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Speaker 4: You know who's a bad better Drake?
Speaker 1: Remember when Drake came out and said he was betting
Speaker 1: a million dollars I think on the MAVs to win
Speaker 1: the finals, and he was betting a million dollars on
Speaker 1: Edmonton to win the Stanley Cup Final. And I picked
Speaker 1: the Celtics and Florida. I go, I feel really good
Speaker 1: about my bets. Well, Drake, I guess lost three hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars yesterday because he had Argentina losing. So he
Speaker 1: he does bet on a variety of things. So Drake
Speaker 1: of course is you know, betting on Canada. But he
Speaker 1: lost three hundred thousand dollars betting on his country beating
Speaker 1: the defending champs, and he posted an image on Instagram
Speaker 1: that showed his bet would have given him two point
Speaker 1: eight million dollars. But if Canada won, but Argentina going
Speaker 1: to their fourth final in the last five of these events.
Speaker 4: Here, man, I'm going.
Speaker 5: To disagree with you. You can't put a part price on
Speaker 5: Canadian goodwill.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't need to put money on my team,
Speaker 1: my country, just the benefit of winning. You know, he
Speaker 1: was betting on Dallas and Edmonton. Now I get Edmonton
Speaker 1: with Canada Dallas. I don't know, why are you going
Speaker 1: to take Dallas to win the NBA Finals? Now, he
Speaker 1: might look at it and go Floyd Mayweather always post
Speaker 1: when he wins. Now, being a former gambler, you only
Speaker 1: want to talk about the wins. Nobody wants to talk
Speaker 1: about the losses. But you lose far more than you win.
Speaker 1: And it feels like Floyd wins every bed somehow, Drake
Speaker 1: at least posts them, and I do respect that. I
Speaker 1: just don't know if he's a very good gambler. Yes, Martin, I'm.
Speaker 2: Looking at a post, I guess from Argentina's soccer yeah,
Speaker 2: and it's got the Argentina players and on top it
Speaker 2: says not like us, Oh that's me.
Speaker 1: Wows yeah.
Speaker 2: Once again, maybe Kendrick should perform at an Argentina soccer game,
Speaker 2: not like poor Drake.
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Speaker 1: our radio affiliates around the country also chat row operator
Speaker 1: Tyler sitting by taking your phone calls. We spend a
Speaker 1: lot of time talking about a phenom. You know, Cooper
Speaker 1: Flag is seventeen. You're seeing athletes whether they're fourteen, fifteen, sixteen.
Speaker 1: There's an Olympic sprinter from the US. He's going to
Speaker 1: be on the Olympic team. He's sixteen years of age.
Speaker 1: Normally we see this with girls women that you know,
Speaker 1: they mature sooner than you'll see somebody who's playing tennis
Speaker 1: in they're fourteen years of age. Doesn't happen on the
Speaker 1: men's side because you need, you know, more power there
Speaker 1: to be able to survive against you know, guys who
Speaker 1: have been playing for fifteen years. Then you also have
Speaker 1: the athlete at the other end of the spectrum. You
Speaker 1: know Joker, you know Novak Djokovic is playing still high
Speaker 1: level tennis at his age, Lebron at his age, Chris
Speaker 1: Paul is going to be playing for the Spurs. You
Speaker 1: have Tom Brady with what he's done, Aaron Rodgers. So
Speaker 1: you have this wide spectrum of when you start to
Speaker 1: when you finish, and how long your careers can be.
Speaker 1: And the fact that you have you know, Serena Williams
Speaker 1: and Venus Williams against all odds getting out of Compton
Speaker 1: and being able to be, you know, two of the
Speaker 1: great players. One is Serena the greatest player of all time,
Speaker 1: and Venus certainly had a very distinguished career. Tiger Woods
Speaker 1: when he started how young and then you have to
Speaker 1: have that dad who is there to enable you. I mean,
Speaker 1: Tiger didn't have a normal childhood and because his dad
Speaker 1: wanted him to be the greatest golfer in the world,
Speaker 1: and he did become that, but there's always a price.
Speaker 1: Like Michael Jackson, he was going to be the biggest
Speaker 1: singer in pop history and he became that, but at
Speaker 1: what price? And that's where we're talking about the parents
Speaker 1: and the role that you play and encouraging. There's nothing
Speaker 1: better than having a son or daughter who wants to play,
Speaker 1: who loves to play, can't wait to play. Nothing worse
Speaker 1: than dragging your kid to baseball practice and they're, like,
Speaker 1: you know, out there picking dandelions. They do not want
Speaker 1: to be out there, but you want them to be
Speaker 1: the next Mickey Mantle. That's the problem. Kids just want
Speaker 1: to be kids. It's the parents who want the kids
Speaker 1: to be something that maybe they weren't, and that's where
Speaker 1: it gets dangerous.
Speaker 2: Yes, mar Stefan Marberry is a guy I think about
Speaker 2: because he had three older brothers that all played Division
Speaker 2: one basketball and none of them made it to the NBA.
Speaker 2: And if you watch the ninety six draft when he
Speaker 2: gets drafted, he's crying. His entire family's crying, and it
Speaker 2: feels like, so he got game is loosely based off
Speaker 2: of Stefan Marberry because of the family pressure and everything
Speaker 2: that he had on him. And all around Coney, Allen
Speaker 2: and Brooklyn, you knew this is the one. The other
Speaker 2: three they didn't make it, but this is the one.
Speaker 2: He was like the number one, like ranked sixth grader
Speaker 2: at one point, and so you can see that type
Speaker 2: of pressure, you know, get on somebody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I get it. You know, for some families,
Speaker 1: this is your way out. This is you know, we're
Speaker 1: counting on you to get us out to better our lives.
Speaker 1: And the pressure that's on somebody who's sixteen seventeen years
Speaker 1: of age. Friday, July twenty six, the Olympic Games return
Speaker 1: live from Paris on NBC and Peacock Pole. Question from
Speaker 1: hour one, Seaton and what are we gonna do with
Speaker 1: hour two? Hour one? We got up there?
Speaker 6: Which would be worse USA Basketball losing to Canada or France?
Speaker 6: It is a landslide that people do not want to
Speaker 6: lose to Canada at all.
Speaker 1: Okay, who's got better odds to win the gold medal? Now?
Speaker 1: United States prohibited favorite to win the gold medal. Which
Speaker 1: country has the second best odds to win the gold medal?
Speaker 4: Drake Drakes footing three undred thousand? God, France, Seaton, It's
Speaker 4: not France, it's Canada.
Speaker 1: Canada. Yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna let Drake know that if
Speaker 1: he wants to maybe place a bet with me, I'll
Speaker 1: take team USA and he can have Canada. Just said it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna bet one hundred dollars and I'll give
Speaker 1: him his odds, but we'll just do a hundred owners.
Speaker 4: Todd reached out to Drake and see if he'll shutting
Speaker 4: things down for now.
Speaker 1: It's gonna lay low. Yeah, Usa, Canada, then France. Serbia
Speaker 1: is right after France, and then Greece.
Speaker 4: That's it. That's according to DraftKings, all right. Serbia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they got joker. I wonder if they had
Speaker 1: to convince him to play in the Olympics. You wouldn't
Speaker 1: think they would because it's the Olympics. You get to
Speaker 1: play for your country. But it just feels like once
Speaker 1: the season's over, he just probably likes to sit around
Speaker 1: and look at his horses and drink beer. Yes, when
Speaker 1: is Olympics? How long is Olympics? All right, so what's
Speaker 1: the poll question for hour two?
Speaker 6: Seaton people saying I hate to break the James nath
Speaker 6: Smith was a Canadian, so that's good. Okay, Oh no, okay,
Speaker 6: it's coming home.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love that James na Smith when he was, you know,
Speaker 1: putting up the peach basket at Kansas. Yeah, well he
Speaker 1: was Canadian. Yeah, it's actually our game.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 1: Hey, you I take claim. I have no problem with that.
Speaker 1: I love my neighbors to the north. Wonderful people, Yeah,
Speaker 1: wonderful people.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: How about winn a Stanley Cup. What it's our game? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's our game.
Speaker 2: Sunrise, Florida. Yeah, that's where hockey was.
Speaker 1: That's that's where does the great one live? In Sunrise, Florida.
Speaker 1: But you imagine if Waino says, you know, I'm going
Speaker 1: to relocate to Sunrise, Florida, you know, in they you know,
Speaker 1: to be in hockey country.
Speaker 4: All right, that's great, that's great. All right.
Speaker 1: Gus Johnson will join us a little bit later on today.
Speaker 1: The Mavericks introduced Play Thompson yesterday and Clay had this
Speaker 1: to say, leaving Golden State.
Speaker 7: Probably a little disappointed at first, but then as time
Speaker 7: goes on, you have a lot of time to reflect
Speaker 7: and you realize what you did.
Speaker 4: They can't take that away from you.
Speaker 7: As far as the championships or i mean, records are
Speaker 7: meant to be broken, but the impact you have on
Speaker 7: a community and all that that.
Speaker 4: Will forever live.
Speaker 7: And sometimes, you know, breakups are necessary to do us right.
Speaker 8: All right?
Speaker 1: And he picked number thirty one as a tribute to
Speaker 1: our good buddy Reggie Miller. He said he grew up
Speaker 1: watching all that tape of Reggie trying to get open,
Speaker 1: going over screens and you know, kind of catch and
Speaker 1: shoot type of players. So he picked thirty one. Here's
Speaker 1: Chris Paul. He's joining the Spurs.
Speaker 9: I played against him this season, and I tell you
Speaker 9: there's probably no player in the league that everybody in
Speaker 9: the league talks about after the game like him, because
Speaker 9: everybody has their just stuff. Me and Harrison was on
Speaker 9: our flight yesterday just talking about how cool it's going
Speaker 9: to be at this point in our career is to
Speaker 9: get a chance to appreciate him day in and day out,
Speaker 9: you know, So that definitely helped.
Speaker 1: So he's talking about Victor Wembanyama. I could have set
Speaker 1: that up a little better, but Chris Paul, they needed
Speaker 1: us point guard last year with Victor, certainly in the
Speaker 1: first half of the season, he just was out of
Speaker 1: place on the court. And a great point guard, a
Speaker 1: good point guard, a veteran point guard, can position you
Speaker 1: for success a little bit more. And Chris is going
Speaker 1: to get plenty of playing time there and he's going
Speaker 1: to have to be there in a mentorship role for
Speaker 1: Victor Wembanyama. That kind of interesting. Never want a title.
Speaker 1: But you know when you talk about people who never
Speaker 1: players who never want a title, you'll always bring up
Speaker 1: Barkley Malone in Stockton. Well, Chris Paul is a first
Speaker 1: batl Hall of Famer. I can't help but think if
Speaker 1: the commissioner had not voided that trade from the Pelicans
Speaker 1: from New Orleans to the Lakers, then he would have
Speaker 1: had a title or two. But that's when the NBA
Speaker 1: took ownership of, you know, the New Orleans franchise, and
Speaker 1: the commissioner, David Stern said, I'm.
Speaker 4: Not going to do that.
Speaker 1: He was worried about what was going to happen to
Speaker 1: New Orleans franchise if you get rid of Chris Paul
Speaker 1: competitive balance and you know, was this a trade that
Speaker 1: was not going to benefit New Orleans? And so because
Speaker 1: the NBA owned or took ownership, Chris Paul never got
Speaker 1: to go to Los Angeles. Had a lot of opportunities,
Speaker 1: played for really good teams. But Chris Paul will probably
Speaker 1: end his career without winning a championship.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Poll That was twenty eleven, right after the lockout. It
Speaker 5: was a three way deal between the Lakers, Hornets, and
Speaker 5: Houston Rockets LA agreed to part ways of Pau Gasol
Speaker 5: lamar Odom exchange for the twenty six year old Chris
Speaker 5: Paul Wow letting Paul gassall goal at that that.
Speaker 4: Meant a tough one.
Speaker 5: Back then he was pretty he was pretty good.
Speaker 4: I mean yeah.
Speaker 5: But the NBA, David Stern vetoed it. There's miscommunications about it.
Speaker 5: They said Genie bus was very upset, trot how to
Speaker 5: file a protest and didn't work.
Speaker 4: Chris Paul should sue the NBA. Maybe it's too late.
Speaker 1: I don't know the statute of limitations, but it'd be
Speaker 1: like you costed me not winning a championship he had.
Speaker 6: That one, his whole legacy would be completely different, would
Speaker 6: it If he had one?
Speaker 1: He might not just have one. Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: he's singled out now, but I don't know where he
Speaker 1: ranks of great point guards of all time. His name
Speaker 1: doesn't come up with of all time. But he's a
Speaker 1: first ballon Hall of Famer because if you start at
Speaker 1: the point guard, because and you know, let's take magic
Speaker 1: out of this. But is Chris Paul better than Steve Nash?
Speaker 1: Is Chris Paul equal to Isaiah Is he equal to
Speaker 1: John Stockton?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 4: Is he allan Ivers?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Where is Chris Paul and the pantheon of point guards here?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: Mark, So you know what I'm gonna take the Vinny
Speaker 2: goodwill approach them at their peak? Who would you take?
Speaker 2: Would you take? Oh? Wait, Chris Paul, would you take five?
Speaker 2: Steve Nash?
Speaker 4: Steve Nash.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Chris Paul because he took a really
Speaker 2: good New Orleans team deep into the playoffs one year
Speaker 2: and it was just like him and guys like Marcus Thornton.
Speaker 4: You have a Nash won the MVP.
Speaker 2: Chris Paul should have won MVP, but he didn't.
Speaker 4: No, but Steve Nash did. He won two.
Speaker 1: Now granted he only deserved one, Shack deserved the other one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: at his peak? Okay Stockton or Chris Paul, I guess
Speaker 1: they're pretty similar. It just Stockedon did the same thing
Speaker 1: every year, in the same numbers, for the same thing.
Speaker 1: Everybody knew exactly what he was going to do, and
Speaker 1: he still did it. And you know he'd give you
Speaker 1: what eighteen and fourteen. I mean, he did that an
Speaker 1: entire career. What hurts Chris Paul is he bounced around
Speaker 1: to so many teams. But I don't I mean, he's
Speaker 1: not Isaiah Who. I mean, I don't know where is
Speaker 1: he a? He top ten point guard of all times?
Speaker 10: Yes?
Speaker 1: Is that fair?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to sell him short. I just
Speaker 1: because he didn't win a title. It just what bothers me.
Speaker 1: More is he kept bouncing around. Great players don't bounce
Speaker 1: around like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: More, you know what, because I'm an NBA junkie, I
Speaker 2: think wherever he went he made the team better automatically.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll give you that.
Speaker 2: Like he had Oklahoma City in the playoffs, but it
Speaker 2: was just him and Marcus Thorton. I don't know.
Speaker 1: You're right about okay, see because I remember, like, man,
Speaker 1: they are a lot better than they should be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul Chris Paul led.
Speaker 5: The league and assists five times. He actually led the
Speaker 5: league in steels six times. But you know what I
Speaker 5: think may hurt him. His style play is unspectacular. It's
Speaker 5: not above the room in any way. It's meandering, it's efficient.
Speaker 5: It's almost a Tim Duncan like as a point guard,
Speaker 5: where it's it's an efficient it's undefendable. But if you
Speaker 5: put a highlight team together, it's not gonna be really
Speaker 5: fun to watch.
Speaker 1: I think he had more highlights at Wake Forest when
Speaker 1: he played in college than in the NBA. Like he
Speaker 1: he was always like fifteen footer like there. There wasn't
Speaker 1: anything where he went mound you see that. And he
Speaker 1: he's probably known more for maybe some cheap shots that
Speaker 1: he's had in his career. Yeah, when you're doing lugnuts,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know that's not good. Yeah.
Speaker 6: But if he's allowed to go to the Lakers in
Speaker 6: twenty eleven, Yeah, does he end up on you know,
Speaker 6: all those other teams? Does he end up in Houston,
Speaker 6: Oklahoma City, Phoenix, Golden State.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know him. It's kind of crazy that that happened.
Speaker 6: Yes, that David Stearns, Yes, was in charge of a team,
Speaker 6: and I was like, uh no, I say no to
Speaker 6: this tree.
Speaker 1: Yes, but his job was to protect New Orleans. He
Speaker 1: had to protect He did the right thing from the
Speaker 1: standpoint of protecting the team that needed protection instead of going, hey,
Speaker 1: let's let the Lakers get another great player. So he
Speaker 1: went against conventional wisdom of making your league better by
Speaker 1: having a better team.
Speaker 4: Than, you know, keeping New Orleans a float.
Speaker 1: There if they still let him leave, Yeah, eventually, I
Speaker 1: just you know, and I think it went right. Instead
Speaker 1: of going to the Lakers, he went to the Clippers. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: once again, statute of limitations. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: can sue the estate of the late Commissioner David Stern.
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Speaker 8: Hey, good morning guys. So I got a story from
Speaker 8: a parents' perspective where if your child becomes good through AAU,
Speaker 8: gets to high school, gets offers, and then my son
Speaker 8: walked away from basketball he was burnt out or didn't
Speaker 8: want to do it anymore, or I didn't handle it well.
Speaker 8: Then he went in to play in the spring volleyball.
Speaker 8: So now he just graduated. He's going to go to
Speaker 8: college and play volleyball. But imagine the stress of the
Speaker 8: depression that parents go through when your kid does well.
Speaker 8: It's like, Okay, college is paid for, we don't have
Speaker 8: to worry about it. Then they just walk away like
Speaker 8: the not that you want it for yourself, but just
Speaker 8: the Midt Tom side of parents who've always done it's
Speaker 8: since third grade, but not thinking about the child's side,
Speaker 8: and like, you've got it made, this is paid for.
Speaker 8: What do you mean you're walking away? But then he
Speaker 8: was able to do something else and do even better
Speaker 8: at it. So I probably just something for parents to
Speaker 8: keep in mind. There's other things out there, other.
Speaker 1: Sports well, and that's the tricky part that we all
Speaker 1: think all he could be or she could be the
Speaker 1: next well probably not, but are they doing something.
Speaker 4: That they real love, they enjoy.
Speaker 1: That's that's the great part of parenting, when your son
Speaker 1: or daughter is dragging you, not the other way around.
Speaker 1: My son infamously was on the campus of a university
Speaker 1: that had a very good crew team, and my son
Speaker 1: is good size. He's walking on campus with a buddy.
Speaker 1: The crew coach comes out and says, uh, are you
Speaker 1: going to school here, and he goes, no, no, I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about it. He goes, well, we'd love for you
Speaker 1: to try out for the crew team, and my son
Speaker 1: says to the crew coach, Oh, I don't want to
Speaker 1: do anything in college where I have to get up early.
Speaker 1: So he relays his story to my wife and I
Speaker 1: and I go, he goes, no, Dan, why would I
Speaker 1: want to do that? You know how they kind of
Speaker 1: get up at five in the morning. I go, if
Speaker 1: I wasn't paying for your school, and I said, you
Speaker 1: had to do that and you could get a scholarship,
Speaker 1: and he goes, yeah, probably, but he didn't want to
Speaker 1: do something where if he did it well enough, he'd have.
Speaker 4: To do it in college.
Speaker 2: I going, oh my god.
Speaker 1: So happened on two different campuses where they saw him,
Speaker 1: and they both one was USC and one was a
Speaker 1: school on the East Coast, and the crew coach said
Speaker 1: to him, Hey, if you come here, we want you
Speaker 1: to be on the crew team. He's like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. That's too much work.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, what have we done?
Speaker 4: What have we done? We failed? He could have been
Speaker 4: in the Olympics.
Speaker 1: But you do you live vicariously. I remember I played
Speaker 1: catch with my son. It's one of the more heartbreaking
Speaker 1: moments I ever had as a parent. And he just
Speaker 1: wasn't an athlete. He tried, he tried really hard, and
Speaker 1: I remember my wife was watching this we're outside playing
Speaker 1: catch and we came in and she goes, he's not you,
Speaker 1: and I was like, wow, it just hit me so hard.
Speaker 4: I didn't see it.
Speaker 1: And that's why I tell parents, I've lived this, I've
Speaker 1: made those mistakes. He can't be or she can't be
Speaker 1: what you want them to be. And I wanted him
Speaker 1: to be a baseball player. And my wife saw it
Speaker 1: clearly and she said he's not you. And she said
Speaker 1: enjoy what he enjoys. And they changed my relationship. But
Speaker 1: just letting you know, I wanted him to be a
Speaker 1: baseball player. I would spend hours whatever, basketball player, whatever.
Speaker 1: That's just not who he was. That's not who he is.
Speaker 1: But he became something far greater than what I was
Speaker 1: hoping he would be. And that is you know, a person,
Speaker 1: a husband, a father, Those are the things that you
Speaker 1: treat or that you teach that really lasts the rest
Speaker 1: of their lives. Not you know what, he can hit
Speaker 1: the cutoff guy. You know he's not bad. You know
Speaker 1: he can do a hit and run like it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter in the moment. It matters so much to you
Speaker 1: because he go up to the plate, two out's strikeout,
Speaker 1: and then you'd be like you just want to hide,
Speaker 1: but you know what, that's your son. It's like, all right,
Speaker 1: come on, no, you don't want to be Oh god,
Speaker 1: he's going to make it out.
Speaker 4: It hurts.
Speaker 1: It hurts your kids make you have the highest to
Speaker 1: high's lowest lows. But when I'm trying to make my
Speaker 1: son into a baseball player and my wife said, he's
Speaker 1: not you, it's the best piece of advice she ever
Speaker 1: gave me with him. Thank god. I listened Pat in Ohio. Hi, Pat,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Dan, Along those lines of parent and child. The Jimmy
Speaker 3: Pearsaw story is one that I can. Back in the sixties,
Speaker 3: he played for the Cleveland Indens. I used to listen
Speaker 3: to the Indians on the radio and I remember one
Speaker 3: time him coming up to bat against I know it
Speaker 3: was Detroit, but he wore a football helmet and they
Speaker 3: were like throwing at him and stuff like that. But
Speaker 3: then the movie came out, and this is for any
Speaker 3: of you. This is a movie. I mean, I know
Speaker 3: it's in black and white, but it's Anthony Perkins and
Speaker 3: Carl Maldon and I think it was called Fear Strikes Out. Yep,
Speaker 3: watch it even though, if you got to watch black
Speaker 3: and white, watch the thing because it's a real teacher.
Speaker 1: And I think Jimmy Pearsaw he hit a home run
Speaker 1: and he ran around the bases backwards. Might have been
Speaker 1: his one hundredth home run. I'm short on details here,
Speaker 1: but Jimmy Pearsaw was a interesting person, but I think
Speaker 1: he ran around the bases after hitting the home run,
Speaker 1: he ran around backwards. Let that one sink in for
Speaker 1: a little bit. Rodney and Michigan, Hy, rod what's on
Speaker 1: your mind today?
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 10: How you doing goodbute? So the whole conversation about Canadian basketball,
Speaker 10: I just wanted to bring up the twenty nineteen Toronto
Speaker 10: Raptors because I'm always kind of amazed that the title
Speaker 10: is just kind of forgotten. And the story of that
Speaker 10: final was Kevin Durant. You know, I saw pictures of
Speaker 10: him sarin his achilles over and over and over in
Speaker 10: the close up, and that's what you know, that's what
Speaker 10: everyone remembers. But like that would be a huge bomb.
Speaker 4: Yes it was, Yes it was, and people do remember.
Speaker 1: Oh that was the finals where Durant got hurt, and
Speaker 1: of course Toronto ended up winning the NBA championship. But
Speaker 1: you're right, it is forgotten. That's one of those Oh
Speaker 1: that's right, all they wanted that year, that's right. I
Speaker 1: was also wondering about this with Klay Thompson, first BALLL
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. He was never the man, never had
Speaker 1: to be the man. And if Clay went over for ten,
Speaker 1: nobody was like, oh my god, I'm you know, we're
Speaker 1: going to ask him questions and interrogate him. It'd be like, h,
Speaker 1: he didn't hit a shot, but they won. If Steph
Speaker 1: did that or Draymond did something stupid, then you would
Speaker 1: be asking them questions.
Speaker 4: But Clay was able. He came out of college.
Speaker 1: Nobody really knew who he was other than they knew
Speaker 1: his dad former NBA player and Laker announce it. So
Speaker 1: he gets to the right place at the right time,
Speaker 1: and somehow it all works out, and then you win
Speaker 1: four titles, a very good two way player, All Star,
Speaker 1: one of the great shooters in the history of the game.
Speaker 1: And now he's going to go to Dallas. It'll be
Speaker 1: forever known unless he wins a title in Dallas, it'll
Speaker 1: be just a footnote what he did at Golden State.
Speaker 1: But this is where when you talk to parents, or
Speaker 1: even when you're talking to players when they're first starting out.
Speaker 1: Find a play that you love playing in, a system
Speaker 1: you love playing with players you love playing with, and
Speaker 1: makes it far more enjoyable. If you're watching the series Clipped,
Speaker 1: you know Chris Paul, Blake Griffin. They didn't like each other.
Speaker 1: Imagine going to work every day. You're on the floor
Speaker 1: every day and you don't like each other. But you
Speaker 1: had Steph Clay Draymont for a long time. They respected
Speaker 1: each other, they knew their roles, and you start to wonder,
Speaker 1: would you rather have the standalone? If I said you
Speaker 1: could have Klay Thompson's career or Alan Iverson's career, Alan
Speaker 1: Iverson one of the greats Standalone dragged a team to
Speaker 1: the NBA Finals MVP. Or would you rather be Klay
Speaker 1: Thompson Seaton. I know you're a huge Alan Iverson fan. Man.
Speaker 1: That's weird because it's like Alan Iverson's an icon.
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, he's he has like all of the things
Speaker 6: that Klay Thompson will never have. Yes, And Klay Thompson
Speaker 6: has other things that Allen Iverson will never have.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 6: Sheepers, creepers. I gotta take money out of it too. Yes,
Speaker 6: because Clay, this is just career. This is just what
Speaker 6: you accomplished basketball. Why is not what you made? I
Speaker 6: don't know if the joy of that, like the pain
Speaker 6: of losing, is much greater than the joy of winning.
Speaker 6: If I'm winning is great. It's tough to not take
Speaker 6: Clay and the run that they've had. I mean, you're
Speaker 6: part of a dynasty, even if you're fourth in line.
Speaker 1: I mean, Clay's Name's not coming up top seventy five players.
Speaker 4: Alan Iverson's name is definitely.
Speaker 1: Yes, I would take Klay Thompson's career because he's one
Speaker 1: of the greatest shooters. He was an integral part in
Speaker 1: winning championships. And not that this is the last dynasty
Speaker 1: in basketball, but it is one of the dynasties that
Speaker 1: we will talk about for a long time.
Speaker 4: Marvin, what about you, I'm going Clay, Okay, Paulie.
Speaker 2: It's a tough one.
Speaker 5: By throwing out Iverson's that's a high end name you're
Speaker 5: giving out there. Klay Thompson was partially responsible for four titles.
Speaker 5: He had some tough days. Like you said, six time
Speaker 5: All Star.
Speaker 4: Night, let's go fritzy.
Speaker 2: My first thought was there.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm saying to Paulie. He was doing a
Speaker 1: fret sea there Klay Thompson.
Speaker 4: Alan Iverson, Clay Thompson. Okay, Todd.
Speaker 12: My first thought was, you go with the rings, But
Speaker 12: Alan Iverson when you hear the answer and he walks again,
Speaker 12: I do the walking into a room and changing the
Speaker 12: culture of the sport on and off the court, and
Speaker 12: you add up all those things. Alan Iverson, to me,
Speaker 12: is just a bigger deal even without the rings, like
Speaker 12: Marino is a huge deal without a Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: Seaton, right.
Speaker 6: Like I love the idea of being Alan Iverson and
Speaker 6: being a cultural force. Okay, right, I love that, But
Speaker 6: that's all sort of outward facing, right, the internal torture
Speaker 6: of thinking about how many times I tried to climb
Speaker 6: that hill and never could. I could never climb the hill,
Speaker 6: not one time. Clay did it four times. I was
Speaker 6: never able to climb it, just that one time I
Speaker 6: came close. But I was never able to climb that hill.
Speaker 6: That would drive me crazy for the rest of my life.
Speaker 4: Clay or Russell.
Speaker 1: Westbrook, Clay Clay.
Speaker 4: Clay or James Harden Clay.
Speaker 2: So you need a high end person to make this
Speaker 2: a real discussion.
Speaker 1: I'm just going by MVPs recent MVPs Clay or Vince.
Speaker 2: Carter Canada, Weiss.
Speaker 1: Frederick von Weiss atol Weiss, it's Clay Thompson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go Clay.
Speaker 12: It's Clay in an honest moment, I wonder maybe you're
Speaker 12: not so honest moment. The way to rationalize for a
Speaker 12: great player that hasn't won rings, they could always somehow
Speaker 12: survive all the disappointment by saying, if I had a
Speaker 12: I had a group of guys around me, it's not
Speaker 12: an individual sport like I wonder. And obviously Marino had
Speaker 12: great receivers and things like that, but I wonder if
Speaker 12: they're like, you know, I didn't win any championships, but
Speaker 12: you know, the management could have gotten me some better
Speaker 12: guys to help us get over the top.
Speaker 1: I don't think that keeps you going the rest of
Speaker 1: your life. I don't think that works with Marino where
Speaker 1: he's going. You know, they'd just given me a better
Speaker 1: running game. He had a Hall of Fame coach, he
Speaker 1: had free reign to do whatever he want. That offense
Speaker 1: was just one dimensional, and he got to one Super
Speaker 1: Bowl and got blown out by Joe Montana. But it
Speaker 1: let's keep it to basketball here and Clay Thompson winning
Speaker 1: titles I think, and being a very important, you know
Speaker 1: person in winning those titles. It's not like, oh, you
Speaker 1: were on those teams. It's you knew that Clay was
Speaker 1: on those teams.
Speaker 4: Yeh.
Speaker 1: See Chris throwing out big Shot Bob or Clay. Ooh Clay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Clay too. I mean big shot Bob
Speaker 1: or he's got more titles. Clay was more important in
Speaker 1: the day to day of winning those types. However, however,
Speaker 1: he's big Shot Bob.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's a nice nickname.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he earned it. I'd be just cool ast
Speaker 1: Clay though, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yes, And Clay's a splash brother. Like so they have
Speaker 2: an iconic name. They are iconic team. So like he
Speaker 2: basically he's James Worthy. Like I could have went somewhere
Speaker 2: else and scored twenty eight to night and been an
Speaker 2: All Star ten times?
Speaker 1: Okay, would you rather be James Worthy's career or Klay
Speaker 1: Thompson's career?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 2: He was showtime agoing James Worthy?
Speaker 6: Okay consistently contributes Clay or big Shot Bob.
Speaker 4: Who would you rather be?
Speaker 2: Big game, James.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but James.
Speaker 1: If James Worthy ends up going to Cleveland instead of
Speaker 1: the Lakers, he's Alex English. He'll average twenty seven a
Speaker 1: night for his career and have twenty seven thousand points,
Speaker 1: but probably nothing to show for it.
Speaker 2: He'd be a snap your finger guy, who is my
Speaker 2: man with the goggles?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he'd be that James Worthy.
Speaker 1: But with you know, the Lakers, that's once again you're
Speaker 1: part of something. If Michael Cooper plays for somebody else,
Speaker 1: he's just somebody else who's playing for a team where
Speaker 1: you go, Ah, that guys, he's pretty active defensively, he
Speaker 1: goes to the Lakers. Now you got to guard Larry Bird.
Speaker 1: Now it's different Clay Thompson's career or Dennis Rodman's career,
Speaker 1: Paulie Rodman, m m Okay, Todd, Clay, Seaton, Rodman, Marvin Clay.
Speaker 1: You got to take everything with Dennis. Yeah, no, I'm
Speaker 1: exactly on the floor on the floor. I would take Clay.
Speaker 1: I would take Clay great, one of the great shooters
Speaker 1: of old time, four titles. Rodman was with the Pistons.
Speaker 1: But that was probably kind of awesome. And then he
Speaker 1: was like he was so important to the Michael Jordan
Speaker 1: Ara Bulls that he was allowed to leave to go
Speaker 1: to Vegas for a little while to blow off some
Speaker 1: steam and then I'll be back later. That's how much
Speaker 1: they were, like, God, we need this guy. It's kind
Speaker 1: of awesome, yes, Todd, But at some point.
Speaker 12: When you become like that circus act, even if you're
Speaker 12: the greatest rebounder in the history of the sport and
Speaker 12: you've got the rings and all that, it still makes
Speaker 12: me hesitating.
Speaker 1: He got he got notoriety for rebounding. That's that's impossible.
Speaker 1: People came to watch him rebound five titles. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean there was a lot to him.
Speaker 2: Yes, Mark Robin is the top seventy five guy and
Speaker 2: Clay is not. So that shows you what you know
Speaker 2: his peers think of those guys.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Paul, what's fascinting about Dennis Robin. He wasn't respected
Speaker 5: when he was playing. He made two All Star teams.
Speaker 5: He led the league in rebounds eight years in a
Speaker 5: row and made two All Star teams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, criminal, All right, let me take a break. More
Speaker 1: phone calls coming up, and Gus Johnson will join us
Speaker 1: next hour. Back after this, be sure to catch the
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Speaker 1: this Saturday that I'm going to tell you about. It
Speaker 1: will be one of the greatest days in college football history.
Speaker 1: October twelfth. Saturday, October twelfth. Here's the lineup of games
Speaker 1: Ole Miss LSU, Florida, Tennessee, Ohio State, Oregon, Penn State,
Speaker 1: USC Oklahoma, Texas, all on the same day. Mark your
Speaker 1: calendar plan accordingly, Saturday, October twelfth.
Speaker 4: That's pretty good, Yes, tod Now why do they do that?
Speaker 12: I got it if I was just saying just a
Speaker 12: coincidence that it happened like that, because there are.
Speaker 1: A week only here. How about this novel approach for
Speaker 1: ratings and money? Yeah, but there are.
Speaker 12: Weeks in college football where like, ah, it's one of
Speaker 12: those weeks.
Speaker 2: Well, I forget, Yeah, that's off the calendar. I look
Speaker 2: forward to next Saturday because there's.
Speaker 1: Probably but I would just enjoy it, Like why would
Speaker 1: you find the negative in that?
Speaker 12: My point is mix it up throughout the year so
Speaker 12: that there's always some juicy games every week. We have
Speaker 12: those weeks where it's like nothing really to talk about there.
Speaker 12: We're two weeks from now, there's nine games on top
Speaker 12: of each other.
Speaker 1: But I don't think these conferences go, hey, let's make
Speaker 1: sure that we have this game, because we got to
Speaker 1: worry about the SEC or the ACC or the Big
Speaker 1: twelve competing with us.
Speaker 12: It's just unfortunate for the fans where there's weeks where
Speaker 12: you can kind of skip the week almost in competably.
Speaker 4: Take it as a positive. And some of these games
Speaker 4: are on top.
Speaker 2: Of each other.
Speaker 7: Came and watched that.
Speaker 2: Some of them you got to pick one or the other.
Speaker 1: Only you could find the negative and what I think
Speaker 1: will be the greatest college Saturday this upcoming season.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 5: Also, these college football games are planned years in advance.
Speaker 5: Weekends are playing years in advance. They don't mix and
Speaker 5: match them four months before the season like the NFL does.
Speaker 1: Oh here's one. I had a listener. Roberts says, what
Speaker 1: about Klay Thompson or Dwayne Wade. Dwayne Wade or Klay Thompson.
Speaker 1: I feel slighted for Dwayne Wade right there.
Speaker 4: Okay, Dwayne Wade was the guy. Okay, well until Lebron
Speaker 4: came to town.
Speaker 6: He was the guy when Shack came to town. Oh yeah,
Speaker 6: that's pretty good, but that was back in Shack. Yeah,
Speaker 6: but he had both of those errors.
Speaker 4: Back in Shack.
Speaker 5: If you had have dropped that years ago that it
Speaker 5: caught on.
Speaker 1: That could be a single, Shack's new single, gentlemen, Chack.
Speaker 4: Here is back end show. Oh no, let's let me
Speaker 4: threw that out there.
Speaker 1: I noticed that the Gladiator two is coming out, and
Speaker 1: I wondered when was Gladiator one the original? And it
Speaker 1: was nineteen ninety, so that's twenty four years. Russell Crowe
Speaker 1: won an Academy Award for that, I believe. But you
Speaker 1: start to see, like Top Gun, how many years was
Speaker 1: that in between the original and the sequel. It's that
Speaker 1: thirty thirty three years, maybe longer. Dumb and Dumber twenty
Speaker 1: year gap, Tron the sequel twenty eight years, Mad Max
Speaker 1: twenty nine years, Blade Runner thirty five years, Ghostbuster full
Speaker 1: reboot twenty seven years after Ghostbusters two. So you're starting
Speaker 1: to see like these equals where it isn't Freaky Friday.
Speaker 1: Aren't they doing another one with the Jamie Lee Curtis.
Speaker 5: But reboot and sequels different things. Hmmm, you know, like
Speaker 5: The Hustler and then The Color of Money. That is
Speaker 5: a sequel because Paul Newman plays the same character in both.
Speaker 5: It's not a redo of the original script.
Speaker 1: So a soft sequel or a reboot are are they similar?
Speaker 6: And it has to be what we're talking about has
Speaker 6: to be going from the first one to the second one.
Speaker 6: It can't be a time between like Godfather two and
Speaker 6: three or three and four, where there was many many years,
Speaker 6: but that was like a third or fourth and but.
Speaker 1: You get to take advantage of those. Let's say you
Speaker 1: watched Gladiator in nineteen ninety. Now you're going to be
Speaker 1: watching it and then your kids might be watching that.
Speaker 1: That you'll get an opportunity to get two bites of
Speaker 1: the apple with these sequels because top gun people wanted
Speaker 1: to see, alright, what's Tom Cruise going to do with this?
Speaker 1: And then you found that there were a lot of
Speaker 1: younger audience members who didn't see the original and then
Speaker 1: got to see that and it's, you know, pretty spectacular.
Speaker 1: And then you have, you know, some younger actors in there.
Speaker 1: Glenn Powell is a star now he's in there. But
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise doing what he did, but it feels like
Speaker 1: these sequels are spread out, you know, twenty twenty five years.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Poem Wall Street was made in nineteen eighty seven, hugely successful.
Speaker 5: They I read a little about it. They wanted us
Speaker 5: Oliver ston't to do a sequel. He said, no way, never,
Speaker 5: it's too iconic. And then another group of people did
Speaker 5: it years later, and they just inserted Charlie Sheenan for
Speaker 5: a scene, but they brought back Michael Douglas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then who was the actor, Shia Labouf, you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: But the Top Gun sequel Maverick. It was also I
Speaker 5: think it was PG or PG thirteen. They didn't have
Speaker 5: it made it very friendly to bring in like nine
Speaker 5: year olds.
Speaker 4: Well, visually it's stimulating.
Speaker 1: Two when you're gonna go to the big, big theater
Speaker 1: and watch that, it's pretty impressive there.
Speaker 5: The Hustler in nineteen sixty one with Paul Newman and
Speaker 5: Jackie Gleason. Years later, The Color of Money Tom Cruise
Speaker 5: and Paul Newman nineteen eighty six, both nominated.
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