1 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 1: Hi again everybody. I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth podcast The Oh won't You stay just 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: a little bit longer. Addition, as the Bengals announced that 4 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: offensive lineman Dalton Reisner has agreed to a one year 5 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: contract extension. Coming up. Two conversations with Reisner. First, my 6 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: one on one visit shortly after he put pen to 7 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: paper on the new deal, and later, in case you 8 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: missed it, my fun facts conversation with him from earlier 9 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: this year. And in between those two interviews, I'll talk 10 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: to NFL network analytics expert Cynthia Freeland. 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Now. Admittedly, they were looking to upgrade in 38 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: previous offseasons, but that wasn't necessary this year. Beginning with 39 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: the Green Bay game in mid October, so we're talking 40 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: about the final twelve games of the year. Pro Football 41 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: Focus had the Bengals O line graded sixth in the 42 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: league in pass protection. Sixth, not top half. We're talking 43 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: in the top twenty percent. And again it's not a 44 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: small sample size. That was for a dozen games. Dalton 45 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: Reisner started nine of them, and we'll be back at 46 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: right guard for at least one more year. One day 47 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 1: after the season ended, Amarius Mims cam pain for the 48 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: Bengals to bring Reisner back. 49 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: I want him back. I want to do my right 50 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 2: guard for as long as I'm here. And I think 51 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: he's the best right guard in the NFL. So I really, 52 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: I really, like I said, I really hope he can 53 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 2: get signed back. But in about thirty minutes, I'll be 54 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 2: posted that Darton Rosely back, So that will be happening today. 55 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: Best starting right guard in the NFL. That's a strong statement. 56 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 3: My opinion. 57 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like, you know, weekend and week out, 58 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 2: he showed that, you know, he's a great player, and 59 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: you know the communication part and how good we play together. 60 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: I feel like he's one of the best. So you know, 61 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: I'll stand on it. 62 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: Offensive coordinator Dan Pitcher didn't go so far as calling 63 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: Reisner the best right guard in the league, but did 64 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: sing his praises before the end of the season. Thlam 65 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: does a lot of little. 66 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 4: Things that are unspectacular, but they matter. He just brings 67 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 4: savviness and positive energy. He's I mean almost it's almost 68 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 4: every play he's the first guy down there to grab 69 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 4: the guy off the ground like those are. 70 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: That's a that. 71 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: Doesn't affect the execution of what just happened in the play, 72 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: but it absolutely affects the health of the team and 73 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: the health. 74 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 3: Of the unit and the chemistry. 75 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: And so he does a lot of little things on 76 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: top of just being a good football player. Reisner signed 77 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: a new contract around nine thirty in the morning on Monday, 78 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: spent some time with Mike Brown and other members of 79 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: the front office, and then was kind enough to sit 80 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: down with me for this one on one conversation. Dalton. 81 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: Last year you signed eleven days before the start of 82 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: the regular season. Today is six months and eleven days 83 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: from the first Sunday up next season. Are you relieved 84 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: to have this done now? Wow? 85 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 4: Wait, nice job looking at the days. That's crazy six 86 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 4: So I have a six month advantage. I mean I 87 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 4: was just about to get into it to it, but 88 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 4: I am so it's almost not it is a I 89 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 4: am relieved. 90 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: You know, it's so tough. The last three years, I've. 91 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 4: Been picked up the second week of September, the last 92 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 4: day in August, this last year, June, year before, and 93 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 4: it's always been a rat race to get myself mentally 94 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 4: and physically ready. But at the same token, I the 95 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 4: reason I was able to do that is because I. 96 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:10,239 Speaker 3: Did stay ready. 97 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 4: And I take so much pride in how hard that 98 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 4: was six seven months of my own off season to 99 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 4: make sure I stay prepared to come in here and 100 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 4: play for these different teams. But regardless, this is where 101 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 4: I wanted to be the whole time. And you never 102 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 4: know when you go in and you play football every 103 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 4: year if it's going to be your last. Because with 104 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 4: this job is such a the way I look at 105 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 4: it is such a blessing. And taking a league minimum 106 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 4: deal and showing up on a team September first and 107 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 4: not playing the best in your second game, thought I 108 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 4: played well in Cleveland, but not playing well and kind 109 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 4: of losing your job. 110 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 3: You know, it didn't look it didn't look good from. 111 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 4: Where Dalton Riser was at, and I just am so 112 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 4: grateful to be sitting here today, and I feel overwhelmed 113 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 4: with like gratitude for where I'm at and to be 114 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 4: signed back with the Bengals. I'm not acting like I'm 115 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 4: signing a four year extension that is ridiculous money, but 116 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 4: for me and where I come from and. 117 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 3: The story and the journey that I have, I'm so 118 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 3: thrilled to. 119 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 4: Be here and so grateful for like everybody man like 120 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,119 Speaker 4: all the way up to the Brown family, to Duke, 121 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 4: to Steve, to Zach, to Pitch, to Scott Peters, down 122 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 4: to everyone in the media department and Jeff and Dan, 123 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. 124 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: Everybody Like I wish that the cafeteria was. 125 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 4: Open so I could go hug everyone there, so I 126 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 4: better stop there. 127 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:28,799 Speaker 3: But very relieved and grateful. 128 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: At the end of the season, you told me the 129 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: following quote, I feel overwhelmed by the unwavering love and 130 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: support of my teammates and coaches. That is a powerful statement. 131 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: How did they show that to you? 132 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 4: They showed it by being so outspoken about wanting to 133 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 4: have me back. I've been in the NFL for eight 134 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 4: years now, and I've never had teammates. I've had teammates 135 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 4: tell me behind closed doors all the time how much 136 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 4: they loved me and that's a really cool thing and 137 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 4: want me back, But then to take it to the 138 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 4: next step and publicly come out and talk about how 139 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 4: much they want me back. For a Marius Mems to 140 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 4: do that, for Ted Carris to do that, I know, 141 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow doesn't really didn't really ever maybe say it 142 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 4: to media reporters, but he made it very clear to me. 143 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow was contacting me throughout the whole offseason, staying 144 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 4: in touch with me and how this deal was going. 145 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 4: And Scott Peters and Zach Taylor, and yeah, it's really 146 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 4: cool that they all said that, but it's so cool 147 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 4: that they all took the next step in being proactive 148 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 4: of checking. 149 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 3: In and really wanting this thing done. 150 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 4: And I think you always see if people really mean 151 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 4: something by if they just say it once and it's 152 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 4: kind of left at that, or do they continue to 153 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 4: check in, do they continue to wonder, they continue to 154 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 4: ask you, do they continue to be outspoken about it? 155 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: And that's exactly what they did. 156 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 4: And that's why I feel the way I do today 157 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,679 Speaker 4: is because of all the people that made this happen. 158 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 4: It wasn't just Dalton Reisner having a good season and 159 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 4: the Bengals wanting to re sign me. That's what the 160 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 4: story will be, but there was a lot more behind 161 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 4: the scenes. 162 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: In my opinion, As you mentioned, you basically played for 163 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: the veteran minimum last year. You don't get to do 164 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: this for wherever. Did you feel like you had to 165 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: make up for that a little bit as you negotiated 166 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: a new deal? 167 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 3: I did. 168 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 4: And you know, in this league, you always have so 169 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 4: many people that doubt you. And when I took this deal, 170 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 4: I won't say any names, but there was a few 171 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 4: people that even mentioned to me and said, once you 172 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 4: take a deal like this, you'll never get out. And 173 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 4: I'm not saying that I knew I was gonna defeat that, 174 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 4: but it really infuriated me because I never liked to 175 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 4: have a ceiling put on what I can do and 176 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 4: what I take a lot of pride in dan is 177 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 4: when I was binged and I was on a league 178 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 4: minimum deal and I was in year seven, you have 179 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 4: two choices in that time, and it's don't it's either 180 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 4: be who Dalton is or be who Dalton is and 181 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 4: who is Dalton gonna be? It's do I put my 182 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 4: head down and do I say this is it and 183 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 4: I change my character and I pout, or I put 184 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 4: my head down and I grind and I make sure 185 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 4: that if I get another opportunity, I'm ready to seize it. 186 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 3: And that's exactly what I did. 187 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 4: And man, I'm just so grateful that I did, because 188 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 4: coming off of a deal like that, it's hard to 189 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 4: sign another deal. And like I said, it wasn't just. 190 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 3: The way I played. 191 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 4: It was my teammates, it was my coaches, it was 192 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 4: you guys, it was the fan base. I have to 193 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 4: give a huge shout out to the fan base. I 194 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 4: want to talk about unwavering love. I mean, man, they've 195 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 4: been so supportive, not only this year and last year, 196 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 4: but back to when I was even drafted in the 197 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 4: draft process. You know, these guys were pounding the table 198 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 4: for me. So it's a full circle moment. And I 199 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 4: was talking to Orlando Brown last night and he said 200 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 4: it's time to put on the. 201 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 3: Stripes again, and I couldn't agree more. Man, it's time 202 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 3: to do that. 203 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: Let's talk about how you played. Your overall Pro Football 204 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: Focus grade was the highest of your career. Does this 205 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: offense suit your skill set particularly well? Did Scott Peters 206 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: coaching help? What was it? Why did you play so well? 207 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 4: Before I answer this, make sure that this segment gets 208 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 4: to Scott Peters because this means a lot to me. 209 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 4: Scott Peters and Mike McCarthy believed in me from whenever 210 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 4: I came in, and they gave me an opportunity. And 211 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 4: that's them, that's pitch and that's Zach too. But the 212 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 4: way in which they coach. Scott Peters believes in what 213 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 4: he does, and what Scott Peters does is unconventional. Scott 214 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 4: Peters and what he teaches might ruffle feathers from some 215 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 4: people when it starts because it's unconventional and it's different. 216 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 4: But Scott Peters believes in what he teaches, and I 217 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 4: believe in Scott Peters and what he teaches so much. 218 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 4: I've told so many people since the season was over, 219 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 4: select stories of how this man will coach you, and 220 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 4: you see it directly payoff. 221 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: In the game. 222 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 4: Sometimes when you're in NFL, Dan, I've been doing this 223 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 4: my whole life. Sometimes you wonder how much more can 224 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 4: a coach coach me? This is my profession. This is 225 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 4: something I've been doing my whole life, Like, how much 226 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 4: more do I really need to know? I know how 227 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 4: to block a guy. Scott Peters has changed that. Scott 228 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 4: Peters is one of my will always be one of 229 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 4: my favorite coaches and my whole, my whole football career. 230 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 3: And that's wild. 231 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 4: I was only with the guys for five six months. 232 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 4: I love his story. I love what Scott Peters. 233 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 3: Is all about. The grind and the grit. 234 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 4: And getting out of the mud of his NFL story 235 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 4: and his life story has made him who he is today, 236 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 4: and it's made him believe in what he does. And 237 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 4: I think he changed me as a player, and I 238 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 4: think he changed my career path and the trajectory of 239 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 4: where I'm going in the NFL. I think that I 240 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 4: needed this growth. I needed someone to push me and 241 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 4: get me uncomfortable. I mean, I remember a story. I 242 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 4: gotta share it with you. I was playing the Minnesota Vikings. 243 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 4: This was Week three of the season. So I played 244 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 4: really good against Cleveland, didn't play good against Jacksonville. Here's 245 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 4: this guy continuing to coach me, continue to work me 246 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 4: throughout the week. 247 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: And I'm going against a guy Naed John Allen. 248 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 4: John Allen is one of the better defensive tackles in 249 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 4: my era, in my opinion, and he's got this amazing move. 250 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 4: He clubs and he gets underneath of you. And John 251 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 4: Allen doesn't detach, He just drives you. And you can 252 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 4: go look up clips today. 253 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 3: I recommend you do this. 254 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 4: You will see clip after clip of John Allen underneath 255 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 4: a guy hooked in with his arm, just driving him 256 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 4: into the quarterback. That's his move, that's his bread and butter. 257 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 4: And he does it to almost everybody in the league, 258 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 4: some of the best of guys. And Scott knows. Scott 259 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 4: goes most coaches right, Hey, die a slow death if 260 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 4: he's not getting a sack. You gotta just do what 261 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 4: you do, do the technique that I teach. Scott breaks 262 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 4: it down and says, no, I have select things that 263 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 4: we're gonna do for this guy, and we're not gonna 264 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 4: do it all week, but I'm gonna teach you a 265 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 4: move and this is how I think you can beat it. 266 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 4: And he gives you options, and I told him, I 267 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 4: think I like this option regardless, without putting all the 268 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 4: fluff into it. 269 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 3: I work it with Scott. I buy into it. 270 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 4: I try it during the Minnesota game. John tries to 271 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 4: get underneath of me, and I hop back, which is 272 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 4: the technique he taught me to do and pin my 273 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 4: elbows and I stonewall him right there. And I'm not 274 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 4: saying it because it makes me look good. I'm saying 275 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 4: it because that's an example of how I think he's 276 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 4: just a great coach and what he does. Really, I 277 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 4: see payoff on Sunday, and I think I'm so excited 278 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 4: to see him. 279 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 3: Go to work again for year eight in the NFL. 280 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 3: It's gonna be fun now. 281 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: John Allen knows the hot back. 282 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I know, I know John Allen knows 283 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 4: the hot backs coming. But I don't think we play 284 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 4: the Vikings this year, and I'd rather see. 285 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 3: Him do it to someone else me. 286 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: As you noted, Amarus Mims publicly campaigned for you to 287 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: come back. He said to me, he's the best right 288 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: guard in the NFL. He's seven years younger than you are. 289 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: But it seems like you two guys have really bonded. 290 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: Is that the case? And have you made an effort 291 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: to try to take him under your wing? 292 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, first of all, bold statement by my boy. 293 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 4: We all know it's probably not true, but what a 294 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 4: great what a great thing for him to. 295 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 3: Say about me. That really warms my heart. 296 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 4: He is going to be an All Pro tackle and 297 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 4: he's going to be a Pro Bowl tackle. I told 298 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 4: him that last night on the phone. I call him 299 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 4: baby boy, That's what I call him. And he has 300 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 4: so much natural and God given ability, paired with great 301 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 4: competitiveness and a will to get better and a desire 302 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 4: to be better. So I can't wait to see what 303 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 4: Amarus Mims continues to do in his career. And I 304 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 4: will do anything and everything for that man. I'll put 305 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 4: my own career on the line, my own job security 306 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 4: on the line, to make him look good. I mean 307 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 4: that I'm at the point in my career where I 308 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 4: want to see him succeed. 309 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 3: The opportunity for me. 310 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 4: For a four year deal and for some of those 311 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 4: things might be passed, and that's completely okay. I want 312 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 4: to see him succeed. He's such a good young man. 313 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 4: Like you said, he's so young. Mims is literally the 314 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 4: age of my youngest brother. I'm one of five boys, 315 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 4: and I hang out with my youngest brother. 316 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 3: I'm like, who WHA? I work next to somebody that's. 317 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 4: Your age, and I just love him so much that 318 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 4: I want to see him succeed more than me. And 319 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 4: that's a bold statement, but I really do mean it. 320 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 4: So I'm going to do everything I can this year 321 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 4: for him to have a successful year. 322 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: Dan Pitchers had some really nice things about you at 323 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: the end of the year and noted the fact that 324 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: you are usually the first guy to help a teammate 325 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: or a ball carrier get up, you know, at the 326 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: end of the play. Is that a conscious thing on 327 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: your part? Do you think that matters? 328 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 4: I think it matters a lot because of the makeup 329 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 4: of who I am as a football player. I've never 330 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 4: been the biggest, or fastest or strongest. You've sat next 331 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 4: to guys that are a lot bigger than me, You've 332 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 4: sent next guys that are stronger than me. And when 333 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 4: people watch tape, there's guys that are more talented than me. 334 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 4: And one thing I was taught at a young age, 335 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 4: but one thing that I take a lot of pride 336 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 4: in is not letting. 337 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 3: Anyone outwork me. 338 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 4: Like I can look back on a game and say, 339 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 4: hey you ran me over, or hey you swam me, 340 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 4: or whatever it may be. But I'm not gonna look 341 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 4: back at a game and say you worked harder than me. 342 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 3: If I lose a. 343 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 4: Rep because I'm not working hard enough, or my running 344 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 4: back is picking himself off the ground because I didn't 345 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 4: hustle downfield to pick them up, and that's shame on me, 346 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 4: in my opinion. I take so much pride, and when 347 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 4: I'm done with this career of mine, I want to 348 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 4: look back and say I left everything out there, and 349 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 4: I want my kids to watch my film someday and say, like, 350 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 4: why are you running downfield and why are you doing that? 351 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 4: You're wasting your energy. You got to play football well. 352 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 4: To me, that's more important than even the game itself. 353 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 4: I mean, I think that tells everybody about That tells 354 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 4: everything about somebody is what they're willing to do for 355 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 4: the people around them. 356 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 3: And I'm not perfect at it and I can always 357 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 3: do better. 358 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 4: But it was so cool that he noticed that, Like man, 359 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 4: it's I wrote it down on my phone because he 360 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 4: called me out in the mid of a meeting and 361 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 4: talked about how important it was. And I've never had 362 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 4: a coach do that, and I've done that my whole career, 363 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 4: So I don't know I'm not trying to get too deep, 364 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 4: but I. 365 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 3: Just feel seen here. 366 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 4: I've told everybody that this whole offseason, like I've never 367 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 4: felt seen like I have in this At the Cincinnati 368 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 4: Bengals in. 369 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: The second half of the season, the Bengals offensive line, 370 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: I think, was graded eighth best in pass blocking by 371 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus. I don't really get the sense that 372 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: the national media or the rest of the world has 373 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: caught on to the fact of how well the Bengals 374 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: offensive line played. Do you guys feel that do you 375 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: want the acclaim that, hey, Cincinnati's offensive line not only 376 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: isn't a problem anymore, it's good. 377 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 3: We'll we'll let our storytell itself. 378 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 4: You know, we're not gonna We're not gonna push the agenda. 379 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 4: No one wants to admit the agenda. The Eagles, all 380 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 4: these other offensive lines, they're the ones that are supposed 381 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 4: to be the best. No one wants to write the 382 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 4: story about the Bengals offensive line being really good because 383 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 4: no one believes it. That hasn't been the case. I'm 384 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 4: not gonna act like I've been here, but we all 385 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 4: know that. 386 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 3: Hasn't been the case. 387 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 4: So what we don't want to do and I don't 388 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 4: think I speak for everybody. What I'd imagine I do 389 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 4: is be open about it and push that agenda. 390 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 3: Why, because we have work to do. 391 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 4: We're not satisfied, So we're not going to go out 392 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 4: and push this agenda and make sure everyone knows just 393 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 4: because we're eighth, Because we want to be better than eighth. 394 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 4: I mean, we want to protect the best quarterback in 395 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 4: the league. We want to go win a Super Bowl. 396 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 4: We want to be the best offense in the league. 397 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 4: We want to get the ball to Jamar and t 398 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 4: So it's a couple of reasons. I don't think anyone 399 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 4: wants to write that story too. We don't want to 400 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 4: push it because we have room to grow and people 401 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 4: are gonna find out sooner or later. 402 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 3: The story I'll tell itself. 403 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: Speaking of the best quarterback in the league. Where's your fossil? 404 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 4: Where's my fossil? It's back in Florida. Actually it's not 405 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 4: back in Florida. We took it back to Florida safe 406 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 4: and securely from Cincinnati, and then we shipped it through 407 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 4: a moving company to Kansas. Because you're thinking Florida or Kansas. 408 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 4: Where does a huge bullhead with horns belong. I think 409 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 4: it belongs in Kansas. So I'm still trying to get 410 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 4: my wife to approve it getting mound on the wall 411 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 4: in the living room, but I don't know what she's 412 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 4: gonna say, so regardless, it'll be a that's one of 413 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 4: the coolest. 414 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 3: That's one of the coolest gifts. 415 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 4: I've gotten from anyone in the NFL and one of 416 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 4: my favorite. And I say that because it had so 417 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 4: much of Burrow written all over it. 418 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 3: He got us a gift that he would love. He 419 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 3: got us a gift that was cool to him. He 420 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 3: could write it. 421 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 4: Everyone knows Burrow could write a check for a golf cart. 422 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 3: Burrow can write a check for anything. You could just 423 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 3: write us individual checks. 424 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 4: But he took time to say, let me go and 425 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 4: dig deep into stuff that I actually enjoy and give 426 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 4: it to my teammates. And I'll forever look at it 427 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 4: and say, Man, that's Joe Burrow written all over it. 428 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 4: So I'm stoked about it. 429 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: You'll have a story forever. 430 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 3: Yep, you're dang right, a three million year old story. 431 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: Final thing for Dalton Reisner free agency league wide is 432 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: just around the corner. Did you leave some money for 433 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: the Bengals to add defensive players. 434 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 4: You're dang right, I did. Man, You're dang right I did. 435 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 4: I got to the point where I was like, let's 436 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 4: get this deal done. I don't need to ask for 437 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 4: the world. I think that I very easily could have 438 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,479 Speaker 4: went to free agency and seeing what other teams are 439 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 4: willing to pay me or pay me more than a 440 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 4: one year extension. But for me and I only share 441 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 4: that information because this is where I wanted to be 442 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 4: and I want to make sure that people know that. 443 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 3: And I'm a man of my word. 444 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 4: When I left, I said this is where I wanted 445 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 4: to be, and I wasn't kidding, so I could care 446 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 4: less if another NFL team wanted to get me on 447 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 4: a two or three year deal or maybe pay me 448 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 4: a little more cash per year. Cincinnati Bengals is the 449 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 4: team I wanted to be a part of, so I 450 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 4: think there'll be some big moves made and let's go. 451 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 3: Win some football games. 452 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: Man, Like your teammates, coaches and Bengals fans, I am 453 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: thrilled to have you back. Congratulations, thanks brother, I appreciate you. 454 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 3: Dan, God bless. 455 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: After our conversation, I told Dalton that when his playing 456 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: career is finished. He could have a very bright future 457 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: in broadcasting. He's articulate, interesting, entertaining, and honest. And later 458 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: to come on this podcast, you'll hear an encore presentation 459 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: of My fun Facts interview with Dalton from early last season, where, 460 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: among other things, you'll learn about his childhood and a 461 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: no stoplight one restaurant hometown, and how he earned pizza 462 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: as a kid by memorizing Bible versus but First, at 463 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: the NFL combine last week, I caught up with NFL 464 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 1: network analytics expert Cynthia Freeland to discuss what it's going 465 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: to take to get the Bengals back into Super Bowl contention. Cynthia, 466 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: in your first mock draft, you had the Bengals selecting 467 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: Ohio State safety Caleb Downs. He is probably the number 468 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: one player that Bengals fans would like to see wind 469 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: up in Cincinnati. Explain your process and how you wound 470 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: up with Caleb Downs and the Bengals. 471 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 5: I use the analytics process, which basically uses a lot 472 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 5: of numbers to so I don't blind myself to the 473 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 5: jersey right. 474 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 6: Ohio State. 475 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 5: It's a great school, great reputation, awesome, but Caleb Downs 476 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 5: is so special. 477 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 6: My stuff loves him for safety, for nicol, like you 478 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 6: name it. 479 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 5: He's just so multiple and versatile. So there's a little 480 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,959 Speaker 5: s next to his name. But I don't really know. 481 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 5: I mean nickibn Ware, I think is a good example 482 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,719 Speaker 5: of like I think you played like twelve snaps at 483 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 5: true safety last year for the Seahawks, and you saw 484 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 5: how effective he was ever round. So that kind of 485 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 5: profile added to where the Bengals are maybe having looking 486 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 5: to fill some holes, is how it paired them together. 487 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: The Bengals took Shamar Stewart in the first round last year, 488 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: a guy known more for his traits than his college production. 489 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: Keldric Falk from Auburn is a similar type of guy. 490 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: This year, some people are saying he would be a 491 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: possibility for Cincinnati at number ten. Where are you on 492 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: the traits versus production debate? From an analytical standpoint, what. 493 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 5: I've noticed in this year's draft, now that the transfer 494 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 5: portal is in full swing, everybody's production looks thinner, so 495 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 5: you don't see as many different situations or scenarios, or 496 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 5: perhaps the playbook. 497 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 6: Isn't as thick. 498 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 5: I'm not entirely sure how it's all happening like this, 499 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 5: But people moving school so often, you have to imagine 500 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 5: they're not able to fully learn a system. So you 501 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 5: have to go more on trade now than you ever 502 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 5: have before. However, I think it's like six to one, 503 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 5: half a dozen of another. I think it depends on 504 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 5: the position and all these interviews and all the thirty visits. 505 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 6: In your building. Let's go watch some film together. Let's 506 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 6: see if you. 507 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 5: Pick up all the different things that you're supposed to 508 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 5: be picking up. Can you learn our system and. 509 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 6: Can you execute it? That's where the magic of scouting 510 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 6: really comes in. 511 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: So we're here at the combine. Everybody's obviously talking about 512 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: the draft, but for the Bengals, the mission this offseason 513 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: is really to fix the defense. They know the offense 514 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: is fine, they need to get better on defense. So 515 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: there's a free agency component that's coming up soon. Should 516 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: a team sign a star or are you better off 517 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: using those dollars on several mid tier guys? For lack 518 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: of a. 519 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 5: Better word, Am I living in a world where a 520 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 5: Tree Hendrickson has gone? 521 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: Yes? 522 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 5: Yes, I'm living in a world where he's gone. Okay, 523 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 5: So I just I don't know where we are with that, 524 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 5: but I think you need to mix both. You need 525 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 5: the right people who are average that in your system 526 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 5: operate in above average ways. 527 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 6: But you do need a few anchor positions. I mean, 528 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 6: think about the team. 529 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 5: We were talking about Jamar Chase and how great you 530 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 5: do radio calls for Jamar Chase right and Joe Burrow obviously, 531 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 5: but if you don't have a few of those on 532 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 5: the defense, it's much harder to live, especially I don't know. 533 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 6: It's like, wouldn't you like to maybe sack Lamar Jackson? 534 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 4: I don't know. 535 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 6: It just seems like a good idea to me. 536 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 5: Seems like a smart idea. 537 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: Definitely a great idea when possible. We're visiting with Cynthia 538 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: Freeland from the NFL Network. The Bengals are mostly a 539 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: stick and pick team in the draft. They generally don't 540 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: do a ton of wheeling and dealing. Maybe a one 541 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: trade per draft. Should a team, as a general rule, 542 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: trade down to try to get as many picks as possible. 543 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 6: It depends on the construct of your team. 544 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 5: Now, I will say it probably from ten makes like 545 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 5: there's a weird like cliff that happens. So a lot 546 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 5: of people use a Jimmy Johnson trade chart to kind 547 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 5: of evaluate the equity of all right, I'll give you 548 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 5: my ten to trade down to seventeen, and this is 549 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 5: what those seven picks are worth. 550 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 6: And there's kind of a cliff that happens after ten. 551 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 5: So I will say you could exploit the fact that 552 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 5: you're in the top ten, maybe a little bit more 553 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 5: like you're picking eleven. It's a different trade component that 554 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 5: you get more for your You get more bang for 555 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 5: your buck at ten, right, So I guess it would 556 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 5: depend on what someone was offering. 557 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 6: Now I know we're in Indianapolis. 558 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 5: That deal that the Colts made for Sauce Gardner, that's 559 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 5: set a weird precedent because that's a lot of picks 560 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 5: and a player. 561 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 6: It's just a lot. 562 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 5: So perhaps the world is resetting, the market is resetting 563 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 5: for how many picks go for players in positions? 564 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 6: I'm not sure. But ten is a good spot. 565 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 5: So someone's gonna give you something crazy for it, then 566 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 5: it'd be hard to turn that down. However, you need 567 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 5: to know what crazy really is defined as for your team, I. 568 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: Don't get the sense that there's a likelihood that the 569 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: Bengals could pull off a trade for Max Crosby. But 570 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: if they did, it would probably involve giving up the 571 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: tenth pick. And you just talked about the value of 572 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: that selection. What do you think, I mean, would it 573 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: be worth giving up a pick that valuable for a 574 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,959 Speaker 1: guy that's going to be twenty nine at the beginning 575 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: of the season. Even as great as he is. 576 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 5: The thing that I really think about Max Crosby is 577 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 5: the ability to stop the run as well. You know, 578 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 5: since he's entered the league seven seasons no defensive end, 579 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 5: so someone who plays where he plays has been better 580 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 5: against the run. I understand he's paid to rush the passer, 581 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 5: but let's talk about being multiple. So I think he 582 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 5: is one of those very special players that is a 583 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 5: tone setter. He shifts a culture, He creates the opportunity 584 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 5: to be a different defense very fast. So I actually 585 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 5: think he might be because I'm looking at some of 586 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 5: these picks and who could be available at ten. There's 587 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 5: a lot of people who, at least right now, kind 588 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 5: of feel like Tweeners. 589 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 6: And I don't know how that. I'm not a defensive coordinator. 590 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 5: I don't get paid to do that, but I don't 591 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 5: know how that all fits together. Given the complexion of 592 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 5: what they're It's hard to know, and I don't meant 593 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 5: to offense. Hard to know what the Bengals defense was 594 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 5: trying to do last year, right, I'm unclear? Right, So 595 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 5: given that, I don't know what they're trying to do 596 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 5: this next year. So if you add pieces that are 597 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 5: tweeener pieces to you don't have the right vision for them, 598 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 5: then you're not really adding a top ten pick. You're 599 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 5: adding something you basically the production you could have gotten 600 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 5: in the twenties, and that would be a miss. Max Crosby, 601 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,479 Speaker 5: you know what you're getting, and apart from being from Michigan, 602 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 5: he's pretty awesome. 603 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: I want to go back to prior to last year 604 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 1: because you always do a column where you project the 605 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: ceiling for teams and the floor for teams, and for 606 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: the Bengals, prior to last year, you were like Noster 607 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: Damas because the ceiling was nine point nine, the floor 608 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: was six. It wound up being six, but your rationale 609 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,719 Speaker 1: for that floor was spot on because you did a 610 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: model for what a team looks like with Joe Burrow 611 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: at quarterback and what a team looks like with just 612 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: an average Joe at quarterback. 613 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, it turns out Joe Burrow's really good news flash. 614 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 6: Yeah no, But I think part of the difference is 615 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 6: my model did not like the Bengals defense. I don't 616 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 6: think I'm alone in that without Joe Burrows. 617 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 5: So if you kind of like we're, you know, like 618 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 5: the scales of justice right, like on one side, you're 619 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 5: weighing Joe Burrow's capabilities, and he can right a lot 620 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 5: of wrongs, but if he's not there, the wrongs compound 621 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 5: and it's really hard. Like there aren't thirty two men 622 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 5: who are qualified to play quarterback. There aren't ten guys 623 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 5: who are. 624 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 6: Great at quarterback. There's like four. We were trying to 625 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 6: name who are guys who you could start a franchise with? 626 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 5: And I'm sitting there and we're it was smartest people 627 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 5: in the league, and we named four. 628 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 6: Four. Obviously, of course Joe's one of the four. 629 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 5: But apart from that, it's you're like, well, in this system, nope, 630 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 5: So Joe's the big X factor. 631 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: So every year in the NFL, there's a team or 632 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: a few teams that go from being bad to being great. 633 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: Patriots won four games two years ago. They went to 634 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. The last time the Bengals went to 635 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. They won four games the year before, 636 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: So it always happens to somebody. The Bengals are hoping 637 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: to go from six wins to the Super Bowl next year. 638 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: What do they have to do. If you are in 639 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: charge of the Cincinnati Bengals, how do you get them 640 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: back to that level? 641 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 6: Well, you got Joe. Let's keep him playing and healthy. 642 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 6: That's number one. 643 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 5: I mean, he's one of my favorite players mentally because 644 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 5: I am from the state of Michigan and Matthew Stafford 645 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 5: was in Michigan for a long time and got clobbered 646 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 5: and his toughness was always a huge deal. 647 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 6: Joe Burrow is. 648 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 5: Like, he doesn't even flinch. It's pretty amazing. So keep 649 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 5: Joe healthy. And number two, got to like win the 650 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 5: games you're supposed to win, and a lot of that 651 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 5: will be incremental benefits on defense. Just get a little 652 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 5: bit better on defense. You have the offensive pieces in place. 653 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 5: Keep Joe Burrow healthy. Don't ask him to throw for 654 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 5: five thousand yards. I mean, okay, five thousand maybe don't 655 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 5: ask him to throw over six thousand yards? 656 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 6: How about that? About that? And then that will really 657 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 6: help things. 658 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: What do you get out of the combine, What do 659 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: you like to look at, who do you like to 660 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: talk to? What do you get from being an Indy 661 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: in Indy? 662 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 5: I'm trying to especially this year with ten new head coaches, 663 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 5: I'm trying to get a sense of what are people's 664 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 5: philosophies and not what are they like saying, but like 665 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 5: what are they doing? 666 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 6: Because everyone will tell you I'm this I come from 667 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 6: a McVeigh tree or a Shanahan tree. Everyone would like 668 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 6: to do that. Everyone would love to play with a 669 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 6: Joe Barrow, everyone would love to have Christian McCaffrey. We 670 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 6: get it, But what is your real strategy when the 671 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 6: rubber meets the road? Meaning do you have the vision 672 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 6: or not? 673 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 5: We were talking last night about you know, Sean Payton 674 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 5: made a big decision to get rid of Russell Wilson 675 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 5: with a massive contract still left on the table. He 676 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 5: and We're like, does he loved Bonix as much as 677 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 5: he says? And I'm like, I think he had to 678 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 5: convince himself he did because that was the structure of 679 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 5: offense he could get by with given this horrible cap 680 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 5: hit that he had to take away from. 681 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 6: I can win with this guy. I therefore I love him. 682 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 5: So what are your actual strategies and how are you 683 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 5: looking at this new crop of guys coming in and 684 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 5: seeing who fits those strategies in a way that makes 685 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 5: sense for your team. 686 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 6: So you know, no one cares about the measuring. No 687 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 6: one cares about that. It's fun. We love a good 688 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 6: fast run, like we've been doing. 689 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 5: You how many years have you been here? I mean 690 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 5: a lot of years, right, So it's fun when they 691 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 5: do crazy athletic feats. But ultimately, what you're looking at 692 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 5: is like, all right, so who's got a cohesive strategy 693 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 5: that makes sense and is going to stick with it 694 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 5: even if like someone they never thought would be able 695 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 5: to be achieved at such a high position was a 696 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 5: bit I don't know. 697 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 6: We'll see. We'll see. 698 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: Three of those ten new head coaches are in the 699 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: AFC North, So the Bengals are the only team that's 700 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: got their guy back. Do you think that's an advantage 701 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: in the short term? 702 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 5: I do actually think it's an advantage because it often 703 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 5: what you see, like people always like the season doesn't 704 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 5: start till October? What season doesn't Some people say till Thanksgiving? 705 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 5: But you have to win those initial games and there 706 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 5: will be a learning curve even for teams with. 707 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 6: A really great quarterback or whatever. 708 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 5: I'm very interested to see some of the strategic decisions 709 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 5: that are made. I mean, Jesse Minter does come from 710 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 5: a Ravens mold, so perhaps that goes a little bit faster, 711 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 5: But I certainly, I certainly think that. 712 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 6: You know, what do I feel about the Steelers? Confused? 713 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 6: I don't know what their defense is? 714 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 4: Like? 715 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 6: Is Aaron Rodgers coming back? For sure? 716 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 5: He's gonna make us wait until July? You know that, Like, 717 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 5: that's just for sure gonna happen. What's going on with 718 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 5: the Browns? Okay, let's just put them aside? Like, so 719 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 5: the question is is to me, can the Bengals beat 720 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 5: the Ravens? And if you get off to a good 721 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 5: start early, that's a good strategy, a good plan to 722 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 5: make that happen. 723 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: Cynthia, thank you for coming over to my little corner table. 724 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: It really appreciates you. Enjoy your work. Thanks so much. 725 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 6: I love the radio calls. It's my favorite thing to 726 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 6: listen to. 727 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,719 Speaker 5: So now I'm going to be like whenever whenever I 728 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 5: hear the Jamar Chase touchdown or whatever, whoever touched out, 729 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 5: I'm going to be like, Oh, he's the best. 730 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 6: Thank you for having me. 731 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to you by pay Corps, 732 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: Proud to be the Bengals Official HR software provider, by 733 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: Alta Fiber future proof Fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, 734 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: business and community to a new level, and by Kettering 735 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: Health the best care for the best fans. Kettering Health 736 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: is the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. Now has 737 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: promised one of my favorite fun facts interviews from last 738 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: season as we get to know the person under the pads. 739 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: Time for some fun facts with offensive lineman Dalton Reisner 740 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: from Wiggins, Colorado, a small town about an hour away 741 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: from Denver. I've read that you grew up on a farm. 742 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: Was that the case and do you fit the stereotype 743 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: of being country strong from working on the farm as 744 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: a game, I'd. 745 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 3: Say most definitely. 746 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 4: You know, I always have to say we didn't grow 747 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 4: up on a farm. We grew up on a ranch 748 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 4: because we have fifty head of cattle, pigs, horses, dogs, 749 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 4: the whole get out. And we had one hundred acres 750 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 4: right and I was bull riding. I was a bull 751 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 4: rider growing up, I barrel raced, I tried to rope 752 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 4: calves at one point. And I grew up working on farms, 753 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 4: So you know farms when it comes to to wheat 754 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 4: harvest and corn and millet and you name it out there, 755 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 4: you know, I worked for a bunch of farmers I worked. 756 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 4: I worked at a dairy farm growing up as well. 757 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 4: So whether it was building barbari fence, branding cattle, scoop 758 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 4: and poop at the dairy farm, or walk into wheat 759 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 4: fields for rye, That's what I. 760 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 3: Grew up doing. 761 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 4: So any type of physical strength I have, I'm gonna 762 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 4: have to attest it to that. 763 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: Just how small is Wiggins? 764 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 4: Wiggins is about When I was going to school there, 765 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 4: it was about eight to nine hundred people in the 766 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 4: whole town. I want to say it's about fifteen hundred 767 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 4: or more now I haven't looked it up. But when 768 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 4: I was going to school, there was one a football, 769 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 4: so it's a slow. It was the smallest classification of 770 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 4: eleven man football. There were seventeen guys on my football team. 771 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 4: So I was on kickoff, kick return, punt return, I 772 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 4: was linebacker on defense. You played every single way, so 773 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 4: up until college. I was like, oh, I don't have 774 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 4: to play one way. 775 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 3: This is wild. So you had to be in very 776 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 3: good shape. 777 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 4: Obviously the level of athleticism wasn't very good at the 778 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 4: one A level. But regardless, that's how small it was. 779 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 4: There's no stoplights, one restaurant, count two if you count 780 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 4: the chicken tenders at the gas station, which I love 781 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 4: the chicken tenders at the gas station, stubs, gas and 782 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 4: oil shout out. Other than that, there is a hardware store, 783 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 4: a school, and all the farmers and ranchers that live 784 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 4: in the town. 785 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 3: That's about it, man, that's the size of Wiggins. 786 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: Your dad was your coach in high school? Did he 787 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: treat you like everybody else? Or was he especially hard 788 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: on you? 789 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 4: To make a point, Oh, he gave me the special treatment. 790 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 4: And by special treatment, I don't mean he gave me anything. Man, 791 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 4: he was hard on me. This is back when coaches 792 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 4: could grab you by your face mask. 793 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 3: And get in your face. That's not really allowed nowadays. 794 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 4: But and my dad created the pee wee football program 795 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 4: in our small town. When we moved to Wiggins, there 796 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 4: was no pee wee football program, so he started a 797 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 4: pee wee football program. I'm one of five boys. So 798 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 4: I was the third boy in line, and we all 799 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 4: went through the Pew football program. When the two older 800 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,760 Speaker 4: boys got to junior high, he became the junior high coach. 801 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 4: He coached me through junior high and by the time 802 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 4: I was getting to eighth grade, he wanted to become 803 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 4: the high school football coach in Wiggins. You have to 804 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 4: be on the teaching staff to be a football coach. 805 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 4: My dad the guy he is, and this is why 806 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,399 Speaker 4: he is a full time job, right And he goes 807 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 4: and petitions and gets the whole town of eight hundred people. 808 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 4: I think he got six hundred signatures to take to 809 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 4: the school board to say that they wanted him to 810 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 4: be their head high school football coach. And he kind 811 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 4: of strong armed the school board and he became the 812 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 4: head football coach without happened to be at the school. 813 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 4: And yeah, coached all of us five boys through high school, 814 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 4: went to a state championship, had some success. 815 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: The voters spoke the voters. When it came time to 816 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,760 Speaker 1: pick a college, you chose Kansas State, about seven hours away. 817 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 4: Y k State, you know, Kansas State was one of 818 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 4: those teams I just felt like fit my mold it 819 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 4: was a blue collar program. It was run by Bill 820 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 4: Snyder at the time, and I felt like the staff 821 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 4: was more interested in molding me into a young man 822 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 4: and a follower of Jesus and just a good human being, 823 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 4: maybe as a father and as a son before a 824 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 4: football player. And not everything glitters it glows. But I 825 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,240 Speaker 4: really enjoyed my time at Kansas State. It was perfect 826 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 4: for me. I was a kid that needed time to grow, 827 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 4: so I red shirted and you know, seven hours up 828 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 4: the road from where I lived in Wiggans, Colorado, and 829 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 4: it just kind of it kind of fit the mold 830 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 4: for a kid coming from Wiggins, Colorado. 831 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: You had a great career Kansas State, and then after 832 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: that a dream came true in twenty nineteen in the 833 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,919 Speaker 1: NFL Draft, when you were selected by your childhood team, 834 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos in the second round. Describe that draft experience. 835 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 3: Oh, it was wild. I mean, I'm such a competitor. 836 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 4: I remember I was so ticked off that night because 837 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 4: I felt like I should be a first round draft pick. 838 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,240 Speaker 4: Looking back, I'm like, man, you should have been jumping 839 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 4: up and off the walls, which I was so excited. 840 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 4: John Elway called me when I was at Elway's in 841 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 4: downtown Denver and you know, was talking about getting a flight. 842 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 4: I said, brother, I'm already at Elways downtown. That's why 843 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 4: I'm celebrating. I just got to drive thirty minutes in 844 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 4: the morning and get the playbooks. So for me, I 845 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 4: grew up in a family that didn't have much. You know, 846 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,280 Speaker 4: there was a time where we were getting Christmas presents 847 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 4: dropped off on our doorstep. This is way when we 848 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 4: were young, young, young, And you know, I got to 849 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 4: go to maybe two or three Bronco games growing up, 850 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 4: but it was always what I wanted to do. I 851 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 4: mean I remember looking down at the Broncos just being like, 852 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 4: that would be sick if I could do that someday. 853 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,879 Speaker 4: And I was always kind of the kid that dreamed big. 854 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 4: So for me, when I got drafted to like actually 855 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 4: put on the helmet and be a part of the 856 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 4: program and do it for four years and run out 857 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 4: of the tunnel was absolutely surreal. 858 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 3: And that opportunity in two weeks to go back. 859 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 4: It won't be my first time, but it's gonna be 860 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 4: another cool opportunity to be back there. 861 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: How crazy was it to have John Elway as a boss. 862 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 3: Oh it was wild. I mean I grew up watching 863 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 3: the guy. 864 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's the jersey that you see growing up, right, 865 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 4: Everyone's talking about Elway, and that's what grandpa's talking about, 866 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 4: and that's who mom likes and all these different things. 867 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 4: And for John Ellie to be the guy that picked you, 868 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 4: it sure meant a lot. And I created a relationship 869 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 4: with him to where my time in Denver. You know, 870 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 4: I talked to him on the phone and we text, 871 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 4: and yeah, I had a lot of respect for I 872 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 4: have a lot of respect for him. 873 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: I read a story where you said the following, I 874 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: hope scouts watch my tape and say, Reisner must have 875 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: been ticked off. Do you become a different person on 876 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:24,760 Speaker 1: the field. 877 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 4: I tried to man, I don't know when that quotes from. 878 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 4: That's hilarious, But I've always tried to play with an 879 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 4: extra level of grit or work hards to me, But yeah, 880 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 4: you can't. You can't be mister nice guy when you're 881 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 4: in a football field. You're trying to put food on 882 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 4: the table and the plate for your family, and you're 883 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 4: trying to, you know, make a career out of the 884 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 4: job that you're doing and being in the league seven 885 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 4: years you understand, and being on the street two weeks 886 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 4: ago you understand how hard this job is and you 887 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 4: understand that it waits for nobody, and I don't care 888 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 4: who you are. So yeah, a level of change when 889 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 4: you cross those white lines is needed for a guy 890 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 4: like me. 891 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: Offensive line is interesting in that sense because it's obviously 892 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: very physical, but there's also a tremendous x's and o's 893 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 1: chess match going on at that position. Which part of 894 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: it do you like more? 895 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 4: The easier one for me is the chess match because 896 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 4: it's all between the ears, and that's something you can 897 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 4: prep for throughout the week, and the more you study it, 898 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 4: the more you dial in, the more you lock in. 899 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,399 Speaker 4: I feel like, the more that you can edge out 900 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 4: your opponent mentally. The physical side sometimes, in my opinion, 901 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 4: it's not a work hard standpoint. Sometimes you know, you 902 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 4: got the kid from Wigans, Colorado going against the five 903 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 4: star recruit from Gosh knows where, So I think the 904 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 4: physical thing, the physical side of things can be harder 905 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 4: at times, but that's also one that with a great, 906 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 4: great responsibility comes great reward because you get to go 907 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 4: against these great players and when you find yourself blocking 908 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 4: them up, it's a great feeling too. 909 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,720 Speaker 1: We're visiting the Dalton Reisner. After four years in Denver 910 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: in two years with Minnesota Vikings, you were a free 911 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: agent this past offseason and didn't sign until late August. 912 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: How did you stay ready? 913 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 3: Man? Great question. 914 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 4: I It's it's hard to talk about because, man, I 915 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 4: am so grateful for the way that I did approach things, 916 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 4: and so grateful for a wife that you know, supports 917 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,439 Speaker 4: me each and every day, even when sometimes the dream 918 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 4: seems a little bit far fetched, because you know, there 919 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 4: were I'm waking up at six am every day and 920 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 4: I'm going out to my garage and I'm putting the 921 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 4: garage door up, and I'm doing an hour lift, and 922 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 4: I'm putting my cleats on. I'm walking through the neighborhood 923 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 4: over to the local like that. It was where the 924 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 4: mail boxes are in our neighborhood and there's an area 925 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 4: between the mailboxes and the pickleball slash basketball court and 926 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 4: it's about twenty yard patch of grass that gets mowed 927 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 4: every two weeks, and sometimes the grass is up to 928 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 4: your past your ankles, and you know, I do fifteen 929 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,919 Speaker 4: to twenty sprints every morning and then I run through 930 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 4: inside zone, tight zone, pass block, right guard, left guard. 931 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 4: It's about a thirty to forty five minute deal and 932 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 4: it's muggy as hell. That's why I do it at 933 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 4: six am in Florida. But regardless, I had this whole 934 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:01,919 Speaker 4: order in which I did things, and it was from 935 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,760 Speaker 4: like six to ten in the morning, end with sauna, 936 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 4: end with cold tub. 937 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,800 Speaker 3: And it's cool to look. 938 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 4: Back on because if I didn't do that every day, 939 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 4: no one was watching, no one cared. Right, there were 940 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 4: times where who knows if I was going to get 941 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 4: picked up, or you didn't know your future, So there 942 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 4: were so many mornings where you question why am I 943 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,439 Speaker 4: doing this? You know, and is it really gonna matter? 944 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 4: I mean, we're in late August here, guys. I went 945 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 4: through a whole training camp, and you know, if I 946 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 4: didn't do that, there's no way in heck I. 947 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 3: Could have stepped in against the Browns. There's just no way. 948 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 4: And if I did didn't do it, I bet the 949 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,280 Speaker 4: Bengals would't have even trusted me too, because my workout 950 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 4: probably wuldn't have been good and I probably would never 951 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 4: have gotten signed or I would have been here and 952 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 4: they knew I would have been ready and they would 953 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 4: put someone else in. So just really grateful for a 954 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 4: wife that supported me through that and for just the 955 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 4: willpower to, you know. 956 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:44,959 Speaker 3: Do that when no one was looking. 957 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 1: So nobody was looking in terms of NFL teams, But 958 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: what about neighbors and passers by. Did they see this 959 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: gigantic human being doing past blocking drills against nobody? 960 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I remember, like a week before I came 961 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 4: out here, a guy walked by and he said, that 962 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 4: must be one hell of a fantasy football. 963 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 3: Team you're on. 964 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 4: And you know the human nature, and you set wants 965 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 4: to bark back and say, I'm a six year NFL vet. 966 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 3: You know I could be on multiple teams. 967 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 4: I'm in contract negotiation, but get into it right, and 968 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 4: you just kind of laugh. And every morning there's the 969 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 4: grandmas walking their dogs and they poop in the grass 970 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 4: that you're working out in and they just stare at you, 971 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 4: and you know they're going back and they're chattering about 972 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 4: what's that big, huge man doing in the grass, grunting 973 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,320 Speaker 4: and making all that noise. But when you love something 974 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 4: enough and you care about it enough, you'll find a way. 975 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 1: So after two padded practices with the Bengals. You suit 976 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: it up in the season opener, and two and a 977 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 1: half minutes into the second quarter, Lucas Patrick suffered a 978 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 1: calf injury, and you're in. You're gonna play the rest 979 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 1: of the game. Ted Carris called it a stunning display 980 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,760 Speaker 1: of football professionalism. This was your ninetieth NFL game, including 981 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Is it among the most memorable in light 982 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: of the circumstances. 983 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 3: Oh, it's one of the most memorable. For me. 984 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,840 Speaker 4: Two years ago, I signed late with the Minnesota Vikings, 985 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 4: and I think two weeks later I started Monday night 986 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 4: football against the forty nine ers. That was a absolutely 987 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,439 Speaker 4: surreal experience. So that's up there, number two, the first 988 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 4: start in Mile High Stadium, that's up there, and then 989 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 4: this one is the top three. 990 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 3: So those are all my top three. 991 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 4: I mean to be able to be with a different team, 992 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 4: different organization, guys that you barely know and step in 993 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 4: in a way of like that is truly an unreal feeling. 994 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 4: I talked to you guys earlier in the week, but 995 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 4: what Ted said meant a whole lot to me, not 996 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 4: only because the player he is, but the man he 997 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 4: is and I take it very seriously to step in 998 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 4: here and be. 999 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 3: A guy that guys can count on. 1000 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 4: So I know that I'm getting more time underneath my belt, 1001 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 4: more times working with the ones, So I got to 1002 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,359 Speaker 4: continue to elevate my game, which I will. But yeah, 1003 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 4: it was an unbelievable experience. Awesome words that Ted said 1004 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 4: something I'll never forget. A story I'll tell the kids 1005 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 4: and the grandkids, and I'll probably stretch it. 1006 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 1: So two days after that, you spoke to kids at 1007 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,959 Speaker 1: a local elementary school. Tell us a little bit about 1008 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: the Riisner Up Foundation and its mission. 1009 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I kind of told you a little 1010 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 4: bit about where I come from and the humble beginnings 1011 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 4: and the roots of where I'm from. So when it 1012 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,439 Speaker 4: comes to giving back to other people and the type 1013 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 4: of people we are off the field, that means more 1014 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,959 Speaker 4: to me. And I have no problem saying that means 1015 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 4: more to me. You don't care if you call me 1016 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 4: in five years and say I was one of the 1017 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 4: best guards to ever come. 1018 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 3: Through as a Cincinnati bank. I don't care. 1019 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter the awards, the trophies. I don't even 1020 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 4: remember what awards I got in college. Nor do you 1021 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 4: care if I ask you, right now, tell me every 1022 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 4: award I got in college. You wouldn't be able to 1023 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 4: do it because it doesn't matter to you. But when 1024 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 4: you go home and talk to your wife or your 1025 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 4: kids and they ask you about Dalton Reisner, You're probably 1026 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 4: gonna tell them about maybe the heart that I have. 1027 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,799 Speaker 4: And I hope that that's a good thing. And that's 1028 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 4: why I do those things. 1029 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 3: In the most genuine way. 1030 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 4: I mean, let's be honest. When you go do that 1031 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,839 Speaker 4: for kids, a lot of those kids want to They 1032 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 4: want to know Joe Burrow and how much money Joe 1033 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 4: Burrow makes. Those are the questions you get, right, But 1034 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 4: there might be one kid that's like, wow, like that 1035 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 4: NFL football player. I would have done anything for ANFL 1036 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 4: football player to show up to my school. 1037 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 3: I've done anything. 1038 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 4: So for me, it's like, man, if there's one kid 1039 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 4: that could have use this today, it matters for me. 1040 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,879 Speaker 4: And even if it didn't matter, even if the kids 1041 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 4: got nothing from it. And I give a whole speech, 1042 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 4: I signed autographs, I did the whole deal for me 1043 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 4: morally to say, hey, little Dalton, little kid that had 1044 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 4: a dream to be in the NFL. You know, just 1045 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 4: know that when you made it like you're a good 1046 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 4: dude and like you're still giving time to other people. 1047 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:20,720 Speaker 1: That's awesome. 1048 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate. 1049 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 1: Here come a few wild card topics. Now to wrap 1050 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: things up with Dalton Reisner. Is it true that you 1051 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 1: got free pizza from memorizing Bible Versus as a kid. 1052 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 3: That is very true. 1053 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,879 Speaker 4: One hundred percent tostinos pizza. So there were days where 1054 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 4: I'd get three or four tostinos. Miss Segura shout out 1055 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 4: Summit Baptist Church, Miss Segura, Wigans, Colorado. 1056 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 1: You said in an interview a few years ago that 1057 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,879 Speaker 1: you want to open a restaurant when you're playing days 1058 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 1: or finished. Is that still the case and what type 1059 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: of restaurant would it be. 1060 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 4: A great question. I love the research you did. You 1061 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 4: did a great job. No, definitely not anymore. I think 1062 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 4: starting a family is really important to me. Being a 1063 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 4: father is really important to me. I would love to 1064 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 4: speak at churches, men's group. I've already done sermons at 1065 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 4: Sunday churches, so I'd love to do that men's groups, 1066 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 4: youth groups, you name it, as well as pickleball. I'd 1067 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 4: love to do that competitively with my wife. But three 1068 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,280 Speaker 4: twenty doesn't go well with pickleball. 1069 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 1: So I have searched high and low for a picture 1070 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 1: of you with no beard unsuccessfully. When was the last 1071 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 1: time you were clean shaven? 1072 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 4: Since I grew the beard? I've never done a clean 1073 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,359 Speaker 4: shaven you know, as an offensive lineman. 1074 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 3: That scary stuff. Buddy. 1075 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 4: You know you look good, you know you're brave, you're 1076 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,800 Speaker 4: a fit dude. But when you weigh three undred twenty pounds, 1077 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 4: even though you're married, that's a risk you don't take. 1078 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: Was this college or high school when the beard? 1079 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 4: I think I started to finally grow it, like red 1080 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 4: shirt freshman year in college, and all the pictures you 1081 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 4: can see before that look pretty dang bad, so I'm 1082 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:44,399 Speaker 4: not going back to it. 1083 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 1: Roughly, how many tattoos do you have? 1084 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 6: Oo? 1085 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 4: I got about twenty Bible verses, so about maybe twenty 1086 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 4: three twenty four tattoos. I got a family tree in 1087 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 4: my right arm with you know, buddies that have died 1088 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 4: or you know, family members that are still alive or 1089 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 4: not alive, and then everything else is Bible versus some 1090 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,759 Speaker 4: stuff about my marriage. So yeah, probably it depends on 1091 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 4: how much you want to break it up. You know what, 1092 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 4: I mean, I have two full arm sleeves and I 1093 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 4: have a little bit on my legs, so regardless, it 1094 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 4: could be you could call it five big, huge pieces, 1095 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:14,440 Speaker 4: or you. 1096 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 3: Could call it one hundred. 1097 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:17,279 Speaker 1: Are there more to come? 1098 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,799 Speaker 4: I think I'm done. I want to do the neck, 1099 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 4: and my wife really shut things down. She said, we're 1100 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,959 Speaker 4: not going to the next So I said, okay, all right. 1101 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 4: You know, I was just gonna get something about Jesus. 1102 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 2: Man. 1103 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,359 Speaker 1: I love Jesus so anywhere, but the neck. Final question 1104 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: for Dalton Reisner, This one's a little bit deep. If 1105 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: you could meet anybody in history, living or deceased. 1106 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,759 Speaker 3: Jesus done deal, Jesus done deal. 1107 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 4: I know that's cliche, man, but maybe not cliche, but 1108 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 4: maybe corny. 1109 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 3: But for me, it's Jesus. 1110 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 4: I mean, dear gosh, and I am going to be 1111 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 4: able to meet him, but I don't want to. 1112 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,359 Speaker 3: I don't. It'd be cool not to have to meet him, 1113 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:49,720 Speaker 3: because then I know I'm dead. 1114 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 4: So it would be really cool if you're telling me 1115 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 4: one person right now, just dead or living, that I 1116 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 4: could have and I could chat with Are you kidding me? 1117 00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:56,879 Speaker 3: Bro? 1118 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 4: I would ask him so many questions and. 1119 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 3: He'd be sick of me? 1120 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 4: Like, how about that one? 1121 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 1: Prayer? 1122 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 3: Man? Did you not listen? You don't want it to happen? 1123 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,840 Speaker 3: Or what the game this weekend? Who's gonna win? Jesus? 1124 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 3: Am I gonna play? 1125 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 6: Well? 1126 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 3: Could you really just have me lock up this guy? Please? 1127 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 4: So no, I'd ask him much more deep questions than that. 1128 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 4: But it'd be cool to meet Jesus. 1129 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,240 Speaker 1: I think I'd like to witness that conversation. 1130 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 3: It'd be cool, man, It'd be a fun one. It'd 1131 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 3: be a fun one. 1132 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 1: This has been a fun one too. Appreciate your time. 1133 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, man, really appreciate you. 1134 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,720 Speaker 1: God bless that's going to do it for this episode 1135 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 1: of the Bengals Booth podcast, brought to you by pay Core, 1136 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,319 Speaker 1: Proud to be the Bengals official hr software provider, by 1137 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 1: Alta Fiber, future proof Fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, 1138 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: business and community to a new level, and by Kettering 1139 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,840 Speaker 1: Health the best care for the best fans. Kettering Health 1140 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 1: is the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. 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