having one 398 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: another's back. You know what you have to get done 399 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: as an offensive line, you know how how you have 400 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: to work together to get this front block, to get 401 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: this defense, to give enough time to get this ball off, 402 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: whatever the play takes. And as an offensive unit, even 403 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: if it's not your best position, you know, you gotta 404 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: go in there and get it done. You know you gotta. 405 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: I gotta, you know, make sure I stay with you 406 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: for three or four steps before I go find help 407 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: other places. Then I gotta make sure I do that. 408 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: I gotta do it the same way the guy in 409 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 1: front of me was doing it, and the offensive line man. 410 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: We talk about balance, We talk about eye discipline, We 411 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: talk about hand placement. We talk about having a great anchor, 412 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: We talk about having great feet. I mean, it's almost 413 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: like it's so many things. It's such a laundry list 414 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: of attributes. A lineman has to have to be great, 415 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: and I think that's why it's only a few really 416 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: good ones in the league. We talk about great offensive lineman, 417 00:19:58,480 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: you have a lot of a lot of good guys. 418 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: So you have a lot of guys at above average. 419 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: When you talk about great offensive lineman, you probably is 420 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: only about five or six something that could play any 421 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: position across the line and get it done. Yeah, and 422 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: with our offense, you just got to be able to 423 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: handle everything because of the comprehensive. How comprehensive this offense 424 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: is all right, looking at the list of free agents, 425 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: and again this will change dramatically. But I'm just gonna 426 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: listen to guys. I'm not even gonna ask you your thoughts. 427 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna throw them out there. But these are 428 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: guys that are free agents. Anthony Costanzo the Colts, very underrated. 429 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: Jack Conklin of the Titans Tennessee has had a good 430 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: offensive line for years. Joe Tuney of New England a guard. 431 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: To me, he's very interesting, good player left tackle. Jason 432 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: Peters of Philly well known. Brian Balaga oft injured, played 433 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: a lot with Green Bay. Graham Glasgow the Lions at guard. 434 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: Connor McGovern Denver's a free agent. Missouri dude has started 435 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: the last couple of years for the Broncos. Austin blythe 436 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: of the Rams. Okay, I'm only going to ask you 437 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: this about that in that we all know people that 438 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,239 Speaker 1: follow the NFL very closely know that every team has 439 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: a pie graph, and in that piagraph you have the 440 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: salary cap. Yeah, how much of that pie graph do 441 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: I invest in the offensive line? To think about all 442 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: the discussion we've had in the first twenty one minutes 443 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: of this podcast, but teams sometimes can overspend in this area. 444 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: You have to find a I mean, this is a 445 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: science and this is worth to me. And you mentioned 446 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: Brett Beach, and Brett Beach and his staff have done 447 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: a great job at the offensive line. But you also 448 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: have to be careful to have too much your pie 449 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: graph in this area because you're gonna have to spend 450 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: that in other areas. Because we all know what's coming 451 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: with Mahomes. Yeah, nothing what we do is well and 452 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: especially if we'd learn off what happened in the history, right, 453 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: history tells us that we're gonna need extra offensive lineman. 454 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: You can't just go, hey, I'm gonna go fifteen million 455 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: per person across the offensive line, because when those guys 456 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: miss games, that means the guy who's filling in is 457 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: gonna be a minimum salary guy. And so when you 458 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: talk about that offensive line, it's not just five deep 459 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: you gotta tell how much money you're gonna spend eight 460 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: or nine people deep to make sure that the guy's 461 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: backing up your starters actually a quality guys that can 462 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: go in and play and survive a game, survive a 463 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: couple of games until your guy gets ready again going back. 464 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: You know, we look at right now. We got Fisher 465 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: on the cap for twenty and twenty at about fifteen 466 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: point two. We got Swarts at ten point eight, and 467 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: then we got the Doctor LDT at nine million. I 468 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: mean that that's a lot of money wrapped up in 469 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: three guys, and not to mention, you know, the center 470 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: rider is three point eight. And then we got to 471 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: think about what we're gonna do with guard I think, 472 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: I mean, the smart move is to bring back if 473 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: we can bring back both of our guards, Wiley and 474 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: and if we can bring both of those back on 475 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: the whiskey, you know age is getting up there, but 476 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: we should be able to get both of those guys, 477 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: resign them for a bargain price because they know they're 478 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: coming back to a championship team. They're gonna get postseason money, 479 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: they're gonna have the accolades, the offense, they're already familiar with, 480 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: so it's not like relearning the wheel and that to 481 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: an offensive linement, I think it means a lot more 482 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: than most things. Trying to integrate yourself to a whole 483 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: new team, a whole new system, and then learning a 484 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: whole new set of calls sometimes becomes mentally challenging, and 485 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't even allow you to show how good of 486 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: a player you are on the field because you're thinking 487 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: too much. Once you learn the offense, you always become 488 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: comfortable with it, and now you just got to go 489 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: to training camp sometime. Getting back into a system you're 490 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: familiar with, it allows you to unleash some of that 491 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: hidden potential and you actually move up the charts and 492 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: become something a lot greater than everybody thought you would be. 493 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: And I think that's the case where Schwartz, camp Irvan, 494 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: guys that came from the Browns came to this team 495 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: as kind of afterthoughts. People didn't think they were going 496 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: to survive in the league, and then they flourish in 497 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: this offense. They flourish under the two lists of Andy Reid, 498 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes and coach Andy Heck And it wasn't nothing different. 499 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: There was the same ball of clay to work with. 500 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: But here in Kansas City because of the two LIGs, 501 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: because of the time and the patience, And you gotta 502 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: give a little bit credit to coach Eric be Enemy too. 503 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: The offensive staff work together with these guys. They looked 504 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: at their strengths and made sure they were able to 505 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: work on their strength and weaknesses so they could all 506 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: be competent and and and and and complimentary ball players. 507 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 1: So I think that from a from a salary camp standpoint, 508 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: I mean, we know Pat's gonna bring the house. We 509 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: know we're gonna have to pay that quarterback position, But 510 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: besides that, you have to invest some real equity in 511 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: your offensive line to protect that Ferrari in the garage. 512 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Absolutely, and Wizz. I'm not 513 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: trying to get Wiz a new contract here, but to me, 514 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: there is I always respected him when he was with 515 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: other teams, Raiders, Eagles, but that dude is a cocking gun. 516 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: Last year he was cacking for this offensive line, and 517 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: talk about these younger guys. He's almost like an assistant 518 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: for Randy heck As he's a technique and then off 519 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: the field he's awesome. Okay, now the college guys, I'm 520 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: just gonna throw out names here. We don't have to 521 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: talk about him, but I do want to UM ask 522 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: you en Mass about this group. But I'm just gonna 523 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: go through him here. Some of these are premium guys. 524 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: You'll go in the first stround because you mentioned what 525 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 1: we pay fish. But that's a premium position. We all 526 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: know that. Go read the book The Blindsider watched the movie. 527 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: UM Joshua Jones of Houston, University of Houston, Andrew Thomas Georgia, 528 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,719 Speaker 1: probably the top rated dude tackled Jedrick Willis Alabama, Tristan 529 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: Worf's Iowa. Interesting guy, Austin Jackson USC backed in out 530 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: of Louisville. Then there's the guards UM Solomon Kinley, Georgia, 531 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: Lemieux out of Oregon, A Logan Stenberger Kentucky, Darryl Williams 532 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: Mississippi State. And then there's a guard local kid Idenogy 533 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: A Chemidenogy of Kansas who was a four year starter. 534 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: I think at forty eighth straight starts for KU as 535 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: a guard. Because here's here's what M I ask you about. 536 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: M and Tyler Bedez or Biddy from Wisconsin. I like him. 537 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: I mean, he's cushion bury lshoe. But the center position, 538 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: because we have seen rookie centers and we add Austin 539 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: Ryder there, we know that. But there are some potential 540 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: key guard center combos. Remember your two guys aren't aren't 541 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: starting in an NFL game. Gotta be a guard center 542 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: combo or a tackle tackle tackle guard combo. There are 543 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: some centers in this draft that I think are very interesting, 544 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: and the kid at Kus interesting. But what about in 545 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: the draft finding a center guard combo. Let's we know 546 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: swing tackle. I want to ask you about the center 547 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: guard combo and how valuable they can be. I think 548 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a commodity to be able to get 549 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: that center guard combo late in late rounds in the draft, because, 550 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: like you said, the premium positions are the tackles. Everybody's 551 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: gonna go after those top tackles. Six six sixty seven 552 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: mammoth guys. They three hundred sixty pounds long arms. You 553 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: can envision them being the next Lane Johnson's, the next 554 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: Mitchell Schwartz, next Fishers. But as the draft goes and 555 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: all these other players draft wards come down, all those 556 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: guards and centers get pushed down the board and then 557 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: you have like a second round guy still available in 558 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: the fourth, You got a third round guy still available 559 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: in the fifth. And when it's time pick, you start 560 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: thinking about depth on that offensive line. You're able to 561 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: get some guys that are really quality football players that 562 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: can be studs, they can be pluggers. They can come 563 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: in and and uh add depth to that offensive line, 564 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 1: that attitude, and then you got to take him out 565 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: back and do what Beach and those guys do. Put 566 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: the ball in the hand. See can they can they 567 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: do the shotgun snaps? Can they snap with that somebody 568 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: under center? Can they make the calls? Do they understand 569 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: the lingo in the language to be able to communicate protection? Um, 570 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: like the centers are asked to do. Can they actually 571 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: you know, have that leadership to control the line. And 572 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: you know we talked the one thing that you know, 573 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: rather he showed me that, Um he was he played 574 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: beyond his years. I mean he's playing a position like 575 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: a ten year veteran. He's commanding offensive guys around. He 576 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: ain't taking no jump from nobody, didn't matter who you 577 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 1: line up in front of him. Um, he hasn't seen 578 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: a dog a defensive tackle that he don't like to 579 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: get after. And that's the kind of gritting attitude I 580 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: think coach Andy Heck Andy Reid, you know he said 581 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: Andy Ree's an ex offensive old offensive lineman. Well, he 582 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: he knows what it's about being in those trenches. He 583 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: knows what kind of war and nuttrition and battle you 584 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: have to what kind of attitude you have to have 585 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: to survive in the trenches. And so they have such 586 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: a great feel of the mentality and the makeup the 587 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: moxie those guys have to have not to only survive, 588 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: but to thrive in the trenches. And I think that's 589 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: what we're looking We're looking for guys not to just 590 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: be able to make the roster. We're looking for the 591 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: next Pro Bowl guys and the guys that are ready 592 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 1: to take that take it to the next level. And 593 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: if you keep integrating those guys at the back end 594 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: of your roster, man, I'm telling you that offensive line, 595 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: that line of scrimmage you can dominate that you'll consistently 596 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: be in the playoffs punching tickets to the Super Bowl. 597 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: A couple of things, as we closed, when you played 598 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: with the Cheese and with the Eagles, but in the Redskins. 599 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: But let's just take the Chiefs. Bran Waters in the 600 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: Ring of Honor was not even drafted. The dude was 601 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: a tight end at North Texas. Okay, Will Shields was 602 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: a third round draft pick. He's in the Pro Football 603 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. This isn't something to your point you 604 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: can take in the first round. Two and one final 605 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: comment from you. The center position, what I've learned about it. Okay, 606 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: think about the WASP play. All right, We're gonna run 607 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: Jet three twenty three wasp. Okay, I've got to get 608 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: on the center. I gotta get the play call. I 609 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: gotta get the snap count. I gotta have a perfect 610 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: snap to Patrick Mahomes at five yards, perfect where he 611 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: doesn't even think about it, right, not even it's just 612 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: like brushing his teeth. He didn't think about it. Then 613 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: I've got to where's the middle linebacker? Pat? Will you 614 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: see him pointing out or he'll point a call like 615 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: fifty nine fifty nine? Okay, that's the mic. We're counting 616 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: off the mic, and our protections are such counting off 617 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: that beacon. If you will so as a center, then 618 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a line call, I might make an adjustment. 619 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: This all happens within fifteen seconds, So I got to 620 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: think the play call. I'm the center, play call, the 621 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: snap count. I hear Pat barking out a signal, maybe 622 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: an audible, and then I'm telling you you're my left guard. 623 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm going blue spider or blue spider or blue spot er, 624 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: which means we're going to change even the protection within 625 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: the protection that is the center position in the NFL. 626 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: To me gives me chills talking about it. It is 627 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: fascinating barbershop because if you get a do that, and 628 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: you talk about writers nastiness, you get to do that 629 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: commands that position, Oh my goodness, it's like gold going 630 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: up the mountain. And you think about how much we 631 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: rely on Pat to make so many decisions and everything. 632 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: If you get a center that can take a little 633 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: bit off of his platter, just a little bit, he 634 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: can just trust with the protection and the shifts and 635 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: the motions that kind of thing, then that just allows 636 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: his brain to continue to focus down the field on 637 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: the coverage, and that allows him to focus on whether 638 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: whether he likes to play and doesn't like to play. 639 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: If we can do that, if we can get that 640 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: type of commonality of a mind frame between the center 641 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: and in the quarterback position. Then we thought we've seen 642 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: the offense work in twenty eighteen at a high level. 643 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: We thought two nineteen championship level, that's just the tip 644 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: of iceberg. It's you know, we talking about iceberg. It's 645 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: what's beneath the water you need to worry about. That's 646 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: what the kN city the offense is. This is an Iceberg. 647 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: We've seen a lot, we've seen the Championship, we've seen 648 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: MVP during the Super Bowl. But but there's so much 649 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: more to this all defense, and if you get the 650 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: right guys at the office of the line, they can 651 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: do some things. Uh they can change plays and change 652 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: protections and allow Pat to just worry about what's going 653 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: on on the back end of the defense and he 654 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: doesn't even have to worry about any pressure up front 655 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: or a late blissing linebacker or a defensive stunt move 656 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: being being made, and he can just keep his eyes, 657 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: stay in the pocket, keep his feet, and then it's 658 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: deliver the ball. It's it's it's unlimited to what the 659 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: potential of this offense could be, and it might start 660 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: with this two thousand and twenty draft class. You talked 661 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: about some great guys. I'm really so interested. Like the 662 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: guy he's had from Louisville, the six seven guy Isaiah 663 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: Wilson from Georgia. He's a sophomore, but he's coming out. 664 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: He's another six seven guy. I mean, then the black ass, 665 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: the guy from Wisconsin. I mean, I think I think 666 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: that he actually has a chance of actually being around 667 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: in that third or fourth round. And then we got 668 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: to make an investment pick. That's that's a quality pick. 669 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: I think you get a guy with second second round, 670 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: first round quality skill level. But you're able to get 671 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: him because everybody else is going for the skill players. 672 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: Everybody else going of a quarterback, wide receiver, UM, defensive backs, linebackers, 673 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: edge rushers, UM. Those linemen as they slide down the board, Man, 674 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: you can really do some some some some some future 675 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: investing in your team by picking a great offensive lineman 676 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: late in the draft. I think it's beyond it. I 677 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: think it's I'm trying to think now, but I checked 678 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: with I've got people I know at Wisconsin. Team captain Um, 679 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: super smart, super tough, fits the mold. He's a guy 680 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: that even if you didn't start him right away. It 681 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,479 Speaker 1: could be a croc put guy and maybe second year. Um, okay, 682 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: sometimes omega leads to alpha. And I'm gonna ask you 683 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: a question as we close, and it's really a us 684 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: or no question. You've played ball since bittie ball, right, 685 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: You've played since when you start playing football? Actually I 686 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: played little league, but I didn't start playing organized ball 687 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: in to eleventh grade. But when were you interested in it? 688 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: I'm playing out a boy on the farm. Imagine nd 689 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: Dawson When I'm in eight years old. I lived up 690 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: in the coulda sacon. We had actually a circle. We 691 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: called it a circle men eight other guys in the neighborhood. 692 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: We met in a circle five times a week with 693 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: one football who threw it up, Um, throw it up 694 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: and run. Whoever caught the ball had to try to score, 695 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: where the other seven guys try to tackle him. We 696 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: did that every other day. Um, all my youth. I 697 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: love that. I love it. But I'm asking this question 698 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: as we close. Have you ever seen a good football 699 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: team with a bad offensive line. There's no such thing 700 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: that The definition of a good football team starts part 701 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: of the definition of a football team. A great football 702 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: team is a great offensive line, There is synonymous. There 703 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: is no such thing as a football team you've ever 704 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: seen going anywhere in the league that didn't start with 705 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: their guys up front. If you can't keep your quarterback 706 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: up right, if you can't create gaps and running lanes 707 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: for your your running back to go through, then it's 708 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: it's it's a non factor. Look at the offensive lines 709 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: that ended up in Super Bowl last year ours and 710 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: saying France, they did they were they were equally Um, 711 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: they were equally yoked. You know. Um, they could protect 712 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: the quarterback, they could open great Russian lanes. Um, they 713 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: kept their quarterbacks upright. Um. And the teams that are 714 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: drafting first, second, and third in this draft or teams, 715 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: they couldn't do that. And unfortunately, those teams will probably 716 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: still pass on a lot of great offensive linement because 717 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,720 Speaker 1: they're still trying to get these wire receivers and running 718 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 1: backs and edge rushers. They're getting these marquee positions because 719 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: they think that's going to change the nature of their 720 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: roster when realistically they should be drafting at the line 721 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 1: of scrimmage. Offensive line, defensive line. That's where it starts. 722 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: Every game started loving this game when I was seven 723 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: and eight. Didn't played at your level, but I played 724 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: as long as I could. I've covered Division One for 725 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: forty some years, and this only could be my twenty 726 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: seventh year in the NFL. I'm going to affirm I 727 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 1: have yet to see a good football team with a 728 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: bad offensive line. As we refit the backpack and sharpen 729 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: the pickaxe for the climb back up the mountain, fans 730 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,919 Speaker 1: of the Chiefs Kingdom never ever, ever, ever, ever ever 731 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: underestimate the impact and power of an offensive line. Barbershop, 732 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 1: We'll do it again. We're gonna go back to it. 733 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: We're going to the linebacker next week. We're gonna get 734 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: right in your wheelhouse as we start that climb back 735 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,919 Speaker 1: up the mountain. Mitch Holters with your voice to the Chief. 736 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: Sean Barber aka Barber Shop, aka Shop aka the Spider Man. 737 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: This is defending the Kingdom. Get ready to refit the backpack, 738 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 1: Chiefs Kingdom. We're gonna do this again. Thanks for listening 739 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: to the Chief's official podcast network. To touch down, We'll 740 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,919 Speaker 1: look it down and the celebration begins in their head