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Speaker 2: The John Anick and Kenny Florian Podcast from John Annick

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Speaker 2: and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I love him.

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Speaker 4: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 5: Job Duffian Pregner.

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Speaker 6: Out there are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 2: You're your hosts, John Annick and Kenny.

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Speaker 7: Florid im mute to my mic, Sorry about that. I

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Speaker 7: love the Boston Garden rap, but where is my new music?

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Speaker 7: Thanks for the coffee, Boston and alongside here in Las

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Speaker 7: Vegas where it is seven fifty four am Pacific, just

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Speaker 7: before eleven am Eastern. It is Monday, December eight, twenty

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Speaker 7: twenty five, Episode five seventy eight of the End Comploring Podcast.

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Speaker 5: Today's episode is brought to you by Draft Kings. Draft Kings.

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Speaker 5: The Crown is yours.

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Speaker 7: I came to ken Phone twenty fifteen to start a

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Speaker 7: podcast so that we could recap these pay per views

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Speaker 7: and so I could get some things off my chest

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Speaker 7: after live events like this, and of course after UFC

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Speaker 7: three twenty three, there was so much to talk about.

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Speaker 7: We'll get into all of that Ray Longo coming up

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Speaker 7: in thirty five minutes. We'll also have predictions for UFC

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Speaker 7: Fight Night, Roy vol versus Cop coming up at the

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Speaker 7: Ufcapex this weekend to close out the UFC schedule four

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Speaker 7: twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 5: Cody hopefully we'll have the new music.

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Speaker 7: In twenty twenty six, he says, Okay, yeah, that makes

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Speaker 7: some sense, Okay, all right, So my gosh, Kenny, my gosh,

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Speaker 7: the sport of mixed martial arts, right. There are certain

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Speaker 7: times you and I were in Brisbane, Australia, December seventh,

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Speaker 7: twenty thirteen, Mark Hunt Antonio Bigfoot Silva heavyweight main event,

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Speaker 7: one of the greatest heavyweight fights of all time in

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Speaker 7: the UFC, and I remember thinking, in the early morning

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Speaker 7: hours in Australia, I hope people in the States are

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Speaker 7: watching this, because, my goodness, if you're an American football

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Speaker 7: you're missing out. And my gosh, man, I hope people

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Speaker 7: were watching UFC three twenty three because Kenny, top to bottom,

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Speaker 7: it was a fairly epic live event, and you could

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Speaker 7: argue it is the best numbered card of twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: It was an amazing card, and man, is it a

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Speaker 1: cruel mistress just trying to predict what the heck is

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Speaker 1: just another reminder that no matter how much analysis you

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Speaker 1: do or what you watch, what you think you've seen,

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Speaker 1: MMA will always throw a curveball your way, or maybe

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Speaker 1: a few curveballs your way. But yeah, Saturday night was

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Speaker 1: no exception, and it was a trendous night in regards

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Speaker 7: We are going to lead the show with positivity and

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Speaker 7: Pyodrion in about sixty seconds. But Kenny, most of my

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Speaker 7: thoughts yesterday as I was watching the NFL and getting

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Speaker 7: ready to shoot this UFC resolution show that I'm actually

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Speaker 7: shooting here in a couple of hours. All I've been

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Speaker 7: thinking about since Saturday night is Alesandre Pantosia and how

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Speaker 7: sickening and crazy it is to have one of the

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Speaker 7: greatest championship reigns really in UFC history, and like this.

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Speaker 5: There's really no point of comparison in the UFC.

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Speaker 7: We've had injuries in title fights Chris Widman versus Anderson Silva,

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Speaker 7: but to see the Pantosia, or so to speak, get

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Speaker 5: Even though we're gonna celebrate joshuavent.

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Speaker 1: You know, anything can happen in a fight, and we

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Speaker 1: forget about those things. You know, some really silly things

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Speaker 1: can happen in training. Can it can happen in a fight?

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Speaker 1: Because you're doing a lot of crazy things with your body,

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Speaker 7: So I appreciate my business manager, Jason Andik bringing me

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Speaker 7: Starbucks sponsorship in all likelihood, Kenny, I think it's okay

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Speaker 7: if I say that this is black tar. I drink

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Speaker 7: black coffee. I love black coffee. It is comforting, it

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Speaker 7: Coffee dot com, and I grind my beans every morning.

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Speaker 7: And somebody's gonna repurpose that sound by John Annat grinding

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Speaker 7: his beans every morning. But Starbucks black coffee, Kenny, is

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Speaker 7: straight fucking trash. I drink it all the time.

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Speaker 1: It's terrible, Yeah, and I don't feel right after it,

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Speaker 1: like you know when I I don't drink drink coffee anymore,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but my goodness, there is nothing good for the

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Speaker 7: taste buds about this. All right, let us dive into

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Speaker 7: all things UFC three twenty three headlines, brought to you

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Speaker 7: by Quervo. Now's a good time to enjoy the tequila

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Speaker 7: that invented tequila ken Flow. Pyodrian is the new undisputed

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Speaker 7: UFC Bantamweight Champion. He's a two time undisputed vandamweight champion,

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Speaker 7: and he also won an interim championship against Corey Sandhagen

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Speaker 7: at UFC two sixty seven, and a win like this

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Speaker 7: best mixed martial arts athletes of his era, which he

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Speaker 7: absolutely is. I think he'd be the better fighter in

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Speaker 7: a trilogy with Morob. He was absolutely brilliant on Saturday Night.

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Speaker 7: He has been waiting for this opportunity for two and

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Speaker 7: a half years, biding his time doing all the right things.

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Speaker 7: Complete fucking master class, masterpiece from Pyotrrijan. I thought there

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Speaker 1: Several years ago, there was a champion in the one

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Speaker 1: Yan built on what he did in the first matchup

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Speaker 1: I was blown away by that performance. Man, he looked amazing.

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Speaker 7: So I really like Piodriyan's chances in the fight in

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Speaker 7: And it's sort of lazy phraseology, I guess for me

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Speaker 7: not sure any banham, weaight or even featherweight in the

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Speaker 7: once again, it was an arduous weight cut for Mirob

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Speaker 7: Dwallas Willy. I mean, our fighter meeting was about as

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Speaker 5: But you know, I think, for lack of a.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder how much this loss had to do

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's probably an efficient process. However, when

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Speaker 1: So there's certain records, certain things you want to achieve,

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 7: I know I set it all up the way I

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Speaker 7: If Rob dulas Willie had won the fight, he would

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Speaker 7: Dimitrius Johnson, Islami Kashchev, Kabib, Normago Medov, Daniel Cormier, Right,

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Speaker 1: Whilly, Well, can we talk about the fact that peer

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Speaker 3: On a three fight losing streak, right? Was it three fights?

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Speaker 1: How many stories like that do you even hear? Like,

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Speaker 1: You got to look yourself in the mirror and really

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Speaker 3: It's an amazing story.

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Speaker 7: Pyodian lost a split decision of Magamed Magametov in March

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Speaker 5: That made him five and one.

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Speaker 7: Right then he didn't lose again until losing his belt

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Speaker 7: And you might have heard me say at some point

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Speaker 1: Luck, absolutely, And what's so cool about the performance is

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Speaker 3: Gotta do what peoter Yan does. Good freaking luck. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Let's just say you're in that kind of shape to

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Speaker 3: Make no mistake about.

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Speaker 7: It, Duallas Swilley's championship, metal, his heart, his durability on questioned, Right,

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Speaker 7: I just feel like almost any other bandam weight in

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Speaker 7: I think Daniel Cormier provided some much needed balance during

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Speaker 7: And to your point, it's not as though Morob didn't

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Speaker 7: Let me know, Kenny, how do you handicap a trilogy

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Speaker 7: But congratulations to Pyotr Yon on a massive win that

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Speaker 7: can't continue because I'm injured, and yeah, we're going to

434
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 7: celebrate the heck out of Joshua Van, but can flow.

435
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 7: My goodness, man, I'm getting anxious just thinking about it again.

436
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 7: You know, my heart is heavy for all and Andre

437
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 7: Pantosia here on a Monday morning.

438
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Speaker 3: It was brutal to see and just devastating.

439
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 1: And I hope it's not one of those injuries that

440
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 1: keeps him out for too long. And yeah, I get's

441
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 1: just another reminder of what we put on the line

442
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: every time we step.

443
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 3: Out there to fight.

444
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 1: And and for Pantosia, it was bad luck. On that

445
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 1: single leg. He posted his arm, all his weight behind

446
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: that elbow looked like the elbow dislocated there. And we

447
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: have Joshua Van as our champman.

448
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 7: So the craziest thing about the aftermath of all of this, right,

449
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 7: is that tatsu Rotyra looked like the best flyweight I've

450
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 7: ever seen on Saturday Night, you know what I mean,

451
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 7: like physically and just I just feel like he has

452
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 7: the makeup now at twenty five years old, as he

453
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 7: physically and mentally matures to be the world champion, I

454
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 7: think he poses myriad problems for Joshua Van. You know,

455
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 7: Joshua Van had some role in this fight ending sequence.

456
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 7: It's a weird way for him to win the world title,

457
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 7: but I was happy to see him celebrate because, as

458
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 7: Dana White said, there isn't really a shitty way to

459
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 7: win a fight, especially when it's a world title. And

460
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 7: forgetting about the financial component and Joshua Van now getting

461
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,479
Speaker 7: the payday that comes with being a defending champion. You know,

462
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 7: you got to get to the title fight. You gotta

463
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 7: be healthy. And you know, Pantos has been through a

464
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 7: lot of wars, right. You know, he's the older man

465
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 7: by more than a decade in this equation. And you

466
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 7: know the reason why a lot of people thought Joshua

467
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 7: Van was alive underdog Yanni the Greek making it his

468
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 7: best bet, was because of that youthful exuberance, that ignorance

469
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 7: since bliss, you don't know what you don't know, And

470
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 7: it was a chaotic twenty six seconds. And now we

471
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Speaker 7: have a new champion who's twenty four years of age,

472
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Speaker 7: and yeah, it's just a crazy new world.

473
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, to me, watching the fight, it seemed like,

475
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: you know, or prior to the fight, it seemed to

476
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: me that Joshua Van was going to have an athleticism advantage,

477
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: you know, not only because of his youth, but.

478
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 3: Because of just those gifts that he brings in there.

479
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: He's extremely fast, you know, short, stocky, tough to just

480
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: move around, and you know, he brings a lot of

481
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 1: those you know, athletic traits into his fights for him

482
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: to get the better of a scramble or to get

483
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 1: back to his feet, and I knew that was gonna

484
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Speaker 1: be a problem for Pantosia.

485
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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, we didn't.

486
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: See you know, them exchange too much in there. But

487
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 1: Joshua's the champ at the end of the day. Man,

488
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: he put the work in for that, for that awesome

489
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 1: training camp and put himself into that risky position prior

490
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: to that fight just to get there against Roy Vall.

491
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 1: And yeah, again, unfortunate. I do hope that we see

492
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: that maybe in the next one. But who knows when

493
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 1: Pintoza is gonna be back and healthy.

494
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 3: And ready to go.

495
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Speaker 7: You can't glean too much from these twenty six seconds,

496
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 7: But can we just acknowledg Jalachandre Pantosa as a promoter's dream, right.

497
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 7: I mean, he is a champion who fights like a

498
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 7: bat out of hell, goes for it immediately. He was

499
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 7: in back taking mode immediately here, Keddy. I mean it

500
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 7: was just strike my way, a lot of long range

501
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 7: weaponry early from Pantosa. Strike my way inside, get this

502
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 7: dude's back, choke him out and go home. And I

503
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 7: love to watch Pantosa compete, and you know, knowing him

504
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 7: the way he is, right, if this is just a

505
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 7: dislocation and there's no tear, you know he's going to

506
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 7: expedite the heck out of this process and be back

507
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 7: in there sooner rather than later.

508
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 1: I think so as well, man, and I hope that's

509
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: the case. Hopefully there's not a whole lot of major

510
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 1: damage to that elbow.

511
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 7: So Pantosa's sons were there, and it really broke my

512
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 7: heart to sort of see them react. We've seen a

513
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 7: lot of this with family members, and this was sort

514
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 7: of a weird one, right, not seeing a bunch of

515
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 7: concussive bloody damage on Dad tonight, but having Dad's championship

516
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 7: reign end because he suffers this group arm injury. I

517
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 7: think it's going to be traumatic for a couple of

518
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 7: young boys who you know are with him every step

519
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 7: of the way, right, and they're sort of adopting a

520
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 7: lot of the Pantosa discipline. I just had a lot

521
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 7: of love for this man and this family, And that

522
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 7: being said, man Joshua Van versus Tatsuro Tyra is now

523
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 7: gonna be the fight, right, And it seems as though

524
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 7: even if Pantosia doesn't have major damage, right, that you're

525
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 7: gonna get a fight between Joshua Van and Tatsuro Tyra

526
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 7: because they're both young, they're both healthy, didn't suffer any damage.

527
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 7: Before we get to what happened between Brandon Moreno and

528
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 7: Tatsuro Tyra, who do you fancy in this new potential

529
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 7: dream matchup between the new champion Joshua Van and the

530
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 7: slightly older Japanese fighter Tatsuro Tyra.

531
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Speaker 1: I would say Joshua Van at this point, I think

532
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 1: that he's gonna be tough to just take down easily.

533
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: And I also think that just the style where Tyra

534
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: May throws a whole lot of hands, that that could

535
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: spell trouble for him against someone like Joshua Van who

536
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: wants to do the same thing with his counters and

537
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: with his shots on the inside. But Tyra's a problem man,

538
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 1: and his confidence and even you know you mentioned his bill.

539
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 3: He looked way bigger.

540
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: Than when I saw him in his UFC debut. Dude,

541
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: he looked jacked. He looked like he came in shape,

542
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: he was confident. That that actually threw me off against

543
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: Burano man, he looked he looked big.

544
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 7: So after the roy Vaal fight, before his return fight

545
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 7: against him Soong Park or whatever his name is, right,

546
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 7: he took like ten months off, right, there were some

547
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 7: minor injuries, but that was by design, developmental time, and

548
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 7: he came back enormous. His shoulders looked huge. I mean, yeah,

549
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 7: he's eating a lot of those creatine tablets, I would think.

550
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 7: I thought Tyra looked great. I think he's a huge

551
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 7: threat for Van and Pantosia and everybody else. And how

552
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 7: about Joshua Van born in me and mar Burmese Amarican.

553
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 7: Right to my knowledge, Kenny, he is the first Asian

554
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 7: born undisputed male MMA champion. Yes, Jean Way Lee broke

555
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 7: through for China. Right, Lioto Macheetah was born in Brazil.

556
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 7: Joshua Van is the first Asian born man not the

557
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,719
Speaker 7: leech Lee Jing Leung. Right, Joshua Van and now Tatsuro

558
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 7: tyra U has a great chance to be number two here.

559
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 5: I would think at about three.

560
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 3: Months, crazy crazy crazy.

561
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 7: So Donald Trump, the President of the United States of America,

562
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 7: has come out and suggested that, you know, Dana White

563
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 7: and the Brass might be holding back a bunch of

564
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 7: title fights six months and that they might have eight

565
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 7: or nine title fights on the White House car. So

566
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 7: a lot of that is actually rooted in truth, and

567
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 7: we've been talking about that here on the podcast, and

568
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 7: it relates to Joshua Van and Tatsuro Tira. That's why

569
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 7: I'm time it in. So you're seeing the way the

570
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 7: calendar is aligning.

571
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 5: Right.

572
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 7: UFC three twenty five will be done by the first

573
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 7: of February, and all those title fights will have already happened, right,

574
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 7: Volkanovski's title fight will have happened. Kayla Harrison and Amanda

575
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 7: new Nez fight will have happened. You will have an

576
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 7: interim lightweight champion, right, and then the next title fight

577
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 7: isn't until the second weekend in March, I think March seventh,

578
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 7: and that's the BMF belt, So no other title fight

579
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 7: has been added to that. I mean maybe you get

580
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 7: a Chevchenko or something like that, right, But so you

581
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 7: do start to see that a lot of these champions

582
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 7: are going to be available, and if you've got a

583
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Speaker 7: numbered carter two, maybe one in April and May. If

584
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 7: those are not championship double headers, Kenny, you are going

585
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 7: to have Tom Aspinall at your disposal, Alex Paeda at

586
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 7: your disposal, Hamzatschimayev at your disposal, Islamikashev potentially at your

587
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 7: goddamn disposal, Iliatopulia returning Volkanovsky. The calendar would be aligned

588
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 7: for right. That brings us to Tyra and Van. I

589
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 7: think you're gonna probably get that fight, Kenny, in February,

590
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 7: or excuse me not February, in March, maybe alongside the

591
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 7: BMF fight, or in April. You know, I think Pantosa

592
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 7: is gonna probably attack the rehab with such a fervor

593
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 7: that he's gonna try to cut the line. But I

594
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 7: do believe we're gonna get Van and Tyra here in

595
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 7: short order. And I think it's a fascinating fight.

596
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Speaker 3: So that's awesome. Let's listen.

597
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Speaker 1: I think based on their styles, how they match up,

598
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Speaker 1: I think it's extremely intriguing. They both fought in the

599
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600
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Speaker 7: between Tatsuro Tyra and Brandon Moreno. As long as it lasts,

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Speaker 7: I felt like the finish or a stoppage was sort

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642
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Speaker 7: but big win for Tyra.

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Speaker 1: Needless to say, yeah, I mean the way it went down,

644
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Speaker 1: it was a brilliant back take. Maybe it was a

645
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Speaker 1: little bit premature on the stoppage, I thought it was,

646
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Speaker 1: But you know, in the first round, Moreno had himself

647
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Speaker 1: in a reverse triangle. He had a reverse triangle going.

648
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Speaker 1: He wasn't doing a great job of getting that arm

649
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: of Tyra's across his waist to try to create more

650
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: pressure on the neck whether he was going for the

651
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: reverse triangle or the regular triangle.

652
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 3: At one point wasn't able to do that.

653
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: Tyro was able to stay nice and composed, I thought

654
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: Moreno one round one because of those very tight submission attacks,

655
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: or seemingly tight submission attacks in too. Tyra just kind

656
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: of stayed calm, and it looked like he was just like, Okay,

657
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: I'm here to fight now, and Moreno.

658
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 3: Looked a little bit.

659
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was from being in the

660
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: triangle or not, but he almost seemed too relaxed and

661
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: Tyra seemed fired up. And during that transition of maybe

662
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: emotional states, that's where Tyra kind of took over hit

663
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: a beautiful backtake. Once he had Moreno flattened out, he

664
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: started getting aggressive with his ground and pound, which was

665
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: the right choice to make there, and you know, the

666
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: referee felt he had to come in there and stop it.

667
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: And you know, I think it eventually would have probably

668
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: ended that way. I just would have liked to see

669
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: Moreno get a little bit more time to try to

670
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: get out.

671
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 7: Can I just ask you a question that is straight

672
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 7: personal curiosity. Is it a foregone conclusion that Moreno wins

673
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 7: round one because that is a submission attempt. I'm not

674
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 7: even sure if he was granted a submission attempt. I

675
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 7: probed Rogan in DC and they said, oh, yeah, it's

676
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 7: Moreno's round. But I know some other UFC analysts were

677
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 7: not so sure. Is that absolutely ten nine Moreno?

678
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 5: I'm just curious, I would think so.

679
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's absolutely the case, but I

680
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: don't know if Tyra did anything to really win that

681
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 1: round himself. I don't know how much offense he really created.

682
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: There's a couple of shots he was trying to throw

683
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 1: from ground and pound that I don't think landed very well. Yeh,

684
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: And I thought that when you're talking about I guess

685
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: effective grappling. Tyra was in at least two holds where

686
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: he couldn't do anything but defend. Yeah, So to me,

687
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: that that's what would give him the ten nine round.

688
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm sure there was a referee out

689
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: there or two or three that would maybe argue against that.

690
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 7: Brandon Moreno fought so well his last couple of fights

691
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 7: against Amral Bozzi and Steve Erseg and this is a

692
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 7: definite setback for him. And you know, some of the

693
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 7: issue with Moreno is that he doesn't necessarily boast the

694
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 7: finishing ability of say a guy like Tatsuro Tyra and

695
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 7: just sort of the consequences of getting in certain positions.

696
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 7: He's an outstanding grappler, I mean, his jab, his striking's footwork,

697
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 7: it's all unbelievable. But this feels like a pretty big

698
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 7: setback if Moreno's gonna try to become a three time

699
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 7: Flyway champion. Just given the cop Roy Vall fight, and

700
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 7: given now with Tyra emerging and Pantosia coming back. I

701
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 7: know Pantosa is only thirty one, but when I asked

702
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 7: him in the Fighter meeting about the MMA miles and

703
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 7: being sort of as kindly as you could say in

704
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 7: old thirty one, he absolutely acknowledged that, Kenny, I'm not

705
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 7: sure how much Brandon Moreno we really have left, if

706
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 7: I'm being truthful.

707
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, if that was tough because obviously, you know,

708
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: he didn't know what was gonna happen between Pantosian Van,

709
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 1: But man, what an opportunity that would have been. Why

710
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: Because you know, he's got a big name in the sport,

711
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: in the division of course, former champion, He's got the skills,

712
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: and this was this would have been a great opportunity

713
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: for him to inject himself back into that title conversation.

714
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: And you know, he fell flat in that second round.

715
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: And you have a guy who's young, who's aggressive, and Tyra,

716
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: who you know, looked really good, and it's so easy

717
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: to get surpassing this game so quickly and to be forgotten.

718
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: And I don't know if people are gonna forget about

719
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: Moreno just yet. But it really comes down to how

720
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: much more passion, how much more work he's willing to

721
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: put in to get back to the top.

722
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 3: Is this this was a setback?

723
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 7: You nailed it, and that is often the case here

724
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 7: on the anicon Thlrowing podcast. Thanks everybody being live with

725
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 7: us here either on YouTube or the DraftKings Network. With

726
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 7: passion right, So, he's one of the most passionate fighters

727
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 7: in UFC history, has carried the torqu for Mexico's the

728
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 7: first Mexican born UFC champion. But I just don't know,

729
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 7: given the way his career has unfolded, how much passion

730
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 7: there is left at this point. He had all the

731
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 7: hunger to get back to this point, to this tyre fight,

732
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 7: to this title eliminator, but to rebuild at this point

733
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 7: in time as a former two time on disputed champion,

734
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 7: he wanted an interim belt as well, the four fight

735
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 7: series with Figure Out, Figuretto, the three fight series with Pantosia,

736
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 7: all the exhibition fights on the Ultimate Fighter. You know,

737
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 7: I do think, you know, depending on exactly how free

738
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 7: he is financially, I just don't know that there's gonna

739
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 7: be four or five six more fights for Moreno, I'm thinking,

740
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 7: you know, it might be h might be two to three,

741
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 7: and if so, it's been an amazing legacy. Let us

742
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 7: move on to Peyton Talbot if we could, you know,

743
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 7: later today we all have to come up with a

744
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 7: dark horse fighter who could be championed by the end

745
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,479
Speaker 7: of twenty twenty six. And for me, at one hundred

746
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 7: and thirty five pounds, I'm actually gonna say Peyton Talbot.

747
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 7: And I know a lot of people probably think that's

748
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 7: crazy because of how long the line is. Kenny, what

749
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 7: did you make of the Reno, Nevada native thirty twenty

750
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 7: seven times three against Henry Shudo in an absolute classic

751
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 7: on pay per view?

752
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't know really what to make of Peyton

753
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: Talbot prior to this fight.

754
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 3: I didn't know who he was.

755
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: How good is he really the talent It's clear he

756
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: definitely has that, he has the potential.

757
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: But in this fight, this is what, you.

758
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: Know, kind of gets beyond the Peyton Talbot train a

759
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: little bit, because man, he was composed, he is tough,

760
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: he's got a chin, you know, his wrestling seemed vastly improved,

761
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: both offensively and defensively, you know, and he's just such

762
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: a great sniper from the outside. He's so good at

763
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: finding that chin and staying composed and mixing up his strikes,

764
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: and I thought he looked great against a guy in

765
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: Suhudo who you know, certainly not in his prime, but

766
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: you look at what he's accomplished and what kind of

767
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: athlete Henry Sujudo is. For Talbot to look that good

768
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: against him, I think was a great, great fight for him,

769
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: and you know, put him on the map that much more.

770
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 7: Anybody who doubted Henry Suhudo now would probably have to

771
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 7: eat a little bit of crow, just in terms of

772
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 7: his heart, Kenny, his valiance, you know, as he sort

773
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 7: of softly put I guess on social media, you know

774
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 7: you're welcome, right like I gave it by all.

775
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 5: You know, I didn't necessarily have to do this.

776
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 7: And you know, to go out against a young upstart

777
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 7: like Peyton Talbot on his shield, right, with all of

778
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 7: that damage, and to fight through all of that and

779
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 7: athletically still trying to land big shots every step of

780
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 7: the way. I just don't know that there's a better

781
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 7: way to go out if you lose a fight than

782
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 7: the way Henry Shudo went out. And you know he's

783
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 7: going to get a discretionary bonus and rightfully so it's

784
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 7: just crazy to think that this did more for his

785
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 7: public approval rating and his establishment of goodwill with the

786
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 7: fan base than anything he did and winning and defending

787
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 7: two world titles.

788
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 1: So Huro's a stud man. He is an absolute stud.

789
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: You know, you go back to you know, his fights

790
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: against Demitrius Johnson and when he was hopping around on

791
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: one leg after getting calf kicked and his foot is

792
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: completely numb, and he fights through that.

793
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 3: Finds ways to kind of get the win.

794
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: And his whole story about being seventeen years old and

795
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: being on the national team, the US Freestyle wrestling team,

796
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 1: winning a gold medal at such a young age and

797
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: you know, going on to be a two division champion

798
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: in the UFC. It's one of the greatest resumes in

799
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: combat sports history. No one could take that away from him.

800
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: He had so many amazing fights and it would have

801
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: been so easy and no one would have criticized him.

802
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: Really for him to go home maybe after round two

803
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: right where he was eating taking a lot of damage,

804
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: and then even in round three having some excuses there

805
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: to maybe you know, get taken out of the fight,

806
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: and he refused to go away. He wanted to fight

807
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: to the absolute end. It seemed like, you know, he

808
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: was pretty busted up. I don't know if that's a

809
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: broken orbital or what. I don't want to speculate on that,

810
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: but certainly a hell of a lot of bruising, a

811
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: lot of blood messed up his body, you know, and

812
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: he kept wanting to fight through, and you got to

813
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: give it up to him.

814
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 7: Cody just wrote in the chat, would love to see

815
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 7: him get some shine on the White House card, on

816
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 7: commentary or other wise. I mean, his fighting career is

817
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 7: definitely done. But I do think it's a good point

818
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 7: because when you think about all the fighters that have

819
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 7: donned the stars and stripes of the United States of

820
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 7: America when walking to the octagon, you think about Henry Sehudo,

821
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 7: and certainly I think about him running around the wrestling

822
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 7: matt having won Olympic goal, but Sahudo, Chris Widman, Justin Gaichie,

823
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 7: Joe pifer, Bo, Nicol Michael Chandler, Colby Covington, those are

824
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 7: the guys who always go stars and stripes rep in

825
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 7: the US, Chandler, Covington, Pifer Gei, Chie Wideman, Suhudo. Not

826
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 7: gonna have Suhudo on the card. Not gonna have Wideman.

827
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 7: I don't think you're gonna have Covington, but maybe actually

828
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 7: you would probably gonna have Chandler, probably gonna have Pifer

829
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 7: and could potentially have Geechee.

830
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 5: Pretty cool to think about Suhudo having some uh involvement.

831
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 7: All right, forgettable weekend for the star of our program,

832
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 7: let us get to uh the Ray Longman's.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think for most people, Morob Dwallis Willy is

856
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 7: still the fighter of the Year for twenty twenty five

857
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Speaker 8: think that's the beauty of it. I mean, eh, he

862
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 8: went for he went for greatness. Man, you have no risk,

863
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,439
Speaker 8: no reward. I mean, he really puts something on the line,

864
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 8: and I think nobody would have ever if he wins

865
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 8: that fight. Never, it could never be broken. There's no

866
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 8: one to love a fight for five times. But he's

867
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 8: just victory defeat. Watch the way that kid handles himself.

868
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:57,959
Speaker 8: He's a true professional. He understands everything about this game,

869
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 8: and he understands everything about himself. Loves to fight, and

870
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 8: he's not caught up in anything other than doing the

871
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 8: best he can do and trying to push himself to

872
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 8: the limits that other people refuse to even try to do.

873
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 8: So I will always have that guy's back. I love him,

874
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 8: and I think people should use him as an example

875
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 8: if you want to fight, you know, forget about be

876
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 8: Joe Pifer, b Marob Devellis Peeley, do that, try that,

877
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 8: because that's really fucking hard to do. And that motherfucker

878
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 8: really just gave that kid to fight. You know, he

879
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 8: put on an entertaining fight for everybody. That's just the

880
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,720
Speaker 8: bottom line. Didn't work out for him, but competitive, good fight,

881
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 8: and that's probably going to be fight of the year.

882
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 8: So and he's got a lot of competition.

883
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 3: Ray, you know.

884
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: I know, obviously Peoter Jan, you don't want to take

885
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: anything away from him. He fought an amazing fight, great fight,

886
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: But how much you know now in hindsight you can

887
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: look back to you say like, a, did we bite

888
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 1: off more than we could chew with with Marob?

889
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 3: Should we should have?

890
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: We just taken another month or two to kind of

891
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: give him a break and would have even done that.

892
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, Morob, Well, first of all, most likely Morob's gonna

893
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 8: do what Morob's going to do, and he wanted to

894
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 8: go for that. He's not taking a month off because

895
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 8: then he didn't he wouldn't have won for that record, right,

896
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 8: So he was you know, I think it was a

897
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 8: cool thing to do, and uh it looked like that

898
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 8: that you know, hindsight is twenty twenty. You don't want

899
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 8: to start doing that crap. But uh it did look

900
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 8: like he you know, he was a little flat than

901
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 8: than normal, you know what I mean, So, I mean

902
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 8: your body even, but you could see mentally he was

903
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 8: never look defeated.

904
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 5: He was He's like that guy he's just win lose.

905
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 8: I mean that that scene in the ambulance with Al

906
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 8: Joe where he's laughing and the way he's just able

907
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 8: to take everything in and deal with it is just

908
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 8: to me is absolutely phenomenal. I've I've obviously been around

909
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 8: a lot of fighters. This guy's just different in every facet.

910
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 8: That's just that's it.

911
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 6: And.

912
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 8: I'm glad he took the shot. That's what he wanted

913
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 8: to do, And uh, he was right there, you know

914
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 8: what I mean? So, uh, you know, I think he

915
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 8: could have chose to fight a little smarter fight. But

916
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 8: I think he said at the end too. You know,

917
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 8: he's a company man. He's just funny man. I don't know,

918
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 8: And he gave everybody that's the fight. Dana loved to fight.

919
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 8: I talked to him in the octagon, absolutely loved to fight.

920
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 3: Amazing.

921
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 8: He loves Morob now. So yeah, I think this guy

922
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 8: win or lose. He's still picking up fans and moving forward,

923
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 8: and he's teaching everybody the way to act in victory

924
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 8: and and defeat. So I love I love it, man.

925
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: Ray, And I guess I'm curious, So what the kind

926
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: of feeling was backstage when you guys were warming up

927
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: and obviously you had that twenty six second fight with

928
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 1: Pantosia where you guys had to kind of run back

929
00:46:59,400 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: out there.

930
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 3: Were you guys prepared for that at all?

931
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 6: Like?

932
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: What what was that like when you guys realized that

933
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: fight was.

934
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 3: Over and you guys kind of had to be on

935
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 3: deck right there in that? Did that at all?

936
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 8: I'm gonna say, Yeah, Well, I don't listen, I don't

937
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 8: know what. I don't know if it threw anybody off.

938
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 8: But he got his normal five rounds cut in half, right,

939
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 8: so I think he was on like one or two.

940
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 8: And then that fight ended and they said you're walking

941
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 8: in like eight minutes. So he banged out like another

942
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 8: one quick, but it wasn't on normal five rounds of chaos.

943
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 8: But look, I don't even want to get into any

944
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 8: of that because no excuse is Pedeon for the great

945
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 8: fight he really you know, he seems I don't I

946
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 8: don't want to take away, but no we didn't. He

947
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 8: didn't get a chance to do what he normally does

948
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 8: every fight that I've been with him.

949
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's a good question.

950
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, so that was that was really a good question

951
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 8: because uh, I think everybody thought the fight could end early,

952
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 8: but not like that. They cut him short.

953
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 3: So who, well, I can get chaotic back there, you know.

954
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: I know sometimes I'm expecting to go and then I

955
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: didn't have to go, and yeah, wait, you're kind of confided.

956
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 8: Okay, No, it wasn't chaos like that though. Kenny was

957
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 8: chaos like he was on his first or second round

958
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 8: in the fight was stopped and they said we're walking

959
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 8: in like eight So I think he got maybe the

960
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 8: third round in, but it's not the same as having

961
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 8: a half hour for by Mitchwell, you're going dessert for

962
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 8: twenty five minutes and psyching yourself up, So who knows,

963
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 8: but that was definitely different.

964
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 5: We were running long though.

965
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 7: I remember looking at my phone at nine to twenty two,

966
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 7: shortly after Joshua Van had won, so I think the

967
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 7: timing was actually about right.

968
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 5: But it's a really interesting point.

969
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 7: And we will never know if Rob Dwallerschwili was flat

970
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 7: a little bit at times in this fight because he

971
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 7: fought Cory Sandhagen seven or eight weeks ago. We're never

972
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 7: gonna know the answers. But Pyotr Jan is an absolute animal.

973
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 7: You've cornered against this man four times, and as you

974
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 7: look ahead to trying to be this man again, you know,

975
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 7: Yan spent two and a half years essentially trying to

976
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 7: figure out a way to close this gap on Morob

977
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 7: Duallace Willy. He probably was expectant, given the way their

978
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 7: first fight went in March of twenty twenty three, that

979
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 7: when he fought him again, Morob would be the champion.

980
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 7: I mean, I guess your answer is probably gonna be

981
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 7: just Morob doing what he does. But what do you

982
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 7: need to do in a trilogy fight with Pildrinanno? Now

983
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 7: close this gap, because I thought there was an argument

984
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 7: that you guys lost all five rounds.

985
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 8: Uh yeah, I look it was the rounds were definitely closed.

986
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 8: I in my head, I had it two to two

987
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 8: going into the fifth round.

988
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 5: That's fair, that's fair.

989
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 8: The corner. I think everybody else thought that Jan had

990
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 8: won the first three. I just it's not it's you know,

991
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 8: I don't even I don't even look at it, like

992
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 8: did Morob win the first three? I look at it

993
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 8: in my head, I'm going, what do I think the

994
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 8: judges are looking at it? That's the first thing, you know.

995
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 8: It doesn't matter what I think at all, it's just

996
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 8: what did they think? And I told out you and

997
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 8: there's no ways when I mean it, just the optics

998
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 8: when not.

999
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 5: No, you said we need no you were demonstrated.

1000
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,399
Speaker 8: But I but I think I would have I would

1001
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 8: have won a total ape shit on him if I

1002
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 8: was like probably in it. I just was trying to say,

1003
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 8: do you really need a big round? Like I was

1004
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 8: trying to ut out sound to the alarms like that,

1005
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 8: because I think everybody thought he was up three, so

1006
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 8: I didn't want to go crazy, you know, but uh he.

1007
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 7: My brother was acting on side, and he was sort

1008
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 7: of thinking, am I you know, after the fact, am

1009
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 7: I crazy to think Dwallas Willie's up three nil? You know,

1010
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 7: like Jay was wondering if anybody agreed with him. I know,

1011
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 7: John would. I think was caught on a mic saying

1012
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 7: at some point, you're up three nil. I certainly thought

1013
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,919
Speaker 7: you guys had a good first round, and then Jan

1014
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 7: did gas in the middle of the fight. But you know,

1015
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 7: I thought pure Yan just turned in one of the

1016
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 7: greatest bandam weight performances I've ever seen. You know, Cody

1017
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 7: was harken and excuse me, Kenny was HARKing back to

1018
00:50:58,600 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 7: uh Cody Garbrant.

1019
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, and I do.

1020
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 8: Look, I looked he had great performance. But Morob did

1021
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 8: give him the fight he basically needed to do that.

1022
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 8: He he chose to stand up way more.

1023
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 7: You know, he was two for twenty nine on his takedowns.

1024
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 7: He didn't even come close on the takedown.

1025
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 8: Right, I mean, I mean he already beat him once.

1026
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 8: I look, I think that was I think Marob said it,

1027
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 8: and if he said it, I believe it. He he

1028
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 8: was looking to put on an entertaining fight. He one

1029
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 8: hundred accomplished his mission. He was entertaining and and and

1030
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 8: that's just that's it, you know. But I think if

1031
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 8: he would have, you know, fought him the same way

1032
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 8: for him the first fight, I think it would have

1033
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 8: been kind of similar. And we had this we listen,

1034
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 8: I think we had the discussion we had was kind

1035
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 8: of perfect for the fight. Will he decide to stand up?

1036
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 8: That was that that was what everybody was feeling. Will

1037
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 8: he get comfortable with the stand up to give this

1038
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 8: guy an opportunity to do something? But you know, even

1039
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 8: in that sense, he stood up with him, and it

1040
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,720
Speaker 8: was a good fight. You know, he took everything Peenie

1041
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 8: the head to offer, and you know he didn't go anywhere.

1042
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 8: So moron, believe it or not, grows in that department,

1043
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 8: you know, even in resiliency, resiliency standing up. He now

1044
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 8: has been in a stand up war, you know what

1045
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 8: I mean. So he's got all the bases covied right, Right,

1046
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 8: he does rest up, and he heals, he comes back

1047
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 8: way better because he'll be Yeah, I think he'll put

1048
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 8: this fight in perspective, in his head and be able

1049
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 8: to navigate what to do the next time for.

1050
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 5: Sure, right, I think that's a good point.

1051
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 7: And the confidence right that you can eat some flush

1052
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 7: shots to your vital organs in the body and fight

1053
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 7: through those the way he did. No, I have so

1054
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 7: much respect for him and defeat all the heart that

1055
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 7: you would like to see. But uh, I think it's

1056
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 7: going to be a real challenge to beat this version

1057
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 7: of Pyodrion for any of these one hundred and thirty

1058
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 7: five pound fighters, you know. The confidence accrued for him

1059
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 7: now doing that, uh, you know. And I just think

1060
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 7: it's going to be really interesting to see how how

1061
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 7: Marob sort of rebuilds from here, you know, because I

1062
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 7: do think that two for twenty nine is leaves a

1063
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 7: lot of room for improvement.

1064
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 8: You know. Yeah, yeah, he wasn't, but he wasn't fighting

1065
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 8: the way he normally fights. He did. Look, I think

1066
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 8: even in the first round, you know, he was he

1067
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 8: was fighting success with his hands because I think Jan

1068
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 8: really expected him to be shooting takedowns, you know. Once

1069
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 8: I think Jan figured out, well he's not shooting that

1070
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 8: much or he's not like the normal I think he

1071
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 8: was able to take more risks and you know, laying

1072
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 8: some biggest shots. I think to me that was the

1073
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 8: difference in the fight.

1074
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 5: So what happens from here? What do you think?

1075
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 7: I mean, you got Umar and hermagametto fighting Davison Figuretto

1076
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 7: in January and then it's Ramadan. But don't you think

1077
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 7: we get a trilogy here? I mean, I'm dying.

1078
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 8: God's I would think that. I would think that should

1079
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 8: be the trilogy. At the Walls, I would think that,

1080
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 8: hass you know it's it's gonna be a good fight

1081
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 8: either way. Yeah, I almost guaranteed that, you know.

1082
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, yes, absolutely, And.

1083
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 8: I do believe Morob makes the adjustments and wins that fight.

1084
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 7: Do you think that Morob is willing to sit right

1085
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 7: now for six or seven months?

1086
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 8: Well, I think now he's kind of forced to a

1087
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 8: little bit. But I think he needs I think he

1088
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 8: really needs to rest, and I think he'll whatever rest

1089
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 8: means to him. I think he will do it. But

1090
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 8: I think it's I think in the business Kenny's called

1091
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,760
Speaker 8: an active rest. Yeah, you know, instead of just sitting

1092
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 8: down between rounds you're on like the Basu ball or something.

1093
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 8: But he'll do he'll do his version of an active rest.

1094
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 8: I'm sure and uh, and I think he's got a

1095
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 8: great mind for fighting, and like again, he'll uh, he'll

1096
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 8: figure out exactly what he needs to do. And I'm

1097
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 8: sure you know John will be working on shit too,

1098
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 8: so should be good.

1099
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 7: He is such a unique individual Morob Dwallace Willy and

1100
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 7: unique fighter that it's interesting to think about a man

1101
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 7: of his makeup accepting that he needs rest. Right, his

1102
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 7: longtime chief corner Ray Longo said, and I quote thirty

1103
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 7: seconds ago, he really needs to rest.

1104
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 5: So that is your opinion that he rest.

1105
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 7: That's my opinion, has you know a Novice Mma analyst

1106
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 7: that he needs to fucking chill out if he's going

1107
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 7: to prolong this career and not fall off a cliff.

1108
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 5: I could be totally off base, but.

1109
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 8: Well, listen, he had a crazy year. He needs Yeah,

1110
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:37,720
Speaker 8: he deserves the rest, needs the rest. He deserves a rest.

1111
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 8: And I do believe he's going to take a rest.

1112
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 8: I do honestly believe that you know he'll, Well, you're.

1113
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 7: Right, he's going to be forced to because competitively, he's

1114
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 7: a championship fighter who is going to fight for the

1115
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 7: belt in all likelihood next Kenney.

1116
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Ray, I was going to ask you, you know,

1117
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 1: a little bit nerdy, but do you think it's more

1118
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: of a mental rest that he needs or a physical

1119
00:55:59,120 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: rest or both?

1120
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 8: You know, I think, uh, let me see how I

1121
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 8: mean what I believe. This is just my opinion. I

1122
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 8: believe his body was asking for a rest. He's just

1123
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 8: so mentally strong right that he's Look, he was able

1124
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 8: to push through everything, so he's able to you know,

1125
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 8: his mindset is one where he is able to overcome

1126
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:27,240
Speaker 8: things like we're talking about. But I believe you listen,

1127
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 8: every time you're making weight, you're frying your internal organs.

1128
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 8: You know, like how many times can you do that?

1129
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 8: It's not good for you, no matter what what. It's

1130
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 8: like getting hit in at And he.

1131
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 3: Does it old school method too, which doesn't help really, right.

1132
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, well he doesn't really let anybody watch him. But

1133
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 8: it's about his old school, is uh if. I think

1134
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 8: the last time I checked, it was beyond old school.

1135
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 8: So he's he's really frying his internal organs for real,

1136
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 8: Like you know, you know there's guys that wait till

1137
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 8: last second now to drop that pounds, so they're not

1138
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 8: you know, too shot when he off the scale. But

1139
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 8: he's Uh. I think his body is screaming for a rest.

1140
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 8: Whether his mind knows it or not, I have no

1141
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 8: fucking idea, but I believe I believe his body needs

1142
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 8: a rest, and he's gonna and he's gonna take the rest.

1143
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 7: His Bank of America checking account is screaming for the

1144
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:20,439
Speaker 7: two to three million.

1145
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 8: To show that doesn't that does.

1146
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 7: Pohoopa has had to sort of and he says it

1147
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 7: kind of tongue in cheek. But you know, hey, oh Pantosia,

1148
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 7: they want you to fight in Perth in two months.

1149
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 7: All right, Well that's fine, but lose my number. I'm

1150
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 7: not coming, you know what I mean. Sometimes, right, if

1151
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 7: you're wholly focused on retaining the belt and prioritizing the

1152
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 7: championship belt or not entertaining the masses or being a

1153
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 7: company guy, uh, you can't just you know, fight every

1154
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 7: couple months and cut the weight. But podre Jan's now

1155
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 7: the champion. I cannot wait to see that trilogy fight.

1156
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 7: And I think you're right that the White House makes

1157
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 7: a lot of sense. It's really interesting to think about

1158
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 7: like upwards of six un disputed title fights at the

1159
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 7: White House. It seems as though that's the direction in

1160
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 7: which we are going, and we.

1161
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 3: Got to go have a championship on the.

1162
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 5: Right.

1163
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 3: It's crazy.

1164
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, all right, that's that's a good news. You're fighting

1165
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 8: for a championship. Bad news. You're the first fight on

1166
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 8: the previum right.

1167
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 7: So, Ray, you have been in Chris Wyman's corner when

1168
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 7: Anderson Silva broke his leg. You have been in Chris

1169
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 7: Wyman's corner when he broke his own leg. What were

1170
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 7: your thoughts on the Pantosia injury? I guess for you

1171
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 7: bury it and go corner your guy in the main event.

1172
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 7: But what was it like for you? And did you

1173
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 7: see it on the TV? Either a replay or as

1174
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 7: it happened.

1175
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's uh, it was not you know, not good.

1176
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 8: But well, I don't think it had the same effect

1177
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 8: as that shind break that joke, thaisman shindn't I don't.

1178
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 8: Did those things wigged me out way more than that

1179
00:58:59,240 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 8: wigged me out?

1180
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 6: You know.

1181
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 8: It's almost like, uh, it didn't Henzel keep fighting when

1182
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 8: he dislocated his elbow. He didn't tap right, Yeah, yeah

1183
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 8: they did. He didn't tap man. You know, so I

1184
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 8: think I'm used to I'm way more used to the

1185
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 8: elbow doesn't have the same effect as a shit.

1186
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more.

1187
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 7: I guess the Wideman Silva fight was just one of

1188
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 7: three instances in UFC history in which in a title

1189
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 7: fight it happened, I guess.

1190
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 5: So to have the Pantosia rain and like.

1191
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 7: This just feels so sour, I guess I just wanted

1192
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 7: to get your thoughts on that.

1193
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 8: No, they just got to run that back immediately.

1194
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 6: That's it.

1195
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 7: I don't think they're going to Why is it because

1196
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 7: Tatsuro Tira out of Tokyo, Japan. I hope he's from Tokyo,

1197
00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 7: But because Tatsuro Tira out of Japan, huh had a

1198
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 7: really big weekend. No, I think that Pantosa is gonna

1199
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 7: need some time. And I think as we look at

1200
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 7: twenty twenty six and the calendar and the White House component,

1201
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 7: I think they're gonna need a Men's Flyway Championship fight

1202
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 7: in short order. And I don't think Pantos' is gonna

1203
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 7: be ready.

1204
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 8: Well, if he's not ready, then he's not ready. But

1205
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 8: if he's ready, he one deserves the title shot. Great champion,

1206
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 8: and it's a freak accident you get you can't. You

1207
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 8: can't penalize the guy for that.

1208
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 5: And Van wants Pantosa.

1209
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, because he's you know, oh, I don't know, Joshua Van,

1210
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 8: but I I really I didn't even see it. He

1211
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 8: was just reading that people were upset that he was

1212
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 8: running around the ring like he just you know, knocked

1213
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 8: the guy out. But uh, you know, it's part of

1214
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 8: the game and that's it. But he should want Pantosia

1215
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 8: because he's not gonna like the fact that the way

1216
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 8: he won that title. I don't think, you know, when

1217
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 8: when Push comes to shove a couple of weeks or.

1218
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 7: So, I don't think he's gonna like that Japanese monster

1219
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 7: to retire either potentially. I mean, you know, Kenny's like

1220
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 7: Jesus John, I mean, go get all the Tyra merks already.

1221
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 5: But no, I mean, yeah, I think you're right.

1222
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 7: I just think how soon is Pantosa gonna be able

1223
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 7: to throw a jab? And I just I don't know,

1224
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 7: I you know, but yeah, you don't bet against Pantosia, right,

1225
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 7: knowing him the way we do.

1226
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 5: It's all he's getting assessed today.

1227
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 8: So yeah, he deserves a rematch for sure.

1228
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, So anything else that you would like to sound

1229
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 7: off on Nazim Sadakov obviously, Oh Jim, we should get

1230
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 7: to that and then we can circle back to the

1231
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 7: main card. So if you don't know, long time Ray

1232
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 7: long ago pupil Nazim Sadakov on the wrong end of

1233
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 7: a t k O with the hands of Paresiam, who

1234
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 7: look like an absolute world beater.

1235
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 5: What you make of NAS's fight.

1236
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 8: Raymond, Yeah, I will say this, he looked absolutely phenomenal

1237
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 8: in the dressing room. He looked great, and they shakeout.

1238
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 8: He just for whatever reason, I haven't talked to him.

1239
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 8: I got to call call him in after this because

1240
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 8: I just ran out of there. I had an early flight.

1241
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 8: But yeah, he just didn't get going. I don't know,

1242
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 8: I'd have to really talk to him. I mean, he

1243
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 8: was very upset after the fight, and he's got he's

1244
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 8: got some shit to figure out, because he's way better

1245
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 8: than what he demonstrated, and that's the only thing anybody

1246
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 8: should be trying to do with him is to get

1247
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 8: him to be like, you know, the best he could

1248
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 8: be with all his attributes, and that wasn't even remotely

1249
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 8: anything that ever looked like that kid that I saw, So, uh,

1250
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 8: you know he said it no excuses, and I'll tell

1251
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 8: you right now, look crisp man, did he look crisp

1252
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 8: warming up? So he's got some shit to figure out.

1253
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 8: But I was totally taken back by that. I didn't

1254
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 8: see that coming at all.

1255
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 1: Ray what'd you think of Suhudo's last fight in the octguon?

1256
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 1: It was a good one.

1257
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 8: I gotta tell you, man, I'm with you guys for

1258
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 8: a couple of things. On that man did that? That

1259
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 8: guy I really like Henry, you know, and he's a

1260
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 8: little fucking bullbuster too, you know what I mean. Like

1261
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 8: I got to talk to him a little bit, you know,

1262
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 8: and I can't even explain the story. But we're just

1263
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 8: sitting there like waiting to get picked up by the

1264
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 8: uh the van, and I'm with nas and he's to write.

1265
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, we had talked a little bit

1266
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 8: and there's like five minutes of sounds that he just says,

1267
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 8: remember broke back long ago.

1268
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 3: Is a motherfucker Like.

1269
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 8: What I don't even know what he honestly, I don't

1270
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 8: remember anything, but he's like he tells me Adam Hunter

1271
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,919
Speaker 8: was writing his jokes. This motherfucker, I go. Adam Hunter

1272
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 8: wrote that joke. I don't even you know what the

1273
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 8: fuck you're talking about. But uh, he's just a good guy.

1274
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 8: He's a bullbuster. I really like Henry a lot and mad.

1275
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 8: That's the way to go out on your last fight.

1276
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 8: And we've had we've had this discussion where you overmatched

1277
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 8: a guy on his last fight. You know, they gave

1278
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 8: me a young kid, and holy shit, that he showed

1279
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 8: a heart of a champion in that fight. Man, he

1280
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 8: really he impressed the shit out of me. I like

1281
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 8: Henry a lot. He went out on his shield. You know,

1282
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 8: we didn't go out as you, but he went out.

1283
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 8: You know, he went out swinging, man, and he definitely

1284
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 8: Uh oh, man, I thought it was I thought Henry

1285
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Speaker 8: put on a great, great performance. And look, I want

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Speaker 8: to shout out his coach, Santino DeFranco. I think another

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Speaker 8: guy that's an underrated coach. Oh. I think the sport's

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Speaker 8: gonna miss. That's an real intelligent, nice kid who's done

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Speaker 8: a great job with a lot of people. I think

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Speaker 8: it goes unnoticed. Uh maybe I'm wrong because I don't

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Speaker 8: know all all that stuff, but that's a good guy.

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Speaker 8: So shout out to Santino too. I got a chance

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Speaker 8: to talk to him a little bit. But whatever he

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Speaker 8: does in retirement, I'm sure he's going to be successful

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Speaker 8: because he's a He's a really bright, bright, intelligent kid man.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I think he's invested well too.

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Speaker 7: I think he owns a couple of gas stations that

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Speaker 7: do well out there in Arizona.

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Speaker 5: But yes, he is retiring as.

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Speaker 7: A coach after the Sahudo fight, and uh, real quick,

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Speaker 7: I just want to say, I think Nazi Sadakov's lost

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Speaker 7: to Forescium is going to age gracefully because I think

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Speaker 7: Xiam is going to get into the top five, and

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Speaker 7: I think he could potentially be a real threat. I

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01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 7: think sometimes the issue is just the opponent and that

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Speaker 7: length and the evolution of his game. I mean, oftentimes

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Speaker 7: I say I'm the oldest man in the room, and

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Speaker 7: thankfully in this room, i'm.

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Speaker 5: The fucking youngest guy right now.

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Speaker 7: But I remember Yam asking me for a picture when

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Speaker 7: he's twenty two and he's a fucking rail, you know,

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Speaker 7: And I look at him now and he's a real problem. So,

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Speaker 7: you know, I think ray the issue this night might

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Speaker 7: have just been that the opponent was that good, and

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Speaker 7: I don't think anybody was beating piel Ran on Saturday night.

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Speaker 3: You know, so.

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Speaker 5: You know Yan Beohovich, I love this human being. You know, he's.

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01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:56,959
Speaker 7: Getting on Santa Claus's lap in Vegas to make Yon

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Speaker 7: Junior jealous.

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Speaker 5: I love Champ.

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Speaker 7: It's gonna be forty three, I think in James majority

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Speaker 7: draw against bog Don Gustco, I think it's the rightful

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Speaker 7: score and uh yeah, interesting another draw for the former

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Speaker 7: light heavyweight champ.

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Speaker 1: He's such a likable guy man, you know, seeing all

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Speaker 1: those videos and you know him and his wife walking

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01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 1: around just everything is just kind of a joke, and

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Speaker 1: he seems to.

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Speaker 3: Just love life.

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Speaker 1: And you know what he he fought. He fought his

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01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 1: ass off on Saturday night. I think there were some

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Speaker 1: times though, where like in round two, for example, where

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Speaker 1: he was kind of content to be on his back

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01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 1: and wasn't really fighting to get back to his feet

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Speaker 1: at all, and it's kind of content to be there.

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Speaker 1: And and you know, obviously two the judges scored that

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01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 1: one of ten eight goose goff Land has some great

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01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 1: ground and pound, but you know, sometimes he doesn't do

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01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: himself any favors, and I could be the age that

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01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't have the energy output that.

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Speaker 3: He used to have.

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01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 1: But he's still so skillful and and and and smart

1343
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: when he goes out there and does the right things.

1344
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 1: But that that was a really good fight, and to

1345
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 1: see him do that at that age is very very impressive.

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01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I'll tell you I was. I was in

1347
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 8: the dressing room with him warming up. He looked freaking

1348
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 8: really good. He did some ship that he was that

1349
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 8: if he would have did in the fight. He's knocking

1350
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 8: that guy out like he his left head kick was

1351
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 8: getting up there effortlessly fast and hard or for nice combos.

1352
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 8: And I mean even I go to John and he

1353
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 8: looked at me, goes like, it's just what we were

1354
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 8: looking at. Was he looked freaking great for how old

1355
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 8: is this guy? Forty three?

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01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 5: Forty three in January?

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01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, he was really really good warming up

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01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 8: and then he you know, uh he had a great fight.

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01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 8: You know, I don't I think I would have probably

1360
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,919
Speaker 8: scored it for him, but uh, I guess I guess

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01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 8: they gave that a ten eight round in the.

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Speaker 5: Middle there judges. Yeah, yeah, Kenny, So.

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Speaker 7: In terms of Goustcove right, I mean, I guess the

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01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 7: jury's kind of still out a little bit in terms

1365
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 7: of how far he can take this thing.

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Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, I think so too. You know, he's good man.

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01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 1: That right hand that he's got is tremendous, especially on

1368
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 1: the counter. He's he's very fast, he's dynamic. But yeah, it's.

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01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 3: Still hard to tell just how good he is.

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01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 1: Defensively, he makes a mistakes, so he gets caught with

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01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: some things on the ground. I think he can make

1372
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 1: some improvements. But physically he's impressive, and he came across

1373
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 1: as a really nice guy as well, by the way.

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01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but you know, he definitely is talented. I

1375
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 1: think if he can, you know, show up his defense

1376
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 1: a little bit and just get some more experience, I

1377
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 1: think he could be someone to watch. But I think

1378
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 1: that was one of those fights like you gotta get

1379
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,759
Speaker 1: by Yon. If you want to be in that division,

1380
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:48,680
Speaker 1: you gotta get by someone like Yo.

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Speaker 3: Behovid.

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Speaker 1: That's not a knock on Yon is so damn good,

1383
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: But to establish yourself as.

1384
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 3: Elite, you gotta be someone like Behovid.

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01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think this is gonna be a time

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01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 1: for a Goose Golf to to regroup a little bit.

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01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I couldn't agree more, especially if the guy's turned in

1389
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 8: forty three. I mean, you know, yeah, I think you

1390
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 8: were lucky with a draw. So I think that's some

1391
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 8: concern moving forward, you know what I mean. So, and

1392
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 8: I'm sure, I'm sure the UFC will let him know that.

1393
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 7: Also, Kenny, I don't know if you heard me say

1394
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:21,799
Speaker 7: on the broadcast, Wohovich can't lift weights during training camp

1395
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,679
Speaker 7: with that shoulder. He had a very invasive shoulder surgery

1396
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 7: because it's too painful. But he can lift weights when

1397
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 7: he's not in camp. But it just shows you the

1398
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 7: commitment and the hunger and he just still loves it.

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Speaker 5: That's the thing.

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01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 7: He had so much fun fighting Carlos Olberg, and I

1401
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 7: think part of the reason he hangs out on his

1402
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:42,719
Speaker 7: back looking to land elbows in guard is because he's

1403
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 7: just having fun. And you know that ultimately cost him

1404
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 7: at least in that middle round. Real quickly, before we

1405
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 7: get on out of here, how about this Manuel Torres.

1406
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 7: Did you see that knockout of Grand Dawson.

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01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 8: I didn't see the whole fight sort of knockout, but

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01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 8: it looked pretty pretty up pretty quickly.

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01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 3: But here's the thing about that shot.

1411
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 1: It was such a shot from inclose, like it didn't

1412
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 1: seem like, wasn't the ones where he was winding up.

1413
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 1: It was just a short, kind of structured punch that

1414
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 1: had Dawson stepping in potholes. Man, that was oppressive, Torres.

1415
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 1: He's another one of those guys where he's not there

1416
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 1: to win rounds or score points. He's trying to take

1417
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 1: your head off with every shot that he throws.

1418
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 3: And it paid off.

1419
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 8: Man. Yeah, you know, some guy's got bricks in their hands. Man,

1420
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 8: it's a totally different field getting hit from one guy

1421
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 8: to another.

1422
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dawson never got a chance to even get in

1423
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: on like a good single or double. You know, he

1424
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 1: was kind of wasn't able to get on the inside

1425
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: at all. And yeah, I think that threw him off.

1426
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Dawson. I don't know.

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01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 7: I don't know how you work on a chin, but

1428
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 7: his chin has abandoned him seemingly already. Raymon, Hey, thanks

1429
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 7: for getting up a little bit early for us today.

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01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 7: As I understand it, you were looking for eleven forty

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01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:54,679
Speaker 7: five am.

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01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,600
Speaker 8: You know, the time difference is starting get to me

1433
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 8: the first day, so yeah, I figured, yeah, an extra

1434
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 8: two minutes, Kenny, Look at that hurt anybody.

1435
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 3: You're the man, Ray, Thank you for Ray.

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01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:11,640
Speaker 7: We love you. You're the star of the show. I'm

1437
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 7: gonna go buy some Pyodryan merchandise I hope you have

1438
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 7: and uh, we will talk to you next Monday.

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01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 8: Is it only me? I feel like Morob's still the champ.

1440
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 8: I don't know, it must have been just me, but.

1441
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 5: Still the fighter of the year though.

1442
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 8: Let me tell you some I'm a shout out to Pedon.

1443
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 8: Great job by him and his team, so enjoy it.

1444
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 8: And he's had a crazy ride too, you know, so uh,

1445
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 8: it's it's actually nice to see.

1446
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:41,839
Speaker 5: Also, yeah, that's a very nice parting shot.

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Speaker 8: Love you, Ray, Love you guys.

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Speaker 3: Take it easy, Ray Long.

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Speaker 7: I'm in it every week here on the Anak and

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Speaker 7: Florian podcast. There's a lot of respect between those two teams.

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Speaker 7: You heard pyotr Yan acknowledge those coaches and the team

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Speaker 7: that he has competed against now four times. Big win

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Speaker 7: for Yodian. We also congratulate the other winner, may Cy Barber,

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Speaker 7: Chris duncan incredible performance in that crazy fight with Terrence

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Speaker 7: mc kitty, Jalen Turner back in a big way against

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Speaker 7: Edson Barboza, and the fight between Evo and Ebo. My goodness,

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01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 7: welcome in our chief handicapper, Big Gun Brian Petrie, BP,

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01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 7: What a Weekend UFC three two.

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Speaker 4: Three, Great Weekend, Buddy, Great Weekend Love the.

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Speaker 7: Card absolutely insane. All right, we have six selections for

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Speaker 7: you today. We will begin with a pretty big prelim

1522
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 7: in the strawweight division. Tenth rank Jillian Robertson minus one

1523
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 7: sixty two, number five, amount of Lamos plus one thirty six.

1524
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:05,640
Speaker 7: I had breakfast with Dean Thomas yesterday. He'll be in

1525
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 7: Jillian's corner Saturday night. She's won four in a Rowbrie

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01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 7: six and seven. You know, at one point the Savage

1527
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 7: was nine and six as a pro after a lost

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01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 7: to Mirandom Maverick. She's now sixteen and eight on the

1529
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 7: CUSP with the top five if she could beat Lemos,

1530
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 7: and she's favored to do.

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01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 5: So what do you think, pp?

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01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, everywhere I go, I get shouted like, hey,

1533
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 4: that guy knows chicks. That guy knows chicked in it. Rightfully,

1534
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 4: so I do. But I threw a pause on this

1535
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 4: one because when Lamos came, I saw Limos as a dog.

1536
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, I like, I like that. But then

1537
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:40,799
Speaker 4: I had really familiarize myself with Gillian Robertson's game, because

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01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 4: you're right, she's nine and six and I still think

1539
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 4: of her as that inconsistent fighter. Now she's really stepping

1540
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 4: on her game. She's looking good on the feet. Her

1541
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 4: ground game might be the best in the female division.

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01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 4: I mean it's up there, it's really good. She gets

1543
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 4: you to the ground. It's I mean, she hunts for

1544
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 4: a finish and she's very, very good at she does

1545
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 4: grappling outside of the UFC in Almos. You know, she

1546
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:01,600
Speaker 4: gets putting on the ground, she kind of stays at it.

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01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 4: She doesn't really work to their way up one takedown

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01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:05,560
Speaker 4: all it took against Jandrew Drow but she had a

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01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 4: submission and then Jillian Robinson. She knows she needs to

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01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 4: take down her two ugly losses in USC, and my

1551
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 4: opinion are Talas Santos and Macy Barber. Those are the

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01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 4: only fights in UFC she need to get a takedown,

1553
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,639
Speaker 4: so she knows what she needs to do and minus

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01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:21,719
Speaker 4: one sixty two doesn't scare me off. Give me Jillian Robinson.

1555
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 4: I think she might even get a finished here. We'll

1556
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 4: see what that prop is later in the week, but yeah,

1557
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:26,599
Speaker 4: I like Jillian Robinson. I'm backing him.

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01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 7: And A Robertson during fight is actually pretty intriguing with

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01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 7: Kenzy really a world last jiu jitsu player is now

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01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 7: the champion Ken Flow. Amanda Leamosh as you know, faugh

1561
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 7: John Wiley for the title in twenty twenty three. Since

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01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 7: she has alternated wins and losses. Lost the unanimous decision

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01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 7: to Tatiana Scorz her last time out in September. Now,

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01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 7: at thirty eight, draws the nineteenth time UFC veteran Chilian

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01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 7: the Sabbage Robertson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Amanda is so physically gifted. She's so fast, She's

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01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 1: really light on her feet. She knows how to move

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01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 1: and set things up. Sometimes she gets a little overly

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01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 1: emotional and sometimes divert from her game plan a little bit.

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01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 1: And you know, I think she struggles when she is

1571
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 1: on her back. She has some skills there, but I

1572
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 1: don't think she wants to be on her back for

1573
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,799
Speaker 1: too long against someone like Jillian Robertson. I like Jillian

1574
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:13,600
Speaker 1: in this spot. I think she's gonna be able to

1575
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 1: hit the takedowns, control and maybe even advance to a submission.

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01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 3: So give me Jillian all right.

1577
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 7: Five main card picks to close out the year at

1578
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:26,560
Speaker 7: heavyweight Kennedy in Zechiku minus won forty two, Marcus Butcecha

1579
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 7: plus one twenty in Zechiku the African Savage Bride, coming

1580
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 7: off a massively disappointing loss by heel hook to Walter

1581
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 7: Walker that was in July. Fight lasted fifty four seconds

1582
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 7: and there went his two fight winning streak. What do

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01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 7: you make of in Zechiku this weekend against Buceca.

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01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's nice that Alt Walker gave Kennedy his leg

1585
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 4: back so he can fight again, because you know that

1586
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 4: was he took that motherfucker home, Denny Listen. Buceco was

1587
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 4: really disappointing in his debut. I mean, Martin Boudaye. I

1588
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 4: know he's a big, sturdy dude, but I expect it more.

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01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 4: There wasn't a moment where he got Boudai in the ground,

1590
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 4: and I guess when you this high level, when you

1591
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 4: touch the ground, you think it's gonna be over in seconds,

1592
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 4: and it wasn't. He actually kind of looked like he

1593
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 4: rushed a few things and was a little tired in

1594
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 4: that spot, you know, coming from where he came from.

1595
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 4: Now he's in the big show, Butcecha, this is a

1596
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 4: big step up for him, and I think Kennedy, if

1597
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 4: he has a good takedown offense, he's gonna pick him apart.

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01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 4: On the feed. He's long, he's ranging, he's heavy, he's

1599
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 4: in the right weight class as well. Two A five

1600
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 4: must have been an absolutely brutal cut. I like him

1601
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 4: on heavyweight and I like Kennedy here, and I like

1602
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 4: the low number as well. Minus one forty two maybe

1603
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 4: even get a knockout on the night here, big knight

1604
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 4: for Kennedy. So yeah, give me Kennedy.

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01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 7: Bucecha never been finished. Five and two is an MMA

1606
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 7: pro Kenny, Who do you like a heavyweight kid?

1607
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 1: This is an interesting one. I think that is still

1608
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 1: a developing mixed martial artist, you know. I think integrating

1609
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 1: his striking into the takedowns and getting that range, that's

1610
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:47,680
Speaker 1: where I kind of want to see him succeed here

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01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 1: in this fight, because a zetaku, uh, if you allow

1612
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 1: him to play on the outside or even get one

1613
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 1: of those like tie clinches, you know, that's where Marcus

1614
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 1: could be in some serious trouble.

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01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 3: But I like the under this one. I mean, there's

1616
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 3: some value here. I think, you know, against a guy

1617
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 3: like Budai.

1618
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,560
Speaker 1: You know, he's a Brazilian jitsu black belt, and of

1619
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 1: course you know is still much much higher level. There

1620
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 1: is a difference between jiu jitsu and m m A

1621
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 1: and Zechhaku was not even not anywhere close to being

1622
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 1: a Brazilian jujitsu black belt. I think this is where

1623
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:20,679
Speaker 1: if he can get him to the ground, he wins.

1624
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 1: This if it stays on the feet, and Zachau not

1625
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:24,719
Speaker 1: only could win, but could get a knock out himself.

1626
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:26,679
Speaker 3: But give Meesha all.

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01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 5: Right, Brian next up? Pick him at featherweight Morgan Charier

1628
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 5: minus one ten, Melchazaiel Costa minus one ten as well.

1629
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 5: Chari are very experienced twenty one eleven and one as

1630
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 5: a pro. Had a big win over Nate to train

1631
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 5: Land where in July, now trying to make it two

1632
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 5: straight three in his last four against Costa, who has

1633
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 5: had a huge twenty twenty five four straight wins for

1634
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 5: him overall, three of them this year. BP pick him

1635
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 5: on paper at DraftKings sports Book. How do you see

1636
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 5: a plan out?

1637
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I go to get me in trouble

1638
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 4: because people that listen to my podcast know I always

1639
01:20:56,920 --> 01:21:00,679
Speaker 4: pick against Malki Costa and he I owe him money

1640
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 4: at this point the amount of times I pick against him,

1641
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 4: and I don't know what it was. I mean, yeah,

1642
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 4: he got knocked out by Steve Barcia a while ago,

1643
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 4: but he looked really he looked really good. He's looked tough,

1644
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 4: he's looked durable.

1645
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 3: But I never can pick him.

1646
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:12,560
Speaker 4: And the problem I have here is I'm really I

1647
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,680
Speaker 4: really like Morgan Scharier, I like the Pirate. I think

1648
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 4: his striking is really good. Him knocking out Lin Lanner

1649
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 4: in the three round war was awesome. His takedown de

1650
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 4: Fence is solid. I think a little more volume and

1651
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 4: a little more consistency will will plague him.

1652
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:25,639
Speaker 3: Well.

1653
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 4: I just think he's gonna stop to take towns like Costa,

1654
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 4: and I think he's going to lay in a big

1655
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 4: strike and maybe and get a knockout, have a good

1656
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 4: performance for himself. I like to pick him number, Give

1657
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 4: me the Pirate, give me Morgan.

1658
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 7: Sharier, Melchiziel, Costa not ranked as yet, Ken Flow might

1659
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 7: get a shot at a rank guy if he can

1660
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:45,719
Speaker 7: win this one exceedingly close fight on paper.

1661
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 5: Kenny will take a pick anytime.

1662
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, melkie Ziel, he definitely has that wildness factor. He's

1663
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 1: tough as nails, He's very aggressive. But I'm with Brian here.

1664
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:03,679
Speaker 1: I think Charier Charier ecute Charier.

1665
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:05,600
Speaker 5: I think he is.

1666
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 1: I think he's the better fighter. I think he's more technical.

1667
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 1: I think he's a little bit more dangerous on the feet.

1668
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 1: But I agree, Brian, I get a little worried when

1669
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 1: he's not throwing a whole lot of volume.

1670
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 3: And I agree he is a bitch to try to

1671
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 3: take down. Man.

1672
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 1: It is so tough to put Morgan on his back

1673
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 1: and keep him there. I think he has that kind

1674
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:27,600
Speaker 1: of judo background, but he does a great job of

1675
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 1: staying on his feet.

1676
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 3: And yeah, give me the Frenchman, all right.

1677
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 7: Moving on now to the middleweight division, the fourmentioned sesati

1678
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 7: olekshej minus one seventy taking on Sasar al Maide who

1679
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 7: is plus one forty two. So Olek Shijak making his

1680
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 7: UFC debut after a big one on the Contender series

1681
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 7: back in September. On the other side, Alt made a

1682
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:50,679
Speaker 7: pretty good so far right two straight wins that includes

1683
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 7: the knockout of Abdul Razak al Hassen that thoes all

1684
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 7: the way back on the first card of the year

1685
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 7: in January. So a little bit of a forgotten man.

1686
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:00,639
Speaker 7: We haven't seen him since. Briy what he think Albta

1687
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 7: has for olok Shack this weekend.

1688
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I almost forgot about him. Maybe he

1689
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 4: came to the UFC as the the poloton hunter. Oh

1690
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 4: he beat he beat Pereira in kickboxing or sign him up,

1691
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 4: you know, he's the next guy. And then I think

1692
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 4: they trained together now or something like that. Either way,

1693
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:17,759
Speaker 4: he's looked okay in the UFC so far. He's obviously

1694
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 4: got that power. He doesn't have a ton of volume.

1695
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 4: He's never laying at more than sixty strikes in the UFC.

1696
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 4: Maybe just hasn't had to. You know, he's got the

1697
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 4: re lise in the power, but you know he kind

1698
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 4: of waits for people to come in. You look at

1699
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 4: the copylof fight you got drop by Copyloft and he

1700
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 4: got out grappled. You got old sad check coming in.

1701
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 4: His brother looks phenomenal in the UFC when it stays

1702
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 4: on the feet. And this kid looked really good in

1703
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:38,599
Speaker 4: the contendent series and his brother from all account says,

1704
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 4: this is the better version. This is the guy that

1705
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 4: you gotta watch out for. And you look at his

1706
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 4: record on the regional scene and maybe not the stiffest competition,

1707
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 4: but he looks good. You know, he's like his brother.

1708
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 4: He on the feed, he's lights out on the ground,

1709
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:51,799
Speaker 4: you know, can get questionable. Luckily he's fighting another fellow kickboxer.

1710
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 4: R I do not think he's gonna want to take

1711
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 4: this fight to the ground. Give me alwo s head

1712
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 4: check here, give me, give me a big win for

1713
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 4: the for the Polish man.

1714
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 7: Here, Olik Shajus one seventy can flow Almeida the plus

1715
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 7: one forty two hunderdog?

1716
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 5: Who do you love?

1717
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is gonna be an interesting one, right because

1718
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:11,720
Speaker 1: alex Seychuk obviously this is his official UFC debut. He's

1719
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 1: taken on an excellent striker and says they're Almeida, and

1720
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 1: who knows, he may try to take it to the ground.

1721
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 1: We've seen Almeida on the ground, you know, against other guys.

1722
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 1: He's not bad there. But I agree with you, Brian,

1723
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 1: I think you're spot on in regards to his volume.

1724
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 1: He's not so active and he's going against a guy

1725
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 1: in Olek Saeychuk who likes to lead the dance. You

1726
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:32,679
Speaker 1: look at some of his other fights outside of the UFC,

1727
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 1: he's always pressing forward behind that jab.

1728
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 3: He's staying active.

1729
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:39,680
Speaker 1: He's looking to trap you up against the cage, and

1730
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 1: I think that's where Almeida can find himself in trouble. Now,

1731
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,639
Speaker 1: Almeida can win this fight as well. He's got crazy power,

1732
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 1: He's an experienced striker. But if this one goes a decision,

1733
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 1: I think it's going to come down to the volume,

1734
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 1: and I think alex Seychuk is gonna be the guy who's.

1735
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 3: Throwing a little bit more so, going with the Polish guy,

1736
01:24:58,439 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 3: Gavid sha.

1737
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 4: By chekoskos By.

1738
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 7: Here we go, guys, featherweight comane event Kevin by KOs

1739
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 7: minus two seventy eight taking on fifteenth Frank Ichi Kadse

1740
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 7: who is plus two twenty five by KOs My getting

1741
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:24,679
Speaker 7: that right. He is sixteen and one after his August

1742
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 7: went over. Danny Silva now getting a shot at the

1743
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 7: still ranked former headliner Giga Chikadse holding on to that

1744
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 7: number despite going winless the last two years.

1745
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 5: BP, Who do you have in the co main event?

1746
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, Giga kind of fell off a little bit if

1747
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 4: I'm being honestly. The twenty twenty twenty twenty twenty one

1748
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:41,720
Speaker 4: he was hot, Like you know, he was the guy.

1749
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 4: I mean, he was maybe even lined up for the fight.

1750
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:46,719
Speaker 4: Vulcan then I don't know if his injuries, in activity, whatever,

1751
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 4: and then he couldn't really get a win together. And

1752
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 4: now the last two fights he's been bullied. He's just

1753
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:52,639
Speaker 4: been bullied in there. He still has some skills. He's

1754
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:54,719
Speaker 4: getting a little bit older. You know, it's takedown of fences.

1755
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 4: So I think his takedion offence is okay. His ground game,

1756
01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 4: I think is questionable. He's got the giga kick, which

1757
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 4: you always gotta watch out for. But by Jehos Kevin,

1758
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 4: by Jay Hoos, this is the dude that fought John

1759
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:07,760
Speaker 4: Silva to a decision on the contentancry. He didn't get

1760
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 4: finished as a young man twenty two years old or

1761
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 4: whatever he was. Now he's only twenty four and he's

1762
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 4: a big body kid who can who can knock you out.

1763
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 4: He's looking at some good grappling. I think he's really

1764
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 4: come every time he fights, he's improved. And I love

1765
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 4: the main events spot here because he's a little bit forgotten.

1766
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of people are talking about

1767
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 4: these up and coming these really good contenders. I think

1768
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 4: by Jae Jos isn't a guy that people were talking about,

1769
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 4: so I'm talking about him. It's a guy comin events spot.

1770
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna knock out Giga here at the

1771
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 4: very least, he's gonna look phenomenal if he doesn't get

1772
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 4: a knockout. But give me Kevin Bygjeos. It's how you

1773
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:41,479
Speaker 4: say his name, and that's the guy that's gonna give

1774
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 4: me a nice little ticket win here, Johnny.

1775
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 7: I believe he is out of Argentina. He's a near

1776
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 7: three to one favorite this weekend. Kenny last win for

1777
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:51,760
Speaker 7: Giga Chikase came against Alice Caseis. That was August of

1778
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 7: twenty twenty three. But to Bry's point, at one point

1779
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 7: he was the guy. He was seven and zero on

1780
01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 7: the UFC after winn over Dson barbos in twenty twenty one.

1781
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 7: Also didn't miss way for his last fight against David Onama.

1782
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 7: Your thoughts on Chikadse and bos Chekos this weekend.

1783
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:08,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, people weren't so well prepared for that gear kick,

1784
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:09,679
Speaker 3: were they in the beginning?

1785
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 6: Right?

1786
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 3: And then people kind of caught onto it.

1787
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:13,680
Speaker 1: And if you're a one trick pony, I don't want

1788
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 1: to say he's a one trick pony, but if you

1789
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 1: have you know some dangerous moves that allow you to

1790
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 1: have success early on. Eventually people catch onto you, and

1791
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:24,559
Speaker 1: I think that people have realized, we got to back

1792
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:26,639
Speaker 1: up a kicker. We got to back up a kicker

1793
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 1: a lot, We got a threatened takedowns keep him off balance.

1794
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 1: Now with Vaejos or by Jehos, both are acceptable.

1795
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 3: Thank you for your attention to this matter.

1796
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 1: I think that Vayekos getting on the inside, working those

1797
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 1: boxing combinations. He's a guy that is kind of a

1798
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 1: nightmare matchup for someone like Chi Kase if he's able

1799
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:47,680
Speaker 1: to get on the inside and his footwork I think

1800
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 1: is good enough to be able to do that. I

1801
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 1: think the grappling will probably cancel each other out. If

1802
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 1: anybody goes for a takedown, maybe it's va Jehos, But yeah,

1803
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 1: I like Kevin in this matchup. I think his boxing combinations,

1804
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 1: his ability to get an inside, his ability to back

1805
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 1: up guys. He likes to be aggressive. I think that's

1806
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 1: the kind of style you need here against Yakonte.

1807
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 7: All right, right back to Ken Flow for our final

1808
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 7: prediction of twenty twenty five. The main event in flyweight

1809
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 7: Manel cop minus three to zero five in climbing taking

1810
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 7: on Brandon rod dog Royvall, who is plus two forty five.

1811
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 7: You gotta wonder what Manel Cop was thinking when Pantosia

1812
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 7: got hurt, given their history and his appetite for that rematch.

1813
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:27,719
Speaker 7: Manel Cop is absolutely electric, faster than a speeding bullet.

1814
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 7: He's won two in a row by TKO six wins

1815
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 7: spanning his last seven, only laws in there to the

1816
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:37,639
Speaker 7: undefeated Muhammad Mokhaiev now draws the UFC tried and tested

1817
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 7: former world title challenger Brandon royval who Kenny is just

1818
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 7: an absolute dog. Right, What a main event to close

1819
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 7: out the year. We'll take your main event pick at

1820
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 7: any time, all right.

1821
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 1: So with manew Cop, I think there's a lot of

1822
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 1: lessons and a blueprint, certainly in Royvaal's last fight against

1823
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 1: Joshua Van. And why because Cop can do a lot

1824
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 1: of those similar things that Joshua Van can do. He's

1825
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 1: extremely dynamic, he's very fast, he's good with his counterpunching.

1826
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:09,839
Speaker 1: I think his forward his ability to keep the proper distance,

1827
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 1: him being a little shorter, stockier, I think will help

1828
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 1: him and stopping takedown attempts and things like that. But

1829
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:20,599
Speaker 1: does he have the composure, does he have the emotional

1830
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 1: intelligence that Joshua Van does.

1831
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 3: That's gonna be the tough one for me.

1832
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 1: I think menel Cop at this point does have the

1833
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 1: experience and the understanding of that, and if he's able

1834
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 1: to do that, I think he wins this fight.

1835
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 3: He may be able to, you know, stop Royval.

1836
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:38,839
Speaker 1: Not an easy thing to do because Royval tall, lanky,

1837
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:41,679
Speaker 1: tough as nails, not going to be intimidated by anything.

1838
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:44,040
Speaker 1: If he ever gets himself in trouble, he does not

1839
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 1: back down. He actually starts moving forward and gets more aggressive.

1840
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 1: So either way, I think this is going to be

1841
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:52,600
Speaker 1: a very exciting fight. If menl Cop is not disciplined

1842
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:55,760
Speaker 1: in this fight, Royval will win this and probably later

1843
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:58,240
Speaker 1: in the fight. But it's I think it's important from

1844
01:29:58,240 --> 01:29:59,680
Speaker 1: an l Cop to get out to a good lead,

1845
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 1: stay disciplined throughout. If he does that, he wins this fight.

1846
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 1: Game menel Cup.

1847
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:05,519
Speaker 5: Nicely, don Kent flow.

1848
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:07,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, probably a lot of big fight experiences in the

1849
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:09,839
Speaker 7: UFC for Brandon roy Vall, a lot of main events

1850
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,120
Speaker 7: at the Apex as well. What do you make of

1851
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:14,760
Speaker 7: his chances here plus two forty five against menel Cup.

1852
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 4: No, I'm sure these guys are training their asses off

1853
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:19,320
Speaker 4: for the final fight, main event, you know, but after

1854
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:21,680
Speaker 4: Pantos you're losing. I bet you these guys may be

1855
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:23,160
Speaker 4: stepped up a little.

1856
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 3: Bit more both.

1857
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 4: You know, Roll Voll has two losses of Pantos. I

1858
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:27,680
Speaker 4: don't know if he's gonna get that third one. Cop

1859
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:29,560
Speaker 4: has that loss of Pantoser. I mean, I'm sure that

1860
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 4: would rematch what happened. But Joshua Van opened some doors

1861
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:34,640
Speaker 4: now and these boys are main event here. I mean,

1862
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:36,720
Speaker 4: I knew Tyro's probably next, but then these guys are

1863
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 4: right right there. And if Revol wins, he has a

1864
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 4: case because he has a winner for Tyre. This is

1865
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 4: Volumever's power, right, this is what this is. I mean,

1866
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 4: minel cop. The biggest complaint is he doesn't do enough.

1867
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 4: He doesn't throw enough. You look some of his earliest ufcs,

1868
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:49,160
Speaker 4: there's not He's a he's a pot shotter. He finds

1869
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 4: his shots, and he's got the biggest power one twenty five.

1870
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 4: Reval throws a lot of volume. He outstruck Joshua Van

1871
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 4: t fifteen to two four, and he's lights out on

1872
01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 4: the ground and he just has a pace that he

1873
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 4: keeps on you. It's gonna be a phenomenal fight. But

1874
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 4: if you go back and listen to me earlier last

1875
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:06,800
Speaker 4: year and two years ago. Uh, and we're actually gonna

1876
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 4: roll that footage right now. Code if you know we

1877
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:10,479
Speaker 4: don't have it, Okay, well we'll skip over with that. No,

1878
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:13,240
Speaker 4: I've been manel Cop. I think he's been. He's gonna

1879
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:15,040
Speaker 4: fight for a title, and I believe that. I think

1880
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 4: he's an interesting cat. You know, he's a confident dude,

1881
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 4: but he is phenomenal and explosive. His takedown offence is great,

1882
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:24,439
Speaker 4: and I think he's gotta have a big night here.

1883
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:26,599
Speaker 4: I think he's a knockout revall and I like Menel

1884
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 4: Cop his star boy. Baby yeah, baby, yeah, All right.

1885
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:31,960
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1886
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1888
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Speaker 7: Flow's lead is north of nine thousand dollars going into

1889
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:44,600
Speaker 7: the final live event of the year. You guys have

1890
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 7: one thousand dollars to spend. So we'll see what patriots

1891
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:51,679
Speaker 7: throwing at the whiteboard here as he tries to pull

1892
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 7: the rabbit out of the hat and victory from the

1893
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:55,559
Speaker 7: jaws of defeat BP.

1894
01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:56,080
Speaker 5: Go ahead.

1895
01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:58,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I only got one move here. You know

1896
01:31:58,160 --> 01:31:59,880
Speaker 4: this is this has been a down year for me.

1897
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 4: Admittedly the Cody Steele fight from months and months ago

1898
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:05,680
Speaker 4: when I put all three bands on him, Yeah, that

1899
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 4: was the one that I pinpoint. Anyway, I'm just gonna

1900
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 4: parlay the main card for all thousand. We'll go Jillian Robinson,

1901
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 4: will go Kennedy, We'll go more and I'll obviously send

1902
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 4: this to Jay uh Jillian Robertson, Kennedy, Morgan Ola Scheck

1903
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:23,839
Speaker 4: by Jehos and Manel Cop and right now on DraftKings

1904
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 4: that is fourteen oh nine. So that's a fourteen thousand dollars. Yeah, yeah,

1905
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 4: if I hit that thousand, so we're throwing a hail

1906
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:31,760
Speaker 4: Mary Last life Guard here.

1907
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 5: Gotta do it, boys, Let's go Brian nicely done, can flow?

1908
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:34,760
Speaker 8: What do you have?

1909
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:35,400
Speaker 5: Thousand bucks?

1910
01:32:35,479 --> 01:32:35,639
Speaker 3: Kid?

1911
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:39,720
Speaker 1: I'm putting two point fifty one sha, and then I'm

1912
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 1: gonna put I'm gonna do a seven hundred and fifty

1913
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:45,720
Speaker 1: dollars parlay on Charier.

1914
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:54,680
Speaker 3: By Jejos and Cop. Okay, even it stopped with me.

1915
01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 7: Okay to our chief handicapper, Brian Petree forever in day

1916
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Speaker 7: for everything you have done, all the hours watching film,

1917
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 7: especially early on in the week. Oftentimes I am asking you,

1918
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 7: guys to turn the page from UFC three twenty three

1919
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 7: and do this handcap on that sun, do the handicap

1920
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Speaker 7: on that Sunday. I know we're not going to talk

1921
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:17,639
Speaker 7: to you for six weeks now until UFC three twenty four.

1922
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:21,080
Speaker 7: Perhaps we will have you intermittently as the show continues,

1923
01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 7: But thank you, sir, outstanding job, and I hope your

1924
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 7: parlay hits and we have reason to bring you on

1925
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 7: next week because you beat this fucking guy.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: No, I mean I always do a little parting shote

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Speaker 4: at the end. I know, John, you get a heart out,

1929
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Speaker 4: but I'm gonna try. I know a long win is

1930
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:36,479
Speaker 4: sometimes I'm not gonna be long win. This has been

1931
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 4: a very tough year for me. I lost my mother

1932
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Speaker 4: in January. And I know this sounds very trite and

1933
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 4: maybe not inspiring, but MMA, and this show is my life,

1934
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 4: and the constant distraction of having weekly to do something

1935
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Speaker 4: and get me out of my own head with my

1936
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Speaker 4: mother situation was pretty beneficial. And listen, there's a million

1937
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Speaker 4: people that want to be in this seat that I'm

1938
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Speaker 4: in right now. The fact that you boys have faith

1939
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Speaker 4: in me and week in, week out to sit here

1940
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Speaker 4: and break down this fights with two of the best

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Speaker 4: in the world. I mean again, anybody could do this.

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Speaker 4: It means the world to me, guys, and thank you

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Speaker 4: so much. So Mary, Christmas Habyanica. Happy New Year.

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Speaker 3: We've got a new era.

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Speaker 4: Starting in January with Paramountain. I'm very excited to start

1946
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Speaker 4: it with you boys.

1947
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Speaker 5: You can't drop in there.

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Speaker 4: Kwanza. Yeah, sorry, I'm so sorry the Kwanza, Quanita.

1949
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Speaker 3: God happy Holidays.

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Speaker 4: I think that's bullshit.

1951
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Speaker 5: But I'll say all these nice things and then you.

1952
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Speaker 3: And my neighbors used.

1953
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Speaker 4: To celebrate Quanta too, so I should have fucking said it.

1954
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Speaker 5: Damn love you, buddy.

1955
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

1956
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Speaker 7: Yeah, you guys are Brian Petrie, chief handicapper on the

1957
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Speaker 7: anak Imploring podcast. Yeah, and it's interesting when he talks

1958
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Speaker 7: about sort of the professional distraction.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 7: Twenty twenty five has certainly been the most challenging year

1961
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Speaker 7: of my personal life, and being able to lean into

1962
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Speaker 7: this podcast and our audience and work oftentimes is is therapeutic.

1963
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Speaker 7: All right, We got to get on out of here, hopefully,

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Speaker 7: everybody enjoys the UFC Fight Night, will vol versus Cop

1965
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Speaker 7: at the and we will be back to recap it

1966
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Speaker 7: with you on Monday, and some other details on what

1967
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Speaker 7: our show is going to hold the rest of the

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Speaker 7: way in twenty twenty five. Thanks to Cody Merrow, Brian Petrie,

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Speaker 7: Ray Longo, Jason Anick, everybody at the DraftKings Network with

1970
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Speaker 7: that for Ken Flum, John Anick, we'll talk to you

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Speaker 7: in less than a week. Until then, congrats to Pyotre

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