1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: The tennis season has started, yes, and so much. 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 2: We so happy about it. I'm not ready really know why. 3 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like it's too soon. I 4 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 2: haven't gotten my head around what happened last year. 5 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 3: I feel like we're just barreling forward and do a 6 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 3: new season without me being comfortable with the next. 7 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel if everyone needs more of 8 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: a time off than this. 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 4: Well, it's funny because I and hello, welcome everybody to 10 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 4: the podcast. 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: By the way, I have to. 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 4: It's funny because I read a tweet from Tommy Paul 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 4: yesterday that said the season said I don't know ver beata, 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 4: but it was basically him saying, the season is so long, 15 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 4: but I'm so ready to start again, because you know, 16 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 4: tennis players don't like to be idle too long. 17 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 2: They're ready to go. Yeah. 18 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 3: It's like rest versus rest. You don't want to be 19 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 3: too yeah and rusty. 20 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: They love playing tennis. 21 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: Sure. I mean, look at Veena, she's just given another 22 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: wildcot at the Ustralia. 23 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 4: I've been and going to New Zealand at forty one 24 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 4: years of age forty two. 25 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 2: She's forty two years. Yeah, she's just unbelievable. 26 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 4: That she wants to keep playing and enjoy it, and 27 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 4: anyone who gives her shit about taking a waldcard, or 28 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 4: it gives any tournament shit for her taking a waldcard, 29 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 4: you need to really consider never following tennis. 30 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 3: Ever, I was really turned on to that line of 31 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: thinking by the guys at the Body Serf who basically said, 32 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: there's nobody but the player. 33 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: Who can make a decision about. 34 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 3: When they retire and whatever terms that they want to 35 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 3: retire on ye after winning their last match, after winning 36 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 3: a big title, like somebody like Ash Barty, after tumbling 37 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 3: down the rankings and barely making it on the challenge 38 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 3: or tour, it doesn't matter. 39 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: It's not up to us, it's up to them. 40 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 3: And ever since then I was like, you know what, 41 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 3: Venus Williams, as long as she gets wildcards and likes 42 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 3: showing up, traveling with her dog, doing the whole thing, 43 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 3: she can do whatever she wants. 44 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 4: And some people will like, in particular in Australia, they're like, oh, 45 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 4: wouldn't it be great? You know, you should be giving 46 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 4: it to a young Aussie or a young player that's 47 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 4: trying to make I said, do you know how many 48 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 4: young Aussies get wild cards every single year at the 49 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 4: Train Open and literally barely win games, like it's nothing 50 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 4: against them, And it's the same at the US Open, 51 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 4: same with Wimbledon, the same with the French. You know, 52 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 4: you give them to because you're like, who are we 53 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 4: going to give them to? We've got like seven to 54 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 4: give out, you know, we have eight. But you know, 55 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 4: a lot of a couple of really good players, like 56 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 4: Storm Sanders is getting one from Australia who's barely outside 57 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 4: of getting into the main draw on her own and 58 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 4: represented Australia so well, to the Billy Jean King. 59 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 2: Cup et cetera, et cetera. 60 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 3: I mean, there are some players that really deserve it, 61 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 3: just outside of getting into the main draw from that country. 62 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: But there are also some that have gotten like six 63 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 3: wildcards over the last six years and they haven't done anything. 64 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: With their careers. 65 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 4: So as far as I'm concerned, if Venus Williams wants 66 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 4: to get a wild card into any tournament forever in 67 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 4: a day, including Andy Murray, people give him shit as 68 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 4: well for taking wild cards. They can have as many 69 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:53,119 Speaker 4: as they want. 70 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 3: They put more bums in seats, and that's the spectators 71 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 3: want to see them. And the young almost without exception, 72 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 3: talk about what an honor it is to share the 73 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 3: court with somebody like Andy Murray, What an honor it 74 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: is to hit balls with Venus Williams. 75 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so cool to say, even. 76 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 3: If you're especially if you're young, especially if you're eighteen 77 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 3: nineteen years old, to trade rallies with Venus Williams age 78 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 3: forty two. 79 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 2: Heyten, that's so cool. 80 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: You can see you overlapped with one of the greatest 81 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: of all time. 82 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: That's amazing. 83 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 4: I played stephie Graff and Gabriella Smatini in the very 84 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 4: first time I played these strangers. So in the first 85 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 4: round in doubles, can you believe my luck? That's neat 86 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 4: how unlucky that was. But at the same time, oh 87 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 4: my god, what a treat for me as a seventeen 88 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 4: year old getting a wild card into the doubles and. 89 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: I got one into the singles. Yes, I did. But 90 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: guess what, I went around. Hey, I right, Andrea Tamasavari, 91 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: which is a pretty good win back then. But I 92 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: think I beat her. Maybe I lost to her. I 93 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: don't know. It was a long time ago, but you 94 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: went around, But I did win around. 95 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know, to play Gabby and Stephie on 96 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 4: court one. It was it was packed, it was awesome. 97 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 4: So listen, Venus, I'm glad you're going. I'm glad you 98 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 4: got another wild card. 99 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 3: But let's get onto the actual Australian Open from last. 100 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: Year or this year is still it's still not quite 101 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: twenty three. 102 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 3: This is a good moment because this technically is our 103 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 3: last show of the year, but it will also serve 104 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: as our first show of the next year, because like 105 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 3: the tennis, we have now shifted our attention to Australia 106 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 3: and we are now in a. 107 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: Sort of stock taking moment. 108 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 3: We're looking back and the best stuff that happened this year, 109 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 3: which hopefully will give us a good prediction preview, you know, 110 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 3: a little teaser if you will, about what's to come. 111 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 3: And based on this past year of tennis, I am 112 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 3: very very When I get my head into this, which 113 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 3: I will in a few days, it's going to be 114 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 3: incredible because what a great year we had. 115 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 2: It was amazing. 116 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 4: Let's start at the Straine Open, because you know, the 117 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 4: run of Raphael Nadual this other the year was just 118 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 4: absolutely incredible, and of course it was just started out 119 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 4: with some amazing matches down there. 120 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: I remember sitting in the President's box. 121 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 4: Actually one day I got an invite in there and 122 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 4: I wasn't working and I got to watch Rafa play 123 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 4: europe Canadian. 124 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 3: Dennis Dennis Shapovalov. That match was absolutely enthralling. It was incredible, 125 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: and then he just dug so deep through every single match. 126 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 3: And then the match against Medvedev to me is equal 127 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 3: best match of the year, maybe slightly behind one we're 128 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 3: going to get into later, but the fact that he 129 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 3: was down two sets to love two three love forty, Okay, 130 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,559 Speaker 3: so if he loses one point there, and I watched 131 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: it again last week, and you know, honestly, Medvedev. 132 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 4: Had major chances to win those three points, played some 133 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 4: pretty bad, not great tennis in those love forty points. 134 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 4: If he'd gone four two and served to go five too, 135 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 4: the match was over. I actually thought the match was over. 136 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 4: I was sitting in Melbourne watching it, and I was like, oh, well, 137 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 4: you know it was. He almost got there because the 138 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 4: second set took it out of him so much physically 139 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 4: that I didn't think he was going to last five sets. 140 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 4: And he wins a point at love forty and He 141 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 4: literally looks up at his the crowd and his box 142 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 4: and goes rmless And I'm like, oh my god, only 143 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 4: this guy would care this much at like two three, 144 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 4: fifteen forty, but God love him. 145 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: Me whens the game comes back, gets to serve for 146 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 3: the match at five four and the fifth loses his serf, 147 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 3: takes the ball out of his pocket, throws it back 148 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 3: to the ball. 149 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: Kiad shakes his head and was like, oh God, here 150 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 2: we go again. 151 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 4: I'm going to lose another strain and open up a 152 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 4: break in the fifth, which he's done twice, once against Novak, 153 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 4: once against Roger. And he said that in the press 154 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 4: he actually thought about those matches, which I find so 155 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 4: remarkable me too. 156 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 3: Usually thinking about those moments of past defeat has a 157 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 3: moment as a way of taking out of the moment 158 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 3: and being negative. Yeah, it sounds like it motivated him 159 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 3: in the opposite way. And also, you don't think that 160 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 3: Rufus thinks negatively, but that just shows you that even 161 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 3: he who looks like he's so you know, committed and. 162 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 4: Focused, is also thinking negative thoughts. But that's the difference 163 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 4: between the greats. Everybody thinks negatively. 164 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,679 Speaker 3: It's how then they quickly turn it around and said 165 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 3: that I thought that, and then I said, but I'm 166 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: still here, and he has to beat me, and I'm 167 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 3: going to make him eat me. 168 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 2: Now he has to beat me. And actually, Medvedev played 169 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: a horrific game. He really did not play a. 170 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 4: Break game at five all, and of course Rafa got 171 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 4: the break and then served it out. You knew that 172 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 4: he was not going to back it up the second 173 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 4: time saving for it, and he played an amazing game 174 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 4: at six five. 175 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: So to me, that was one of. 176 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 4: The most incredible comebacks I've ever seen in tennis, particular 177 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 4: when Medvedev was playing so well. 178 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: And that was the second Grandson Final in a row 179 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: from Medvedev. 180 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: He had won and he incredibly well at the US 181 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 3: Open last year against Novak. 182 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 4: Crush Novak going for the Calendar Grand Slam. So I mean, 183 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 4: everyone thought, okay, well, this is now the time for Medvedev, 184 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 4: you know, and subsequently didn't even think about talking about Medvedev. 185 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 3: But he really has struggled loss. I think that loss 186 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 3: actually really. 187 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 4: Affected him in a way that I don't know if 188 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 4: anyone's ever asked him in press, but I think that 189 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 4: that loss really did affect him, so we're really not 190 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 4: going to talk about. 191 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: Him at all. 192 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true, he didn't really make much of a 193 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: run this year. 194 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 3: Maybe lead in the year, I remember he had a 195 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 3: good run in Paris, but other than that he was 196 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: kind of a non factor, which again for somebody who 197 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: had won the US Open the year before with such 198 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 3: is the best all at the time, totally by a 199 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,239 Speaker 3: good margin, and he just kind of had a collapse 200 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 3: after that fit set. I mean, it's really interesting the 201 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: way that one match can sort of affect your season, 202 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 3: right one. 203 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 4: I think that Novak losing Roger losing that final to 204 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 4: Novak at Wimbledon, I think that was the end of 205 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 4: his career. To me, it was the most amazing, amazing 206 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 4: match and tournament, and to see Ruff that happy when 207 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 4: he won was incredible. 208 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 3: We also had an amazing story on the women's side. 209 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 3: It was Ashbardy the kind of crowning achievement what ended 210 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 3: up being sort of the pinnacle of Ashbody's career. She 211 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 3: had a short career all in so I considered two 212 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 3: times cumulatively, she didn't spend that much time playing professional tennis, 213 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 3: but man did she make it count when she did 214 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 3: she made it count interesting that she's released a couple 215 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 3: of articles lately. She's going to be doing it a 216 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 3: bit of work for Tennis Australia, I think during the 217 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: Stray and Open. But she said that she's enjoying her life. 218 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 3: Not I'm surprised she's playing plenty of. 219 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: Golf, drinking plenty of beer, I would say. 220 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 4: But I think mostly she's the only thing that she's 221 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 4: a little bit confused about is what do I do 222 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 4: in my day? Because you know, as a tennis player, 223 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 4: as an athlete, professional athlete, and anyone who has a job, I. 224 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: Mean, you really have you get up in the day 225 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: and you have purpose. 226 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 3: And so I think it's she's struggling with a little 227 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 3: bit of finding purpose in her life. And I'm sort 228 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 3: of surprised she hasn't turned into a professional golfer just 229 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 3: because she's played a few pro am tournaments. And yeah, 230 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 3: I mean they say anybody who retires, your health and 231 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 3: your mental capacity declines almost immediately because you kind of 232 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 3: run out of things. 233 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 2: To do with yourself. 234 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 4: Very hard to be a professional golfer as well, And 235 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 4: even if she's a scratch golfer, which she basically is, 236 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 4: it's very hard, so it is possible. There's actually a 237 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 4: couple of Marty Fish obviously is a great golfer, but 238 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 4: there's a Marty will be the first to tell you 239 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 4: it's very different to being a great, a really good golfer. 240 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 3: Well, Tennis is a natural sport, so I can imagine 241 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 3: the difficulties are. 242 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: Golf is a game. It's a game. 243 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: It's a very hard game. 244 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 2: Golfs game. 245 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 4: That just on that note about the strain Open, before 246 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 4: we get off, Kalala account not talk about what happened 247 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 4: to Novak at the start of the year. 248 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it it's so hard to imagine. 249 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 3: That this time last year, everybody was glued to their 250 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 3: screens almost without exception, watching the drama of whether Novak 251 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 3: Djokovic was going to be allowed to stay in Australia 252 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 3: or not. 253 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 2: What unfold And I know that you have your thoughts 254 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: on this subject. 255 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 3: It's just so frustrating as an American based tennis fan 256 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 3: having to resort to the Tennis Channel as your main 257 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 3: source of tennis news and coverage. And granted, ESPN which 258 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 3: has slam coverage here in the US and they currently 259 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 3: have three or four all though that's changing as we 260 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 3: all know, their job is to show the matches, but 261 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: everything else, everything that happens weekend with a week out 262 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 3: that is not in a Slam, including drama with international borders, 263 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:56,479 Speaker 3: heads of state, the Serbian president, the Australian president, demonstrations 264 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: in the streets. All of the stuff that engulfed this 265 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 3: Novak Djokovic, he or won't he get into the country 266 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 3: drama was absolutely nowhere to be found on Tennis Channel Channel. 267 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 3: I was shocked because you know where it was to 268 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 3: be found, CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, Al Jazeera, BBC. Literally, 269 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 3: you could not swing a dead cat in this country 270 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 3: without seeing this story on TV. It was an international incident, 271 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 3: and nobody told the Tennis Channel because all they had 272 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 3: was Paul Anacone droning on about match predictions for a 273 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 3: tournament that was ten days out in the future. It 274 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 3: was like nobody told them that their job was to 275 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 3: talk about tennis in all contexts. It could not have 276 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 3: been more baffling to me when you had journalists, great journalists, 277 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 3: thoughtful journalists, tennis journalists, but also general purpose journalists in 278 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 3: all of these places ready to talk. I want body 279 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 3: language experts, I want heat maps, I want psychics. 280 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 2: I want. 281 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 3: This is where your journalistic like background and life just 282 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 3: drives you crazy that there are not more journalists quote 283 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 3: unquote in tennis doing stories about tennis. 284 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: I mean from look, we could talk. 285 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 3: About this, for like you talk about the Novak situation, 286 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: you talk about this Vary situation, you talk about Nick Kurios, 287 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 3: who's literally going to court in February in Australia. It's 288 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 3: not being talked about at all in the ether of 289 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 3: the tennis world. 290 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 4: And a lot of it is because you don't want 291 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 4: to piss off the players. You want them to come 292 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 4: and do their press, You want them to come and 293 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 4: do interviews and all that sort of stuff. Well that's fine, 294 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 4: but there also has to be a part where they 295 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 4: rely on being. 296 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 2: On television as well. 297 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 3: So if they want to get their name out there, 298 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 3: they still have to go to Tennis Channel, they still have. 299 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: To go to Espeah. They're right. 300 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 3: You can decide whether you set the agenda or you 301 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 3: let the agent set it for you. My personal hero, 302 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 3: Mary Carillo once told me that she felt like there 303 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 3: was a line in the sand covering sports, and you 304 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 3: could either decide that you set the agenda or you 305 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: could let the stars set it for you, and if 306 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 3: you did the latter, you were always at the back 307 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 3: and call of the agents. You lost your moral authority. 308 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 3: And I think anybody who actually appreciates journalism sees where 309 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 3: that gets us. I think you can have a robust 310 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,599 Speaker 3: conversation about domestic violence. I think you can have a 311 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 3: robust conversation about vaccination policies, and none of this hurts 312 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 3: the port. 313 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 2: In fact, it makes it more interesting. 314 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 3: More relevant, and more plugged into the rest of the world. 315 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 3: And so treating it as this like, you know, fragile 316 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 3: topic that nobody's allowed to breach, evidenced by the fact 317 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 3: that Tennis Channel missed their own biggest story is something 318 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 3: I'd like to see change. I don't have a ton 319 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 3: of faith the Tennis Channel is going to be the 320 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 3: one to change it. But if anybody, I mean. 321 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 4: You did think with someone like John Warfim working for them, 322 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 4: I mean, John's a great journalist, for sure. He gets 323 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 4: to the bottom of the piles of stuff, you know, 324 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 4: instead now he's doing sixty minutes. 325 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 2: Come on, you've got a guy that's working on sixty minutes. 326 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 3: If he can do the bottom of that story, if 327 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: he can do investigative journalism for sixty minutes. They should 328 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 3: be letting him do it on the Tennis channel. And 329 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 3: hopefully he's pushing to do it himself. Ye see, we'll see. 330 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 3: I mean, I know one thing. 331 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 4: I am not an investigative journalist and I was on 332 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 4: more friggin networks talking about Novak Djokovic's vaccination status and 333 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 4: COVID and blah blah blah, and I'm not a journalist, 334 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 4: but I bloody tried to get the. 335 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 2: Information, like co did. You got it right, I will 336 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: tell you. 337 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 4: And for the record, I thought the way that Novak 338 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 4: was treated in Australia was absolutely abominable. 339 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 2: It was. 340 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 4: It was atrocious. You can say what you want about Novak. 341 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 4: You can be on his side or not on his side. 342 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 4: We know he has very very aggressive fans. We've had 343 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 4: to deal with them on many occasions. But whether or 344 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 4: not you believe that he had COVID or not is 345 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 4: not the issue. He was allowed under the country under 346 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 4: the sea changed the rules on him. They changed the 347 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 4: rules on him. Vorakhova was in the country, had played 348 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 4: a tennis tournament already under the same auspice as him, 349 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 4: the same paperwork as him and as I said, you know, 350 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 4: you can say what you will. He should have been 351 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 4: allowed in the country. And it was a political statement 352 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 4: that they made, the Australian government because in March they 353 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 4: were having an the Austraian government were having an election 354 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 4: and they felt that the polls said that people did 355 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 4: not want Novack there and so they went with that. 356 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 4: So they screwed him on that. And you know, it's 357 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 4: nice to see me back in Australia. 358 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: It's not an issue. It's not an issue. 359 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 4: And I'm sure he's going to be talked about. He's 360 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 4: going to have to ask a lot of bet he's 361 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 4: going to be asked a lot of questions over the 362 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 4: next month about it. But he's already said that he's 363 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 4: happy to be there and he's relieved. 364 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 3: Well, so listen, if there's one thing we know about 365 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 3: Novak Djokovic, it's controversy or being in the sort of 366 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 3: crosshairs of a lot of controversy does not seem to do. 367 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 4: I think it'll actually I think he's going to be 368 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 4: very motivated. 369 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 2: I think he's going to have a phenomenal year. Well, 370 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: he had a phenomenal end of the year last year. 371 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 3: Final did a bunch of the indoor tournaments and he 372 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 3: ended up winning in two neat sets against Casper Rude 373 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 3: in the ATP Tour finals. Not a super close match, 374 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 3: and Rude had a great season. 375 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 4: And Renee of course won the weeks before in Paris 376 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 4: in the final, which was an incredible run. And Renee 377 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 4: of course won the Newcomer of the Year phenomenally made 378 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 4: the top ten. 379 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 2: So it's going to. 380 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 3: Be interesting to see where he goes this year and 381 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 3: what kind of a run he can make. 382 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you think about what al KaAZ did at 383 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 4: nineteen and Rune is right there. Renee beat Alcarete, Well, 384 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 4: he didn't really beat him. He had to stop in 385 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 4: the middle of the match with that injury. 386 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: But it's going to be so fun. 387 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 4: Let's hope that Rune and our Karraz beat up on 388 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 4: each other as much as Roger Rafa. 389 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 2: And Novak over forteen years. 390 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 4: I know, as much as you hate the length of 391 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 4: these great players. 392 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be inside dynasty. They play so similarly. They're 393 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 3: unbelievable athletes. They hit the shit out of the ball. 394 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 3: To both of them. I think as long as you 395 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 3: include center in that trio, oh yeah, I'll be excited 396 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 3: because they like the absolute tripotate. 397 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: Differential between the playing styles. 398 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: That for me is really fun. 399 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 4: Okay, we skipped to the French Open, Yeah, where Rafa 400 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 4: wins his fourteenth I mean, they're just I cannot even 401 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 4: believe those words are coming out of my mouth. And 402 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 4: when he won ten which Novak has a chance to 403 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 4: do in Australia. 404 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: I was like, this is just insane. When you think 405 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 2: about the record of. 406 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 3: Pete Sampras's amount of Grand Slam victories, right, and in 407 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 3: fact that Raff has won more then Pete won in 408 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: every single category. 409 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 2: Of a Grand Slam, mind boggling. It's just unbelievable. 410 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 4: He crushed Novak in the quarterfinals and probably the best 411 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 4: fourth set, or probably the best set of tennis anyone's. 412 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 3: Ever watched in the entire and the entire lives was a. 413 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,959 Speaker 2: Fourth set of that French Shop. That's quite a statement. 414 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 4: I mean it was everyone, Oh, that was the match 415 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 4: of the year. I'm like, calm the farm. It wasn't 416 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 4: the best match. It was the best set of tennis 417 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 4: I've ever watched in the fourth set when Ratha ended 418 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 4: up winning it in fourth and then they just gave 419 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 4: him the confidence to go on and win the tournament, although 420 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 4: you know, we Zverev was given him a tough times. 421 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 2: Ever, of course, rolled his ankle very severely in that match. 422 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: It's kept him off most of the rest of the year. 423 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: All the year. 424 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 3: I mean, he's just coming back in the end of 425 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 3: the season. But I don't I think Vera was playing 426 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 3: very very well. I don't think there was any chance 427 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 3: he won that match. He lasted for a second, it 428 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 3: was starting to choke. 429 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: Okay, well, that's will never know. 430 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 3: We'll be able to see him back in action now, 431 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 3: We'll never know. But yeah, Rafa at the French was 432 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's such a crazy it's such a 433 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 3: foregone conclusion now, but it goes without saying that fourteen 434 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 3: is mind boggling. It's just outrageous, and we had an 435 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 3: incredible effort from Ego. It really not only cemented her 436 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 3: status as somebody who was pretty much unbeatable on clay, 437 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 3: but also somebody who was going to be pretty much 438 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 3: unbeatable for the. 439 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: Rest of the year. I'm almost any servus I what she. 440 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 4: Did by you know, I saw her in the parking 441 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 4: lot in Miami when Ashbardy had announced her retirement and 442 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 4: that therefore and pulling herself off the ranking list, and 443 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 4: therefore Eagle would go to number one the next week. 444 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 4: And I saw her that day in the parking lot, 445 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 4: and I saw Daria, her sports psychologists and her and 446 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 4: I said. 447 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 2: How she doing? And she can't looked at me like, oh, 448 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: you know, like I don't know if I'm ready for 449 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 2: this quite yet? Well, hell was she ever ready? 450 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 3: Now? She wins Indian Wells, She then wins Miami, She 451 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 3: wins every tournament leading up to. 452 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: The French She dusts. 453 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 2: Did everyone in the finals of Miami? 454 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 3: I mean everybody was like, oh, finally my name Osaka 455 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 3: decided to show up and play some tennis this here? Nope, no, 456 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 3: God dusted half a set against Ego. 457 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 4: Maybe Ega went from on a thirty seven match win streak, 458 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 4: which is the longest since the year two thousands, twenty 459 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 4: two years. 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But that was just phenomenal. 480 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 3: She's never she hasn't she's not real comfortable on grass. 481 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 3: We'll see where she goes next year. 482 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,239 Speaker 2: I do have a bet on with her. 483 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 3: If she makes the semis or better at wemblon, I 484 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 3: get a nice gift. 485 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 2: Oh, just a gift of any type. I'm not gonna 486 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 2: say which it is, but you know, but I know 487 00:20:58,760 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 2: what it is. 488 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 3: Okay, it's like a stick dinner or it's better than that, 489 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 3: because you know, I told her she's got to be 490 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 3: a free psychological session. 491 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 2: Daria it. I'll show it to you if she gets there. 492 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 2: So it wasn't There's. 493 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 4: Everyone out there pull for e gonna make the semi 494 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 4: felt better at Wimbledon this coming year. 495 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 3: Well, that's one of the most exciting things about noting 496 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 3: a player really at the top of her game, considering 497 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 3: what Ego went on to do for the rest of 498 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 3: the year, but also knowing that there's still more ceiling, right, 499 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 3: Like there's still such as Steal to improve, there's still 500 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 3: more room for her. 501 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 4: At the US opened about the balls and was not happy, 502 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 4: was not playing well there. 503 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 2: And guess what she does. She ends up winning the tourny. 504 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 3: She won the tournament pretty handily in the finals against 505 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 3: Os Druper, but she got better match after match after match. 506 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 2: Like that was the other thing. 507 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: She started off a little creaky, but then by. 508 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 3: The time she was in the semis finals, she was 509 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 3: I mean, she was just a level above everybody else, 510 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 3: which is saying a lot because I think in the 511 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 3: later stage of that tournament, in particular, you had Gussia 512 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 3: playing off her seat, I played off her mind. On's 513 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 3: was looking pretty unstoppable. Cocoa GF made another great, great 514 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 3: lead run, which let's pause for a second since we're 515 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 3: talking about the French at the moment, and just say, 516 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 3: Cocoa GoF somebody who had made her first Grand Slam 517 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 3: final in singles and doubles, in singles and doubles, made 518 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 3: the tour finals top eight singles and doubles, and she 519 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 3: has so much room to grow. She's gotten so much better, 520 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 3: and there's so much more, so much more room to 521 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 3: go to improve. 522 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 2: It's just fourhand. 523 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 4: Once she gets that forehand organized and confident, she will 524 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 4: definitely be the player to be in the next like 525 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 4: three years. 526 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 2: But she's got to get their forehand under control, and 527 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 2: the and the serve. 528 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 3: There's there's kinks in the serve that I don't like 529 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 3: as well. So if she can square away those two, 530 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 3: the serve and the forehand, she's gonna have. 531 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 2: An amazing And she's already incredible. 532 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 4: So you know, I'm and you know I want to 533 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 4: give props while we're at it to Jessica Bagoula, her 534 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 4: doubles partner in the finals of the French Open. What 535 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 4: an amazing year, made the top man three in the world, 536 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 4: number three in the world. I think about where she 537 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 4: was three years ago during the pandemic. 538 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 3: Didn't even get an invitation into this Charleston exhibition that 539 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 3: I went down with Jeannie Bouchard in. 540 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 2: She couldn't even get in on the American team to play. 541 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 3: And she was there practicing and went and played this 542 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 3: event in Lexington, Kentucky, a money event as well. 543 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 2: And you know, I just think. 544 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 4: About the hours that she's put in with David Witt 545 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 4: and what an incredible job he's done with her. To 546 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 4: get to number three in the world is absolutely unbelievable. 547 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 4: She wins Guadalajara her first one thousand victory. I mean, 548 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,479 Speaker 4: it took her years to win a tournament, and then 549 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 4: she won that tournament in Washington, DC and really with 550 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 4: David and hasn't looked back. And so Jess, super proud 551 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 4: of you. Also an alarm of the pod Jessica as also. 552 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 3: I just want to shout out to jess Pogola for 553 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 3: having the coolest post match press conference. AVI she really 554 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 3: did with the BF I mean just generally de ribes 555 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 3: and then add a beer on top of it. She's 556 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 3: just like the person most likely to want. 557 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 2: To hang out the bar. Yeah, got married. I mean, 558 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 2: she just had a great year. 559 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a big Jeff Pagola fan. Maybe the Bills 560 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 3: will give her something to jump start her season with 561 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 3: and she would like the role she would like, and 562 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 3: then we'll have another great Jess Googola run. One of 563 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,959 Speaker 3: a few Americans who had a really, really great year. 564 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 2: I don't really go in. 565 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: For the nationalism stuff because that doesn't matter to me 566 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: where people. 567 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 2: Are from generally. 568 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 3: But it is exciting after having had a bit of 569 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 3: a dearth of exciting young talent here in the States 570 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 3: to have not won in Cocoa several or Jets, but 571 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 3: Francis and others, Taylor Fritz winning Indian Wells, like, we've 572 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 3: had an exciting kind of Francis's run at the US 573 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 3: Open was unbelievable, like just everything. So American tennis is 574 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 3: looking really healthy and young, which is good, right, I 575 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 3: want to go to just as far as Wimbledon, I mean, 576 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 3: the ban on the Russians and Belarussians that was I 577 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,719 Speaker 3: think a pr disaster for Wimbledon. I think the ATP 578 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 3: and WTA also handled it woefully. It was just a 579 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 3: disaster of an event in some ways because of that. 580 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 3: But Rabakina, I mean, when she plays at her best, 581 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 3: she is she takes the it. 582 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 2: Out of your hand. 583 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 4: She's got a massive serve, just hits the shit out 584 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 4: of the ball. I mean, I mean she made Eat 585 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 4: look pretty pretty average the other day at that event 586 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 4: in Dubai. I know it's an exhibition, and also there's 587 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 4: no ad, which makes a big difference because if you're 588 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 4: a big server and a big hitter, you can sort 589 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 4: of win games really easily. So I don't put a 590 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 4: lot of credence in it. But it is still a 591 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 4: big win. But that was Ons to win. I thought, 592 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 4: you know, Ons had was probably. 593 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: The I think Ans would agree with you. 594 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 4: But I see Ons really threatening again at Wimbledon next 595 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 4: year because she has just such variety and or dropshot 596 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 4: of such killer on. 597 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 3: My hook with Ons is having seen her have a 598 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 3: pretty good year year before last and a great year 599 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,479 Speaker 3: this year where she very credibly could have won two 600 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 3: Grand slams, or at least one because she was up 601 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 3: in that call it. Well, it's also you see, I 602 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 3: think players and Google is another one where they get 603 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 3: to that level on the either panic or they get 604 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 3: comfortable and they say, okay, well. 605 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: I deserve to be here. I expect this of myself. 606 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 3: And my hope for her is that tennis just watching 607 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 3: her variety, watching her personality, watching how excited she makes 608 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 3: the entirety of the Arab world engaged. I mean, it's 609 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 3: kind of similar to seeing Morocco do so well at 610 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 3: the World Cup. It's like tennis is great when it 611 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 3: draws on talent, pools and traditions and vistas and tournament 612 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 3: locations from all these different and I mean looks she 613 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 3: wants it. You know, the Karen Kransky Award as well. 614 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 3: So she's so beloved on the tour. So I have 615 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 3: a really strong showing from Arms this year and chout 616 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 3: out because she's on the cover of Vulgaribia right now, 617 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 3: looking like. 618 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: She's ready to solve some crimes. 619 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 2: Looks like a cool detective. 620 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 4: Okay, Well, so we get to the summer US Open 621 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 4: period of time. I mean, what an incredible run from 622 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 4: Alcarez to win the US Open. Unbelievable. This kid is 623 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,239 Speaker 4: so exciting, so fun. But of course Novak misses out 624 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 4: the US Open. 625 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 3: Again because he's not vaccinated, and you know, this is 626 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 3: just the issue all year. 627 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 2: Hopefully this is just over with now. 628 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 4: As far as situation is concerned. But you know, Novak 629 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 4: may have cost himself two or three Grand Slams this year, 630 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 4: which you know clearly he wins Wimbledon playing unbelievable to 631 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 4: us again beating Nick. We've got to mention Nick Curios's 632 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 4: run at Wimbledon. Of course, he got a default in 633 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 4: the semis over Rafa over I was looking forward to 634 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 4: that and a shout out to Taylor Fritz after winning 635 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 4: indiw Wells and then making an I mean that match 636 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 4: at Wimbledon was that could go up as one of 637 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 4: the best matches of the year, losing to Rafa and 638 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 4: that unbelievable five setter. But Nick, you know, shout us 639 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 4: all that he can get through to a Grand Slam final, 640 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 4: so look out if he stays healthy and fit. He 641 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 4: played great after that. He won the singles and the 642 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 4: doubles at Washington. He was a threat again at US Open. 643 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: Beat Medvedev. 644 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 3: I mean, just you know, when he wants to play 645 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 3: and he's fit and healthy. 646 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 2: Look out. 647 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really disappointed in the way that he 648 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 3: contended that Wembledon final. 649 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: I thought he tucked himself out of it and. 650 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 2: Give the match to Novak. No, I think you know 651 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: what his problem was. 652 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 3: I think he finally got beat by a guy it 653 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 3: was just fitter than him. 654 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 2: There's one point I can't remember when it were it 655 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: was a set. 656 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 4: There was a third set when it was really a tussle, 657 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 4: and there was about a thirty ball rally and I 658 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 4: don't remember the score, but it was like a thirty 659 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,479 Speaker 4: ball rally that Novak ended up winning. And I swear 660 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 4: to you after that point and I said to everyone 661 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 4: in the room, he's done physically. 662 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 2: He was done. 663 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 3: After that point. And that's when he started getting the 664 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 3: shits with the. 665 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 4: Crowd, the drunk lady in the front and yelling at 666 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 4: his box together a reason to Liz. 667 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, he kind of held it together until then. 668 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 3: I think inside of him he knew he couldn't physically 669 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 3: last after that, and I think that that his default 670 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 3: mechanism then is to get angry at everyone else because. 671 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 2: He knows we can't. And it's it's look, a. 672 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 3: Psychologist could have a real field Day working with him 673 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 3: on a consistent basis to work out where it comes from. 674 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 4: I've talked to you about this. I think he was 675 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 4: bullied really badly as a kid. 676 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: Clearly he's working with a lighter baggage for sure. 677 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 4: I think that there's a lot going on there, and 678 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 4: I think when he realizes that he can't win, he 679 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 4: gets really angry, and he gets he starts blaming other 680 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 4: people instead of looking in respectively at himself. 681 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: And it's not a slight on Nick. 682 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 3: This is just I see that players being able to 683 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 3: improve not only physically, but. 684 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 2: Also mentally and emotionally. 685 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 3: And to his credit, he cared, I think the first 686 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 3: time in a very long time, and afterwards shape I 687 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 3: think is really meaningful and I think is a real 688 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 3: step forward, as scary as it must be for him to, 689 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 3: you know, deeply care and then lose. 690 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 2: So I think that's this he takes. 691 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 3: Away from that, you know, some some real progress to 692 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 3: build on. Let's hope given this February court date that 693 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 3: you know he's. 694 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 2: Still got a few things to deal with us. Clearly 695 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: he's clearly got some some stuff got I will say. 696 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 4: Well, at Washington when I did interview him a couple 697 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 4: of times I was there working at the tournament, and 698 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 4: You've just looked and felt like a little different guy, 699 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 4: just the way answered questions and stuff. And I think 700 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 4: getting to the final Wimbledon made him feel pretty good 701 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:04,479 Speaker 4: about himself. 702 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 2: So let's hope that continues throughout next year. 703 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,479 Speaker 4: And of course Alcaa is winning unbelievable and we know 704 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 4: what Eager Sciontech did there by winning another Grand Slam 705 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 4: and a tournament that she was not happy with the balls, etc. 706 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 3: We talked about, Yeah, winning when you're feeling great and 707 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 3: being all the conditions are in your favor feels amazing. Yeah, 708 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 3: I can remembred that feeling from juniors in college, winning 709 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 3: when you're not feeling good, when you don't like the conditions, 710 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 3: when the service isn't going your way, and with the 711 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 3: balls or too heavy or. 712 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 2: Whatever they were for her, it feels good. 713 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: That's really something. 714 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,479 Speaker 4: But I guess the tournament, the US Open, is two things. 715 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 4: It had the match of the year. There's no question. 716 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 3: With Alcarez and Sinner, I hope we see them play, 717 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 3: as you said earlier, for the next ten to fifteen years. 718 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 4: Too wonderful, guys. I mean when I say nice guys. 719 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 4: I'm saying nice guys. They are both such nice kids. 720 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 4: They say a low to everybody. They're so respectful. I 721 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 4: did an interview with Alcarez this year at Wimbledon, and 722 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 4: he thanked every body in the stuff, like the crew, 723 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 4: the sound guys, the cameraman. 724 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 2: He shook everyone's hand. I was like, does he know 725 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 2: these people? Like he just is the nicest kid. But 726 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 2: I guess the storyline really of the US Open as Serena. 727 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 4: I mean, what happened the first week with Serena was 728 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 4: just incredible. 729 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 2: Obviously for me, it was very personal. I was part 730 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 2: of it. 731 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 4: It was a moment that I look back on now 732 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 4: and just think, wow, I'm I'm so proud I was 733 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 4: a part of that with her, to see her from 734 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 4: the age of twelve years of age and then to 735 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 4: see her walk away from the game, and it was 736 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 4: such an incredible week. I'm so glad she won a 737 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 4: couple of matches and felt good about her tennis, even 738 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 4: to the point that she probably thought about maybe I 739 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 4: can play more, you know, But yeah, Look, it was 740 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 4: just incredible. The crowd noise was just unbelievable. I've never 741 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 4: heard anything like it. In my life, the support she 742 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 4: got at the US Open. So it was a beautiful 743 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 4: send off. The only thing it would have been better 744 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 4: if she won the tournament, but realistically that was going 745 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 4: to be pretty tough with lack of matches over the year. 746 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 4: But that was an amazing moment for me and I 747 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 4: think for the tennis world to Psy goodbye, and I 748 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 4: think she acquitted herself exceptionally. 749 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 2: She competed, she went. 750 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,479 Speaker 3: Down swinging, and she had, you know, I think a 751 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 3: fitting send off between on court soaking up the love 752 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 3: of that crowd, the sight of her first Grand Slam 753 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 3: victory at age nineteen, but also having all of these 754 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 3: amazing cultural moments, being on the cover of Bogue, having 755 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 3: the Fashion Week appearances, and just really getting to sort 756 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 3: of everything step into this moment and sort of soak 757 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 3: it in. So yeah, I mean, looking back on it 758 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 3: six months later now and facing a tour year without 759 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 3: her and without the other famous person who was going 760 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 3: to get to there is a really interesting changed landscape. Yeah, 761 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 3: I mean, we hadn't had Roger and Serena around for 762 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 3: the last like twelve months really, other than you know, 763 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 3: Serena's magical run at the US Open, and that first 764 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 3: round match at Wimbledon, which was pretty dramatic in to say, 765 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 3: at least Harmony Tan you can never forget that name. 766 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,719 Speaker 3: But but you know, Roger send Off, I mean I 767 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 3: was bawling my eyes out. 768 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 2: I know you were just like, oh, I'm glad he's 769 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 2: finally gone for this. 770 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 3: To be But you know, I get personal emails and 771 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 3: Instagram messages from people that hate you for that, the 772 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 3: three disgruntled, Well, you know, it's a bit much. I mean, 773 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 3: he gave so much of the game. I love the guy. 774 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 4: He's always been such a gentleman, such a nice person 775 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 4: to myself personally. I will miss him being around because 776 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 4: I love that just that magnetic walk, that just that's 777 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 4: everything about him. The most beautiful tennis player I've ever 778 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 4: seen play, that one handed backhand. 779 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: Everything about him was just classy. 780 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 4: And to see him like just crying his eyes out 781 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 4: with Rafa just bawling his eyes out, it was just 782 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 4: such a beautiful moment for men, you know, for I 783 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 4: just to see two great athletes realizing that the end 784 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 4: was there and how much they appreciated each other and 785 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 4: what they'd both gone. 786 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: Through, and it's a really beautiful emotional. 787 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. 788 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 3: It was pretty amazing. So sadly both of them are gone, 789 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 3: but listen, we've got. 790 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 2: A lot world forward to. 791 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 3: My hope is that, just as you mentioned Nash, body 792 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 3: is gonna hopefully be doing some tennis commentating for Australian 793 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 3: networks during the forthcoming Slam. 794 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: We're going to have Roger at Wimbledon. 795 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 2: I think for the BBC. You're hearing. 796 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 3: That's what I've That's what's been reported a couple of 797 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:22,760 Speaker 3: different places. 798 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see what ESPN. 799 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 4: Does as well, because I don't know if he's there 800 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 4: for the b and I don't know anything. 801 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 3: This is a cure speculation. You all know that I 802 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 3: work for ESPAM, but we haven't. I haven't heard anything. 803 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 4: But my god, if we got Roger on some of 804 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 4: the coverage, oh going to be so awesome. We got 805 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 4: to talk a couple of just little side bits. 806 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 3: Obviously, Team Dominic Team, let's see where he can keep 807 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 3: going to tennis tour is better with him healthy, competing 808 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:59,959 Speaker 3: bringing that incredible like just doggedness. Still the best twin 809 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 3: or I've ever seen was committed at full speed by 810 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 3: Dominic Team. I play a couple of years ago, and 811 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 3: you know that risk injury is not it's not because 812 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 3: this guy has been in the comeback process now going 813 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 3: on two seasons, and he had some brief. 814 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 2: Starting to get there though. I think he started to 815 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 2: get there. 816 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 3: Let's hope for next year we get a rejuvenated team 817 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 3: back on tour because it's better with him in it, 818 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 3: much better. 819 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 2: And of course Severev he's back as well. 820 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 4: So you know, two really players that we thought were 821 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 4: maybe going to take over the mantle, they're back playing. 822 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 4: You know how we both feel about Zverev and everything 823 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 4: that happens, and. 824 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 2: Tennis is not the issue. 825 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 3: He's playing some good tennis before he went down with 826 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 3: that high ankle injury in the French Open. Let's see 827 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 3: how that case gets resolved. One thing that we didn't 828 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 3: talk about. Can I just go back to Wimbledon is 829 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 3: the run of Tatiana Maria. Think. 830 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 4: I think if there's a fairy tale story this year, 831 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 4: we have to give it to Tatiana. 832 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 3: Maria to make a semi final Wimbledon as a mom of. 833 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 4: Two doing it for the most. You know, came back, 834 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 4: she had her second child the year. We've already talked 835 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 4: about this. 836 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 3: She played for six months, and that's why I don't 837 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 3: think she should have got Comeback. 838 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 2: Player of the Year. 839 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 4: That should have been Dariya Gavelop But we've already discussed 840 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 4: this for all our tennis podcast. 841 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 2: People know. 842 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 4: But her run at Wimbledon was so magical. I've never 843 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 4: I cried every time she won. She's the nicest person 844 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 4: in the world. Her husband's the greatest guy. Her kids 845 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 4: are amazing, Like, there's just. 846 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 2: Nothing pets couldn't be, just nothing you can't say about. 847 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 2: It's got a great couch, she's got a one handed 848 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 2: bats and. 849 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 3: Her fridge are always cold and served over a she 850 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 3: had a two handed backhand and went to the one handed. 851 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 4: I respect that is unbelievable that she chopping and slicing 852 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 4: her way to a semberfinal. Wer It was an amazing story. 853 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: It was one of Dan Evans of Women's game. 854 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 2: Totally love you, We love you, Tatiana. Actually, let's get her. 855 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 3: On the pod. 856 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, got to go. But what else? 857 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: I don't know when she's going to be. 858 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 2: She's on the cover, she's going to be. She's on 859 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 2: the cover of record magazines. 860 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 3: And I remember you putting Musuka on the cover of 861 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 3: Racket magazine years before. 862 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 2: She was number one. Well speak, let's just say, where 863 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 2: is Naomi Essa? Dude, Nami asaka. 864 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 3: One thing I want for her And we've said this 865 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 3: a little bit on the past podcast. The world's highest 866 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 3: paid female athlete raking in fifty one million dollars last year. 867 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 3: I think she raked in about fifty million dollars a 868 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 3: year before she's doing. Just find the bank account department, 869 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 3: if you need to get intensive help, support, if you 870 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 3: need to take a sabbatical, but please just do what 871 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 3: you need to do, because I for me, it's really 872 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 3: tough to see a player who's. 873 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,919 Speaker 1: Obviously not enjoying the sport as. 874 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 2: Much as she's obviously. Look at ash body. 875 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 3: Look she accomplished winning the French Open Wimbledon. Astraie opened 876 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 3: and said back, yeah for the second time, because she 877 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 3: wasn't happy in the first time. And I don't think 878 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 3: she ever really longed to tend us to that way. 879 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 3: And she didn't love traveling, and she didn't love being 880 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 3: away from her family, and she didn't like the pressure 881 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:56,959 Speaker 3: and all. 882 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:57,479 Speaker 2: That sort of stuff. 883 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 4: And I think Naomi is very similar in that respect 884 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 4: to her family life is a little bit more complicated 885 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 4: than ashes. But yeah, I mean, it's clear that she's 886 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 4: not happy, but boy, you know, it'd be great if 887 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 4: she was happy and got back on the tenn. 888 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,800 Speaker 3: Listen when she plays lights out tennis like that Miami 889 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 3: run where you're thinking, oh, hey, maybe she's into this again. 890 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 2: She looked great up until that final against Ego. 891 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 3: So it is interesting to see Naomi's name at the 892 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 3: top of all these lists as earning all this money, 893 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 3: which you know, look great work if you can get it, 894 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 3: don't don't you know, don't. 895 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: Let me talk you out of a fifty million dollar check. 896 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 3: But you know, it is a little disappointing when when 897 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,479 Speaker 3: she's obviously seemingly doing it for just the appearance fees 898 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,720 Speaker 3: or just the you know, sponsor obligations, and it's tough 899 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 3: to reconcile that with a very very clearly unhappy person. 900 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 4: Speaking of unhappy, what about Simona Hallan, what's going on there? 901 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 2: What is going on there? 902 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 4: We haven't heard much, but I don't know. Apparently, I 903 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 4: don't know someone's going to get thrown under the bus there. 904 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 4: I don't know who it's going to be, but I 905 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 4: think someone from her team is going to get thrown 906 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 4: under the bus and I don't know any information, so. 907 00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 2: I don't think that I do. But this is. 908 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 4: I mean, I really want to make I really want 909 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 4: this to not be true, and I just have to 910 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 4: fall on the side. I don't believe she would take 911 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 4: anything unknowingly, but do you think it could be a 912 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 4: Maria sherpop a situation where somebody who she trusted to 913 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 4: keep up with the stuff and the supplements and don't know. 914 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 4: I mean, listen, Darren Cahill put it out that he 915 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 4: said anything that she would take, she would double and 916 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 4: triple check every time. And I believe Darren, He's not 917 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 4: going to make that up. He's not going to say 918 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 4: that complicated. He just wouldn't say anything. So I just 919 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 4: really believe, you know, from Darren's perspective, for him to 920 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 4: say that out loud, it just makes me feel like 921 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 4: she wouldn't knowingly put something in her system to cheat. 922 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 4: But listen, I guess we'll find out at some point. 923 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 4: But at this moment in time, she ain't playing tennis. 924 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 3: Which is really weird because you know, again we look 925 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 3: at some of the past greats, Naomi's not really playing 926 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 3: much tennis. 927 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 2: Someone is out of. 928 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 1: The game Serena like Kuber, I mean Mozletop she had 929 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: a kid. 930 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 2: Awesome news. Maybe she'll come back. We've lost Andy Petkovich. 931 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 3: We lost Andrea Petkovic, the most of the world's most 932 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 3: compelling tennis player. You know, it's it's a remade landscape. 933 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 3: And you want, as we were just talking about Zverevan 934 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 3: team and all these guys, you want the best coward 935 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,320 Speaker 3: of players, right, you want the most competitive, most amazing melange, 936 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 3: at least I do. 937 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 2: I don't like when the. 938 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 1: Season's a foregun conclusion. 939 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 3: I more players playing well, being happy, exceeding. I want 940 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 3: to see Carolyne Garcia RTT back up her great run 941 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 3: where I think her run started when she won the 942 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 3: French Open. 943 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 4: Doubles as well, So anybody else onto play doubles, Okay, 944 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,879 Speaker 4: get some totally get some match wins. Look at Nick 945 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 4: Kurios winning the strain iplan and goes on a great 946 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 4: run and wins a French Open. 947 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 2: Has an unbleagual. 948 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 4: Season immediately after that, because I think it gave her 949 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 4: a ton of confidence. 950 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 3: Also, I love when the players take competing for their 951 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:48,760 Speaker 3: country really seriously. 952 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: Canada lifted the Davis Cup Trophy this year. 953 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 3: I don't need to say that to you as somebody 954 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 3: who made a run seem finally breaks the curse of 955 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,800 Speaker 3: getting into all these consecutive finals and lose by winning 956 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 3: ends of the season by hoisting the Davis Cup Trophy 957 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 3: over his had credits fellow Canadians and looks like going 958 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 3: into the twenty twenty three season a totally different player, 959 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 3: somebody who always had the talent, always had the movement, 960 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 3: always had the beautiful technique, but maybe not the sort 961 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 3: of stick to itiveness or big moment matchplay toughness, and 962 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 3: now all of a sudden, it looks like a different 963 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 3: guy like that to me is so exciting thinking about, Okay, 964 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 3: hopefully these guys continue the momentum into the next year, 965 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 3: and he's one of them. 966 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 4: One player I think we need to have a little 967 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 4: think about for next year that I think might have 968 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 4: a decent run is Sloan Stevens. She's hired Francisca Roy 969 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 4: who was obviously with Raffaelanda for a number of years 970 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 4: twenty years almost, and I think that's a big step 971 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,439 Speaker 4: for a Sloan. He was working with Sloane a little 972 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 4: bit at the end of last year, so I know 973 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 4: at the US Open. 974 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 2: He was there at Cincinnati. 975 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 4: He was there and he was helping her, but he 976 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 4: wasn't full full time with her, giving her every bit 977 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 4: of attention. So I think this is a big hire 978 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 4: because to me, it's Sloan saying all right, I'm going 979 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 4: to give this one really good shot because for me, 980 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 4: when Sloane's out her best, she can beat anybody in 981 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 4: the world. I thought she could have won five Grand Slams. 982 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 4: She's only got that US Open only. I mean, i'd 983 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 4: take it, I'd take. 984 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 3: It, sure, But but I think she's she's she's unbeatable. 985 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 3: She should have won the French Open the year. So 986 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 3: I think this is a big hire. 987 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 4: And I think there's this letting everyone know listen, I'm 988 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 4: really serious because she kind of since Kamala Murray and 989 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,439 Speaker 4: you know him in and out and random coaching. This 990 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 4: is a big statement by her saying all right, I'm 991 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 4: serious about this year. So look out for Sloan Stevens 992 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 4: next year twenty twenty three. 993 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: Oh, I hope that prediction comes true. That may to 994 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 1: take me very. 995 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 2: Out because speaking of. 996 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,720 Speaker 3: Him, Sloan is just so great on the mic everything. 997 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,760 Speaker 3: Very few people are as fun she's philanthropic, she's cool, 998 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 3: she's smart, she's funny, and she went to Africa. She 999 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 3: can stand in holidays, bat it back and forth with 1000 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 3: the journals in a way that's like. 1001 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,720 Speaker 2: Cool and fun. I just I have nothing. 1002 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 3: She's a great commentator, like when she's done her guest 1003 00:42:54,040 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 3: stints unfredible. Yeah, So a healthy, engaged, competitive Sloan again. 1004 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 2: So that's my breakout for next year and the women's. 1005 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 4: In the men's, we'll see my fingers across the dominic 1006 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 4: team that he has a great run. 1007 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 2: But I predicted a. 1008 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 3: Couple of months ago that maybe it's called Darren Kale's 1009 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 3: coaching him, and I love Darren and I love Yannick, 1010 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 3: but I think Janick sin is going to really surprise 1011 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 3: a lot of people next year. So I'm hoping that 1012 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 3: those two are my standouts for next year. 1013 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. But twenty twenty two was amazing. 1014 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 3: There was a lot of Rockie moments between vaccinations, Wimbledon, 1015 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,320 Speaker 3: the Hull thing, Serena retiring, Rogers retiring, But it was 1016 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 3: a great, fun year. 1017 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 2: Great year. 1018 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,959 Speaker 3: I want to see a few people do much better. 1019 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 3: And by those people, I don't mean tennis players. I 1020 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 3: want the Tennis channel to do dramatically better. I want 1021 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 3: the governing bodies to do dramatically better. The fact that 1022 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,240 Speaker 3: we had an empty stadium for the WTA Tour Finals 1023 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 3: was unacceptable. Yep. The fact that these schedules and the 1024 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 3: travel necessitated by the players, the fact that there's new 1025 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 3: competitions but they're not necessarily in to the fold. It's 1026 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 3: an unenviable job running a governing body and a sport, 1027 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 3: and Tennis has with the Slam countries no fewer than 1028 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 3: seven yep. That said get your shit together, get your 1029 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 3: shit together. There's no excuse for this sport, which is beloved, 1030 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 3: which is growing, and which is poised to explode even 1031 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 3: further with the airing next month of the Netflix seriest 1032 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 3: break Point, brought. 1033 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 1: To you by the same production company Box to Box 1034 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 1: that did Drive. 1035 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,399 Speaker 3: To Get Your Shit Together. Just let's get our shit 1036 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 3: together twenty twenty three. Yeh, governing bodies, this is on you, guys. 1037 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:34,720 Speaker 2: Get it together. 1038 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 3: Marketing for the WTA, get your marketing together. I'm sick 1039 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,240 Speaker 3: and tired of it. I've spoken to them a hundred 1040 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 3: times about this. 1041 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 2: They're marketing. 1042 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 4: I know they don't have that much money, But get 1043 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 4: your shit together with marketing. You do it, and I 1044 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,760 Speaker 4: mean this with all my heart. You stink at it. Okay, 1045 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 4: the marketing for the WTA is horrendous. It is run 1046 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 4: really shoddily half the time. I think we and I 1047 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 4: love Steve Simon, but we need new leadership. I believe 1048 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 4: that at the WTA. I think the ATP are doing 1049 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 4: a better job on that front, even though they've had 1050 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 4: their moments. If Grand slams, everybody's let's get our shit 1051 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 4: together and Tennis Channel stop showing pickaball it's terrible, all right. 1052 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 3: Positive note twenty twenty three is around the corner. It's 1053 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 3: going to bring some amazing tennis narratives. And now after 1054 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 3: our chat, I am inspired. I will go and turn 1055 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,919 Speaker 3: on the TV and get re engaged. I just needed 1056 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 3: a breathere to. 1057 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 1: Reset because I care so much for it. That's why 1058 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: I care so much. 1059 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 2: I know we do. 1060 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 4: We care a lot, We care a lot, care a lot. 1061 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,359 Speaker 4: We love you guys. Thank you for listening to us, 1062 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 4: Thank you for this. Happy twenty twenty two. Have you 1063 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,359 Speaker 4: had a great Christmas and you'll have an amazing new year. 1064 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 2: Happy Hearneker, all that sort of stuff. We'll see you 1065 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty thirty. Everybody bite back.