WEBVTT - Hour 2 - Klay Thompson's Legacy

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio. It's our two on this Wednesday. Morale is

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<v Speaker 1>high because I just had one of the brg's picture

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<v Speaker 1>deray order breakfast burrito's. Yes, yes, no, nobody. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought morale it was kind of wavering a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to pick up the spirits here. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have breakfast burritos here. Who has it better

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<v Speaker 1>than we do?

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody?

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<v Speaker 3>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Eight seven to seven three DP show email address Dpadanpatrick

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<v Speaker 4>You know who's a bad better Drake?

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<v Speaker 1>Remember when Drake came out and said he was betting

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<v Speaker 1>a million dollars I think on the MAVs to win

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<v Speaker 1>the finals, and he was betting a million dollars on

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<v Speaker 1>Edmonton to win the Stanley Cup Final. And I picked

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<v Speaker 1>the Celtics and Florida. I go, I feel really good

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<v Speaker 1>about my bets. Well, Drake, I guess lost three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars yesterday because he had Argentina losing. So he

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<v Speaker 1>he does bet on a variety of things. So Drake

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<v Speaker 1>of course is you know, betting on Canada. But he

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<v Speaker 1>lost three hundred thousand dollars betting on his country beating

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<v Speaker 1>the defending champs, and he posted an image on Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>that showed his bet would have given him two point

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<v Speaker 1>eight million dollars. But if Canada won, but Argentina going

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<v Speaker 1>to their fourth final in the last five of these events.

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<v Speaker 4>Here, man, I'm going.

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<v Speaker 5>To disagree with you. You can't put a part price on

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<v Speaker 5>Canadian goodwill.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I don't need to put money on my team,

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<v Speaker 1>my country, just the benefit of winning. You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>was betting on Dallas and Edmonton. Now I get Edmonton

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<v Speaker 1>with Canada Dallas. I don't know, why are you going

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<v Speaker 1>to take Dallas to win the NBA Finals? Now, he

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<v Speaker 1>might look at it and go Floyd Mayweather always post

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<v Speaker 1>when he wins. Now, being a former gambler, you only

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about the wins. Nobody wants to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the losses. But you lose far more than you win.

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<v Speaker 1>And it feels like Floyd wins every bed somehow, Drake

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<v Speaker 1>at least posts them, and I do respect that. I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't know if he's a very good gambler. Yes, Martin, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Looking at a post, I guess from Argentina's soccer yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's got the Argentina players and on top it

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<v Speaker 2>says not like us, Oh that's me.

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<v Speaker 1>Wows yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Once again, maybe Kendrick should perform at an Argentina soccer game,

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<v Speaker 2>not like poor Drake.

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<v Speaker 1>Dang all right the aged seven to seven three DP

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<v Speaker 1>our radio affiliates around the country also chat row operator

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler sitting by taking your phone calls. We spend a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time talking about a phenom. You know, Cooper

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<v Speaker 1>Flag is seventeen. You're seeing athletes whether they're fourteen, fifteen, sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>There's an Olympic sprinter from the US. He's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be on the Olympic team. He's sixteen years of age.

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<v Speaker 1>Normally we see this with girls women that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they mature sooner than you'll see somebody who's playing tennis

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<v Speaker 1>in they're fourteen years of age. Doesn't happen on the

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<v Speaker 1>men's side because you need, you know, more power there

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to survive against you know, guys who

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<v Speaker 1>have been playing for fifteen years. Then you also have

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<v Speaker 1>the athlete at the other end of the spectrum. You

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<v Speaker 1>know Joker, you know Novak Djokovic is playing still high

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<v Speaker 1>level tennis at his age, Lebron at his age, Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Paul is going to be playing for the Spurs. You

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<v Speaker 1>have Tom Brady with what he's done, Aaron Rodgers. So

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<v Speaker 1>you have this wide spectrum of when you start to

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<v Speaker 1>when you finish, and how long your careers can be.

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<v Speaker 1>And the fact that you have you know, Serena Williams

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<v Speaker 1>and Venus Williams against all odds getting out of Compton

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<v Speaker 1>and being able to be, you know, two of the

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<v Speaker 1>great players. One is Serena the greatest player of all time,

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<v Speaker 1>and Venus certainly had a very distinguished career. Tiger Woods

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<v Speaker 1>when he started how young and then you have to

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<v Speaker 1>have that dad who is there to enable you. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Tiger didn't have a normal childhood and because his dad

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<v Speaker 1>wanted him to be the greatest golfer in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and he did become that, but there's always a price.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Michael Jackson, he was going to be the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>singer in pop history and he became that, but at

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<v Speaker 1>what price? And that's where we're talking about the parents

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<v Speaker 1>and the role that you play and encouraging. There's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>better than having a son or daughter who wants to play,

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<v Speaker 1>who loves to play, can't wait to play. Nothing worse

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<v Speaker 1>than dragging your kid to baseball practice and they're, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, out there picking dandelions. They do not want

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<v Speaker 1>to be out there, but you want them to be

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<v Speaker 1>the next Mickey Mantle. That's the problem. Kids just want

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<v Speaker 1>to be kids. It's the parents who want the kids

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<v Speaker 1>to be something that maybe they weren't, and that's where

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<v Speaker 1>it gets dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, mar Stefan Marberry is a guy I think about

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<v Speaker 2>because he had three older brothers that all played Division

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<v Speaker 2>one basketball and none of them made it to the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you watch the ninety six draft when he

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<v Speaker 2>gets drafted, he's crying. His entire family's crying, and it

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<v Speaker 2>feels like, so he got game is loosely based off

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<v Speaker 2>of Stefan Marberry because of the family pressure and everything

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<v Speaker 2>that he had on him. And all around Coney, Allen

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<v Speaker 2>and Brooklyn, you knew this is the one. The other

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<v Speaker 2>three they didn't make it, but this is the one.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like the number one, like ranked sixth grader

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<v Speaker 2>at one point, and so you can see that type

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<v Speaker 2>of pressure, you know, get on somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I get it. You know, for some families,

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<v Speaker 1>this is your way out. This is you know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>counting on you to get us out to better our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>And the pressure that's on somebody who's sixteen seventeen years

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<v Speaker 1>of age. Friday, July twenty six, the Olympic Games return

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<v Speaker 1>live from Paris on NBC and Peacock Pole. Question from

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<v Speaker 1>hour one, Seaton and what are we gonna do with

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<v Speaker 1>hour two? Hour one? We got up there?

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<v Speaker 6>Which would be worse USA Basketball losing to Canada or France?

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<v Speaker 6>It is a landslide that people do not want to

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<v Speaker 6>lose to Canada at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, who's got better odds to win the gold medal? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>United States prohibited favorite to win the gold medal. Which

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<v Speaker 1>country has the second best odds to win the gold medal?

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<v Speaker 4>Drake Drakes footing three undred thousand? God, France, Seaton, It's

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<v Speaker 4>not France, it's Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>Canada. Yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna let Drake know that if

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to maybe place a bet with me, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>take team USA and he can have Canada. Just said it, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna bet one hundred dollars and I'll give

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<v Speaker 1>him his odds, but we'll just do a hundred owners.

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<v Speaker 4>Todd reached out to Drake and see if he'll shutting

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<v Speaker 4>things down for now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna lay low. Yeah, Usa, Canada, then France. Serbia

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<v Speaker 1>is right after France, and then Greece.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it. That's according to DraftKings, all right. Serbia.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well they got joker. I wonder if they had

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<v Speaker 1>to convince him to play in the Olympics. You wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>think they would because it's the Olympics. You get to

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<v Speaker 1>play for your country. But it just feels like once

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<v Speaker 1>the season's over, he just probably likes to sit around

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<v Speaker 1>and look at his horses and drink beer. Yes, when

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<v Speaker 1>is Olympics? How long is Olympics? All right, so what's

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<v Speaker 1>the poll question for hour two?

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<v Speaker 6>Seaton people saying I hate to break the James nath

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<v Speaker 6>Smith was a Canadian, so that's good. Okay, Oh no, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>it's coming home.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that James na Smith when he was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>putting up the peach basket at Kansas. Yeah, well he

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<v Speaker 1>was Canadian. Yeah, it's actually our game.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you I take claim. I have no problem with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love my neighbors to the north. Wonderful people, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful people.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>How about winn a Stanley Cup. What it's our game? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's our game.

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<v Speaker 2>Sunrise, Florida. Yeah, that's where hockey was.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's where does the great one live? In Sunrise, Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>But you imagine if Waino says, you know, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to relocate to Sunrise, Florida, you know, in they you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to be in hockey country.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, that's great, that's great. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Gus Johnson will join us a little bit later on today.

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<v Speaker 1>The Mavericks introduced Play Thompson yesterday and Clay had this

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<v Speaker 1>to say, leaving Golden State.

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<v Speaker 7>Probably a little disappointed at first, but then as time

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<v Speaker 7>goes on, you have a lot of time to reflect

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<v Speaker 7>and you realize what you did.

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<v Speaker 4>They can't take that away from you.

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<v Speaker 7>As far as the championships or i mean, records are

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<v Speaker 7>meant to be broken, but the impact you have on

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<v Speaker 7>a community and all that that.

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<v Speaker 4>Will forever live.

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<v Speaker 7>And sometimes, you know, breakups are necessary to do us right.

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<v Speaker 8>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>And he picked number thirty one as a tribute to

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<v Speaker 1>our good buddy Reggie Miller. He said he grew up

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<v Speaker 1>watching all that tape of Reggie trying to get open,

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<v Speaker 1>going over screens and you know, kind of catch and

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<v Speaker 1>shoot type of players. So he picked thirty one. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Paul. He's joining the Spurs.

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<v Speaker 9>I played against him this season, and I tell you

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<v Speaker 9>there's probably no player in the league that everybody in

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<v Speaker 9>the league talks about after the game like him, because

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<v Speaker 9>everybody has their just stuff. Me and Harrison was on

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<v Speaker 9>our flight yesterday just talking about how cool it's going

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<v Speaker 9>to be at this point in our career is to

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<v Speaker 9>get a chance to appreciate him day in and day out,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, So that definitely helped.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's talking about Victor Wembanyama. I could have set

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<v Speaker 1>that up a little better, but Chris Paul, they needed

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<v Speaker 1>us point guard last year with Victor, certainly in the

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<v Speaker 1>first half of the season, he just was out of

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<v Speaker 1>place on the court. And a great point guard, a

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<v Speaker 1>good point guard, a veteran point guard, can position you

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<v Speaker 1>for success a little bit more. And Chris is going

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<v Speaker 1>to get plenty of playing time there and he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to be there in a mentorship role for

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<v Speaker 1>Victor Wembanyama. That kind of interesting. Never want a title.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know when you talk about people who never

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<v Speaker 1>players who never want a title, you'll always bring up

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<v Speaker 1>Barkley Malone in Stockton. Well, Chris Paul is a first

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<v Speaker 1>batl Hall of Famer. I can't help but think if

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<v Speaker 1>the commissioner had not voided that trade from the Pelicans

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<v Speaker 1>from New Orleans to the Lakers, then he would have

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<v Speaker 1>had a title or two. But that's when the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>took ownership of, you know, the New Orleans franchise, and

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<v Speaker 1>the commissioner, David Stern said, I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Not going to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>He was worried about what was going to happen to

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<v Speaker 1>New Orleans franchise if you get rid of Chris Paul

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<v Speaker 1>competitive balance and you know, was this a trade that

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<v Speaker 1>was not going to benefit New Orleans? And so because

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA owned or took ownership, Chris Paul never got

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<v Speaker 1>to go to Los Angeles. Had a lot of opportunities,

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<v Speaker 1>played for really good teams. But Chris Paul will probably

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<v Speaker 1>end his career without winning a championship.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Poll That was twenty eleven, right after the lockout. It

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<v Speaker 5>was a three way deal between the Lakers, Hornets, and

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<v Speaker 5>Houston Rockets LA agreed to part ways of Pau Gasol

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<v Speaker 5>lamar Odom exchange for the twenty six year old Chris

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<v Speaker 5>Paul Wow letting Paul gassall goal at that that.

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<v Speaker 4>Meant a tough one.

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<v Speaker 5>Back then he was pretty he was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>But the NBA, David Stern vetoed it. There's miscommunications about it.

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<v Speaker 5>They said Genie bus was very upset, trot how to

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<v Speaker 5>file a protest and didn't work.

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<v Speaker 4>Chris Paul should sue the NBA. Maybe it's too late.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know the statute of limitations, but it'd be

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<v Speaker 1>like you costed me not winning a championship he had.

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<v Speaker 6>That one, his whole legacy would be completely different, would

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<v Speaker 6>it If he had one?

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<v Speaker 1>He might not just have one. Yeah, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he's singled out now, but I don't know where he

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<v Speaker 1>ranks of great point guards of all time. His name

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't come up with of all time. But he's a

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<v Speaker 1>first ballon Hall of Famer because if you start at

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<v Speaker 1>the point guard, because and you know, let's take magic

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<v Speaker 1>out of this. But is Chris Paul better than Steve Nash?

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<v Speaker 1>Is Chris Paul equal to Isaiah Is he equal to

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<v Speaker 1>John Stockton?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 4>Is he allan Ivers?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Where is Chris Paul and the pantheon of point guards here?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Mark, So you know what I'm gonna take the Vinny

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<v Speaker 2>goodwill approach them at their peak? Who would you take?

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<v Speaker 2>Would you take? Oh? Wait, Chris Paul, would you take five?

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Nash?

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<v Speaker 4>Steve Nash.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go Chris Paul because he took a really

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<v Speaker 2>good New Orleans team deep into the playoffs one year

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<v Speaker 2>and it was just like him and guys like Marcus Thornton.

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<v Speaker 4>You have a Nash won the MVP.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Paul should have won MVP, but he didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>No, but Steve Nash did. He won two.

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<v Speaker 1>Now granted he only deserved one, Shack deserved the other one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>at his peak? Okay Stockton or Chris Paul, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>they're pretty similar. It just Stockedon did the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>every year, in the same numbers, for the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody knew exactly what he was going to do, and

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<v Speaker 1>he still did it. And you know he'd give you

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<v Speaker 1>what eighteen and fourteen. I mean, he did that an

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<v Speaker 1>entire career. What hurts Chris Paul is he bounced around

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<v Speaker 1>to so many teams. But I don't I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not Isaiah Who. I mean, I don't know where is

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<v Speaker 1>he a? He top ten point guard of all times?

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<v Speaker 10>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that fair?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't want to sell him short. I just

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<v Speaker 1>because he didn't win a title. It just what bothers me.

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<v Speaker 1>More is he kept bouncing around. Great players don't bounce

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<v Speaker 1>around like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>More, you know what, because I'm an NBA junkie, I

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<v Speaker 2>think wherever he went he made the team better automatically.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'll give you that.

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<v Speaker 2>Like he had Oklahoma City in the playoffs, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was just him and Marcus Thorton. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right about okay, see because I remember, like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>they are a lot better than they should be.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Paul Chris Paul led.

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<v Speaker 5>The league and assists five times. He actually led the

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<v Speaker 5>league in steels six times. But you know what I

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<v Speaker 5>think may hurt him. His style play is unspectacular. It's

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<v Speaker 5>not above the room in any way. It's meandering, it's efficient.

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<v Speaker 5>It's almost a Tim Duncan like as a point guard,

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<v Speaker 5>where it's it's an efficient it's undefendable. But if you

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<v Speaker 5>put a highlight team together, it's not gonna be really

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<v Speaker 5>fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he had more highlights at Wake Forest when

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<v Speaker 1>he played in college than in the NBA. Like he

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<v Speaker 1>he was always like fifteen footer like there. There wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>anything where he went mound you see that. And he

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<v Speaker 1>he's probably known more for maybe some cheap shots that

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<v Speaker 1>he's had in his career. Yeah, when you're doing lugnuts,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know that's not good. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>But if he's allowed to go to the Lakers in

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<v Speaker 6>twenty eleven, Yeah, does he end up on you know,

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<v Speaker 6>all those other teams? Does he end up in Houston,

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<v Speaker 6>Oklahoma City, Phoenix, Golden State.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know him. It's kind of crazy that that happened.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, that David Stearns, Yes, was in charge of a team,

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<v Speaker 6>and I was like, uh no, I say no to

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<v Speaker 6>this tree.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but his job was to protect New Orleans. He

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<v Speaker 1>had to protect He did the right thing from the

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<v Speaker 1>standpoint of protecting the team that needed protection instead of going, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let the Lakers get another great player. So he

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<v Speaker 1>went against conventional wisdom of making your league better by

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<v Speaker 1>having a better team.

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<v Speaker 4>Than, you know, keeping New Orleans a float.

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<v Speaker 1>There if they still let him leave, Yeah, eventually, I

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, and I think it went right. Instead

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<v Speaker 1>of going to the Lakers, he went to the Clippers. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>once again, statute of limitations. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>can sue the estate of the late Commissioner David Stern.

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<v Speaker 1>of phone calls here Lorenzo in Indiana, Hi, Lo, what's

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<v Speaker 1>on your mind today?

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<v Speaker 8>Hey, good morning guys. So I got a story from

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<v Speaker 8>a parents' perspective where if your child becomes good through AAU,

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<v Speaker 8>gets to high school, gets offers, and then my son

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<v Speaker 8>walked away from basketball he was burnt out or didn't

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<v Speaker 8>want to do it anymore, or I didn't handle it well.

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<v Speaker 8>Then he went in to play in the spring volleyball.

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<v Speaker 8>So now he just graduated. He's going to go to

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<v Speaker 8>college and play volleyball. But imagine the stress of the

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<v Speaker 8>depression that parents go through when your kid does well.

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<v Speaker 8>It's like, Okay, college is paid for, we don't have

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<v Speaker 8>to worry about it. Then they just walk away like

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<v Speaker 8>the not that you want it for yourself, but just

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<v Speaker 8>the Midt Tom side of parents who've always done it's

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<v Speaker 8>since third grade, but not thinking about the child's side,

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<v Speaker 8>and like, you've got it made, this is paid for.

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<v Speaker 8>What do you mean you're walking away? But then he

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<v Speaker 8>was able to do something else and do even better

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<v Speaker 8>at it. So I probably just something for parents to

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<v Speaker 8>keep in mind. There's other things out there, other.

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<v Speaker 1>Sports well, and that's the tricky part that we all

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<v Speaker 1>think all he could be or she could be the

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<v Speaker 1>next well probably not, but are they doing something.

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<v Speaker 4>That they real love, they enjoy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's the great part of parenting, when your son

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<v Speaker 1>or daughter is dragging you, not the other way around.

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<v Speaker 1>My son infamously was on the campus of a university

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<v Speaker 1>that had a very good crew team, and my son

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<v Speaker 1>is good size. He's walking on campus with a buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>The crew coach comes out and says, uh, are you

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<v Speaker 1>going to school here, and he goes, no, no, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about it. He goes, well, we'd love for you

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<v Speaker 1>to try out for the crew team, and my son

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<v Speaker 1>says to the crew coach, Oh, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>do anything in college where I have to get up early.

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<v Speaker 1>So he relays his story to my wife and I

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<v Speaker 1>and I go, he goes, no, Dan, why would I

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<v Speaker 1>want to do that? You know how they kind of

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<v Speaker 1>get up at five in the morning. I go, if

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't paying for your school, and I said, you

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<v Speaker 1>had to do that and you could get a scholarship,

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<v Speaker 1>and he goes, yeah, probably, but he didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>do something where if he did it well enough, he'd have.

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<v Speaker 4>To do it in college.

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<v Speaker 2>I going, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>So happened on two different campuses where they saw him,

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<v Speaker 1>and they both one was USC and one was a

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<v Speaker 1>school on the East Coast, and the crew coach said

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<v Speaker 1>to him, Hey, if you come here, we want you

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<v Speaker 1>to be on the crew team. He's like, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to do that. That's too much work.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh my god, what have we done?

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<v Speaker 4>What have we done? We failed? He could have been

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<v Speaker 4>in the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 1>But you do you live vicariously. I remember I played

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<v Speaker 1>catch with my son. It's one of the more heartbreaking

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<v Speaker 1>moments I ever had as a parent. And he just

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't an athlete. He tried, he tried really hard, and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember my wife was watching this we're outside playing

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<v Speaker 1>catch and we came in and she goes, he's not you,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, wow, it just hit me so hard.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't see it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I tell parents, I've lived this, I've

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<v Speaker 1>made those mistakes. He can't be or she can't be

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<v Speaker 1>what you want them to be. And I wanted him

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<v Speaker 1>to be a baseball player. And my wife saw it

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<v Speaker 1>clearly and she said he's not you. And she said

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy what he enjoys. And they changed my relationship. But

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<v Speaker 1>just letting you know, I wanted him to be a

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<v Speaker 1>baseball player. I would spend hours whatever, basketball player, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just not who he was. That's not who he is.

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<v Speaker 1>But he became something far greater than what I was

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<v Speaker 1>hoping he would be. And that is you know, a person,

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<v Speaker 1>a husband, a father, Those are the things that you

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<v Speaker 1>treat or that you teach that really lasts the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of their lives. Not you know what, he can hit

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<v Speaker 1>the cutoff guy. You know he's not bad. You know

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<v Speaker 1>he can do a hit and run like it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter in the moment. It matters so much to you

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<v Speaker 1>because he go up to the plate, two out's strikeout,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you'd be like you just want to hide,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know what, that's your son. It's like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, no, you don't want to be Oh god,

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to make it out.

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<v Speaker 4>It hurts.

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<v Speaker 1>It hurts your kids make you have the highest to

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<v Speaker 1>high's lowest lows. But when I'm trying to make my

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<v Speaker 1>son into a baseball player and my wife said, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not you, it's the best piece of advice she ever

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<v Speaker 1>gave me with him. Thank god. I listened Pat in Ohio. Hi, Pat,

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<v Speaker 1>what's on your mind today?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Dan, Along those lines of parent and child. The Jimmy

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<v Speaker 3>Pearsaw story is one that I can. Back in the sixties,

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<v Speaker 3>he played for the Cleveland Indens. I used to listen

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<v Speaker 3>to the Indians on the radio and I remember one

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<v Speaker 3>time him coming up to bat against I know it

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<v Speaker 3>was Detroit, but he wore a football helmet and they

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<v Speaker 3>were like throwing at him and stuff like that. But

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<v Speaker 3>then the movie came out, and this is for any

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<v Speaker 3>of you. This is a movie. I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 3>it's in black and white, but it's Anthony Perkins and

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<v Speaker 3>Carl Maldon and I think it was called Fear Strikes Out. Yep,

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<v Speaker 3>watch it even though, if you got to watch black

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<v Speaker 3>and white, watch the thing because it's a real teacher.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Jimmy Pearsaw he hit a home run

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<v Speaker 1>and he ran around the bases backwards. Might have been

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<v Speaker 1>his one hundredth home run. I'm short on details here,

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<v Speaker 1>but Jimmy Pearsaw was a interesting person, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>he ran around the bases after hitting the home run,

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<v Speaker 1>he ran around backwards. Let that one sink in for

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Rodney and Michigan, Hy, rod what's on

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<v Speaker 1>your mind today?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey?

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<v Speaker 10>How you doing goodbute? So the whole conversation about Canadian basketball,

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<v Speaker 10>I just wanted to bring up the twenty nineteen Toronto

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<v Speaker 10>Raptors because I'm always kind of amazed that the title

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<v Speaker 10>is just kind of forgotten. And the story of that

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<v Speaker 10>final was Kevin Durant. You know, I saw pictures of

0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:25.280
<v Speaker 10>him sarin his achilles over and over and over in

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:27.520
<v Speaker 10>the close up, and that's what you know, that's what

0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:31.000
<v Speaker 10>everyone remembers. But like that would be a huge bomb.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes it was, Yes it was, and people do remember.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that was the finals where Durant got hurt, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course Toronto ended up winning the NBA championship. But

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, it is forgotten. That's one of those Oh

0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 1>that's right, all they wanted that year, that's right. I

0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:53.280
<v Speaker 1>was also wondering about this with Klay Thompson, first BALLL

0:25:53.320 --> 0:25:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Famer. He was never the man, never had

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<v Speaker 1>to be the man. And if Clay went over for ten,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody was like, oh my god, I'm you know, we're

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 1>going to ask him questions and interrogate him. It'd be like, h,

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:12.760
<v Speaker 1>he didn't hit a shot, but they won. If Steph

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:16.720
<v Speaker 1>did that or Draymond did something stupid, then you would

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<v Speaker 1>be asking them questions.

0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:20.879
<v Speaker 4>But Clay was able. He came out of college.

0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Nobody really knew who he was other than they knew

0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:28.239
<v Speaker 1>his dad former NBA player and Laker announce it. So

0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:30.720
<v Speaker 1>he gets to the right place at the right time,

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<v Speaker 1>and somehow it all works out, and then you win

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<v Speaker 1>four titles, a very good two way player, All Star,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the great shooters in the history of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>And now he's going to go to Dallas. It'll be

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<v Speaker 1>forever known unless he wins a title in Dallas, it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be just a footnote what he did at Golden State.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is where when you talk to parents, or

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<v Speaker 1>even when you're talking to players when they're first starting out.

0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Find a play that you love playing in, a system

0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 1>you love playing with players you love playing with, and

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:09.880
<v Speaker 1>makes it far more enjoyable. If you're watching the series Clipped,

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:14.840
<v Speaker 1>you know Chris Paul, Blake Griffin. They didn't like each other.

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Imagine going to work every day. You're on the floor

0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 1>every day and you don't like each other. But you

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 1>had Steph Clay Draymont for a long time. They respected

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 1>each other, they knew their roles, and you start to wonder,

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<v Speaker 1>would you rather have the standalone? If I said you

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<v Speaker 1>could have Klay Thompson's career or Alan Iverson's career, Alan

0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:46.240
<v Speaker 1>Iverson one of the greats Standalone dragged a team to

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA Finals MVP. Or would you rather be Klay

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<v Speaker 1>Thompson Seaton. I know you're a huge Alan Iverson fan. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>That's weird because it's like Alan Iverson's an icon.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, yeah, he's he has like all of the things

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 6>that Klay Thompson will never have. Yes, And Klay Thompson

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 6>has other things that Allen Iverson will never have.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 6>Sheepers, creepers. I gotta take money out of it too. Yes,

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<v Speaker 6>because Clay, this is just career. This is just what

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<v Speaker 6>you accomplished basketball. Why is not what you made? I

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 6>don't know if the joy of that, like the pain

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<v Speaker 6>of losing, is much greater than the joy of winning.

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 6>If I'm winning is great. It's tough to not take

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:35.640
<v Speaker 6>Clay and the run that they've had. I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 6>part of a dynasty, even if you're fourth in line.

0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:42.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Clay's Name's not coming up top seventy five players.

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 4>Alan Iverson's name is definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I would take Klay Thompson's career because he's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the greatest shooters. He was an integral part in

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 1>winning championships. And not that this is the last dynasty

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 1>in basketball, but it is one of the dynasties that

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<v Speaker 1>we will talk about for a long time.

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<v Speaker 4>Marvin, what about you, I'm going Clay, Okay, Paulie.

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 2>It's a tough one.

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<v Speaker 5>By throwing out Iverson's that's a high end name you're

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<v Speaker 5>giving out there. Klay Thompson was partially responsible for four titles.

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<v Speaker 5>He had some tough days. Like you said, six time

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<v Speaker 5>All Star.

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<v Speaker 4>Night, let's go fritzy.

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<v Speaker 2>My first thought was there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I'm saying to Paulie. He was doing a

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 1>fret sea there Klay Thompson.

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<v Speaker 4>Alan Iverson, Clay Thompson. Okay, Todd.

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<v Speaker 12>My first thought was, you go with the rings, But

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<v Speaker 12>Alan Iverson when you hear the answer and he walks again,

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 12>I do the walking into a room and changing the

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:39.360
<v Speaker 12>culture of the sport on and off the court, and

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 12>you add up all those things. Alan Iverson, to me,

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<v Speaker 12>is just a bigger deal even without the rings, like

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:46.280
<v Speaker 12>Marino is a huge deal without a Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 4>Seaton, right.

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<v Speaker 6>Like I love the idea of being Alan Iverson and

0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 6>being a cultural force. Okay, right, I love that, But

0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 6>that's all sort of outward facing, right, the internal torture

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 6>of thinking about how many times I tried to climb

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 6>that hill and never could. I could never climb the hill,

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<v Speaker 6>not one time. Clay did it four times. I was

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:09.800
<v Speaker 6>never able to climb it, just that one time I

0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:12.200
<v Speaker 6>came close. But I was never able to climb that hill.

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<v Speaker 6>That would drive me crazy for the rest of my life.

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<v Speaker 4>Clay or Russell.

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Westbrook, Clay Clay.

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 4>Clay or James Harden Clay.

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<v Speaker 2>So you need a high end person to make this

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<v Speaker 2>a real discussion.

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm just going by MVPs recent MVPs Clay or Vince.

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 2>Carter Canada, Weiss.

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Frederick von Weiss atol Weiss, it's Clay Thompson.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm gonna go Clay.

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<v Speaker 12>It's Clay in an honest moment, I wonder maybe you're

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 12>not so honest moment. The way to rationalize for a

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:57.160
<v Speaker 12>great player that hasn't won rings, they could always somehow

0:30:57.480 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 12>survive all the disappointment by saying, if I had a

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<v Speaker 12>I had a group of guys around me, it's not

0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 12>an individual sport like I wonder. And obviously Marino had

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 12>great receivers and things like that, but I wonder if

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:08.480
<v Speaker 12>they're like, you know, I didn't win any championships, but

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:11.120
<v Speaker 12>you know, the management could have gotten me some better

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<v Speaker 12>guys to help us get over the top.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that keeps you going the rest of

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:18.200
<v Speaker 1>your life. I don't think that works with Marino where

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>he's going. You know, they'd just given me a better

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>running game. He had a Hall of Fame coach, he

0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 1>had free reign to do whatever he want. That offense

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 1>was just one dimensional, and he got to one Super

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Bowl and got blown out by Joe Montana. But it

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<v Speaker 1>let's keep it to basketball here and Clay Thompson winning

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:43.000
<v Speaker 1>titles I think, and being a very important, you know

0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 1>person in winning those titles. It's not like, oh, you

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 1>were on those teams. It's you knew that Clay was

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:49.600
<v Speaker 1>on those teams.

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeh.

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<v Speaker 1>See Chris throwing out big Shot Bob or Clay. Ooh Clay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go Clay too. I mean big shot Bob

0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:04.200
<v Speaker 1>or he's got more titles. Clay was more important in

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<v Speaker 1>the day to day of winning those types. However, however,

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<v Speaker 1>he's big Shot Bob.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, that's a nice nickname.

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because he earned it. I'd be just cool ast

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Clay though, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And Clay's a splash brother. Like so they have

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 2>an iconic name. They are iconic team. So like he

0:32:30.040 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 2>basically he's James Worthy. Like I could have went somewhere

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 2>else and scored twenty eight to night and been an

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<v Speaker 2>All Star ten times?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, would you rather be James Worthy's career or Klay

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<v Speaker 1>Thompson's career?

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<v Speaker 10>Oh?

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:42.920
<v Speaker 2>He was showtime agoing James Worthy?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay consistently contributes Clay or big Shot Bob.

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 4>Who would you rather be?

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<v Speaker 2>Big game, James.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but James.

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<v Speaker 1>If James Worthy ends up going to Cleveland instead of

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers, he's Alex English. He'll average twenty seven a

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<v Speaker 1>night for his career and have twenty seven thousand points,

0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:12.479
<v Speaker 1>but probably nothing to show for it.

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 2>He'd be a snap your finger guy, who is my

0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 2>man with the goggles?

0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he'd be that James Worthy.

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 1>But with you know, the Lakers, that's once again you're

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:24.600
<v Speaker 1>part of something. If Michael Cooper plays for somebody else,

0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 1>he's just somebody else who's playing for a team where

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 1>you go, Ah, that guys, he's pretty active defensively, he

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:33.720
<v Speaker 1>goes to the Lakers. Now you got to guard Larry Bird.

0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Now it's different Clay Thompson's career or Dennis Rodman's career,

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Paulie Rodman, m m Okay, Todd, Clay, Seaton, Rodman, Marvin Clay.

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 1>You got to take everything with Dennis. Yeah, no, I'm

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 1>exactly on the floor on the floor. I would take Clay.

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 1>I would take Clay great, one of the great shooters

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 1>of old time, four titles. Rodman was with the Pistons.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was probably kind of awesome. And then he

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:25.240
<v Speaker 1>was like he was so important to the Michael Jordan

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Ara Bulls that he was allowed to leave to go

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 1>to Vegas for a little while to blow off some

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 1>steam and then I'll be back later. That's how much

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 1>they were, like, God, we need this guy. It's kind

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:38.840
<v Speaker 1>of awesome, yes, Todd, But at some point.

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 12>When you become like that circus act, even if you're

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:42.759
<v Speaker 12>the greatest rebounder in the history of the sport and

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 12>you've got the rings and all that, it still makes

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:45.759
<v Speaker 12>me hesitating.

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:54.440
<v Speaker 1>He got he got notoriety for rebounding. That's that's impossible.

0:34:55.480 --> 0:35:02.920
<v Speaker 1>People came to watch him rebound five titles. I mean,

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean there was a lot to him.

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Mark Robin is the top seventy five guy and

0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 2>Clay is not. So that shows you what you know

0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 2>his peers think of those guys.

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:18.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Paul, what's fascinting about Dennis Robin. He wasn't respected

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 5>when he was playing. He made two All Star teams.

0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 5>He led the league in rebounds eight years in a

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 5>row and made two All Star teams.

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, criminal, All right, let me take a break. More

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<v Speaker 1>phone calls coming up, and Gus Johnson will join us

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:33.719
<v Speaker 1>next hour. Back after this, be sure to catch the

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 1>live edition of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine

0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:40.360
<v Speaker 1>am Eastern six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:46.320
<v Speaker 1>the iHeartRadio WAPP. Marked your calendar, Mark this day down

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:50.319
<v Speaker 1>this Saturday that I'm going to tell you about. It

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:54.480
<v Speaker 1>will be one of the greatest days in college football history.

0:35:55.760 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 1>October twelfth. Saturday, October twelfth. Here's the lineup of games

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<v Speaker 1>Ole Miss LSU, Florida, Tennessee, Ohio State, Oregon, Penn State,

0:36:08.880 --> 0:36:15.919
<v Speaker 1>USC Oklahoma, Texas, all on the same day. Mark your

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 1>calendar plan accordingly, Saturday, October twelfth.

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<v Speaker 4>That's pretty good, Yes, tod Now why do they do that?

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:27.200
<v Speaker 12>I got it if I was just saying just a

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:29.000
<v Speaker 12>coincidence that it happened like that, because there are.

0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 1>A week only here. How about this novel approach for

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:34.359
<v Speaker 1>ratings and money? Yeah, but there are.

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 12>Weeks in college football where like, ah, it's one of

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:36.720
<v Speaker 12>those weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I forget, Yeah, that's off the calendar. I look

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:40.880
<v Speaker 2>forward to next Saturday because there's.

0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:43.279
<v Speaker 1>Probably but I would just enjoy it, Like why would

0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:44.640
<v Speaker 1>you find the negative in that?

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 12>My point is mix it up throughout the year so

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:48.680
<v Speaker 12>that there's always some juicy games every week. We have

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:51.239
<v Speaker 12>those weeks where it's like nothing really to talk about there.

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:53.399
<v Speaker 12>We're two weeks from now, there's nine games on top

0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:53.879
<v Speaker 12>of each other.

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:57.919
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think these conferences go, hey, let's make

0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 1>sure that we have this game, because we got to

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 1>worry about the SEC or the ACC or the Big

0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:05.000
<v Speaker 1>twelve competing with us.

0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 12>It's just unfortunate for the fans where there's weeks where

0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:08.920
<v Speaker 12>you can kind of skip the week almost in competably.

0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 4>Take it as a positive. And some of these games

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:11.680
<v Speaker 4>are on top.

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:11.839
<v Speaker 2>Of each other.

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:12.640
<v Speaker 7>Came and watched that.

0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:14.080
<v Speaker 2>Some of them you got to pick one or the other.

0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Only you could find the negative and what I think

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:20.240
<v Speaker 1>will be the greatest college Saturday this upcoming season.

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:20.719
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:24.320
<v Speaker 5>Also, these college football games are planned years in advance.

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<v Speaker 5>Weekends are playing years in advance. They don't mix and

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<v Speaker 5>match them four months before the season like the NFL does.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh here's one. I had a listener. Roberts says, what

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<v Speaker 1>about Klay Thompson or Dwayne Wade. Dwayne Wade or Klay Thompson.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel slighted for Dwayne Wade right there.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Dwayne Wade was the guy. Okay, well until Lebron

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<v Speaker 4>came to town.

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<v Speaker 6>He was the guy when Shack came to town. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>that's pretty good, but that was back in Shack. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>but he had both of those errors.

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<v Speaker 4>Back in Shack.

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<v Speaker 5>If you had have dropped that years ago that it

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<v Speaker 5>caught on.

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<v Speaker 1>That could be a single, Shack's new single, gentlemen, Chack.

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<v Speaker 4>Here is back end show. Oh no, let's let me

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<v Speaker 4>threw that out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed that the Gladiator two is coming out, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wondered when was Gladiator one the original? And it

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<v Speaker 1>was nineteen ninety, so that's twenty four years. Russell Crowe

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<v Speaker 1>won an Academy Award for that, I believe. But you

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<v Speaker 1>start to see, like Top Gun, how many years was

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<v Speaker 1>that in between the original and the sequel. It's that

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<v Speaker 1>thirty thirty three years, maybe longer. Dumb and Dumber twenty

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<v Speaker 1>year gap, Tron the sequel twenty eight years, Mad Max

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine years, Blade Runner thirty five years, Ghostbuster full

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<v Speaker 1>reboot twenty seven years after Ghostbusters two. So you're starting

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<v Speaker 1>to see like these equals where it isn't Freaky Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>Aren't they doing another one with the Jamie Lee Curtis.

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<v Speaker 5>But reboot and sequels different things. Hmmm, you know, like

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<v Speaker 5>The Hustler and then The Color of Money. That is

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<v Speaker 5>a sequel because Paul Newman plays the same character in both.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not a redo of the original script.

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<v Speaker 1>So a soft sequel or a reboot are are they similar?

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<v Speaker 6>And it has to be what we're talking about has

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<v Speaker 6>to be going from the first one to the second one.

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<v Speaker 6>It can't be a time between like Godfather two and

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<v Speaker 6>three or three and four, where there was many many years,

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<v Speaker 6>but that was like a third or fourth and but.

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<v Speaker 1>You get to take advantage of those. Let's say you

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<v Speaker 1>watched Gladiator in nineteen ninety. Now you're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>watching it and then your kids might be watching that.

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<v Speaker 1>That you'll get an opportunity to get two bites of

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<v Speaker 1>the apple with these sequels because top gun people wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to see, alright, what's Tom Cruise going to do with this?

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<v Speaker 1>And then you found that there were a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>younger audience members who didn't see the original and then

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<v Speaker 1>got to see that and it's, you know, pretty spectacular.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you have, you know, some younger actors in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Glenn Powell is a star now he's in there. But

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Cruise doing what he did, but it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>these sequels are spread out, you know, twenty twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Poem Wall Street was made in nineteen eighty seven, hugely successful.

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<v Speaker 5>They I read a little about it. They wanted us

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<v Speaker 5>Oliver ston't to do a sequel. He said, no way, never,

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<v Speaker 5>it's too iconic. And then another group of people did

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<v Speaker 5>it years later, and they just inserted Charlie Sheenan for

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<v Speaker 5>a scene, but they brought back Michael Douglas.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then who was the actor, Shia Labouf, you know, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>But the Top Gun sequel Maverick. It was also I

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<v Speaker 5>think it was PG or PG thirteen. They didn't have

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<v Speaker 5>it made it very friendly to bring in like nine

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<v Speaker 5>year olds.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, visually it's stimulating.

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<v Speaker 1>Two when you're gonna go to the big, big theater

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<v Speaker 1>and watch that, it's pretty impressive there.

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<v Speaker 5>The Hustler in nineteen sixty one with Paul Newman and

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<v Speaker 5>Jackie Gleason. Years later, The Color of Money Tom Cruise

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<v Speaker 5>and Paul Newman nineteen eighty six, both nominated.

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<v Speaker 1>Two Hours in the books. One More to Go the

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<v Speaker 1>Great Gus Johnson from Fox Sports. He'll join us coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>More of your phone calls as well. Update the poll

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