WEBVTT - AfroFuture with Abdul Karim Abdullah

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<v Speaker 1>Talk, let's talk talk to We're just two unapologetically black

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<v Speaker 1>women with an opinion who talks.

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<v Speaker 2>What's up y'all?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for tuning that for a new episode of

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<v Speaker 3>We Talked Back, a show dedicated to these niggas in

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<v Speaker 3>you hoes E ESU girl A J.

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<v Speaker 2>Holliday. What is that? I don't know? What's up?

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<v Speaker 1>Girl? Y'all was tearing.

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<v Speaker 2>Bam. I love y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank y'all for tuning in again. We missed y'all since

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<v Speaker 1>last Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>How was your weekend?

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<v Speaker 1>Girl?

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<v Speaker 2>Rainy?

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<v Speaker 3>It was rainy this weekend, but I did manage to

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<v Speaker 3>get out the house, put my face on, took a

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<v Speaker 3>goddamn gummy and didn't really make it out the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn because of the gummy. Yeah, you and your little

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<v Speaker 1>gummy situation. Because I remember just a couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 1>ago you had another gummy situation. Are you a gummy addict?

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<v Speaker 4>Mal?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but I like deep sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>Me and my homegirl said we was gonna make some

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<v Speaker 3>T shirts that say I love to lay down, Because bitch,

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<v Speaker 3>what I tell you, I love to lay down. Don't

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<v Speaker 3>let me lay down. I had my mind made up.

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<v Speaker 3>I was going out I laid down with a face

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<v Speaker 3>full of makeup.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let me tell you what I did on Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>I bit sixteen and a half miles in forty five minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the most I've ever done. The most I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>done in that forty five minute session, I was getting it.

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<v Speaker 2>She had down her bikes. They got time, said shin

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<v Speaker 2>shwin bikes.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, girl, I look go to I go

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<v Speaker 1>today cycle bar.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, they got shoing bikes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I go there. I'll go today at I thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. I love spin class, I love smart girl.

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<v Speaker 1>That is my new favorite shit to do. And then

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<v Speaker 1>after that, I saw a little baby. It was random,

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<v Speaker 1>one of my friends from a capitol. He was here

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<v Speaker 1>with baby and was like, come on, I got a

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<v Speaker 1>ticket for you. So I went to the show and

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<v Speaker 1>I walked past all my old niggas up to the front,

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<v Speaker 1>right up to the stage.

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<v Speaker 3>Excuse me, excellent, excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>I literally had to like walk past one of my

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<v Speaker 1>old niggas with some girl and they was like standing

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<v Speaker 1>in the aisle. I was like, excuse me, move bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't say move bitch, but that's house. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>energy energy. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that was so excellent.

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<v Speaker 3>Ain't nothing like a future flex? Yeah, the flex of

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<v Speaker 3>a nigga right quick. And that's really all because it

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<v Speaker 3>did rain. So after that, I just kind of chilled

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<v Speaker 3>for the rest of the weekend. I mean I went

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<v Speaker 3>to work, of course, but after that, I just chilled.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing else. Just a little quick flex on these holes,

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<v Speaker 1>puss as holes.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, we're gonna start stupid that news off with a song.

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<v Speaker 1>A dude, I don't know the pain.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not stupid internet news. It's not, but it is news,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's taking.

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<v Speaker 2>I love fuck it ain't just a y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Rest in peace to our good sister.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Irish from seven oh two, you know her sister

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<v Speaker 3>passed away in two thousand and eight from kwe Yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they're saying she passed. I don't know why. They

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<v Speaker 2>just said she was battling some disease for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>I love seven o two man, that was one of

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<v Speaker 3>my favorite groups, Girl, Black Jade, s WV, all ofm

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<v Speaker 3>that from that time into black girl groups.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that kill missed it. We missed it.

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<v Speaker 1>We missed them. Yeah, So rest in peace to her

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<v Speaker 1>all right?

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<v Speaker 2>So now, yeah, g Z let's get the gz ass

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<v Speaker 2>right quick.

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<v Speaker 3>So JZ and Jenny Mi are now getting a divorce

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<v Speaker 3>after two years of marriage and one baby later, Kay

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<v Speaker 3>in my mind, and he filed for divorce. Now you

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<v Speaker 3>know they always like to say, oh, it's always the

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<v Speaker 3>woman doing the paperwork. Sta Jesus said that I'm about

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<v Speaker 3>to get the fuck up out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>She was calling him the N word.

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<v Speaker 1>I really believe she was in there calling him the

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<v Speaker 1>N word when she got mad.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see that.

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<v Speaker 3>Video that resurfaced her talking about her anger issues and

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<v Speaker 3>how she didn't realize she had anger issues until she

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<v Speaker 3>got with GIZI because you were what white men and

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<v Speaker 3>they probably was letting you talk to them crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>M h.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Now you got this black man who like.

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<v Speaker 1>Chill out that video on her talking about how she

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<v Speaker 1>has dark meat on the side, but white meat keeps

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<v Speaker 1>her meaning lean. I really think that there's a big

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<v Speaker 1>part of her that felt like getting with Jezi was

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<v Speaker 1>her dating down and she probably gave him that type

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<v Speaker 1>of energy when.

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<v Speaker 2>She was mad.

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<v Speaker 1>You think so I settled for you?

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<v Speaker 2>No, ain't no the way you think.

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<v Speaker 1>You settled for If dark meat is on the side

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<v Speaker 1>and white and me keep her meaningly, did she thinks

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<v Speaker 1>she that's a fucking slave owner, white bitch. Kind of

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<v Speaker 1>complex kind of energy, like I go sneak down to

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<v Speaker 1>the slave hut and fuck the slave, but I'm with

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<v Speaker 1>my white husband. I could never be with one of them.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I was trying to point that shit

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<v Speaker 3>out when they first got engaged, like I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 3>figure out, has this nigga?

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<v Speaker 2>No I seen this, like y'all haven't seen this, And

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<v Speaker 2>now in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Video is resurfaced, and she actually said that live on

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<v Speaker 3>the real that black men are essentially a side like

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<v Speaker 3>macaroni and cheese or black eyed peas.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, wait, macaroni and cheese is very good, so you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Not just eating just that for dinner. I would, I would.

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<v Speaker 2>So I also saw this other document, I mean see it.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, I also saw this other post where this girl

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<v Speaker 3>had the actual document through the courts.

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<v Speaker 2>So Jeezi filed for divorce June fifteenth, now.

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<v Speaker 1>Right before Juneteenth. She wants to call her a nigga

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<v Speaker 1>on this fourteenth, and you were like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>it's June, it's about to be juneteenth, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>doing this no more.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, she recently she was posting videos even

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<v Speaker 3>like for Father's Day, she posted him a video. He

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<v Speaker 3>had a book just come out, and you know, she

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<v Speaker 3>posted in the caption, my husband da da da da.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, so to me, she's been trying to save face

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<v Speaker 2>face we.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't marriage why or maybe trying to save their marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, she probably want him as her husband still,

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<v Speaker 1>you never know.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate you know, I hate that.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate to see another black child without their dad

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<v Speaker 1>in the home because I mean, essentially that is a

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<v Speaker 1>black baby, So I hate that for them.

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<v Speaker 2>But who did we not see it coming.

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<v Speaker 3>It's almost like they think they're gonna get different, treated

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<v Speaker 3>different from different races of people, Like this is an

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<v Speaker 3>Archaea type of a type of person.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't have any color to it. So we don't

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<v Speaker 2>know why they're not together.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think that black men assume that other groups

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<v Speaker 3>of women, other cultures are gonna be just just totally different,

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<v Speaker 3>gonna let you do what the fuck you want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna always shut the fuck up.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just not true.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a personality trait. You don't know what you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>get from anybody, right, you know what I'm saying. But

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<v Speaker 3>Black women are seen to be like the most hard

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<v Speaker 3>to get along with, the most argumentative, always got an attitude,

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<v Speaker 3>We got a lot of shit to have an attitude about. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>but we still stay with y'all, l ass for a

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<v Speaker 3>very long time. But if a black man has followed

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<v Speaker 3>for divorce from your ass, I need to know why.

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<v Speaker 3>I really really want to know why. And I never invested.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah the man, So I think she's sick. She gives

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<v Speaker 3>sickening energy over the damn Internet.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe we'll see some more about this story later on

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<v Speaker 3>to actually understand why.

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<v Speaker 2>But they do have a prenup.

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<v Speaker 3>They got the prenup actually the day before they got married,

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<v Speaker 3>and one may say that she might be able to

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<v Speaker 3>dispute it. Maybe she'll say she did it she signed

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<v Speaker 3>under durest because it was just the day before she's

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to get married.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows. We'll see what happens though. Well, good luck

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<v Speaker 2>to both of them. Oh, speaking of breakup.

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<v Speaker 1>More breakup news, Tiana Taylor and Imon Shemper are separated.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not divorced, but they've been separated for a minute now, apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>according to Tiana, she posted on social media that it

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of conversations going on, and she just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to clear the air that they didn't break up

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<v Speaker 1>over infidelity, that they had other issues in their marriage

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<v Speaker 1>and that was the reason for their departure. But they

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<v Speaker 1>copare well and they still best friends. So maybe they'll

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<v Speaker 1>come back together one day. Who knows. They were married

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<v Speaker 1>for seven years together for ten. I liked them as

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<v Speaker 1>a couple.

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<v Speaker 2>I like him.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, y'all, this bitch slid in his deals last night.

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<v Speaker 1>I hey, big head, that nig and voice memos that

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<v Speaker 1>I know them dms. Both of the dms blew up,

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<v Speaker 1>both of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you know, y'all got the ladies at the niggas, okay, right,

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<v Speaker 2>both of them ms? Oh goodness, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I like, I don't know in my spirit, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>probably wrong, and forgive me if I'm wrong, But I

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<v Speaker 1>just feel like Tianna Taylor and Lari Harvey have like

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<v Speaker 1>a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>In a relationship, thing not in a relationship, but like we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Best friends, we have fun together, but we also might

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<v Speaker 1>fuck every now and then kind of thing. Why would

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<v Speaker 1>you think that though, just because of how they be

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<v Speaker 1>like hugged up on each other when they're out.

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<v Speaker 2>I never really even know they hang out. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>see them hanging out. But maybe I'm wrong. You know

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<v Speaker 2>who you know, but I see, I mean, they be

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<v Speaker 2>like you know in your mind. See sorry if I'm wrong. Nah, bitch,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's on your mind. Man together and not

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<v Speaker 2>the rubbing absick man? What else? Have a girl? All right?

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<v Speaker 2>So halle Berry is pissed at Drake.

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<v Speaker 3>So apparently her people reached out to his people and

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<v Speaker 3>vice versa wanted to use her image for his album.

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<v Speaker 2>Artwork, and she said hell to the motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 3>Nah, and this nigga still took it upon himself and

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<v Speaker 3>used her image, and she feels like that's like a

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<v Speaker 3>real life slap in the face. Fuck you girl, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna do what I want. So apparently they went to

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<v Speaker 3>Geddy Images, who owns the image, which I just.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate that.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate that somebody can sneak take a picture of you,

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<v Speaker 3>or even if like you actually pose for a picture.

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<v Speaker 3>And because they took the picture, my image no longer

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<v Speaker 3>belongs to me. My likeness isn't mine. No that, so

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<v Speaker 3>Drake has her covered in slime.

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<v Speaker 1>She doesn't well, I mean, Nickelodeon slimed her. It was

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<v Speaker 1>Nickelodeon who slammed her. It wasn't Drake. But I can't

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<v Speaker 1>understand why she's upset. But I can also understand why

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, is it really a big deal?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it really a big deal?

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<v Speaker 3>Why did you even ask me? If he was gonna

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<v Speaker 3>do what the fuck you wanted in the first place?

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<v Speaker 2>Why ask me.

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<v Speaker 1>As a as a what's the word I'm looking for?

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<v Speaker 2>As a cancer?

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<v Speaker 1>Just as a consideration for you.

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<v Speaker 2>That is why I asked.

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<v Speaker 1>But the image don't belong to you, So I asked

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<v Speaker 1>you to be kind. But really I didn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you anyway. And that's basically what Drake's people is

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<v Speaker 1>saying by using it. And I doubt Drake even knew.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure if Drake knew that she said no, he

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<v Speaker 1>probably would have been like, all right, let's find something else.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he probably really wanted to use that image.

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<v Speaker 3>Or maybe it's his people like get that image from me,

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<v Speaker 3>and they got it. Listen, Drake have so much trouble

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<v Speaker 3>anytime he do anything. Remember he did the Vogue and

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<v Speaker 3>Vogue suit him for using a fake Vogue magazine.

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<v Speaker 2>Just because why are you doing what the fuck you want, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>why are you doing that? You can't do what you want?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you can.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm mad me and you took a Vogue magazine and

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<v Speaker 1>posted pictures with it. Wouldn't nobody to give a fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Yeah, until we got real

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<v Speaker 1>big Yeah, it's just because it's here.

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<v Speaker 2>My poor baby, he just touched by this be defending

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<v Speaker 2>bullshit because it's my man, my man, my man.

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<v Speaker 3>So Tyler Perry is in the news, okay, Uh for

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<v Speaker 3>his thoughts on women. Okay, black women in particular. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>he says, in our society right now, No, let me start,

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<v Speaker 3>let me read the full thing. He said, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of women, especially black women. And I might get in

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<v Speaker 3>trouble for saying this, but I will. And he carries on.

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<v Speaker 3>He's says, in our society right now, black women are

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<v Speaker 3>making a lot more money, for the most part than

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<v Speaker 3>black men.

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<v Speaker 2>If you could.

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<v Speaker 3>Find love, if that man works at whatever job, and

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<v Speaker 3>it is a good man, and it's good to you

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<v Speaker 3>and honors you and honors a house, and honors his

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<v Speaker 3>wife and does what he can because his gift might

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<v Speaker 3>not be your gift. And that's okay, that's not he says,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not somebody that's beneath you. That's somebody who came

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<v Speaker 3>to love you at your worth. So he's basically saying,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, meet people where they are. And he adds

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<v Speaker 3>and says, as long as he's secure in himself to

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<v Speaker 3>know white to know that. Excuse me, And he says,

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<v Speaker 3>as long as he's secure in himself to know that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>she makes most of the money.

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<v Speaker 2>All I could pay is a life bill.

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<v Speaker 3>As long as she's comfortable enough to say I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to cover the mortgage and all the other stuff, that's fine. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 3>that's fine. Right, But do you think that most men

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<v Speaker 3>are able to rest in that position? Because it's an

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<v Speaker 3>unnatural position.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you know, I can't say that most men are.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a friend who left her husband because he

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<v Speaker 1>just wasn't earning as much as her. Right, he just

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't as ambitious, Yeah, as ambitious, as ambitious or earning

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<v Speaker 1>as much money as her.

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<v Speaker 4>But he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He loved her dirty drawers, he didn't step out on her.

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<v Speaker 1>They had fun together, he was a good father to

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<v Speaker 1>their kids. He just did all the things except that,

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<v Speaker 1>and she left them, and she left them. They separated

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<v Speaker 1>for many years, and then she went back. She went

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<v Speaker 1>back to him because she was like, I had to

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<v Speaker 1>realize that what he provided was greater than money, what

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<v Speaker 1>he provided me was greater than money. I went back outside,

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<v Speaker 1>and I couldn't find that kind of love that I

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<v Speaker 1>had with my husband. I couldn't find it. So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's just about where your value lies. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>what's more important to you? Is it things or is

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<v Speaker 1>it having someone who can really love you?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 3>So on the only drawback I see, right, the only

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<v Speaker 3>issue I see what he said was I just don't

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<v Speaker 3>really like when people get on public platforms, especially being

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<v Speaker 3>somebody as big as he is, right, and then singles

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<v Speaker 3>out black women collectively and generalizing situations because majority of

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<v Speaker 3>black women are into trenches with black men. And when

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<v Speaker 3>I say, like, we might be making more, we might

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<v Speaker 3>be making less, but nonetheless we are with a black man.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So I feel like we're the only group.

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<v Speaker 3>Of women where somebody's constantly telling us y'all need to

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<v Speaker 3>bring y'all standards down.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think we're the only group of women in

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<v Speaker 1>this country that make more than our don't count.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even think it's white women are making more

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<v Speaker 1>than white men.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, I don't think that black women are

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<v Speaker 3>making more money on a greater scale than black men.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't bel I come from a corporate setting, so

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<v Speaker 3>I know that black men, and that's just my small

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<v Speaker 3>sample size, right, the black men have higher positions and

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<v Speaker 3>they are higher earners. So I don't think I haven't

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<v Speaker 3>seen any statistics to to to prove that, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I know black women come on more debt.

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<v Speaker 3>I've actually looked at those statistics because we talk about

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<v Speaker 3>higher education and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Your man might have never went to college.

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<v Speaker 3>You started a trucking company making half a million dollars,

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<v Speaker 3>You got half a million dollars in student loans. You

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. So it just I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>where the stats come from that people like to use.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think he generalized a lot of things in

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<v Speaker 3>a statement he made. And I just want black men

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<v Speaker 3>to talk to other black men, right, because I always

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<v Speaker 3>say this, Black women we talk to each.

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<v Speaker 2>Other, but we talk to each other, but we also

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<v Speaker 2>talk to men.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not fair to tell men that they can't

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<v Speaker 1>talk to women when we sit on our show and

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<v Speaker 1>literally talk to men all the time on what they

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<v Speaker 1>need to do and what they should do.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>So I feel like I feel like when we talk

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<v Speaker 3>about it, really, when I think about when I started

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<v Speaker 3>talking about men, I really be thinking about men that

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<v Speaker 3>I've dealt with or the type of man that I want,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really be trying to generalize, like, oh, all,

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<v Speaker 3>y'all niggas need to lower y'all standards, right, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>say no shit like that. That's really what he's saying

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<v Speaker 3>on a public platform, and we are not Tyler Perry.

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<v Speaker 3>Tyler Perry is a huge personality, you know. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think he's saying lower your standards. He said, if this

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<v Speaker 3>man is providing all the things that money.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a given, a given, I know, because look at

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<v Speaker 1>the status of relationships in our country right now with

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<v Speaker 1>black people.

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<v Speaker 2>If that was a given, then things would be better.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't you think so you think that black women collectively

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<v Speaker 3>need to lower their standards.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't think nobody's everybodys I just don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you should base your relationship solely on money. That's all

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>But look at the economy right now, right and I've

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<v Speaker 3>never been in a relationship that I based solely on money.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever, Right, But.

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<v Speaker 3>The more you start loving man because you fucking love them,

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<v Speaker 3>you start reflecting, like maybe I should start focusing on

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<v Speaker 3>the money. Most women aren't focusing on the money. So

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<v Speaker 3>for him to make a blaked statement like that, it's

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<v Speaker 3>just not true. And I feel like we might verbally

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<v Speaker 3>say that, but that's not really how we live in

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<v Speaker 3>our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, you know a bitch taking care of a

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<v Speaker 2>man right now?

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<v Speaker 3>I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't think of nobody I know, But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know nobody taking care of no man. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>know women who make more than their men. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Does that count as taken care of them if they

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<v Speaker 1>make more?

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<v Speaker 2>If he's just paying a light bold like he just suggested,

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<v Speaker 2>he was wild with it, just the lights.

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<v Speaker 1>He was wilding with that statement. But I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I know people who, you know, they have

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<v Speaker 1>their dynamic that works, and their man is not the

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<v Speaker 1>bread winner they are, you know, so and I envy

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<v Speaker 1>their relationship. It's beautiful, they're happy, they look like they're

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<v Speaker 1>having fun. They out on boats, and she probably futting

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the bill, you know, But everything else

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<v Speaker 1>is just immaculate.

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<v Speaker 2>For them, soide looking in I don't know, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>For sure, how he said if the man is comfortable

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<v Speaker 3>in that position, But oftentimes men aren't comfortable in that position.

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<v Speaker 2>They want to be able to provide, right.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you can get one that's not an ego

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<v Speaker 3>about you making more money than them and not trying

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<v Speaker 3>to make you feel bad for having higher education or

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<v Speaker 3>earning more, then it's cool. But I think a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of problems. I don't think it comes from like a

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<v Speaker 3>woman debo in the situation. It's because that's not a

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<v Speaker 3>natural position for a man. He wants to be the

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<v Speaker 3>one doing those things. And that's why you'll see like

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<v Speaker 3>and I hate to use celebrities for example, right, but

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<v Speaker 3>this is like the best reference for most people. You'll see,

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<v Speaker 3>they were with this one wife and they struggle, struggle, struggled, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and then.

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<v Speaker 2>When they get on they marry what they really want.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. So I don't think we should be suggesting struggle

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<v Speaker 3>love to black women because no other culture gets that.

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<v Speaker 3>Look a look at the passport bros. They go out

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<v Speaker 3>the country so they can get somebody who costs less. Basically, Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 1>With celebrities, the majority of us are not gonna be celebrities, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the majority of people are not gonna be celebrities.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's like you're gonna get what you get. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna date on your level, and that's probably gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>your level for most of the rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I feel like black men are hypergaments. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>feel like black men really date down how they suggest

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<v Speaker 3>Black women to date down.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think so.

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<v Speaker 2>Hypergaments man.

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<v Speaker 1>Black men will find a woman that he like ringing

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<v Speaker 1>up shit at Target and marry her because of who

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<v Speaker 1>she is. In love. I don't think women aren't typically

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<v Speaker 1>going to pick up a man for Target. No shade

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<v Speaker 1>on Target workers. I love y'all and I love Target,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, a successful woman is just that doesn'tcount.

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<v Speaker 1>Like going to pick up the guy working the registered Target.

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<v Speaker 1>She want him doing more and he might be the

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<v Speaker 1>best nigga for her, you know what I'm saying. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I think. That's what Tyler Perry's trying to say.

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<v Speaker 1>But like you at home lonely because he work at Target.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't feel like he has to say that.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like women are oftentimes dating somebody that's not

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<v Speaker 3>on a level especially in a black community. So why

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<v Speaker 3>are you trying to reiterate that? We're trying to get

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<v Speaker 3>out of that? So how do we get out of that?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you see what I'm saying? You talk to the men,

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<v Speaker 3>so the men know the standard. But maybe grow together,

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<v Speaker 3>perhaps and your twenties. Absolutely grow together, y'all, both for real,

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<v Speaker 3>for real in the trenches when you find yourself so

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<v Speaker 3>single in your thirties and forties, like you're really looking

0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:54.080
<v Speaker 3>for somebody, not so much of growing, like merging when

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<v Speaker 3>you have.

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<v Speaker 1>What I got?

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<v Speaker 2>What can we do to make this bigger? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>But if we always starting at ground zero, you stole

0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:04.040
<v Speaker 3>at ground zero and I gotta work with you that.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are we asking black women to do that? It's

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<v Speaker 1>a rat rac and it sucks. Knty, What the fuck

0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:12.879
<v Speaker 1>you want? A fucking metal?

0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:20.720
<v Speaker 2>What movie is that? I don't know, Bar Centers Club, whatever, y'all,

0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:21.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm lying.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't tell mom the Babysitter's Dead with Christina Applegate, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>Why I'm gonna know that girl? Why wouldn't you know that?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a cult classic?

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all? Listen?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So today's guest. Today's guest is the CEO of

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<v Speaker 3>Afro Future.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all going this year. We're going, yes, formerly known as

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<v Speaker 2>Afro Tella. Yeah, it's lit.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going.

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<v Speaker 2>M y'all stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, y'all listen. So today's guest is the CEO

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<v Speaker 3>and founder of one of the world's largest festivals, a Future,

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<v Speaker 3>formerly known as Afro Cella. Y'all welcome, mister.

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<v Speaker 2>Abdul Kareem Abdullah to we talk back. Yay, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for coming on. We excited.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, I'm excited too. I'm excited to be here with

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<v Speaker 4>you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, we're trying to come party. I'm just gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>that out period. You trying to go to party?

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<v Speaker 1>Period?

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody going?

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<v Speaker 1>I see.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Yeah, it's very exciting, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean the Year of Return sparked you know a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of emotion and people and definitely has attracted a

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<v Speaker 5>lot more people to come to Ghana to you know,

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<v Speaker 5>to one celebrate, like you said, turn up, but also

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<v Speaker 5>just kind of reconnect with people, you know, understand a

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<v Speaker 5>different narrative than what you've been taught, you know, or

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<v Speaker 5>what you may have known before. You know, it's a

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<v Speaker 5>great opportunity to kind of build that bar and to

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<v Speaker 5>build that Bridge as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So talk to us about like how you guys started

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<v Speaker 1>with this, because this was like at least six or

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<v Speaker 1>seven years ago when y'all started.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, I mean we you know, got us home for

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<v Speaker 5>us and like more African countries, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 5>tend to travel back home in December to the you know,

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<v Speaker 5>to to see family, to see friends, to celebrate, and

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<v Speaker 5>it's really just kind of like a two week three

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<v Speaker 5>week long festival, depending on how long you have the

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<v Speaker 5>ability to stay. And you know when I when I

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<v Speaker 5>was going back, I just realized that it wasn't a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of Americans there, and you know, at the time,

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<v Speaker 5>there was still a lot of you know, cultural wars,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, we wanted to be able to kind

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<v Speaker 5>of have change the direction from you know, he has

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<v Speaker 5>appropriation to like education and inviting people back. It just

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<v Speaker 5>so happened online that three years later will be the

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<v Speaker 5>year return, right. So when I was going with my friend,

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<v Speaker 5>my partner and I we were going back and forth

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<v Speaker 5>to Ghana, and we just kind of started bringing friends

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<v Speaker 5>and recording our experiences, uh, and then that channeled them

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<v Speaker 5>to us doing events in New York City. Eventually we

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<v Speaker 5>were just kind of in the swing of things, and

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<v Speaker 5>we knew that we needed a way to kind of

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<v Speaker 5>get people to speak to each other because we were

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<v Speaker 5>party all night and sleep all day and god and

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<v Speaker 5>during December because everybody's on is on holiday, and we

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<v Speaker 5>wanted to change that a little bit, bring more data

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<v Speaker 5>type of events, get more people speaking to each other,

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<v Speaker 5>and see what we could build as far as creativity

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<v Speaker 5>with the people who are doing some amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>Work and about already.

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<v Speaker 1>So you were living in the States, you were living

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<v Speaker 1>in the States and just going back to Ghana.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I grew up. I grew up in Ghana.

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<v Speaker 4>I went to school there for eight years.

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<v Speaker 5>I came back here to the US, went to high

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<v Speaker 5>school and to college, and then yeah, we would go

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<v Speaker 5>back annually.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>Now I go back multiple times a year, but we'll

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<v Speaker 5>go back annually to Ghana December and just really tapping

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<v Speaker 5>with all the folks and friends from all over the

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<v Speaker 5>world and family from all over the world that comes

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<v Speaker 5>back home to kind of celebrate the holiday season.

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<v Speaker 3>So are y'all never planning to have the well now

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<v Speaker 3>Afro future in the States in America at any point?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's not our goal. We'll probably have some

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<v Speaker 5>type of experience that you know, really markets and encourages

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<v Speaker 5>people to come back to the content that our goals

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<v Speaker 5>around building the resources on the continent, building away on

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<v Speaker 5>the continent. Again, people don't want to come to the continent.

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<v Speaker 5>That's that's a part of our goal, that tourism, right,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I think before us, you know, there have

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<v Speaker 5>been several efforts in different times, you know where people

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<v Speaker 5>have come back to Africa, but not in as much

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<v Speaker 5>in mass as we have been able to kind of

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<v Speaker 5>channel through Ghana. So we want to continue to educate

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<v Speaker 5>people by encouraging them to come to the continent and

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<v Speaker 5>not just Ghana, but all the countries around the continent

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<v Speaker 5>that look at the opportunities that exist.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Africa is the youngest continent in the world.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, in the world.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, by twenty fifty one or four people will

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<v Speaker 5>be African, you know, so that means there's a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of jobs that are going to be creative. Industry is

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<v Speaker 5>going to becoming to Africa. You know, we're going through

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<v Speaker 5>a whole industrial revolution. I love it, and I think

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<v Speaker 5>black people, black people should should be a part of

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<v Speaker 5>that industrial growth, right, we should be able to under

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<v Speaker 5>dispel those narratives that separate us and find ways to

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<v Speaker 5>come together and build.

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<v Speaker 4>With each other.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's some of the work that we're doing on

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<v Speaker 5>the continent, not just us, but across the continent, all

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<v Speaker 5>the people that are building these similar properties.

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<v Speaker 1>So in twenty seventeen, y'all hat your first one and

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<v Speaker 1>you were like you and your homeboy was just sitting

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<v Speaker 1>around you was like, man, let's throw a big ass party.

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<v Speaker 1>Like how did y'all come up with the idea?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So it's funny because we were doing events in

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<v Speaker 5>the US and we were very successful because, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>afrobeats was not was very niche at the time.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't on radio.

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<v Speaker 5>So I remember the first time I ever heard, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>afrobeat saw on radio and how it made me feel.

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<v Speaker 4>So we would do events and we have big numbers.

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<v Speaker 5>People were flying from over the states to come to

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<v Speaker 5>our parties because unlike now, it wasn't as popular when

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<v Speaker 5>we were doing it. So we had a lot of audacity.

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<v Speaker 5>Decided to go to God and just kind of throw

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<v Speaker 5>a party, and it didn't do well. The party, the

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<v Speaker 5>first one we ever did, didn't do well. So it

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<v Speaker 5>was just kind of for me it was a silver

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<v Speaker 5>lining because I saw something else. I saw that there

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<v Speaker 5>was a lot of amazing talent that were performing and

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<v Speaker 5>that they were performing hard despite the event not going

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<v Speaker 5>as planned, and I wanted to kind of tap into

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<v Speaker 5>that talent and be able to understand it. More so,

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<v Speaker 5>I knew that we had to kind of move away.

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<v Speaker 5>In addition to that, so many people that are coming

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<v Speaker 5>to Ghana and December are doing amazing things no matter

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<v Speaker 5>where they are right whether they're in the States, their

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<v Speaker 5>record label execs, their creative geniuses, their scientists or doctors,

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<v Speaker 5>their nurses, you know, not only in Americas, but in

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<v Speaker 5>London and in Berlin and Japan and Australia. So it

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<v Speaker 5>just I felt like it was this service to the

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<v Speaker 5>people or the continent who were doing some amazing things

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<v Speaker 5>not to be able to tap in with some of

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<v Speaker 5>these people when they came to the continent, and we

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<v Speaker 5>knew that, like the festival will be able to kind

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<v Speaker 5>of bring that energy around what we were trying to do.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's how the idea for the festival came. But

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<v Speaker 5>it took some time to kind of figure out what

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<v Speaker 5>it was going to look like, where it was going

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<v Speaker 5>to be, how it was going to feel and how

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<v Speaker 5>it was going to pay for.

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<v Speaker 4>So so yeah, certainly, right, yeah, exactly. So my partner,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, but he's a big supporter.

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<v Speaker 5>Like you know, when we were finally ready and I

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<v Speaker 5>just kind of knew where I wanted the event to happen,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, how I wanted to shape up.

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<v Speaker 4>When I told him, he didn't hesitate.

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<v Speaker 5>Like the same day we had the venue booked and

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<v Speaker 5>we had about seven months to plan the first one.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I think that no matter how, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>if you have an idea, you have something good to

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<v Speaker 5>put into the world, you just have to kind of

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<v Speaker 5>put it out there and like the world will galvinize

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<v Speaker 5>around you to kind of build it, build it.

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<v Speaker 2>So how would you say it is the festival has

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<v Speaker 2>evolved since it's inception?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, I mean, well you said before it was

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<v Speaker 5>you know, Afrotilla was and you know Afro Future is, right.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that what we learned in our journey to

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<v Speaker 5>kind of invite people to Africa was that one there

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<v Speaker 5>has to be a lot of education around people who

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<v Speaker 5>were interested in visiting the continent. It's not just you know,

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<v Speaker 5>tourism on the continent is not what it is in

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<v Speaker 5>the Caribbean, it's not what it is in Europe. It's

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<v Speaker 5>very brand new, right even to each other. Right within

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<v Speaker 5>the continent, people have not visited each other's countries because

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<v Speaker 5>you know, we don't have It's not as easy to

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<v Speaker 5>kind of hop on a flight and go to La

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<v Speaker 5>like it is in Africa. Is not as easy to

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<v Speaker 5>do that because you might have to leave the continent

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<v Speaker 5>to go to another country on the continent, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>just kind of our way the way the countries are

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<v Speaker 5>set up, or you might need a visa to go

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<v Speaker 5>to another country on the continent, which was asinine, but

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<v Speaker 5>you know that's what happened. So really, you know, our

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<v Speaker 5>ability to kind of bring people together was a goal

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<v Speaker 5>for us and putting us together.

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<v Speaker 1>So all right, I might this is gonna sound ignorant,

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<v Speaker 1>but just roll with it, Okay. So the continent of Africa,

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<v Speaker 1>you have several countries, so fifty fifty four countries, so

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't be similar to like are you know how

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<v Speaker 1>in the USA we're going to different states, right, so

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:05.040
<v Speaker 1>within different the countries, you would need like a visa

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 1>to go to every country, or you can just travel

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<v Speaker 1>to different countries in the continent without it.

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<v Speaker 5>So with your American passport, you can probably visit more

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<v Speaker 5>countries than a citizen of Somoya can visit countries on

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 5>the continent. That really yeah, you might be able to

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<v Speaker 5>you can get into South Africa, but a citizen of

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<v Speaker 5>Nigerian Nigeria needs a visa to get into South Africa.

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<v Speaker 4>Your American past.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting, Why is that.

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<v Speaker 5>Because of neo colonials. A lot of people don't understand this,

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<v Speaker 5>but like you know, a lot of African countries recently

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<v Speaker 5>you hear about the coupdatars happening. Yeah, I love it

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<v Speaker 5>because you know it's just people fighting back, right. You know,

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 5>the internet is allowed as educating us. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of things that we need to learn and

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:56.720
<v Speaker 5>un learn about Africa, you know what I mean. And

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<v Speaker 5>you know, just kind of how you're surprised that your

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<v Speaker 5>American passport can get you in an African country and

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<v Speaker 5>an African when an African passport can't get into that country.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just the way you know, the powers that be

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<v Speaker 4>have set up you know, you know the world.

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<v Speaker 5>And the hope is that we can untangle that and

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<v Speaker 5>we can you know, encourage more black people to kind

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<v Speaker 5>of learn about each other, Like we need to learn

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<v Speaker 5>about each other in order for us to build with

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<v Speaker 5>each other, you know what I mean. It's unfortunate, but

0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:25.600
<v Speaker 5>that's that's what it is right now. But there's a

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<v Speaker 5>new I just kind of feel like, if I'm going

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<v Speaker 5>to say the bad side, that you say the optimistic

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<v Speaker 5>side as well. Like there's a new trade agreement that

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<v Speaker 5>the African Union has adopted. It's called the af CFTA,

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<v Speaker 5>which is the African Free Trade Agreement. And the hope

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 5>is that we can get more I guess, cooperation amongst

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 5>the African countries to do more trade with each other

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 5>and to also you know, you know, reduce barriers between

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<v Speaker 5>people being able to get from country to country without

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<v Speaker 5>visas and things of that nature. Yeah, it is very

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:02.560
<v Speaker 5>easy for you as an American to go, you know,

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 5>within the States than it is for African countries to

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:09.760
<v Speaker 5>go within the African countries. But you know, on most maps,

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of people they draw Africa smaller, but most

0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:18.960
<v Speaker 5>all the continents can fit on the African continent right right, It's.

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<v Speaker 1>Never to size. What would you say is the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>hardship of building something like this because this I mean

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<v Speaker 1>has grown really really huge. What would you say was

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest hardship of building it so far thus far?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean I was saying there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>learning on the job for us, and you know, I

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 5>think we also scaled very fast. You know, we went

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 5>from forty seven hundred people year one to twelve thousand

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 5>year two, to ninety to six thousand year three.

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:49.000
<v Speaker 4>Last year we did thirty one thousand.

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 5>You know, So we haven't been able to match the

0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 5>amount of skill we have to the amount of money

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:57.080
<v Speaker 5>we've been able to raise. So that has been a

0:33:57.240 --> 0:34:00.120
<v Speaker 5>difficult process, right being able to kind of make can

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 5>make sense for all the people who are coming to

0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 5>the event. But thankfully we've been able to kind of

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:09.799
<v Speaker 5>make lemon out of lemonades, lemonades out of lemon and.

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:14.320
<v Speaker 4>You know, we've been able to kind of put on

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 4>a very successful event.

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:17.959
<v Speaker 5>You know, it's attracting people from all over the world,

0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:22.480
<v Speaker 5>celebrities and artists and talent, and it's been going pretty well.

0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Do you get to enjoy it? Are you just like

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 1>running around like a chicken with your hair cut off

0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 1>for the whole time because you're working, or do you

0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 1>actually get to enjoy what you create?

0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? For the first couple of years, I didn't enjoy it.

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 5>The only way I knew the experience was through the

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:39.359
<v Speaker 5>feedback I was getting from people, and that was really

0:34:39.680 --> 0:34:42.319
<v Speaker 5>like the fuel that allowed that motivated me to keep going.

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 4>How people felt about it, how it impacted their lives.

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 5>Some people brought their whole families, their mothers, their their wives,

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 5>their kids, and just kind of seeing how it affected

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 5>other people was something that kind of encouraged me, you know,

0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:57.920
<v Speaker 5>because in the first couple of years of a business,

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:00.200
<v Speaker 5>you're not really seeing you know.

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 4>And also we had a very small team, you know.

0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:04.879
<v Speaker 4>We've since expanded our team.

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 5>So last year and the year before were the first

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 5>year is that I got to actually experience it with

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:12.520
<v Speaker 5>people and walk through the entire field while people are

0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 5>enjoying it and watching hearing them talk and just you know,

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 5>people watching, and it's an incredible experience.

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:21.320
<v Speaker 4>It's an incredible experience.

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 1>What would you say is your favorite, absolute favorite part

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:27.920
<v Speaker 1>of the festival so I can know where I need

0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 1>to be when I go.

0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:34.240
<v Speaker 5>My favorite part of the festival obviously like the different

0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:38.320
<v Speaker 5>photo moments and interactive moments that people get to enjoy

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:41.480
<v Speaker 5>on the field and watching them interact with them. I

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:44.160
<v Speaker 5>think that is really really cool. I think also just

0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:48.920
<v Speaker 5>kind of watching you know, people connect, you know. You know,

0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:53.439
<v Speaker 5>I've seen engagements happen on our festival field. I've seen

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 5>you know, married couples come out because they met at

0:35:56.520 --> 0:35:59.840
<v Speaker 5>our festival field, and those testimonias kind of keep it

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:02.520
<v Speaker 5>like you know, and also just kind of seeing how

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:07.360
<v Speaker 5>people react to Ghana, like you know, having you know,

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:09.800
<v Speaker 5>one of the coolest things that I felt was that

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 5>Ghana so safe as a country.

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:12.560
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 5>I was walking down, I was driving my car, and

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:17.320
<v Speaker 5>as I was driving my car, I look out my

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:20.360
<v Speaker 5>window to the left and I see two of my

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:24.640
<v Speaker 5>friends from Brooklyn, New York walking the streets of our crop,

0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:27.200
<v Speaker 5>like you know, in the middle of the city. And

0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:29.880
<v Speaker 5>that was such a proud moment for me because it

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 5>was just kind of like, yo, they walking down, they

0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 5>walking down a crowd, like it's flatbush, like you know

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 5>what I mean.

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:36.480
<v Speaker 4>I felt like I was.

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:40.960
<v Speaker 5>Kind of kind of see them just walking there, free

0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:43.960
<v Speaker 5>about it, you know. So, you know, there's so many

0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:46.719
<v Speaker 5>amazing things to do in Ghana, whether it's if you

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 5>want a club, you can party all night in the morning,

0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:52.120
<v Speaker 5>you know, people literally their viral videos and.

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:54.840
<v Speaker 4>People on the beach at eight am. You know, people

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:55.360
<v Speaker 4>you can do that.

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 5>But there are so many cool restaurants, you know, there's

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 5>so many you know, educational activities that's happening on the ground.

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 5>There's so many, you know, sights to see, places to

0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:11.320
<v Speaker 5>visit once you come there. For me, as the beaches,

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 5>I love to drive. There's a beach that Blue Lagoon

0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 5>is about two and a half hours away from a craft.

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 5>It's so serene, it's quiet, it's private, it's clean. You know,

0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 5>it's one of my favorite places to go when I

0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:27.280
<v Speaker 5>just want to hear myself in the ocean, the ocean

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:27.840
<v Speaker 5>hit you know.

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:30.000
<v Speaker 4>I think it's just like one of the best places

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:31.360
<v Speaker 4>in the cross And.

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:35.680
<v Speaker 2>So do you be dancing?

0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:36.479
<v Speaker 1>Can you dance?

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:37.439
<v Speaker 2>You don't go to the club?

0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:40.800
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm in New Yorker, man, you know, you know,

0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:42.279
<v Speaker 4>you got to be able to do a little one

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:45.440
<v Speaker 4>two step, you know, like, can't be stiff. You know,

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:47.560
<v Speaker 4>I don't have paint on the wall, you know. I

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 4>you know, I was a part of the Little Shake era.

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:52.880
<v Speaker 4>I got a little shake in. They're a little five thousand,

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:57.920
<v Speaker 4>so a little bit, you know, and you know, when

0:37:57.920 --> 0:37:59.400
<v Speaker 4>the pends of that from meets. I could do it.

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 4>I can do a little you know, I could.

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:07.399
<v Speaker 1>Do it a little two step, yeah, you know, shoulder work.

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:09.160
<v Speaker 4>I got it all.

0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:12.160
<v Speaker 2>All right.

0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:15.760
<v Speaker 3>So, at the end of the twenty twenty two Afrochella,

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:19.440
<v Speaker 3>you guys announced that the festival would not be returning.

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of the festival goers are probably upset.

0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:26.080
<v Speaker 3>But now we find that the name of the festival

0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:28.120
<v Speaker 3>has just changed now to Afro Future.

0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:30.239
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about what's going on with that.

0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, afro Tella was and after Future is.

0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 5>You know, not only did we feel internally that it

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 5>was time for us to kind of grow into our

0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 5>step into our big boy pants as far as shoes

0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:44.560
<v Speaker 5>and what we wanted to tell. As far as the

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 5>storytelling component, we knew that the future is Africa and

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:51.120
<v Speaker 5>we want our festival to be synonymous with that. As

0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 5>far as the connectivity of the bridge that's being built

0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:57.759
<v Speaker 5>between the diaspora and the continent. You know, we don't

0:38:57.760 --> 0:39:01.359
<v Speaker 5>have any issues with the the team. We just really

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:03.839
<v Speaker 5>was just kind of standing on ground as far as

0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:07.239
<v Speaker 5>what we felt like we deserved and who we were.

0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:10.280
<v Speaker 5>You know, eventually we was able to come to an agreement,

0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:13.279
<v Speaker 5>and that's why we exist how we exist now as

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:15.759
<v Speaker 5>a future I like it.

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:19.759
<v Speaker 1>Can you tell us, like, what's the lineup for this December?

0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 4>It's coming up. I mean, we have a deal to

0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:26.120
<v Speaker 4>do with exclusive release, but it's definitely coming up within

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:29.759
<v Speaker 4>the next week or so, so you all get that information.

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:32.839
<v Speaker 5>But it's gonna be pretty exciting in the past. Last

0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:35.800
<v Speaker 5>year we had Burn and Boy headline alongside Fireboy and

0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:39.719
<v Speaker 5>a few other exciting acts. Twenty twenty one we had

0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:42.520
<v Speaker 5>Whist Kid, we had our Lennox and a few others.

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 5>So this year is gonna be not in short of that,

0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:46.240
<v Speaker 5>it's gonna be pretty amazing.

0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:47.840
<v Speaker 3>What do you think about Burn and Boys saying it

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:52.279
<v Speaker 3>that we don't have any culture over here black Americans.

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:53.520
<v Speaker 2>I think that.

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:56.920
<v Speaker 5>I think what he meant and what he said are

0:39:56.960 --> 0:39:59.080
<v Speaker 5>two different things, you know what I mean. But you know,

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:01.920
<v Speaker 5>I think think it was all off to interpretation. Like

0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:05.640
<v Speaker 5>I said earlier, we we definitely need to learn more

0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:09.600
<v Speaker 5>about each other's coaches and understand each other's perspectives, and

0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 5>I think that would have formed how we should speak

0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:16.239
<v Speaker 5>on or about each other, you know. So, yeah, there's

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:18.400
<v Speaker 5>a lot of education on both sides of the spectrum

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:20.800
<v Speaker 5>that need to be had in order for us to

0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:24.799
<v Speaker 5>kind of stop these little cultural awards that that continue to.

0:40:24.880 --> 0:40:25.400
<v Speaker 4>Kind of purpose.

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 1>What's your background? Is your background like, where's where'd you

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:28.560
<v Speaker 1>go to school for?

0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 4>I went to school, funny enough, for bio psychology and

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:35.000
<v Speaker 4>public health.

0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:37.600
<v Speaker 2>You know exactly what they're saying. Yeah, you know how

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:42.800
<v Speaker 2>to like word that ship real good? Like yeah, be

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:47.960
<v Speaker 2>like I'm just saying, like, you know, I'm trying to

0:40:48.040 --> 0:40:49.640
<v Speaker 2>make sure politically correct.

0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:51.920
<v Speaker 4>No, it's not even politically correct.

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:53.839
<v Speaker 5>It's really just kind of like, you know, I feel

0:40:53.920 --> 0:40:56.239
<v Speaker 5>like I'm always going to stand on my ground off

0:40:56.239 --> 0:40:57.839
<v Speaker 5>in the Bronx, like you know what I mean, that's

0:40:57.880 --> 0:41:00.320
<v Speaker 5>what we do. But it's just kind of like, you know,

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:03.480
<v Speaker 5>I take the approach of education more so than I

0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:04.839
<v Speaker 5>take the approach of controversy.

0:41:05.320 --> 0:41:05.480
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:08.040
<v Speaker 5>I think that, you know, controversy is obviously what sells,

0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:10.360
<v Speaker 5>and that's what a lot of people love and enjoy it.

0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:13.200
<v Speaker 5>But I personally feel there's an opportunity for us to

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:14.319
<v Speaker 5>kind of educate each other.

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:16.319
<v Speaker 3>So what kind of stuff like on the ground at

0:41:17.640 --> 0:41:21.960
<v Speaker 3>AFRO Future and what kind of educational and empowerment initiatives

0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 3>is for future involving amazing.

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 4>So we do a lot of things outside of the festival.

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:31.279
<v Speaker 5>A lot of people know the festival because that's where

0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:34.120
<v Speaker 5>their enjoyment is, but even at the festival, there's opportunity

0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:37.239
<v Speaker 5>for you to engage with different cultural troops that we

0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:40.759
<v Speaker 5>bring onto the field, Different artists and talents that we

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:44.040
<v Speaker 5>bring on to the field that are also there. The

0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 5>mirrorless and the painters and even some of the vendors

0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:49.800
<v Speaker 5>have a lot of stories to tell and those connections

0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:52.560
<v Speaker 5>are very very important to us. Off the field, we

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:55.840
<v Speaker 5>have an expo. The xpos are opportunity for us to

0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:58.920
<v Speaker 5>kind of force that dialogue to whether it's in music

0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:03.319
<v Speaker 5>and education, around music and entertainment, we have that We've

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:06.440
<v Speaker 5>done that a partnership with our favorite some of like YouTube,

0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:11.879
<v Speaker 5>tom Core Audio Map, We've done like several panel discussions,

0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:14.480
<v Speaker 5>meetups and those kind of things with them.

0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:17.840
<v Speaker 4>We've done, you know, poetry events, whether.

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:20.040
<v Speaker 5>It's given creators an opportunity to kind of tap in

0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:22.799
<v Speaker 5>with each other and tell their story from a poetry perspective.

0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:26.239
<v Speaker 5>Last year we introduced Black Health Connect, which was an

0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:29.720
<v Speaker 5>opportunity for health professionals in the diaspora to connect.

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:31.800
<v Speaker 4>I thought that was really cool. That was one of

0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:32.440
<v Speaker 4>my favorites.

0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 5>We've had conversation around agriculture and food and how we

0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:42.280
<v Speaker 5>connect around food and what opportunities we've done things about beauty.

0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:44.279
<v Speaker 5>About sixty four percent of our audience a woman, so

0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:46.560
<v Speaker 5>we tend to kind of also like to try and

0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:49.239
<v Speaker 5>have conversations around women. Last year, we were able to

0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:54.239
<v Speaker 5>collaborate with this company out of Berlin called Curl Cohn

0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:58.400
<v Speaker 5>and we had conversations about beauty and starting the beauty business.

0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:01.880
<v Speaker 4>And right now we're very we're empowering.

0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:07.000
<v Speaker 5>Beauty brands from the continent, like topicals like I'm Coola

0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:10.279
<v Speaker 5>that are doing some amazing work in the space and

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:12.400
<v Speaker 5>we want to be able to highlight them and highlight

0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 5>the ingredients that they use from the continent, you know,

0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:19.160
<v Speaker 5>So whether it's like food activations and discussions around food

0:43:19.200 --> 0:43:22.480
<v Speaker 5>as well, some of the opportunities that we dig into.

0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:25.600
<v Speaker 5>Last year, we were able to collaborate with a Modern

0:43:25.640 --> 0:43:28.840
<v Speaker 5>Black Girl and we ran a pitch competition.

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:32.120
<v Speaker 2>I love that. I love Modern Black Girl to to

0:43:32.560 --> 0:43:33.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of like.

0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:36.279
<v Speaker 5>Tapping and and win a prize to kind of help

0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:40.520
<v Speaker 5>their businesses. We want to expand and have conversations around tech,

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:44.800
<v Speaker 5>around business opportunities, around you know, the Aspera dialogues.

0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:47.160
<v Speaker 4>You know, what are our perspectives as men?

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:50.719
<v Speaker 5>You know, from from a diaspa point of view, as American,

0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:54.120
<v Speaker 5>from a British point of view, from a British Black American?

0:43:54.320 --> 0:43:57.719
<v Speaker 4>You know what, like, what are the different perspectives of men?

0:43:57.760 --> 0:43:58.800
<v Speaker 4>What is our tone? You know?

0:43:58.880 --> 0:44:01.680
<v Speaker 5>How do we differ? How do we have similarities? And

0:44:01.920 --> 0:44:04.960
<v Speaker 5>in terms of mindset, same thing around women and wellness,

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:07.040
<v Speaker 5>and how can we speak to each other and understand

0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:12.560
<v Speaker 5>each other's perspectives. Anything that brings connectivity and fosters education

0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:14.440
<v Speaker 5>amongst the asked for some of the work we do

0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:18.120
<v Speaker 5>in the XPO and then with our music museum, we

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:21.440
<v Speaker 5>tend to take the music off of the screen and

0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:23.640
<v Speaker 5>off the sound and really put it in the museum

0:44:23.719 --> 0:44:26.880
<v Speaker 5>focus because you know, I may say an artist that

0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:29.239
<v Speaker 5>you guys, I'm sure you're familiar with the song, but

0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 5>you probably don't know the name of the artists. And

0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 5>that's like that for a lot of afrobeats artists and

0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:37.120
<v Speaker 5>artists on the content, if they're not part of the

0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:41.640
<v Speaker 5>Big Three, or they haven't done a collaboration, maybe with

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 5>a Selena Gomez or something like that. Most people probably

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 5>won't know who they are, and we want to change

0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:50.000
<v Speaker 5>that because we want to make sure that this sticks

0:44:50.040 --> 0:44:53.000
<v Speaker 5>to yourself as far as the music and the movement

0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:53.720
<v Speaker 5>that we're having.

0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:56.440
<v Speaker 4>So and really what it takes is the education.

0:44:56.880 --> 0:44:59.520
<v Speaker 5>You know, we grew up with hip hop, like I

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:03.000
<v Speaker 5>watched mac DVD's, I read the blogs like, you know,

0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:05.680
<v Speaker 5>I know this was my culture, right, you know, just

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:08.120
<v Speaker 5>kind of so I follow artists from when there was

0:45:08.200 --> 0:45:11.239
<v Speaker 5>a mixtape artist and now they're like, you know, a

0:45:11.320 --> 0:45:14.200
<v Speaker 5>world renowned artists like French Montana. I remember him as

0:45:14.200 --> 0:45:17.080
<v Speaker 5>a cookboy on Smack DVD and now to see him

0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:20.080
<v Speaker 5>as a superstar, Well why I follow that story.

0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 4>Most of us here in the US.

0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:26.080
<v Speaker 5>Haven't had that opportunity with afrobeats artists, and that connectivity

0:45:26.160 --> 0:45:29.120
<v Speaker 5>is so our museum allows us to be able to

0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:32.360
<v Speaker 5>create an experience like that for artists and dig deeper

0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:32.800
<v Speaker 5>into that.

0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:35.120
<v Speaker 4>So we do a lot of those kinds of things,

0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:36.480
<v Speaker 4>and obviously we give back.

0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:38.560
<v Speaker 5>You know a lot of people say why we don't

0:45:38.640 --> 0:45:41.880
<v Speaker 5>highlight that because we don't want Africa to be associated

0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:47.200
<v Speaker 5>with charity. We want people to associate us with industry

0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:49.439
<v Speaker 5>and to highlight some of the you know, the people

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:52.880
<v Speaker 5>on the ground doing the damn thing. You know, there's

0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:55.520
<v Speaker 5>a lot of people on the ground doing a lot

0:45:55.560 --> 0:46:00.640
<v Speaker 5>of amazing things and finance and tech and science and

0:46:00.840 --> 0:46:05.480
<v Speaker 5>creativity and you know in fashion, you know, so you know,

0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:08.960
<v Speaker 5>how do we highlight those people. That's what's more important

0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:09.239
<v Speaker 5>to us.

0:46:09.360 --> 0:46:12.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this give back. There's an opportunity.

0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:14.840
<v Speaker 5>You know, if you want to donate sneakers, we have

0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:18.000
<v Speaker 5>a whole day with the kids and paint and rebuild

0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:20.799
<v Speaker 5>their school or provide them with food for the day

0:46:20.800 --> 0:46:22.560
<v Speaker 5>and for the year as well. You know, we do

0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:25.120
<v Speaker 5>those kinds of things. But what we're trying to do

0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:28.600
<v Speaker 5>is encourage people to come back tapping with people doing

0:46:28.680 --> 0:46:31.840
<v Speaker 5>some amazing things and let's let's work together to create opportunity.

0:46:31.880 --> 0:46:36.200
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, I'm thinking about I want to get my citizenship

0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:38.799
<v Speaker 3>in Ghana. Do they still have that program with our

0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:40.759
<v Speaker 3>friends Black Americans to come over there and get a

0:46:40.800 --> 0:46:43.759
<v Speaker 3>piece of land and and uh citizenship.

0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:46.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, absolutely, you can come.

0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:48.719
<v Speaker 5>You can get residency and then after a while, once

0:46:48.800 --> 0:46:51.960
<v Speaker 5>there's an amnesty, they do the entire citizenship together.

0:46:52.480 --> 0:46:53.680
<v Speaker 4>But you start with residency.

0:46:53.760 --> 0:46:55.600
<v Speaker 5>I know, a few people who have gone through that

0:46:55.760 --> 0:46:59.920
<v Speaker 5>process and have started several businesses around in Donna specifically.

0:47:00.120 --> 0:47:02.640
<v Speaker 1>That's dope. So let me ask you this as a novice,

0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:05.640
<v Speaker 1>because I want to come. What date would you say

0:47:05.680 --> 0:47:08.879
<v Speaker 1>would be the best dates to come from this day

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:11.399
<v Speaker 1>to this day would be the best opportunity to get

0:47:11.480 --> 0:47:12.480
<v Speaker 1>a real experience.

0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:13.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:16.880
<v Speaker 5>The only thing I often feel guilty when I tell

0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:20.400
<v Speaker 5>people that, you know, come like before Christmas. So we

0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:22.480
<v Speaker 5>tend to tell people to come in the twenty sixth

0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:26.160
<v Speaker 5>and leave the fourth. You know, those are the days

0:47:26.160 --> 0:47:29.440
<v Speaker 5>where we're having a majority of the activations. But it's

0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:34.040
<v Speaker 5>really on and popping all December and mostly throughout January.

0:47:34.120 --> 0:47:36.799
<v Speaker 5>There's there's always something to do, but the busiest part

0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:39.880
<v Speaker 5>is the twenty sixth to the fourth. Those are the

0:47:40.040 --> 0:47:42.279
<v Speaker 5>times where I will encourage a lot of people to

0:47:42.600 --> 0:47:46.279
<v Speaker 5>come in and tap in. After the fourth, it's still fun.

0:47:46.400 --> 0:47:49.719
<v Speaker 5>It's a lot less people, you know, it's calmer, you

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:52.040
<v Speaker 5>get to do a lot more relaxing stuff. But it's

0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:54.200
<v Speaker 5>still a good time. God is a good time any

0:47:54.280 --> 0:47:56.279
<v Speaker 5>day of the week that you go. Yeah, yesterday it

0:47:56.360 --> 0:47:57.040
<v Speaker 5>was crazy.

0:47:56.840 --> 0:47:57.319
<v Speaker 4>In our cry.

0:47:58.080 --> 0:47:59.480
<v Speaker 1>What happened in a cry Yesterday?

0:48:01.160 --> 0:48:03.800
<v Speaker 5>We had an event that we called My Piano and

0:48:03.880 --> 0:48:07.239
<v Speaker 5>Brunch that we started in the pandemic and it's a

0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:10.239
<v Speaker 5>pretty exciting experience. So you know, even yesterday it was

0:48:10.239 --> 0:48:12.239
<v Speaker 5>a soul out event. So you know, a crowd is

0:48:12.280 --> 0:48:15.239
<v Speaker 5>always popping anywhere you go in the continent. You can

0:48:15.360 --> 0:48:17.920
<v Speaker 5>have an amazing time. You know, it's just really about

0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:20.799
<v Speaker 5>going and seeing yourself there.

0:48:21.840 --> 0:48:25.200
<v Speaker 3>So my concern is vaccinations. What type of vaccinations you

0:48:25.239 --> 0:48:28.160
<v Speaker 3>got to have, if any, to go to Ghana.

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:32.000
<v Speaker 5>I think just the kind of the basics, the stuff

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:35.280
<v Speaker 5>that's on your yellow card, the yellow fever, the memphs,

0:48:35.320 --> 0:48:37.640
<v Speaker 5>the mumps, but even that, I believe the yellow fever

0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:39.640
<v Speaker 5>has been updated to be taken off. Like you just

0:48:39.719 --> 0:48:41.759
<v Speaker 5>want to make sure that you're vaccinated against any of

0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:45.600
<v Speaker 5>like those deadly diseases. You know, you no longer need

0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:49.280
<v Speaker 5>the COVID vacs. Well you should have a COVID vaccination

0:48:49.400 --> 0:48:51.239
<v Speaker 5>to come to Ghana, but you don't. You no longer

0:48:51.320 --> 0:48:54.479
<v Speaker 5>have to provide a PCR test runing through that nature

0:48:54.560 --> 0:48:55.400
<v Speaker 5>to come into Ghana.

0:48:55.960 --> 0:48:58.680
<v Speaker 1>M Me and her ain't got no husband or no keys,

0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:00.799
<v Speaker 1>so we can come before Christy's Honestly.

0:49:03.280 --> 0:49:06.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, right now, you'll have a y'all have, y'all have

0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:06.720
<v Speaker 4>a blast.

0:49:07.200 --> 0:49:10.120
<v Speaker 1>In terms of costs, Is this an experience that the

0:49:10.200 --> 0:49:13.440
<v Speaker 1>average American can Black American or any you know race

0:49:13.480 --> 0:49:15.600
<v Speaker 1>of American can come have? Or do we got to

0:49:15.600 --> 0:49:17.920
<v Speaker 1>wait till twenty twenty five and get our chips together.

0:49:18.320 --> 0:49:20.200
<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, It depends on where you are in life.

0:49:20.239 --> 0:49:23.080
<v Speaker 5>And also when you're booking, right, we give a lot

0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:26.880
<v Speaker 5>of different opportunities for people to be able to kind

0:49:26.920 --> 0:49:28.960
<v Speaker 5>of pay their trip over time. You don't have to

0:49:29.520 --> 0:49:33.040
<v Speaker 5>buy it all at once. Yes, the most expensive, you know,

0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:36.279
<v Speaker 5>a part of this trip is the flight there. You know,

0:49:36.400 --> 0:49:37.760
<v Speaker 5>that's a that's the biggest hurdle.

0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:49:38.560 --> 0:49:41.040
<v Speaker 5>And then also maybe sometimes depends on how you stay,

0:49:41.680 --> 0:49:43.799
<v Speaker 5>the luxury you want to have once you stay there.

0:49:44.320 --> 0:49:46.440
<v Speaker 5>But you can definitely go there, you know, on a

0:49:46.480 --> 0:49:48.959
<v Speaker 5>pretty sleep budget, because once you're in town, your money

0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:51.959
<v Speaker 5>goes a long way. The dollar is a very great

0:49:52.040 --> 0:49:55.000
<v Speaker 5>currency to have on the continent, you know, it goes

0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:58.000
<v Speaker 5>a long way. Unless you're out there trying to kind

0:49:58.040 --> 0:50:00.600
<v Speaker 5>of like live like a king, you should be fine,

0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:03.799
<v Speaker 5>right the most the biggest hurdle you're probably gonna face

0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:07.520
<v Speaker 5>is your flight and accommodation. But everything else is nominal

0:50:07.640 --> 0:50:09.759
<v Speaker 5>compared to the amount of money that you have. So

0:50:10.800 --> 0:50:14.879
<v Speaker 5>we have a relationship with Air Affordable. It gives people

0:50:14.880 --> 0:50:16.960
<v Speaker 5>an opportunity to be able to kind of pay their

0:50:17.000 --> 0:50:20.560
<v Speaker 5>trip over time and spread the payments. We also have

0:50:21.280 --> 0:50:25.360
<v Speaker 5>a travel agent on hand as well more travel. She

0:50:25.560 --> 0:50:27.719
<v Speaker 5>also allows for people to be able to pay this

0:50:27.920 --> 0:50:30.480
<v Speaker 5>over time, so we can reduce that burier for people.

0:50:31.360 --> 0:50:34.000
<v Speaker 5>But you know, it's it's you know, I don't know

0:50:34.040 --> 0:50:35.919
<v Speaker 5>anyone that has spent the money to come to gand

0:50:36.000 --> 0:50:39.640
<v Speaker 5>that has given us bad feedback about their experience or

0:50:39.680 --> 0:50:42.600
<v Speaker 5>their their experience, like what would have meant to them

0:50:42.680 --> 0:50:45.239
<v Speaker 5>to be in Ghana? Right, you know, even if they

0:50:45.280 --> 0:50:47.960
<v Speaker 5>didn't like anything else, they just kind of you know,

0:50:48.040 --> 0:50:50.160
<v Speaker 5>that experience of being in Africa and going to the

0:50:50.239 --> 0:50:53.640
<v Speaker 5>content for the first time changed a lot of people's

0:50:53.719 --> 0:50:55.719
<v Speaker 5>lives that we at least the feedback that we've got.

0:50:57.320 --> 0:51:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, semi mode numbers, so I could call her

0:51:00.640 --> 0:51:03.480
<v Speaker 1>get my ship together because I'm crumbing this year. Right.

0:51:03.560 --> 0:51:04.520
<v Speaker 2>They take after pay.

0:51:06.239 --> 0:51:09.719
<v Speaker 1>American Airlines takes after pay you guys, our klariner one

0:51:10.080 --> 0:51:11.320
<v Speaker 1>so you can get your ticket like that.

0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:15.600
<v Speaker 4>You know, we're looking at some airline discounts.

0:51:16.160 --> 0:51:18.680
<v Speaker 5>You know, in the future, we're trying to like do

0:51:18.800 --> 0:51:21.480
<v Speaker 5>tryter planes as well, you know, which will kind of

0:51:21.520 --> 0:51:24.040
<v Speaker 5>help us reduce the costs. Seems like they're trying to

0:51:24.040 --> 0:51:27.960
<v Speaker 5>stop black people from coming to Africa man every years.

0:51:29.560 --> 0:51:33.680
<v Speaker 3>Of course, that's why that's why I was asking you about,

0:51:33.800 --> 0:51:35.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, the festival ever being in America, because I

0:51:36.239 --> 0:51:39.920
<v Speaker 3>understand empowering Africa for sure, but we can look at

0:51:39.960 --> 0:51:42.840
<v Speaker 3>other groups of people, like I'll say the Asians for

0:51:42.920 --> 0:51:46.480
<v Speaker 3>an example. Asian people like they empower their people wherever

0:51:46.600 --> 0:51:49.880
<v Speaker 3>they are, right. So it's not about like really like

0:51:50.000 --> 0:51:52.520
<v Speaker 3>doing this here and then sending money back or sending

0:51:52.560 --> 0:51:55.759
<v Speaker 3>the resources back. It's about us taking over all ship,

0:51:56.239 --> 0:51:56.960
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying.

0:51:59.120 --> 0:52:02.360
<v Speaker 5>So last year year and this year, what we started

0:52:02.400 --> 0:52:05.640
<v Speaker 5>doing is taking our show on the road. So between

0:52:05.719 --> 0:52:08.200
<v Speaker 5>Ghana and December, we do a lot of activities leading

0:52:08.320 --> 0:52:13.680
<v Speaker 5>up to December and so creating experiences here in the

0:52:13.840 --> 0:52:17.040
<v Speaker 5>US so for instance, or in Europe. So this year

0:52:17.080 --> 0:52:20.120
<v Speaker 5>we've done a lot of stops. We started off in Coudivoire,

0:52:20.280 --> 0:52:23.080
<v Speaker 5>which was in Abajohn. Then we went to Paris, we

0:52:23.200 --> 0:52:26.040
<v Speaker 5>went to London. Uh we came back to l A.

0:52:26.400 --> 0:52:29.719
<v Speaker 5>We did New York earlier. This this summer, we have

0:52:29.800 --> 0:52:35.239
<v Speaker 5>an event coming up with What's Happened and uh Door

0:52:35.360 --> 0:52:38.799
<v Speaker 5>Dash and at Nike you know, Battle of joeloff Rice

0:52:38.840 --> 0:52:41.960
<v Speaker 5>and you guys are invited. It's gonna be pretty exciting

0:52:42.040 --> 0:52:47.080
<v Speaker 5>as a basketball game and jeelol Rice competition, you know.

0:52:47.200 --> 0:52:51.880
<v Speaker 5>So we create experiences throughout the year preparing people for

0:52:52.160 --> 0:52:54.480
<v Speaker 5>for Ghana. We even went to the Kentucky Derby this

0:52:54.640 --> 0:52:59.080
<v Speaker 5>year an experience there. So we're definitely touching our audiences

0:52:59.120 --> 0:53:02.120
<v Speaker 5>in the different markets that we do. But as the

0:53:02.239 --> 0:53:05.680
<v Speaker 5>festival exists, you know, we create about fifteen hundred jobs

0:53:05.719 --> 0:53:07.840
<v Speaker 5>for people. When when people come to the continent, we

0:53:07.920 --> 0:53:11.120
<v Speaker 5>are able to accomplish one the goal of getting people

0:53:11.280 --> 0:53:15.480
<v Speaker 5>who have long wondered about the continent, given them a

0:53:15.600 --> 0:53:18.960
<v Speaker 5>way that is consumable for them to come to the continent,

0:53:19.080 --> 0:53:22.359
<v Speaker 5>and encouraging that we're able to create opportunities for people

0:53:22.400 --> 0:53:25.080
<v Speaker 5>on the ground. We're able to build connections as far

0:53:25.160 --> 0:53:27.399
<v Speaker 5>as people who are coming and the people on the ground.

0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:31.680
<v Speaker 5>So there's so many positive things that we are accomplishing

0:53:31.840 --> 0:53:36.000
<v Speaker 5>by doing it on the continent that you know, it

0:53:36.120 --> 0:53:38.440
<v Speaker 5>just doesn't make sense to leave. And also just to

0:53:38.520 --> 0:53:41.120
<v Speaker 5>kind of put it in context, the world is fighting

0:53:41.239 --> 0:53:46.280
<v Speaker 5>for Africa right now, like Russia, China and America fighting

0:53:46.400 --> 0:53:50.080
<v Speaker 5>for influence in Africa. Black people need to be at

0:53:50.120 --> 0:53:52.120
<v Speaker 5>the center of that and we need to be able

0:53:52.160 --> 0:53:54.239
<v Speaker 5>to tap in as well. If if all of these

0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:57.040
<v Speaker 5>superpowers are fighting for Africa, they know there's an opportunity.

0:53:57.280 --> 0:54:00.879
<v Speaker 5>And for me, the opportunity should first with black people,

0:54:00.960 --> 0:54:02.960
<v Speaker 5>and not just black people in the continent, but black

0:54:03.000 --> 0:54:06.960
<v Speaker 5>people to the Aspa, Caribbean, the America, is Europe, Asia

0:54:07.000 --> 0:54:09.920
<v Speaker 5>or wherever you are tapping with people in the continent.

0:54:10.040 --> 0:54:12.080
<v Speaker 5>How can you support them, how can you invest in them?

0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:14.520
<v Speaker 5>How can you work with each other to kind of,

0:54:14.680 --> 0:54:15.960
<v Speaker 5>you know, do something.

0:54:16.080 --> 0:54:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Some of our goals right and get in front of

0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:19.960
<v Speaker 1>the white.

0:54:19.760 --> 0:54:26.000
<v Speaker 4>Man always yeah, they're gonna get things, but we got

0:54:26.080 --> 0:54:26.880
<v Speaker 4>to get ours.

0:54:26.640 --> 0:54:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Too, you know that part. That part where's the Jall

0:54:30.080 --> 0:54:31.239
<v Speaker 1>of Rice competition at.

0:54:31.840 --> 0:54:33.879
<v Speaker 4>So this year is gonna be at the Nike HQ.

0:54:34.040 --> 0:54:38.680
<v Speaker 5>Everybody can't get in, so you know it's gonna be

0:54:38.719 --> 0:54:41.320
<v Speaker 5>a you know, it's invite only, but we got a

0:54:41.320 --> 0:54:44.320
<v Speaker 5>space for you guys to pull up and enjoy yourself.

0:54:44.640 --> 0:54:47.360
<v Speaker 5>It's a pretty great experience. You had a lot of

0:54:47.400 --> 0:54:50.719
<v Speaker 5>amazing players, like the game was actually competitive. Jandanna has

0:54:50.719 --> 0:54:54.040
<v Speaker 5>played in the past, Ross Gold, who used to be

0:54:54.120 --> 0:54:57.320
<v Speaker 5>a player, She's played. We've had a few you know,

0:54:57.719 --> 0:55:00.359
<v Speaker 5>pro semi pro players play on the team. So it's

0:55:00.360 --> 0:55:01.360
<v Speaker 5>been pretty exciting.

0:55:01.440 --> 0:55:01.960
<v Speaker 4>It's co ed.

0:55:02.440 --> 0:55:04.320
<v Speaker 5>So a woman asked you on this corner on the

0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:07.480
<v Speaker 5>on the court the whole time. But they're good too,

0:55:07.600 --> 0:55:10.399
<v Speaker 5>and and they're dope and and they ball out. It's

0:55:10.400 --> 0:55:12.760
<v Speaker 5>a pretty great experience. And we have an after party

0:55:12.840 --> 0:55:15.040
<v Speaker 5>and you know, it's it's it's vibes, you know. So

0:55:15.120 --> 0:55:17.800
<v Speaker 5>we have after party at Musica. So it's gonna be

0:55:17.880 --> 0:55:20.719
<v Speaker 5>a very nice you know, two weeks now during Independence

0:55:20.840 --> 0:55:23.960
<v Speaker 5>is October first, so we're gonna be celebrating up until

0:55:24.160 --> 0:55:25.240
<v Speaker 5>the eighth of October.

0:55:26.480 --> 0:55:29.239
<v Speaker 2>So this is in New York. You're saying, this is

0:55:29.280 --> 0:55:32.040
<v Speaker 2>a New York Yes, okay.

0:55:32.400 --> 0:55:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I'm trying to pull up.

0:55:35.560 --> 0:55:35.840
<v Speaker 4>Please.

0:55:36.520 --> 0:55:39.680
<v Speaker 2>You had and you had me, You had me at.

0:55:40.520 --> 0:55:46.680
<v Speaker 5>Okay, jelof Rights Champion. The Jewel of Rights that we

0:55:46.840 --> 0:55:50.200
<v Speaker 5>use tis our chow restaurant. We have, you know, two

0:55:50.239 --> 0:55:52.520
<v Speaker 5>little caches of Harlem and one of the Bronx. But

0:55:52.640 --> 0:55:53.840
<v Speaker 5>they are two time champions.

0:55:53.880 --> 0:55:55.719
<v Speaker 4>This year they get to defend it for the three peak,

0:55:56.360 --> 0:56:00.040
<v Speaker 4>so I'm pretty excited for them, you know, hopefully, and

0:56:00.160 --> 0:56:01.680
<v Speaker 4>Jeria can come with some heat.

0:56:02.239 --> 0:56:04.000
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna see what happened, and I'm gonna taste all

0:56:04.040 --> 0:56:05.279
<v Speaker 1>of it, and I'm gonna tell you which one I

0:56:05.400 --> 0:56:06.000
<v Speaker 1>think should win.

0:56:08.360 --> 0:56:12.759
<v Speaker 3>I've only had joel Off one time. Really, really, the

0:56:12.840 --> 0:56:14.319
<v Speaker 3>food is so damn spicy, man.

0:56:14.360 --> 0:56:16.160
<v Speaker 2>I like to be able to enjoy my food.

0:56:16.239 --> 0:56:18.480
<v Speaker 3>I cannot enjoy my food if I'm away and in

0:56:18.560 --> 0:56:20.000
<v Speaker 3>my mouth it's hot the whole time.

0:56:21.280 --> 0:56:24.399
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'll just be eating it and wiping my nose

0:56:24.440 --> 0:56:26.520
<v Speaker 1>because my nose start running because it's so hot. But

0:56:26.600 --> 0:56:29.200
<v Speaker 1>that's okay, baby, Just wipe my nose and keep going.

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<v Speaker 4>That's definitely note.

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<v Speaker 3>So what do you hope the attendees take away from

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<v Speaker 3>Afro Future from the after Future experience and what are

0:56:41.840 --> 0:56:44.360
<v Speaker 3>your aspirations for the future of the festival?

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, I mean I think that my hope is that

0:56:49.239 --> 0:56:51.680
<v Speaker 5>one they can build a connection or a relationship with

0:56:51.880 --> 0:56:54.480
<v Speaker 5>somebody that they meet on the continent, they could be

0:56:54.560 --> 0:56:58.480
<v Speaker 5>intentional about dispelling any narratives that they may have or

0:56:58.840 --> 0:57:01.759
<v Speaker 5>that the people around them have. About the continent and

0:57:01.920 --> 0:57:03.719
<v Speaker 5>how it exists. You know, it's twenty twenty three and

0:57:03.760 --> 0:57:06.640
<v Speaker 5>people still have a lot of ignorant questions about the

0:57:06.719 --> 0:57:10.080
<v Speaker 5>continent with TikTok, with YouTube, and I think it's just

0:57:10.200 --> 0:57:13.360
<v Speaker 5>kind of like, you know, a lack of effort on

0:57:13.440 --> 0:57:15.520
<v Speaker 5>their part to kind of really know what's happening on

0:57:15.600 --> 0:57:18.040
<v Speaker 5>the continent where we are. There's been a lot of

0:57:18.080 --> 0:57:22.120
<v Speaker 5>disinformation that has existed so that you know, we don't connect,

0:57:22.320 --> 0:57:24.440
<v Speaker 5>and now we're trying to build that bridge to bring

0:57:24.560 --> 0:57:27.480
<v Speaker 5>us back. So if the hope is that you know,

0:57:27.560 --> 0:57:30.400
<v Speaker 5>once you come to the continent that you're tappening, you're

0:57:30.440 --> 0:57:33.880
<v Speaker 5>familiar with what's happening on the continent, that you're familiar

0:57:33.960 --> 0:57:36.960
<v Speaker 5>with the perspectives, and as opposed to taking offense, just

0:57:37.000 --> 0:57:39.120
<v Speaker 5>take an approach of just kind of educating. You know,

0:57:39.200 --> 0:57:42.080
<v Speaker 5>we really don't know each other. We haven't had any

0:57:42.760 --> 0:57:46.080
<v Speaker 5>real interactions with each other outside of you know, the

0:57:46.200 --> 0:57:49.080
<v Speaker 5>things we enjoy that are similar, right, you know, like music,

0:57:50.120 --> 0:57:53.120
<v Speaker 5>TV shows and movies and things that nature. But that's

0:57:53.160 --> 0:57:55.400
<v Speaker 5>not enough, right, you know, It's like you can, we

0:57:55.480 --> 0:57:57.240
<v Speaker 5>can like the same movies, but we don't if we

0:57:57.280 --> 0:58:00.720
<v Speaker 5>don't really have an understanding of each other's respectives and

0:58:00.800 --> 0:58:02.680
<v Speaker 5>how can we respect each other, you know, So we

0:58:02.760 --> 0:58:05.800
<v Speaker 5>want to faster that respect as well. And the hope

0:58:05.920 --> 0:58:07.800
<v Speaker 5>is that, you know, to be able to support young

0:58:07.880 --> 0:58:11.200
<v Speaker 5>people doing amazing things on the continent. How can we

0:58:11.360 --> 0:58:13.240
<v Speaker 5>tap in with them, and how can we work with them,

0:58:13.320 --> 0:58:16.480
<v Speaker 5>and how can we provide each other opportunities? Those are

0:58:16.600 --> 0:58:19.200
<v Speaker 5>those are our main goals as far as some of

0:58:19.280 --> 0:58:21.760
<v Speaker 5>the work that we're trying to do on the continent

0:58:21.920 --> 0:58:24.360
<v Speaker 5>and as far as the future, you know, we want

0:58:24.360 --> 0:58:28.000
<v Speaker 5>to get into more storytelling, more nie storytelling, you know,

0:58:28.120 --> 0:58:32.720
<v Speaker 5>supporting podcasters on the content on the continent, supporting you know,

0:58:32.880 --> 0:58:36.200
<v Speaker 5>storytellers on the continent, and leveraging them to tell stories

0:58:36.280 --> 0:58:39.080
<v Speaker 5>about the continent. Now, I think that if you're coming

0:58:39.120 --> 0:58:40.919
<v Speaker 5>to Ghana, you should be able to watch a movie

0:58:41.000 --> 0:58:42.960
<v Speaker 5>that kind of gives you a perspective of what it's

0:58:43.040 --> 0:58:45.680
<v Speaker 5>like for every day ghaniance and one that is not

0:58:45.960 --> 0:58:48.760
<v Speaker 5>like the life of the rich and or the life

0:58:48.800 --> 0:58:51.640
<v Speaker 5>of the famous, but one that's like everyday lives of people.

0:58:51.760 --> 0:58:54.720
<v Speaker 4>And I think that we don't really have that yet.

0:58:54.800 --> 0:58:56.880
<v Speaker 4>So the festival definitely wants to be able to tap

0:58:56.960 --> 0:58:58.480
<v Speaker 4>into that, to that to that length.

0:58:59.440 --> 0:59:03.280
<v Speaker 1>That's good, that's important. Well, I'm excited for the growth

0:59:03.320 --> 0:59:06.200
<v Speaker 1>of this. I keep seeing every year, I keep seeing

0:59:06.240 --> 0:59:08.680
<v Speaker 1>it growing, and this year is gonna grow bigger because

0:59:08.720 --> 0:59:09.960
<v Speaker 1>tam Bar, I'm gonna be in the building.

0:59:10.000 --> 0:59:11.200
<v Speaker 2>I promise I'm going this year.

0:59:12.800 --> 0:59:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:59:13.080 --> 0:59:15.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I've definitely you guys be my special guests. You know,

0:59:15.960 --> 0:59:18.440
<v Speaker 5>we'll have a good time. I'll make sure all my

0:59:18.800 --> 0:59:20.040
<v Speaker 5>spots take care of you, guys.

0:59:22.280 --> 0:59:23.080
<v Speaker 2>Husband's out there.

0:59:25.440 --> 0:59:27.080
<v Speaker 5>It's gonna be so much to pick from you. I'm

0:59:27.120 --> 0:59:28.960
<v Speaker 5>not gonna be able. They're gonna be on y'all too.

0:59:29.160 --> 0:59:37.640
<v Speaker 5>So suppose immediately perfect. Yeah, they meet you and they.

0:59:37.600 --> 0:59:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Tell you, I love it, darling, Darling, You're so beautiful, Darling,

0:59:42.960 --> 0:59:43.360
<v Speaker 1>all of that.

0:59:43.760 --> 0:59:44.560
<v Speaker 2>I want all of that.

0:59:46.320 --> 0:59:46.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:59:47.360 --> 0:59:50.400
<v Speaker 1>So can you tell our listeners where they can find

0:59:50.480 --> 0:59:53.080
<v Speaker 1>all this information so they can attend as well?

0:59:54.720 --> 1:00:05.560
<v Speaker 5>Absolutely on all of our socials, Instagram, threads, uh, you know, Snapchat, TikTok,

1:00:05.720 --> 1:00:09.040
<v Speaker 5>Afro Future, at afro Future, a Future festival, you should

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<v Speaker 5>be able to find us on any of those, even

1:00:11.280 --> 1:00:13.720
<v Speaker 5>on LinkedIn as well. We're on there as well as

1:00:14.000 --> 1:00:17.720
<v Speaker 5>for Future Festival. You can always go to Afrofuture dot

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<v Speaker 5>com that's our website. All of the information is there

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<v Speaker 5>for you.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, you hear there, Guys Afro Future, y'all look

1:00:25.720 --> 1:00:27.640
<v Speaker 1>for that because we're gonna be there and it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a great opportunity to connect with Ghanaians and the

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<v Speaker 1>whole continent. So y'all, y'all better come.

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<v Speaker 2>And husband, I should do it. Oh yeah, let's do it. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, forgot. Now we can set that up for y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>I can do it all right, let's set that up seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm serious. Don't be giving us no Hollywood. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>Bronx talking like, yeah, we can do a live.

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<v Speaker 2>Show the yeah for the festival.

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<v Speaker 3>Have y'all incorporated any podcast with the festival, like something

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<v Speaker 3>like a live show.

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<v Speaker 4>We've had we've had a few.

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<v Speaker 5>We had no podcasts last year come through and they

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<v Speaker 5>did like, you know, the backstage interviews as people came

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<v Speaker 5>came on and off the off the stage. That was

1:01:13.480 --> 1:01:17.960
<v Speaker 5>pretty exciting. We've done some live ones on on you know,

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<v Speaker 5>in our venues as well as XPO. Some people have

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<v Speaker 5>come out and do their live podcast. It's been pretty exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>That's no real easy way to say.

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<v Speaker 4>This, but.

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<v Speaker 2>We get We ain't getting no SIMP story from Abdul.

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<v Speaker 2>What are we doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, we definitely got to get a SIMP story

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<v Speaker 1>from Abdul. Almost got away? You almost got away?

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<v Speaker 4>I was getting ready to.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. So we have a segment of our show

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<v Speaker 1>called Dumby Story, our SIMP series, and you got to

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<v Speaker 1>share a time that you got played by the opposie

1:02:01.680 --> 1:02:04.680
<v Speaker 1>one story and don't don't talk about when you was

1:02:04.720 --> 1:02:07.600
<v Speaker 1>in the ninth grade, talk about something from your.

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<v Speaker 2>Food out the afro.

1:02:09.480 --> 1:02:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Are you are you married?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not married? Are you.

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<v Speaker 1>Not in a relationship? So prior to her, what happened?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes? Damn yeah? Man, man, you guys want to help

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<v Speaker 4>me with reveal the secret?

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't never really go ahead and tell it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my goodness. Yeah, you know, it happens to the

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<v Speaker 4>best of us, most of us, you know what I mean.

1:02:47.800 --> 1:02:50.480
<v Speaker 4>I was super, you know, super super, super in love,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and you know I just couldn't see pastor

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and unfortunately she did me dirty, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>one of my one of my young boys. So you

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<v Speaker 4>know it happened to me. It happened to me in college,

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<v Speaker 4>and that was my villain story.

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<v Speaker 1>That was.

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<v Speaker 2>Every one one bitch be ruining a nigga forever.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that was vague, but I guess we'll take it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, come on, I don't want to like, did she

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<v Speaker 2>smash on the what does she do?

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<v Speaker 4>You know? A whole lot of you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>she just kind of you know, stepped out of me

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<v Speaker 4>man with somebody with a.

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<v Speaker 1>Friend with my mentor did you did you continue to

1:03:39.120 --> 1:03:40.280
<v Speaker 1>mentor this person?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I put a body on. We're all cool.

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<v Speaker 5>That actually is funny. It's like, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 5>very young, and you know, I don't I don't actually

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<v Speaker 5>blame them at all. You know, I think that was

1:03:57.040 --> 1:03:58.680
<v Speaker 5>part of life. It was a lesson I need to

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<v Speaker 5>learn to.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a good way to take it. You're still

1:04:03.400 --> 1:04:06.240
<v Speaker 2>with her too, Yeah, Yeah, we cool.

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<v Speaker 5>She apologized a couple of years ago. It's always good

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<v Speaker 5>like I like that. My villain stories don't end with

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<v Speaker 5>me being a bad guy. They normally come back and apologize.

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<v Speaker 2>So they always do, they always do.

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<v Speaker 4>I ain't tell.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we tell us the time you was a

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<v Speaker 3>damn villains when you play somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>And I flew up going and I ain't. I put

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<v Speaker 2>her in the hotel and I ain't see her no time.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I actually don't have any issues with any

1:04:40.600 --> 1:04:43.800
<v Speaker 5>of my exits. Actually, well, you know, people tend to

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<v Speaker 5>I tend to have good relationships or leave on good terms.

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<v Speaker 5>I try to make sure it's nice and clean every time.

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<v Speaker 2>Karma good.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't want anybody crying over me.

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<v Speaker 3>Or all right, let our listeners know where they can

1:04:59.040 --> 1:05:02.080
<v Speaker 3>find you at. And uh, you pretty much already told

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<v Speaker 3>us about the festival and all that. So what's your

1:05:04.720 --> 1:05:06.480
<v Speaker 3>socials where they can tap in with you?

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely? I mean I'm on, I'm on on socials at

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<v Speaker 5>the Ruler oh two t h E r U l

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<v Speaker 5>E R zero two. It's my handle across all of

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<v Speaker 5>my socials.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, y'all, that's what y'all can find the Ruler Abdu.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much man for joining us. We really

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate you sharing this information. It's a good time, all right, y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>This is your co host, A J. Holiday two point

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<v Speaker 2>oh on instagrams. Kick it Tam, y'all is official.

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<v Speaker 1>Tam Bam, I Love y'all, Thank y'all for tuning in.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember to speak now

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<v Speaker 2>And never hold your peace.