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And I think that's important 19 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 3: because in this day and age, there's a lot of 20 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 3: stuff where you get these I don't know, like these 21 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 3: look at me type takes where you know you're gonna 22 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 3: get a reaction and you know people are gonna eat 23 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 3: it up, and hey, that might be good on one 24 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 3: side in terms of, you know, your relevancy and maybe 25 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: your paycheck and all that stuff, but that might get 26 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 3: you further away from the truth. I never want to 27 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 3: stray so far away from the truth that I don't 28 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: understand what it even is, you know. So with the 29 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 3: Shador Sanders story, starting with the Browns on Friday night, 30 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: they're at the Carolina Panthers, it's a weird story. We'll 31 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 3: start with the depth chart was released a little bit 32 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 3: earlier this week. Chaduur is QB four. He's looking up 33 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 3: at Dylan Gabriel, another fellow rookie, Kenny Pickett, Joe Flacco. 34 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: So Shadur is QB four and at least for this 35 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 3: preseason game on Friday, he's QB one. Okay, it's not unprecedented, 36 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: but a little odd, little odd right there, So you 37 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 3: take that into account. Now, the audio I want to 38 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 3: play this could not be more different. The first piece 39 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 3: of audio you here is from ESPN's Lewis Riddick, and 40 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 3: he was on Get Up and he's got his view 41 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: on man Chadeur is in a really rough spot. And 42 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 3: then you'll hear from Mary Kay Cabot, who has covered 43 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 3: the Browns for a long long time, has done a 44 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: great job over the years, and their two opinions could 45 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 3: not differ more so. First, let's start with Lewis Riddick. 46 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 3: He's basically saying, like, man, what are the Browns doing here? Exactly? 47 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 3: Starting Shaduur. He hasn't gotten many reps. It's an uphill battle, 48 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 3: so forth and so on. Here's Lou and what he 49 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 3: says about you Door. 50 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 4: I'm afraid he's gonna get on the field in preseason 51 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 4: games without a lot of practice reps, and then they're 52 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 4: gonna ask him to perform these heroic tasks in order 53 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 4: to prove that he's worthy of being a starter when 54 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 4: he hasn't had enough reps to really get comfortable. That's 55 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 4: the kind of battle he's dealing with right now. 56 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: I know. 57 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 4: I've seen it, Tom, You've seen it. We've been in 58 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 4: these camps. We know how that goes. You don't get 59 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 4: enough reps. They play a whole half of a game 60 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, coaches are going, why 61 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 4: are you making that mistake? Why aren't you making that check? 62 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: Why are you. 63 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 4: Doing that technique? Well, damn, coach, I never was in 64 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 4: there in practice. You never even talked to me during practice, 65 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 4: but now you expect me to know. That's what they're 66 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 4: gonna expect of him. But if anyone can get it done, 67 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 4: it's this kid because he's been trained the right way. 68 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 4: But I'm telling you he is ice skating uphill. 69 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 5: He just is. 70 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 4: And every time you hear this organization talk, you get 71 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 4: that feel. 72 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 3: Hmm okay, interesting take. He's basically calling, you know, it 73 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: a setup. Maybe it's as far as sabotage right with 74 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: a little Beastie Boys reference right there. Now. This is 75 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 3: Mary Kay Cabot again has covered the Browns for a 76 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 3: long time. Listen to what she says about Shauldur starting 77 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: on Friday. 78 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 5: I do think that they are doing this the right 79 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 5: way with him and making sure that he is successful 80 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 5: as he comes up the learning curve, and they're flying 81 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 5: in the face of what everybody wants them to do. 82 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 5: But they have stuck to their guns and they're not 83 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 5: succumbing to media pressure and public pressure and fan pressure. 84 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 5: They're not doing that. They're doing what's right for Should Doure, 85 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 5: and people have to understand that they're doing what's right 86 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 5: for the football team and for Should. 87 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 3: Doure uh huh, Okay, like listen, I don't know. That 88 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,239 Speaker 3: might be her real opinion, that might be her real report. 89 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I just got to call it like I 90 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 3: see it. That just sounds like you're carrying the water 91 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 3: for the Cleveland Browns, does it? 92 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 5: Not? 93 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: That whole I don't know how long that was. That 94 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: was about twenty eight seconds from Mary Kay Cabot. If 95 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 3: you typed out every word she just said and you 96 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 3: handed it to the Browns organization and they proof read 97 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: it and they're like, okay, doing everything doing yep. They 98 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 3: they won't succumb to public pressure. That's right. All these 99 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 3: people are like, don't play Chador. They take an eat. No, no, no, no, 100 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 3: We're not gonna cave the public pressure out. We're gonna 101 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 3: play the guy. We're gonna do what's right. Yep, like it, 102 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 3: thumbs up and checking every box. That just seems like 103 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 3: the Browns would have signed off on everything she just said, 104 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 3: So it could not be more polar opposite views of 105 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: what's going on with the Browns and Shadeur Sanders. Here's 106 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 3: what I think. I think that I think that lou 107 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 3: Is onto a little something but took it too far. 108 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: That's what I think where Shador is in a tough spot. 109 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 3: Let's just cut to that point. Chador is in a 110 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 3: rough spot. Think about it. They've got five quarterbacks in 111 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 3: camp right now for the Browns. They signed Tyler Huntley 112 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 3: because Chaduur and Kenny Pickett, some of the quarterbacks are 113 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 3: dealing with injuries, so they signed another quarterback and they're 114 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 3: dividing up the reps even more. Saw a screenshot of 115 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 3: the reps in practice on Wednesday. They had stats for 116 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 3: five guys. They had all their I couldn't believe it. 117 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: The QB Tracker training camp on Wednesday, August sixth, Flacco 118 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: is eight for thirteen, Shaduur is four for seven, Pickett 119 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: is five for seven, and so forth and so on. 120 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 3: I can't do it. I can't break down all these numbers. 121 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 3: But the point is Shaduur Sanders is not getting a 122 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 3: ton of reps. He's not getting many reps with the 123 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 3: first string offense. That puts him in a rough spot 124 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 3: to start a game in the preseason. So let's just 125 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 3: recognize that before we go any further. Now, when lou 126 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 3: loses me, even though Shadur is skating uphill, he makes 127 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 3: it sound like that's what the organization wants. They want 128 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 3: to put him in a spot where he doesn't have 129 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 3: as much seasoning as he should. Maybe they throw him 130 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 3: in the deep end of the pool before he's ready, 131 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 3: and he's gonna have to do something heroic to earn 132 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 3: a starting job, or to earn more reps, to earn 133 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: more preseason starts. He's gonna have to do something that 134 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: he's probably not ready to do. And that's the position 135 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 3: that they want to put him in. They basically want 136 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 3: him to fail. That's what Lewis Riddick is saying. I 137 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: don't agree with that at all. I think some organizations 138 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 3: are just dumb. That's what I think. The truth is, 139 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: some organizations are just dumb. The Browns are the poster 140 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 3: child for a dumb organization. They've done so many dumb 141 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: things over the years. You know the famous jersey that 142 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 3: has all the names of all the failed quarterbacks throughout 143 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 3: the years. They've had a lot to do with those failures. 144 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 3: They've made a lot of horrible decisions. And I don't 145 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 3: think that they want Sanders to fail. What's the gain? 146 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 3: How do they benefit from that? That just doesn't make 147 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 3: any sense to me. I don't see how they gain 148 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 3: anything by doing that. I just think that they've got 149 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 3: this clunky situation where they have five quarterbacks in camp. 150 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 3: The reps are getting divided up. Instead of having fewer quarterbacks, 151 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: with more reps and you get more seasoning, right, more 152 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: training all. It's training camp, right, and they don't have 153 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 3: that for Shaduer. But it doesn't mean they want him 154 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 3: to fail. You could look at many other organizations and 155 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 3: say they did things pretty clunky. 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Okay, so now 172 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 3: he's talking about having career ending next surgery. All right, 173 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 3: that's the time frame that we're in. It stems back 174 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: to that time. And so listen to what he says 175 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: about the Packers' organization and how he thought they weren't 176 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 3: there for him at that time when he was gonna 177 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 3: have career ending next surgery. Here you go. 178 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 7: Here's the only thing that the Packers did that bothered me. Right, 179 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 7: Not one person called to say, how'd your surgery go? 180 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 7: Because they're fixing my spine. I could I could roll 181 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 7: out of there and never walk again. I could die 182 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 7: on the operating table. Not one person from the organization said, hey, 183 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 7: you know, how'd your surgery go? 184 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 3: Not the code. 185 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 7: Now, one person from the organization was like, hey, look man, god, 186 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 7: we'll pull them for you. You know, let us know 187 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 7: if you need anything. Not one person in the organization. 188 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 7: I don't think you understand that. Player, trainer, front office, cod, damn. 189 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 7: No one. That's the only thing that bothered me. Not 190 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 7: one player, not one player, And it was so funny 191 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 7: that I never thought about it until the Hall of 192 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 7: Fame happened. And when the Hall of Fame happened, Now 193 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 7: I start to hear from people in the organization, and 194 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 7: I'm saying to myself, how do I feel about that? 195 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 2: Honestly? 196 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 7: Like, you know what, when I is that my proverbial 197 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:06,599 Speaker 7: lowest never hurt me what you would perceive as my highest, 198 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 7: I really don't need to hear from me. 199 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 3: Wow, interesting stuff right where I get it from his 200 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 3: standpoint and listen, you had to condense that. It's like 201 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 3: a four minute thing. And so there are some bits 202 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 3: and pieces in there where Sterling Sharp is saying, hey, man, 203 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: I get it. It's the end of the season. Players 204 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 3: go their separate ways. The organization starts thinking about what's next. 205 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 3: What are we going to do in the off season, 206 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 3: what's our game plan? You know, we might have babies 207 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 3: that are being born, We're going on vacation here there, 208 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 3: like everybody just goes their separate ways. So he's like, 209 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 3: I get it. I get it to a degree. But 210 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 3: you can tell that that bothered him, and he would 211 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 3: say at times he's like, I'm not disappointed I'm not hurt, 212 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 3: and it's like, I think you are. I think and 213 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 3: you have a reason to be. I don't think there's 214 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 3: anything wrong with saying like, man, that was that was rough. 215 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 3: I didn't hear from one soul, not one person, And uh, 216 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: I just thought that was an interesting take. I had 217 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: to share that with you guys, because I guess that's 218 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 3: the broader version of this. 219 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 7: Is that. 220 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 3: It's I think it's hard for athletes to really buy 221 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: in to the team aspect when so many times the 222 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 3: business shows you that a lot of times you're just 223 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 3: on your own, you know what I'm saying, Like, that's 224 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 3: the bigger takeaway from this. How many times have you 225 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: heard players as like I didn't hear from my own 226 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 3: own organization that I was traded, that I was released. 227 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: I caught it on Twitter. I saw a tweet about it. 228 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 3: I saw it on Sports Center. They didn't even bother 229 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 3: to tell me I was released, had no clue like 230 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 3: stuff like that. How can you if that's on your resume, 231 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 3: that's you know, something that you've experienced along the way, 232 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 3: and you're on your new team. Now, how do you 233 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 3: fully buy in to team? Team, team, team, everything's team? 234 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 3: How many times do you hear, especially about the NFL, 235 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 3: it's a business. You hear that about pro sports all 236 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 3: the time, NBA, MLB, it's a business. There's some stuff 237 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 3: that's cutthroat, that as cold as it can be, Like, 238 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 3: how do you buy in? How do you not develop 239 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 3: this mentality of like, man, I got to look out 240 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 3: for myself first and foremost, cause that's what the business 241 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 3: does to you. It teaches you lessons the hard way. 242 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 3: And I feel like some organizations just get the simplest 243 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 3: thing things wrong. How do you not reach out to 244 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 3: Sterling Sharp? Not one person like, hey, bro, this is 245 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 3: next surgery, let us know if you need anything, just 246 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 3: wanted to check in? How'd everything go? 247 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 7: Not? 248 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 3: How do you get that wrong? And I'm sure everybody's 249 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 3: looking at everybody like man, one of us should checked in, 250 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 3: like a lot of you should have checked in. I 251 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 3: don't know how an organization messes up simple things. A 252 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: lot of it's just common decency, it's just common courtesy. 253 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 3: You know, if your friend was going in for next surgery, 254 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 3: you'd probably show that person that you cared in some way, 255 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 3: shape or form. Right, it's a simple thing. 256 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 8: Well, see, I have some thoughts on this, Brian. Okay, 257 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 8: And I'm glad you said that right there, because I 258 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 8: had not heard this sound clip before and listening to it. 259 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 8: And while I agree with the correlation that you're making 260 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 8: about teams kind of treating it way too much like 261 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 8: a business and you know, guys finding out that they 262 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 8: got traded through social media. I get that because with 263 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 8: things like that, like trades, there's only certain number of 264 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 8: people in the organization that know about it anyway, and 265 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 8: they're the ones. You know, it's a lot easier for 266 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 8: you know, four or five, six to you know, ten 267 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 8: guys to look at it like this is a business 268 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 8: and and you know, we got to keep this under 269 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 8: wrapped for whatever reason. But then when it comes to 270 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 8: what Sterling Sharp was saying in that SoundBite, my initial 271 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 8: reaction was one of two things. Either one, he's over 272 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 8: exaggerating and there was somebody that reached out to him, 273 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 8: or number two, he's an a hole, you know, like 274 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 8: how okay, because I would get maybe, you know, you 275 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 8: might want somebody from like some higher up in the 276 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 8: organization to reach out to you, the team president, GM, whatever, 277 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 8: and they might not and that might be cold. And 278 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 8: I can understand that happening. But he said not a 279 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 8: single person, not a trainer, not a teammate, nothing. So 280 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 8: he didn't cultivate any relationships while on the team to 281 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 8: where somebody would like reach out and know that he 282 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 8: was going into surgery that day. I think that says 283 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 8: more about him as a person, or or he's over 284 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 8: exaggerating and he's just not thinking of you know, the 285 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 8: equipment manager who actually did shoot him at text, you know, 286 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 8: like all right, yeah, I don't know. 287 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 3: No, I hear what you're saying. That would be funny 288 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 3: if you get all these X packers that were like, 289 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 3: what the hell is he talking about? I called him 290 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: four times before surgery after surgery. But the other part 291 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 3: of I'm trying to think of some of the like 292 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 3: all time a holes of the NFL. Right, like to 293 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 3: think of some players that had a REP that were 294 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 3: disliked by a lot of their teammates, Like whatever your 295 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 3: short list is, Aaron Rodgers comes to mind. Right. Not 296 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 3: every teammate is fond of Aaron Rodgers. He's been a 297 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 3: diva at times, you know, all that sort of stuff. 298 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 3: But not everybody is anti Rodgers. There are some dudes 299 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: that will ride and die with Aaron Rodgers, You know 300 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 3: what I mean. And I think that's the case for 301 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 3: a lot of people in the NFL, where certainly they 302 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 3: they ruffle feathers, they have their enemies, maybe even on 303 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 3: their own team they have they're detractors and all that's earned, 304 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 3: but typically not the entire organization is against you, like 305 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 3: a unified decision. Like, man, this freaking guy defines a 306 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 3: hole like he's walking. I just can't buy that. Sterling 307 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 3: Sharp was that guy. There isn't one person that's on 308 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 3: board to even a to the point where they're like 309 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 3: reaching out. He's having neck surgery, his career is over. 310 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 3: I just can't imagine he was that hard to get 311 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 3: along with and everyone was just nope, out on this guy, no, 312 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 3: thank you. I just don't think it rises to that level. Man, 313 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 3: that would be an extreme case of aholeness. If there 314 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 3: is such, you know a term, we'll just invent one 315 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 3: right there. But I get it, I get where while 316 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 3: your head went there, I just don't think that's the case. 317 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 8: Well, then then you just got to say that you know, 318 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 8: there's a couple one hundred people on the packers organization 319 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 8: that then they're all a holes, like not one reached out. 320 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 3: I think it's one. 321 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 8: I mean I guess, well, you know what we're talking 322 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 8: you know, nineteen ninety something, so I guess there wasn't 323 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 8: really it was, right, Well, that's true text messaging, Like, yeah, 324 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 8: they take that. 325 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 3: Into account, right, Yeah. The time period we're talking about 326 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 3: is like, yeah, this is pre cell phones. We're not texting, 327 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 3: we're not on Facebook, we're not dming. 328 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 329 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 3: It's just so so much easier to get in touch 330 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 3: with people. I mean, you can relate to this, right, 331 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 3: like a lot of people. You know, I'm a little 332 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 3: older than you, Coop, but you're old enough where when 333 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 3: the great school Year was over, you just went your 334 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 3: separate ways. 335 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, and you didn't. 336 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 3: Communicate with anyone until you were back at school with 337 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 3: them again. You didn't see them, They just weren't involved 338 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 3: in your lives at all, because that's just. 339 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 8: The time it was, right, might not even recognized them. 340 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, like if you were unless you were friends 341 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 3: and you were gonna hang out or see them that way, 342 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 3: you just didn't see or communicate with anyone until you 343 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 3: were physically together again back at school or whatever. Right, 344 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 3: So yeah, that part of it that does make some sense. 345 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 3: You did add have a house line, you know, you 346 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 3: could you could reach out to people even at that time. 347 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 3: But yeah, we are talking his career ended in nineteen 348 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 3: ninety four. That that's a much different day and age 349 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 3: than now with cell phones and social media and all 350 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 3: that good stuff. 351 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 352 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 8: So, I mean, you know what, I I didn't initially 353 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 8: take that into account with my with my take the 354 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 8: you know, having to actually call somebody on the phone 355 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 8: and either talk to them or you know, leave leave 356 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 8: a voicemail. 357 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 3: Yeah right, the old answering machines and all that. Sure, Yeah, 358 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 3: but you could have you could have done that. I 359 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 3: think what happened was, you know, the season ended, you 360 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 3: went your separate ways. Probably hearing this from Sterling Sharp, 361 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 3: I would bet Coop. I bet there are a lot 362 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 3: of people players, trainers, front office members, a part of 363 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 3: that packers organization that heard that and felt like, wow, 364 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 3: he's totally right. How did I not reach out? It's 365 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 3: a simple phone call, like hey man, thinking about you, 366 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 3: everything good post surgery. They're probably like, I should have 367 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 3: done that at least? What was I doing? Like, sometimes 368 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 3: you don't mean anything by it, and you just don't 369 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 3: do something you should do. I think that very easily 370 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 3: could have been the case. 371 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 8: No, I think you're right because I'm thinking about me 372 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 8: and my like if you know, putting those shoes on. 373 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 8: I I'm the type of person that will reach out. 374 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 8: But it's so easy to shoot a text message and 375 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 8: be like, hey, man, how's it going. Yeah, yeah, you 376 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 8: doing okay? But if I had to like actually call 377 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 8: and talk to them on the phone. 378 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 3: Right, I know, right, yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, no, no doubt. 379 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 3: But man, when you didn't even know what text messaging was, 380 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 3: you know, that's different to I can see now that 381 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 3: you're protext and talking, but when your only option was talking, 382 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 3: wasn't as bad, Like it was a pretty good option 383 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 3: at the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, I hate man, 384 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 3: interesting stuff there, but we'll see. I would love to 385 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 3: know if any former packers from that time, if they 386 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 3: make any statements, you know, just keep your your ears open, 387 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 3: eyes open. If anybody goes on a podcast or something 388 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 3: and says, yeah, he was right, man, I should have 389 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 3: reached out to him, like my bad on that. There 390 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 3: was a drop of the ball by me. But I 391 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 3: can understand why Sterling Sharp would would feel like that, 392 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 3: you know, what's funny too, last little layer I'll mention, 393 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 3: as guys, there's something in you that doesn't want to 394 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 3: be completely vulnerable. You could hear like I had to 395 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 3: whittle it down from four minutes, but it's it's littered 396 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 3: with not one person reached out. And then he'd be like, 397 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 3: I'm not mad. I mean I'm not even disappointed really, 398 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 3: and it's like, no, you are. You just don't want 399 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 3: to admit that because there's something in our DNA where 400 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 3: you just can't. You can't show vulnerability, you can't show weakness. 401 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 3: But it hurt him, and it's understandably so that it 402 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 3: hurt him. It's just hard to say that. It's it's 403 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 3: hard for guys to just be like, man, that really 404 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 3: hurt bad because he's just kind of like manly. It 405 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 3: doesn't even really bother me. Really, I han't thought about 406 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 3: it until the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Now, really, 407 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 3: I hadn't thought about that for like what thirty years 408 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 3: had crossed your mind one time? Okay, you know, but 409 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 3: hey man, that's a you got to you gotta read 410 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 3: through the guylines from time to time. 411 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maler Show. 412 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: Weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. 413 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 3: So I think this is a much needed change for 414 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bengals. They are going to play their starters, 415 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 3: uh maybe several reps Thursday night, you know, so a 416 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 3: little bit later today we get some NFL action. You'll 417 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,959 Speaker 3: see Joe Burrow out there. The head coach, Zach Taylor. 418 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 3: He talked about several series potentially for some of the starters. 419 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 3: So I don't know how much time they're gonna get, 420 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 3: but Joe Burrow is expected to play, some of the 421 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 3: ones are expected to play. And I think this makes 422 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 3: a lot of sense because what's the what's the bugaboo 423 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 3: with the Bengals, It's how slowly they start their notoriously 424 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 3: slow starters. They lost to the Patriots in Week one 425 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 3: last season. It was a big upset. It was Drod 426 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 3: Mayo's first game as a head coach. Like, Bengals are 427 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 3: huge home favorites and they lose, and the Patriots won 428 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 3: three more games the entire season, you know, and Jerrod 429 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 3: Mayo got fired. That team that fired their first year 430 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 3: head coach beat the Bengals in Week one, and Joe 431 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 3: Burrow in his career in weeks one and two. His 432 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 3: record is one and nine. That's what he is weeks 433 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 3: one and two in his NFL career. That is stunning. 434 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 3: That is alarmingly low for a guy that's had as 435 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 3: much success as Joe Burrow has had in the NFL. 436 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 3: And the numbers, like you see some of these graphics 437 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 3: that they put up there, and it's just like, holy cow, 438 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 3: is passer ratings way lower. We're talking like twenty three 439 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 3: points lower in weeks one and two compared to weeks 440 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 3: that are not one in two, right like weeks three 441 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 3: through eighteen, his passer rating is one oh four point five. 442 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 3: His passer rating weeks one and two eighty one point nine. 443 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 3: And then touchdowns, interceptions, completion percentage, all that stuff. Yardsburg 444 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 3: game like, there's something too Joe Burrow and the Bengals 445 00:24:55,200 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 3: starters not playing in the preseason. So what's the definition 446 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 3: of insanity like doing the same thing over and over 447 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 3: and expecting a different result. If the Bengals are just like, yeah, 448 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 3: let's just keep not playing our starters in the preseason, 449 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 3: and well, I mean, hopefully we'll just magically get off 450 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,479 Speaker 3: to a better start, even though we suck year in 451 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 3: and year out in the first two weeks of the season. 452 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 3: It's like, you could either do that or I don't know, 453 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 3: maybe play your starters a little bit more in the preseason. 454 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 3: Maybe you're able to hit the ground running when the 455 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 3: regular season rolls around. I do think there's something to it. 456 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 3: I just don't I don't buy that there's zero value 457 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: whatsoever with playing your starters in the preseason. I think 458 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 3: it's swung too far in that direction. I mentioned this 459 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 3: last night. The Chiefs. They play their starters like Mahomes 460 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 3: he plays in the preseason. If there was no value whatsoever, 461 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 3: why on earth would Andy Reid have his starters on 462 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 3: the field. He has him on the field because there 463 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 3: is some value. I don't want to oversell it and 464 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 3: make it sound like, hey, if you don't play your 465 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 3: starters in the preseason, your season is doomed. Your destined 466 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 3: to get off to a slow start. I'm not saying that. 467 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 3: But for a team like the Bengals, who have notoriously 468 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 3: started slowly for years now, it's like, why don't you 469 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 3: try it, Why don't you try a different approach, Play 470 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 3: the ones more often in the preseason, and maybe that 471 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 3: can have a positive effect with not starting as slowly 472 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 3: when the regular season rolls around. I think that makes 473 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 3: a ton of sense. So Joe Burrow and the other starters, 474 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 3: maybe several series on Thursday night, the preseason opener at 475 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 3: the Eagles. Get the Bengals and Eagles on Thursday nights, 476 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 3: So hey, man, sign me up if the starters are playing. 477 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 3: I love getting a little taste of the starters a 478 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 3: series or two. Just see him again, you know, see 479 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 3: what they're looking like. Does anybody flash. They're not game planning, 480 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 3: so I'm not gonna read too deeply into it, but 481 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 3: every now and then a starter will flash, and it's like, oh, okay, 482 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 3: all right, that's something to take away the golden rule 483 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 3: of preseason, like who's on the field, Like how many 484 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 3: starters are there? Let's not overreact. If it's the starting 485 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 3: offense against the backup defense, that's a it's an easy 486 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 3: overreaction right there, right. But I also think that some 487 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 3: things translate to the regular season, even if you are 488 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 3: facing backups. Every now and then, there's a certain scenario. 489 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 3: I'll give you one. So Amari and Hampton is a 490 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 3: rookie running back for the Chargers. He played in the 491 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame Game. Just got a couple of rushes 492 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 3: and it was against mostly the Lions backup defense, so 493 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 3: you might think, oh, who cares he's facing backups. I 494 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 3: don't think everything is that clear cut. My brief spiel 495 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 3: on the preseason and okay, it depends. It's case by case. 496 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 3: If there's a number one wide receiver and he blows 497 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 3: by like a number two, number three cornerback, and the 498 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 3: quarterback's like, all right, my guy's opened by five steps. 499 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 3: Like that's not going to translate to the regular season. 500 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 3: That's not the NFL. We all know that, and that 501 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 3: does happen in the preseason. And when people fall for that, 502 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my gosh, what are you doing? But 503 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 3: Amari and Hampton he had one carry in particular against 504 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 3: the Lions, and you you just tell the guys got burst, 505 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 3: he's got feel, he's got some juice. It was just 506 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 3: like this inside running play. They just kind of bounced 507 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 3: it outside and he found the opening, found the daylight 508 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 3: and got everything he could get. It was a good 509 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 3: rush and some of it's you know, connected to his 510 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 3: time at North Carolina and he had juice. Man Omarion 511 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 3: Hampton is legit. I think he's a really good running back. 512 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 3: But stuff like that, even against mostly backups, there are 513 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 3: times where you're like, Okay, yeah, that's gonna translate, that's 514 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 3: gonna work. So yeah, I do enjoy watching the preseason, 515 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 3: but man, when it gets to like backups against backups, 516 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 3: or the backups of the backups versus the backups of 517 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 3: the backups, that it's like, okay, all right, this is 518 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 3: a little rough. But when you get the starters in there, yeah, 519 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 3: sign me up. 520 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 7: Man. 521 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 3: Might see a little bit of Bengal starters, including Joe 522 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 3: Burrow on Thursday night. I'll be checking that out.