1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Oh a great time, Steve Tasper texs time to down 2 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: Ta Tex downs time. Okay, here we go another day 3 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: at one goals five. Welcome to Hartchard Park, Welcome to 4 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: New Arara Field. A little coating of snow overnight three 5 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: to five. I would say they were right. A four 6 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: inti of snow on my law in this morning, after 7 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: snow that started at ten. No, Steve, I got like 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: an inch. I'm like four. I'm like three miles from you. 9 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: How did you get four or five? You must be 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: the altitude up here. We always get more intern than 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: you and everything than the high on the high brow 12 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: section of town. Oh right, it's the alt tar Am 13 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: I from you a mile a mile and a half. Maybe, yeah, 14 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: I think you're three four three miles gotta be right. 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: He might be no more than five. Do more than two? 16 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: Come on? A couple inches of snow today was good. 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: I'm over in God's country in the EU. A. You're right, yeah, 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: I'm in, says back. That is correct. Um hey, I 19 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: started snowing on my way home from a pretty good 20 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: college basketball game last night. I saw Canisius and Niagara 21 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: and Niagara one by three. They're both are are desperate 22 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: for wins. Neither team is playing is having a great season. 23 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: Neither team played well last night, but because they were 24 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: so bad, it was pretty competitive last night. Right Niagara 25 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: has a team, they're they're tiny. They got playing a 26 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: high post, you know, usually a big guy, like a 27 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: five foot nine inch guy stand found line. Yeah, a 28 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: couple of times. It was crazy. They don't have any 29 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: big men. It was crazy, but it was fun. I 30 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: saw a lot of people I knew. I've I've kind 31 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: of checked out of the college basketball routine this year 32 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: because you know, Michigan is off my radar and um, 33 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: a couple of other issues. And uh, I got back. 34 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: You should tell the reason Michigan are because the Lockport coach, 35 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: Jim John bee Line. Yes John bee Line is now 36 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: coaching that they He left Michigan, and that kind of 37 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: soured you, at least on the college. You don't have 38 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: a team to root for, right so now we are 39 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,919 Speaker 1: kind of interested in Cleveland Cavaliers, accept that they stink, 40 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: right so, and I think I might go there for 41 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: a game in a couple of weeks. But it was 42 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: good to get back into it last night. See a 43 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: lot of the people that I know, it's always a 44 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: fun game at the Gallagher Center. A good crowd, not 45 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: a great crowd, and a competitive game. It was a 46 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: good win for Niagara last night. I don't know, yeah, 47 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 1: I mean I get it. You have to watch a 48 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: lot of a sport to know whether it's good or 49 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: bad basketball, or good or bad hockey, or good or 50 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: bad football. Because if it's competitive and close and you know, 51 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: back and forth or whatever, that's good, right right? Really yeah? 52 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: What makes it bad? Wills shots, a ton of miss shots. 53 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: I mean the Knisians shot like thirty eight percent for 54 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: the game, and we're just not missing layups and a 55 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: number of turnovers, just sloppy play. It wasn't a great 56 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: basketball game, but it was okay. Neither team is that talented. 57 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: Both teams are young. Um. First time I saw Greg 58 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: Poulos coach Niagara, I was impressed. I think Canisius has 59 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: a better team, but Niagara hustled their way to win, 60 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: made the place when they had too. It was It 61 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: was a really good night and it started sewing on 62 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 1: my way home. That's why I get into this. I 63 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: got you and you're going to hog Oh. First of all, 64 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: you're collecting birthdays over there, what do you do when 65 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: you got birthday? You know this is Jeremy Kelly comes 66 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: in and tells us whose birthday it is? Is Ruben 67 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: Brown's birthday today, But it's also a guy I played 68 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: with for just a hot minute here in Buffalo of 69 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: Lucius Sandford, the old linebacker. And it's Randy Moss's birthday. Wow, 70 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: at least it says so on social media, So I 71 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: guess that's all true. But those three guys all born 72 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: on the same day, Ruben Brown. We gotta get Ruben 73 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: back in have a little chit chat. Well, yeah, okay, 74 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: you say it, and it happened. There you go, Ruben 75 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: Brown with the existence. But I am going to the 76 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: hockey game tonight. And here's how it happened two nights 77 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: after you went. You're going again, right, So the two 78 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: nights I was there last week last Tuesday. Yeah, um, 79 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: nice game, fun game. I was there with my son 80 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: and his wife and and my grandson and their son. 81 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: And I saw a ton of people I know. Of course. 82 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: I always dropped by Duffer and Mark there in the 83 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: when they're before they go on in the between periods, 84 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: and I said hi to them. Then I saw a 85 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: couple other peoples, a bunch of people I knew, and 86 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: then I see our boy, Jim Kelly's there with with 87 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: some friends, right quarterback, right, So he's sitting there and 88 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: I go over and get him a hug, and my son, 89 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: who obviously knows him real well, they're all we're we 90 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: chit chatted for a minute because I'm not going to 91 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: the game Thursday night. You want these tickets, I'm like, 92 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: I don't. Let me check. I pulled out my phone 93 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: and check. I did in my glasses so I couldn't 94 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: read myself. I said, I'll text you tomorrow. I didn't 95 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: have these glasses, so I had to text him the 96 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: next day see if we could go. So we are going. 97 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: Who's going? Me and the missus and some close friends 98 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: are yeah. Yeah, And it's it's in those it's in 99 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: those seats. That's one of those tables with the chairs around. 100 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Jim doesn't sit. Jim doesn't sit with the 101 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: rest of us. And in the end zone there in 102 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: the end of the ya right, the club thing, Yeah, 103 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: whatever that is. Yeah, you get a table and a 104 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: couple of chairs around. Yeah, and we get table service. 105 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: I guess too. It's probably gonna cost me a fortune. 106 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: I didn't have to pay for the tickets either, but 107 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna cost me a fortune to go there. 108 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: No sign Jim Zane. It'll be on the Underhill tab. 109 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, so that's where we're going. It'll be fun. 110 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: And it's two thousands night. What does that mean? It 111 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: means they're celebrating the decade of two thousand. I get that, 112 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: But what is that? I don't know? How do you dress? 113 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: I was an old guy in the two thousand, I'm 114 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: I'm an old guy now. But do you have any 115 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: clothes that you wore in the two thousand? Got a 116 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: c I can wear a CBS blazer, there's one. But 117 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: really the clothing is the same, right, there's nothing that 118 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: different about what is I don't know? How do you do? 119 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: Somebody tweet aus and tell us what we're supposed to 120 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: wear for two thousands? What's different? Murph and I are 121 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: still wearing the stuff for warn eight. It's twenty years ago. 122 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: Things should have changed, but they really didn't. Maybe we're 123 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: we're probably at fault. We were probably the pinnacle of fashion. 124 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: That's why we still wear the same old clothes. We 125 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: were fast, we were forward thinking that Dressers what is 126 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: And I know that the jerseys the team's got, you know, 127 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: different there, you know, But what what changed? Yeah, what's 128 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: gonna look like? The last twenty years went like that 129 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: for us and maybe the Sabers. I was, yeah, because 130 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: it was I was a grind in the fall and winter, 131 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: because I was, you know, traveling all the time for 132 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: CBS and doing all that, and you know the voice 133 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: of the Bills. You were grinding the two. Yeah, so 134 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: what you know, I don't know. I don't know how 135 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: I would what would be different about two thousand and 136 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: twenty that was not going on in two thousand. I 137 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: don't know if I'm missing something, tell us. I was 138 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: a long way away, though, I remember. Would you remember 139 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: where you were when the millennial turned? When the New Millennium? 140 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: I was home. You stayed at home. I was in 141 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: a neighbor's house celebrating the New Year's and I had 142 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: to be there, yeah, you know, or trust the street. 143 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: I had to work that night at Channel seven to 144 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: do the six and then I came home and celebrating 145 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: the new year with some neighbors. For some reason, we 146 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: were in Pittsburgh. I was doing an NFL game. Probably 147 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,119 Speaker 1: the game the next day. I was doing an NFL 148 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: game and I had it was myself and all of 149 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: our children and my wife, the whole family and are 150 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: my in laws were there and we were Pittsburgh had 151 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: this big street party and stuff. So we were out 152 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: at that. I was in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvan. I think clocks 153 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: weren't going to work and banks would shut down and 154 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: power would go out. Remember all that. Yeah, the White 155 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: two Okay, Yeah, no, I didn't really wasn't really sweating 156 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: that out of you know. It was kind of cool though, 157 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: because Pittsburgh had the thing. It was. Yeah, Hinesfield was 158 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: up right, I think it was man. Somebody tweeted us 159 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: in to let us know. But anyway, but on the stadium, 160 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: whether it was Three Rivers or hines Field, they had 161 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: the clock eleven you know, eleven fifty seven. You know, 162 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: there was eleven fifty eight and then eleven fifty nine 163 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: or eleven fifty eight. Then it when it turned to 164 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: eleven fifty nine, they had a sixty second countdown, and 165 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: it was you could see it everywhere, right, that's score away. 166 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: It was really cool. So everybody knew when the year 167 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: two thousand turned over. That's a pretty nice little moment. 168 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, so it was three rivers, so it was 169 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: it was pretty cool. So that's where I was. But 170 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, like I say, I'm what was a 171 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: fashion thing. I don't know how much it was different. 172 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure there was, and it says more about me 173 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: maybe you two. But I wasn't patting attention to fashion then, 174 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: and I sure as hell i'm not not today. We 175 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: wear the same stuff every day, right, I don't know. 176 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: I gotta find out, yeah, because I'm not gonna I'm 177 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: not gonna dress up special for the game. I'm not 178 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: one to like, like on New Year's Eve we go 179 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: to you know, tucks and Pucks. I'm not in a 180 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: tucks you know. Yeah, maybe the Savers could play the 181 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: way they played in the decade of the two thousands. 182 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: That'd be an upgrade. Yeah, just to get a win, 183 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: just get just get a win. And I saw the 184 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: hey they won the other night. Played it was fun, 185 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: nice game the other night. This is when I was 186 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: showed up ninety seconds late to and missed two goals. 187 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: Are you gonna please don't be late today? I don't 188 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: want to hear this Yeah, we're gonna be pushing it 189 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: because we got we got some issue, you know, family 190 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: issues before we get out of town, childcare and picking 191 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: up the friends and all that. Don't be late. You 192 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: would think you were learn your lesson, you'd think, but 193 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: you know, I gotta live my life. Man. I show 194 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 1: up when I show up. Um, there's you know, that's 195 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: the way it is at other places. That's the way 196 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: it is another place. In America, we feel like you 197 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: gotta show up on time. We gotta we listen. We 198 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: told everybody we're gonna start a six olive. They and 199 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: they gotta do this in other countries, it's not quite that. 200 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: It's not always that way, and that's not cool. I 201 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: don't think, well, you think it's not, but it's their. 202 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 1: Their culture is different than ours. So like they it's like, 203 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: for instance, my son got married in Africa. When you want, 204 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: they'll start when they get there. I was listen. It 205 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: was incredibly uncomfortable. We had this wedding started like two 206 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: in the afternoon. The entourage we didn't even we didn't 207 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: even leave the hotel until three thirty. And they were 208 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: just like, we care, we don't need you here for 209 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: you just hold off, we're not ready. People are still 210 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: getting here. So they held us off for like an 211 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: hour and a half. Of course it was a nine 212 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: hour ceremony, but still here. You go right there late 213 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: so they wouldn't spend, but it was. It's not always. 214 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: See I panic when I'm not there on time. I 215 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: don't like it. I don't like it either. I'm i'm. 216 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: I think that's an American thing, though here's and I'm 217 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: frequently here's an etiquette etiquette question. When you're gonna be 218 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: late fifteen minutes, maybe ten fifteen minutes, you call ahead 219 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: and say I text, I'm gonna be late. I text right, 220 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: And does that make it better? Yes? Makes me feel better, 221 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: But it depends on how early it text. Like if 222 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: it's three hours before and say hey it Like if 223 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: it's one o'clock and say hey, at five o'clock, I 224 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: might be fifteen minutes late. That's that's perfectly. Usually I'm 225 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: on the way there and I look at the clock 226 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: and say, oh, shoot, that's fine. I do that too, 227 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: but yeah, that's I think. I think you nailed it. 228 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: It makes you feel better. I don't know if it 229 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: makes the person. It depends on the it depends what 230 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: you're doing. I mean, if they got a party of 231 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: a thousand people, like, I don't care if you're fifteen minutes. 232 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 1: If they're having dinner with you at the restaurant and 233 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: they're waiting on you, at least they say, okay, cool, 234 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: Like you have a business appointment, or you got to 235 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: record voiceovers for Western, you're gonna be fifteen minutes. Well, 236 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: here's the thing, they start without you. You gotta let 237 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: him know you didn't forget about it, the whole thing, 238 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: because I've never done that too. I got a reputation. 239 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: I Sometimes you do a thing and it's like, what 240 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: are you talking about? Its like, yeah, you're supposed to 241 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: be downtown in fifteen minutes. I'm like, oh yeah, I 242 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: wasn't even I was sitting here with my feet up. 243 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: You know, that kind of thing that happened to me 244 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: once in a while, but not you know, once in 245 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: a while, not often, but right, you know, So yeah, 246 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: you gotta text and let them know, Hey, I'm gonna 247 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,599 Speaker 1: be a few minutes later. Sorry, Okay, at least it 248 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: let they let you know that you're on it and 249 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: you're trying to get there, and it's not it's out 250 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: of your control. At least, man, do you ever blame 251 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: traffic when there really is no traffic? I do that 252 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 1: a lot too. No, I don't know true ways a 253 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: joke today, I don't know what's going ziffing right through. 254 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: You're unbelievable. I see, I don't do that. Do that 255 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: at least say no. I'll just I'll just say no. 256 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: I blew it earlier that I had. I was running late. 257 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: It was my fault. I'll take, I'll take, I'll take, 258 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: you know, ownership of my mistakes. But and even when 259 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: I totally with, I'm like, listen, you know what it got. 260 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: I was off my radar, I didn't check my calendar, 261 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: and I was I'm sorry, I'm late. Okay, I'm gonna 262 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 1: keep all this in mind for you. And also so 263 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 1: when I tell you, hey, I don't know what you're 264 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: talking about, Like if I say where are you, I'll 265 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: say what? And if I don't know it, if I 266 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: don't know it's about, I'm gonna say, listen, I don't 267 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. That I would know that 268 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: you didn't know what you're talking about. I didn't know 269 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: what you're talking about, I would I would never just 270 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 1: say hey, I wasn't it was never confirmed or what 271 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: you know. I was looking for something from you before 272 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: I you know whatever, if you texted me I have 273 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: no idea what you're talking about, I would know that 274 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: you have no idea what I'm talking about because you 275 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 1: rarely listen to what I'm talking about. And I'm sure 276 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: I'm not the only one. It's it's just that is 277 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: a state you evolve into after working with you. Right 278 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: where he's I know what I can tune into. You're 279 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: like a you know, yeah, you're like a spouse. It's like, oh, 280 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: there are certain keywords you have to tune in for. 281 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: There's something you have to tune in for, and then 282 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 1: the other thing stuff you don't. Okay, And we'll try 283 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: to tune in for the next three hours or so 284 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: because they're gonna be on the right. I'll be listening 285 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: to you for the next three hours. It is one 286 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: Bill's Live. We're here until three. We got Bills football 287 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: to talk about. We got a couple of guests. Dad Brown, 288 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: Sports director Ian Rochester is going to join this at 289 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: one o'clock. He is that I always screw this up. 290 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: He's at Channel eight in Rochester, I think right or 291 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: Channel ten channel eaton Rochester and that is w ROC. 292 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: I got it right. It's d Brown w R OCTV 293 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: sports director in Rochester is going to join us at 294 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: one o'clock, two o'clock, and I'm probably gonna screw this up. 295 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: Shield Capata Capatia, I get that right. Shield Capatia is 296 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: a writer for the Athletic dot Com. You're written a 297 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: couple of lengthy articles. He's written UM twenty bold predictions 298 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty. He's got a list of the top 299 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: one hundred unrestricted free agents. We're just about a month 300 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: away for free agency now. For agency opens on March eighteenth. 301 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: The legal tampering period opens on March sixteenth, so it's 302 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: just about a month away. And Shield Capatia, do I 303 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: have that right? It's gonna be joining us at two o'clock. 304 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: He's written about the top one hundred. A couple of 305 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 1: bills on that list, A couple of bills targets I 306 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: would think on that list for free agency. We'll talk 307 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: with him at two. Those are good, good couple of guests. Yeah, 308 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a good show today on this Thursday, 309 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: as we had, you know, kind of downhill into the 310 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: weekend with you know hill is the operative right because 311 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 1: we're because it's a rough time of year for the 312 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: NFL and it's but it is amazing the league never 313 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: takes time off. You know this monster. We're in a 314 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: dead period right now, as far as you think, oh 315 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: I think we are, but it's a it's a monster, 316 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: and there's still we got got People are churning out 317 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: articles constantly about free agency in Jamis Field dead period, 318 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston's lasic eye surgery. What, oh my gosh, that 319 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: was a straight line for fifty punch lines, thirty interceptions. 320 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: Of course he needs lasic eye surgery. He needs more 321 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: than that. Who was a Mike Tanier that had the 322 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: great one? Was that? Here was I rapport? Is it 323 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport who said thirty for thirty Guy A Field Yates? 324 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: Good goodbye thirty thirty Yellow twenty twenty. Oh my gosh, yeah, 325 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: I got it right here, Yeah, goodbye thirty thirty Hello 326 00:14:54,000 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty Field Yates? About is the NFL is ever present? Yeah, yes, 327 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: news is anyway, but there's really nothing going on a 328 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: couple of so those are the guests today and our 329 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: Twitter question today, and you are the proud author of 330 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: today's Twitter Steve Let's well, it was a collaborative effort, 331 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: because I had nothing to say about collaborative between me 332 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: and Jay Harris. What should the Bill's draft philosophy be 333 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty? It is hold on now. I gotta 334 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: go find it now because I don't really keep it 335 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: at my finger. You wrote it and you walked away 336 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: from him. I did, Here we go, thank you at 337 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: twenty Here we go, stay at twenty two and get 338 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: the best player available. Thirty eight and a half percent 339 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: of you are saying that stay at twenty two and 340 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: get a position of need. Hopefully it would be the 341 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: best player available, but no question, it might be a reach. 342 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: Trade up and get a difference maker, no matter what 343 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: the cost. Really I did, I took that out, But 344 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: that twenty percent of you say to do that and 345 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: trade a mid round picks for more early picks to 346 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: see if you can get guys who you know can contribute. 347 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: Twenty percent of you say that pretty good Twitter pull there, Murph. 348 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: Look at that thirty eight and a half percent, just 349 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: stay pat and get the best player available. Then eighteen 350 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: percent say, stay and get a position of need, twenty 351 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: percent say trade up, and twenty percent say trade other 352 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: picks to get higher. That's a pretty good Twitter poll 353 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: right there. Yeah, I'm just thinking about it because here's 354 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: the thing. If you if you just take a position 355 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: of need, and this is the big quandary that you 356 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: always get in at when you're drafting. If you stay 357 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: at the twenty second pick of the NFL draft and 358 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: you take a position like, for instance, the Bill's take 359 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: an edge rusher or they take a wide receiver, it's 360 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: gonna be one or two things, one of two things. 361 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: Mostly it's gonna be one thing. You're gonna take a 362 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: guy that you could have gotten at thirty or in 363 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: the second round, and you reach for the guy because 364 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: you need a guy at that spot. And you get 365 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: a guy at twenty two that you really need at 366 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: a position, and everybody else had him as a third 367 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: round pick. That's the trouble you cause yourself by staying 368 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: at twenty two that even an option, nobody would nobody 369 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: themes do it all the time. They or what will 370 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: happen is I'll just say he's the best player at 371 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: that position that we need. Obviously, they're going to take 372 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: the best player at that position. But you know they can. 373 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: I see those Twitter results again, anybody who voted for 374 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: that the way you just described it, that's a foolish move, 375 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: right right. But the problem is that twenty two get 376 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: positioned of need. Eighteen percent of the folks think you 377 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: should do that. Yeah, and then when you think only 378 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: thirty and thirty eight percent say get the best player available. Well, 379 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: what if this player at twenty two is a center 380 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: and you've got a guy he can't beat out right, Yeah, 381 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: I guess typically there'll be a couple of guys right 382 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: in the same neighborhood. Well, then he's not you're not 383 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: taking the best player of it. What if there's no 384 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: absolute this is the best player available and there's no dispute. No, 385 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: there's always a dispute, right, there's always Well, that's where 386 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: you get into the gray area, and that's when teams 387 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: start spinning it. After the fact. You know, you get 388 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: a trade or trade up and get a difference maker, 389 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: And well I get traded up and getting a difference maker. 390 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: So you go from twenty two, you take your number, 391 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: you're one, you're three, and you're four, or are three 392 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: and four? Option three and four they're the same thing. 393 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: Not quite. Let's see him again. Trade get a difference maker, 394 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: no matter the cost. Right trade mid round picks for 395 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: additional early trade. And they didn't put. They didn't put, 396 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: no matter the cost. But here's the thing. See that 397 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: the seed options trade up and get a difference maker. 398 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: And the trouble with that is, what if you had 399 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: to take a trade this year's one, this year's two, 400 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: next year's one, and next year's two to move up 401 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: eight spots and you get a good spot, you get 402 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: a good guy. You get a Tremaine Edmonds, or you 403 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: get a Devin Singletary or somebody like that, or Joey Bosa. 404 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: You know, you get a guy who's who's going to 405 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: be dominant. But you have to give up four other players, 406 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: three other opportunities to do it. And this is and 407 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you what do you and we should 408 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: put this and write this down. Uh, I am for 409 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: tomorrow's Twitter poll just think day and I know, but 410 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: how good have the Bills drafted? You know? Do you 411 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: trust him? Since swim, since Brandon being and Sean McDermot 412 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: have been doing They've done, Brandon's done two drafts. McBean 413 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,479 Speaker 1: mcdermot's done three. I've been a part of three of them. 414 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: I think they drafted well. Yeah, so do you just 415 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: trust them? Say hey, we'll just take the nine picks, 416 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: because out of those nine guys this last draft, man, 417 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: they got a ton of good guys. Yeah. They have 418 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,239 Speaker 1: traded up though in right, three drafts, right, but they 419 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: didn't do it all the time, right, right, And I 420 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: get it, you want to stay fluid. Moved up to 421 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: get even last year, to get them Cody Ford a 422 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: little bit there. Yeah, they've been white, Tremaine Edmonds, Josh 423 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: Devin Singletary, Dawson Knox. I mean that got some guy 424 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: Matt Milano in a fifth round. So do you do 425 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: you say, artists, I trust our guys. Let's keep all 426 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: nine of the picks we got in this draft and 427 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: just trust that even in the sixth and seventh rounds 428 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna get some guys. Because remember we had two 429 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: receivers last in was it Ray Ray McLeod and Austin Prole. Yeah, okay, 430 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: both those guys. Both those guys were off the team 431 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: for a minute. I think Ray Ray's back in the 432 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: fold as a practice squad guy, you know, I mean 433 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: it's hard to find guys that can contribute when you're 434 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: going in the You got five picks in the last 435 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: two rounds. Yeah, so, and here the bills with the 436 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: list is what one pick in the fourth, two picks 437 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: in the fifth, three picks in the sixth. Maybe you 438 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: don't want to just sit there with you know, those 439 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: six picks in the fourth, fifth, and sixth round. Maybe 440 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: you want to move up. We got no seventh round pick. Yeah, 441 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: I don't know if you'll miss them right, And I 442 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: don't know if Brownie has pointed this out a couple 443 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Yeah, the opportunity for the second or 444 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: third sixth round pick or the second fifth round pick 445 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: to make the roster is diminished this year because they've 446 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: drafted well. Because so maybe you move guys, you move up. 447 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: You use those to move around the draft a little bit, 448 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: move around the second or the third, or even the 449 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: first round if you can. So say that, you say 450 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: you keep your first, second, third round, and you got 451 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: the fourth rounder, two fifths and the six that's six 452 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: picks that are fourth round er later six picks, do 453 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: you a bundle them and get up into the first 454 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: A bundle them and then trade your twenty second pick 455 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: the first round with those six picks, like seven picks, 456 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: and you go up higher into the first round if 457 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: you can maybe, yeah, if there's somebody you really like 458 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: your if you if you can find a taker, depends 459 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: on how high too. You're at twenty two. You're not 460 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: gonna do it to move up to eighteen, right, I 461 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: don't know how much farther you can move. You're giving 462 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: people unders well, they get a they get a twenty 463 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: second pick, right, and they get the six picks in 464 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: the last half of the round. You know, how high 465 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: depends who who is it and how hi are you 466 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: gonna move? Yeah, i'd move up inside the top ten 467 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: with that, right if you could. I don't know if 468 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: you can with seven picks. Yeah, I don't know if 469 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: you can. And I don't know. I don't know. That's 470 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 1: the that's the key. But but that's what this whole 471 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: Twitter poll is about. What's your philosophy? And I and 472 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: I know too, I saw one really good one yesterday 473 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: in response to our Twitter poll yesterday. Listen, just trust 474 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: this guy, trust the process, and that's how we're gonna 475 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: that's about our um poll. It's gonna be tomorrow. You 476 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: know how how much you trust these guys to you know, 477 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: do you want them just have a bunch of picks 478 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: because soon you know they're gonna hit on the same percentage, 479 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: even if most of them are down low in the draft. 480 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. If I don't think so, 481 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: I'd rather have trade those six picks for like two thirds, right, 482 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: I would if you could, if you could do it. Yeah, 483 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can, if the value is there, 484 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: And would you trade some of the players that you 485 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: like here on your own squad in addition to those picks? 486 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: You know, the draft is two months away. We got 487 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: a long conversation coming up. Yeah, we do. It's endless though, 488 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: it really is because and I told you this too 489 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: when we're getting ready for this where we're gonna talk, 490 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: I said, listen, we're gonna when we go to the 491 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: Combine in two weeks, we're gonna see these guys. And 492 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: I remember you last year with DK met Metcalf. You're 493 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: wearing me out. And I'll be the first to tell 494 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: you right, you were right the wrong guy where we at. 495 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: You wore me out, but you are right. Thank you. 496 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: Once I'll give you that I want to see it 497 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: again before I actually be because I'm gonna wear you 498 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: out this year with somebody. I'm gonna find my guy 499 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: this year, and I want to wear you out. What 500 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: should the Bills draft philosophy be this year? Give us 501 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: a call eight h three h five fifty toll free 502 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty some 503 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: of the tweets. You're ready for the tweets you you've 504 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 1: got something else? Nah, I don't know. Tweets you brought 505 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movers of 506 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. I don't want to short change it. 507 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: You got something to say, Nah, It's right, Eric, He's 508 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: got it. He says, I'd rather have an extra second 509 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: or third than a bunch of fifth and sixth. We 510 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: need talent more than depth at this point, I don't 511 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: care talent more than depth, Huh. I mean depth maybe 512 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: all you can get. Well, if you make a move, 513 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: we're good. When we got we're a ten win team. 514 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: Eric is pointed much more are in a much more 515 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: articulate manner. He's pointed out what you and I have 516 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: been talking about for the last five minutes. Whether they 517 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: have an extra second or third who can make any 518 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: eat immediate impact than a bunch of fifth and six rounders. 519 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: Higher picks are more probable to contribute just because they're bigger, stronger, faster, 520 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: can jump higher, They're just bigger physical specimens. That's why 521 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: these gout and say what you want. That's why scouts 522 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: go out and look at these guys. That's why at 523 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: the combine, we've all seen the picture of Tom Brady 524 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: a thousand times. You're standing there in your gym shorts. 525 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: They want to get their eyes on this guy. What's 526 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: he looked like getting off the bus in a suit? 527 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: Forget about what he looks like in a in a uniform. 528 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: What's that guy look as he an NFL body? I 529 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: want to look at and see. And then they get 530 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: him out and run him around and see and that 531 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: turns heads and get them drafted in the sixth round, right, 532 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: it does. That's what gets gets you drafted in the 533 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: sixth round. Because I'll tell you what you walk out. 534 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: Because I've told the story a thousand times. I had 535 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: no trouble exceeding expectations in my career because he took 536 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: one look at me, and it's like it's like, yeah, 537 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: whose little brother is that guy? Like, why are you 538 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 1: in the locker room on game day? Right? They didn't 539 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: think I was even a player, so I could. I 540 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: could always exceed expectations because the bar was really low. 541 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: The bar gets really high when you see these guys 542 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: come in from all around the country and they walk 543 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,239 Speaker 1: in and they're doing verticals and they're walking around. They 544 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: looked like pro athletes. They get invited to this thing 545 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: because they're impressive and the out scouts want to see them. 546 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: Were you motivated by that when you played? Oh? Sure, 547 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: that really wasn't I didn't have a chip on my 548 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: shoulder because I lived like that. I was a you know, 549 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: we're sorry. I was as young as of four brothers. 550 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: I grew up being that kid, you know, and just 551 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: saying I just not caring what you thought because I knew, 552 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,719 Speaker 1: you know, I could, and I knew I was limited 553 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: when I was coming up through the ranks in college, 554 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: and I worked really hard at getting strong enough. I 555 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: thought that was my whole thing. I knew I was fast, 556 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: but I had to get I waited a buck forty 557 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: five as a freshman in college, right right, I mean, 558 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: and I was a little scrawny white kid from a 559 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: farming community, from no place right from the field. I 560 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: was a hay seed, so I knew what I looked. 561 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: So I knew I had to make myself look as 562 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: strong and as thick as I could to even just 563 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: get past the stiff arm like the coach. They wouldnt 564 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: even let me run, let alone do it. So I 565 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: started some. I went to Junior Community College, We're out, 566 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: got wrecked in and put together some numbers there and 567 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: some film, and that got me to the point where 568 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: they saw me on film. Then they could got me 569 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: to the point where they'd get past, you know, taking 570 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: one look at me and going please anybody, And even 571 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: that it didn't anybody who aside Northwestern give you a 572 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: second look. Northern Iowa, Okay, Western Kentucky. And very late 573 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: after I decided to go to Northwestern, very late, I 574 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: got a call from cal But that was when Joe 575 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: Capp had just gotten hired as their head coach, and 576 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: they did they were just looking for bodies, you know, 577 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm already I said, I don't 578 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: why we're off on a tangent here, Why did you 579 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: choose Northwestern? Highest level Okay, Big ten highest level because 580 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: Northern Iowa was in you know, it was a it 581 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: might I don't know if they're Division one, they might 582 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: be Division I can't even remember now. But they played 583 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: in wars up in up in Waterloo, Iowa. And then 584 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: Bryce Pop Okay and Kurt Warner made him Yeah, and 585 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: then Western Kentucky, Western Kentucky down the Hilltoppers, Yeah and um, 586 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: and I would have gone there and played. But I 587 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: had a chance to play in the Big Ten, you know, 588 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: in Michigan, Ohio State playing the Horseshoe, playing the Big House. 589 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: I was injured both I never got to play. But 590 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 1: I played against him at home, but I never got 591 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: a chance to play him on the road. So yeah, 592 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: that's why I went there. And I've I had NFL 593 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: scouts come in. They'd get into town, and that's it 594 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: was different back then. I never got invited to the combine. 595 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: I'd get the word on a Friday and say, hey, 596 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: on Tuesday, this coming week, they're going to come in 597 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: to look at you, coach, the the the scout from Seattle, 598 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: or the scout from Denver, the scout from Canada, whatever, 599 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: and I say okay, and I'd just show up and 600 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: be ready then and I'd work, I'd walk in and 601 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: I could tell right away they were like, we made 602 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: a big state, Like what time's my flight? You know, 603 00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,959 Speaker 1: I gotta get out there. You didn't you work out 604 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 1: with other Northwestern potential pros most of the time? Yea, 605 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: most of the time. But you could tell when they 606 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: got to look at you, they were like, no way, 607 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: I tested really well. Yeah, And they would have me 608 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: run it again to make sure they weren't and again 609 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: and again. What a great story this is. Did you 610 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: ever ask the Houston Texans why they drafted you in 611 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: the seventh round, ninth round? Did you ever ask any 612 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: who was responsible for that pick? Bill Bell was the 613 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: scouts name. I believe I got his name right, And 614 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: you know, I'll tell you it might have been because 615 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: they had Hugh Campbell as their head coach, and they 616 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: had hired Hugh Campbell from the Canadian Football League and 617 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: they were used to seeing guys like me, okay they 618 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: could play, and they weren't as adverse to it. And 619 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: they were, and they they drafted three guys my year 620 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: that we were all just alike, was me, Micah Coup 621 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: and Bill Willie Drewy, who went on to have a 622 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: nice nine year career too for around the league. So yeah, 623 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: there were all three and we were all alike. We 624 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: were all short guys that were fast. What a great story. 625 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: Well just listen to this all day. Yeah, seriously, the 626 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: Steve tax I know what I'm being told to shut up? No, 627 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: I feel like I should write this book Steve story. Yeah, No, 628 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: have you written a book? I know you've written a book, 629 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: but it was it was stories about the team. Yeah, 630 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: the fun we had about your story. You should sit down. 631 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys who better stories than me. 632 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, I got what are you doing? Come 633 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: on hockey games a week? No, you know you've got 634 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: plenty of bad time to call that, right, Hey, let's 635 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: take some phone calls when we come back. What should 636 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: the Bills draft philosophy be this year? It should have 637 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: changed from the way it's been. Give us a call. 638 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: Eight oh three five fifty toll free one eight eight 639 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. We got that brown 640 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: coming up, we got shield capatia coming up. We're gonna 641 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: talk to some Bills football in the NFL football today 642 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: with you, it is one Bills Live presented by a 643 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: Lot of Health from the Seneca Studio on Archer Park, 644 00:29:52,120 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: Seneca Resorts and Casino. Nothing comes close. Good Afternoon, One 645 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: goes five. John Murphy's Team Task Your here until three. 646 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: We got Thad Brown from w r OCTV and Rochester 647 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: coming up in one to talk some Bills football. And 648 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: we got a reporter NFL writer for the Athletic Shield, Kapadia, 649 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: coming on at two o'clock. He's written the Top free 650 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: Agents one under Top free Agents. We're just about a 651 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: month away. I'm gonna start a free agency talking about 652 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: the draft though today and we want to get your 653 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,959 Speaker 1: comments on this. Eighth three five fifty toll free one 654 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. What do 655 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: you think the Bills approach should be in the draft? 656 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: What should be the Bills draft philosophy in twenty twenty? 657 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: We give you a couple of options on the Twitter poll. 658 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: You can let us know what you think of those options. 659 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: Let's check it right now. What should the Bills draft 660 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: philosophy be in twenty twenty? Well, most of you and 661 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a pretty even fight. But most of you, 662 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: thirty seven percent say you should stay at twenty two 663 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: get the best player available. That makes sense. Next, twenty 664 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: three percent of you say you should trade mid round 665 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: picks for additional early round picks. That makes sense as well. 666 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: Twenty percent say you should stay at twenty two and 667 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: distract position of need. Twenty percent you should trade up 668 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: and try to get a difference maker. Let's know what 669 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: you think. The phone lines open eight oh three five 670 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two. 671 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: You got something to say. It's weird man picking at 672 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,479 Speaker 1: twenty two like we are. It's unusual. Yeah, I mean 673 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: it's a sign of the team obviously getting a lot 674 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: better than It's hard to imagine you getting the exact 675 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: guy you want at twenty two, right, Yeah, you can't 676 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: count out. There's twenty people going yea, and plus somebody 677 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: might trade in from from left field and get it. 678 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: So you gotta the philosophy this year for this team 679 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: is completely different. I mean, certainly they want to maximize 680 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: the picks they've gotten, package them and get the guys 681 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: and maybe get a chance to trade up and they'll 682 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: move around if and this will happen, because we don't 683 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: even know which guys they like. You know, there's gonna 684 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: be somebody they like it. And you know this too, 685 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: we've seen this in the last couple of years too. 686 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: Don't forget through free agency. They're gonna get to a 687 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: spot where they don't have what they've called a positional emergency. 688 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: They're gonna be able to take. They're not gonna be 689 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: as needy as they seem to be right at this minute. 690 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: Right they're gonna sign. They're gonna sign some some veteran 691 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: wide receivers. They're gonna sign some offensive linem they're gonna 692 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: sign some defensive lineman. They're gonna sign the edge rushers 693 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: and all these guys. They're gonna sign some of these 694 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: guys and maybe some names we recognize. But even so, 695 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: they're gonna try and get to a spot where if 696 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: it is if it is a center or a guard 697 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: or whatever, whatever, they can pick pick the guy. If 698 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: if it's a safety, they can take the best safety 699 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: off the board. They can. If it's a you know, 700 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: a middle linebacker, they can do you know whatever, some 701 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: of these positions where we think we're pretty solid in, 702 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: they still may take that guy knowing he's going to 703 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: be a really good pro So free agency and the 704 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: first couple of weeks of that are gonna tell us 705 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: a lot about you know, at least about more about 706 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: the process, about them getting to a place where they 707 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: don't have any position of need anymore. They're gonna have 708 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: a bunch of wide receiver and I think a couple 709 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: of wide receivers probably that we're gonna say, oh, I 710 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: don't know, that guy's not bad. Let's see. You know, 711 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: he may not be aj Green or or Julio Jones 712 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: or DeAndre Hopkins, but I've seen that guy play pretty well, 713 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: you know, stuff like that. I mean, what happens if 714 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: they get a Stefan Diggs, you know, it's like, hey, 715 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, home run that kind of thing. Or what 716 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: happens if they get Chris Jones from the Chiefs, you 717 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: know as an edge rusher. It's like, hey, there we go. 718 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: We're on it now. You know, some of these guys, 719 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff going on here, and we're 720 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: we don't even know what the team's gonna look like 721 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: in you know, two weeks after free agency opens up. 722 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: So I think the philosophy is just what it's always been. 723 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: Get to a place where you can take the best 724 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 1: player left on the board, no matter who it is, right, 725 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: that's I think that's the goal. Yeah, I agree, because 726 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: then you feel you still feel good about your roster. Yeah, 727 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: I agree. I think that's what they would aim for. 728 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: Whether they can do that. As another story, take some 729 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: phone calls here. Let's go to Nick in Depew. Hello, Nick, 730 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: you're on the air with this go ahead, you're on 731 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: the air. Hi, how you guys doing today? Real good? 732 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 1: Thank you. I just wanted to say, I think Brandon 733 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: Being has shown that he's a pretty good evaluator of talent. 734 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: So I got no problem with sitting at twenty twenty 735 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: two or even moving down. And I think he's gonna 736 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: get a guy no matter where we are in the draft, 737 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 1: even the mid to late rounds, who's gonna come in 738 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: and at least push for a spot. He's got a 739 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: good track record of, you know, evaluating talent. Well, I 740 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: agree with you. Yeah, for the most part, I agree 741 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: with you, and I do trust Brandon Being and his 742 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: entire personnel department to uh, as Steed points out, start 743 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: the process in a month with free agents and have 744 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: a couple of the targeted free agents in mind. Maybe 745 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: not not not the top of the list, but some 746 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: good targeted free agents and then built from that. They 747 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: will know the and this is the question I'd love 748 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: to ask Brandon, But they will know the value too, 749 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: like how much do you want to spend for let's 750 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: say a receiver in the free agent market, and how 751 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: much is he worth? Maybe it's not worth what you 752 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: have to pay, and maybe you wait until the draft 753 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: to add your for your wide receiver. Right, I mean 754 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: that those are the considerations go into it. Right, Cash 755 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: is always, you know, a consideration, and it's gonna be 756 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: interesting to see, you know, where they value it and 757 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: if they're gonna and I would say this, remember this 758 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: has happened every year. Mitch Morris last year was kind 759 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: of a home run Starlow to Lelae and three two 760 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 1: years ago the two Safeties, poor year in Hide. Those 761 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: are kind of big deals. There was like thirty five 762 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: forty million dollars deals they signed with those guys. So 763 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a couple of those, one or two 764 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: of those contracts. Trent Murphy, Starlo tu Lelay and I'm 765 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: anxious to see where those guys are gonna look like. 766 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: Mitch Morse last year made him the highest paid center 767 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: in the league. So they're willing to do that for 768 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: guys if they think they're the right guy. And but 769 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: here's the thing. It's different making Mitch Moore's the highest 770 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: paid center in the league and making your quarterback the 771 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: highest paid quarterback. I mean, you're talking about thirty million 772 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 1: dollars a difference there or something like that. So there's 773 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: a big number difference to park talking about positions. But 774 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: there seemed to be willing to do it if it 775 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: fits within the structure of what and accepted roster looks like. 776 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: You know, so maybe they do need maybe they do 777 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: have a high value on a number one receiver, and 778 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: they're willing to do it. I just think it's really 779 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: intriguing and I and I've grown to I think like 780 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: a lot of people haven't saying, yeah, okay, I'm starting 781 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: to trust these guys to get it right because you 782 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: see him have some success with some of their picks. 783 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: I trust them get the whole picture right if they can, 784 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: and the work hard to get it right. Here's Ryan 785 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: on the line from Toronto. Go ahead, and Ryan, you're 786 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 1: on the air. Great, good, good. The budget is that 787 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: how I know the Birds they want they want a 788 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: wide receivers. Again that the twenty seconds of the draft. 789 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 1: As soon as the Indigos who actually want a boy, 790 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 1: the Bills that put it first, and Eagles also launt 791 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: a wide receiver. US, it doesn't make sense with the 792 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 1: ninth six the builds AFP to pay it up to 793 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: be above the Eagles and get the best to the 794 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 1: best whites evers possible. And I'd hand up a limping Yeah, Ryan, 795 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: I agree. Um, there you know there are some teams 796 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 1: up there that would love a wide receiver and there's 797 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 1: a couple of wide receivers that are difference makers. Um, 798 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,439 Speaker 1: how much is it gonna cost to get that guy 799 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: in the draft? Does he fit here emotionally and culturally? 800 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 1: And all that is? You have the right DNA And 801 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: maybe it may be true that neither one of those 802 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: top two guys that we've been talking about do that. 803 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: If because here's the thing. If you don't get the 804 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: wide receiver you want, or you don't spend the money 805 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,879 Speaker 1: on that or whatever whatever you do, want to spend 806 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: that money someplace where it's gonna help you win. You 807 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: got to get value for the money you spend. If 808 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: you're going to spend it, You're not. I don't think 809 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 1: you'll win the Super Bowl or get into the playoffs 810 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: unless you're getting value right up to how much you're spending, 811 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: and in some cases, like with a rookie quarterback contract, 812 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,919 Speaker 1: you should be getting more value than that. So that's 813 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 1: what it's going to come down to, is how much 814 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: is it gonna take and how how they have to 815 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 1: jump to trade up in the draft this. I know 816 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: Brandon being a Sean mcdermmot, will trade up if they 817 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 1: find a need to and they'll pull the trigger on it, 818 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,320 Speaker 1: but they're not going to cripple themselves later on to 819 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: do it. Charlie and Buffalo is on the line. Hello Charlie, Hi, 820 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: John and Steve. How you doing this afternover? We're doing 821 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: pretty well. My opinion is I think it's a very 822 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: important thing with any team in the NFL. The drafts 823 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: players and brings free agents or even trades players here, 824 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: you have to look at their personality, how they fit 825 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: in with the organization and their attitude if they want 826 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: to play for a team like Buffalo, because I think 827 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 1: if they go after good players, they have a good 828 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: attitude and their personality fits them. With Sean mcderman. I 829 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:20,800 Speaker 1: think we can have some hell of a good football 830 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 1: players here. That's all I got to say. Okay, thank you, right, 831 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: I just yes, what I just mentioned. You got to 832 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 1: make sure they're the right guy. That's why they talk 833 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 1: to these guys. That's why they sit them down at 834 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: the combine, that's why they go to their pro days, 835 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: why they went to the Senior Bulls. They can sit 836 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: down in a little bit more off the cuff to 837 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: find out really who they are, because at this combine 838 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 1: it's a little difficult because they're all on right, they 839 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 1: all know they're being interviewed, they all know they're supposed 840 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 1: to impress everybody in the room. They're going to get 841 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: some questions that they maybe they didn't expect or whatever. 842 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: They got to have a response. Ready, you don't really 843 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: find out who they are at their core, or sometimes 844 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: it's too hard to do that. And you know, every 845 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: team in the league has stories about guys who wowed 846 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 1: him in the interview process and then turned out, you know, 847 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: turned out to be bricks. So yeah, it's hard to do, 848 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 1: but you're right, it's an enormously important aspect of this 849 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: combine and this whole scouting process is to find out 850 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: and if you can't anticipate what they're going to be 851 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: like as a pro football player instead of a college 852 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: football player, because there's a big difference. Thanks you for 853 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 1: your call. We got a breakcre We're coming back with more. 854 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,760 Speaker 1: One Go Slide presented by Kalida Health from the Seneca Studio. 855 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:46,359 Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio Welcome Back, One Goes Live, 856 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Taser. We got that brown coming in 857 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: from w r octv Ian Rochester in a couple of minutes, 858 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 1: coming on the line with us, and then we'll talk 859 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,800 Speaker 1: about the free agency and we'll talk about big offseason 860 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 1: stories with the writer from the athletic dot com sheel Kapedia. 861 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: Now I've said it the same way and nobody's correcting me. 862 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: I'm assuming that's right. That's the right way. You're assuming 863 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: anybody in this building knows. I'm assuming somebody's listening. I 864 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,879 Speaker 1: guess that's the biggest assumption, right. Usually people are quick 865 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: to correct. Yeah, that's true. Our Twitter poll today is 866 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: an interesting one. What should the Bill's draft philosophy be? 867 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 1: If you have thoughts on that, give us a call. 868 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: Eight h three oh five fifty toll free one eight 869 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Did you see this? 870 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 1: Steve ron rivera former head coach of the Carolina Panthers, 871 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 1: the new head coach of the Washington Redskins. I've often 872 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: wondered what you're supposed to do with this stuff if 873 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: you're a coach or somebody and you get changed, if 874 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 1: you lead that team, go somewhere else. Rondover is going 875 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 1: to have a charity yard sale for all of us 876 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: old Panthers stuff. Now you know how much of these clothes, 877 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,439 Speaker 1: this clothing we get. You mentioned how much a coach 878 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: gets after how many years was he there? Like eight years, 879 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: seventy years, Scott, He's got enough for a yards It's 880 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 1: a great idea, right. Plus it's it's like a collector's idea. 881 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 1: If it's not just you're going to buy a a 882 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: Bills pull over or Carolina tan Panthers. That's that's a 883 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: frame it. You said this head coach Warren, right, and 884 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's there's Oh yeah, I wore that in 885 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: this game. Oh you mean that game where we beat 886 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. Yeah, that was a game I wore that. 887 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 1: He's probably making it right. But either way, Yeah, you 888 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 1: can go back and get pictures of him in it. Yeah, 889 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,399 Speaker 1: you frame it right, put it in your man cave, 890 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 1: and yeah, it's it's weird. He's gonna if he's gonna 891 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: be at his yard sale, he'll autographic, right, Yeah, a 892 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: charity yard sale, Ron Rivera all of his old Panthers stuff. 893 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 1: It's a good idea for you and I right, how 894 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: much bills stuff? You You have more than I do. 895 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure I don't know. You think, Oh, yeah, I do, 896 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: I do, I do. I forgot. I was gonna say 897 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 1: in my closet that I wear. Now I've got to 898 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: I've got a an attic full of stuff. Too bad. 899 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: It's not too bad. It's not eighties, nine or nineties. Yea, yeah, 900 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 1: I got a lot of that stuff. Yeah, it's good. 901 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 1: It is. When you're a coach, you sign up for 902 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: that life. I mean, I had long conversations with my guy. 903 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 1: Frank Reich is one of them. You know, he kind 904 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 1: of got to know what you're signing up for. He 905 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,720 Speaker 1: was with the San Diego Chargers, with the Indianapolis Colts, 906 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 1: then he was with the or with the Eagles. He 907 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 1: was with the Arizona Cardinals for a year, and you 908 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 1: know that then he's back with the Colts as their 909 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: head coach. And all the gear he gets for that stuff, 910 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,280 Speaker 1: what did you do with it? I have no idea. 911 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 1: I have no idea. You know, recycling, what do you 912 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,800 Speaker 1: do with you know, give it back to the team. 913 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. For the next guy, I don't know. 914 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 1: But it's you sign up for that lifestyle as a coach, 915 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 1: and you're lucky if you can get a one decade 916 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: out of a play out of one stop. You know, 917 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: it's just the way life is that in that industry. 918 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: Another news it him and this happened the other day. 919 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 1: Michael Irvin, Hall of Famer, famous Cowboys wide receiver. He's 920 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 1: been talking. Everybody's got the inside track on what this 921 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: team's doing, that team is doing. Michael Irvin obviously feels 922 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 1: like he knows what the Cowboys are doing. He told 923 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: people that the Cowboys are going to trade Dak Prescott. 924 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,760 Speaker 1: They know they're talking about trading Dak Prescott and signing 925 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. According to Michael Irvan, that's being discussed by 926 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 1: quote significant people. But he also came back later and 927 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 1: said the significant people he was talking about weren't affiliated 928 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: with the Cowboys. What does he mean significant people? I 929 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: don't significant to him. I guess the Cowboys aren't trading 930 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott from Yeah, come on, Michael, I don't know. 931 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 1: I listen. I like Michael Irvan, but yeah, that's he 932 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 1: Some of these guys. Can you have to backpedal as 933 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: soon as you say it. I mean I've been in 934 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 1: that spot, right, I mean you've never done Yeah. All right, 935 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,839 Speaker 1: we we're gonna take a break. We're gonna come back 936 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 1: and talk with Ed Brown from w r OCTV in Rochester. 937 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 1: Sports Director there. That's coming up when we return. One. 938 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Kalidah Health from the Seneca Studio. 939 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Hello, Radio Network Sports Up. 940 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: He comes to you from Bill's Drive around the NFL. 941 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,879 Speaker 1: Demante freeman future in Atlanta is in doubt right now, 942 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 1: it appears to running backs deal with the Falcons maybe 943 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: nearing an end. NFL Network reports the Falcons are considering 944 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: parting ways with Freeman less than halfway through is five 945 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,360 Speaker 1: year contract extension. Sean McVeigh retooled his staff during this 946 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 1: past offseason. Already gone defense coordinator Wade Phillips, special teams 947 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 1: coordinator John Fossil, among others. In their place, the Rams 948 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: have added new offensive coordinator Kevin O'Connell, defense coordinator Brandon Staley, 949 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: and special teams coordinator John van Amigo. The changes have 950 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 1: McVay excited about fresh new perspectives in his building. The 951 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 1: Rams finished nine and seven last year. Speculation surrounding the 952 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 1: future of quarterback Matthew Stafford and Detroit has percolated since 953 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 1: the offseason began. Wednesday night a report from a Detroit 954 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 1: television station that trade talks involving the quarterback have been 955 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 1: underway for a couple of weeks. The Lions pounced this 956 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 1: morning to reject that report one false. General manager Bob 957 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 1: Quinn wrote in a text message to a reporter at 958 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: the Detroit Free Press. Former quarterback Colin Kaepernick is going 959 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 1: to release a memoir sometime this year through a company 960 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: he founded called Kaepernick Publishing. According to a statement released 961 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 1: by the publisher, the memoir will share the life experiences 962 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: that led Kaepernick to risk his career as a quarterback 963 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 1: in one silent active protest. Nick Kissario is going to 964 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 1: stay in New England after the Houston Texans put the 965 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 1: restroomors that he may had to the Houston Texans. They 966 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 1: made general manager Bruce or Bill O'Brien the general manager 967 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 1: the Patriots this week, a great terms and a contract 968 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 1: extension with Caserio, their director of player personnel. He's been 969 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: with the Patriots and a variety of jobs since two 970 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,879 Speaker 1: thousand and one. It's two thousands Night at the Key 971 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 1: Bank Center tonight the Savers take down the Columbus Jackets 972 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 1: seven o'clock face off. The night will kick off with 973 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 1: alumni appearances from the two thousand years, including a special 974 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 1: pregame ceremony to honor former owner Tom Gallisto. And that's 975 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 1: the update from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy, Steve Kasker 976 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 1: here in Orchard Park, joined on the line by a 977 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,320 Speaker 1: guy who covers the Bills pretty closely. Has been The 978 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 1: Bill's sideline reporter so the last couple of years on 979 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 1: the preseason game cover the Bill since two thousand, twenty 980 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: years now, and of course is sports director at w 981 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 1: ro OCTV in Rochester. We're happy to have Ed Brown 982 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 1: on the line with us. Hello, Thad, good to see 983 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,720 Speaker 1: how you been. Hey guys, how you doing? Happy Ellie 984 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 1: Valentine's Data Buffalo Bill's favorite couple. Yeah, there you go. 985 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 1: You don't know, it's very well? Yeah yeah, So what 986 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 1: do you think? What's what's if you're Brandon being impersonating, 987 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: what's on the front of your stove right now? What 988 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 1: are you looking at? I think, you know, considering what 989 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 1: I want to do with the guys I have is 990 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 1: the first thing I'm thinking about right now. Do I 991 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: want to sign Trade White right this second? You know, 992 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: maybe what's my plan with Josh Allen down the road? 993 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 1: I want to make sure I have my internal ducks 994 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 1: in a row before i'm I'm looking outside. But when 995 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 1: it comes to free agency, you know, the thing that 996 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 1: I think the Bills can really make an impact this 997 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 1: year is with the pass rusher. I think there's a 998 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 1: pretty elite group of pass rushers available in free agency 999 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 1: and a group that can, you know, make you elite 1000 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 1: in that spot. I think it's hard to find elite 1001 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 1: players when it comes to free agency. Guys who are 1002 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 1: elite don't make it the free agency because they're elite. 1003 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,840 Speaker 1: And I think the Bills have an opportunity with that 1004 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 1: group maybe to make an impact. And when it comes 1005 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 1: to signing guys off the street. So I grabbed my 1006 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 1: my free agent list and take me through some of 1007 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,719 Speaker 1: the names you think are elite pass rusher catch you're 1008 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 1: looking at ed rushers, edge rushers in particular, I would think, right, 1009 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 1: I think in Gatway is the first one that comes 1010 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 1: to mind. I'm not sure he's gonna get free, and really, 1011 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 1: I don't know how many of these guys are going 1012 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 1: to get free, but you know, he's the number one 1013 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 1: guy off the top of my head. You know, I 1014 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,400 Speaker 1: know there's a guy like Chris Jones was available from 1015 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,400 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I don't think he really fit the Bills system, 1016 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 1: but I think overall, that's the position group that I 1017 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 1: look at. I think if you look at everything else too, 1018 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 1: you know, was wide receiver or maybe offensive tackle or 1019 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,279 Speaker 1: a spot where the Bills could look. I don't think 1020 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,240 Speaker 1: there's as deep a group as there is potentially available 1021 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 1: when it comes to agree rusher or pass rusher in general. 1022 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 1: The line with Dan Brown from w r OCTV while 1023 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 1: we're talking about defensive lineman, can I ask you this 1024 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 1: set that a report from Jason lacon for that the 1025 00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,400 Speaker 1: Bills would put the franchise tag on Jordan Philps or 1026 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 1: could put the franchise tag on Jordan Phillips. I'm not 1027 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,320 Speaker 1: buying that, are you, No, not one bit. It just 1028 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,359 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense for a whole lot of different reasons. 1029 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,760 Speaker 1: I mean, number one, you know, why are you committing 1030 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars for this year to a guy whose 1031 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 1: job will primarily be to take at Oliver off the field? 1032 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,400 Speaker 1: I mean at Oliver was, you know, one of the 1033 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,799 Speaker 1: best players on the Bill's defense end of last year, 1034 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,320 Speaker 1: A guy who you want to see continue to develop. 1035 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 1: They play the same position. So why am I paying 1036 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 1: all that money to that guy to bring at Oliver 1037 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:30,759 Speaker 1: put him on the sidelines. And then, if you do 1038 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 1: want to play Jordan Phillips and at Oliver together, when 1039 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 1: I are playing Jordan Phillips at his second best spot. 1040 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 1: So again, why am I paying fifteen million dollars to 1041 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 1: play a guy at the spot where he's not best? 1042 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,719 Speaker 1: And the third thing about this that maybe mystifies us 1043 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 1: here in Western New York. You know, I look at 1044 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:47,880 Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips as a guy who had nine and a 1045 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,799 Speaker 1: half sacks last year in interior defensive linemen. I mean, 1046 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 1: those guys are hard to find. My gut field at 1047 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 1: the end of the last season was that he's gonna 1048 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: get paid and probably a number, you know, well over 1049 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 1: eight figures. But if you look around that the national guys, 1050 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 1: the publications that put out you know who are the 1051 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,320 Speaker 1: top fifty free agents, top one hundred free agents available, 1052 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,880 Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips is nowhere to be found right now. Doesn't 1053 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 1: mean that those guys are right and I'm wrong or 1054 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,839 Speaker 1: we're wrong, but I think it does mean that maybe 1055 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,400 Speaker 1: Jordan phillips value is not as high as we might 1056 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 1: think it to be, and therefore you might not have 1057 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,799 Speaker 1: to pay that guy ten million dollars to keep him 1058 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 1: in Buffalo. So if that's the case, why are we 1059 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,399 Speaker 1: giving him a fifteen million? So on a million levels 1060 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 1: that that idea franchise tagging it makes no sense. But 1061 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 1: what about Shack Lawson. I like Shack Lawson. I think 1062 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 1: the Bills should. I don't want to say do whatever 1063 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 1: it takes, but I think Shack Lawson. Again, at the 1064 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 1: end of the last season, I thought Shack Lawson would 1065 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 1: be the less were valued player league wide, And yet 1066 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,439 Speaker 1: I go back to those lists, you can find Shack 1067 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 1: Lawson somewhere in the fifties and sixties in terms of 1068 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 1: available free agents. So it's possible that around the league 1069 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,239 Speaker 1: Shack Lowson may have higher value than Jordan Phillips, even 1070 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 1: though Jordan Phillips had five more sacks last year. I 1071 00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 1: think I like the ability of Shack loss Remember, this 1072 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,239 Speaker 1: is the guy who was a first round pick, so 1073 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 1: he had elite talent coming out of college. And maybe look, 1074 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,320 Speaker 1: maybe it took him three or four years to finally 1075 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,760 Speaker 1: realize it. Maybe he's finally you know, he was injured 1076 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,759 Speaker 1: at the start. You know, maybe wasn't it a good 1077 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,680 Speaker 1: place mentally at the start. Maybe he's finally found his spot. 1078 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 1: And again I don't think he's going to break the bank. 1079 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 1: I think at the worst, you know, he's going to 1080 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 1: be a very solid second defensive end, a guy who 1081 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 1: can do a lot of different things, can defend the run, 1082 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,879 Speaker 1: can get to the quarterback. So I'm a big fan 1083 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,880 Speaker 1: of the Bills, like I said, doing almost whatever it 1084 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 1: takes keeping Shack Lawson around. And than I thought it 1085 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:32,640 Speaker 1: was a typical understated quiet move this week when the 1086 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 1: Bills restructured the contract for Starlotulalay. Look we didn't talk 1087 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 1: about all they need to do that and they do things. 1088 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,560 Speaker 1: They have a big plan in place, right, I think 1089 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:41,960 Speaker 1: that was part of it. That is part of their 1090 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 1: plan and what they I don't know what they have 1091 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,360 Speaker 1: in mind next, but that's part of their plan and 1092 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 1: what to do with some of their big contracts as 1093 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 1: they get ready for a free Agenciason, Right, I think 1094 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,759 Speaker 1: you know, you kind of you know, nailed a little 1095 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 1: bit with an understated move. And to me, I think 1096 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,719 Speaker 1: Brandon Bean, you know, kind of looked at his roster 1097 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,359 Speaker 1: and said, we're do I have a contract that maybe 1098 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,000 Speaker 1: I can rework, you know, to everybody's benefit. Because it 1099 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,839 Speaker 1: wasn't like Starr didn't get anything out of this deal. 1100 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,440 Speaker 1: He got guaranteed money this year, he got injury guaranteed 1101 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 1: money next year. He definitely got something out of this renegotiation. 1102 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't. I don't think Brandon Bean after 1103 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 1: he made the restructure, ran into his front office that, guys, 1104 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 1: we got the two million, rip up the old plans. 1105 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 1: We're doing something totally different now, right. I mean that 1106 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,440 Speaker 1: this is still a team that had a lot of 1107 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 1: money to work with. Stars restructure will help. But I 1108 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,880 Speaker 1: think it's just Brandon Bean. You know, when you have 1109 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 1: a GM that is aware of the different nooks and 1110 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,400 Speaker 1: crannies of his team and can find you know, a 1111 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,200 Speaker 1: little benefit, a little advantage here and there that goes 1112 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,320 Speaker 1: a long way, and who knows how there's two million 1113 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 1: will be used. But I think Brandon Bean just you know, 1114 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,720 Speaker 1: looked around, saw where he thought he had an opportunity 1115 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 1: to make his team better and he did it. Yeah, 1116 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 1: you talk about some of the other names, is you know, 1117 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,320 Speaker 1: we kind of forget about the players you have in 1118 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,880 Speaker 1: house that are even under contract, Guys like Trent Murphy, 1119 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,759 Speaker 1: Guys like Tyler Croft, Guys who maybe didn't come off 1120 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,880 Speaker 1: that jump off the page statistically. Trent Murphy, you know, 1121 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,000 Speaker 1: kind of people kind of looks him he's making eight 1122 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,960 Speaker 1: million bucks a year but didn't have all that mini sacks. 1123 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,399 Speaker 1: But you talk to the analytics people and they say, wow, 1124 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 1: Trent Murphy is a really good player. When you start 1125 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 1: breaking down film, what about those players who on the 1126 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,320 Speaker 1: surface don't jump off the page statistically. But let's remember 1127 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,400 Speaker 1: all these guys contributed to one of the best defenses 1128 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,959 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. They all played a role, 1129 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,240 Speaker 1: but there is still some thought about getting more value 1130 00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,800 Speaker 1: for what they're paying him. There's two different ways of 1131 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: Trent Murphy. But you're right to start about talking about 1132 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 1: how he played last year. He was third of the 1133 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 1: team in tacks, third of the team and tackles for 1134 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,319 Speaker 1: loss tied for fourth, I'm sorry, third on the team 1135 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 1: in quarterback hits tied for fourth, and tackles for a loss. 1136 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 1: So Trump Murphy was effective last year. Maybe not great, 1137 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,520 Speaker 1: but he was effective and a good player. And for 1138 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 1: what it's worth, among the defensive lineman, Trent Murphy had 1139 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 1: the best rating from Pro Football Focus. So there's something 1140 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,480 Speaker 1: he was doing right last year. But if you release 1141 00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 1: Trent Murphy right now, it does save you eight million 1142 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,399 Speaker 1: dollars against the cap. You know, we kind of about 1143 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,320 Speaker 1: the two million that started Lotula's restructure. Made eight millions 1144 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,120 Speaker 1: not anything to laugh about. You know, that's a big chunk, 1145 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 1: you know that that's talking about. You could fill two spots. 1146 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,160 Speaker 1: You could go out and maybe really have the AMMO 1147 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:11,880 Speaker 1: to chase one of those lead pass rushers we were 1148 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,879 Speaker 1: talking about before. So the beginning of the day, when 1149 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,760 Speaker 1: it comes to how the Bills attack this free agency 1150 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 1: system or off season, they could do whatever they want it. 1151 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,440 Speaker 1: I mean, if they want to bring everybody back and 1152 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,759 Speaker 1: run it back with mostly the same pieces. They can 1153 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,239 Speaker 1: do that if they want, but with Trent Murphy with 1154 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, again, if you're gonna pay Shack loss in 1155 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,080 Speaker 1: a decent amount of money, and I think the Bills 1156 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:32,759 Speaker 1: are gonna have to, and maybe if you want to 1157 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,840 Speaker 1: chase another Elad pass rusher, I don't know if you 1158 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,160 Speaker 1: want to keep Trent Murphy's nearly ten million dollars cap 1159 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,399 Speaker 1: at a round, So a decision to be made there. 1160 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,279 Speaker 1: But did call Trent Murphy a bad player, a guy 1161 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:43,880 Speaker 1: who can't help you? I think he just flat out 1162 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 1: wrong right on the line with Dead Brown, sports director 1163 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 1: at w ro OCTV Channel eight in Rochester eight. You 1164 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,359 Speaker 1: wrote a post that's up on the internet going through 1165 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 1: some of these players who could be contract cuts, a 1166 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,400 Speaker 1: couple of tight ends there. I want to get your 1167 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,840 Speaker 1: thoughts on Lee Smith and Tyler Croft. How do you 1168 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 1: see them fitting in and what is there to be 1169 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:03,759 Speaker 1: gained by the Bills if they were to let either 1170 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,839 Speaker 1: one of them or both of them go. I think 1171 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 1: if the Bills want to go after a big game 1172 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 1: changer offensively tight end as a spot where they could 1173 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,280 Speaker 1: do it, they've already talked to Greg Olson. Hunter Henry's available, 1174 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,760 Speaker 1: Austin Hooper's available. If you sign one of those guys, 1175 00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if you're gonna have the 1176 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,400 Speaker 1: money to keep a veteran like Lee Smith around or 1177 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,400 Speaker 1: you know, I think more to the point, Tyler Croft, 1178 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,560 Speaker 1: because releasing Croft would save the Bills five million against 1179 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,799 Speaker 1: the cap He's currently got a six point six million 1180 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,839 Speaker 1: dollar capit. And let's be fair, you know, last year 1181 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 1: Croft just wasn't very effective. Now how much the injury 1182 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,920 Speaker 1: played into it, you know, who can know, But he 1183 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:36,800 Speaker 1: wasn't the best receiving tight end of the team. That 1184 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,080 Speaker 1: was Dawson Knox. He's not the best blocking tight on 1185 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 1: the team. That's Lee Smith. So if Tyler Croft is 1186 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,200 Speaker 1: second best in every discipline a tight end can have 1187 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,480 Speaker 1: for the most part, why are we giving him a 1188 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,040 Speaker 1: six point six million dollar capit when you can excuse 1189 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 1: yourself of most of that. So I think, you know, 1190 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:52,879 Speaker 1: if I were the Bills, I'd look long and hard 1191 00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,480 Speaker 1: about keeping Tyler Croft around, especially when there is an 1192 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,959 Speaker 1: opportunity potentially in free agency to improve yourself. Lee Smith, 1193 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,000 Speaker 1: I think is less likely the Bills can save about 1194 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,160 Speaker 1: a million and a half releasing him. Lee Smith, though, 1195 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,600 Speaker 1: is an excellent blocker and certainly has a whole lot 1196 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,279 Speaker 1: of leadership ability. And Sean mcdermoy talks all the time 1197 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 1: about wanting to have a leader in each position group. 1198 00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 1: So unless the Bills can fill a the blocking ability 1199 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,840 Speaker 1: Lee Smith has and then be the leadership ability, I 1200 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,080 Speaker 1: don't think Lee Smith goes. But when you look at 1201 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:21,920 Speaker 1: this roster and credit the brand of Bean for this, 1202 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,200 Speaker 1: among the guys who are most likely to be released 1203 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 1: for the purposes of opening up some cap room, Lee 1204 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 1: Smith is one of the top five or six. And 1205 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:31,640 Speaker 1: again that's not necessarily a knock on Lee Smith, but 1206 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,160 Speaker 1: he is certainly a candidate. You mentioned Hooper and Henry. 1207 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,920 Speaker 1: What impact would Greg Olson's decision have in that tight 1208 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:39,719 Speaker 1: end picture, and that's supposed to come down by the 1209 00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 1: end of this week. I think I think of Olson 1210 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 1: signs with Buffalo and the Bills are out of the 1211 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,759 Speaker 1: tight end market, I think Olson would fill everything you 1212 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:48,279 Speaker 1: want to get out a tight end. You'd have a 1213 00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 1: veteran leader in the room. You'd have a guy who 1214 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,319 Speaker 1: can be an excellent pass receiver, like someone who can 1215 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,680 Speaker 1: certainly mentor Dawson Knox in that part of the game. 1216 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:57,960 Speaker 1: I think Lee Smith might hang around because I'm not 1217 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,600 Speaker 1: sure how good a blocker Greg Olson is. But I 1218 00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:04,120 Speaker 1: think if Olsen comes, then Tyler Croft would almost assuredly 1219 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 1: be out the door for the Bills, just because you 1220 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:07,719 Speaker 1: probably don't want to have to pay you know, both 1221 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,960 Speaker 1: those guys at that position. I would love the Greg 1222 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,800 Speaker 1: Olsen move. I think it'd be perfect for the Bills. 1223 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,320 Speaker 1: I think you can improve the passing game, you know, 1224 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 1: without really losing much allis in terms of veteran ability 1225 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 1: and leadership that kind of thing by bringing Olson in. 1226 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 1: But really, wouldn't you just be trading pieces, I mean 1227 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,440 Speaker 1: in terms of craft for Olsen's everything. Yes, I mean 1228 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,560 Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy a better receiver, and I 1229 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,880 Speaker 1: know what you're saying. I think Olsen's a better receiver. 1230 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:32,280 Speaker 1: I mean, if you want it now, if you want 1231 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 1: to be concerned about his ability to stay healthy, I 1232 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,240 Speaker 1: think that's fair. You know, Granna Croft is coming off 1233 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,240 Speaker 1: of a year where he missed five games, but I 1234 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:39,960 Speaker 1: think Olson's a guy who has done it for a 1235 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,520 Speaker 1: longer period of time. He had fifty catches in fourteen 1236 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:43,960 Speaker 1: games last year, so I think he can still be 1237 00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,320 Speaker 1: effective and unless you're worried about him just you know, 1238 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,760 Speaker 1: being over the hill and having nothing left in the tank. 1239 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,800 Speaker 1: I think Olsen is an improvement over Tyler Croft. Hey, 1240 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,520 Speaker 1: a couple of other names on your lists of potential cuts, 1241 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,880 Speaker 1: guys who are not free agents, and I'm interested. I 1242 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,360 Speaker 1: thought attended pet Marco on that list. I think they 1243 00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,560 Speaker 1: like to have a well, he's a good special teamer, 1244 00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:06,440 Speaker 1: I think for the most part, but I think they 1245 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,720 Speaker 1: like having a guy played that fullback wingback role and 1246 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,560 Speaker 1: DeMarco does. Okay, that doesn't he? Yeah, And I think 1247 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,080 Speaker 1: he was he was fine last year. I don't know 1248 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:15,560 Speaker 1: if he was great, but I think he was certainly 1249 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,560 Speaker 1: fine in that job. I think what that more is 1250 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:22,120 Speaker 1: about is there are a decent amount of quality fullbacks 1251 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 1: available in free agencies. Anthony Sherman from Kansas Seas and 1252 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:28,200 Speaker 1: number one on my list guys who could theoretically replace 1253 00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,920 Speaker 1: DeMarco do the things that DeMarco does, at least from 1254 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,240 Speaker 1: a fullback point of view and a leadership point of view, 1255 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 1: and perhaps do it better or cheaper. So I don't 1256 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,280 Speaker 1: think the Bills would just get rid of DeMarco to 1257 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,360 Speaker 1: release fullback from their offense. I mean, they've used him 1258 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,680 Speaker 1: the last two years with the offensive coording and who's 1259 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,080 Speaker 1: coming back for a third year, So there will be 1260 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,560 Speaker 1: a fullback in this offense. It's just a matter of 1261 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,439 Speaker 1: is it Pat DeMarco or can they either get better 1262 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 1: or perhaps get cheaper and therefore more efficient at the position? 1263 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,800 Speaker 1: And DeMarco's contract this year going into twenty twenty, he 1264 00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,720 Speaker 1: has the second biggest cap hit among all free agent 1265 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,440 Speaker 1: running backs behind Kyle whatever his last name is. They 1266 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,160 Speaker 1: can't pronounce it off top head. He Jan Francisco. So yeah, 1267 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,600 Speaker 1: used check, thank you. So there is something to be 1268 00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 1: discussed about, you know, do you is Pat de Marco 1269 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,400 Speaker 1: worth the second best fullback contract in the NFL. It 1270 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:16,720 Speaker 1: won't be that way by the time we get the 1271 00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,919 Speaker 1: training camp, but it'll probably still be in the top five. 1272 00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,439 Speaker 1: The Marcos effective a good leader, a guy who's loved 1273 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,720 Speaker 1: in that locker room. So you know, again, when you 1274 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 1: put together a list of you go on the league 1275 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,000 Speaker 1: and think who could teams released, you know, for contracts 1276 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 1: or to save some money in the cap. The Bills 1277 00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,600 Speaker 1: don't have that many prime candidates because you know, Brandon 1278 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,720 Speaker 1: Bean's done such a good job constructing the roster so far. 1279 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,840 Speaker 1: All right, next question, Let's move on to something that 1280 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,400 Speaker 1: the Bills haven't had to deal with for a little while, 1281 00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,000 Speaker 1: particularly with Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott, and that is 1282 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,080 Speaker 1: having a great player that they picked in the draft 1283 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,400 Speaker 1: come up for another contract. Trey White seems to be 1284 00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,520 Speaker 1: the likeliest candidate, but you got to line it up 1285 00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:55,360 Speaker 1: because Jordan Poyer will be the fourth year of his 1286 00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,120 Speaker 1: deal will be coming up. Hide is next after that, 1287 00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,960 Speaker 1: of course Josh Allen, Tremaine ed. They start to line 1288 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,880 Speaker 1: these guys up who seem to be near and dear 1289 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,680 Speaker 1: to their heart, how are they going to handle it? 1290 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,000 Speaker 1: And who's first? And how much does Trey White make 1291 01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,919 Speaker 1: when he does sign? The number for Trey White's gonna 1292 01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:13,920 Speaker 1: be big and deservedly. So you know, you get an 1293 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,400 Speaker 1: All Pro, you lead the league interceptions, you make a 1294 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,760 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, you know you're gonna command some cash, especially 1295 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,160 Speaker 1: at a prior position like like cornerback. And I think, 1296 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 1: if but who's Brandon being to get out ahead of 1297 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,360 Speaker 1: these as much as possible? I think if you wait 1298 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,240 Speaker 1: and let someone else set the market, then you're you're 1299 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,959 Speaker 1: you're allowing yourself to have your contracts, your players deals 1300 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 1: being dictated by somebody else. Let's be fair. Brandon Bean's 1301 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,360 Speaker 1: been a pretty good GM right to be conservative, So 1302 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,720 Speaker 1: why should Brandon Being let lesser gms dictate how much 1303 01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,760 Speaker 1: he's gonna pay his guys. If I'm Brandon Being, I'm 1304 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 1: gonna try and set the market on as many of 1305 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,440 Speaker 1: these guys as I can. And there's no reason to 1306 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,240 Speaker 1: wait a round on Trey White right now. There's no 1307 01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:53,080 Speaker 1: questions with Trey White. He's durable, he's excellent, he can 1308 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:54,440 Speaker 1: make plays, He's a you know, a guy who can 1309 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,120 Speaker 1: create interceptions. He can create sax as we've seen this year. 1310 01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 1: So there's no reason for the Bills not to feel 1311 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 1: like Trey White's a long term piece, someone that you 1312 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,080 Speaker 1: can commit a whole bunch of dollars too. There might 1313 01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,000 Speaker 1: be more questions with some of those other guys, depending 1314 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:07,760 Speaker 1: on which one you get to. But if I'm the 1315 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:09,400 Speaker 1: Bills and I'm looking at Trey White what I want 1316 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,960 Speaker 1: to do with him this offseason, it's sooner rather than 1317 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,680 Speaker 1: later in terms of having him put pen to paper 1318 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,240 Speaker 1: on a long term extension with the Brown sports director 1319 01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,800 Speaker 1: at Channel A w RO OCTV and Rochester overall in 1320 01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,040 Speaker 1: free agency than we're about a month away right March 1321 01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,840 Speaker 1: sixteen to eighteenth, and when free agency begins. We talked 1322 01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:27,840 Speaker 1: about this a little bit yesterday. Here are the Bills 1323 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,600 Speaker 1: with Josh Allen and his rookie contract still and getting 1324 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,760 Speaker 1: the team's getting better. Josh included, should they go real 1325 01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:35,840 Speaker 1: hard in free agency this year? I mean, is there 1326 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:38,640 Speaker 1: a sense that they got to make a move in 1327 01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 1: the next couple of years with Josh Allen on that 1328 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,400 Speaker 1: rookie contract or do you think they should kind of 1329 01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,640 Speaker 1: play it close to the vest free agent wise? I 1330 01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 1: think there's certainly a window that's open right now, right 1331 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,080 Speaker 1: with two years left than Josh Allen before. You probably 1332 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,440 Speaker 1: have to extend him going into year five. And I 1333 01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,760 Speaker 1: think the Bills should not be afraid to do whatever 1334 01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,760 Speaker 1: they feel like they need to in free agency. But 1335 01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 1: this team's in a weird spot rosterwise to being talked 1336 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,439 Speaker 1: about it last year. He uses free agency to fill 1337 01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,400 Speaker 1: in the cracks. You know you want to you want 1338 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,120 Speaker 1: to take a hole and use free agency to make 1339 01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,200 Speaker 1: sure you plug that hole. Well, now you look at 1340 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,600 Speaker 1: this roster. Where are the holes? I mean, where is 1341 01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,840 Speaker 1: there a problem spot on this team. Maybe right tackle, 1342 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,600 Speaker 1: you know, maybe defensive line depending on if Shack Lawson 1343 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,560 Speaker 1: or Jordan Phillips go. Maybe strong side linebacker with a 1344 01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,040 Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander. But even those spots, I feel like I'm 1345 01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,680 Speaker 1: reaching a little bit to say that's a quotes a hole. 1346 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,600 Speaker 1: So now the job for the Bills is to take 1347 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:34,000 Speaker 1: their you know, roster that's decent at worst in just 1348 01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 1: about every spot and try and improve it and make 1349 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,439 Speaker 1: it elite. And like we said before, you don't find 1350 01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,360 Speaker 1: many elite guys in free agency, So I don't know 1351 01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,200 Speaker 1: how much benefit there's going to be to just going 1352 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,640 Speaker 1: hog wild and spending a bunch of dollars in free agency. 1353 01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:49,040 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper comes available, that's different, Yanniknaquay. Like we said before, 1354 01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,440 Speaker 1: that's different. But for the most part, I think, you know, 1355 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,040 Speaker 1: trying to just take your eighty million, eighty two million 1356 01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,040 Speaker 1: free agency potentially more if you want to release some 1357 01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,520 Speaker 1: of the other guys and throwing it at you know, 1358 01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:00,520 Speaker 1: a group of players and saying this, we're gonna get 1359 01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,120 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. You know, I don't think that's 1360 01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 1: how it's done. The Bills are probably have to find 1361 01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,120 Speaker 1: those elite players, maybe at a lesser extent via trade, 1362 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,640 Speaker 1: but probably through the draft. And you know, that's a 1363 01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,680 Speaker 1: less of an instant gratification type thing, and fans may 1364 01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,520 Speaker 1: not get as much excited about that as they wouldn't 1365 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,840 Speaker 1: free agency. But I find the bills. I'm not afraid. 1366 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:19,560 Speaker 1: If I see a guy who I think can make 1367 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,120 Speaker 1: me elite or make me much better at a position, 1368 01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna, you know, balk at too many big contracts. 1369 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna spend the money because once you start painting 1370 01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,280 Speaker 1: your quarterback, it becomes a whole lot harder to do that. Well, 1371 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,120 Speaker 1: we've seen them in the last couple of years of 1372 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,800 Speaker 1: free agency. They have made some significant signings of contributions. Now, 1373 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:36,920 Speaker 1: certainly it was easier to do that on the offensive 1374 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:38,960 Speaker 1: side of the Bowl last year because you know, nine 1375 01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,760 Speaker 1: new starters. They knew they were gonna have an upheaval. 1376 01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,120 Speaker 1: But they signed Mitch Morris, made him the highest paid 1377 01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:48,160 Speaker 1: center in the league. They signed Starlow to Lela before 1378 01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,640 Speaker 1: that to a fifty million dollar contract, Jordan Poor, Micah Hyde. 1379 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:55,040 Speaker 1: You can go down the list of guys they signed 1380 01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:58,280 Speaker 1: that were significant contributors. Trent Murphy, the guys we've talked about. 1381 01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,240 Speaker 1: They signed guys to pretty fd deals, although they're not 1382 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:05,400 Speaker 1: blockbuster deals. They sign them to be contributors more than stars. 1383 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,120 Speaker 1: That always seems to be the way they kind of 1384 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,200 Speaker 1: move in this free agency thing. So it's going to 1385 01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:14,840 Speaker 1: be interesting to see who they target for that level 1386 01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,560 Speaker 1: of contract for the Bills, because I have a hard 1387 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:22,360 Speaker 1: time seeing them signing somebody to a Marcel Darius deal 1388 01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:26,760 Speaker 1: or a Mario Williams deal here in Buffalo because those 1389 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,520 Speaker 1: guys aren't available. You know, those you know, the Marcel 1390 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,200 Speaker 1: Darius type, Not that Darius is an exact example here, 1391 01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,360 Speaker 1: but a guy who can be an elite player. They 1392 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,240 Speaker 1: don't make it the free agency for the most part. 1393 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:39,240 Speaker 1: And you know, I think when you talk about significant contributors, 1394 01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,360 Speaker 1: that's how you get to ten and six. The Bills 1395 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,040 Speaker 1: have bigger goals than ten and six, not right, I mean, 1396 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:46,479 Speaker 1: we're talking twelve wins, super Bowls, you know, deep playoff runs. 1397 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,560 Speaker 1: You need something better than significant contributors to make that happen. 1398 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,320 Speaker 1: You need elite, you need game changers, and the Bills 1399 01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,760 Speaker 1: may have guys that can develop into that on this team. 1400 01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,680 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Devin Singletary. You know, Tremaine Edmonds, guys like that. 1401 01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,200 Speaker 1: Edmonds might be close. But when it comes to free 1402 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,000 Speaker 1: agency or how you're building this team in the offseason, 1403 01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,680 Speaker 1: you're looking to go from you know here pretty good 1404 01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,480 Speaker 1: or decent up to the top, and free enche is 1405 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:09,760 Speaker 1: gonna be a hard spot to find it no matter 1406 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:11,200 Speaker 1: how much money you want to spend. You know, you 1407 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,840 Speaker 1: bring up a topic that spend a topic of discussion 1408 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,120 Speaker 1: on our show for a couple of days. Now that um, 1409 01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:18,840 Speaker 1: I'm not saying stand pat but do they do they 1410 01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:22,080 Speaker 1: need a major influx of talent or should they continue 1411 01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,280 Speaker 1: to develop some of their really good players right now 1412 01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,400 Speaker 1: into really great players in the next year or two. 1413 01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,240 Speaker 1: Can I say that they don't need a major influx 1414 01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,200 Speaker 1: of talent, but they need an influx of major talent? 1415 01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,520 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? I think they need guys that 1416 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:38,320 Speaker 1: can be elite players, you know, like Amari Cooper, Um, 1417 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:42,200 Speaker 1: guys that can really change games, change teams, change seasons. 1418 01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,280 Speaker 1: You know, on their own, they don't They don't have 1419 01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:46,160 Speaker 1: a lot of those guys right now. Trey White is that, 1420 01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:48,360 Speaker 1: you know, Jerry Hughes has been that. I don't know 1421 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,919 Speaker 1: if he still can be that um and that's where 1422 01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,000 Speaker 1: this team needs to go to. Brandon Bean's done a 1423 01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:56,920 Speaker 1: great job of constructing a team that is, at worst, 1424 01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,600 Speaker 1: you know, capable at every spot, but it's it's the 1425 01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:01,160 Speaker 1: next that that's the hardest one, and that's where the 1426 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,560 Speaker 1: builds are at. Yeah, I agree with you. You need 1427 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,560 Speaker 1: every great team or every championship team. Teams have star players, 1428 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,000 Speaker 1: and sometimes those guys emerge late and a half a 1429 01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,440 Speaker 1: season and start to play well. You can look at 1430 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:14,640 Speaker 1: the Giants two Super Bowl wins. Eli Manning all of 1431 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:16,680 Speaker 1: a sudden catches a little bit of fire. Their defense 1432 01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:20,400 Speaker 1: and their line, their defensive line catches fire. But all 1433 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,560 Speaker 1: those teams seem to have those home run hitters. And 1434 01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:25,800 Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting to see whether the Bills 1435 01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:29,000 Speaker 1: cultivate their own from the draft or go out and 1436 01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:32,440 Speaker 1: find one. But it has not been their mode of 1437 01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:36,720 Speaker 1: operation to get them in free agency, no matter who's available. 1438 01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,320 Speaker 1: I mean, look look at what the Chiefs did. Look 1439 01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:40,600 Speaker 1: at how that team was built. The team that just 1440 01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,640 Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl drafted Pat Mhonen was drafted Tyreek Hill, 1441 01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,600 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey. Now they brought Sammy Watkins over, you know, 1442 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,120 Speaker 1: with a free agent edition, and then that's the kind 1443 01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,520 Speaker 1: of thing that you can do. But the primary players 1444 01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,800 Speaker 1: on that team, the driving players in that team, they 1445 01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,720 Speaker 1: were all drafted. They're all developed, you know, internally, and 1446 01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:58,760 Speaker 1: I think that's generally how you build a team. Even 1447 01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,439 Speaker 1: the Niners, you know, two a different extent. They didn't 1448 01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,200 Speaker 1: draft Jimmy Garoppol, but they trade it for him. And 1449 01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,160 Speaker 1: you can do it that way too, you know, you can. 1450 01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,479 Speaker 1: I think you can grab major players like we talked about, 1451 01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,400 Speaker 1: via trade, you know, and you want to talk about 1452 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,320 Speaker 1: a trade possibility that's been thrown around Mike Evans and Tampa. 1453 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:14,600 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if they want to trade them. 1454 01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,360 Speaker 1: I wouldn't if I were them, but they do have 1455 01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,040 Speaker 1: an excellent other receiver in Chris Godwin. So if that 1456 01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,760 Speaker 1: guy becomes available, it's not a free agent signing, it's 1457 01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,280 Speaker 1: a trade. It's basically using a draft pick to grab 1458 01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:26,960 Speaker 1: a player, which is, you know, basically drafting him. But 1459 01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,480 Speaker 1: that's another way that you can go about finding those 1460 01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:32,640 Speaker 1: elite guys that can become Super Bowl on championship winners. 1461 01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:34,600 Speaker 1: Last thing I have for you, fan, I wonder if 1462 01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,400 Speaker 1: you can and we count on you for this taking 1463 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,920 Speaker 1: the temperature of the fan base in Rochester. You're right there, 1464 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,320 Speaker 1: You're the top sportscaster in Rochester. Most people, I think 1465 01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:47,000 Speaker 1: most Bills fans have a high regard for the job 1466 01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,320 Speaker 1: that Being in McDermott do, in a very high regard 1467 01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,520 Speaker 1: for the decisions that Brandon Bean has made in his 1468 01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,480 Speaker 1: brief tenure as a Bills GM. Right. I mean, most 1469 01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,600 Speaker 1: people have faith in what they're in, the direction they're going, 1470 01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,160 Speaker 1: and what they'll do in the next important six weeks 1471 01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:03,400 Speaker 1: of this office season. Faith is putting it mildly. I 1472 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:07,120 Speaker 1: would put it as somewhere as a unyielding, unrelenting belief 1473 01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:09,920 Speaker 1: in everything that Brandon Being and Sean McDermott does. And 1474 01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,400 Speaker 1: you know, look a lot of that has deserved. I mean, 1475 01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,120 Speaker 1: two playoff appearances in three years for a team that 1476 01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,720 Speaker 1: wasn't there in the last seventeen. You know, Brandon Being 1477 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:19,800 Speaker 1: in two years has turned this team from you know, 1478 01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:21,760 Speaker 1: a one that has to eat fifty million and dead 1479 01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,240 Speaker 1: money into the cap to a team that coming off 1480 01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,280 Speaker 1: a playoff season has the third most space available. So 1481 01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:29,439 Speaker 1: look that there's a lot of good things that they 1482 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,240 Speaker 1: have done, you know, getting this team from you know, 1483 01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,760 Speaker 1: a perennial also ran slash doormat to a team that's now, 1484 01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:38,040 Speaker 1: you know, certainly a threat to make the playoffs. I 1485 01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,000 Speaker 1: think just about year and year out, at least last 1486 01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,280 Speaker 1: year and this year and certainly depending on what goes 1487 01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,000 Speaker 1: on over there in Foxborough, a team that could potentially 1488 01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:47,800 Speaker 1: be a division favorite next year. So look at you know, 1489 01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:49,680 Speaker 1: I think we might laugh a little bit in the 1490 01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,280 Speaker 1: the cult like belief in Brandon being Sean McDermott. But 1491 01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,280 Speaker 1: it's been earned, you know, for the very most part. 1492 01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,040 Speaker 1: Steve and I am said a couple of times this week, 1493 01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:59,599 Speaker 1: it's a different job now though it's a different team 1494 01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:03,640 Speaker 1: and a job to get to the next level, right absolutely, 1495 01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:07,120 Speaker 1: It's Look, it's in sports, every sport, every franchise, every 1496 01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:10,600 Speaker 1: type of thing. It's easiest to go from bottom of 1497 01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:14,639 Speaker 1: the barrel to respectable slash decent. You know, they good job. 1498 01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,040 Speaker 1: You really compete at hard. That's the easy part, the 1499 01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,800 Speaker 1: hard players going from that level to elite, and it 1500 01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:21,920 Speaker 1: takes a special group of guys and a special group 1501 01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,160 Speaker 1: of management to make that happen. Do the Bills have that? 1502 01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:25,680 Speaker 1: I think they have some of that, and I think 1503 01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,519 Speaker 1: their management is really really good. But you know, this 1504 01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:31,240 Speaker 1: is the step that is the difference between you know, 1505 01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,360 Speaker 1: a forgotten regime and those that you know go home 1506 01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:37,360 Speaker 1: with Vince Lombardi trophies. And the next two off seasons 1507 01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:40,479 Speaker 1: will be very telling for this group as a whole, 1508 01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:43,000 Speaker 1: both you know, the players, especially the quarterback Josh Allen 1509 01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,080 Speaker 1: and of course McDermott and being yeah, just before we 1510 01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:46,280 Speaker 1: let you go, one last thing, I want to ask 1511 01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:47,840 Speaker 1: you about what do you think about a seventeen game 1512 01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:52,719 Speaker 1: schedule for the NFL? You know, my big question about 1513 01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,240 Speaker 1: that is like how do you schedule it? What do 1514 01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:55,640 Speaker 1: you do with that last game? Because I think the 1515 01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:57,760 Speaker 1: NFL has done a really good job about making it 1516 01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,479 Speaker 1: mostly fair. You know, you play your to vision games, 1517 01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,479 Speaker 1: you play one division in conference, you play one division 1518 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,120 Speaker 1: out of conference, You play two of the teams in 1519 01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:05,920 Speaker 1: conference and finished in the same spot you did. What 1520 01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:07,040 Speaker 1: do you do with that other game? You know, A 1521 01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:10,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna make it a neutral site game so that 1522 01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:12,200 Speaker 1: no one has nine home games against some team that 1523 01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:15,400 Speaker 1: has eight. Are you gonna make it a natural rival game? 1524 01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,599 Speaker 1: So the Jets play the Giants and the Rams play 1525 01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,200 Speaker 1: the Chargers. But what do you do with the Bills 1526 01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,360 Speaker 1: and teams like that. So I think there's a lot 1527 01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:24,320 Speaker 1: of questions about the seventeenth game before we get into 1528 01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,040 Speaker 1: is it good and healthy and safe for the players. 1529 01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:28,960 Speaker 1: And you know, if you're gonna build an extra buye week, 1530 01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:30,760 Speaker 1: then I'd be okay with it. But one of the 1531 01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,280 Speaker 1: nice things about the NFL is that it is so 1532 01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:37,000 Speaker 1: well constructed right now as a league four eight divisions 1533 01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:40,320 Speaker 1: of four, you know, two conferences of sixteen? Did the 1534 01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:43,120 Speaker 1: playoffs work out good? And you throw this odd number in? 1535 01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,479 Speaker 1: You know, that's why everybody's schedules even numbers to make 1536 01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:47,720 Speaker 1: it fair. You know, you're making seventeen games. How do 1537 01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:49,799 Speaker 1: you make this work? To make it fair and equitable? 1538 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,080 Speaker 1: Because I guarantee you know you're gonna get teams making 1539 01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,680 Speaker 1: playoffs because they had the extra home game or you know, 1540 01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:56,720 Speaker 1: their seventeenth game was against the team that went two 1541 01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:58,680 Speaker 1: and fourteen and the other conference. So that's the thing 1542 01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm most curious about. Hey, fan, thanks for this, good 1543 01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:04,519 Speaker 1: talking to you again. Thanks a lot, as always falls 1544 01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,360 Speaker 1: my pleasure to that round Sports director w r OCTV 1545 01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,439 Speaker 1: Channel eight in Rochester. He's on the sidelines of Bill's 1546 01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,599 Speaker 1: preseason games too. Sideline reporter. He's been around this team 1547 01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:15,760 Speaker 1: covering the Bills for twenty years now. He's a good, 1548 01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,640 Speaker 1: smart observer of what goes on here at One Bill Drive. Ye, 1549 01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:20,439 Speaker 1: and it's true. He's got some good stuff he's written 1550 01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,160 Speaker 1: as well, and kind of did some deep dives into 1551 01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:26,720 Speaker 1: some guys who may make some sense to move on from. 1552 01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:30,679 Speaker 1: But yeah, for guys like some of the stuff he says, 1553 01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:32,559 Speaker 1: it's true, and some of the players that you think, wow, 1554 01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:34,160 Speaker 1: what are they really getting out of, Guys like Lee 1555 01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,080 Speaker 1: Smith or a Tyler Crafty in the tight end room 1556 01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:40,400 Speaker 1: of stuff. Some of it is intangible, and we've learned 1557 01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:45,480 Speaker 1: that Sean McDermott in particular places a high value on experience, 1558 01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:49,360 Speaker 1: particularly experience that can be given to younger players and 1559 01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,840 Speaker 1: help them in their journey to get better. One of 1560 01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,400 Speaker 1: the great things about this staff and this culture that 1561 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,120 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott has put in place in Buffalo is the 1562 01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:01,320 Speaker 1: fact that young players almost in variably tend to get 1563 01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,639 Speaker 1: better week to week to week to week, and certainly 1564 01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:06,800 Speaker 1: year over year. You know, you look at players like 1565 01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:10,400 Speaker 1: Matt Milano, even Devin Singletary and of course at Oliver 1566 01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,400 Speaker 1: this year, right during season he became better. Josh Allen's 1567 01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:16,479 Speaker 1: a prime example at Tremaine Edmonds, And although those guys 1568 01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,400 Speaker 1: were high draft picks, it's also true some of the 1569 01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:24,560 Speaker 1: younger guys. So I think that intangible that Sean McDermott 1570 01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:26,479 Speaker 1: places such a high value on it, Guys like Lee 1571 01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,080 Speaker 1: Smith and veterans you know, who have been around a 1572 01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:32,160 Speaker 1: long time. It does help in that and I don't 1573 01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,439 Speaker 1: think he's gonna say goodbye to that. So I think 1574 01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:37,080 Speaker 1: he's gonna if he says goodbye to a player of 1575 01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:38,920 Speaker 1: that caliber, that you can bet that he's gonna bring 1576 01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,320 Speaker 1: one in. Leshaun McCoy was a great example of it. 1577 01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,040 Speaker 1: He had some experience and was a great guy. But 1578 01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:46,880 Speaker 1: Frank Gore was a better example of it, and Leshan 1579 01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:51,519 Speaker 1: McCoy became expendables because of it. So Devin Singletary reaped 1580 01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,360 Speaker 1: the benefits of that. So I as much as the 1581 01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:56,840 Speaker 1: finances have something to say about this, and they do 1582 01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:00,240 Speaker 1: certainly place at a higher priority on some teams than others, 1583 01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,800 Speaker 1: I think the leadership thing is part of what makes 1584 01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:07,920 Speaker 1: the team better in week twelve than it was in 1585 01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:10,920 Speaker 1: Week three. Hey, we gotta breakcare. We got a pretty 1586 01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,600 Speaker 1: good Twitter poll today, what should the Bills draft philosophy 1587 01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:16,200 Speaker 1: be in the upcoming year? Give us an answer to 1588 01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:18,400 Speaker 1: that question. We'll read some of the tweets. We'll definitely 1589 01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:20,360 Speaker 1: take your phone calls on the air as well. One 1590 01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,040 Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health from the Seneca Studio 1591 01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:38,479 Speaker 1: in Archard Park. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back 1592 01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:41,040 Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. John Rourfeast, Heap Pasker here until three. 1593 01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,559 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk in two o'clock with a special guest 1594 01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,519 Speaker 1: writer for the Athletic dot Com. His name is a 1595 01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,439 Speaker 1: funny one, and I've struggled with it all day, but 1596 01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:52,880 Speaker 1: I keep getting it right. Shield Kapadia, NFL writer for 1597 01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,920 Speaker 1: the Athletic dot Com. You've written a couple of interesting things, 1598 01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,720 Speaker 1: one about pending free agents where they rank. He's got 1599 01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,320 Speaker 1: a list of one hundred free agents, and he's also 1600 01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:04,360 Speaker 1: got twenty bold predictions for the twenty twenty season. Shield 1601 01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:07,560 Speaker 1: at two o'clock got on our radar because one of 1602 01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:09,960 Speaker 1: his bold predictions is that Devin Singletary will win the 1603 01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:13,040 Speaker 1: rushing title. Yes, so that caught our attention obviously, So 1604 01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:14,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna get him on and ask him about that. 1605 01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,640 Speaker 1: And all the others have keeping close track of the 1606 01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,679 Speaker 1: free agent market. Although you know, you gotta, you gotta 1607 01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:24,799 Speaker 1: put him in there. But I mean, Dak Prescott, Drew Brees, 1608 01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:28,519 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. You know, I don't know if any and 1609 01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:30,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if any of those guys are gonna 1610 01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,800 Speaker 1: be free agents right probably not, you're right, but they 1611 01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:36,160 Speaker 1: they are pending there, yeah, right now. And of course 1612 01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:40,160 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is Amari Cooper looks like he might be. Uh, 1613 01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:44,519 Speaker 1: Chris Jones the Chiefs and Gockway Yannicking Gockway edge rusher 1614 01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:48,040 Speaker 1: for the Jaguars. Um. You know, these guys like Chris 1615 01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:51,799 Speaker 1: Jones are the chiefs of edge rusher, Jannicking Gockway edge rusher. 1616 01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:54,920 Speaker 1: Not a fan, by the way, if Yannicking Gottway really 1617 01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,200 Speaker 1: why not? Don't like him, don't think he's a good guy. 1618 01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,559 Speaker 1: That dust up with Richie Incognito after the Bills Jacksonville 1619 01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:06,080 Speaker 1: playoff game accused Incognito of making a racial slur on 1620 01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:09,320 Speaker 1: the field, and it turns out, years later never been 1621 01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,519 Speaker 1: really released publicly. I mean, there was no punishment for Ritchie, 1622 01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:16,000 Speaker 1: which should indicate that that was really nothing to it. 1623 01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:18,920 Speaker 1: And Gockway also had some pretty damaging things to say 1624 01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:21,120 Speaker 1: to Richie Incognito. Richie board the brought of it because 1625 01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,840 Speaker 1: he's Richie, because he's had that background, and it was 1626 01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:26,200 Speaker 1: just unfair and the fact that Incockway was involved in 1627 01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:28,880 Speaker 1: that not a fan. Watch him sign here and you know, 1628 01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:33,439 Speaker 1: sit right over there. What about what about Jadeveon Clowney. 1629 01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't break the bank to sign up if he's 1630 01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:39,000 Speaker 1: if there's a bargain to be had, I'd take him. 1631 01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:44,280 Speaker 1: If you see Jadeveon Clowney walking around here any place, Okay, 1632 01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,120 Speaker 1: Like if you watch him play and getting him down, 1633 01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:50,439 Speaker 1: I've been on field level when he's playing, and yeah, freakish, right, 1634 01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,479 Speaker 1: Oh he's freakish. Yeah he really is. And it's like, 1635 01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:56,240 Speaker 1: how can that guy not be dominating the whole league? 1636 01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:58,360 Speaker 1: And there's something, there's something up there that I don't 1637 01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,040 Speaker 1: know about, but he is really Now he commands a 1638 01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:03,479 Speaker 1: double team, no question. So he's always getting doubled. And 1639 01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,120 Speaker 1: the guy can run. He can run. He can outrun 1640 01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:09,000 Speaker 1: me maybe on my best day ever, but he is. 1641 01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:12,240 Speaker 1: He's an unbelievable athlete. He was like the one or 1642 01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:15,479 Speaker 1: one or two player picked overall by the Houston Texans 1643 01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,760 Speaker 1: number one. I think, hey, he and you look at him, 1644 01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:19,720 Speaker 1: it's like, man, he is a can't miss guy. Now 1645 01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,280 Speaker 1: he's looking to be on his third team. On the 1646 01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,479 Speaker 1: topic of edge rushers, you know what name and we're 1647 01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:26,280 Speaker 1: just throwing out names there, you know what name? I 1648 01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:30,120 Speaker 1: would be somewhat interested in Robert Quinn um right. I 1649 01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:32,120 Speaker 1: just think he's a good he's a good guy. I think, 1650 01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,240 Speaker 1: and he's and and that means something. We gotta call 1651 01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,160 Speaker 1: her for ast hour talk about how he's got to 1652 01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,320 Speaker 1: fit the culture here he does. I just I like 1653 01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:40,960 Speaker 1: what I've heard about Robert Quinn, like the way he plays. 1654 01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:44,120 Speaker 1: He is again on that list of potential free agents 1655 01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:46,280 Speaker 1: in a month, and I would I would look, I 1656 01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,200 Speaker 1: would take a second look at Robert Quinn. Can I 1657 01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:52,639 Speaker 1: say that there's a guy Shaquille Barrett down in Tampa Bay. 1658 01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,000 Speaker 1: He's gonna be twenty s He is twenty seven years old. 1659 01:16:55,080 --> 01:17:00,439 Speaker 1: He's an edge Rusher's two thousand nineteen performance he bet 1660 01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,560 Speaker 1: on himself. He had a four million dollars deal with 1661 01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:07,200 Speaker 1: Tampa and he led the league in sacks. Now he's 1662 01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:09,320 Speaker 1: a free agent, so he might be out of he 1663 01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,360 Speaker 1: might be priced out of him might be our Twitter 1664 01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:15,400 Speaker 1: poll question today. It's not about for agency, it's about 1665 01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:17,320 Speaker 1: the draft, and we want to hear from you. What 1666 01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:20,519 Speaker 1: should the Bills draft fillouts to be beat in twenty twenty. 1667 01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:23,479 Speaker 1: Right now with we're about an hour and a half 1668 01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:26,320 Speaker 1: into the Twitter poll time, and we've got a thousand votes, 1669 01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:29,280 Speaker 1: eleven votes in. Thirty eight percent of you say stay 1670 01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:32,160 Speaker 1: at twenty two, get the best player available. Basically, say 1671 01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:35,559 Speaker 1: where you are. Twenty three percent say stay at twenty 1672 01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:38,360 Speaker 1: two and draft a player at a position of need. Okay, 1673 01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:41,240 Speaker 1: twenty one percent say trade some of those mid round 1674 01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:45,200 Speaker 1: picks and they have two in the fifth and three 1675 01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:47,559 Speaker 1: in the sixth, right, trade some of those mid round 1676 01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:51,040 Speaker 1: picks for more early draft picks, and eighteen percent say 1677 01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:53,560 Speaker 1: trade up, get a difference maker. Let's hear from you. 1678 01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:56,280 Speaker 1: Full line's open eight O three five fifty toll free 1679 01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,320 Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five. That Twitter 1680 01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:02,160 Speaker 1: pole and the percentage he's got twenty three percent here, 1681 01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:04,840 Speaker 1: twenty one percent, they're thirty eight percent, they're eighteen and 1682 01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:07,599 Speaker 1: a half percent there. That tells you how all over 1683 01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:09,720 Speaker 1: the place people are about the draft. Everybody's got their 1684 01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:13,120 Speaker 1: own way of doing it and what they want their 1685 01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:16,280 Speaker 1: team to do. And obviously people talking to us, we're all, 1686 01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:19,960 Speaker 1: you know, talking about our team, the Bills. But the 1687 01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:24,000 Speaker 1: philosophy of what you do and why is is really 1688 01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,600 Speaker 1: fascinating to me that the problem is and this is 1689 01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:29,920 Speaker 1: why I made this this thing about this that remark 1690 01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,559 Speaker 1: just a moment ago about Shaquille Barrett from Tampa Bay, 1691 01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:34,960 Speaker 1: I said he's priced himself out of it, because when 1692 01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:37,800 Speaker 1: you get there, there's always somebody out there. The thirty 1693 01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,519 Speaker 1: two teams, we all sit here and say, we'll listen, 1694 01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:45,320 Speaker 1: you can't pay a pass rush your twenty four million 1695 01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:48,040 Speaker 1: bucks a year, and somebody's gonna do it. Sure, some 1696 01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:52,120 Speaker 1: team will do it. And you know, the Bills have 1697 01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:55,120 Speaker 1: just stayed so disciplined throughout the process of this three 1698 01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:58,000 Speaker 1: year deal. They built this thing up there. They've been 1699 01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:02,400 Speaker 1: acknowledged as one of the best managed rosters in cap 1700 01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:05,920 Speaker 1: space franchises in the league. They've really got to put 1701 01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,920 Speaker 1: together and they've done it by staying discipline. And we 1702 01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,120 Speaker 1: always get a call when we put questions out there. 1703 01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:14,000 Speaker 1: Somebody will call us, probably today and say I don't care. 1704 01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:16,880 Speaker 1: Get to the top of the draft and get that 1705 01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,200 Speaker 1: wide receiver. We you know, do what it takes. Give 1706 01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:22,760 Speaker 1: this year's one, this year's two, next year's one, and 1707 01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:26,280 Speaker 1: next year's two and a player. Just get the guy, right, 1708 01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:29,160 Speaker 1: somebody's always willing to do that. Is it typical of 1709 01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:32,960 Speaker 1: the NFL and ownership or some gms? Just get the guy. 1710 01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:36,040 Speaker 1: We were we were kind of like going, yeah, I'm 1711 01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:39,519 Speaker 1: glad they did with the Jets last year about Levion Bell. 1712 01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,040 Speaker 1: Blow all that money on a running back. We got 1713 01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:45,679 Speaker 1: a third rounder who will take Yeah, you know, yeah, 1714 01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,559 Speaker 1: it's just crazy. And that's why you get this twitter pool. 1715 01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:52,240 Speaker 1: We got up the air all over the map, over 1716 01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,519 Speaker 1: the map, different philosophies on how to build a team. 1717 01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:56,320 Speaker 1: Let's go to the tweet sheet brought to you by 1718 01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:59,639 Speaker 1: Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movers of the Buffalo Bills. 1719 01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:02,240 Speaker 1: What it would be the Bill's draft philosophy in twenty twenty, 1720 01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:04,920 Speaker 1: Murcer New York says, stay at twenty two, get the 1721 01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,320 Speaker 1: best player available. You can grab a difference maker and 1722 01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:10,840 Speaker 1: fill positional needs. In free agency, you can grab you 1723 01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,160 Speaker 1: can grab a difference maker in free agency. You can 1724 01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:14,920 Speaker 1: also get one in the draft and get him at 1725 01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,479 Speaker 1: a much cheaper price than you can in free agency's 1726 01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:20,720 Speaker 1: agency always it has that connotation. When you get a 1727 01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:22,920 Speaker 1: big time guy in free agency, you always feel like 1728 01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,200 Speaker 1: you have to hit a home run and he yet 1729 01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,280 Speaker 1: to pay him. And it's hard even if the guy 1730 01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:31,320 Speaker 1: plays well for you, it's hard to say, Wow, that 1731 01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:33,080 Speaker 1: was a great deal for the team, because I mean, 1732 01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:36,240 Speaker 1: look what just happened this week. They restructured Check Lawson's contract. 1733 01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:40,519 Speaker 1: He's been okay as a as an start, he's been 1734 01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:43,280 Speaker 1: okay as an interior defensive linement for the Bills, but 1735 01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:45,519 Speaker 1: they needed to make his contract make sense and they 1736 01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,000 Speaker 1: had to get give him that contract to get him here. 1737 01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:50,080 Speaker 1: People don't move without a contract. That's out of whack. 1738 01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:54,040 Speaker 1: Same thing with Trent Murphy, as Thad Brown said, they 1739 01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:56,680 Speaker 1: may have to look at that Trent Murphy's contract and 1740 01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:59,519 Speaker 1: get that down to a more manageable alignem But if 1741 01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:01,320 Speaker 1: you don't get that contract a couple of years ago, 1742 01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:05,000 Speaker 1: he doesn't come here. That's right, and it's true, and 1743 01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:09,519 Speaker 1: we gotta go down. I gotta because this conversation. We 1744 01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,760 Speaker 1: have ranges everywhere I can I can you think of 1745 01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:17,320 Speaker 1: one of those free agents that was like an absolute 1746 01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:19,840 Speaker 1: home run left one team went to another team hit 1747 01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:25,439 Speaker 1: a big financial home run and has absolutely, year after 1748 01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:27,840 Speaker 1: year after year, been a difference maker. I can think 1749 01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:32,040 Speaker 1: of one. Who are you thinking of? Drew Brees. Yeah, yeah, 1750 01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:34,639 Speaker 1: he traded or receipted free agent. He was a free 1751 01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:38,720 Speaker 1: agent from San Diego. Remember they've drafted Philip Rivers. He 1752 01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:42,080 Speaker 1: watched Drew Brees for a year and drafting Philip Rivers. 1753 01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:45,639 Speaker 1: I've always said this. I covered the San Diego Charges 1754 01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:48,639 Speaker 1: before they drafted Philip Rivers and after, and Drew Brees 1755 01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:51,040 Speaker 1: was a different guy when they hired. When they've drafted 1756 01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:54,160 Speaker 1: somebody to take his spot, it made him into the quarterback. 1757 01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:56,960 Speaker 1: He has become a Hall of Famer because they let 1758 01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:59,400 Speaker 1: him go because they were pretty sure he couldn't play. 1759 01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:04,240 Speaker 1: And something clicked in for Drew Brees when they drafted 1760 01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:10,080 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers behind him by just two years, and it 1761 01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:14,320 Speaker 1: changed him. It changed him, and he's reaped the benefits 1762 01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:15,880 Speaker 1: of it and won a World Championship with the New 1763 01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:19,479 Speaker 1: Orleans Saints because of it. So there's not that many 1764 01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,360 Speaker 1: guys out there in free agency where you're gonna pay 1765 01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:25,880 Speaker 1: him the highest dollar to get him and he's gonna 1766 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:28,080 Speaker 1: hit a home run for the team. Played good year 1767 01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:29,920 Speaker 1: after year for year, you can make the case Mario 1768 01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:32,040 Speaker 1: Williams played pretty well for the Bills while he was here. 1769 01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:33,280 Speaker 1: That was the one that came to mind when you 1770 01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:35,160 Speaker 1: can think about that, it's one hundred million dollars deal. 1771 01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:39,800 Speaker 1: You know it, it's hard to earn that, right, even 1772 01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:42,920 Speaker 1: by NFL standards of you know, the skewed the money 1773 01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,400 Speaker 1: they make it, it's hard to even earn that. He 1774 01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:47,400 Speaker 1: would have had to play at least that good. And 1775 01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:49,080 Speaker 1: there you'll get some people now it's like, I don't 1776 01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:52,200 Speaker 1: know if he really made it that much money. But 1777 01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:55,240 Speaker 1: there's one or two, you know, they're just jump jump 1778 01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,600 Speaker 1: off the page for every team, about these teams that 1779 01:22:57,880 --> 01:22:59,519 Speaker 1: go out and hit these home runs with these free 1780 01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:00,920 Speaker 1: agents and all of a sudden's like, yeah, we're a 1781 01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:04,120 Speaker 1: better team. Even the Khalil Mack trade from the Raiders. 1782 01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:06,040 Speaker 1: He had that one the first year he was there, 1783 01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:08,160 Speaker 1: twelve win season for them, and last year he was 1784 01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:11,560 Speaker 1: He's okay, he was good last year. Let's go to 1785 01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:14,000 Speaker 1: Stephen on the tweet sheet. Steven says, very difficult to 1786 01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,439 Speaker 1: answer this question. The question is what should the Bill's 1787 01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:18,920 Speaker 1: draft Floutso we be very difficult to answer this question 1788 01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:22,200 Speaker 1: in a vacuum. Generally I would say to stay at 1789 01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:24,640 Speaker 1: twenty two. But if you rank someone top ten and 1790 01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:27,800 Speaker 1: he's there at seventeen, do you trade up? If there 1791 01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:29,760 Speaker 1: are multiple players who have ranked the same, do you 1792 01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:32,559 Speaker 1: trade down a few comes to how you feel about 1793 01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:35,080 Speaker 1: or comes to how much you trust your draft board. Yeah, 1794 01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:37,840 Speaker 1: that's a good point. Yeah, you mean he gets close sometimes, right, 1795 01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:39,960 Speaker 1: And you'd like to think that it's an absolute. No, 1796 01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:43,680 Speaker 1: he's not. He's not the twenty second best player, he's 1797 01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:45,880 Speaker 1: the twenty fourth. Well, maybe you got to take him 1798 01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:47,519 Speaker 1: at twenty two because you might not get a chance 1799 01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:49,479 Speaker 1: of him, and that that's not really a reach. I 1800 01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:51,320 Speaker 1: don't consider that a reach now I wouldn't either. And 1801 01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:54,519 Speaker 1: here's the thing as well. It becomes two you have 1802 01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:58,680 Speaker 1: like three or four guys rated higher, and you can 1803 01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:01,160 Speaker 1: kind of trade down a couple of spots, right, Well, 1804 01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:03,439 Speaker 1: if you trade down a couple of spots, or then 1805 01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:05,400 Speaker 1: you don't trade down a couple of spots because the 1806 01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:08,040 Speaker 1: mix of the players that you have rated higher, one 1807 01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,080 Speaker 1: of them is a spot of need, one of them 1808 01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,599 Speaker 1: plays a spot of position of need for you. Well, 1809 01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:14,880 Speaker 1: then you might want to stay pat and hang on 1810 01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:16,519 Speaker 1: and see if you can get that guy at your 1811 01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:19,360 Speaker 1: same spot, rather than trade down hoping that that player 1812 01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:22,920 Speaker 1: that you need at the position you need falls to you. 1813 01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:25,560 Speaker 1: All of that comes into play too, because need is 1814 01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:29,400 Speaker 1: a factor in all of this. Having and granted you've 1815 01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:32,080 Speaker 1: made the point and rightfully so, this is a roster 1816 01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:38,120 Speaker 1: that it really doesn't have holes in it. It's got dents, right, yeah, yeah, 1817 01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,040 Speaker 1: it's got dents in it, not these hole you know, 1818 01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:42,400 Speaker 1: we last we had like nine guys that we washed 1819 01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:45,360 Speaker 1: through here on offense this last year opening day, nine 1820 01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:47,439 Speaker 1: different guys starting on offense for this team that was 1821 01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:51,599 Speaker 1: Those were holes. Now the Bills kind of have dents. 1822 01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:54,800 Speaker 1: Certainly there's some question marks you don't know if if 1823 01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,800 Speaker 1: you know Shack Lawson and Jordan Phillips, those guys might 1824 01:24:57,920 --> 01:24:59,400 Speaker 1: leave a hole in your roster. I get that. But 1825 01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:01,360 Speaker 1: you've got free agency coming, and by the time this 1826 01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:03,080 Speaker 1: is over, you want to get back to the point 1827 01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:05,920 Speaker 1: where you maybe have some just dents or maybe you know, 1828 01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:08,679 Speaker 1: not even that where you can pick pick the best 1829 01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:12,000 Speaker 1: player available. But you've always got someplace where you think 1830 01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,040 Speaker 1: you're not too sure if you're deep enough at that 1831 01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:16,000 Speaker 1: spot or you're not too sure if the guy at 1832 01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:18,479 Speaker 1: the top of the depth chart is really that good. 1833 01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:20,920 Speaker 1: You know, you can always find a need on your 1834 01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:23,360 Speaker 1: roster because there are twenty two spots you're looking at. 1835 01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:26,800 Speaker 1: So all that goes into the mix when you're talking 1836 01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:30,000 Speaker 1: about trading up, trading down, because if you're going to 1837 01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:34,800 Speaker 1: trade down, it's hard to do when there's a guy 1838 01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:38,240 Speaker 1: that's going to be at a position of need still 1839 01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:41,320 Speaker 1: there at your old spot. So all that goes into 1840 01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:43,559 Speaker 1: the mix. And it's and that's why this is such 1841 01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,599 Speaker 1: a you know, a wide ranging Yeah, grew every He's 1842 01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:49,719 Speaker 1: getting pretty even responses all over the board. Kevin responds 1843 01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:52,880 Speaker 1: on Twitter other he's responded to the question what should 1844 01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:55,200 Speaker 1: be the Bill's drafted allows to be? Kevin says, I say, 1845 01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:57,960 Speaker 1: trade back. You can get a solid wide receiver like Pittman, 1846 01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:00,320 Speaker 1: the guy from USC, and you can get another pick. 1847 01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:02,880 Speaker 1: The way the regime, this regime drafts, the more picks 1848 01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:05,000 Speaker 1: the better. Okay, that's when we talk about that too. 1849 01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:07,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he's Kevin's right, I mean we've talked about 1850 01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:12,080 Speaker 1: that a lot. Murph. This this regime has drafted really 1851 01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:14,240 Speaker 1: well and hit on a percentage of their draft picks. 1852 01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:18,360 Speaker 1: If you take that into consideration, do you give them 1853 01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:21,400 Speaker 1: more draft picks so they can hit a bigger you know, 1854 01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:23,839 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, a bigger the same percentage 1855 01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,240 Speaker 1: of more draft picks is more guys that make a difference, 1856 01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:29,759 Speaker 1: or do you give them a shot at better athletes 1857 01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:31,880 Speaker 1: fewer picks but higher in the draft, so you get 1858 01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:34,840 Speaker 1: better athletes, you know. Yeah, I just think the way 1859 01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:38,400 Speaker 1: the Bill's draft is constructed now, with two picks, one, two, three, 1860 01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:40,880 Speaker 1: four rounds one pick each and then two in the 1861 01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:43,880 Speaker 1: fifth and three and the sixth, You're you're asking a 1862 01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:45,600 Speaker 1: lot to look for players out of the fifth and 1863 01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:48,280 Speaker 1: sit round, especially players to make a difference on a 1864 01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:51,200 Speaker 1: roster that's pretty good already. I'd like to see them convert, 1865 01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:53,400 Speaker 1: you know, one of the fifths and maybe two six 1866 01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:55,599 Speaker 1: to move up in the third or in the second round. 1867 01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:59,599 Speaker 1: I think that might be realistic. I agree, and that too. 1868 01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:03,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you put guys on the it's not just 1869 01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:05,360 Speaker 1: about the picks either. It could be some players as well, 1870 01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:08,720 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I wouldn't want to disrupt the roster 1871 01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,240 Speaker 1: too much, but right I do think they do well 1872 01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:14,000 Speaker 1: with more picks. They have had a little success in 1873 01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:17,160 Speaker 1: the later rounds mixed success. I guess I'd just rather 1874 01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:20,080 Speaker 1: see a few more premium draft picks than the two 1875 01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:22,160 Speaker 1: and the fifth and three and the sixth. That's all 1876 01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:26,360 Speaker 1: because if here's what I think, if you can get 1877 01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:31,280 Speaker 1: more picks third round or higher with this with the 1878 01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:33,880 Speaker 1: history of this club, I think, Man, they hit on 1879 01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:36,280 Speaker 1: all those guys. You know what I mean? Yeah, you 1880 01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:40,320 Speaker 1: know one of those guys. You might hit fifty percent 1881 01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:41,840 Speaker 1: of the rest of them, but if you get them 1882 01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:44,759 Speaker 1: inside the third round, you hit on all those guys. 1883 01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:46,920 Speaker 1: All those guys are actually pretty good players for this 1884 01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:50,280 Speaker 1: team through the three years they've been picking up. One 1885 01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:52,840 Speaker 1: more from the tweet sheet from Jack. I hope they 1886 01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:55,040 Speaker 1: stay at twenty two to get either the best wide 1887 01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:59,200 Speaker 1: receiver Leabiscus channalt wide receiver from Colorado or a pass rusher. 1888 01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:01,720 Speaker 1: But with two fifths and three to six, they don't 1889 01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:03,680 Speaker 1: have room for all those guys. I'd rather trade one 1890 01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,479 Speaker 1: of the fifth and get and two of the six 1891 01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:09,200 Speaker 1: to get another third, or to add a better quality 1892 01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:10,760 Speaker 1: of player on day two, a guy who can help 1893 01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:13,000 Speaker 1: us in twenty twenty exactly. That's what I was saying 1894 01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:15,000 Speaker 1: a minute ago. Kevin I'd like to see them, and 1895 01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:17,800 Speaker 1: I think they're thinking that way too. Those extra fifth 1896 01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:20,479 Speaker 1: and sixth round picks, that's draft capital more than it 1897 01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:23,760 Speaker 1: represents players they'll bring here. That's that's spending money. That's 1898 01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:25,680 Speaker 1: something you can do with. Even if it's not this year, 1899 01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:29,280 Speaker 1: it's still draft capital. It's really hard to see guys 1900 01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:31,680 Speaker 1: they draft in the sixth and seventh rounds, even the 1901 01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:34,600 Speaker 1: fifth rounds, coming in on the roster the way it 1902 01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:40,400 Speaker 1: is now and sticking, I mean even practice squad. You know, 1903 01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,680 Speaker 1: I think this is becoming a really difficult team to 1904 01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:50,160 Speaker 1: hang around. And the lower the draft gets, you know, 1905 01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:52,400 Speaker 1: the fewer and far between the guys are capable of 1906 01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:56,080 Speaker 1: it are. So I'm kind of with you. I'd rather 1907 01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:58,639 Speaker 1: see him get as many picks as they can inside 1908 01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:03,040 Speaker 1: the first three, maybe four rounds of this draft and 1909 01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:07,560 Speaker 1: go with those guys rather than picking however many it is, 1910 01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,800 Speaker 1: nine or ten guys they have nine picks, nine picks 1911 01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:15,040 Speaker 1: that they have and having three of them make it, 1912 01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:20,120 Speaker 1: you know, ye, I'd rather have five picks and have 1913 01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:22,840 Speaker 1: four of them make it, or five picks and have 1914 01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:24,559 Speaker 1: all five of them make it. So we'll see. If 1915 01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:27,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, That's That's where I'm at right now. 1916 01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:29,400 Speaker 1: Take a break. It is one Bill Slide presented by 1917 01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:32,080 Speaker 1: Kalaida Health from the Seneca Studio in Orchard Park. This 1918 01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:48,519 Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio, one of those five time ver FeAs. 1919 01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:52,000 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker here until three today we'll talk about free agency. 1920 01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:56,000 Speaker 1: We'll talk about other offseason issues, with Shilkapati of the 1921 01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:58,880 Speaker 1: Athletic Dot Com coming to them next hour. We're dealing 1922 01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:00,599 Speaker 1: with what the Bill Shore doing the draft, with their 1923 01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:02,640 Speaker 1: free agency plans might be. Other teams are dealing with 1924 01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:06,320 Speaker 1: really critical decisions, including the Carolina Panthers with a new 1925 01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:09,240 Speaker 1: head coach and a quarterback coming off a pretty serious injury. 1926 01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:12,040 Speaker 1: Right Cam Newton, I mean he could barely play last 1927 01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:14,760 Speaker 1: year with the variety of injuries he had, and his 1928 01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:17,879 Speaker 1: owner David Tepper or the Panthers talked about Cam Newton's 1929 01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:19,760 Speaker 1: future just the other day. Where he stands right now? 1930 01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:23,000 Speaker 1: Listen to this. You know, what do you think he'll 1931 01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:27,000 Speaker 1: be back? Listen. I'm not a doctor, you know, and 1932 01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:28,760 Speaker 1: I said it a million times. Is he could? Is 1933 01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:30,920 Speaker 1: he healthy? And how does he? I mean, He's not 1934 01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:33,679 Speaker 1: a doctor, so you know, there's a lot of different 1935 01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:36,200 Speaker 1: things can happen. But first is he healthy? Tell me 1936 01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:39,679 Speaker 1: that and then we can talk. Yeah. Well, I don't 1937 01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:41,680 Speaker 1: blame him for playing it close to the best. They 1938 01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:42,920 Speaker 1: don't know what they want to do. They need to 1939 01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:44,680 Speaker 1: see him first. I think the plan is to have 1940 01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:47,280 Speaker 1: Cam Newton throw get my work out sometime in the 1941 01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:49,200 Speaker 1: month of March next month. Yeah, it foot. It was 1942 01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:51,840 Speaker 1: foot surgery. Yeah, and before that the year before it 1943 01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:57,639 Speaker 1: was his shoulder. He's been banged up, and but before 1944 01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:01,879 Speaker 1: he got banged up, he was a superstar and that's 1945 01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:04,679 Speaker 1: hard to replace. And I don't know that they have anybody. 1946 01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:06,479 Speaker 1: And I think it will come down to if for me, 1947 01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:08,559 Speaker 1: if I was if you've got a better option than 1948 01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:11,320 Speaker 1: Cam Newton, you go with that option. But if you 1949 01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:12,760 Speaker 1: want to win as many games as you can, you 1950 01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:15,200 Speaker 1: give yourself. You give yourself the best players there are 1951 01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:18,280 Speaker 1: to win on Cam I think is one of those guys. Um. 1952 01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:22,000 Speaker 1: They had a carousel at quarterback this year after he 1953 01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:25,120 Speaker 1: went out in Week two and had Liz Frank's surgery. 1954 01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:28,800 Speaker 1: I had Liz frank injury. When I played, it was 1955 01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:32,640 Speaker 1: a ten week and it was like ten weeks I 1956 01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:34,720 Speaker 1: sat out with that. What is that on your foot. 1957 01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:37,519 Speaker 1: It's the bottom of the foot. It's the big joint 1958 01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:40,400 Speaker 1: behind the ball of your foot on the same on 1959 01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:42,200 Speaker 1: the same toe, it's like the arch of your foot, 1960 01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:43,639 Speaker 1: the top of the arch of your foot, the middle 1961 01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:45,960 Speaker 1: of your foot, and it hurts. You can't you know, 1962 01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:49,040 Speaker 1: a football player can't function with a Liz Frank because 1963 01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:54,360 Speaker 1: you know you're you gotta run. Yeah, And I'm it's 1964 01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:56,400 Speaker 1: really gonna be interesting to see what Cam Newton does 1965 01:31:56,479 --> 01:32:02,080 Speaker 1: because there's no question his services will be highly sought after. 1966 01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:04,760 Speaker 1: The guy who's a former MVP took that team to 1967 01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:07,920 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. He's got a lot of upside athletically, 1968 01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:12,719 Speaker 1: He's maybe unparalleled in the league because of his size. 1969 01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:15,680 Speaker 1: Certainly Lamar Jackson can make a case for it. But 1970 01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:18,280 Speaker 1: let you stand those two Lamar Jackson next to Cam Newton. 1971 01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:22,040 Speaker 1: Cam Newton makes Lamar Jackson looked like a teeny kid 1972 01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:24,160 Speaker 1: for years now. Every time and they played him a 1973 01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:27,519 Speaker 1: lot in preseason, they practiced against him giant every time 1974 01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:29,599 Speaker 1: they play him on a game. I make a point 1975 01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:31,360 Speaker 1: of going down and watching the pregame warm ups on 1976 01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:33,880 Speaker 1: the field just to see how stunt day am by 1977 01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:37,200 Speaker 1: Cam Newton's size. He's just huge. Now Josh is Josh 1978 01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:38,960 Speaker 1: kind of up there with him, you know, but it's 1979 01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:43,880 Speaker 1: it's not the same man. Cam is just a It's 1980 01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:49,240 Speaker 1: like Lebron James, right he is. He's like, wow, look 1981 01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:52,080 Speaker 1: at you know, he could be anywhere not a football 1982 01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:53,880 Speaker 1: fielder in a uniform in you see him, He's like, 1983 01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:56,400 Speaker 1: that is a big and he's not just tall, he's 1984 01:32:56,560 --> 01:33:01,960 Speaker 1: broad and he's gonna be high demand. And I don't 1985 01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:05,040 Speaker 1: you tell me you're philosophy Murphy. If I'm if I'm 1986 01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:09,080 Speaker 1: the Panthers and Matt Rule comes in, I don't know 1987 01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:11,559 Speaker 1: what Matt Matt rules a clean slate, right, I mean, 1988 01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:13,519 Speaker 1: I don't know. He doesn't know who's there or whatever. 1989 01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:14,960 Speaker 1: He can watch film and all that. But you gotta 1990 01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:18,599 Speaker 1: get to know, guys, are you? I mean you gotta 1991 01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:20,559 Speaker 1: You're not moving on from Cam Newton til you've got 1992 01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:24,560 Speaker 1: an option, another option, am I right? I don't know. 1993 01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:26,960 Speaker 1: I gotta think about that. Look, I've never been a 1994 01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:29,439 Speaker 1: fan of Cam Newton. I know it was MVP um 1995 01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:33,000 Speaker 1: and it's beyond physical ability. I just don't know that 1996 01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:35,000 Speaker 1: he is the kind of guy you want to lead 1997 01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:36,680 Speaker 1: your team as a quarterback. You know, I don't know 1998 01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:38,559 Speaker 1: if he is the right temperament. I don't know if 1999 01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:43,040 Speaker 1: he has good judgment. Sometimes he has. He's done a 2000 01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:46,759 Speaker 1: good job of making the transition from a athletic quarterback 2001 01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:51,120 Speaker 1: to more of a pocket type quarterback. But he's been 2002 01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:53,080 Speaker 1: hurt too. I just I'd have to think long and 2003 01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:55,160 Speaker 1: hard about that. That's gonna be an interesting decision. The 2004 01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:57,479 Speaker 1: Panthers want to make it, and if you're gonna move 2005 01:33:57,479 --> 01:33:59,120 Speaker 1: away from Cam Newton, why not do it? When you 2006 01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:01,559 Speaker 1: got a rookie head coach and sort of getting a reset, 2007 01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:03,640 Speaker 1: reboot of the team. Now it's time to do it. 2008 01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:05,800 Speaker 1: So I think long and hard about that. If you 2009 01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:10,640 Speaker 1: gotta talking, you're talking from Tepper's David Tepper's point of view. 2010 01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:12,960 Speaker 1: He got a head coach. Let's let's clean the slate 2011 01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:15,120 Speaker 1: form whatever if what if you're Matt Rule and you 2012 01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:17,680 Speaker 1: see Cam Newton standing, they're going, man, man, you have 2013 01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:21,840 Speaker 1: to get over that, right. If that guy's not one 2014 01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:25,040 Speaker 1: hundred percent healthy, If that guy's not dialed into what 2015 01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:28,080 Speaker 1: you're doing, if he's not healthy, if he's not healthy, 2016 01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:30,600 Speaker 1: that changes everything. It may be marginally healthy. I'm just 2017 01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:33,360 Speaker 1: saying that they including Matt Rule, I have to think 2018 01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:35,759 Speaker 1: twice about there. I really want to put my fortunes 2019 01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:38,519 Speaker 1: in the hand of this this quarterback coming off of 2020 01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:41,479 Speaker 1: major injury, who's never been I mean, he's MVP, I 2021 01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:45,200 Speaker 1: don't dispute that, but he's never been I'm not gonna 2022 01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:46,880 Speaker 1: say committed. But I don't know if he's always been 2023 01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:49,880 Speaker 1: dialed into what the Panther's plan is. He's always had 2024 01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:52,639 Speaker 1: that thing, especially from the outside in yes, I'm definitely 2025 01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:54,880 Speaker 1: on the outside. It's like both of us like, I 2026 01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:57,040 Speaker 1: don't know if you can need to get into costume 2027 01:34:57,120 --> 01:35:00,040 Speaker 1: for your post game, you know what I mean. And 2028 01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:03,479 Speaker 1: he's he's got this a little bit of show off, 2029 01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:06,200 Speaker 1: a lot of show of offen him and you know, 2030 01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:07,920 Speaker 1: I mean, so there's all of that with him, but 2031 01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:13,080 Speaker 1: his ability is unsurpassed. So that's up to me. Is 2032 01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:18,280 Speaker 1: A is an intriguing spot because he's gonna take snaps somewhere, Yeah, yeah, 2033 01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:21,080 Speaker 1: somebody somewhere, and it's going to be interesting to see 2034 01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:23,120 Speaker 1: how that how it shakes out in Carolina. All Right, 2035 01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:24,640 Speaker 1: we got a break here, two o'clock break, and we 2036 01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:27,080 Speaker 1: come back. We'll talk with our guest about free agency, 2037 01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:29,840 Speaker 1: about another a number of other NFL issues. Come on 2038 01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:32,240 Speaker 1: back for that. One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health 2039 01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:35,320 Speaker 1: from the Seneca Studio in Archard Park. This is Buffalo 2040 01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:51,720 Speaker 1: Bill's Radio Healo Bill's Radio Network. Sports date update from 2041 01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:56,439 Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. The news coming from elsewhere today. DeVante 2042 01:35:56,560 --> 01:35:59,519 Speaker 1: Freeman's future in Atlanta is in doubt. The running back 2043 01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:02,040 Speaker 1: with the Foulkins maybe nearing the end of his tenure 2044 01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:05,479 Speaker 1: with Atlanta. NFL never reports the Falcons are considering parting 2045 01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:08,719 Speaker 1: ways with Freeman less than halfway through his contract extension 2046 01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:12,479 Speaker 1: financials the reason for the move. Sean McVay, head coach 2047 01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:14,880 Speaker 1: of the Rams, has changed up his coaching staff, and 2048 01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:17,960 Speaker 1: he says he has fresh new perspectives in the building now. 2049 01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:22,200 Speaker 1: McVay sat down with his new coordinators, gone our Way 2050 01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:26,519 Speaker 1: Phillips as defensive coordinator, special teams coordinator John Fossil, replaced 2051 01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:30,160 Speaker 1: in part by new offensive coordinator Kevin O'Connell, defensive coordinator 2052 01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:33,640 Speaker 1: Brandon Staley, and special teams coordinator John ben Amigo. The 2053 01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:36,439 Speaker 1: Rams were nine and seven last year. McVay says he's 2054 01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:40,120 Speaker 1: more rejuvenated than reinvigorated than he was in the past. 2055 01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:43,559 Speaker 1: Lions officials say there's absolutely no way that they're going 2056 01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:46,920 Speaker 1: to trade away their quarterback Matthew Stafford, despite reports in 2057 01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:48,960 Speaker 1: Detroit that said they were in talks to do it. 2058 01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:53,440 Speaker 1: One false. According to Lions GM Bob Quinn, Colin Kaepernick's 2059 01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:56,000 Speaker 1: going to release a memoir sometime this year through a 2060 01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:59,320 Speaker 1: company he founded. He will tell the story of his evolution, 2061 01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:02,040 Speaker 1: he says. According to the statement, the memoir will share 2062 01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:05,160 Speaker 1: the life experiences that led Cabernet to risk his career 2063 01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:08,720 Speaker 1: as an NFL quarterback. In one silent active protest, the 2064 01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:12,400 Speaker 1: Patriots are keeping Nick Kisserio as their personnel guru. Yes 2065 01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:14,280 Speaker 1: Sarrio has been with the Patriots in a variety of 2066 01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:18,080 Speaker 1: capacities since two thousand and one. Used in Texans wanted 2067 01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:20,960 Speaker 1: to talk with him about being a general manager role, 2068 01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:23,560 Speaker 1: but they instead promoted Bill O'Brien to GM. So the 2069 01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:27,080 Speaker 1: Patriots agreed to terms on a contract extension with Nick Kisserio. 2070 01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:29,880 Speaker 1: He is the Patriots director of player Personnel, and Bill 2071 01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,600 Speaker 1: Bidwell says he is open to the Cardinals appearing on 2072 01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:35,519 Speaker 1: a hard knocks They've got, of course, Kyler Murray coach 2073 01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:39,680 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury entertaining offense legendary receiver Larry Fitzgerald. They may 2074 01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:41,840 Speaker 1: be the right kind of team. The host hard knocks 2075 01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:45,320 Speaker 1: this summer savers home against Columbus to night two thousands night, 2076 01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:48,320 Speaker 1: seven o'clock face off. Pregame coverage starts at six thirty. 2077 01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:51,719 Speaker 1: How do you say that? Two thousands night? Two thousand 2078 01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:55,240 Speaker 1: nineteen nineties nine? I yet eighties night? What do you 2079 01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:59,479 Speaker 1: say for the two thousands? That's two thousands night? Yeah, okay, 2080 01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:02,800 Speaker 1: I'll take your word for it. It is weird the 2081 01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:06,320 Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know. Why 2082 01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:07,840 Speaker 1: do you say that? Hey, I'm a line with us now, 2083 01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:10,040 Speaker 1: A writer for a staff or rider covers the NFL 2084 01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:12,880 Speaker 1: for the Athletic dot Com. Former Eagles Seahawks beat reporter 2085 01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:15,599 Speaker 1: Shiel copied you on the line with the shield John Murphy, 2086 01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:17,360 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker here in Buffalo. How do you say that? 2087 01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:21,000 Speaker 1: Is it? Two thousands night? Is that is that correct? Yeah? 2088 01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:23,519 Speaker 1: I think that I think that sounds right. Thallasand this night. 2089 01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:25,920 Speaker 1: You're really asking the wrong guy. But I'm just gonna 2090 01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:28,680 Speaker 1: go with whatever you said there. You're a writer, You're 2091 01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:31,840 Speaker 1: a writer. You're supposed to Hey, show let speaking, Yeah, 2092 01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:34,760 Speaker 1: go ahead, the post due that's the that's the key 2093 01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:37,639 Speaker 1: phrasing there. Yeah, you are a writer. You wrote twenty 2094 01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:40,519 Speaker 1: bold and not so bold predictions for twenty twenty for 2095 01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:43,320 Speaker 1: the Athletic dot Com Number fifteen on your list, Bill's 2096 01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:45,920 Speaker 1: running mcdevin singletary wins the rushing title. What do you 2097 01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:48,599 Speaker 1: see there? Why do you think that could happen? Yeah? 2098 01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:50,679 Speaker 1: You know, I was a big fan of his coming 2099 01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:53,760 Speaker 1: out of college, coming into the draft last year, and 2100 01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:56,720 Speaker 1: then seeing what he did with the Bills last year, 2101 01:38:56,880 --> 01:38:58,960 Speaker 1: or you know, once he got over those injuries. As 2102 01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:02,320 Speaker 1: his role expand, it averaged over five yards per carry. 2103 01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:04,320 Speaker 1: I you know, I thought during the second half of 2104 01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:06,320 Speaker 1: the season he was really one of the you know, 2105 01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:09,960 Speaker 1: maybe top five, top ten running backs in the NFL. 2106 01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:12,000 Speaker 1: And so I think, if you're looking at a guy 2107 01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:13,960 Speaker 1: who can really make a leap, who's going to have 2108 01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:17,280 Speaker 1: the opportunity, who's gonna have the touches. I really liked 2109 01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:19,439 Speaker 1: everything about his game, from the way he could make 2110 01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:23,200 Speaker 1: people miss, break tackles, his vision, all those different types 2111 01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:25,320 Speaker 1: of things. I think you've got a chance to make 2112 01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:27,760 Speaker 1: a pretty pretty big leap in a second season. Am 2113 01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:30,320 Speaker 1: I wrong to hope? And it maybe even expected? The 2114 01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:33,879 Speaker 1: Bills will get a complimentary running back with Devin Secretary, 2115 01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:36,360 Speaker 1: not that he won't be the feature back, but Frank 2116 01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:38,320 Speaker 1: Gore not likely to return. I do think they need 2117 01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:42,040 Speaker 1: someone else besides Singletary, don't they. Yeah, I think that's right. 2118 01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:43,960 Speaker 1: And this is sort of a really a league wide 2119 01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:46,640 Speaker 1: thing you're seeing. Yeah, I think even more of in 2120 01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:49,439 Speaker 1: recent years, whether it's two backs or three backs or 2121 01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:52,840 Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. You definitely, you know, you 2122 01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:55,679 Speaker 1: want to compliment the first guy just so he's fresh 2123 01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:59,000 Speaker 1: when it comes to December January, hopefully your team is 2124 01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:01,120 Speaker 1: playing at that time. But also you know, if the 2125 01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:03,760 Speaker 1: guy goes down with an injury, you don't want to 2126 01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:05,960 Speaker 1: get caught. So you know, it's a matter of sort 2127 01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:09,880 Speaker 1: of resource allocation and not spending too many resources or 2128 01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:12,280 Speaker 1: too much money I think on that spot when you 2129 01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:15,320 Speaker 1: drafted a guy there last year. But yeah, I think 2130 01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:17,920 Speaker 1: that would certainly make some sense. Yeah, we're gonna ask 2131 01:40:17,960 --> 01:40:20,439 Speaker 1: you as well about some of the other bold predictions, 2132 01:40:20,479 --> 01:40:22,760 Speaker 1: and you're kind of diving into the conversations we've been 2133 01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:26,160 Speaker 1: having for well since the season ended, since he got 2134 01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:31,160 Speaker 1: really slow. He got really slow. Yeah, like the intrigue 2135 01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:33,840 Speaker 1: about the quarterbacks moving around certainly, Drew Brees is kind 2136 01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:36,000 Speaker 1: of taking his name out of the shuffling deck, and 2137 01:40:36,160 --> 01:40:38,280 Speaker 1: he thinks if he's gonna play, he's gonna come back 2138 01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:41,200 Speaker 1: to the New Orleans Saints. But guys like Tom Brady, 2139 01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:44,080 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, who was just thrown onto the free agent 2140 01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:47,400 Speaker 1: market in this last couple of days, Andy Dalton has 2141 01:40:47,439 --> 01:40:49,320 Speaker 1: been a fresh face who's been talked about now that 2142 01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:51,920 Speaker 1: the Bengals are gonna maybe trade him. How do you 2143 01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:54,320 Speaker 1: think this is all dust? Is all gonna settle? Enough? 2144 01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:57,439 Speaker 1: Here in Buffalo were particularly interested in Tom Brady and 2145 01:40:57,560 --> 01:41:01,080 Speaker 1: what his future holds any ideas. Yeah, it's really incredible. 2146 01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:04,160 Speaker 1: I don't remember an offseason like this where you have 2147 01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:08,240 Speaker 1: so many quarterbacks on the market, so many starters who 2148 01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:11,000 Speaker 1: could really be switching teams. So, you know, in my 2149 01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:13,519 Speaker 1: bold predictions, Tom, I'll say this, I think the most 2150 01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:17,080 Speaker 1: likely scenario is that Tom Brady returns to New England, 2151 01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:19,160 Speaker 1: but I don't think it's a given. And the scenario 2152 01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:21,760 Speaker 1: I painted was, you know, let's say Brady meets with 2153 01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:25,040 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, meets with the Patriots, and Brady's going to 2154 01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:27,519 Speaker 1: have a really strong opinion about what he thinks the 2155 01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:30,120 Speaker 1: Patriots need to do to kind of get back into 2156 01:41:30,160 --> 01:41:33,120 Speaker 1: the mix as a Super Bowl contender next season. And 2157 01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:35,760 Speaker 1: I think that's going to center around the guys around him, 2158 01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:39,200 Speaker 1: you know, getting him more weapons, more playmakers, along with 2159 01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:42,439 Speaker 1: upgrading the offensive line. Now, I think there's a scenario 2160 01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:45,360 Speaker 1: where Belichick looks at it and says, you know, maybe 2161 01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:47,240 Speaker 1: that's some of it, but you are going to be 2162 01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:51,040 Speaker 1: forty three years old. It's unprecedented for a starting quarterback 2163 01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:53,519 Speaker 1: your age to kind of have a really good season, 2164 01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:56,040 Speaker 1: really to start, really to throw one hundred passes. You know, 2165 01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:58,200 Speaker 1: I looked it up. Guys, forty three year old er, 2166 01:41:58,280 --> 01:42:01,639 Speaker 1: there's been one in the history of the NFL who's 2167 01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:04,360 Speaker 1: thrown more than one hundred passes. That's Vinny Testaverdi. So 2168 01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:07,360 Speaker 1: Brady is really an unchartered territory. So let's say he 2169 01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:10,200 Speaker 1: has that conversation, he doesn't like what he hears, he 2170 01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:12,800 Speaker 1: decides to test the market. The team I kind of 2171 01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:15,479 Speaker 1: picked for was the Las Vegas It feels we were 2172 01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:18,519 Speaker 1: saying that the Las Vegas Raiders. You know, their offensive 2173 01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:21,000 Speaker 1: line was really good last year. I think they've got 2174 01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:23,720 Speaker 1: a good supporting cast. I think they've got resources to 2175 01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:26,679 Speaker 1: even upgrade that supporting cast. And I think if Brady 2176 01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:29,519 Speaker 1: starts shopping around, and you know, March eighteen goes around 2177 01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:32,120 Speaker 1: and he hasn't resigned with the Patriots, that to me 2178 01:42:32,360 --> 01:42:34,120 Speaker 1: is kind of a team that would make some sense. 2179 01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:36,880 Speaker 1: You got your twenty bold predictions. You got quarterbacks moving 2180 01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:39,280 Speaker 1: all over the place, and obviously we've all been we've 2181 01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:41,519 Speaker 1: all been talking about that, but talk about some of 2182 01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:43,760 Speaker 1: the other moves if you would please. Philip Rivers goes 2183 01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:46,559 Speaker 1: to Tampa Bay and Cam Newton goes to Los Angeles. 2184 01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:49,519 Speaker 1: You see quarterbacks just flying around the league. Huh yeah, 2185 01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:51,479 Speaker 1: well these had to be bullet predictions. You know, I 2186 01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:53,560 Speaker 1: couldn't say Josh Allen is going to start for the 2187 01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:56,519 Speaker 1: build twenty twenty. People would start throwing the bats that 2188 01:42:56,640 --> 01:43:00,240 Speaker 1: mean over something. So yeah, so I think we are 2189 01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:02,400 Speaker 1: getting bold now now we know Rivers is not going 2190 01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:05,120 Speaker 1: to be back with the Chargers. So I think certainly 2191 01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:08,800 Speaker 1: Tampa and Indianapolis are two teams that make them make 2192 01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:11,599 Speaker 1: the most sense. I could certainly see Bruce arians doing 2193 01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:14,800 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers as kind of his next Carson Palmer. You know, 2194 01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:17,880 Speaker 1: that vest quarterback who maybe has a year, maybe has 2195 01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:20,280 Speaker 1: two years where you can plug him in there, very 2196 01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:23,719 Speaker 1: good wide receivers and maybe they can make some type 2197 01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:26,640 Speaker 1: of run and everything you hear out of Carolina, you know, 2198 01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:29,240 Speaker 1: it certainly does not seem like they are going to 2199 01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:32,240 Speaker 1: be committed to Cam Newton in twenty twenty. It really 2200 01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:35,480 Speaker 1: feels like a situation there where they're trying to rebuild, 2201 01:43:35,800 --> 01:43:38,080 Speaker 1: get in Matt Rule, get some of his guys in there. 2202 01:43:38,120 --> 01:43:40,680 Speaker 1: So I think if Cam Newton becomes available, we know 2203 01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:43,120 Speaker 1: the Chargers are going to be looking for a quarterback, 2204 01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:45,879 Speaker 1: we know they're going to be opening up a new stadium. 2205 01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:48,479 Speaker 1: That's a situation where I could see them kind of 2206 01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:51,519 Speaker 1: making a move bringing Cam Newton to Los Angeles and 2207 01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:53,879 Speaker 1: seeing what you have there with them. What will Carolina 2208 01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:58,400 Speaker 1: do if Cam Newton vacates? And also on the line, 2209 01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:00,840 Speaker 1: and I'm with you the unlike we event that Tom 2210 01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:04,080 Speaker 1: Brady leaves New England, what did the Patriots do? Well, 2211 01:44:04,160 --> 01:44:06,080 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of I have the same name 2212 01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:09,200 Speaker 1: in mine actually for both those spots, and you know 2213 01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:11,840 Speaker 1: that would be Teddy Bridgewater. You know, I think if 2214 01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:14,800 Speaker 1: you're looking at it, and if you're the Patriots and 2215 01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:16,640 Speaker 1: you look at some of the names that are out there, 2216 01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:18,880 Speaker 1: you might just want a guy who you know as 2217 01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:21,800 Speaker 1: great and tangible. It's going to be a strong leader, 2218 01:44:22,600 --> 01:44:25,040 Speaker 1: you know, great work ethic, all those different types of things, 2219 01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:26,920 Speaker 1: and doesn't make a lot of mistakes. You know, he's 2220 01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:29,240 Speaker 1: not gonna lose the game for you. So when you 2221 01:44:29,320 --> 01:44:32,720 Speaker 1: look at what the Patriots defense did last year, that 2222 01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:35,840 Speaker 1: might be a situation where maybe they grab Bridgewater, maybe 2223 01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:39,080 Speaker 1: they have faith in their backup Jared Stidham, or they 2224 01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:41,960 Speaker 1: draft another quarterback and they go that route. And I 2225 01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:45,479 Speaker 1: would expect a similar scenario for the Dancers. Now, maybe 2226 01:44:45,479 --> 01:44:48,360 Speaker 1: it could be Bridgewater, but I think it's someone who's 2227 01:44:48,439 --> 01:44:51,280 Speaker 1: kind of a bridge to the next guy. So maybe 2228 01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:54,559 Speaker 1: it's Andy Dalton, maybe it's Derek Carr if he becomes 2229 01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:57,320 Speaker 1: available from the Raiders. Just somebody who can kind of 2230 01:44:57,439 --> 01:44:59,439 Speaker 1: come in, give you a year or two, you can 2231 01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:02,040 Speaker 1: spend it, pick on a quarterback, and you can kind 2232 01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:04,400 Speaker 1: of take your way to sort of the next era 2233 01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:07,160 Speaker 1: with your organization. So here's my favorite of all of 2234 01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:09,880 Speaker 1: your twenty bold predictions. Are you ready number six? The 2235 01:45:10,040 --> 01:45:13,680 Speaker 1: Packers trade for Odell Beckham Junior. I'd just love to 2236 01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:17,040 Speaker 1: see Rogers Aaron Rodgers try to you know, the first 2237 01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:19,439 Speaker 1: time Odell runs a wrong route or something. I think 2238 01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:22,479 Speaker 1: they'd be a lot of fun. Yeah, there's no doubt 2239 01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:25,520 Speaker 1: in ballad it would have a chance to be explosive 2240 01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:27,559 Speaker 1: and it would be entertaining for all of us who 2241 01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:30,360 Speaker 1: talk about and write about football. But you know, I 2242 01:45:30,439 --> 01:45:33,280 Speaker 1: do think the Packers they're in this really weird spot 2243 01:45:33,320 --> 01:45:35,080 Speaker 1: where they've got a quarterback who was going to be 2244 01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:39,120 Speaker 1: thirty seven in December. You saw it last offseason with 2245 01:45:39,240 --> 01:45:41,439 Speaker 1: the new GM coming in, they were not afraid to 2246 01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:43,880 Speaker 1: be really aggressive. I mean they went out and went 2247 01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:47,519 Speaker 1: crazy and free agency with Zadarius Smith and Preston Smith 2248 01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:50,240 Speaker 1: and Adrian Amos. They were spending a lot of money. 2249 01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:53,080 Speaker 1: So now you flashed forward a year later, the quarterbacks 2250 01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:55,320 Speaker 1: another year older, but you still have this team that 2251 01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:58,879 Speaker 1: got to the NFC title game. I wouldn't be surprised 2252 01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:01,519 Speaker 1: if they've made some kind of some kind of drastic 2253 01:46:01,640 --> 01:46:04,840 Speaker 1: move to give him some help there. With Davante Adams, 2254 01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:07,000 Speaker 1: they really didn't have a second player kind of step 2255 01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:10,000 Speaker 1: up in the passing game to help out Davante Adam 2256 01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:12,400 Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers. So you're right, it could be sort 2257 01:46:12,439 --> 01:46:15,559 Speaker 1: of an explosive combination, but it could be a combination 2258 01:46:15,640 --> 01:46:17,400 Speaker 1: with some upside as well. One of the things I 2259 01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:20,680 Speaker 1: got to ask you is about the Tennessee Titans. You 2260 01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:23,000 Speaker 1: anticipate they're going to have a hard time getting back 2261 01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:26,320 Speaker 1: to the playoffs given their great run that they had 2262 01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:28,960 Speaker 1: at the end of the year. Is that only because 2263 01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:33,920 Speaker 1: Derry Henry and Ryan Tannehill are question marks at this point? Yeah, 2264 01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:36,360 Speaker 1: they're They're in a tough spot because if you look 2265 01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:39,240 Speaker 1: at it with Ryan Tannehill, you know, he was outstanding. 2266 01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:42,000 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. He had a tremendous run 2267 01:46:42,080 --> 01:46:44,760 Speaker 1: when he took over for Marcus Marioto. But this is 2268 01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:47,360 Speaker 1: like a ten game sample we're looking at. I mean, 2269 01:46:47,439 --> 01:46:50,880 Speaker 1: he completed seventy percent of his passes, averaged over nine 2270 01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:52,960 Speaker 1: yards per a time. That's been done by one other 2271 01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:56,160 Speaker 1: quarterback in NFL history, Joe Montana. And I don't think 2272 01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:58,320 Speaker 1: any of us would sit here and say that Ryan 2273 01:46:58,360 --> 01:47:00,760 Speaker 1: Tannehill is Joe Montana. So are you going to be 2274 01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:02,720 Speaker 1: able to get that type of play out of him 2275 01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:05,400 Speaker 1: for another year if you use the franchise tag or 2276 01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:09,040 Speaker 1: if you pay up to get him a long term extension. 2277 01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:11,320 Speaker 1: You know, I'm a little skeptical there and then Derrick 2278 01:47:11,400 --> 01:47:14,479 Speaker 1: Henry again, he was fantastic, there's no doubt about it. 2279 01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:17,880 Speaker 1: But the guy had four hundred and nine touches last season. 2280 01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:20,400 Speaker 1: You know, that's one hundred and seventy nine more touches 2281 01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:23,479 Speaker 1: than he's ever had before in his career. So is 2282 01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:25,439 Speaker 1: he going to be able to come back carry the 2283 01:47:25,479 --> 01:47:27,519 Speaker 1: ball for you like he did last year and be 2284 01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:29,800 Speaker 1: as effective? And then they've got, you know, some other 2285 01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:32,960 Speaker 1: question mark on the team. They're right back Jack Conklin, 2286 01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:35,080 Speaker 1: he's a free agent. They've got some guys on the 2287 01:47:35,160 --> 01:47:38,200 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. Logan Ryan, the cornerback who 2288 01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:41,160 Speaker 1: played really well, he's a free agent. So you know, 2289 01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:42,680 Speaker 1: if I had to pick a team that kind of 2290 01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:44,720 Speaker 1: made the playoffs and made a nice run this year, 2291 01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:47,320 Speaker 1: what think could take a step back next season? The 2292 01:47:47,439 --> 01:47:49,760 Speaker 1: Titans were the team I picked. There, Hill Capadia, the 2293 01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:51,439 Speaker 1: Athletic dot Com on the line with us Shield, I 2294 01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:53,920 Speaker 1: gotta thank you. You have put together a list of 2295 01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:57,840 Speaker 1: the top one hundred unrestricted NFL free agents. Very ambitious, 2296 01:47:57,960 --> 01:48:00,360 Speaker 1: very helpful to those of us who follow the stuff. 2297 01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:02,720 Speaker 1: And tell me you think you see a receiver out 2298 01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:04,479 Speaker 1: there who would fit the bill for maybe what the 2299 01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:06,840 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills will be looking for at the receiver market. 2300 01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:09,240 Speaker 1: Do you know what this is a really tough one 2301 01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:12,720 Speaker 1: because the wide receiver market is not great in free 2302 01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:15,599 Speaker 1: agency here. I mean, you've got a guy like Robbie 2303 01:48:15,640 --> 01:48:18,560 Speaker 1: Anderson from the Jet to his vertical threat. I know 2304 01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:21,280 Speaker 1: you guys are familiar with him from the Bills having 2305 01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:24,320 Speaker 1: played the Jet. You know he can certainly stretch the 2306 01:48:24,439 --> 01:48:27,600 Speaker 1: field and make plays downfield. But given that it's not 2307 01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:29,880 Speaker 1: a great class, the guy like that, I think is 2308 01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:32,320 Speaker 1: going to be pretty cost With you know, Tyrrell Williams 2309 01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:35,200 Speaker 1: last year I think got eleven million dollars per year, 2310 01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:38,160 Speaker 1: it could be in the same ballpark for Robbie Anderson, 2311 01:48:38,439 --> 01:48:39,920 Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know if that's going to 2312 01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:42,800 Speaker 1: be the best use of resources for a team looking 2313 01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:45,400 Speaker 1: to add wide receiver health. So you know, I almost 2314 01:48:45,439 --> 01:48:47,519 Speaker 1: look at it with the Bills, with you know, the 2315 01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:50,720 Speaker 1: production they got from John Brown last year, whether it 2316 01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:53,360 Speaker 1: be wiser to kind of hold out let the initial 2317 01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:56,200 Speaker 1: guys sign see if there's someone you know, maybe it's 2318 01:48:56,200 --> 01:48:59,400 Speaker 1: a veteran, maybe it's someone who becomes available via trade, 2319 01:48:59,439 --> 01:49:02,080 Speaker 1: and if that's not there, really just kind of addressed 2320 01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:05,080 Speaker 1: that meed through the draft. It's a very good class 2321 01:49:05,120 --> 01:49:07,960 Speaker 1: of wide receivers this year in the draft. You're not 2322 01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:10,880 Speaker 1: spending the same type of money on those guys. You 2323 01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:13,360 Speaker 1: have them under contract for four years. I think that 2324 01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:15,360 Speaker 1: might be the smarter way to go for the Pilms. 2325 01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:18,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you one more thing about one of 2326 01:49:18,160 --> 01:49:20,559 Speaker 1: the other teams that is a team that's picking at 2327 01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:22,519 Speaker 1: the top of the draft, the Cincinnati Bengals. They've got 2328 01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:24,720 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. He's got one year left on it with 2329 01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:27,040 Speaker 1: seventeen point five million on it. It sounds like a 2330 01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:28,760 Speaker 1: lot of money, and it is for all of us, 2331 01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:32,120 Speaker 1: but for an NFL quarterback, it's really not. So he 2332 01:49:32,240 --> 01:49:35,200 Speaker 1: could get traded to one of these teams that is 2333 01:49:35,320 --> 01:49:38,200 Speaker 1: gonna draft a young quarterback or who has a young 2334 01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:42,160 Speaker 1: quarterback as a mentor for a one year stint to 2335 01:49:42,280 --> 01:49:47,000 Speaker 1: finish up this contract. But it seems to me that 2336 01:49:47,080 --> 01:49:50,120 Speaker 1: would be a team like Cincinnati who's thinking about trading him. 2337 01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:52,519 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on Andy Dalton, his statue and 2338 01:49:52,920 --> 01:49:55,960 Speaker 1: his status in Cincinnati and how Joe Burrow may fit 2339 01:49:56,040 --> 01:49:59,640 Speaker 1: into it. Yeah, I think Joe Burrow looks like the 2340 01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:03,160 Speaker 1: kind the guy who would come in and start right away. 2341 01:50:03,200 --> 01:50:05,559 Speaker 1: I don't think that's a guy you're gonna sit down 2342 01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:08,679 Speaker 1: and kind of have him be the understudy for Andy Dalton, 2343 01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:11,320 Speaker 1: just given the progress we saw in both with his 2344 01:50:11,439 --> 01:50:14,519 Speaker 1: sort of mental processing, his skills of being able to 2345 01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:17,840 Speaker 1: kind of avoid pressure and be really good. So I 2346 01:50:17,920 --> 01:50:20,360 Speaker 1: think Burrow's going to come in for them and start 2347 01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:23,160 Speaker 1: right away, and it'll be interesting to see where Andy 2348 01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:25,080 Speaker 1: Dalton goes in. You know, maybe it is a team 2349 01:50:25,160 --> 01:50:27,960 Speaker 1: like we talked about, if New England loses Brady, if 2350 01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:30,760 Speaker 1: the Panthers move on from Cam Newton. I know some 2351 01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:32,960 Speaker 1: people have mentioned maybe Dalton would go to a team 2352 01:50:33,080 --> 01:50:35,599 Speaker 1: like the Bears, where you know it's not a situation 2353 01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:37,920 Speaker 1: or he's going to be the most threatening guy right 2354 01:50:37,960 --> 01:50:40,360 Speaker 1: to achrosity. At the same time, if things don't work 2355 01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:44,000 Speaker 1: out with you, at least have a starting caliber player 2356 01:50:44,120 --> 01:50:46,760 Speaker 1: right there and who can compete with them, or at 2357 01:50:46,800 --> 01:50:49,720 Speaker 1: least come in and get you competent play. So I 2358 01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:52,680 Speaker 1: would Dalton to probably go somewhere else, and I think 2359 01:50:52,760 --> 01:50:54,840 Speaker 1: Burrow is going to be able to play right away 2360 01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:57,120 Speaker 1: for the Bengals. Hey, he'll thanks for this good work, 2361 01:50:57,160 --> 01:50:58,800 Speaker 1: thanks for coming on with us. So you talk about it. 2362 01:50:59,479 --> 01:51:02,679 Speaker 1: We've got to thanks for having me. Shiell Capadia, NFL 2363 01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:05,879 Speaker 1: writer for the Athletic dot Com, former Eagles and Seahawks 2364 01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:07,760 Speaker 1: beat reporter, had a lot of good things to say. 2365 01:51:07,800 --> 01:51:10,080 Speaker 1: What have you finished up with? I have to confess, 2366 01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:12,080 Speaker 1: and we talked a little bit about it earlier this week. 2367 01:51:12,400 --> 01:51:15,360 Speaker 1: Are the Bears moving on from Mitchell Trubisky already? I mean, 2368 01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:19,840 Speaker 1: I know it's hasn't It hasn't been formalized, nothing's been said. 2369 01:51:19,880 --> 01:51:22,680 Speaker 1: But should they move on for Mitchell Trubisky? Maybe he's 2370 01:51:22,680 --> 01:51:24,720 Speaker 1: a question. What do you think? I think, so do you? 2371 01:51:25,479 --> 01:51:27,120 Speaker 1: I mean, they made a big move up in the 2372 01:51:27,200 --> 01:51:30,200 Speaker 1: draft to acquire him in the draft. Twelve win season 2373 01:51:30,240 --> 01:51:33,280 Speaker 1: out of him, so that's enough one year. That's not 2374 01:51:33,320 --> 01:51:35,559 Speaker 1: what they had in mind. No it's not. But they 2375 01:51:35,680 --> 01:51:38,639 Speaker 1: also have seen this guy in practice and every day 2376 01:51:38,680 --> 01:51:42,439 Speaker 1: for three years. And if they're ready to move on, 2377 01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:45,400 Speaker 1: it's for good reason. I think I'm a big fan 2378 01:51:45,479 --> 01:51:50,760 Speaker 1: of the John Elway method of quarterback handling. If he's 2379 01:51:50,840 --> 01:51:54,519 Speaker 1: not the guy, kick him to the curb now and 2380 01:51:54,760 --> 01:51:58,360 Speaker 1: go get another one run through. Those guys have somebody 2381 01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:00,040 Speaker 1: in the building who knows what they're looking at and 2382 01:52:00,200 --> 01:52:01,920 Speaker 1: find a guy that you can win with and win 2383 01:52:02,040 --> 01:52:04,840 Speaker 1: with consistently and win big with. Yeah, Well, other than 2384 01:52:04,960 --> 01:52:06,840 Speaker 1: looking until you find it, other than one season with 2385 01:52:06,920 --> 01:52:08,720 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, what does Elway have to show for that? 2386 01:52:09,320 --> 01:52:12,240 Speaker 1: He had four seasons with Peyton Manning. He had two 2387 01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:14,680 Speaker 1: Super Bowl appearances, one that he should have gotten to 2388 01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:18,920 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and got a safety overthrown for a 2389 01:52:19,520 --> 01:52:21,720 Speaker 1: desperation toss that cost them. Again, they should have been 2390 01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:25,880 Speaker 1: in three super Bowls with Peyton Manning, and that was 2391 01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:28,400 Speaker 1: a guy because of their defense. Even when Peyton Manning 2392 01:52:28,439 --> 01:52:30,320 Speaker 1: got him to a super Bowl, he wasn't leading them there. 2393 01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:32,439 Speaker 1: All I'm saying is what do they have to show 2394 01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:34,400 Speaker 1: that you're going to cycle through a player? Look, I 2395 01:52:34,439 --> 01:52:36,920 Speaker 1: believe in player development too. I think the Bills. I 2396 01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:39,240 Speaker 1: think the Bills are happy with Josh Allen, but I 2397 01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:41,040 Speaker 1: think they see how he needs to get better, They 2398 01:52:41,080 --> 01:52:43,560 Speaker 1: see where he needs to be developed. And so, so 2399 01:52:44,080 --> 01:52:46,519 Speaker 1: Josh Allen wasn't perfect this year. Should they be looking 2400 01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:49,280 Speaker 1: at the next guy? I don't think so. It's hard 2401 01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:51,639 Speaker 1: to find the right quarterback. And if a guy like Trubisky, 2402 01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:53,639 Speaker 1: If you got a guy like Trubisky, he was pretty 2403 01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:55,880 Speaker 1: good at a good year two years ago. You work 2404 01:52:55,960 --> 01:52:58,240 Speaker 1: with him, what's this, what are his weaknesses, Let's work 2405 01:52:58,280 --> 01:52:59,920 Speaker 1: on that, Let's get better at that. Let's not get 2406 01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:02,280 Speaker 1: up on him. That's all. I get it, and I 2407 01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:04,760 Speaker 1: agree with you to a certain extent. But I think 2408 01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:07,240 Speaker 1: if they've been trying to do that for three years 2409 01:53:07,400 --> 01:53:09,639 Speaker 1: and they're working at it and it's and it going, 2410 01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:12,960 Speaker 1: it's going backwards instead of forwards. Yeah, I don't know 2411 01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:15,080 Speaker 1: that he's done. I think I think they wouldn't be 2412 01:53:15,120 --> 01:53:17,599 Speaker 1: moving on if it wasn't. I think coach's egos getting 2413 01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:19,400 Speaker 1: the way like, oh my goodness, I better make a 2414 01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:21,040 Speaker 1: move here or I'm gonna be out. You know, we'll 2415 01:53:21,160 --> 01:53:23,400 Speaker 1: just relax and maybe get this guy better. You know, 2416 01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:25,640 Speaker 1: maybe the owners have to say to the coaches, we 2417 01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:27,479 Speaker 1: know you're working through that guy, and we know how 2418 01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:29,519 Speaker 1: hard it is to get a quarterback. Let's keep let's 2419 01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:31,519 Speaker 1: keep plugging away trying to get them better, and maybe 2420 01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:33,840 Speaker 1: after five years you make a move like that. But 2421 01:53:33,880 --> 01:53:37,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what Trubisky has been there three years. 2422 01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:40,200 Speaker 1: That's not enough time to see if he can play. Yeah, 2423 01:53:40,240 --> 01:53:43,479 Speaker 1: he came in the when Mahomes came same year. Yeah, one, two, three, 2424 01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:46,439 Speaker 1: and he started right away, won twelve games. Yeah, and 2425 01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:48,120 Speaker 1: that was not a fluke either. I mean he was 2426 01:53:48,360 --> 01:53:49,800 Speaker 1: he was a good player. As they made the move 2427 01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:53,919 Speaker 1: for Khalil Mack made a big splash, their defense escalated 2428 01:53:54,160 --> 01:53:59,080 Speaker 1: a big notch, and they had the double doink playoff. Yeah. Anyway, 2429 01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:00,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break, We're gonna come back and 2430 01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:02,200 Speaker 1: talk some more. We want to get you involved in 2431 01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:05,000 Speaker 1: our Twitter poll today. What should be the Bill's draft 2432 01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:08,120 Speaker 1: philosophy in the upcoming April draft a couple of months away. 2433 01:54:08,160 --> 01:54:10,960 Speaker 1: Give us a call to discuss. Eight three fifty toll 2434 01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:15,320 Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty one. 2435 01:54:15,400 --> 01:54:18,360 Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health from the Seneca Studio, 2436 01:54:18,439 --> 01:54:35,280 Speaker 1: Seneca Resorts and Casino. Nothing comes close. Welcome back one 2437 01:54:35,320 --> 01:54:38,040 Speaker 1: of those live John Murphy, see Tasker coming down the 2438 01:54:38,120 --> 01:54:41,200 Speaker 1: home stretch and down the stretch. Day come. We've got 2439 01:54:41,240 --> 01:54:43,040 Speaker 1: thirty minutes left. We got time for your phone calls. 2440 01:54:43,080 --> 01:54:46,000 Speaker 1: Eight three fifty toll free one eight eight eight five 2441 01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:49,160 Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty got a red hot Twitter poll 2442 01:54:49,240 --> 01:54:51,480 Speaker 1: that's been up all day and we're gonna revisit that 2443 01:54:51,640 --> 01:54:53,760 Speaker 1: right now. What do you think? What should the Bills 2444 01:54:53,880 --> 01:54:57,240 Speaker 1: draft philosophy be in a couple of months in April? 2445 01:54:57,320 --> 01:55:01,680 Speaker 1: And it's it's general obviously, we're just you know, general philosophy. 2446 01:55:02,040 --> 01:55:06,520 Speaker 1: But what should the draft philosophy be for them? For 2447 01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:09,200 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills coming up? We got a couple of 2448 01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:12,480 Speaker 1: options for you, and the number one selection is stay 2449 01:55:12,520 --> 01:55:14,720 Speaker 1: at twenty two where they are, and get the best 2450 01:55:14,720 --> 01:55:16,960 Speaker 1: player available. It's thirty six percent you say that's the 2451 01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:20,840 Speaker 1: way to go. Second best option according to participants, stay 2452 01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:24,320 Speaker 1: at twenty two, but go for a position of need. Okay. 2453 01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:27,240 Speaker 1: Twenty two percent say trade mid round picks. They got 2454 01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:29,480 Speaker 1: three or two in the fifth three and the six 2455 01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:34,080 Speaker 1: trade those picks for more draft for more early picks. Okay. 2456 01:55:34,440 --> 01:55:37,560 Speaker 1: Eighteen percent say trade up, get a difference maker. What 2457 01:55:37,680 --> 01:55:40,000 Speaker 1: do you think? Eight o three fifty toll free one 2458 01:55:40,160 --> 01:55:43,160 Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty from the tweet 2459 01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:46,360 Speaker 1: sheet from Tommy. So much depends on free agency. I 2460 01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:49,280 Speaker 1: think being would ideally like to take best player available 2461 01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:51,320 Speaker 1: at twenty two if he was able to fill any 2462 01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:54,040 Speaker 1: pressing needs in free agency. Based on history, I could 2463 01:55:54,040 --> 01:55:56,120 Speaker 1: see im packaging mid round picks to trade up on 2464 01:55:56,160 --> 01:56:00,520 Speaker 1: the second for a knee that slides za Zay Dawkins 2465 01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:03,040 Speaker 1: Ford like pick. I can see that happening, get a 2466 01:56:03,640 --> 01:56:08,240 Speaker 1: starting caliber players a Dawkins Ford in the second round. 2467 01:56:08,520 --> 01:56:11,800 Speaker 1: That's kind of why I love the drafts we've had 2468 01:56:11,920 --> 01:56:18,040 Speaker 1: with with Brandon Bean, everything's on the table, seems to 2469 01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:19,800 Speaker 1: be on the table. He'll do anything, He'll trade up, 2470 01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:24,080 Speaker 1: trade back, package, things go. He kind of goes off 2471 01:56:24,120 --> 01:56:26,840 Speaker 1: the board if you will, you know, for stuff that 2472 01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:29,800 Speaker 1: they want to happen do they almost never do what 2473 01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:32,040 Speaker 1: I expect him to do. They almost never just stand 2474 01:56:32,120 --> 01:56:34,960 Speaker 1: pad either. They are moving around all the time. And 2475 01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:37,200 Speaker 1: and I think it's just fun to be a part 2476 01:56:37,240 --> 01:56:41,120 Speaker 1: of and listen to and and uh and hear when 2477 01:56:41,200 --> 01:56:44,840 Speaker 1: it happens. It's it's great. With the nine picks, they've 2478 01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:48,560 Speaker 1: got six of which are in the fifth or five 2479 01:56:48,640 --> 01:56:50,200 Speaker 1: of which are in the fifth and sixth rounds. They 2480 01:56:50,240 --> 01:56:53,760 Speaker 1: have no seventh rounders. There's there's some packaging to be done. Um, 2481 01:56:53,880 --> 01:56:56,000 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be fun to watch that happen. Yeah, 2482 01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:57,520 Speaker 1: I think I ain't the one thing that being in 2483 01:56:57,680 --> 01:56:59,560 Speaker 1: his group. I mean it's not just him, it's Joe 2484 01:56:59,640 --> 01:57:02,400 Speaker 1: Shane and Dan Morgan and all of them. They're they're 2485 01:57:02,440 --> 01:57:04,920 Speaker 1: creative and finding solutions. You know what I mean that 2486 01:57:05,040 --> 01:57:06,920 Speaker 1: if it takes a trade and they haven't made a trade, 2487 01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:09,200 Speaker 1: a big trade involving players in a while, if it 2488 01:57:09,240 --> 01:57:11,120 Speaker 1: takes a trade, they'll do it. If it takes a 2489 01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:12,880 Speaker 1: you know, a move in the draft, they'll do it. 2490 01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:15,320 Speaker 1: And that's why I think we all as Bills fans, 2491 01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:17,800 Speaker 1: look forward to the next couple of months here right, 2492 01:57:18,440 --> 01:57:20,400 Speaker 1: we know they can be creative about making a move. 2493 01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:22,280 Speaker 1: What else you got by the tweet sheet, by the way, 2494 01:57:22,280 --> 01:57:24,840 Speaker 1: brought to you by Corrigan Moving systems. Official movers are 2495 01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:27,880 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. What's on your tweet sheet? See from Michael, 2496 01:57:27,920 --> 01:57:30,760 Speaker 1: he says, trade down possibly then trade back into the 2497 01:57:30,840 --> 01:57:34,400 Speaker 1: second and third round. This trade this draft has value 2498 01:57:34,440 --> 01:57:39,440 Speaker 1: throughout this year. Get value and need and that's trading. 2499 01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:42,120 Speaker 1: We've seen him do both those in the same draft. 2500 01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:45,760 Speaker 1: Trade down, trade up, and that's that is interesting to 2501 01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:48,520 Speaker 1: think about. You gotta end. He's right, you gotta get value. 2502 01:57:49,360 --> 01:57:51,960 Speaker 1: Hopefully you don't have any pressing needs. Even when before 2503 01:57:52,000 --> 01:57:54,440 Speaker 1: the draft starts. From Douggie, he says they are going 2504 01:57:54,480 --> 01:57:57,520 Speaker 1: to be quarterbacks taken early, some way earlier than they 2505 01:57:57,560 --> 01:58:01,400 Speaker 1: should be. That means some great players will slide. I say, 2506 01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:04,120 Speaker 1: stay put and get the best player available. We have 2507 01:58:04,240 --> 01:58:06,760 Speaker 1: more than one need. Stay put and let the other 2508 01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:11,400 Speaker 1: teams reach. At twenty two we can get talent. And yeah, 2509 01:58:11,600 --> 01:58:13,960 Speaker 1: I mean the twenty second pick is gonna be think 2510 01:58:13,960 --> 01:58:16,480 Speaker 1: about a top twenty five guy of all the thousands 2511 01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:19,800 Speaker 1: and thousands of college players available. Yeah, he's going to 2512 01:58:19,840 --> 01:58:21,920 Speaker 1: be a pretty good athlete. And you can bet he's 2513 01:58:21,960 --> 01:58:23,120 Speaker 1: going to be a guy that's going to get on 2514 01:58:23,160 --> 01:58:27,200 Speaker 1: the field for the Bills. Yep from Thomas tweets this 2515 01:58:27,320 --> 01:58:30,400 Speaker 1: in get the most impactful player offense or defense. With 2516 01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:33,560 Speaker 1: the current roster, it will be difficult for nine rookies 2517 01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:35,520 Speaker 1: to make the grade. Take some of that draft capital, 2518 01:58:35,800 --> 01:58:38,440 Speaker 1: package it and move up. I'd rather draft five very 2519 01:58:38,480 --> 01:58:40,720 Speaker 1: good players who would have a better chance to be impactful. 2520 01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:42,839 Speaker 1: I think you're right about that. I think you're absolutely 2521 01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:46,240 Speaker 1: right talking one strategy. We've been talking about it. You know, 2522 01:58:46,360 --> 01:58:48,640 Speaker 1: you think last year, if you're an offensive player at 2523 01:58:48,640 --> 01:58:51,040 Speaker 1: any position, you have a pretty good chance of being 2524 01:58:51,080 --> 01:58:53,400 Speaker 1: a contributor on this team. Last year, you know, coming 2525 01:58:53,440 --> 01:58:58,000 Speaker 1: into this last year, twenty nineteen, nine new starters hit 2526 01:58:58,080 --> 01:59:01,360 Speaker 1: the field on opening day. From the year before this 2527 01:59:01,560 --> 01:59:05,480 Speaker 1: last season, So whoever you drafted was gonna have a 2528 01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:08,920 Speaker 1: pretty good shot at getting a hard look and a 2529 01:59:09,040 --> 01:59:12,800 Speaker 1: hopeful look that you could contribute. Not so this year. 2530 01:59:14,960 --> 01:59:16,920 Speaker 1: Like I said, this roster doesn't have really holes in 2531 01:59:17,000 --> 01:59:19,000 Speaker 1: It's got more dents in it than holes, and that 2532 01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:23,800 Speaker 1: those are hard to you know, it's just hard to 2533 01:59:24,080 --> 01:59:26,600 Speaker 1: upgrade now. And so with all these nine picks, yeah, 2534 01:59:26,640 --> 01:59:28,960 Speaker 1: it's great. It would be better if it was reversed, 2535 01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:32,560 Speaker 1: if you had three first rounders two seconds and then 2536 01:59:32,680 --> 01:59:35,240 Speaker 1: one in each of the rounds that followed. But it's not. 2537 01:59:35,520 --> 01:59:37,600 Speaker 1: You got you got five picks in the fifth and 2538 01:59:37,680 --> 01:59:41,320 Speaker 1: sixth round, four in the first, one in each of 2539 01:59:41,360 --> 01:59:43,600 Speaker 1: the first four. So do you take what you get? 2540 01:59:43,680 --> 01:59:46,440 Speaker 1: But I'm I would be, I guess I would be. 2541 01:59:46,520 --> 01:59:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be really surprised if the Bills don't make 2542 01:59:48,640 --> 01:59:51,520 Speaker 1: a draft day trade for picks and packages and moving 2543 01:59:51,600 --> 01:59:55,240 Speaker 1: up or down. I'll be really surprised. I think we 2544 01:59:55,280 --> 01:59:57,920 Speaker 1: gotta see what happens before that. You know, maybe they 2545 01:59:57,960 --> 02:00:00,640 Speaker 1: make that trade before the draft, right, yeah, player, I 2546 02:00:00,640 --> 02:00:03,120 Speaker 1: don't well, yeah, that Bill's fan twelve to eighty three 2547 02:00:03,120 --> 02:00:05,160 Speaker 1: tweets this, and I voted to stay at twenty two. 2548 02:00:05,240 --> 02:00:07,680 Speaker 1: But I trust being in McDermott. They've shown me two 2549 02:00:07,720 --> 02:00:09,680 Speaker 1: straight years they know how to make good decisions in 2550 02:00:09,760 --> 02:00:11,880 Speaker 1: the draft. If they can do what they've been doing, 2551 02:00:11,920 --> 02:00:14,520 Speaker 1: the future is very bright. Indeed, I cannot wait to 2552 02:00:14,520 --> 02:00:17,200 Speaker 1: see the pieces that they add to this roster. Okay, 2553 02:00:18,400 --> 02:00:20,560 Speaker 1: let's I had it, now I lost it. I was 2554 02:00:20,600 --> 02:00:23,120 Speaker 1: gonna review what they've done in the traffic goal ahead. 2555 02:00:23,160 --> 02:00:25,320 Speaker 1: Read another tweet there. Okay from Crypto. He says, I 2556 02:00:25,400 --> 02:00:27,520 Speaker 1: believe we really need an edge rusher to help out 2557 02:00:27,560 --> 02:00:30,520 Speaker 1: our DBS. We need someone that can consistently get to 2558 02:00:30,560 --> 02:00:34,120 Speaker 1: the quarterback. I hope one day we get a premier 2559 02:00:34,240 --> 02:00:38,160 Speaker 1: pass rusher, we have depth, trade up and get a playmaker. 2560 02:00:38,400 --> 02:00:43,800 Speaker 1: We talked to that Hall I'm sorry bad Brown earlier 2561 02:00:43,840 --> 02:00:45,560 Speaker 1: in the in the show, and that was kind of 2562 02:00:45,680 --> 02:00:49,760 Speaker 1: his take on the entire Bill's roster. They need to 2563 02:00:49,840 --> 02:00:53,440 Speaker 1: get some some home They need some talent, some difference makers, 2564 02:00:53,480 --> 02:00:56,160 Speaker 1: some elite talent. This is a team that's ten got 2565 02:00:56,280 --> 02:00:58,320 Speaker 1: ten wins, but he's right, this is a team with 2566 02:00:58,480 --> 02:01:01,880 Speaker 1: higher expectations. In ten wins, they're trying to win a championship, 2567 02:01:02,080 --> 02:01:05,800 Speaker 1: and to do that, you need in your home run hitters. 2568 02:01:05,880 --> 02:01:08,360 Speaker 1: You need guys that can you can need guys that 2569 02:01:08,440 --> 02:01:10,640 Speaker 1: can make a difference that the other team is really 2570 02:01:10,720 --> 02:01:16,000 Speaker 1: worried about. And so that's and obviously Crypto thinks that's 2571 02:01:16,000 --> 02:01:18,760 Speaker 1: where the Bills need to go. Just get somebody that 2572 02:01:18,880 --> 02:01:21,360 Speaker 1: the defense of the opponent or the offense of the 2573 02:01:21,440 --> 02:01:25,040 Speaker 1: opponent just has no answer for. And they're hard to find. 2574 02:01:25,080 --> 02:01:26,280 Speaker 1: You're not going to get them in the fifth and 2575 02:01:26,320 --> 02:01:28,400 Speaker 1: sixth round, in my opinion. You got to get them 2576 02:01:28,400 --> 02:01:30,000 Speaker 1: in the first and then probably the top half of 2577 02:01:30,040 --> 02:01:33,560 Speaker 1: the first. Okay, just a review and you can make 2578 02:01:33,640 --> 02:01:35,640 Speaker 1: up your own mind on this. It's the third draft 2579 02:01:35,720 --> 02:01:37,360 Speaker 1: for It's gonna be the fourth draft for rather for 2580 02:01:37,480 --> 02:01:41,520 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, the third for Brandon Means since McDermott's been here. 2581 02:01:42,320 --> 02:01:45,920 Speaker 1: First year Trdavious White, Zay Jones no longer here, Dion Dawkins, 2582 02:01:46,000 --> 02:01:49,000 Speaker 1: Matt Mulano, Nathan Peterman in the fifth round, Tanner Vallejo 2583 02:01:49,400 --> 02:01:51,840 Speaker 1: in the sixth round. So three of those players no 2584 02:01:51,920 --> 02:01:54,120 Speaker 1: longer with the Bills. They drafted six eight year three 2585 02:01:54,160 --> 02:01:56,560 Speaker 1: of the six or with the Bills, Zay Jones still 2586 02:01:56,560 --> 02:01:59,680 Speaker 1: playing in the league. Peterman obviously, you know I think 2587 02:01:59,720 --> 02:02:01,560 Speaker 1: you might been a roster still in Tanner Vallejo, I 2588 02:02:01,640 --> 02:02:05,200 Speaker 1: think played in Cleveland last year twenty eighteen. First draft 2589 02:02:05,280 --> 02:02:09,320 Speaker 1: for Brandon Bean, second for Sean McDermott, A really solid draft, 2590 02:02:09,440 --> 02:02:12,960 Speaker 1: right Josh Allen, Formine, Edmonds, Harrison Phillips, Terren Johnson, Sir, 2591 02:02:13,080 --> 02:02:16,040 Speaker 1: and Neil Wyatt Teller has gone. He's at Cleveland, Ray 2592 02:02:16,120 --> 02:02:19,080 Speaker 1: Ray mccleoud hanging around on the practice squad. Austin Prowle 2593 02:02:19,160 --> 02:02:21,240 Speaker 1: in the seventh round. He's in the XFL now. And 2594 02:02:21,440 --> 02:02:24,000 Speaker 1: last year's draft another good one. It looks like ed Oliver, 2595 02:02:24,120 --> 02:02:28,080 Speaker 1: Cody Ford, Devin Singletary, Dawnson Knox, but Sean Joseph Chakwan Johnson, 2596 02:02:28,200 --> 02:02:31,880 Speaker 1: Darryl Johnson, Tommy Sweeney all what eight of them on 2597 02:02:32,000 --> 02:02:34,480 Speaker 1: the roster last year their first year. So yeah, the 2598 02:02:34,600 --> 02:02:37,520 Speaker 1: only ones you could say didn't work, I guess would be, well, 2599 02:02:37,560 --> 02:02:41,800 Speaker 1: they're no longer here, Peterman, Vallejo, Austin Prowle, maybe Wyatt Teller, 2600 02:02:41,880 --> 02:02:44,160 Speaker 1: but most of those guys are still playing in the league. 2601 02:02:44,280 --> 02:02:47,600 Speaker 1: Ryot Teller started some games for Cleveland this last year. Right, 2602 02:02:47,640 --> 02:02:49,560 Speaker 1: they're still in the league. They're still in the league playing, 2603 02:02:50,680 --> 02:02:53,320 Speaker 1: but they couldn't play on this team, and that's kind 2604 02:02:53,320 --> 02:02:54,720 Speaker 1: of what you're going to see a little bit more of. 2605 02:02:54,800 --> 02:02:56,480 Speaker 1: I think this year. If they get nine to those 2606 02:02:56,560 --> 02:02:59,760 Speaker 1: draft picks and you've got five of them in the 2607 02:02:59,760 --> 02:03:03,320 Speaker 1: fifth than sixth round, it's gonna be it's gonna be 2608 02:03:03,320 --> 02:03:05,320 Speaker 1: a hard roster to make. It's gonna be a training 2609 02:03:05,360 --> 02:03:07,840 Speaker 1: camp really for the first time in Sean mcdermot's tenure, 2610 02:03:07,880 --> 02:03:09,920 Speaker 1: where you're going there thinking, yeah, I know who the 2611 02:03:09,960 --> 02:03:12,800 Speaker 1: first eleven on defense are, or maybe the first fourteen 2612 02:03:12,840 --> 02:03:15,560 Speaker 1: on defense and the first fourteen on offense are gonna be. 2613 02:03:15,680 --> 02:03:18,080 Speaker 1: We kind of know those last year, we kind of 2614 02:03:18,120 --> 02:03:20,920 Speaker 1: thought we knew, but I had an idea. But all 2615 02:03:20,960 --> 02:03:23,520 Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's nine new guys, four new offensive 2616 02:03:23,560 --> 02:03:25,400 Speaker 1: line starters, and all the injuries they had in the 2617 02:03:25,440 --> 02:03:28,080 Speaker 1: offensive line last training camp, you didn't know who was 2618 02:03:28,080 --> 02:03:30,320 Speaker 1: gonna line up and not let alone who you didn't 2619 02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:33,520 Speaker 1: even know where. So there's a big question mark there. 2620 02:03:33,600 --> 02:03:35,960 Speaker 1: But this is one of those training camps I think 2621 02:03:36,000 --> 02:03:37,720 Speaker 1: coming up. I don't know if you'd agree with me 2622 02:03:37,840 --> 02:03:40,760 Speaker 1: or non Murph, but I there's gonna be some guys 2623 02:03:40,840 --> 02:03:43,920 Speaker 1: inked into the lineup rather than just Pencilvan. You got 2624 02:03:43,960 --> 02:03:46,120 Speaker 1: a long way to try, know so list like a 2625 02:03:46,600 --> 02:03:49,640 Speaker 1: lifetime time for NFL Tour False brought to you by 2626 02:03:49,760 --> 02:03:53,520 Speaker 1: Yancey's Fancy New York, New York's artisan Cheese. Are you ready? 2627 02:03:53,560 --> 02:03:57,080 Speaker 1: Here we go? After Patrick Mahomes, Deshaun Watson is the 2628 02:03:57,120 --> 02:03:59,600 Speaker 1: most clutch player in the NFL. That's according to a 2629 02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:03,960 Speaker 1: story and NFL dot Com. The incredible ability of Watson 2630 02:04:04,120 --> 02:04:07,080 Speaker 1: is more comeback wins eight over the last two seasons 2631 02:04:07,240 --> 02:04:10,240 Speaker 1: than anyone else in the NFL to will victories into 2632 02:04:10,320 --> 02:04:13,200 Speaker 1: existence in his own right. Did it against the Bills 2633 02:04:13,280 --> 02:04:15,040 Speaker 1: right in the playoff game, whether he's shrugging off a 2634 02:04:15,120 --> 02:04:17,440 Speaker 1: kick to the eye to beat the Raiders or escape 2635 02:04:17,640 --> 02:04:20,880 Speaker 1: escaping certain doom to secure his first playoff win against 2636 02:04:20,920 --> 02:04:22,480 Speaker 1: the Bills, Watson a show and he should never be 2637 02:04:22,560 --> 02:04:25,120 Speaker 1: counted out. He's up there as far as clutch players. 2638 02:04:25,120 --> 02:04:27,480 Speaker 1: I would say that might be true. After Patrick Mahomes, 2639 02:04:27,560 --> 02:04:30,480 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson might be the most clutch player in the league. Yeah, 2640 02:04:30,560 --> 02:04:32,920 Speaker 1: I think he might be more clutch than Patrick, but 2641 02:04:32,960 --> 02:04:35,440 Speaker 1: he's not as good. Oh yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 2642 02:04:36,680 --> 02:04:40,880 Speaker 1: he rises in those moments. We saw it ourselves we 2643 02:04:40,960 --> 02:04:42,840 Speaker 1: were victims of it here in Buffalo and that last 2644 02:04:42,920 --> 02:04:46,760 Speaker 1: play in overtime against Texans. And he has done it 2645 02:04:46,880 --> 02:04:48,960 Speaker 1: more than anybody in his short career. And this was 2646 02:04:49,200 --> 02:04:51,680 Speaker 1: an injury. He had, an injury that kept him out 2647 02:04:51,680 --> 02:04:53,160 Speaker 1: of an entire season. This is a guy that can 2648 02:04:53,200 --> 02:04:55,640 Speaker 1: really go. And I would almost say yes too. I 2649 02:04:55,720 --> 02:04:58,440 Speaker 1: know it's hard to make a pronouncement like that because 2650 02:04:58,520 --> 02:05:01,360 Speaker 1: week to week, some guys play well in the closing 2651 02:05:01,400 --> 02:05:04,000 Speaker 1: moments of the game. So maybe on that week because 2652 02:05:04,040 --> 02:05:08,200 Speaker 1: the opportunity and the circumstances, another guy plays puts together 2653 02:05:08,280 --> 02:05:12,720 Speaker 1: a clutch performance. But yeah, Deshaun Watson seems like he 2654 02:05:12,960 --> 02:05:16,480 Speaker 1: has that gene. We've attributed it to Josh at different times. 2655 02:05:18,080 --> 02:05:21,200 Speaker 1: Those guys are And somebody made the great analogy this 2656 02:05:21,400 --> 02:05:27,480 Speaker 1: week and it was Bucky Bucky Brooks the NFL quarterback spot. Now, 2657 02:05:27,680 --> 02:05:31,080 Speaker 1: it's about guys who can score. It's not about shooters, 2658 02:05:31,680 --> 02:05:33,040 Speaker 1: you know, It's not about guys who can just sit 2659 02:05:33,120 --> 02:05:35,680 Speaker 1: back and throw. It's about guys who make plays. That's 2660 02:05:35,760 --> 02:05:37,480 Speaker 1: the kind of the difference. You're talking about a guy 2661 02:05:37,520 --> 02:05:40,760 Speaker 1: who can sit back and throw the football accurately into 2662 02:05:40,840 --> 02:05:43,520 Speaker 1: a coin slot. Yeah, I get it. And you still 2663 02:05:43,560 --> 02:05:45,520 Speaker 1: need to do that, but now it's about guys who 2664 02:05:45,560 --> 02:05:50,520 Speaker 1: can break, contain outrun guys formulate a pass play on 2665 02:05:50,680 --> 02:05:54,760 Speaker 1: the run, impromptu, just anything to stay on the field 2666 02:05:54,800 --> 02:05:59,160 Speaker 1: as an offense, and certainly Deshaun Watson has proven he's 2667 02:05:59,160 --> 02:06:01,480 Speaker 1: one of those guys. Part two, NFL True or False. 2668 02:06:02,040 --> 02:06:05,480 Speaker 1: Jared Goff, Rams quarterback absolutely the best guy to be 2669 02:06:05,560 --> 02:06:09,480 Speaker 1: quarterback for the Rams. Sean McVay brought his coordinators his 2670 02:06:09,600 --> 02:06:12,680 Speaker 1: new coaching hires before the media yesterday. Didn't bring the 2671 02:06:12,760 --> 02:06:15,320 Speaker 1: quarterback forward. But they aren't. They appear to be committed 2672 02:06:15,360 --> 02:06:18,560 Speaker 1: to him. Brandon Cooks for Rams wide receiver, says absolutely 2673 02:06:18,880 --> 02:06:21,040 Speaker 1: he is the guy for the Rams. He said, so 2674 02:06:21,120 --> 02:06:24,120 Speaker 1: many different position changes on the offensive line, Jared Goff 2675 02:06:24,280 --> 02:06:27,320 Speaker 1: held us together, too many inconsistencies. The heart of the 2676 02:06:27,320 --> 02:06:30,840 Speaker 1: team struggles, according to Brandon Cooks. But as Jared Goff, 2677 02:06:30,920 --> 02:06:33,680 Speaker 1: absolutely the guy for the Rams. Is very hard to 2678 02:06:33,760 --> 02:06:38,840 Speaker 1: replace a franchise quarterback. I'm not convinced. I'm gonna say 2679 02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:41,600 Speaker 1: a medium false on this one. I'm not convinced he's 2680 02:06:41,640 --> 02:06:44,400 Speaker 1: the guy. I mean, look, he might have a bounce 2681 02:06:44,480 --> 02:06:46,360 Speaker 1: back here, but if he is another bad one, he 2682 02:06:46,440 --> 02:06:48,240 Speaker 1: won't be the guy. I'm just I'm not a Jared 2683 02:06:48,280 --> 02:06:49,800 Speaker 1: Goff fan. I don't know how much he brings to 2684 02:06:49,880 --> 02:06:51,960 Speaker 1: the party there for the Rams, yeah, I think he 2685 02:06:52,800 --> 02:06:57,880 Speaker 1: benefited from the boost the entire organization got from Sean 2686 02:06:58,000 --> 02:07:04,360 Speaker 1: McVay being hired two years ago this year. And for me, 2687 02:07:04,880 --> 02:07:06,360 Speaker 1: if you want to be one of those guys that 2688 02:07:06,400 --> 02:07:09,200 Speaker 1: we're talking about, the Drew Breeses, the Dan Marinos, the 2689 02:07:10,000 --> 02:07:13,320 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers of the world, Ben Roethlisburgers of the world, 2690 02:07:13,320 --> 02:07:15,600 Speaker 1: all those guys you can name if you want to 2691 02:07:15,600 --> 02:07:17,040 Speaker 1: beat Tom Brady's the world, if you want to be 2692 02:07:17,120 --> 02:07:21,000 Speaker 1: one of those guys like Tom Brady, but don't matter. 2693 02:07:21,080 --> 02:07:25,480 Speaker 1: He had, he had nobody around him. He still remains competitive. 2694 02:07:25,640 --> 02:07:28,200 Speaker 1: His offense didn't carry the team, but they won twelve 2695 02:07:28,280 --> 02:07:30,320 Speaker 1: games with him, And that's what I want to see. 2696 02:07:30,400 --> 02:07:32,520 Speaker 1: Jared Gobby, I don't care about what's going on around him. 2697 02:07:32,680 --> 02:07:36,880 Speaker 1: A quarterback should elevate everybody. And if you're not going 2698 02:07:36,960 --> 02:07:38,560 Speaker 1: to be one of those guys, you're not gonna be. 2699 02:07:38,840 --> 02:07:41,160 Speaker 1: But I saw this. There were guys they were in 2700 02:07:41,240 --> 02:07:44,000 Speaker 1: my era who played with a lot of bad rosters 2701 02:07:44,080 --> 02:07:46,560 Speaker 1: who still were winning games. Dan Marino being one of them. 2702 02:07:47,600 --> 02:07:49,440 Speaker 1: Jared Gobs gotta, I don't care the guy, what's going 2703 02:07:49,480 --> 02:07:53,200 Speaker 1: on around him. Quarterback, steady him and win games. And 2704 02:07:53,920 --> 02:07:56,720 Speaker 1: when you do that, then you can absolutely be the guy. 2705 02:07:56,800 --> 02:07:59,720 Speaker 1: But until then, you're not true or false false? Okay 2706 02:08:00,160 --> 02:08:03,880 Speaker 1: number three. The NFL has asked teams for feedback on 2707 02:08:04,000 --> 02:08:08,440 Speaker 1: the prospect of expanding flex scheduling, including the possibility of 2708 02:08:08,480 --> 02:08:10,440 Speaker 1: moving games from Sunday to Monday in the middle of 2709 02:08:10,520 --> 02:08:14,200 Speaker 1: the season. There's no specifics on the plan. It's an 2710 02:08:14,240 --> 02:08:16,520 Speaker 1: open ending question that went to teams. How much flexing 2711 02:08:16,560 --> 02:08:18,880 Speaker 1: could they handle. It wouldn't go into effect till twenty 2712 02:08:19,000 --> 02:08:23,480 Speaker 1: twenty three, flexing Monday night football games. What do you 2713 02:08:23,520 --> 02:08:27,320 Speaker 1: think would that hurt the fans? Shortwood True, Absolutely true. 2714 02:08:27,520 --> 02:08:29,040 Speaker 1: It would only hurt the fans. It would be great 2715 02:08:29,040 --> 02:08:30,760 Speaker 1: for teams. What do we what we're gonna do to 2716 02:08:30,800 --> 02:08:34,640 Speaker 1: side on Friday? You're playing side on Thursday, playing tonight, 2717 02:08:34,680 --> 02:08:36,640 Speaker 1: you play on Saturday, playing Sunday or Monday? What do 2718 02:08:36,680 --> 02:08:38,960 Speaker 1: you want to play? Come on? You know there's seventy 2719 02:08:39,000 --> 02:08:41,640 Speaker 1: three thousand people who show up here every weekday. They 2720 02:08:41,720 --> 02:08:43,440 Speaker 1: have a steake in it, right, You can't change their 2721 02:08:43,480 --> 02:08:46,000 Speaker 1: plans like that, right, especially a Monday night game. We 2722 02:08:46,120 --> 02:08:47,800 Speaker 1: were talking about it earlier, and I say, well, for 2723 02:08:48,160 --> 02:08:50,880 Speaker 1: the Sunday afternoon, you take away from one fan base, 2724 02:08:51,000 --> 02:08:52,760 Speaker 1: you give it back to the other two fan bases. 2725 02:08:52,800 --> 02:08:56,760 Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing too, They're gonna flex these games. 2726 02:08:56,800 --> 02:08:59,040 Speaker 1: They usually do it. They have twelve days to do it, 2727 02:08:59,720 --> 02:09:02,840 Speaker 1: so it's before the game, before that they're gonna tell 2728 02:09:02,880 --> 02:09:05,120 Speaker 1: you that you're Monday night game. In two games. It 2729 02:09:05,200 --> 02:09:07,240 Speaker 1: may not be enough time because you know, people do 2730 02:09:07,520 --> 02:09:11,040 Speaker 1: change your mind with you. People and in Buffalo argue 2731 02:09:11,040 --> 02:09:13,120 Speaker 1: about this. People in Buffalo make their playing, you know, 2732 02:09:13,240 --> 02:09:15,520 Speaker 1: making months in advantage. Right, Everybody's like, like on that 2733 02:09:15,600 --> 02:09:18,760 Speaker 1: Monday night game, I say, we're playing in Vegas. We're 2734 02:09:18,800 --> 02:09:21,080 Speaker 1: gonna go and we'll catch the Monday night game in 2735 02:09:21,160 --> 02:09:23,320 Speaker 1: Vegas day. Then we'll come back Wednesday, whatever, We'll take 2736 02:09:23,320 --> 02:09:25,040 Speaker 1: a couple of vacation days, you know that kind of 2737 02:09:25,120 --> 02:09:29,440 Speaker 1: thing that happens. And and even though and now now 2738 02:09:29,480 --> 02:09:34,600 Speaker 1: it messes with four fan bases, not two, four and 2739 02:09:34,720 --> 02:09:38,520 Speaker 1: the and with no notice, with twelve days notice. So 2740 02:09:38,800 --> 02:09:41,160 Speaker 1: have you completely come around on this question a little bit? 2741 02:09:41,840 --> 02:09:44,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to have a fight with you about this. No, 2742 02:09:44,840 --> 02:09:47,720 Speaker 1: I'm because I'm saying it's true, hurt the power. I don't. 2743 02:09:47,720 --> 02:09:50,480 Speaker 1: It's only hurt because the player. Come on, I played 2744 02:09:51,240 --> 02:09:54,760 Speaker 1: for a minute, don't matter what day the game's on. 2745 02:09:55,280 --> 02:09:57,720 Speaker 1: These guys are in their twenties and turpies their razor 2746 02:09:58,000 --> 02:10:03,200 Speaker 1: sharp and with their seven the conditions right, and they're 2747 02:10:03,240 --> 02:10:05,920 Speaker 1: the ones that got to deal with it the player. Listen. 2748 02:10:06,160 --> 02:10:07,720 Speaker 1: I know that there are guys who have played in 2749 02:10:07,760 --> 02:10:09,520 Speaker 1: the NFL that don't even know how to check into 2750 02:10:09,600 --> 02:10:12,840 Speaker 1: a hotel. Because they walk in the hotel, they hand 2751 02:10:12,920 --> 02:10:15,800 Speaker 1: you the envelope with your key and number on it. 2752 02:10:15,840 --> 02:10:19,120 Speaker 1: He just walked to the elevator and go up. When 2753 02:10:19,200 --> 02:10:21,720 Speaker 1: guys left the NFL, they walked in, they said, where's 2754 02:10:21,760 --> 02:10:24,960 Speaker 1: the table with my envelope? Right? You didn't even know 2755 02:10:25,000 --> 02:10:28,600 Speaker 1: how to do it, and so you're taking care of 2756 02:10:28,720 --> 02:10:31,240 Speaker 1: It's not about the players, it's about the It's about 2757 02:10:31,240 --> 02:10:33,800 Speaker 1: the fans, and they're the ones that kind of like, ah, man, 2758 02:10:33,880 --> 02:10:35,680 Speaker 1: we had a Monday night game, Now we don't. I 2759 02:10:35,840 --> 02:10:38,200 Speaker 1: was really hoping we could argue about that. I've been 2760 02:10:38,200 --> 02:10:40,760 Speaker 1: in the moon for an arguments. I've been waiting all 2761 02:10:40,800 --> 02:10:43,400 Speaker 1: day to argue and waiting all day. There you go, 2762 02:10:43,560 --> 02:10:45,880 Speaker 1: NFL true or Falls. Brought to you by Yancey's, Fancy 2763 02:10:46,280 --> 02:10:48,400 Speaker 1: New York's artists and Cheese. We'll take a break. We're 2764 02:10:48,480 --> 02:10:50,800 Speaker 1: back One Bill's Live, presented by a Collada Health from 2765 02:10:50,840 --> 02:10:53,920 Speaker 1: the Seneca Studio in Archard Park. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. 2766 02:11:10,280 --> 02:11:12,160 Speaker 1: I want to we learned from today's show brought to 2767 02:11:12,200 --> 02:11:15,560 Speaker 1: you by Skyworks, the official construction rental company of the 2768 02:11:15,560 --> 02:11:17,800 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Had a good show today. That Brown joined 2769 02:11:17,840 --> 02:11:21,400 Speaker 1: us from w r OCTV in Rochester. We asked them 2770 02:11:21,440 --> 02:11:23,440 Speaker 1: what the Bills could do in the offseason and free agency. 2771 02:11:23,480 --> 02:11:26,440 Speaker 1: Here's what he had to say. I think, you know, 2772 02:11:26,560 --> 02:11:28,440 Speaker 1: considering what I want to do with the guys I have, 2773 02:11:28,680 --> 02:11:30,280 Speaker 1: is the first thing I'm thinking about right now. Do 2774 02:11:30,360 --> 02:11:32,640 Speaker 1: I want to sign Trade White right this second? You know? 2775 02:11:32,720 --> 02:11:34,920 Speaker 1: Maybe what's my plan with Josh Allen down the road. 2776 02:11:34,960 --> 02:11:36,720 Speaker 1: I want to make sure I have my internal ducks 2777 02:11:36,760 --> 02:11:39,000 Speaker 1: in a row before I'm I'm looking outside. But when 2778 02:11:39,040 --> 02:11:41,120 Speaker 1: it comes to free agency, you know, the thing that 2779 02:11:41,160 --> 02:11:42,800 Speaker 1: I think the Bills can really make an impact this 2780 02:11:42,920 --> 02:11:45,080 Speaker 1: year is with a pass rusher. I think there's a 2781 02:11:45,120 --> 02:11:48,120 Speaker 1: pretty elite group of pass rushers available in free agency, 2782 02:11:48,280 --> 02:11:50,800 Speaker 1: and a group that can you know, make you elite 2783 02:11:50,880 --> 02:11:53,560 Speaker 1: in that spot. I think it's hard to find elite 2784 02:11:53,680 --> 02:11:55,960 Speaker 1: players when it comes to free agency. Guys who are 2785 02:11:56,000 --> 02:11:58,400 Speaker 1: elite don't make it the free agency because they're elite. 2786 02:11:58,440 --> 02:12:00,800 Speaker 1: And I think the Bills have an oppu with that 2787 02:12:00,920 --> 02:12:02,960 Speaker 1: group maybe to make an impact and when it comes 2788 02:12:02,960 --> 02:12:05,480 Speaker 1: to signing guys off the street. Man Brown of Channel 2789 02:12:05,520 --> 02:12:08,040 Speaker 1: eight in Rochester joining us also today. A little bit 2790 02:12:08,080 --> 02:12:11,360 Speaker 1: earlier this hour, Shiel Capadia and he wrote a post 2791 02:12:11,440 --> 02:12:14,000 Speaker 1: for the Athletic dot Com predicted that Bill's running back 2792 02:12:14,040 --> 02:12:16,640 Speaker 1: Devin Singletary will win the rushing title this year. Here's 2793 02:12:16,680 --> 02:12:19,840 Speaker 1: what shil Capadia said. I was a big fan of 2794 02:12:19,960 --> 02:12:23,760 Speaker 1: his coming out of college, coming into the draft last year, 2795 02:12:23,880 --> 02:12:26,920 Speaker 1: and then seeing what he did with the Bills last year, 2796 02:12:27,040 --> 02:12:29,120 Speaker 1: or you know, once he got over those injuries as 2797 02:12:29,200 --> 02:12:32,600 Speaker 1: his role expanded, averaged over five yards per carry. I 2798 02:12:32,720 --> 02:12:34,560 Speaker 1: you know, I thought during the second half of the 2799 02:12:34,640 --> 02:12:37,120 Speaker 1: season he was really one of the you know, maybe 2800 02:12:37,200 --> 02:12:40,280 Speaker 1: top five, top ten running back in the NFL. And 2801 02:12:40,400 --> 02:12:42,320 Speaker 1: so I think if you're looking at a guy who 2802 02:12:42,400 --> 02:12:45,000 Speaker 1: can really make a leap, who's gonna have the opportunity, 2803 02:12:45,040 --> 02:12:48,160 Speaker 1: who's gonna have the touches I really liked everything about 2804 02:12:48,240 --> 02:12:49,960 Speaker 1: his game, from the way he could make the whole 2805 02:12:50,040 --> 02:12:53,760 Speaker 1: miss break, tackles and vision, all those different types of things. 2806 02:12:54,160 --> 02:12:55,880 Speaker 1: I think he's got a chance to make a pretty 2807 02:12:55,960 --> 02:12:58,080 Speaker 1: pretty big leap in a second season. There you go, 2808 02:12:58,200 --> 02:13:01,720 Speaker 1: shil Capadia. Tomorrow show should be interesting. Steve Ruben Brown 2809 02:13:01,840 --> 02:13:04,600 Speaker 1: birthday boy today? Right, isn't today's birthday? Yeah, he's gonna 2810 02:13:04,600 --> 02:13:06,680 Speaker 1: be with us tomorrow after he's done celebrating his birthday. 2811 02:13:06,960 --> 02:13:09,440 Speaker 1: That could be funny. He's like twenty eight or something. 2812 02:13:10,440 --> 02:13:13,440 Speaker 1: Also tomorrow. Christin Fourier, remember him played tight end for 2813 02:13:13,480 --> 02:13:15,200 Speaker 1: the Patriots. What are we talking with him about? I 2814 02:13:15,240 --> 02:13:17,680 Speaker 1: can't remember. It was explained to me, oh, Bob Brady. 2815 02:13:17,760 --> 02:13:20,040 Speaker 1: Does Brady go back to New England? Christin Fourier. I 2816 02:13:20,160 --> 02:13:23,520 Speaker 1: think he says he's doubtful that he's going back, right, Yeah, 2817 02:13:23,640 --> 02:13:25,960 Speaker 1: it's yeah, I don't know. I don't see it. You 2818 02:13:26,040 --> 02:13:30,360 Speaker 1: disagree with Christin Fourier. He's not leaving. I still don't 2819 02:13:30,400 --> 02:13:32,840 Speaker 1: believe it. I still don't believe the Raiders are getting 2820 02:13:32,880 --> 02:13:34,840 Speaker 1: rid of Derek Carr either. What do they think? Are 2821 02:13:34,880 --> 02:13:37,600 Speaker 1: they for sure? That's all over the place. People think 2822 02:13:37,640 --> 02:13:39,200 Speaker 1: they're getting rid of those guys. I don't know, I 2823 02:13:39,240 --> 02:13:41,320 Speaker 1: don't care. I'm going to hockey game tonight by Christin 2824 02:13:41,400 --> 02:13:44,280 Speaker 1: Fourier joined us along with Ruben Brown, Tomorrow production assistance, 2825 02:13:44,720 --> 02:13:48,080 Speaker 1: George Blast, Jeff Colteneck Thomas, honald Or, Kelly Rude, j 2826 02:13:48,280 --> 02:13:51,280 Speaker 1: j Arito, Kevin carg James Robo producer Jay Harris. We'll 2827 02:13:51,320 --> 02:13:53,360 Speaker 1: see you tomorrow at noon. One Bill's Live, presented by 2828 02:13:53,400 --> 02:13:56,280 Speaker 1: Kalada Health from the Seneca Studio at One Bill's Drive. 2829 02:13:56,440 --> 02:14:07,600 Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Its incidence is expensiviss las