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Speaker 1: with Jason McIntyre. What is up? Straight Fire? Fam? It's

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Speaker 1: me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Thursday, September fourteenth. It's

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Speaker 1: nearly that time, Folks. Week two almost upon us as

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Speaker 1: a special guest. We decided, you know, we like gambling

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Speaker 1: in these these waters. We decided to bring on Eric Richter,

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Speaker 1: New York Post. He was on last year. He's a

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Speaker 1: Giants fan. We's let that slide. It's okay, It's okay.

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Speaker 1: Although as a hint, I do like the Giants. This week,

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Speaker 1: I've already bet them. We'll talk about that shortly, so

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Speaker 1: we'll bring on Eric to talk about it. We'll briefly

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Speaker 1: I felt good about money line Lions for last Thursday.

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Speaker 1: it from seven and a half to six and a half. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: to the Eagles. They have just been decimated this week.

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Speaker 1: At linebacker. You've got na Kobe Dean, the kid from

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Speaker 1: mean a good game for Alex Madison, nice running back

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Speaker 1: Going up against Justin Jefferson. And if you saw last week,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Addison is emerging, emerging enough that I grabbed him

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Speaker 1: in fantasy. So there's a world where Kirk Cousin has

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Speaker 1: Jalen Carter had a really, really good game in his

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Speaker 1: NFL debut against the Patriots. One hundred and twenty seven

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Speaker 1: and listen. Already several bets I like some favorites. This

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Speaker 1: today's guest, Eric Richter of the New York Post. You

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Speaker 1: know how guy Jason likes to think he knows everything

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Speaker 1: when it comes to sports. I know what sports dance wants,

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Speaker 2: Everything he doesn't, he knows a guy who does. Let's

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Speaker 2: just say I know.

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Speaker 1: A guy who knows the guy who knows. Another big,

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Speaker 1: on AMP and we have a guest, Eric Richter from

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Speaker 1: the New York Post to talk NFL Week two. I

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Speaker 1: should preface this by saying he's been on the podcast before.

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Speaker 1: He is a big UFC guy, but he is now

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Speaker 1: writing a column on NFL picks for the New York Post. Eric,

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Speaker 1: I'm very curious how do a week one go for you?

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Speaker 3: Let's see Giants plus three and a half, So you know, basically,

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Speaker 3: Giants plus three and a half is probably the worst

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Speaker 1: I'm sure the forgiving New York audience was so kind

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Speaker 1: I kind of attack it this way. What is everybody

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants might be on your bingo card again.

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Speaker 2: Giants are definitely gonna be on my bingo card.

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Speaker 3: I think that what we're really overreacting to more than anything,

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of with you. And the gambling stuff is

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Speaker 1: sure if we say Bengals we like them, everybody's gonna

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the Giants there in Arizona. Arizona one

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Speaker 2: Well, six is my number. You know that's a key number.

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Speaker 3: Some Just to point piggyback off of how bad Sam

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Speaker 3: Graded out very well by the Commanders, according to Pro

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Speaker 3: last week. The Cardinals didn't weren't even getting credit for

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Speaker 3: The Giants ran play action third most in the NFL

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Speaker 1: You know that.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think that the Giants are gonna really

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals' death. You know, the Cardinals do have a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how how often you listen to

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that was because again, and the Eagles

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Speaker 3: You know, the scheme the you could definitely scheme some

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Speaker 2: They got shut out by the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know I'm with you Giants, obviously on the side,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was interested at nine and a half. I

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Speaker 2: We were jumping on here. Brandon Cooks didn't practice today

428
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Speaker 2: and it sounded like he might not play at all.

429
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Speaker 2: So I believe it was a hamstring injury.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, maybe there's some line movement because

431
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Speaker 3: of Brandon Cooks. I'm not too sure. But for me,

432
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Speaker 3: you know what's crazy. And I know that Rhodes said

433
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Speaker 3: this to you on the podcast yesterday. He thought Zach

434
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Speaker 3: Wilson played well, you know, I can kind of see

435
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 3: where he's coming from there. I know that sounds crazy.

436
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 3: I was like, man, he might be the only person

437
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 3: on planet Earth to agree that Zach Wilson didn't do terribly.

438
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,360
Speaker 3: Bill's defense, It's not bad. That Garret Wilson pass wasn't good.

439
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,479
Speaker 3: You were right, it wasn't. That was not a good

440
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 3: pass for the touchdown. But you know, I think if

441
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Speaker 3: they let him loose and trust him a little bit,

442
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Speaker 3: Like I'm third and that third and twelve play near

443
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 3: the end of regulation, they ran it up the middle

444
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Speaker 3: with cook and I think he got like six yards.

445
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Speaker 3: Then they kicked the field goal to take the lead.

446
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Speaker 2: For me, I would have thrown it there on third

447
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Speaker 2: and twelve.

448
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Speaker 3: I know that sounds crazy, but yeah, I know, I know.

449
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 3: I think that Zach Wilson needs a little bit of trust.

450
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 3: I think that you do some quick plays, Garrett Wilson,

451
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 3: a lot of screens. Do the two running back set.

452
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,360
Speaker 3: They were doing that a lot out of out of shotgun.

453
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 3: They were doing the two running backs with Cook Breeze,

454
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Speaker 3: Breese Hall and you know, then you have the receivers.

455
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Speaker 2: I want to see more of that where like you can.

456
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Speaker 3: Kind of get the motion going, uh and then you know,

457
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Speaker 3: hit hit Wilson on a slant, you know, things like that.

458
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 3: I thought Wilson looked all right given the circumstances. It

459
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Speaker 3: wasn't expecting to play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know that crazy.

461
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Speaker 1: So I'll ask Eric, so you want to give Wilson

462
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Speaker 1: some rope? So do you? I don't. You can't do

463
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Speaker 1: it with the lead, right, Sala knows and listen, fair

464
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 1: or unfair? Rogers was going to save his job in

465
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Speaker 1: the GM's job. Right, So what happens if they win

466
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: six games with Zack Wilson, Like, does Sala get another

467
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: chance next year? I don't know. So if he's thinking

468
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 1: about his job, yo, we're going straight to conservative here.

469
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 1: You know we're gonna hand it off Breese Hall, Brees's lightning.

470
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 1: Let's just not make mistakes. You remember your young guy Eric,

471
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 1: but Mark Sanchez game managed the Jets to a couple

472
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Speaker 1: AFC title games. Hey, we've got a great defense in

473
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: a growing strong run game. Let's not screw it up.

474
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: Can you say that to Zach Wilson or because he

475
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: looks like he has some YOLO in him, Like every

476
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: third possession, he's like just scrambling for his let me

477
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: just chuck it up and.

478
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Speaker 3: Yeah, if he if he can just I know it

479
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 3: sounds like if you could just avoid that, but you know,

480
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 3: you know, anything happens. You know, if you just avoid,

481
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 3: it's almost like he like starts scrambling. It thinks he's

482
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 3: at BYU again. He just starts throwing it up. It's

483
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Speaker 3: like he's like, oh b yu, He's like, I remember

484
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 3: I used to do this and then just chuck it

485
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Speaker 3: for me. I would say, you know, I'd like to

486
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Speaker 3: see Zach Wilson get some rope. You know, even RG

487
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 3: three said it yesterday on Get Up. You know the

488
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 3: Jets their future is tied to Zach Wilson. No matter what,

489
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Speaker 3: this year, there's no quarterback that's gonna come in there

490
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Speaker 3: and save them.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be the Zach Wilson.

492
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Speaker 3: So Zach Wilson's either gonna play really well this year

493
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Speaker 3: and maybe even slidify himself as the quarterback of two

494
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Speaker 3: years from now, or he's gonna play way out.

495
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Speaker 2: Of the league. That's it.

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Speaker 1: That's nicy.

497
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Speaker 2: He's either out of the league.

498
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Speaker 3: He's either out of league or he is the quarterback

499
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Speaker 3: for the future in two years from now.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's any there's no.

501
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of I would largely agree because if

502
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: he screws up like this is his last chance, I

503
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 1: want to go to another game. This is this is

504
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Speaker 1: uh one that I bet at three and I just

505
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: looked at It's not three anymore. The Chicago Bears going

506
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Speaker 1: to Tampa. They were getting through. This was pick them

507
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Speaker 1: on the look ahead a week ago. It's now was

508
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Speaker 1: it three? It has since come off to two and

509
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: a half. No, listen, I know nobody's gonna say this.

510
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: Everybody's overreacting all the same O Bears. They stink eber

511
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 1: Flush is gone, blah blah blah. I kind of liked

512
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Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears in this spot going to Tampa. Eric,

513
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 1: what was it three weeks ago that the world was saying, oh,

514
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: Tampa could be a fire sale come trade deadline Tampa,

515
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams like Todd Bowless put your house up for

516
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: sale like it was. The vibes were strange in Tampa. Now,

517
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 1: I did have them last week in the contest, but

518
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Speaker 1: I don't love them going forward.

519
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 3: No, definitely don't love them going forward, especially with Baker Mayfion.

520
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 3: They were going to trade Mike Evans like yesterday, you know,

521
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 3: I was already buying my Mike Evans Giants Jersey. I

522
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 3: was ready to go. So I hear what you're saying

523
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 3: on the Bears plus three. Actually, you know everybody had

524
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Speaker 3: a Justin Field's MVP ticket.

525
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: Oh you know what I mean. No, I'm not even kidding.

526
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 2: He was the most bet MVP guy.

527
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Speaker 3: He is the most bet MVP guy who's eighty to

528
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Speaker 3: one all the way down to thirty to one during

529
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Speaker 3: the off season.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, I'm more Wait a minute.

531
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Speaker 2: Well think about it. Yeah, in like a week, yeah,

532
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 2: in like a week. But like, think about it.

533
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Speaker 3: He can run and he has an arm, so like,

534
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 3: the thought process was, if he can, if they can

535
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Speaker 3: really expand the passing game, the running, the running stats

536
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 3: will still be there. So that was the thought process

537
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Speaker 3: from the betting side, and it was before they even

538
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 3: got DJ moore. My, that's my major concern is that

539
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 3: they are not even really getting DJ more involved. I'm

540
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 3: not a big Darnell MOONI fan the running back situation.

541
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Speaker 3: They have Roshan Johnson, who is that ground pick this

542
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 3: past year. I don't even know where he went to college,

543
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 3: but he's got the size. He's six foot two twenty.

544
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 3: He runs a four to four, so he's got the size.

545
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 3: He's got the bell cow size. That like kind of

546
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 3: makes sense, you know. I got a Cloil Herbert Shares

547
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 3: in fantasy. For me, Buccaneers are probably the side once

548
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 3: once that field.

549
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 2: Goal goes away.

550
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Speaker 3: I'd probably lean Tampa Bay just because I thought that

551
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 3: the Bears defense looked so bad.

552
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Speaker 2: I can't get on the Bears band higging with you.

553
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 2: I'd love to.

554
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 3: And my old co worker Jeremy Layton, big Bears guy.

555
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 3: He he's on the full telling the owner to sell

556
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 3: the team. He's starting to petition the whole thing.

557
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's.

558
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Bowles loves to blitz, and last week Kirk

559
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 1: Cousins shredded them up and down the field. He put

560
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: up big stats. The problem is Kirk made some dumb

561
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins mistakes. My guess is instead of Justin Field's

562
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: forcing crap this week, he will just say, you know what.

563
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: I know you guys want me to win from the pocket,

564
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: but when I'm under dress, I'm talking and running, and

565
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: I just I think that Green Bay defense has like

566
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: seven first round picks. I think they're way better than

567
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: the Tampa defense. I don't know. I mean, I would

568
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: agree with you. The Tampa cornerbacks are pretty good. But

569
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: something wants to me. You know, I think I'm gonna

570
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: hope ride with the Bears, but you did give me

571
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: something to think about going against them. Not a sexy matchup,

572
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: but you know, fascinating to me. One of these two

573
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 1: teams is going to start to and oh, the Falcons

574
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: or the Packers. Do you have any read on this side?

575
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: This was I think Falcons by one, and now it's

576
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: Packers by one and a half. So a swing through zero,

577
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: not a huge swing, but a swing.

578
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 3: Nonetheless, injuries are going to tell the story for this one.

579
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 3: Aaron Jones is in practicing, Christian Watson's not practicing, Romo

580
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 3: Dobbs is in practicing. So pretty much all of the

581
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 3: major weapons in Green Bay are aren't playing right now,

582
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 3: aren't practicing. So if they were to play all in

583
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 3: Green Bay, I would bet at to three right. And

584
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 3: the reason that I would say that is a has

585
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Speaker 3: been ready to look awful if he gets behind it.

586
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 3: Then when the Falcons get behind in a negative game

587
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 3: script they are going they're gonna get blown out a lot.

588
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 3: The blownout potential in Atlanta is massive. Same thing with

589
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 3: the Giants. To be honest, it's kind of like the

590
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 3: the same problem. When you're playing ahead. You can do

591
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 3: the play action, you can run the ball, you can

592
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 3: do the RPO stuff. But once that lead goes away

593
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 3: and you're down by two scores, you have to start

594
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 3: airing and out and the quarterbacks can't do it. That's

595
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 3: the big problem. So when for me I look at it,

596
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 3: it's a dome game. So the Packers don't even really

597
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 3: have to deal with weather. You know, I think Jordan

598
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 3: Love looked amazing last week even without Christian Watson. Once

599
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 3: he comes back, I'm interested the offensive line. You got

600
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 3: still got Batari there. Yeah, I would say, you know, Packers.

601
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 3: I mean I believe that Love was one of the

602
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 3: highest ranked passers in the NFL on Pro Football Focus.

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00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: No one saw that coming, so.

604
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely did not. I don't know what to make.

605
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: It feels like a bit of an overreaction. But this

606
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones thing now has to be freaked out because

607
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: I loved him in Fantasy. We have I think me

608
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: and my son, you know, we have him on like

609
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: three or four teams, and he starts going bonkers on

610
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: the screen passes and we're freaking out, you know, winning

611
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: fantasy games. We went five to zero. Nobody cares, but

612
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: no Jones is huge, like losing that element. I mean,

613
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: I don't think Dylan's as deadly in the screen game,

614
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: is he?

615
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: No? Not really. He's really good at the goal line.

616
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: He's more just a pure runner.

617
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 3: He kind of like reminds me of Josh Jacobs, but

618
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 3: maybe like a poor version of Josh Jacobs. Yeah, I

619
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 3: would say, you're looking if you're This is a wait

620
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Speaker 3: till Friday. This is to the all the straight fire listeners.

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00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 3: This is a wait till Friday. See the injury report

622
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 3: and then even maybe throw a packer beat writer on

623
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 3: tweet notifications because that's what I do, and wait for

624
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 3: the injury report because once that injury report comes out,

625
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 3: that line is going to move immediately.

626
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's do a couple more games here.

627
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this one. I don't think anyone is

628
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: gonna like it. It's maybe the coaching mismatch of the week.

629
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: Mike Rabel at home against Brandon Staley and the Chargers.

630
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: Chargers were I think three and a half on the

631
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: It's now down to three and it looks like we

632
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: could be headed for two and a half. I listen.

633
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: I think people are overreacting to the Chargers defense, like

634
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: Tua tyreekan company are gonna shred all season. Okay, it's

635
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: nothing embarrassing that you got destroyed by Tua. We'll see.

636
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Speaker 1: I mean, he looked incredible. Here's what I don't understand.

637
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: Tennessee looked awful. I mean, Ryan Tannehill was arguably the worst. Well,

638
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: I can't say the worst. Daniel Jones was horrible, but

639
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: Tannehill had three bad picks. The offense is stuck in

640
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: the mud. I don't see any I don't see what

641
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: people are on with Tennessee here. I know Eckler could

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Speaker 1: be a situation and maybe missed the game. I hope

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Speaker 1: you got Josh Kelly and fantasy. But I like the

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Speaker 1: Chargers here to go on the road. If you look

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Speaker 1: Eric historically, they've been good on the road.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, charge Chargers. So here's my thing with the with

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Speaker 3: the Chargers, that is the run defense. The run defense

648
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Speaker 3: is still terrible, and Derek Henry is still there. So

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Speaker 3: that's what that's what you're seeing here is people are

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Speaker 3: expecting Derrick Henry three touchdowns, two hundred yards rushing Chargers,

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Speaker 3: some late penalties, some late turnovers, things like that, kind

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Speaker 3: of screwing them if you will. You know, I'm just

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Speaker 3: so done with the My thing with Justin Herbert and

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Speaker 3: I had a Justin Herbert MVP ticket last year. My

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Speaker 3: thing with Justin Herbert is that he how many times

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Speaker 3: have we seen him come up small in game winning

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Speaker 3: opportunities where you have, you know, a minute and a

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Speaker 3: half left, two timeouts, Go get a field goal to win,

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Speaker 3: Go get a field goal to tie, and then sack

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Speaker 3: fumble penalty and now all of a sudden, it's third

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Speaker 3: and twenty and you have to either punt or your

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Speaker 3: or a fourth and twenty and it's turnover on downs.

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Speaker 3: It happens way too much of the Chargers. So I

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Speaker 3: just don't trust the Chargers late in the game. I'd

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Speaker 3: look to jump maybe on on an under, I believe.

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Speaker 3: Let me see what the number is right now, I

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Speaker 3: would look for Yeah, I'd look for an under there

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Speaker 3: for that game. For yeah, it's forty five even actually,

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Speaker 3: so i'd look for an under there. Unders were crushing

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Speaker 3: last week. I don't know if you saw, I.

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Speaker 1: Think twelve and four or something like twelve and.

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Speaker 3: Four, eleven and thirty something like that. Unders are crushing

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Speaker 3: Week one, a big and you know it's funny. I

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Speaker 3: was listening to a podcast, one of the FTN podcasts,

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Speaker 3: and a reason that they said that the Unders were

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Speaker 3: hitting at such a high rate is that the sack

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Speaker 3: rates were so high. Across the league. Offensive line play

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Speaker 3: was really really bad on Sunday. Quarterback play, offensive line

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Speaker 3: play all kind of combined together. So you know, I

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Speaker 3: would kind of look at some of the Unders in

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Speaker 3: this one and across the league really, you know, especially

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Speaker 3: for the Thursday night game. You know, you look at

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Speaker 3: it under there too.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to Thursday in a second. The one thing

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Speaker 1: about the Chargers, so this Tennessee defense get very ballyhooed, right.

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Speaker 1: Everybody loves Simmons and Varabel's a great coach. Cars moved

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Speaker 1: the ball up and down the field with like garbage weapons.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Rashid Shaheed whoever that is, had a monster game,

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Speaker 1: and it was like they were getting kind of I

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Speaker 1: think Car at three hundred yards passing, and I thought

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Speaker 1: they moved the ball well just ineptitude when it mattered,

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Speaker 1: and Car kept getting sacked. I like Chargers offensive line

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Speaker 1: better than the Saints. I like the weapons better. Although

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Speaker 1: Mike Williams is concussed already, I I guess I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: have to give it more thought. But I thought I

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Speaker 1: would definitely have a Chargers ticket in my pocket and

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Speaker 1: I'd be on them. What's that?

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Speaker 2: Sounds like Eckler is not gonna play.

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Speaker 3: So that's a tough one because he was really really

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Speaker 3: involved in their game plan, like big time.

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Speaker 2: He got like twenty carries in the first three quarters.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Eckler a machine. And then of course he

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Speaker 1: kind of took some jabs at the coach this week fun.

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Speaker 1: All right, last one before Thursday and at football, let's

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Speaker 1: go Dolphins Patriots. Will Bill Belichick start zero and two?

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing Dolphins favored by three, and Miami, I think

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Speaker 1: universally looked like the best offense in the league. Two

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Speaker 1: has never lost to Belichick. You know, Tyreek Hill, who

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Speaker 1: just shredded J C. Jackson, looks like he's gonna maybe

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Speaker 1: line up against Christian Gonzalez, the rookie who played well,

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Speaker 1: but he's a rookie, Andreek is Tyreek. It isn't indoors,

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Speaker 1: it's outdoors. Although that doesn't see there's gonna be weather.

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Speaker 1: Are you back Intua here again or no?

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Speaker 3: At three? That's a tough one. I would say it

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Speaker 3: really comes down to the defense. Uh for New England.

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Speaker 3: This is an underspot for me for sure, Like this

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Speaker 3: is one of the many unders of the of the day.

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Speaker 3: This is probably one that I target the most. Everybody's

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Speaker 3: so in on the Miami, on the Miami defense, on

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Speaker 3: the Miami offense. Excuse me, I actually really liked the

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Speaker 3: Patriots defense. They looked amazing against the Eagles. Eagles are

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Speaker 3: high flying, you know, the the volume of which that

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Speaker 3: the Eagles usually look to throw. You know, I think

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Speaker 3: that the Patriots did a really good job. The time

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Speaker 3: to throw stat that the Patriots had, it's eluding me

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Speaker 3: right now, is like it was like under two point

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Speaker 3: four seconds per throw was the lowest in the league.

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Speaker 3: Time to throw for for hurts before we started scrambling.

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Speaker 3: So I think that the Patriots defense is the key,

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Speaker 3: and I think I'm gonna I would go under there

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Speaker 3: really interesting.

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to think, like what advantage does New

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Speaker 1: England have, Like, I know they have some dudes on defense.

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Speaker 1: Jude On is very good, but Miami's got some names

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Speaker 1: defensively as well. I know they were torched in the

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Speaker 1: run game, and I'm assuming this is going to be

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Speaker 1: a Romandre Stevenson twenty five carry kind of game. Maybe

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Speaker 1: Zeke's getting ten carries, but you know, this throwing thing,

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Speaker 1: like they're down sixteen to nothing and Mac has got

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Speaker 1: to start chucking and duck and I think he attempted

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Speaker 1: fifty four passes. Like that's not a winning formula for

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Speaker 1: the Patriots. I think you're onto something with this under

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Speaker 1: a lot of running overall, Do you like the Patriots

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Speaker 1: this year or not? Really?

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Speaker 3: They're like the good, bad team, if that makes sense,

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Speaker 3: Like they're good, but they're probably gonna come up short

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Speaker 3: in a lot of games. That's why I'm kind of

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Speaker 3: avoiding the plus three there, because I think that it's

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Speaker 3: really gonna come down to the last possession or two

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Speaker 3: where it could be a touchdown late, it could be

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Speaker 3: a field goal that puts it to.

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Speaker 2: Six, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: So you know, I think that they're gonna be competitive

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Speaker 3: with everybody, and I think that they're gonna win a

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Speaker 3: lot of close games. They're gonna lose a lot of

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Speaker 3: close games that look like an eight to nine team

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Speaker 3: if I were, if I were to guess really, because

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't believe in the quarterback play at all.

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Speaker 2: I also don't think they should have liked o Jacoby Myers.

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Speaker 2: I love Jacoby Myers, and Jujusmuthschuster didn't look very good either,

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Speaker 2: So uh yeah, I'm gonna I'm I.

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Speaker 3: Would target them at a bigger number. I was hoping

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Speaker 3: if they were like if they were on the road,

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Speaker 3: I would actually target them.

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Speaker 2: I'd I'm more likely to target them because I get

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Speaker 2: maybe i'd get six, because I would like to.

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Speaker 1: Eric Richter, New York Post great stuff, good luck with

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Speaker 1: the column, and uh you know I would say good

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Speaker 1: luck to your giants, but only this week as I'm

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Speaker 1: a Jets fan.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you J Mack.

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Speaker 1: Thanks buddy,