WEBVTT - The Observer Awards!

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition

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<v Speaker 1>of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side

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<v Speaker 1>Network from San Francisco. I'm a sports byline broadcasting network.

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to Wrestling Observer Vibe with your hosts

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Alvarez and Mike semperviv Are you ready? Are you ready?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get it all. How's it going everybody? Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 1>here on Wrestling Observer Live. We are here every day

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<v Speaker 1>Monday through Friday, now Pacific three Eastern, Sunday three Pacific,

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<v Speaker 1>sixth Eastern. Well, it is Friday here on this show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a long week, friends, but it is Friday

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<v Speaker 1>here in the show, and we got a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about here today. Thankfully, you know, we don't got

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<v Speaker 1>to talk a lot about the raw show elimination Chamber Montreal,

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<v Speaker 1>because in fact, we got another thing everybody can get

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<v Speaker 1>angry about today, and that is the Observer Awards are out.

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<v Speaker 1>We got the full listing of the Observer Awards. What

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<v Speaker 1>was the Promotion of the Year, the Wrestler of the Year,

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<v Speaker 1>the promoter of the year, the worst show of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>We can talk about the top categories here today. New

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<v Speaker 1>issue of The Observer is out on the front page

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<v Speaker 1>Wrestling Observer dot com. If you want to read the

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<v Speaker 1>entire issue and not only see who won all of

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<v Speaker 1>the awards, but you can go back in history and

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<v Speaker 1>see the winners of every award in every category dating

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<v Speaker 1>back to the inception of the awards. That is up

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<v Speaker 1>on the front page right now, so head up there

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<v Speaker 1>and check that out. We've also got, of course, the

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<v Speaker 1>SmackDown Show tonight. This is the SmackDown follow up to

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<v Speaker 1>the Elimination Chamber Show. We got the ratings for Dynamite

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<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday, with no NBA competition, the show broke a

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<v Speaker 1>million viewers, had magical million viewer mark. Then everybody always

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<v Speaker 1>freaks out about, well, it went over a million this week.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll tell you about the show and the quarter hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Got some quarter hour knows from Raw as well. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got the NXT numbers Mercedes Monet and her future in

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<v Speaker 1>New Japan stardom. We've also got announcing well, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>they've ben't really announced it yet, but it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be running two pay per views coming up

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<v Speaker 1>in May. One of them is a King and Queen

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<v Speaker 1>of the ring. We'll tell you about that at the

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<v Speaker 1>update on Jeff Hardy and his DUI case. He has

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<v Speaker 1>been prohibited his license suspended for the next decade. So

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to get into here today. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>Texas four two five seven eight zero seven five six six,

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<v Speaker 1>that is four two five seven eight zero seven five

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<v Speaker 1>six six back in a moment with more observer live.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is gonna be the new gimmick. Every day,

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<v Speaker 1>people demanding people demanding I take calls. God, everyone complains

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<v Speaker 1>about calls for months and months, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>the gimmick is, oh, you must take calls here today.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the emergency? What's the emergency? Post it right there.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see what the emergency is that you

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<v Speaker 1>must call about here today. I can't take calls in Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 1>How many times do I have to explain this to everybody?

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<v Speaker 1>We've got important things to talk about anyway, including the

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<v Speaker 1>follow up to Elimination Chamber, the SmackDown version. We have

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<v Speaker 1>got Charlotte Flair going face to face with her WrestleMania

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<v Speaker 1>thirty nine challenger Aria Ripley. We've got the return of

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<v Speaker 1>Bray Wyatt's Firefly fun House. I guess Bobby Lashley is

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<v Speaker 1>going into the fun house. Do you remember that John

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<v Speaker 1>Cena thing at WrestleMania that I thought was so stupid

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<v Speaker 1>and you liked And it was like one of those

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<v Speaker 1>things where you either liked it or you hated it. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I hated it. But I demand, I demand Brock Lesner

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<v Speaker 1>enters this Firefly fundhouse. I need I need to see

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<v Speaker 1>this as much as I need to see Bobby Lashley

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<v Speaker 1>and Brock Lesner versus Bray White and Uncle Howdy. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I'm getting either of them. Look, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what I did to deserve this. What question the

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<v Speaker 1>Montreal finished? I have to be punished now. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what Bobby Lashley did to deserve this, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>getting Bray wyat. But yeah, I'm much like you. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to see Brock Lessner walk through that portal and

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<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden there's Shelton Benjamin in the

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<v Speaker 1>corner and Brock looks down and he's got his Minnesota

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<v Speaker 1>Stretching Crew outfit on, and all of a sudden, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like OVW World and it takes him back to their

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<v Speaker 1>and can you imagine the hilarity that could ensue, and

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<v Speaker 1>that would be much better than what they're doing with

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<v Speaker 1>both Brock and Omas and whatever they do with Bobby

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<v Speaker 1>Lashly and Bray White, because it doesn't seem like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good fit. But who am I? Right? Yeah? Who

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<v Speaker 1>are you? I heard that? I heard that last week. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>Ray Mysterio will be facing Carrie and Cross. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I've seen that one before. And then we've got

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<v Speaker 1>Imperium against Bronze Roman, Ricochet and Madcab Moss. So a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of notes, Dominic is valid to be at SmackDown.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think we can all figure out what's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be happening in this Ray Mysterio versus Carrie and Cross match.

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<v Speaker 1>And also, you know if you guys, and normally I

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<v Speaker 1>ignore this stuff, but I actually saw it for once.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know how, but they did a gimmick

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<v Speaker 1>on social media which you're gonna find hard to believe. Everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>but Madcab Moss and Emma are teasing a heel turn.

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<v Speaker 1>Why well, because Madcap was unable to beat Gunther because

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<v Speaker 1>of the fans. The fans were too noisy during that

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<v Speaker 1>match or something, and so because of the fans, it

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<v Speaker 1>appears that Madcap Moss and Emma are turning. Heel you,

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<v Speaker 1>this is stupid. Wow, this is stupid in every way.

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<v Speaker 1>You just look. All you have to do is give

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<v Speaker 1>Moss his first name back and stop being madcap. And

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden you have a guy who's legitimate.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he can talk, he's got a good body,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been there forever, Like, can we give this guy

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to actually break out and do something without

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<v Speaker 1>saddling him with more nonsense unless this is going to

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<v Speaker 1>dovetail with braun Breaker, since apparently they don't want the

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<v Speaker 1>fans to like him either, So we have Wednesdays at

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<v Speaker 1>dynamite number, which I will admit caught me off guard.

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<v Speaker 1>The show did one point zero three million viewers, which

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<v Speaker 1>was up twenty five percent from a week ago. It

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<v Speaker 1>is the largest total audience for the show since October five.

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<v Speaker 1>The eighteen to forty nine demo was a point three five,

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<v Speaker 1>which was up thirty percent from last week, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was the best rating in that demos in September fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>of last year. Ratings were up in every single demo

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<v Speaker 1>except women eighteen to forty nine, where they were even.

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<v Speaker 1>Males twelve to thirty four, up fifty two point four percent,

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<v Speaker 1>and as compared to last week, they were up one

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<v Speaker 1>percent in overall viewers down twelve percent and eighteen to

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<v Speaker 1>forty and they've lost a lot of eighteen to forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine viewers a year over year. But if you're wondering why,

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<v Speaker 1>and when this number first came out, I was wondering why. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it was not Evil Uno, I'm sorry to say. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was not Tony Kahn's big announcement, I am sorry

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<v Speaker 1>to say, And it was not the Battle Royal, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sorry to say. What it was was the lack of

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<v Speaker 1>NBA competition for the first time in a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you look at the quarters, the show just opened, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it opened over a million, and it largely stayed over

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<v Speaker 1>a million until coincidentally that Battle Royal, and they started

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<v Speaker 1>losing viewers. During the Battle Royal, they bottomed out in

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<v Speaker 1>the typical death spot. They went up a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>for the Mosley Evil Uno match, and that's the story.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, people just tuned in in larger numbers at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning, and they watched seventy five minutes of the

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<v Speaker 1>show and then they had largely I guess had enough

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<v Speaker 1>and they started losing viewers at that point. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually kind of when you look at the raw number

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<v Speaker 1>for Monday raw average two million. And what happened was

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<v Speaker 1>they had a very strong first hour and the viewers

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<v Speaker 1>stayed strong through the second hour, and then they fell

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<v Speaker 1>off a cliff in that third hour. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've mentioned a million times shows too long. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>people tuned in, they wanted to see what happened after

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<v Speaker 1>the elimination chamber, and they liked what they saw. But

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<v Speaker 1>after about two hours, it's like we've seen two hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Main event was Edge versus Austin Theory. I know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't like Edge, you're gonna place to blame all

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<v Speaker 1>on Edge. And I don't think that you can blame

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<v Speaker 1>Edge for this, and I really don't even think you

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<v Speaker 1>can blame Austin Theory. What you can say is people

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<v Speaker 1>saw that the main event was Austin Theory versus Edge

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<v Speaker 1>for the US title. They did not believe that Edge

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<v Speaker 1>was going to win the title, and he didn't, and

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<v Speaker 1>they decided, I've seen my two hours. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go do something else. But for those of

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<v Speaker 1>you tracking, and it's way too early, the opening half

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<v Speaker 1>hour where they had Sammy Zane all over the show.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the highest rated thing on the show. The

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<v Speaker 1>show went down a little bit afterwards, and then it

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<v Speaker 1>did go up for Cody, and then it dipped again.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, Sammy and Cody are the two biggest movers.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you have to, you know, break it down.

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<v Speaker 1>Sammy did do better than Cody on this show. Barely

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It was largely even, but Sammy did do

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<v Speaker 1>better in the but of course it was the opening

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<v Speaker 1>of the show. People too, it in after the pay

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<v Speaker 1>per view. They want to find out what happened. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's the Raw story. And the only other number quickly

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<v Speaker 1>is NXT five nine thousand, second highest audience since January

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four. I guess that's the last four weeks, sixteenth

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<v Speaker 1>on the cable charts, point one four at eighteen to

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine. And it was just it was a fine show.

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<v Speaker 1>But Raw was number one, two and three on cable

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<v Speaker 1>and Dynamite was number one on cable. So wrestling is

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<v Speaker 1>doing very well right now if you are one of

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<v Speaker 1>the two big shows on cable, Raw and Dynamite, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure SmackDown tonight is probably gonna do another two

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<v Speaker 1>point three million viewers, So those are your numbers. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not impressed by the twenty three thousand people who came

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<v Speaker 1>back for the overrun of NXT to see Gender obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the big boost to that show at the end, I

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<v Speaker 1>was not that impressed. I mean, there's probably twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>thousand people that were waiting for the next show. Listen

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<v Speaker 1>to everybody, don't pull this gender god hindered thing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>like God, bless the guy. I have nothing against him.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I said last night on the Brian of

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<v Speaker 1>Any show, if you took somebody who has never watched

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<v Speaker 1>pro wrestling and you showed them braun Breaker versus Gender,

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<v Speaker 1>and you said, one of these men has been wrestling

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time and he is a former world champion,

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<v Speaker 1>and the other guy has been wrestling for a year

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<v Speaker 1>and a half and he's in developmental. Okay, ninety nine

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the people are going to guess that braun

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<v Speaker 1>Breaker is the guy guy who has been wrestling long time,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a former champion, and the other guy is

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who's been in developmental for a year and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. It was not an impressive showing. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the worst Broun Breaker title match we've seen. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's one thing here and it ain't Broun Breaker. Friends,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know what, bron Breaker's got to get used

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<v Speaker 1>to that when he does become a star on the

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<v Speaker 1>main roster, and then he's got a face off against

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more guys like gender than guys like Kevin Owens. God,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope not if he's in the title picture. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to hope not either, But you know what, big

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<v Speaker 1>guys they like him back in a moment it is

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<v Speaker 1>ever live. Yeah, well, I haven't heard what was so

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<v Speaker 1>important in terms of calls. I tried. Sorry everybody, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Mercedes Money only committed to two more dates with New

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<v Speaker 1>Japan and Stardom, this coming off her just winning the

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<v Speaker 1>IWGP Women's title. She's only committed to two more dates.

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<v Speaker 1>April eighth at Sumo Hall for New Japan on the

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<v Speaker 1>Sakura Genesis Show, where she'll defend against Zumi, who was

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<v Speaker 1>an excellent worker. Dave ads at a rematch with Kyrie

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<v Speaker 1>at one point was planned, but they changed that. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the other one is April twenty third, Yokohama Arena

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<v Speaker 1>Mayu Iwatani, probably a title match that says here, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess unless she loses to a Zumi part of a

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<v Speaker 1>double main event, which will likely be a World of

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<v Speaker 1>Stardom Championship match with Julie against tam Nakano. So I

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<v Speaker 1>guess we'll see what happens after that. I mean, she

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<v Speaker 1>either signs or she's got to drop that title. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna do this again, are we? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>do this again? I would hope we won't do this again.

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<v Speaker 1>Would make too much sense to lose it to my

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<v Speaker 1>Yui Watai too. You know, you can build easily build

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<v Speaker 1>a storyline around that. So you know, we know the

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<v Speaker 1>matches are going to be good. We just had one

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<v Speaker 1>with Kyrie. When you look at a Zoomi and when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at Mau, you figure, okay, unless the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>falls out, she's going to have two really good matches

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<v Speaker 1>with them too. And then if she drops the belt

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<v Speaker 1>and goes away and just goes on a barn storming tour. Cool. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if that has helped New Japan and

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<v Speaker 1>Startom overall, but we're gonna have to see. But when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to the match quality, you know, I'm hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting my money's worth because you know, I only

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<v Speaker 1>paid a pay per view costs to watch her. So

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<v Speaker 1>whether New Japan and Startom do or not, that's to

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<v Speaker 1>be determined. We've got WWE running two pay per views

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<v Speaker 1>in May. According to Brandon Thurston, they have Backlash scheduled

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<v Speaker 1>for May sixth, and King of the Ring and Queen

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<v Speaker 1>the Ring on May twenty seventh, which sounds to me

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<v Speaker 1>like we would do the tournaments on television and then

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<v Speaker 1>the finals or maybe the semifinals and finals for both

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<v Speaker 1>of those would be on the pay per view, because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you can run two tournaments on one

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<v Speaker 1>pay per view unless you want to have a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of short nothing to happen in matches. So the schedule

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<v Speaker 1>at this point looks to me. WrestleMania Night one April first,

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<v Speaker 1>Rustlemania Night two April second, Backlash May sixth, King and

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<v Speaker 1>Queen of the Ring May twenty seven, Money the Bank

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<v Speaker 1>July first, and SummerSlam is August fifth. That is the

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<v Speaker 1>lineup we have. Yeah, well, you know I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>two of those at least WrestleMania Night one and two,

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<v Speaker 1>But that's it at the moment. Oh, at the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>we have the Florida d Y case in involving Jeff Hardy,

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<v Speaker 1>dating back to June at twenty twenty two, closed on

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<v Speaker 1>at a Thursday. He submitted a written plea of nolo

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<v Speaker 1>contend there to all charges. It is where a defendant

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<v Speaker 1>agrees that's my latin. So where a defendant agrees to

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<v Speaker 1>accept punishment but does not accept or deny responsibility, does

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<v Speaker 1>not accept or to nigh responsibility. Yes, for that in

0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:19.080
<v Speaker 1>which they were charged. Seems like there's only two options there. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not how this works in the legal system. You

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<v Speaker 1>have a couple of ways, a couple of times where

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's not an admission of guilt, it's not anything,

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<v Speaker 1>it's no low content rae. Well, according to the Valusia

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<v Speaker 1>County Court records, here is the full sentence in abeyance.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. There's another one there. He has a

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<v Speaker 1>thirty day county jail sentence with thirty days credit for

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<v Speaker 1>time served, two years probation, four thousand, five hundred eighty

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<v Speaker 1>six dollars in fines and court fees, ten year suspension

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<v Speaker 1>of his license, a ten year suspension of his license.

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<v Speaker 1>You know this point, you may as well just suspended

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<v Speaker 1>that license for the rest of his life. I mean it,

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<v Speaker 1>let's be honest here, two years with an interlock device

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<v Speaker 1>and ninety day vehicle impoundment. I mean if year with

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<v Speaker 1>an interlock device never should be no vehicle. Yes, is

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<v Speaker 1>that for the lawnmower, because that counts. If you've ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen any of those cops shows, you'd know if you

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<v Speaker 1>saw a guy with a John Deer driving down the road,

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<v Speaker 1>you can be picked up for a dui if he's drunk,

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<v Speaker 1>got a bike anything. So, I mean, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just completely ridiculous. I don't even know if it does.

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<v Speaker 1>It does make no sense here that he would have

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<v Speaker 1>to have an interlock for two years but can't drive

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<v Speaker 1>for ten years, and his vehicle is only impounded for

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<v Speaker 1>ninety days. So so he just has the vehicle that

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<v Speaker 1>he can just look at every day. Oh man, there's

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<v Speaker 1>my vehicle. I can look at. I can't get in it.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't go anywhere. Well. To be fair, though, to

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<v Speaker 1>be fair, that's his property and it actually has a

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<v Speaker 1>value where y if you think about it, he can't

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<v Speaker 1>drive for ten years, he should be able to go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and sell it. So maybe you can go ahead. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if that's the case, just give him the

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<v Speaker 1>damn car back and let him sell it. I mean,

0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:10.080
<v Speaker 1>what his punishment is, you can't sell the car for

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<v Speaker 1>ninety days. I know, I don't know. The whole thing's weird,

0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:16.960
<v Speaker 1>core mandated DUI school or drug rehab program, community service.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh, he blew eighth Florida the legal limited Florida's

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<v Speaker 1>point zero eight. He blew a point two nine four.

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<v Speaker 1>And this wasn't the first time. So I just think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not only that you get rid of the

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<v Speaker 1>whole car thing, what time of morning? Remember, because like

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<v Speaker 1>I know, and it doesn't matter what time of day

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<v Speaker 1>it was, because at any point it's completely ridiculous, stupid, dangerous,

0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:46.760
<v Speaker 1>all of that stuff. But it was also rush hour

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning with school buses on the road. That

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<v Speaker 1>he was like that he had no idea where he

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<v Speaker 1>was none, you know, on a on a look at

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<v Speaker 1>camp counselor position like you're gonna like I'm on vacation.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to the QFC by my house a few

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<v Speaker 1>days ago, and I'm really lounging for this story, and

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<v Speaker 1>they have a they have a Starbucks in there, so

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna get a cake pop for my child,

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<v Speaker 1>and listen, Bothel is a small town, but it ain't

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<v Speaker 1>that small, okay. So I go to this QFC and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to order my food and you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what it is about Starbucks, but it's like

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<v Speaker 1>they got one person working there, and that person also

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<v Speaker 1>has to make everyone's coffee, which is always like a

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<v Speaker 1>really complicated order, and so you're just sitting there waiting

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<v Speaker 1>and waiting, and I'm like God, And then they have

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<v Speaker 1>two people working there. These two girls are working there,

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<v Speaker 1>and like they're both making a coffee together. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>why can't want do you take an order and the

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<v Speaker 1>other one make the coffee? Like what's going on here?

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just waiting forever and finally they get done

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<v Speaker 1>with a coffee and I'm ready to order this cake

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<v Speaker 1>pop for my child. But now they're talking. They're ignoring me.

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<v Speaker 1>They're talking and they're looking out because it's it's in

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<v Speaker 1>the KFC, so you can like look out the window

0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:10.479
<v Speaker 1>and you can see the parking lot and everything, and

0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:13.520
<v Speaker 1>they're they're whispering about this guy. They're like, oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>he's leaving. And I'm like, what's going on here? Is

0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:19.080
<v Speaker 1>this like some in mind in the middle of some

0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:21.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, romance show. There's a camera behind me here,

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<v Speaker 1>Who are these swooning over in the parking lot? So

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<v Speaker 1>I look out and see who they're talking about, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're actually not swooning what they're what they're what they're

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<v Speaker 1>in awe of. And at this point I forgave them

0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:34.320
<v Speaker 1>for not paying attention to me and taking my order.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a guy who decided that he was going to

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<v Speaker 1>go get his groceries in a John Dear tractor. He

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<v Speaker 1>has taken his tractor to the grocery store. Now, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>some of you that live in a rural area, this

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<v Speaker 1>is not like anything that we would find out of

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<v Speaker 1>the ordinary. But let me tell you something. In Bothel,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know where he would have had a

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<v Speaker 1>John Dear tractor. He has taken his John Deer tractor

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<v Speaker 1>to the store. He is he has literally found a

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<v Speaker 1>way to park in a stall. He has gone in

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<v Speaker 1>to get his groceries, and then he's gone out and

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<v Speaker 1>he's driving his John Deer tractor away. I was like,

0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:21.680
<v Speaker 1>what is going on here? What is happening? Dude thinks

0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:24.040
<v Speaker 1>he's trying to skirt. Do you need a license? For that.

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<v Speaker 1>He was even, well, that's what he's probably trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get around, going, well, I just got it taken away,

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<v Speaker 1>but I still need to get up here, So that's

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<v Speaker 1>what he's doing. But yeah, yeah, I bet you it's

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<v Speaker 1>either that or listen on mushrooms or dust or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that and just figure, all right, I'm ding to

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<v Speaker 1>the store. You know, some of you some of you

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<v Speaker 1>don't get it. I understand that in some places it

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<v Speaker 1>is not unusual to drive your John Deer tractor to

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<v Speaker 1>the grocery store. The difference is this doesn't happen in Bothel.

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<v Speaker 1>There isn't even any you were for him to use

0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:06.040
<v Speaker 1>his John Deer tractor. There is no farmland, there is

0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:10.280
<v Speaker 1>no like, what was he even doing with this thing?

0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:13.760
<v Speaker 1>What was he doing with a John Deer tractor in Bothel?

0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:19.200
<v Speaker 1>God late. I think the craziest part of the whole story, though,

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<v Speaker 1>was when like everybody just finally stopped looking slack drawn

0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:26.439
<v Speaker 1>out the window with that guy and turned around and

0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:31.080
<v Speaker 1>there was the boss of the entire place, Keana James,

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<v Speaker 1>telling everyone to get back to work and stopped gawking. Dude.

0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:36.399
<v Speaker 1>I wish Keana James would be there telling people to

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<v Speaker 1>get back to work. Give me my cake pop. Dude,

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<v Speaker 1>don't what no goofy drink anyway. You do a couple

0:22:45.119 --> 0:22:48.080
<v Speaker 1>of text text messages here, I don't get anything. I

0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:50.480
<v Speaker 1>don't get anything. I got a cake pop for my child.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't drink anything. Now listen, are you only going

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<v Speaker 1>to rant about Starbucks and how every time they have

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<v Speaker 1>something that's good to eat, it's only there for like

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<v Speaker 1>six months and they discontinue it. I don't even want

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<v Speaker 1>to get into that the Michigan cherry coffeecake. I know

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<v Speaker 1>what you're talking about. I know, Bryan, since here in Hawaii,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you could meet up with that guy with the

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<v Speaker 1>grades who had banned. Yeah, well, I don't think he's

0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:22.480
<v Speaker 1>on this island, and if he is, change islands. One

0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:24.119
<v Speaker 1>important part of the King of the Ring Queen of

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<v Speaker 1>the Ring is that it's taking place on double or

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing weekend. I take it Tony Khan isn't too happy

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<v Speaker 1>about that one. Well, I'm sure you know he'll be

0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:33.600
<v Speaker 1>upset about that, but not the first time that we've

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<v Speaker 1>had a doubling up on pay per views and that

0:23:35.920 --> 0:23:40.360
<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. Yeah, this person here says, if wwe

0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:43.399
<v Speaker 1>had been so steadfast. With not changing storylines in nineteen

0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:45.840
<v Speaker 1>ninety six, Hunter would have won the King of the Ring.

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<v Speaker 1>And we may not have ever gotten the Austin three

0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:52.840
<v Speaker 1>sixteen Pro Bowl. That's true, but I rewatched all of

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<v Speaker 1>Monday Night Raw through ninety six and ninety seven, and

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<v Speaker 1>that Austin three sixteen promo, like you know it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a member Bowl thing and everything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was not stone cold Steve Auston the next day.

0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:07.440
<v Speaker 1>It was months before he started getting over. It was

0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:10.200
<v Speaker 1>the feud with Bret Hart that started getting him over.

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<v Speaker 1>He would have been in the same place with or

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<v Speaker 1>without Austin three sixteen. Said, I just whipped your ass

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<v Speaker 1>back in a moment. I was there alive. I got

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Brian Elberez here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike zimberbeb

0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:44.480
<v Speaker 1>also Wrestling Observative Round. This technology got I can't get

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<v Speaker 1>anything working here. You know what, you realize I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>everything by myself here, you though, I'm in Hawaii. I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta start this recording and then I gotta get back

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<v Speaker 1>to this screen. Then I gottah. You guys, you know

0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:59.240
<v Speaker 1>it was hilarious during the break. Everybody back. He sat

0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:01.520
<v Speaker 1>back and he said right on him, and he jumped up.

0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:04.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, hopefully that's in the outtake somewhere. It was hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>Too bad you couldn't see it though. No, I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a professional. Observer Awards. Let's look at the top award

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<v Speaker 1>winners point getters. Wrestler of the Year John Moxley. He

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<v Speaker 1>won with three thousand, one hundred and one of votes

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred and ninety eight first place VOTs, beating out

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<v Speaker 1>Roman Reigns a two hundred and thirty two and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two sixteen. I did not vote in the Observer Awards

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<v Speaker 1>this year, but I would have voted for John Moxley.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with this pick. I realized that Roman Reigns

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<v Speaker 1>was the champion of the biggest wrestling organization in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And I realized that this Roman Reigns deal with Sammy's

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:50.720
<v Speaker 1>Ain and Cody is hot right now, but for the

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<v Speaker 1>vast majority of the year it wasn't. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Roman Reigns, the Roman Reigns Sammy thing and the blood

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<v Speaker 1>line and everything that really starts to pick up in

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<v Speaker 1>the latter half of the year, the last few months,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it really picked up in the first few

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<v Speaker 1>months of twenty twenty three. These are not the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three awards. He did the twenty twenty two awards.

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<v Speaker 1>And for most of the year, I mean, Roman was

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<v Speaker 1>there and he was beating this guy, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>beating that guy, and we were wondering, who's gonna beat

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<v Speaker 1>Roman reigns it's time. So John Moxley on the other

0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:28.040
<v Speaker 1>and he had a great reign for the first half

0:26:28.200 --> 0:26:31.520
<v Speaker 1>of the year. Then he dropped the title of Punk

0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 1>and then everything went to hell. Punk got injured, we

0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 1>had the brawl, everything like that, and so they needed

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:41.720
<v Speaker 1>they needed somebody, and they chose him, And instead of

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:44.000
<v Speaker 1>getting the Summer of Punk, we got the Summer of Moxley,

0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 1>which was awesome. And you know, this guy was the

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:55.600
<v Speaker 1>heart of a EW for the majority of twenty twenty two.

0:26:56.200 --> 0:26:58.639
<v Speaker 1>Dude never got his vacation that he was promised. He

0:26:58.680 --> 0:27:02.439
<v Speaker 1>had to come back and and saved the show, and

0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:05.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know, I think most people would

0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 1>argue that the show has never quite returned to the

0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:11.439
<v Speaker 1>level that it was when he was the champion. So

0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Moxley gets my vote as the Wrestler of the Year. Yeah,

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:19.479
<v Speaker 1>he does to me. As well too, And it's not

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Roman Reigns as fault. I mean Roman Reigns. The thing

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 1>he's got working for him is the fact that he

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:28.680
<v Speaker 1>works for the largest professional wrestling company out there. For Moxley,

0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:31.960
<v Speaker 1>to me, it's because he went out for GCW and

0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:35.400
<v Speaker 1>had good matches with Homicide. He had him with Effie

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:40.359
<v Speaker 1>and aj Gray defended that title the ultimately ended up

0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:42.639
<v Speaker 1>losing it to Nick Gage. He was out there, he

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 1>had the matches with New Japan when they were tied up.

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 1>So you take that into also to me, into play

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 1>with what he did with his aw stuff, and yeah,

0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:56.120
<v Speaker 1>I actually think that it fits. He's far more valuable

0:27:56.600 --> 0:28:00.080
<v Speaker 1>in some ways to a w right now than in

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Roman Reigns in some ways again, or is the WWE.

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 1>You can change those metrics to move them however you want.

0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 1>But I have no problem at all but John Moxley

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:13.960
<v Speaker 1>winning this award your Mike Mike sounds horrible according to

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>the chat, So disconnect and reconnect and I'll move on

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 1>here to the most outstanding wrestler who ran away with it.

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Will Osprey nine hundred and fifty one first place votes,

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 1>four thousand, eight hundred and seven total votes and Brian

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Danielson was number two with ninety two votes, So Osprey

0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 1>one with ten times the number of first place votes

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 1>and and basically five times the number of total votes.

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:49.520
<v Speaker 1>So I don't think anyone's really gonna argue Will Osprey

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:52.960
<v Speaker 1>is most outstanding. Perhaps you will, but you will certainly

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 1>be in the minority here. Mike is not back yet.

0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't argue at Brian and the mics. Okay, that

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:04.920
<v Speaker 1>sounds a lot better. Well in another one. I don't

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 1>think it was gonna argue Tag Team of the Year

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 1>FTR seven hundred and eighty two first place votes, which

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 1>was not quite twenty times. He has second place first

0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 1>place votes which were the Briscos, but three eight hundred

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:23.520
<v Speaker 1>and fifty nine first place vote or I'm sorry, total

0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 1>votes seven eighty two first place, beating out the Briscos,

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Young Bucks, Usos, the acclaimed Ossie Open and others. I

0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:34.640
<v Speaker 1>couldnot argue FTR as the obvious choice for Tag Team

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 1>of the Year, no argument. Let's see best on interviews.

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 1>We have got in first place two thousand, nine hundred

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 1>and eighty four total votes, four hundred and eighty six

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:54.719
<v Speaker 1>first place m JF beating out second place, John Moxley

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty two first place in fifteen hundred

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 1>second place total votes. So it was close, sir, than

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:05.840
<v Speaker 1>the other ones. I mean, MGF did not beat second

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 1>place by fifteen times like we had in the tag

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 1>team voting, but clear winner MJF over Moxley, CM Punk,

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Sammy Zane and Eddie Kingston. Yeah, tough to argue that

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 1>even if I, you know, said didn't wasn't not a

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 1>big fan of his promo on Wednesday night, it doesn't matter.

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he is consistently going out there and always

0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 1>he's fantastic. Now if he doesn't suit you and Eddie

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Kingston does or something like that, I guess you know,

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 1>everything is subjective here. But MJF by far is the

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 1>most consistent and gets the most out of his promos usually.

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:48.040
<v Speaker 1>And then we had the Promotion of the year. Now,

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Promotion of the Year was one by AEW with four

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 1>hundred and eighty first plays votes three thousand, two hundred

0:30:56.760 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 1>and seventy second plays votes. That does not surprise me. However,

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 1>a very close number two. Stardom was number two with

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 1>two hundred and seventy three total votes, so AW did

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 1>not even double second place two thousand, two hundred and

0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 1>thirty two total votes, which was within one thousand and

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 1>then WWE with eighteen hundred votes. New Japan was seventeen

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:30.720
<v Speaker 1>ninety nine, and UFC in fifth place, So an excellent,

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 1>excellent showing for stardom, coming in second only to a

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 1>e W and beating WWE. Although one of the things

0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I got to say about these these uh this voting

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>is that you know, in the old days, the cutoff

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 1>was like December and the Observer Awards would come out

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 1>in early January. Now the Observer Awards are coming out

0:31:56.600 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 1>at the end of February, which is like sac dab

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of you know, WrestleMania season, and you

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>know WWE. If you look through these and a lot

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 1>of people are really upset about the placeman of w

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>w E in these votes, Like you know, w w

0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:18.760
<v Speaker 1>E was third for Promotion of the Year, and you know,

0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 1>they and a lot of the worst worst like show

0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that they got they got a lot

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 1>of votes. Here's the thing, everybody, we're looking at WWE

0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:34.960
<v Speaker 1>right now when it is really hot. That's twenty twenty three, Okay,

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>WWE was not super hot for most of twenty twenty two.

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:43.960
<v Speaker 1>For most of twenty twenty two through like August, it

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 1>was still being booked by events. The shows were still horrible,

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 1>much worse than they are now. There was no bloodline,

0:32:52.680 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Sammy's and the return of Cody. All of that is

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 1>going to go into the voting for the year twenty

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 1>twenty three Star. I'm listening. I didn't watch every Stardom show,

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 1>but I watched, you know, a lot of the top matches.

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Me and Tom watched it fairly regularly for the Monday show,

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:14.320
<v Speaker 1>and it was miles better in twenty twenty two than

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 1>WWE was. You know, a lot of people are really

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:20.520
<v Speaker 1>down on AW right now. That right now is twenty

0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 1>twenty three. For most of twenty twenty two, aw still

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 1>felt like a really hot promotion with hot storylines and

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 1>big matches, So keep that in mind when you get

0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 1>angry about some of these awards here. Plus, also remember

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 1>that these are the hardest of the hardcore fans that

0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>are voting on this. They are the ones that are

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 1>subscribing to the Wrestling Observer newsletter or at least know

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 1>enough about it to send in stuff. And if you

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 1>look at the first place, votes for like promotion of

0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 1>the year. It's like, if you total them up, it's

0:33:56.440 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 1>eight hundred and eight, you know what I'm saying. So

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:03.040
<v Speaker 1>it's like these are the hardest of the hardcorees. You know,

0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 1>Stardom finishing that high is gonna piss people off because

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:09.239
<v Speaker 1>they finish that high. But it's also going to piss

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:12.800
<v Speaker 1>people off because people think it finished too low. Because

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:15.760
<v Speaker 1>it is easy to argue if you're a consistent watcher

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:18.919
<v Speaker 1>of the product, that Stardom was the promotion of the year.

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 1>But people also have to remember this is also not

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 1>reflective upon everybody. It's just about I don't know, eight

0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 1>hundred to one thousand people who have their opinions on

0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:32.919
<v Speaker 1>what they like from last year. Well, I mean it's

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:35.920
<v Speaker 1>way more than that. I mean first first place, a

0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:38.879
<v Speaker 1>vote for best weekly TV shows, four thousand. You're looking

0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 1>at it, probably about six thousand people who voted in there,

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:44.799
<v Speaker 1>you go, whatever it is. Again, however many people are here,

0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:47.319
<v Speaker 1>it's still a small when you look at it, it's

0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:51.400
<v Speaker 1>a small percentage. And for people to bend themselves into

0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:56.640
<v Speaker 1>pretzels and being upset over this is just crazy to me.

0:34:56.840 --> 0:35:01.360
<v Speaker 1>But that's sometimes what people do. Well, you know, what

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 1>can you do? Boss? You know this? Uh? You know

0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 1>what upsets me if I got to complaint about an

0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 1>award is best weekly television show. N XT was was

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:14.359
<v Speaker 1>below Raw. I mean, come on, get out of here.

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 1>NXT certainly should not have won. I mean it absolutely

0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:22.800
<v Speaker 1>should not have won or even been close to. NXT

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 1>was better than Raw. Raw Raw under Vince was an atrocious,

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 1>atrocious show. I hated watching it. I dreaded watching it.

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:35.680
<v Speaker 1>It was the worst thing that I watched every single week.

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:40.880
<v Speaker 1>And NXT was undoubtedly a better show than Raw in

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two three hours, so it always has that

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 1>golden for it. And by the way, a Next got

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:53.320
<v Speaker 1>fifteen first place votes for best show. Uh huh, but

0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 1>the best show was Dynamite four thousand total vote, seven

0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:59.799
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty three first places vote SmackDown second place

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 1>and four first place of votes in eighteen hundred total votes.

0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 1>So you know, Dynamite won by a very very sizable margin.

0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 1>And I do believe that in twenty twenty two overall,

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:15.320
<v Speaker 1>the best show of the year was a EW Dynamite.

0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:17.839
<v Speaker 1>I think that a lot of people would not say

0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:21.800
<v Speaker 1>that right now, but certainly throughout the majority of twenty

0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:26.080
<v Speaker 1>twenty two. I think that's a that's a fair winner.

0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:32.280
<v Speaker 1>We had best match of the year Okada and Osprey

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 1>in the G one two thousand votes FTR and the Briscos.

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:39.839
<v Speaker 1>This was the Arlington, Texas match eighteen hundred. They also

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 1>got the fourth place for the Garland Texas match and

0:36:44.080 --> 0:36:46.320
<v Speaker 1>that's it. They did not place for the other match,

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:50.480
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, those were the and the third match Okada

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:53.640
<v Speaker 1>and Osprey at the Tokyo Dome show. So a lot

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:56.600
<v Speaker 1>of great matches over the year. I tell you a

0:36:56.640 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 1>couple more first place votes for one of those Bristos

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 1>matches as opposed to the other, and then may have

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 1>put him over the top when he came to total

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:06.880
<v Speaker 1>votes and everything, you know, total points and all that.

0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:10.960
<v Speaker 1>They were twelve first place votes away from beating Ocada

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:13.879
<v Speaker 1>and Osprey. Yeah, they had two hundred and forty four

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:17.239
<v Speaker 1>for the match in Arlington. In December, the match Russellmania

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Weekend in Garland, Texas had ninety eight first place votes,

0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:23.960
<v Speaker 1>so two of the four finished in the top four,

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:30.960
<v Speaker 1>and we had all of the local MVPs US and Canada.

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:36.600
<v Speaker 1>John Moxley ran away with it. Japan Okada, who beat

0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:42.399
<v Speaker 1>Osprey by eighty votes round eighty votes, four ninety five

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:48.160
<v Speaker 1>to four twenty two. Mexico MVP Eliodel. The kingo Europe

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:54.120
<v Speaker 1>MVP was will Osprey, which I guess I would think people,

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:56.200
<v Speaker 1>and I guess, you know, I guess people when you're voting,

0:37:56.920 --> 0:37:59.040
<v Speaker 1>and then well, a couple of more after the breakups

0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:22.319
<v Speaker 1>were lived. Nothing gives me that I won't I give

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 1>her the ventyl segment of the show. Brian Albarez here

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Wrestling Observer Live, Mike semperviv Els of Wrestling Observer dot Com.

0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:32.359
<v Speaker 1>A couple of final categories here Best Box Office Draw,

0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 1>which to this day, I still don't know why this

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:38.839
<v Speaker 1>is a category you vote on Roman rains one, Well,

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:41.440
<v Speaker 1>was he or not? What are we voting for? I

0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:44.279
<v Speaker 1>don't get it. A few to the year, FTR versus

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:49.759
<v Speaker 1>the Briscoes edged out seem Punk and MJF by less

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:52.799
<v Speaker 1>than twenty votes, so very very close there. Nothing else

0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:57.160
<v Speaker 1>came close Most Improved, which honestly I had not thought about.

0:38:57.640 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 1>But if you look at what people thought when they

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:03.799
<v Speaker 1>got the tag team title match at all out, and

0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:06.799
<v Speaker 1>then like how people viewed them the rest of the year,

0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 1>the acclaimed, I mean, night and day from what people

0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:14.320
<v Speaker 1>thought about them before and after they won those titles,

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 1>so I don't have to look at those stardom people

0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 1>out there. Yeah, she got close, she was within five votes,

0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:27.840
<v Speaker 1>and she improved dramatically. She did indeed, m JF Most Charismatic,

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 1>beating out Sammy Zane by almost double maybe double? Do

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I look like a mathematician? Bryan Danielson, he somehow won

0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 1>his own award what even Stokely Hathaway called shenanigans on

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:46.439
<v Speaker 1>that one. Maybe Stokely thought he should have won that award,

0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. And then the Best Brawler Award. John

0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:53.799
<v Speaker 1>Moxley won that award ran away with it. Yeah, even

0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 1>though he'd probably be upset he didn't get any votes

0:39:56.520 --> 0:40:00.800
<v Speaker 1>for Best Technical Wrestler, Best Flying Wrestler, Helio del Vi, Kingo,

0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Most Overrated, Rhonda Rousey, Most Underrated, Takeshta, and your Rookie

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:09.439
<v Speaker 1>of the Year, Your Future Wrestle Media made a Ventor

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:13.719
<v Speaker 1>is braun breaker. Everybody and anyway, we're out of time

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:16.839
<v Speaker 1>here today. But tonight, tonight, Dave and Garrett, I believe

0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:18.719
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be talking a lot about the awards We'll

0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:20.920
<v Speaker 1>be talking about them more over the next week or

0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:24.640
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