1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,199 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: on you home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly, he is Matt Williams. 4 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: If we are live from Steelers training camp here at 5 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: Saint Pencent College in late Row and watching a little 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: live run drow here. It's been an active practice, man, 7 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: it really has been. And this was a little different 8 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: here because we saw that this opened up with basically 9 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: backups against backups here. Uh in this inside run droll, 10 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: maybe you're trying to show uh, okay, fellas, Oh, I 11 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: think that's exactly what's going on. We saw a whole 12 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: lot of who wants it here? While people were gone. 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: We saw a whole lot of one on ones and 14 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 1: the offense winning, which they should win more in that 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: case without there's no pass rush. We get all that, 16 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: but the first week camp they weren't winning any of those. Right, 17 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: that's the time to change the little bit. And now 18 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: it looks like these are all but I guess to 19 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: put it mildly, the bottom of the roster guys out 20 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: there on both sides of the ball running live action here. 21 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: I mean, they're tackling. This is full blown scrimmage, you know, 22 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: and I don't think t is a factor. He's hard 23 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: to bring down though. I mean he is a physical, big, 24 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: strong dude. I wish he had more wiggle. But this 25 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: is interesting to right, right, right, you know, but this 26 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: is interesting to me. These are all the borderline dudes 27 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: given everything they got playing eleven on eleven. Yeah, absolutely, 28 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: So she's getting to see a little bit of live 29 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: action here again after these guys just played a game 30 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: the other day. Um so some of these guys did 31 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: play some snap too, and we're seeing I mean it's 32 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: essentially the second team offensive line, um, Rudolphs behind center, 33 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: I mean, some of the down the line receivers, and 34 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: I assume it's run only it's right, yeah, pretty much right. 35 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: They threw every once in a while. This just to 36 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: keep on this, but this is a team run drill. Yep, 37 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: that's what it is. And there hasn't been a special 38 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: team period yet. You know, I guess Danny's getting the 39 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: short end of the stick on that one. But his 40 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: his units performed quite well. Yeah, he gets too again, 41 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: he gets too per practice. That's you know, we're only 42 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: an hour in point. The next the next segment will 43 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: be a special teams segment, not even will be interesting 44 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: here because you know that it's getting competitive. Now, okay, 45 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: now we get the ones in there for the offense 46 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: against well, I guess the ones against the defense are 47 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: other than Twist out there. So this is one versus 48 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: one Ivan Cam Heyward's up there, yeah right right, this 49 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: is yeah t J. Watters out there. That's just flipping 50 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: it around. I guess let the twos go first, and 51 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: the inside linebackers here are Miles Jack and Robert Spillane. 52 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: So how about that. Yeah, okay, Chase Claypool emotion a 53 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: little hand off there, that is Nagy Harris and I 54 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: think they were alive. They're not gonna it's live, but 55 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: not quite that right, And he had a nice stiff 56 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: arm there, but the defender was but still I couldn't 57 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: see him carry the ball. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, I think 58 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: this is It's not get to like, I don't think 59 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: they're cutting Cam Heyward or you know, no, I mean 60 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: I'm certain or not. Probably keep that seven right. Um. Yeah, 61 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: so we get uh, let's see a big, heavy personnel 62 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: and this is a heavy run personnelity got three tight 63 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: ends on the field and this where would be where 64 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 1: you would use Roberts Pelaine. Yeah, yeah, I he's in 65 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: my doghouse. I hate to say it. I just don't 66 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: mind too, but I just don't see a use anymore. 67 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: And and maybe that means finding somebody else out there. 68 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: And I'm not talking like trade the world for Rokalan Smith, 69 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: but maybe find an NFL linebacker. But they've been down 70 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: that road a lot, and it's not as easy to 71 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: find as you think that or you know, give Joe 72 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: Schobert signed with them. Okay, now now they got bushed 73 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: back out there, so I mean there again, this is 74 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: what they've done pretty consistently throughout this whole process. Is 75 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: those two have rotating quite a bit. Um two Bush 76 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: does on that. Yeah, let's let's isolate on Bush. He's out. 77 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: He's out there with Miles Jack hard to say from 78 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: our viewpoint to attackle line of scrimmage, and it looked 79 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: like you'd have been involved in the tackle. But they 80 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: need to pull up. Yeah, they're just better as the 81 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: one should. So yeah, I don't know. I mean that 82 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: that's gonna be an interesting discussion here. I think this 83 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: week's game will be much bigger in that whole Bush 84 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: linebackers conversation. Talking about again, I find it hard to 85 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: judge the guy based on playing behind back up. You're 86 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: never going to see a situation in a regular season, 87 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: for an example, and if you do, it's going to 88 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: be disaster anyways where you're gonna have five backups in 89 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: front of him. In terms of the defensive line, the 90 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: outside linebackers, it's just not gonna happened. And I think 91 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: Seattle's O line will be one of the worst in 92 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: the league. But that was still their ones. I mean 93 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: that too. I mean, Charles cross is a ninth pick 94 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: in the draft. He's out, you know, I mean really, 95 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: you know you had you had Chris Wormley out there? 96 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: Uh Mandus, you're starting notes Mondu is at the nose. 97 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: Theydn't even have Adams. You mean, how much her Mondo 98 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: is even a nose? You know, let alone, you're starting nose. 99 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: And I thought louder Milk played fine, and I thought 100 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: Warmley was okay, you know, I mean so, but there 101 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: you're not gonna have too many situations, especially on rundowns. 102 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: And those edge guys, those top three avery did play either, 103 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: They're just not going to be out there that together. 104 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: I hear you, and but i've excuses are the want 105 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: wrong word. But I'm I'm i'm out of well he 106 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: should if this were around him better, he'd be better, 107 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: you know, like you started linebacker, you know, you can 108 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: start elevating and you know, beaten blocks and all that. 109 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: But we'll see. I'm I'm more worried about Splaine, to 110 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: be very honest with you, I I worry if Splane 111 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: is worthy of a roster spot, to be very honesty, 112 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: is back today. Yeah that's good. Not a lot of 113 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: healthy guys here, could you know it? Avery, Bi a 114 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: guy he has to stay healthy first of all. Yeah, 115 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: as you were going with this as an inside guy, yeah, 116 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: potentially potentially Yeah, I mean you know, if this, if 117 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: this continues to get down this road, I wouldn't mind 118 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: taking a look at him in there. Yeah, taking a 119 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: look I think would be fine. Um. I would maybe 120 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 1: even give him some reps like like we've so often 121 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: seen with Splane. Like while we were break, they lined 122 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: up McFarland in the slot against Splane and he ran 123 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: a go route from and it was non as soon 124 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: as the ball was snapped. That's a lost. Yeah, But 125 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: I wonder how would have Avery fits. You know, I 126 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: know Bush would have fared better, but I don't. I 127 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: wonder how Avery would have fared. You know, that would 128 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: be interesting. I mean a lot of a lot of 129 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: linebackers are gonna struggle with that. That's just brutal. I mean, 130 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: I get that, but it wasn't competitive, you know, a 131 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: second into the play, you know. Yeah, So you know, 132 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: there's still a lot of stuff like that that has 133 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: to be to die here. But that's why they do 134 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: this stuff. And I'm not convinced that they're completely done 135 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: with it. With any moves that they might make this year, Um, 136 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: you know, so there's a possibility that something else could 137 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: be done there. With that, I would certainly have an 138 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: eye open for any available offensive lineman, at least just 139 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: to throw them in the mix. Um. I'm pretty happy 140 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: at the running backs though. I think they're loaded that 141 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: That's one thing is when we started training camp and 142 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: I think we were all like, Okay, they could use 143 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: a veteran back. Yeah, right now I don't feel that way. 144 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: I'm I don't want to let go of the guys. 145 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: You'd have to let go to make that happen. And 146 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: they're young and cheap there, and I want to see 147 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: what they can do. Um, they're loaded at tight end 148 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: and receiver. Yeah, there's no room for anybody else there. 149 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: So that's that's the end of the offense. Defensively, they're 150 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: loaded at the line. I've heard some people say, boy, 151 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: they should be in the market for another corner. I 152 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: don't see that. Every team the league says they could 153 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: use tackles and corners. I can get that, you know, 154 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: but I think they're fine a corner. I don't. I 155 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: think I can live with Pierre and Milette. And I mean, 156 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: I think they got guys there. They're deep at safety, 157 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: so I think the secondary is in pretty good shape. Um, 158 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: I would consider an edge guy, and I would absolutely 159 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: consider an off the ball linebacker. Yeah, edge is one 160 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: that I would definitely look at. After watching that game 161 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: the other night, I don't know. And again we you know, 162 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: we didn't see Nard Avery in that one, right, and 163 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: he's not he can't fix everything, and I don't know 164 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: that there have been dramatically better if he were out there, right, 165 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: And but Toushka and uh what's his face? And the 166 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: other dude that started. I didn't think we're impressive and 167 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: I can. I don't mind keeping one of the two. 168 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 1: I don't want both the two, you know what I mean. 169 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: I hear you, I hear you, and I do. You know. 170 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: My big concern with the Lante Scott is would he 171 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: hold up in the run game? And well, the answer 172 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: was no. The answer was no, and he got washed 173 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: out a lot. He looks like a basketball player and 174 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: he played outside linebacker like a basketball player. He did, 175 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: and he's really lean from the shoulders down, you know, 176 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: his lower bodies thin, and he kind of played that way. 177 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: You know, he did not hold the point at all. 178 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: He did not force things outside and even worse, he 179 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: got washed down, which just created a hole. And that 180 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: does make it tough on the bushes of the world. 181 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: And you know, we're commending guys like Witherspoon for coming 182 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: up and making big tackles. Well he shouldn't have to, though. Yeah, 183 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: that's the inside and supposed to your hunter ninety pound 184 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: corner coming up and have to make that play. Yeah 185 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: he is. Matt Williamson, I am Dale Lalli. You're listening 186 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN 187 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: nine seventy. We are live at Steelers training camp. Steelers 188 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: going through a little uh, a little special teams action 189 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 1: here today and um Matt were surprised it that they 190 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: didn't use either of their quote unquote starting specialists the 191 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: other day. It's funny you just ask that because I 192 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: was about to ask you that is I was gonna 193 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: phrase the two ways was with these cuts coming tomorrow? Right? Yeah? 194 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: Do you think that the kicker and punter from yester 195 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: from Saturday are amongst those cuts? They could be. Yeah, 196 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: but you know that's an easy one. You still don't. 197 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: I think you hold onto those guys till the end. 198 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: Do you want Bobs swinging his leg that many times 199 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: in the third week of the preseason? You want him 200 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: out there? Have you know? You don't. You don't want 201 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: Boswell or you don't want harvn out there trying to 202 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: tackle somebody in the in the third week of the preseason. 203 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: It's my point, you can just tell him if you're 204 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: Mike Tom and hey, don't don't run away. Sometimes the 205 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: competitive you know, the competitive nature takes in. You know, 206 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: you just kinda find yourself going out there to try 207 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: to make a play. My take on what they did 208 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: on Saturday with the specialists are. We knew Boswall as 209 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: a kicker, but Harvin's also the puter foes, you know, Like, 210 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: I don't think there's a competition here. They just have 211 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: camp legs in town, you know, for now. But I 212 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: also think it goes a long way behind the scenes 213 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: doing what they did. And explain that for a second 214 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: here is it makes it more attractive to bring in 215 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: other camp legs when you tell those two young men, 216 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna kick everyone in these games, and you're gonna 217 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: actually have tape for the rest of the league to watch, 218 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: you know, Like, whoever's looking for kickers and punters aren't 219 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: watching the Steelers practice tape. They don't have much to 220 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: go off of. And that might be the CFL or 221 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: the XFL or whatever league out there. So hey, thanks 222 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: for coming to camp. We knew you weren't gonna beat 223 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: up Boswell no matter what. You knew that when you signed. 224 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: You knew that when you signed, But we made you 225 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: a promise that we're going to get you some some 226 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: game tape. And you've been a trooper and will help 227 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: you the best we can, and anyone the calls will 228 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: give you a positive recommendation, and if by chance disaster 229 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: strikes your b off, first call and we'll bring it 230 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: right back in. Thanks for the time and that and 231 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: that helps you with the next guy and that guy's 232 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: agent with other other positions. And to me, it's a 233 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: a classy and gentleman thing to do to give those 234 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: guys at least a game, to show the world that they, 235 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 1: you know, they belong. That's what I think of when 236 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: I think of Danny Smith. Classy and a gentleman. I 237 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: was thinking of the organization as a whole, but those 238 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: those two words described Danny Smith as well. Uh yeah, 239 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: So I think that's you know, that's why people were 240 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: wondering about that. Um, you know why they did that. 241 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: That's why you taking care of a couple of guys 242 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: that because you probably let you probably let Boswald and 243 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: harv and kick this week and then next week you 244 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: just say, you know what, we don't need to see 245 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: that anymore. We don't need to get those guys hurt. 246 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: Because part of me thought, well, you could get rid 247 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: of those two guys as one of your five cuts, 248 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: but I would rather cut a safety and tell your 249 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: safety coach you don't have to coach him anymore. You 250 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: know what, I mean, it's great having you here, but 251 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: the linebacker there's no chance to make the team or 252 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: the offensive line. Coaches got seven ten guys. Guys should 253 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 1: have a lot on their plate, and these young guys 254 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: are trying to do everything they can to impress. But 255 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: it makes the team efficiency easier if he's not here, 256 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: you know, like beat it so I can spend ten 257 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: minutes more day on the starters or whatever, you know 258 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: what I mean. So that would make more sense, I 259 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: guess than ditching the kickers. At this point, it's gonna 260 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: be I mean, there's cutting this roster. I gotta go 261 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: through this and do this sometime this week. Uh, it's 262 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: not gonna be easy. No, not at all. You get 263 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: into this. Yeah, sometimes you get into this whole thing 264 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: and and you start looking in like the final fifty 265 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: eight were you were worse. Yet you have a final 266 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: forty five. That's a bad thing. I don't think that's 267 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: the case. I just think so either. I mean, I 268 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: think we could maybe make the case. I don't know 269 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: what to think about the old line, but are I mean, 270 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: I know that the glues of the world are gonna 271 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: make it. And I thought he played pretty well. Um, 272 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: but they keep an old lineman that shouldn't be around. 273 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: I don't know any other position where I would think 274 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: that's even a possibility. No, I don't. I don't know either. Um, 275 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: maybe an edge guy. I mean, if the two starters 276 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: from Saturday's game we're both on this team, that wouldn't 277 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: make me super excited, right right? I mean? And plus, 278 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: with the huge practice squads, you could keep a guy 279 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: like you know, fifty or whom ever too on anybody's 280 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: grabbing him. Yeah, more of this has been a popular 281 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: drill too. This is just a beat a dummy to 282 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 1: one side, beat him to the other with rip moves. 283 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: That's gonna be That's gonna be me beating you and 284 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: our fantasy football league beating the dummy. Funny. I think 285 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: that that's luring you into my trap. You're gonna regret 286 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: the day you made that invitation. I can promise you 287 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: that we'll have fun with that all year long, though, 288 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: but we'll fun with the night after. If you've ever 289 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: just to what we need to do is like we're 290 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: gonna do our Matt and are gonna be in the 291 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: same fantasy football league this year for the first time. 292 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: First time I ever competed in. What we need to 293 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: do is go somewhere when we're doing our draft, and 294 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: I we're gonna do the draft online because we get 295 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: guys in various different places. I haven't spoke up about that, 296 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: but I I'm not a fan of it, but well 297 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: I'm not either. However, it sounds like it's taking place 298 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: in the morning during Labor Day weekend. That's not my 299 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: strong in term of drafting time. We might have to 300 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: talk about that, but we're gonna have to talk with that. 301 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: That gives you guys a much better chance of winning 302 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: the league. If I'm picking any time before one pm 303 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: on Labor Day weekend. I was gonna say, I was 304 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: gonna say, maybe we have to get together for a 305 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: dull beverage or two while we do our draft. Be 306 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: fine with me. You will be Wednesday night, Thursday night, whatever, 307 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: but not that weekend, and anything early that weekend more 308 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: particularly late, would really favor you guys. Look into that 309 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: however you'd like, But it's a very fun weekend for 310 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: me and my bud. That was for your main league. 311 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: That's I think it's our twenty fifth anniversary this year. 312 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: That's our high school league, and people come in from 313 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: Minnesota and Jacksonville and from all over a week, good 314 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: time go to Deep Creek. This is the twenty ninth year, 315 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: is it for the O r fbl Okay, So there 316 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: you have it. We still call it the O r 317 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: fbl Observe Reporter Fantasy Football League, but most of us 318 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: are no longer like there can't be employees at this point. 319 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: There's no employees left there, so a lot of the 320 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: guys are former employees there. And well, and then I 321 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: invited you in and Chris Carter's in it as well. 322 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: About the rock with cry Salarkey, So yeah, it could 323 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: be the d k PS Football League. Right, we're taking 324 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: it over. But when I start winning it, I'll name 325 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: it myself. I have won it like six times and 326 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: I'm the winningest team and in the league history. I'm 327 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: like the I'm like your Salis Cowboys that the Steelers 328 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: for that matter. We'll see, we're gonna have fun with this. 329 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: We'll keep you all updated as the draft goes down. 330 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: And we're in the same division too. I don't think 331 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: that was an accident by them, Yeah right, just the Hunts. 332 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: They put us in the same So we'll play one 333 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: to plan twice good, good, that's gonna sell out. That's 334 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: that's a home in a way play one in yeah, 335 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: because that's they're going quick. Steelers still going through some 336 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: special teams practices are I like this little drill here 337 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: where they have a guy running with the football and 338 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: they come up and and and players come up behind 339 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: him and try to basically you're working on stripping the 340 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: football here, poking it out from different angles from behind, 341 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: you know, right right right, just kind of I don't 342 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: know how to really describe it, but they get the 343 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: like I assume of a turn man, and they don't 344 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 1: come from much distance, but they have to beat one 345 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: block or go around and find the football. And then 346 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: once you break it out to you got to pick 347 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:30,719 Speaker 1: it up and scoop and score too. So I mean 348 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: there's you know, there's some practice to that. There's also 349 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: some randomness to that too. Once the ball comes out, 350 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: it's hard to predict. But I do think that uh 351 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: scooping and scoring has some value. But it's always yeah, 352 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,479 Speaker 1: it's always good to to uh to practice. The Heyward, 353 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: by the way, not only bash it out, but he 354 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: kind of stripped it and took it to the house. Himself. 355 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: Heyward's gonna be a core special team or huh, yeah, 356 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,239 Speaker 1: I think so. And my doubts are questions. I mean, 357 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: I just didn't know, but it sure looks like he's 358 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: passing that test just a football player. So do we 359 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: know Snells making this team? I don't know that we 360 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: do now. I didn't love the usage if I were 361 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: justin Lane either. You know, I'm thinking some of the 362 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: core special teamers Killerbrew didn't play. Um, if if where 363 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: I'm going with this is if Hayward, potentially boy Kin, 364 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: absolutely Gunner, Like, who are the core special teamers this year? 365 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: Won't be Gilbert? Yeah? You know right, So that that's 366 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: a change the big question some Yeah, I mean Derek 367 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: Watt'll be there, but who's the carry over from last year? 368 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: If Lane and maybe Snell and Gilbert are not you 369 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: know yeah, I mean it could change, and that does 370 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: change from year to year. Um, but we're gonna take 371 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: another break. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolllett. 372 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. 373 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: We are live from Steelers training camp here at Saint 374 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: Vincent College in beautiful Late Trobe, Pennsylvania, it's a cool 375 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: windy it is. It is cool today, I'm sure, Mike Tom, 376 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: I'm not liking this. But the offense and defensive windows 377 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: taking the field here, Uh, looks like maybe a little 378 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: first down work here. Uh runner pass where they have 379 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: the sticks out there? Yeah, I get the sticks throwing. 380 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: So this is a little third down work here. So yeah, 381 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: one out there and right absolutely so we're gonna take 382 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: a break. We'll be back with more right after this. 383 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 384 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 1: you home of the Black and Gold, Steelers Nation Radio. 385 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolley. He is Matt Williamson. 386 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: We are the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio and 387 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: ESPN NY. We are live from Steelers training camp here 388 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: at St. Pncent College in the Trope, the only place 389 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: on your radio don or podcasting for that matter, where 390 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: you can get live coverage of the Steelers training camp 391 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: practices here as they take place at St. Pncent College. 392 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: We're almost done here, Matt, wrapping up good pace today too. Yeah, um, 393 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: not necessarily done for today's show, but done in st. 394 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: At Saint Vincent College. Oh, I thought you meant for 395 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: today's practice here almost a month. Yea, yeah, the majority 396 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: of the three weeks here. By the time we're done 397 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: three weeks in a couple of days, but boy, it's 398 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: been a time flies. Yeah, I love it when we're 399 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 1: out here, and a lot of good work done. By 400 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: the time it's over, I'm pretty much ready to go 401 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: back home and stay. Yeah, I get the same feeling, 402 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: like looked forward to it for years in this case 403 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: not a year, years, and certainly it made it worth 404 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: our time. We've had a lot of good times and 405 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: it's it's a great way to watch a lot of 406 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: football and be close to the team. And then when 407 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: you get to sneak home on the weekend, it's like 408 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: my bed's kind of nuts, and I like my lazy 409 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: boy and you know where I know where everything right 410 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: right right, you know, clean clothes and you know things 411 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: like that. I don't have to hang out with Lolly 412 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: a lot of that. Guy still keeps texting me. But 413 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: we have a couple more evenings here in full day. 414 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: Is that I am absolutely looking forward to it, and 415 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: then I'll be very happy as the players will be 416 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: to uh retired to my humble abode for the rest 417 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: of the season. I would imagine. Yeah, Steelers still doing 418 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: a little third down work here. Mason Rudolph rolls to 419 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: his uh left and gets the ball out and got 420 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: it out there. Yeah, got it on time. Isn't super pretty, 421 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: but for a first round to uh that was? They 422 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: still just uh Javon McKinley on this roster that I 423 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: have here, And that's not Javon McKinley. I'm not sure 424 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: who that is. People, I have a this is a 425 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: roster that I got from the Steeler's media room today. 426 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: Is it today as Javon McKinley. I like, update your stuff, guys, 427 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: Tomorrow we'll know who that is. Um. I. I know 428 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: no one cares about our plates and I wouldn't trade 429 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: jobs for anybody. But I don't know if you find 430 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: the same way, but time management in Latrobe is harder 431 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: for me than it is at home. Yeah. Look, I 432 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: just kind of standing up here, Matt. Is that standing 433 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: up on the end down here? Is that the new 434 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: guy must be that they signed, which makes me think 435 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: that they're not thrilled with the Redge guys either. You know, well, yeah, 436 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: the two is our Kip Skipper was released today, Actually 437 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: injuries settlement released there and that was exciting about him 438 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: when they signed him. Has to be James Fotter, and 439 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: I would imagine that's too nice little get off there. 440 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: But I don't know much about him other than that. UM, 441 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: I think this drill is kind of interesting in that 442 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: you're spreading it out against a lot of defensive backs, 443 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: you know, like early on we saw a Nausey and 444 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: Claypool in the slot with two wide receivers, you know, 445 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,719 Speaker 1: outside of those guys flanking them. UM, a lot of 446 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: spread formations here. You made note, you know, the Steelers 447 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 1: were in dime for a high percentage of these two. 448 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm intrigued with the dime situation. If if I'm right 449 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: that the second inside linebacker is a problem spot weakness 450 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: not strength. However, you want to see as good as 451 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: the six defensive back right right. There's two things I 452 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: would look at it, and that's time, of course, which 453 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:10,239 Speaker 1: is think of it as a four jack six, you know. 454 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: But I also think you could live with a five 455 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: man front jack and five you know, So there's ways. 456 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: I mean, they have a lot of depth on the 457 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: d line, the big people, the two or ninety pluses, 458 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: and they have a lot of depth in the back end, 459 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: So you could still be pretty heavy with your oky front. 460 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: You know, a three man defensive line, two edges in 461 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: a one linebacker and protect him pretty well. Maybe Edmunds 462 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: floats on the box a little more and in five 463 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: defensive backs or a four man front jack and six 464 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: defensive back. So I think they're equipped to do other 465 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: things to make up for the potential deficiencies on the 466 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: second level. Yeah, now we're Yeah, he does. I guess 467 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: some got some first down work going on here. And 468 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: make note that the kelor Weatherspoon is out there today 469 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: after dinging the shoulder up a little bit the other day. 470 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: So it's ones against one's first and ten. Watching Spoon 471 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: when that happened, I was like, oh, I wonder if 472 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: that was a collar bone or something, But it was not. 473 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: Robert Spilin out there in this situation next to Miles change. 474 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: If they throw at him, yeah, they're throwing it right 475 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: over his head. Sucked him in and threw it over 476 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: his head. The ball wasn't complete, there was slightly off, 477 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: wasn't the best round ball, But that's exactly what they 478 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: That's exactly what they did. Yeah, So ones versus ones, 479 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: your edge guys are twistca and what tis what? Okay, 480 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: it looks like what's Highsmith story that you know of. Ah, 481 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: he had ribs, a ribb injury late last week, so 482 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: that's why he is not out there, But no reason 483 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: to reason to rush it. But I don't know I 484 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: play him against Jacksonville either, but right because they need 485 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 1: him to be solid though, Yeah, right, do you need 486 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: to still figure this figure out this whole backup edge 487 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: thing and so getting those guys some work or not. 488 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: Not the worst thing in the world. That was nice 489 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: cut back by Nagy. He just as good as the 490 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: other backs. Look, he looks a lot different. He's just 491 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: so big and physical and decisive and you know, yeah, 492 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: and nice holder on the left side. It was it was, yeah, 493 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: that was all done. They kind of caved in that 494 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: like he but he didn't have to cut back to 495 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: leave his three yards down fielding in the right point, 496 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: So I still got the ones in there. Naugy taking 497 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 1: that all the way down As running backs, you know, 498 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: fans used to go crazy about that he'd run all 499 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: the way down. No, that's not the ninety yard run. 500 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: That's what they tell the running backs that do take 501 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: it to all the way to the house, get your 502 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: cardio in. Yeah, you know, so we got uh Trabiski 503 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: in the shotgun. Here, we're seeing a lot of Claypool in. Okay, 504 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: now that was that was a little awkward. Yeah, because 505 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: Claypool from the slot. I don't think he did exactly 506 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: what it was because they're sitting there chatting about it now, 507 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: Like I think trabisk is telling him he screwed that up. 508 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 1: I think he's supposed to. I'm across like a jet 509 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: sweep formation and he kind of he motioned into the play, 510 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: which is kind of interfered with the handoff. Someone screwed 511 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: up there. I assume it was Claypool because Drabiski's coaching. Yeah, 512 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: I mean he missed some time timing on that. Sus 513 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: gonna be a little off. You note your system here, Yeah, 514 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: but you know, I still I guess Kendrick Green had 515 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: some kind of hand issue there. They've taped him up 516 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: and he is back out like Kevin Dotson's out, but 517 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: Green has been back out there. I think that should 518 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: remain a competition. After watching that game, I thought Green 519 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: was running away with it. Maybe I'm overreacting and I'll 520 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: change my tomb after watching the coaches day. He played badly. 521 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 1: His length worried me and in protection a little bit. 522 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: But he does move and run a lot better than Dotson, 523 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: who I was just focusing on. In that play, he 524 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: set up real mice in protection on the screen, runs 525 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: out to hit a linebacker and he ran well, he 526 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 1: was aggressive, I'm talking about Dotson, and he kind of 527 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: fell in his face. He's trying to hit a little 528 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: guy that's real active and joked them a little. He 529 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: got out in over his skis and it ended up 530 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: on the ground, you know. And it's not what you 531 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: want either. Green wouldn't ended up on the ground there, 532 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: right right, Yes, I mean, that's just the difference between 533 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: the two. You're you're going to get the better size 534 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 1: Green back in there now. So yeah, again I'm not 535 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: picking on Green, but my concern with them is I 536 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: saw a little bit in the Seattle game was just 537 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: guys getting in protection, guys getting their hands with their 538 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: long arms on him before he was getting their hands 539 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: on them. And Thoughtson's bigger, longer, you know, I mean, 540 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: and Dootson is a pretty good protector. Yeah, he's not 541 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: as good in space or running or you know, getting 542 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: down field and he's you know, missing that much time, 543 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: and now we get to help him. Now we've got 544 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: the two's in there and Green is in there again. 545 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I guess they're you know, they're 546 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: leaving that all open there and you you want to 547 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: put your best guy out there. Yeah, and you know, 548 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: Dotson missed a lot of time him, He's missed a 549 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: lot of times since he's been a Steeler. That's been right. 550 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: I mean I've been behind the scenes. They're like, sure, 551 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: we like him, but I need a can we trust 552 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: him the best ability is available? And especially guard I 553 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: mean guards, not a flashy spot. I need a guys 554 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: gonna go out there with one arm, you know, one leg, whatever, 555 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: and just get the job done. You know, I just 556 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: need to. I'm not implying the guy's not tough or anything, 557 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: but go out there, snap after snap and play seventeen 558 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: games and if you're not at your best, got through 559 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,959 Speaker 1: it and go be a guard and get paid. You know, 560 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: I know, talking to him earlier in this camp, um, 561 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: you know, first of all, they weren't super pleased that 562 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: he missed the last seven regular season games. In the 563 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: playoff game, with with a high ankle spring. Um, you know, 564 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: they tried to get him back. If I'm trying to 565 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: remember correctly here, there was about five or six weeks 566 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: into that thing. Um, you know you started seeing seeing 567 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: him try to do some stuff, and then they shut 568 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: him back down again and he took. One of the 569 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: things he talked about early in camp here was, um, 570 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: it's nice for yeah Pickett rolling through his right. One 571 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: of the things he talked about he being thoughts and 572 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: was that he didn't necessarily understand rehabbing. Like his his 573 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: idea of rehabbing was going home and laying in bed. 574 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: That's not I guarantee you that's not the Steelers doctor's 575 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: idea of rehab. I'm sure it's not. And this is 576 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: more of my college experience and many moons ago. But 577 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: there's nothing teams, doctors, coaching staffs hate more than taking 578 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: your rehab lightly or you know, I mean that was 579 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: the most punishable of offenses, is not showing up to 580 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: rehab because it's selfish. You know, you're hurting the team. 581 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: And maybe he just didn't understand, you know, I mean, 582 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: I get that maybe his college or whatever wasn't stressing 583 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: it the same way they do here. Maybe he's just 584 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: never hurt, you never heard, never had to deal with it, 585 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,479 Speaker 1: or you know, everyone deals with injuries different or you know, 586 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: but treatments unbelievably important to the staff, and if you 587 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: go against that in any way, you very quickly end 588 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: up in the doghouse. Yeah. And one thing that did 589 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: also still doubt to me, mett Um in that game 590 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: against the Seahawks, the second team line. It wasn't bad. 591 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: I didn't think so either. I thought Leglue was a 592 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: quality player. Um, Haig was pretty good. He's he's a 593 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: much better game player than he is in practice. Yeah, 594 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: he's not. That just happens with some guys. I remember 595 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: saying with Haig, if on game day he's my seventh 596 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,479 Speaker 1: guy in the lineup, I'm pretty comfortable with it. If 597 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: he's my sixth, I don't like it. But every time 598 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: he gets in is the sixth he does find, you know, 599 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: and that's gold in this league. I'd love to see 600 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: them find another tackle or you know, a third round 601 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: project to be here as well. There that guy doesn't 602 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: exist at this point. I can live with Joe Haigan 603 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: tackle though I can live with them a guard, and 604 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: I think he's valuable. Yeah, he's just a valuable swing guy. Uh, 605 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: you know, being around the block. I mean he's a 606 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: lot better than Scott and Green and those guys to me, Yeah, absolutely, 607 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: I agree. Um so yeah, that's one thing to keep 608 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: an eye on here is is this continues to develop 609 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: your right I thought the second team line gave him 610 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: a pretty good chance to to work the offense. Yeah, 611 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: Mason let him well there on that one he did. Yeah, 612 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: turned deads. That's the thing that you often see, like 613 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: if you're able to um lead, to lead the guys. 614 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,479 Speaker 1: So the run after the catch, it's huge. Yeah, very important. 615 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: Laid out there there, there's no safety help there, just 616 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: right out there and let him run after the catch. 617 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: I mean, that's so huge in today's NFL. And a 618 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: lot of it stems from the Shanahan stuff, but a 619 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: lot of that is play action boom, hit a guy 620 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: in stride, make a play after you know, if you 621 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: can suck those linebackers in just a step. A lot 622 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: of that's designed from the pre snap stuff too, or 623 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: you know, directly post snap with the play action. And 624 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: I really think that's a picket strength is accuracy hitting 625 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: guys on the move in stride. That was rude off 626 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: with that one. It was a nice throw. Another decent 627 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: throw of the outside. Yeah, hitting the quarter hitting the 628 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: receiver right as soon as he comes out of his break. 629 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: That's that's trusting the receiver to It's night and day, Dale, 630 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: than when we got here. The quarterback throwing, I mean 631 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: just the throws they're making. They're not my homes Josh 632 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: Allen throws, I mean Herbert, I mean Ben and his prime. 633 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: But the ball's coming out so much better and so 634 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: much at more accurate and knowing your receivers and understanding 635 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: the speed and tempo you're playing with. And you know, 636 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: I was really impressed. But with pickett Is particularly in 637 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: the game the most the thing I've been most critical 638 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: of him is holds them all too long in practice 639 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: and you know hear Tom and yelling at him in 640 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: the game. That wasn't the case. I mean today, it's 641 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: not the case. I think that there's guys will come 642 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: a long way and just understanding the speed of the game. Yeah, 643 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: I agree, So look look pretty good there. Um we're 644 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: gonna take another break. He is Matt Williamson, I am 645 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: Dale Lally, you're listening to the Drive here on Steelers 646 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy. We are live from 647 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: Steelers training camp. Steelers are starting to do a some 648 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: more a little more special teams drill here. Uh. They'll 649 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,959 Speaker 1: have two periods and after this, so uh, we got 650 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: a little bit more of practice to go here. Yeah, 651 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,719 Speaker 1: we'll be back to a cover more of that when 652 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: we return right after these messages at least. He's the 653 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on your home 654 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: of the Black and Gold, Steelers Nation Radio. M Welcome back. 655 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm Dale Alley here with Matt Williamson. We are live 656 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: from Steelers training camp practice here at St. Vincent College 657 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: and met decent crowd here today for a kind of 658 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: a chili August it is. We got a little bit 659 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: of a wind, you know. I mean it is a 660 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: little chili. It feels like we could have some rain 661 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: or thunderstorm. That was recorded earlier than I'd knows, But 662 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: a lot of enthusiasm around this team, with the fan 663 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: base and nuke orderbacks just a different feel and I 664 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: think we really saw that Saturday and we're seeing it 665 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: here today. Yeah. I wonder if if the perception of 666 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: the Steeler's offense changed it all. I think nationally from 667 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: after seeing that one, but I think locally, I think 668 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: locally it did for sure. Yeah, I understand it's one preseason. 669 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you know all that much, right, right, 670 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: that's right, right? I mean when they still look at 671 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: each one of those individual performances and the performance as 672 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: a whole, and there was a lot of positive and 673 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people, I don't know if 674 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: it's true, but I think a lot of people expected 675 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: that game to be a disaster. Can't block anybody in 676 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks and over their head, you know, none of 677 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: the stars are playing, it's not going to go well. Well, 678 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: everything went pretty well. Yeah, to our the point a buy, 679 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: I mean, Steelers room for a hundred and eighty five 680 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: yards in that game. Yeah, I mean right, And it 681 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: wasn't all junk time or whatever. You know, there was 682 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 1: a lot of big chunk runs. Uh. As you often 683 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: say that the quarterbacks attributing a few yards here and there, 684 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: it goes a long way over the course of a 685 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: game or the course of a season in terms of 686 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: you know, running numbers. And I think we'll get that 687 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: time and time again. Uh. I like their backs. McFarland 688 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: to me and un I keep preating his name. We've've 689 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: been talking about for three weeks now, we've talked about that, 690 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: and for some reason I can can't remember his name today. UM. 691 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: Mixed in there are quality players and again I think 692 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: Snell might need to be a little worried. Yeah, I 693 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: would be if I was him as well, I would 694 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: you know, he's not practicing today. If I were Benny Snell, 695 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: I would be like, Okay, I gotta get back out 696 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: on the phone. I understand the difference between being you know, 697 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: if you're hurt, you're hurt. If you're injured, you're injured. 698 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: I get that. UM also saw Mateo Durant work his 699 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,439 Speaker 1: way back in here. I was kind of surprised because 700 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: he didn't practice all last week after Monday and after 701 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: getting his bell run, we saw him out there. They 702 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: were a little short at the running back position because 703 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just getting a shot. Yeah, so that 704 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: was that was good to see. Again, they were short 705 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: at the wide receiver position as well because injuries there. 706 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: And we saw some guys you mentioned early in the show, 707 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: Gunneralschewski showing up, Uh Tyler Vaughan's with the touchdown catch. 708 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 1: These are guys that you know, this is a deep 709 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 1: position here. I thought Miles Boykin had a nice catch 710 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: there on the one where he kind of used his 711 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: big frame to the you know, box out the the 712 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: It was basically a quick slanter, a little uh button 713 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,919 Speaker 1: hook there and he used his body to frame out 714 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: the the defensive back. So they've got some guys there 715 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: that can make these these tough positions to cut. And 716 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 1: you can make the argument that they didn't have their 717 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: top two tight ends, top two running backs, top two 718 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: wide receivers, as well as Austin and Miller who were 719 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: I don't know their fourth and fifth receiver, you know, 720 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: something like that. And I didn't think that any of 721 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 1: those positions they looked thin. No, not at all, which 722 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: is kind of remarkable. You know where outside linebacker was thin? Yeah, 723 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You know so, I mean 724 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 1: most spots would be thin. Whenever you're at you're that 725 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: lean in terms of top two being out at a 726 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: tight end, or top four of your top six a receiver, 727 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: top two at running back. The guys they tried it 728 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: out there were good players. Yeah, absolutely, I mean I 729 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,959 Speaker 1: think that they you know, NFL type players, So um yeah, 730 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: I mean this is gonna be a difficult team to cut. 731 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: As I mentioned, I'll probably give a shot, give it 732 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: a shot that later this week, I don't end it. 733 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 1: That's gonna be a little bit difficult, and it's not 734 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,439 Speaker 1: gonna be as easy as it is some other years, 735 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: that's sure. And I don't want to overreact to just 736 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: one game because I didn't have these thoughts three or 737 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: four days ago. If I'm putting together a final roster 738 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: right now, I don't know that Snell and Spillane and 739 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: both those edge guys are on it, you know, like 740 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: some people I thought were pretty safe, I feel less 741 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 1: comfortable about now. Yeah. Yeah, and we'll see. I mean 742 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: I think, you know, again, this weekend's game Saturday in 743 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: Jacksonville will go a long way towards that as well. 744 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: Uh what did you see out of guys like Buddy 745 00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: Johnson and Mark Robinson. I thought Robinson really struggled or early, 746 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: and he made a big play that kind of saved 747 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: his day. Um that didn't worry me much. My thoughts 748 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: on Robinson or this is I would would need to 749 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: isolate him more. Johnson, I mean not. I think I 750 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 1: said Robinson. Buddy is who I'm talking about now. Is 751 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: when I previewed the game, I said something along the 752 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 1: lines of, I want Buddy Johnson to be the preseason 753 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: defensive player of the game and the defensive player of 754 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: the of the whole preest. He needs to lead the 755 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,760 Speaker 1: team and tackles. He needs to be on the field 756 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 1: extensively every second half. He needs to look like a 757 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: professional player playing against accountants. I haven't seen that. I 758 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 1: haven't seen that. Yeah, it was one game. I don't 759 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,359 Speaker 1: know how many snaps he played and was all said 760 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: and done either, I'd have to look into that. But 761 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to see him showing up like Gilbert used 762 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 1: to in the preseason, you know, like making plays and 763 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: you know, being the best athlete out there in a way. 764 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: And I can't say we've seen that. For someone that's 765 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: been on this team as long as he has, I 766 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: feel like I don't know any more about him than 767 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: when he got drafted out A and N. Yeah, very 768 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 1: little compared to everyone else that's been here, you know. Yeah, 769 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 1: that's fair. We get some one on you know, got 770 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,479 Speaker 1: some one on ones going on between the offensive line 771 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: and the defensive line on the other field over there 772 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: on this side we get the seven on sevens. Uh 773 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: So we're starting to this will be the second to 774 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: the last, the penultimate period here back to Buddy real 775 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: quick and I guess Robinson too a lesser degree, but 776 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 1: he's been here at a year young lesson. He's a 777 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 1: lesser draft pick. I feel like considering and I'm a 778 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: picking on Bush necessarily, but there's opportunity for a player 779 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: like that to step up, and if they don't in 780 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: terms of usage general conversation around the team. People we 781 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: talked to, especially you Tomlin, mentioning it, that would worry 782 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: me a little bit, you know what I mean. We 783 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: know how this works. If there's an opportunity, someone should 784 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 1: step up and take it. If nobody is, well, there's 785 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: a reason for that too. Yeah. Um. And and the 786 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: same thing you know with with with the Devin Bush 787 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: Roberts plain thing. Um. I'll be honest, you know, when 788 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: people have asked me about Bush out here, I haven't 789 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: noticed him in the same way. I don't have a 790 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 1: great answer like, oh, he's been great, or he is 791 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 1: no clue he's doing or he can't move. We just 792 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: have we haven't seen a splash plays at all from him. 793 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 1: That's I can live with him. Maybe not being the 794 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: best run defender if he makes some splash plays here 795 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: and there for me, yeah yeah, or even not being 796 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 1: the most consistent player top to bottom, but if he 797 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 1: makes two plays a game, they looks like Devin White 798 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: and flies row all over the White does right right, 799 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 1: consistent big impact players right that whoa look at him? 800 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: Get from sideline to sideline on that one. That's rare. Great, Okay, 801 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 1: that's something. But if it's kind of second level, players 802 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: should show up, you know what I mean? Like that's 803 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 1: almost like saying a running back doesn't really show up. Well, 804 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 1: they should show up all time. You know, the defense 805 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 1: designed for them to make plays. Again, it's early, um, 806 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 1: but that's the of the defenders that are gonna play 807 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 1: a lot of snaps, you know, injuries aside. The second 808 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 1: inside linebacker spot, to me is my biggest worry right now. Yeah, 809 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 1: I agree, starters or the top you know, thirteen guys 810 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 1: that are gonna play. But like, these are the kind 811 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: of questions, I will we cut Bush. He's downright awful. 812 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen. It's like cutting Routeolf like I 813 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,240 Speaker 1: don't write, I don't get this. You know they starts 814 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 1: why because he's not Devin Bush. That's the logic, right, 815 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: that's the logic. And that's no, that's no logic. That's 816 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: no logic. That's no way to build your team. If 817 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: you could acquire somebody else, if Bush is different, that's different. 818 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 1: And Bush becomes your three. Now you're right, that's different conversation, right, 819 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 1: Or if he's part of a trade or something like that. 820 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not applying any of those things. But 821 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: if somehow you got ro Quan Smith, well then I 822 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: don't care about Bush anymore. But until somebody better comes along, 823 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna be on the field, or a minimum on 824 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 1: the team, right, I mean right, he's I mean, Buddy 825 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: Johnson is not better than him. You know, he's got 826 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: beat by Friar Muth there, and that's in a tough play. Again, 827 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: it's a two way go in the middle of the field. 828 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 1: But then it was a nice route by Friar Muth, 829 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: a very good player, but he got into him and 830 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: then you know cut off. That was picket. I assume 831 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: m I assume me throw that one, uh led Friar 832 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: muth away from Bush, you know, but that's also a 833 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: twelve yard game by a tight end against Bush. You know. Yeah, 834 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: no one say his job is easy. And now we've 835 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 1: got Buddy Johnson and Spleene in there, and see Buddy 836 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 1: do something here. Yeah, let's see what Buddy and or 837 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: does the offense go right after explaining? And they did 838 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: not on that one. He was looking at him flat 839 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: the entire time. I don't know. That's the one thing 840 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 1: that you know, Look, I get Pickett played. He played 841 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 1: fine on on Saturday night. Didn't make any mistakes. He 842 00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 1: didn't really try anything real difficult though either. Oh no, 843 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: it was. There was a lot of I mean, if 844 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 1: you take away the catch him run at the end 845 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 1: of it, um and even if you count that in 846 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,720 Speaker 1: there you have it's like five point nine yeards of completion. 847 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,479 Speaker 1: He's getting of his first tend. That's great. No matter what. 848 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 1: They weren't elway throws. They weren't. They weren't leverage throws 849 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: or or anything of the nature. They were But I'm 850 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: perfectly fine with that. And his first shot that didn't 851 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: make the big mistake. Yeah again, but they were on 852 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 1: time and they were accurate, you know, that's great. That's 853 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: a fabulous jumping off point. That's the kind of quarterback 854 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: he was that made him a first round pick. You know, 855 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 1: I don't expect them to make far throws, you know, 856 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 1: that's okay. Efficiency is tremendous, and there's that's easier said 857 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,839 Speaker 1: than done. But if you isolate each one of those 858 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 1: ten first completions, they're ones that you should right. I mean, 859 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 1: it had been more of a red flag if you 860 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 1: would have missed them, you know, and then still together 861 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 1: right absolutely, Uh again, I'm not downplaying it. I'm just 862 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 1: saying it wasn't the to debut in the history of quarterbacking. Right. 863 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: Some seem to like be blowing it up as it 864 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 1: wasn't throw after throw like the one Rudolph made the 865 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 1: pickens in the corner of the end zone, you know 866 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: what I mean, And those are rare, you know. So 867 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 1: we'll see it was good start. It was a good start. 868 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 1: We'll see where it goes this weekend. He is Matt Williamson. 869 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 1: I am Dale Lally. You're listening to the Drive here 870 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy. We are 871 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,919 Speaker 1: live from Steelers training camp here in La Trobe. At St. 872 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 1: Vincent College. We'll be back with more right after this