Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm heart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2: If only, if only we can roll pre tape, if
Speaker 2: only post and posty gay when we get canceled. Speaking
Speaker 2: of baby, she just softball. I I wasn't even going
Speaker 2: to bring it up. Wasn't even did I say something.
Speaker 2: They got you canceled or me canceled or pressed and canceled.
Speaker 2: So I, first of all, I hate that word, So
Speaker 2: we'll just we'll stop saying that word because I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't like it what I do. But this is
Speaker 2: why you shouldn't podcast post fartum. I already I already
Speaker 2: have a belly ache every time I'm driving here, I'm like,
Speaker 2: please God be with me and guide my words because
Speaker 2: I'm spicy. No, you're so good, And I think the
Speaker 2: the thing is with podcasts is it's fun to get
Speaker 2: behind the mic and say whatever you want. Now, there's
Speaker 2: other podcasts where I feel like, like the Joe Rogans
Speaker 2: of the world, he could have any guests on say like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, people are still like I feel, you
Speaker 2: can say stuff on a podcast, but you also have
Speaker 2: to be right careful. And I've learned the lesson of
Speaker 2: I know that you know that the outlets will could
Speaker 2: potentially hear or whatever. And so when I ever talk
Speaker 2: about my ax or just anything, I'm like, I have
Speaker 2: to be careful of the words that I use because
Speaker 2: I don't want to give them a But here's the
Speaker 2: doing where my hurts.
Speaker 3: We really don't have to worry about that so much,
Speaker 3: but y'all don't. That's why.
Speaker 2: That's what that's that's why it's fun to have you
Speaker 2: guys like on. But I to spice it second degree, yeah,
Speaker 2: but like you're fine, Okay, okay, I have a belly.
Speaker 2: Can you hear the principal office? I want to throw up?
Speaker 2: Tell me what I said? No, but I so that's why,
Speaker 2: like I love it when I'm always like I just
Speaker 2: I just told Catherine to ask a question to Larsa
Speaker 2: because we have Larsa Pippin coming on the show today.
Speaker 2: Because if I say it, then it's gonna be maybe
Speaker 2: like if if maybe it's said in a wrong way
Speaker 2: or whatever, like feuding with you know what I mean
Speaker 2: I do. So I'm like, but I can ask. I
Speaker 2: don't mean, I don't. I don't mean it like that,
Speaker 2: like that's not what I mean to say. But like
Speaker 2: they probably won't quote no the like the random friend.
Speaker 2: I always think, now I'm digging my own hole, but
Speaker 2: don't know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm agreeing with you.
Speaker 2: I don't like that both of you know what I
Speaker 2: said wrong, and I don't someone tell me what I
Speaker 2: said wrong, so I have to I have to just
Speaker 2: go the whole story with it. So that's why, you know,
Speaker 2: again even to like because you know, listen, they say
Speaker 2: all all bad press is good breast right, So there's
Speaker 2: times when I go on I'm like, oh god, why.
Speaker 3: Did they pick that up?
Speaker 2: Because I don't like to see things that are said
Speaker 2: about me and my ex that I set on here
Speaker 2: because I really like, I want it to be such
Speaker 2: like a safe Let's like, I love our Windown shows
Speaker 2: because it is a very safe community and we can
Speaker 2: say so we think that one time, yeah, but like
Speaker 2: you know, so I just am more. We're more free
Speaker 2: on the Windown tour, but even here, I'm like, I
Speaker 2: want to be able to just feel like I can
Speaker 2: say anything without it like going or making a tabloid
Speaker 2: or or just something like that. So over time, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I've had to talk to my therapists about this because
Speaker 2: I'm like, I love my podcast, and I get anxiety
Speaker 2: because I don't like seeing the headline because there's so
Speaker 2: much more that concept context, context between what's actually the
Speaker 2: headline and what was said in the podcast. So I
Speaker 2: fight with like, I love doing this, but I'm also
Speaker 2: and I'm like, and I hate censoring because I want
Speaker 2: to share, but I have to be very careful how
Speaker 2: I word things. So leading up to this, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: pew what I said wrong. So, leading up to this
Speaker 2: last podcast, I was like, you know, I kind of
Speaker 2: thought it was a you know, we talk about pop
Speaker 2: culture stuff that happens, and conversations in the view would
Speaker 2: pick this up, and I'm like, this would be a
Speaker 2: really not calling us the view, by the way, but I'm.
Speaker 3: Just you know, you're like, if you can talk about it,
Speaker 3: then we can talk about it.
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, like, it's a good conversation. We
Speaker 2: you know, you're married to an artist's has been an
Speaker 2: artist whatever, like you know, So so anyways, I thought
Speaker 2: it was a good conversation, but I was like, I
Speaker 2: have to be very careful what I say because anything
Speaker 2: I say about Miranda will then get picked up sure
Speaker 2: most likely not always, and.
Speaker 3: You basically said that leading into this conversation exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I also said I was scared to say anything. Right, Well,
Speaker 2: guess what, dang it what you said?
Speaker 3: They quoted me?
Speaker 2: No, so I'm at where was Oh? I was about
Speaker 2: to play a show in Minnesota. Catherine's like, f yi.
Speaker 2: Fox News had no no something million followers they had
Speaker 2: they had sent this uh interview, Uh this what it was.
Speaker 3: They'd email they'd emailed the agents.
Speaker 2: My agent to me and said, can you say this
Speaker 2: is her quote or not? And it said.
Speaker 3: Bully like said was to get people.
Speaker 2: I hate to get people. You said, I hate to
Speaker 2: get people. Canfuled, but it seemed very bully like. Well,
Speaker 2: I mean, am I supposed to take it back now?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No, because I don't want to. No, I'm not. And
Speaker 2: that is.
Speaker 3: What you said. I don't think was bad personally.
Speaker 2: And what I said was it was kind of rude, yes,
Speaker 2: And I stand by that. I thought it was kind
Speaker 2: of rude having said that, you know, they don't put
Speaker 2: in the having said that at part afterwards, you don't
Speaker 2: know the circumstances and blah blah blah blah blah. But
Speaker 2: I still stand by that I didn't call her rude.
Speaker 2: I said it was kind of rude, oftens it a
Speaker 2: little bit. So I'm like, I'm fine with that because
Speaker 2: that's what my opinion was, you know, But the bully word,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I was like for me, I was like,
Speaker 2: I was very careful. Now, whether I might think that
Speaker 2: or not doesn't matter. You didn't say it. So it's interesting.
Speaker 2: So I've actually thought about this talk even before I
Speaker 2: didn't know this. I feel a little better now, okay,
Speaker 2: because tell you about them before. Oh gosh, there's more.
Speaker 2: There's more. So we then say, I'm like, I did
Speaker 2: not say that. Now, I don't want to throw you
Speaker 2: under the bus, but I'm like, my other co host
Speaker 2: said it.
Speaker 3: I told the publicist. I was like, look, she did
Speaker 3: not say that. It was one of our other co hosts.
Speaker 3: I mean, so it's nice quotations, Krystal Breaston.
Speaker 2: It's not Janna. I'm not going to say I don't
Speaker 2: work with Honey on the podcast. Not it.
Speaker 3: I mean, I would love to claim it if I
Speaker 3: said it, trust me.
Speaker 2: But anyway, you guys, this sucks because I'm actually a
Speaker 2: Miranda fan and I don't I didn't.
Speaker 4: They didn't say you.
Speaker 2: They said I said I called her a bully. Oh boy.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, I didn't say that. So I respond
Speaker 2: back and I'm like, guys, I didn't say that. It
Speaker 2: was my other co host, So stay well, guess who.
Speaker 2: Guess who put it out there? They put it out there.
Speaker 3: They still put it out and.
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's not fair. I didn't say that. And
Speaker 2: now I'm like, you know, but then we dug in
Speaker 2: a little bit deeper and I even had I'm glad
Speaker 2: I didn't send it, but you know me, I get
Speaker 2: fast with my emails. Yeah, so I saw the the
Speaker 2: the reporter's email, so then I drafted I didn't. I
Speaker 2: just had to say it. Though. I was like, how
Speaker 2: could you because we responded saying that was not me?
Speaker 2: How could you then, out of knowing that it wasn't me,
Speaker 2: put that out there? And I have such a thing
Speaker 2: after that one thing happened a couple of years ago
Speaker 2: with the fake or the person having the truth and
Speaker 2: then still putting something out. So I was like, how
Speaker 2: can you sleep? How do you do that?
Speaker 5: You know what? I mean?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 2: That's I was like, I don't care what context or
Speaker 2: how big or small the story is. Or whatever. Those
Speaker 2: were not my words. Don't quote me. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: they're going to do what they're going to do then,
Speaker 2: So but they ended up taking it down and then
Speaker 2: they just clicks.
Speaker 3: It was actually relatively quick. It was like within a
Speaker 3: couple hours. I mean she'd had a conversation, I know,
Speaker 3: so it was another conversation.
Speaker 2: So they just changed it to my original, which again
Speaker 2: I stand by.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I like that they don't care what I say. Okay,
Speaker 2: So I thought about this after that conversation and because
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, what would I prefer she do?
Speaker 2: Like I I there's a no flash photography policy. I
Speaker 2: don't want to go back into it, but I just
Speaker 2: had this moment where I was like, I think what
Speaker 2: it is for me is I would want her security team.
Speaker 2: That's what I would have done to to just be
Speaker 2: like absolutely no flash photography. If you see it, shut
Speaker 2: it down. Yeah, and then she doesn't have to do
Speaker 2: then puts her in a way better position. Yeah, I agree,
Speaker 2: That's what I would have done because I just don't
Speaker 2: want anybody feeling left out or pointed out. And that's
Speaker 2: what made me sad. Yeah. But anyways, anyways, that's just
Speaker 2: guess nervous having said all that that was, you know,
Speaker 2: but I still it's not that we're not saying the
Speaker 2: truth of things. There's just against certain things. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm being very careful and so you our guests today.
Speaker 2: There are probably things I'd want to ask, but I've
Speaker 2: just given them now to Kristen and gathering. I want
Speaker 2: to know about the Kardashians, I really do. I want
Speaker 2: to know what happened.
Speaker 3: We'll same, we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 2: Because it's in her bio like it was best friend
Speaker 2: and so I'm just like curious. It's like, you know,
Speaker 2: she's talked about before, she's talked about it, and not
Speaker 2: that I really care about the drama, but I also
Speaker 2: for some reason, they just seem so untouchable that I'm
Speaker 2: always like, what's the like inside? So I didn't know
Speaker 2: they weren't best friends anymore. Oh, I thought they had
Speaker 2: a falling out? Am I right? You know we're going
Speaker 2: to find out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll find out. From what I believe, I think
Speaker 3: that they're just not as close as they used to be.
Speaker 3: I think the Kardashians have let it known that it
Speaker 3: was just like a little just they're just not as close.
Speaker 3: I think maybe she has more to say about it.
Speaker 2: But I know she had a brief fling with Tristan,
Speaker 2: but it was before I don't know if I did
Speaker 2: a full rundown. But she's actually so. She has a
Speaker 2: new podcast out. It's called Separation Anxiety Podcast with Larsa Pippen.
Speaker 2: So she used to be married to Scottie Pippen, who's
Speaker 2: like huge. If anyone saw the Michael Jordan documentary, I
Speaker 2: mean they're alive in America, yeah, I mean Scotty Pippen. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And by the way, he's so sweet. I ran to
Speaker 2: him one time a ping pong like charity thing, just
Speaker 2: like the nicest dude. I was like, Scotty Pippin, it's
Speaker 2: so cool, like a legend. Yeah. Well, but now she's
Speaker 2: dating Michael Jordan's son, Marcus Jordan, and you know, like
Speaker 2: Scotti and like Michael Jordan had beef too. So did
Speaker 2: you watch the Last Dance documentary. It's good. Oh I
Speaker 2: did see that. I didn't forget that they had beef. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I got to like go back and like see,
Speaker 2: like way agan, but it's I guess they had even together. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're on that, and I'm just gonna go.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But now, so there's a sixteen year age gap, So
Speaker 2: before she comes on, what are your thoughts on an
Speaker 2: age gap sixteen years when the girl is older, Because
Speaker 2: I've been in where I was younger and the guy
Speaker 2: was older and like same, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, should it really be different? Not necessarily, but
Speaker 3: guys are just more immature, So I think it just
Speaker 3: depends on their immaturity level.
Speaker 2: In my chini, or we did that. We did talk
Speaker 2: to the girls of that one show one time that
Speaker 2: like Love Island or something, and they were all going
Speaker 2: younger and they said that these these dudes like doted
Speaker 2: on them because they were younger and they treated them
Speaker 2: like a queen and all this, yeah experience. Yeah it
Speaker 2: was the husband was younger than me. Well same, Mike
Speaker 2: was a couple of he was only like four years.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so this is probably my own stuff coming up. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 2: I feel like we should play a drinking games. How
Speaker 2: many times do we think in a podcast do we
Speaker 2: say that our own stuff, this is our own stuff
Speaker 2: coming up? Okay? I don't know why it bothers me,
Speaker 2: but it does. And I just have to say it,
Speaker 2: say okay, and I you know, I don't like to
Speaker 2: talk about like the past or whatever, but I'm gonna
Speaker 2: bring up the past.
Speaker 3: Okay, as long as that's fine.
Speaker 2: I don't like it and it's probably my own stuff.
Speaker 2: But so y'all know that my ex he said his
Speaker 2: only advice was playing video games, right. I mean I
Speaker 2: even worried about that in the Good Fight. So that's
Speaker 2: like not new news, right, Like he played video games whatever.
Speaker 2: And then when he went to like rehab or whatever.
Speaker 2: And I also wrote in the book like I snashed
Speaker 2: it with like hammers because I'm like, oh, your only
Speaker 2: vice it's not video game. We would so the other day, Jolie,
Speaker 2: we were just like talking or whatever, and we'd my
Speaker 2: and I kind of had to think about disagreement about
Speaker 2: how long the kids should be on an iPad. It
Speaker 2: was just it's just seemed like a lot more. But
Speaker 2: he had some stuff going on, so whatever. Fine. But
Speaker 2: so there's been you know, we've tried to put the ipadsay,
Speaker 2: I just don't like the iPads. I'm like, go outside,
Speaker 2: go play, go, just please get off the electronics. Like,
Speaker 2: don't like it. Well, so I was just like, oh,
Speaker 2: what you guys to do last night, and she was
Speaker 2: just like and she said, it's a couple of times now,
Speaker 2: like we've been playing video games and I'm like, that's fun,
Speaker 2: and I know you're Cayden plays video games. Yes, okay.
Speaker 2: For me personally, for some reason, it's very like I
Speaker 2: don't want my son Jase to grow up to be
Speaker 2: a now my ex husband. Is what thirty six or
Speaker 2: thirty playing video games fair? Because I'm like, if Alan's
Speaker 2: like I'm going to go into the room play video
Speaker 2: games for some reason, it's like I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's because it's like a trigger because that wasn't the
Speaker 2: only thing that like, I don't I don't know. It
Speaker 2: might would just be a trigger from like my ax.
Speaker 2: But personally, I'm like, what thirty plus man goes and
Speaker 2: plays video games? But then I feel bad because maybe
Speaker 2: that's just their thing and they like it. I don't know.
Speaker 2: So I'm just like I just had to just voice
Speaker 2: that and maybe do I disagree hate video games? The
Speaker 2: passion I like Tetris quote unquote yeah great, Kristen. I
Speaker 2: know I would not be attracted to like I do
Speaker 2: video games. I wouldn't be attracted to them. I like
Speaker 2: the old school stuff, but I just watch these I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know this will get me super hated, but
Speaker 2: I just it. It is like under my skin. I
Speaker 2: just think there's way a million other things we could do,
Speaker 2: Like yeah, especially like when you have kids. I'm like,
Speaker 2: you're you're a grown man playing video games. Now. I
Speaker 2: get it if it's a thing that you want to
Speaker 2: do and you like to do what's said to say,
Speaker 2: maybe I enjoyed drinking a glass of one, sitting out
Speaker 2: back playing you gre with my friends, and his alone
Speaker 2: time is playing video games. But for some reason, it
Speaker 2: just seems so immature. Is it the way we grew
Speaker 2: up though, that gamers are different? Because gaming now is
Speaker 2: actually pretty cool, Like it's very interactive and people have
Speaker 2: the headsets and they're playing with each other and friends,
Speaker 2: which is very social.
Speaker 3: I mean that's Kayden only plays. He's outside ninety nine
Speaker 3: percent of the time. So I have zero issue with
Speaker 3: Kate and playing video games. But it's social. They get on.
Speaker 2: They're either they're actually true like he, or they have
Speaker 2: like friends that are like playing. But I'm like, you
Speaker 2: guys are all grown men with children. But I'm like,
Speaker 2: but we play you girls, So what's the difference.
Speaker 3: So I battle myself with it, and I've always wondered
Speaker 3: that because we have another friend who has an issue
Speaker 3: with video games or really an x an ex husband.
Speaker 2: She's like code uh.
Speaker 3: Huh okay, because he plays too yeah or he used
Speaker 3: to yeah, and when they were married. I don't fully
Speaker 3: understand it, just in the sense that, well, it's actually
Speaker 3: very funny you bring this up because Nick literally found
Speaker 3: his old school Nintendo.
Speaker 2: That's fun. I was playing. I am gonnahoop everyone.
Speaker 3: But my point is is he's not a video game guy,
Speaker 3: but he happened to pick one up last night. But like,
Speaker 3: he doesn't watch TV at night, So if he picked
Speaker 3: up a controller at night and did video games and
Speaker 3: I was watching TV, it would not bother me, And
Speaker 3: like the slightest because I like to watch TV at
Speaker 3: night for my downtown Sure, but if I was like
Speaker 3: trying to hang out with him and he didn't want
Speaker 3: to because he's playing video games all the time or something,
Speaker 3: maybe that would bother me.
Speaker 2: But I like the big overside, just bean bag chair
Speaker 2: and a pilot headset and very childish. Mean, let's bring
Speaker 2: let's bring larsa on because maybe she'll give her insight
Speaker 2: on it, but again, like, I get it if it's
Speaker 2: your downtime thing, but maybe it's like a trigger for
Speaker 2: my old past. And then like, so I don't have
Speaker 2: a trigger and I don't like it. Okay, let's get
Speaker 2: It's just I'm like, can you imagine Alan playing video games?
Speaker 2: I'd be like that just seems so like. But I
Speaker 2: will say, like Preston on the bus when they're on
Speaker 2: the road, everyone's playing we play you gurs, So what's
Speaker 2: the right right?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, one's really front of.
Speaker 2: A screen and one's yeah, I mean that can that
Speaker 2: be my first question to Larsa?
Speaker 3: So like a safe one? Good?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ben, she'd be like, actually that, but maybe he
Speaker 2: does because it's probably around the same age too, as
Speaker 2: like that group. So that's why I'm like curious, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Hey girl, Hey, we're talking about
Speaker 2: younger guys and my ex husband was around is I
Speaker 2: think around the Saint Held's Marcus thirty two. Oh he's okay,
Speaker 2: so he's a little bit younger than my ex husband.
Speaker 2: But we were talking about the age difference with that,
Speaker 2: and I was telling her that I didn't understand the
Speaker 2: video game playing, and to me, it like bothered me.
Speaker 2: It didn't seem like I don't know, like I like
Speaker 2: what man is like playing video I don't know. It's
Speaker 2: just so I'm like. So then she says she doesn't
Speaker 2: like him, she doesn't mind. So does he play?
Speaker 3: Do you like it?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 4: No, Marcus never plays video games?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Would it bother you if he did?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: I like video games.
Speaker 3: That's kind of me. That's why.
Speaker 2: That's like the old school video games like Mario, Like
Speaker 2: there's such a difference. Yeah, because you're playing like aircraft
Speaker 2: or whatever.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but you guys understand that I have like younger siblings.
Speaker 7: I'm the oldest of five, so, like I have a
Speaker 7: brother that's twenty seven years old. Yeah, so I feel
Speaker 7: like I like I have older kids. I have younger siblings.
Speaker 7: So like from me, I'm surrounded by like young, younger
Speaker 7: older people. My mom is like twenty years older than me,
Speaker 7: maybe nineteen years older than me, something like that. And
Speaker 7: so my mom used to go to clubs with me
Speaker 7: when I was like younger, and she still likes to
Speaker 7: hang out and go out. My mom and dad go
Speaker 7: out every weekend. It's so fun, Like they stay out
Speaker 7: till like three o'clock in the morning, they like have
Speaker 7: the best relationship. So for me, when I think of age,
Speaker 7: I don't really think of like you're supposed to be
Speaker 7: doing this at this age, and you're supposed to be
Speaker 7: doing this at this age, because I feel like for me,
Speaker 7: I did everything like opposite, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: I got married super young, I had all my kids
Speaker 7: super young. So like for me, I don't like, I
Speaker 7: don't view age like somebody else that literally is like, oh,
Speaker 7: I'm thirty five, now I should settle down and have kids.
Speaker 7: For me, it's like I did it the other way around,
Speaker 7: you know.
Speaker 2: Sure that makes sense. By the way, I love your
Speaker 2: whole vibe all of a sudden, like you're just like,
Speaker 2: it's just cha you to calm us. Yeah, I needed
Speaker 2: to come down from my video. Can I feel like
Speaker 2: if people are listening, it's like a henhouse. Then we
Speaker 2: just like had a yoga instructor.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. I mean I'm all all over the
Speaker 4: place too, so I get it.
Speaker 2: So we have a mutual friend and and actually texted
Speaker 2: him last night when I saw that you were coming on.
Speaker 2: Adam Whitesman.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, I love him so much. He is
Speaker 7: such a good guy. He's like such a good friend.
Speaker 7: I talked to him like all day every day.
Speaker 2: We we stated his house in New York. We walked in, yeah,
Speaker 2: and because we were we had a we were on
Speaker 2: tour for the podcast, and you know, he's like literally
Speaker 2: the nicest human imaginable. Like, I mean, he's friends with everybody.
Speaker 2: He's so nice, he's so kind, and you know, he's like, oh,
Speaker 2: you're in New York and you know, use use my place.
Speaker 2: And so we walk in and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: this is the nicest beautiful view place I've ever seen
Speaker 2: in my entire life.
Speaker 4: Nice.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it really is. But his heart is he's placed
Speaker 7: in Miami. It's beautiful. But no, he really is a
Speaker 7: really good friend. I feel like, you know, he might
Speaker 7: be friends with a lot of people, but I think
Speaker 7: the people that he's like really close to, like you
Speaker 7: really get to know who he is as a person.
Speaker 7: And he's just he has the best energy, the best heart,
Speaker 7: and I just love him. He's just you know, I'm
Speaker 7: really lucky because my boyfriend Mark is like always used
Speaker 7: to tell Adam. I'd be like I love you, and
Speaker 7: you'd say I love you too, and then like, now
Speaker 7: my boyfriend like will be on the phone, He'll be like.
Speaker 4: I love you guys really quick, love you too. We're
Speaker 4: like one big Abbey family.
Speaker 2: So that's really sweet. Well, because I was reading when
Speaker 2: I was just kind of like doing some of my
Speaker 2: you know, research. Obviously I know who you are, but
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, I want to like know
Speaker 2: a little bit more. You were saying that you wanted
Speaker 2: to keep the relationship more low key. And I don't
Speaker 2: know how I have to look back at how long
Speaker 2: ago that was, but what was then your decision to
Speaker 2: go all right, you know, let's do a podcast together,
Speaker 2: let's be more, you know, let's talk about this more.
Speaker 7: Well, you know, I'm on Miami Housewives, and I feel
Speaker 7: like every season they've been like, hey, who are you dating?
Speaker 4: What's going on in your personal life?
Speaker 7: And I didn't know how to incorporate my boyfriend and
Speaker 7: to the storyline and like and it was like a
Speaker 7: couple of things. It was like I wanted to bring
Speaker 7: them on the show, but at the same time, I
Speaker 7: didn't want to just bring them on as my boyfriend.
Speaker 7: And I wanted to have a platform for us where
Speaker 7: there's so many things that are being said about us,
Speaker 7: and all of them are so incorrect, you know, and
Speaker 7: it was kind of like I would just listen and like,
Speaker 7: look at all these these blogs say the craziest things
Speaker 7: about us, and we never could talk back.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 7: I really didn't have a platform where we could basically
Speaker 7: be like, Okay, that's inaccurate, by the way, because I
Speaker 7: just kept letting the narrative grow and grow, and it
Speaker 7: just kept getting so big and it was all wrong.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 7: I feel like a lot of times when you leave
Speaker 7: and I talk about this, like when you leave a
Speaker 7: relationship or where you're married to someone that's famous, whoever's
Speaker 7: not famous, like it's destroyed. It's like you're the bad guy,
Speaker 7: you shouldn't have left, You're this, you're that. And for me,
Speaker 7: I was like I put in twenty three years, like
Speaker 7: I have four amazing kids. I did everything for that relationship.
Speaker 7: I purpose like I couldn't have done more for that relationship.
Speaker 7: It just didn't work anymore. So it's like I had
Speaker 7: to go find my mental like you know, safe place
Speaker 7: and like my happiness. And it took me a long
Speaker 7: time because I felt like for years I stayed in
Speaker 7: a relationship that was horrible.
Speaker 4: I didn't like it.
Speaker 7: I wasn't happy, and I'm kind of glad that I did,
Speaker 7: because I wanted to see my kids get older and
Speaker 7: have one home rather than like two homes. I know,
Speaker 7: like I grew up with a mom and dad, and
Speaker 7: I know how like great my life was. I wanted
Speaker 7: that for my kids. But at the same time, like
Speaker 7: I kept reading all this stuff about me that was
Speaker 7: like so not true.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what is the biggest not true thing that
Speaker 2: that you were.
Speaker 7: Just I feel like recently, like everyone thinks that like
Speaker 7: I've known Marcus his whole life, and I didn't. I
Speaker 7: wasn't friends with his parents.
Speaker 2: I was not the well Scotti and Michael had kind
Speaker 2: of beef anyways, didn't they.
Speaker 7: No, But when when I was married to Scotti, when
Speaker 7: you played for the Bulls, I was only with him
Speaker 7: that one last year where he played with Michael, I
Speaker 7: wasn't there. I was in college. I met him my
Speaker 7: senior year in college, like the summer before my senior
Speaker 7: in college. So I wasn't a part of that whole
Speaker 7: Bulls dynasty or whatever, like I was in school, you know,
Speaker 7: And so people assumed that like I've known them I've
Speaker 7: known him. They're like, how could she She's known him
Speaker 7: his whole life, And I'm like, by the way, I
Speaker 7: just met him like three years ago, Like I didn't
Speaker 7: know him his whole life, Like no, and a lot
Speaker 7: of times, like you know, recently, like I've been looking
Speaker 7: at things and peopeople are like, you know, you get
Speaker 7: to choose who you are with. Why did she choose him?
Speaker 7: And I'm like, because I wanted to.
Speaker 4: I like him. I like him, like we like each other,
Speaker 4: we love each other. Why not? But it wasn't like a.
Speaker 7: Thing Like I think a lot of people want to
Speaker 7: turn the narrative and be like, oh, she did this
Speaker 7: to spite her ex, and that's not what it is
Speaker 7: at all. Like I'm like, not at all. I don't
Speaker 7: ask him his personal stuff. He doesn't ask me my
Speaker 7: personal stuff.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 7: We talk about our kids and that's it. And I
Speaker 7: feel like when people break up, like and they're in
Speaker 7: a good place, all they really need to discuss is
Speaker 7: their kids, Like there's nothing else for us to talk about,
Speaker 7: because if if things were so great between us, we
Speaker 7: would have been together.
Speaker 4: That's there's a reason why people break up.
Speaker 7: It's not like, you know, It's not like I can't
Speaker 7: nurture a relationship with my ex.
Speaker 4: I don't do that.
Speaker 7: I have to nurture like the relationship that I'm in today.
Speaker 7: You know, I'm very current in all my relationships. Like
Speaker 7: if like I'm talking to you right now, I'm very
Speaker 7: invested in this conversation with you guys. But if I
Speaker 7: wasn't here, like I would be very invested in the
Speaker 7: conversation with my boys that are here, or like you know,
Speaker 7: my dog or my kids, or my friends or work stuff.
Speaker 7: But I'm not the kind of person that like goes
Speaker 7: back and like harps on bad things that have happened
Speaker 7: to me or situations. I don't do that, Like that's
Speaker 7: just not my personality. I kind of like deal with it,
Speaker 7: move on, deal with.
Speaker 4: The next thing. You know, I'm very president in my situations.
Speaker 2: Okay, you could have saved me a lot of copays
Speaker 2: if I just would have met you about seven years
Speaker 2: ago in therapy. But how did you and Marcus meet?
Speaker 2: Because that's that was my biggest question. I'm sure it's somewhere,
Speaker 2: but I'd rather get like the truth from the source.
Speaker 7: So we met at a party. It was like a
Speaker 7: Jordan Brand party in La I went with some of
Speaker 7: my friends.
Speaker 4: He was there.
Speaker 7: I didn't even know who, Like, I didn't really even
Speaker 7: know who he was my friends. He got us into
Speaker 7: some VIP area and we talked and he said, hey,
Speaker 7: what's up, you know whatever. He's like, ohh Marcus Jordan.
Speaker 7: And then we would DM after that and he would
Speaker 7: invite me to parties and he would say, hey, I'm
Speaker 7: coming to Miami. And we missed each other for like
Speaker 7: three years, like I would It was just like two
Speaker 7: passing ships, you know. We never were in the same
Speaker 7: city at the same time, but we were friends for
Speaker 7: like three years.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love that. And you knew who he was instantly,
Speaker 2: and he knew and who you were.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, I mean yeah, okay, we knew yeah, you know, yeah.
Speaker 7: But we had never we had never seen each other
Speaker 7: before that, like, never been at parties together or anything
Speaker 7: like that.
Speaker 2: How does he like, I mean with being on the
Speaker 2: Housewives too, I mean, have you liked going into that
Speaker 2: world and then kind of integrating him in that.
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, it's it's a scary story. You know,
Speaker 7: it's a scary place to be sometimes when you're on
Speaker 7: these shows because it could go either way. And I
Speaker 7: think for us, like we're so open in our relationship,
Speaker 7: like I share so much of my life anyway, so
Speaker 7: it's like, you know, you want to be on this
Speaker 7: journey with me because this is where I am today,
Speaker 7: and if you do, then let's go. Let's do this
Speaker 7: and let's have fun. And I don't you know, I
Speaker 7: feel like I didn't want to put pressure on him
Speaker 7: to be on the show if he didn't want to
Speaker 7: be on the show. I feel like his family they're
Speaker 7: very private, like this is not something they like to do.
Speaker 7: And I'm sure his family was very skeptical about him
Speaker 7: being on the show. But I said, hey, if you
Speaker 7: want to come on, you don't have to be a
Speaker 7: big part of the drama. If there is drama, you
Speaker 7: can just come to dinners. You can come to the things.
Speaker 7: If you don't feel comfortable, you can like you know,
Speaker 7: like I'll meet you at home, right and we recap
Speaker 7: the season then it you know, it was great.
Speaker 4: We had a great season. I think so far, so good, and.
Speaker 2: I love that. I have a question about family dinners, LARSA,
Speaker 2: are you going to dinner with Michael Jordan? No, okay,
Speaker 2: anything you want.
Speaker 7: To say, I haven't hung out with his dad. I've
Speaker 7: only hung out with his mom.
Speaker 2: Okay, I just wondered, is that is not hard? Like?
Speaker 2: Is there is that you know? Have they have?
Speaker 1: They?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Is that just? Is that a tricky kind of
Speaker 2: walk to to walk?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 7: Because I feel I feel like, you know, it's probably
Speaker 7: awkward for them, like for my ex and his dad,
Speaker 7: and but I like I get it. I'm not like crazy,
Speaker 7: like I understand it's different for them. You know, it's
Speaker 7: like they had a relationship or have a relationship. I'm
Speaker 7: not sure. But like for us, like I don't want
Speaker 7: like we never talk about them. We have our own relationship,
Speaker 7: We have our own day to day life, Like it
Speaker 7: doesn't really involve anyone else than us, my kids. Like
Speaker 7: that's really what it's about, to be honest with you.
Speaker 2: Your podcasts called separation anxiety? Do you have separation anxiety? Like?
Speaker 2: Where'd the name come from?
Speaker 7: You know what, we spend so much time together. I've
Speaker 7: literally never spent this much time with another person other
Speaker 7: than my kids. We literally do everything together. We work
Speaker 7: out together, we cook together, we work together, like everything
Speaker 7: everything together. And so every time I'd be in a
Speaker 7: different room and I'd be like, oh my god, separation anxiety.
Speaker 7: Or he would say, like if you were at a
Speaker 7: restaurant and I'd be like, I have to go to
Speaker 7: the bathroom, and then i'd walk to the bathroom. He
Speaker 7: would text me like a minute later and be like,
Speaker 7: oh my god, I'm going through separation anxiety. So and
Speaker 7: so that's kind of where the name came from. But
Speaker 7: I feel like I'm like I'm very like loving, like
Speaker 7: I like I tell my friends all the time, like
Speaker 7: I love you so much, I can never live without you.
Speaker 7: I like appreciate you, like I text my friends all
Speaker 7: the time like I love you, Like I'm so happy
Speaker 7: for you, I'm so proud of you. And I feel
Speaker 7: like like that's just kind of my personality. And so
Speaker 7: separation anxiety is kind of like you want to have
Speaker 7: that separation anxiety when you're not with the people that
Speaker 7: you and that like make you feel good.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 7: I think it's really important to surround yourself with people
Speaker 7: that like love you and want to see you win.
Speaker 7: And I feel like Marcus does that with me. He
Speaker 7: wants to see me win, you know. I want to
Speaker 7: win with him. I want to one with him. So
Speaker 7: it's like a good thing.
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Speaker 2: Podcasts, do you get annoyed with the age people talking
Speaker 2: about because I don't. I don't see we were talking
Speaker 2: about it pre like I've I've dated older men with
Speaker 2: that gap, but I haven't had the flip. But I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: in Catherine's I She's like, what's what's the difference, I'm like,
Speaker 2: there isn't any. I just I just think it's society's
Speaker 2: being like, oh, you know, the It's just it's not
Speaker 2: as common as the other the flip side.
Speaker 7: Yeah, No, I feel like for me, I've dated guys
Speaker 7: that were older. My ex was like, you know, ten
Speaker 7: and a half, eleven years older than me. I've dated
Speaker 7: guys that were, like, you know, twenty years older than
Speaker 7: I mean, I've dated guys that were twenty years younger
Speaker 7: than me. I've kind of gone it both ways, both
Speaker 7: both extremes. I just really think it's based on the
Speaker 7: person that you're with and where you are, and you're
Speaker 7: like compatibility at the moment, you know, or where you
Speaker 7: guys are in life. I don't really view ages like
Speaker 7: you're too old, you're too young or whatever, because I like,
Speaker 7: I see my mom, and my mom was like the youngest,
Speaker 7: like sixty something year old, Like she's super young and
Speaker 7: like works out every day and like parties and like
Speaker 7: like lives her best life. And so I kind of
Speaker 7: grew up in that. Like my means that, you know,
Speaker 7: my uncle was married to someone twenty five years older
Speaker 7: than I mean, twenty five years young younger than him.
Speaker 7: So I've seen age, you know, gaps all the time,
Speaker 7: and I don't think it really determines like if you
Speaker 7: guys are going to work out, if you guys are.
Speaker 4: Going to be happy. I think it's really based on like,
Speaker 4: you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: I agree with thesual. Yeah, and I agree with that
Speaker 2: and the piece of like the timeline of things, because
Speaker 2: you know, obviously I've only been together with my fiance
Speaker 2: for eight months. We're pregnant, like can engage orever. But
Speaker 2: it's like, congratulations, that's fun, thank you, I'm excited. But
Speaker 2: it's like it doesn't really matter, like whether it's you
Speaker 2: meet them and you get whatever it's like, or if
Speaker 2: you stay with them for five years and then you
Speaker 2: go on the journey. It's like it's whatever works.
Speaker 7: And I think people, people come into your life and
Speaker 7: like like at that moment, I know people that have
Speaker 7: dated in the past that I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 7: what was I thinking? But I'm like, no, I kind
Speaker 7: of needed that at that point. And even friends to
Speaker 7: come into your life. It's certain parts of your life
Speaker 7: where you like need them or there's a reason for
Speaker 7: all this stuff, you know. Yeah, And so I don't know,
Speaker 7: I don't really view age like that. I'm like just
Speaker 7: living my best life. I'm happy, he's happy.
Speaker 2: So you have the calmest and I love it so much. Really, yeah,
Speaker 2: so certain and so calm.
Speaker 7: If you if you watch me, if you watch him
Speaker 7: on Housewives it they call me the larcenist because I'm
Speaker 7: really nice until I'm not.
Speaker 2: Like, I feel that for me Detroit, but that's fine whatever.
Speaker 7: Oh okay, so yeah, I'm from Chicago, so we're neighbors,
Speaker 7: get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's we get man. There's something about like
Speaker 2: the Midwest girl. Yeah, like we are just so good
Speaker 2: until we're not and then yeah, totally it's your funeral. Yeah,
Speaker 2: exactly right.
Speaker 3: Switching gears for a second. I'm sure you hate getting
Speaker 3: this question and you're sick of talking about it, but
Speaker 3: obviously you were friends with the Kardashians. Are y'all still friendly?
Speaker 3: Is there not? I know there was. We were kind
Speaker 3: of debating that earlier, like, are y'all still friends?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 5: I think we're.
Speaker 7: Cool, you know, I think like people go through different things.
Speaker 7: I think I was in a different place, they were
Speaker 7: in a different place.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I just feel like I'm you know, I used to
Speaker 7: put so much emphasis on my friends five years ago,
Speaker 7: ten years ago because I kind of felt like I
Speaker 7: needed it. I just was missing something and I really
Speaker 7: needed my friends to fill that void because I didn't
Speaker 7: have it at home, and I feel like today I
Speaker 7: have everything that I want at home, So I don't
Speaker 7: really need like these outside situations because I feel like
Speaker 7: my like my cup is full. So right now, I
Speaker 7: feel like I'm really good.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 2: So what was the age? What was the youngest age
Speaker 2: of your kids when you did go get divorced?
Speaker 7: So I feel like I filed for divorce six years ago.
Speaker 7: Sophia has fourteen so eight eight okay, because it's no
Speaker 7: six eight yeah eight right, No, she's fourteen sixteen six
Speaker 7: two six to.
Speaker 2: Six of that. Yeah, because I I I struggled with
Speaker 2: when to leave my X too. It's like when when
Speaker 2: I found out that he had like the first round
Speaker 2: of affairs, you know, my daughter was little, she was
Speaker 2: only six months and I'm like, well god, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I come from a divorced family. I don't want the
Speaker 2: divorce separations and the all you know, all that stuff.
Speaker 2: Hi's the way, little one.
Speaker 4: Okay, Cruise, that's curious. Sorry, Okay, cruise on over?
Speaker 2: You should he dog train or what's happening? She's like, hey, cruise.
Speaker 2: He's like all right, I got it, such a little
Speaker 2: but anyway, so yeah, so it but then you know,
Speaker 2: you get to a point where I ended up filing
Speaker 2: when they were got it. Jace was two and four,
Speaker 2: but my daughter was four, but I think at that age,
Speaker 2: but it's just like I don't know if I could
Speaker 2: have gone longer than that, because you just you're as
Speaker 2: much as I wanted the family. I was just you're
Speaker 2: so broken. And it's so I heard you say, like,
Speaker 2: you know, you tried to go as long as you could.
Speaker 2: Was there a piece of you that like, I'm I'm
Speaker 2: good with with you know, the the journey and how
Speaker 2: long it went and took and stuff. But I couldn't
Speaker 2: imagine going another six years feeling that same like head
Speaker 2: against the wall.
Speaker 7: I feel like I, you know, I stayed in as
Speaker 7: long as I could. It was it was one of
Speaker 7: those things that like I knew in my heart, like
Speaker 7: it wasn't going to be like a for everything, Like
Speaker 7: I knew in my heart, but I had so many kids.
Speaker 4: I had four kids.
Speaker 7: You know, my kids were like and you know, athletes
Speaker 7: and like traveling and stuff. So it's really hard because
Speaker 7: I felt like they needed both of us, you know,
Speaker 7: like one would travel with them, one would be home
Speaker 7: with the other kids. It was just like a lot
Speaker 7: of stuff, and like both of us are very hands
Speaker 7: on parents, Like we both have like very traditional you know,
Speaker 7: we both like take care of our kids the same way.
Speaker 7: We're both we both come from traditional backgrounds, so I
Speaker 7: feel like we both like are very much a part
Speaker 7: of our kids' lives and want to see our kids
Speaker 7: do well. So it was it's definitely hard. It's not
Speaker 7: an easy road. I mean, that was probably the darkest
Speaker 7: time of my life, to be honest with you.
Speaker 4: It was like the worst and I felt a lot
Speaker 4: of guilt.
Speaker 7: I think when you have young kids, you feel like
Speaker 7: guilt because you're like just suck it up and just
Speaker 7: stay and just do it for your kids. And I
Speaker 7: feel like my parents like literally were mad at me
Speaker 7: for leaving. They wanted me to stay for my kids,
Speaker 7: or like you have young kids, you have so many kids,
Speaker 7: like you have to stay and work it out for
Speaker 7: your kids.
Speaker 4: But I was miserable, like it just.
Speaker 7: Was not good for me, you know, not to say
Speaker 7: like you knows it has nothing to do with like
Speaker 7: like my ex wasn't bad. It was it was just
Speaker 7: like it just didn't work, you know. Sure, So I
Speaker 7: think we have to do what's best for us, you know,
Speaker 7: as women. I think it's like really challenging because we
Speaker 7: do have to be like, you know, we have to
Speaker 7: be the best parent, right because we're women. We give
Speaker 7: these kids life. Like you have to really be very
Speaker 7: much like hands on with your kids. You have to
Speaker 7: be good looking or you're going to get cheated on.
Speaker 7: You have to be you have to work.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. Let me tell you, it does not
Speaker 2: matter how good looking you are. You're good.
Speaker 7: I know, I'm just saying, Oh, I'm just saying for yourself,
Speaker 7: just in case you need to like exit, like just
Speaker 7: in case you need an exit plan.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, there's.
Speaker 7: Like a lot of pressure. There's a lot of pressure
Speaker 7: on women. It's just like not easy for us, you
Speaker 7: know well.
Speaker 2: And I also think when you guys are you know,
Speaker 2: when there's divorced with children, I feel like the mom
Speaker 2: is where my heart is the most because you're also
Speaker 2: why should just say it doesn't matter, but you guys
Speaker 2: are triaging the children, like it's the children's feeling first.
Speaker 2: There's no room for you to to feel what you
Speaker 2: need to feel when you want to feel it. Most
Speaker 2: of the time, like you're still chugging ahead. So that
Speaker 2: dark time is something I've heard, you know, Like my
Speaker 2: best friends is a single mom and she was like
Speaker 2: there was no time. I didn't get to process at
Speaker 2: all until like two years later or whatever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it's it's hard. It's hard on us, you know.
Speaker 7: I feel like we have to like rally and be
Speaker 7: proud of ourselves and be proud of like you know,
Speaker 7: like we've Like for me, I feel like I've come
Speaker 7: so far. I've come so far, you know. I didn't
Speaker 7: think that I could make it, and I'm making it
Speaker 7: and I'm happy and I'm thriving. And it's funny to
Speaker 7: me when I see people like bash me and I'm
Speaker 7: like online, it's so easy to hate, but it's like
Speaker 7: it's so easy to hate, but for me, I'm like, listen,
Speaker 7: I refuse to hate. I just love, Like I just
Speaker 7: want to surround myself with people that make me feel good,
Speaker 7: that I make feel good, Like that's my personality. And
Speaker 7: if people want to hate and say oh, X, Y
Speaker 7: and Z, that's on them, like good luck, like be
Speaker 7: miserable in your own life, like not, it's not gonna
Speaker 7: work on me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it is hard though. I Mean, we talk
Speaker 2: about that all the time on here, but it's still
Speaker 2: so hard to I think it's personally, it's still hard
Speaker 2: to read comments. I'm like, man like, but it's interesting
Speaker 2: how off they have it. Like we were just saying,
Speaker 2: she was telling me she was reading one of my
Speaker 2: hate pages. Like they're like, that's not when she's due.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, because you know when my due date
Speaker 2: is and then can tell you. I'm like, please, Like,
Speaker 2: so you talked about parenting with your ex and how
Speaker 2: you guys are in alignment traditional you guys have that
Speaker 2: same mentality. Do you still have like a very good
Speaker 2: relationship with each other? Do you co parent? Well, what's
Speaker 2: the relationship?
Speaker 7: How do you think the only thing we like, my
Speaker 7: kids are getting older now, Like I feel like the
Speaker 7: only thing we need to discuss for my kids other
Speaker 7: than that, like we don't. There's no reason for me
Speaker 7: to like, sure, you talk to anyone that's in my past. Sure,
Speaker 7: Like I said, I'm very present, Like I'm very more
Speaker 7: part of where I am today. I don't look for
Speaker 7: the future. I don't look for the past. I kind
Speaker 7: of just like stabilize for the future. You know, Yeah,
Speaker 7: I'm here and then like I'm prepared for left or
Speaker 7: right going into the future, but like I don't. I
Speaker 7: don't live my life like that, and I just feel
Speaker 7: like that's what works best for me, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what are you guys doing on separation Anxiety? Then, like,
Speaker 2: you guys, is it about your relationship? Do you bring
Speaker 2: people on? Like what's your to get everyone to go
Speaker 2: over and listen to that?
Speaker 7: So Separation Underscore Anxiety Underscore podcast is basically just you know,
Speaker 7: we talk about relationships, we talk about current events. I
Speaker 7: just we shot a podcast yesterday where we wrote my
Speaker 7: attorney on who basically gave legal advice Likelora.
Speaker 2: Wasser you know it's mine.
Speaker 7: No, no, no, his name is Jason Giller. But we
Speaker 7: talked about, you know, prenups and why is it good
Speaker 7: or bad to have a prenup and like are they
Speaker 7: ironclad or like stuff like that, like the information people
Speaker 7: want to know because I feel like I have so
Speaker 7: many friends, so many guy friends that are like in
Speaker 7: the process of like getting engaged, and they don't know
Speaker 7: They're like, should I get a prenup?
Speaker 4: And I'm like, yes, you, by the way, should Like
Speaker 4: so you're just a prep Yeah, I think it's you.
Speaker 7: Know, it saves a lot of heartache at the end
Speaker 7: because it's like you understand exactly what you're going into.
Speaker 7: You understand the process is there's no like you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well guessing game. But let me just say, postnups
Speaker 2: do not hold up. I learned that last time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the go for the pre post. I was just like,
Speaker 2: this is true love. I don't need a prenup. We
Speaker 2: need to bring up. Yeah, there's a lot of business.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just, you know, it's just it's good.
Speaker 7: I you know, I think there's like you listen, you
Speaker 7: can be with someone for if you're with someone for
Speaker 7: twenty years, twenty plus years, you need to give them
Speaker 7: all your stuff. Okay, that's a long time. That's a
Speaker 7: long time. But if you're with someone for two years,
Speaker 7: three years, like they were not really entitled to like,
Speaker 7: you know, half of whatever you have, that's like insane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think anything undertaken. I think it's based good.
Speaker 7: Well, I think it's you know, I think it's based
Speaker 7: on the relationship and like what you bring to the
Speaker 7: table or everyone brings something, Yeah, everyone brings something different
Speaker 7: to the table. I think that there's women that are
Speaker 7: really pretty that just you know, hang out all day
Speaker 7: and expect their husband to do everything. And there's women
Speaker 7: that are really hands on and do everything, and those
Speaker 7: women should be compensated for their day to day and
Speaker 7: you know what they do to make you better.
Speaker 2: I say amen to that. Let's say her mom now.
Speaker 2: But I was I had like a big career and
Speaker 2: then my husband is an artist, so he's gone all
Speaker 2: the time. So when we had kids, I decided to
Speaker 2: stay home because otherwise, no.
Speaker 4: Right, you have to take care of your kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there'd be a nanny like living their best
Speaker 2: life with my babies and their everything. You know. But
Speaker 2: now I look at I had that moment like the
Speaker 2: Carrie Bradshaw moment in Sex and the City where she
Speaker 2: was like she was a smart girl till she fell
Speaker 2: in love. Like what did I do? You know, like
Speaker 2: I've given up my identity, my career. So postpartum with
Speaker 2: my first baby, it was so much. But I think
Speaker 2: what you're saying makes so much sense because it was
Speaker 2: you know, we do what we have to do, especially
Speaker 2: when you have traveling husband and a career like that.
Speaker 2: There was a comedian. Sorry, I was just laughing. I
Speaker 2: can't remember who was now. I was watching it on Instagram.
Speaker 2: But she was like, as women, we just give away
Speaker 2: our name, like you know what I mean, like we
Speaker 2: lose our name. The only time you ever hear like
Speaker 2: the word you know, you ever hear your maiden name
Speaker 2: is when your son calls you and ask mom, what
Speaker 2: was your maiden name? You know? For I was just like,
Speaker 2: you do everything away for this man, like.
Speaker 7: She knows, well, you know it's funny because people always
Speaker 7: ask me why did you keep your maiden name?
Speaker 2: Any of you guys care, I'm now well, I say
Speaker 2: that I went. I've gone back to it again. I
Speaker 2: would never do it again. But having said that, now
Speaker 2: that we're having a baby together, me and my fans,
Speaker 2: and when we get married, I do think I will
Speaker 2: be Russell because I'd like to at least be the
Speaker 2: same name as the same name, even though my other
Speaker 2: two babies aren't my last name. But I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just am like, that's That's where I'm toying with
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like I don't know.
Speaker 7: For me, like I kept Pippen because I've been Pippen
Speaker 7: longer than I yonan, you know, so for me, I
Speaker 7: have four kids that are Pippen.
Speaker 4: It would just be like weird if.
Speaker 7: My least, like my houses or whatever, just like stuff
Speaker 7: like that wasn't under the same name as my kids.
Speaker 7: But if I do get remarried, like, I'll definitely change
Speaker 7: my name. You know, I wouldn't mind doing that, but.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't Jordan. I like it exactly. But you know
Speaker 4: what's funny.
Speaker 7: People think I keep my name because of like the name,
Speaker 7: and I'm like, if my last name was Jones, I
Speaker 7: would still keep it, Like if it was my kid's name, like.
Speaker 2: People do all the time.
Speaker 3: Like my parents got divorced, my mom's life, I mean
Speaker 3: I would have kept probably.
Speaker 2: Yeah. My mom kept Framer because she was like I was.
Speaker 2: I was a Cramer longer than I was a conmactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I feel like it's just what
Speaker 4: you're comfortable with.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, Larsa, I just love you. I'm gonna chext
Speaker 2: Adam right now and just just say you know how
Speaker 2: amazing you are. But thank you for coming on Wine down.
Speaker 2: We really appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Thank you guys. I had the best time. I appreciate
Speaker 4: you guys.
Speaker 3: Nice to meet.
Speaker 2: Everyone listened to Separation anxiety with Larsa Pippin and Marcus Jordan.
Speaker 2: I already have separation anxiety from me.
Speaker 4: I know I'm already missing you guys.
Speaker 2: I know. I'm like, let's be together. Yeah, can we
Speaker 2: do Miami? Can I pop the baby out?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, after baby?
Speaker 2: Wait, So I can't tell you when I'll tell you off, Eric,
Speaker 2: I'll flat into your d MS. But the we can
Speaker 2: have we should have the bachelorette party in my me.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah fun.
Speaker 2: Oh my husband would love that. He this is good,
Speaker 2: like I for a night. Okay, so fun, so fun.
Speaker 3: All right, I'll talk to you guys soon.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm upset. Can we slide into I can slide?
Speaker 2: Girls can slide into girls, gms. We're sliding.
Speaker 3: She was so sweet, love her love.
Speaker 2: I feel obnoxious.
Speaker 7: Hell, I know.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, we're having a meditation, Hi, like
Speaker 2: I was all in.
Speaker 3: The best was the dog?
Speaker 2: Hey cruise, Hey cruise up exactly sounds and right eva
Speaker 2: witch laugh Afterwards. There was one other thing I was
Speaker 2: going to say, now I can't remember. I have my brain.
Speaker 2: It's funny though about being loud. Alan's son was like,
Speaker 2: you're so loud. I know because I'm like I'm deaf.
Speaker 2: I think the two kids. I was screaming in my
Speaker 2: ear because it was in the back seat. He was
Speaker 2: in the front whatever and I was in the back seat,
Speaker 2: and I just I think when I get really excited,
Speaker 2: I get loud. So I'm like so it was like, God,
Speaker 2: your soul. Lot. I was like, I know, it's just
Speaker 2: because I get really excited, like my ears are bleeding,
Speaker 2: then can I go back home? And other times okay,
Speaker 2: are more like I don't have a middle. No, no,
Speaker 2: you don't have a middle. But I don't think you're
Speaker 2: allowed human Well, I can't do.
Speaker 3: We're all we all can be very loud.
Speaker 2: You should catch us in the hotel room after wine down.
Speaker 2: We are a mess. Girls. I love you. I love
Speaker 2: you too. Thanks for pulling me out the postpartum bubble
Speaker 2: when I do potentially get us all interested. And you
Speaker 2: just had your outlaws leads so you know you needed
Speaker 2: you needed to. I do not have a bristle like her.
Speaker 2: In the moment, You're right with myself. You're good, all right,
Speaker 2: We'll see you next week.
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