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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm heart Radio podcast.

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Speaker 2: If only, if only we can roll pre tape, if

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Speaker 2: only post and posty gay when we get canceled. Speaking

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Speaker 2: of baby, she just softball. I I wasn't even going

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Speaker 2: to bring it up. Wasn't even did I say something.

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Speaker 2: They got you canceled or me canceled or pressed and canceled.

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Speaker 2: So I, first of all, I hate that word, So

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Speaker 2: we'll just we'll stop saying that word because I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't like it what I do. But this is

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Speaker 2: why you shouldn't podcast post fartum. I already I already

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Speaker 2: have a belly ache every time I'm driving here, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: please God be with me and guide my words because

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Speaker 2: I'm spicy. No, you're so good, And I think the

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Speaker 2: the thing is with podcasts is it's fun to get

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Speaker 2: behind the mic and say whatever you want. Now, there's

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Speaker 2: other podcasts where I feel like, like the Joe Rogans

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Speaker 2: of the world, he could have any guests on say like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, people are still like I feel, you

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Speaker 2: can say stuff on a podcast, but you also have

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Speaker 2: to be right careful. And I've learned the lesson of

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Speaker 2: I know that you know that the outlets will could

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Speaker 2: potentially hear or whatever. And so when I ever talk

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Speaker 2: about my ax or just anything, I'm like, I have

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Speaker 2: to be careful of the words that I use because

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Speaker 2: I don't want to give them a But here's the

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Speaker 2: doing where my hurts.

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Speaker 3: We really don't have to worry about that so much,

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Speaker 3: but y'all don't. That's why.

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Speaker 2: That's what that's that's why it's fun to have you

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Speaker 2: guys like on. But I to spice it second degree, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but like you're fine, Okay, okay, I have a belly.

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Speaker 2: Can you hear the principal office? I want to throw up?

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Speaker 2: Tell me what I said? No, but I so that's why,

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Speaker 2: like I love it when I'm always like I just

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Speaker 2: I just told Catherine to ask a question to Larsa

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Speaker 2: because we have Larsa Pippin coming on the show today.

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Speaker 2: Because if I say it, then it's gonna be maybe

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Speaker 2: like if if maybe it's said in a wrong way

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Speaker 2: or whatever, like feuding with you know what I mean

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Speaker 2: I do. So I'm like, but I can ask. I

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Speaker 2: don't mean, I don't. I don't mean it like that,

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Speaker 2: like that's not what I mean to say. But like

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Speaker 2: they probably won't quote no the like the random friend.

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Speaker 2: I always think, now I'm digging my own hole, but

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Speaker 2: don't know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm agreeing with you.

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Speaker 2: I don't like that both of you know what I

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Speaker 2: said wrong, and I don't someone tell me what I

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Speaker 2: said wrong, so I have to I have to just

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Speaker 2: go the whole story with it. So that's why, you know,

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Speaker 2: again even to like because you know, listen, they say

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Speaker 2: all all bad press is good breast right, So there's

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Speaker 2: times when I go on I'm like, oh god, why.

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Speaker 3: Did they pick that up?

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Speaker 2: Because I don't like to see things that are said

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Speaker 2: about me and my ex that I set on here

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Speaker 2: because I really like, I want it to be such

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Speaker 2: like a safe Let's like, I love our Windown shows

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Speaker 2: because it is a very safe community and we can

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Speaker 2: say so we think that one time, yeah, but like

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Speaker 2: you know, so I just am more. We're more free

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Speaker 2: I've had to talk to my therapists about this because

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I love my podcast, and I get anxiety

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Speaker 2: because I don't like seeing the headline because there's so

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, and I hate censoring because I want

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Speaker 2: to share, but I have to be very careful how

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Speaker 2: I word things. So leading up to this, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: pew what I said wrong. So, leading up to this

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Speaker 2: last podcast, I was like, you know, I kind of

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Speaker 2: thought it was a you know, we talk about pop

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Speaker 3: Just you know, you're like, if you can talk about it,

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Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, like, it's a good conversation. We

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Speaker 2: you know, you're married to an artist's has been an

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Speaker 2: have to be very careful what I say because anything

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Speaker 2: I say about Miranda will then get picked up sure

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Speaker 3: You basically said that leading into this conversation exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And I also said I was scared to say anything. Right, Well,

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Speaker 2: guess what, dang it what you said?

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Speaker 3: They quoted me?

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Speaker 2: No, so I'm at where was Oh? I was about

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Speaker 2: to play a show in Minnesota. Catherine's like, f yi.

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Speaker 2: Fox News had no no something million followers they had

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Speaker 2: they had sent this uh interview, Uh this what it was.

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Speaker 3: They'd email they'd emailed the agents.

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Speaker 2: My agent to me and said, can you say this

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Speaker 3: Bully like said was to get people.

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Speaker 2: I hate to get people. You said, I hate to

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Speaker 2: get people. Canfuled, but it seemed very bully like. Well,

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Speaker 2: I mean, am I supposed to take it back now?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: No, because I don't want to. No, I'm not. And

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Speaker 3: What you said. I don't think was bad personally.

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Speaker 2: And what I said was it was kind of rude, yes,

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Speaker 2: And I stand by that. I thought it was kind

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Speaker 2: I still stand by that I didn't call her rude.

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Speaker 2: I said it was kind of rude, oftens it a

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Speaker 2: that's what my opinion was, you know, But the bully word,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I was like for me, I was like,

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Speaker 2: So I've actually thought about this talk even before I

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Speaker 2: didn't know this. I feel a little better now, okay,

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Speaker 2: because tell you about them before. Oh gosh, there's more.

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Speaker 2: There's more. So we then say, I'm like, I did

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Speaker 3: I told the publicist. I was like, look, she did

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Speaker 3: I mean, so it's nice quotations, Krystal Breaston.

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Speaker 2: It's not Janna. I'm not going to say I don't

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Speaker 3: I mean, I would love to claim it if I

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Speaker 2: But anyway, you guys, this sucks because I'm actually a

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Speaker 2: Miranda fan and I don't I didn't.

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Speaker 4: They didn't say you.

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Speaker 2: They said I said I called her a bully. Oh boy.

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, I didn't say that. So I respond

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Speaker 2: Guess who put it out there? They put it out there.

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Speaker 3: They still put it out and.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, that's not fair. I didn't say that. And

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Speaker 2: now I'm like, you know, but then we dug in

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Speaker 2: I didn't send it, but you know me, I get

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Speaker 2: fast with my emails. Yeah, so I saw the the

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Speaker 2: How could you then, out of knowing that it wasn't me,

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Speaker 5: You know what? I mean?

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Speaker 2: That's I was like, I don't care what context or

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Speaker 2: So but they ended up taking it down and then

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Speaker 3: It was actually relatively quick. It was like within a

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Speaker 2: So they just changed it to my original, which again

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I like that they don't care what I say. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So I thought about this after that conversation and because

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Speaker 2: That's what I would have done because I just don't

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Speaker 2: There are probably things I'd want to ask, but I've

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Speaker 2: just given them now to Kristen and gathering. I want

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Speaker 2: to know about the Kardashians, I really do. I want

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Speaker 2: to know what happened.

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Speaker 3: We'll same, we'll see how it goes.

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Speaker 2: Because it's in her bio like it was best friend

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Speaker 2: and so I'm just like curious. It's like, you know,

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Speaker 2: she's talked about before, she's talked about it, and not

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Speaker 2: that I really care about the drama, but I also

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Speaker 2: for some reason, they just seem so untouchable that I'm

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Speaker 2: always like, what's the like inside? So I didn't know

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Speaker 2: they weren't best friends anymore. Oh, I thought they had

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Speaker 2: a falling out? Am I right? You know we're going

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Speaker 2: to find out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll find out. From what I believe, I think

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Speaker 3: that they're just not as close as they used to be.

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Speaker 3: I think the Kardashians have let it known that it

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Speaker 3: was just like a little just they're just not as close.

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Speaker 3: I think maybe she has more to say about it.

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Speaker 2: But I know she had a brief fling with Tristan,

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Speaker 2: but it was before I don't know if I did

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Speaker 2: a full rundown. But she's actually so. She has a

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Speaker 2: new podcast out. It's called Separation Anxiety Podcast with Larsa Pippen.

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Speaker 2: So she used to be married to Scottie Pippen, who's

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Speaker 2: mean they're alive in America, yeah, I mean Scotty Pippen. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: and I just love him. He's just you know, I'm

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Speaker 7: really lucky because my boyfriend Mark is like always used

433
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Speaker 7: to tell Adam. I'd be like I love you, and

434
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Speaker 7: you'd say I love you too, and then like, now

435
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Speaker 7: my boyfriend like will be on the phone, He'll be like.

436
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Speaker 4: I love you guys really quick, love you too. We're

437
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:08,200
Speaker 4: like one big Abbey family.

438
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Speaker 2: So that's really sweet. Well, because I was reading when

439
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 2: I was just kind of like doing some of my

440
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Speaker 2: you know, research. Obviously I know who you are, but

441
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Speaker 2: I was like, all right, I want to like know

442
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Speaker 2: a little bit more. You were saying that you wanted

443
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Speaker 2: to keep the relationship more low key. And I don't

444
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Speaker 2: know how I have to look back at how long

445
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,600
Speaker 2: ago that was, but what was then your decision to

446
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Speaker 2: go all right, you know, let's do a podcast together,

447
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Speaker 2: let's be more, you know, let's talk about this more.

448
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Speaker 7: Well, you know, I'm on Miami Housewives, and I feel

449
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 7: like every season they've been like, hey, who are you dating?

450
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Speaker 4: What's going on in your personal life?

451
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Speaker 7: And I didn't know how to incorporate my boyfriend and

452
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Speaker 7: to the storyline and like and it was like a

453
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Speaker 7: couple of things. It was like I wanted to bring

454
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Speaker 7: them on the show, but at the same time, I

455
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Speaker 7: didn't want to just bring them on as my boyfriend.

456
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Speaker 7: And I wanted to have a platform for us where

457
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,880
Speaker 7: there's so many things that are being said about us,

458
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Speaker 7: and all of them are so incorrect, you know, and

459
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Speaker 7: it was kind of like I would just listen and like,

460
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 7: look at all these these blogs say the craziest things

461
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 7: about us, and we never could talk back.

462
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Speaker 5: You know.

463
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Speaker 7: I really didn't have a platform where we could basically

464
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Speaker 7: be like, Okay, that's inaccurate, by the way, because I

465
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 7: just kept letting the narrative grow and grow, and it

466
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 7: just kept getting so big and it was all wrong.

467
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Speaker 1: You know.

468
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Speaker 7: I feel like a lot of times when you leave

469
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Speaker 7: and I talk about this, like when you leave a

470
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Speaker 7: relationship or where you're married to someone that's famous, whoever's

471
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 7: not famous, like it's destroyed. It's like you're the bad guy,

472
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 7: you shouldn't have left, You're this, you're that. And for me,

473
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,679
Speaker 7: I was like I put in twenty three years, like

474
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Speaker 7: I have four amazing kids. I did everything for that relationship.

475
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 7: I purpose like I couldn't have done more for that relationship.

476
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Speaker 7: It just didn't work anymore. So it's like I had

477
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Speaker 7: to go find my mental like you know, safe place

478
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Speaker 7: and like my happiness. And it took me a long

479
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Speaker 7: time because I felt like for years I stayed in

480
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Speaker 7: a relationship that was horrible.

481
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Speaker 4: I didn't like it.

482
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Speaker 7: I wasn't happy, and I'm kind of glad that I did,

483
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Speaker 7: because I wanted to see my kids get older and

484
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Speaker 7: have one home rather than like two homes. I know,

485
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Speaker 7: like I grew up with a mom and dad, and

486
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Speaker 7: I know how like great my life was. I wanted

487
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Speaker 7: that for my kids. But at the same time, like

488
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 7: I kept reading all this stuff about me that was

489
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Speaker 7: like so not true.

490
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Speaker 2: I'm like, what is the biggest not true thing that

491
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Speaker 2: that you were.

492
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Speaker 7: Just I feel like recently, like everyone thinks that like

493
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Speaker 7: I've known Marcus his whole life, and I didn't. I

494
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:20,880
Speaker 7: wasn't friends with his parents.

495
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Speaker 2: I was not the well Scotti and Michael had kind

496
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Speaker 2: of beef anyways, didn't they.

497
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Speaker 7: No, But when when I was married to Scotti, when

498
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Speaker 7: you played for the Bulls, I was only with him

499
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Speaker 7: that one last year where he played with Michael, I

500
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Speaker 7: wasn't there. I was in college. I met him my

501
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Speaker 7: senior year in college, like the summer before my senior

502
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Speaker 7: in college. So I wasn't a part of that whole

503
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Speaker 7: Bulls dynasty or whatever, like I was in school, you know,

504
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Speaker 7: And so people assumed that like I've known them I've

505
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 7: known him. They're like, how could she She's known him

506
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Speaker 7: his whole life, And I'm like, by the way, I

507
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 7: just met him like three years ago, Like I didn't

508
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Speaker 7: know him his whole life, Like no, and a lot

509
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Speaker 7: of times, like you know, recently, like I've been looking

510
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 7: at things and peopeople are like, you know, you get

511
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 7: to choose who you are with. Why did she choose him?

512
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 7: And I'm like, because I wanted to.

513
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Speaker 4: I like him. I like him, like we like each other,

514
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 4: we love each other. Why not? But it wasn't like a.

515
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Speaker 7: Thing Like I think a lot of people want to

516
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 7: turn the narrative and be like, oh, she did this

517
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 7: to spite her ex, and that's not what it is

518
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Speaker 7: at all. Like I'm like, not at all. I don't

519
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 7: ask him his personal stuff. He doesn't ask me my

520
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Speaker 7: personal stuff.

521
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Speaker 4: You know.

522
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Speaker 7: We talk about our kids and that's it. And I

523
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 7: feel like when people break up, like and they're in

524
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 7: a good place, all they really need to discuss is

525
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 7: their kids, Like there's nothing else for us to talk about,

526
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Speaker 7: because if if things were so great between us, we

527
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Speaker 7: would have been together.

528
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Speaker 4: That's there's a reason why people break up.

529
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Speaker 7: It's not like, you know, It's not like I can't

530
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Speaker 7: nurture a relationship with my ex.

531
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Speaker 4: I don't do that.

532
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Speaker 7: I have to nurture like the relationship that I'm in today.

533
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Speaker 7: You know, I'm very current in all my relationships. Like

534
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 7: if like I'm talking to you right now, I'm very

535
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 7: invested in this conversation with you guys. But if I

536
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 7: wasn't here, like I would be very invested in the

537
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 7: conversation with my boys that are here, or like you know,

538
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 7: my dog or my kids, or my friends or work stuff.

539
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 7: But I'm not the kind of person that like goes

540
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 7: back and like harps on bad things that have happened

541
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Speaker 7: to me or situations. I don't do that, Like that's

542
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 7: just not my personality. I kind of like deal with it,

543
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 7: move on, deal with.

544
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Speaker 4: The next thing. You know, I'm very president in my situations.

545
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Speaker 2: Okay, you could have saved me a lot of copays

546
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 2: if I just would have met you about seven years

547
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 2: ago in therapy. But how did you and Marcus meet?

548
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Speaker 2: Because that's that was my biggest question. I'm sure it's somewhere,

549
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: but I'd rather get like the truth from the source.

550
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Speaker 7: So we met at a party. It was like a

551
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Speaker 7: Jordan Brand party in La I went with some of

552
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Speaker 7: my friends.

553
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Speaker 4: He was there.

554
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Speaker 7: I didn't even know who, Like, I didn't really even

555
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 7: know who he was my friends. He got us into

556
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 7: some VIP area and we talked and he said, hey,

557
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 7: what's up, you know whatever. He's like, ohh Marcus Jordan.

558
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Speaker 7: And then we would DM after that and he would

559
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 7: invite me to parties and he would say, hey, I'm

560
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 7: coming to Miami. And we missed each other for like

561
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Speaker 7: three years, like I would It was just like two

562
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 7: passing ships, you know. We never were in the same

563
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 7: city at the same time, but we were friends for

564
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Speaker 7: like three years.

565
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I love that. And you knew who he was instantly,

566
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Speaker 2: and he knew and who you were.

567
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Speaker 4: Well yeah, I mean yeah, okay, we knew yeah, you know, yeah.

568
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 7: But we had never we had never seen each other

569
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 7: before that, like, never been at parties together or anything

570
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 7: like that.

571
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Speaker 2: How does he like, I mean with being on the

572
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Speaker 2: Housewives too, I mean, have you liked going into that

573
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Speaker 2: world and then kind of integrating him in that.

574
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Speaker 7: I mean, you know, it's it's a scary story. You know,

575
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 7: it's a scary place to be sometimes when you're on

576
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 7: these shows because it could go either way. And I

577
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 7: think for us, like we're so open in our relationship,

578
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 7: like I share so much of my life anyway, so

579
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 7: it's like, you know, you want to be on this

580
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 7: journey with me because this is where I am today,

581
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 7: and if you do, then let's go. Let's do this

582
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 7: and let's have fun. And I don't you know, I

583
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 7: feel like I didn't want to put pressure on him

584
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 7: to be on the show if he didn't want to

585
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 7: be on the show. I feel like his family they're

586
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 7: very private, like this is not something they like to do.

587
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 7: And I'm sure his family was very skeptical about him

588
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Speaker 7: being on the show. But I said, hey, if you

589
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 7: want to come on, you don't have to be a

590
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 7: big part of the drama. If there is drama, you

591
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 7: can just come to dinners. You can come to the things.

592
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 7: If you don't feel comfortable, you can like you know,

593
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 7: like I'll meet you at home, right and we recap

594
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 7: the season then it you know, it was great.

595
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Speaker 4: We had a great season. I think so far, so good, and.

596
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Speaker 2: I love that. I have a question about family dinners, LARSA,

597
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Speaker 2: are you going to dinner with Michael Jordan? No, okay,

598
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Speaker 2: anything you want.

599
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Speaker 7: To say, I haven't hung out with his dad. I've

600
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 7: only hung out with his mom.

601
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Speaker 2: Okay, I just wondered, is that is not hard? Like?

602
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Speaker 2: Is there is that you know? Have they have?

603
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Speaker 1: They?

604
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Speaker 7: Like?

605
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Is that just? Is that a tricky kind of

606
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 2: walk to to walk?

607
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Speaker 6: No?

608
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Speaker 7: Because I feel I feel like, you know, it's probably

609
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 7: awkward for them, like for my ex and his dad,

610
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 7: and but I like I get it. I'm not like crazy,

611
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 7: like I understand it's different for them. You know, it's

612
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 7: like they had a relationship or have a relationship. I'm

613
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 7: not sure. But like for us, like I don't want

614
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 7: like we never talk about them. We have our own relationship,

615
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 7: We have our own day to day life, Like it

616
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 7: doesn't really involve anyone else than us, my kids. Like

617
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 7: that's really what it's about, to be honest with you.

618
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Speaker 2: Your podcasts called separation anxiety? Do you have separation anxiety? Like?

619
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Speaker 2: Where'd the name come from?

620
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Speaker 7: You know what, we spend so much time together. I've

621
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 7: literally never spent this much time with another person other

622
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 7: than my kids. We literally do everything together. We work

623
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 7: out together, we cook together, we work together, like everything

624
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 7: everything together. And so every time I'd be in a

625
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 7: different room and I'd be like, oh my god, separation anxiety.

626
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 7: Or he would say, like if you were at a

627
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 7: restaurant and I'd be like, I have to go to

628
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 7: the bathroom, and then i'd walk to the bathroom. He

629
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 7: would text me like a minute later and be like,

630
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 7: oh my god, I'm going through separation anxiety. So and

631
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 7: so that's kind of where the name came from. But

632
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 7: I feel like I'm like I'm very like loving, like

633
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 7: I like I tell my friends all the time, like

634
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 7: I love you so much, I can never live without you.

635
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 7: I like appreciate you, like I text my friends all

636
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 7: the time like I love you, Like I'm so happy

637
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 7: for you, I'm so proud of you. And I feel

638
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 7: like like that's just kind of my personality. And so

639
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 7: separation anxiety is kind of like you want to have

640
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 7: that separation anxiety when you're not with the people that

641
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 7: you and that like make you feel good.

642
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 4: You know.

643
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 7: I think it's really important to surround yourself with people

644
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 7: that like love you and want to see you win.

645
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 7: And I feel like Marcus does that with me. He

646
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 7: wants to see me win, you know. I want to

647
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 7: win with him. I want to one with him. So

648
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 7: it's like a good thing.

649
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 6: Hi, I'm Chris Harrison, host of the Most Dramatic podcast Ever.

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Speaker 2: Podcasts, do you get annoyed with the age people talking

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Speaker 2: about because I don't. I don't see we were talking

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Speaker 2: about it pre like I've I've dated older men with

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Speaker 2: that gap, but I haven't had the flip. But I'm like, well,

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Speaker 2: in Catherine's I She's like, what's what's the difference, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: there isn't any. I just I just think it's society's

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Speaker 2: being like, oh, you know, the It's just it's not

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Speaker 2: as common as the other the flip side.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, No, I feel like for me, I've dated guys

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Speaker 7: that were older. My ex was like, you know, ten

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Speaker 7: and a half, eleven years older than me. I've dated

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Speaker 7: guys that were, like, you know, twenty years older than

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Speaker 7: I mean, I've dated guys that were twenty years younger

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Speaker 7: than me. I've kind of gone it both ways, both

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Speaker 7: both extremes. I just really think it's based on the

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Speaker 7: person that you're with and where you are, and you're

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Speaker 7: like compatibility at the moment, you know, or where you

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Speaker 7: guys are in life. I don't really view ages like

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Speaker 7: you're too old, you're too young or whatever, because I like,

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Speaker 7: I see my mom, and my mom was like the youngest,

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Speaker 7: like sixty something year old, Like she's super young and

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Speaker 7: like works out every day and like parties and like

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Speaker 7: like lives her best life. And so I kind of

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Speaker 7: grew up in that. Like my means that, you know,

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Speaker 7: my uncle was married to someone twenty five years older

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Speaker 7: than I mean, twenty five years young younger than him.

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Speaker 7: So I've seen age, you know, gaps all the time,

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Speaker 7: and I don't think it really determines like if you

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Speaker 7: guys are going to work out, if you guys are.

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Speaker 4: Going to be happy. I think it's really based on like,

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Speaker 4: you know, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I agree with thesual. Yeah, and I agree with that

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Speaker 2: and the piece of like the timeline of things, because

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Speaker 2: you know, obviously I've only been together with my fiance

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Speaker 2: for eight months. We're pregnant, like can engage orever. But

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Speaker 2: it's like, congratulations, that's fun, thank you, I'm excited. But

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Speaker 2: it's like it doesn't really matter, like whether it's you

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Speaker 2: meet them and you get whatever it's like, or if

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Speaker 2: you stay with them for five years and then you

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Speaker 2: go on the journey. It's like it's whatever works.

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Speaker 7: And I think people, people come into your life and

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Speaker 7: like like at that moment, I know people that have

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Speaker 7: dated in the past that I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 7: what was I thinking? But I'm like, no, I kind

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Speaker 7: of needed that at that point. And even friends to

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Speaker 7: come into your life. It's certain parts of your life

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Speaker 7: where you like need them or there's a reason for

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Speaker 7: all this stuff, you know. Yeah, And so I don't know,

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Speaker 7: I don't really view age like that. I'm like just

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Speaker 7: living my best life. I'm happy, he's happy.

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Speaker 2: So you have the calmest and I love it so much. Really, yeah,

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Speaker 2: so certain and so calm.

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Speaker 7: If you if you watch me, if you watch him

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Speaker 7: on Housewives it they call me the larcenist because I'm

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Speaker 7: really nice until I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Like, I feel that for me Detroit, but that's fine whatever.

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Speaker 7: Oh okay, so yeah, I'm from Chicago, so we're neighbors,

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Speaker 7: get it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's we get man. There's something about like

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Speaker 2: the Midwest girl. Yeah, like we are just so good

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Speaker 2: until we're not and then yeah, totally it's your funeral. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: exactly right.

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Speaker 3: Switching gears for a second. I'm sure you hate getting

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Speaker 3: this question and you're sick of talking about it, but

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Speaker 3: obviously you were friends with the Kardashians. Are y'all still friendly?

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Speaker 3: Is there not? I know there was. We were kind

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Speaker 3: of debating that earlier, like, are y'all still friends?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 5: I think we're.

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Speaker 7: Cool, you know, I think like people go through different things.

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Speaker 7: I think I was in a different place, they were

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Speaker 7: in a different place.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I just feel like I'm you know, I used to

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Speaker 7: put so much emphasis on my friends five years ago,

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Speaker 7: ten years ago because I kind of felt like I

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Speaker 7: needed it. I just was missing something and I really

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Speaker 7: needed my friends to fill that void because I didn't

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Speaker 7: have it at home, and I feel like today I

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Speaker 7: have everything that I want at home, So I don't

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Speaker 7: really need like these outside situations because I feel like

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Speaker 7: my like my cup is full. So right now, I

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Speaker 7: feel like I'm really good.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 2: So what was the age? What was the youngest age

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Speaker 2: of your kids when you did go get divorced?

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Speaker 7: So I feel like I filed for divorce six years ago.

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Speaker 7: Sophia has fourteen so eight eight okay, because it's no

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Speaker 7: six eight yeah eight right, No, she's fourteen sixteen six

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Speaker 7: two six to.

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Speaker 2: Six of that. Yeah, because I I I struggled with

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Speaker 2: when to leave my X too. It's like when when

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Speaker 2: I found out that he had like the first round

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Speaker 2: of affairs, you know, my daughter was little, she was

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Speaker 2: only six months and I'm like, well god, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I come from a divorced family. I don't want the

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Speaker 2: divorce separations and the all you know, all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Hi's the way, little one.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Cruise, that's curious. Sorry, Okay, cruise on over?

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Speaker 2: You should he dog train or what's happening? She's like, hey, cruise.

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Speaker 2: He's like all right, I got it, such a little

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Speaker 2: but anyway, so yeah, so it but then you know,

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Speaker 2: you get to a point where I ended up filing

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Speaker 2: when they were got it. Jace was two and four,

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Speaker 2: but my daughter was four, but I think at that age,

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Speaker 2: but it's just like I don't know if I could

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Speaker 2: have gone longer than that, because you just you're as

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Speaker 2: much as I wanted the family. I was just you're

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Speaker 2: so broken. And it's so I heard you say, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, you tried to go as long as you could.

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Speaker 2: Was there a piece of you that like, I'm I'm

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Speaker 2: good with with you know, the the journey and how

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Speaker 2: long it went and took and stuff. But I couldn't

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Speaker 2: imagine going another six years feeling that same like head

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Speaker 2: against the wall.

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Speaker 7: I feel like I, you know, I stayed in as

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Speaker 7: long as I could. It was it was one of

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Speaker 7: those things that like I knew in my heart, like

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Speaker 7: it wasn't going to be like a for everything, Like

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Speaker 7: I knew in my heart, but I had so many kids.

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Speaker 4: I had four kids.

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Speaker 7: You know, my kids were like and you know, athletes

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Speaker 7: and like traveling and stuff. So it's really hard because

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Speaker 7: I felt like they needed both of us, you know,

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Speaker 7: like one would travel with them, one would be home

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Speaker 7: with the other kids. It was just like a lot

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Speaker 7: of stuff, and like both of us are very hands

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Speaker 7: on parents, Like we both have like very traditional you know,

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Speaker 7: we both like take care of our kids the same way.

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Speaker 7: We're both we both come from traditional backgrounds, so I

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Speaker 7: feel like we both like are very much a part

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Speaker 7: of our kids' lives and want to see our kids

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Speaker 7: do well. So it was it's definitely hard. It's not

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Speaker 7: an easy road. I mean, that was probably the darkest

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Speaker 7: time of my life, to be honest with you.

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Speaker 4: It was like the worst and I felt a lot

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Speaker 4: of guilt.

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Speaker 7: I think when you have young kids, you feel like

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Speaker 7: guilt because you're like just suck it up and just

820
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Speaker 7: stay and just do it for your kids. And I

821
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Speaker 7: feel like my parents like literally were mad at me

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Speaker 7: for leaving. They wanted me to stay for my kids,

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Speaker 7: or like you have young kids, you have so many kids,

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Speaker 7: like you have to stay and work it out for

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Speaker 7: your kids.

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Speaker 4: But I was miserable, like it just.

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Speaker 7: Was not good for me, you know, not to say

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Speaker 7: like you knows it has nothing to do with like

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Speaker 7: like my ex wasn't bad. It was it was just

830
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Speaker 7: like it just didn't work, you know. Sure, So I

831
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Speaker 7: think we have to do what's best for us, you know,

832
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Speaker 7: as women. I think it's like really challenging because we

833
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Speaker 7: do have to be like, you know, we have to

834
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Speaker 7: be the best parent, right because we're women. We give

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Speaker 7: these kids life. Like you have to really be very

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Speaker 7: much like hands on with your kids. You have to

837
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Speaker 7: be good looking or you're going to get cheated on.

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Speaker 7: You have to be you have to work.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. Let me tell you, it does not

840
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Speaker 2: matter how good looking you are. You're good.

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Speaker 7: I know, I'm just saying, Oh, I'm just saying for yourself,

842
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Speaker 7: just in case you need to like exit, like just

843
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Speaker 7: in case you need an exit plan.

844
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Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, there's.

845
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Speaker 7: Like a lot of pressure. There's a lot of pressure

846
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Speaker 7: on women. It's just like not easy for us, you

847
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Speaker 7: know well.

848
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Speaker 2: And I also think when you guys are you know,

849
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Speaker 2: when there's divorced with children, I feel like the mom

850
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Speaker 2: is where my heart is the most because you're also

851
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Speaker 2: why should just say it doesn't matter, but you guys

852
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,479
Speaker 2: are triaging the children, like it's the children's feeling first.

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Speaker 2: There's no room for you to to feel what you

854
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Speaker 2: need to feel when you want to feel it. Most

855
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 2: of the time, like you're still chugging ahead. So that

856
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Speaker 2: dark time is something I've heard, you know, Like my

857
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Speaker 2: best friends is a single mom and she was like

858
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Speaker 2: there was no time. I didn't get to process at

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Speaker 2: all until like two years later or whatever.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it's it's hard. It's hard on us, you know.

861
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Speaker 7: I feel like we have to like rally and be

862
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Speaker 7: proud of ourselves and be proud of like you know,

863
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Speaker 7: like we've Like for me, I feel like I've come

864
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Speaker 7: so far. I've come so far, you know. I didn't

865
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 7: think that I could make it, and I'm making it

866
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 7: and I'm happy and I'm thriving. And it's funny to

867
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 7: me when I see people like bash me and I'm

868
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 7: like online, it's so easy to hate, but it's like

869
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 7: it's so easy to hate, but for me, I'm like, listen,

870
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 7: I refuse to hate. I just love, Like I just

871
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 7: want to surround myself with people that make me feel good,

872
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 7: that I make feel good, Like that's my personality. And

873
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 7: if people want to hate and say oh, X, Y

874
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 7: and Z, that's on them, like good luck, like be

875
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 7: miserable in your own life, like not, it's not gonna

876
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 7: work on me.

877
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it is hard though. I Mean, we talk

878
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: about that all the time on here, but it's still

879
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: so hard to I think it's personally, it's still hard

880
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: to read comments. I'm like, man like, but it's interesting

881
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 2: how off they have it. Like we were just saying,

882
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: she was telling me she was reading one of my

883
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: hate pages. Like they're like, that's not when she's due.

884
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, because you know when my due date

885
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 2: is and then can tell you. I'm like, please, Like,

886
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: so you talked about parenting with your ex and how

887
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 2: you guys are in alignment traditional you guys have that

888
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: same mentality. Do you still have like a very good

889
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: relationship with each other? Do you co parent? Well, what's

890
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 2: the relationship?

891
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 7: How do you think the only thing we like, my

892
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 7: kids are getting older now, Like I feel like the

893
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 7: only thing we need to discuss for my kids other

894
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 7: than that, like we don't. There's no reason for me

895
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 7: to like, sure, you talk to anyone that's in my past. Sure,

896
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 7: Like I said, I'm very present, Like I'm very more

897
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 7: part of where I am today. I don't look for

898
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 7: the future. I don't look for the past. I kind

899
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 7: of just like stabilize for the future. You know, Yeah,

900
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 7: I'm here and then like I'm prepared for left or

901
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 7: right going into the future, but like I don't. I

902
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 7: don't live my life like that, and I just feel

903
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 7: like that's what works best for me, you know.

904
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what are you guys doing on separation Anxiety? Then, like,

905
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 2: you guys, is it about your relationship? Do you bring

906
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: people on? Like what's your to get everyone to go

907
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: over and listen to that?

908
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 7: So Separation Underscore Anxiety Underscore podcast is basically just you know,

909
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 7: we talk about relationships, we talk about current events. I

910
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 7: just we shot a podcast yesterday where we wrote my

911
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 7: attorney on who basically gave legal advice Likelora.

912
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 2: Wasser you know it's mine.

913
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 7: No, no, no, his name is Jason Giller. But we

914
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 7: talked about, you know, prenups and why is it good

915
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 7: or bad to have a prenup and like are they

916
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 7: ironclad or like stuff like that, like the information people

917
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 7: want to know because I feel like I have so

918
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 7: many friends, so many guy friends that are like in

919
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 7: the process of like getting engaged, and they don't know

920
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 7: They're like, should I get a prenup?

921
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 4: And I'm like, yes, you, by the way, should Like

922
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 4: so you're just a prep Yeah, I think it's you.

923
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 7: Know, it saves a lot of heartache at the end

924
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 7: because it's like you understand exactly what you're going into.

925
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 7: You understand the process is there's no like you know.

926
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, well guessing game. But let me just say, postnups

927
00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 2: do not hold up. I learned that last time. Yeah,

928
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: the go for the pre post. I was just like,

929
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: this is true love. I don't need a prenup. We

930
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 2: need to bring up. Yeah, there's a lot of business.

931
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just, you know, it's just it's good.

932
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 7: I you know, I think there's like you listen, you

933
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 7: can be with someone for if you're with someone for

934
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 7: twenty years, twenty plus years, you need to give them

935
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 7: all your stuff. Okay, that's a long time. That's a

936
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 7: long time. But if you're with someone for two years,

937
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 7: three years, like they were not really entitled to like,

938
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 7: you know, half of whatever you have, that's like insane.

939
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think anything undertaken. I think it's based good.

940
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 7: Well, I think it's you know, I think it's based

941
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 7: on the relationship and like what you bring to the

942
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 7: table or everyone brings something, Yeah, everyone brings something different

943
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 7: to the table. I think that there's women that are

944
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 7: really pretty that just you know, hang out all day

945
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 7: and expect their husband to do everything. And there's women

946
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 7: that are really hands on and do everything, and those

947
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 7: women should be compensated for their day to day and

948
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 7: you know what they do to make you better.

949
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 2: I say amen to that. Let's say her mom now.

950
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: But I was I had like a big career and

951
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 2: then my husband is an artist, so he's gone all

952
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: the time. So when we had kids, I decided to

953
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: stay home because otherwise, no.

954
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 4: Right, you have to take care of your kids.

955
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there'd be a nanny like living their best

956
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: life with my babies and their everything. You know. But

957
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 2: now I look at I had that moment like the

958
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: Carrie Bradshaw moment in Sex and the City where she

959
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: was like she was a smart girl till she fell

960
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 2: in love. Like what did I do? You know, like

961
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: I've given up my identity, my career. So postpartum with

962
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 2: my first baby, it was so much. But I think

963
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: what you're saying makes so much sense because it was

964
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: you know, we do what we have to do, especially

965
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: when you have traveling husband and a career like that.

966
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: There was a comedian. Sorry, I was just laughing. I

967
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 2: can't remember who was now. I was watching it on Instagram.

968
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 2: But she was like, as women, we just give away

969
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 2: our name, like you know what I mean, like we

970
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: lose our name. The only time you ever hear like

971
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 2: the word you know, you ever hear your maiden name

972
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 2: is when your son calls you and ask mom, what

973
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 2: was your maiden name? You know? For I was just like,

974
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 2: you do everything away for this man, like.

975
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 7: She knows, well, you know it's funny because people always

976
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 7: ask me why did you keep your maiden name?

977
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 2: Any of you guys care, I'm now well, I say

978
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 2: that I went. I've gone back to it again. I

979
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: would never do it again. But having said that, now

980
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 2: that we're having a baby together, me and my fans,

981
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 2: and when we get married, I do think I will

982
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 2: be Russell because I'd like to at least be the

983
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 2: same name as the same name, even though my other

984
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 2: two babies aren't my last name. But I don't know.

985
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 2: I just am like, that's That's where I'm toying with

986
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 2: right now.

987
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like I don't know.

988
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 7: For me, like I kept Pippen because I've been Pippen

989
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 7: longer than I yonan, you know, so for me, I

990
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 7: have four kids that are Pippen.

991
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 4: It would just be like weird if.

992
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 7: My least, like my houses or whatever, just like stuff

993
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 7: like that wasn't under the same name as my kids.

994
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,959
Speaker 7: But if I do get remarried, like, I'll definitely change

995
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 7: my name. You know, I wouldn't mind doing that, but.

996
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 4: I wouldn't Jordan. I like it exactly. But you know

997
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 4: what's funny.

998
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 7: People think I keep my name because of like the name,

999
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 7: and I'm like, if my last name was Jones, I

1000
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 7: would still keep it, Like if it was my kid's name, like.

1001
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: People do all the time.

1002
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 3: Like my parents got divorced, my mom's life, I mean

1003
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 3: I would have kept probably.

1004
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. My mom kept Framer because she was like I was.

1005
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: I was a Cramer longer than I was a conmactly.

1006
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I feel like it's just what

1007
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 4: you're comfortable with.

1008
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, Larsa, I just love you. I'm gonna chext

1009
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 2: Adam right now and just just say you know how

1010
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 2: amazing you are. But thank you for coming on Wine down.

1011
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: We really appreciate it.

1012
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 4: Thank you guys. I had the best time. I appreciate

1013
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 4: you guys.

1014
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 3: Nice to meet.

1015
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: Everyone listened to Separation anxiety with Larsa Pippin and Marcus Jordan.

1016
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 2: I already have separation anxiety from me.

1017
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 4: I know I'm already missing you guys.

1018
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: I know. I'm like, let's be together. Yeah, can we

1019
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 2: do Miami? Can I pop the baby out?

1020
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1021
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, after baby?

1022
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 2: Wait, So I can't tell you when I'll tell you off, Eric,

1023
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 2: I'll flat into your d MS. But the we can

1024
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 2: have we should have the bachelorette party in my me.

1025
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah fun.

1026
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: Oh my husband would love that. He this is good,

1027
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 2: like I for a night. Okay, so fun, so fun.

1028
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 3: All right, I'll talk to you guys soon.

1029
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm upset. Can we slide into I can slide?

1030
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 2: Girls can slide into girls, gms. We're sliding.

1031
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 3: She was so sweet, love her love.

1032
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 2: I feel obnoxious.

1033
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 7: Hell, I know.

1034
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, we're having a meditation, Hi, like

1035
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: I was all in.

1036
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 3: The best was the dog?

1037
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:46,959
Speaker 2: Hey cruise, Hey cruise up exactly sounds and right eva

1038
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 2: witch laugh Afterwards. There was one other thing I was

1039
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 2: going to say, now I can't remember. I have my brain.

1040
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 2: It's funny though about being loud. Alan's son was like,

1041
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 2: you're so loud. I know because I'm like I'm deaf.

1042
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 2: I think the two kids. I was screaming in my

1043
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: ear because it was in the back seat. He was

1044
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 2: in the front whatever and I was in the back seat,

1045
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 2: and I just I think when I get really excited,

1046
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 2: I get loud. So I'm like so it was like, God,

1047
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 2: your soul. Lot. I was like, I know, it's just

1048
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 2: because I get really excited, like my ears are bleeding,

1049
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 2: then can I go back home? And other times okay,

1050
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 2: are more like I don't have a middle. No, no,

1051
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 2: you don't have a middle. But I don't think you're

1052
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: allowed human Well, I can't do.

1053
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 3: We're all we all can be very loud.

1054
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 2: You should catch us in the hotel room after wine down.

1055
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: We are a mess. Girls. I love you. I love

1056
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 2: you too. Thanks for pulling me out the postpartum bubble

1057
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: when I do potentially get us all interested. And you

1058
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 2: just had your outlaws leads so you know you needed

1059
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 2: you needed to. I do not have a bristle like her.

1060
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 2: In the moment, You're right with myself. You're good, all right,

1061
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 2: We'll see you next week.

1062
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: By