1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Hey, Bill, Well, I'm doing great because Wiggy made it 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: down to see you this week as opposed to another 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: flex Monday, so I had to show up. 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: I feel like I was gonna fine if I didn't come. 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: No, Bill, he said last week. He doesn't do that anymore. 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: It's like he's like a days off every once in 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: a while. 8 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 3: Guy. Now, yeah, you never got fine. 9 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no. I made sure that I 10 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: did everything on pod Bill. 11 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 3: You know that. 12 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: I never never waved in I met from Greg. I 13 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: thought Greg would find me, not you. I listened to 14 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: you now. 15 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 4: Greg. 16 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm a little a little wary. 17 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: Well, I mean when it comes to bosses, Bill was 18 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: your boss? Oh yeah, I mean are we similar at all? 19 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 2: And I would say, yeah, you got a lot of similarities. 20 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: You know, I'm nervous around both of you guys. 21 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: But he's getting ready for the season to get underway. 22 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, well we're getting closed. 23 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: No, I mean his I mean Brockton he's I mean 24 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: he's he's gotta make cuts. 25 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: I think, are you gonna know we already did that? 26 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 4: We No, yeah, we already. 27 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 5: You know. 28 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Bill at a public that you have to do 29 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,119 Speaker 2: it because you just have too many kids, So unfortunately, 30 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: you know, and now I know what it's like to 31 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 2: be on the other side of that. 32 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 3: It's not easy, No, it ain't. 33 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 4: So. 34 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: Uh you make a move yesterday when it comes to 35 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: Pierre Strong, is that was that a reaction to kind 36 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: of the any anything offensive line wise Friday night? 37 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 3: Or was just a move that you wanted to make? Uh? Yeah, 38 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: I think it was a situation where they were looking 39 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 3: for depth at running back and we were looking for 40 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 3: depth on the offensive line, and so it worked out, 41 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 3: which is kind of what trade should the way they should. 42 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: Work Bill when you I think the thing that I've 43 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: kind of looked at from the new like preseason format 44 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: we only have in three games, is it difficult to 45 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: kind of get the ones the right proper amount of reps, 46 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: but still making sure that you're keeping guys healthy because 47 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: you don't really have that real third preseason game no 48 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: more where you can kind of that's the dress rehearsal. 49 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: What's that like to try to be able to manage 50 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: this new preseason type of format. 51 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't think it's the games as much as 52 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 3: it's the lead up time. You know, So when training 53 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 3: camp starts, you spent a week not in pads and 54 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: really in OTAs is an extension OTAs. And so then 55 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: it's a question of, you know, how ready are you know, 56 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 3: some of those players to go out there and start 57 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: playing in preseason one when there was a time when 58 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: you had two in a weeks two and a half 59 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: weeks of training camp, and guys are probably ready for 60 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 3: that now when you look at two and a half 61 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 3: weeks of training camp, because the first week doesn't really 62 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: i would say, isn't a full training camp week. They're 63 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 3: running around, but there's no contact. You know, now you're 64 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: the two and a half weeks is pretty much the 65 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: end of it's the end of the preseason games. So 66 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 3: it's just a little bit of a different structure, that's all. 67 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 3: And there is a you know decision as the you know, 68 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 3: guys you've seen before, how much you want to see 69 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 3: them versus the guys that you haven't seen before, the 70 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 3: guys you know you need to see how much they've improved. 71 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 3: If you don't get them in there, when are you 72 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 3: gonna When are you gonna see them? Because those guys 73 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 3: did take a lot of snaps in practice and a 74 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 3: lot of snaps in Green Bay and didn't play very 75 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: much in the games. So that's kind of the trade off. 76 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 5: Bill when you look at a game like Friday and 77 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 5: and you don't send out a lot of your starters, 78 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 5: but the other team may send out some of theirs. 79 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 5: Do you evaluate those games differently than a game where 80 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 5: you might see just all backups. 81 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: Well, no, it's actually a good opportunity because you can 82 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 3: get to see, uh, you know, your players against players 83 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 3: that are they're going to have to play against. And 84 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 3: I thought, uh, defensively, I thought we held up pretty 85 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: well with the group we had out there for a 86 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 3: quarter and a half. So you know, again it's more 87 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: of an individual evaluation. Obviously, there are things from a 88 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: team standpoint, from timing and execution that are less than 89 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: what you want it to be and hopefully less than 90 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 3: what they will be. But individually you can, you know, 91 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 3: see how guys are coming along, and it's important to 92 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: know who they're matched up against because in preseason it's 93 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: not all equal. For sure. There can be some you know, 94 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 3: quite a difference in who different guys are playing against. 95 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 3: So so have to take that into consideration. 96 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: Bro, when you start to look at kind of you're 97 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: shaping your team, here, I know, what these rounds of 98 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: cuts and you start to look defensively, where you guys be. 99 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: I know, there's a lot of high expectations as far 100 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: as defensively what you guys can do. What's your mindset 101 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 2: of far as how you're looking at this defense moving forward, 102 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: especially coming to too a very difficult game against the 103 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: Eagles in week one, what's your expectations of where you 104 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: see them? 105 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: Well, well, you know, try to play as well as 106 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: we can every week. I mean it's really kind of 107 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 3: a week by week that's what it is in the NFL. 108 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 3: You can't say look too far ahead or start thinking 109 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 3: about but you know, we know we're gonna have to 110 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 3: face We're going to face a number of teams like 111 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: the Eagles that have spread you know, RPO type offensive 112 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 3: elements to them, and then there'll be other teams that 113 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 3: will have less of that. So let's say the way 114 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 3: it is in the NFL now, you have to be 115 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 3: ready to defend a lot of different things defensively, and 116 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 3: so hopefully our roster will be able to handle the 117 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 3: multiple types of power running, space running RPO game, vertical passing, 118 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 3: you know, quick throwers, possession passing, and so forth, and 119 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 3: eleven personnel, twelve personnel be able to handle all those 120 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 3: We're going to have to somewhere along the line. So 121 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 3: hopefully we're versatal enough to handle that. 122 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: That reminds me speaking of that type of quarterback. Gronk said, 123 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: I think last week or the week before that, you 124 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: were always talking always about wanting to have a mobile quarterback. 125 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 3: Is that accurate statement. I can't remember talking to Gronk 126 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 3: about quarterback. I mean I've talked to Gronk about a 127 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 3: lot of things with quarterbacks. I can't remember having that 128 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 3: conversation with him. So he has probably a better memory 129 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: and I didn't have to pass on that. 130 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 4: Okay, Bill, I just look at. 131 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 3: The never you know, the fact speaking fuse with a good. 132 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: Story, I know so well he might, you know, maybe 133 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: he's trying to get himself in the news here that 134 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know about that, Bill, I have 135 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: no idea. 136 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 3: He's pretty newsworthy guy. He is, Yes he is. 137 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 4: Is that on Gronk Beach? Maybe you don't remember it. 138 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 139 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 2: Uh. 140 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 4: Looking at the the offensive line right now, it appears 141 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 4: that there are a bunch of laid ads. Obviously, the 142 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 4: trade for Tyrone Wheatley Junior. Where there was holes that 143 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 4: weren't addressed in free agency or maybe through the draft. 144 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 4: What was the thought process this offseason and maybe not 145 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 4: creating more depth earlier in the off season than trying 146 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 4: to do it and cram it before the start of 147 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 4: the year. 148 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 3: Well, he drafted three players on the offensive line. I'm 149 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 3: really sure what you're referring to. I silently signed Riley Reef. 150 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: We drafted three players on the offensive line. Andrews Chent 151 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 3: Brown on WAYNU and Strange. We're all we're all returning. 152 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 3: They're returning stars for us SO and we drafted three 153 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 3: players and signed one. So, I mean, I'm not really 154 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 3: I don't following you. 155 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 4: I would just say the the premium position of tackle 156 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 4: was one that was a significant place of need. Riley 157 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 4: Reef is a guy that was not a top end 158 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 4: talent last year in the NFL. You look at Orlando 159 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 4: Brown Junior, who signs elsewhere. It appears that there was 160 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 4: significant need for dramatic improvement and it wasn't quite established 161 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 4: this offseason. 162 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: Right. Well, we'll see how it all plays out. Yeah, 163 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: I'm not sure about that. Again, we drafted three players 164 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 3: on the alfensive line, and signed another you know, pre 165 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 3: experience veteran. 166 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 4: So well, I mean late later picks, right, they were fourth, fifth, 167 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 4: six rounds. 168 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, first six picks are on defensive that's right. Yeah, Okay, 169 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: I mean I mean you don't have so many first 170 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 3: round picks. So right. 171 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: We saw Bill O'Brien get into it a little bit 172 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: with Billy Zappy. What did you make of bailly performance Friday? 173 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, again, as a team, we you know, it 174 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 3: wasn't a great performance offensively. I think when you look, 175 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 3: you know, beyond that individually, that's kind of what you 176 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: have to do is kind of see how we match 177 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 3: up individually. And of course the quarterback positions dependent on 178 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: a lot of other things, protection routes and so forth. 179 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 3: So you know, Bailey did some good things, and there 180 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: are some other things that you know that he could 181 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 3: improve on, like all of us. So so it's about 182 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 3: about the way I hope your season game looked, to 183 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 3: be honest with him. 184 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 5: Gaseki is set to shed his non contract, non contact 185 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 5: jersey tomorrow, not seeing any game action for him during 186 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 5: the preseason. What do you hope that that brings out 187 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 5: in practice before we get closer to Game one? 188 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike Prashley says today, he's had a good he's 189 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 3: had a good spring and a very good training camp. 190 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 3: He's been out there every day except for the Green 191 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 3: Bay week, but he's you know, he's been able to participate. 192 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 3: So hopefully I'll be ready to go for the opener 193 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: and you know, look forward to having them. 194 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 4: Bill. 195 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: I know you didn't have quarterback conversations with Gronk, But 196 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 2: how difficult is it to defend the which it looks 197 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: like the NFL is kind of transition into that mobile 198 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: quarterback in obviously a guy like Jalen Hurts that you'll 199 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 2: see this year, But how difficult and what makes it 200 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 2: so difficult to defend those type of players? 201 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, the hardest thing is when those players have 202 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 3: multiple skills. I mean, if if all the quarterback can 203 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 3: do is run, then that's not as nearly as big 204 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 3: of a problem as if the quarterback can run an throw. 205 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 3: And so I think, you know, when you see a 206 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 3: guy like Hurts that can hurt you with his feet 207 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 3: and also you know, get the ball to his skill 208 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: players in the passing game, and that's gives you a 209 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 3: lot to defend. But it's just kind of one or 210 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 3: the other. Then you know, then the guy has to 211 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 3: be really good at whatever that is. So if he 212 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 3: can't run, it needs to be a really you know, 213 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 3: good elite passer like Brady was as good as there was. 214 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 3: And then there are guys that can run that aren't. 215 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 3: You know, they're hard to defend, but if they're one 216 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 3: dimensional them, that's easier than if they can do both. 217 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: And when they can do both, you know, guys like 218 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 3: you know, Deshaun Watson and Lamar Jackson, guys like that 219 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 3: Mahomes you know that. I mean, those are talking about 220 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 3: MVP type guys, so they're they're very hard to defend. 221 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: The Coaches Verdict with Curtis brought to you by Catches 222 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: Law Group, New England's injury pros at Catches Law dot com. 223 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: Catches is also proud to be the official law firm 224 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:35,359 Speaker 1: of the New England Patriots. 225 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 4: All right, Bill, try this one. So we have this 226 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 4: discussion at length about cash spending because the cap has 227 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 4: grown up so dramatically with the revenues in the NFL, 228 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 4: you know, growing each year. So right now the Patriots 229 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 4: are thirtieth and cash spending. Do you have a budget 230 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 4: of strict dollars per season that you must live within 231 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 4: or are you in charge of that? You get to 232 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 4: dictate the amount of money that you spend each year. 233 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 4: In other words, it's Robert Kraft say here, bill, here's 234 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 4: your budget or do you have the final say on 235 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 4: those decisions? 236 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 3: Right? The cash spending isn't really that relevant. It's cap spending, 237 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 3: and so teams have spent a lot of cash in 238 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 3: one year, probably don't spend a lot of cash in 239 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 3: the next year because you just can't sustain that. So 240 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 3: we've had high years, we've had low years, but our 241 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 3: cap spending has always been high. And that's the most 242 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 3: competitive position you can be in. So that's really the 243 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 3: cash spending. There's no cash cap. There's a salary cap, 244 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 3: and we spend in the salary cap. That's what's important. 245 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 4: But can't you create cap space by spending more cash 246 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 4: and guarantees? So teams like the bills. 247 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 3: Or temporarily you can. You can't. You can't sustain it. No, 248 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 3: I mean, you can't sustain the twenty years of success 249 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 3: that we sustain by overspending every year without having to 250 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 3: eventually pay those bills and play with a lesser team. 251 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 4: Do you think it is. 252 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 3: So I think if you look at the teams that 253 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: you know have done that, that's kind of where some 254 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 3: of them ended up. You know, Exsonville back in fourteen. 255 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 3: The Rams are going through it, Tampa's going through it now. 256 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 3: So I'm not saying there's anything right or wrong with it. 257 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 3: It's just a different way of doing things, and there's 258 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 3: you know, there's the results for doing that. 259 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 4: But isn't it far less punitive now given that the 260 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 4: cap has gone up as much as it has each year. 261 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 4: In other words, if you take money, you borrow it 262 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 4: off of a future season, it hasn't. 263 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 3: Really gone up. Again, I'm not really following your here. 264 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 4: The salary cap hasn't gone over the last twenty years. 265 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: Oh last twenty years. Yeah, But in the last three 266 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,599 Speaker 3: or four years it you know, was higher than to 267 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 3: drop down the COVID. Then it came back up, and 268 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 3: now it's going to accelerate in the next two or 269 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:37,239 Speaker 3: three years. 270 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 4: Because the new TV deal begins this year. 271 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 3: No, because the the COVID was restricted the cap and 272 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 3: then that was partially paid back, and I think the 273 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 3: next I don't know, two or three years whatever. You know, 274 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 3: to look at the exact numbers, but I don't. I 275 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: think it's two twenty five this year, and it's projected 276 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:54,599 Speaker 3: to go like two fifty two to seventy five, so 277 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 3: it's going to grow quite a bit in the next 278 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 3: couple of years. 279 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: You don't know this because you don't get a chance 280 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: to listen to the show. I'm assuming, But Curtis is 281 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: a guy who says the cap is irrelevant. 282 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 3: Well, it's relevant. It's it's the CAP's more relevant than 283 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 3: cash is. For sure. You want to use all your 284 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 3: cap space and put the best team you can on 285 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 3: the field. So whether that's paying more cash this year 286 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 3: and less next year, or this less this year and 287 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 3: more next year, is is really it's it does to me. 288 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 3: It doesn't really have a lot to do with the 289 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 3: cap spending the caps, and if you're not spending to 290 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 3: your cap, then that means you know, you could have 291 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 3: players that you know you're choosing not to have, or 292 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 3: if you spend your cap, then you fully exhausted all 293 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 3: of your spending. But again, that's a that comes over time. 294 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 3: It's not you can't look at it in a polaroid snapshot. 295 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 3: It's a multi year process. So you can overspend one year, 296 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 3: then at some point you're not gonna be able to 297 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 3: do that. 298 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 5: Last week we learned that you went to the Taylor 299 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 5: Swift concert. And I think people love to find out what. 300 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 4: You do outside of football. 301 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 5: And it's been interesting this all off season the TV 302 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 5: networks and the way that they've kind of dove into 303 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 5: football when they have, whether it's Netflix with the quarterback 304 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 5: Johnny Manziel, now the Florida documentary is out. Do you 305 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 5: watch any of that? Do you enjoy watching either guys 306 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 5: that are currently playing when it comes to quarterback, or 307 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 5: guys that used to play in the league when it 308 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 5: comes to Johnny Manziel, or just you know, any type 309 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 5: of documentary when it comes to the sport. Do you 310 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 5: do you sit down and watch those types of shows? 311 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 3: That's probably seen some of them. I don't, you know, 312 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 3: I don't know all the ones that are out there. 313 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 3: So we're still talking about Taylor Swift though. 314 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, people love their Swift everywhere. Yeah, Well, you 315 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 5: dropped a not you know, headline title of a song, 316 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 5: so you have to be a swiftye the you gotta 317 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 5: calm down. That's not you know, a lover or. 318 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 4: A radio hit. It's a good. 319 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 3: Song, one of my favorites. Okay, well there we go. 320 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: It means did Taylor reach out or any did her 321 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: team reach out or anything? 322 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I mean Bruce is in here last week. Yeah, 323 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 3: go from Taylor to Bruce and yeah, you know I 324 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 3: went to Bruce. Yeah, go to Sea Bruce. Yeah did 325 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 3: you did you see the show right now? 326 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 4: Uh? 327 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 3: Listen to him warm up? Yeah, so sub part of it. 328 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty amazing that he's still doing that. 329 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's doing great seventy three years old. Yeah, well, 330 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, he and John really music was 331 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 3: at its height there when I was with the Giants 332 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 3: in New Jersey and in the you know, eighties, and yeah, 333 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 3: those two guys are amazing. But yeah, it's great Sea 334 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 3: Bruce and you know, love love what he does. So 335 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 3: you can play both ends of it. Like Bruce, he 336 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 3: played Taylor, you can play John. I mean, hopefully we'll 337 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 3: see him up here soon. 338 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Aaron Rodgers played a little bit the other night. 339 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: Is this the in your mind? Is this the most 340 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: competitive that the division has been in quite some time? 341 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? You know what, I'm not really too focused on 342 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,119 Speaker 3: everybody else right now. Like we'll get to them obviously, 343 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 3: and we'll get to the Jets pretty soon third week 344 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 3: of the year, but I'm really trying to focus on 345 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 3: getting our team, uh to the best point that we 346 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 3: can and so that's really where most of our attention 347 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 3: has been. Obviously, we've got an eye on Philadelphia and 348 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 3: you know, we played the Jets in Miami early, so 349 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 3: you know, we're aware of those teams, but I haven't 350 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 3: really spent a lot of time on them. The majority 351 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 3: amount of time has been putting, you know, the effort 352 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 3: into our team and trying to, you know, see how 353 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 3: we can get ourselves in the best position to compete, 354 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 3: you know, over a seventeen game schedule, regular season schedule, 355 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 3: and then we'll take these opponents one at a time 356 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 3: when we get to them. 357 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: Well, coach is corn a question for me? 358 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 4: Bill? 359 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 2: As a new coach, I have a freshman quarterback that's 360 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 2: going to stop very similar to Mac Jones's rookie year. 361 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 2: What would be the best advice to give a young 362 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: guy who's going to be making his first you know, 363 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 2: start playing at a higher level and some of the 364 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: advice maybe that you gave to Mac when he was 365 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: a rookie that I maybe I can give to my 366 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: young my young pup, my young freshman quarterback. 367 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, not knowing, not knowing the player and not 368 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 3: knowing you know, what you're asking them to do or not. 369 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. That'll be a hard question 370 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 3: for me to answer. 371 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 4: Well, he's he's a I'm sure. 372 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 3: I'm sure that with your experience offensively, yep, it's not 373 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 3: like you were. You know, you played a lot of offense. 374 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 3: You've got some different systems, you know, I'm sure that 375 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 3: you'll play to his strengths and let him do what 376 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 3: he can do and the things that maybe he is 377 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 3: less experienced with, you might ask him to do a 378 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 3: little bit less of, even though you might like some 379 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 3: of those things. If it's not one of his strengths 380 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 3: until it is, maybe you would hold back a little 381 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,479 Speaker 3: bit on that. I don't know, But again, that's, honestly, 382 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 3: for me, a pretty hypothetical question, not knowing the player 383 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 3: in detail. 384 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 2: Young mobile can throw the ball kind of like that 385 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, but still only a freshman. 386 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 3: In high school. 387 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 2: Well, but he has those he has those skill sets 388 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 2: as far as the high school level. Well, you know, 389 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: he's mobile and he could throw on the Runnis was 390 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 2: a really good baseball player, so. 391 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 3: Well, if he's Patrick Mahomes, I would getting the ball 392 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 3: and get out of the way. 393 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: Speaking of quarterbacks, being the student of history of the 394 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: game that you are, our guy Shine said last week 395 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: that Joe Montana was no longer a top five quarterback 396 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: in NFL history. 397 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 3: Do you weigh in on that? Yeah, I don't know. 398 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, I don't really focus too much on 399 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: the top five NFL. There's a lot of great players. 400 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 3: It really depends on what you're looking for. And some 401 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 3: of the players like Sammy Ball and guys like that 402 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 3: that played in a different era, it's hard to compare 403 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 3: them to you know, or Bart Starr guys like that. 404 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 3: I'm saying Bart Star is the top five, but you know, 405 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 3: in that day they threw fifteen, maybe twenty passes a game. 406 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 3: I mean, now you get that in the first quarter. 407 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 3: So it's a different game. And it's hard to compare 408 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 3: players of different Eras you look at the great two 409 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 3: way players from call it pre nineteen fifty, how many 410 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 3: players in the league now could actually play both ways 411 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 3: and be good at both offense and defense. I don't 412 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 3: know how many of those there are you know, So 413 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 3: it's it's but it's a different game. So guys that 414 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 3: are good in this era might not have been good 415 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 3: in another area. Guys that are good in another era 416 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 3: might not have been good that not be good in 417 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 3: this era. So the rules have change, and I know 418 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 3: the size of the players and all that's changed a 419 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 3: little bit, but just just the way the game is structured, 420 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 3: and it's just different. That's a tough one. 421 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: Our Diesel Direct Player of the Game Friday night was 422 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: Calvin Munson. Thoughts on what he's shown you so far 423 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: this season. 424 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, Calvin's had a really good uh spring and fall. 425 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 3: You know, we got him last year around midseason after 426 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 3: Miami released them, and you know he's coming off in 427 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 3: injury and and it was healthy. But you know, I'd 428 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 3: say it's healthy, much healthier this year, and you know, 429 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 3: it's been very productive. PLAYMATEE on the interception was really 430 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 3: you know, heck of a reaction for him and had 431 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 3: a couple of tackles for loss and showed up in 432 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 3: the kicking game. So he said, nice here. 433 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: All right, So you got some dis visions to make 434 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 1: and you guys, you guys get together today and and 435 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: get ready to make those make those cuts. 436 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 3: Is that how that goes? Uh? So we have to 437 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 3: be have to make those by four o'clock tomorrow. And 438 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 3: at this time of year, there's a lot of roster 439 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 3: movement throughout the league. You know, they'll be probably thirteen 440 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 3: hundred transactions including the ones that have already started, uh 441 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 3: this weekend. So that's that's a lot of players to 442 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 3: go through. Our our scouting staffs involved in some other 443 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 3: conversations as they always are with you know, our players, 444 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 3: other players, and you know that type of thing. So 445 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 3: it's an ongoing process really, so you know, we'll see 446 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 3: how things play out and you know, what we feel 447 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 3: like is best for the team. Those will be the 448 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 3: decisions that we make. 449 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: Everybody wants to know, is there room for Malik Mania 450 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: on this team? 451 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,959 Speaker 3: Well, Malik's, uh, you know, a really interesting player. I mean, 452 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 3: you know, kid never played you know, recee her before 453 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 3: and and or return kicks and and he's done both 454 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 3: you know, his return kick offs and played receiver as 455 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 3: well as plank quarterback. So now we'll see I go. 456 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 3: He certainly he's got some things on his resume so 457 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 3: to other players, So we'll see how all that plays. 458 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: Out all right, Bill, Well, thanks for coming down this morning. 459 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: I think we should do this in person every week. 460 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 3: I know I'm here, all right. 461 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: So we come out every week. 462 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 3: We'll do it. You guys want to yeah, hit the traffic. 463 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 4: Yeah all right? 464 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 3: Thanks Bill, all right, you got it great. Thank you. 465 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: That is Bill Belichick on a Patriots Monday from Gillette 466 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: Stadium