1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,439 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks DJ, Buck 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: with you, Buck? What's going on? Man? 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: Man? You know what it is? DJ is a rat 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: race of the final month leading into the draft. So 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: you know everything's kind of crazy chat. 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt it's It's definitely that that time of 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 3: year where stuff is flying around which can get you 9 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 3: some hot rumors, which is a good time to get 10 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 3: us too. It's time for Hot or Not brought to 11 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 3: you by with Sabby Hot Cloud Storage. Let's jump in 12 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 3: right out out the gate here, Buck, because we've been 13 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 3: talking to a bunch of people. It's kind of finishing 14 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 3: up doing a lot of non combined guys like pop 15 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 3: up guys, pro day guys that you know, chasing ghost 16 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 3: as we like to. 17 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 2: Call it during this time. 18 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 3: Yes, but mix in a lot of conversations and some 19 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: of the things you heard in those conversations kind of 20 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 3: perk you perk you up a little bit. And so 21 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 3: this is one thing I want to get your take on. 22 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 3: If we take Travis Hunter put him to the side. 23 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 24 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: This was uh the uh this. 25 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: I heard this from one guy, and I brought it 26 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 3: up with a couple other people and they did not 27 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 3: poop poo it. He said, if we say Travis Hunter's 28 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: out of the way, they're only going to be one 29 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 3: wide receiver going the first round. 30 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: I can believe that. 31 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 3: I mean, but Buck like this is we talked about 32 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 3: this on episodes ago on average five point six one. Like, 33 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 3: I guess if we you know, Travis would make it 34 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 3: two technically, I guess if he's you know, gonna be 35 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 3: majoring on that side of the ball. But I mean, 36 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 3: I and I don't disagree with it. I said, I 37 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: think that's possible. I don't think that will happen. I 38 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 3: think we will get you know, I think a Buka 39 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 3: Golden you know, McMillan. I think that between those three guys, 40 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: I think we see two of them. 41 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: Go at least, if not three. 42 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 3: But there's a chance that everybody sits it out. 43 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: Uh did you? I believe it? So who is the 44 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: wide receiver that you look at that has the wow 45 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: factor that you're like, I gotta have them, and in 46 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: this class we're lacking that. Previous years, when we talked 47 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: about the first round guys, there was a wild a 48 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: sizzle factor that you were like, okay, like I did 49 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: it justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, even DeVante Smith was coming 50 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: off a Heisman trophy. I mean, there were a lot 51 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: of guys that were drafted that had the sizzle. This 52 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: year there is not the sizzle. We're excited about Matthew Golden. 53 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: But when we look at Matthew Golden and an honest assessment, 54 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: if Matthew Golden is wide receiver one, why didn't they 55 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: treat them like wide receiver one at Texas? So it 56 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: leaves you wondering, like, that's that's odd. Abuka is really good, 57 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: really solid all around. But he's solid all around, high 58 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: end player, solid Ted McMillan, there's some things where we 59 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: want more urgency. We certainly don't like the comments that 60 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: have come to surface about not loving ball and not 61 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: watching tape like that doesn't help anything. So now when 62 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: we talk about the three top guys excluding Travis, they're 63 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: all enough questions to make you be like, you know, 64 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: maybe I'll go back and get it in the second round. 65 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: I think that's the difference. The other guys had real 66 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 1: live pop. We're not seeing not seeing wide receivers. We 67 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: do real pop right now. 68 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 3: So here's the other side of the argument. And this 69 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 3: is from the third person that I talked to who 70 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 3: pushed back on it. And that's why I want to 71 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 3: have this chat with you because he said, yeah, but 72 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: he said, you realize two things. Look what the receiver 73 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 3: number costs right now, Like, look at how much how 74 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: expensive it is to pay for receivers. And number two, 75 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 3: quality receivers don't get the market anymore. They don't get 76 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 3: to the market. Because I was having a conversation with 77 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: a team about a scenario where I said, if you 78 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: had this wide receiver there and this defensive tackle there, 79 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: similarly great players for me, And I told him how 80 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 3: I had them. 81 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: But I was like, I curious how you would stack 82 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: those two guys. 83 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 3: And he was like, well, I mean if we needed 84 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 3: a defensive tackle and free agency, like there's going to 85 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 3: be one out there every year that we can plug 86 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 3: and play. He's like, receiver, if none of them get 87 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 3: to the market, and if any of the top tier 88 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 3: guys get close to the market, you're thirty million dollar dudes. 89 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 3: Like the number is so high. He's like, so because 90 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 3: of that, I think there's more value in taking the 91 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: receiver because because of that reason, that was his pushback 92 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: on that. 93 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: My only thing about that is I worry about getting 94 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: too cute trying to approximate value with talent, Like it's 95 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: cool that we value the position and we want to 96 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: get the fifth year option and free agents aren't coming 97 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: to market. But at the same time, DJ, the expectations 98 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: are the expectations when it comes to a first round pick. 99 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: If you take someone in the first round, you expect 100 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: them to have a level of talent production and consistency 101 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: that is conmiserable with being picked. When they're picked, I 102 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: worry about taking someone for the sake of being able 103 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: to secure their services for five six years without them 104 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: ever showing the talent nor the projection to live up 105 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: to what we expect from a first round player. 106 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a I think it's a valid 107 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 3: pushback on that. I think it's I just wanted to 108 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 3: have that conversation because I think it's one of those 109 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 3: interesting debates that that's that's kind of raging out there. 110 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 3: Let me give you, let me give you another one, 111 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: because there's a couple of different conversations I've been having 112 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 3: that I'm curious to get your take on talking about 113 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 3: the ceiling floor. A lot of times we just do 114 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: that with quarterbacks, but we don't necessarily always do that 115 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 3: with other positions. So there was a couple of players 116 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 3: and I was going through it, and UH was looking 117 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: at and this is an interesting one, the discussion between 118 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 3: the defensive tackles with Kenneth Grant and Walter Nolan. That one, 119 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 3: that one's a fascinating one to me, but I do 120 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 3: think it's gonna be somewhat scheme specific in terms of 121 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 3: what you want your guys to do, and Nolan's more 122 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 3: of a pure three technique. Kenneth Grant I think, could 123 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 3: you know, could play some three because he's so you know, 124 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 3: he's so big and athletic, but he's you're gonna want 125 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 3: him more shade in the center. So a little bit 126 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 3: different in terms of their usage. But you've got Walter Nolan, 127 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 3: who I think kind of knows how to win as 128 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 3: a rusher and has got that upfield ability versus the 129 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 3: other guy who's so intriguing because he's three hundred and 130 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: thirty pounds and it's still kind of all coming together 131 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 3: for him. But that, like those are the kind of 132 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 3: debates and discussion. That's what's going on in rooms right now, in. 133 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: That debate where you're talking about Nolan, ingrant to me, 134 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm always going to offer the pass rusher over the 135 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: run stopper. We have said for years that this is 136 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: a passing league, and no matter how dominant you are, 137 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: stopping to run on first and second down, that knows tackle, 138 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: that defensive tackle that is strictly a plugger, he offers 139 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: no value when it comes down to winning time. Winning time, 140 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: Typically it is a passing situation. The quarterback has to 141 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: get it done. The pocket pusher gives you nothing. Walter, 142 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: Nolan in this scenario gives me an opportunity to keep 143 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: him on the field in those crucial moments. So if 144 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: I'm making a decision, yeah, I'm gonna go with a 145 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: guy who has an interior pass rush presence over the 146 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: guy that is heavily tilted tours being a run stopper. 147 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: Now saying they Grant can do it, but he's a 148 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: run stopper first pass rusher. Second. I think Nolan has 149 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: the opportunity to be a pass rusher, first run stopper secondary. 150 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 151 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 3: It's that's a valid it's a valid argument and a 152 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 3: good way to look at it. I think there's more. 153 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: I think Kenneth Grant has a chance. I mean just 154 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 3: because of you know, Dexter was a higher, higher graded 155 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 3: player coming into the process, but you've seen him continue 156 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 3: to grow and get better as a pass rusher throughout 157 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 3: his career. So I think that's what you're hoping, that's 158 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 3: what you're hoping for there in that situation. But let 159 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: me let me jam through a couple more of these 160 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: bucking and uh, just full transparency here, Buck's got to do. 161 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: Who we got today? 162 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: You got Jalen Yeah, I got a little get a 163 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: little one on one interview with Jalen Walker for Paths 164 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: to the Draft, So I got that coming up in 165 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: twenty minutes. 166 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll we're kind of jamming through. 167 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 3: I'll get through as much of this as I can 168 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 3: with Buck, and then I'll finish up on the solo front. 169 00:07:55,960 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 3: But a couple other interesting ones. Where'd you come down on, Uh, 170 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 3: Tyler Booker great Zabel. 171 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: Mmm, I am Tyler Booker. I mean Tyler Booker's camp 172 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: in that debate and the reason why I feel like 173 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: he's dominant at what he does. I feel like he 174 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: is a tempo setter, a dominant uh maler brawl that 175 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: he's going to enhance your running game. He's going to 176 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: add a little toughness. I love Zabel's value. I like 177 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: the fact that he is a multi positional player. I 178 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: feel like you can plug him into one of three 179 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: spots and he can start. Uh But to me, in 180 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: leaning towards like the more physical player of the two, 181 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: I would go Booker over Zabel. 182 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 2: In the debate, Yeah, I ended up with the same. 183 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: I just think with Booker. 184 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 3: First of all, I love Zabel and Zabel's got all 185 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 3: the you know, five position flex and it has been 186 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 3: great through the whole offseason. Everything else, I've seen Booker 187 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 3: go up against better players. I hate to use that 188 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 3: as the as the reason, but I've seen him perform 189 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: well against some NFL dudes, a bunch a lot of 190 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 3: NFL guys, and he's going to give me a firm 191 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 3: pocket and in a gap scheme, he's going to be 192 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 3: able to displace people and move people. Now, if I'm 193 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 3: an outside zone heavy team and I want to be 194 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 3: out in space and running and moving, then I probably 195 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: would go the other way. But that's the trick when 196 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 3: you're doing this on our side, without a team and 197 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 3: a scheme, you got to go with kind of you 198 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 3: know what works there. And to me, I know, man, 199 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 3: just get the right fit for this dude, and I 200 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 3: think he's got a chance to be a you know, 201 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 3: a Pro Bowl player early, like early in his career. 202 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: Now, I mean, I'm with you and Ded like, I 203 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: think it is about the right fit. And that's eighty 204 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: five percent of players we talked about being system players. 205 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: It's really important that they are matched with a system 206 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: that enhances what they do really really well. The only 207 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: about fifteen percent of players in the draft class in 208 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: the league that can come in. It doesn't matter what 209 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: they do, they're going to be transcendent enough to be 210 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: able to dominate. So yeah, fit in scheme is everything, 211 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: and I think with Booker in particular, the scheme is Look, 212 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: it's really important. 213 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Next one, Mason Taylor from me. 214 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: I did my updated top fifty. 215 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 3: He's my last thirty second player, so I'm I just 216 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 3: at some point time I was like, we'll just put 217 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 3: him in the top thirty two players. I think he's 218 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 3: the grade wise the way he reads what I saw 219 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 3: at the Senior Bowl, how he moved around at the 220 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 3: Pro day, he ran the four to sixes. So the 221 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 3: speed thing's fine. All the information people know we've got. 222 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 3: You know, we've got good relationships there at LSU. We're 223 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 3: dialed in there so to get the feedback and background 224 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 3: I've got on him there. You know, dad and uncle 225 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 3: are Hall of famers. That doesn't hurt. So he's my 226 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 3: thirty second player. But my question is the Philadelphi Eagles, 227 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 3: by all accounts, trying to move Dallas Goddard. I know 228 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 3: how he always likes to go big if he can. 229 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 3: He's drafted some receivers in the first round last year. 230 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 3: They took a corner in Quinna and Mitchell, you know, 231 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 3: but preferred to go big guys. But when you're picking 232 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 3: thirty two and you're going to send your tight end 233 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 3: potentially out the door and Dallas Goddard, I'm looking at 234 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 3: that going that makes a lot of sense for them. 235 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 3: Man Mason Taylor to the Eagles. 236 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this. I heard how we recently on 237 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: a podcast and his insight is so great in terms 238 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: of being on the front end of it. And I 239 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: heard how we also talk about how they didn't handle 240 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl the right way. In previous years, like 241 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: they held on to guys for too long, they were 242 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: a little nostalgic and sentimental. I think he has definitely 243 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 1: moved past that. He's used it as a learning experience 244 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: to move on from guys that are older because he 245 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: wants to retain a younger core who has several prominent 246 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: pieces that need to get paid, and the only way 247 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: to do that is to move those guys out and 248 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: to use the draft as a vehicle to upgrade the 249 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: talent while keeping it at a team friendly costs. If 250 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: Mason Taylor's to pick for them at thirty two, it 251 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: gives them a first round player for five years, someone 252 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: who I believe is a complete wide tied end. Look, 253 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: I think the bloodlines, the legacy, all those things. Jason Taylor, 254 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: Zach Thomas, that's torrific. He knows what the family business is. 255 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 1: But then the player that we see on the field, 256 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: there's not much that he can't do. DJ. Yeah, bottom 257 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: of the first round. Mason Taylor could be the third 258 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: tied end to come off the board, particularly when we're 259 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: talking about wide receivers not being worthy. I would rather 260 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: take someone in the first round that has a Greade 261 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: worthy of being selected there than to stretch and put 262 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: somebody in the first round who's not really a first 263 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: round player. 264 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 3: I'd also probably put that pickup for sale too and 265 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 3: say if anybody does want to come back in for 266 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: a quarterback, if that's a possibility there, hey, I can 267 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 3: slide back. Maybe I can get Mason Taylor a couple 268 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 3: slots later. But to me, I'm just going through this. 269 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 3: I'm looking at teams and starting to hone in on 270 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 3: needs and what can go down, and I'm like, you 271 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: know what that one, That one makes quite a bit 272 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 3: of sense there. So anyways, those are some of the 273 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 3: hot button issues I wanted to hit on. That was 274 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 3: this week's Hot or Not segment, brought to you by 275 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 3: with Sabi Hot Cloud Storage, store more and do more 276 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 3: with your data. Try them for free at Withsabi dot com. 277 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 3: Take a quick break and we'll be right back, all right, Buck, 278 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 3: I do want to hit you on one news item 279 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 3: here before I know you got to run here? What 280 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 3: do you think on Milton? The Milton trade to the 281 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys from the Patriots. 282 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: Interesting? Interesting only in terms of you know that. Okay, 283 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: So for disclosure, Elliott Wolf is the son of Romwolf. 284 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: Ronwolf was a general manager for the Green Bay Packers 285 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: when I was taken there. Ronwolf, I would give a 286 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: lot of credit for not only extending my playing career, 287 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: but piquing my interest in the scouting game. One of 288 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: the things that Ronwolf always did is every year, every 289 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: other year, they believed in drafting a quarterback. You can 290 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: go back and look at the drafts from the mid 291 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: nineties to the mid two thousands, they always took a quarterback, 292 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: and so many times they flipped those quarterbacks into trade 293 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: commodities they then brought back stuff. Elliott Wolf has just 294 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: done the same thing and giving a preview, a little snapshot, 295 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: glimpse of what Joe Milton can do in the preseason. 296 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: Super talented, great athlete, all of those things, they were 297 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: able to get some currency back and they didn't even 298 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: have to really play him. He mopped up a game, 299 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: he showed up in preseason, and here they're able to 300 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: parlay it. To me, it's a little bit about Joe 301 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: Milton and what the Cowboys maybe seek comparing him to 302 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: what is available in the quarterback class. I think that 303 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: kind of speaks to that that they rated Joe Milton 304 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: versus the quarterbacks that could be available for them day two, 305 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: Day three. They want a viable backup. But also it's 306 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: the foresight to be like, oh no, no, no, we're always 307 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: in the quarterback business because it is such a valuable thing, 308 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: something that our buddy Howie Roseman has seen Andy Reid 309 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: do so successfully. To me, DJ, it's always smart to 310 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: get a quarterback, develop a young quarterback, and then let 311 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: the league tell us what you think of our quarterback 312 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: because a lot of times it ends up bringing back 313 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: stuff to you that can be good to help you 314 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: get another piece of the puzzle when you're trying to 315 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: build a championship team. 316 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was you know, we've seen this numerous 317 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 3: times where teams have at least gotten some value. Obviously, 318 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 3: the the Washington Commanders got value on the field with 319 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins after they took RG three and then Kirk Cousins, 320 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 3: you know, the injuries RG three, Kirk Cousins gets his opportunity. 321 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins end up eventually winning that job. But there 322 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 3: is you know, there is opportunities there to take guys 323 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 3: later on in the draft, and it's sometimes it's insurance. 324 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 3: Sometimes you can get those guys on the field. And 325 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 3: other times, what we just saw with the Dallas Cowboys 326 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 3: making this move here the Patriots, they were rewarded by 327 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 3: being able to spend that off into a trade. So 328 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 3: I'm kind of with you on you know, to me, 329 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 3: I think I would do it in the I would say, 330 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: in the sixth or seventh round every year, I'm going 331 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 3: to take one, you know, just just a flyer, just 332 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 3: gonna take up maybe trade back in the third, fourth round. 333 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 3: I'm get a little bonus, a little sugar there in 334 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 3: the six or seventh. Then I'm just gonna take a 335 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 3: flyer every time. 336 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: DJ if we in the quarterback business, like why not? 337 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: People laughed at Howie and Doug Peterson was the head 338 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: coach at the time in Philly when they said, hey, 339 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: we want to build and have a quarterback factory. But 340 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: why wouldn't you Why wouldn't you want to? 341 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 3: That was said after taking Jalen Hurts and they got 342 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 3: a lot of grief. R They got a lot with 343 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 3: Carson Wentz there, they got a lot of grief. 344 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: It worked out, It worked out very well for them, 345 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: and I think more teams have to treat that position 346 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: as man, this is the big joker in a game 347 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: of space. This is the one that can parlay and 348 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: bring it back multiple times. If you can find a quarterback, 349 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: if you can develop the quarterback and showcase the quarterback 350 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: in a preseason game or even a regular season game, 351 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: gives you an opportunity to bring a whole lot of 352 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: things back. So makes sense to me. I think about 353 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins and the career that he's had. When the 354 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: Washington football team double down, take an RG three and 355 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins the same draft class, you should expand a 356 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: Day three pick on a quarterback just to see and 357 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: you can determine whether it's someone with tools and trades, 358 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: which is what Joe Milton is, which also DJ would 359 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: tell me I might get into Jailen Milroe game. 360 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 3: I know, I knew Milinroe is gonna come up. I'm 361 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 3: telling you I talked to a team. Now this is sorry, 362 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 3: I should refraence. 363 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: I talked to. 364 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 3: Someone very connected with the team who told me said team, 365 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 3: and I'll tell you off the air, but said team 366 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 3: was a was a Milroe team, and it might be 367 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 3: earlier than you think, like like second round. 368 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I can see that. So there are two 369 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: guys that I would put in this category tools category. 370 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: It's Mill Roe and then I'll say Tyler Shill would 371 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: be one that when you're taking him, you're taking them 372 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: just because of the tools and you're hoping it works out. 373 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: You're not taking them with a direct connection that they're 374 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: going to be the starter for your team. But I 375 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: want to experiment and kind of see what they could be. 376 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: To me. That makes it so. Look when I see 377 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: Joe Milton go, I am confident, boldly confident, Jayleen Mlbro's 378 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,239 Speaker 1: gonna go, He's gonna go hired, and people think and 379 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a gas the tools DJ. 380 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like baseball. 381 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: We're drafting on the tools, not the performance in a production, 382 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: but the projection based on the tools. 383 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 3: That's why I said we were talking about this previously 384 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 3: from a baseball standpoint. His run tool is the loudest 385 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 3: tool of any quarterback in the draft. Like his ability 386 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 3: to run is better than anybody else's ability to do 387 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 3: anything else at that quarterback position. Get out of here, Buck, 388 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 3: You've got Jalen Walker, Go interview him. I'm gonna I'm 389 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 3: gonna get into some top fifty stuff here, but I'll 390 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 3: catch up with you. 391 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 2: We'll be back again soon. Man, go go to work. 392 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 2: You got a date. 393 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go to work and we are 394 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: gonna talk about the Top fifty. Because I learned a 395 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: lot watching you kind of move up the way. I 396 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: was like, oh, DJ finally was like, you know what, 397 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about the noise. I'm gonna go ahead 398 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: and make the move. And I saw that. 399 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: By the way. 400 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 3: By the way, my phone agents the day after the 401 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 3: Top fifty comes out a lot of incoming, a. 402 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: Lot of what's going on? Where's what are you hearing? 403 00:18:59,400 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 1: What you hear? 404 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, anyway, I'll explain you. Get out of here, 405 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 2: go to jail. 406 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: Last thing, last thing before you can do that. As 407 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: a rocker moving up, walk walker, Nolan moving up. I 408 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: think Jackson Dark moved up. There's somebody else, Oh, Benjamin 409 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: Morrison moving up to me. I think it's less about 410 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: them moving up and more about you saw them one way. 411 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: Then we feel like we do this full. 412 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 2: Circle thing all the way back around. 413 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: Hold up, let me trust the tape. So we're talking 414 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: about next time on the pot, all. 415 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 3: Right, see Bud there goes Bucky. You mentionined some of 416 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 3: those names. I'll give you some of the other movers here. 417 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 3: From the update on the top fifty, Nick amm and 418 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 3: Warri moved up four spots. The big physical safety from 419 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 3: South Carolina. He's up to fifteen for me. And again 420 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 3: in a draft where I don't know there's a lot 421 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 3: of sure things, I feel like I know exactly what 422 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 3: I'm getting with him as a big, physical athletic down 423 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 3: in the box safety. He could be a nickel backer. 424 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 3: You can blitz him. He can he can buzz underneath 425 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 3: uh and makes plays in the ball And I just 426 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 3: think he's a really really talented chess piece to have there. 427 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 3: Minnesota with him is the team I keep kind of 428 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 3: coming back to, is that would just be that would 429 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 3: be a fun piece there in that defense there in 430 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 3: Minnesota with Robert Flores. All right, let's uh sorry, Brian Flores. 431 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 3: Robert Flores baseball tonight, I want to say Brian Flores. 432 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 3: Donovanizeraku Buck mentioned him. He goes up five spots to 433 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 3: twenty five. The league is split on him there. I 434 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 3: think I'm a little high. I have him at twenty five. 435 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 3: I think I'm a little higher than most of the 436 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 3: league on him. There's people that, you know, question his power, 437 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 3: his bend. I was comfortable. I think the guy's just 438 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 3: a natural pass rusher. So I'm a little bit higher 439 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 3: on him than the consensus around the league. Walter Nolan 440 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 3: Buck mentioned he goes up to number twenty eight, I 441 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 3: think he's going to be long gone by then. You know, 442 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 3: he's again he's just really really talented and getting the 443 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 3: temperature of the league. He's someone I think he's got 444 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 3: a chance to go significantly higher than that. Mason Taylor aforementioned, 445 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 3: he's thirty two now, Jackson Dart just moved up to 446 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 3: a few spots. He was forty. He goes to thirty six, 447 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 3: and then Benjamin Morrison, you know, coming off the injury, 448 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 3: so he hasn't had a healthy process. But someone who's 449 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 3: to me is a really really gifted player. You go 450 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 3: back and watch him when he plays, when he's healthy. 451 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 3: There's a lot to like about him and with him. 452 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 3: The makeup, elite, elite, elite makeup. And I love the 453 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 3: fact that, you know, we got some smaller corners and 454 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 3: he's you know, he's over six foot, he's one hundred 455 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 3: and ninety three pounds, so he's got some size to him, 456 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 3: which I love. So tho, those are some of the 457 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 3: movers and shakers there on the top fifty list. All right, 458 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 3: well that's it. That's going to do it for us today. 459 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 3: A little bit of a quicker show again. We'll kind 460 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 3: of running all over the place during this time of year. 461 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 3: Bucks got a little path to the draft. I've got 462 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 3: forties and free agents coming up with Rosenthal, So be 463 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 3: on the lookout for that episode, which will drop soon 464 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 3: as well. So appreciate you guys. We'll see you next 465 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 3: time right here on of the sticks.