Speaker 1: I am all in again.
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Speaker 2: Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.
Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am in podcast one eleven productions.
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio Media. iHeart podcasts. We are gonna discuss season two
Speaker 1: episode to Hammerton Vales with the one and only Stossy
Speaker 1: Schroeder from the Bravo Universe vander Pump Rules, Fame Let's
Speaker 1: rock and Roll, Stossy.
Speaker 2: Let's rock and Roll. Scott, I just want to call
Speaker 2: you Luke the whole time. That's so annoying, so annoying.
Speaker 2: No no, no, okay, great, great, this is huge for
Speaker 2: me right now. Okay, I am very excited about this.
Speaker 1: I'm glad. I am too. I am too. I read
Speaker 1: your bio. It's quite impressive. You're doing all kinds of
Speaker 1: great things.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: My guest is Stossy Schroeder and she is quite a
Speaker 1: glittering star.
Speaker 2: Oh, a glittering star.
Speaker 1: From Bravos vander Pump Rules. She's top performer nine years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's got a podcast to live show Trend where they're
Speaker 1: sold out straight up and with Stasi Tour, which is
Speaker 1: really amazing. I mean, how fun is that just now,
Speaker 1: it's so much fun.
Speaker 2: Like being able to travel and do live shows is
Speaker 2: like it's the actual best.
Speaker 1: If you know anything about podcasting, that's a big deal.
Speaker 1: You've got to be a top podcaster, top personality to
Speaker 1: go on tour because are expensive and they're.
Speaker 2: Hard people, you know, and then people need to get
Speaker 2: babysitters and then ubers to get there there. It's you know,
Speaker 2: it's a production to go to a live show. But
Speaker 2: I've been podcasting for ten years.
Speaker 1: Really that long?
Speaker 2: Yea a really long time.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe you give me a few tips. I'm only
Speaker 1: this is only my fourth year before.
Speaker 2: You're a veteran now, Okay, you're a veteran now.
Speaker 1: So she's returning to reality TV with a new Hulu
Speaker 1: docu series, Dacy says, and will appearance season to Evander
Speaker 1: pum Villa. She lives in Ally with her husband Bo Clark,
Speaker 1: and her two kids. This is great, welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 2: Thank you you are making my morning. I love an
Speaker 2: excuse to watch rewatch Gilmore Girls, so like it was
Speaker 2: a treat to just rewatch this episode. And I am
Speaker 2: fangirling so hard right now. Thank you for having me,
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: So you may have appeared in the series, but you
Speaker 1: know stars hollow like you said, oh yeah, And before
Speaker 1: we jump in, I got to ask, Okay, when did
Speaker 1: you first become a Gilmore Girl fan? Who or what
Speaker 1: pulled you in?
Speaker 2: I was late to it, so I didn't watch it
Speaker 2: growing up. I didn't watch it, you know when I
Speaker 2: was in high school, which is like everyone my age
Speaker 2: watched it in high school. And then throughout my twenties
Speaker 2: and my early thirties, I mean I'm thirty six, everyone said,
Speaker 2: you would love this show, Gilmore Girls. You would love it,
Speaker 2: you would love it. This is so you, this is
Speaker 2: so up your alley. And then when I was pregnant
Speaker 2: with my seconds. This was two years ago. I was
Speaker 2: pregnant with my second child, my son, I decided like, okay, well,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to commit to a show postpartum, because
Speaker 2: you know when you have a baby, then you kind
Speaker 2: of have like a month or two to just like
Speaker 2: relax and nest. And I'm like, what is that show
Speaker 2: going to be? And I chose Gilmore Girls. And when
Speaker 2: I tell you, it didn't take It didn't take me
Speaker 2: two months. It took me two seconds. And my daughter
Speaker 2: watched it with me. My husband would come in and
Speaker 2: watch it with me, and so I became obsessed, like
Speaker 2: a couple years ago. So I'm new, but I know
Speaker 2: all the things.
Speaker 1: Wow, you know all the things.
Speaker 2: I know all the things all.
Speaker 1: Right, Hammers and veils. Here's a little synopsis. Laurla I
Speaker 1: tries to decide what veil length she would like to
Speaker 1: wear for her wedding to Max while Rory starts the
Speaker 1: summer session at Chilton and volunteers to build houses for
Speaker 1: the needy. Meanwhile, Dean is feeling left out of Rory's
Speaker 1: life when she starts planning a slew of extracurricular activities.
Speaker 1: And might I add that Luke is feeling a little
Speaker 1: butt hurt here?
Speaker 2: Can I ask you about that?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: As an actor who was playing Luke, I mean you
Speaker 2: are Luke to me? Like, did you guys know when
Speaker 2: you started filming that your love story was gonna be
Speaker 2: like the one throughout every season? Or were you just
Speaker 2: surprised every like did you know that you were supposed
Speaker 2: to be It's clear to the audience, like you have
Speaker 2: a thing for Loralai and Lorela is a thing for you, right,
Speaker 2: but it takes so long for you guys to get
Speaker 2: together that I'm like, was he I look back at
Speaker 2: that episode, I'm like, was he butt hurt because he's
Speaker 2: not with Loralai? Or is there's like something else going on?
Speaker 2: Because it took y'all so long.
Speaker 1: But I think that's the magic of this, of that storyline,
Speaker 1: is that it did take so long. Yeah, because you
Speaker 1: don't see that. You don't see that anymore. You don't
Speaker 1: see it at all.
Speaker 2: No, you really don't. And the build up is so
Speaker 2: satisfying ones, yes, yeah, yes, And.
Speaker 1: So in fact, we're discussing this just recently about how
Speaker 1: special that relationship is and how long it took to
Speaker 1: develop and how lucky I feel being a part of that,
Speaker 1: you know, and being able to inhabit that character that long.
Speaker 1: But I mean we knew, I mean, my team and
Speaker 1: I knew from the beginning because I was cast as
Speaker 1: a guest star in the pilot. I wasn't even a
Speaker 1: series regular, and it was a kind of a heat
Speaker 1: check with Lauren. So when I went up to Toronto
Speaker 1: and you know, they'd all read the script just like
Speaker 1: I did, and they said, well, the diner appears the
Speaker 1: very first scene. It is the very last scene. So
Speaker 1: this is a thing, you know, so they want to
Speaker 1: make this work and build this over this over the seasons.
Speaker 1: It's a successful show. So we kind of knew that
Speaker 1: that was like the relationship. And as the years went on,
Speaker 1: the first couple of years, the fans were so enamored
Speaker 1: of that relationship. We kind of knew that anything can
Speaker 1: happen in television. Anybody can get sort of like pushed aside,
Speaker 1: and you know, we felt pretty good about it lasting well.
Speaker 2: Because y'all's chemistry was off the charts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty good. That's pretty good. Directed by the
Speaker 1: great Michael Cattleman and written by the great Amy Sherman Palladino.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about storyline, So let's talk about
Speaker 1: the Paris and Rory stuff. Okay, as much as Paris
Speaker 1: wants to avoid Rory, she keeps Clock and Rory throughout
Speaker 1: the episode. Your initial thoughts on the Paris and Rory
Speaker 1: storyline overall and this episode particular.
Speaker 2: Well, overall, I love it, like I love I love
Speaker 2: when there's like a mean girl with heart. I don't know,
Speaker 2: like the evolution of that of seeing that like someone's
Speaker 2: just like not so one dimensional and that there's like
Speaker 2: pain underneath there, and there's reasons why she's doing the
Speaker 2: things that she's doing and the pressure that she's under,
Speaker 2: and that she's actually just really insecure at Paris is
Speaker 2: just really insecure, and so she's taking all of her
Speaker 2: insecurities out on Rory, even though she's drawn to Rory
Speaker 2: and you could tell she wants to be friends with Rory,
Speaker 2: so like, I'm a big fan of that friendship. Over
Speaker 2: the course of every single season, I mean, in this
Speaker 2: episode you can see her kind of soften a bit
Speaker 2: in moments, you know, I just, yeah, I really like Paris.
Speaker 1: Did you find it odd that Paris told her gave
Speaker 1: her all of that information about extracurriculars and how Harvard
Speaker 1: views extracurriculars and that she's like, if she's enemies with her,
Speaker 1: why is she telling you this stuff?
Speaker 2: Right? But that's what makes this show so interesting is
Speaker 2: because it's like not obvious, right, you know, it makes
Speaker 2: you think and it's so so it's like, oh, Okay,
Speaker 2: there's something there with Paris where like she want you
Speaker 2: see that bit of heart in her where she's like,
Speaker 2: I want to be close to Rory in some way,
Speaker 2: you know, Right now, like if I don't like someone,
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that, I'm not helping them out.
Speaker 1: So maybe it was Paris felt she was so far
Speaker 1: ahead of the game and Rory was so far behind
Speaker 1: the game in terms of extracurriculars. She was just rubbing
Speaker 1: it in her face, like it's too late for you. You're
Speaker 1: not getting in Harvard. This is why I've been doing
Speaker 1: this since I was four years old, volunteering in Boom boom,
Speaker 1: boom boom, and look at you. You're you know you're
Speaker 1: gonna graduate in a couple years. You've got nothing. So
Speaker 1: I'm going to Harvard. You're not Boom, there you go.
Speaker 1: So she felt secured imparting the information.
Speaker 2: For sure. I also feel like that was her like unloading,
Speaker 2: Like that was her getting out like everything that she's
Speaker 2: been stressed about and having to deal with her whole
Speaker 2: life and like do more, do more, accomplish more, it's
Speaker 2: never enough. It like almost felt like it was like
Speaker 2: a little therapy session for her. She just like wants
Speaker 2: to purge and she wants someone to connect with her
Speaker 2: and she wants someone to listen. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: because she's so like frustrated with how her life is
Speaker 2: she has to just like make Rory feel like shit also.
Speaker 1: Right, you know, and it's like Paris is not the
Speaker 1: type of person that really cares about any of these people.
Speaker 1: She's just doing it because she has to do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and now Rory's put in the same position she's She
Speaker 1: had that one line that did not age well. By
Speaker 1: the way, very few things in this show don't age well.
Speaker 1: There's not a lot. There's some stuff, right, but it's
Speaker 1: I don't know it was. It was a line, right,
Speaker 1: and so like these people don't care, they don't mean,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like their heart's not in. They're just
Speaker 1: doing it to get into harm.
Speaker 2: I know, yes, are.
Speaker 1: You a little surprised? Whore? I didn't know that to
Speaker 1: begin with, about the extra currimulars.
Speaker 2: You know, one would think, you know, because when I
Speaker 2: was growing up, we knew the drill. You can't just
Speaker 2: make good grades.
Speaker 1: No, everybody knew it.
Speaker 2: You know, you gotta be doing I knew it.
Speaker 1: In junior high school. I know it in high school.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like, yeah, that's common knowledge.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. So you know, I hadn't thought about
Speaker 2: that when I was watching the episode. But you're right,
Speaker 2: like she should have known that, But also who who
Speaker 2: was going to teach her? I don't know her mom
Speaker 2: wasn't going to Laurelize not isn't helpful in that department.
Speaker 2: But like, you know, you kind of just in your
Speaker 2: own school. You grow up just hearing conversations from other kids.
Speaker 2: You just you know, to do the most.
Speaker 1: Even from Richard and Emily, especially Richard.
Speaker 2: You went to Yale, right, but like how close were
Speaker 2: they up until first episode?
Speaker 1: Extra curriculars extracurricularus. So now she's building homes. One of
Speaker 1: the the funniest moments of the whole episode for me,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, was the bejeweled hammer and then I
Speaker 1: want iff yeger Biff Jeger takes it. He looks at it,
Speaker 1: he's holding it and he's just staring at it. Says, yeah,
Speaker 1: my mom dressed it all up. He goes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: she dressed it all up. All right. She's just at like,
Speaker 1: what's going on?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but where can we get one of those hammers?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: You know, that's the way to get me to hang
Speaker 2: things in my house. You know, I'll stop paying People
Speaker 2: are asking my husband if I have a bedazzled hammer.
Speaker 1: You know what that's that's a good idea. I think
Speaker 1: I'm going to bring this up with consumer products at
Speaker 1: Warner Bus. Make a mini one, not a big one,
Speaker 1: like like a mini that's not bad, But damn you no,
Speaker 1: it's not. You think that would sell? You think fans
Speaker 1: would love a mini bejeweled pink hammer?
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially put it on a keychain? Are you joking?
Speaker 1: Would be good, wouldn't it? It would be really good.
Speaker 1: It does kind of represent Laurela. I mean it's like
Speaker 1: all the fluff and the.
Speaker 2: Fun and it's a hammer.
Speaker 1: Got mess with her here?
Speaker 2: Correct?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if Lorelai wasn't inanimate object, definitely the bedazzled hammer.
Speaker 1: So true. All right, So now we had the little
Speaker 1: confrontation between Paris and Rory. It's hurt. It's Paris a spot.
Speaker 1: She's been working on that spot. Get out of here.
Speaker 2: What can I just say? Is that how people go
Speaker 2: and build houses?
Speaker 1: Because I've done that.
Speaker 2: So how did you know what to do if I
Speaker 2: showed up to go home, build house? Where do you
Speaker 2: put the nail?
Speaker 1: Well? They show you. And Plus I worked on construction
Speaker 1: sites when I was growing up, So my stepfather was
Speaker 1: a contractor, so my summer jobs would be, you know,
Speaker 1: basically cleaning out giant areas of sheet rock that was
Speaker 1: all broken up and it took forever. But sometimes hammering stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't trust me to build a house
Speaker 2: like that if I found out my house was made
Speaker 2: by people like Rory.
Speaker 1: No, it's a social scene because when I did it,
Speaker 1: when I did Habitat for Humanity, the first time I
Speaker 1: met both Derek, Oh, we were hammering next to each other.
Speaker 2: Oh, so you guys are mingling, you know, work in
Speaker 2: the room.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we were mingling so much, but
Speaker 1: you know, she was next.
Speaker 2: To me CNBCNE while making a house exactly.
Speaker 1: All right, so she's balancing school. Rory's balancing school, community
Speaker 1: service college apps. Let me ask you, Stussy, Were you
Speaker 1: a Rory at Paris? Maybe Lane in high school? Who
Speaker 1: are you?
Speaker 2: Oh? I kind of think I was more like Lane
Speaker 2: actually really really yeah, I kind of kept I had
Speaker 2: my inners. Just I wasn't like a girl with like
Speaker 2: a shit ton of friends. I didn't really like go
Speaker 2: to parties that much. I just I made good grades.
Speaker 2: I had my group of like five core friends. I
Speaker 2: was like president of the drama club and like that.
Speaker 2: Those were all my extracurricular activities and I kind of
Speaker 2: kept to myself, so I wasn't so obsessed the way
Speaker 2: that Rory is. You know, I wasn't like a brainiac,
Speaker 2: and like I definitely wasn't like Paris like all on
Speaker 2: top of her shit like that. And I actually like
Speaker 2: didn't bully people, So there is that. I feel like
Speaker 2: I was more like a lane.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right, let's talk about this storyline
Speaker 1: Rory summer plans and Deans insecurities.
Speaker 2: Deans such a little weasel.
Speaker 1: It's an he gets really triggered fast.
Speaker 2: I know. He's just like, he's such a little weasel.
Speaker 2: And it's hard for me to talk about this episode
Speaker 2: just specifically without the rest of the seasons clouding my judgment.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try real hard.
Speaker 1: Opine away, don't don't restrain yourself.
Speaker 2: It's just like, I know, ever see any good moments
Speaker 2: from Dean. I'm never like that there nice night, Yeah right, No,
Speaker 2: Dean is just kind of like naggy.
Speaker 1: He's not exactly supportive, is he not at all? He
Speaker 1: doesn't really understand and he kind of just.
Speaker 2: Like gaslights a little bit and then he just you know,
Speaker 2: he throws a hissy fit, and then they don't talk
Speaker 2: for a while, and then he's like, oh, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, that's exhausting. That's exhausting.
Speaker 1: It is, it is exhausting. He even like kind of
Speaker 1: raises his voice to her. Donny gets a little aggressive
Speaker 1: throughout the show. Yes, and this guy's six. She sees
Speaker 1: six 'y four. You imagine being shrieked at by six
Speaker 1: y four when you're like, I mean, you know, Alexis said,
Speaker 1: was she five five five six five seven?
Speaker 2: I don't know, but good point. Tall dudes, listen up,
Speaker 2: No shouting at us.
Speaker 1: Stop shouting at people. Tall dudes. Later, at Lorelized engagement party,
Speaker 1: Dean apologizes, you know, he just sort of shows up there.
Speaker 2: He is, you know, which that would annoy me because right, okay,
Speaker 2: you have this giant party and like part of parties
Speaker 2: are looking forward to the party, like you know, everything
Speaker 2: leading up to the party. That's half of the whole
Speaker 2: point of the party. So you're telling me that she
Speaker 2: was she had to spend that whole entire time not
Speaker 2: knowing if he was going to come, so she didn't
Speaker 2: get to enjoy the lead up to the party because
Speaker 2: she's like, I don't know if my boyfriend, my weasel boyfriend,
Speaker 2: is going to show up or not. And then just
Speaker 2: midway he Waltz is in making it about him. Can't
Speaker 2: even be on time right right?
Speaker 1: I don't know. No, it's a tough one for Dean.
Speaker 1: Have you ever felt threatened by someone's future? You ever
Speaker 1: been in Rory's or Dean?
Speaker 2: No, I think everyone's always just been threatened by my future.
Speaker 1: That was my next question, Who has been? Has anyone
Speaker 1: ever felt threatened by your future?
Speaker 2: I've been in relationships where dudes were threatened to by
Speaker 2: my future, So yeah, I feel that I feel Rory, were.
Speaker 1: You this motivated by school? Did you want to get
Speaker 1: to a certain college when you were in high school?
Speaker 2: I knew I just wanted to go to college in
Speaker 2: LA because I'm from New Orleans originally, and so I
Speaker 2: wanted to go to USC or Loyola Marymount. It didn't
Speaker 2: have to be like a Harvard school. I just knew
Speaker 2: where I wanted to be, and I knew I loved
Speaker 2: school and that it was important to me. So but
Speaker 2: I'm also the type of person where I do just
Speaker 2: like the amount that I'm required to do so that
Speaker 2: I know I'll get what I want. Like, I'm not
Speaker 2: going way above and beyond, Like I can see the
Speaker 2: line of like I know how to get into this
Speaker 2: school and this is ABCD. I'm not going to do
Speaker 2: more than that. I'm not going to do more than that.
Speaker 2: I'm going to do exactly what I need to do
Speaker 2: and then enjoy my life.
Speaker 1: Hmm, all right, Okay, laurelized engagement in Emily's response, Okay,
Speaker 1: if we're gonna talk about this storyline, she finally Laurel
Speaker 1: I does accept Max's proposal. However, she doesn't told her
Speaker 1: mother yes. So what a great setup at that dinner,
Speaker 1: that Friday night dinner was the perfect set up. Talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about that.
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, house goals, I need to say that,
Speaker 2: like that Emily Gilmore's house Richard, that needs to go
Speaker 2: on my vision board in terms of just like you know,
Speaker 2: home decor. Emily's my favorite character. Okay, So, like this
Speaker 2: was this scene hurt. Thank god for the end of
Speaker 2: this episode, okay, where we find out why, but this
Speaker 2: was so cruel in the moment and for like the
Speaker 2: viewers to not understand why Emily would be so dismissive
Speaker 2: of Laura. I it was just like it was shocking.
Speaker 2: It was like, that's like parent, that's like a child
Speaker 2: abuse and it just kind of like hits home where
Speaker 2: you know, when you become an adult, your relationship with
Speaker 2: your parents change and you see their flaws and they're
Speaker 2: not like the perfect person that you thought they were.
Speaker 2: It kind of just it makes you think about your
Speaker 2: own parents. But yeah, that scenes, really that's a hard
Speaker 2: watch scene.
Speaker 1: Yeah, funny they managed if Lauren managed to find the
Speaker 1: humor in it, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I mean I did. I guess when her and
Speaker 2: Rory are walking away like walking through stars hollow afterwards,
Speaker 2: because Laura always uses humor, you know, to cope, which,
Speaker 2: like I get it, relate, definitely relate, But in the moment,
Speaker 2: I don't remember any humor. It was just more like,
Speaker 2: holy shit, how could she say this? How could Emily
Speaker 2: say this to her? Maybe we'll be there. If not,
Speaker 2: we'll send a gift.
Speaker 1: That's cold, man, it's so cold. Yeah. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, she and get told.
Speaker 2: We find that out in the end, though, So I
Speaker 2: had what people like me have to watch thirty more
Speaker 2: minutes of television before we find out why it felt
Speaker 2: like why Emily?
Speaker 1: That was in the previous episode.
Speaker 2: No, we find out in the end I did the
Speaker 2: rewatch yesterday.
Speaker 1: No. No, But in the previous episode we see that
Speaker 1: Suki makes the phone call to Emily from the kitchen
Speaker 1: and says, how do you want to do this engagement party?
Speaker 1: And she didn't let Emily didn't let on that she
Speaker 1: didn't know.
Speaker 2: She just I forgot about that.
Speaker 1: Listen, right, And she listened and said, well, I'll let
Speaker 1: me think about it and I'll get back to you,
Speaker 1: and she hoped the phone. Devastated.
Speaker 2: I forgot about that. Yeah, Oh that changes everything. That
Speaker 2: would have you know, it would have been I should
Speaker 2: have just also rewatched the previous episode because it would
Speaker 2: have made my life, no selfishly, because I was just
Speaker 2: like heartbroken watching it again yesterday, and that would have
Speaker 2: eased my pain a little bit to like know her
Speaker 2: motivation and freason, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, right, So there's yeah, So there's that. And
Speaker 1: I loved the scene with Richard and Rory me too
Speaker 1: make a nice yeah, and he was so happy, No,
Speaker 1: it was so terrified that he'd ruined that relationship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was quite quite a couple of scenes. So you're
Speaker 1: married in a mother Stacey, I.
Speaker 2: Am, and you know what, I married a luke. We
Speaker 2: joke about this all the time because my husband loves
Speaker 2: a flannel shirt and he wears a blue Rams baseball
Speaker 2: cap almost every single day. I'm just like, and he's like,
Speaker 2: can be kind of curmudgeony. You know, he's the nicest,
Speaker 2: best human being in the world, but like, you know,
Speaker 2: he's got that curmudgeony like vibe to him sometimes, maybe
Speaker 2: because we have kids. So I'm like, you are luke,
Speaker 2: I married a luke.
Speaker 1: They're out there. There's a lot of them out there,
Speaker 1: you know, you just got to find them, all right.
Speaker 1: So do you think do you think that either Emily
Speaker 1: or Laurela handle this situation poorly or do you understand
Speaker 1: their perspectives because I don't know. I kind of understand
Speaker 1: where both of them are coming from, and that's kind
Speaker 1: of the beauty of the writing. Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean they both had their reasons to be bent, right
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 2: I just kind of prefer in life a more direct
Speaker 2: approach to solving problems instead of just like you know, Okay,
Speaker 2: So since Emily knew and we found out that Emily
Speaker 2: knew about it, Like it's got it's such a passive
Speaker 2: aggressive girl move to just be like maybe we'll be
Speaker 2: in town where it's like, this is your daughter. This
Speaker 2: isn't the moment for passive aggression. This isn't the moment
Speaker 2: till just like this isn't this isn't about you. This
Speaker 2: is also her wedding, right, this is about Laura. I.
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes the parent needs to be recognized that
Speaker 2: they're the parent. And even if your kid's grown and
Speaker 2: they're an adult now, they're still the child.
Speaker 1: But I think this episode is about insecurities. Everybody's displaying
Speaker 1: their insecurities in a way that we've seen before. But collectively,
Speaker 1: it's like every single character is vulnerable and insecure. Look, yeah, Max, Laura,
Speaker 1: La Richard, everybody's insecure. Everybody.
Speaker 2: You should rename this, Rename this episode the warmer. Security
Speaker 2: needs to be in it.
Speaker 1: Hammerson vails the reckoning. Yeah, so who would use dosy
Speaker 1: expect to take the high road in this situation. You
Speaker 1: would expect it would be emily right.
Speaker 2: Correct, But it wasn't.
Speaker 1: Wasn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was actually surprised by Laura. I I was
Speaker 2: surprised by Loralai coming then and asking for Emily's advice,
Speaker 2: you know, her veil like that and extending that olive branch,
Speaker 2: and that was surprising because like Laurai doesn't always make
Speaker 2: the best decisions. That was a good one.
Speaker 1: But what a great scene between those two, right.
Speaker 2: Also where a Tiara more people need to get married
Speaker 2: and Tiara's I said it.
Speaker 1: Your head's too big for a veil. I wore Tiara.
Speaker 1: That was a devastating line, right, I wore it to you.
Speaker 1: It'd be like me, let's have it. That's her pleading
Speaker 1: with her to connect. Yes, yeah, you know the writing
Speaker 1: is so good.
Speaker 2: It really is so good. Did you guys have people
Speaker 2: with posters off like the side of the No, you
Speaker 2: guys memorized all of it. But it's so much dialogue
Speaker 2: and it's so fast. That's so impressive. Could never be me.
Speaker 1: You could do it if it's a muscle, right, it's
Speaker 1: just a muscle that you develop. Yeah, if you've had
Speaker 1: any kind of real training, then you've done the classics,
Speaker 1: You've done big chunks of dialogue before you know, and
Speaker 1: you know how to kind of memorize stuff. And look,
Speaker 1: if the writing's really great, it's not that hard to
Speaker 1: memorize stuff because there's this sort of emotional logic to
Speaker 1: it and you learn that through your training and you know,
Speaker 1: theater experience and all that stuff. But yeah, this is
Speaker 1: why this was such, this is such a beautiful show.
Speaker 1: It's because that stuff it flows. So yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: as Lauren says, it's like music. It's just music.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: It's got a rhythm. It's a music, and the only
Speaker 1: way it works is if you really nail it. And
Speaker 1: it's just I'm not going to say it was easy
Speaker 1: to memorize at all, but it wasn't that hard because
Speaker 1: it if it's bad writing, that's impossible to memorize. That's
Speaker 1: when you're blowing lines all the time because it's like
Speaker 1: your brain doesn't hook into the to the dialogue because
Speaker 1: it's like and that's when people start like calling writers
Speaker 1: producers singless. And I was thinking, maybe it'd be better
Speaker 1: if we if I said this or said it this way,
Speaker 1: or you know whatever, right, because you know, they're just
Speaker 1: trying to impose some logic on it emotionally speaking. But
Speaker 1: nobody ever had an issue with this writing. That's so cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is, It's really cool. Yeah, otherwise nobody could have
Speaker 1: memorized a paragraph it was if it was if it
Speaker 1: was jumbled and lousy writing and it didn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: What do you think about the scene? First of all,
Speaker 1: what do you think about that engagement party on the whole.
Speaker 2: It's pretty spectacular, I mean, incredibly unrealistic. Show me a
Speaker 2: town where everyone's happy for one person, but follow like yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I know, yeah, but like so unrealistic. Who's paying for
Speaker 2: all of this? There were like crystals in the trees
Speaker 2: like that, it looked pricey, lovely but expensive, you know,
Speaker 2: everyone coming together to make it happen. Like the two
Speaker 2: chairs that they sat in, is that like a tradition
Speaker 2: somewhere that I was unaware of that they had to
Speaker 2: like sit in these two chairs with their gifts and
Speaker 2: open gifts. Pretty spectacular though, yeah, it was, it was.
Speaker 1: It was really something. Then Lurlai uh and and even
Speaker 1: Max showing his insecurities going off to Toronto to teach
Speaker 1: for the summer two months, Why don't you come?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: And he's like, is it you know? And we're setting
Speaker 1: it up for those two months because I'm now I know.
Speaker 1: In the next episodes, it's good back it's gonna be gone.
Speaker 1: Luke's going to be you know. Yeah, I mean, let
Speaker 1: me fix your porch, so good your toaster? Yeah, and
Speaker 1: she goes she goes to the diner. What do you
Speaker 1: think of that scene? She goes to the diner.
Speaker 2: That was kind of crazy because if I'm at my
Speaker 2: engagement party and my husband or my future husband is
Speaker 2: like my fiance, it's like, you know, excuse me for
Speaker 2: a second, and leaves these two giant thrones to go
Speaker 2: into the diner and to the girl who's there, and
Speaker 2: she's like, you know what, I think it would mean
Speaker 2: a lot for you to be there when like there
Speaker 2: is like that sexual tension, there's that chemistry, rude beyond shady.
Speaker 2: But like lor liaes shady, Yeah, Lorlai is shady.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: A lot of these people are shady. A lot of
Speaker 2: these characters are shady.
Speaker 1: Wow wow, So you thought it was it was a
Speaker 1: shady terms of in terms of character, like a loving
Speaker 1: woman who was in love with her fiance would never
Speaker 1: have would.
Speaker 2: Never, would never do that. It's like even if you
Speaker 2: felt that, let's just say you're not in love with
Speaker 2: your fiance, you know in your brain that you're making
Speaker 2: a mistake. At least have the respect for your fiance
Speaker 2: to not do that. Way to day, wait, way to day.
Speaker 1: Wait a day, Like.
Speaker 2: You know, oh, man, who's he talking to with that
Speaker 2: engagement party? Now he's alone on that throne, right without
Speaker 2: a queen, without a queen, his queen went hither yonder. Yeah,
Speaker 2: am I happy that she did it because as a viewer,
Speaker 2: that's very satisfying to see, but like not the best
Speaker 2: move in terms of her character, like her morals, who
Speaker 2: she is as a character.
Speaker 1: But even those lines that she said to him, it
Speaker 1: would mean a lot if you were there for me.
Speaker 1: Why tell me.
Speaker 2: Why you think that's a.
Speaker 1: Little you think that's a little cruel?
Speaker 2: I think, yeah I do. And like if it's because
Speaker 2: why we all what we all know? Because she has
Speaker 2: feelings for Luke, Like that's also mean to Luke. Why
Speaker 2: are you wanting Luke to then see you at your
Speaker 2: engagement party? We don't want to just torture him. I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: That's well he does. He shows up and it's like
Speaker 1: that classic shot with the three little kid ballerinas and
Speaker 1: Luke sitting there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of mean of LAURAAI.
Speaker 1: Wow, all right, the honesty. I love the honesty. Okay,
Speaker 1: so why is she there? What is she seeking from Luke?
Speaker 1: What do you think? Why did she go in there?
Speaker 1: What was she after? I don't want to believe that
Speaker 1: she's mean. Let's just say, let's just for the sake
Speaker 1: of argument, let's say she's not mean. What was she
Speaker 1: doing in there? What was she after?
Speaker 2: I don't think she's cruel or mean. I think she's
Speaker 2: selfish and so it's really just a and she doesn't
Speaker 2: think through her what her actions will do to other people,
Speaker 2: or like how it will make other people feel. Like
Speaker 2: when she leaves Max to go to the diner, I
Speaker 2: don't think she's thinking this is mean to Max, or
Speaker 2: like this is not this isn't right. She's just like
Speaker 2: she she's impulsive and goes on goes off on her
Speaker 2: urges and and does it. And I don't think when
Speaker 2: she goes to Luke she's thinking, well, why Luke, that
Speaker 2: would be hurtful for Luke to see me at my
Speaker 2: engagement party. She's just thinking about what she wants and
Speaker 2: she is she does not have that connection with Max
Speaker 2: that she does with Luke. And I think she's just
Speaker 2: like so desperate for that connection, but she doesn't.
Speaker 1: Know that she is.
Speaker 2: She needs therapy.
Speaker 1: I kind of see it as Rory's going to graduate,
Speaker 1: Laura is going to be an empty nester. Rory's going
Speaker 1: off to college. Laura doesn't really feel she has a life.
Speaker 1: She wants a life, she wants she wants a full life.
Speaker 1: She wants she's, she's, she loves men, She's in love
Speaker 1: with being in love, right, she wants that feeling. She
Speaker 1: hasn't really I mean, has she had a successful relationship
Speaker 1: in her life.
Speaker 2: No, she needs to do some inner work, but.
Speaker 1: Right, but she hasn't had a successful relationship in her life,
Speaker 1: has she? No, you can't say that Christopher was as successful.
Speaker 1: That's I mean, it's a great kid came out of it.
Speaker 2: Christopher is the worst, right start him.
Speaker 1: Here's this Max guy who seems like, I mean, he's
Speaker 1: checking all the boxes, isn't he?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And he suit her like, you know, in a fairytale sense,
Speaker 1: pursued her, and you know, maybe she's just a bit
Speaker 1: over her skis, as they say, right, and maybe going
Speaker 1: into Luke was like get me out from over my skis,
Speaker 1: a little bit, balance me a little. Maybe she goes
Speaker 1: to him for balance.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's so fair of you to just give
Speaker 2: her that credit. I just think that she is in.
Speaker 1: Love with Luke, but she doesn't does she know it?
Speaker 2: I mean, don't you know when you're attracted to someone
Speaker 2: and you feel like everyone knows, you know, when you
Speaker 2: feel that that thing pulling you to someone, you know,
Speaker 2: give me a break?
Speaker 1: But isn't she also very very good at compartmentalizing things
Speaker 1: because she had to do it with her parents in
Speaker 1: order to get away and survive and keep them away
Speaker 1: and thrive and have Rory thrive. And now it's a
Speaker 1: situation where yes, she may be pulled by Luke, but
Speaker 1: there's this guy Max, and he's kind of perfect and
Speaker 1: he's really pursuing her. So like, let's do that because
Speaker 1: that feels really right, and it's not there's nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with it, even on a subconscious level. My parents will
Speaker 1: approve of Max because he's an educated he's a man
Speaker 1: of letters. Yeah okay, and they what can they say?
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not wealthy, so whatt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think there's something to that where the
Speaker 2: whole reason she is with Max is just because she
Speaker 2: thinks that that's what she should be doing. And on paper,
Speaker 2: it's it's right, right, you know, right, but that's not
Speaker 2: who she is.
Speaker 1: But it looks like they're very attractive to one another, right,
Speaker 1: I mean they're they're steaming up the screen there quite
Speaker 1: a bit.
Speaker 2: Sure, but not like you guys. God, you guys are
Speaker 2: just talking about ketchup and stuff and it still is like,
Speaker 2: oh four play.
Speaker 1: You make a salient point, really really great point. Have
Speaker 1: you ever been a part of a community like Stars Hollow?
Speaker 2: You know where do those exist? No? I don't want
Speaker 2: everyone knowing my business all the time. I only know
Speaker 2: like three of my neighbors. Give me a break, No way,
Speaker 2: I need some privacy.
Speaker 1: That's La. Are you in La?
Speaker 2: I'm in La?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's pretty typical. It's it's kind of unusual
Speaker 1: of your neighbors. Man, it's like those people hide out
Speaker 1: actually know. I knew when I lived in La, I
Speaker 1: knew my neighbors really well. In fact, the people across
Speaker 1: the street, we would spend a lot of time at
Speaker 1: their house and vice versa and parties and things like that.
Speaker 1: They were fun. Depends on who your neighbors.
Speaker 2: Are, right for sure? Have you ever lived in a
Speaker 2: town like Stars Hollow?
Speaker 1: Kinda yeah, I kind of grew up in a place
Speaker 1: is like that.
Speaker 2: Really where everyone just like knew each other?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so when you like were walking down the store,
Speaker 2: it wasn't.
Speaker 1: It wasn't as small as stars Hollowing, Right, it was bigger, Right,
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't rural. And I think Star's Hollow
Speaker 1: is a little bit rural maybe, yeah, okay, but no, no, no,
Speaker 1: this this this town was in the middle of a
Speaker 1: big population center, but it was it was a small
Speaker 1: town definitely.
Speaker 2: Did you just like always see people walking down the
Speaker 2: street that you knew? Yeah, and did you cross the
Speaker 2: street to avoid them?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I would sometimes I just don't want to. I don't
Speaker 2: want to talk, you know.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, so let me ask you this. Did you
Speaker 1: find yourself more team Emily or team lorel Eye when
Speaker 1: it comes to this mother daughter drama?
Speaker 2: Oh, normally I'm team Emily on everything normally, Okay, in
Speaker 2: this situation, I relate more to Laura LII, which makes
Speaker 2: me be more team Lareli because we all just want
Speaker 2: to relate when we're watching something, right, right.
Speaker 1: Right, All right, okay, good, all right, Now we're going
Speaker 1: to focus on you, Stacy. Oh okay, that's about it.
Speaker 2: If I was a Star's Hollow resident, where would I
Speaker 2: be working? All?
Speaker 1: Right? Now I have some questions. Okay, okay, here we go.
Speaker 1: How many times have you watch Gilmore Girls? Oh, all
Speaker 1: the way through?
Speaker 2: All the way through? Two times? Because I just did
Speaker 2: it in the last few years, a couple of years.
Speaker 1: So what's your what's your favorite season from.
Speaker 2: The first season?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Me too, so far.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nothing like the first season.
Speaker 1: What do you think made it so special? Just because
Speaker 1: of the newness of it?
Speaker 2: I think it was the perfect storm of a million things.
Speaker 2: It's like, you have all of these interesting characters. You
Speaker 2: have the writing and the dialogue that's so quick, so funny,
Speaker 2: so witty, and then you have this like environment that's
Speaker 2: not what like any of us are used to, and
Speaker 2: it seems so comfy and quaint and charming. And then
Speaker 2: you add the seasons changing onto that, and you're like,
Speaker 2: what now I get to see like Autumn, and I
Speaker 2: get to see Christmas, Diamond Stars Hollow, and then like,
Speaker 2: to me, the seasons are also like main characters in
Speaker 2: the show. I just think it was the perfect storm
Speaker 2: of like everything all at once.
Speaker 1: Right, would you would you think Christmas. If we did
Speaker 1: a Christmas special, you'd be there for that.
Speaker 2: Could you make me an extra? I will act this
Speaker 2: out of that role. Give me no lines, but let
Speaker 2: me stand. Let me be an extra.
Speaker 1: Okay, right now, there's no talk. I'm just you know, well,
Speaker 1: you said something in an interview, Amy people are talking
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: Let's make it go viral, right now, Let's make the people.
Speaker 2: You know what, when people hear things talking about things,
Speaker 2: they that's how manifesting start, it is, you know, that's
Speaker 2: how you put it out into the universe.
Speaker 1: When the brainwash sync up and it gets the coal
Speaker 1: into the subconscious collective. Yeah, then things can really happen.
Speaker 1: Uh huh. What character can you relate to most on
Speaker 1: the show? Oh?
Speaker 2: Well, relate to most is different than favorite. Oh I mean, okay,
Speaker 2: so Emily is my favorite. But I guess I relate
Speaker 2: to Laureli the most, which is, like I don't like
Speaker 2: to admit because loralai Is is not the best. You know,
Speaker 2: I love watching her, but she's very selfish and chaotic
Speaker 2: and makes a lot of poor decisions over and over
Speaker 2: and over again.
Speaker 1: Just like we all do.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's why I relate. I see, like all the
Speaker 2: worst parts of myself in lore Line.
Speaker 1: Who would you want to be friends with from in
Speaker 1: real life?
Speaker 2: About Emily?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you want you want to hang out with them?
Speaker 2: I want to hang out with Emily. I want to
Speaker 2: go to fancy lunches. I want to. I want to.
Speaker 2: I aspire to be like Emily, you know, just like
Speaker 2: in my estate, just like with someone to cook for me.
Speaker 2: And I have courses in my dinner every night, Like
Speaker 2: I have a bread basket at my dinner table, a
Speaker 2: bread basket within the salad course. That it's goals.
Speaker 1: I you know, I think you're on your way to that.
Speaker 1: I mean you seem to be.
Speaker 2: Thanks.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of kicking ass and taking names.
Speaker 2: Thanks. Uh.
Speaker 1: Is there a character that you're not a fan of?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Dean. No, I really don't like Dean. I
Speaker 2: don't like Christopher at all. I think Jess at this
Speaker 2: whole debate over like whether it's Dean Jess or Logan.
Speaker 2: Logan is the only answer. Okay, Jess was so awful
Speaker 2: to her, Like we forget like the people when people
Speaker 2: are like, I'm team Jess just because he's broody and
Speaker 2: cool and like understands where he more than Dean does
Speaker 2: like that doesn't make him the good guy. That doesn't
Speaker 2: make him a good partner for Rory, Like he literally
Speaker 2: left her on a bus, like and didn't say anything
Speaker 2: to her. You guys, Team Jess people, are you mental?
Speaker 2: Like that? I can't get down with that.
Speaker 1: If you have a favorite moment or a line from
Speaker 1: the show Man.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I wish I would have thought about
Speaker 2: that one ahead of time. So much, there's so much
Speaker 2: right right.
Speaker 1: We'll come back to it. All right, let's talk about you. Okay,
Speaker 1: you got a lot happen, and you get a new baby,
Speaker 1: best selling book news and now season two vander pump Villa. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what can you tease about this next season? Oh?
Speaker 2: Well, it's really fun because it takes place. We all
Speaker 2: go to Italy and I got to bring my kids
Speaker 2: and my husband and we stayed in a twelfth century
Speaker 2: medieval castle in Italy and where or Viedo. Okay, it's
Speaker 2: this small town that's like on a plateau and the
Speaker 2: castle is right outside the town. It was like incredible
Speaker 2: to experience being there for a summer and just like
Speaker 2: immerse yourself into that town and everything. And it's about
Speaker 2: a staff of people young you know, young adults, you know,
Speaker 2: twenty somethings that are just the staff at this castle
Speaker 2: and they're hosting all of these different events and these
Speaker 2: guest groups are coming in and it's just a wild,
Speaker 2: fun show with just such a beautiful backdrop that sounds magical. Actually,
Speaker 2: it really was like to live in a medieval castle, right, Like,
Speaker 2: what am I ever going to get that chance again?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: It was kind of amazing.
Speaker 1: So what do you think makes vander Pump Villa feel
Speaker 1: different from your vander Pump Rules days.
Speaker 2: Oh, well, we're not you know, they're not focusing on
Speaker 2: our you know, shitty apartments in West Hollywood that we
Speaker 2: used to live and that's it's it's a completely different setting.
Speaker 2: That's I think that's what makes it so unique is
Speaker 2: there aren't that many reality shows out there where you
Speaker 2: you see this like beautiful historic setting and this a
Speaker 2: different country and all of these people going to that
Speaker 2: country and then to see like almost like it's kind
Speaker 2: of like Downton abbeyish where you see the upstairs downstairs,
Speaker 2: you know, you see both at the same time, where
Speaker 2: it's like you see what the guest groups are experiencing.
Speaker 2: These VIP guests and you see all the luxury, but
Speaker 2: then you also see what goes into making those events
Speaker 2: happen and those guests happy. So it's just like a
Speaker 2: whole blend of everything.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, how, how do you think Laura
Speaker 1: Gilmore would fit into the vander Pump Villa or even
Speaker 1: reality TV for that matter.
Speaker 2: She'd be such a great reality star. She would be,
Speaker 2: really would. She's so unhinged, she's so uninched. She just
Speaker 2: doesn't give a which is like, really, that's what makes
Speaker 2: a great reality star. You you gotta give, Like it's
Speaker 2: impossible to give zero Fox, but like maybe you could
Speaker 2: give like a few, but you really got to not care,
Speaker 2: and she doesn't. So like she would fully excel on
Speaker 2: a reality show. Now, I don't. I feel like on
Speaker 2: Vanner Pump Villa, if she was a staff member, she
Speaker 2: get fired halfway through.
Speaker 1: Right, Who do you think is scarier, Emily Gilmore or
Speaker 1: Lisa vander Pump.
Speaker 2: I would have said Lisa back in the day when
Speaker 2: I worked for her one, But nowadays we kind of
Speaker 2: have like a buddy relationship. I'm older now I don't
Speaker 2: work for her, so we're friends, so I'm not I'm
Speaker 2: not like terrified of her anymore. I'm gonna go with
Speaker 2: Emily Gilmore.
Speaker 1: Emily, Emily Gilmore. Right now, we're gonna do rapid fire.
Speaker 1: You ready, put fasten your seatbelt.
Speaker 2: I'm ready.
Speaker 1: Coffee your tea.
Speaker 2: Depends on the time of day. Coffee in the morning,
Speaker 2: team mid day.
Speaker 1: How do you take your coffee?
Speaker 2: Really sugary oat milk, brown, sugar shaking espresso?
Speaker 1: Love it Chiltern or Yale Chilting team Dean Jesster Logan.
Speaker 1: I think we know Emily Richard. I think we know
Speaker 1: that too. Snow Day or Sunny Day and stars Hollow.
Speaker 2: Snow Day until I die, snow Day or leafy Day,
Speaker 2: autumn and winter. Those episodes are always my favorite.
Speaker 1: Right work in suki kitchen or at Michelle's front desk.
Speaker 2: Oh, Michelle's front desk. I'm not a kitchen girl. I
Speaker 2: don't like cooking. No, thank you. I want to talk
Speaker 2: with Michelle. Pop darts or pizza, pizza.
Speaker 1: One word to describe Gilmore girls, Oh.
Speaker 2: Oh, life changing?
Speaker 1: Life changing? Really yeah wow.
Speaker 2: It just like hits your soul in so many different areas.
Speaker 2: It just like it it. Yeah, It electrifies so many
Speaker 2: different things, your brain, your heart, your soul. You start
Speaker 2: thinking about your own life, your own relationships.
Speaker 1: It's just yeah, wow, Luke's Diner, Friday night dinner.
Speaker 2: Luke's Diner.
Speaker 1: I'm yes right. I was nervous.
Speaker 2: Why.
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna because you want to be
Speaker 1: with Emily so much. I thought I'm going to lose
Speaker 1: this one.
Speaker 2: Guess what I'm doing your podcast, not Emily's right now,
Speaker 2: so you won't know if I'm telling the truth.
Speaker 1: Awesome, Stas, It was a blast. Really, you have to
Speaker 1: come back.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I really would love to. This
Speaker 2: was so much fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a blast. It was good. Really seriously,
Speaker 1: thank you and thank you everybody, best fans on the planet.
Speaker 1: Appreciate your downloads and remember where you lead, we will follow.
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