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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we'd give up everything for

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Speaker 1: Travis Hunter. I am Greg Rosenthal, and I am here

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Speaker 1: upstairs in the NFL Network headquarters where Fantasy Live is

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Speaker 1: usually kicking it. But tonight we are talking NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: and I am with two of the best analysts in

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Speaker 1: the business, my friends Steve Weiss and Patrick Clayband. We've

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Speaker 1: spent the whole night together with fun.

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Speaker 2: If the first round was exciting, right without like six

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Speaker 2: or seven quarterbacks in the first ten, to see all

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Speaker 2: this kind of back and forth, I love.

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Speaker 3: This is a super fun first round, like starting off

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Speaker 3: with a trade.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, essentially because we all expected to see what happened

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Speaker 4: at one, but then to get the trade that we

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Speaker 4: were excited about the potential of and then it actually happens.

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Speaker 1: It was good ant to just sit here kind of

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Speaker 1: old school wise and just like watch a draft with

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Speaker 1: my friends here and get to crack wise and we

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Speaker 1: get to do it all again. So if you're watching

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Speaker 1: on YouTube, we love you. If you're listening to us

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Speaker 1: on the podcast, we got you covered. We're going to

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Speaker 1: go through every single pick. But you mentioned the trade

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Speaker 1: right off the top. Let's go to the start of

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Speaker 1: the night cam word goes first, of course, but let's

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Speaker 1: talk about what the Jaguars did. They kind of hinted

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Speaker 1: over the last couple of days and even today James

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Speaker 1: Gladstone does an interview it that said like be ready,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna send some fireworks, and people were thinking it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be Ashton Genty maybe that they try to trade

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Speaker 1: up for, and instead they do the move that. Now

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Speaker 1: that it's happened, I can't believe it wasn't talked about

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Speaker 1: more throughout the process, which was a team giving up

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Speaker 1: a boat load to go take a prospect in Travis

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Speaker 1: Hunter that is different than any prospect we've literally every

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Speaker 1: ever seen. I'm surprised there wasn't more of a bidding war.

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Speaker 1: What do you think, Steve about the trade up for Hunt?

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Speaker 2: Well, I love it because you heard Gladstone and Tony

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Speaker 2: Bocelly come on say we're gonna be aggressive, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: do things differently. And they draft the unicorn player in

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Speaker 2: Travis Hunter, right, So is he gonna be offense? Seems so,

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Speaker 2: But they need help with one of their corners as well.

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Speaker 2: But they go out and they get someone who clearly

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Speaker 2: is gonna you know, create a buzz. It's all about

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence. So now they get him the most explosive

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Speaker 2: wide receiver in the draft of Fred Belinnikov Award winner

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Speaker 2: and Travis Hunter. So the fact that they were this

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Speaker 2: how aggressive they were a little bit in free agency

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Speaker 2: as well. You look, Brian Thomas here, got Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 1: There, my guy, Brian Thomas. I mean, maybe he isn't

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Speaker 1: the best wide receiver on the team anymore, crazy, but.

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Speaker 2: My thing isn't even just a talent. It's the fact

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Speaker 2: that this is a mindset with the Jaguars, like we

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Speaker 2: could have stayed a five and taken Ash and Genty, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, we have a pretty good couple of running

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Speaker 2: backs back there, right, let's go out and get it.

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Speaker 2: And I like the fact again they've got an analytics GM.

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Speaker 2: Now Gladstone did the math, so this is what it's

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Speaker 1: I'll see, I'll stop you there too, I hear you.

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Speaker 1: And the the analytics all that's great. First of all,

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Speaker 1: you're getting two picks in one with Travis Hunter. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: but to me, it was just about this kid is

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Speaker 1: so special that whatever we need to give up is

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Speaker 1: probably not going to be too much. And here's the

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Speaker 1: deal again. They give the Browns the number five overall pick,

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Speaker 1: so Cleveland, we'll get to their part of it in

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Speaker 1: they get another high pick in the second round, and

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Speaker 1: They're also sent back like two fourths were, but basically

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Speaker 1: year's Jaguars first and thirty six over ull. Like the

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Speaker 1: trade chart probably says it's fair, Patrick, but I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be in a world where I

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Speaker 1: But in this case, like I don't like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah from the from the Browns point of view, because

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Speaker 4: So I could see from from the analytics standpoint, it's, oh, well, statistically,

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Speaker 4: the way I look at it is the round value

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Speaker 4: So these are these are hypothetical players, but Travis Hunter

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Speaker 4: is here now, and Travis Hunter can help your offense

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Speaker 4: really been that much. Okay, they make the deal because like,

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Speaker 4: I don't need I can't do twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Right now, right But see and I hear that too,

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Speaker 1: like I I don't mind picking up next year's first.

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Speaker 1: it's smart to wait till next year to get like

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Speaker 1: those picks have a lot of value. Now the Jaguars

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Speaker 2: And Cleveland saying, guess what, we've got two first round

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Speaker 2: go get our quarterback for the long term next year

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Speaker 2: because they don't have that guy on their roster right now.

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Speaker 1: Right but will Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski be there

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Speaker 2: It seems like there had to be some type of

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Speaker 1: Hack they have acted like they got all the job security.

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Speaker 2: In the world because Jimmy haslam and you heard it

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Speaker 4: I feel like has them took we out of that

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Speaker 4: but then ominously immediately behind them, not like in a

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Speaker 1: Them literally over their shoulder.

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Speaker 4: Lurking, actually over their shoulder, which makes me wonder, like,

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Speaker 1: Okay, I hear all that they went three and fourteen

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Speaker 1: The coach in the GM market all, no one's that paper.

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Speaker 3: Well, then the next folks have the amo to get

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Speaker 4: Man, Like, what what result? What other result than that?

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Speaker 4: Like is the one that we're expecting.

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll see who they end up with at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: People think it's gonna be Joe Flacco. They have the

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Speaker 1: taking Sar Sanders. They could wind up taking Tyler Shuck. Eventually,

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Speaker 1: And then there were some teams, and I believe the Browns,

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Speaker 1: this guy in the building. You talked about how twitchy.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, we were just talking to me. You

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Speaker 2: We're real happy to be going to Jacksonville, didn't he?

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Speaker 2: And here's here's something else to think about. Who's the

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Speaker 2: they got a safety. When I got CJ. Gardner Johnson,

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Speaker 2: So now you got a guy, you got a one

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Speaker 1: It's it's incredible. It's just a shot of adrenaline for

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Speaker 1: a franchise that I think could absolutely use it. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's going to be playing in a stadium that's not

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Speaker 1: these games in London, you know what I mean? Like

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Speaker 1: they could use someone. And when I saw him bounding

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Speaker 1: I saw him bounty up at stage, I'm like, this

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Speaker 1: could be the rare person. And you know, Joe Klatt

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Speaker 1: on the NFL Network broadcast compared him to show a Tany,

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Speaker 1: which makes a lot of sense to me. He'd be

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Speaker 1: the rare person that's not a quarterback and could be

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Speaker 1: the face of the NFL. Yes, and to have that

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Speaker 1: be a Jacksonville Jaguar, like, I don't know, you just

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Speaker 1: can't pay for that. And I think this one is

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Speaker 1: it could haunt the brown Yeah.

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Speaker 3: He checks literally every box.

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Speaker 4: The Heisman Trophy winner, He's arguably the best wide receiver

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Speaker 4: in the draft. His best play last year was a

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Speaker 4: game winning forced fumble on the goal line. Like coming

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Speaker 4: up and filling a hole like a linebacker. It makes

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Speaker 4: it makes sense, I understand if you're talking about hypothetical

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Speaker 4: football and the Cleveland Browns and it's like, oh, this

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Speaker 4: quarterback who shall not be named, who may be there

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Speaker 4: in twenty so I don't know, but Travis Hunter is

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Speaker 4: there ten night now.

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Speaker 1: To be fair, they're adding a real player in Mason

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Speaker 1: Graham at number five overall. And before we get to

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Speaker 1: the Giants switch because that they're the other big team tonight,

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about let's just you know, finish

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Speaker 3: And that's all it takes. It takes one team to

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Speaker 4: The Browns like Mason Graham at five, and so we'll

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Speaker 1: Anything that ever happens with the Browns. But the same

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk. Let's talk Giants, because I think Giants fans

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we'll see.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, let's start with Abdul Carter because again,

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Speaker 2: pass rushers. Right, they got Kveon Thibodeau, they got Burns.

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Speaker 1: Is that allowed?

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Speaker 3: We're gonna slow guys down. It's gonna be ugly, but

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Speaker 2: Then they go back and get Jackson Dark And this

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Speaker 3: Maybe he's a developmental guy. He's an RPO guy.

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Speaker 2: We see Brian day Ball when he was in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: How many years was he there though, like six years?

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Speaker 3: It was just one year. That was the one year

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Speaker 2: They picked him his contract and so you know, I

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Speaker 2: You've got Russ there plus and you know we talked

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Speaker 3: Right, maybe they can get some.

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Speaker 1: Well, they said Russell Wilson was going to be the starter.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, after the trade and the Brian day Ball talking

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Speaker 1: Just he's our starter, don't you think, Like Kevon Thibodau's

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Speaker 3: Is I don't understand what it does?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, why why bother does Russ need that particular massage?

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Speaker 1: Just Russ is a guy that that I don't know.

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Speaker 1: He's making ten million dollars. But when I look at

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Speaker 4: In defense of Jackson Dark like the Ole Miss offense

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Speaker 4: Sorry, And you know, Mat Correl's is doing all right

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Speaker 1: Plus I I didn't see it with Jackson Dart totally

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Speaker 1: I've thought that the Giants are a little more ready

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Speaker 2: Here's the only real issue I have with this, because

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Speaker 3: Philly and Casey aren't taking quarterbacks. Why did they have

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Speaker 4: Trade up, you get a quarterback, you sit on the

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Speaker 4: we need him to play ultimately, and so he sits

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Speaker 4: I know this season is not going too well with

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Speaker 1: That's your answer. And it's one of the things I

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Speaker 2: It shows you how much you like them then, right,

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Speaker 1: That is a very tough needle for these two men,

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Speaker 1: So you give up what you need to get them.

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Speaker 1: And to be fair, they didn't give up a crazy amount,

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Speaker 1: You're betting your future of the French for the next

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Houston's like, okay, great, thanks because we got to

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Speaker 1: I should mention, yes, Houston was the team that traded

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Speaker 1: But there is no greater pain than a young child

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Speaker 3: Say, Walker, don't worry. All the reporters who cover the

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Speaker 1: some things? I can't even say, Walker if they Anyways,

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Speaker 1: this is all.

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Speaker 3: I want to get to four because that's that's the

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Speaker 3: pick that got you real excited.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, let's let's move on to to Will Campbell.

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Speaker 1: Actually all right at this point, let's let's go at

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Speaker 1: order now. Because those were to me, the two the

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Speaker 1: two biggest. Right, I don't want to do the thing

443
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Speaker 1: that ESPN reportedly did. I wasn't watching the ESPN broadcast.

444
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Speaker 1: Of course, we were in here, were watching the best

445
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Speaker 1: draft broadcasts out there. This is one time where I

446
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Speaker 1: don't feel like I'm a company man. I will say

447
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Speaker 1: it with my chest. We do the draft better than anyone.

448
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Speaker 3: We do the big events. We do the big events

449
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Speaker 3: better than.

450
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Speaker 1: And and I love watching Daniel Jeremia up there tonight.

451
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Speaker 1: He was great, CD rich and the whole thing. And

452
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Speaker 1: we were watching and apparently on ESPN like all they

453
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Speaker 1: did was talk about Shudar Sanders and the second the

454
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Speaker 1: cam Ward pick happened, they complained they thought should or

455
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Speaker 1: should have been the pick, and then they just went

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Speaker 1: on to the Travis Hunter trade. So let's give kim

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Speaker 1: Ward a little bit of love have in his moment.

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Speaker 1: The Tennessee Titans. As much as we expected it, now,

459
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Speaker 1: we didn't. First of all, we didn't know three months ago,

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Speaker 1: and we certainly didn't know like a year ago. And

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Speaker 1: if you think of the journey that cam Ward was on,

462
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Speaker 1: he was a like wing tea quarterback in high school

463
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Speaker 1: that could not get anyone interested in him. He goes

464
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Speaker 1: to Incarnate Ward, has an insane season at a low

465
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Speaker 1: level of college football, gets to Washington State finally, and

466
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Speaker 1: this is after just like his dad has spoken about this,

467
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Speaker 1: going all over the country just trying to get someone

468
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Speaker 1: interested in his kid. Just couldn't make it happen until

469
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Speaker 1: he went to college. And then they did it again

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Speaker 1: at Incarnate Ward and they made it happen, and then

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Speaker 1: here he is. I didn't even realize this. I'm surprised

472
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Speaker 1: this wasn't said more. He's literally thrown more touchdown passes

473
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Speaker 1: than any Division one quarterback and isn't that crazy? Do

474
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Speaker 1: you think that would be a bigger deal?

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Speaker 3: You think, like tiy dad, where somebody to bring him

476
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Speaker 3: young would have like that record as watching that you

477
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Speaker 3: should throw the ball up.

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Speaker 1: It shows me I'm not a great college guy because

479
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Speaker 1: I learned that today. So shout out to cam Ward.

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Speaker 1: And I think the Titans fans should be really exciting

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Speaker 1: and happy that they turned down some of the offers

482
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Speaker 1: to move up. The reporting was that the Giants really

483
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Speaker 1: wanted to move up to take him.

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Speaker 4: And it's almost appropriate that that some vehicles didn't give

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Speaker 4: cam Ward the attention he probably deserved as the number

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Speaker 4: one overall pick, because it's par for the course that

487
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Speaker 4: they have to drive around and essentially beg people whose

488
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Speaker 4: job is allegedly to evaluate talent, and a guy who

489
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Speaker 4: was ultimately going to break an NCAA record and be

490
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Speaker 4: the number one overall pick has to do everything to

491
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Speaker 4: become a part of the recruiting process. Is really an

492
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Speaker 4: indictment of them, But it's a testimony and.

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Speaker 1: A little bit of an indictment of Mel Kuiper. I

494
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Speaker 1: love Mel Kuiper, but just the guy didn't even get

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Speaker 1: taken in the first round.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we'll get to that par later. I'm

497
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Speaker 3: not gonna crack on on Mel.

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Speaker 1: That was great. I just mean his number run over

499
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Speaker 1: all player at the first I mean, and look when

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Speaker 1: you watch cam Ward play, I mean one thing, I

501
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Speaker 1: love his competitive You know, we talk about guys who compete.

502
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Speaker 3: It's different with some guys.

503
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Speaker 2: Right when I used to cover the NBA, like Kevin

504
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 2: Garnett competed like every second his life depended on the

505
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Speaker 2: way he played. Some of the guys were just gifted

506
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Speaker 2: and did things like that. And I'm not saying she

507
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Speaker 2: do or someone that fits into that second category. But

508
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Speaker 2: the way cam Ward competed at Miami and the way

509
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Speaker 2: he uplifted everybody, he's gonna have to a whole lot

510
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Speaker 2: of uplifting at Tennessee because they that roster is still

511
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Speaker 2: very devoid of any type of nucleus, Like there's really

512
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Speaker 2: no position group to build around right now. So he's

513
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 2: got a long way to go to build some stuff

514
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Speaker 2: up that includes the skill positions and things like that

515
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Speaker 2: that they're gonna have to do better. They've got to

516
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Speaker 2: nail this draft all the way through. But I think

517
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Speaker 2: he's a good starting point. I don't think it's gonna

518
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Speaker 2: be a Jaden Daniels type of resurrection, but I think

519
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Speaker 2: he is a good starting point for them to build around.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you think about they're gonna have their

521
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Speaker 1: their pick at the top of the second round. They

522
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Speaker 1: don't have the first pick because it's the Browns have

523
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Speaker 1: that one. But there's just the way the draft fell.

524
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Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a receiver they're gonna love there,

525
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Speaker 1: we'll see that. That's a conversation for Friday. Nick Shook

526
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Speaker 1: is back in the mix, and Nick Shook and uh,

527
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Speaker 1: he'll be with me recapping Friday and all right, let's

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Speaker 1: get to Will Campbell. So Draft Day, the great movie

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Speaker 1: I've still never seen, I have to admit watase, I

530
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Speaker 1: just know that the phrase is Vonte mac no matter what.

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Speaker 1: And for me as a Patriots fan who's getting back

532
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Speaker 1: into the team now after I kind of gave up

533
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Speaker 1: on them a little bit for a while, but now

534
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Speaker 1: that Drake May is there, I'm back in my opinion

535
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Speaker 1: tonight was anyone but Will Campbell no matter what. That's

536
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Speaker 1: what I didn't want, Will Campbell, and they they took

537
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Speaker 1: Will Campbell fourth overall, and to me, he was an

538
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Speaker 1: example like Mason Graham, of a class that just didn't

539
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Speaker 1: have a lot of blue chip talent and people, I

540
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Speaker 1: just don't love that fourth overall. You're taking a guy

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Speaker 1: who immediately like, well if he has to play guard

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Speaker 1: or center, like you're already talking about him moving inside

543
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Speaker 1: that he's not as physically talented. You're making a.

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Speaker 3: Sense of it.

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Speaker 2: So what so what you saw that offensive light? You

546
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Speaker 2: just said you loved Drake May. You're back on the wagon. Yes,

547
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 2: he got his ass kicked last year. Yeah, guard, center, tackle,

548
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Speaker 2: you take the best offensive line, you kick him in.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was armand member, but Bembo looked like

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Speaker 1: everything about Membo screams to me, Oh yeah, that's what

551
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: a top ten pick at tackle looks like. Incredibly athletic.

552
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Speaker 1: I know Will Kimball's tasting score was athletic after he

553
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 1: drops twenty pounds in all this, and maybe he'll be good.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess I was no more than

555
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: me that the tape really wasn't all that, that he's

556
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Speaker 1: caving in and that he did everything possible to have

557
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: the best college career ever. But is he going to

558
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: translate at the NFL level? Or does he project more

559
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Speaker 1: like I don't know who am I think of Eric

560
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: Fisher like just like an okay guy who's gonna maybe

561
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Speaker 1: be the twelfth best tackle in the league. I want

562
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Speaker 1: something better than that.

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Speaker 4: Steve, the twelfth best tackle in the league is somebody

564
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Speaker 4: you would kill for.

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Speaker 1: You, not if it takes like four years to get there,

566
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Speaker 1: and that guy want you. I want Membo. I wanted Membo,

567
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Speaker 1: or I wanted genty or I just want I want

568
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Speaker 1: a premiere talent. I want a guy that has a

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Speaker 1: chance to make a lot of Pro Bowls. Maybe he will,

570
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Speaker 1: Maybe he'll be Matt White, who was another guy who

571
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Speaker 1: had some weird measurables and like was kind of a tough,

572
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: try hard guy, ended up making.

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Speaker 2: He's got He's got a little bit of this with

574
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Speaker 2: the Matt like stuff. What mentality the mentality of the character, but.

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Speaker 1: Also start killing me for this appoint Yeah, the.

576
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Speaker 4: The physical traits are there, it's not. It's not as

577
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Speaker 4: though Will camp If Will Campbell's arms were an inch

578
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 4: longer on either side, like the discussion would have been entirely,

579
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Speaker 4: entirely different. But I do think like it does play

580
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Speaker 4: into his particular play style.

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Speaker 1: Not to be that guy, but just like the body

582
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Speaker 1: like him versus Membo. Just I think people usually care

583
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Speaker 1: about that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 3: Depends depends on what you're trying to do.

585
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Speaker 4: I just think a player who gets who gets on

586
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 4: campus and baton rouge and plays all the way. Now

587
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 4: like Gate he was, he was he was running to

588
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 4: wear the number seven as a as an offensive tackle.

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Speaker 3: Right, there's there's no there's nothing wrong.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's listen to to Will Campbell because I

591
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: gotta say, once he got on the mic with Jamie

592
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: or Dall, he started to wouldn't be over.

593
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Speaker 5: I've worked my entire life to be up here, to

594
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Speaker 5: be able to get my name called by franchise like

595
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Speaker 5: New England, it means everything too me.

596
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Speaker 3: We can feel that, we absolutely can feel that.

597
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,360
Speaker 5: Well, you are brought to New England to protect Drake May.

598
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Speaker 3: What kind of tone are you going to set on

599
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 3: this offensive line?

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Speaker 5: I'm a fighting guy to protect them with everything I've got.

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Speaker 1: Let's do there we go.

602
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 4: I saw, I saw, I saw it change and Greg,

603
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,239
Speaker 4: the moment that happened, that's what I love.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember say that when you got talked to

605
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Speaker 3: up on stage?

606
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: I don't remember.

607
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 3: Remember he was at home any.

608
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: It's like, did I did I blake out for that?

609
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 3: Yeah?

610
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,959
Speaker 1: I guess this is just a general thought and I

611
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Speaker 1: and I obviously could end up being wrong. Everyone can

612
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: be wrong about any of these. When when the evaluation

613
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Speaker 1: leads with the intangibles, which I feel like Campbell was

614
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Speaker 1: like the number one guy of that in this class,

615
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Speaker 1: that's always a bit of a red flag with me

616
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Speaker 1: and and the and then Vrabo was talking about how

617
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Speaker 1: much you wanted, you know, guys who could carry the

618
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Speaker 1: weight of the number four overall pick and real patriots

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Speaker 1: and this it all just feels like, you know, uh,

620
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: reducts from what happened with Belichick. It's like, no, I

621
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Speaker 1: want just like super talented players, not just nice guys.

622
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Speaker 4: Because people go with the intangibles all the time, it

623
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 4: never means anything. All of this tangibles are actually there. Yeah,

624
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 4: he's an explosive.

625
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Speaker 2: It started literally every game at left tackle and you

626
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 2: know what a private workout rabels and outside backer was

627
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 2: working and working his tail and he put the palls

628
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Speaker 2: on my exactly the hands on.

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Speaker 1: By the way. Shout out to everyone in the chat,

630
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Speaker 1: now we love you. Someone just said very metal behavior

631
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Speaker 1: by maybe yes.

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Speaker 3: It is, Yes, well done.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like it's happening though. I feel like

634
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Speaker 1: Patriots fans are are going to be loving this pick

635
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: because of everything that you just said. And I've been

636
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: skeptical of the whole Rabel era, and yet I should

637
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,959
Speaker 1: be on so spoiled then I am spoiled. All right,

638
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: let's go, let's go to the number five. Overall, we

639
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: got to start picking up the pace here. But this

640
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: was the top of the draft. So that was Mason

641
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: Graham And you mentioned the weird vibes that were in

642
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: the Browns room, Let's go to the Raiders. I thought

643
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: it was really interesting that they only took about two

644
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: minutes before drafting Ash and Genty after all the draft

645
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: you know, speculation for months, the first guy on forties

646
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: and free agents, the podcast they did with Daniel Jeremiah,

647
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: the first Team fit that he just was like, I'm

648
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: just hearing like Raiders and Genty, I think that's gonna happen.

649
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: That was That was like eight weeks ago, and it

650
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: actually happened. And everyone like me who follows this stuff

651
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: too closely, almost Jedi mind tricked ourselves this week because

652
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: they almost were two out fronts making it sound like

653
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Speaker 1: they were going to take Genty. But they did take Genty,

654
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Speaker 1: and I'm glad they did. Gino's got a fun weapon,

655
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Speaker 1: what a cool offense, him and Bowers.

656
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Speaker 4: And it makes me look think back to Pete's time

657
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 4: in Seattle, where it's the Chris Carson's it's the round

658
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 4: out running backs. Of course, Marshawn, Marshawn and generational. But

659
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 4: that was a Bills draft pick that defines his way

660
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 4: to Seattle where I'm looking back and I'm thinking, well,

661
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Speaker 4: maybe the running back drafting situation was more Schneider than Pete,

662
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 4: and Pete gets this opportunity with his new team, and

663
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Speaker 4: they get this player who's done things that we have

664
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Speaker 4: not seen in twenty or thirty years at the running

665
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Speaker 4: back position, and it makes sense.

666
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Speaker 3: It's the only thing that makes it.

667
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 2: They were the worst rushing team in the NFL last year.

668
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 2: They averaged less than eighty yards game running the football.

669
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Speaker 2: They were terrible. Now they've got to fix some things

670
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: on the offensive line. But Chip Kelly showed his evolution.

671
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: Like he's a guy who came from kind of that

672
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: wing T style stuff, a small school up in the Northeast,

673
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 2: and he's really evolved. He is very creative and what

674
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Speaker 2: he can do. So I think genty in this offense

675
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Speaker 2: because he can catch the ball out of the backfield

676
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Speaker 2: as well. So now you've got a home run hitter,

677
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Speaker 2: you got a banger.

678
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Speaker 1: You got a home run hitter that plays tight end

679
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Speaker 1: with brock Bauer, that is a starting point. You got

680
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: a solid receiver for at least one more year in

681
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Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers. I'm really curious what they're gonna do. They've

682
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: got I think they're absolutely a sneaky Shuldar Sanders team

683
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: at the top of the side ground. I don't think

684
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: they would trade up for Sudar, but I think if

685
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: he is still sitting there, they could take him. It

686
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Speaker 1: just that makes some sense, I agree.

687
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Speaker 3: But the.

688
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Speaker 4: Main takeaway is in the last two drafts, the Raiders

689
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Speaker 4: have gotten two of the best three players in college football.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, easily.

691
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Speaker 1: And uh genty shows up there with the diamond and

692
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: crusted crocs. That was him, right, Yeah, that was amazing.

693
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Speaker 1: I love Ashton Genty.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

695
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Speaker 1: If we look at the running backs taken in the

696
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Speaker 1: top ten over the last ten years, it was girly.

697
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Speaker 1: I would say that was a triple or a home run,

698
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: considering what even if you know Zeke, that was a

699
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: triple or a home run Fournette, I'll give it a

700
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Speaker 1: single because it gave him a little bit for a

701
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: minute there when when they did make the AFC Championship

702
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: and then Saquon and Bejon home run. I think it's

703
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Speaker 1: going to be a home run. So over the hit

704
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Speaker 1: rate has been high for taking armand Membu goes to

705
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Speaker 1: the Jets at love it number seven. I absolutely love it.

706
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: I think sign of the times. I think they got

707
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Speaker 1: the better offensive lineman even though they were there we

708
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: go the Patriots.

709
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: Well, well he's a right tackle, right, so they can

710
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: a bunch of RPO stuff. Now that Justin Fields is

711
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 2: a quarterback there. You know, the offensive coordinator comes up

712
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: from Aaron Glenn comes up from Detroit, so you get

713
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Speaker 2: a guy who can mash right.

714
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Speaker 3: They built the offensive line.

715
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: They got some players along that offensive front, so bris Hall,

716
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: he saw bres Hall with the you know, fingers crossed

717
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: type thing. So I really like this pick. It's it's

718
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Speaker 2: a physicality statement and to keep on building right there.

719
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Speaker 1: They are going to build an offense around Justin Fields

720
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Speaker 1: that I don't know if it's going to work or not.

721
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Speaker 1: Tanner Engstrom is the coordinator right from Detroit, but I

722
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Speaker 1: think it's going to be around Justin Fields. I think

723
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Speaker 1: they're going to do everything that they can to be

724
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: a difficult defense to prepare for. That is a run

725
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Speaker 1: first team with an offensive line that on paper is

726
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Speaker 1: sneaky offesome.

727
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Speaker 3: So it's pretty good.

728
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Speaker 1: It's like Joe Douglas, the former GM, spent his entire

729
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: tenure in New York trying to build a good offensive

730
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Speaker 1: line and he didn't really get it done until his

731
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: last year there, and they were still Shorre to write

732
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Speaker 1: tackle and now they add this guy Membu, who I'm

733
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Speaker 1: really high on, and it's like they could be fun.

734
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Speaker 1: I think I said it coming into the draft, but

735
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Speaker 1: the Jets over under five and a half was like

736
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Speaker 1: the worst line out there. I'm killing that over, not

737
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Speaker 1: that we're allowed to.

738
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you make one significant change and all of a

739
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 4: sudden things start to look a whole lot better. You

740
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 4: can start making your actual picks and go through free

741
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 4: agency with your actual acquisitions, where it kind of shows

742
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Speaker 4: you how dysfunctional things can be and how quickly they

743
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 4: can turn around when you have a cohesive plan that

744
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Speaker 4: makes sense to everybody.

745
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Speaker 1: And by the way, if if you end up going

746
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Speaker 1: back and watching this on YouTube, you're with us life.

747
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 1: I'm not being rude, like texting while my friend Patrick

748
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: is talking, but I'm just trying to send the tweet out.

749
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Speaker 1: It's just I looked up and I'm like, I look

750
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Speaker 1: like a jackass here texting. Good show. Let's go to

751
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Speaker 1: number eight Carolina Panthers. Surprise, you're not happy with them

752
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 1: taking team a tet McMillan, one of the first real

753
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: surprises of the night. It's funny because everyone was like chaos,

754
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: we're gonna have casts and the Jaguars gave us a

755
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: little spice. But to be honest, it wasn't that kadok

756
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: kaotok tonight. It was relatively predictable in terms of teams

757
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: and fits and roughly where players would went. But Tet

758
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: McMillan to the Panthers was surprising to just about everyone

759
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Speaker 1: except for my our buddy Josh Norris, who we had

760
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Speaker 1: on earlier this week, who is digging the connection se well.

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Speaker 2: I mean I like some of that. I mean, look,

762
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 2: he's someone who should be able to come in and help.

763
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Speaker 2: They need receiver help, they need to help out Bryce.

764
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Speaker 2: But this defense was historic glean terrible, historically terrible. They

765
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Speaker 2: had nothing on the edge. And you see the first

766
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 2: twenty eight picks, ten of them were defensive linemen. So

767
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Speaker 2: you know, iro Edra one of the better defensive coordinators

768
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 2: whose career is going down the toilet now because he's

769
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Speaker 2: got no players on that side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: They wouldn't let him leave those.

771
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they've got I mean, they have better really

772
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Speaker 2: commit to that side of the ball the rest of

773
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Speaker 2: the draft. I mean, I get in Teed McMillan he's

774
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: a talented player. You got to help the offense. But

775
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 2: this defense is it was historically garbage with someone who's

776
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Speaker 2: considered one of the best tacticians and schemers in the NFL.

777
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Speaker 1: But don't you got to just take what the board

778
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: tells you. There, it's interesting that no defensive players went

779
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Speaker 1: other than Carter in the in the top eleven.

780
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Speaker 3: Okay, so they take tet right.

781
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 4: Then four picks later, Michael Williams goes to San Francisco

782
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 4: and then Kenneth Grant comes off the board. Jalen Walker

783
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 4: to the Falcons. Shamar Stewart like, if if the if

784
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 4: the value wasn't lining up for how they saw the

785
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 4: defensive prospects that there were plenty of teams shortly thereafter

786
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 4: that saw the value for them.

787
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: I would push back on that because to me, now,

788
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: Tet t Mac he was a risky prospect. There were

789
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: there were was talk about him that he was kind of.

790
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 3: Casual.

791
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: Casual was the word that you use, and and DJ

792
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: even hinted at it throughout the draft process. That look

793
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: like if he was not the primary guy, he was

794
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 1: not running those routes out too hard, he was not blocking.

795
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: He maybe didn't play as hard this year as he

796
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: did his year previous when he had a better coaching

797
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: staff and maybe didn't think he already had kind of

798
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: locked in the topic that said, he was as productive

799
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: as any wide receiver in the league, and you just

800
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 1: look at him, and I would argue, to finally get

801
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: to my point that like if the Jags had taken

802
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: him at five, they were reportedly thinking about him, if

803
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: if they didn't end up moving up for one hundred,

804
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: like that would have made sense to me. He's a

805
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: guy that I think fits what I expect out of

806
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: a top ten to twelve pick. And maybe these defensive players,

807
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: at least how they saw and how maybe I see

808
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: it too, like that they were getting pushed up the

809
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: board a little bit where it was like you could

810
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: just pick any of them, but in most drafts they

811
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Speaker 1: might have been fallen a little further at least in

812
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Speaker 1: terms of ceiling. I mean that dude looks like a

813
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: number one receiver.

814
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Speaker 4: Ex I just I saw the promise right from Cocher

815
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 4: last year. There was there was a solid there, It

816
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 4: was a solid deal in season, He's he's going to

817
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 4: be back, Lee Get's gonna get better. I just felt

818
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 4: the need and need is going to put you in

819
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 4: a lot of places if you're drafting strictly based on need.

820
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Speaker 4: But it was so glaring that they needed somebody to

821
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 4: make plays on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 3: I liked it.

823
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Speaker 4: I think all the amateur psychology is a bit too

824
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Speaker 4: much sometimes, where we've got a bunch of Charles Xaviers

825
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 4: evaluating players. It's like looking at when they're trying harder

826
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Speaker 4: when they're not. I don't necessarily put a whole lot

827
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Speaker 4: of faith in that. But the defense is Steve pointed out,

828
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 4: as we said, week after a week last year was

829
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Speaker 4: so bad.

830
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Speaker 1: Shout out to ted team he wants to be called

831
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Speaker 1: t all right, shout out to him on the stage,

832
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 1: zough shouting out his marriage. Is he going to be

833
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: in the Polynesian Hall of Fame?

834
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Speaker 3: So last year he was a Polgies Football Hall of Fame's.

835
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Speaker 1: College Player of the Year.

836
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Speaker 2: So yeah, so he's got a shot to get. You know,

837
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 2: he's got to beat up to a school for like

838
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 2: the next five years to be the pro player of

839
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Speaker 2: the year. But he's based, you know, based on his potential.

840
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Speaker 1: Shout out to the North Shore of Hawaiian favorite places

841
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 1: on Earth? Where the where the Paly Hall of Famers

842
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 1: and then shout out to Josh G. Norris just quickly, Uh,

843
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: yesterday he tweeted this out to Uh. He sleuthed it.

844
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: He he pointed out who was on Jed Fisher's staff

845
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: in Arizona, Brennan Carroll. Pete Carroll's son. Pete Carroll was

846
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: Dave Canalis's mentor and coaching, his north star and coaching.

847
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: He was on the staff with Dave Canalis in Seattle,

848
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Speaker 1: and his brother was his brother, Nathan Carroll was on

849
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Speaker 1: Dave Canalis's staff in Caroline. So a lot of Carrol

850
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: Canalis connections and they had the pipeline and maybe the

851
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: coaching style to tap into t Mac's best and feel like, hey,

852
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: we have the confidence this kid's are right, Like we

853
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: know how to coach him up. And it's telling to

854
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,479
Speaker 1: me that at someone that knew him better in terms

855
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 1: of inside intel than anyone in this class ended up drafting.

856
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: So I think that's going to be a.

857
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Speaker 3: Much just the right type of stuff to get it

858
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 3: out of him, right.

859
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: I think that's going to be a better pick than

860
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Speaker 1: the Saints who took Kelvin Banks. Well, I mean it's

861
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: hard to just kill picks. We don't know, but like Campbell,

862
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: you're taking these tackles. Who the first thing you hear

863
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: from a lot of people is like, yeah, if it

864
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: doesn't work out, how move inside the guard. So that

865
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Speaker 1: could be the Kelvin.

866
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Speaker 3: But that's just the thing. That's just the general thing

867
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Speaker 3: that people say.

868
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Speaker 2: Okay, you know, like I don't know if that's his

869
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: player dependent And that's also how the great Saints teams

870
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: were built.

871
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 3: You're seeing more and more teams built guard to guard

872
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 3: guard center guard. Look at the Kansasy Chiefs guard center guard.

873
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: But why are they taking him? In part because they

874
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: keep messing up these picks. Well, he's helping to replace

875
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: Trevor Penning, a pick that they traded an extra pick

876
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: up for a few years ago. You know, been up

877
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: up and down injuries at best as a first round pick.

878
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like Jason Light the Bucks GM

879
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: Later we'll talk about him like I just trust him

880
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: implicitly at this point, the Saints have lost my trust.

881
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: It was really interesting when the Bears came up, they

882
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: kind of had their pick and they went with Colston Lovelin,

883
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: not you know, making Patrick happy.

884
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 4: Well, it's not just making me happy, because going in right,

885
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 4: I was on board as a Herald fan and guy

886
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 4: and I went back into Tyler Warren and I just said,

887
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 4: I can't picture anybody else being in the number one

888
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 4: Titan in this class other than Tyler Warren. And I

889
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 4: feel like perhaps the Bears in their evaluation might have

890
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 4: expected Warren to go before number ten, and so it's like, oh, well,

891
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 4: Lovelan's going to be there. We also like him, but

892
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 4: then they now had the pick.

893
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: You're just saying they didn't do an homework.

894
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that they didn't do enough homework.

895
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 4: I think legitimately they believe right they have the opportunity

896
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 4: to take both. But they've pictured what things are going

897
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 4: to look like. And I think the perception of Ben

898
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 4: Johnson and what things were, what this offense was going

899
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 4: to look like based on Detroit, that would feel like

900
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 4: that was a Tyler Warren opportunity.

901
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: Interesting john more of a Loveling to me, You're hoping

902
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: he's Sam Laporta plus. Yeah. I mean, look he's pretty traditional.

903
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 2: But he got some flex potential too, so he can

904
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 2: give you a little bit Keenan Allen did not give

905
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: you last year in that offense. I'm thinking the only

906
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: reason they went this way again I haven't spoken anybody,

907
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 2: is because maybe Warren has a little bit of Cole

908
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 2: Comet in him, right, and they didn't want to necessarily

909
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: duplicate guys.

910
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: I don't know.

911
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 2: I mean, Warren's best, but that's the only reason why

912
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: I can see them well.

913
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: I think Comett's probably not long for this roster, Like

914
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: he'll be on the team this year. After that, it's

915
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: year to year. I think he's at that point in

916
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: his career and it's just a new staff. That's just

917
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: how things worked. And to me, Loveland was a guy

918
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: who who is just more of a natural fit into

919
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: every system. I think if you had Tyler Warren, he's

920
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: not a gadget player necessarily, but just such a unique guy,

921
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to have a special vision for him,

922
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: whereas Loveland is I think everything you're looking for in

923
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: a tight end. It's why we took him in our

924
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: mock draft. We took him ahead of Warren too, and

925
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: we were trying to project what would happen, but we

926
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: had the Jets taking Loveland. We had Warren going to

927
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: the Bears ultimately because we thought were there both out

928
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: and like, Warren only waited four more picks. Let's just

929
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: talk our Warren. So that was the top ten picks.

930
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: We'll go a little out of order just because the

931
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: tight ends, to me are an interesting conversation that Warren

932
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 1: did fall that hard man. I think it worked out

933
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: for him. M's perfect. I mean, you could say any

934
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: pass catcher on the Colts like that's dicey because there's

935
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: not a lot of receptions to go around. But I

936
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: do think Shane Steichen is the type of guy who

937
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: can make manufacturer touches, which is maybe who Tyler Warren

938
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: is right now. You're going to really have to coach

939
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: him up in terms of blocking, in terms of route running.

940
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: He's more of a raw physical talent that you're excited

941
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: about and I am too.

942
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 3: It wasn't like wishcasting.

943
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 4: This isn't vapor where Tyler Warren caught one hundred and

944
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 4: four passes last year at the tight end position. They

945
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 4: snapped in the ball directly, and we're running screens and

946
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 4: stuff to him because he was literally the best player

947
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 4: on the football field. And I feel like it's not

948
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 4: that he is a gadget that you have to manufacture

949
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 4: touches for. It was just the best circumstance for Penn

950
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 4: State right to manufacture touches for Tyler Warren. And so

951
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 4: I don't want folks to think that Tyler Warren is

952
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 4: just like he's not out there beating He's not out

953
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 4: there beating coverage and getting open because he had to

954
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 4: do everything for the team.

955
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: He's got some brock Bowers yet him. He's got some

956
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: brock powers to his game. He's got that type of speed,

957
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: catching and breakaway just to do a lot of creative needs.

958
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: I think he's got more of like Anthony Richardson, which

959
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 1: is that And by that I just mean he's first

960
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: of all, he's not as physically talented. He never tested,

961
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: so we won't really know, but that he's like a

962
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: really unique I'm just better than you. I'm gonna run

963
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: over your face, like Jeremy's shocky type of guy that's

964
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: good raw and needs to be molded and it's in

965
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 1: a really unique talent. And that's just why I think

966
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: maybe he only is gonna fit some teams, and I

967
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 1: think the Colts are one of those things.

968
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 3: Can be great with that. Look what didn't affiliate with

969
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 3: Dallas gott or zach Ertz? Did he? I think he

970
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 3: was with Gage for a little bit of Gates.

971
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: You need a whole lot of It's a good group

972
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: Brown Richardson and or Daniel Jones, Jonathan Taylor, Pittman, Josh

973
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: down to to me.

974
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 3: That offensive line needs a little work. They took some hit.

975
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: I thought they were gonna go lineman. They didn't. Let's

976
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: we'll circle back to the to the forty nine ers

977
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 1: who picked out eleven. Shout out to Pete Schrager who

978
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: who said earlier this week, Michael Williams is going to

979
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: go earlier than people think, and Colston Lovelin's going to

980
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: go earlier than people think, and he hit those two.

981
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: Williams from Georgia was the second defensive player taken in this.

982
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 3: How about that? But it goes to Robert Salah.

983
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: With very little production. I didn't see it when I

984
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: watched him. Obviously, the forty nine ers can scout defensive

985
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: lineman a little better than me watching like ninety minutes

986
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: of Michael Williams or whatever. But a guy without a

987
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:30,959
Speaker 1: lot of production but toolsy, and they needed an edge

988
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: and yeah, like I like, no one had him as

989
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: the second defensive player taken until about twenty four hours.

990
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 2: It's interesting though, because you know, Danny Jamia's comp was

991
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: Rashan Gary. He's a guy who can have a ton

992
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 2: of production coming out of Michigan and look at how

993
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 2: good of a player he has been for the Packers.

994
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: And in the right spot where maybe the best defensive

995
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: line coach in the league and it kills the huge

996
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: the So this is one where I even though what

997
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: do I know, I'm just gonna be like, Okay, I'll

998
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: trust the forty nine ers know what they're doing there.

999
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: The Cowboys didn't get on the clock, and we think

1000
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: they're gonna go offense there, whether it's running back, whether

1001
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: it's Matthew Gold and they do go offense, but they

1002
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: go Tyler Booker guard out of your Alabama Crimson Tide,

1003
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: it is yours. Yeah, No, I mean you're Alabama kid.

1004
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I'm from the state of Alabama.

1005
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 4: My wife did go to the university and I and

1006
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 4: if not for Nick Saban and covering the team, I

1007
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 4: probably wouldn't be sitting here having this conversation with you guys. Yeah,

1008
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 4: shout out the coach. But Tyler Booker probably one of

1009
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 4: the bright spots on the on the front for the

1010
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 4: past two years where there's been a lot of turnover

1011
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 4: and a lot of problems. There were some injuries as well,

1012
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 4: and he was the most consistent player on the team.

1013
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 4: And like, like you guys, I'm sitting here thinking about

1014
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 4: the picks, I'm thinking about Dak needing another option like

1015
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 4: tight end makes sense, wide receiver makes sense, which we

1016
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 4: were kind of in the spot where I was trying

1017
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 4: to give me golden to everybody. But in hindsight, now

1018
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 4: that the dust is settled, this pick does make sense.

1019
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: It does, and it's a larger point that we can

1020
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: mention now. The premium to acquire offensive lineman now in

1021
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: the draft and in free agency would indicate that it's

1022
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: the hardest position other than quarterback to fill period.

1023
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 3: Like yeah, that.

1024
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: There's not to me. Before you could have made the

1025
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: argument that edge and at times cornerback like what's valued.

1026
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: It's like, no, the NFL is telling us by how

1027
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: much they are pushing up all these guys and they're

1028
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: just so desperate that the only chance you can find

1029
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 1: good ones is if these guys all go earlier, because

1030
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: if you look at the consensus board, which is like

1031
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: the average of all these big boards, even Danna Jeremiaes boards,

1032
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: like these guys are getting pushed up so much higher

1033
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: than expected every draft. You just saw it with Kelvin

1034
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: Banks going right. You saw it with Campbell in some way,

1035
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: but you definitely see with Banks and Booker, who we

1036
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 1: were talking about, maybe the Texans will be choosing between

1037
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: them at twenty five. Yeah, good luck. They went at

1038
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: nine to twelve.

1039
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 3: And again, he's a guard? Are we good to talk

1040
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 3: about guards here?

1041
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: Guards are cool?

1042
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 3: Okay?

1043
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: I decid, don't want to hear that he's a tackle

1044
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: and then so what.

1045
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 3: Kick him inside the guard? Because what are defense doing?

1046
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 2: And we're talking about hybrids right, We're talking about all

1047
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 2: these defensive players who can do this in that the

1048
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 2: double A gap blitz, all the stuff coming up to

1049
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 2: the A gap to try to get and face of

1050
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 2: these quarterbacks. Guards are people too, greg.

1051
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: They drafted a Hall of Famer Zach Martin who just retired.

1052
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 3: You know what they're doing here.

1053
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: They deserve the benefit of the doubt drafting offensive lineman.

1054
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: They hit with Tyler Smith a few years ago, who

1055
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: they're going to want to resign if.

1056
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 3: You folks thought that was a huge reach for right

1057
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 3: at the.

1058
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: Time, people thought that was a strong great point. Tok.

1059
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: Tyler Booker last year, which is just a TVD. I

1060
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: don't put anything into his rookie year. He was a

1061
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: developmental guy. They knew he was going to take some time.

1062
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: We'll see if he turns out to be their left

1063
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: tackle in the future. And now they got their third

1064
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: Tyler Tyler Booker. Kenneth Grant was up next for the Colts.

1065
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: I mean for the Dolphins, rather huge need one. I

1066
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: think their fan base maybe saw coming that they literally

1067
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: have no defensive tackles on their roster, so it was

1068
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: a little bit of just like they had to take one,

1069
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: and they had no run stoppers on the roster. I

1070
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: think they expected to bring back Kalais Campbell, and even

1071
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: if they had Kalais Campbell, they almost had no defensive

1072
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 1: tackles on the roster then and then they lost them,

1073
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: and so they take a guy in Kenneth Grant, who

1074
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: I liked a lot when I watched him. I mean,

1075
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: there just aren't many guys that big that can move

1076
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 1: the way he moves. He's going to be a run

1077
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: stopper who maybe becomes a good, you know, third down

1078
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: guy as well. Eventually, let's go on to fifteen and

1079
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: let's talk about the two Falcons picks. Yeah, okay, we'll

1080
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: combine him. The Falcons are sitting there at fifteen, and

1081
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: they get a hit for Daniel Jeremiah in they're in

1082
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: his mock draft. Jalen Walker, who was rumored to maybe

1083
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: be as high as the fourth or fifth pick in

1084
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: this draft, ends up falling to fifteen. Little bit of

1085
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: a hybrid but probably gonna be just an edge rusher

1086
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: primarily in Atlanta. And they get a big time pass rusher,

1087
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: and then late in the night, the twenty sixth overall pick,

1088
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: the Falcons trade back into the first round to take

1089
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: James Pierce, a very divisive pass rusher from Tennessee. So

1090
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: they try to address their pass rush problem with two

1091
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 1: picks in the first round, but it costs a lot

1092
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: to get it. They gave up a first round pick

1093
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: next year to the Rams. The Rams are now rooting

1094
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: for the Falcons downfall all year because they got their

1095
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: first round pick. The Rams also get the number forty

1096
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: six overall pick in this class, a deep class man

1097
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: that was a big price to pay to get James Pierce,

1098
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: a guy that most teams I don't think loved. But

1099
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: he also was a tracy, toolsy guy with some production.

1100
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: So there betty on a home run.

1101
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 2: Look for a team that just avoided edge rushers for

1102
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 2: the Plague, a team I used to cover. Right when

1103
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: they traded for John abraham Er, they got him free.

1104
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 2: I think they traded for the Jets. He's the last

1105
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 2: true consistent edge rusher they have had that's like twenty years.

1106
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 2: That is a vacuum of not putting pressure on quarterbacks.

1107
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 2: So now they too scoop it like I don't like

1108
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 2: them giving up a twenty six first round draft pick.

1109
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 3: I did they have to do that.

1110
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 2: They must have felt that maybe Baltimore or somebody was

1111
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 2: going to get our Detroit.

1112
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 1: He was going to go at some Detroit. He was

1113
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 1: probably going in the top thirty five picks. I had

1114
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: to move up correct. So that's what they probably had

1115
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: to get ahead of Detroit. That's probably where he was.

1116
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: They felt he was going to go right Detroit picked

1117
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: at twenty seven. So they go ahead and did it

1118
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 1: because to me, it's a feeling of we got to

1119
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:44,439
Speaker 1: win this year.

1120
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 2: We got to get to the quarterback this year because

1121
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 2: I'm going to sacrifice the first round pick because I

1122
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 2: might not be drafted not anymore to use these picks

1123
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 2: if we don't get this right. So to double up,

1124
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 2: you get two edge rushers on rookie contracts. Raheem Morris

1125
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 2: very much trush him. Jeff Aulbrick is his new defensive coordinator.

1126
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 2: Guy's very, very good at what he can do down there,

1127
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 2: especially with defensive front of Caden Ellis, who I continue

1128
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 2: to say the most underrated defensive player. Look up a

1129
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 2: pressure on a quarterback from the inside spot. They've got

1130
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 2: some opportunities there, but you better be locker room player,

1131
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 2: accountability strong to ask a lot of two young edge

1132
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 2: rushers to give.

1133
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: You well, it's interesting. DJ made a great point on

1134
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: the on the telecast of that Jalen Walker can be

1135
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 1: to their defense what Michael Pennix is to their offense.

1136
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: He was I thought a guy that Patriots might take

1137
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 1: because I thought he fit that mold of Will Campbell.

1138
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: Uh the intangibles are you hear about right off the

1139
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: bat and look, his strength is his power Like he's

1140
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: an exciting player. He kind of reminds me a little

1141
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 1: bit of like a beefed up Caden Ellis, like, it's

1142
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: going to be interesting. How they got a little you know,

1143
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: Zach bond to like he'll be a fascinating guy, whereas

1144
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: James Pearson is a total opposite a guy that people

1145
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: were worried about. You were talking about the guys who

1146
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: were mentioned about motor. James Pearce is maybe that guy

1147
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: or maybe just like a not a natural instincts football

1148
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 1: player but just has a lot of speed but doesn't

1149
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: really know how to play football. That that well, it

1150
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: was kind of the knock on him, and so they're

1151
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: an interesting combination. But man like Fonto's been there since

1152
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan was there. You can think that this is

1153
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 1: like early in their rebuild. It's year two of Pennoxy

1154
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: or two of Raheem Morris. But Fonto has been there

1155
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: a while. He needs some results, and to me, he

1156
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: went full Mickey Loomis. He just picked a guy that

1157
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 1: he wants that has some traits and he's like, I'm

1158
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: going to get him no matter what it costs. I'm

1159
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: going to just trust my evaluation and you better be right.

1160
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, clearly they were prioritizing edge. I didn't like that

1161
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 4: they announced Jalen Walker as a defensive end. Oh that's all. Yeah,

1162
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 4: I know his hand size for a linebacker. Maybe they're

1163
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 4: projecting his frame is going to get a little bit

1164
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,720
Speaker 4: bigger as things go wrong. And also his role where

1165
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 4: and really there's a dichotomy between Pierce and Walker where

1166
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 4: you have the circumstances of the defense and Georgia having

1167
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 4: all of this depth and talent, Walkers being asked to

1168
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 4: do all of these different things, and James Pearce was

1169
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,959
Speaker 4: in a goreek havoc just.

1170
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 3: Go fly off the edge where maybe.

1171
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 4: They both kind of meld into into a similar circumstance

1172
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 4: where they're on either edge of the line for years

1173
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,720
Speaker 4: in Atlanta, and you know, for Terry and the folks

1174
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,479
Speaker 4: who've been waiting for that edge to get to, like.

1175
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: You never want to go full Loomis though, but here

1176
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: the last thing by the way for people who are

1177
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: just joining you, Like, I don't know why everyone would

1178
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: know the history no long time was with the New

1179
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints matter, that was where he was forever.

1180
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 2: But Rahiem Morris had something to do with this as well,

1181
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 2: because he probably saw what he did with Byron Young.

1182
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 2: Somebody a third round draft pick defensive end out of Tennessee.

1183
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 2: Some is a body type of walker who's turned into

1184
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 2: a hell of a player for the Rams. Okay, then

1185
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 2: they go out and they get a physical guys Jared

1186
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 2: Verse last year as a rook who comes in and

1187
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 2: reach havoc as well. Now they've got some studs on

1188
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 2: the inside. Atlanta's not quite there yet, but raheem Morris's

1189
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 2: ability to create things to get those guys going.

1190
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 1: We also heard rap Sheet start the broadcast by saying, hey,

1191
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,240
Speaker 1: right now, they're just planning on having Kirk Cousins actually

1192
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 1: that he could really be their backup. He was at work, euse,

1193
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: we'll see where we're at at the end of this process.

1194
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: Just just wanted to throw that out there. I'm not

1195
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: sure if I totally believe that. I think it was

1196
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: also the Falcons had to give the draft graders out

1197
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 1: there some red meat. I felt like this like this

1198
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: other than me, like people could get on the Browns.

1199
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: I guess a little bit for trading out for Hunter,

1200
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 1: but it felt like it was tough to really criticize

1201
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: too much in this pack. And then the Falcons for

1202
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: the second straight year. Gave it to people. Last year,

1203
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: I really defended the Falcons. I said, I think it's

1204
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,439
Speaker 1: okay that you drafted Michael Pennox and what you gave

1205
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: up for quarterback is everything, and you don't know what

1206
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: you're gonna get out of Cousins. I think that worked

1207
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 1: out well for them. Frankly, the Cousins thing didn't, but

1208
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: I think it worked out well. This I'm not going

1209
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: to defend. Let's go to our next pick. I'm all

1210
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 1: mixed up here and talk about my guy, Walter Nolan.

1211
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: The search bar now has some players the Cardinals defense,

1212
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: so Walter Nolan, the old Miss defensive tackle, Ghost Arism.

1213
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 4: And another player that goes on our motor Motivation watch list,

1214
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 4: where there was a lot of that discussion where I

1215
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 4: literally was trying to figure out what it was what

1216
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 4: Walter Nolan did to run a foul of in it.

1217
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 3: Apparently I think it's a shape transfer. He was put

1218
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 3: from one place to another, which is apparently a crime.

1219
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: I agree with you Patrick that it's fair to be

1220
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: skeptical of the whisper campaigns that go out in terms

1221
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: of motivation and things like that, but that stuff does

1222
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: matter and I think where it ends up mattering the

1223
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: most is where you can see it on film. And

1224
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: I think when you watched Walter Nolan's film, if you

1225
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: took the top twenty five plays of his film, I

1226
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: think he goes top four in this class. I think

1227
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: he's probably the best defensive player, literally the best. Like

1228
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: he's Albert Haynesworth. He looks like Albert Haynesworth. Y're Chris

1229
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: Jones or something, but similar to Chris Jones falling, like

1230
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 1: you just see him, according to people I talked to,

1231
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: but I watched it too, like you just see him

1232
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: just kind of just out there sometimes, and it was

1233
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: a little unpredictable. He'll take over a series and then

1234
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: he'll just disappear and like not give great effort, and

1235
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: so you're trying to figure out the reasons why that is.

1236
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: But I personally loved him and was hoping like he

1237
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: would go high, and he ended up going pretty high.

1238
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 3: We heard me talk about player accountability a lot of people.

1239
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 2: You can coach this guy, those players, and I've noticed,

1240
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 2: especially interior defensive players, if you don't have dudes around him.

1241
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 2: Like when I say dudes, dudes, we're like, no, no,

1242
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 2: we don't do that here. You bust your tail on

1243
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 2: every play and everything you do. If you don't have

1244
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 2: those guys around him, they're going to fall back into

1245
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 2: that muscle memory. So I hope he doesn't do that,

1246
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 2: but I have just seen that too many times in

1247
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 2: all of my years, and again with it over and

1248
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:58,959
Speaker 2: over with defensive interior guys.

1249
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: I think Jonathan, though, is a good coach for him

1250
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: in that he's good at getting guys who can play

1251
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: multiple positions. Nolan's going to be a penetrator, but he

1252
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: can be really flexible, like of course I'm giving the

1253
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: highest of highest possible outcomes, but I think, like Chris Jones,

1254
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: I think you could use him in the way that

1255
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: that the Chiefs used Chris Jones, where he's inside, he's outside.

1256
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: He's that type of player, and so I think that's

1257
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: the right defense for him. Shamar Stewart is a guy

1258
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: you would never question his motor, uh Patrick, I don't

1259
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: think anyone but nobody did. Nobody did. I think he

1260
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: was in such an interesting prospect because he didn't have

1261
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: the sack production, but the physical traits were just out

1262
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: of this world. And the Bengals love guys like that,

1263
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: and he was known as a guy who's like the

1264
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: effort was through the roof, like Jalen Walker, where like

1265
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: he never cheated you for effort at I at all.

1266
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: Really intense and one of the guys in this class

1267
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: that I thought had the best performance on the stage

1268
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: and just the intense.

1269
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, well kill Roger Goodell. I mean he went and

1270
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 3: hugged him and his arms are like eight feet long,

1271
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 3: and I think he did the double wrap straight jacket

1272
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 3: on him.

1273
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 4: And and then Jamie had to rescue the interview because

1274
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 4: he didn't he was either so juiced up or perhaps

1275
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:20,439
Speaker 4: upset about the weight he was heated, doesn't like you know,

1276
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 4: spaghetti chili like either way, like something was going on.

1277
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: He you could feel like a cauldron of energy inside.

1278
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: He was not okay, needed to be let out. And

1279
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: that actually made me really like him.

1280
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 3: You know.

1281
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I want I don't not want

1282
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: to go against that guy. I don't want to.

1283
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 3: Everyone was just like, oh, you know, he maybe get

1284
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 3: the eventual place for Trey Hendrickson. Maybe.

1285
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 2: Remember they lost Sam Hubbard, who was an evert guy

1286
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 2: on the other side, who was a seven or eight

1287
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 2: sack kind of career guy each year. But he was disruptive,

1288
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 2: and that's the one thing you hear about short. He's disruptive, disruptive, disruptive.

1289
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 2: If you can disrupt enough for this division, that's enough

1290
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 2: for Trey Hendrickson and maybe some other guys because his

1291
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 2: defense only needs to be okay. Yeah right, And this

1292
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 2: is a really good start.

1293
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: It was a position they really needed to fill. It's

1294
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: a little bit of a boomer best guy. He's a

1295
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 1: little close to me in profile, to Miles Murphy who

1296
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: hasn't worked out for them. No, sort of similar to

1297
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: Sam Hubbard in a in a weird way in that

1298
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 1: like good player, not a lot of sack production like that.

1299
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: That was the actually heck, that was Trey Hendrickson's rep

1300
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: coming out of college and it took him a little

1301
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 1: while and then he turned into an incredible, incredible.

1302
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 4: But Trey Hendrickson is the guy that if he gets

1303
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 4: twenty pressures, he'll get sacks on sixteen of them versus

1304
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 4: Sjamar Stewart was getting pressures all over.

1305
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 3: The place, but wasn't getting the quarterback down.

1306
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: Shout out to the chat who wants to know am

1307
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: I related to Ken Rosenthal? Oh, I've been getting that

1308
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: question on social media for my entire career. No, Rosenthal

1309
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: very common name among the Jews, and we're both dominion diminutive,

1310
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: and we're both sports superstars and we're getting it done.

1311
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 1: So shout out to Ken Rosendal. Never met him, but

1312
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: it seems like a really nice guy working over there

1313
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: for Fox. Uh. Let's move on the eighteenth pick the

1314
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. I think we got this pick. Jordan hit it.

1315
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: We we agreed on it, but Jordan got it right

1316
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: when we we did it in our mock. I don't

1317
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: think we got many picks right, but we had Gray's Abel. Uh.

1318
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremia's favorite player in the draft. You gotta love

1319
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: with your team drafts Daniel Jeremia's favorite player in.

1320
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 3: The draft because he was seen a Bowl superstar.

1321
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: And and that he fits like an awesome need for them.

1322
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: I think so that was absolutely that was need matchup.

1323
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 2: Screaming need he can go anywhere.

1324
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: I thought they I thought they might go wide receiver

1325
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 1: there because Buka was on on the the clock, he

1326
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: was available and and Matthew Golden was as well. The

1327
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 1: Bucks end up taking a Meika and Buka surprising and

1328
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: this was where I just give it up to Jason

1329
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: Light At this point, I see the vision. You weren't

1330
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 1: a bigg Buka fan Patrick in the process. You just

1331
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: thought maybe it was some some like Jersey scouting that

1332
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: he was getting a little overrated, because.

1333
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 3: Well, I do think there was some Jersey scout. I

1334
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 3: just didn't.

1335
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 4: I liked a couple of prospects more than Agbuka. But

1336
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 4: this is a good spot. But it feels like the

1337
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 4: rich getting richer potentially, like at this position where I'm

1338
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 4: not sure how much of an ad to an offense

1339
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 4: that was scoring a billion points anyway, almost at will

1340
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 4: what we're doing, unless it's a long term type deal,

1341
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 4: which I guess could go.

1342
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: The way receivers are paid now. Wide receiver rookie contracts

1343
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: are really valuable that first round you have him under

1344
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: control for five years. I mean, Chris Godwin and Mike

1345
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 1: Evans are incredible. They do not have five years left.

1346
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: They might not have three years left with the Bucks,

1347
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 1: so it's a long term play. Godwin's coming off a

1348
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 1: really serious injury, so it's also a short and you.

1349
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 2: Know Mikevis, like you said, he's he's in the twilight

1350
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 2: of his career. You can't sit there and say these

1351
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 2: guys are going to be there for us all the time.

1352
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 2: With God, the Niners got themselves boxed in by not

1353
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 2: replenishing at a lot of positions. And I think that's

1354
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 2: what the Bucks have done. They've drafted offensive lineman when

1355
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 2: a team they didn't need a draft offensive lineman. They've

1356
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 2: drafted interior defensive line focus and it hasn't seen it

1357
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 2: and it's worked.

1358
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: And they, like some of our friends that we had

1359
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: on NFL Daily, Dohn Ledyard, Olie Connolly, I was listening,

1360
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: they ended up in the end the more they watched

1361
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 1: in Buka, they put him up there ahead like it

1362
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: or right with Ted McMillan and Matthew Gold. And I

1363
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 1: think he saw differently the feel that you were getting

1364
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 1: from reporters and kind of around where teams had all

1365
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: different rankings for these receivers, and some teams really loved

1366
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 1: Agbuka as like a true top fifteen pick. The idea

1367
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: coming into tonight, we talked about it before it even started,

1368
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: was like, he's not getting out of the top fifteen

1369
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: to twenty, and he didn't, So the Bucks take him.

1370
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: They build strength on strength. The Broncos surprise everyone. They

1371
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 1: don't go running back, they don't go wide receiver. They

1372
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 1: go Today Baron and that defense Vance Joseph is set

1373
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 1: up for a monster season. That is a wild defense

1374
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,439
Speaker 1: the Broncos are building. But I am surprised they didn't

1375
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 1: add a weapon for Bonick Patrick. This might be my

1376
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: favorite pick of the first really. I love it because

1377
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 1: this is a guy. He's got a nose for the ball.

1378
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 1: When he gets his hands on the ball, he's dangerous.

1379
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 1: You know, Rod Woods in the Hall of Famers always

1380
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 1: like the most dangerous defender is a defender with his

1381
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: hands on the ball who can make a play. He's

1382
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 1: that type of guy.

1383
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 2: Right, So you've got Certain on one corner, Riley Moss

1384
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 2: on the other corner, he's probably going to be in

1385
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 2: a slot, right. They added tano Hu Funga as strong safety.

1386
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 2: This is a defense that already like it.

1387
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 1: They've made it moreloaded, and now they're loading it up again.

1388
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 1: They are not playing they they I think, are just

1389
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 1: speaking truth when it's just best player. I think when

1390
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: a pick like this happens. First of all, they're looking

1391
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 1: at running back of wide receiver. Two positions that are

1392
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 1: deep can we get a running back that we like

1393
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: in the third round, can we get a wide receiver

1394
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 1: we like in the second round. Maybe they feel that's

1395
01:04:56,320 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 1: the case, or maybe they feel like Jeremiah, who had

1396
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: Baron as his ninth player at points in this process,

1397
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: and when the Broncos went up to pick, was just

1398
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 1: easily the highest player on his board, and I'm sure

1399
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: he was in the Broncos board too, and they're just like,

1400
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: we got to trust like that. We think this guy

1401
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 1: is a special Cooper Degine type of guy. That's who

1402
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: DJ competed.

1403
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the comp to Cooper to Gene and

1404
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 3: I love it. I think it makes it.

1405
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 4: And Steve mentioned the way that he plays on the ball,

1406
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 4: and they'll be back. They'll be back on the clock

1407
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 4: at fifty one, well with a chance to get that back.

1408
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 4: And I don't necessarily ascribe to the knowledge to the

1409
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 4: logic of oh, well you can get a good running

1410
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 4: back anywhere.

1411
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, if the if the guy is.

1412
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: Good, I mean in this class, it seems like it,

1413
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 1: or at least they'll trust their evaluation. It seems like

1414
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: you will be able to get a good chance at

1415
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 1: a running back. Later. The Steelers pick next, they had

1416
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 1: Derek Harmon from Oregon pass rushing defensive tackle top D

1417
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 1: tackle on the board. They were getting a little older

1418
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 1: in terms of their defensive line, although it's still very good.

1419
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 1: But to get a tackle, yeah, they needed a D tackle,

1420
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 1: maybe an eventual Cam Hayward replacement, although a different type

1421
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: of defensive tackle, but he fits in. I hadn't heard.

1422
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to think about Harmon in the process.

1423
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 1: A lot of different opinions on him. But if the

1424
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 1: Steelers are into him, I kind of trust what they do.

1425
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: When it comes to the front seven. Then the Chargers

1426
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 1: come on the board. And our friend Gavin, who's working

1427
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 1: on the show tonight, big Chargers fan, didn't want Omarion

1428
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: Hampton when we put him on the team. In the

1429
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 1: mock draft, we drafted Amari and Hampton, and Gavin gave

1430
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: us a big thumbs no thumbs down, rather in the

1431
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 1: back and you know who they take, Amarion Hampton. I

1432
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 1: like Sho I like the combo the UNC running back.

1433
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 1: Give Justin Herbert some juice, let's watch some offense.

1434
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 4: And I like getting an explosive player. I would like

1435
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 4: an explosive player that Justin Herbert can throw the ball

1436
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 4: to and so it's not necessarily a critique of Omarion Hampton,

1437
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 4: who is, yeah, to me, the second best back in

1438
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 4: the draft. You get him in a good spot. But

1439
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 4: there were options to make the offense in total more

1440
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 4: explosive and not have it be the all lad show.

1441
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 4: And I think we're gear into it's another season of

1442
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 4: just its lad and and pray to God we can.

1443
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 1: Help tell you know, there's there's round two, there's round three.

1444
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 1: Let's let's not.

1445
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 2: Say they had to get some pop out of the

1446
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 2: backfield they had. I mean, Najie Harris is just not

1447
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 2: you know, he's your physical.

1448
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 1: He's a one Maury Hampton's a guy to build a

1449
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 1: round and shout out to again Jeremiah who if you

1450
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 1: were listening to our our show on running backs with

1451
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 1: the Maury's Jones, Drew and Jeremiah. He put Hampton on

1452
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: the Chargers. He thought that sort of explosiveness you get,

1453
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,439
Speaker 1: you get your big pop guy, you get your chain

1454
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 1: moving guy in Harris, and they just need to add

1455
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 1: some speed anywhere. I thought they would take Matthew Golden,

1456
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 1: but I'm kind of happy they didn't because then the

1457
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 1: Packers got to take him twenty third overall. It gave

1458
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 1: a great moment of him taking their first receiver in

1459
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 1: a long time. Why am I I'm spoiling it. Let's

1460
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 1: let's listen to Mark Murphy, the the outgoing UH team

1461
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 1: president of the Packers, with.

1462
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 2: A twenty third pick in the twenty twenty five NFL.

1463
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 1: Draft, the thirteen time world champion Green.

1464
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 3: Bay Packers for the first time since two.

1465
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 4: Thousand two, raft a wide receiver.

1466
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:20,759
Speaker 3: Listen to this crowd. Oh baby, Matthew Golden whye resaver

1467
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 3: Texas And he's here, And he's here.

1468
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 1: That was great.

1469
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 3: That was great.

1470
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 1: And then when he came out and uh, just just

1471
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: the crowd pop and his jacket and just everything about it.

1472
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 1: You could tell from him it was a tough night waiting,

1473
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 1: waiting that long, but then the payoff to get there

1474
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: and get on a great team.

1475
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he couls go to play with Jordan Love when

1476
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 2: and then Matt Lafleur won the great offensive play callers,

1477
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 2: play schemers, and.

1478
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,719
Speaker 3: It's a really talented receiving group.

1479
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's funny. It feels like they have

1480
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 1: like he fits right in with another guy, Like I

1481
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 1: think he could be the best among the maybe the

1482
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 1: most complete if he ends up being I think everything

1483
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 1: that he can be. But it's almost like they have

1484
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 1: like five number two receivers, you know what I mean,

1485
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: maybe all those two threes that do different things. That's

1486
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 1: kind of who he is. But I think he's probably

1487
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 1: a little more complete if I really think about it,

1488
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 1: than anyone in that room. They all have something they

1489
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 1: do well. But when I see Golden, to me, he

1490
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 1: is almost a prototypical like one two that the guy

1491
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 1: like a better version of maybe a Jordan Addison I'm

1492
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 1: trying to think of, like a good conference but a

1493
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: guy that can do it. A Maconkey if he really

1494
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:37,719
Speaker 1: worked out at the highest of high levels.

1495
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's a player with explosiveness where we don't know,

1496
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 4: like week eight nine, if Christian Watson is going to

1497
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 4: be able to be white by that point, and we know,

1498
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 4: considering the history, the all of the conversation about who's

1499
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 4: the one, everything, the Packers have done extensive work on

1500
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 4: this and to make this pick at this point with

1501
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 4: this player, I think we we know that Green Bay

1502
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 4: is going to utilize Matthew Golden, Yes, in a way

1503
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 4: that's different where I love we will know that that

1504
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 4: he is the.

1505
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 1: One Fantasy owners won't love it because it's just got

1506
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: to be like.

1507
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 2: But as Mark Morpher pointed out, they went first round

1508
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 2: picked with him.

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01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 3: They haven't done that in two thousand and two, right, So.

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01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 1: Shout out to Mark Murphy. I never I never knew

1511
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: until tonight that he was a former All Pro All

1512
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 1: Pro safety, I mean in All Pro Safety team president

1513
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:35,440
Speaker 1: and uh shout out to the Packers for the mandated

1514
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 1: age limits for their executive roles that he has to

1515
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: leave his job because he's turning something. No slight to

1516
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 1: Mark Murphy. I'm just saying that makes sense to me

1517
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 1: a big time you know positions. Maybe maybe you shouldn't

1518
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 1: just have their forever.

1519
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 3: Just saying.

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01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 1: Donovan Jackson was the pick at guard to the Vikings,

1521
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 1: one of the I wouldn't say. It wasn't like a

1522
01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 1: total shock that he went first round, but not a

1523
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 1: guy people were talking a lot, but people loved him.

1524
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 1: He was a guy I was hoping would get to

1525
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 1: the Patriots, maybe the second round guard. They took their

1526
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 1: guard in the first five picks, but they really better

1527
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: get over that. They bet on offensive lineman.

1528
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 3: I hope he turns out to be a studler.

1529
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 1: Now I do too. It's a no lose situation for me.

1530
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 1: They bet big on offensive linemen like in free agency,

1531
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,959
Speaker 1: and they did it. Uh here it's a three interior

1532
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 1: offensive lineman for the Vikings.

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01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 4: I can't get over like, I don't know Will Campbell

1534
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 4: going to the Hall of Fame versus Greg being right,

1535
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 4: those two are.

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01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 1: Either way. Either way, I have good. We already talked

1537
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 1: about the Giants at twenty five getting Jackson Dart will

1538
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 1: be talking about that all off season, and the Falcons

1539
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 1: and how they traded back in. So the Ravens were

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01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 1: up next.

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01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 3: It was just it's just destiny every track.

1542
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 1: They get Malachi Starks, the safety that that falls too far,

1543
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 1: and that's what the Ravens do. There is something it

1544
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: is kind of funny that all the money that you

1545
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 1: spend on everything and Scouty and and everything that goes

1546
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 1: into it, and yet the Ravens and the Eagles, who

1547
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 1: are the two best at it, they kind of go

1548
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 1: off the consensus board more than anyone. They kind of

1549
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:12,720
Speaker 1: take the guy that's falling every time and it works out.

1550
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 3: Really, it's just the perfect fit for what they do.

1551
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 2: Like the Ravens like they've got Kyle Hamilton, arkably the

1552
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 2: best safety in the NFL. R Darius Washington, who's a

1553
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 2: hell of a safety filling came in and played like ten.

1554
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:25,639
Speaker 3: It was great.

1555
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:28,759
Speaker 2: And now they get Malachi Starks. Now maybe Ardarius Washington

1556
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 2: can move into the slot where they move Marlon Humphrey,

1557
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 2: you know last year out of necessity. So that's second.

1558
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like, are you happy as a.

1559
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 4: Like Steve mentioned, the moves in the secondary were out

1560
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,719
Speaker 4: of necessity. There was an open revolt at the safety

1561
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 4: position non Kyle Hamilton early on where he didn't know

1562
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 4: what who was going to be armfield and then Kyle

1563
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 4: has to come and play first. I mean, he can

1564
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 4: play anywhere, but having him go back to his natural

1565
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 4: position where they've there's always a couple of like there's

1566
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 4: that guy on the Kirby Smart defense and now they've

1567
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 4: got two of them where Malachi was that guy and

1568
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 4: Rokuan was that guy, and they get.

1569
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 1: To my only, my only caution for you and for

1570
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 1: Ravens fans out there, A it is just tough to

1571
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 1: come in in the secondary right away and play in

1572
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 1: the NFL like you're hoping to be average as a rookie,

1573
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 1: if your average as a rookie, you're getting somewhere that

1574
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:27,680
Speaker 1: is not an easy defense to pick up. That's not

1575
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: an easy position to pick up for the Ravens and stuff.

1576
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 1: Nate Wiggins like is a good example last year who

1577
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 1: taken around the same spot at a cornerback for the Ravens.

1578
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be excited about him moving forward,

1579
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: but it you can't expect him to be caught. Not

1580
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 1: everyone's Kyle Hamilton. It's all I'm saying. So if in

1581
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 1: two years he's like a plus safety, I think that

1582
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. And that is what will

1583
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 1: happen right away. Like it's just it's difficult to come

1584
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 1: in right away and like be a huge impact.

1585
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 3: I think he's he's protected quite well.

1586
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 2: Okaya, Quin Mitchell and Cooper Degeni will poop all over

1587
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 2: your coming to make impact.

1588
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:01,639
Speaker 3: Is a rookie deep By.

1589
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 1: The way, Detroit Lions probably take the most surprising first

1590
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 1: round pick on the night, although Tyleek Williams from Ohio

1591
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 1: State was getting more buzz as the draft process went along,

1592
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 1: and he has a preposterous highlight reel. I didn't go

1593
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: back and watch TYLERK. Williams other than just his highlight reel.

1594
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:23,719
Speaker 1: I mean he is massive. He is how NFL players

1595
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 1: used to be in the nineteen seventies and eighties, like three.

1596
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,640
Speaker 1: They list him at three forty. I don't believe it.

1597
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 1: He is like three sixty That's what I think he is,

1598
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 1: and six two sixty three and moves pretty well and

1599
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 1: stuffs the run. And he's like the Bill Parcells planet theory.

1600
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 1: There are not many people on the planet that can

1601
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 1: move like Tyler Williams. So even though he was surprised

1602
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 1: to go in the first round, it's like, oh, yeah,

1603
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 1: the Lions took a guy like that. That kind of

1604
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:49,640
Speaker 1: makes sense to me.

1605
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 3: I mean it's like your famous New England pages, no sackle.

1606
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm blanked will Fork Vince Wilfork right, but he's

1607
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 2: he's refrigerator Parry right when you talk about kind of shorter,

1608
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 2: squa hyper athletic, and he fits the Detroit Lions. They've

1609
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 2: got some nice players at defensive tackle, but they've got

1610
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 2: to get started of the middle because they know what's

1611
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 2: coming in that division and they're seeing the way, you know,

1612
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 2: everybody else is kind of building to match what they've

1613
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 2: done on the line to scrimmage.

1614
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 1: That's a great that's a great point. It's almost like

1615
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 1: they have to defend what they have started. We talked

1616
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 1: about the bike right, This run thing and comparing him

1617
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 1: to to Will Fork is interesting too. Like I think

1618
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 1: early on the ideal will the idea I think will

1619
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,759
Speaker 1: be if he can be a great run stopper, that's

1620
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 1: that's the plan, and then in time he could become

1621
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 1: a pass rusher like Vince was coming out of Miami,

1622
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 1: one of my favorite all time prospects. Amazing that he felt.

1623
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 1: Where did he fall to in the draft fourteen or twenty?

1624
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, the best, the best defensive player, well, one of

1625
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 4: the best defensive players and one of the best teams

1626
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 4: of all time.

1627
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 1: Right fall made no sense. Put him in the Hall

1628
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 1: of Fame. Eventually, Josh Connery again, we could talk about

1629
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 1: with Donovan Jackson and every single offensive lineman got got taken.

1630
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 1: Josh connor Ley and Oregon tackle, everyone got taken earlier

1631
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 1: than expected. He goes to Washington, Everyone including me, thought

1632
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 1: they'd go edge rusher there, but they certainly need another

1633
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:13,599
Speaker 1: long term tackle with Laramie Tunsel there. Maybe connor Lee

1634
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 1: is at right tackle or maybe he's at left guard

1635
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 1: for now, had his big supporters. I listened to the

1636
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 1: Nate Tice Mike Tys podcast and he was Mike Tyson's

1637
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 1: OT one in the entire class. And that's a man

1638
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,759
Speaker 1: who coached up offensive lineman very well in the NFL

1639
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:30,640
Speaker 1: for a long time, and he thought Connor Lee had

1640
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 1: the most potential of any player in this class. So

1641
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:36,879
Speaker 1: interesting pick by the Commanders. The Bills take Maxwell Harriston.

1642
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 1: We're getting ready to go on and do this so

1643
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 1: our producer Eric couldn't even watch it. But the cornerback

1644
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 1: that everyone kind of thought was gonna go to the Packers,

1645
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 1: Speedster runs that four.

1646
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:50,759
Speaker 3: To two Kentucky great ball skills.

1647
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 1: You're read a four to two at the Combaine. You're

1648
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 1: going in the first round apparently.

1649
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1650
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 2: I mean, look and they know what they know what

1651
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 2: they have to do to get to a super Bowl.

1652
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 2: I mean, you got to stop the eight Flowers of

1653
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 2: the world. You've got to stop those receivers in Cincinnati.

1654
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 1: I'm having kayri Elam flashbacks only because he was taken

1655
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 1: at the end of the first round and he was

1656
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 1: a combine night and they had a massive need for

1657
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 1: it. It was the same situation. Hopefully it works out better.

1658
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:17,680
Speaker 4: I think they have a better idea of the way

1659
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 4: they're going to use Maxwell Harriston.

1660
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 1: It felt there and then the final two picks of

1661
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 1: the night, and we still have some other things after

1662
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 1: we go through the picks, but they were just so

1663
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 1: typical for the team, so perfect. The Chiefs trade up

1664
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 1: or trade back one spot with the Eagles. So the

1665
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 1: Eagles either thinking someone could trade up there, maybe the

1666
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 1: Chiefs were saying so, or the Eagles were just worried

1667
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 1: that the Chiefs were going to take Jahad Campbell actually

1668
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 1: give up a fifth round pick, not much but something

1669
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 1: to move up one spot and take Jahad Campbell, who

1670
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 1: Jordan and I had him getting taken in the top ten.

1671
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 1: DJ had him over all of his players in his

1672
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:58,639
Speaker 1: top twelve. A guy I really love watching off ball

1673
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 1: linebacker from Alabai, had really serious medical concerns he might

1674
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 1: miss the start of the season because of the shoulder surgery.

1675
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 1: And maybe there's a little more long term people are

1676
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 1: worried about more than just like is he going to

1677
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 1: get ready for Week one? He ends up falling. Very

1678
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 1: typical Eagles move. Take the guy who's falling more than

1679
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 1: anyone else that has a ton of talent, and oh,

1680
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 1: by the way, is from like Alabama or one of

1681
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:24,679
Speaker 1: the massive SEC schools. Pretty awesome.

1682
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 3: It's just so Eagles, you know.

1683
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 2: But that's what you can do when you have that

1684
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 2: amount of riches, right, you can take a risk on

1685
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 2: a player, develop them like they've done with so many

1686
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 2: other guys, if he doesn't have to play for a year,

1687
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:38,680
Speaker 2: and have him come in and be an impact contributor.

1688
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 1: So that again, we made some beautiful graphics if you're watching.

1689
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:47,679
Speaker 1: So we got through twenty one to thirty the picks

1690
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 1: there like a lot of offensive linemen and stuff. We

1691
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 1: get to Jahad Cammel and then we wrap up with

1692
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 1: Josh Simmons, is the final pick, one that was mocked

1693
01:18:56,560 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 1: pretty commonly to the Kansas City Chiefs. H ends up

1694
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 1: just being one pick later than everyone expected.

1695
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 4: And I think what Andy Reid said tonight after the

1696
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:11,799
Speaker 4: draft was that if not for the ptel attendant injury,

1697
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 4: Josh Simmons would have been gone in the top ten

1698
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 4: and the Chiefs would have never even had the opportunity,

1699
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 4: I think, and plenty of folks right who've had an

1700
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 4: ACL repair they harvest the pateeller tendon. It's a very

1701
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 4: often used piece of piece of human that goes to

1702
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 4: fix another piece of human where I don't think there's

1703
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 4: that much concern about Josh Simmons long term, and it's

1704
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 4: a great spot.

1705
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know though attendants it's more than an

1706
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 1: acl is.

1707
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:45,720
Speaker 2: I guess it takes longer you typically to recover from the.

1708
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, because the injury can be so traumatic and you've

1709
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 4: got to find material from somewhere to go there. But

1710
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 4: if the medical grade is good, like on film, he

1711
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 4: goes before these other offensive lineman out of a state.

1712
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of people that would

1713
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 1: tell you if he stayed healthy and played the way

1714
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 1: he played for the first few games, because the first

1715
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,640
Speaker 1: few games of the season, I think he showed a

1716
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 1: level with that got him drafted tonight that maybe people

1717
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 1: didn't totally see on tape the year, you know, before

1718
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 1: he developed like like a lot of players do. If

1719
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 1: he played like that all year, I think he's fourth

1720
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 1: overall to the Patriots tonight because he's he's that guy.

1721
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 1: He's the prototype of what you look for in an

1722
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 1: athletic tackle, and he looked dominant and looked like a

1723
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 1: really you know, smart and talented player. So the Chiefs

1724
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 1: they get a potential future left tackle at thirty two.

1725
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 1: That that that's it in terms of going through the picks,

1726
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 1: I do want to just go through just kind of

1727
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,600
Speaker 1: some moments from the night before we go around and

1728
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 1: maybe say our favorite picks. If you have any one

1729
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 1: thing that that stood out to me, I mentioned Travis Hunter.

1730
01:20:55,920 --> 01:21:02,600
Speaker 1: I'll just start here. Before it even NFL Network is

1731
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:07,879
Speaker 1: on and they show a clip of Travis Hunter dancing

1732
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 1: forty five minutes before the draft starts to I'm every Woman.

1733
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 1: And this clip, to me was the moment I was like,

1734
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 1: well you better, you better move up in the draft

1735
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 1: and take this guy. He is everything. He is like

1736
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 1: you just feel like how comfortable he is, how much

1737
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 1: fun he is having, how much fun you should be having.

1738
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 1: And he's out there dance that I'm every Woman in

1739
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 1: front of like one hundred and twenty five thousand people.

1740
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 3: Oh you gotta love It's getting down of Chaka Khan

1741
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 3: to the house band. You know, he's just but he's

1742
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 3: but he's that joyous guy. Right.

1743
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 2: That's the one thing all he does is he plays football,

1744
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 2: video games and goes fishing and dances to Shaka Khan.

1745
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of it? I mean obviously you have,

1746
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 1: but like when he is in an interview, like what

1747
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:53,639
Speaker 1: I think it was. What you see, what you get

1748
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:58,679
Speaker 1: when you combine that guy and the guy who loves

1749
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 1: football so much that he's not only talented enough and

1750
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 1: that the game slows down for him enough in a

1751
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 1: way where he sees it at a level that just

1752
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 1: mortals do not, but that he loves the game enough

1753
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:12,919
Speaker 1: that he wants to play one hundred and twenty snaps

1754
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 1: a game. That's it's literally a perfect prospect at two

1755
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 1: different positions. Anyways, I just I love that little.

1756
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 3: To the extent that it dictated his college choice right right.

1757
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 4: And if he's if he's in the coaching world and

1758
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 4: the circumstances are different, people would call him a genius.

1759
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 1: We say one of one a lot. He's one of one,

1760
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 1: and that is down to him just enjoying the night.

1761
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 1: So that that was a fun moment.

1762
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 2: That's that's a great point Patrick made about his college choice.

1763
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:43,639
Speaker 2: He's out here dancing to Shaka Khan at lambeau Field,

1764
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 2: and when he came out of when he came out

1765
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 2: of high school, college till high school in Atlanta. He

1766
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:51,679
Speaker 2: could have gone anywhere. He goes to Jackson State right

1767
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 2: in HBCU, and that got Nick Sabe and everybody all, Hey,

1768
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 2: what the hell is this kid doing going.

1769
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 3: To Jackson State? Because you went to Dion. He felt

1770
01:22:58,520 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 3: most comfortable there.

1771
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 1: He's look where he landed. And that's only because you

1772
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 1: got to take a quarterback. One other than other than that,

1773
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 1: he's picked.

1774
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 3: One and he's going to Florida.

1775
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:10,879
Speaker 2: Watch him elevate, watch him elevate all of his teammates

1776
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:12,720
Speaker 2: around him, because the type of player that he.

1777
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 1: Is, like, that's what I root for, and that's why

1778
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 1: I was rooting for to the Steelers. Yeah, well just

1779
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 1: because I thought it'd be an exciting story to follow.

1780
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 1: And we'll see where he ends up. We'll get to

1781
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 1: the best available guys in a second. But did you

1782
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 1: guys have any any moments tonight that stuck out to you?

1783
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 4: It was Matthew Golden. Okay, the excitement, the feeling of

1784
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 4: the crowd welling up and everybody there for Mark Murphy

1785
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 4: kind of getting the excitement going to what I what

1786
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 4: I really wanted was the shot of Matthew Golden walking out,

1787
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 4: and you know, the the highly paid draft attendants that

1788
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:50,839
Speaker 4: are upfront close to the stage.

1789
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:52,759
Speaker 3: I wanted to see the people.

1790
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 4: I wanted to see the people who have been back

1791
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 4: there for six seven hours standing on people's shoulders to

1792
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 4: get a glimpse of who the Packers were gonna take.

1793
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 3: And Golden and this opportunity.

1794
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:05,679
Speaker 4: It was just a perfect moment where I'm almost glad

1795
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 4: the Chargers and the Cowboys and these other teams that

1796
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 4: had a chance to take them didn't take them, just

1797
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 4: so we got that.

1798
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,600
Speaker 2: I love that the Gladiator kind of silhouetted are you

1799
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 2: are you entertaining type thing. I forget the player whose

1800
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 2: baby was throwing up, he was at his house, but

1801
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,719
Speaker 2: it's a viral video. Yeah, yeah, it's a viral video.

1802
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 2: I can't remember his baby bat spinning up has become viral.

1803
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 2: But that's not my favorite moment. Mine was the Mark Murphy,

1804
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 2: the Packers CEO, the outgoing CEO, just really giving up

1805
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 2: to the fans. I mean, he's such a knowing Mark

1806
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:40,680
Speaker 2: the way I do, and so upstanding, and him to

1807
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 2: show that excitement and that joy because he's like a

1808
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 2: very right here dude, and to give it to the

1809
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 2: crowd like he did in the city, that the Green

1810
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 2: Bay and the packers worked so hard to get that

1811
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 2: draft there. To me, that really was kind of.

1812
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 1: Another moment that was all about Green Bay because it

1813
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 1: showed the incredible crowd that I was there. I just

1814
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 1: didn't think that many people could possibly be there, one

1815
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five thousand people in the town that

1816
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 1: doesn't have that many people that even lived there. The

1817
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 1: shot of the entire crowd at the very moment where

1818
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 1: Clay Matthews referenced our president and that he had just

1819
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:16,640
Speaker 1: gotten off the phone with him and was making a

1820
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:19,639
Speaker 1: joke that he wanted to send a message to the people.

1821
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 1: The fact that the NFL network director I'm not sure

1822
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 1: who it was, immediately just took the camera off Clay

1823
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 1: Matthews in that moment, worried like hell of like what

1824
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:34,919
Speaker 1: is about to just like happen, And instead Clay Matthews

1825
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 1: just takes a shot. I would say he landed the plane.

1826
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 1: I would I still don't.

1827
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 3: Who landed the plane, the director who pulled through the drone?

1828
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 1: The director is who I'm giving the best moment to.

1829
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:50,559
Speaker 1: I don't really Clay Matthews. It could have been worse.

1830
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:52,599
Speaker 1: I guess he set such a low bar for how

1831
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 1: that started that I was worried about how I was

1832
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 1: going to end that. At least I was relieved for

1833
01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 1: how itted some other funny them they you know, the

1834
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 1: house band played Don't Stop Believing a couple of times.

1835
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 1: That was fun Goodell was wearing. According to Colleen Wolf,

1836
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 1: she believes they were Air Force ones, some like kind

1837
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 1: of souped up Air Force ones. She wasn't totally sure,

1838
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 1: but she got kind of a look at Goodell. Shout

1839
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 1: out to Colleen, by the way, who did a great job,

1840
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:22,839
Speaker 1: not just at the stadium and you know, in between,

1841
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 1: not for the TV arms, but on TV with Laura

1842
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 1: Rutledge of ESPN announcing that the schedule release will be

1843
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 1: May fourteenth, so we know when we're doing our game

1844
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 1: debut show.

1845
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 2: By the way, yeah, schedule releases all May release and

1846
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 2: for those for those who don't know, the NFL typically

1847
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 2: does not release that date until like two days until

1848
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:44,719
Speaker 2: they're going to release the schedule, so this is different.

1849
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 4: And by Steve's saying release, that's that's also when we

1850
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 4: would find out.

1851
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 1: That's what I love that company. Man. We got a

1852
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 1: graphic up for it. I didn't even know we had

1853
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:55,559
Speaker 1: all that good stuff there. We should talk a little

1854
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 1: bit about day two, so I mentioned Nick Schuk is

1855
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 1: going to join me. We're wrapping up here, but Nick

1856
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:04,799
Speaker 1: is going to join me after Friday's broadcast. Not planning

1857
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 1: to go live, but although who knows, maybe we could

1858
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 1: change our minds. Hadn't really thought about that for Friday

1859
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 1: night's Podcastle's let's think about the best available players. Let's

1860
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 1: start at quarterback. So no Jalen Milroe, no surprise, Shu

1861
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 1: Sanders still out there, Tyler Shuck who definitely has his

1862
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 1: fans out there. Those are probably the big three, although

1863
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 1: man late in the process, Will Howard from Ohio State

1864
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 1: was definitely getting some buzz. Gruden loves him. I think

1865
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 1: some McVeigh tree type teams will love him. They're out

1866
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 1: there at quarterback. Let's keep the conversation there just quickly,

1867
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 1: just what do you think about the quarterbacks and maybe

1868
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 1: how this all happened?

1869
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 2: This is this is really interesting because you know Cleveland's

1870
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 2: got the two picks. Now they picked up a second

1871
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 2: one in the front end. I am not sure that

1872
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:54,639
Speaker 2: they used at on should or Sanders.

1873
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 1: Do you think they're just thinking twenty twenty six.

1874
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I'm thinking, you know, maybe they're not

1875
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:00,800
Speaker 2: gonna use that type of comp stations. They try to

1876
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 2: get into the Kirk Cousins trade talks, but maybe they

1877
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 2: used that for some other positions. Yeah, I think so,

1878
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 2: you know, maybe maybe you know, wide receiver since they

1879
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 2: didn't go Travis Hunter. And then I think when it

1880
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:15,879
Speaker 2: comes to shoot work, I do think that the Raiders

1881
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 2: are team that could come into play right there, ha

1882
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:20,600
Speaker 2: him back up, Gino Pete loves competition. You know, you

1883
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 2: got to go back to the Matt Flynn Charlie Whitehurst

1884
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 2: and then they draft Russell Wilson a third round that

1885
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 2: type of thing. We'll see how far shoot her slips.

1886
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:32,599
Speaker 2: And also Jalen Milroll, I think when you talk about

1887
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 2: Cleveland getting a young quarterback. His old OC at Alabama,

1888
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 2: Tom Reese is now the OC in Cleveland. That's that's

1889
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:40,600
Speaker 2: something I would watch. I still don't know if it

1890
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:41,679
Speaker 2: would be in the front end.

1891
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 3: But if they move back, I think that's that's a

1892
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 3: young developmental guy to right.

1893
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 1: I tend to agree with you. I think the Browns

1894
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:52,719
Speaker 1: are more likely to take another quarterback later, which which

1895
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 1: sounds crazy that you would risk losing the guy you

1896
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 1: really wanted, But I think they're going to look at

1897
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:59,600
Speaker 1: these as premium picks. By the way, friend of the

1898
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:02,679
Speaker 1: Showy Caldwell, who does a podcast with our friend Nick Shook,

1899
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:05,519
Speaker 1: points out the Settlers of Katan guy as a fun

1900
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:08,440
Speaker 1: moment of the night. That was Lena Jackson right. I believe.

1901
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:16,679
Speaker 2: Using my offensive lineman and the Settlers of Catan board

1902
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 2: was was set up. It was prominently featured in the shot,

1903
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 2: which made us think, like, is this an nil thing

1904
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 2: or not?

1905
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 5: Not?

1906
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:25,559
Speaker 1: Even like is he just he just loves Catan. I

1907
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 1: gotta say, people that love Catan they talk about Katan

1908
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 1: a lot. I'm not a big Settlers of Catan guys,

1909
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 1: but I'm not against it. I was kind of a

1910
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 1: risk guy. Uh in middle school. I liked me a

1911
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 1: little bit of a risk Uh. Let's bring up that

1912
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 1: best Available board again, because it is one of those

1913
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 1: classes where it seems like the second round is awesome.

1914
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 1: Will Green from Marshall some off field stuff, but a

1915
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:51,640
Speaker 1: lot of people thought he was like edged two or

1916
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 1: three in this class. Donovan Ezeraku, who I really like

1917
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 1: as a talented passers, are from BC still out there,

1918
01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:01,679
Speaker 1: Will Johnson from Michigan. A lot of people CB one

1919
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 1: not taking medical concerns. Nick em and Worry.

1920
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 3: I love him.

1921
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 1: I mean that the combine freaks still out there. This

1922
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 1: is a great top of the second round.

1923
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 4: And the thing about nick Amon Worry and I know

1924
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 4: a lot of people just found out about him at

1925
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 4: the Combine. He comes into Columbia South Carolina as a freshman,

1926
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 4: starts every single game, leads the team in tackles their

1927
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:27,760
Speaker 4: their best player on a very talented defense where I

1928
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:30,840
Speaker 4: think nick Amy Moory had the production. The Combine just

1929
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 4: kind of confirmed it and I felt like he was

1930
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 4: going to go tonight to.

1931
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 3: Be I loved him.

1932
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:37,719
Speaker 2: He was one of my favorite players, and I thought

1933
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:40,599
Speaker 2: if the Rams hadn't traded out, that's who they're going

1934
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 2: to get. But you know, when you when you look

1935
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 2: at what this guy can bring, I just think he's

1936
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:49,559
Speaker 2: one of the first guys off the board. I think

1937
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 2: he's got pushed back because he's a safety. A lot

1938
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 2: of people were like, that's the position we can get

1939
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 2: in the second round.

1940
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:58,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know the Texans are picking second,

1941
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:00,879
Speaker 1: They're probably not gonna go to second. It's really interesting

1942
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 1: that the Browns have two of the top four picks

1943
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:07,639
Speaker 1: their team analytic. I think they're gonna use that first

1944
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:10,479
Speaker 1: pick to maybe pick up even more. They're gonna look

1945
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:12,639
Speaker 1: at this as an opportunity where they take one guy

1946
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 1: here and they move down and they just keep picking

1947
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 1: up picks.

1948
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 3: Eventually, you gotta you have to select play well.

1949
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 1: They will select them in this class. I think it'll

1950
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 1: just be like moving down in the second round and

1951
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:23,920
Speaker 1: feeling like that's where the value. And to be fair,

1952
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 1: there are we just went through some of them. There

1953
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:28,599
Speaker 1: are a lot of good players, like all those running

1954
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:32,599
Speaker 1: backs at run Trevion Henderson did not get taken, quinch

1955
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:36,160
Speaker 1: On Juggins didn't get taken. A lot of good wide receivers, uh,

1956
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 1: my guy, Kyle Williams didn't go off the board. That

1957
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:41,799
Speaker 1: the tight ends, Mason Taylor, Elijah Royo. There are certainly

1958
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 1: a lot of good defensive tackles that are available. Like,

1959
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 1: it's gonna be uh.

1960
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:48,200
Speaker 2: The second round is gonna be great, and of course

1961
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 2: you do is gonna be the conversation because wow, I

1962
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:53,439
Speaker 2: mean you look at you look at the board now

1963
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:56,080
Speaker 2: and you're just like, how early.

1964
01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:58,439
Speaker 3: In the second round is he gonna go. Could he?

1965
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:00,960
Speaker 2: Could he be like Malik Willis slide into the third

1966
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think we can sit here and

1967
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:03,640
Speaker 2: say I.

1968
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 1: Don't think you can rule that out. I also don't

1969
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:09,040
Speaker 1: think you can rule out him going behind Shuck and

1970
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:11,480
Speaker 1: maybe Howard and maybe.

1971
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:15,360
Speaker 3: I mean, I just say, is wow, quantifiably yeah?

1972
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,320
Speaker 1: That like I agree with you on Shuck because I'm

1973
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 1: not in on him. I think Milroe could a team

1974
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:24,599
Speaker 1: fall in love with just his upside and prefer him

1975
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 1: to Sanders because different flavors'. That's just totally that crazy

1976
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 1: to me, especially if Shouldar falls past the first half

1977
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:33,559
Speaker 1: of the second round. I tend to think, and I

1978
01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 1: don't know who it's going to be, but I tend

1979
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:37,680
Speaker 1: to think he's not going to have to wait that

1980
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 1: long on Friday Night. I think the Raiders at thirty

1981
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:46,559
Speaker 1: seven are really interesting Shoulder Sanders, Yeah, And I wouldn't

1982
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 1: love it as my you know, loving Gino, and I

1983
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:51,439
Speaker 1: think they want to win right away, and so that

1984
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:54,760
Speaker 1: would be one reason why they wouldn't take Shudure. But

1985
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 1: they might look at the future and think about.

1986
01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:58,639
Speaker 3: It is where he is on their board.

1987
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 1: I love it. I love a first round which a

1988
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 1: lot of great outcomes. Travis Hunter trade gave us a

1989
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:07,559
Speaker 1: little pop, and then like a lot of guys in

1990
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:10,120
Speaker 1: systems where I think can maximize who they are. I

1991
01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:13,200
Speaker 1: think Colston Lovelin and Tyler Warren like ended up with

1992
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:16,120
Speaker 1: the right teams for them. Egbuka, you know got to

1993
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:18,760
Speaker 1: be learning from the greats in Tampa. I think he

1994
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:20,920
Speaker 1: ended up in a really great team for him. Hampton

1995
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 1: being with Justin Herbert, a lot of the offensive players

1996
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 1: to meet Jenty with the rated I think, yeah, I

1997
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:30,840
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys have favorite picks or we

1998
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:31,639
Speaker 1: just get out of here.

1999
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:32,639
Speaker 3: No, I'm ready.

2000
01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 4: I'm ready to defend the Falcons decision making. I don't

2001
01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:39,760
Speaker 4: value I liked the teams that went ahead and moved.

2002
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:43,120
Speaker 4: I don't value future picks in the same way. Maybe

2003
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 4: maybe that's silly.

2004
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 1: Those are people to future.

2005
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 3: They're people, they're hypothetical people. We don't know that they

2006
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 3: have two people today.

2007
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:52,559
Speaker 1: Well, as Kyle Shanahan said, I don't even know if

2008
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna you know, we're if we're all going to

2009
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 1: be here alive on Sunday when he was talking about

2010
01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 1: a future game, the way things are going like who

2011
01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:01,479
Speaker 1: knows if we're all going to be here in twenty

2012
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 1: twenty six, So get your picks in now.

2013
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:05,880
Speaker 2: When Kyle said that, he just didn't want to answer

2014
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 2: a question. Though, Yeah, I don't know.

2015
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:10,559
Speaker 1: I think that way. I do think that way. You

2016
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 1: get older and you're just like, you can't guarantee any.

2017
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:15,680
Speaker 3: Hey, make the most that could take it with you.

2018
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:19,599
Speaker 1: We're getting existential. Yeah, we're we'll get at the back.

2019
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 1: And these young kids who are producing this, they're like,

2020
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 1: what are you talking about. You'll get there.

2021
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:24,840
Speaker 3: Yeah a few years.

2022
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 4: Somebody's asked how things are going to be, like, well,

2023
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 4: I woke up this morning.

2024
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 1: It helps me enjoy the draft even more. I'm soaking

2025
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 1: up this whole thing because you just never know when

2026
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 1: you're going to have another one. So let's enjoy this draft.

2027
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:38,679
Speaker 3: Or if your left tackle is going to be pushed

2028
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:39,480
Speaker 3: into guard.

2029
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 1: Enjoy this one with you. This is the first time

2030
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 1: we've all done this together. It was an absolute treat.

2031
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 1: We will be back. Like I said on Friday, thank you, Steve,

2032
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 1: thank you, Patrick.

2033
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 3: Appreciate it.

2034
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 1: Pully. We get you back next week. Patrick's already locked in.

2035
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 1: We'll talk after the show. Let's hit it Friday, we

2036
01:34:57,280 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 1: are recapping Round two, Nick Schuok and Eye. We will

2037
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 1: see you then when the Jaguars are taking a once

2038
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:08,960
Speaker 1: in a generation prospect and changing the franchise forever. Football

2039
01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 1: is back. See you frighten