1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: And That's what you Really missed with Jenna. 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: And Kevin An iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: Welcome to and That's what You're Really miss podcast. It's 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: TV Musical Day wo Kevin. Today we're going to recap 5 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: Nashville the Pilot. 6 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: Yes, very excited. Had you ever seen Nashville before? 7 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: Yes? So I watched like the first two and a 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: half seasons. 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Jenna, I mean if you can't tell, Jenna 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 2: and I have not discussed this at all. Sometimes you 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: will talk like a little bit. Yeah, we have not talked. 12 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: What did you watch this? No, I had never seen 13 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: it before. Oh. 14 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: I also didn't realize it started so early into like 15 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: Glee's run. Yes, get me halfway through. 16 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, this was an earlier musical TV show and 17 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: it was very exciting, very exciting. You like country music, 18 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: I do, and I didn't, and I'm a convert. I 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: did not like it until probably twenty fourteen. So I 20 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: don't know why I watched Nashville because I did not 21 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: like country music. But I actually didn't care about the 22 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: music in Nashville. It wasn't the music at all. It 23 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: was the show. 24 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 2: Well, and I think it was the way they used 25 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 2: the music, so we'll get into this. 26 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah. 27 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: Pilot of Nashville aired October tenth, twoenty twelve. 28 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: Wild the number one song was One More Night by 29 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: Maroon five. 30 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: That eumbyone movie was taken too, never saw it? 31 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: Where was My Daughter? And the was Glee news this 32 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: week because we were up and running and we were 33 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: deep in we were in season four, so this was 34 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: the breakup was season four episode four that just aired 35 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: on October fourth, That was on a mini hiatus and 36 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: we would return on November eighth with the role You 37 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 1: Were Born to play the Grease musical. 38 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: What a time to be watching Network TV. There are 39 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: two music and on October thirteenth, some of the cast 40 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: went to the premiere of American Horror Story Asylum at Paramount. 41 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 2: It was me, Leah Corey, Chris Nyaccord, Melissa Jacob, Becca 42 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 2: Alex Dean, Lauren Dot and Jane Jenna saidna, thank you, 43 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: I said. 44 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,839 Speaker 1: No, thank you. I also think I was working. Yeah, 45 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: I remember you guys getting ready on the lot. 46 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 2: Yes, we did, right yep. Okay, fully, that's why I'm 47 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 2: wearing a raincoat because I have nothing nothing to wear. 48 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: Okay. That usually was like the thing We're like, what 49 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: are we wearing at this point it was early. It 50 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: was really I loved American horror story by the. 51 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: Way, Oh yeah you, I mean you would try to 52 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 2: force me to watch it, but horror things were not my. 53 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: I mean season one is just perfect. And Connie Britton 54 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: was in that. Yes, damn, she is just a legend, which. 55 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: Is how I think you probably got into Nashville. 56 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, part of it. Part of it. I don't know 57 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: what it was, and I don't know who it was, 58 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: but I really was. I don't know how somebody convinced 59 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: me in my mind that I was going to watch 60 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: Nashville because like looking back at Jenna in that time, Yeah, 61 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: I don't think I ever would have watched it, but 62 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: it got me. It took its hooks and like sunk 63 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: them in. I was ready, Yeah, okay, we'll talk, we'll talk. 64 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: I mean, so diving into the show. The team behind 65 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: this show is wild, like, I mean wild, wild, wild So. 66 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: The creator of the show as an Oscar winner from 67 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: film on Louise Kylie Corey Wow and her husband TiVo Burnette, 68 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: was the music supervisor of the first season like Royalty Here, 69 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: and it was produced by R. J. Cutler. He's an 70 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: incredible director and has directed some incredible music documentaries and 71 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: it's wild to me that like he directed this. I 72 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: can't leave that those three between those three. 73 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: Callie Corey is the creator and executive producer of the 74 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: show and also developed it with showrunner d Johnson, who 75 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: was a writer and producer also who worked on Er 76 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: and The Good Wife. Maybe that's what it was like. 77 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: It was there's like from the creator of like because 78 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: I just you know, I watched a lot of TV, 79 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: so I mean those are like. 80 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: Ris wonderful TV gets you hooked. They know how to 81 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: do a story, compelling story really effectively. And then you 82 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: have Connie Britton. 83 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: I mean that's how you get her like like he 84 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: was involved, truly. 85 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 2: It's so good. 86 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: It's so good. The pilot was a hit with the critics, 87 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: by the way, the special praise for Corey's writing and 88 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: the casting obviously with Britain and Penetier at the home 89 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: like they were both great and this like emerging rivalry 90 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: that they're going to be pitted against each other but 91 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: also have to be next like with each other. It's great. 92 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: So ABC canceled the show in twenty sixteen after four seasons. 93 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: But then CMT and this was like that world where 94 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: other networks were picking up shows that got him. 95 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 2: Just started in like that was not even normal practice. 96 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: No, no, no, not at all. I think this was 97 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: one of the big ones that kind of had that recognition, 98 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: and then it picked it up for CMT picked it 99 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: up for five and six. It aired for twenty one 100 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty four episodes. 101 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: Kevin, Yeah, it was very similar to us. The show generally, 102 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: for those of you who have not seen it, the 103 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: show is about we're launched into like the Nashville country 104 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: music scene, where there's a legend played by Connie Britton 105 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 2: rena At who's clearly has a reputation, has been in 106 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: the game for like twenty something years. And then you 107 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: have a younger is played by Hayden pin Tier. It 108 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: was the up and comer, and obviously like Rain and 109 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: Stars fading, Hayden pin Tier's characters stars rising, and then 110 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 2: you have all this sort of incestuous family drama. 111 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: We love that. 112 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it feels a bit soapy, a bit yeah, 113 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: Dallas the yes, exactly. 114 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: It's giving me a little bit of like Yellowstone vibes. 115 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: It's giving me a little bit of like, you know, 116 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: pre Yellowstone, Like it's giving me a little bit of 117 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,559 Speaker 1: Friday Night Lights dish like it, you know, bringing Connie 118 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,559 Speaker 1: written back there. Like I loved the just the tone, 119 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: the tone, it was very like just slightly elevated two 120 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: soap level but back down to drama like it's a hybrid, right, 121 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: and then you had music on top of it. 122 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 2: I think musical television shows, as we've learned, have a 123 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: lot working against them in general, and why so many 124 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: have not really worked. It's very difficult, very difficult. And 125 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: like with Glee, Ryan and Brad and Ian managed to 126 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: really thread the needle on what they were going for. 127 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: Right. 128 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: It's high quality. How they're using the music is really 129 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: smart and clever. The storylines are really meaningful. But also 130 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: there's like a sense of self effacing comedy, right yep. 131 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: And so that's why the show worked Nashville. And like, 132 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: I think the reason why I didn't watch it is because, 133 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: like I can't do a musical. I don't really like country, 134 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: I don't really like soapy stuff. Yeah, Like I just 135 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: it wasn't my thing. And I think things about the 136 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: music business as we know, I am really sensitive to 137 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: like hokey. 138 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, it's kind of like when I I'm having 139 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: like a a moment with acting, right, and I feel 140 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: like or even back in the day after Glee or 141 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: like you know, around that time where you're like do 142 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: I want to act anymore? Is this my thing? At 143 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: least for me? And like watching like Call my Agent, 144 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: watching extras all those shows, it felt too close to 145 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: home where I was like, have no interest in watching 146 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: this on my time off, And I feel like for 147 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: you because this is so music driven and it's kind 148 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: of like pulling back the curtain on the music industry also, 149 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: which I'm not even sure you really knew about all 150 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: that much, but like I think just like the music 151 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: of it, all the country music, like you said, it 152 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: just wasn't like it's not what you were watching. 153 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. I did feel like I am watching 154 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: something on my day off that I don't want to 155 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: be watching. Yeah, And I did, like I grew up 156 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 2: in the music business, like I knew it so well 157 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: that like like watching A Star is Born. I love 158 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: that movie, and then every time it gets to sort 159 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: of like yeah, the music business side of it, I'm like, 160 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: oh god, they're just not getting it right. 161 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so that said yeah for the first time 162 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: watching this show. Yeah, overall, because I think this is 163 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: where we're headed overall. What were your thoughts on the show? 164 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: What were your thoughts on how they approached the music 165 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: industry side of things, the label, the tour canceling, all 166 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: of that, and like, you know, the kind of washed 167 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: up artist like artistry. How did you take all of 168 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: this and what did you think of the show? 169 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: Oh? 170 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 2: No, I went through a number of things. So it's 171 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 2: like the first third I'm like, oh, interesting, I'm in 172 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 2: I like it. Okay, middle third I'm like it's a 173 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: little soapy, and then it gets to the end and 174 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I need to know what happens. I 175 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 2: was like, I don't know if I can. I don't 176 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: know if I'm into this, And I'm like, I'm very 177 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: much into it. 178 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what why I think. I watched the pilot, 179 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: and so many shows, i'll watch the pilot and be like, eah, 180 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: maybe I'll watch the second one. Nah, I'm done this one. 181 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: I was like I know that I watched this pilot 182 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: and was like, I must watch this next episode. You 183 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: know what. 184 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 2: It's confident TV making. Yes, and I think with music, 185 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 2: when you have people who are doing a musical or 186 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 2: a musical movie or it's theater or whatever, you can 187 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: feel when people are not confident. 188 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: In what they're doing. 189 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, And I feel like because you have 190 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 2: this teene behind it, gosh, it just feels like we 191 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: know what we're doing. We know this music is good 192 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 2: coming now, the storyline is good, yeah, trust us. And 193 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: I could feel that through it. And I think where 194 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: the magic in this is is because it's country music. 195 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 2: I think when you get into doing like hokey pop songs, 196 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 2: like totally, I'll just use the stars born yep, when 197 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 2: like Ali's character is making like pop music and it 198 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 2: feels like fake pop music, right. 199 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's. 200 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 2: The music in this show is used. I mean so 201 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 2: in the pilot at least. Yes, I don't imagine them 202 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: breaking into song walking down a hallway at any point 203 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: exactly that it's all used organically. It's all used when 204 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: they're actually meant to be performing and they're good songs, 205 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: and you're not even getting full songs ever, really, you're 206 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: you're getting portions of songs and they're not necessarily telling 207 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 2: a story, but they're driving the character they're driving the character. 208 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 2: The act of the performance itself is the story. It's 209 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 2: not about the lyrics of the song necessarily, yet, it's 210 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: about what the music means to those characters or the 211 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: device in the music business. And as someone who is 212 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 2: not familiar with Nashville or the country music scene, yeah, 213 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: what I appreciated was like this insular nature of it 214 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: all where you have this big music producer who's also 215 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 2: hosting a radio show, who also is getting honored at 216 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 2: the Grand ole Opry, and how it's all tied together 217 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: felt yes, not. It didn't feel heavy handed, like I 218 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 2: bought it. That is sort of how the music business works. 219 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: You also have really incredible actors in Connie and Hayden. 220 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: I thought we're sensational. Yes, and wow, I bought this 221 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: was the first time I bought the music business side 222 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 2: of this. 223 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: Wow, that's huge. 224 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: I wonder what Kevin's gonna think about because it didn't 225 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: make me uncomfortable. I think a lot of those times 226 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 2: when they're just like they'll say some like crazy thing. 227 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 4: Like well yeah, yeah, yeah, and you're like that's not 228 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,239 Speaker 4: how it works, not and like, no, this was reasonable. 229 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 2: She's in like the twenty something year of her career, 230 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: they like, give you the business. 231 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: Side of things. It's like you're not selling, you haven't been, like, 232 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: let's tag you on this is how it's the business 233 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: is changing. I thought that was interesting of really tapping 234 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: into like how it was changing in that time, and 235 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: I appreciated that, and I was curious if you thought 236 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: that that was like true to like the times that 237 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: we were going through with me totally. 238 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: I feel like it was even when I was like 239 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: right before Glee, like we would talk about with record executives, 240 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 2: the changing evolving nature of music business constantly and nobody 241 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 2: knew what was going to happen. And I also think 242 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 2: like how they would even talk about songs, because I 243 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 2: do think it it works differently depending on what type 244 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 2: of music you're doing, and the fact that, like Connie 245 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 2: Britten's character clearly is not necessarily a songwriter, and so 246 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 2: the A and R guy is like, well, I brought 247 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 2: you these songs that you didn't record, right, Okay, So 248 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 2: we're listening to demos, We're like Hayden's character is recording 249 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: these songs and clearly writes and says like I want 250 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 2: to write to. 251 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: You, yeah, exactly. So exactly. Wow. 252 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously there's allowances like we're just you know, it's 253 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 2: a TV show. We're expected to believe that Home Boys 254 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: the best band leader in the biz. 255 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: And but overall, like there was enough that you bought 256 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: into that you're like, fine, I'll give them a pass 257 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: right on some of the things that were kind of 258 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: elevator and not really. 259 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: Super Yeah, because I think that has like when you 260 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 2: get behind we get into the weeds a bit about 261 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: the creative team behind this. 262 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 1: They know. 263 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: How it works. Yeah, yeah, and so like when you're 264 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 2: talking about you know, I've never seen that in something 265 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 2: like oh, you know, the capacity for the arena is 266 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: like sixteen thousand seats. You used to sell that and 267 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 2: no problem, you sold twenty four hundred seats. You have 268 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: to cut down production costs. 269 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 270 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: They're not glamorous things to talk about, right, and they 271 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 2: don't necessarily take a lot of time to talk about. 272 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: But it gives you the sense of reality and sort 273 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: of a show that is a bit soapy. 274 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 275 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, the stuff with the mayoral candidate and all that, like, yeah, 276 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 2: that feels like the But I'm. 277 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: Like, I think because it's the family, like they're including 278 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: the father of or the why the husband and then 279 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: the father who's funding this and trying to kind of 280 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: control him right through politics of it all. Like I 281 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: think the family element for me and watching a TV 282 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: show is always bread and butter, brothers and sisters, parenthood. 283 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: Like any six feet under you bring me a family 284 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: that goes through drama, and I am you know, it's 285 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: a hit so if done well. So I think there's 286 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: like the element of like the drama side of the 287 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: writing and the including the characters in this like web 288 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: that is already disembedded because family is so complicated, and 289 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: then on top of it, like country music is such 290 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: a beloved genre. I mean, like the audience. You're drawing 291 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: a huge, a massive audience into this show and then 292 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: giving them this like really good drama as well. And 293 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting that Cary Corey, she had 294 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: a Kelly Corey she had said the show matters to me. 295 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: The reason the show is important to me is that 296 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: music is to the United States as wine is to France. 297 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: We've defined ourselves through music really since the beginning of 298 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: our country. The world of the musician has gotten dismantled 299 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: in the last twenty years due to new realities and technology, 300 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: and Nashville is the last Bastian Bastion. Nashville is the Alamo. 301 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: The show shows the human side of musicians and the 302 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: real life struggles that we have, and I think it's 303 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: a positive thing. And then she also had said, like 304 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: one of the fun things about doing the show is 305 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: like listening to songs. So behind the scenes, the music team, 306 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: they're going through songs and songs and demos and everything 307 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: and figuring out which character came up with it. So 308 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: they're taking these demos and attaching them to characters that 309 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: would have written or take these on. So we're having 310 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: these imaginary writing sessions with your character and you know 311 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: what every line means for them. So like there it 312 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: takes on a whole other, like kind of meta reality, 313 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: she was saying. And I thought that was so interesting 314 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: in the creation of the show and then also bringing 315 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: it alive through the story for through these characters. I 316 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: thought it was just really effective. And I totally bought 317 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: into the music, even though I don't really know how 318 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: music industry works, Like I know enough that I was like, Oh, 319 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: I think this, I could buy into this because it's 320 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: it's the business side. 321 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: It feels like they're given enough of it that like, oh, 322 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 2: this sounds like it's based. 323 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: Off of real things. Yeah, And the performances were excellent. 324 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: The music is actually very good. I enjoyed it because 325 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: there's like the mix of like some of the characters 326 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: that are a little bit more folky country, which I like, 327 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,479 Speaker 1: and then there's characters that are like the true country, 328 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: like Connie Britain. So you have these different iterations of 329 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: the country genre as well. I'm like, great, give me this, 330 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: like every everybody. So all these musicians are so different, 331 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: so we're like also celebrating musicians as well. So there 332 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: was something very I think it was like close enough 333 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: to my to my realm of things, but it was 334 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: far enough away where I was like, oh, I want 335 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: to watch this, I want to attached to this, I 336 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: want to know what happens, But I don't feel so 337 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: deeply invested in this industry that I'm like, oh, I 338 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: like watching Call my Agent, you know. 339 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I like, for me, there's there's so much 340 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 2: like you were saying, if you have good family drama, 341 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,719 Speaker 2: like you're hooked. And for me, it wasn't until like 342 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 2: that last scene where again, like you hear a third 343 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 2: different type of country. Sam our producer and I were 344 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: talking and it sounds like almost like a Civil Wars song, 345 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: the Great Great Group, and like, and it's so different 346 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 2: from any country music we've heard yet in that episode exactly. 347 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 2: And then for me, I'm like, Okay, how is this 348 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 2: going to impact the storyline of these two country stars 349 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 2: because you're battling over music, you're battling over relevancy, and 350 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,719 Speaker 2: you're doing it through the music. 351 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah. 352 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 2: And it's not about again telling story through the song, 353 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:14,239 Speaker 2: it's the device. The music itself is the device. And like, 354 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 2: to me, that was really exciting what you were saying 355 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 2: about how the creator of the show and the writers 356 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 2: actually listen to real demos and songs that had already 357 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 2: been written to use for the characters in the show. 358 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: And that's what it feels like. It doesn't feel like 359 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 2: we are writing fake country songs, right, it feels like 360 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 2: these are real country songs. 361 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: And I think they were right. They were. 362 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 2: You could have had Faith Hills songs in here. You 363 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 2: could have had any number of people. And then you're 364 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 2: also getting a little bit of a history, right that 365 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 2: one little scene with Connie Britton at the radio station 366 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 2: and she's talking like they played Tammy Wynette and then 367 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: she's talking about one of her favorite songs. It's like 368 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: it's sprinkled in there with like real education about real 369 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: country legends and all of that just creates a really 370 00:19:59,640 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: full pick. 371 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: Sure. Yeah, well having the grand Ole Opry like also 372 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: like all these real pieces of country history. And then 373 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 1: like Nashville. I'm sure they shot in Nashville quite a bit, 374 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: and like the city itself is a personality and so 375 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: like I love Nashville. So I just I thought, like 376 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: the whole all these like pieces like we're just so 377 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: synergistic that like it lined up to this like really 378 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: good crafted pilot, musical pilot, like very good, clean, clear 379 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: like succynct. Like the rivalries were there, the character developments there, 380 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 1: the music was there. I understood exactly who everyone was. 381 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: It wasn't overwhelming, like I I'm into it. 382 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: Think about when it got to the end, I was like, 383 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 2: that was only like forty two minutes. 384 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: A lot happened so much a lot, and. 385 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 2: That is such a skill, like I e. Like the 386 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: economics of writing of being able to we know who 387 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: everybody is and there's a lot. It's not just love triangle. 388 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 2: It's like love triangles, family drama, music drama. We went 389 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: to a record label, We had a walk on a 390 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 2: bridge where we learned about a history. Then that guy's 391 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 2: also involved now with Hayden's character. And then you have 392 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 2: two mayoral candidates and a former mayor who's also your dad. Like, yes, 393 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 2: so much that happens. And like you said, we start 394 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 2: with seeing the Grand Ole Opry, Oh my gosh, and 395 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 2: the scene like what better way you have to use 396 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: the Grand Ole Opry the Mecca and I mean you've 397 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: gotta yeah, but you also the Bluebird Cafe. As someone 398 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: who's never been to Nashville, I even know the Bluebird 399 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 2: Cafe is an iconic venue and it's one of the 400 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 2: main set pieces in this show. 401 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: Yep, it's yeah, it's going to be utilized a lot. 402 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 1: I'm curious if you found yourself rooting for Reina or 403 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: Juliette in this or were you rooting for anybody. 404 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 2: Again talking about like the economics of writing. Obviously, Team 405 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 2: Na right, obviously, Like she even has that little diva 406 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 2: moment and she called you know. 407 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: When she's what does she. 408 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 2: Call her ears? And then she apologizes to everyone I'm like, 409 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 2: that's a class act. She has a moment, she owns 410 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: up to it and keeps it moving. 411 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: Also because it's like through the eyes of Raina like 412 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: a lot of this in the family, Like yes, we 413 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: see Juliette's like human side with her mom and like. 414 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 3: That hole, which I like, really effective, reallyciated it. 415 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: Had to be done, it had She just comes off 416 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: as like a young diva music girl with no personality. 417 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 2: Hayden's really good. Hayden is Hayden's excellent, really really good, excellent, 418 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 2: And I think in my head she's always like the 419 00:22:55,720 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 2: cheerleader and heroes so unfair. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And oh 420 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 2: my gosh, I watching her play this character, I had 421 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 2: so many flashbacks two people I sort of grew up with, 422 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: like oh like music, yes, And I was like, I 423 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 2: don't this is good, Like she's really good. 424 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. I loved their first interaction so much when she's 425 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: like my mom. It was they both were just giving it, 426 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, like I'm here 427 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: for this. I am We're going to get so much 428 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: of this, I think, And it's just it really gives 429 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,479 Speaker 1: you a place to go. And we hate dumb characters. 430 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 3: Jenna, and these are not they are immediately. 431 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 2: How it is written, like you have to have these 432 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: characters have been around too long. You don't get successful 433 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 2: by being dumb and following upwards like yep, yep and 434 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 2: her immediately being. 435 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: Like what was that? Like, I really appreciate those. It's 436 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: a little Roxy and Velma. 437 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Well, ultimately I do want them to do that. 438 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 2: I do want them to like we're stronger together, we 439 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: need help, and but I know it's gonna get messy 440 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 2: and I and I don't trust Randa's husband, as far 441 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 2: as I can throw him, I don't trust him. 442 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 5: Interesting, I don't trust your dad. Well he's obviously the villain, 443 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 5: but I do trust the husband. I don't know if 444 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 5: maybe Interesting, I just we'll see. Connie Britton is so good. 445 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: There was this There was this one moment, you know, 446 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 2: when they're having which having a conversation with Deacon on 447 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: the bridge, and they're not even alluding to, like they're 448 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 2: pretty explicitly talking about that they used to have like 449 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 2: a love affair and he's still in love with her 450 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 2: right and she never I'm assuming it might happen at 451 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 2: some point because it's a good soap but she never 452 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: crosses the line in terms of but she lets him 453 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 2: say his peace, but she doesn't really give him anything. 454 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 2: And then she even at the end, she doesn't start 455 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 2: like place a hand on him or. 456 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: Like pat his chest. 457 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: She like uses the back of her hand like very 458 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 2: quickly to sort of like it's such just for me, 459 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: like growing up being around like southern women, even when 460 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 2: I met Kord's mom, like we'll give you like a 461 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 2: little punch in the shoulder where like you know, it's 462 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,479 Speaker 2: not necessarily like overly affectionate. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, and 463 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: like she doesn't ever cross the line right. 464 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: Well, and also like her saying like I wasn't gonna 465 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: use them because I thought they were all about me, 466 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: yeah you know, and he's like, well they are just 467 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: even like the looks she gives, like the close up 468 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: at the end when before when she steps on the 469 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: stage with him, and then the look of the close 470 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: up of like her on the stage, and like the 471 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: look of the ability to convey a full message in 472 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: that moment in just a five three second smile, to 473 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: not smile is not as you as you'd think, And 474 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: she just. 475 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 2: Did it right before twice when the producer calls her 476 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 2: yes to play that song yep, and I wanted to. 477 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 2: I was desperate for her reaction, and she doesn't give 478 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 2: you too much the thing that would normally be done 479 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 2: in a musical, it would be like her being like, 480 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: you know, like I'm so excited, like what is this? 481 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 2: We have to and they don't do it. They don't 482 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 2: fall into that trap. And that's just the magic of 483 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 2: icon Connie Britain, because I think if you have somebody 484 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 2: and why brothers and sisters were so good, if you 485 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 2: had people who were leaning too far into the soapiness 486 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 2: of it, the drama of it, and it doesn't work. 487 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 2: And I think there's a couple a couple people in 488 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 2: the show where you see that are leaning a little 489 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 2: too heavy into it. But then you have like the 490 00:26:53,920 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 2: Hayden and Connie who are keeping it really grounded. It's 491 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 2: good because like it's the South, it's a little rough, 492 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 2: it's a little messy, but there also is this glamor. 493 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: Yes, and the country glamour, and that's. 494 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 2: The incestuousness of it, and like country music that as 495 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 2: we know with Beyonce, they are very protective of who's 496 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 2: in and who's out. It is a club and I 497 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 2: buy that. Yeah, it is this incestuous. 498 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: Yes, I meant I I love it. I love it. 499 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: I was very very sold. Once again rewatching this, I 500 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: was like, yes, I know why I watched the show. Yeah, yeah, 501 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: you reminded. And it still holds up, Like I I 502 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: think it's very good. 503 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 2: Still, I do feel like, so this is like the 504 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: first show we've watched where there's no Glee crossover. 505 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: None, And also like, okay, so if we were talking 506 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: about like Zoe's Extraordinary, where there is Gley crossover of course, 507 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: but also like the vibe of the show, the tone 508 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: of the show like Zoe's, I'm like, yeah, we would 509 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: have a flash mob on New York Street, Like yeah 510 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: we would. This was like so different. This actually was 511 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: like you bring in, you put Friday night lights with music, 512 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: you know, country music, Like that's the show you're getting. 513 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: It's not it's not Glee. It's not bright, it's not poppy, 514 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: it's not you know, it is quintessential soap drama, southern 515 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: you know. And I I I think that's why I 516 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: think I liked it so much. 517 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 2: Was like so far removed. 518 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't anything like ours, but it's successful. Right, 519 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: it was like successful in what it did. 520 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 2: And I just think country music, the storytelling aspect of 521 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: country music itself is also like you know, us saying 522 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 2: like Connie Britton's performance is also humble, like at the 523 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 2: at the root of it, like you were saying, you 524 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 2: have some folksy stuff, you have more poppy stuff, but 525 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 2: it's always about like storytelling first. Yeah, And so I 526 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 2: think because the music is not some heightened, overproduced thing 527 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 2: that all feels Yeah, I guess it all just feels 528 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 2: like humble. I don't know how else to better say that. Yeah, 529 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 2: where I buy it and it then it makes me 530 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 2: think like how had this not happened sooner? 531 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: The show? 532 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, like how did something like this not happen sooner? 533 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 2: And I remember when the show came out being like, 534 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 2: well we had a successful musical, so everyone's trying to 535 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 2: make TV musicals and it kept getting renewed and it 536 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 2: kept doing well. 537 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: Was like, damn, this show must be It is true, though, 538 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: like you know, there were a lot more musical TV 539 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: shows trying to do things after Leate, Right, it's in 540 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: the geist. It's what happens. There's NASA success, people want 541 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: that too, but this is the type of people who 542 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: should be doing it though, Yes, exactly, it's different. It's original, 543 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: it's it's done well, it's well thought out, well thought 544 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: through the messages there why she's doing the show like, 545 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: it all comes back to the intent of the show 546 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,479 Speaker 1: versus like making something just to make something right. And 547 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: I think country music is such a brilliant way in 548 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: like it's its own personality in the music industry. It's 549 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: its own thing, right Like, it's very insulart, it's very 550 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: you know, clickie like you said, and incestuous, and so 551 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: I just I like how they wove in all those 552 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: you know, the political things and the family things like 553 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,959 Speaker 1: I actually found it more dynamic and interesting, even if 554 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: it was a little campion, a little drama, like to 555 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: bring in those things to make it feel less musical 556 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: driven and more about like, let's just have a drama. 557 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 2: Yes, And I think you're right. I think striking that 558 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 2: balance was the key to this because it didn't feel 559 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 2: it never felt like a musical right right in the 560 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 2: tradition sense. 561 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: Well, this was successful. This was a successful watch. I 562 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: wasn't sure how you would take to it, but I'm 563 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: really I'm really grateful and happy that you liked it 564 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: so much. 565 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: I I I might have to watch the second episode. 566 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: I know, Well, let me know if you do. I 567 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: like to talk about some of these performances though, Like 568 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: I know they're snippets, and I know that there are songs, 569 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: but I want to know, like your favorite ones, and 570 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: I want to know like what you thought, So like, 571 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: let's just talk through them a little bit. We can 572 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: get a whole light grade since it's not really like 573 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: full performances, Like we can just kind of go through them. 574 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: It's my life, Reina. It's quintessential country music, right, this 575 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: is what this. 576 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: Sort of feels like someone who was famous in the 577 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: nineties or early two thousands. Yeah, but and I buy it, 578 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 2: like it feels like if and I don't. I don't 579 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 2: mean this in a drugatory way. I love Faith Hill. 580 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 2: I was in a Faith Hill music video as a 581 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 2: are you oh my God, Kevin Wow, But like that's 582 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 2: what it feels like to me. M and I love 583 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 2: seeing the grandell Opry I and I thought her performance 584 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 2: was right, like there's not a lot of frills. She's 585 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 2: just up on that stage in this my only, my 586 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 2: only critique, and I'm sure it will change as it 587 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 2: gets going, but like she felt a little uncomfortable, like 588 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 2: I wanted her to feel a little more like. 589 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: A like a diva that she is, or like the music. 590 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 2: There's like a familiarity of being on stage and feeling 591 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 2: home on stage, where like the act of holding a mic, 592 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 2: even in the sound check when she does that and. 593 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 3: She's like it all felt a little like she's not 594 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 3: super it's not everything. 595 00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: M Yeah, but okay, so we give it a I'll 596 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: give it a B plus B plus great love like mine. 597 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: Juliette Hayden definitely was comfortable up there. Yeah. 598 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 2: I feel like the same way about her two songs 599 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 2: in the recording studio again flashbacks. I know, I won't 600 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 2: tell you that's all the same girl. I'm thinking, oh, 601 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 2: that's funny, that's funny. It's somebody we know, sister, oh God, Kevin, 602 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 2: And like literally that experience had happened to me. I 603 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 2: was like, damn, Like this is because they were like 604 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 2: growing up at the recording studio, Like there were sometimes 605 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 2: you know, back when I thought I was straight, or 606 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 2: like I might be recording and then somebody else would 607 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 2: be there and like she may go into the recording 608 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: booth and like anyway, wow, I don't need to all 609 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 2: that so it's real. 610 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: But it was. 611 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 2: It was real again, like the little things about like 612 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 2: oh my god, even the thing where she's recording and 613 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 2: they turned down the music and they just solo her, 614 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 2: Oh yes and they're talking. 615 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yoh my biggest spirit because being in the 616 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:20,959 Speaker 3: recording viek god. 617 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 2: Yes, are you kidding me? The amount of times I 618 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 2: imagine the people on the other side of the glass 619 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 2: having that conversation about me. 620 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I'm like yeah, I'm like, oh god. 621 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: I think people were like, well, that's what audigiens for, 622 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 1: thank you so much. 623 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 2: Well I'm like, I'm like, that's not necessarily she's not 624 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 2: off pitch. She just didn't like so like that was 625 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 2: sort of like the part that like, you know, I'm like, Okay, 626 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 2: well that's not really accurate, but who cares. 627 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: Fine, that's funny. 628 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 2: But both of the both of her numbers. 629 00:34:52,440 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: Like A yeah back home for Deacon, she's very he's very, 630 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:02,760 Speaker 1: very sexy. 631 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 2: I like the Bluebird. 632 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: I like these. You'll see a lot of those. You'll 633 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 1: see a lot of this. So yes, I give an 634 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: a already gone raina. 635 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 2: Sorry I jumped ahead to this a little bit, but 636 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 2: I'll give that like an as yeah. 637 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean again half grades because they're not really 638 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: full perform they're like snippets. But I did appreciate the 639 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: I like Connie's voice. 640 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 2: I do too. 641 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: I like a lot very like unpolished about it and 642 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: not in a bad way, but like in a good way, 643 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: like like a country way like about it. Yeah, I 644 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: like it. It works. 645 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 2: I like the rehearsal setup too, Like I bought all 646 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 2: of that, Like I really. 647 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 1: A lot of people in the music industry like really 648 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: giving their two sense in this. 649 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 2: Its like that was a real setup, like when we 650 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 2: rehears for tour, Like that's how it looks like that exactly. 651 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: That's why I'm like, okay, we they did their research. 652 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 2: Yes, and like Connie felt comfortable, like as the character 653 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 2: felt comfortable in that space, and I was like, yes, 654 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 2: like this is somebody who has done this time and 655 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 2: time again. 656 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,439 Speaker 1: Yes, she's a professional. If I didn't know better. 657 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 2: Scarlett and Gunner, Oh it's the one. 658 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: It's the one. I was singing it by the end 659 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: of the day. It was it's a breakout moment. 660 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 4: This must have done well right, Like this song did 661 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 4: very well. Also, like Scarlet, I love Scarlet. She becomes 662 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:39,720 Speaker 4: one of my favorites. 663 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 2: I think she's a really special actor, like a special character. 664 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 2: There's something about her. She's like the anti Juliette. 665 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 1: Yes, it's all very pure, and she's she will be 666 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: a breakout character as well. The whole thing is she is. 667 00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: Her and Gunner are adorable together. And her voice is 668 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: so different and that's what I like about like this 669 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: kind of country music. It's and I'm curious to hear 670 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: I could I don't remember what he's like. Oh, I 671 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 1: have an idea, so I'm like, what are they do? 672 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 2: We just turn this into a Nashville Oh. 673 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: This is why I wanted to recap this overdy because 674 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: I remember loving this show so much. And the drama 675 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: is there. 676 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:27,439 Speaker 2: Well, I have theories like I wonder if they try 677 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 2: to take her songs and give them to Connie Britton's character, 678 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 2: but then there's drama, but because she's related, and then 679 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 2: eventually Connie Britton finds success again through her music, and 680 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 2: then Scarlett feels like a little I want to these 681 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 2: are my songs. I want to have a career. And 682 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 2: then Connie's like, I crush you like bug you know where, 683 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 2: Like because Connie's character seems nice now, but like if 684 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 2: she finds success again and rides high from that, who 685 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 2: is she going to be. 686 00:37:58,680 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 1: Met? 687 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 2: That may be so off bait, but that's what like 688 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 2: they have. 689 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 3: I don't remember, so I don't my seeds of all 690 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 3: this drumah really because I. 691 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 2: Am like you, Jenna, I am a sucker for some 692 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 2: good family drama. 693 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: That's what I'm telling you. Everybody is, that's why they 694 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: do so well. 695 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 2: I'm also still pissed she didn't show up with the 696 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 2: other guy's mayoral launch. I liked the idea, but it 697 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 2: is better drama. 698 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 1: No, of course it is. Of course it is. It 699 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 1: has to be. But I was sad too because he 700 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: seemed like a good guy. 701 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I appreciated. I was like, oh, this is 702 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 2: going to be fun. She's gonna be against her husband. 703 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. No. 704 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 2: No, she showed up because well because she. 705 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,280 Speaker 1: Her dad revealed that bank rolled her first album after 706 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,760 Speaker 1: she went into that studio. I did into that label 707 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: and said I made you. Oh. 708 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, she's still like daddy's girl. I 709 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 2: got to show up and like thank him for doing 710 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 2: the singing and ask him to do. 711 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, still tied and then 712 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: she feels tied. 713 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 2: So which does happened again? Do you know how many 714 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 2: stars that we love today whose families bankrolled their first album. 715 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: It's a new form of nepotism. 716 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 2: But it's like, you know, I don't I feel I 717 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 2: feel like that's fine. Like if your family has the 718 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 2: means to do that, and you have the talent and ability. 719 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: To carry it, to carry it, then somebody believe in you. 720 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 2: Because there's a lot more people whose families do that 721 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 2: and you never hear of them because they're not good. 722 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: Well that's what I'm saying. It can't just be that 723 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: somebody fund your album and then you're automatically successful, Like 724 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: you know, the people will. 725 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 2: Really help the people talent about it up. 726 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:55,720 Speaker 1: The people speak, yes, let's do some tardy ticks. Cringe womans. 727 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,439 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was cringe, but it made 728 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 2: me uncomfortable with her recording that song and then like 729 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 2: in the booths and then looking. 730 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: At yeah yeah, it's like too much fast forward. Yeah, 731 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: but you know, like it happens. It happens the best 732 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: song if I find matter? 733 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, can I also sorry? I want to bring up 734 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 2: how the music was recorded. This was clearly recorded studio, properly, yes, 735 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 2: like even if people didn't have great voices, it was 736 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 2: still proper. Like you don't have to have a great 737 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 2: voice to again, you know, sing some of these songs. 738 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 2: It's not about that, right, but it's done at a 739 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 2: high level. 740 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they were produced. Yeah, well, well performance 741 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: by a prop. I liked the perfume bottles. 742 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 2: I really enjoyed that. She's like, I don't smell anything 743 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:54,919 Speaker 2: like welder water water. 744 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 1: Oh am, I supposed to judge if I can't. 745 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 2: The fear in her assistant's eyes at all times, it's good. 746 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: It was good. I agree. 747 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 2: I think I'll say I'll say. 748 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: Raina is in ears that she throws. I'm having a 749 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: deeper moment. Those are expensive. Oh my god, you're using 750 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: them right now? Yeah. Somebody else was using them for 751 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: their podcasts, and I was like, why have I tried 752 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: in ears? 753 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 2: I don't know what are Oh you know, I didn't 754 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 2: like these. I don't think I have them. 755 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: Oh, Kevin, Okay, best line, Okay, I there's one rain 756 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: Of line, and there's one Juliette line that I really 757 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: liked and you may agree with me. Raina's is, well, 758 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,439 Speaker 1: you can kiss my decision as it's walking out the door. 759 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And Juliette's was my mom was one of 760 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: your biggest fans. She said, she listened to you while 761 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: I was still in her belly. And then Raina says, 762 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: We'll bless your little heart. That is a charming story. Yeah, 763 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,879 Speaker 1: I think I second though. Yeah it was. Oh how 764 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: oh the two of them, very ten of them. 765 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 2: The casting of this show was brilliant, Like I just 766 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 2: want to see them spar not. Everybody can hang with 767 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:15,720 Speaker 2: mss Connie Britton Hayden. 768 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: No, I know it was. They were at the same 769 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: level and performance m VP. Oh, Connie Britton, Connie Britt 770 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 1: doubt but Hayden's Hayden's up there, No, no, yeah, I'm 771 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 1: honorable mention Jenna. Am I gonna start watching the show? 772 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 1: I think you should. I think I am. You're gonna 773 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 1: have to have stuff to do while you're resting your voice, 774 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: so you may as well. Oh god, you're right. I've 775 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,240 Speaker 1: been doing in the past two days. I just watched 776 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 1: so much TV. 777 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't watched TV in months. 778 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: I know, I've been watching a lot of TV now too. 779 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 2: A lot of things coming out. Yes, have you watched 780 00:42:58,520 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 2: Next Gen's Chef? 781 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 4: No, but everybody's talking about it really Yeah, Oh it's great, Jenny, 782 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 4: you should watch it. 783 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,800 Speaker 2: You love a cooking You got me into cooking shows. 784 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: I do love a cooking show. I do love a cooking. 785 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 2: It's it's really really well done. Okay, I think you 786 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 2: would like it. 787 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll check it out. 788 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 2: I also just watched The Lazarus Project, which then I 789 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 2: found out got canceled after two seasons. 790 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: I have not seen that. I don't know if you'd 791 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:26,879 Speaker 1: like it. 792 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 2: It's like a little sci fi. 793 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't, thank you. 794 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 2: But there's a new season of Slow Horses, so I'm 795 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 2: excited for that. 796 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: Oh that's a good one too. I haven't started that 797 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: one in there. 798 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 2: But you know I love a good little spy stuff. 799 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,720 Speaker 1: So all right, what's on the TikTok? 800 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 2: Kevin Okay ship we found on TikTok. It's really simple, 801 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:55,839 Speaker 2: it's great, it's funny. It's Man of the Mirror. If 802 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 2: you want to. 803 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:05,800 Speaker 1: Alan excess Stilenski, yeah, Duda, duda. 804 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,720 Speaker 2: If you want to make the world a better place, 805 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 2: take a look yourself and make that Change, it's me 806 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 2: as Artie, and then on Change it's Naya as Artie. 807 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 3: That's really funny, very good, It's really yeah, it's very good. 808 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:28,320 Speaker 1: Really enjoyed it. Simple yet effective. We love that. Yeah, 809 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:33,360 Speaker 1: all right, we did it. Another successful watch, Nashville. I 810 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 1: hope you guys enjoyed it. Let us know what you 811 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:42,280 Speaker 1: think of the show and your thoughts, and thanks for listening. 812 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,879 Speaker 1: We we have homework for you, guys. So next we're 813 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 1: talking to Charles Destin. Please take in. I don't know 814 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 1: what happened to me, Jenna. This always happens. I know, 815 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: we get you, we get you, get you, and then 816 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 1: your guys excited as signing for next week. So we're 817 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 1: staying in the TV world honor the new season of 818 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 1: Gray's Anatomy premiering. We are watching the Gray's Anatomy musical episode. 819 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 1: Stick with us. I don't think this is gonna be 820 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: all sunshine and rainbows. 821 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 2: Wait, it was season seven. It was that long ago. 822 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,240 Speaker 1: Yes, yes it was, and it was called song Beneath 823 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: the Song and Kevin, I'm really curious for all of 824 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,879 Speaker 1: your thoughts. I'm gonna hate it, You're gonna hate it, 825 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,760 Speaker 1: but I can't wait I can't wait. 826 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,800 Speaker 2: We say it with love because I love Gray's Anatomy. 827 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,399 Speaker 1: And also like I loved it because it doesn't even 828 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 1: matter because I love Gray's Anatomy so much. So listen 829 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,720 Speaker 1: to us bar next week. Okay, thanks for thanks for listening, 830 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: and that's what you. 831 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 2: Really miss Thanks for listening, and follow us on Instagram 832 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 2: at and That's what you really miss pod. Make sure 833 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 2: to write us a review and leave us five stars. 834 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:51,839 Speaker 1: See you next time.